>>37233088>>37233096>>37233099>>37233103>>37233104>>37233105>>37233119>>37233120"What do you want to learn next?" you ask Nappa."I want to get stronger, and you said you can make that happen," he tells you. "I want to show that rat Vegeta who's weak.""Well, for that kind of training, we probably want to get away from people," you tell Nappa.Leaving Icarus to stand guard over the chickens, the two of you silently take to the skies, flying away from your farm, as well as any people in general. Finding a field a good distance from anyone else, the two of you set down.You take a moment to think about how to make Nappa stronger. You became more powerful by testing yourself against stronger and stronger opponents, as well as by training at enhanced gravity. You're far too powerful for Nappa to really gain anything by fighting you, and you don't know if Bulma or her family have more ships with gravity chambers just lying around.>A. Explain to Nappa how you became so powerful>B. Explain to Nappa what you are>C. Tell Nappa to attack you>D. Try multiforming until you have copies weak enough for Nappa to fight
>>37233361>B. and then>D.
>>37233361>>D. Try multiforming until you have copies weak enough for Nappa to fight
>>37233361>D. Try multiforming until you have copies weak enough for Nappa to fight
>>37233361>>37233361>A. Explain to Nappa how you became so powerful>B. Explain to Nappa what you are>C. Tell Nappa to attack youGive him a bit of a story then tell him to attack us. We need to actually pay attention to his style so we can learn exactly how best to teach him and what might work, and what might not. He'd likely be insulted if we Multi-form off the bat though.
>>37233361>A. Explain to Nappa how you became so powerful>D. Try multiforming until you have copies weak enough for Nappa to fight
>>37233361A, B, and D.We could probably get Dr. Briefs to whip some up for everyone actually.
>>37233361>B. Explain to Nappa what you are>A. Explain to Nappa how you became so powerful>D. Try multiforming until you have copies weak enough for Nappa to fight"The key is finding your limits, understanding them and then pushing past them."
>>37233361>A. Explain to Nappa how you became so powerful>B. Explain to Nappa what you are>D. Try multiforming until you have copies weak enough for Nappa to fight
Can we ask how long Nappa's been at power level 5000, and why he's presumably stagnated?
>>37233543That seems like a good question. We have some basic idea of the Zenkai thing at this point so we can bring that up too I suppose.
>>37233543I like this
>>37233491>>37233478>>37233470>>37233461>>37233447>>37233441>>37233431>>37233420>>37233402You start off this part of the training by explaining to Nappa how you got so powerful. You've tested yourself against strong opponents, who got more and more powerful with each battle you fought. You tell him about your training at enhanced gravity, and finally explain to him what you are."A Super...Human?" Nappa asks in shock. You give a brief explanation as to what the Super Humans were, and how, as far as you know, you're the only one around today. At least for now."So nobody's seen one in a really long time, huh?" Nappa asks. "It's been a really long time since a Super Saiyan's been around, too. But if a Super Human can pop up after all of this time, a Super Saiyan can too."He chuckles. "Vegeta thinks he'll be the next Super Saiyan, but Kakarot's stronger than he is. But there's three of us left, four if you count the kid. I'd say that gives me decent odds of getting there."You tell Nappa that you're going to use the multiform technique and split until you create a copy weak enough for him to fight.Nappa growls. "Don't treat me like a weakling you little punk!">A. Apologize>B. Tell him to remember who he's talking to>C. Tell him to calm down>D. Ask how strong he is and how long he's been that way>E. Ask what he knows about Saiyans getting stronger after being hurt
>>37233543Probably because he's been doing nothing but curb stomping shit with Vegeta since Frieza blew up his planet.
>>37233656>>E. Ask what he knows about Saiyans getting stronger after being hurt
>>37233656D and E
>>37233656>B. Tell him to remember who he's talking to>E. Ask what he knows about Saiyans getting stronger after being hurt
>>37233656>A. Apologize>D. Ask how strong he is and how long he's been that way>E. Ask what he knows about Saiyans getting stronger after being hurt
>>37233656A, then B.We might have (unintentionally) phrased it in a dickish way, but we ARE way too powerful for him to have a chance fighting us.
We could also say that we are trying to learn from him as much as he is trying to learn from us as well. Can't really do that well if our level is too high.
>>37233760We're not, though. I mean, he can teach us a lot about space, but we're so far beyond him in combat that he's useless as a training partner.We need to fix him up with someone who he can keep up with; who can improve along with him. Maybe Yamcha.
>>37233656>D. Ask how strong he is and how long he's been that way>E. Ask what he knows about Saiyans getting stronger after being hurt
>>37233791Yamcha is weaker than only us, Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza, based on people we've met so far.
Hey guys, couldn't we just supress our power level to a much lower state and then fight? That'd pretty much accomplish what we were trying to do with the multifrom crap
>>37233815He is probably weaker than most of the Ginyu Force and Piccolo
>>37233815Goku and Piccalo are out of Nappa's league too, and Yamcha's a lot stronger here than he is in canon.
>37233791>We need to fix him up with someone who he can keep up with; who can improve along with him.Tien. They can be brothers in arms.(too soon?)
>>37233656>A. Apologize>D. Ask how strong he is and how long he's been that way>E. Ask what he knows about Saiyans getting stronger after being hurt"I didn't mean to make you mad, it just seems like the best method at the moment since once you're strong enough to beat one of my copies you'll have a good idea on how much you've improved. I'm not Frieza and I'm not Vegeta, I don't need to hurt your feelings to feel better about myself. You're also the first person who I've ever tried to teach anything to, so sorry if I mess up."
>>37233705This sounds good to me
>>37233855"If you fight my copy, I can watch!"
>>37233685>>37233687>>37233705>>37233699>>37233712>>37233716>>37233753"Sorry," you tell him.He grunts in response."So, how strong are you, exactly?" you ask."I'm usually at 4,000," he tells you. "When I really get to full strength, I'm at 4,500.""How long have you been that strong?" you ask."A few years," he tells you. "Back when Planet Vegeta was still around, I was at 3,200. But, Vegeta, Raditz, and I kept taking tougher and tougher missions. I got stronger, and reached the point where nobody was a challenge anymore.""So, after Vegeta got hurt by the Ginyu Force, he got a lot stronger," you tell Nappa."Yeah, when Saiyans get injured, we're much stronger once we recover," he explains. "The more serious the injury and the longer the recovery, the stronger we get.">A. Suppress your power level to the same as his and tell him to attack>B. Suppress your power to a level slightly higher than his and tell him to attack>C. Suggest beating him up and letting him get the boost from recovering
>>37233855This is a good line. Particularly>I'm not Frieza and I'm not Vegeta, I don't need to hurt your feelings to feel better about myself.Nappa's dealt almost exclusively with dicks most of his life, and absolutely exclusively after Planet Vegeta bit it. He's trained himself to look for shit talk. We should try to train him out of that.
>>37233912>>B. Suppress your power to a level slightly higher than his and tell him to attackFend off his attacks, but make a big deal of it.
>>37233912>B. Suppress your power to a level slightly higher than his and tell him to attack
>>37233844DRALO has said they are in the hundred thousands. So stronger than the Ginyus. They died because Ginyu took Vegeta's body.
>>37233912>>B. Suppress your power to a level slightly higher than his and tell him to attack
>>37233912B. Let's gradually get stronger and stronger so he can increase after getting injured exponentially.
>>37233844>>37233851>>37233815>>37233791Yamcha and Tien are much stronger now than they were in canon. Especially once they started training with King Kai, their power levels skyrocketed.Here's an idea of where everyone is.>Kaguya85 million>Goku4 million>VegetaAround 2 million>Piccolo1 million>Yamcha500,000>Tien480,000>Krillin50,000>Gohan40,000 (normal)>Chiaotzu20,000
>>37233912>A. Suppress your power level to the same as his and tell him to attack
>>37233912>B. Suppress your power to a level slightly higher than his and tell him to attack"I'm going to try and keep my strength just a little above yours. The idea is that you keep pushing yourself to match my strength, then once you do I raise it a little again. Don't get too frustrated at this, since if it works right you'll start improving faster and faster. It's how me and Goku were doing it before we got to Namek and he got really really strong because of it."
>>37233960DAMN we are ripped as shit.
>>37233960Woo, Gohan became more stronger than canon
>>37233960>Nappa is four times weaker than ChiaotzuJesus. Maybe Nappa needs to go train on the Lookout or something.
>>37233960Can PTO outposts spot Kaguya from disgustingly far away if he hits his full power?
>>37234012Kami would probably help. He can probably at least sense the danger of Frieza's family showing up.
>>37233960Yamcha and Tien need to have weekly meetings to spar. Being that close to each other while also being that powerful is a god send.Man even if we split 16 times we're still at 5.3 million.
>>37234018I seriously doubt it, or Frieza would never be able to sneak up on anyone.
>>37234047Our clones can take turns beating up Vegeta if he pisses us off.
>>37233960>Goku - 4 Mil>Vegeta - 2 MilMan I really hope they eventually meet up to spar Maybe we encourage Goku to go?
>>37233912>>B. Suppress your power to a level slightly higher than his and tell him to attack>back where we were during the saiyan arc
>>37234114SSJ transformations are kinda hax. I think they're a 100x multiplier on power or something.
Finally, I can fap (slang for masturbate)
>>37233960>Multiform x 1024 produces clones with 83,000 power levelTo get to Nappa's level we would have to multiform to 16,384 clones.We could split into sixteen thousand Nappas.
>>37234075I don't think Frieza bothered sneaking up on any planet he was visiting or conquering.
>>37233912>B. Suppress your power to a level slightly higher than his and tell him to attackMaybe Nappa will be able to slowly catch up to us at that level
>>37234114I hope so.Actually, better yet, spar with each member of the Z fighters at once via multiform. We'd just have to get them together.
>>37234149This is a very good idea, let's do it
>>37234149I really want this to happen
>>37233931>>37233935>>37233944>>37233947>>37233957>>37233963>>37233984Taking a deep breath, you lower your power to a level slightly higher than Nappa's. The Saiyan warrior watches you as you step towards him."I'm going to try and keep my strength just a little higher than yours," you tell him. "The idea is that you can keep pushing yourself to match my strength. Then, once you do, I raise my strength a little more."Nappa looks really irritated with the idea, probably seeing it as you coddling him or not taking his power seriously. Before he can yell at you again, you explain yourself."Don't get mad, this works. Me and Goku trained like this on the way to Namek, and he got a lot stronger because of it," you assure him.He takes a deep breath, and sighs. "Alright kid, if this doesn't work, I'm gonna be seriously pissed," he tells you, getting into a combat stance.The wind begins to pick up around you, and the ground begins to tremble. Nappa yells as clouds seem to form above him. A flash of lightning strikes him from above, and electricity dances around his skin.After a few more seconds, you sense that he's reached full power."Attack," you instruct.Nappa springs into action, rushing towards you as fast as he can. Lifting one hand above his head, he clenches it into a fist and brings it down hard. You block the punch, but slide back from the force of it. You remember now that, despite having more than twice his strength, you had to put significant effort into defeating Nappa when he arrived on Earth.>A. Power up to the level you were at the first time you fought Nappa>B. Power up to about twice his strength>C. Stay at this level and stay on defense>D. Stay at this level and try to counter
>>37234149Too bad Veggie is to prideful to get in on that, he'd be left behind fairly quickly. 2 million x 50 doesn't matter much if Goku is sitting at 100 million naturally or even 50 million since he can Kaiken x10 without strain at this point he'd be at 500 million.
Didn't Olibu mention something about getting weaker of we don't keep pushing ourselves? Would this apply to Cell too? Thus him fighting the others would weaken him.
>>37234209>D. Stay at this level and try to counter
>>37234209>>D. Stay at this level and try to counterand tell him how we got the drop on him.
>>37234209>B. Power up to about twice his strengthTry not to kill him by accident this time
>>37234209>>A. Power up to the level you were at the first time you fought Nappa
>>37234209>>B. Power up to about twice his strength
>>37234245It means if we pull a Gohan, not training all those years before buu
>>37234209>D. Stay at this level and try to counterYou're technique is much better than mine, guess I'll work on that while we fight.
>>37233960We need to gather up Krillin, Gohan, Chiaotzu, Nappa, our friends, Yamcha, and Tien.We'll have group training sessions.
>>37234209>Power up to the level you were at the first time you fought Nappa
>>37234130That won't work.>>37234114Goku would probably enjoy it>>37234018Possibly, but they're not looking in this part of the galaxy at the moment>>37234012Chiaotzu got his potential unlocked by Guru. He can still get stronger, but it was a nice little boost.>>37233993Saiyans seem to hit a road block in the low millions that they overcome by transforming. In Battle of Gods, after the Buu Saga, Beerus said Goku probably couldn't have slain Frieza in his base form.>>37234245Yes, your powers will begin to decline if you go too long without some sort of challenge. There are ways for Cell to get around that, though
>>37234209>B. Power up to about twice his strengthPay him a compliment since he can hit outside his weight class as well as he can. Mention that we'd like to learn how he does the lightning thing too since it's neat.
>>37234322Totally need a group sparring session.
>>37234209>B. Power up to about twice his strength
>>37234284THISWe just found how Nappa can help us train: we have glorious power but are fighting like a six year old farmer. He can train us to fight like a warrior.
>>37234322It's too bad we didn't get to meet Guru. It would have been neat to hear his opinion even if he couldn't unlock our potential. If he COULD unlock it that would be even better.
>>37234322My god, something tells me training Nappa is a bad idea then...We gotta go on space adventures and quick, maybe try to find Cooler and King Cold quick.
>>37234322Yeah, base form Goku is 60 million at the end of dbz, as strong as 50% frieza
>>37234355Good point. Let's have Nappa teach us some technique while we help him break past his limits.>>37234397We decline if we slack off. We can find other ways to push ourselves even if we're training people weaker than us.
>>37234397What, because our power will decline over time? We probably have to sit on our ass for a long time before that will start hurting us. Androids will be here in a year.
>>37234380I had actually thought about that for if you had decided to go to Namek with Gohan and Krillin. He would have commented that your potential is too great for him to bring out all together, but that he could bring a very small portion of it to the surface.So, you would have gotten a boost.>>37234407Cool, so yeah, a power gap between you and base form Saiyans is to be expected.>>372344394 and a half years
>>372344394+ years actually. It's a while until Trunks shows up, then 3 years after that.
>>37234425>other ways to push ourselvesFlying into hard vacuum and staying there as long as possible comes to mind. So does taking a spaceship dangerously close to the sun and tanking the heat and radiation.Training doesn't necessarily mean fighting.
>>37234468>>37234459Huh. Plenty of time to go be space pirates then.
>>37234459I'm looking forward to ADVENTURES! As well as hanging out with our childhood friends and the Z fighters. I want Yamcha to get us some tickets to a big game and go with the gang.
You guys are forgetting who is back on earth and not in space, Goku, aka the guy who is close to our strength level and loves to train
>>37234473If Goku could get heart disease from being a fat fuck then I'm pretty sure we could get cancer from bathing in radiation
>>37234530We have four and a half years. We can afford to spend a week or two with Nappa for shits and giggles.
>>37234530>Goku>Close to our strengthmaybe if he kaio kens x20, but I'm pretty sure we're still stronger, he doesn't like doing it because danger, and he can't keep it up for long
>>37234530>close to our strength levelWe are 21 times stronger than Goku. Until he Or Vegeta, or Nappa, goes SSJ it's lonely at the top.
>>37234555We can scale out power down or mutliform to his level. We can make it work. And with enough zenkais, he'll catch up.
>>37234546Dragonballs and Senzu Beans.
>>37234473We can also do things like refine our Ki, practice and improve the Taihouki, practice encasing ourselves in energy, learning to make an energy barrier, learning to make it stronger by making 15 clones attack 1 clone, having a race with all our multiforms, practicing our detection by playing hide and seek with the gang and nappa (which might help us detect Androids if we get Hax enough at it), practice controlling the energy around us possibly even stopping and absorbing energy attacks, etc. Lots we can do without directly raising our PL that should keep us in shape and that's not even counting pushing our mental limits and the limits of our charisma.
>>37234592And we need to make that energy sword we keep talking about.
>>37234609>>37234592These all sound more interesting than the typical DBZ attacks we always see.
>>37234580Nah, saiyans plateau. Some guy just said base form goku never went higher than a PL of 60 million. The only way for him to catch up is going super sayian. Looks like we better kill Krillin while he watches.
>>37234569>>37234555I think he meant Goku is the person wit a PL closest to ours and considering how Saiyans work him and Veggiebro would be the best to train with if you look at it from how fast PL increase
>>37234609yep. I also want to learn the Bustah Wolf Fang Fist.
We need to train our multiform and have some of them explode like the ghost's from gotenks
>>37234248>>37234252>>37234284>>37234289>>37234355>>37234364>>37234425"Your technique is a lot better than mine," you compliment as you parry his next punch. "I'll work on mine while we fight."He chuckles. "I've been fighting since I was younger than you, kid. I've got a lot of experience fighting a lot of people, of course my technique is better than yours."You remain at the same strength level and attempt to counter Nappa's attacks, managing to land a solid kick to the side of his face that knocks him back. He quickly recovers and rushes back towards you, attacking with a swift flurry of punches and kicks.As you defend yourself from Nappa's assault, you take note of what he's doing. He's attacking quickly enough where you need to pay attention in order to block or knock them aside, and with enough power where doing so take some effort. His speed and power make countering difficult, as you're forced to stay on a pretty constant defensive so you don't risk getting hit hard.Your size, once again, puts you at a disadvantage as well, as getting in close enough to land a solid attack would prove difficult.>A. Raise your power to double hid>B. Raise your power to what it was during your first fight>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw him>D. Remain on the defensive
>>37234473We could dive to the deepest depths of the Earth's oceans and due some pressure training and fight against Cthulhu.
>>37234609Fuck it, we have Destructo Disc. We can just make one of those and hold it while rushing an opponent.
>>37234642We seem to have an affect on aliens that want to match and surpass us, so we might be able to break a Saiyan's plateau, and if we really push them might even help them become super saiyan since that involves pushing past limits as well (though we can only really help vegeta with the rage portion of it).
>>37234672>>B. Raise your power to what it was during your first fight>>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw himhe needs to work for it.
>>37234672>>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw himthrow him
>>37234672>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw him
>>37234672>>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw him
>>37234672>B. Raise your power to what it was during your first fight>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw himWe need to remember this is for his benefit so we can't sand bag too much.
>>37234672>>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw himMake the bald man fly.
>B. Raise your power to what it was during your first fight>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw himWe judo now
>>37234672What is the powerlevel difference between A and B?
>>3723475411.5k for B and just OVER 9000!!!! for A.
>>37234754When we fought him we were 11,000. Double his PL is 9,000 or so.
>>37234754a is 9,000, b is 11,000
>>37234672>A. Raise your power to double hisWe're doing stepping stones here. Above that may be too much.
>>37234672CIf that doesn't work, B.
>>37234672>B. Raise your power to what it was during your first fight>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw him
>>37234672>C. Use his weight and force against him: catch a punch or kick and throw him>>37234685Maybe we can teach Nappa Destructo Disc sometime? Its a pretty powerful move even when used by people with comparatively low power levels
>>37234740>we judo nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYFhWBCfoX0>not karate
>>37234740>>37234730>>37234728>>37234724>>37234714>>37234712>>37234693>>37234691>>37234689When Nappa throws his next punch, you grab him by the wrist.Doing so leaves you open, and his right knee comes up, slamming into your chin and knocking you off of your feet. You roll with it, backflipping through the air and throwing Nappa over your shoulder.He lets out a surprised yell as you send him up into the sky, but manages to right himself fairly quickly. As you land, you look up and watch him halt himself, then come charging down at you.You leap to the side as he comes crashing down, his fist slamming through the ground. You fire a quick barrage of energy blasts in his direction, all of which hit him full blast. Nappa manages to block and absorb most of the damage, and begins charging towards you as you charge towards him.You throw the first punch, and he grabs your fist, swinging you above his head and going a few feet into the air before throwing you to the ground beneath him.He points two fingers skyward, and swings his arm down towards you, releasing energy in an arc.>A. Avoid it>B. Block it>C. Charge Nappa>D. Power to double his strength>E. Power to the level you were during your first fight with him
>>37234896>>C. Charge NappaMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA!
>>37234896D and B.
>>37234896>E. Power to the level you were during your first fight with him
>>37234896>D. Power to double his strength>A. Avoid it
>>37234896>A. Avoid it>D. Power to double his strengthIf we don't power up and actually beat him down he won't improve
>>37234930SecondI wish I had a picture of Scruffy but I don't, and this quest moves so fast I'm afraid to search for one
Power up to double, they get stronger by getting beaten up. So we gotta beat him up a little bit. Well, a lot a bit.
>>37234896power up to Nappa x 1.5, and charge him.
>>37234896>D. Power to double his strength
>>37234896>D. Power to double his strength>A. Avoid itHe needs the zenkai boost speed training
>>37234896>>D. Power to double his strength
>>37234930>>37234951>>37234966>>37234969>>37234980>>37234983>>37234989>>37234994You quickly power up to double Nappa's strength and get off the ground, barely evading the blast he sent your way.Looking down, you see a seemingly bottomless pit where his blast struck, and, despite your increase in strength, are glad you didn't let that hit you.Nappa is upon you at once, forcing you back on the defensive. You're able to better deal with it this time around, but it still takes more effort than you would like to keep the Saiyan at bay.You grab his fist again, only for one of his legs to slam into your chest and push against it, while his other hand shoots a wave of energy into your face, forcing you to let go and knocking you back.He smirks at you.>A. Go on the offensive and really give him a beating>B. Go on the offensive and beat him quickly>C. Stay on the defensive>D. Power up to the level of strength you used in your first battle against him
>>37235097>A. Go on the offensive and really give him a beating
>>37235097A give him that power boost.
>>37235097>A. Go on the offensive and really give him a beatingSlow steady methodical beating in of the face.
>>37235097>>A. Go on the offensive and really give him a beating
>>37235097>A. Go on the offensive and really give him a beatingTime for him to work on his defense!
>>37235125>>37235121>>37235114Do you realise this'll make him fear us and hate us?That's not a good thing for an underling to have for his boss.
>>37235097Give him a taste of the wolf fang fist.
>>37235097A>Good, good, you are a very capable attacker. Now work on defending.
Sweet! Finally caught up.
>>37235167Let's see how well you can DODGE!!!
We're trying to train him, so shouldn't we just power up enough to push him back?
Just realized, we should learn about Oozaru from him at some point. Kind of super important to know about.
>>37235097>A. Go on the offensive and really give him a beatingNow let's see how he handles defense!
>>37235221We got the shit beat out of us by Oozaru Vegeta.
Is Kaguya aware of the cause and reason for the Oozaru transformation?
>>37235266I know, so we know Sayians can become giant monkeys, or at least Vegeta can. We should ask Nappa about it at some point.
>>37235097>A. Go on the offensive and really give him a beatingNOW DODGE!!!
>>37235114>>37235117>>37235121>>37235125>>37235139>>37235141>>37235148>>37235153>>37235167"You attack well," you admit. "Now let's see you defend."Nappa chuckles, getting into a defensive stance as you spring into action, slamming your fist into his gut before he can block it. He hunches over, bringing up his knee to your jaw, and you have to jump back to avoid it. You throw a single energy blast his way, and charge as he moves to avoid it, kicking the side of his head and sending him flying. He manages to flip in the air and land on his feet, though he does slide a short distance.Grinding his teeth together, he brings his right arm back, and throws a powerful blast of energy your way. You quickly leap over it and fly right towards him, landing behind him. He begins to turn, and you jump, kicking him in the side and knocking him away.He lets out a frustrated yell, punching the ground before getting to his feet, charging towards you recklessly.>A. Tell him to calm down, he fights badly when he lets himself get too angry>B. Go on the defensive>C. Take advantage of his recklessness, give him a good beating and end this fight
>>37235339>C. Take advantage of his recklessness, give him a good beating and end this fightShow, don't tell.
>>37235339>A. Tell him to calm down, he fights badly when he lets himself get too angry
>>37235339>A. Tell him to calm down, he fights badly when he lets himself get too angry"Vegeta does the same thing, if you wana beat him you have to keep your self calm and use his rage against him"
write in: counter a wild attack with a throw and tell him that if he loses his temper he'll always lose
>>37235339>>C. Take advantage of his recklessness, give him a good beating and end this fight
>>37235339AIt gives your opponent an advantage. Vegeta gets the same way, this can give you an advantage over him.
>>37235339>C. Take advantage of his recklessness, give him a good beating and end this fightCalling it now there's a full moon out Git yo butts ready
>>37235339>C beat him and then tell him his anger got in the way, punks like Nappa need to learn with action first
>>37235339>A. Tell him to calm down, he fights badly when he lets himself get too angryWash away one bad habit at a time
>>37235370Second this, might get him to start acting less vegetaish
>>37235339>>A. Tell him to calm down, he fights badly when he lets himself get too angrywere training him not killing him.
>>37235339>A. Tell him to calm down, he fights badly when he lets himself get too angry.
>>37235339A. Keep your cool Nappa.
>>37235339Do >C.while saying >A.
>>37235339CShow, don't tell.
>>37235384Earth still has no moon. It hasn't been wished back. Which raises the question, how the hell hasn't Master Roshi's island been flooded?
>>37235339"Don't get angry at your limits, push past them!"
>>37235423Capsule Corp or one of the other genius scientists must have found a way to keep the tides in check.
>>37235443True, the moon got destroyed how many times?
>>37235384>Calling it now there's a full moon outWe had to start this at night. We just had to.
>>37235456or"Don't get angry at your limits, push past... THEM!"
>>37235443Earth has a lot of super science in DBZ. If they ever put their backs into making zenkai-powered weaponry, humanity would be a galactic terror.
>>37235423Man I miss the Moon. He was a pretty cool guy. Plus if he was here Nappa could teach Gohan how to control his were-ape form a well as Goku if and when his tail comes back.Come back to us moon pls
>>37235477OH no! Now he's go a PL of 45,000! We're still almost 200 times stronger than Ooozaru Nappa.
>>37235516We can probably swing that. Besides there's always the false moon thing since they rely on Brutis waves or some such more than moonlight.
>>37235370I like thisNappa's a very angry man. If we can get him to focus that anger into something constructive then he could become really powerful
>>37235542He wouldn't be able to... believe it!
>>37235516If you wish upon a ball...Doesn't matter if you're tall...A big damn dragon will grant youOne of your dreams; it will come true.
>>37235563you should feel ashamed for that
>>37235544I wonder if we could use blutz waves to power up our Saiyans....Totally not like the way Bulma did it, no way...
>>37235556>>37235370We can use this line after the fight, when everyone has calmed down. It'll hit close to home, and probably be helpful.
>>37235563To be fair, it's been like that since we realized that's basically the perfect technique for us.Also, only Freezia found us annoying.
>>37235592I'm sorry. Not really.
>>37235516All in favour of bringing MoonBro back?
>>37235350>>37235366>>37235380>>37235384>>37235387>>37235416>>37235417>>37235436Nappa's recklessness is his own fault, and you think it's time to teach him a lesson about being blinded by anger.You charge at Nappa, easily avoiding his clumsy hits, and kick him in the gut. You step back and fire off a series of energy blasts, then charge and kick Nappa in the chin.An idea forms, and you jump back one more time, putting a good amount of distance between yourself and Nappa this time.You rush towards him, closing your eyes and picturing a wolf running as you do so. You direct your energy to your hands while still keeping it inside your body."WOLF FANG FIST!" you shout as you reach Nappa.You strike with a series of punches, kicks, and clawing attacks that batter the Saiyan warrior, who can't even seem to defend himself. Once you're satisfied, you finish your assault with a double-palmed strike that throws Nappa away and knocks him on his back.>That's it for tonightNext update should be Thursday, Friday, or SaturdayI'll answer questions for a while
>>37235666So are you going to do a thread before Future trunks arrives in which we play as future kaguya in future trunks timeline during the events before both gohan and kaguya die?
>>37235666Thanks for running!Is Nappa horribly wounded?
>>37235666how salty is nappa right now
>>37235685I do plan a future Kaguya thread, yes.>>37235688He's badly hurt, but not crippled. He'll be sore for a few days>>37235689You're gonna have to calm him down or knock him out next thread.
>>37235666Well done DRALO, I spent the past two days reading through the archive and I'm glad I finally caught up. Can't wait for more.
>>37235666What is Nappa's power level, currently? Wasn't it said that he benefitted from a Zenkai, after he was revived?If not, what will his power level be after he heals up from this bout of training?
>>37235666I wonder if Nappa can get much more powerful.Or if he can actually mellow out a bit really.I think Freiza kept the Saiyans running around like they did, in the attack balls, simply to prevent them from getting any down time, for training.With proper training it appears they can hit the 100k range with work.Somehow I bet Vegeta being older then Goku has less life experience since he was stuck in that attack ball for almost ear long missions.
>>37235666Is Dodoria still alive, or did we kill him with his own blast? We couldn't sense him, but never saw him get blown up.Does Gohan have a tail currently?
>>37235666Thanks for QMing.Can we draw out these four and a half years pretty long? Like, room for SPACE ADVENTURE and filler arcs/movies. And especially having time to do whatever in the universe might be a good change of pace from just going through the normal arcs of DBZ for a while.Also, training Nappa is pointless, ain't it?
>>37235740Nappa just needs his own little cannabis garden.
>>37235666What was the dream sequence about? If it was just dealing through Kaguya's new found trauma it might have been better to curtail some of it honestly. I was hoping we'd at least get to training the farm kids today. About how long does it take for us to start getting weaker if we don't push ourselves?I had one that felt really pertinent but forgot it like two hours ago. Hate when that happens.
>>37235720I'm glad to hear that, anon.>>37235724When he heals it should probably be between 8,000 and 10,000>>37235746Piccolo killed himYes>>37235751Thanks for playingI have plenty of arcs planned for the next few years, yes.And not necessarily
>>37235718>I do plan a future Kaguya thread, yes.Hope Future Trunks still exists, he was a pretty cool character to just write out.
>>37235788I request a trip to one of Yamcha's games filled with shenanigans. I hope we have time to hang with just about everyone in thread at one point or another before a serious threat pops back up.
>>37235788>Gohan has his tail stillThank Kami there is no moon right now.
>>37235788We doubled Nappa's power? In one session? Fucking christ. I thought our magic training mojo only worked on humans.
>>37235788Would there be benefits for bringing the moon back and taming the wild Oozaru inside of Gohan and maybe Goku if his rail comes back?
>>37235788What is the physical range on our Multiform technique?For example, could we split ourselves up to train with all the Z fighters, Nappa, our friends and have at least one left to help with the farm?
>>37235835We exhausted him, bruised him good. He will get a Zenkai + training bonus.
>>37235781The dream sequence is for you to interpret. I will say that it was a manifestation of stress and trauma, but Kaguya was also supposed to learn from it.A few monthsMe too>>37235818Me too, anon. Me too.>>37235827You'll probably start training your friends next thread. And a trip to Yamcha's ballgame could happen.>>37235835Zenkai from beating the shit out of him>>37235837Well, I mean, having a controlled 10 times power boost is beneficial.>>37235828You're welcome>>37235847No, you can't go too far from each copy.
>>37235851He's getting his entire lifetime's worth of power increase after one fight. That is magic no matter which way you cut it.
>>37235835>>37235871It's like he said, he had never really been challenged up until us after working for Frieza. Zenkai boosts are really substantial until they hit a limit, like they did for Vegeta in the Frieza saga.
>>37235871DBZ was always magic training mojo bullshit. You knew that.
One of our trips over to the Son residence should consist of formal martial arts training. Power's great and all but having the finesse and discipline to consistently strike where we need to makes a world of difference.
>>37235861What happens if a Super Sayian goes Oozaru?
>>37235861>Well, I mean, having a controlled 10 times power boost is beneficial.They could wish back Goku's tail too. SSJ is far superior however.>>37235892Zenkai slows up at about 4 million I think? And almost impossible to push much past 6-10 million? Of course Cell tournament Goku master SSJ, where he could be in it almost all time, so even 10mil was like 500mil actual power.Then you need to go SSJ and other forms to go from there. >>37235892I wonder if Frieza knew of the Zenkai. Probably why he had them wiped out. If they could go ape with a 2-4milion power level a dozen of them would be a threat to Frieza.>>37235920We are at least getting that from Nappa. We are so much stronger we are using it to learn fighting more.Nappa is a good fighter if he can control his rage.
>>37235861Is there any way we will be able to push ourselves or are we fucked till Metal Freezia and King Cold get her?Damn, Vegeta better go Supes soon...
>>37235920Yeah learning some Son sect Turtle style Karate would be nice. Though truth be told that stuff probably won't matter much. We've been fighting and adapting to the greatest martial artists the earth has ever seen for over a year, it's highly likely that our natural style looks pretty refined to a martial artist observer.
>>37235959True, but I'd hardly consider Nappa the pinnacle of martial discipline.
>>37235953No idea. I feel like the reason Toriyama just had Trunks and Goten not have tails is so he wouldn't have to figure that out.>>37235959Yeah, but there are currently no Super Saiyans in your group>>37235972Gravity training, training in general.
>>37235959He had them wiped out because the legend of the super saiyans passed down through his family after one of his space pirate ancestors got killed by a time traveling super saiyan Bardock.Yes, that is confusing.
>>37235995I just figured they had their tails removed shortly after birth since they're more hindrance than benefit especially with no moon.
>>37235981We should have Master Roshi watch us fight and comment on our technique.
>>37235981Well to give credit where credit is due, our farmboy guesswork did annihilate the most powerful tyrant in the universe.
>>37235972>Is there any way we will be able to push ourselves or are we fucked till Metal Freezia and King Cold get her?Goku.Multi form when he goes x5-x10 kaio Ken.Otherwise, we can't get much.Ironically we smoked Nappa so most of the fear/hate that the Z fighters had of him no longer exists.
>>37235995>Toriyama just had Trunks and Goten not have tails is so he wouldn't have to figure that outThis is the obvious reason, but I've always headcanoned that half saiyans aren't guaranteed to have a tail, and that most don't. Gohan was just really lucky.
>>37236028Possibly.>>37236036Yup, you kicked his ass.
>>37235861We need to have Grandpa Kami help us through our newfound PTSD. Then help Gohan through his since he probably has some too. We should climb Korin's tower just as a formality one day.
>>37236036To be fair, it was done in typical DBZ style, energy attacks, not through superior fighting style/technique.
>>37235995>gravity trainingAww yeah, I forgot about that! We need to set aside at least one session where we fight out mutliformed self at a ridiculous gravity setting.
>>37236074Might be cool
>>37236083And we're taking Gohan too. Bye.
>>37236075>farmboy guessworkThis 'ere opossum a mean 'un, gotta git me the bigger shotgun.
>>37236086If we hadn't had blitzed Frieza once he decided "Fuck this Full Power Now." would we have survived long enough to close the gap, or was 85 million the highest we could have obtained without dieing on Namek?
>>37236114You might have gotten slightly stronger, but you still most likely would have gotten slaughtered.
>>37236127And then immediately brought back to life to see Goku go SSJ.
>>37236127As in how he toyed with Goku giving Goku enough time to charge the spirit bomb or as in flat out death finger beams
>>37236150If he powers to one hundred percent, he's done fucking around.
>>37236150I'm guessing flat out death beams. He was pissed with us by that point.
>>37236127If we asked Kami and Enma for permission/assistance could we visit King Kai without dieing? Since goku and the others were able to stay on his planet for a while even while alive and traverse snake way without worry. It would be nice to give him a thank you present for the help (but nothing to nice since he didn't word the wish better) and we're probably the only one to think of giving a living god a gift for being a bro.
>>37236172So it just be a gambit of us trying to stay alive barely and using Vegeta as smokescreen and getting dende to heal us
>>37236179If went 100%, he woulda gotten hit by the spirit bomb, come back and then insta gibbed us and then Vegeta.Then turned to see Goku go SSJ
>>37236172Would the Spirit Bomb have been ready by the time he reached 100%?
>>37236209Either ready or just about, but it wouldn't have been enough to kill him.>>37236198Probably not.
>>37236179It was probably the Super Human reveal (the nah serious brah we aren't even joking part anyway) where he decided he was finsihed fucking around. If we had kept it cool we might have lured him into playing more especially if we started rope a doping a bit after he powered up.
>>37236209Spirit bomb didn't even kill normal-final-form Frieza.
>>37236231Goku was stronger than he was in canon, so was Krillin, plus Krillin, Piccolo, and Gohan were at full health and could have given more energy to the it.>>37236223I'm guessing the Taihouki combo with it wouldn't have worked either.
>>37236223So if the spirit bomb did work and we got to the part where everyone was celebrating frieza's supposed death, who would have been the first to get shot by his death beam and who would he have chosen to blow up?
I forget, will we get Metal Freezia to fight later on, or did Vegeta just energy blast barrage his barely breathing, sliced in half body into dust?
>>37236341He wasn't brought back by the wish, though it happened before he finished his Galick Gun, so there is a chance he is dead as fuck.
>>37236282I'm pretty sure he'd have hit us with the death beam while our guard was down since I doubt he could blow us up. Dende probably would have been 'sploded if he saw him heal at any point, if not then maybe Gohan. Though he may have just settled for death beams for us, Vegeta and Piccolo. >>37236377Yeah it was left a mystery deliberately. Admittedly Vegeta put enough power in the Galick Gun to crack the fucking planet so presumably a defenseless Frieza is in at least as bad shape as in canon, but more likely he's dead.
>>37236514I hope this means that King Cold Cooler come instead and that King Cold won't be all caught off gaurd by Trunk and have time to transform.Basically, fuck the cop out, let's have a fight!
>>37236538The scary thing is we'll probably need to fight full power King Cold in order to be anywhere near ready for the Android and Cell Sagas. If Cooler is with King Cold then I don't think Trunks will be able to punk them, since Cooler seems far less likely to fuck around. I'm worried about earth surviving the battle though. It would be nice if that battle gets filmed like the Saiyan and Cell fights were. We might end up getting and Audience with the King of Earth.
>>37236606Does anyone ever at any point give a single shit about the King of Earth?I'd rather have an audience with Hercule
>>37236538>>37236606If this happens we need to multiform x2 bum rush them holding Destructo Discs. Might be the best option to beat them.
>>37236643Nah, man the King is a chill dude and even recognizes Goku as the guy who keeps saving the world while Mr. Satan is still in his bullshitting everyone phase. Besides, if we meet the King we can use that to start overhauling Earth's military without wasting time overthrowing the old government.>>37236652We can at least learn the Destructo Sword. Holding the discs seems like a good way to lose an arm or get Frieza'd. Besides we need them to power level.
>>37236736>Destructo SwordStart with making a long, thin Destructo Disk. A Destructo Ellipse, really. Work on keeping it close to our hand, and eventually we'll be able to swing it around. Think power sword from Halo, not actual arming sword.As far as whoring Destructo techniques, I still like the idea of a cylindrical Kamehameha with a laticework of Destructo inside.
>>37236788How about a Destructo Dodon? A Dodon ray with a Destructo Disc at the leading edge? If we work with it enough to keep it around after it has extended a long enough way we could turn it into a Destructo Whip.
>>37236788Lets mix the Taikou and Kamehameha
>>37236859I was thinking of that as well. We need to get the Taikouki to the point where it isn't a technique that automatically knocks us out though.Truth be told though the Taihouki doesn't mix well with other techniques because any energy spent on the other technique just ends up making it weaker since it uses all of our energy at once. If we could convert it into punching power without losing all the energy though that may be useful.
We gotta get Chiaotzu, Krillin, Nappa and Gohan (if his mom lets him) into a gravity training capsule. We gotta get them up to the ~500,000 that Tien and Yamcha have.
>>37237575We should ask Dr. Briefs to build us a full on danger room type training facility, complete with multiple gravity chambers as well as large very sturdy gravity enhanced arena for multiple combatants to train in. Have some of the chambers set up to switch gravity randomly for an even more intense workout. We might want to go jack a healing pod for them to reverse engineer if he agrees to it though.
I have an idea.How about a technique that converts the energy trail we leave while flying into seeking ki blasts?Also, we should look into streamlining the solar flare, it would be so much more useful if it could be used one handed and without calling it out.
>>37237575Fucking fund it! And when we need to push ourselves, we just multiform and fight ourselves.
>>37240240You remind me that I want a DBZ character with invisible ki mines. Well, that or a DBZ equivalent to Gundam bits/funnels.
>>37237757I think that kind of tech is way to advanced for Earth right now.We should stick to what got us so far. Namely magic. We should ask Kami at the lookout if we can do the pendulum room again, or if there's other training facilities there that we can use. Hint hint.
>>37240345How about a kinetic shockwave attack?Or a spear made out of ki?Ki-based radar/echolocation?Specialised ki blast that you can shoot up in the air and detonates as a solar flare?
>>37240854Aren't all ki attacks kinetic shockwave? I don't think they 're actual fireballs like a hadouken, they're just kinetic energy projected in blasts. Like Cyclops' punch beams from the punch dimension. Totally seconding that ki flashbang though.
>>37241292>ki flashbangHearing it described like this has got me thinking, what does it take to properly disorient a ki fighter? Could we make a technique to mess with ki sensing?
>>37241738That's another thing we should ask Kami about. I mean he taught us to surpress our power, maybe he can teach us some other neat tricks with it.
>>37241292>>37241738>ki flashbangYou mean Solar Flare? He have that and it is awesome.
>>37242192Yes, but we still have to be all up in their grill for it to work. I mean something that we could throw at someone from afar. Blind them with a flare bomb and then snipe them with an energy disk or a dodonpa before they even know who or what hit them.
>>37242192Yes, but they were discussing using a throwable ki blast, so it'd work as an actual flashbang
>>37242315Multiform and chuck ki flashbangs at someone in a stream. Blind them forever.
>>37244279Develop solar flare eye beams, win every fight ever.
Nappa better teach us the mouth laser trick. It would be useful if we are restrained. Besides him teaching us stuff would make him feel good about himself too.
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>37235666Is there a pastebin for this? I want to read the whole thing from the beginning.
>>37248180It's all on Sup/tg/ http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=DBZ
>>37240345>Gundam funnelshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUU2UxERkGEYou mean these things?Look badass, though I'm not sure how they'd translate to DBZ. I guess mutliform sort of fufils the role, but they aren't tiny enough,
>>37248692We just need to take the lessons learned from creating energy attacks from our mouth, eyes, feet, etc. and apply the concept of energy attacks to the area around us, basically creating energy blasts that originiate from our aura at first. Then eventually after we've learned Yamcha's Spirit Ball we make a variant that flies around and shoots Dodon like rays at the opponent before running low on energy and slamming itself into them. If we get our energy control up high enough we might even be able to make a Spirit "Bit" like that, that then turns into a Destructo Disc once it runs out of excess energy.To get there we should try greatly improving our mastery over:>Energy Sensing >Energy Control>The Spirit Ball>Multiform>Destructo Disc>Dodon Ray>Hands Free Energy Attacks>Combining AttacksThat with all the other stuff we want to work on should keep us busy for these next four years easily.
>>37248866>suicide bomber destructo disc bitsI like the way you think, anon.
>>37248866http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Dodon_Blasthttp://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dodon_BarrageChiaotzu has some refined versions of the Dodon Ray I hope he can teach up.
I would not mind learning this http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/100x_Big_Bang_Kamehameha