Disney Villains Victorious is a /tg/ homebrew project based on the idea of a world, not entirely unlike our own, in which all the villains from all the Disney animated feature films were not defeated at the ends of their movies but were instead victorious, completing their goals in part or in whole.It is a world in which Ursula rules the seas, defied only by the uncatchable Pirate Lords, the cutthroat merchants of the East India Trading Company and the might of Atlantis and its magitech-toting mercenaries. It is a world where the grasslands and jungles and forests are prowled not only by fearsome primal beasts like Shere Kahn and Scar but also by the ruthless, tireless hunters that stalk them. It is a world where Europe has been divvied up between evil sorcerous monarchs like Maleficent, the Horned King, Grimhilde and Jafar, mad, inquisitorial clergymen like Frollo, and Dark Gods like Hades and Chernobog.It is not, however, a world completely devoid of courage, heroism or hope. Around the world, the PCs' characters and their allies plot and plan, fight and strive and win their own victories against the villains that would rule them. The time to fight and to be free is now.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorioushttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious
>>37200257King/Land/Rule: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_K/L/RsAdventurer's Almanac: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kI-I-ClcaZc4YPFQzmExOxfqzHAsLOkqLnKufm9Ty5c/edit?pli=1Fluff Catalogue: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qj_IIuF_rqh_F2L-SeYn-dBiwDTtwWFpnbcXyfcgeE8/editSong Catalogue: (google doc) 1oQniqbLaTCF7V19fnXP0_zUW7GFr3ESziGM6U5mEcC0/editRumour Mill: (google doc) 17CzFrAblibwD__7sEYorqXSz4ILYVp1O4tcQ-mGyYiI/edit?usp=sharingVillain Immortality: http://pastebin.com/kA1wsUzVNational Anthems: http://pastebin.com/Gd9rETxbDTP in the West Story Archive: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ONQ38zlRwgmM90MMkENcmSZhsIhN4r1O0KqxdQn3GKs/editDVV Art Gallery: http://imgur.com/a/1zduaDTP Art Gallery: http://imgur.com/a/iawzwDVV: Dridlock Art Gallery: http://imgur.com/a/s1g3bTRAITS: http://pastebin.com/DsdEgCccPOWERS:http://pastebin.com/pQDDqisUSetting Traits: http://pastebin.com/8RRbwMQTBeast Species:http://pastebin.com/iPGVax1AChimera Races: http://pastebin.com/B8SkUwWB (Out of date, needs to be updated)Experimental new rules for Yzmic Chimeras http://pastebin.com/p2QaTaiBGoogle doc for character creation:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m8XSm73Ea4ECdDdP9V4IVJCEBji6HPw43LRPyUCDmx4/edit?usp=sharingFirst Playtest: http://pastebin.com/Vy1E0sHBSecond playtest:http://pastebin.com/qE1kW0YYThird playtest: http://pastebin.com/sWj8Y87vFourth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/SHieN5zLFifth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/TGctR8VASixth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/8wUw2LegSeventh Playtest: http://pastebin.com/ygcRPBzfFirst Campaign Session: http://pastebin.com/Ne7SpFMJSecond Campaign Session: http://pastebin.com/2hbsDP74Third and Fourh Campaign Sessions: http://pastebin.com/cY8TLN0zFifth Campaign Session: http://pastebin.com/v2s3s1viPlaytests are hosted here; https://app.roll20.net/join/601097/mEiDCAMagic IRC is hosted on Mibbit, network is AsyloIRC, room is #DVVmagic
>>37200257Thanks for starting the new thread! I was just going to start a new thread myself but you beat me to it. It's hard to keep contributing in meaningful ways while at work.
>>37200370Th gave me almost no end of problems getting this one up, kept telling me my captcha was wrong despite giving the check to indicate otherwise. I figured I'd post up a new thread before work also If you want a solid way of contributeong we can always use more powers and traits eBen sort of 'out there' ideas are welcome since they can be refined by everyone
>>37200420Good idea:>Gravity FallsI Want to Believe:Receive +2 to Academics, Science or Occult while investigating the paranormal. Other characters receive +2 in attempts to Persuade and Deceive your character with regards to the supernatural.Damn Fine Cup of Coffee:Whenever the character has access to coffee or another signature consumable (a candy bar, a beer, etc.), they may sit down with it and have a good think, granting +3 to Insight.Who Killed Laura Palmer?:This character may choose a single mystery or question to claim as their obsession. All skill checks performed in direct pursuit of the truth behing this mystery receive +2.Secret Keeper:Receive +1 to Deception and +1 to Endure. Choose one particular, personal secret to keep and receive +3 Deceit while trying to keep it a secret, but -3 to Enduring that secret once it is exposed.More to come, hopefully.
Slow day it seems, I'm at work so my posting is limited, those traits seem pretty interesting I like the coffee one especially, could work as a generic trait even
>>37203227>>37203154It s a little slow, and I'm also at work so my posting isn't as fast or frequent as I would like.Even though I like to create Traits and powers that are tied thematically to different Lands, I would say that a lot of them could be used more widely, provided it fit the character.>WALL-ERobot Buddy:This character gains +3 to Persuasion while interacting with Robots, Computers and A.I. units. This bonus does not apply to Programs on the Grid or Game Characters.Wastelander:This character gains +4 to Endure while surviving in harsh, post-apocalyptic conditions.Fatty Fat Fatty:This character's nimbleness rating cannot surpass four, but they are are instead granted +5 to Prevent Harm.Eco-Friendly:This character is granted +2 to any action taken to directly help the ecosystem.Scavenger:This character is granted +3 to Insight while searching for sustenance, shelter or supplies.
I asked last thread if Detroit Deluxe and Motorcity were workable for Gridlocked. Opinions?
>>37204459I've never heard of those. I'll have to take a look before I can answer you.
>>37204459Not seen this series, but I just read it up on wiki and looked on google image search, and from what I've seen, I'd say this definitely fits the general feel of Gridlocked, so my own answer would be yes.
>>37204772>>37204828It was a really good show and fits the theme. Like most good shows, it was cancelled too soon.We might have to move Tempest Tower though.
>>37204925Honestly I'd Ben wanting to move Tempest Tower as it is in order to give the Axiom a proper landing site. We know from the movie that it touches down at a BnL landing facility in a city that once had a big harbor, so we should try to find a suitable site in Gridlock and center the BUY n' LARGE Wasteland around it.Going to take a look at those shows now too.
Would anyone mind if I put the Razoul I stated up as a Villain for Jafar a couple of threads ago on the wiki? No one seemed to have any problems with it.
>>37205612Go right ahead. Is there a trait and power catalogue on the 1d4chan? It would be a nice addition.
>>37204997I went with Detroit.
>>37205858I remember that discussion and it was a good decision. There might possibly be a few more properties in the mix that would need to take place in Detroit though.
>>37205612I have finished adding Razoul to the wiki
>>37207645Thanks for this!
Working on a new edition of the map. Give it a few minutes.
Changes:>Colored in ocean>Made the dimensions of picture smaller>Redid text>Updated legend>Added KaneCo and Detroit DeluxeHow does it look?
>>37210497It's looking good so far! I like it!
>>37204459After taking a look, Detroit Deluxe and Motorcity DEFINITELY fit in with the themes of Gridlock.
So Doctor Doofenshmirtz and the Gargoyles are in Utah?What's the reasoning behind that? What are we thinking of happening there?
>>37212591The Gargoyles are in New York City and Xanatos has claimed the northern Eastern Seaboard.
>>37212635My bad, I was just looking at the grey. So the CLU Terminals and Tron are in Salt Lake City?
>>37212754If I remember right, CLU has made several breakthroughs into the real world, and has a number of terminals and holdfasts scattered around the country.
I think we should start tossing some ideas around, and seeing what sticks. We should also try and decide what kind of theme were doing, and what the end game is going to be. But, we should prioritize making new ideas, new scenarios, and most importantly, new fluff.
>>37210497I thought the AXIOM was in Detroit...
>>37213838I've been helping there.
>>37216931It had been per your KLR, but there's a new potential Disney property to be included, which sort of skews things a bit.
>>37218317I guess i'll edit the Wiki and move it to Toronto.
>>37218334>dumping that crazyass mofo in my neck of the woods
What if the AXIOM was constantly moving? It makes stops throughout the Wasteland to pick people up and make repairs, but it can't go back to space because of Zurg and space pirates.
>>37218975I don't know about it flying around.
I found the old KLR for David Xanatos. It's going to need some fixing up to fit in Gridlocked.>King: David Xanatos – All according to plan.>For all appearances, Xanatos is merely a normal (if exorbitantly wealthy) man who controls a single city with a small but well respected army. Yet he wields power all out of proportion to his humble appearances. His supposed master, Govenor Radcliffe, allows him almost total autonomy and consults him on all important decisions, Doctor Facilier is said to owe at least two big favors, Queen Maleficient is rumored to bow and curtsey to him, and even Ultrapowerful entities like the Firebird have been seen inexplicably altering their paths to avoid destroying him or his projects, although none of these things can be definitively proven. >Land: New York city – Crossroads of the world>New York is accorded neutral territory, recognized by all world powers (at least the ones capable of rational thought). Representatives from the various empires can often be seen near the rebuilt United Nations building. Peace in this diverse environment is strictly enforced by the hulking Gargoyles- some are flesh and blood, some are wholly Robotic, and some are power armored humans, but all utterly devoted to Xanatos. >It also boasts a technology level second only to Atlantis, and its lucky citizens enjoy a standard of living most normal people of the Villains Victorious world can only dream of, with numerous luxuries like running water, electricity and air conditioning commonly available.
>>37219672>Rule: Xanatos is a merchant first and foremost and will be receptive to any deal or trade that benefits him in some way, and by the time he finises discussing a deal it will usually benefit him. He seeks immortality for himself and will do and pay much for even a small clue to attaining it, but is also deeply concerned for his city and its citizens and will not do anything that puts them at risk.>Players on good terms with Xanatos will have a reliable place to buy information, sell artifacts, or arrange meetings with even the most powerful individuals. Players on bad terms with Xanatos will find the difficulty of their journey multiplied as supplies become scarce, neutral groups become hostile and even staunch allies have their power or loyalty undermined. >Xanatos cannot be defeated directly and all outcomes of any situation he is involved in leave him at least as well off as when he started. Examples: if the players “kill” him, his corpse is discovered to be a robotic duplicate designed to study their abilities; if the players convince him to attack a mutual enemy they will find his army already prepped and ready to go; if the players steal a powerful magic item from him it will turn out to belong to the Horned king, who will stop at nothing to get it back; and so on.
>>37219692>>37219672Thanks for recovering this. I'llSee what I can find but today is going to be rough.
Damn is it slow. My lunch hour's nearly here so I'll see if I can't write or brainstorm something up.
I've got a bit of a mini-story in mind that would feature our WALL-E and Gravity Falls sample characters, so hopefully I can get something written for a little later on today.
>>37222340>our wall-e and gravity falls sample characters Our fucking who? One char sheet has been posted.On a similar note, I really want to see more DTP. I miss drawfaggotry and writefaggotry of the group's adventures and misadventures. All that stuff about Sverd and Mary was great.
>>37222483Several threads ago a WALL-E sample character was drawn up and a Gravity Falls character was statted out, and then a lot of good but aimless discussion happened. There's not been a lot of talk about sample characters or writing for some time, so I thought I might try to flesh out some of the bare bones we do have. I don't mean to be presumptuous.I'd also like to see more of our Classic DTP group.
>>37222483Fiona Fisherman and Wilson Robins, there's also Maliwan (the Charming alien), the unnamed super (Nimble) and a sanfran slumdog with a cybernetic arm (Smarts)
>>37222747>>37222701>>37222483Right now they've only been mentioned in passing by different Anons and there hasn't been much in the way of writing or drawing with the exception of a great drawing of a combat Fatty from the Axiom and a character reference or three. We might be putting the cart before the horse though in trying to make sample characters before some of the harder decisions and the majority of the fluff have been made for the Gridlock setting.
Heres a pastebin of the two allies(that I know of) for Base DVV, Ice Anna and Clarisse the Beast. If I remember correctly they are not on the wikim since neither is really likely to end up a villain. Also my writeup for playable dwarves ended up on the paste somehow.
>>37223022http://pastebin.com/rHRCC3CbActually posting the link would probably have been useful.
>>37223045>>37223022Thank you for scouring the threads for this information!
>>37223022Somewhere, Mulan the Undying has also been statted out as well. I think Nob did it within the first 20 threads.
>>37223443He did? If nobody else goes digging for her before I get home I'll search for her and put her on the list. Saves me some work since i was trying to make her myself
bump because reasons
Please tell me we've gotten up the last three hunters and some villains in my absence, at least.
>>37228617Well I've got Amos almost completely statted (what were his primary and secondary supposed to be?), and I've brainstormed a few things for McLeach.
>>37228836>>37228617Do you need any assistance?
>>37229746If you can remember any good lines from either character, that would be helpful.
>>37228836Do we have Joanna the Goanna? I doubt it since we did not even have McLeah until you started but I feel like I remember something about her being posted once. Also I am home now so it is time to dig up Mulan's corpse.
>>37230835https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U6oqFCE440I found some clips of McLeach online.
Found her!Mulan.Sensible GuyHero TierHuman, MediumROBUSTNESS: 10/16Agility: 14/16Intelligence: 8/16Sensibility: 16/16Charm: 10/16Skills:Athletics 4Acrobatics 5Melee 6Ranged 4Endure 5Prevent Harm 5Persuasion 5Deceive 4Intimidate 4Travel 4Music (Singing) 4Insight 6Occult 4Traits:Against the Living!: Like all Undead, Mulan subconsciously thirsts for the death of the living. Unlike most undead, Mulan is still sapient and can repress this urge. When in a stressful situation with living beings, she must succeed on a TN 25 Sensibility+Insight roll or be forced to attack them for at least two Rounds. She receives a +2 bonus when making Melee rolls against living characters, though.Make a Man Out Of You: Mulan receives a +2 to Persuasion to teach military skills.To Defeat The Huns: Mulan receives +2 against any roll opposing a person of Hunnic allegiance.“Helpful” Ancestors: Mulan may roll twice on Occult/Academics/Science/Insight and take the better result.Powers:Who I Am Inside: Mulan may use Persuasion in the place of music.It Will Not Die: If defeated Mulan rises again in 6 hours in a random spot in China. She also regenerates 1 Strike a round.For the Motherland!: When Mulan arises in 6 hours, she may attempt to raise fallen Chinese soldiers on battlefields or in graveyards. This process takes five minutes. If there is a body, it rises and takes whatever has on it's person. If only ashes remain, the soldier appears as a spectre which is nonetheless a physical creature. She will do this until there are a hundred soldiers under her command. Equipment:Spear: +2 to Melee rolls.Dragon Cannon: +2 to Ranged rollsHeavy Armor: Mulan wears lacquered plate armor. + 3 to Prevent Harm, -10 meters of movement speed.Ideals:KILL HUNS KILL HUNSHelp peasantsProtect Ancestral Shrines.Goals:Personally kill Shan YuTopple the Hunnic EmpireRestore the spirits to their rightful placeDie, for goodSee a Chinese Emperor on the throne.
>>37231521>KILL HUNS KILL HUNSThis gave me a laugh. It looks good, as I remember it. As I recall, we had a few pieces of fluff and a few songs written for Mulan the Undying, but it would have been nice to have been able to have something more substantial from her point of view, or maybe from the point of view of a new recruit in her army.>>37230835It's been forever and a half since I last saw either one of their films. I may have to do some research.I just want to add also, that though the holiday lull seems to have gotten to us, that I'm still glad to be working on this project with you all.
>>37231496>neither the boy nor McLeach sound like rural AussiesI know Disney isn't big on things like 'realism' and 'accuracy', but damn son. Unfortunately, similar searches on Slade don't turn up shit. I do have F&H on VHS, though. Wonder if that VCR's still in working order.....
>>37222747>>37222483>>37222701>>37222340Wow, guys, hold up. We should better establish the setting first before we start going about making characters
>>37233451A few sample characters were made up as a way to pass the time during the holiday lull. Now that things are hopefully ramping back up, we can flesh out the setting and revisit them afterward to see if they work.
Come in, lets get those last three hunters done.
>>37237047By the by, what traits combo did we decide for fergus and mcleach
>>37231521>Against the Living!: Like all Undead, Mulan subconsciously thirsts for the death of the living. Unlike most undead, Mulan is still sapient and can repress this urge. When in a stressful situation with living beings, she must succeed on a TN 25 Sensibility+Insight roll or be forced to attack them for at least two Rounds. She receives a +2 bonus when making Melee rolls against living characters, though.Am I the only one who thinks this is dumb as fuck? If she's supposed to be animated by the ancestor spirits, she would effectively have the same attitude toward humans as Mushu, not some grimderp rip of the 3.pf rule of "all undead have an evil alignment"
I haven't been following this project that much, and I was wondering where Syndrome fit into all this?
>>37239634Syndrome is being included in the expansion to DVV as a King, in base DVV he does not exist as base DVV goes about as far as Atlantis in terms of timeline.>>37239285It seems to be mostly a formality on her, an urge she HAS but generally wont fall to as she has a Sense 16+ Insight 6 for a +22 bonus on I think 5d6k3... which with ANY roll actually means she passes since the TN is 25 so even if a DM pumped up the TN on particularly stressful situations she would still be greatly favored to pass on anything below probably TN35 essentially equating that trait to a +2 on melee attacks made against living characters(it should probably be Melee and Brawl in general since not all undead would be using weapons and I am unsure if this was written before Brawl was a thing.
>>37239682>>37239285It does seem to be mostly a formality of her Undead status and perhaps indicative of a slight awkwardness or peevishness when interacting with the living.Maybe I ought to try and write something up from her perspective. We need more fluff in this thread of any sort, Classic DVV or Gridlock. I've just been suffering from some post-holidays exhaustion. I need to get back into gear and start really contributing again.
>>37239634Still a supervillain, CEO of a big company that sells off superpower gadgets to those who can afford them, in a covert arms race with Big Hero 6's Callaghan over superhero tech because Callaghan is a sneaky bastard and is also in the superhero tech business, though instead of henchmen he keeps around his most gifted students to knock shit around if he doesn't want to put on the mask and start slamming people into walls with waves of microbots.
>>37239016Fergus was definitely a Strong Charming or a Strong Sensible. McLeach and Amos are bugging me, though. Yeah, they're good shots, but they're not particularly robust, smart or charming and aside from a few bursts of cunning and their tracking abilities they don't seem particularly sensible.
>>37200257leave /tg/ for a year, come back, see this.i need to get in on this.
>>37240628Please feel free to browse the archives and the resources in the OPs and ask any questions you want. I'll try to answer as best I am able.
>>37240454I kinda hope Hiero figured out what happened, and either formed his own megacorp that produces medabot like robots or took over the slums. Sort of a side villain
>>37240628Welcome friend, always nice to see new people interested in the project.
>>37205664No there is not, at least not on the main page. It would be a good addition though.
>>37241325There are some pasties in the second post though.
>>37241325Agreed. The Wiki page could use things like Trait and Power pages, sample character builds and a vague list of potential NPC allies.
>>37241410I was planning on using those, as soon as I figured out how to edit the wiki. Which is going to take a while.
>>37241427I'm not the best Wiki editor either.
>>37242374I still don't know how to do it
If I can manage a bit of writing, what would everyone like to see? Mulan? DTP Sidestory? Gridlock? I need to push myself to write again.
>>37243140DTP fluff is the most fun to read since they have such vibrant personalities and interactions, and we have quite a bit of Mulan fluff, but more is always wanted if you'd prefer that!
>>37243474I've got a few ideas for something DTP that I could try out. Thanks! Maybe I'll keep Mulan in mind for later. It's all a matter of getting motivated.
>>37245118>>37244560Thanks for bumping. I'm chugging along with the writing and I hope to have something to able to show you by evening.
I need to play this...
>>37245828It's all good buddy. I haven't really done anything to help since writing up Nemo, Al-Bahdros, and Mother Madeline, but if bumping helps, then bump I shall.
>>37246046If you do, be sure to return with tales of your exploits!
>>37246577i would love to. I love that mice are actually stated out and would love to see hoe they interact with the rest of the world.
>>37246855We tried to stat out as many potential animal characters as we could seeing as how talking animals and animal companions are such a big part of a lot of Disney films.
>>37247197how do they handle when alongside normal human sized characters? how does a mouse function in combat with non-mouse characters?
>>37247384Animal characters only get one trait at character creation, can't use normal equipment and can't speak to humans or other species unless they have at least one point in Linguistics, but they get an Attributes modifierand a series of powerful racial traits. The mouse trades physical strength and the natural weapons of other animals for sneakiness and a massive Agility bonus (+6 counting the bonus for Tiny size).~MiceSize: Tiny-Shiny things!: +2 to Legerdemain-Light-feet: +3 to Stealth where visual detection is an issue.-Deft Paws: 1 rank in Mechanics.Attributes Bonus: +2 Intelligence, -2 Robustness, +2 Agility
>>37247384If you're interested there was a rodent character in an otherwise all-humans party in the third playtest. Link is in the second post.
>>37247726An intelligent Guinea Pig, as I recall. With a top hat and a monocle.
>>37249691That's kinda really awesome
>>37249691flipped though that playtest. for a rodent paired up with normal humans it plays pretty well. exactly how i imagined it. now i'm wondering how it plays out with a melee or ranged focused rodent sized character. i need to know this.
I know that we may have jumped the gun several threads ago in starting to talk about sample characters while we were still fleshing out and fluffing up Gridlock as a setting, but I couldn't help myself.Here's a work-in-progress illustration of the Gravity Falls concept character that a /tg/ Drawfriend has been working on at my request.
>>37250753To my knowledge we haven't had one of those tested yet. Having a mousketeer would be pretty great though.
>>37252162if i get into one of the games i'll ask to play this.
>>37251511I like this character. It's a bonus that she fits the style of the show.
>>37240107>>37239682The point is that the ancestor spirits that animated her are not some sort of evil-aligned death spirits, but rather the benevolent spirits of hr fallen ancestors. Being a spirit in a body other than a living human, Mulan has more in common with Mushu or the other Ancestor Spirits than a lich from 3.pf, and trying to give her a "all undead are chaotic evil on some level" trait with no background in Disney.
>>37253050Might look weird in a combination picture with others though. All the DTP have been drawn in Disney Classic/Revival style which blends together really well. Having a lot of different styles could be jarring.Speaking of, where did drawfag hop off to? I really miss his drawings.
>>37253157>>37253050I hadn't specifically requested that she be drawn in the Gravity Falls style, but I think that Fiona's turning out really well in it. I think that it's fine for individual pictures in our "DVV Art Catalog" to be drawn in different styles, especially when those styles are reminiscent of the original source material. If she were featured alongside the Classic DTP characters or other modern characters, you can be sure though that she ought to be drawn in the same style as they are for consistency's sake.I've also been missing our resident Drawfriend, but I'm sure that he's been busy with his own affairs after the holidays.
>>37253157This picture is so great. I miss our artist as well.
Motorcity brainstorming time.>Only Detroit Deluxe matches Kane's vision of tomorrow. The rest of his 'area of influence' is Motorcity, the independent remains of old Michigan that survive in spite of Kane and his efforts.>The best cars come in and out of Motorcity. They can be seen either racing eachother underground or playing chicken with robots in the Wasteland.>KaneCo had recently announced plans to expand and create Chicago Deluxe, but they were canceled due to unusual circumstances not made public.
>>37255171I like it!
>>37255171>Alternatively, Kane has washed his hands of the rebels. He's already flushed out their leaders from under his utopia and broke their spirits. If the scattered bandits and hooligans want to stay out of his city, than he won't have to waste resources on their high speed antics anyway.
>>37255171How would Drossel and Kane react to each other? Also, Ideas for Drossel:>She constantly bothers other villains with randon attacks that seemingly appear and dissapear at will. Many claim that she has armies of machines buried across America, or that she holds the key to teleportation,but the truth is much stranger. She is one of the few villains aware of the grid, and one of the few with the necessary know how to use it. She can bring herself and small amounts of forces through the grid via sheer force of will and ego. Any where a data assembler is located, she can strike.>due to the loss of communications from others, Drossel has taken the title of queen, and has begun to establish lesser nobility under her. Most of them are her former minions, but a few are out side robots. Some even say that she has even 'upgraded' humans to serve her, but these are only rumors.>She keeps records of everything. From ancient research to accounts of the unknown and mystical, almost anything can be found in Tempest citadels vast library. Too bad it's all written in binart
>>37256077>How would Drossel and Kane react to each other?Kane would be annoyed that yet another machine was trying to get in the way of progress. Once she insults him (or worse, starts giving him orders), the kid gloves come off and the drones start flying. It's been a while, but I'll refresh my memory on both of them later.How did I not put together that Todayland is Disney World? Does that mean DOR-15 is sitting on a ley line of Disney magic?
Let's discuss Xanatos! Is there a way to make Magnificent Bastardy a Power?
>>37256922I have to sleep now, but I can say this:>Recently, the business world has been shocked by the purchase of software company ENCOM by David Xanatos and Xanatos Enterprises.>Though vague, Mr. Xanatos made the bold claim that "(His) decision will tip the scales of this war in our favor."
>>37257546>ENCOMIt still exists here?
>>37200257Does Into the Woods count as Disney now? Are there giants in the sky who will hold me close to their giant breasts?
>>37257725We have not borrowed much from the live action movies and there has been no real discussion of it as far as I am aware. I am not interested in the movie as I had not heard of it before you mentioned it.
>>37253121>>37239285>>37239682>>37240107When it was written, Mulan had received a lot more attention than she has of recent from writefagging and brainstorming, and all those pictures painted her as a mostly insane, rage-filled and vengeful walking corpse. Additionally, Against The Living! is, or at least was, intended to be used by all sentient corporeal undead, based on the few representations we have of them in Disney (mostly the Black Cauldron). Moreover, it's mechanically impossible for her to fail the roll with her high Sensibility+Insight, so it's mostly there to represent that 'hey, this woman is an undead horror no matter how noble the spirits animating her might be'.Just my two cents. Also, that was written in like, thread 17 before the mechanics were finalized so I doubt it's complete.
>>37258506The live action movies are their own little can of worms--mainly because a lot of the animated sequences in these movies "bleed out" into realspace: our dimension. Aside from that, there's not much to pull from any of them--the "Song of the South" folk tales concerning Br'er Rabbit and Br'er Fox were little more than fables, and Bedknobs and Broomsticks really doesn't work with the game's setting. The only real thing that can be pulled would realistically be Enchanted, and even then I doubt most people know of Giselle or Andalasia--what little was seen of it, anyhow.A secondary problem with Enchanted comes with where to place it. Andalasia is a pristine, happy place that probably wouldn't look out of place in the Core setting, but the fact that it "bleeds out" into the modern world would put it in Gridlock. I guess which setting it's used in could be put up to GM discretion, but the "modern meets archaic" archetype is already played out in Atlantis against everyone else in the Core setting. Perhaps it could function as another "bridge" from the Core setting to Gridlocked, allowing dashing knights and dragons of old to go up against superheroes, and somehow still have a cohesive storyline that doesn't scream "let's toss every idea we have at a wall and see what sticks because we've obviously written ourselves into a corner on how to ramp this campaign up"?
Morning folks. Glad to be here once again.
>>37258587>Moreover, it's mechanically impossible for her to fail the roll with her high Sensibility+Insight, so it's mostly there to represent that 'hey, this woman is an undead horror no matter how noble the spirits animating her might be'.Exactly. Mulan's nothing but an ally to the PCs and the people of China, but she's still an unnerving, shambling terror that is impossible to kill permanently and wants to kill all Huns she comes across.>>37258823>Perhaps it could function as another "bridge" from the Core setting to Gridlocked, allowing dashing knights and dragons of old to go up against superheroes, and somehow still have a cohesive storyline that doesn't scream "let's toss every idea we have at a wall and see what sticks because we've obviously written ourselves into a corner on how to ramp this campaign up"?I feel like this is the only place to put Enchanted without it feeling incredibly shoehorned, but then again, I'm not too familiar with that property beyond the basics.>>37258506>>37257725The live action movies are a bit harder to integrate with the animated properties thematically, so the little use we've gotten out of them have been for flavor and little touches here and there.>>37256922That power ought to be called "Xanatos' Gambit," but beside that it's going to take a bit of thought to figure out what that power ought to be.
>>37231521>Against The Living>Not>AMONG THE LIVING, FOLLOW ME OR DIEIt's like you guys are avoiding pop culture references on purpose.
>>37260052>"Where the fuck is Mickey? It's not Disney without Mickey Mouse!"
Good morning, DVV Imagineers.
>>37259746Enchanted could basically be summed up as "Disney making fun of itself" in the same vein as Frozen or Tangled made fun of Disney cliches. Andalasia is like some weird cross between Corona and Naboo, with talking animals and a Princess that lives in a cottage, has a talking squirrel companion, and sings constantly. There's an evil stepmother involved that wanted to kill Giselle to claim the throne, and there's a meatheaded Dashing Prince character that also sings constantly. The Princess is a starry-eyed idealist and the Prince has eyes only for her, the stepmother is a conniving bitch--you know the song and dance. Drop in a portal to the middle of Manhattan and add in a plot featuring a divorce attorney showing a princess the ways of the 21st century while she continues to do the spontaneously bursting into song thing and you have Enchanted.Y'know what, this song and dance sequence probably sums up Enchanted better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRYU4cqUAUs
>>37260785You know, what if the Princess from Enchanted doesn't have this grand real-world adventure like in the movie, but instead is met by Xanatos and is treated something like a cross between a political refugee and a hostage? Publicly she is the Princess of Andalasia in exile and is Xanatos' honored guest while she seems refuge in the world of Gridlock. Privately, whether she knows it or not, she's being kept in a gilded cage while Xanatos seeks for a way to access Andalasia, its resources and its magic.Rescuing her could involve the crew from Oliver and Company because of the talking animal crossover.
I'm trying to write up a Classic DTP piece but it's not coming to me easily. I've got this very clear image of the party riding off into the sunset in my head:>Sverd, ever the hero, riding with our favorite unconscious, Allosaurus-turned-human on one horse.>Jeremiah, brooding on his family and what he's just done on his bison.>Lazarus balancing cross-legged atop Fibber, having a debate on the relationship between Beast and Man.>Mary riding on the Nautilus hover-bike, irked at it needing to be towed behind one of the horses.>Hannah riding behind Mary on the bike and slipping the Queen La costume into Mary's pack for later.
>>37261058In the original series, Xanatos made use of both technology and ancient magics in order to have his way with the world. It makes sense that he's still up to his old tricks and some new ones in the world of DVV. Am I right in thinking that he's the only King with access to magical artifacts in Gridlock?
>>37260174probably studying under yen sid still.
>>37262632If and when we get to the Toon expansion, Mickey's fate will have to be addressed, surely.
I really like that we've got a whole range of different dystopias in this modern setting.
Did we ever creating a method for statting out fairies in the Classic game? I know we have a whole slew of beasts and Yzmic Chimera more or less codified. Would playable undead a thing in a Hunnic China campaign, or are they best used as Mooks and cannonfodder for Mulan's Spiritual Rebellion?What are the different playable races for Gridlock?Are Supers considered their own "race," or are they just humans granted specific Traits and Powers for free upon creation? Robots certainly seem to be playable, but what about the humans left aboard the Axiom?We have two types of digital character as well in Tron's Programs and Wreck-It Ralph's game characters.Gravity Falls is known for its cryptids and demihumans, are they playable as well?What about Gargoyles?In some ways, Gridlock might be more diverse than Classic in terms of them types of characters a player might play, if we let them.
>>37265137On this anon's note, will we still have animal characters in Gridlocked? I imagine we can simply carry the crunch over from DVV for that.
>>37265252I don't think here should be any problem at all carrying over the Classic rules for animals. As I see it, intelligent animals would fit into several different niches in Gridlock:>Oliver and Company: naturally.>Enchanted: Brought over with the princess from her magical homeland.>Incredibles/Big Hero 6/Kim Possible/Phineas and Ferb: Minor superheroes and mad science experiments.>Gravity Falls: Paranormal creatures and cryptids.
>>37265434speaking of cryptids, this might be the type of conversation to go down between Fiona and 'Light Rider' (real name pending)>"uh Fiona?">"yeah man, what is it?"> "y'know how you said your granddad was...different?">"Yeah, why are you asking?"> "well you never said he was (Pic related) now did you!?">"you never asked">"and why aren't you put off by Maliwan, the guy give me the chills whenever he talks">" he's the alien, right? the guy in charge back home talked just like him all the time, you'll get used to it"
>>37265137I'm imagining that a Super character template would start off using a Human template as the base, and would then be granted one free trait that boosts one of the character's attributes to superhuman levels and one free Power that makes use of that boost to do something Incredible.For instance, May Kang is a Super. Her player stats her out as a Human however he or she likes. She then gains the Trait:>SUPER-NIMBLENESS:>This character is superhumanly fast and agile, granting them +5 to their Nimbleness Attribute.And the Power:>SUPERPOWER: Flash Step:>Spend one Will Point. This character can use their super speed to traverse the distance between two points within the immediate vicinity nearly instantaneously. If done while out of Combat, the Will Point is refunded.
>>37265992I like this as an idea, good job. howsabout the super being able to combine their trait with something elsesay Smarts+SUPER-NIMBLENESS: automatically solve any pass-code encrypted locking system (inputs every possible combo in a fraction of a second until the right one is entered)
>>37266116That's a good question. In the example you gave, I think that, since the character is trying to brute-force a passcode lock, it might be a matter of using their Nimbleness Attribute along with their Mechanical Skill.
>>37266274sounds good to me.By the by what are your thoughts on the exchange I came up with here >>37265881 ?
I'm currently working on a Motorcity Nimble Guy.
This is what I have so far. Going to have to finish the rest when I get back from work.Name: Ashley "Crash" WilsonRole: Nimble GuyTerritory of Origin: KaneCoSize: MediumSpecies: Human---Attributes---Robustness: 9/12Agility: 10/12Intelligence: 6/12Sensibility: 7/12Charm: 8/12Will: 3/3Strikes: 3/3---Skills---Acrobatics: (3)Athletics: 4Melee: 3Ranged: 3Brawl: 3Prevent Harm: (3)Mechanics: 4Driving: 4Craft: 3---Traits---Does It Have A Steering Wheel? - Ignore the time to acclimate to a new type of vehicle, and +2 to Drive checks made with land vehicles.Round Trip - You're so good with melee weapons, you can use them at a distance. You can treat an item that gives a Melee bonus as having a Ranged bonus of the same level. By magic or sheer skill, you can make a ranged attack with that weapon and it will come right back to you.Adrenaline Junkie - +2 to Drive, Travel, Acrobatics or Athletics when willingly partaking in an extremely dangerous or life threatening stunt.---Powers---Ukemi - Whenever you would take more than one strike from a single attack, you may Test Acrobatics against TN20 to negate all but one of those strikes.Fastest Fingers in All the Lands - Spend a will point. You gain a +5 bonus to Mechanics, Acrobatics, and Athletics checks for the remainder of the scene.---Equipment---Trusty Wrench - +1 Melee, +1 MechanicsMotorcycle Jacket - +2 Prevent HarmFuzzy Dice Charm - +1 Drive---Ideals---Life is short, so enjoy it and look cool while doing so.Between oppression and death, taking a third option is preferred.Going fast is great, but stopping to enjoy the view is fine too.
>>37266385Driving home, will take a look when I get there.
>>37253157>>37254481I'm still here bros. Just busy as fuck. I get this weekend off though, might bang out some more artwork.
>>37258823An additional problem with Into the Woods is that it bleeds into other fairy tales that have had Disney movies. That's probably why they changed the script so that Rapunzel doesn't die.Its villain also isn't particularly villainous, even though she manages to tally up a much higher body count than anyone short of Shan Yu, probably. She really just wants to find her husband's killer, and after that's done she wouldn't really be motivated to do further villainy.
>>37267363Hey, good to have you back! Please don't let us rush you or pressure you to do anything while you're busy!
>>37267287I can't see anything wrong with the crunch, and the mechanics look pretty good. Fluff-wise, it's nice to see a daredevil motorhead character thrown into the mix, as nothing says "modern day freedom" quite like speeding motorized vehicles. I look forward to seeing anything else you come up with for her! Or for him! Ashley's a unisex name so I'm not sure which way you're going with it.>>37265881I'll be interested in seeing what becomes of Fiona if more folk write about her or if she becomes part of a modern DTP group. I don't want us to jump the gun though and decide too much before we've got the basics of the Gridlock world finalized. That being said, I've been getting the impression from her stats and profile that she might have the bad habit of answering questions with more questions, and might have a lot of cheerfully vague and mildly troubling stories about her past life in the Oregon Triangle and hitchhiking across the Americas.
Bumping the thread in the hopes more folk will come on for some discussion.
>>37270229Thank you. Ashley is a man, and he is only fine with his close friends calling him that. To everyone else, he is Crash.>>37267287---Goals---Zero: Complete your dream car and give it a totally sick animal theme.On-a-Roll: Take your dream car for a spin across an extremely dangerous (everybody shooting at you or worse) locale at top speed with your best pals.Hero: Take 'extreme' to the next level with an act so mind numbingly insane everybody will continue to talk about it for generations to come.Physical Description:Crash Wilson is tall and athletically built. His blue leather jacket is full of so many patches and pins that it gets lost in the colors and symbols. Instead of a safety helmet, Crash complements his jacket with a pink scarf like a lunatic with poor sense of priorities.Rundown: Ashley's birth family were of the many families removed from the old Motorcity. He was separated from them during that confusing time, but the young boy was picked up by some 'eccentric' wasteland raiders that adopted him into their crew. When he became a man, he had to leave the bandits and form shape his own life, driving away into the sunset with tears in his eyes. Then his makeshift automobile falls apart sometime before he meets his party.Though rather loony compared to most people, he has his feet planted firmly in the ground when it comes to vehicles. When you need a job done fast (but not done right), look no further than Crash Wilson.
bump for more character discussion and a new edition of the map im working on
Updates>Slightly shifted around the map again>Tempest Domain>Contested area>More cities and attractionsHopefully this will drum up conversation.
>>37276465I hate when that happens.New map. Discuss.
>>37276492Out of curiosity why does San Fransokyo control hawaii rather than the Galactic Federation controlling it completely.
>>37277060Good point. Going to go and fix that tomorrow. What color should it be?
>>37273609Glad I asked about his gender instead of just making the assumption! I like the rest of what you've added here a lot. He strikes me as really colorful and a fun, loose cannon sort of character.>>37277249>>37277060I agree with this change here.>>37276492Thoughts and notions on the map:1.Thanks for updating it, first and foremost!2. I still feel like the "Oregon Triangle" needs to be just a little bit bigger in order for it to feel comparable to the other Lands when seen on the map. Not much bigger! Just a bit. How does this (attached image) look?3. San Fransokyo's domain could be a little bit bigger as well.4. Are we happy with the BUY n' LARGE Wasteland's current configuration? Right now it's a continent-wide sprawl that seems to be taking up the space not claimed by the other Lands. Also, we need to come to a final decision on where the Axiom is going to land. I'm still a big proponent of Chicago as we see the ship landing in the ruins of a large metropolitan city with a harbor in the film.5. Currently Drossel's Tempest Tower seems to be located in Chicago. Is this canon in her show/film? Can her domain be shifted to Detroit Deluxe's south-east? I'm not familiar with Fireball and can't seem to find information on where she's supposed to be situated.These are all just ideas floating around in my head, so feel free to disregard any of them!
>>37277877I did a thing
>>37277904This makes me think that the BUY n' LARGE Wasteland ought to be tan/brown and Gravity Falls' Oregon Triangle should be yellow instead, but I tested it out in paint and it doesn't stand out quite as much as the green does, at least not without some more doctoring.
I must ask, where is Doomtown? Didn't we push it back to this expansion, or are we saving that for a future 'toon' thing?
>>37278239All I'm worried about is if they would play well and fit in with the established setting.That, and I forgot.
>>37278239Hey Nob, hope things are going well.There was some talk about it a while ago, though I don't remember how long ago that was. I think that it was pushed forward as you said on the argument that it was more closely tied thematically to a potential Toon expansion set in a vague past/present than one focused on the present/future.
>>37265137>>37278362>All I'm worried about is if they would play well and fit in with the established setting.That's a good point. Gridlock is potentially a LOT more diverse than Classic in terms of different playable races, and adding volatile Cartoon Characters to the mix might be something of an overload.
>>37210497Thanks for keeping the map updated while I've been absent. It's looking great>>37222483I'd love to see some more DTP too. Between the holidays and dealing with my family I've barely had time to think. Fortunately I'm back in school next week so I'll be able to follow the thread and write some more. I may have also been distracted by marathoning A:TLA all week.
>>37278591Good to see you again, Dread! Holidays, family matters and such have been on all of our minds as of late. Any input you'd like to share on the map? On Classic DTP or potential Gridlock DTP? I want to feel like we're poised for a contributor comeback.
>>37278748I'm liking the progress on the map so far. The location of Tempest tower isn't based on any canon, nor can I remember why I put it there instead of somewhere else. I am not at my computer at the moment but looking at the map I agree with this >>37277877 fellow that the gravity falls triangle should be bigger. We can expand Sanfransokyo into the rest of unclaimed Washington and Oregon, but I think that since they are an up and coming power they shouldn't necessarily have enough territory.As for DTP, I've definitely got more Classic in mind. There's plenty of characters both OC and Disney that I want to write about and I'm planning out the next story arc right now.Gridlock definitely needs more fully statted characters before a DTP is in order. I also think that Classic is enough writing commitment for me, but I would encourage another writefag to take up the helm on that!
>>37278865I really like the way that the map, in general, is laid out right now and know that further tweaking is only going to make it play and feel better. I agree with you and Anon that Gravity Falls' Triangle should be a little bigger on the official map to show that it's a place worthy of a KLR and not just a random point of interest. I forgot that San Fransokyo was relatively new, so it makes sense that they don't have a big inland empire yet, but filling them out a little bit might make the map look a little nicer. Also, I feel like Anon's ideas on the BnL Wastes and Drossel's Tempest Tower might be good to think about just to make each of the feel a little better in relation to each other and the other nation states.Classic DTP has been one of the more fun things to see develop in these threads, and your writing on them has been really great. I'm looking forward to seeing what you have in store for them, especially since you mention planning a story arc! The Gridlock characters I've seen with stats and art so far seem pretty cool, and it will be interesting to see who catches our imaginations once the ball really gets rolling again.
Is it wrong that I imagine the second half of Drossel's fight going something like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szw4F7Eyu8salso King Candy/ King Turbug racing fight in the arcade?
>>37279189I hadn't thought about it, but Gridlock really does give us the opportunity to create some really unique boss encounters.
It's 4:30 in the morning. Night folks. Good work as always. Seems things are picking up again.
>>37279375I also had some ideas for the Villains in the arcade:>Sensible: Program LQ-84i/ GridBug: a unit created for the infiltration and takeover of the grid network, made when a program was infected with cybug code by King Turbug himself, GridBug look like a normal program except for his wings, dual jointed legs, talons and the cybug tail running down his back, these features are only apparent when he isn't disguised as a program.>Strong: Punch Gumball/ GumBug: an immensely strong individual with the mind of a small child, created when a chewing gum cybug absorbed the coding of several fighting game characters, GumBug stands roughly 7 feet tall with a heavily muscled physique and twin antenna running down his back, alongside his cybug tail these are the only features of him that indicate he is a villain when he isn't disguised, he's also Pink.what do you guys think of these bad boys so far?(Not sure what to do with Smart, Charming or Nimble though)
>>37280009It's still early in Eagleland, give them time.
>>37280619any advice for the other three villains?
>>37280619also I see the two I've come up with as having the following personalities:Punch Gumball: Kid Buu (DBZ)+Trebol (One Piece)Program LQ-84i: Monsoon (MGR:R) + Saren/Sovereign (Mass Effect Series)
>>37280768I'd think i'd like a Nimble Charming Villain created when a Cybug absorbed a Sonic-style animal with attitude charecter
Changed the AXIOM's location to St. Louis to keep it in America so we can fit it on the map.
>>37281040With how many times it's changed locations, it's a good thing that the Axiom can fly.>>37280985>>37280840>>37279670I really like the idea of having Cybug Villains, but we have to be careful not to make every villain in the Arcade Game Worlds a Cybug and have a little diversity in the mix.Also, I'm really wondering if Turbo/King Candy needs to be a Cybug in Gridlock. Candy being eaten and hijacking the Cybug's coding only happens late in the movie when he's near defeat as a fakeout and an "it gets so much worse" surprise for the movie's viewers. I'm not saying that Turbo/King Candy can't become a Cybug monstrosity, but that we have to think carefully about what his "DVV win conditions" are, when in the movie's storyline these conditions come about, and what exactly happens to the heroes and the Cybugs because of it.
>>37281221>With how many times it's changed locationsIt's changed retroactively. It's a Retcon.
>>37281221After the hijack he says "Because of you, Ralph, I'm now the most powerful virus in the arcade! I can take over any game I want! I should thank you... buut it be more fun to kill you." so yeah King Turbug should be a thing but it shouldn't be obvious to the players that he is like that, it should only be revealed during the final missions of the arcade>"Hello,and welcome to litwakth arcade the funetht place on the whole ethernet, Im King Candy and I'm in need of your athithtance, you thee, after that nathty fellow CLU and his athociate the MCP firtht attacked their have been uprithingth and I need your help in keeping the population 'thafe', tho whaddaya thay?"
>>37281276I know, sorry, I was just trying to make a joke. I shouldn't try to make jokes early in the morning.>>37281418You know, I'd forgotten that he'd said that. Thank you for reminding me! You're right. King Candybug should definitely be a thing.
>>37281475What do you think of my way to introduce him, keep the players under his thumb, until the final mission under him, have them be knocked out by the resistance and when they come to, Felix destroys the control King Turbug has over them, and they engage in the final assault on his palace alongside Felix, Calhoun and the other resistance fighters
>>37281532I like the idea of Turbo/King Candy tricking the PCs into helping him with the whole "wacky king concerned for his people" shtick that almost worked on Ralph. What fates are you envisioning for the heroes of Wreck-It Ralph? So far, I've been thinking:>Ralph:Was killed outright while attempting to defeat the bugs and save Sugar Rush by Turbo/King Candy in his King Cybug form. After Ralph's murder, Turbo/Candy reassumed his King Candy persona and escaped the quickly collapsing game world, claiming that he was saved by Ralph's "heroic sacrifice.">Vanellope von Schweetz:As a "glitch," was unable to leave the swiftly corrupting Sugar Rush, and was erased from existence in the game's final collapse. However, rumors and urban legends in Gamespace and in Real Life have begun circulating about an eerie and mysterious little glitch playing a game all its own.>Calhoun:Unable to save Sugar Rush from corruption and collapse at the mandibles of the Cybug swarm, Calhoun suffered a serious relapse of her pre-programed, post-traumatic stress disorder. She returned to her own game, but was known thereafter as "that annoying NPC that keeps babying the PCs and holding them back.">Felix:With the death of Ralph, Felix and the rest of the Game Characters were forced to abandon the Fix-It Felix console and move into others Game Worlds. However, this has only toughened the handyman up, as he has risen to the challenge of helping to keep the Game Worlds from suffering further collapse.
>>37282254these seem like really good choices, I particularly like role reversal of Felix and Calhoun, good job *thumbs up*
So on the subject of maps, I think we should expand San Fransokyo across all of The West Coast and maybe place Litwak's arcade there.
>>37282657>>37278865Dread Cartographer and I at least are in favor of giving San Fransokyo more land up the West Coast, but are wary of giving them a giant inland empire. as for where Litwak's Arcade and Family Fun Center is, I'm not sure myself. Right now it's in the middle of the country.
>>37282722Yeah, i'm only in favor of giving him the rest of the California Coast, not anything inland.
>>37282751That makes sense to you. I think that there is probably a good amount of tweaking that can be done to the map. I could give it a shot but I don't want to step on anyone's toes. Think I should?
>>37282913Eh, i'd like to set up a democracy where we vote for changes but that's hard to pull off with an anonymous system so I'll just say go for it and see what people think.
>>37282945I know what you mean. I don't want to be making unilateral decisions in mapmaking, honestly. All I was suggesting was making a few tweaks and seeing what people think.
>>37282913Go ahead. No harm in putting up your own map
>>37283232>>37282992>>37282945>>37282913This is what I was thinking.
>>37283408Maybe make San Fransokyo a bit larger and move the arcade to there but otherwise perfect.
>>37283408Where can I find the map graphic to edit?
>>37283678>>37283659I'm not sure where the original map came from. I just used the latest edit in my edit. Also, we have to make sure that Syndrome keeps a piece of the California Coast, and on second thought, maybe we could extend his Land and Drossel's Tempest Domain up to the Canadian border if we don't want that BnL Wasteland slop-over.
>>37283751How do I edit it?
>>37283979I've just been saving the file, opening it in Microsoft Paint and messing around with it honestly.
>>37284004I'm trying to copy the file it's not working.
I have been following these threads and I have to say I love everything, but I only catch them every now and then so I am wondering if there is a put together timeline or anything?
>>37284245There's a rough timeline for Classic that still needs work since people moved on to Gridlocked before completely finishing everything. Although it's not entirely finished, it's generally that Chernobog dropped all the various nations in at different times, starting with Shan Yu a long time back, then ranging from Atlantis dropped in 20 years ago to Arendelle dropped in just a year ago.
>>37284245Glad to have you stopping by! You know, I was just thinking about the point you bring up the other day. I know that we have the KLRs, the descriptions of the Villain Kings, the Lands and their Rule over them, but given all the fluff we've spun out over the course of more than SIXTY threads, I'm wondering if we might want to overhaul the "Adventurer's Almanac" in the OP to be a more comprehensive compilation of the various nations-states in DVV Classic, their histories, their leaders and their peoples.
Drawfag reporting. What is needed?
This post might be of interest:http://architizer.com/blog/the-architecture-of-the-incredibles/
>>37285064More general DTP, as always, setting stuff, or just generally any pictures that would be good to put in the core rulebook.Speaking off: Can we seriously get off gridlocked for like ten fucking seconds to finish the hunters and villains? Seriously, it's really annoying me how whenever someone brings up doing some ACTUAL WORK everyone goes 'yeah that's a good idea I guess someone else can actually finish the fucking setting' and then goes off to aimless circling about gridlocked fluff.
>>37285064Hey there! Glad to see you! I'm not sure what you're looking to get into, but you could try your hand at >>37261274 if you were looking for a larger project. Really though, anything you feel like drawing is going to be great.
>>37285143Point taken. I know that my own problem is that the Hunters and villains remaining to be statted out are ones that I'm not incredibly familiar with.
>>37282254I remember seeing the idea for a cybug version of Ralph in some previous threads. I think that would be a neat idea, especially if he was the only one to know where Vanellope is.
>>37283678I cut America out of a Vicky 2 map and edited in a map of NYC in from a map I found on Google. I didn't save a blank map unfortunately.
>>37285064If you have the time could you draw these two?>>37279670 heres the breakdown for gridbug...
>>37285249I think that Ralph being a Cybug may be best left up to each individual DM's discretion. I'm not so much a fan, but that's just my own opinion.>>37285143I know that there is someone statting up the remaining two hunters but I forget who it is. What villains are left otherwise?
>>37285393Kind of freaky.
>>37285393...and heres gumbug
Here is my map:
>>37285393>>37285573These seem fucking horrifying and not disney at all.
>>37285064I'd like to see your take on the campaign party.
>>37285539that the point, he's an infiltrator, when he's disguised he looks like one of these
>>37285645Oh man, seconding this. I really want to see a good drawing of the Campaign party.
>>37261274what is Fibber?
>>37285645>>37285712which campaign party?
>>37285630given that one shot of a cybug was this, you don't really have a leg to stand on, they are supposed to be fucking terrifying, except when kids are visiting the arcade, then they don't look scary.
>>37285739Fibber was Hannah's horse, unless I'm misremembering things.
>>37285764The test campaign, the one GMd by Nobody Important with the links in the second post.
>>37285790for Program LQ-84i see here >>37285697
>>37285889the first playtest?
>>37285811>>37285739Fibber was Hannah's intelligent horse that was a terrible liar and a boon companion.
>>37285982>>37200278>First Campaign Session: http://pastebin.com/Ne7SpFMJ>Second Campaign Session: http://pastebin.com/2hbsDP74>Third and Fourh Campaign Sessions: http://pastebin.com/cY8TLN0z>Fifth Campaign Session: http://pastebin.com/v2s3s1vi>Playtests are hosted here; https://app.roll20.net/join/601097/mEiDCA
>>37286567why not make a list of character descriptions?
>>37285596Why? That solves litteraly none of the BnL waste land problems
>>37286970I reduced it's area drastically.
To my remembering, we still need McLeach and Slade statted out for the hunters, but that someone is already working on them. Did we need more lower-level villains statted out as examples? If so, what Kings and Lands are still requiring Villains?>>37285596You've done good work with the map, but there are a few points that I'm not sure about:1. Drakk Tech looks like it has a LOT of land now that I'm not sure it needs.2. The BUY n' LARGE Wasteland has been shrunk down considerably, making it less dire.3. The Axiom is no longer near any bodies of water.4. DOR-15's territory also looks disproportionately large.5. Syndrome's nation is completely landlocked and has no access to any bodies of water.
>>37287083I think that the problem with the BnL Wasteland wasn't necessarily that it's big, but was the fact that it felt like it was just taking up whatever space we hadn't allocated to the other Lands yet.
>>37282722I looked up Litwak's Family Fun Center & Arcade for reference. The 'commercials' say that it can be found on Route 83. Then I searched US Route 83 and found a good spot to put it.
>>37287280Nice research! It works for me!
>>37286832Let's see. We have the black-haired Virginian pretty boy duelist, the enormous grey furred russian boar wearing a leather saddle from ten years ago, a monkey/bird hippy scientist, a black, bald, hat wearing New Orleansian musician, a stereotypical 'native american princess', and a right proper english hunter who is very confused about where he is but makes sure to take very good care of his hair. Probably not the best set of descriptions.
Here's my new map. I think i've fixed some problems.
>>37287531So here's the map, sorry mistake:
>>37287561Why are some of the areas big grey blobs? It's a little messy when you could just increase the size of the circles.
>>37287653Because i'm not good at drawing circles.
>>37287744Copy and Paste.In an unrelated question, whatever happened to the city in The Incredibles?
bump because I'm a British person with more than enough time on his hands
>>37287083But now its just Drakktech. A wasteland composed all the wastes of the factions makes a lot more sense then her ruling
>>37288122>All the other Lands just dump their garbage in the BnL Wastes because why the hell not.
>>37287561This is a lot better, though I wonder about the straight-line borders on a lot of the Lands. Syndrome's holdings are gigantic now and DOR-15's region is still pretty large.
>>37286832Meant to link >>37288730.
>>37285393Here's a bitchin' theme for himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moiTaZmdOcE
>>37288936this is perfect, no really, it fits the Grid so well and it could be used as part of his boss fight mechanic, him screwing around with the way the room is arranged, what do you think?
>>37288936This is a good track for any GRID-based boss encounter.
>>37288730Mosskin, here, I updated my pastebin sheet with rundown and description a while ago.
>>37288936 I found this and thought it would be a perfect match for GumBughttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wfOyD7IM0w
>>37288730>>37287339 Had to rush, here's some quick concepts. I'm basing princess off of Tiger Lilly, seeps pretty straightforward.
>>37290561That boar has just HAD IT with the party's nonsense, and I'm loving Dances with Llamas. The rest are great too, of course! Glad to see you back!
>>37290561No Dances With Coyotes?
>>37290561>>37290810I think he's still working on her.
>>37290561Boaris is fucking stellar(as is everyone else but Boaris especially)
>>37290561Can't wait for the final draft.
>>37290561Looks absolutely great so far, but I just wanted to note really quick that Nick's using epees instead of rapiers here. You can't use two epees mechanically while you can effectively use two rapiers. Sorry, just a minor detail, but fencing for most of my life I did notice it.
>>37290561Also I remember Boris having a spearhead stuck somewhere. It gives an Intimidate bonus. And Dances has a Chullo hat.
>>37292545Hey Sverd, aside from the two remaining hunters, do you know f any more Kings or villains in need of statting?
>>37292878More Villians are always good, though they're better if they're for regions that don't have any yet.>>37290561Absolutely glorious.
>>37292878There's three remaining hunters. There are a couple regions with no 'official' villains, so adding a villain to those regions would be great. They're on the wiki.
>>37293353>>37293226Thanks gentlemen! The remaining members of the Elite Global Huntsmen's Club are being worked on by someone, if I can recall correctly, but I'll take a gander and see what I can come up with villain-wise.
Thanks for the compliments guys! I unfortunately don't have the time for a full colored pic right now, so here's some more 8 min concepts. I love getting a feel for the characters and these guys seem like a lot of fun. I'll be juggling them with DTP and maybe some Gridlock if you like. Also feed me settings, when I get back I'll nitpick some posts.
>>37294020Really digging it so far! Keep up the great work, Drawfag. As far as settings go, if we had a piece of art to put in for each kingdom (or at least the important ones - I.E. Europe and the middle east) It'd be wonderful! The KLRs for each one are on the wiki and you can always ask here if you need a better feel for the nations.
>>37288605How does this look?
Some inspirational tunes for DTPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ubdk1tuI0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDVDUKLhc3A
>>37294020You make an excellent "I'm getting sick of your shit Nick" face, though I must point out that I'm trying to play Boris as the part-time comic relief.
Sorry for not helping more, but I've been busy as hell the last few days
>>37294499I have a few complaints.Litwak's should be somewhere on Route 83.The Wasteland could use more space, and Drossel should be somewhere away from most human settlements.Kronos shouldn't be separated.The rest of the borders are a bit too rigid for my taste, and the map could use some major touch ups.
>>37296176It seems like all of us have in the new year. It's to be expected.
>>37296257>>37283408Here's a map that I'd made earlier. Anon and I have been simultaneously working on trying to find configurations that feel right. This is a democratic project ad everyone has a say.
>>37296325Looking at several different maps at once, it seems that Drossel moves around the most.Personally I felt she could stay in Chicago. What about you guys? Should we all get names to sort out trains of thought easier?
>>37296549I don't think names are strictly necessary, though I definitely don't hold names against those that have them.I feel like Drossel has moved around a lot because her Tempest Domain and Tempest Tower have no canon locations on the map as far as I have been able to research them. Also, I know that I only have a vague understanding of what she's about, and feel like she may be one of the least well known and understood characters in this expansion. This has made her positioning on the Gridlock map more nebulous and changeable than the other Villain Kings'.The reason why I took Chicago away from her is that I felt that the Axiom's landing site needed to be in the ruins of a large city with a harbor, as was depicted in the WALL-E movie. There has been discussion for a long while that the BUY n' LARGE Wasteland was based around the Great Lakes/Heartland regions, and making Chicago the home base of BnL and the landing site of the Axiom seemed to make sense.
>>37296817I agree that having the Axiom in Chicago and moving Drossel up north would be the best course of action. It lets us keep the Kane vs Robots hook and creates a safe haven for free machines to escape to.Also, how would you guys feel to making LA a Grid integrated city? It's where ENCOM and Flynn's Arcade are, so I thought it would make sense for CLU to set up shop there.
>>37297087I don't think I'd have a problem with it. We just have to take care because that would put Big Hero 6, the Incredibles and Tron within really close proximity to each other on the map.
>>37296257Get a load of this!
Okay, here's something I realized that you're not going to get from the transcripts: The volcano from which the Firebird erupted was barren of vegetation and snow....it was a BALD MOUNTAIN
>>37297891I think that's giving DOR-15 way too much land. Putting Litwak's where you did is reasonable, if maybe too close to Middleton.>>37298025Plot twist!
>>37298057>>372978911. Agreed on DOR-15's landgrab. She's got a lot of territory for an ambulatory hypnotic hat.2. I'm not sure about sandwiching Drossel between A.U.T.O. and Kane in terms of how densely packed that makes the region.3.The predominance of straight-edged borders between the different domains is also throwing me off just a little.
>>37290561Working on good sketches now. Any tweaks you guys wanna add?
>>37298057How about this?
>>37298362Made a slightly different map.
>>37298362>>37298439Now DrakkTech has too much land and it cuts factions off. Drossel being in her current position is also bugging me. The second map makes less sense for Drossel to own all of that area and her tower be elsewhere.
>>37298256Dances With Llama is Small-sized, which is defined as "measuring between a foot and two feet comfortably held by one human."
>>37231496I always saw McLeach as being more of a Texan Transplant into Australia than anything.
>>37298511Changed the Tower's position and had her take some land from Drakk Tech.
>>37298256Looks wonderful as always. Just a couple things on Nick and Runs - Nick just wears simple Virginian poor clothes (See picture, his character art), and Runs-with-coyotes isn't prone to showing affection too often. She's also a little dark, Native Americans have pretty light, asian-esque skin tone.
>>37298256This is pretty amazing and the colors are fantastic!>>37298562This I was not aware of!
>>37298635I would say give the BnL Wasteland maybe half of Drossel's territory to make it suitably post-apocalyptic and you'll have gotten the proportions right.
>>37298635Actually, this is what I had in mind.
>>37298763Done and done.
>>37298787>>37298635>>37298827On second thought, we can also move the Tower to where Minneapolis is if we need it closer to KaneCo and the Axiom.
Okay, I need to do something ffs. Anyone have any writefag suggestions for the new setting?
>>37298873Xanatos has a conference call with some 'friends' over the internet. Interpret that however you like.
>>37298873 >Creepypasta stories about Vanellope the Glitch.>Urban legends about Gravity Falls, the Oregon Triangle, that GF sample character.>Xanatos' evaluation of his various villainous competitors.>Traveling across the BUY n' LARGE Wasteland
>>37298787>>37298827I like them both.
>>37298256Here's the image I'm using for Dances with Llamas. Imagine it a little more "civilized".
Oh shit, we've hit the bump limit. I'll archive the thread.
>>37299125THREAD ARCHIVED:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+VictoriousPlease remember to vote it and the rest of the threads up if you have time to spare it from the periodic archive purges Sup/tg/ conducts!Also, someone will have to start a new thread once we reach page 7 or 8 in the catalogue.
It might be easier to reach a consensus on the map if we decide what is acceptable piece by piece.Are we all good with The Axiom being in Chicago and Litwak's being in Texas?
>>37299364I am for sure.
>>37298948>>37299015Xanatos seems a popular option, I'll try to think of something.
I'll make a new thread.
>>37299845NEW THREAD>>37300018NEW THREAD