Previous Thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37754446/Our Current Stats: http://pastebin.com/iahm4JSj (Please have a look at them, but don't feel obligated to read it all in one sitting- use it as a guideline if you're drawing a blank or need some contextual information as I've essentially compiled every piece of information that's relevant to our civilization.)Our Current Bestiary: http://pastebin.com/TWY0QfWA (Please have a look, but don't feel obligated to read it in one sitting- it's VERY extensive and currently in "alpha" since I'd like to make an illustrated pdf.)Last time we discovered numerous arcane and historical secrets after another: the intentions of Mycea's plans concerning akalade and the one we've known as "The Great Progenitor", The Hydra mother has revealed her plans for reincarnation, The Gorgon empire continues to grow in strength, we established contact with the changlings, and invented our first vehicle; the magical flying pot.>+New Feature: Long Term Trends and Developments are now listed on the stats- please have a look at them when you can. "Temporary" or developments as they happen will be now listed on initial posts like always. >+Political and Economical Development: The Gorgon Empire has Discovered Alchemy>The Gorgon empire has begun blowing and producing their own glass and one of the first things they have found out with it is that it makes excellent Flasks, Beakers, and other necessary equipment for Alchemy. Alchemy is the application of subtle forms of magic applied to real world chemistry- and the Gorgons excel at it due to their extensive knowledge of both inorganic and organic compounds facilitated by their sensitivity to magic once thought impractical. (post 2 incoming, please be patient)
>>37909508>+Political Development: Mycea is enacting her plan.>Akalade's pod is being transported and is en-route to Mycea's Grove. It will take a few Months to get there, but she has sent the latest reincarnation of the Hydra Mother (who is the current empress of the gorgon empire) to assist in it's travel and protection. Once it has arrived she will begin cultivating her spores within it before ejecting it into the ocean in order to infect, rot, and consume the great Progenitor. The entire plan will take a few years, but promises interesting and revolutionary results.>+/- Personal Development: Akalade is on the move.>Akalade's mood has improved and he is continuing his mission. He no longer resides on the Home Island and has instead moved to the Coastal City on the Mainland. There seems to be an air of urgency and almost paranoia behind his actions that had not been displayed previously in his work. As always, please go ahead and roll for 2 Actions and 1 Idea.I'm terribly sorry for the wait, but better late then never!
Rolled 40 (1d100)>>37909531Create tools to make working with and/or creating Textiles easier
Rolled 19 (1d20)>>37909531Develop steel.
Rolled 3 (1d20)Finishing up my Civ for the moment to take care of IRL things. Will lurk as usual.>>37909531Further the the Floating Pot technology by making it more sustainable and safer.
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>37909531Oh dear. I sort of hope Akalade doesn't do anything rash. Maybe we should have some people accompany him?
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>37909531Send guards to protect Mycea's projects.
>>37909735Super Chaperone's Go
Rolled 4 (1d20)>>37909531Speak with the Dinosaur tribe about possibly acquiring Sauropods
Rolled 10 (1d100)Gorgons developed alchemy?Maybe we should do something similar, perhaps with our traditions of brewery and spirits making.Lets make some crazier Alcohols.
Rolled 18 (1d100)>>37909772I like this, develop improved breweries with the alchemecal knowledge from gorgon alchemy
>>37909763Seems a bit of a waste of a 20 I'll be honest. But maybe there might be some nice beneficial side effect? Maybe we're hanging out with him and improving his mood. Maybe he finds something nice. Maybe he is at peace?
>>37909531Create an epic poem to commeorate the love Akalade and his husband shared. Only with his blessing, of course.
>>37909800Plus there are some of the improvements purified alcohol can provide. It can be used for fuels, like lamps and lanterns and primitive Bunsen burners.
>>37909806Maybe we learn more about his "science" through watching his studies
Rolled 8 (1d20)>>37909531>>37909854Forgot to roll.Comemmorate*
>>37909806The family of his husbando should get together with him and give the deceased a proper cyclopean funeral
>>37909735Friendship mission is GO!
Sorry, will respond to these rolls in a second.I was eating some cereal.There was a loud crunch and then discomfort- I thought a particularly hard piece got stuck between my molars.Turns an old filling popped out.Now I'll have to go to the fucking dentist next week and until then I've just got this fucking hole in the side of one of my teeth inbetween another tooth and jesus fucking, fuck, christ- god damn it.
Rolled 1 (1d20)>>37909854I can't not support
Rolled 23 (1d100)Here's an idea: the manticore tribe respect/worship mycea right?Why don't we ask her to help us explain the benefits of working together rather then raiding other gorgon tribes. We should phrase it like this- instead of using their skills and knowledge to rob, they could instead be road wardens and guides, and receive payment from travelers and also get to fight monsters, wild animals and others who might mean ill will to travelers
>>37909916I hate shit like this. Is it too bad?
>>37909531So I just want to be clear on what I've read... we're a multiracial empire, primarily cyclops but also including gorgons now, who have recently encountered other civilizations for the first time formally, and through that are undergoing a cultural and technological revolution?Tech level is basically about mid greek dominance of the Mediterranean? Fall of Troy and such?We have our own island (which is the southern landmass on the map) which is not fully explored I think? What do the various colors of arrow represent? Trade routes? Also is that a northern landmass or a series of islands or just 'explored' regions of the world?
>>37909916shit sucks man, anything we can do to help?
>>37909735What is their intent? To comfort and guide him or to keep him from causing trouble?
>>37909916Goodness tooth terror is never good.Huh... maybe we should... get on that for our civ. Imagine how many toothlesses we got in our elders?
>>37909971Comfort, keep him out of trouble, and to learn from him.
>>37909971I was originally thinking "To keep him from causing trouble" But honestly that is a bit paranoid on my part. The Nat 20 makes me want to dial back the suspicion now.
>>37909531(Conversation)Could we talk to Akalade about his loss? I'm sure we'd also like to proclaim our gratitude and give thanks for the sacrifice of his pod and give a promise to him that we will heal his world.
I can't be the only one thinking we're risking war with the Merfolk if we murder their god right?
>>37909963sorry, reverse directions on what I stated... missed the compass entirely.
>>37910095Maybe. It could also be the best thing anyone could do for them. We're putting our faith in Mycea.
>>37910095We should start prepping for war, yes.
>>37909531so new guy here, just a thought upon reading the pastebins...I don't suppose we might want to do something about this whole occultist movement should we? Maybe make some sort of motion to get them organized and a little bit out in the open if only to avoid the whole 'accidentally the whole continent' by a spell gone wrong? I know the whole merfolk thing is probably going to take precedence, but feels like maybe we want to tackle that thing sooner rather than later...
>>37910211They aren't a bad cult. They've shown no signs of being nefarious or shown any ill will towards anyone.
>>37909963Pretty much, though the entirety of the island is explored and more or less colonized to one degree or another.
>>37910125I get it... Mycea is a tragic figure, and she has a sad sack story, and yeah I agree with her that the Deep Eye is a threat; its just that this whole scenario expects a whole lot from us, and throws us under the bus somewhat. I mean she asks US to get Akalade's pod, she is putting a lot of responsibility on US to defend her and make sure she is okay while she prepares to deal a deathblow to the old god. Plus there is the fact that she's consorting with other gods/beings behind our back it seems. Like the Gorgon Empress, and others.
>>37909568>Create tools to make working with and/or creating Textiles easier>Roll 40/100>Failure. +Gorgon InfluenceSilk is produced through a seemingly simple manner: Silk cocoons spun by Moth Larvae are boiled and then the threads are unspun from the cocoon before they're treated, dried, and re-spun to make clothing. From a Cyclopes perspective this is an incredibly time consuming procedure as silk is VERY small, but Gorgons do it almost by second nature and it isn't uncommon to see Gorgon Mothers and Grand Mothers spinning silk with little less than a roll of wood.The Gorgon Empire has LOOMS though and so does the Spider Tribe; it's gradual and slow, but over time you DO eventually come to possess the Silk loom.>+Silk loom equipment Discovered>The Silk looming equipment is a series of wooden devices that include a loom and spinning wheel that allow silk to be threaded for the production of cloth. It allows for a much larger boon to the sericulture cottage company as now families can spin easily spin excess silk clothing to sell and trade. Silk looms are also revolutionary in that particularly large ones can be used even by Cyclopes- as a normal person might do cats cradle.
>>37910211I think we should deal with the Incest and pedophilia first.
>>37910272Well then what motivation do we have to turn on her or disbelieve her? What's the progenator done for the cyclops? Mycea's given them homes, helped them secure hex trade goods, given them companionship, and has been nothing but a friend. I don't see a reason to turn on her.
Let's focus on building up our defenses and expanding the mining town for now.We gotta get more resources if we want to get to the next tech level, which is building simple machines like catapults, cranes, and pic related.
>>37910324Why? It's a very minor problem.
>>37910359Rather deal with it now then have it become a big problem.
>>37910378Nevermind. I didn't see the new pastebin.
>>37909653>Develop steel.>Roll 19/20>Success, but without "acknowledgment". Currently your Iron works and iron production are the envy of every neighboring nation: Your bellows and blast forges produce some of the finest quality iron that knows no competition and is shipped out en masse for export to the southern continent and to every corner of Gorgon Civilization.Steel isn't something you understand or necessarily formally recognize as- you do not make a distinction between "steel" and "regular iron" in the sense that your Smiths and Forgers aim to make the highest quality iron product that they possibly can and in doing so they accidentally make Steel quite frequently.
>>37910271What's the giant mass of question marks then?>>37910267Yeah, and that's the thing. Why not create a space for them that doesn't REQUIRE them to be all secretive and shit? But to be able to share their gifts without fear of persecution?Rather than you know, forcing them to do something bad, we create a university or something where they can safely practice their arts for the benefit of all rather than in secluded covens in abandoned houses and caverns?It allows all of the various occultists to pool their knowledge. It gives them a safe haven from the superstitious, and it also creates an environment where we can more easily CATCH such cultists who are actually doing evil things or risking lives.The big issue is this. We can wait. And they can continue to work in fear and obscurity and secrecy (which seems to be why they're not working publicly, for fear of being discriminated against), and it's only a matter of time before one nutjob to take on the role of magneto or similar, decides to use that occult lore for BAD JUJU!Hell, even if we have a SMALL cult that accidently opens a gate to hell or cthulhu-land because they were tricked or just didn't realize the spell they got their hands on, if that is their FIRST major effect, collectively, on the civilization? This is all going to go down hill FAST and will likely irrevocably taint the image of occultists in the eye of the average citizen.>>37910324When it's discovered, it leads to beatings and lynchings... I think the only thing we really need to do is make a few examples in every village and we'll be good... it can become big, but I don't think it's got the same opportunity to go big in as awful a way as the whole occultism thing.That said, yeah... probably want to nail it sooner rather than later as well.
>>37910449Can they make steel deliberately, even if they only think of it as high quality iron?Like if someone came in and said "I want a sword like that [steel] sword" would they be able to do it?
>>37910465Also, back on the whole occultism thing. We're about to mess with a major occult figure. That's going to cause some major power vacuums in the metaphysical space of the world right? Do we really want to deal both with war with the merfolk if this is traced back to us, AND occultist groups suddenly coming into contact with beings formerly sworn to a giant cthulhu-beast-god-thing, who now want to take his place? At the same time?
>>37910465Question marks are the Plains, inhabited by changelings, ant folk and others we have yet to meet
>>37910465>Why not create a space for them that doesn't REQUIRE them to be all secretive and shit? But to be able to share their gifts without fear of persecution?So a Wizard School? Maybe one with some Exorcists/Hunters as security staff in case stuff goes pearshaped.
>>37910465Why not have occultists focused towards a job? Formalize them like we did the guilds, and Give them different tasks to solve- monster hunting, treatment of disease, the appeasement of spirits are all great places to start, maybe they each can be dedicated around a particular place, like a cave or monolith and make them like Shrine Wardens
>>37910465>Rather than you know, forcing them to do something bad, we create a university or something where they can safely practice their arts for the benefit of all rather than in secluded covens in abandoned houses and caverns?Basically, rather than saying "YOU MUST GO IN THE CIRCLE APOSTATE SCUM!" we say "Hey, you guys want to study occultism right? Magic? Why not come to this place we've created just for it? You can trade information, get easy access to the supplies you need, and even have professional, formalized tutors who know what they're doing and how to avoid hurting yourself!"That's kinda how I see it here...>>37910553And yeah. Basically. But instead of making it like the whole mage-templar relationship from Dragon Age, I'd say we go more on the side of Negima, where wizard-fighter combo.To progress past a certain level in classes, Mages need to pair with someone who is trained in protecting them from magical bullshit and gribblies? Same deal with the exorcist students. To progress beyond a certain point in their studies, they have to pair up with a mage student?That way we build a bond of trust, rather than hatred, between the two bodies?
>>37910465I could get behind that if someone comes up with a good way to implement it. A school or college for them. Some kind of meeting of minds with the sage's council. I'm not sure.
>>37909729>Further the the Floating Pot technology by making it more sustainable and safer.>Roll 3/20>Near complete Failure.Numerous peoples have become inspired by the technology and magical prowess displayed by the presense of the Floating pot: it might by wobbly, it might be a little silly looking, but to dream of flight- could it be possible?This (un)fortunately leads to dozens of budding and over-confident Cyclope Arcanists whom with little experience, but over active imaginations and ambitions larger than their eyes going forth and proceeding to find out every single way a Flying pot CANNOT work: Some individuals think to make the pot bigger in order to hold more people and the pot ends up unable to carry the weight and proceeds to spin out, Some wish to make the pipes larger or experiment with the metals and end up producing a pot that can't contain the tone and resonations of Hymns and the pots end up shattering- sometimes in mid-air.One particular group of Cyclopean Arcanists experiment ends in disaster when they try to make as large a flying pot as they possibly can and proceed to make inaccurate measurement; not accounting for some ignored law of physics currently ignorant to them. The Pot's pipes shiver, rattle, the pot clay holds though and become dense- before it finally violently explodes and sends sharp shards of clay everywhere- killing it's pilots and maiming a few by standers.
>>37910676OH THE CYCLOPSITY!
>>37910579>Why not have occultists focused towards a job? Formalize them like we did the guilds, and Give them different tasks to solve- monster hunting, treatment of disease, the appeasement of spirits are all great places to start, maybe they each can be dedicated around a particular place, like a cave or monolith and make them like Shrine WardensSounds good to me. Formalization and welcoming of the occultists is the way to go. We're far less likely to create a hot bed for people who hate society that way, and instead create an environment that is PART of our civilization that they see as welcoming of them and their interests and talents.Otherwise we're just asking for trouble not to get a head of the train on this.>>37910643I say we create a university-town like set up. We approach the biggest cults, ask them to set up their own little university town nearby, or even right next to, one of our biggest cities. Don't isolate them (though maybe provide them with an isolated island they can go to practice and experiment on for stuff they feel is really dangerous).Each of these 'cults' now becomes a "College of Magic". The founding Colleges form the Council of Magi, which is the leading body that directs the course of the university. Below them is a Sagacious Senate, which is the representative body of the lesser cults that join up afterwards, forming their own "Schools of Magic" rather than full Colleges.Colleges would basically control entire districts of the university town, where as Schools get individual buildings.We'd make sure there was at least one "College" (even if we had to found it ourselves) made up of people who studied magic with the specific purpose of cleaning up occult fallout, as well as helping protect their fellow occultists while they did their careful and delicate work. A trusted body of defenders for occultists, who made sure that no one was harmed by the occult gone wrong?
>>37910359>pedophilia>minor problem>minorI see what you did there. lol
>>37910732Students would either be welcomed in for their talents, or could pay tuition to the college. Taxes we take in would go to help upkeep of the university town in return for the Council of Magi and the Sagacious Senate assisting us magically as a civilization whenever they could. Striking deals with guilds and providing both infrastructure and military magic as required.They'd set up a public library, with some sections restricted based on membership into a School or College, representing higher learning that requires an understanding of the underpinnings of a specific school or college before one could do more than hurt themselves practicing such things (also lets the colleges and schools keep their individual identities through the spells they can cast).A hard and vast rule would be that once somebody joins the university, they're free to join into any other college or school, provided they can pay tuition for classes (or have a scholarship of some sort), and are willing to work from the bottom up.Doesn't matter if you're an Archmage of College A, if you want to learn the secrets of School C, you'd better start as a student there and work your way up.
>>37910676OH LORD WHAT HAVE I DONE
>>37910861tuition would be set by an examining board at the time the school was taking admissions. You go in, you're tested to see if you'd be a good addition to the school. Depending on how much of a credit you were as far as the faculty was concerned, the admissions board would lower or raise your tuition. Yearly tests would determine changes in tuition as well so students would be encouraged to work as hard as possible to keep their tuition low.Basically how the university tuition and admissions worked in 'Name of the Wind'.
>>37910732>>37910861That sounds good. It would be a monumental effort though. I wonder if we'd have to wait for another economic boom and construct it as a wonder.
>>37910911Might be wise, but we can atleast begin approaching the largest cults and begin pitching the idea to them? If they actively work to help bring about that economic boom so that the wonder that is the University, then that'd bring about a LOT to help encourage the acceptance and existence of it?Would this be an idea or an action to roll for btw?
>>37910861I don't think taxes are currently a thing.People just get together and help out if something needs to get done.
Rolled 28 (1d100)>>37909938supporting, if still possible
>>37909735>>37909763>>37909894>>37909971>>37909994>>37910034>>37909892>>37909854>>37909922>Investigate, Support, and protect Akalade>Roll 20/20 >Complete success. This is something your people had already done of their own volition, but ever since the Death of Akalade's husband years ago he's been quietly surrounded by a cloud of his Husbands descendants: sons, daughters, and other relatives that have accepted and continue to respect Akalade's position within their family. With his work taking him to the mainland; some family members follow with him and a few sympathizers do as well. The Sage council even allows a small entourage of armed individuals whenever he roams outside the city walls to look after the little Elf.As for the root of Akalade's paranoia; it's more noticed by his family members and close attendants, but Akalade hasn't been sleeping very well, something is calling out to him in his dreams. He spends most of his nights quietly huddled in his room; holding onto himself, other times he spends it gazing at the moon for hours. Most often though he's awoken up in the middle of the night by spasms and choked back gasps of fear.Akalade refuses to sleep by himself anymore, "Something is coming for me and I don't want to be alone when or if it comes."
>>37911011we'll reroll for it next action phase
>>37910989Well run it off of donations and the tuition system? If this runs without taxes then presumably we're still a trade and barter system. This'd still work under such a system.
>>37911016> "Something is coming for me and I don't want to be alone when or if it comes."
>>37911016What's coming for him? We should try to protect him however we can
>>37911079Possibly the progenitor. Trying to influence him and get him to interfere with Mycea's plan.
so seriously, would the whole approach occultists thing be an idea or would it be an action? If we were trying to get the ball rolling on bringing about the train of thought presented in the following:>>37910211>>37910465>>37910489>>37910617>>37910732>>37910861>>37910899
>>37909963>So I just want to be clear on what I've read... we're a multiracial empire, primarily cyclops but also including gorgons now, who have recently encountered other civilizations for the first time formally, and through that are undergoing a cultural and technological revolution?We've been in contact with Gorgons for almost thousands of years at this point; their alchemy development is a recent trend.>Tech level is basically about mid greek dominance of the Mediterranean? Fall of Troy and such?Correct.>We have our own island (which is the southern landmass on the map) which is not fully explored I think? What do the various colors of arrow represent? Trade routes? Also is that a northern landmass or a series of islands or just 'explored' regions of the world?The Map is "upside down". Our Lands include the various little islands, The Tip of the mainland and Mycea's Grove- which just borders the mountain range bordering the plains. Coloured Arrows represent trade routes and movement of various factions: Red, Cyclopes. Purple, Gorgon Empire. Pink, Mycea. Blue, Southern Cyclopes.The Southern landmass is an entirely separate continent; it is a frozen land unthawed in certain locations through geothermal activity and is the home of a Sister Civilization of Southern Inuit/Maori like Cyclopes. You guys can go ahead and roll for Actions now.
>>37911217I'd say it'd either be an idea or a wonder. It introduces some new concepts and calls for some massive building projects.
>>37911260If we want a wonder, we need dosh.Work on economic improvements or get more resources.
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>37911246Guard Mycea's projects.
Rolled 6 (1d100)>>37911246Expand the new colony over the mountains.
Rolled 97 (1d100)>>37911246Develop Alchemy
Rolled 74 (1d100)>>37911246Idea: Weaponizing the Bells
>>37911274We do have access to gems now but we haven't really looked into them. It might be worth it.
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>37911287supporting
Rolled 65 (1d100)>>37911217I say multipart.I say the establishment of formal universities for the Occultists might be an idea. Reach out to them and say its okay to practice. Maybe addons such as College towns could be included eventually by way of actions.
>>37911287Yeah, lets cover all the bases.>>37911307This is also good.
Rolled 49 (1d100)>>37911274>>37911260So I'd want to roll it as an idea to start? Which is a 1d100 right?NEW IDEA FOR THE CIVILIZATION>The occult and magic and the knowledge it brings should not be shunned, but accepted. We should begin seeking out and approaching the largest cults of occultists. Offer them a place in our society where they need not be feared for their curiosity and talents. Ask them to help build places where those interested in them can come forward and learn without fear of discrimination.>The end goal would be to make a place of learning about the occult and magical and mystical, where such things were celebrated and knowledge shared and grown and cultivated like fruit in our vast orchards. Basically following the train of thought presented here:>>37910211>>37910465>>37910489>>37910617>>37910732>>37910861>>37910899Not actually building a wonder yet, just creating a the idea that we should HAVE this.
Rolled 4 (1d20)>>37911246Improve mining techiniques.. Maybe by drilling through the mountains.
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>37911246Put a stop to the incest and pedophilia as it damages the community?
>>37911372Could we get a ruling on this, OP? Is this something we could accomplish with a roll or is it a wonder?
>>37911319>make jewelry>make music boxes with soothing charm spells>sell to the south and to gorgon empire/tribes>rake in mad dosh
>>37911425We might want to look into their magical properties first before we start trading them in large amounts though.
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>37911287supporting as well
>>37911372I'll support this if it's feasible as just an idea.
Rolled 79 (1d100)>>37911372supporting
>>37911405well someone has rolled for it already. Though its a minor roll so far basically "Reachout and establish schools" >>37911349Might be something we'll need to do in stages.
Rolled 1 (1d100)>>37911372>>37911502Forgot to roll.
Rolled 63 (1d100)>>37911425>>37911464Research the properties of the gems gained from the gorgons and our new mines
>>37911379What incest and pedophilia? We don't have that?
Rolled 11 (1d20)Rolling to support the action to help make Manticores road wardens with the help of Mycea>>37909938 as mentioned here
Rolled 7 (1d20)>>37909938Supporting as best I can.
Rolled 12 (1d100)>>37911571we had 3 other people roll decently on it. Don't doomsay quite yet. Otherwise another idea;See if we can get Mycea to convince the Manticore tribe to not be murderous dicks. or is that more of an action?
>>37911539You might want to read this?http://pastebin.com/iahm4JSj
>>37911613Axtion I think. Though it'll probably have to wait for the next go-round.
>>37911529You should have continued to forget.
>>37911287>>37911302>>37911363>Provide Support for Mycea's Project>Roll 11/20>Minimal Success.>Mycea: Mother & Father of Fungi, Demi-god of harvest, ex-slave of elves and physical expression of the moon... Will accept your help, but does not want to be a Burden. The Sage Council wishes to formally begin supporting the Machinations of Mycea; She does not entirely accept, but she also doesn't entirely decline. She's already long received the Pod and has begun cultivating and experimenting a most fertile and aggressive fungal growth. She then addresses the concerns and assistance of your people, "I appreciate your concern and you know I always welcome your support and company, but I think it would be best if you let me take responsibility from this point onward. The only beings who hold any association with this scheme are currently myself, the Hydra Mother, and through no fault of his own; the elf Akalade." There is a distinct sad and resolved tone to her voice, "If this plan backfires; I do not wish to see your kind held responsible for my actions. I wish the great writhing beast to continue to let his ignorance and arrogance undermine his plans so he can continue to believe I am taking advantage of your kindness- as opposed to the reality of you made aware of my plans."
Might it be time for a simple code of laws? Nothing drastic but we could clearly lay out what punishments fit what crimes. Murder, rape, pedophilia, theivery, etc. are all things we should we should probably have a formal way of dealing with soon.I'm not so sure incest should be added to the list of crimes but maybe we should actively discourage incestuous couples from producing children. We know enough about medicine now, I think, to know it has negative effects if left unchecked.
>>37911813so now we're patsies to a cosmic crime. Great. I mean more power to her to "protecting" us. But she is aware that if her plan fails, we'll stand to protect her if the deep things wage war on her... So it isn't much difference. we might be in the long haul regardless.
>>37911813Seems legit. If she was really trying to fuck us over or leave us holding the bag then she'd gladly welcome us formally and then put us between herself and the merfolk.
>>37911902There are only two crimes.The Crime of Lies and the Crime of Theft.Everything is theft, from health, to life, to innocence, to soundness of being, etc. It's all theft.If we set up laws, we should call Lawyers "Lie Breakers" and Police "Thief Takers"
>>37911932Agreed. This just gives us more reason to trust her, imo.
>>37911313We are a peaceful people! Also, magic tends to harm some (most?) gorgons.
>>37912020Obviously we should get the occultists on our side to cure their magic allergy! There are gorgon cultists after all!
>>37911307>>37911363>Develop Alchemy>Roll 97/100>HOT 97 +Interesting Results, +Occultism.They seem to slowly come out of the wood work every so often; not so much Gorgons, but Cyclopes. Cyclopean individuals whom steal themselves away in Caves, abandoned or lop-sided dwellings in distant villages or derelict and over-grown portions of Cities.. there they concoct all manner of both mundane, magical, benign and nefarious experiments all in the name of their own interpretation of what they consider to be the best for the community and the whole. Their Exile is voluntary- often not wanting to burden or endanger others with the event of their accidental death or the ensuing cross fire. They do however relinquish this exile when they discover something truly astounding: Medicines, Dyes, Potions and Elixirs with all manner of beneficial and interesting Qualities and even sometimes something as mundane as a simple breakthrough in chemistry they wish to share. >+Alchemy Discovered>Alchemy is the application of very subtle forms of magic applied to both inorganic and organic compounds for the creation of interesting chemical compounds. Anything from Medicine, Chemical weapons, to even mundane things such as interesting beverages or flavor enhancers are possible through Alchemy.>+Branching discoveries: +Dyes (Blue, Purple,), +Silver Mining, +Improved Medicine, +Improved Alcohol. >More complicated dyes produced from Insect and shellfish shells can now be produced with the help of Alchemy. Silver mining requires a complex understand of dangerous and toxic chemicals to separate it from the earth. Alchemy allows for the greater cultivation and application of more powerful medical elixirs, dried medicines and potions. Alchemy also allows for STRONGER Alcohols to be produce- something gorgons didn't consider.
>>37912270Something other than Red Black and bleached White. Nice. Imagine the things we can do now. Lanterns, Light posts, lights at night. Hell maybe even wax, gunpowder, fireworks.
>>37912270all the knowledge!
>>37912270Stronger alcohol = Stronger Sages
Oh man i keep missing the start of this.I hope we still have a few more posts left, i really want to push logistics.
>>37912498We probably do. We're only a couple of hours in.
>>37912498>http://pastebin.com/iahm4JSjWe should still have a ways to go yet.Out of curiosity, how is our development on land-based vehicles? I know we're pretty behind on that stuff, but I just need a refresher on how far we've gotten.
>>37912556I think we have carts and wagons pulled by elephants.
>>37912524Thank Christ.>>37912556Need to improve carpentry, do some logistics (supply and demand), develop shoes so roads become more practical, and then develop paved roads if you want to up that area.
>>37911313>Idea: Weaponizing the Bells>Roll 74/100>Above Average Succes, +Racial Bonus.Due to your Races peaceful and docile disposition; it doesn't happen on purpose, but it DOES eventually happen due to their deeply ingrained culture surrounding Hymns, Chants, and other forms of vocalized magical practices. Bells were originally created as an instrument for finer magical practices; Bells can be rung with very little effort and in doing so carry a simple tone that resounds constantly and reliable for harmonic experimentation.Some wise guy eventually found out through proper application and convergence of boisterous in-tone Hymns and Chants; one can effectively with a flick of the wrist, call forth thunder, fire, water, and earth..... It is not completely 100% perfect though or flawless, as someone who is out of tune with their bell can very easily have it backfire upon them with explosive results.However, the results cannot be ignored; everyone is quite easily dazzled and amazed when an experienced Sage rings his bell and lets loose the resonating call of crackling thunder, boisterous and vivid flames, the rumbling and erupting power of the earth or the tidal forces of water.
>>37912556carts pulled by beasts of burdens and rickishaws mostly for older or infirmstuff we copied from the gorgons
>>37912270Are there still occultist communities out there? Or was this what they were all working along the lines of for the most part?I still think we should create an environment where they can exile themselves while still being safer.The school would be a place where NO ONE need be endangered. A containment area as it were?This might be a project for settlements, building 'wizard's towers' where occultists can gather and train and learn from one another and experiment where help is within easy reach, but the tower itself acts an isolation unit as it were.You do your experiment at the top of the tower so that if it all goes wahoonie shaped, the explosion is well above the heads of anyone it can hurt, and if anything dangerous is unleashed, it's got a ways to fall and will likely be hurt or even killed by the fall?Heck, what about compounds within sight of the city walls but still within easy reach? These are people doing their best for our communites with their research. They should share that and expand it?So next action I'm going to move for the building of "Occult Compounds" where they can work together, share knowledge, while still being isolated from population centers so that they need not worry about their experiments harming others.
>>37912654A pretty similar plan has already been laid out. We're just waiting for the turn to pass before we try to push it through.
We should really push for making new communities off the islands and the coast. A single tsunami or earthquake can wipe out our whole population.
>>37912824Agreed. Maybe make one island specifically for the occultists? But more colonies would be a good idea.
>>37912824We have a few in-land towns. Mycea's and the one near the mountains. More wouldn't be a bad idea though.
Maybe we could do homesteading? Encourage cyclops to settle lands on their own. Fill the space between our current settlements and existing empires.
>>37912951Where -are- our settlements on the map? I thought we were the giant city...
>>37912951I'm not sure that's something they'd want to do. They have a very strong sense of community and a dislike for individualism. Trying to make their way on their own probably isn't something that appeals to many cyclopeans.
>>37913036I dunno bout that. They might just set up farms as a group.
>>37912951>>37913036Still pastoral communities or farms in the plains seen like a good step.
>>37913064And some tech to go with it to increase food production. I'm going to push for things like wheelbarrows, plows, irrigation, etc. if it hasn't been researched yet.
>>37913047>>37913064Agreed, but those would be more like communes or normal towns than homesteads.
>>37913015We're the small islands and the peninsula of the mainland. All the other places on the mainland are the Gorgon tribes and City.
>>37913146what's the set of places far to the north (south?) of us? Across the ocean?
So something like >Settle the plains with new communities. ?
>>37911349>>37911372>Acknowledge and Study the Existence of Current Occultist trends across Cyclopean Territory.>Roll 65/100>Lucky 5 roll, Honest results, but not perfect. +Racial Collectivism & Docility. -Gorgon InfluenceOccultism has recently begun extremely popular in this coming Hymn and the chorus of our time has been the flow of deep and mysterious arcane secrets and study that many young, budding, Cyclopean individuals feel are too dangerous, disturbing, or unusual to practice in decent and respectable society. Your people however are very forgiving, kind, and patient- and these feelings extend almost endlessly to your own species. Through patience and understanding you are able to catalogue and document the current most popular fields of study: >+Theology Discovered+>Theologians are simple and reclusive individuals whom are motivated in their efforts to understand the divine canons that rule and order our universe. In Cyclopean civilization there is much spill over from Astrology, Astromancy, as your gods are often seen as literal rulers of the heavens and cosmic beings such as the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars. The Solar priesthood and the Weeping sages are effectively just "publicly popular" cults. >+Necromancy Discovered+ >Necromancy from a Gorgon's perspective is the formal study and manipulation of Death. Within Cyclopean Occultism Necromancy is the study of Rot, Fungal Growth, Death, Spirits, Ghosts, with occasional references to the Stars. It is a morbid and misunderstood practice that is seen as distasteful and their practitioners understand this. They believe their work however can potentially save lives. (part 2 incoming, please by patient.)
>>37913191Thats the Southern Cyclops, they're a seperate civ at the moment.
>>37913202>+Eldritch Study Discovered+>Druidism is a faint and distant echoe of the truth: the world as we know it grown from the flesh of deceased ancient beings, the old tales speaking of all life sprouting from the torn asunder and consumed flesh of ancient horrors that haunt even the oldest and most cosmic being's minds and dreams- both preceding and causing all of creation. The disturbing and ancient horrors that lie within the most primordial dreams and echoes of an ancient and savage time are not for the faint of heart; they are to be studied, understood, and taught in the utmost secrecy so that Cyclopean Civilization may come to one day understand the origins and meaning of life.>+Demonology Discovered+>This cult was only made aware simply due to how seemingly unique and exclusive it was; Made up of only a very small cult following consisting of a few individuals- with one noticeably being a two-headed Cyclopes. When interviewed or asked what their mission statement was they simply answered, >"The Red world Calls."
>>37913491>"The Red world Calls."Mars is hell? How very Doom. I hope they're all based on Abyssal ships.
Huh. We may want to outlaw demonology before it even gets a foothold. Maybe we could consult Mycea about it.
>>37913545it could be ways to FIGHT demons though
>>37913545And maybe keep an eye on the guys studying Eldritch things before they start rolling Sanity checks.
>>37913491>+Eldritch Study Discovered+>+Demonology Discovered+All in favor of proscribing this studies say "Aye". Aye.
Alright, that's "three".>>37913191That's the southern continent. Like I've said before: it's completely dominated by icebergs, permafrost, snow, etc.. The "patches" are where constant Geothermal activity has allowed reliable habitation and the growth of native flora and fauna to take place. It's currently habituated by a neighboring Cyclopean Civilization You guys can feel free to roll for new actions now.After this set of new Actions Mycea will be ready to enact her plan and that will effectively start taking effect.
>>37913202>TheologyThis one should be easy. Places of learning set up around this would be simplicity itself.>NecromancyWe gotta fix this. Necromancy, in it's proper place, is not just the resurrection of corpses, it's a place to understand death and to give consolation to those who were beloved of the departed. Necromancers could easily fill the role of priests of death in our society, seeing to the proper care and disposal of corpses, calling on ancestral spirits for guidance, and also helping fight diseases and sickness. Their use of the stars might also put them in a position to work closely with the Theologians.>DruidismThis one I think needs to be basically made into our occult police force. They best understand the terrible powers that lead to the creation of this world. Making it so that, from top to bottom, the cults of Druids would be made to protect our peoples from these things, perhaps even to police the other occult organizations like the Theologians, Necromancers, and Alchemists, and maybe whatever group is responsible for the magical bells, to see to it they don't stray off the path might be a really good idea.>DemonologyWe need to learn a fuckton more about these guys... but first I think we should work to formalize the Alchemists, Theologians, Necromancers, and Druids. Each needs to be given a place in our society, a function, a purpose beyond simply learning for learning's sake. A reason to exist beyond simple discovery, but a purpose to put these discoveries too.Demonology, however, sounds bad, and we need to learn a lot more about it.Current ideas:Theologians: Basically our current sages right? They made the battle-bells and similar? So they should continue with that. Seems to be our arcane school in some ways.Alchemists: Healers and scientists of natural philosophy, applying their learning towards commerce and medicine?>cont.
>>37913577It doesn't sound like it, but I think it's worth asking the most powerful being we know, and probably the stars, about it before we encourage it's study.
Rolled 86 (1d100)>>37913673Idea: Invent footwear. We're going all around the continent, we're hiking through the mountains for crying out loud. We need proper shoes.
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>37913673Consult Mycea about the new magic of demonology. Ask her about "The Red World."
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>37913673Develop better logisticsEssentially allowing more complex things to be done faster. More layers of management etc.
Did we ever make concrete?
Rolled 86 (1d100)>>37913673Settle the plains with new communities. We talk about this.
Rolled 9 (1d20)>>37913746supporting
>>37913684Necromancers: Priests of Death, seeing to it that the dead remain unprofaned and that they are treated with respect, guarding grave yards, and helping people deal with the deaths of their loved ones, or even helping the terminally ill or mortally wounded come to terms with their own deaths and be able to accept them. Also working with the spirits of the dead for guidance, protection, and working to see to it that such spirits are able to move onto the afterlife or whatever.Necromancers might work very closely with alchemists in the study of disease and the body to perfect medicine. They might also work closely with Theologians in the study of the stars. This would help police them and keep them from turning their talents towards profaning the dead.Druidism: They're playing with fire, but we know such beings exist, and we need to have a base level knowledge of them. We should have our Druids act as guardians, protectors, fighters of the dark things from the dawn of time and protectors of sanity. They might also be good at helping repair the minds of the broken and insane?
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>37913673Diplomancy the manticore, spider and dinosaur tribes as mentioned above, bringing in mycea to help them settle into a mutually beneficial situation where the Manticores stop raiding and instead act as guides and guards
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>37913673Refine our healing with our new understanding of alchemy and arcane magic.
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>37913815supporting, also how goes the Gorgon Empress and the potential God-Emperor Gorclopse?
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>37913815Supporting
Rolled 15 (1d29)>>37913684Establish trade/Trade settlements with Changelings in the Grasslands. Might be nice if their nomadic tribes had places to stop by.
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>37913673Send another diplomatic envoy to the Changelings, propose trade and their aid in creating a new colony past the mountains, perhaps near the jungle we discovered last thread
Rolled 64 (1d100)>>37913910Shit messed up the dice slightly there. Should I roll again? Or leave it at that since it is in the 1-20 range?Otherwise an Idea, Consolidate Theologian research into public record. Creating an Occult Library might be a neat way to edge things closer to public schooling/universities.
Rolled 70 (1d100)>>37913673Help draw together the 4 major communities of occultists (theologians, necromancers, druids, and alchemists) into unified organizations. Perhaps various temples of worship/respect of different aspects of reality?Druids for example would respect the origins of life (in the same way you respect a hungry tiger), but know that they must be defended against rather than worshipped.
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>37913929Seconding this.We should have a permanent trading post for the changelings.
>>37913997So a kind of official guild version for each?
>>37913968>>37913997These could work well together. Publishing their work might also be a nice way of getting them formalized/understood. Sorta like how Darwin published his findings regarding "the origin of species" would lead things down the line to Evolution being respected/understood rather than "Crackpot"-y.Or maybe there's a better example.
>>37914085I think we usually do record our magical findings. The Arcanum has huge rooms just for scrolls, I believe.
>>37913704>Idea: Invent footwear.((We actually already have leather shoes/moccasins and sandals, since I blame myself for this oversight for not making this more aware; would you like to use this roll for something else? Or would you like us to just have really nice/better shoes?))>>37913745>>37913688>Ask Mycea's opinion on the latest occultist discoveries. >Roll 17/20>Succes, +Mycea genuinely would not lie to you.>Theology>"The Study of the Stars, Sun, and Moon seem practical, but be warned; The "true" Gods are not flesh and blood like me and you- they may not always be so sympathetic towards the lives of natural beings.." She quickly cuts herself off and becomes flustered, blushing profusely and stuttering, "Though, please; forgive my disrespect. I did not in anyway mean to criticize your Culture- I'm terrible sorry, please forgive me.>Necromancy>"You've become Curious about Necromancy?" Her eyes immediately light up and she seems to personally become very flattered as she trails off onto a rant, "The study of mushrooms, rot, mold, disease, and decay.. the pursuit and respect towards the natural cycle of death and rebirth.." She becomes flustered, placing her palms on her cheeks and rocking from side to side. "I would be honored to instruct you on proper Necromatic teachings- Oh my, oh my, oh my goodness!" (part 2 incoming)
>>37914178maybe a sideffect for inventing better shoes? Like say... we invent a suite of "utilitarian" shoes that let us explore the tundra, or wellingtons to explore more grasslands/swamps. Or straight up armored boots.Not the guy that posted the invent footware thing, just making suggestions.
>>37914178>Mycea gushing about NecromancyMy god, so adorable.
>>37914178(Change of plans: use it for improving overland travel and vehicles, maybe even using magic to create a land version of the flying pot.)(Also, thanks for offering to reuse the roll, that's super cool of you.)
>>37914178Better shoes and clothes in general would be nice.Maybe we could get stockings too!
>>37914311so just aesthetics rather than usefulness? Hm... well moccasins do need to be replaced more often. Maybe just some more supporting boots. Or clogs, or sandals. Maybe cleats for mountain climbing? Boots for long treks? Or greaves for protection.
>>37914268wonder if necromancy can be used to enrich the land and increase crop yields.
>>37914396Clothes aren't useless. They're good protection against the cold, heat, the sun, and slight protection against bodily harm.The fact it looks good is just secondary.
>>37914432I would think so. It must be the kind of magic Mycea uses most of the time and she has brought a lot of life back to the region.
>>37914464maybe magic boots? weaving songs into the threads of clothing
>>37914615Sounds like a good idea.
I hope my 20 for better healing magic made it through. That could be amazing.
>>37914708I could only imagine the results. Last time we rolled for healing stuff we got "Mana fixes all wounds" kind of thing. Man we ought to mess around with mana more.
>>37914735Mana is divine stem cell soup
>>37914178>Elderitch Study>Her Tone takes one of hesitation and discomfort, "Yes, that is technically correct; All forms of Contemporary Druidism (including Necromancy) at their very basis are watered down and safer version of Eldiritch study. It is uncomfortable for me to admit, but all living things tie their origins to those unsavory and ancient creatures." She takes a moment to collect herself, "I think if handled responsibly it could have the potential to do great good and bring about a kind of fertility and richness in living diversity we don't normally experience but I could just as equally see it being abused.">Demonology.>You mention the "The Red world calls" and her face empties of colour, her eyes grow dull and distant as she stares off into nothing'ness. She's unresponsive for quite some time until she slowly begins to weep; her eyes flowing with tears and her nose running before she bursts into outright hysterics, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no- NO. NO. NO- I WILL NOT GO BACK. WE WILL NOT GO BACK- YOU MUSN'T GO BACK. WE WILL NEVER GO BACK. NEVER. NEVER EVER." She clutches onto your emmissarie's shoulders, her entire body is shivering, "WHO. Who said this? What do you know? WHAT HAS HAPPENED?!" >When she is told it is isolated to one Cult she calms down and tries to regain some of her composure in between whiping away her tears and nose, "You must save them. You must stop them because I love you and I know you and I know they are doing what the think is best in their hearts. They need to be stopped- do not force them, I know you can change their hearts; you are an honest and loving people. Please, you must stop them."
>>37914543Sounds like necromancy can heal as well? As long as it derives from a current life source? Maybe we could donate vital energy like humans donate blood? Or the terminally ill could give up the last of their vital energy for a quick, painless death? Or criminals, rather than doing time could donate their lifespan to the common good?
>>37914844Eldritch Study could bring back extinct creatures like the Boiling Lizard or the ParratREDEMPTION
>>37914844Ho shit. Okay we're putting a full stop on any and all Demonology practice.
>>37914844>They need to be stopped- do not force them, I know you can change their heartsOkay. This seems really important. How can we do this peacefully and respectfully?
>>37914844Sounds like making Druids into guardians of life and diversity would be a fun choice.Also time to crack that demonology cult open. We can redeem them. But if we can't we'll have to stop them.
>>37914922Considering our cultures reverence for mycea, it may be a good point to argue from to halt all research into it for now, or at least until we are so proficient in arcane we can easily brush off any red world influence.
>>37914844Welp.Guess we're gonna break the bad news to the Demonology guys.
>>37914918>ParratNo. Even if we bring them back in a form that's prior to us meddling with them, they're still at the very least pests and vermin.
>>37914957Agreed. We ask them to explain themselves and explain her reaction.
We gotta talk to them about it.That two headed moon touched one could bring the most trouble.We still don't know what he could be capable of.
>>37914844Come on, say it with "Demonology is now a proscribe study."
THE RED WORLD CALLShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKfupO4ZzPs
>>37914918The parrats still exist though.
>>37914918>>37914948Sounds good to me. What if Druids become guardians of life? Repairing places ravaged by disaster, promoting life, guarding against corruptive threats and using their knowledge of horrors to defend against them and unwind 'lesser' magics being abused by lesser mages, since it seems all magic is derived from elder itch occultism.
>>37914957That could work. It'd at least help our argument.
>>37915123Similar to the druids from Eberron fighting back against the plane of madness and chaos of the dream world.
>>37915032The none sentient ones yes.
>>37913746>>37913766>Develop better logistics>Roll 17/20>Success. +Mageocracy, +MeritocracyYour people are all together very lazy; this isn't a bad thing as it often keeps them out of trouble and most of your endeavors and greatest feats have been from a pure and innocent passion and love for something- often the group as a whole. The problem though is it takes a while to get anything done, people have a tendency to forget things, and if you don't persist in reminding individuals... sometimes projects will even be completely abandoned because they are "too hard"- afterwards being picked up again months later.This has stopped. The Development of better logistics, record keeping, and people who are genuinely quite anal about such things have been slowly placed into these positions to prevent "boredom" and "discouragement" from taking place in a work environment. >+Actions can no longer fail due to Cyclopes simply losing interest or becoming disheartened. Actions, structures, and large complicated projects like wise will take less time, resources, and with a higher quality of finish simply on the grounds that people aren't opting out to drink and play soccer for weeks or skipping work early for a quick lunch and a visit to the bath house.
>>37914918Maaaaaaybe not. Bringing back a species that is already dead sounds a lot like Pet Sematary territory.And using Eldritch Studies to do so sounds like a way for everything to go horribly, horribly wrong.And let's not even consider if, in addition to the above, we bring back the parrats of all species.
>>37915175Basically yeah. But they also could be our anti ages. Unraveling spells by using their original, elder itch first principles.
>>37915213The Boiling Lizards still live in the area of the Southern Cyclopes.
Question- cyclopeans don't have names? How do individuals refer to each other then?
>>37915191>Actions can no longer fail due to Cyclopes simply losing interest or becoming disheartened. Actions, structures, and large complicated projects like wise will take less time, resources, and with a higher quality of finish simply on the grounds that people aren't opting out to drink and play soccer for weeks or skipping work early for a quick lunch and a visit to the bath house.I love these fuckers
The Parrats didn't go extinct, did they? I thought their demi-god just took them away from our islands.
We should probably do something about the pedophilia problem we have soon, people in positions of authority need to be culturally pushed to act like it is a responsibility that can be taken away, not a privilege.My suggestion for dealing with it would be normal punishment for the first crime, but a 'black mark' for continued. Tattoo the persons face or palm of their hand with a criminal mark so others know to be wary of them.
>>37915277yeah they're not around the main island but they're still AROUND
>>37915277Yup! Parrat Moses led them to the promised land.
>>37915251I think "Names" are a thing. I mean they'd have to be so you'd know to trust Wimoweh the Singer rather than Bowuha the Poopsmith to entertain a group of gorgon emissaries. Its just Individualism is not important, that doesn't mean cyclopses don't have names and aren't individuals themselves. If something can be done, it can be done in a group. If someone is in charge, a bunch of people are in charge.
>>37915183And? It's better that way.
>>37915287Yeah, it is a problem that needs to be addressed. Incest too, but the pedophilia is a priority.Also, if we are going to use the tattoo, make it the face. Not everybody notices hands, but faces are always looked at.
>>37915287Agreed. A tattoo around the eye of anyone who commits pedophillia. Also those in office must never lie, or they should be removed from office and given a tattoo as well. Not as obvious, but still.
>>37915351>Bowuha the PoopsmithTo be perfectly honest if I was visit a foreign nation and I heard that there was a man whose name was poopsmith I would be very curious as to how he earned it. I would not shake his hand however
>>37915361I think the problems that stem from incest could be at least partly remedied with just better education in biology. I don't think we necessarily need to criminalize it.
>>37915401Pedophillia needs to be though. Second offense is banishment though I think.
>>37915401I have an incestuous second aunt and uncle somewhere in my family tree, that said they didn't know they were related until they found out they shared the same grandpa-grandma brother sister pair down the line. They had been going out for a while at that point and ... liked eachother enough, they just swore off having kids in case of complications.
>>37915351Maybe Cyclopes names are like internet usernames. Everyone has different ones for different places and contexts.
>>37915361>>37915367We need to make sure it is a very specific pattern of facial tattoo, not something easily gotten rid of or forged. Not to mention to make sure other face tattoos are not ostracized, as that could be culturally damaging. I suggest we invest in using a specific colour of tattoo, like red alongside the pattern to make it more clearly defined.Shame is earnt. Forgiveness will take a lifetime.
>>37915451There you go. That's all we really need to promote.
>>37915465We could also take the method of that African tribe. Criminals are brought into the center of a circle of their friends and family and reminded of every good thing they've ever done, reminded that they are BETTER than the person they were when they committed the crime.
>>37915516That's a very cool idea. Very cyclopean, I think.
>>37913762>Settle the plains with new communities.>Roll 86/100>Complete Success -Racial penalty, -Hostile EnvironmentCyclopean traffic has dramatically increased with the mining town and Mycea herself acting as something of a sister city-state that you currently control. This has made Colonizing and founding new communities on the plain a lot easier, but even then most Cyclopes are not keen on building settlements in the open, bald-ass, plains. The Mountain pass has even begun to cultivate rich and hearty Fungal growth due to the efforts of local Cyclopes dwelling within mining communities. Settlement has been established sporadically on the Jungles that begin just around the coasts; underneath the mountains and despite the presence of Hippos, Manticores, and Therasaurs.. it isn't a bad place to live: The plains offer ideal hunting grounds and the Jungles provide perfect temperatures and territory for fungal and orchard cultivation your people rely on for food. New movement and Settlement patterns have been marked on our Map.
>>37915511tone fair, parent-child incest, even if both are adults, needs to be discouraged entirely. Abuse of position and all. Really think we need to swear it off entirely.
Another thing we could do: Set up a friendly football competition between our civ and the snowclops. Makes for a more interesting and close nit relationship.
>>37915572Yeah. That'd fall under the ban on pedophilia I should think. I don't think we should try to limit the behavior among consenting adults though. As long as they're aware of the dangers it poses to their children.
>>37915561we should set up a water route between our islands and the new jungle settlement.
>>37915649No, even between a consenting adult and their consenting adult parent. It's too much of a power imbalance
>>37915649Also, we may be able to advance healing magic to the point where genetic problems are no longer a worry.
>>37915646This would be cool.
>>37915697I think it's just asking for trouble honestly. We should just ban it and discourage it.
>>37915731Social Taboo to do, but fine to talk about. We should never stifle discussion, just make sure all the reasonable logical arguments are well supported, taught and recorded.
>>37915803I can get behind that.
>>37915731I don't. I don't want fo police their bedrooms. Sex is something the cyclops really enjoy, if the participants are consenting, of age, and responsible I don't see a reason to interfere.
>>37915835And you honestly don't think that a parent can't put undue influence on their own child? Even a child that is a 'consenting adult'.Cyclops are fond of sex sure. But rape is rape, when you use influence to get someone to 'agree' to sex, that's rape. I'm pretty sure the cyclops don't think tricking or using influence to get sex out of somebody as cool.
>>37914311>>37914279>Improve overland Travel, Vehicles, and perhaps find a magical application to ease travel.>Roll 86/100>Success +Hovering pot,Some of your people have to travel- quite a lot in fact. Trade between the Gorgon Empires, Mycea's city, and the distant mining villages have all lead to the development of proper roads and pathways that are respected and kept well maintained (something even Mycea herself invests time into showing proper care towards). Cyclopes still however have to Traverse these on foot as no Creature is large enough to hold their weight and even Elephants and Triceratops are only fit for pulling wagons or carts... and realistically Rickshaws do not actually solve the problem.. even though the general census is they are incredibly fun. >+Hovering Wagon invented+The Hovering wagon is an alteration on the model of the floating pot; instead of a focus on hovering about and looking amazing and bringing for jealous looks from inferior cultures below.. The Hovering wagon provides a lot more in the way of humble practicality and function. A large clay-work engraved "wagon", with iron and gold pipes feeding into a bell just below the structure that contains a magnetic and polarized clapper. As The pipes are fed hymns- they feed into the bell below which allows it to however very slightly off the ground. The pipes like wise also control steering as one can control which pipe is sung into to maneuver the bell's polarity below. It is clumsy and no faster than walking- peeking out at a top speed of a "jog" unless you get out and push it- but it's something.
>>37915965We should tie a beast of burden to it in order to exponentially increase their carrying capacity!
Rolled 40 (1d100)>>37915965>even though the general census is they are incredibly fun.Let's make magic roller coasters next.
Rolled 78 (1d100)>>37916031lets expand that into other amusing rides also.
Rolled 5 (1d20)We should approach the cult if the red planet and tell them our friend's reaction, ask for a full explanation and for them to pause while we deliberate upon whether or not to Perdue these studies as we pursue the other 4 schools.
>>37915948I 'm not going to turn this into an argument that drags on all the way through the thread. We know where we stand and that can be the end of it.
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>37915965Organize the 4 types of occultism ( alchemy, theology, necromancy, and elder itch studies) into district and organized temples focused on study of their subjects and providing guidance and help to others as they can through their various disciplines.
It's not time for rolls yet guys.
Just answering some questions/concerns that don't require rolls before we move onto Mycea's event.>>37913863>How goes the Gorgon Empress and the potential God-Emperor Gorclopse?Every generation and rebirth of the Gorgon empress has progressively birthed a new empress who's likeness, mindset, and resemblance to the Hydra mother constantly grows. We're at the point where her reincarnations no longer possess legs and instead are lamia-like in their physical form and her current count for "upper body torso heads" is at 3. ((Reminder: The Hydra mother has the body of a hydra- where instead of heads she has entire Gorgon maidens, think, like.. A Hydra lamia only her snake part is a neck that feeds into the hydra's body.))>>37915948>>37915835>>37915731>>37915697>>37915694>The Current nature of incestPeople don't typically have incestual sex for the purpose of reproduction; Cyclopes learned where babies came from a while back and are pretty familiar with inbreeding and animal husbandry. The main cause of incest at the moment is either "heavy petting" between siblings or sodomy. There's no cultural stigma to tell them it's wrong or incorrect, but people do generally understand you shouldn't impregnate your sister. I will now proceed to enact Mycea's "Event" since her time is up and she's ready to go- brace for STUFF.
Rolled 66 (1d100)>>37916070Fuck, rolling for again.
Damn. No healing magic boost. Maybe next time.
>>37916248>her time is up...odd choice of words.
>>37916248Still quick... But as long as it's sibling focused... Sure. Just parent child should be taboo as fuck.
>>37916248>brace for STUFF.Here we go.
I hope we did the right things :|
>>37916248i hope she's not dead before she can teach us the ins and outs of necromancy.
>>37916248The hydra mother will lead the gorgon empire?
>>37916454Well if that happens I hope she remembers all we've done and continue to do for them. If it wasn't for us her people would be nothing but tribal barbarians.
>>37916454One can only hope.
>>37916498>>37916571I'm not sure if this is a good thing. The hydramother can be a trickster and well, gods directly ruling people might set a bad precedent
>>37916658If she rules. And as long as she's a benevolent God, who cares? Most efficient and best form of government is a a benevolent dictator after all?
She said we'll be rewarded if this works. With what I wonder?
We should ask Mycea about the moon-touched cyclopeans sometime.
>>37916823If she survives.
>Mycea: Mother & Father of Fungi, Demi-god of harvest, ex-slave of elves and physical expression of the moon Enacts her Plan.It begins abruptly on a clear and sunny day with little to no forewarning or mention on her part: the structure that makes up her mass from which grows out and acts as the heart of her territory and nourishes her begins to "pulse" with the visible flexing of artery-like tendrils that pump and guide fluids through out greater form. She does not stop anyone from entering her personal chambers and almost seems to welcome the company, but through her heavy constant breathing she admits, "This will look very.. unbecoming of a proper lady such as myself. I hope that you are not repulse by what I'm about to do." She extends her hands, "or taken back if I were to request someone hold my hands". There is no shortage of volunteers; she tightly clenches her hands, heaves, groans, and her entire form shakes violently from side to side.Outside though the true spectacle is taking place: a breath taking display of colour begins to flush and flow into the membranes and "mounds" making up the various domed structures of Mycea's form and they soon become alight with rich and vibrant pinks, blues, teals, orange, purples, and reds- a myriad of stripes and dazzling variety of colour that leaves on lookers amazed. Her domed plant-like structures begin to swell and pulse like that of a heart beat accompanied by vein-like Mycelium across her Grove become quite prominent. Mycea's humanoid form becomes pained and she begins to groan out loudly to her own embarrassment before finally her "Domes" start splitting before they burst open to reveal humongous, supple, splayed out, flowering bodies that exhume a blanketing coverage of brightly coloured spores. One after another they start popping open until the entirety of Mycea's Grove is blanketed under a gently snowing cloud of puffy spores. (part 2 inc)
>>37916899I really hope these don't fuck us over...
>>37916899Goddamnit we are gonna need alot of new names
>>37916899Did she just give birth? Or a sporgasm?
>>37916899At this point Mycea's humanoid form has become visibly exhausted and a few Cyclopes are at her side and holding her to prevent her from hanging limply in place. Her breathing is still very heavy, her face is flushed with colour, and her "hair" seems to be wilting slightly. "Almost, Almost- this was the hard way out. I'll admit, I'll admit it- there was an easier way, but it would have been selfish and it would have hurt you." She slowly rises of her own volition and catches her breath before she begins her heavy patterned breathing once more. "Okay, hold me tight please- it's the big push this time." With her Humanoid form held and embraced by a number of attendants she embraces them back and her entire being begins to convulse and shiver once more; her flowering bodies sway, the spores continue to flutter down.. the top structure begins the swell. The largest, tallest, and most prominent "dome" on Mycea begins to flex and convulse almost unnaturally and it begins to swell much larger than the others- small seams begin to burst from the dome and pour out a visibly bright orange glowing liquid your people recognize as Mana.The Dome then starts flexing upon itself, pressure seems to build up onto it, and a visible "lip" on the top begins to form; before it finally bursts open and violently expels an enormous pod of green, flesh-like, fungal growth. The Pod is ejected so quickly it leaves behind an ear-ringing crack and causes Mycea's entire form to wave back and forth. The Pod flies across the sky leaving behind a vapor trail as it goes- it's fungal tendrils that had once connected it to Mycea dangling behind it.
>>37917215I think we just saw anti-great-old-one artillery Fire...
>>37917215The pod continues to soar through the air- it flies and is ejected far, far, off into the distance. Later, Cycloptic folk living on the homeland report seeing it soar across the sky before dissapearing across the horizon and out to sea. A few handfuls of Cyclopes who were out at Sea at the time as well as some Southerners re-tell that the pod landed somewhere out at the deepest portion of the "deep" ocean; the pod seemingly spearing the ocean depths with great speed and efficiency that persisted throughout.Mycea meanwhile is a bit of a mess- she's gone limp, her personal chambers are incredibly humid, and she herself seems to have begun flowering: her breasts becoming noticeably fuller and heavier and a rich display of red and orange patterned fronds grown upon her; trailing down and become longer, more colourful, and more engorged towards her groin. She's completely exhausted, unable to support her own weight- even her hair is limp.She still tries though to retain some of her dignity and brings up her shivering hands to cover herself up, "N-no, no.. please don't look at me. This is no way for a lady to present herself. My shame, please." The Cyclopes scramble over one another to provide Mycea a blanket.
>>37917533Don't tell me she's gonna die.
>>37917533I hope she didn't just kill herself off.
>>37917560>>37917561Well, she is a demi-god of rebirth. Maybe she'll come back if worse come to worst.
>>37917533We should work to make her more comfortable, also ask her if we should prepare for anything?If she's going to die we need to help her know her city will be seen too, that her legacy and knowledge are preserved as much as possible. If she just killed herself when she had a method of preserving her own life at our expense, we owe her massively.
Could we have done more to help? It doesn't seem like it but I'm not sure.
>>37917664She turned down our formal assistance.
>>37917683I hope it wasn't just because of an inadequate roll.
>>37917560>>37917561Mycea while in the arms over your attendants, enshrouded in her blanket, still continues to "flower" and the strength from her entire form seems to be slowly sapped as the spores continue to rain down upon the entirety of her Grove. Her breathing calms down, her heart rate softens, but she slowly starts taking more drawn out breaths and lethargy over-takes her as the spores continue to rain outside."I'm sorry, I'm sorry my sweet, dear, innocent, children- I lied; this may have been the hard way out for both of us." Her voice becomes hoarse as the flowering fronds slowly over take her form and she begins to slowly physically atrophy and wither."I'm sorry, I love you." Her voice gets softer. "I'm sorry, I love you" Her hair begins falling out. "I'm sorry, I love you". She starts to curl up. "I'm sor-." >Mycea: Mother & Father of Fungi, Demi-god of harvest, ex-slave of elves and physical expression of the moon.>Has Died. A mushroom is the fleshy, spore-bearing fruiting body of a fungus, typically produced above ground on soil or on its food source. I'm sorry, Anons. This was her plan.
>>37917789She better have fucking kids.
>>37917789IM SO SAD
>>37917789Well this is definitely the first civ thread to make me cry.
What did she do? What did she DO?
Did she at least suceed at what she was trying to do? Did we just fail completely?
>>37917882>>37917887We'll find out.But I guess we should have seen this coming.We wanted to kill a god.And everything comes with a price.
>>37917789she died to save us all. Great.Well... I shouldn't be surprised but, I am. I guess we don't have any good "necromancy" source now... neither do we have a admirable bargaining chip with the Manticore tribe either.
>>37917789Can we use up all our actions and ideas this turn to get a grunted best success on throwing her the biggest most awesome funeral/wake ever?
>>37917922garunteed*Also, we should see if she'll be reborn or otherwise revived. We should bring the necromancers into a formal priesthood to honor her sacrifice and follow in her steps.A religious order devoted to rebirth, the sanctity of the fallen, and ensuring that meaningless death is avoided.
Rolled 9 (1d20)>>37917922This is the only course of Action.We should wait to see what grows in from her spores too, make this a kickass memorial sight for her
>>37917922And maybe set up a two day annual holiday? One day to mourn her loss and another to celebrate her life and give thanks.
>>37917971Now this sounds really cool.>>37917922Seconded.She did everything she could for our sakes while thinking so little of herself. Let's show her how much she is really worth.
Fuck. I just hope it wasn't for nothing. She was a great character.
Hold on, hold on. What if she just did something really bad? What if she and the hydra mother conned us?
>>37917789https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku--QYJQsPo&list=RDxG6OK4NRLPw&index=27&spfreload=1I believe we can reincarnate her. A new mega project like the Arcanum?Do you think we can do it Anons?
>>37918027Cons generally don't end with the conman dying.Also, are we all agreed? Give up all other actions and ideas this turn to take a 20 on the check to honor her Sacrufuce and investiture the necromancers as a formal religious order devoted to honoring her memory and purpose?
>>37918027I don't think so. I think she just martyred herself to save us.
>>37918077that would be fitting.
>>37918077Yeah. It's got my vote. Maybe it'll will even be a big enough event to tame the manticore tribe's ways.
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>37918046Wait... This... THIS! formalize the necromancers, we use their powers over rebirth to reincarnate her!
>>37918107>>37918077>>37918114Adding my concensus>>37918120oh damn
>>37918120A little early maybe to start rolling but... Kinda perfect...
>>37918120Linking this to >>37917789We just got a crit success on formalizing necromancers and using them to reincarnate her. Fuck. Yes.
>>37918120I don't know. I don't think it'd be right somehow.
>>37918167How? She's the demigod of resurrection.
>>37917789Aaaaaaannndddd with that It's time to call it a night.The thread has been archived, so please go vote: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html>>37918027>Hold on, hold on. What if she just did something really bad? What if she and the hydra mother conned us?When we found Mycea she had been left for dead; a dried out husk of a god that had been physically and mentally abused for possibly centuries at the behest of a more advanced civilization that simply did not respect her beyond her functional use as a tool. Mycea was saved by you, Mycea was nursed back to health by you, Mycea who had spent a life of abuse, neglect, and manipulation was treated to an insurmountable amount of respect she had never once experienced before in her long, long, life- and you did it without a moments notice and asked for nothing in return.Mycea lived as she died; for other people, but she at the very least died for the people who actually cared about her. If there were ever a being or faction that truly and completely loved your people- it was Mycea. I hope everyone had a good time and that my story telling was of the standard that you've come to expect and return to- OH. >>37918120
>>37918167Not trying to resurrect her, but to help guide and assist a natural part of her powers and portfolio. She is a Demi-goddess of rebirth. We have a crit success. The gods themselves have declared this to be the course we should take.
>>37918222Fuck... I lost my power of love gif...
God damn. I wish we'd have just shot Akalade at the damn moon and been done with it now.
>>37918222W-we can do it, right OP?We can reincarnate her, right?
>>37918222But what about the Hydra Mother? What's her reaction to this? Is she going to be forthcoming with that reward? Were we just duped into sacrificing Mycea?
>>37918222I almost didn't put in dice+1d20... I almost waited to confirm with everyone if we should do that...
>>37918273>>37918222>>37918120Lets do it no matter how fucking long it takes.Imaged Mycea alive again years later once we had the power to bring her back. Like fucking hell we're gonna forget about her or not try
>>37918222>hope everyone had a good time and that my story telling was of the standard that you've come to expectAbsolutely, OP.>and return to- OH. >>37918120AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>37918222Omg. Please tell me we can qctually do it. We still have her spore too dom't we?
>>37918345I'm wondering if those spores will lead to a race of dryads or a fungal race based off of her.Maybe she can't reincarnate like the Hydra Mother and instead releases spores that will grow into her descendants.
>>37918313Heck... If we hadn't asked her about what necromancy actually was... If we had thought it was normal dnd necromancy... This was a perfect storm. We will not allow her to end like this.
>>37918392I would rather this honestly.
>>37918392I mean the one she gave us to give to Akalade.
Is it ok if I imaged the Hydramother getting Jealous?>"Oh sure when I need to be brought back to life I need to wait centuries. But when she needs it you fuckers pullout all the stops and get it done sooooo quickly."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXWI6ISkzlIThread theme.RIP Mycea
>>37918392Why not both given that mat 20?I'm on an iPad of I'd post the why not both gif.
>>37918438The one that can bring life to continents.
>>37918464>>37918438And I meant the spores that she coated the land surrounding her city with. The pollen or spores or whatever they were.
>>37918438That's meant to save a dying world. She'd be seriously disappointed if we used it to bring her back.
>>37918543Nat 20. No reason to use that.
>>37917789>>37918120... I can just imagine the Cyclops that just witnessed this."No. No. This is not Right. We Will Fix This."
>>37918594The first true necromancers of the cyclops
>>37918222https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbp52Z9jRg0As Mysterious as the dark side of the moon.It's time for Hard work cyclopses, we got a new mega project for ya!
>>37918663They will fucking finally stop playing soccor
So did anyone else notice that she BLED MANA when giving birth?
>>37918682Yessss... Honestly not that surprising....
>>37918682yes, seeing as plants feed on sunlight It made sense.
>>37918682I'm just curious what's going to grow from that spore pod she shot at the progenitor after it's done consuming him.
>>37917789The spores continue to rain down as Mycea's humanoid body rests lifelessly within the blanket her attendants had wrapped her in. The gentle falling blanket of snowing spores seem to muffle out the collective soft weeping of Mycea's beloved followers, friends, and acquaintances. The beauty she's left behind in the form of so many flowering plants and fungal growth pale in comparison to the ugly and lonely sadness she has left behind in so many hearts. People from all over Mycea's Grove bring about offerings: Alcohol, flowers, baked goods, sweets, and reminisce about personal experiences they had with her and the constantly humility she displayed as becoming of a "proper lady" as she was so fond of saying. Eventually the latest reincarnation of the Hydra Mother comes to pay her respects; now at the count of 4 maiden heads- each as buxom as the other. She is almost unbearably curt as her maidens speak one after another, "So, 'it' kicked the bucket, eh? You know babies- I wouldn't have done that if I were in that thing's position." A number of people immediately draw offense and she backs off slightly, "Calm down, sweeties. I don't see what you're getting all upset about >I< was dead and patient enough to be brought back- look at this, look at ME." All four of her maidens spread their arms. "It'll be back. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow- maybe not even in the span of your lives, but it'll be back." The Hydra mother does however give some passing advice, "I know what you're thinking and I advise against it; you can't rush reincarnation darlings. If you really miss that 'thing' so bad though, there is that pod it gave you. Oh my, but that was for Akalade's world wasn't it?" The Hydra mother slowly slithers off- gleefuly cackling to herself, satisfied with the moral ambiguity she has planted within your people.
>>3791877610/10 I'm mad.We can wait, but the Hydra Mother's taunt and insults should have consequences. I'm sure the Manticore tribe won't appreciate their favorite demi-god being referred to as "it".
>>37918776...A bitch though she may be, she does have a point. Let's not rush reincarnation. Instead, just focus on getting Akalade's pod back to his world and giving Mycea her funeral rites. We should give her time, she'll eventually be back.
>>37918776>If you really miss that 'thing' so bad though, there is that pod it gave you. Oh my, but that was for Akalade's world wasn't it?Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Knew it. Why is Hydramother such a big fan of Faustian bargains. The seed of doubt is planted.
>>37918776I'm almost tempted to say we should see if she can pull that off twice...
>>37918776Aaaaaaah fuck we'll wait.And we will through the biggest mother fucking party when she gets back.For now make her grove the most beautiful fucking place in the world ready for when she gets back.Also goddamnit Hydramother you can be kinda of a cunt, a hot cunt but still
>>37918876>make moves to annex gorgon empire>let Hydra Mother stew in a gilded cage for a few milleniaAgain, there should be consequences.
Well I think we can safely say Mycea is fully inducted into our pantheon now.
>>37918776No. We won't tarnish her memory with such selfishness.We will however remember her. Her city will become the home of a place of learning and study. The necromancers will maintain it for her eventual return.The alchemists will study this place and the children she left behind. Even in death she will heal us and protect us.The Druids will study the threat she gave her life to undo. We will guard against similar threats and the magic of others with their knowledge and elderitch mastery.Finally, the Theologians will study the stars here. Ever vigilant for signs of Mycea'si's rebirth or the return of the forces kin to that which she slew.And that fucker Akalade will be made to understand -exactly- what we gave up to keep or word. And finally? The demonologists will fucking own up to what they are doing and we will decide from there. Or so help me, I'll tear out their eyes myself.
>>37918914Nah. We shouldn't stoop to her level. But god damn what a bitch.
>>37918892we've been nice to the hydra mother,and she has been nice to us in the past.But lets face it... She ultimately favors the gorgons, and herself, more than us. Not that is inherently bad (yet).
>>37918776Man fuck her, she doesn't even know half the shit we're capable of. I still say we go through with it as a mega project, at the best we bring her back sooner, at the leaste we make her a bitching new alter/ home.
>>37918934Lets do all of this
>>37918959She still owes us a promised reward though.
>>37918862Agreed. Bitch is going to pay. I don't think a good few Gordon's are going to be happy about her behavior considering what they fucking owe us.
>>37918949you'd think she'd be grateful since its because of us she is as "incarnated" as she is.
>>37918979wonder what it would be?Land?Magic?Technology?True Hybrids?
>>37918959I agree on the megaproject. No using the seed. Seed goes to who it was intended for.
>>37918934>Finally, the Theologians will study the stars here.The nearby mountains would be a good place for an observatory.I would also argue we establish some tourist attractions. Gardens, shrines, maybe a very nice bath complex heated by magic. Travelers and scholars would spend dosh there and the town would be able to fun its academies and research.
>>37918985>>37918990>>37918979It's just her nature, I wouldn't blame her for it.Besides we do owe her a solid for all those children after the Parrot Debacle, especially the cyclopian touched ones
>>37919002I was really hoping for true hybrids after this.
>>37919011I think we know our next megaproject.
>>37919022>It's just her natureif it is her nature, then her nature is bad.
Alright for reals this time you guys; that's a wrap for this session. The Resurrection of Mycea will into itself be a long and gradual process full of adventure, difficult choices, and painful memory's as you slowly bring her back.But for now we've got to call it a night and save our energy for next weeks session: Mycea's plan will gradually and slowly take action and I can guarantee you'll start to see the results of it next session and we've still got an entire civilization and the whole world left to explore. Hope, Anons. Hope for what the future brings.
>>37919022But she owes us for saving her people and doing away with the progenitor.
>>37919047This.Hydra Mother needs a lesson in humility. Obviously military actions is out of the question, but we can still put the Gorgon Empire in a tight spot by supporting the tribes over the empire.
>>37919050so next time Hydramother will give us our reward? Will we find out what happened with the Old God? Is there gonna be bad blood with the Merfolks?
>>37919050Gotcha. Thanks for the roller coaster ride of emotions, OP. A pleasure, as always.
>>37919050Goodnight! This is the one quest I look forward to all week!
>>37919050We'll deal.But we're going to get our four approved cults organized, and then we're going to nail the demonologists hides to the wall if they refuse to explain themselves and listen to reason. We will not disrespect her memory by consorting with beings who caused her such harm.
>>37919071Maybe we can give lenses to the Manticores. Or hell even the dinosaurs and the Spiders.
>>37919071Mycea wouldn't want us to turn on them just because of their callous god. We should just carry on being the same gentle creatures that rescued her.
>>37919102We should probably unite the tribes into a confederation, too. A united front against the Empire is what is needed.In the end our goal should be a reunified Gorgon state, but Hydra Mother needs to learn to not be such a huge bitch.
>>37919138Agreed. But we can make it clear that we're unhappy without actually hurting them.
>>37919142uniting the tribes wouldn't be too bad. They left mostly because they didn't dig the empress right? The empress is the Hydra Mother. yeah makes sense.I'd rather the cyclopses make no attempts themselves (unless absolutely needed).
>>37919142Well that's one thing, I just don't think we should be all BLOOD FEUD about it though. Mycea wouldn't want that, considering how she and the hydra mother worked together. They're probably friends.Who knows? maybe being coy is how she deals with grief. Conceal don't feel and all that
>>37919050You taking questions OP? is the thread archived?Are we waiting until next week?
>>37919169This.Use diplomatic means to make Hydra less of a cunt. Really, if we just leave the Hydra Mother alone to keep being a bitch, she'll never learn her lesson and will keep ruling the Gorgons as she always has, which never worked to begin with.
>>37919142So we turn Mycea's city into a center of magical study, we nip the demonologists in the bud, we unite the tribes below us into a confederation, and we get mother hydra to at least apologize for being a bitch at Mycea's own funeral.All in favor of formalizing each branch of magic into it's own temple? say Aye.>Aye
>>37919202>You taking questions OP?OH, SORRY.YES. Yes, by all means if you guys have questions go ahead and ask- so long as they aren't obviously spoilery.
>>37919218Necromancy temple is obviously dedicated to Auntie Mycea.
>>37919218well actually we don't really know how the hydra mother ruled before the elves showed up.I'm not even sure if she ruled directly or if she worked through priestesses or what.Are the gorgons happy with her taking control?
>>37919228How do people refer to each other in cyclopean society without proper names?
>>37919228So when the Hydra Mother, was still "dead" rather than "Mid Reincarnation" she communicated through the stars and constellations.Is that the standard modus opperandi for all "dead gods"? If that question is too spoilery, maybe i can rephrase it to "So was the Hydra Mother in the sky thousands of years ago the same thats now physically walking about on the world now?"
>>37919228What have the Dinosaur, Spider, and Manticore tribes been up to during this thread?
>>37919228What have relations with the merfolk been like during this whole period?
>>37919271Are you suggesting that Mycea might be in the stars while she regenerates? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swIcX57vYDI
>>37919228How have things been in the empire since the hydra mother took direct control as empress?
>>37919314If so.. Necromancers occasionally study the stars... They might be able to find her!
>>37919303Likely not good. and probably gonna get worse considering we just killed their god. Or well, Mycea/Hydra-Mother killed their god and we are accessories to it. I sincerely hope this is the case. We need some drama. Parrats were too innocent and also our fault, and the Elves left us before a proper confrontation (either philosophically or militarily).
>>37919398we never found out what exactly happened to the elves did we?Just that they wanted to go back to the moon and then the deep one did SOMETHING
>>37919279we should make the city of Mycea's the seat of governance. A senate for the confederation. Invite every race except met people to it... Unless the merpeople are all 'fuck yeah! The slaver God is dead!' Or something.
>>37919424... were there merfolk before the elves dissappeared? Or did they only show up after? Is being merfolky like being assimilated by the Deep Eye?
>>37919424I'm a little confused about mycea herself exactly- why were the elves using her as a ship? how? Do the elves on the moon no longer use them? Why didn't the elves on the moon go and get the ones here? Did they know they were even here?So many questions....
>>37919398I don't feel the need for any confrontations. If they happen okay, but it's nothing I want. You can go to any other civ to play a warfarring race.
>>37919462there were merfolk before the elves disappeared
>>37919260>How do people refer to each other in cyclopean society without proper names?They refer to people on the basis of familiarity, I.E: everyone you don't know is obviously anonymous and so forth, but as you grow to know someone you develop a personal identity or basis of reference between you and that person. >>37919271>Is that the standard modus opperandi for all "dead gods"? It's standard communication for all dead beings. The stars are a medium for ancients and ancestors, anon. A black abyss, defined and alight by the endless innumerable mass of individual souls that make up it.>>37919279They've been mostly chilling out and expanding their territories and making their own way in the world independent of one another. The Manticore tribe has almost entirely begun to dwell in Mycea's grove and they're probably just as crushed as we are with her death- they were pretty tight.>>37919315Pretty good to be honest: Slavery hasn't come back, their cities are cleaner, people are happier, there's less inbreeding on average, and she's investing a slow and gradual revival of their true culture and an overall increase in her entire species being born SMOKIN' HOT. The Hydra Mother is honestly.. just kind of a bitch; also Mycea is technically a Hermaphrodite since she's a fungus.>>37919303Don't worry, we'll get into that next session.
>>37919471I don't like "war" either. But frankly I crave the confrontation just for the opportunities it presents.I remember when we found out elves "Existed" and we were freaking out about all the possibilities, like how they were advanced ahead of us and stuff. The merfolk getting "anti-cyclopean" might spur us into making some interesting decisions. Be it a war, or a nation to compete against in terms of Commerce, culture, and technology.
>>37919521Still don't know why the Mers have been hoarding metals
>>37919505>It's standard communication for all dead beings. The stars are a medium for ancients and ancestors, anon. >A black abyss, defined and alight by the endless innumerable mass of individual souls that make up it.>The Stars are the AfterlifeIs someone gonna pick up that phone? Cause I totally CALLED IT.
>>37919505>an overall increase in her entire species being born SMOKIN' HOTkek
>>37919521I wonder if we can develop our bells to resonate underwater like a sonar. Either for sonar imaging or for combat purposes.
>>37919537well so far it's been only iron which honestly isn't that useful in the long runWe never got around to smelting bronze or other more durable metals that would be able to survive in saltwater for extended periods of time
>>37919505Alright. Next thread we begin megaproject ins the FUCK out of the city of Mycea. We build her temple, home of the necromancers. The theologian's orrery needs to be there as well. The Druidic Fortress Vault where they shall guard us against the unknowable, and the Alchemist's gardens, cultivating Mycea's blossoms for medicine and SCIENCE! finally, the Senate building, where representatives of each race can meet and discuss things.Most importantly? No violence within the city. And we need to nail the Demonologists to the wall and find out what they think they'll get from the beings who so obviously traumatized Mycea worse than the fucking elves.We also nail the demonologists... One wa
>>37919521Again, I don't want that. I'm very impressed at how we've managed to make this race so distinctly peaceful and non-confrontational in comparison to how races usually develop in civ threads. I'd like to try to keep us that way.
>>37919604I propose the Theologians along with the Necromancers and Astronomers build a great observatory in the nearby mountains, now that we have lens technology we could build telescopes
>>37919617we developed walls, befriended gorgons, and found metals when we were worried about elves.
>>37919617Of any race that we may go to "war" with it might be the ant-people if they try to move en masse to our lands
>>37919661And we built the Arcanum and befriended Mycea when we had no one to fear.
>>37919705Still proud that I was the one who suggest a Wonder in the first place that inspired everyone to make the Arcanum. Was just a silly idea i had before I jumped the thread to go to bed
>>37919617I think if the cyclops ever go to war. We never fight to conquer territory. We fight to drive the enemy back and nothing more.
You know I kinda feel sorry for the first people that Force our Cyclops to go to war. Because at that point you would be threatening all that they love. And the love of a Cyclops runs Deep
>>37919811I'd expect as much. With as powerful as our magic is I'd expect any kind of fight with most other civs to be over pretty quickly too. But hopefully we won't have to find out anytime soon.
>>37919811I can see it now.>The enemy is retreating>The soldiers are screaming filled with terror>The massive cyclopes are charging, chanting hymns>Bells are calling thunder from the sky, and magma from the earth>Flying pots are reaking havoc on the poor ground bound plebeians>Suddenly all the cyclopes stop.>Every single one.>No more fire and earth quakes, no more magma or lighting>Just a perfect halt>They sort meander around a bit then start going home>One soldier takes a step forward, more out of confusion then anything else.>Suddenly the cyclops charge starts right back up>Invading army marks the location, never to be crossed again
>>37919772Credit where it's due, it's a cool wonder. Hopefully we can get another up in the next couple of threads.
>>37919705I still can't believe I got a nat fucking 20 to help resurrect Mycea... In my first thread even!Also. Guys. Just had a thought. We have hard choices in the future... But I'm willing to bet the only way to bring back Mycea properly, with no catches, no bad things, is to do this like the quest for the holy grail. Even when we are sure that what we are doing will only push our goal back further, as long as it is the morally right decision... It will lead us to our goal.
>>37919934I hope for 5 wonders.The temple of Mycea, home of the necromancers. The Grand Orrery, home of the Theologians. The Fungal Librarium, home of the Alchemists, and the Vault-Fortress of the Druids.
>>37920005That could be. Frankly, I hope it's not too difficult to do because it'd really suck to fuck this up and we're still going to have other hardships to deal with at the same time.
>>37920036I don't know. I liked the idea of a magical university where they all can study and support each other.
>>37920005I'm sorta seeing it as one of the God Quests from the Kings of Dragons Pass. Certain tasks and trials must be complete in a very specific way.
Btw, we should make Mycea's death day a national day of mourning and remembrance.
>>37920151That could work too... Maybe all combined into a single temple to Mycea?Contains the vaults of the Druids, the gardens of the necromancers, the observatories if the theologians, the labs of the alchemists, the senate room, and Mycea's resting place?
>>379201516th Wonder: The University
>>37920195The Mycean University
>>37920195Still think a Temple of Mycea would be more appropriate. A place dedicated to keeping her remains safe until she can be reborn, while also functioning as a useful place for the various occult temples that each take up a wing of Mycea's temple. Her tomb is I. Her old chambers at the center. The senate directly above or below that chamber.
>>37915516Ghisa is liberal bullshit, There's no tribe that dies this and there has never been....It fits our fantasy gentle giants tho.
>>37920452Wish snopes would verify or deny it. But either way, it really is perfect for our cyclops.
besides our temple of Mycea we intend to build, the confederacy we need to build, and the demonologists we need to redeem... What else do we need to do? Expand the mines? Cultivate the jungles of the new colony? Refine the steel forging process? Make cyclone des invent the simple machines.
>>37920702We have alchemy now, we can process our own silver now.
>>37920702Can i... It's not the FUCKING right moment i know... BUT.Demonology, the Red World... These things seem to be capable of Scaring Gods to the point of Hysteria.Add to this the fact that, how can i put this?, we seem to have helped Mycaea in everything she ever wanted us to do without a question because she's an adorable fungal waifu.I can't help but ask myself what the SUN thinks of these Two things. He IS our main patron after all and we neglected Him for centuries.It was HIM that saved us from the Zyz, we should ask him permission before doing this kind of shit again and probably do penance.And we should develop demonology in secret, in case the needs arises. No more vague answers and gentle counsel we just go in with because fuck yeah Mycaea told us to. We all love her, but we can't ho on like this if we don't want the Sun to fry us with solar flares One of these days.
>>37920702We also need to get the thing to our elf friend. And let him know that we are choosing to do what us right, over what would ease the pain I our hearts.
>>37920879Fine. We contact the sun, find out his will on the demonology. But we stop it for the time being. We find out why it is being studied, and we decide after consulting our patron.
>>37921133I sorta feel that if the sunwas really pissed at us... He'd have made that clear earlier ehn?
are we archived? And when will the paste in be updated?
>>37921179>>37920879Agreed. We have forgotten the sun for too long.
>>37921379Anyone else think he's gonna be pissed off?
>>37921179You know how passive-aggressive parenting is. Perhaps he expects us to know what would Piss him off and avoid it on our own, else he boils in his hunger untill he leashs out.>>37921133Let's ask him about Mycaea's plans and what exactly it entails and if it pleases or displeases him.Also yeah the cultists should be detained for the time being. However if they were to be kept all together in the same hail that coincidentially has all they need to continue their research under heavy vigilance... That would still be detaining them in a sense wouldn't it?>>do we even have jails, come to think about it?
>>37920879>He IS our main patron after allHim and the stars. So we got ancestors and a big boisterous warlike god.>You know how passive-aggressive parenting is. Perhaps he expects us to know what would Piss him off and avoid it on our own, else he boils in his hunger untill he leashs out.True, but its sort of implied Sun was in on the "Kill the Deep Progenitor" plan. Considering Mycea was consulting various other gods. Worst comes to worst, he might not be cool with the other gods we worship (Stars, Moon, Hydra Mother, Cosmic Snake, Mycea) but he might've been game for the plan (maybe doubly so since it would've involved Mycea's death.)
we currently have the following kinds of magic:-theology, our natural form of hymnal and astrological magic.-Arcanistry: the art of creating magical devices. Currently and primarily derived from theology, but theoretically applicable to any other discipline.-necromancy: the magic of the cycle of birth, life, death, and rebirth. Communig with spirits of the dead, sickness control, rot and decay control.-Druidism: the most ancient form of magic, based from the original sources of life and creation, the elderitch horrors from before the dawn of life as we understand it.-alchemy: a process of manipulating the elements and material world through potions, unguents, oils, gasses, and similar. Is capable of refining valuable materials such as silver. Likely a different variation of Arcanistry.- demonology: specifics unknown, related to the red planet, the mention of which was enough to drive a goddes into a short term nervous breakdown from terror.
>>37921446Good points, good points.Let's just remember to ask next week and hope everything will be fine.
>>37921404>>37921446Payton God or no, we owe Mycea a debt. An enormous one. He isn't the only God we must appease even if he is our chief deity. The mother-hydra is our fertility goddess for example, even if we don't like her that much. Mycea is our goddess of rebirth and the harvest. We'll build her a temple in what will likely become the scholarly and agricultural center of our civilization.i think it's likely that he'll be fairly accepting of expanding our pantheon as long as he remains respected. also, is mycea our moon goddess?
>>37921492>>Payton God or no, we owe Mycea a debt. An enormous one.Here i must stop you.Mycaea's plan was her own: we didn't know anything about the deep one's plans or ideas, she opposed them and attacked him with heavy impact sexual violence by shooting her pod. Fine.We still only know what her and mother hydra said about him and his plans.So we don't owe anything to her per se, we just liked her a lot. Of anything she owed us a big deal because our explorers and "terraformers" if you will saved her life.You know to whom we owe our life? To the FUCKING Golden guy that calmed the zyzz, fed it some whale while IT was perched on his arm and convinced IT not to genocide us for taking his feathers.That would be the SUN.
>>37921575We owe them both. Massively. We build him an even bigger temple complex when we expand the mines. Give him an entire island.Her temple will go in her old city, which is perfectly placed to be the center of our coalition of species and tribes. It is the best location for our true capital. Not to mention the massive, blooming fungal forest is a fucking bread basket for us. Which reminds me, we MUST put down roots and fully claim her old territory before the gorgon empire and mother hydra does. We can share access to it, but it must primarily be OUR city
>>37921658Also, the sun is obviously owed more, make no mistake, that's why he's the center of our pantheon, but we already got other duties we follow after all. He can't hold it that much against us as long as he remains at the center of our religion, which is unlikely to change.
>>37921658This is a compromise i can get behind.
>>37921575Just pointing this out, but I think we kind do owe her a debt since she saved the world from eventually being eaten by wannabe-Cthulhu, and gave her life to do so, when apparently she could have just screwed us over instead and survived.She was our friend. More than just our God. We saved her life, she saved ours. You don't keep track of debt once you make that exchange. You're true friends at that point.
>>37921770More or less what i meant with>>So we don't owe anything to her per se, we just liked her a lot.
>>37921839Well she is a physical manifestation of the moon? And we like her tons and bunches.So she pretty much completes our astral pantheon. Especially if we consider the Mother Hydra to represent the earth itself being a fertility deity.Also, interesting anatomical question. Does the mother hydra have multiple sex organs? One for each torso? Or just one giant cloaca?
>>37922469>Does the mother hydra have multiple sex organs? One for each torso?Yes, one for each Torso.
>>37922469>>Well she is a physical manifestation of the moon? And we like her tons and bunches.More like a demigoddes related to the Moon's ecology goddess for what i understood. Or a Terminal of an huge biocomputer as Elves would say.Anyway yeah she's our civilization's waifu.