One eye creaks open, blinking blurrily to clear the sleep from your lashes.Too bright.It is too bright. How are you supposed to sleep in like this?Did Mom break branches training or something?Ugh.You yawn, jaw cracking, and open your eyes.White moss glimmers across stone and bark, casting a clear light across the sleeping forms of your friends.Oh.You're still in he northern forest. Wendigo territory.Sara, Lann and Jin are snoozing gently all over you- Even Sheszka is sleeping easily at your side, neatly wrapped in her blanket. Nin, on the other hand...The moth is sitting atop your skull, apparently doing her best to read the runes and symbols formed by the moss over the stones.>Read anything interesting?>Check your Wolf.>If you're up, then everyone else can suffer too!>Other (?)
>>37127629>Read anything interesting?
>>37127629>Check your Wolf.
>>37127629>>Read anything interesting?
>>37127629>Read anything interesting?Aww yes, RE:Monster EX quest time!
>>37127629>>Read anything interesting?Speak quietly so Shez can rest a bit longer.If / when she wakes up->Check your Wolf.
>>37127629>Read anything interesting?>Check your Wolf.We can do smalltalk while fussing over the sick little wolf.
>>37127629Almost forgot!Character Sheet and Misc:http://pastebin.com/u/REQMArchive:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Re-Monsterorhttp://archive.moe/tg/search/tripcode/!!7fb3j+Ac+pZ%20/type/op/or https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rD-MZe51wYI63xxl-tG8dsxj-RWVtJu3S6Gzd6OTJSw/edit?usp=sharing
>Check your Wolf.
>>37127769And I messed up my user. Anyway haven't been able to join because my computer broke so I havnt seen the twitter
I'm kind of disappointed that we didn't use our knowledge of books, movies, and tv shows to tell anyone stories yet. Something to do when we get back to celebrate maybe.
ah jeebus it's so cold.I agree with the general consensus of asking what she's reading and wolf checking.
Chats and checking!Writing!
We should find out what happens we apply deep frying to web. And also webbed food packets. And also breaded web food packets.
>>37127809this, depending on how good our memory is we could write down some books invent a printing machine if that doesn't exist yet and make good money while becoming famous as a writer and story teller
>>37128031It's like you wanna get shanked by an economist
>>37128031>invent a printing machinWhile Lyra has probably a concept of a printing machine, she is from the far future, so I heavily doubt she knows how to construct one.
>>37128031>>37127809Hey, I'd be up for telling stories if we could render them properly.But terminator 2 just isn't the same without the special effects and soundtrack.
>>37128060We are a giant spider.
>>37128031Nah, I was just talking about storytelling to entertain our friends and loved ones.>"So this one is called 'The Wars in the Stars', yes."
>>37128074Fucking economist man even we gotta be careful.You know how blood thirsty they can be
>that realization you cannot have anything with a bare midriff without exposing things you don't want toWe need to get a compatable skirt.
>>37128081Most scifi stuff wouldn't really work. Most of the fictional concepts used in haven't even been invented yet.We could use the basic story premiss and rework it I guess. Droids become Golems. The Deathstar becomes a city destroying Floating Fortress. Instead of a crippled cyborg, Darth Vader was a fallen Wizard, remade into some sort of Homunculus. Yeah... We could make that work.
>>37128069she must be pretty dumb if she doesn't know something that easy(i'm talking about the earliest ones which were just letters you re arrange)>>37128081yeah but it would be a pretty good way to make some money for when we become queen + being famous has its advantages
>>37128192>she must be pretty dumb You have no idea how to build a printing machine. The problem isn't the concept, its building the actual mechanical printing press.
>>37128191How about Avatar then? A fictional world with lots of wizards, but they're all restricted to one element with one exception and they use body movements and martial arts to help control their magic.
>>37128192>(i'm talking about the earliest onesThey most likely already got those, considering mother had a book intended for mass distribution to young adventurers, who are not the wealthiest people.
>>37128259Elemental magics exist here. Damn sure someone had invented various martial arts.Not a stretch to think someone has combined them. In fact, ours and Moms spear-fighting styles are a combination of elemental magic and martial skills.Probably shouldn't try retelling the story of Avatar until we're sure that exact thing doesn't already exist. It'll look like we're trying to tell a reality based story, but are butchering it because we don't know much about the subject of the story.
>>37128259The core problem of her trying to translate a highly visual story she doesn't actually have perfect memory of into a verbal one on top of having to translate several concepts and tropes into something her family could understand without being an accomplished writer or storyteller remains.Ultimately, unless you actually are a really good story teller, knowing lots of movies won't help all that much in telling stories to someone from a vastly different culture and, if you are one already, you probably don't need to retell movies.
We should obviously tell everybody about the plots of videogames.Like dumb resident evil plots!
>>37128414Not to mention that Lyra probably never saw Avatar or Star Wars.Even if she is from a future version of our world, as opposed to a altogether different one, those things will all have been far before her time and fiction from her time would probably be even harder to convey properly to her new family due to more cultural drift and relying on even further advanced storytelling mediums.
>>37128414I would imagine she can easily fill in the blanks herself. It doesn't even need to be the full tory. It completly suffices to tell the story of her favorite episodes and write down the individual stoies into collections.The bigger problem I have is the assumptiom people will remember that story in her far-off space future.Wether or not Lyra is actually a good storyteller, is a different question though. But we could tell Nin the stories and have her spin actual tales from it.
>>37128414I'm not saying to perfectly retell everything, just have some fun and entertain the family. When did this become about perfectionism? It would be fun to watch them comment and react as well.
>>37128251>You have no idea how to build a printing machine.excuse me, do you know me?because it would be impossible to explain the general idea to dwarfs or someone who know what they were doing?>>37128359show me a quote that say it was printed for mass distribution?(and wasn't that book full of shit?)if it doesn't exist we can give this world something new and if we own the press(oy vey) we could accomplish quite much.and we really need to start taking advantage of the things we know from our second life
>>37128486Her past life is from our modern time. Both those things existed, and just as we're assuming she saw them, you're assuming she hasn't.
>>37128503Because half remembered episodes from a good tv-show rarely make for a good story-telling experience.
Guys, what if Shezka evolved to breath Chlorine Triflouride? It's like hellfire but scarier.
>>37128510>if we own the pressOwning things that can be copied in a world with no patent or IP laws isn't that great actually.
>>37128510My point was, the average person, has a idea of how it basically woirks, at best. But the actual mechanics and construction completly eludes them. Lyra is from a far of space future, where such knowledge would be even more obscure.
>>37128522http://ask.fm/REQM/answer/121055164509She's from the future.And doesn't even know Star Trek.
>>37128540Then we'll have to get rid of her.That shit poisons everything, even people wearing an industrial chemichal protection glove, and then normal gloves under that, and then latex gloves under that.
>>37128414>The core problem of her trying to translate a highly visual story she doesn't actually have perfect memory of into a verbal one on top of having to translate several concepts and tropes into something her family could understandGood point. We'd have to practice our story telling skills and work out in advance how to convert foreign concepts into something they could understand.Much better to start off telling spoken stories!The Grimm Fairy Tales would be perfect! Well, some of them. A lot of them involve monsters being the bad-guys and eating people so it would be a bit awkward, so we'd have to pick and choose.And childrens story we heard growing up would be fresh and new in this world.
Lyra:Resume missing soda and coffee.And science fiction.GOD you miss science fiction.
>>37128615If we're doing that much already, I'd suspect we're better off just making up our own stories while leaning heavily on our far larger library of known fiction and knowledge of tropes.Blatantly ripping off stuff as opposed to jsut using things for inspiration should be kept to a minimum.
>>37128551>Lyra is from a far of space futurewhaat? must have missed that partbut making letters, putting the in the right order getting some ink and pressing them to a paper for some time isn't really rocket science>>37128547it can only be copied if they get access to it and what kind of dumb ass would let anyone get a proper look at it? we would just have to have some really loyal workers
>>37128540Pretty sure we would politely ask her to never use her breath weapon ever again, because she would become a walking war crime.
>>37128678And then you're back to only ever producing a few dozen of copies of your books because you only have one printing press.If you actually want to proliferate your books, you need to proliferate the printing press, at which point other people will very quickly get their hands on it.
>>37128678>but making letters, putting the in the right order getting some ink and pressing them to a paper for some time isn't really rocket scienceThats not a printing press. Thats the idea behind one, but there is a entire machine you need to build to accomplish that.If you meant, "give others the idea for a mechanized printing press", that could work, if we get to the dwarves or others with understanding of mechanics like that.
You slip a hand free of the blankets, placing it gently against your wolf-eared friend's forehead.Warm. Even breaths. Her nose twitches, followed by her ears in turn.You smile. It's more than you've gotten from her in her fevered state, for sure.You turn your attention back to the studious moth."Learn anything new, yes?"Antennae straighten, shoulders pull taut as the nearly leaps from her seat in shock."Eeee-"You manage to grab her arm as her wings start to spread."Am I that frightening?""Na-na-na No! No! You just surprised me!"You giggle a bit, pulling her back down to her seat as she blushes."Can you read that, then?"She looks back to the moss writings, and shakes her head."It isn't anything I recognize. My lady."You smirk."You can't change the subject so easily, squeaky moth-""I can't imagine what you referring to, my Queen-"A deep voice rolls out from behind the two of you."A queen already, little one?">A moth's delusion, and nothing more.>Please don't mind her. I'm fairly certain she's crazy.>Just a spider, yes.>Other (?)
>>37128707>>37128510>because it would be impossible to explain the general idea to dwarfs or someone who know what they were doing?cause it's not like i said that, maybe you should read before you post
>>37128730>>A moth's delusion, and nothing more.
>>37128730>>Just a spider, yes.
>>37128730>Please don't mind her. I'm fairly certain she's crazy.
>>37128730>Just a spider, yes.and her friends, yes.
>>37128730>Please don't mind her. I'm fairly certain she's crazy.>Just a spider, yes.
>>37128730>Just a spider, yes.>Do you have any shiny rocks lying around? It's for my sister.
>>37128783We don't know about the shiny rock collection.Sadly.
>>37128678>it can only be copied if they get access to it and what kind of dumb ass would let anyone get a proper look at it?Why not share the idea? If this doesn't already exist, it would be an awesome thing to do for the world. It's not like we need to keep it for the wealth. We literally shit money. We'd never have to work a day in our life if we didn't want to.>If you meant, "give others the idea for a mechanized printing press", that could work,Sounds good. The earliest versions were hand pressed things. Just arranging the letters on a rack, ink them and manually press to the new page.Faster, more automated versions were developed from there. Give them the basics and let them run with it.
>>37128730>>A moth's delusion, and nothing more.>>Please don't mind her. I'm fairly certain she's crazy.
>>37128808>Why not share the idea? If this doesn't already exist, it would be an awesome thing to do for the world. It's not like we need to keep it for the wealth. We literally shit money. We'd never have to work a day in our life if we didn't want to.because my inner jew wants to take advantage of what we know for when/if we become a queen, it would be a shame to not use it for our advantage really
>>37128800Could say we learned about it off screen?Maybe Elle mentioned it.
>>37128800Where does it say we don't know? There where plenty of times we could have found out: smalltalk during family dinners, the short timeskip, any interactions that wasn't explicitly shown, ect...She's Lyra's sister for crying out loud.
>>37128867>>37128884Aria hides them on purpose.
>>37128884aria's thing says she hasn't shown anyone yet.
>>37128867>>37128884>Where does it say we don't know?> She's a bit embarrassed by them, so she hasn't shown anyone
>>37128856>it would be a shame to not use it for our advantage reallyWe don't need the advantage of wealth. We're a Giant Spider.The advantage of fame, respect and people thinking we're a fucking genius would be even greater if we gave the knowledge freely.
Moths be crazy.Also you're a spider.Writing!
>>37128888>>37128901...Do you want to give her something or not?We can just say we picked some up on a whim, as souvenirs.
>>37128930Aria wants to be a adventurer like mom, anything that improves her fighting, or is useful somehow would make her happy.Maybe the Wendigos have balsm for sore muscles? She could really use those.Be creative instead of using meta knowledge.
>>37128913we should at least start and own the company that develops it and then we can sell the tech/printers and use the money to fund more science projects which could prove to be quite useful when we become queen
>>37128888>>37128910>Aria hides them on purpose.The question is; did she hide it successfully?Nest full of siblings, chances are one of them snooped, even if they didn't mean to.Elle- "Oh dear, I've ran our of that dye. Maybe I could colour it with ink? Now, where did Sara and Dad leave the ink bottles? Over here ... in there ... or ... Oh, these are pretty, they'd look lovely sewn into a gown. Ah! So that's what Ari was collecting. I wonder why she didn't want to tell me?"
>>37128979Or how about we adventure instead of starting Spider-capitalist quest?I would play that quest, but this isn't it.Also Elle is going to be the spider capitalist
>>37128988>did she hide it successfully?Since we haven't heard otherwise. Yes.
>>37128969>instead of using meta knowledge.God damnit, even when REQM says that won't be a problem, it still becomes a problem in some way.
>>37128988>Nest full of siblingsI don't think she would hide them in the nest, there aren't a lot of places to hide things there.>>37129022Thats a different sort of meta knowledge then what he meant.
>>37129017You assume too much. Maybe no one brought attention to it to respect her feelings.
>>37128999I suspect that where-ever Elle chooses to set up her shop will see a rise in either the price of meat, or an increase in the butchery trade...
>>37129038You are the one assuming things.Her paste says, she hasn't told anyone. Otherwise we have no information, and therefore no reason to assume anyone knows.
>>37128999i'm mostly thinking of the future when it might be good to have that and we could always let someone else run the company while we adventure and with the town growing because of the mine it might be good to purchase businesses, buy land and invest so that we have some sway there if we need it
>>37129067>buy land and invest so that we have some sway there if we need itI heavily doubt the Harpies sell land.
>>37129067>and with the town growing because of the mineWhere does it say the town is growing?It just gets more trader and adventurers as visitors. Maybe the harpies allow some more people to settle if they don't have enough workhands, but I can't remember that having been said anywhere yet.
>>37129051Look, it's one of the few things that makes her something other then an aspiring mom clone that wants to compete with us and I just wanted to capitalize on it and do something nice for her. How did this whole argument even start? Can't there be some sort of compromise?
>>37129051Well, we do have pretty blatant confirmation that someone finding out about Aria's collection wouldn't be an event easily missed.http://ask.fm/REQM/answer/120140652125
>>37129079Not that guy, but I would like to buy and invest in land on our father's home island.
>>37129094The lady at the trading post mentioned more people might come out and settle because of trade growth and attracting caravans.But it was just something mentioned in passing in a "something that might happen" kind of way. So nothing is confirmed on that front.
>>37129132>Can't there be some sort of compromise?We have no power over that situation, because Lyra simply doesn't know.If we want to do more nice things for our sister, we need to spend more time with her and get to know her better to learn about these things.Also, she is a month old, its perfectly kokay for her to aspire to be more like her mother, she got years and years ahead of her.
>>37129079could still buy a store or invest in the mine>>37129094people come where the money is at whether they are allowed or not
>>37129232>whether they are allowed or notThe harpies have ample means to keep people away that aren't allowed. They hire the adventurers for that.And anyone who tries to settle without their permission is either going to get driven out or eaten by monsters in the forest.
>>37129079They already have in the form of the village of Oakring, if you think about it.
>>37129245Not to mention the other humans that don't want newcomers that might make trouble or diminish their wealth.
>>37129265I don't think they "sell" that. If we wanted to build a house and live their, they would probably let us, but we wouldn't 'own' the land.Its more a arrangement of mutually beneficial coexistence.
>>37129245yeah but people will keep coming if there's money to be made, just like mexicans to the US
>>37129304Thats a very poor comparison, because of the scale involved, supervision of settling near the mine is a lot easier than crossing into the U.S.
>>37129330I mean, than preventing crossing in the U.S.
>>37129304>>37129330>>37129349The next person to mention Mexicans, the US or any other real-world entity even remotely conencted to politics gets shanked in they're sleep.
HEY.HEY EVERYBODY.you know what I realized we need to buy and have forgotten entirely?SALT!It will make everything better!
>>37129361I'd be afraid if you could figure out how to spell "their"
I would like to point out that Arachne have next to no need for money, and certainly no need for investments.Especially when that Arachne is going to be exploring the world very shortly and has next to no method of monitoring any investments.So, stop being Jews.
>>37129402Any reason to assume they don't already have that figured out?Or do you mean, for us?
>>37129402Might be included in general spices we bought. What kind of spider-chef would we be without it?
>>37129415Yeah, for us. Everything loves salt. Well, other than plants. It's delicious!>>37129422Did we buy general spices? I don't recall. If we do, the saltcall might be a false alarm.
>Dear god>This thread is turning into /pol/ with giant spiders.
>>37129444You mean hell?
>>37129438>Did we buy general spices?We did, in our last visit.>>37129444>One mention of immigration>ITS JUST LIKE /POL/
>>37129361i'll shank ya back twice m8
>>37129444You might as well introduce X card now
>>37129451We have fallen so far.
>>37129408but i love jewing it up in these quests, there's so much potential
>>37129486stop with all of your cybers.I don't want to have to think of spidaugmentation.
>>37129304>>37129330The thing is, the Monster Forest is fuckhuge and people are free to move in as they please. Seriously, it's to big and we have no organized government. Regulated boarders are not an option.The other side of that is.... this is a Monster Forest. You are free to move in. But without the blessing of the local Clan / Tribe / Race that controls this patch, most are fucked. They'll be driven out or die from all the wild monsters.Oakring was able to settle because they have the Harpies blessing. Any that tried to settle without their blessing, wouldn't be very safe.The only way you could settle without blessings is if you tried to move in with military force and attempted to seize the land. But we all know how that would end.That Necromancer really should have thought it through a bit better.
>>37129514Well, to be fair, the ruins -are- full of primo monster skeletons.It's hard to resist for a necromancer.
>>37129506Her Cephalothorax is augmented.
>>37129514we can always to it to another town
I suggest we make the ruins an exclusive museum for monster folk and others by invite...
>>37129514>Any that tried to settle without their blessing in their little slice of territory, would have been targeted and subsequently annihilated by a massive amount of organized HATE being unleashed upon them for their arrogance in believing that they could hold a slice of our home.FTFY.
>>37129543Hopefully we don't need all of those medicine things.>>37129597A whole capital city is a bit large for a museum.Though, a museum on the side would be good.
>>37129514>The thing is, the Monster Forest is fuckhugeThe disucssion was about people moving in for money because of the mining opportunity.
>>37129597It's already regarded as "If you aren't a monsterbutt or mated to a monsterbutt, you come here and die."
>>37129597Thats exactly what they are right now.
>>37129642But who does the guided tours?
>>37129704A spider and moth pair.
>>37129631Does this mean we have to worry about people marrying monsterbutts for a greencard?Is this Lann's nefarious plan?Find out in the next episode of "The spiderbutt thread is now /pol/!"
>>37129779Too late, dad already did it.
>>37129597>make the ruins an exclusiveAlready official policy. Trespassers do not leave in one piece.>>37129611>actively hunt them down and kill themWe could, I guess. I doubt most would unless they were causing some problems. Really, it's a problem that'll solve itself. It's a Monster Forest. They'd get killed or driven our naturally without us or the Harpies needing to do anything.>>37129623>The disucssion was about people moving in for money because of the mining opportunity.Yes, and what I said applies to that. So long as the Harpies give their blessing and those people are welcomed into the town, they'll be fine. If they're not accepted... They could move in and try to settle their own patch of the Monster Forest, if they want. But I wouldn't recommend it for their health.
>>37129724>Allowing Nin to conduct guided tours>Not expecting to be known everywhere as Queen of the forest within the year.
>>37129808I was talking about a settlement rather than individuals.
>>37129808>They could move in and try to settle their own patch of the Monster Forest, if they want.No they can't, because it was about settling to work in the mine. And they can't just settle anywhere and show up in there, because people would wonder "whos the new guy?".Otherwise your point is correct, just not when applied to the question of potnetial work migration to Oakring, which was the discussion.
We need a way to get arachne to do what we want. Mostly because I want us all to run a communal "highways" project to make safer walkways for the forest residents.Therefore, I say we need to find a commodity valuable to arachne in our travels. My guess is something delicious. or caffeine
You shake your head without looking back."I am just a spider, yes? A giant spider, but just a spider in the end."He snorts, and even seated away from him you can feel the brush of wind. He really is gigantic."I have met bigger, little one.""In any case, please don't pay her any attention. I am fairly certain she is not sane.""Ahhhh. I see. Do you wish her healed as well? The mind is but another piece of the puzzle."You are... Pretty sure he's joking.He laughs, voice ringing.Definitely joking then."I am only the sanest of them all, my lady! I offer my eternal service-""See? She is broken, yes.""So it seems.""Ah! That my lady would reject so humble a-""We can just pretend she is not speaking, yes? Can you tell me what the runes are?"The skull turns to face the stones you've lain beside, taking in the glowing letters across the stone.He nods, slowly."This one- A storm. Long ago. Fallen trees, the lake growing and growing."A long finger points to another stone."That one- When I was born. The next- The birth of the city.""History."He nods, slowly. "Yes. Stories. All of my stories, across my forest.""Is this why wendigo live alone?""We etch our stories into the woods. Our lives.""Mmm.">Could you tell us about the city?>You have met bigger spiders, yes? Seranthis?>How big are your lands, then?>Other (?)
>>37129887>You have met bigger spiders, yes? Seranthis?>Could you tell us about the city?History lesson!
>>37129887>Other (?)So, what do wendigos do for fun?Is it just the moss stuff and carvings?
>>37129887>>Could you tell us about the city?>>You have met bigger spiders, yes? Seranthis?
>>37129887>You have met bigger spiders, yes? Seranthis?>Could you tell us about the city?
>>37129887>Could you tell us about the city?
>>37129887>You have met bigger spiders, yes? Seranthis?If they're old friends, he might like to know where he's hanging out these days.>Could you tell us about the city?
>>37129887> How old are you? Are you older than the city? Older than Seranthis?> What was it like back in those days?
>>37129887>You have met bigger spiders, yes? Seranthis?
>>37129877>We need a way to get arachne to do what we want.Obviously we need to do it like a wandering martial artist and challenge each nest individually so we can make them swear allegiance to the one true Spider Queen.
City and Spiders!Writing!
>>37130060Nin. We are not a Queen. We are not subjugating the other Arachne. Now, for the last time, get off the computer!
>Spiders celebrate the turning of seasons, and currently hold a ceremony of remembrance in the ruins once a year, in late fall.We need to restore the ruins as much as possible before this! For all the spiders!
What season do we currently have?
>>37130207I'm guessing summer since there has been no mention of weather associated with other seasons.
>>37130289>Magical world filled with magical butts>Thinking that weather has to follow patternFor all we know, the Forest is perma-summer.
>>37130060Isn't that basically how the queen's werewolf companion brought all the werewolves into the fold?We'd not only be failing to come up with something new for the Arachne if we did that, but we'd also make it look like Shezka is just copying us.
>>37130289Where I come from summer is associated with thunderstorms, seasonal weather kinda depends on the locale.Might be late spring for all we know.
>>37130322No, the Queen only had her one pack. Other spiders did something similar and got their own packs and united them like that.
>>37130183you are entirely correct.
>>37130333I'm just going off the iconic seasons associated with forests. Rainy springs with ice melt and new plant growth, mild summers, autumn filled with changing leaves and some storms, cold snowy winters.
"Bigger... You have met Seranthis then? Or another, yes?"The skull swings back to you again, gold eyes shining. "It is good that the weavers remember. What he has done for you..."You shake your head."I have met him, yes. Jin, too. Beneath the ruins."The wendigo falls silent a moment, watching. "You have met the forest-walker, little one?""Yes."He strides forward, two easy steps putting him before you, and he kneels, each hand going to a knee. He watches you carefully, and you stay silent a moment before you speak again."When the city stood- Did you see it? Were you there?"You can practically feel Nin holding her breath behind you.She probably won't let this go for months."I was, child.""Can you tell us? What it was like. The walls and buildings and people, yes?"He looks up, eyes straining into the canopy.His voice is slow. Measured, gaining in tempo and volume."It was a different time. The forest was brighter, then. Perhaps the world was darker. We do not leave the forest, little one. Not now, not ever. We belong to the woods."He takes a breath."There was an arachne. And she came to us. To all the people of the woods. And she spoke of a brighter forest. Of comfort and strength and food- She promised each what they dreamed of.""And they followed her, little ones. She built a forest, a maze of stone. She gave each a place. And then-""Then?""Then came the clouds.""Small at first. Arguments. Foolishness between the people. Then the lizards broke the pact. The humans came. And the walls cracked."He shakes his head."They fought over what to do. To chase, to speak, to build higher. In the end, they did little. And the humans came again."
>>37130990"Many fled. Many hid. Some fought. And when the humans broke the walls, the queen shattered the city. Some, I think, did not understand. But I was there, little one. They held themselves as partners, and spread pretty words about giving everything for the city. But the ran, and the queen saw that the city was gone. The walls stood, but it was no more. So she shattered the walls and the army alike.""And the humans were lost, but so was the city."Nin lies silent behind you.>Do you think that it was really over then?>Was it good? While it lasted?>Why did everyone flee?>Other (?)
>>37131004>Was it good? While it lasted?
>>37131004>Do you think that it was really over then?>Was it good? While it lasted?
>>37131004>>Was it good? While it lasted?
>>37131004>Was it good? While it lasted?>Why did everyone flee?A shame it came tumbling down so fast. From what I gather, it wasn't even a multigenerational kingdom.
>>37131004> Was it good? While it lasted?> Why did they argue so much?
>>37131004>>Was it good? While it lasted?"Do you think it was worth it? Worth bringing back?"
>>37131079>A shame it came tumbling down so fast.We actually don't know how long it lasted, a lot of time passed between the first and second invasion, but we don't know how much. And Arachne live for centuries.
>>37131004>>Do you think that it was really over then?>>Was it good? While it lasted?
>>37131079>multigenerationalGiven the lifespan of upper tier monsters, that doesn't mean anything.From the Ask, we know there was at least one human generation between their first and last attack. Probably more.
>>37131004>Was it good? While it lasted?>Why did everyone flee?I think it's pretty important to find out why everyone just abandoned ship, while it's pretty clear that it was over wafter everyone abandoned ship, the queen that held everything togther was no more and the city was ruins.
>>37131004>Was it good? While it lasted?>Why did everyone flee?
Looking for answers.Writing!
Well, we don't need a king(queen?)dom to have highways.
>>37131215OP Is stuck in his own web
Nin's voice, small as it is, breaks the heavy silence first, her words clear, no matter how quiet."But- It lasted. It lasted, didn't it? At least a while. For however long. Wasn't it- Wasn't it good? Wasn't it better?"The wendigo is slow to answer, watching the moth with careful eyes."Than what?""This. This! All of this. Better than living with walls of fear and never knowing what is beyond the trees!""Are walls of stone so different?""I don't know. But- But I won't live like this. Not here. Even if it's nothing but a change of scenery. I won't- I'll-"You run your hand through her hair as she stares down, eyes locked on her clenched fists, glaring as hard as she can. Not in anger. You know this expression, at least. You know all about trying not to cry."It is okay, yes. If we cannot find freedom, we will build it, Nin.""Out of stone?""There are many, many things to build with. And time to do it in, yes.""Mmm. Lyra-"She smiles weakly, but she hugs you all the same, tucking her face into your shoulder and hiding there. You tilt your head, resting it lightly on Nin's, and letting ou glance back towards your host."Why did all the people flee, yes? Why did it end? Even without the city...""Hrrrmn. Too many people, pulling in every direction. Fighting their instincts, each other. And without the city and the queen, there was nothing to keep them in one place. They returned to their lands- They kept the pacts, if nothing else. The Arachne stayed close to the harpies, close to the moths. They watch the forest, the ruins."A free hand rubs small circles over the moth's head, patting hair and offering comfort."Was it really over, then? Just like that?"He shakes his head."It was years and years coming."
>>37132238"Was it the city? In part, at least? I do not think many monsters would be comfortable in a place like that.""Perhaps. I visited in passing. Cities hold nothing for us.""Mmm.""The failures of the past need only be kept in mind, children. Not dwelt upon. You will find no solace there.""Yes.""Your friend is safe. You are young. Find an answer all your own."You nod._________________________________________________________The wendigo takes you to the edge of circle, as he calls it. You step beyond the reaches of their forest, and the first filtered rays of sunlight strike you. Nin has offered up her space to Lann for sitting- Or rather, she has taken Lann's prior spot, standing behind you, arms over your shoulders. You wave goodbye to the ancient creature, stepping into a world of light, your friends and your sister at your side.
>>37132256>That's it for tonight!>Sorry for the messy week! Holidays are over, so we should be back to normal for the next one!>We'll pick up again monday, 2PM EST!>Comments, questions and concerns answered in thread!
>>37132307Thanks for running. Guess now we're going back home and then to Oakring... and adventure!
>>37132307Thanks for running.
>>37132320The question is; what route do we want to take?Just go back down the river, or see something new?
>>37132307Thanks for running. Good Night.
>>37132320>>37132354>>37132355Thanks for playing!
>>37132357I say we go back down the river. I'd play a banjo, too, if we had one.And also I think arachne are incapable of playing string instruments for long. you need to pluck them with moderate force, we have blade fingers...
>>37132357There are still many forest races to find, I'm kinda disappointed we didn't ask after what races exist.I thought asking after the city would cover that.
>>37132307Thanks for the thread. Can Lann get a pastebin next time you're updating the existing ones?
>>37132371>>37132401Thanks for playing!I'll work something out.
>>37132256>"The failures of the past need only be kept in mind, children. Not dwelt upon. You will find no solace there."The wise learn from the mistakes of the past.Clearly, being over centralized didn't work long term. Not surprising. Just look at human civilization, how much we pull apart with differences in priorities, ideology and self interest. Now imagine multiple races with fundamental differences and basic needs.Something less centralized .... No big capitol city. Smaller villages in each territory, to allow coordination, trade and intermingling of the races for those who wished. But leaving most free to the old ways, as they wish.Thoughts? Other ideas?
>>37132484A Federation that lets individual monsterkin govern themselves locally and a slim bueraucracy to manage matters of forest wide concern.A city might be good location for that central body, but species that resent cities would probably feel excluded, so a mixed central settlement merging the individual nesting and housing styles would probably work better.
>>37132484We could start by holding a biweekly market in a fortified area.That way we can learn about the different races in the area first hand and go from there. People would slowly get used to interact more with each other again.
>>37132484What about a series of monster states, maybe, all with their own governments and laws, but they all answer to and follow specific laws of one federal government?We'll call it the Unified Provinces.
>>37132551>a mixed central settlement merging the individual nesting and housing styles>Not a cityA city by any other name. Anon, you just described the old capitol city perfectly.Based on what the Wendigo said, that was the problem. The different races mixing in ways that ran counter to their preferences and instincts.I think decentralized is the way to go.>individual monsterkin govern themselves locally and a slim bureaucracy to manage matters of forest wide concern.Took the words out of my mouth. Smaller scattered villages to house the 'Local Councils' and bureaucracy.
>>37132738>A city by any other name. Anon, you just described the old capitol city perfectly.No thats exactly what it not was, the city was built from stone, which none of the settlements of the monsterkin are. That was exactly the problem, it was too unlike their own settlements, and that made them feel trapped.Cities are not the only kind of settlement.
>>37132551I like the concept of city because it allows for a centralized body to govern the massive amount of territory that is the forest. In addition to which it is infinitely easier to defend from any invading force, what with it's massive defensive structures. Just because some monsters might be against the concept for fear of loosing autonomy doesn't mean it should be abandoned. Even if a city was used primarily as a symbolic capitol for a somewhat federated government, it would still be vital to any kind of state the monsterfolk might build.
>>37132772>the city was built from stone. That was exactly the problemYou think the building material used was the issue? Go back and read again.
>>37132831You know what they say from people who repeat the same action expecting different results.A city for all, didn't work. A sort of central settlement is proabably necessary to house the goverment, but that can be a fairly small, walless affair. Its a friggin forest full of monster races, there is a whole lot more than walls we can built for defesnive structures, that won't make the people uncomfortable.
>>37132831>I like the concept of city because it allows for a centralized body to govern the massive amount of territory that is the forest.From the description of wendibro, it was a centralized population that was the problem.A fixed seat of power with representatives of the races could work, but a full scale city is evidently a problem.
>>37132889>>>>>>The Point>>>>>Your Head
>>37132974At least its a problem right from the start. The Queen tried to force urban migration which was probably the issue, over time a central settlement can grow into a city when generations grow up that become increasingly more familiar with that lifestyle.
>>37132985The irony, it burns!>"Why did all the people flee, yes? Why did it end? Even without the city...">"Hrrrmn. Too many people, pulling in every direction. Fighting their instincts, each other.Too many people living together, used to a very different lifestyle. Different priorities and agendas. Different wants and needs.These are the things that divide people. These are the sources of contention.Why the fuck would the building material matter? If they all hated stone architecture, they'd just build it out of something else.That's a non-issue.
I say we just get folk to try to patrol their areas better, and try to get spiders and others to make safe zones to go through.
>>37133052Yeah, that could happen over time with gradual cultural change. But to be successful it's something you need to let happen naturally. Or not, as the case may be.
>>37132974Keep in mind this is a Wendigo we're talking about, and it's pretty clear they are not entirely unbiased on the subject of urban settlements. There are plenty of monsterfolk who would love the idea, notably the harpies and moths. As a political structure, it doesn't have to be the sole body of decision making in the entire kingdom, but a central settlement which holds the bureaucracy and trade. As a physical structure it could house and defend the more social breeds of forest folk and a possible trading hub with the outside world.
>>37133124I do like the webhighway idea, it would allow for faster travel among the different parts of the forest.In those parts of the forest no one else lives, we could let Arachne settle nests as waystations of sorts, since they need to settle far away from other races anyway, and due to their enormous natural strength make perfect guardians.> notably the harpies and mothsThere is a notable difference of lifestyle between villages and cities though, so we don't know if both of them would actually enjoy those.The problem with a city that doesn't house all the races would be a overrepresentation of certain races in the governing body, which could cause problems again.Even more so, because it would mean this city dwelling population would develop culturally very far away from the majority of the population living in the forest, creating the strong threat of a isolated urban elite developing ove rtime.
>>37133169Yes, at least some would be happy with that. There would even be individuals of races that, as a whole, didn't favour city life that would like it themselves.Creating a single large settlement would probably be less practical, at the start at least, than many smaller settlements.Those that wanted to mix would be able to do so, while the others wouldn't need to.
>>37133266>many smaller settlements.That's definitely something that needs to be done. We're trying to build a country here, not a single city. Keeping in touch with the more isolated tribes would be next to impossible without them.>>37133226Again, there's no reason politcal activity and decision making needs to be limited to a single settlement. I'm talking about urban engineering here, not political structure.
>>37133362>there's no reason politcal activity and decision making needs to be limited to a single settlementNot all political activety no. But there needs to be a place for the governing body that makes decisions for the whole of the forest community if we want a united forest. Assuming that is what we want of course, that might take the form of a collection of settlements. A wandering court ala Charlemagne. A forest Althing. A small settlement just for that purpose or many many others, but there needs to be a place where that central governing body can gather, simply for ease of communication.Its a lot more efficient to send messenger from and to a central place, then to send them between dozens of places.In a Federation of course there will be political activety in a lot of other places besides the central governing body, might even be the majority of it.
>>37133362>I'm talking about urban engineering here, not political structure.It would probably be easiest not to bother. Just let it happen naturally.Founding, at least, small settlements to house the local administration and required bureaucracy in each would be a must. After that, just leave it to the races involved. Those that liked the urban like would settle in larger numbers.Those that like mixing more freely with other races would make them more welcome to settle.Of course, we'd offer support and resources to allow growth, but we'd leave the decision making to them....... And holy crap, look at this discussion, Nin had corrupted us all.
>>37133481>And holy crap, look at this discussion, Nin had corrupted usThere is a moth in all of us anon!
>>37133493>There is a moth in all of us anon!If Dr. Love had his way there will be.
>>37133478>if we want a united forestIt might be better to just do things that allow for easier travel and communication among the forest races. It can grow together organically.The example of the Harpiey, Moths and Spiders show how certain races fit together naturally, we just need to encourage that and everything else will come with time.
Hey, I just had a thought.You know how the adventurer guidebook said arachne could open their face all predator style?Have we ever actually TRIED to do that? Or looked at a mirror while we gave our scariest hiss?