Previous Thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37592462/Our Current Stats: http://pastebin.com/iahm4JSj (Please have a look at them, but don't feel obligated to read it all in one sitting- use it as a guideline if you're drawing a blank or need some contextual information as I've essentially compiled every piece of information that's relevant to our civilization.)Last session we invested our full medical and botanical knowledge into successfully resuscitating and healing Mycea and her grove, we managed to negotiate a seemingly mutually beneficial economic plan that ended slavery in the Gorgon empire, we even managed to negotiate more peaceful interactions between the Dinosaur and Spider tribes, but we also had our first taste of PLAINS life, but it seems all together a harsh and dry land rife with conflict. Due to the current political environment a few new Developments have happened:>+/-Political reaffirmation: The Gorgon Empire grows in strength>The Gorgon empire has begun to dramatically grow in strength, size, and have dramatically expanded their territory. They've invested time and money into procuring and establishing a new permanent city under the massive "new growth" tree where once ancient Gorgon ruins lay and Gorgon Tribal squatters resided- this city has proven to be an incredible economic turning point for their empire as it acts as a massive trading hub for both your Cyclopes civilization and the various Gorgon Tribes. Like wise; The Royal brood of Empresses and High Priestess that have been birthed and hatched in recent years have consistently turned out Stronger, Larger, and more powerful- most likely due to the late Empresses breeding program.(Second post incoming, please be patient.)
>>37754446>+/- Economic Development: The Merfolk want Metal?>They very briefly came onto land. They didn't talk, the dry air seemed to bother them greatly, and they didn't appear comfortable or experienced walking upright- often oping out to walk on all fours when not in the presence of others. They came with abnormal and disturbing pieces of Bone and Coral Art work, they came with fish and kelp, and they even came with Ocarinas- all these things they traded for Metal Tools and Metal Weapons.>+/- Environmental Development: Local Extinction of the Boiling Lizard>Despite it's impressive and intimidating size and it's name-sake ability to puff out it's throat and expel a torrent of hot boiling water- these magnificent qualities and abilities were not enough to save it from disappearing into the analogs of history. Once native to your home island- it dwelled upon the plains you graze livestock on and nested within the hot volcanic rocks you now quarry for housing and use for iron production. It may still exist within the Southern continent (where humid weather and geothermal activity is optimal), but within your own lands it only exists as a faint echo of a more primitive time. You know how it goes from here!Roll 3 Actions: 2 actions, 1 IdeaActions are d20, Ideas are d100.
Rolled 87 (1d100)>>37754536Develop the idea of riding mammoths
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>37754536Action: work on carpentry
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>37754536Develop mining equipment.
Rolled 8 (1d20)Action: work on animal husbandry
Rolled 25 (1d100)Idea: follow gorgon tribes and make a breeding program of our own.
Rolled 18 (1d20)>>37754536I'm up for taking that deal with the merfolk.Action: Let's dramatically improve the megolith's we've set up for Mycea
Rolled 29 (1d100)>>37754536Ergonomics
Rolled 47 (1d100)>>37754917supporting
Rolled 65 (1d100)>>37754446Idea: From last thread let's take a cutting from Mycea and plant it within the heart of the Arcanum so she can visit our city.
Rolled 97 (1d100)>>37754972no way. we don't want her meeting the elf there just yet.accept the merfolk deal, and >>37754617
Rolled 22 (1d100)>>37754917supportan
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>37754674seconded
Rolled 9 (1d100)>>37754536Do we have any answer or contact from manticores. I kind of like those death fetishists, and i hope they aren't too steamed about us not giving them lenses... How did the lens thing go?Otherwise an idea, Develop plains protection clothing, we need to figure out some lighter fabrics and more coverage if we are to venture further into the plains. wrapping up silk cloth around us to protect us from the sun, but also not to stifle us.
9 posters and 13 votes? someone's samefagging.hint: it's >>37755114 >>37754953 >>37754917
Rolled 13 (1d20)establish a colony at the mountain pass to the plains. either that or on one of the plain's coasts. just a colony somewhere in the plains that we can access easily.
Rolled 61 (1d100)>>37755184I put out a idea and an action, and I voted to support ergonomics.There's no rule against that.
>>37754617>Develop the idea of riding mammoths>Roll 87/100>High End Success.In between your infrequent trips to the plains over the mountains you've become a little more familiar with the wildlife there and the one that stands out the most to you is the Mammoth.The Mammoth is without question the largest creature you have ever seen... -on land- It towers above even the tallest of your kind, every step it takes is silent, but lands with such weight it leaves an indentation in the ground, and it's sweeping tusks are so massive they might be as heavy as one of your own Elephants. It is a great, hairless, gray, sweating, mass of muscle and animal. No one questions that one could ride it; the problem is it doesn't want you to ride it. The only thing the beast seems to tolerate is the presence of a constant cloud of numerous birds and small flying reptiles that flock around it and keep away the flies and parasites.
>>37755301We might have to domesticate them first...
Rolled 42 (1d100)>>37755301invent steel. we're still working with shitty iron.
>>37755329Seems like it.Damn we tried to run before we learned how to walk... or was it walk before we learned to crawl.It shouldn't be this hard to RIDE things though...
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>37755301action: domesticate the mammoths
>>37754972Too dangerous. I'm afraid if the elf finds her he will want to take her with him.
>>37755579Wait until we can roll again or it won't count.
>>37754632>Action: work on carpentry>Roll 12/20>Above Average Success +Gorgon InfluenceYou don't have much in the way of Furniture or personal effects- maybe some tools, some dishware, a couple of pots and personal sets of clothing and some shoes... But furniture? Furniture has yet to catch on; the most advanced form of furniture would have to be Tables, Shelves, or large cold stones shaped and brought in to sit on.This is slowly starting to change though since your closest neighbor; The gorgon empire DOES in fact have furniture and you take examples from them making your own: Bamboo mats, Beds on bamboo frames with woven pillows and sheets all stuffed with soft feathery down... Interestingly enough you've also managed to develop Bamboo Tables, Chairs, and other replicas of previously stone furniture.>+Furniture Developed>Furniture seems like a no brainer, but it does actually require skill and patience to make and it doesn't help that your people are so LARGE and HEAVY. Small personal items and effects though are becoming common since they make life just a little more pleasant; but beyond mats, pillows, and blankets- "traditional" furniture doesn't remain that popular.
>>37755678Maybe we can develop super fluffy futons.
>>37755726I'm half wondering if we'll develop giant bowl chairs.
Rolled 2 (1d100)>>37755678we still didn't do much exploring. get the navy to map the coastline of the mainland.
>>37755834sssoooosh... its okay. just wait till op says roll and we'll roll.
Shouldn't we introduce Akalade to Mycea and act as mediators so it wouldn't be awkward?
We have domesticated raptors, right? Could we breed them for fluffy feathers? They are basically giant chickens.We should do a general domestication roll to specialize animals we already have.
So are we accepting the merfolf deal?
>>37754674>Develop mining equipment.>Roll 16/20>High end Success. +Gorgon Influence +Geomancy -Racial aversion to HARD workMining is hard. Mining is in fact VERY hard: it requires laborious effort, sometimes you have to go underground, it's hot, it's dirty, it's tiring and awful work and frankly your people don't much care for it. Which is ironic due to their affinity for working with Metal.At any rate: Currently Geomancy and Hydromancy have been the only acceptable methods to collect metals. large chunks of Iron deep beneath the earth can be called forth through the use of even rudimentary Hymns and Gold can be siphoned from rivers or blasted away from hillsides and sediments using water....Access to Silver and precious Gems though remain restricted to physical labor and within the Gorgon Empire.... Well, it did.Your people have been paying careful attention to the industrial methods of the Gorgons; though they are at times cruel and a little unkind you cannot deny the end results: Women sent with pointed axes, Helmets, oil fed lanterns, dive into muddy holes and hill sides to extract all manner of metal and gems. Silver however remains very valuable as it must be seperated and processed using Alchemy and dangerous chemicals- a process that remains oblivious to your people.>+Primitive Mining Equipment Developed>Though you lack the sophistication; you DO have a gross proximity of the tools and knowledge necessary to mine for Iron and precious gems. TRUE mining however remains extremely unpopular, Silver extraction is beyond your people and for the most part most "mundane" metal extraction is gained through strip mining the faces of cliffs or the mainland mountain sides.
>>37755970I donn't think they should meet yet. Maybe we could tell her about him and what he's here to do though. But I'd like to see us have a few more interactions with her before any decision has to be made on this whole situation.
>>37756072I think we got the Fancy Royal Moths last time we tried a roll like that. I agree, we need raptor pets. Messager Raptors
>>37756086we've had... mixed realations with merfolk. I mean we've been pretty chill for the last couple of centuries. But our first encounter with them involved us dropping Peace-Monoliths to the ocean, and getting an angry letter back. We also incurred the wroth of the "Deep Eye" once, but again we've since ironed that out. Recently they've been playing the role of this "Informed" race, they're aware of things we aren't, they gave us Akalade, and told us what to do with him, and its been working out. There's something... uncomfortable about our peaceful relationship, especially since we don't know why they want metal.
>>37756129I think we'd all like to have different kinds of raptors, moths, elephants, etc to preform different roles.
>>37756096here's a thought. we manipulate the elements by dancing. that's pretty similar to Avatar. and their earthbenders can develop earthsense as a subset. I'm thinking, if we can do that ourselves and use it to detect the metal veins underground, we'd be pretty much rolling in bitches.
Rolled 1 (1d20)>>37756096>use hydromancy + metal and bamboo pipes to create a hydro-magitech strip mine
>>37756121True, after all Mycea was terribly abused by elves for her resources and Akalade wants to restore his planet by most likely using her. And I'm not sure if we told Akalade to be nice to her s/he would listen, Akalade does really want to revive his/hers planet.
>>37756274Do not roll until rolls are called for.
>>37754911>>37755105>>37756086>The Merfolk dealThe Merfolk deal isn't really a "deal". They're mostly only doing it on a personal/discreet level in the sense that they've been awkwardly crawling onto land in an effort to acquire as much metal as possible while scurrying back into the ocean. >>37755137>Do we have any answer or contact from manticores. I kind of like those death fetishists, and i hope they aren't too steamed about us not giving them lenses... How did the lens thing go?We eventually sort of agreed that no one should have access to the Lens: The lens will be eventually leaked out though since you can't keep it forever; but at the time all Gorgons remain placated since "well at least no one gets it." >What About the Manticore TribeThe Manticore tribe is currently VERY interested in Mycea- they are perhaps a little TOO interested in Mycea.You guys may roll for new Actions now.Oh, and remember: just "talking" to characters/factions/people doesn't require a roll.
Rolled 64 (1d100)>>37756293Ergonomics
>>37756274YOU AM PLAY GODS
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>37756293Domesticate Mammoths.Maybe work on our already domesticated animals too. Like fluffy pillow raptors or better tasting elephants.
>>37756293>they've been awkwardly crawling onto land in an effort to acquire as much metal as possible while scurrying back into the ocean.So they're ... stealing? or trying to "Mine" things themselves?
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>37756293Develope magical tools to make mining (and other work) easier.
Rolled 21 (1d100)>>37756293Implement color coding.
>>37756340>>37756332Okay.>>37756307What does this even fucking mean? Voting against.
Rolled 94 (1d100)>>37756293Idea: research more of pre-elven contact gorgon cultures, help spread these to the empire and tribes. Maybe by showing them that they all have common ancestry they'll work together and be friendlier
>>37756340CYCLOPEAN INDUSTRY BEST IN WORLD!
Rolled 64 (1d100)>>37756293Idea: Using arches and geomancy think of way to keep improving the sepant bridge for travel
Rolled 53 (1d100)>>37756293Rolling for dem breeding programs.
>>37756358Ergonomics means designing things so that they're easier to use. An ergonomically designed chair would be easier to sit in for example
>>37756340so much support. all of my support.
>>37756293Introduce our elf friend to dinosaur and spider tribe.He is an anthropologist, right?
Rolled 76 (1d100)>>37756293Develop desert/plains clothing. Stuff that covers all and protects you from the suns rays. Clothes that are breathable. If we are to continue into the plains we need to cover up.
Rolled 18 (1d20)>>37756340Supporting that roll>>37756293Fund a joint colony of Cyclopes Gorgons and southerners to the grasslands
Rolled 5 (1d100)>>37756293Idea: attempt to set up a megolith to Air, but it is a shape that the wind will frow through to make music, like the ocarina
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>37756434>Fund a joint colony of Cyclopes Gorgons and southerners to the grasslandsSupporting. COLONIZE EVERYTHING
>>37756358Ergonomics is the "study of usage" basically. Something that didn't really develop until after industrial era.Basically making things comfortable or easy to use. A horizontal bar on a door you're meant to push is an ergonomic design, as it physically leads you to pushing the door.
>>37756358Ergonomics = designing shit to not cause you permanent damage on long run and also be comfy as fuck. Lot of the industry would fuck you up in few years because of unergonomic work enviroments
>>37756414need a drawfag to remove those eyebrows and give them all one eye
We really need to contact the Changelings in the grassland
>>37756452we really need to see if we can come into contact with the Changelings (or white humanoids) again, they seem pretty cool, ant people... seem creepy.
Rolled 19 (1d20)>>37756522If we befriend the Ant people they could be of great economic value. Imagine them helping build ever larger buildings, their hives mining the ores and stones for our lazy assesOk>>37756293Try to contact the Ants or Changelings
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>37756340supportan
>>37756484It actually existed long before that, but it wasn't until industrial era that it's value was reckognized. Earliest forms of ergonomics was a stone chair designed after a shape left in mud by a person who lied down on it.
>>37756564The changelings portrayed the ants as bad, from what I remember, but we should probably get both sides' view.
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>37756514sorry my bad
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>37756452Thirded
>>37756504Happy to oblige D. Oswald Heist.
>>3775671310/10 fucking perfectnow if only it didn't have that watermark
>>37756564my big problem with the ants is similar to the problem i have with the Merfolk and elves, they seem a touch... alien. What we've seen of the Antpeople, they disemboweled and carried a mammoth off, and tried to pry the gold and shiny bits off our monument.
>>37756761The changelings were the ones who vandalized our monument. They left pieces of antpeople all over the place.
>>37756814I say we should murder them all indiscriminately.
>>37756850Like the Parrats?You monster
>>37756814I thought it was the ants, if the scratches and battle was anything to suggest. Plus the fact the drawing there had "changlings" offering the gifts. >>37756850quiet you. >>37756750Yes. If Only.
>>37756332>Domestication and Animal Husbandry Roll>Roll 20/20>Complete and Total SuccessCurrently your livestock include: Banana Rats, Peccaries, Elephants, Triceratops, Raptors, Chickens, and Silk Moths and it's been this way for a while now.. but with time, cultural interaction, and breeding efforts they've become noticeably more different than their wild varieties. Rats, Chickens, Peccaries are all significantly fatter, more pot-bellied, and docile as they've always been kept at home in pens and are a constant for any household. Raptors have become significantly more obedient and have developed into a very fine hunting animal- responding to commands and perfectly comfortable perched on a hand or shoulder. Triceratops have seen the most variety though: muscular and well built breeds for physical labor and fatter more.. "simple" breeds for meat and eggs. Elephants however simply live a little TOO long and age a little TOO slowly to be develop diverse breeds.. but Domesticated elephants are as a rule of thumb; friendlier, possess MUCH thicker tusks, and produce more milk and more offspring. You've gone a little crazy with "fancy" Moths due to their popularity as pets: they display an absolute dazzling variety of colour, wing-shape, pattern, size, and have become uncharacteristically.. docile and responsive- they they even actively seek attention. >+Improved Animal Husbandry Achieved>Animal husbandry is no longer a mystery for your people: They know what sex does and they know how to single out and breed better or ideal physical qualities into animals. This has a number of potentially beneficial economic and food production benefits: increase egg, meat, milk, production as well as quality control.
>Cyclopean tools obsolete cheap labour>Gorgon empire becomes almost bankrupt>Late gorgon empress venerated for her foresight on saving the empire from complete economical collapse by abolishing slavery
>>37756904No domesticated mammoths?
>>37756938I think he's not done writing until he tells us to roll.
>>37756904Wonder if this means they understand the problems with inbreeding now? since they can see them arise from animal husbandry, some of the incest should start puttering out.
>>37756889I have the weirdest boner right now.
>>37757008Maybe. It was never a big problem though.
What are some more economic improvements we can develop? How can guilds be improved? Are bonds/stocks a good idea?
>>37757008>problems with inbreedingits fiiiiiine.
>>37756882Parrats were made up by cyclops in order to lure gorgons to be part of their military
>>37756889wonderfulsave'dhope OP uses in the future
Are moths going to be the new parrats?
>>37757038True, we never had concentrated breeding lines because we don't have prestigious families or royalty. But its best to avoid if possible, helps negative traits die out and keeps the population more healthy.>>37757069Administration, get a small tax going and you can use it to spend on projects or social care.But if in doubt, build infrastructure. E.g. postal service.
>>37757008Polygamous society that fucks anything. There really will never be enough generations of same family cyclopses that inbreeding becomes an issue
>>37757146even non-sapient creatures know not to fuck their siblings by instinct. most of them, anyway.
>>37757135No, as long as we don't try to give them advanced intelligence they should remain loveable and fluffy pets.
>>37757135Most likely no.....at least not yet.
>>37757069We don't have banking or standard currency. Our currency is not bound to anything tangible yet.
>>37757248So a banking guild?
>>37757248make it golden
>>37757181I don't think its siblings thats the problem (as thats just common sense and yes, instinct). It might be more cousin and nephew fucking that's the problem. I wish I had more historical products of incest than just Henri-Toulouse Lautrec, to reference for problems.
>>37757248Frankly its more stable as it is since the organic degeneration keeps inflation and rampant wealth accumulation at bay.The important thing in economy is that the money flows. Banks would not be a good fit.
>>37757290Gold doesn't have the same connotation of value. It's just a pretty decoration for cyclopes. They value things like food, labor and the products there of. That's why ivory rings are good because it takes skill to carve them
>>37757248>>37757265I don't think we really need to worry about currencyour main concerns should be improving the lives of our people with improving the lives of those around us as a comforting secondary goalmoney doesn't really do anything to help either of these things
>>37757265National bank. NEVER let the value of your currency be determined outside goverment.
I'm thinking we should improve our fashion. Develop buttons, belts, pockets, collars, sunhats, straps, ect...
is any of the civ quest even slightly related?
>>37757248we have Elephant Rings as our currency at the moment, which again isn't bad. It takes a while to harvest, can only be harvested once, and yeah decays after a while. Its primative but it works for us right now. >>37757290But we use gold for magic.
>>37757324I just want to get another golden age going so we can work on another wonder or new technological level.
>>37757325At that point its just the gov, which is fine, really we need to improve administration for our civ.
>>37757349that's fine but also doesn't require money
the level of cyclopean HNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG is killing me
>>37757336Doesn't really decay if it's properly handled. Afterall, dinosaur bones have lasted to our days.
>>37757371Mageocracy is good enough. We could toss some bureaucracy and constitutions in there and it's golden
>>37757403Dinosaur bones have been in solid rock for the vast majority of that time. Common use will wear them down, accidentally crushed, weather heat and cold exposure, all will take their toll. Even if its 50 years, at the rate they are generated its not a problem.Bright side is, its hard as hell if not impossible to counterfeit, and impossible to flood the market with as an economic warfare tool.
>>37757476A constitution is a good idea.Also, we could have separation of powers. Not necessarily into a president, congress, and supreme court; but certainly into something that suits cyclops culture.
>>37757476I am not saying changing the gov type, just improve its management ability so it does not have to all be arranged by the same person and tasks can be divided up and done more efficiently. >>37757517I think its not needed yet, since no one holds undisputed sway over the whole, and there are no political parties to speak of.
>>37757517We've suggested it before but we've suggested various councils before.Like we currently have one big LUMP Magocracy. But what if it was split between Mages who do research, and scholars that know history and law? what if there was a council of tradesmen/craftsmen to help overview economic things.
I say we keep our currency in such a way that it is actually usable in cyclopean life. This way, an inflation does also decrease the costs of certain products that are related to gold and ivory
>>37757517we probably should make some sort of governmental bodies to represent the craftsmen, the farmers, the miners, etc.
>>37756340>Develope magical tools to make mining (and other work) easier.>Roll 20/20>Complete and total success. +Akalade's influence, +Notes on Mycea, +Blind sage scrollsThey aren't often mentioned and they've always been on the side lines of history and documentation- mired by tragedy, accidents, and mysticism.. The Arcanists, The Enchanters, The few brave circles of Clyclopean men and women who work in discretion scanning over bamboo scrolls and taking quick peeks at second-hand copies of the scrolls of the Blind Sages.Your people don't possess a distinction between Science and Magic; as they don't even recognize or understand Science the way Modern man would. Arcanists have begun to blur this line. >+Technological Magical Development: Advanced Mediums: Bells, Tuning Fork, >Your current mediums are woefully simple and primitive; they do not possess the sophistication necessary for complicated and sufficiently advanced hymns that are necessary to entail and extrapolate on the universe and reality. Bells; forged with Gold and Iron often with a wooden handle- The Bell is an extremely powerful and resounding medium capable of producing powerful and long-lasting Hymns. The bell's qualities can also be changed depending on what material it's made of, what inscriptions it possesses, and how large it is- bigger bell, bigger noise. The Bell though has the potential to be weaponized.The tuning fork is an incredibly obscure and difficult tool to produce, but it's use and value cannot be denied. With a simple flick- it is capable of holding, purifying, aligning, and measuring the very tones that allow and carry forth the songs and hymns that make sung magic possible. It greatly increases the safety, accuracy, of singing powerful Hymns and facilitates Choruses. Part 2 incoming.
>>37757372I'm looking at that image but I just can't quite understand whats going on with the right ones hair. Are those supposed to be sideways bunny ears?
>>37757577So maybe keep the mageocracy, just divide it by occupation?
>>37757488Ehh, we really don't have any dating methods yet. How would we tell dinosaur bones from ground-down mammoth nones, for instance?
>>37757578>The Bell though has the potential to be weaponized.Fuck. Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT8xt6XDs_U
>>37757645ground down is useless, the ivory is carved with patterns and images. Old dinosaur bones will have a different texture, weight, density and strength compared to it. You don't need to date the stuff to know ivory and bone apart.
>>37757488It will, but not really an issue until a lifetime has passed and they can be ground into various products if they suffer wear and tear and also covered with protective substances that make them airtight.
>>37757624I just want each class of citizen to be able to voice their requests and complaints on an official level. In my head, the farmers have a council that govern the rules for farming and a head farming chancellor that directly talks to the mages or a sub-bureau if the mages prove unable to handle that much work. same with all the other major professions.
>>37757695he said mammoth bones, not mammoth ivory.
>>37757714That's exactly what we should do.Though, maybe we should also allow non-mage gorgon leaders to have their own deliberative body as well. A sort of lower legislature.
>>37757714Well, I think you basically just ask a mage and they'll pass it on and you dont need to worry about the bureaucracy
>>37757738And? the entire discussion was about how long ivory will last, and it will not last as long as fossilized bone. Powdered is not used as currency, they are carved rings or discs.>>37757700But at that point in time you can just say that all treated is not valid currency.
>>37757744I've actually been having that thought for the previous three threads. The gorgon population of our magocracy is pretty much as high as the cyclops population. it's pretty clear that we don't currently treat them as second-class citizens or anything, but it's still mean a lot to make that an official thing.
>>37757738Linked wrong post
>>37757811Aren't there gorgons on the sage council already?
>>37757811If there is no problem, don't try to fix it. We are still rolling dice here.
>>37757811Pretty sure there are gorgon priestesses that do sort of qualify as mageocracy members. All you really need is just enough magical talent to qualify
>>37757844There are, but they probably aren't anywhere as good as cyclops mages.
>>37757811Separating gorgon and cyclops legislatures might lead to different cultural identities. As long as there's not a big divide between our people I wouldn't suggest it.
>>37757912and if there's not, that just goes to say they're not ready yet
>>37757868Agreed. It's not as if our form of government has actually caused us any problems yet. Until it does I don't see why we should be trying to meddle with it.
OP, what are our people complaining about?Are there any current problems, besides the recession?
>>37757928I'm not saying they shouldn't have any rights, but even IRL where here is only one species in the governments, we need to write laws that only concern a portion of the population (men and women).
>>37757578>+Technological Magical Development: FIRST VEHICLE: Flying PotThe Flying pot is a seemingly awkward and benign looking device that belays it's true sophistication. A tall clay inscribed pot that is large and deep enough to fit perhaps 1 or 2 cyclops; possess four very strong "pronged" legs that allow it to comfortable stand upon the ground, it's most explicit feature though seems to be the complex inner-working of iron and gold piping that act as both it's frame and to the trained eye- explain it's true function. Using a slow and meticulously cooking, crafting, and molding process; the hollowed out Iron and Gold pipes are safely embedded within the walls of the pot, but even before that the pipes are enscribed and finished with a complex series of arching, ingrained, and convoluted inner-working and routing patterns. These pipes feed into the "cock-pit" of the pot.Essentially: One sings into the pipes and the Pot flies. Particularly lazy or people unfamiliar with Hymns may alternatively attach a Bell to the pipe and ring it. As long as a tune is being carried and echoed through the pipes- the pot is capable of clumsy and sluggish flight.The Flying pot is INCREDIBLY expensive to make, it is clumsy, it is slow- and it has obvious blatant problems/dangers attached to it's design- but that pales when compared to the amazement of getting to hover and scoot around. Even Akalade is impressed by this invention. ((If you need a real world example- it's a lot like a hot air balloon.))
>>37757714Too much specialization in an economy can lead to artificial barriers to entry in an industry, leading to artificial price increases. Flower shop license requirements come to mind.
>>37757917Well, maybe we should try to increase/effectivize magical education for our young, gorgon and cyclops? Formalized schools and such?
By the by, i imagine some of our chants are like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0PvZGVPiJU
>>37758025I was kind of imagining our chants more like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3C7H_xvwHsbut that might be my inner ten year old talking.
>>37758011>The Flying pot is INCREDIBLY expensive to make, it is clumsy, it is slow- and it has obvious blatant problems/dangers attached to it's design- but that pales when compared to the amazement of getting to hover and scoot around.That about sums up science really
>>37758006>any rightsI meant to write "the same rights".>>37758011if we can make a cheaper version that does nothing but hover just a bit off the floor while an elephant drags it around, we'll have the best caravans ever.
>>37758022I could get behind that idea. Some form of formal education is fairly overdue.
>>37758086That's along the lines of what I think they sound like. Although I think our voices would sound much higher pitched than that, given that our race is fairly androgenous for a fair portion of their lives.
>>37758011Oh man, just wait till we can make something that indefinitely play a Hymn, then we'll have REAL flying vehicles.
>>37758196Think its dependable, their size would naturally lower the voice of both genders.
>>37758222Music boxes will be a huge deal.
>>37758210we really need to invest in enchantment. we have really awesome magic. I'm betting we can also have pretty awesome magic devices.
>>37758252Oops, that was for >>37758210 naturally.
>>37758006Please don't push this forward. You're very close into wandering to thread derailing territory with that talk
>Take a ride to the Gorgon EmpireTime to spark a space race?
>>37758336Screw space race. I wanna land on Zizz!
>>37758364Sssssh, you'll anger it again!
>>37758364You know, our people have never written odyssys, such great epic sagas and stories are also brilliant for vastly expanding the vocabulary of the language as well as imparting cultural ideals like hard work, bravery and family values.
>>37758364>tfw we make another Weeping Sage-level powerful Cyclopes with our magical shenanigans. >He/she mind-melds with a Zizz
>>37758430we haven't quite got Epics and Odysseys in the sense of the ancient greeks, mostly because we haven't quite embroiled ourselves in a 'great war' that needed fighting, and telling stories about, no 'great conflict' to win and then tell a story about RETURNING from it. We have stories of great importance like that, but they're very much smaller scale or more peaceable. I think Journey To the Mainland was one, and how our people found the Gorgons would be part of it.
>>37758448>bad roll>mind meld fails>You have angered the Zizz.jpg
We can cross the deep ocean now. We can fly over it. What the hell would be over that ocean?
We should make more Heroes.
>>37758497We have spirits and monsters, the whole story of the zizz, the parrats, etc.You don't need a war to write about for an epic. Any adventure, well written enough, will do. Its just important to get the literacy tradition down.
>>37756370>Idea: research more of pre-elven contact gorgon cultures, help spread these to the empire and tribes.>Roll 94>Near complete Success +Tribal Gorgons, -Overshadowed by Gorgon EmpireThe Elves cultural impact on the Gorgon's has had deep seated ramifications on their civilization and the various splintered factions that have developed. Even the Tribes that exist today have primarily defined their culture and differences through a mixture of Elven stipulations and contemporary Cyclopean and Gorgon influences.. The New Gorgon empire though has been picking up the slack and redefining themselves from the holes left behind.You find your biggest and most interesting lead in some of the most Obscure places though.>The Manticore Tribe: Druidic NecromancyThe Manticore tribe has developed an almost obsessive fascination with Mycea and after study and observation it's revealed that they pay honor and homage to her in part due to her obscured ancient origins. Gorgons may have originally adapted some form of fungal druidism that was originally introduced by some being akin to Mycea but was later weaponized and corrupted into contemporary Necromancy. >Grown from the Bodies of GodsThe debate remains inconclusive, but there is evidence to support that the gorgons origin myth of the world being born and nurtured upon the accumulated death of countless gods; you've seen it before, the fossilized remains of truly and utterly titanic beings making up landmarks- The Snake bridge is a testament to that. Either way your people look at it- Gorgon History seem to be defined by a recognition of Death and the Fall of great things.
>>37758549Think about it, we can have a truely titanic epic by crossing the deep ocean in a Floating Pot. We need to make Floating pots in the shape of boats, it may coast lot's but imagine Airships in this time period
>>37758549Hell the entire story of Beowulf is about monster slaying and moral lesson. Something we have due to the spirits we have to hunt on a regular basis.
>>37758601or those rib-like things to the east, which we can't investigate because ZIZZ
>>37758722Zizz ignore the hell out of us unless we try contact or talk with them, and nothing they've done has been hostile except the time we stole their feathers. Frankly if you got shot and your hair stolen, you'de be pissed too.
>>37758661>>37758658I concur with the decision for a grand exploration of the world. Maybe our next wonder should be a floating craft of moderate size that will allow for long exploratory trips to bring back knowledge of the world to the Home
>>37758813then why haven't we looted the shit out of that place
>>37758850Because anons got scared after said episode and never went back. Im all for building an observatory and studying the zizz so it does not happen again and we learn more.
I feel like we should develop some kind of magical protections for Mycea. I feel like something bad is about to happen to her.
>>37758893So we should research ornithology?
>>37758936well we already have access to hawk sporting through the gorgons, shouldn't be too hard to establish.
>>37758893I barely know this quest. buuut it sounds like you guys were way back in ancient times doing weird things and ran off after basically scalping them alive.Maybe they cooled off? I dunno sounds like a long time has passed. maybe going with a peace offering could open the way.
Where are we on naval technology? The pastebin says we're still on longships. It may be easier to travel the Deep ocean with magical boats than magical pots.
>>37759026Zizz is a giant bird, so big that "Zizz" in means large, big, giant, etc. in our language.
>>37759123We should move to caravels soon.
>Develop further into the Hot, dry, grassland plains over the hills.>Roll 76/100>Roll 18/20>Odd High Rolls. +Overwhelming CensusYou've only been making short trips into the plains to refurbish, repair, and re-stock the monolith in hopes that something interesting would happen a long the lines of established contact.. but results continue to be a mix of defacement, attempts at looting, but every so often there are pieces of gold ?coins? left behind and an interesting variety of fruits and produce. The mining village on the other side of the mountain as well as the numerous farming villages that have sprouted up within Mycea's Grove though have facilitated more interest in exploration and travel into the plains and in time a few of your people have even come to appreciate it's foreign qualities and frequent in on a regular basis; wearing fine silk clothing to provide cool shade and cover from the unrelenting sun as well as numerous other small changes: leather shoes, drinking skins, and even some small poems or quips that bring forth refreshing cold water. >+Unique Political Opportunity: The Changeling wish to know your motives. The growing interest is mutual though and one day the inevitable happens, but it happens on beneficial terms: A small group of White beings upon the backs of their striped antler-less deer ?Quagga? ride up to meet some of your people tending to the Monolith. They do not speak, they hold still at a respectable and safe distance. Their entire bodies are hidden within white thin cloaks of fabric with only their deep black eyes and white faces peeking out. Each one in turn raises a featureless limb that morphs and molds like clay to form an arm and hand- revealing their chalky white flesh. Half of them are raising up unusual "Curved" blades made of some foreign metal. Half of them are raising up what you immediately recognize as some form of Flatbread. >Why have you come? For Blade or Bread?>Pick one.
>>37759026Zizz is basically a god-spirit beast of the air and sky. They literally control the element of air on this world and can force air elemental's to GTFO from miles away.Their size blots out the sun, these things eat sea monsters. An ancient hunter decided to try hunt one, shot it with an arrow and knocked off a grand total of 3 feathers. It didn't even realize what had happened until the council tried to chant to the feathers, alerting the bird to what had happened. Shit hit the fan (go read it, its quite good). We did get sail tech from it though so.
>>37759188Bread pls, let's not go to war.
>>37759188that's a no-brainer. bread.
>>37759203Well then. Thats my nightmare fuel for the night thank you. I am going to be terrorized by godking birds.Its gonna be the hitchcock movie all over again
>>37759188Hm. This seems obvious. I suppose we should go with Bread.
>>37759188Bread. We've not come to fight anything. Maybe try to ask them about the Ants
>>37759188>>Develop further into the Hot, dry, grassland plains over the hills.>>Roll 76/100>>Roll 18/20Um... I'll say blade to be contrarian.But also kind of hoping they're offering something to trade.Bread might imply we want to eat everything, like the Ant People. hope bread wins.
>>37759188>bread >Attempt to peacefully share fruit-booze with them
So what tech advancements are you hoping for? I'm thinking about improved communications.
>>37759188So these are literal CHANGElings. Clay shapeshifters
>>37759521I want to try for shamanism. Things like guardian spirits and spirit contracts/deals.
>>37759521sustainable hovertech. Would allow for faster transportation of goods and vehicles, less strain on beasts of burden
>>37759296>>37759285>>37759269>>37759262>>37759258After what feels like hours of tension- your people nervously point over to the beings holding the Bread and there is a brief pause before their limbs visibly slide and slink back into their cloaks a long with their blades and before long they are all holding up bread. You see the lower portion of their cloaks "bump" the sides of their steeds and they slowly and cautiously advanced towards your Monolith to join your people to continue interaction. There is a very brief attempt to open vocal communication; but it's made immediate that both sides has absolutely NO idea what the other is saying and there are no similarities what so ever between your two species languages. You are completely and utterly foreign to one another. The universal language though is food and drink and without second guessing one another you unanimously decide to share a meal together and hopefully some amount of information and intent could be shared: distinct variants of Fruit, Bread, Meat, and Drink are brought out from both of your respective cultures. The Changelings find your finely marbled Dinosaur meat delicious, savory, and in generous quantities, they are pleased by the variety of appetizing and flavorful mushrooms and fine your Fruit alcohol to be very pleasing. Your people as well delight in the sheer variety of both Flat and leavened breads the Changelings have brought, they delight in the unusual sour slightly tangy tasting yellow edible wheel, as well the accompanying rich stew of vegetables and roots- the drink they bring isn't to your taste.. some kind of sour, astringent, red fluid? But you drink it to be polite.You don't understand what they're saying, but they've also brought with them BOOKS; pictures and images printed on some kind of ?paper? They read aloud to you and show you the pictures: Cities, Beings, People, and Animals- of which you immediately recognize one being the Zizz.
>>37759521More advanced magic. Shielding, scrying, teleportation. Things like that.
>>37759666Were going to invent the hover train, were the boiler is used to turn fans and bellows to supply the air for the levitation tubes and the thrust to go forward. Wonder how loud it would be.
Rolled 14 (1d20)rolling not to soil our pants at the sight of the almighty Zizz
>>37759726awesome! We're not all dead. Can we roll actions/ideas btw?We should try to learn to communicate with the Changlings.
>>37759726Everyone is well fed, comfortable, and stories and crude drawings are being exchange as well as a lot of "hand charades". >Now would be an excellent time to try and attempt to ask questions or try and establish some diplomacy rolls or whatever you have on mind for this specific moment.>After which will conclude this brief encounter and move on.
>>37759893We need to try and ask about the Zizz, and the Ants.
>>37759893Ask their situation with the antpeople.
>>37759893I guess just be cordial? So long as they do not attack us and trade is opened it should be fine. Though i would still be weary, these people are obviously up to bloodshed if they so wish, with how they hijacked this monolith from the antfolk.
>>37759893Offer trade for CHEESE and BOOKS for Dino meat and unfertilized eggs.Ask about the Zizz and Ants
>>37759893>Try to ask them what some of their customs/favorite sports>Ask about the Zizz
>>37759893Lets ask them about where they live.Or what is up with the ants? Do they have "homes". What is the lay of the land?Do they want to hang out more often?
>>37759893see if they want to play soccer?or sing some camp songs?
try to get the basics of their language. yes, no, sword, bread, changeling, cyclops, Zizz, Parrat, and so forth.
>>37759893Try to keep them away from Mycea for now.
>>37760042Might be a thing to build a wall around Mycea of some form. Not to hem her in, but at least to make sure we can protect her core body if we need to. Course we should also get clippings so we can have some of her back on the home island, good back up.
or before we make presumptions we could just ask Mycea what she knows of the changelings (and the ants)
>>37760121supporting this, after we talk to the changlings
>>37754446OP you really need to get a twitter. I miss this thread until now.
>>37760313The thread usual comes around 5 pm EST, but I have missed the thread a couple of time.
>Ask about the Zizz.You Draw attention to their depiction of what you've come to know as the "Zizz" and they are quick to acknowledge that you must have clearly seen it before. Within their book the Zizz's depiction takes up two entire pages: it is a large red bird, it visibly blocks out the sun, and is accompanied by what appears to be lightning. They go on to demonstrate through arm waving, drawing in the dirt, and making sound effects that the Zizz has frequented their part of the world and through it's sheer size and presence has brought forth terrifying and destructive thunder storms and terrible winds. They go on further to explain how it's presence has kept them from building or settling the flat plain- not for fear of the bird, but of the Storm it brings. >Ask about the Ant people.Their attitude becomes incredibly "dutiful" and they morph fingers to wave back and forth. They regal you about the constant conflict between their people and the Ant people- how the Ant people are the ones who hold control over the open plains and deserts with their large mounds and complex labyrinth-like underground dwellings. They give the impression the Ant people are a thoughtless, callous, unromantic and ABUNDANT people.>Be Cordial. After the questionnaire, you exchange gifts: You give them some left over unfertilized dinosaur eggs you had been saving and are amused by how their dark eyes seem to widen when you hand them the head sized eggs, you also gladly give them some of your dried dinosaur meat since they seemed to have a taste for the uniquely marbled fatty and savory flesh. They in turn give you the Book they had read to you and another edible yellow wheel. The exchange is then adjourned. The changelings quietly pack their things, slide over to the sides of their riding beasts and.. ?slither? onto their backs. They grab their reins and turn around to wave back at your people before riding off.You never once saw what they looked like underneath their cloaks
>>37760415advanced slime-clay people
>>37760415Look at them, villianizing the Ant People. I'm definitly going to take that with a grain of salt.
>>37760415So changlings are nomadic? Man we should see if a few of them want to take a tour of our lands some time. Might give them a chance to enjoy sendentary lifestyles.Now we gotta find the Ant People.
>>37760415I want to set up a colony on the coast on this side of the mountain. Lots of space to grow.
>>37760647A Monolith of Air might be able to help keep the air calm around the colony
>>37760647>>37760756Can I get more support for this? Consensus might help a lot knowing the dice.
>>37760756Maybe if we make that tech, maybe the changelings could feel confortable enough to settle proper. Also I just realized... we got a "Book" as in... Bound leather and paper. rather than... weird bamboo scrolls and plates and whatnot.
>>37760083>>37760042>>37760121SPEAKING OF MYCEA>+New Event+: Mycea holds Divine Assembly>Mycea has temporarily closed and sealed off access to her personal chambers only mentioning that she needs to "Host a small private party between some of my neighbors; do not worry it won't take long, so please don't worry." Her presence in the form of her "shoots" and extensions are ironically enough still assisting and interacting with people as if nothing is happening- but her "true" body is indeed locked away and access to her main structure is being denied. >She even goes so far as to have her "shoots" very gently and carefully pick anyone up and carry anyone anyway who comes too close- all the while apologizing profusely before setting them down, hugging them and sliding back into her growth.>In the proceeding nights their appears to be a dull glow coming from both the bottom and the top of her growth and despite no one having seen anyone coming or going from the structure- on particularly quiet nights different voices can be heard from within.You may now roll for 2 new Actions and 1 new Idea.
Rolled 74 (1d100)>>37760815Set up a colony on the other side of the mountains by the coast.
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>37760815For monolith of Air
>>37760798I'll back it. the nomads seem nice enough and we should have some method of watching the new lands. We might even manage to encourage the changlings to join us if we give them safe haven. It sounded like they're always moving to avoid the ant men's wrath.
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>37760815Backing this>>37760798
Rolled 13 (1d100)>>37760815Spirit Guardians/Shamanism. Kind of like japanese area gods and spirits
Rolled 44 (1d100)>>37760871Shrines and the like too
Rolled 1, 20 = 21 (2d20)>>37760815Hm... any chance we could listen in on this "private" conversation? I could abandon this action if need be. I suggest setting up a colony in the grasslands, maybe even a trade route.
>>37760913What the hell are those rolls?
Rolled 8 (1d100)>>37760815>>37760871Supporting.
>>37760871>>37760900damn, least the help roll will mitigate any disasters.
>>37760913What did you just do? God damnit.
>>37760949Total Failure and Total Success all in the same breath it seems. But that said i wouldn't mind abandoning the "first roll" just cause it was a curious idea. asking if it was "possible"
Rolled 39 (1d100)improve enchantmentlet's have some magical architecture going on guys
Rolled 1 (1d100)>>37760871Supporting
Rolled 16, 7 = 23 (2d20)>>37760815Set up colony of Cyclops and gorgons, invite Changelings if they wantBuild a monolith of air to calm the Zizz storms locallyhopefully that doesn't piss off the Zizz
Rolled 11 (1d20)continue to develop carpentry with wood, leathers
>>37760815Idea: Perhaps we can get a understanding of what lies in the rest of our world from Akalade, especially since he's from space, he must have a whole map of all the continents.
>>37760913If she needs to be alone that's fine. We should trust her.
>>37760994You're not helping!
>>37761025Fuck forgot to roll. >>37760994God dammit what are you doing?
>>37761043Hah. reminds me of that episode of reboot where everyone got retarded except the kid.>WE ARE HELPING WE ARE HELPING!
Rolled 64 (1d100)>>37761055>>37761025Still forgot weird.
Rolled 89 (1d100)>>37760815Try to locate the antpeople.
>>37761072https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a1EHStEbqUthanks for the memory anon.(they even have one eye the lot of them)
>>37760815make elephants/ mamoth hybrid (and ride it if it's work)
>>37760823>>37760859>>37760867>Establish a Colony on the Coast just beyond the Mountains. >Roll 74/100>Just short of 75. Interesting results. Farther north, beyond the mountains, just due east until the coast can finally be seen- there's a Jungle. The Jungle beyond the Mountains is quite similar to the jungles your people have called home since the dawn of time upon your indigenous islands: There's a variety of the short elephants you've become so familiar with- though they remain wild and untamed, there's a number of deer, birds, and even smaller dinosaurs such as Raptors- You eventually even spot a Manticore. Yes, it all seems like business as usual and just another jungle.. until you reach the Water. The Waters are where it dwells. It is FAT. It is HAIRLESS. It's often seen yawning it's mouth wide open to display a set of TUSKS. At dawn and dusk you see them crawl up from the waters; carrying their pudgy bodies on chubby little back legs and massive, muscular, knuckle-walking clenched meat fists.They're content to graze on foliage, fruit, grasses, and the mangrove trees on the coast- all of which they clasp and tear down like paper with their chubby primitive hands.. but they still intimidate your people. >The Hippo is a large, semi-aquatic, knuckle-walking herbivore. It congregates in large herds within any body of water it can find and is one of the most dangerous megafauna native to the plains.
>>37761384We must tame themFor the Collective
>>37761384>is one of the most delicious megafauna native to the plainsFTFY
>>37761431No. Hippos are mean. Leave them be. Maybe hunt them from time to time, or have preserves, but I doubt we can tame hippos.
>>37761431why we should tame everything we set our eye on?
>>37761490because the planet is ours Anon it is fate
>>37761490Because Cyclops love every living being on their planet. Everything has it's place. Even the Parrats did before our tampering.
>>37761447Hippos are real big dicks though. if you provoke one (which is hilariously easy) they will happily FUCK YOUR SHIT UP.The effects would probably be migrated against a cyclops but they're still pretty dangerous and foul tempered. don't let their appearance fool you.Obviously you bunch are gonna squee over it anyway but I fucking warned you bro I WARNED YOU BOUT THE HIPPOS BRO!I WARNED YOU
>>37761490That's not accurate. Take the sauropods for example. It's been around for a while, but no attempted to domesticate it has been made.
>>37760836>For monolith of Air>Roll 13/20>Above Average Success +Census Reached.The Elemental spirit of Air has always been the one most illusive to your people; The songs, poems, and hymns of the Air are some of your people's most obscurest..... But with the recent reminder of the Ancient and partially forgotten Zizz... Familiarizing yourself with the Song of Air could prove a sound long term decision. Support into the plains does not remain within the "majority" so the construction of Air Megaliths is something only taken upon and set out by a handful of Cyclopes who most frequent the passage over the mountains and into the plains. The Megaliths are of simple Mountain stone rolled out into the plains and fit into dug pegs before they're smoothed and finished on the spot with discreet and humble inscriptions. They do not possess any metal, no iron, and no gold- they are short, only waist height to a cyclopes, and they are usually set up in lines adjacent to roads or paths.
>>37761543Finished off the vectored version of the island cyclopean, now with more "W".
This may sound morbid, but why don't we hunt the hippos instead? They're tough, provide a challenge, and we have yet to hunt something large and aggressive ever sense the Boiling Lizard went extinct in our part of the region.
>>37761817No real reason to. Food is pretty plentiful already and there are much safer animals to hunt around here.
>>37761810here's a version with classic colors.
>>37762077I guess its more of a matter of challenge or sport. I remember when we first hunted a boiling lizard, we got Heroes out of it. Hunting hippos might be a similar situation.
>>37762473Thank you based anon!
>Shrines for Spirits, Elements, Gods and all manner of worship. >Roll 44/100>DOUBLES met with overwhelming failure.>+Interesting Results+Your people have always had a rich and developed cultural attachment to building great stone structures to the various Gods, Elements, and all manner of nature spirits- it's come to the point where it's simply second nature for communities to drag out a giant rock to show respect for some presence or another. You've always started to have something of a slight "monster" problem what with the occasionally Humbawumba eating everything, Grassmen being ignored until they're a problem, and the horror that the Tikibaling brings. In an Effort to solve this problem you've started erecting "smaller" more personalized megaliths- little tiny shrines that can be placed even inside homes and dwellings, so as to protect from malicious spirits. This has caused unforeseen consequences:>-Spiritual Development: New Monster: Food Elemental>The Food Elemental is a spirit possessing a piece of "food" which can be anything from a piece of fruit, loaf of bread, or even an entire bowl of stew. The Food will sprout small legs and sometimes tiny arms and proceed to cause havoc and mischief until it is killed or eaten. Food elementals cannot possess preserved food or food that has not be "harvested". Exposure to Salt will kill them.>Poverty Beast>The Poverty beast is a monster that takes the form of an emaciated, sad-looking tapir with humanoid arms and a long monitor lizard tail. Wherever it goes it brings bad luck, misfortune, and economic turmoil: food rots and people lose money. The Poverty beast is attracted to affluent places. It can be defeated using generosity, but it can also be killed. If it is defeated with gifts; it will break apart and waft away into a vapor of soul. If it is killed though it reveals it's true origins; falling apart into a rotting mass of animals killed by neglect or abuse.
>>37762550How is a 44 an overwhelming failure?
>>37762608it was a failed roll in the first place, and also someone rolled a 1 when trying to support. Plus the dubs are in the lower quarter. And dubs always provide "interesting results".
>>37762550We need to settle our monster troubles, not with monster hunters but with virtues and good will.
>>37762739And maybe some animal shelters.
>>37762739Exorcists and Priests man. Saying good riddance to monsters and demons, with a lot less violence.
>>37762550>animals killed by neglect or abuse.;_;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGMiCpwZtfs
>>37762777>>37762813rolling for shelters, exorcists/priests, and studying monsters/demons next round
>>37760913>Listen in on this "private" conversation>>37761039>If she needs to be alone that's fine. We should trust her.>Roll 20/20>Success, met with respectful and good intentions.Despite Myceas explicit request for privacy... some things are inevitably heard within her private meetings and on the quietest nights where not even the wind blows and the darkness is accompanied by the dull glow of her growth hosting some strange other-worldly happenings.. some of your people manage to make out some the tail end of the discussion, but only broken up bits and pieces.You can clearly make out the familiar Voice of Mycea:>"What of the Children? I will not let any harm come to them.">"They have Akalade though, we can't ignore it-">"I Don't not CARE about that great writhing beast- He is no longer relevant, his time is over and he will be consumed as is the natur-" You also manage to recognize the voice of the Hydra Mother:>"The Great Progenitor will not be pleased.">"He could prove useful." >"I agree, The children-" >"But the Moon has been-" >"I can't help you Mycea, use have to ask them." >You can choose to confront Mycea after this post but it will lead into a "quest" development similar to when you opened the pod, I.E: Easing into this weeks session ending and turns will be taken at the span of Months/Weeks. >Would you like to? Y/N
>>37763050YWe've not yet had any large fight or other cultural touchstone; this could be it.
>>37763050Yes...I feel we must at least figure out what she wants...Was this a conversation amongst gods? For the destiny of the creatures below?Who's the great writhing beast? The Eye Below?Who's here and talking? Will Akalade be okay?
>>37763050YesPossibly bring Akalade along. Don't put him in any danger, I just think he should meet Myceas.
>>37763050I wanted exorcists, but this can be interesting.Yes.
>>37763050>N She wouldn't betray us or harm us. She'll come to us in time if there is something troubling her.
Could they be talking about cyclops-gorgon children? Or is it us, the children of the great progenitor, or some other race?
>>37763626>Cyclops-Gogon ChildrenGod damn, this is up there with "Riding Something" in terms of stuff we wanna do.
>Yes, Confront Mycea when she has finished her meeting.You wait until the end of the Month; when the "meetings" have stopped, she's unsealed and opened up her personal quarters, and is once again accepting and hosting guests within her confines. You bring with you a large and sizable entourage consisting of the Sage Council as well as a few prominent members of the more mundane but no less concerned Cyclopean/Gorgon Citizens as well as a small host of neighboring Tribal and Empire gorgons who had become concerned. She graciously accepts and leads you all inside, letting off a soft, warm, laugh while quipping, "Look at all my visitors- I'm so popular today; I hadn't imagined you would all miss me so much.. I have some tea and some lovely shelf mushro-" She is cut off when you tell her you overheard. She hugs herself and becomes visibly distressed as her cheery attitude slowly dissolves and turns into one of dread.She begins, "I do not expect you to completely understand, but you mustn't listen to the Followers of the great Progenitor. The.. "Merpeople" as you call them are being lead-astray by a being that does not have their best interests at heart- they have mistaken him for something benign and natural when he in reality he is a figment, a memory, of a very ancient time before plants, animals, worlds, elements or even Gods- He is one of many Morbid dreams from an entity that long predates creation and reality." She pauses for a moment to collect her composure and thoughts- she had slowly begun to hiccup, tears welling in her eyes and visibly becoming progressively more uncomfortable.(part 2 incoming, then choices)
>>37763790>Merpeople" as you call them are being lead-astray by a being that does not have their best interests at heartI knew we couldn't trust them.No one goes from Hating our guts to "being friendly" that fast. Especially at the behest of a "Deep Eye".
>>37763790I hope we didn't hurt her feelings...
Finished off some vectorized gorgon numerals guys. I neglected to include the pronunciation guide at the moment.
>>37763790She begins again, "I will not do as he says. I will not bend down to intimidation. He is frightened. He is frightened because life, the natural world: You, Me, The Grass, The Insects, The World snake and even the Hydra Mother- we are all part of the Natural world. We are birthed from abominations, we are the rotting maggots within the body that is one great cosmic horror after another as we consume their flesh, gnash and crack their bones, rend their innards, and split their eldritch souls into countless minuscule fragments to spark an innumerable and endless amount of life to further extend creation." There is a long pause as she extends herself and sends out shoots to accompany everyone; holding their hand, taking a breath, and continuing. "I love you." She slowly repeats each word once more, "I. Love. You. I love all of you and because I love you I will not let him have you. The Great progenitor thinks that he will be able to shepard the sympathies of the beings that are most reminiscent of his flesh: The Merpeople, The Cyclopes, he's even tried the Changelings at one point, but I hear the creature you've been calling the "Zizz" interfered." Her tone becomes slightly more serious, she's gained all of her composure and it seems she means business at this point, "I need Akalade. The Hydra Mother once came to you before to ask for him, but the murder of her physical form at the hands of "Elves" has made her unconvincing and weak and she has not yet reincarnated... I need Akalade. He and his people are fools; they have sterilized their world, enslaved their gods, and killed their beasts, but he needs to play his role to my specifications and not to the Great Progenitors." She kisses each attendant on the forehead and the cheek, "I need Akalade. Please Trust me."
>>37764335What will you decide?You might want to talk this one over.
I trust her
>>37764425Will Akalade be harmed?
>>37764335>>37764425This so heavy.But I think we can trust her. We did save her life and bring her family and friendship after what sounds like eons of enslavement and abuse by the elves.
>>37764425I vote to trust her.
>>37764425I trust her too, but there are quite a few things to consider.First of all... Akalade, is he truly an agent of The Deep Eye/Great Progenitor? or merely a pawn. I wouldn't want to give him to Mycea or the other gods if it means there is the possibility he could come to harm... We need to talk to him and her about this. But she is right, the Great Progenitor is something to be afraid of, and something dangerous. He is a beast of Guile, and a dangerous creature. He might even be the antithesis of Cyclopean life, despite our... well Origination from him. He is an Individual, a sole eye, that dominates the wills of others. We believe in the virtues of many eyes, many wills, working together, we commune, we put many wills to one purpose, not use one will to rule over many. He seems to be trying to manipulate us and the merfolk already. He's threatened us in the past, to concede with "peace".
I wonder if we should ask Akelade about this. He did mention serving a Queen.
>>37764335But will Akalade will be unharmed? He may be "that guy" but he's still a part of us. But what of "sending him/her back to the moon"?
>>37764663He might be, but what if it's for the greater good?
>>37764708We swore to protect him. And all he wants to do is learn about us.
>>37764734And all she wants to do is protect us, and the merfolk, and the changlings, and all the others the progenitor is trying to lead astray.
>>37764788We'll agree to bring him, but if he's in any kind of possible harm or death we'll have to find an alternative.
The progenitor wants to reclaim the life that sprouted from him. We must not allow this.The Elves must not be allowed to harvest our world and destroy it like they did theirs
>>37764916inb4 The Elves are from planet Mechonis and the progenitor is Zanza. It's Akalade time!
>>37764663>>37764661>>37764598>>37764524She is once again pleased and enamored by the ever present compassion and selflessness your people continue to exhibit without a moment of hesitation, "This is why I love you. Your first question was one of concern and this is how I know I can trust you."Her form slowly slinks back into the confines of her growth, you see mass, vegetation, and fungal flesh convulse and flex before she "slides" back out slightly damp and holding what appears to be a small, hair-covered, pod cradled in her arms. "I am aware of Akalade's mission and objective: he wishes to revitalize his world and bring back it's growth.. but his people are ignorant and they are selfish- his plain will ultimately fail because it does not matter if he heals their land- their character would lead to them repeating their mistakes. The Progenitor is riding on this. He cannot consume a living world." She beckons a Cyclopes to take the pod from her and a handful eagerly stumble over one another to eagerly oblige, she begins to blush profusely when it is picked up, "T-this is one of my spores. It is what Akalade Desires; with it you could potentially revitalize entire continents with rich plant and fungal growth as seen in my grove."She Instructs you further, "If you wish me to spare Akalade; you must convince him to give the Pod he used to ascend down from the moon to me. I will then infect it with my spores and launch it into the Ocean and at the Progenitor- It will infect him, poison him, rot him from the inside out, before consuming his flesh. I will then be able to assist Akalade with his World, but only after."
>>37765068Okay.I guess the loss of his pod is acceptable.After all, I kinda felt a lunar mission is a good late game objective. We'll get Akalade home. He just might be a bit late.
>>37765068Knowing him, Akalade will be all to eager to this terms to revive his planet and serve his queen. But like Mycea say, his people have to change in order for this to be effective.
come homego into the waterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJVs3qprmSw
>>37765068>>37765115Agreed.It's not often that a race can rejuvenate a dying demi-god then help them consume a progenitor titan to ascend further into godhood
>>37765068I'll agree to this.
>>37765313We can agree... the problem is getting Akalade to.
If I'm understand this right, it's a choice between giving him the spore and letting him go back to try to revitalize the moon on his own, or asking him to stay here, give us his pod, and letting us use it to essentially save both, right?
>>37765579I think the moon has been taken over as an outpost for his elven brethren while their planet is out there nearly dead
>>37765579pretty much. From what i understand.Regardless we might be giving him the spore as it can revitalize things. Its the difference between revitalizing his planet sooner rather than later. Its a bargaining chip for his pod.
>>37765068Do we roll at all? To like convince him OP? Just curious.
>>37765115>>37765228>>37765283>>37765313She is pleased with your compliance and willingness to help, "I have no love for the Elves. Their abrupt and brief visitation of this world was facilitated by necessity, but in their plight to 'save' their own world they enslaved me, re-purposed me, and used me as a machine.. a.. Computer as they would call it? They even went so far as to kill the Hydra mother and enslave her brood to domesticate them and breed for their own purposes; Which reminds me-" She beckons forth and into the crowd and almost on que one of the Gorgons who had joined the Audience rose before the people to stand beside Mycea.She is an abnormally large Gorgon in every single manner: with fine Gold jewelry, even finer silken robes, possessing an over-endowed bosom, with equally disproportionately over sized snake hair. Her voice is deep and Sultry but familiar, "I have to thank you, my lovelies, my dear sweet children- I must admit I played you like fools.. but I've slowly become enamored by your generosity, kindness, and selflessness even in the face of my impatient, brooding, and violent daughters.." Mycea introduces her, "You might not have realized it, but you've been actively breeding back the Hydra mother- she's.. still.. a couple hundred years short of true reincarnation, and even if you were slightly conned- we appreciate everything you've done and you will be rewarded." This revelation makes a number of your Cyclopes slightly nervous- The Hydra mother has always played something of a "Trickster/Fertility" diety within your pantheon and she isn't exactly someone you completely trust unless it involves copulation- which she can be trusted completely. She lets out a deep, satisfying, unnerving cackle from her stomach that breaks into a snort, "The best part is Mycea wants me to assist you in the retrieval of the pod, Ooooh won't that be fun?"
>>37765669With that, you guys may now proceed to roll and plan out your immediate/final course of action concerning what you're going to do about Akalade before we call it a night for this session.
>>37765669So a space-elf with the key to revive a planet, a demi-goddess of fungus, and the almost reincarnation of fertility/trickey walk into a bar.....
>>37765770Let's get Akalade opinion on the matter.
How many hundreds of years off are we from making voliens or pianos?
I'm still not quite sure what the spore she gave us is for if we're intending to use the pod to eventually save his planet anyway.
Rolled 47 (1d100)>>37765770Approach Akalade about this new proposal. Tell him the truth. Ask what he wants from it. We cannot force him to accept the God's choice if he does not wish it but we can not allow his people or the Deep Eye to corrupt or destroy our home.
>>37765852She is using the pod to save Our and his planet in the long run. By murdering the Deep Eye. The spore... as said earlier, is meant to be more of a bargaining chip. A definite, and assured planet rejuvenator, but one he won't be able to use right away if we have him relinquish his pod.
Rolled 62 (1d100)>>37765770We are planning to murder the Merfolk's God... we might need to prepare a stockpile or some stuff for war.
Rolled 19 (1d100)>>37765770>>37765916Adding my support to this.
Rolled 12 (1d100)>>37765916supporting
>>37765770>>37765952Time to weaponize those bells.I'm imagining Skaven Siege-bells
Rolled 41 (1d100)>>37765770>>37765916Whelp, here goes nothing.
Rolled 49 (1d100)>>37765916>>37766000>>37766002>>37766052omg not the time for these rolls
>>37765770Time to talk to Akalade. see if we can convince him of the situation at hand. let him lend us... or well give us, his pod.
>>37766107Well...we got some 40s in there. Hopefully tha's enough to avert total catastrophe.
>>37766109should i even try risking rolling the d20 i forgot?
Rolled 78 (1d100)>>37765770Supporting.
>>37766155May be better to just roll on the option already presented.
Rolled 11 (1d20)See if we can get the gorgons to provide some aide in this war effort. Manticores might be all over fighting an elder god.
Rolled 30 (1d100)>>37766177eh true. I just worry, we'll be taking his way home away from him is the problem. and what use is the rejuvenation spore if he has no way to contact them? >>37766162supporting.
>>37766181I think we should mention to Mycea about the Manticore's obsession with her and their power of fungal necromancy
>>37766213Yeah we probably should. Make sure its something she is either "okay" with or something she wants us to quash.
Rolled 9 (1d100)>>37765916SUPPORTAN
I wonder what the stars and sun have to say about these goings on?
>>37766213Yeah. That'd probably be a good idea.
>>37765770Meant to like.>>37766162to>>37765916
>>37766239just stop. You and I aren't helping.
>>37765916>Approach Akalade about this new proposal. Tell him the truth. Ask what he wants from it.>Roll 47/100>Akalade Rolls 1/20>Merfolk rolls 15/100>Cyclopes win, but only because everyone else failed more miserably.With the news of Mycea's plan on the minds of the Sage Council they think it is only appropriate that they summon Akalade and update him on the news and what you'd ideally LIKE to happen and what maybe what CAN happen that would be ideal for all parties involved. Unfortunately, Akalade is not exactly having a really great time. This may have seemingly gone unnoticed at the time and realistically in the long run it doesn't entirely matter in the grand scheme of things, but Akalade had only just recently outlived his "indigenous husband". Akalade is entirely expressing it outwardly, but his immortality is catching up to him as he realizes the implications of living amongst a species that grows and dies in the span of what his species considered "only a few years". Akalade is not.. exactly.. hysterical, but he is being difficult to deal with, unresponsive, and he is suffering internally.Akalade is not a god. Akalade isn't a civilization. Akalade is a single elf with personal hopes, dreams, ambitions, and he doesn't believe in magic or gods or cosmic horrors. Akalade falls in love, Akalade gets bored, Akalade gets scared. Akalade is having a hard time right now.Akalade doesn't resist you taking his Pod. Akalade doesn't even leave his Apartment. Akalade has spent weeks laying in bed, staring up at the wall in his temperature controlled room and thinking to himself over and over again, "I wasn't ready. I was the wrong person to send on this mission."He also feels very stupid.>You did not receive the confrontation you were expecting and many of your Sages if anything feel worse now because of it. They had all come to expect.. a little more out of Akalade and had forgotten that despite his age he is just a simple little Elf.
Poor little Akalade. What can we do for him?
>>37766504For all our shorter lives, and peaceful civilization, we ultimately think on this "Grand Scale". we forget the million individual tragedies that take place.Akalade is an individual. and truly... that must hurt. maybe we can have a communion with his husband's spirit? research ghost contacting or something.
>>37766609Closure perhaps? Channel the spirit of his little native hubby? Contact the stars, make sure he's alright?
And I think with that all finally out of the way- We can call it a night on this session!The thread is already archived, so please go vote: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.htmlThe next session will as always be next Saturday; same general time, etc..I am currently writing and illustrating a little Bestiary for us so we can keep track of all the various plants and animals of importance that we run into. It will be available as a pdf and I'll hopefully be able to post it next session. I hope everyone had a really great time and that my writing was on par with the expected quality of story telling you've come to appreciate. Thank you so much for the Art Edits: >>37756889And the improved Alphabit- >>37761810 >>37762473 I LOVE UM.
>>37766618M-maybe he should meet Mycea? She is the only being we know that can match his lifespanI wonder what Sun and Moon think of this
>>37766644How awful would it be if that went wrong though?
>>37766652Gee thanks OP. But I've made a quick sketch of the Deep Eye as well. >>37765249
>>37766652Thanks for the thread OP, even though it ended in a really depressing note with a dire situation.
>>37766714Soul crushing despair, maybe resentment towards us. Honestly a lot. But maybe we can channel the stars to see if he is okay.
I could use a cyclops hug after this thread :(
>>37766678I'm pretty sure Mycea would hate his guts though.
>>37766827That's even more depressing! The only being that can match his age-length hates him because of his people.
>>37766827Hopefully she'll learn from the compassion the cyclopeans have shown in all their dealings.
>>37766882Maybe we should figure out immortality then?Or you know... set him and Mycea on a date, and hope she isn't too tsundere.
>>37766644>>37766714>How awful would it be if that went wrong though?It could go wrong in a lot of interesting and depressing ways.You need to consider that Akalade isn't superstitious; he doesn't believe in Magic and he most likely doesn't recognize or otherwise acknowledge the existance of an after life. He might take overwhelming and potentially psychotic offensive to you presenting him with the ghostie vision of his late hubby.
>>37767006So a bad idea then.I still propose getting him acquainted with Mycea.
>>37767006Forgot about his militant Fantasy Atheism/Anti-magic stance or whatever you'd like to call it. Yeah he might not appreciate us "channelling" his spirit. But maybe a ceremony or something. to provide closure. yeah we'll have a big "commend his spirit to the stars" thing going on, but still the thoughts that we care, and giving himself the chance to mourn and grieve might be an idea. and where are you getting all these angry Eureka pictures OP seriously? this is hurting my feelings.
>>37767006Have you ever considered creating a ask page?If the Dinosaur Tribe and the Spider Tribe are trading us livestock shouldn't we have Beetles and maybe some other tamed Dinosaurs, like the Sauropods or Therasaur, by this point?
>>37764425I vote to kill Mycaena for being an abomination.
>>37767105A small private Funeral might be more in his taste- if I'm allowed to give good advice. There's two things you need to consider in this situation with Akalade: Akalade is an individual person.. so he might not like a big fancy event or a lot of publicity, etc.. Akalade's species is by their own accepted standard, are functionally immortal. He might not exactly appreciate Death the same way we do.>>37767112>shouldn't we have Beetles and maybe some other tamed Dinosaurs, like the Sauropods or Therasaur, by this point?You have access to Beetle products, but trading for beetles hasn't been brought up yet. The Dinosaur tribe doesn't "domesticate" Thersaurs- they tame them. Domesticated Therasaurs would be counter intuitive to their "election" process- they like them WILD and UNRULY. (Here, have a picture of a Therasaur I drew for our Bestiary. Male Therasaurs have Waddles. )They do possess Sauropods though- it is within great political ease that you could successfully negotiate obtaining a breeding stop of Sauropods.
So we have access to gems now, do they have any interesting magical properties?
>>37767218>He might not exactly appreciate Death the same way we do.I getcha. death is sort of... Natural and cyclical for us. Death is a constant to everyone else but elves. For elves Death is an exception.
>>37767218I love the inclusion of flying craft
>>37767218Can anyone draw for the thread?
>>37767218Do the beetles have horns and could we possible have giant beetle fights with them? Maybe, something where the first to push his opponent out of the ring or flip them wins?
>>37767453>Can anyone draw for the thread?Anon, are you implying my drawing skills are not up to snuff?I am INCREDIBLY offended. LOOK AT THIS BEAR I DREW. LOOK.
>>37767476Just like the beetle fights in japan>>37767490That is one lovely bearand I ain't criticizing, I just wanna show my love for the Civ
>>37767453There are a few that do draw stuff for the threads. and its been a while since i've been able to do anything big. still working on trying to make pillarmen gorgons look good . I can take some simple requests if need be.
>>37767218But, wasn't trading for beetles in the actual agreement they presented for trade?
>>37767476>Do the beetles have horns and could we possible have giant beetle fights with them? Maybe, something where the first to push his opponent out of the ring or flip them wins?Yes, this is something they already do- it just hasn't been a relevant piece of information. The spider Tribe is fucking HUGE on giant beetle fights; they bet and handle that shit like we do cock fighting. Except it's more safe/not a blood sport and our Cyclopean people would probably unironically really, REALLY enjoy it if it were to be introduced to our Culture. I actually also drew a picture of our current most important/relevant indigenous giant insects for the planned bestiary: Giant Hercules Beetle, Giant Cicada (They are even bigger and annoying), Giant Moths, Giant Dung beetle (Dinosaur poops, anon) and Giant Trapdoor Spider (They're even worse because they build burrows UNDERNEATH Mushroom trees and drop from them onto prey below- Harmless to adult humanoids, but terrifying.)>>37767515>That is one lovely bear>and I ain't criticizing, I just wanna show my love for the CivOh by all means- I love seeing artwork for the Civ quest. It's extremely flattering.
>>37767595The insect picture unfortunately has been butchered by MS paint- my sincerest apologies. Enjoy this picture of the Kakonga.It is a bird-like mammal (Monotreme) and it is basically a combination between a gorilla and a kakapo.
>>37767595i'm sure Spider-Tribe children loves to prank Cyclops and City Gorgon visitors with the harmless TrapdoorsI wanna see giant beetles big enough to grab a Cyclops on the back and function like a living flightpack/jetpack
>>37767650Have the Cyclopes invented some of the following?RopeBlock and TackleBuoyIncenseTapestriesLoomBarns and/or Stables
>>37767722>Block and Tackle>Buoy>Incense>Tapestries>LoomNo.>RopeYes>Barns and/or StablesYes in the some sense. They have chicken/rat coops which they keep small animals in and these are in most if not all houses and they have much LARGER shaded enclosures where Elephants or Peccaries are kept. Triceratops have their own special one since they need room to lay eggs.
>>37767779Looms are a definite must. Same with incense and tapestries. We have all the silk we could needAlso reproducing books
>>37767779Do we have Gorgon heroes?
>>37767779Have they figured out how to make glue from animals?
>>37767860>Have they figured out how to make glue from animals?Your civilization? No. That would require some knowledge of Alchemy or Chemistry and currently we're absolutely ABYSMAL at both. I'm sure though you'd be able to receive assistance from neighboring civilizations to help pick up the slack.
>>37767935How are the Tapirs?
God damn it, fell asleep before I could
>>37769285lobby for formalized magic schools for our young. Timezones and quests I follow do not get along.Apparently, neither does 4chanX and me..