+Thread 101+Chat: http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23RisingSons&server=irc.Rizon.netLast thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37801059/#p37809159+++We have defeated renegade and after years of absence Chapter Master is returning to Sector Deus.+++Initiates are welcome. Survival not guaranteed.
After the dust of the battle settled, Chapter Master had a number of important decisions to make.+Should Imperium claim Quixos' legacy?1. No, purge it all. [Respect from Kaldor, Eisenhorn unhappy]2. Salvage some of it, pick what. [Both Kaldor and Eisenhorn unhappy]3. We must preserve and study it. Decide who gets what. [Eisenhorn happy, Kaldor unhappy]+++Quixos' legacy:+Kharnagar the Deathly+Anti-Warp Pylon+Research notes on Cadian Pylons+Daemonology tomes+Daemonhost creation toolkit
>>37956751>+Kharnagar the DeathlyEntrust it to Kaldor. Destroying it would set Kharnagar free to the warp, whereas I'm sure the sword can be safely contained on Titan so Kharnagar can't bother anyone again.>+Anti-Warp Pylon>+Research notes on Cadian PylonsDon't know. On one hand they could be useful, on the other they may corrupt whoever reads them to follow in Quixos' footsteps.>+Daemonology tomesGK and =][= make regular use of such tomes so I don't see a problem. Knowledge is power after all.>+Daemonhost creation toolkitGive to Kaldor? GKs daemonhost themselves as a rite of passage after all.Quixos was a very powerful and loyal daemonhunter for several centuries, does he have no sanctified stuff lying around? I mean he did still see himself as loyal so I would've thought he'd still have daemon killing stuff.
>>37956909Also these are just suggestions, waiting for agreement or disagreement from others.
+Should Chapter claim wealth, instruments and other valuables stored on Farness Beta?+1. Loot only industrial areas, where hopefully no corrupting elements might be encountered.2. Don't loot at all.3. Loot everything. +Should we take prisoners?+1. No, purge them all. [Kaldor and Eisenhorn happy]2. Yes, but only slaves.3. Yes, but only slaves and specialists whom we would be able to interrogate.4. Yes, take everyone as prisoners.+What shall be the fate of the planet? Chapter would cover part of the costs.+1. Ist Class Exterminatus - burst core [-100W]2. IIIrd Class Exterminatus - virus bomb it into a deathworld [-50W]3. Leave it to fade into obscurity
>>37956927>1. Loot only industrial areas, where hopefully no corrupting elements might be encountered.>1. No, purge them all. [Kaldor and Eisenhorn happy]>3. Leave it to fade into obscurityWhy the fudge we gotta pay to clean up the =][='s mess.
>>37956927This one is easy>1. Loot only industrial areas, where hopefully no corrupting elements might be encountered.AND have everything thoroughly inspected for taint>1. No, purge them all. [Kaldor and Eisenhorn happy]>1. Ist Class Exterminatus - burst core [-100W]This one is just my opinion but we should make some of it up from looting and better safe than sorry
>>379569272. Don't loot at all.1. No, purge them all. [Kaldor and Eisenhorn happy]3. Leave it to fade into obscurity
>>37956909also agree with luigi on legacy
>>37956909>GKs daemonhost themselves as a rite of passage after all.That's Exorcist chapter. And we're probably not supposed to know about that.
>>37957121GKs do it as well.We did it to ourselves after reading it in one of their books.It...it didn't go well.
>>37956927With respect, Inquisitors, I am a warrior, a Dpace Marine. I am here, because you called me to assist you in eliminating this heretic. What happens to his possessions is your, not my area of work.
>>37956909Eisenhorn shares his thoughts on that with you:>I believe by the end he himself understood that holy items in his hands are losing power... Blessing is but a tip of the spear, through power of the relic comes from the faith of the believer... And I am not sure whether he was one.>>37956959Inquisition doesn't have resource base of it's own, they mostly use requisitioned stuff. But naturally they try to balance it out, for example by compensating building expenses, so that people would be willing to serve when they are required again. That's why Inquisition if the need is not pressing will compensate Mechanicus for their Exterminatus weaponry, partly with your money, if you agree with it.+++Eisenhorn is feeling better, he will be leaving for Scarus Sector to recover. Kaldor meanwhile will leave for Titan. Inquisitor Grumman will go to Terra to report our success.+++Before he departs, Eisenhorn approaches you:>Dear friend, I am glad to have gone through this ordeal together with you. Your combat skills and your iron logic helped us carry the day. I am sorry for your loss, Horim was a hero. We both made wrong decisions, but in the end it was one mistake too little to get us killed. I believe that we followed the right path and I am sure we will meet again. Please, as my parting gift, I would like you to take on of my blanks, Xenya Smirnova. She's a young one, but shows promise, I think she's Theta level if I recall correctly. I trust she will serve you well.In the door appears a young blonde woman in her 20s, wearing a black bodyglove. Her eyes are ice and you feel unwell just by looking at her.>Pleasure, milord. I won't approach you closer, our conditions are hardly compatible. But I trust me, I will be a weapon in your hands that will bring you heads of many psykers. I am Valhallan, we know a thing or two about death and loving the Emperor. Shall you accept me to serve you?
>>37957465What of the Inquisitor that went back to the ship before the Quixos fight?The one that should be dead.
>>37957465what of Sulix?and i either way about Blndie
>>37957465>I gladly accept your services Smirnova. This mission has shown me the great value your kind has to our work, I'll just be sure to keep my distance.
>>37957465>Pleasure, milord. I won't approach you closer, our conditions are hardly compatible. But I trust me, I will be a weapon in your hands that will bring you heads of many psykers. I am Valhallan, we know a thing or two about death and loving the Emperor. Shall you accept me to serve you?We would gladly accept another faithful servant of the emperor to aid us in our tasks. Also (chuckle) while I shan't be shaking your hand I give you a heartfelt welcome into the ghosts.
>>37957465As for the fate of the world, can I ask you Inquisitors for advice on how to proceed?
Soon after Eisenhorn leaves, Kaldor puts a hand on your shoulder.>Ave Imperator, Brother. Mission is done, now it is time to leave. I am sorry, you have told me your Name, but I haven't introduced myself properly since we first met. As it is time for our ways to part, I guess it is fitting for me to introduce myself properly.He takes off his helmet and looks at you with his crystal clear gaze:>My name is Kaldor Draigo, Initiate of the Grey Knights. When we met, I almost killed you. Now I want to kiss you on a cheek like a brother. You are a true servant of the Emperor. I am sad that our acquaintance is so brief, but I trust there are many more heretics for us to slay and sooner or latter we will once more cover each other's backs on the battlefield. Take my Purity Seal, may it protect you always, whether from your own dark thoughts or from the evil influences of the others. Don't waver, Brother.Kaldor waves one last time and boards the shuttle to leave.>>37957609>>37957579>I will prove your judgement correct, milord.Xenya leaves the room and choking feeling you had in your throat disappears.>>37957527You have not seen Inquisitor Commodus Voke since you arrived to the orbit. after a little bit of questioning you realise that Inquisitor took one of the Imperial escorts and left the system. He left a brief explanation for Eisenhorn saying that he needs to urgently check something out at the archives of Ophelia VII. A mysterious departure fitting an Inquisitor. +1 xp point for unlocking bonus material, wouldn't have mentioned it if you wouldn't have asked.>>37957569Sulix is currently under intense care, slowly healing. Daemonic poison was mostly removed, but it's effects still linger. When you remember about the daemonic shard that was stuck in Quixos' heart, you silently think to yourself that you might have created another Quixos while killing the original... What an irony of fate. At least you KNOW that this one will not become a monster.
>>37957958Are there any particularly important shrine worlds on the way back?A short stay might help Sulix, and anyone else who wishes to rid themselves of the lingering taint of chaos (ie Chapter Master).
>>37957958We could take a visit to a shrine world, have a few prayers and blessings and maybe help our image as astartes.
>>37957958Give Kaldors purity seal to Sulix, he needs it more than we do atm
>>37958070Im sure the rest of our troops would also enjoy a purification sabbatical
>>37958070By doing something you don't believe in since Ghosts don't see the Emperor the same way the Ecclesiarchy does?
Also we need a name for this mission we just did.
>>37957958>>37958097screw Sulix attach that purity seal to our armour with Dark Age ceramite superglue!
>>37958116No, this is mission - secret - all records expungedwhenever somebody asks us:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo
>>37958110we know he was an amazing person and that people and things come out of shrine worlds blessed and capable of fighting corruption better.We probably suspect the emperor dose that.
>>37957958From the chat:Watch the blank is being given to CM to watch him and deal with him if he doesn't toe the line enough.
>>37958110I'm generally a big proponent of that view, but you must remember that there generally -are- helpful practices when it comes to shrine worlds.Let him recover from his wounds and meditate upon himself and humanity, preferably with CM's guidance.We need an official chapter cult before our refusal to act tears the chapter apart again.
>>37958402We posted your Chapter Cult idea before we left.
>>37958402>>37958424I don't see the need for a cult. Plenty of chapters, especially first-founding chapters, do just fine without one. It is possible to remain pure with a strong sense of duty and honor without a cult. Mostly we just need to make sure we have reliable chaplains properly policing each company.
>>37958487One thing we could do, seeing as the main worry over this cult business is division, is encourage inter-cult relationships, have a ceremony or tradition of affirming brotherhood, stuff like that. An oath of oneness even if different, the whole being the sum of the parts, etc.
>>37957716>Most likely no one will ever find it, it's in the middle of nowhere. We vote to leave it as it is, there's nothing of value to either us or the enemy here.Eisenhorn prefers to save resources.>>37956959>>37956986>>37957031>Loot only industrial areas, where hopefully no corrupting elements might be encountered.Please roll 2d10x10 for the meager loot you collect. Then roll a secret d100.>No, purge them all. [Kaldor and Eisenhorn happy]Both of your allies grow to trust you more, mercy is for the weak.>Leave it to fade into obscurityYou leave Farness Beta behind, may oblivion devour it.>>37956909>>37957066>>37957300Eisenhorn claims all of the trophies apart from Daemonhost kit and Kharnagar, which are travelling with Draigo to Titan. He sets up charges in the Quixos' base to bury the pylon underneath almost a kilometer of earth, he judges it to be dangerous to outright destroy it. The rest of materials will be kept for the "future use against heretics". Daemonhost Cherubael-Deiron will be personally terminated by Inquisitor Eisenhorn as soon as it is convenient to do so.+++Gain reputation: Acquainted (Grey Knights) Gain +1 Favour for cooperating with Inquisition.Gain +1 Favour for destruction of Quixos.Gain +1 Favour for more than half Inquisitors including Eisenhorn surviving.Sulix gains trait Cursed(-10 to all tests apart from Sorcery).All non-CM Space Marines who took part in the mission gain trait Hero of Farness Beta[+10 WP]=Xenya Smirnova joins the Chapter=WS 24BS 29ST 21TH 26AG 36PE 35IN 40WP 45CH 11+++Traits:+Blank Rating I+Valhallan[+20 to operating in cold environments]+Distaff Training[+10 to all rolls against Psykers]
>>37958487However its much harder without one and the first founding chapters have a legendary status that makes them almost a cult to their recruitment worlds.
>>37958487We don't need an emperor worship cult, but we need to unify our brothers in some kind of belief. The different cults are all potential powder kegs that could lose us another company or worse.I believe the one I suggested was essentially 'Corax was the Emperor's son, you are Corax's sons. Honor your grandfather, your father, your fallen brothers before you. Protect humanity and the Imperium with everything you have, even in the darkest hour.'And iirc, the comments we made to Quixos should support that.
>>37958636Go with All-father or Just The Emperor, or similar, if someone hears us calling the big guy gramps will get blamed
Rolled 8, 6 = 14 (2d10)>>37958573For wealth
>>37958018>>37958038There is a Shrine world of Maccabeus Quintus in Drusus Subsector, Sector Calixis. It would take only a minor detour for you to visit it. Would you like to do it?+++Please roll d100 to see how easy your journey is. Less is better, 90+ is trouble.+++Also please roll for what happened back in Sector Deus while you were away.Roll 2d3 important events.Roll d100 for Chapter engagementsRoll d100 for Chapter managementRoll d100 for ImperiumRoll d100 for [classified #1]Roll d100 for Styrian TriarchyRoll d100 for [classified #2]Roll d100 for [classified #3]
Rolled 44 (1d100)>>37958573rolling ssssssssecret100
Rolled 60 (1d100)>>37958823Rolling for Imperium d100
Rolled 73 (1d100)>>37958823>Roll d100 for Chapter managementDid we fuck up again
Rolled 1, 2 = 3 (2d3)>>37958823roll for events
Rolled 1, 3 = 4 (2d3)>>37958823Important events?
Rolled 60 (1d100)>>37958823For Chapter Engagements
Rolled 82 (1d100)>>37958823>Roll d100 for Styrian TriarchyRolling.
Rolled 64 (1d100)>>37958823rolling for [classified #1]
Rolled 57 (1d100)>>37958823Roll d100 for [classified #1]
Rolled 72 (1d100)>>37958823For Classified #2
>>37958939take it for [classified #3]
Rolled 61 (1d100)>>37958823rolling for classified #3
Rolled 75 (1d100)>>37958823Travel!
Rolled 94 (1d100)>>37958823Rolling for travelAnd yes stop off on the Shrine World, get Sulix on a holy water IV.
High rolls were bad right? (screams internally)
We still have to figure out what in the fuck the Ice Wraiths are doing also to start training some war beast like that flying ice dragon I Also vaguely remember one of our marines having some connection with the Gnars maybe he can help?
>>37958823GODS BE GOOD
>>37958070>>37958103>>37958110While your souls might be saved(if you do believe it), it will not have an impact on your reputation as Space Marines due to the fact that you are so far away from Deus.>>37958116I vote for Operation Decapitation. As a bonus it rhymes. But it's up to you.>>37958125>>37958097I'll need a definite decision on this.>>37958399Is that an accusation of Eisenhorn being inquisitive and dishonest? That's preposterous!>>37958216>>37958402>>37958424>>37958487>>37958603>>37958636>>37958738When there's no firm policy on what is and isn't Chapter dogma, cults arise by themselves. They might be called differently, warrior lodges, cults, brotherhoods, sects, etc. but even superhumans need a way to cope with this merciless galaxy. Whether through faith or ideology, they will believe something. Roll d100 to see how your cults were doing while you were away.>>37958741>>37958858+140 Wealth, a reasonable amount of industrial equipment was recovered to be used in Mormark. You noticed nothing of note.>>37958873>>37958877>>37958918>>37958937>>37958942>>37958965>>37958882Important eventss:+Katriona Ursus was involved in some kind of public scandal related with one of the Nestorium representatives on Tachion Primaris, who allegedly abused her in inappropriate ways. What that means is any ones' guess. Nestorium is forced to pay a hefty tribute to Ursus Dynasty to calm Lord Sector Governor. Poor representative is lobotomised and remade into a servitor and then given as a gift to Katriona. Rumours say that she is using him to clean her shoes.+Pirate raiders appeared near Prothera, hoping to raid weakened agri-world. Chapter was able to intercept them in time, their ships fled, while ground troops were eliminated. Pirate force of 4300 raiders and 8 weak psykers was annihilated, but you lost 2d10 battle brothers and d4 points of equipment. You have managed to take a treasure worth d30 wealth from them. Damage to Prothera was minimal.
Rolled 4 (1d4)>>37959366equipment
Rolled 18 (1d30)>>37959366>When there's no firm policy on what is and isn't Chapter dogma, cults arise by themselves. They might be called differently, warrior lodges, cults, brotherhoods, sects, etc. but even superhumans need a way to cope with this merciless galaxy. Whether through faith or ideology, they will believe something. Roll d100 to see how your cults were doing while you were away.https://archive.moe/tg/thread/31346784/#31348811>+Pirate raiders appeared near Prothera, hoping to raid weakened agri-world. Chapter was able to intercept them in time, their ships fled, while ground troops were eliminated. Pirate force of 4300 raiders and 8 weak psykers was annihilated, but you lost 2d10 battle brothers and d4 points of equipment. You have managed to take a treasure worth d30 wealth from them. Damage to Prothera was minimal.Rolling for wealth.
Rolled 9, 9 = 18 (2d10)>>37959366>Losing battle brothers>To pirate raiders
Rolled 7, 7 = 14 (2d10)>>37959366Rolling for the fallen brothers. How many to the golden throne this time?>Roll for lost battlebrothers.>>37959496AND THEN THIS FUCKER.Screw it lets see what could of been.
Is it funny how I'm okay with all of this as it means the chapter didn't burn to the ground in our absence. Of course the real nasty stuff could just be hidden.
>>37959572also our brothers we're lost to the entirety of the enemy force including ships, vehicles, etc. Not just a matter of a raider with an autogun getting lucky.
Rolled 23 (1d100)>>37959366>Awww shit cults
>>37959366>I'll need a definite decision on this.I retract my statement, forgot Sulix was one of ours. Give him the purity seal.
>>37959675yes for Sulix
>>37959366also if we could check the shrine world for recruitsthat would be great. So Avicenor will check the under 12 year old for any promising compatible with gene seed ghosts, alongside our chaplin
>>37959366>While your souls might be saved(if you do believe it), it will not have an impact on your reputation as Space Marines due to the fact that you are so far away from Deus.While on the shrine world, we could try to get some consecrated bolt Shells, we might need them
>>37959034>Gnars with Heavy Bolters or Lascannons strapped to themFund it.
Events continued:+Peletonum has suffered a minor rebellion by one of the growing corporations that argued against the domination by the biggest oldest corporations. Peletonian Corporate Council put the rebellion down and by the time Brethorius' forces arrived it was almost done, only d3 brother perished during the assault on the last bastion in the southern continent. Peletonian Corporate Council used Space Marines for their PR campaign and rewarded us with a gift of 10 Wealth. Peletonian Loyalty to Imperium is raised to 85%, while for Corporations it decreases to 58%. [please update planet pages, Emperor will thank you!]=Chapter events=+A representative from Argul IV arrived with a gift of valuable drugs that could help Klementhos in his projects. They demanded nothing in return, but said that they hope that Chapter will remember them if they ever need out help. Brethorius accepted and sent them back with a token gift of -1 Wealth. Klementhos will have +10 on next project roll.+Revenant Turiel, known for his impressive sniping skills, suggested to look into a new Doctrine of using massed snipers to demoralise and destroy our enemies. Maybe you should approach him to research this idea once you get back.+Techmarine Simmer created a cyber-dog for himself. He calls it Spice Wulf or just Wulf, cyber-dog has become a sort of a lucky charm among his brothers who often laugh at it's quirky behaviour, but other techmarines look down on him for amusing himself and others at the expense of the technology. They are also worried about possible dangers of this semi-official technology...>>37958981You will return to Sector Deus in early-346.M41, after visiting Maccabeus Quintus.>>37959489+18 wealth, also, would it be possible to create a page called Chapter Cult and officially implement it? I remember this, but not sure whether it was officially agreed>>37959485You lost 3 Rhinos to the enemy AT rockets and 2 war bikes got destroyed during the battle.
>>37960190ya know cyber mastiffs are a cannon thing in wh40k right?
>>37960190>+18 wealth, also, would it be possible to create a page called Chapter Cult and officially implement it? I remember this, but not sure whether it was officially agreedI'm pretty sure we all agreed to it, I'll make a page tomorrow.As for those rhinos and bikes, they can be repaired right? 'Cause that shit's expensive.
Rolled 2 (1d3)>>37960190So many brothers dying
>>37960190Skar is it posible to get any aspirants from Maccabeus, since we have a apothecary and a chaplain to look for them
>>37959496>>37960332Brothers who fell:1. Albinus2. Trinar3. Felicianus 4. Collarmos5. Lyconides 6. Johannes7. Lavertos8. Sycor9. Sangarinus 10. Viktorian11. Argyros12. Blorian13. Kintyros14. Sisyphor15. Unex16. Hipernor17. Anwarian18. Sadhiron19. Flavian "The Strong"20. Asmeton>>37959675>>37959755Add Kaldor's Purity Seal to Sulix's character sheet. His Cursed trait is negated by it while worn.>>37959904>>37959939>>37960707Roll d100 for your Inquiry to recruit and another d100 to find supplies.>>37959034>>37960055These are workable ideas.>>37960280Indeed they are, the problem is that Simmer did it WITHOUT the sanctioned blueprints for it. He mostly got it right, so it's not a problem, but that's not the way it is supposed to be done.>>37960326Unfortunatelly your current Doctrine when used applied to the battle in a semi-open terrain [Protheran hills], where raiders retreated after initial defeat turned out to mean some losses for you. This number doesn't include damaged vehicles and injured marines, however you might roll for Techmarine Actium's Tech Use skill  to retrieve 1 Rhino due to his close affinity with armoured forces, he might have been close to the battle and might have retrieved the vehicle before it exploded. (roll d100)
Rolled 77 (1d100)>>37961197
Rolled 87 (1d100)>>37961197>Unfortunatelly your current Doctrine when used applied to the battle in a semi-open terrain [Protheran hills], where raiders retreated after initial defeat turned out to mean some losses for you.Can I ask why exactly?>however you might roll for Techmarine Actium's Tech Use skill  to retrieve 1 Rhino due to his close affinity with armoured forces, he might have been close to the battle and might have retrieved the vehicle before it exploded.Wouldn't heavily damaged vehicles be swapped out or retreat from battle to be repaired instead of shoved into battle as if they weren't absolutely priceless relics which cost what one man will never earn in a lifetime?
Rolled 52 (1d100)>>37961197Rolling for supplies
Rolled 71 (1d100)>>37961197roll for Recruiting
Rolled 5 (1d100)>>37961197What exactly were these Raiders using and how were their tactics of retreating resulting in Astartes death again?I find it hard to believe that the 4000 of them were using top of the line weapons, or were equipped with anything standard for IG. Or decked out with anything near Leman Russ.
>>37961197Can I ask for a...more thorough report on what happened in that engagement? Seriously I'm confused, we fought a pack of pirates and they actually caused some damage.Seriously its starting to sound like the pirates smuggled tanks into the hills or something. I want details on this mess if at least to revise battle Doctrine for this kind of terrain. Learn from our mistakes and all that.And maybe understand how a pack of dirty ass pirates had access to weapons able to actually kill a space marine. Somethings smelly Skargan
>>37961197Where they eldar pirates, or humans or munants?
Maccabeus Quintus is an arid and bitterly cold world with a harsh, bright sun, that is prone to terrible famines and droughts which leave their mark even on its strongest inhabitants. Yet Maccabeus Quintus is a blessed world, blessed not because of the resources it possesses (which are few), or because of the climate (which is harsh), but because of the faith that grows there in abundance. Maccabeus Quintus is a Shrine World of the Adeptus Ministorum administered by the Ecclesiarchy's Black Order, the place where the great Lord General Militant Drusus, the second commander of the Angevin Crusade, fell and was raised up as an Imperial saint by the glory of the Emperor. A site of pilgrimage for the faithful across the Calixis Sector of the Segmentum Obscurus, this Shrine World has a significant military tradition all its own. Following after their great patron, these pilgrims form the core of the Maccabian militias, the finest of which are chosen to become Maccabian Janissaries of the Imperial Guard. Like Saint Drusus, they defend or expand the Imperium in battle, which is regarded as the most pious form of worship. +++What shall you seek on Maccabeus Quintus?1. Redemption through prayer or meditation2. To learn more about religious doctrine3. Blessing for conquest in the name of Imperium4. To bury Horim and pay respect to all of our dead heroes+++Please pick one as I am asking only what is your PRIMARY goal, then roll d100.>>37961209Unfortunately while Actium was trying to get the downed Rhino from the battlefield and fix it another volley of krak mortar rounds descended, two of them hitting Rhino. Actium barely escaped, but machine is gone. [total loss: 3 Rhinos, 2 war bikes]
>>37961349>>37961383>>37961470guys you're asking for a huge novel on what is essentially a fluff explanation for a single dice roll. I think you're over-thinking things here.
>>37961524>1. Redemption through prayer or meditation
Rolled 66 (1d100)>>379615241. Redemption through prayer or meditation
Rolled 68 (1d100)>>37961525We lost almost 5% of our chapter in a single engagement.Not to orks. Not to Eldar. Not to Chaos. Not even to people who were properly armed. But to ragtag Raiders, numbering in 4000s. When we were fielding likely hundreds of Marines, vehicles and other weaponry.
>>37961524>another volley of krak mortar rounds descendedI.. What? Mortars are for slow combat, trench combat. Marines don't fight like that and never have, they'd only be able to use that in a defensive position, which they wouldn't be in since they're invading. Even more so if we were deep striked in.
>>37961524>Unfortunately while Actium was trying to get the downed Rhino from the battlefield and fix itQuoting from the Lexicanumhttp://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rhino"Downed" Rhinos have to have suffered through exceedingly terrible hits to be rendered immobile, as it has four engines and an auxiliary drive shaft and batteries which can keep it going for a spell as well.> In addition, most Rhinos include rudimentary self-repair systems able to restore motive and drive functions. This basic design feature lends towards the Rhino's reputation as a rugged carrier, able to keep moving after suffering damage that would cripple lesser vehicles.Furthermore on self-repair, >Such is its resiliency that damage sustained in battle can often be repaired in the field by the crew themselves.And then on scavenging it?>Each Rhino is purified and blessed, each piece appeased before being put in place. Should a Rhino be lost in battle, it will be salvaged and repaired, being sent back out into the field to give the Machine Spirit a chance for retribution against its enemies.I think you're really underestimating the Rhino here Skargan.
>>37961524>>37959366honestly, some of the scenarios that happen to us, whats next, rock fall everyone dies
>>37961283There are numerous priests who are offering you to bless your rounds, but you don't really trust any of them. Renard suggests you something nefarious:>We could steal one of those silver church bells. I bet those are holy or even if they are not, they will sure sell well[+1d10 wealth]. I am pretty sure that if we want holy metal, that's where we could get it. Let me deal with it[Roll his Intelligence 52 to succeed, +10 bonus].>>37961309Most of the pilgrims who come are malnourished and diseased, not a good stock for recruitment. Locals are even worse, while their world is not gentle, they live better than average life due to the influx of coin brought by pilgrims, they are soft and will not make good recruits despite the fact that they want to serve. However Trianon has had some luck when scanning moving crowds on the road to the St. Drussus Chapel. >Milord, I have detected two latent psychic signatures belonging to prepubescent boys, they are brothers. I have stopped and spoke to their parrents. Their names are Vortigan and Laxenos, they have come here all the way from Scintilla to ask St. Drussus for a blessing. Their parents think that we are the blessing sent by the saint and will sell us their boys for enough money to stay on this world and open a small shrine in our honour [3 wealth]. These boys would make great recruits, Avicenor thinks they'd survive the tests at 95% chance. Shall we buy them?>>37961349>>37961383Please check what TripMarine said:>>37961525You can read more on Chapter Doctrine here - http://chapterquest.wikia.com/wiki/Doctrine. Space Marines die and not always gloriously. Anything that can kill a tank can kill a Space Marine. And yes, they had plenty of guns to kill tanks.>>37961470I guess this might have an impact storywise. They were mostly humans, with some darkholder mutants supporting them. You suspect that they might have come from Tartarus space station...
>>37962099i vote we get the brothers
>>37962099>You can read more on Chapter Doctrine here - http://chapterquest.wikia.com/wiki/Doctrine. Space Marines die and not always gloriously. Anything that can kill a tank can kill a Space Marine. And yes, they had plenty of guns to kill tanks.I can accept Space Marines dying from errant anti-tank weaponry, but really the vehicles should be 100% salvageable. Even if it's a mangled wreck we should be able to drag the husk back to the chapter forge and remake the damn thing, we still have the materials.Anyway...let's just move on and I hope in the future our vehicles' durability is more in-line with their fluff (and their damn cost, for 10W those rhinos are nowhere near worth it).Don't steal the bells, naughty Renard.Grab the two psykers, we need librarians.Then meditate and stuff on what we have done and ask for forgiveness.
>>37962099I don't think that its a good idea to steal from a shrine world.Lets buy the brothers.
>>37962099>Anything that can kill a tank can kill a Space Marine. And yes, they had plenty of guns to kill tanks.Why exactly? It's a raiding group of 4000 intent on attacking and sacking a city which lacks a strong PDF/IG Garrison, they shouldn't be expecting to be fighting an IG Regiment of tanks, much less the far more agile and maneuverable space marines.>Please check what TripMarine said:What, the "I can be lazy and re-direct you and not answer for anything" excuse?>I guess this might have an impact storywise.All of it has an impact story-wise. If we're expecting to lose 5% of the ENTIRE CHAPTER on a tiny engagement like this then we're going to have to start re-thinking how effective our Chapter is at engagements, not to mention how much money we're going to be spending, and on what.
>>3796209910 Wealth was enough money to bankrupt the high pay Priests of the Eccliesarchy. 3 Wealth is more than just a "Small shrine", that should be enough to put them in palaces
>>37962214Vortigan and Laxenos now join your training pool. You may roll 2d100. To immediately see whether they both will survive[96+ death]. -3 wealth.Regarding Rhinos - Indeed they can survive a lot of punishment and indeed you might salvage pieces of them. The battle was harsh, your forces (which were a company strong) needed to cover a large terrain to hunt down all the enemies, got into skirmishing/maneuvering battle which is not your strongest side, one of the Rhinos was lost in a quick sand, the other two exploded. Sure, you can drain the whole quick sand lake in a few months and you can take shells of the old machines and install new machine spirits, put on new armour, etc. Systematically and time wise it will be the same or even more expensive than buying a new Rhino. Please roll 30+d10 in Wealth loss to recover your Rhinos. Less damaged vehicles who just lost a track, caught a few shells or jumped on a mine will be repaired automatically.>>37962334It's true. "small" is relative, though.
Rolled 9 (1d10)>>37962553roll wealth
Rolled 88 (1d100)>>37962553
Rolled 76 (1d100)>>37962553second roll for psykers
>>37962916If you'd choose to drain whole quick sand lake and rebuild both Rhinos it would cost 39 Wealth and they would be considered "Veteran Rhinos".>>37962959Welcome back, Wrenloft, haven't seen you in a while. Vortigan survives.>>37963027Laxenos does so too.+++Your arrival back to Deus in 346.M41 is celebrated by the whole Chapter! While you were gone Chapter lost 3% of Heresy and collected 4d10+4d3 Wealth. As you arrive to the Mormarkian orbit, you feel a faint breeze in the warp. And a smile appears on your face. Adriel is back from her Craftworld and she's felt that you are back to the Sector. You haven't played regicide in a long time... Probably time to practice your skills once more. With a smile you go to the Tombstone where a great feast awaits you.=End of Session=
Rolled 5, 2, 7, 7 = 21 (4d10)>>37963304wealth
Rolled 3, 3, 2, 2 = 10 (4d3)>>37963304
Rolled 2, 1, 3, 3 = 9 (4d3)>>37963304other wealth
>>37963335>>37963352+30 Wealth+++40k has many interpretations. So here's explanation of what is what in CMQ. Following battles assume that it is happening in an open terrain and that Astartes is defending. This shows the point at which forces have 50/50 chance of success.1 Astartes = 1000 plague zombies (claws and bodies, no weapons)1 Astartes = 50 guardsmen (with a few rocket launchers, HMG and some grenades)1 Astartes = 30 orks (close combat weapons)2 Astartes = 1 Old Chaos Astartes (more than millenia old, no direct magic)1 Astartes = Leman Russ tank1 Astartes = 10 Eldar Guardians1 Astartes = 10 stormtroopers1 Astartes = 5 Skitarii/Arcoflagelants (average, depends on the modification)1 Astartes = 20 Tau Fire Warriors (with pulse rifles)1 Astartes = 30 kroot (melee)1 Astartes = 1 Oldcron warrior (gauss rifle)10+ Astartes = Chaos Sorcerer3 Astartes = Medium level psyker5 Astartes = Eversor Assassin10 Astartes = Dreadnought / Penitent Engine20 Astartes = Chapter Master / Bloodthirster50 Astartes = Titan100+ Astartes = Primarch+++Rough estimate. Ask if you have questions
>>37964039Tips & tricks on how to use your machinery efficiently:=Rhino=+Durable (can withstand multiple rocket hits, but would fall prey to a lascanon or melta hit)+Provides mobile cover (option to miminise troop loses in exchange for Rhinos)+Fast - Allows you to flank, pursue, surround, etc your enemies. =When to use=When you want to gain tactical advantage or need to redeploy your troops quickly, excels at pursuing fleeing enemies. Loses big part of it's advantages in crowded terrain, for example Rhino will die horribly in cities or mountains. Strongest at Maneouvre, Retreat, Open Terrain.=Predator=+Firepower - main battle tank can destroy enemy vehicles, heoes, monster and other heavies. Not efficient against troops unless they are tightly packed.+Durable - can withstand a few hits from lascannon and/or melta, hard to kill. Shrugs off most rockets and grenades.=When to use=When assaulting a fixed position or serious targets such as Dreadnoughts, Daemons, etc. Too slow for pursuit, gets easily bogged down in dangerous terrain. Less disadvantaged in cities than Rhino (can in fact be used as a bunker-buster and to break strong points), but still is at danger from the lack of space to maneuver. Strongest at Advance & Open Terrain.=Warbikes=+Extremely fast, excellent for pursuit, scouting, harassing enemy.+Carry enough firepower to threaten enemy Rhinos or light human tanks when in groups.=When to use=Warbikes are the weakest and one of the fastests of the vehicles you have. They are cheap, they are tactically very flexible, but they have to be managed well to reach their full effect. Also remember that Warbike can carry 2 Astartes if needed, so a group of warbikes could be used as a substitute for a transport i some cases where needed. Strongest at Open Terrain, Skirmishing, Maneouvre, Retreat.