Fires spread and alarms echo through the facility as your remaining workers move through the air ducts of the Union research facility. Your flies patrol the area, scouting the halls for your workers and observing the panic of the humans as they run about the halls blindly.“What’s happening?” A technician asks a nearby guard. Your fly watches from the shadows.“There’s been a breach, everyone needs to get to the hangar, we’re evacuating the base. Leave your stuff, there’s no time!” He shouts.Your worker examines the small device taken from the humans. It looks old and worn, but seems similar to current human tech. You wonder what data on this could be so important that Seiner would be left behind to try to save it.Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone>Discussion page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Quest
>>36901116>Current armory269 Thorn Launchers20 Thorn Cannons123 Sting Casters30 Cyclotrons15 Rotary Stingers3 Fire Sprays5 Plasma Spray>Current resource reservesNutrients: 658051Metals: 408134Credits: ₡2326Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡577,450>Hive population and upkeep cost Hive maintenance – 534Queen – 5Fake Queen (2) – 44Worker (4000) – 8000Aquatic Worker (40) – 160Vacuum Worker (200) – 1200Radiator Worker (100) – 400Warrior (209) – 1045Aquatic Warrior (20) – 140Thinker (500) – 1500Quantum Thinker (150) – 750Speaker – (3) – 12Digger (80) – 320Refinery (10) – 70Sniffer (2) – 8Small Sniffer (200) – 200Fly (50) – 200Wasp (100) – 500Haz-mat Workers (20) – 80Shock Troops (40) – 520Parasite (30) – 120Bio-tank (10) – 250Excavator (200) – 3800Colossus (20) – 300Advanced Relay (68) – 6800 (set as default method of ship control)Upkeep: 26958N>Hive fleetSpace Pod (28) – 840Shuttle (10) – 250Mining Corvette (4) – 800Scout Corvette (6) – 1350Lancer Corvette (2) – 450Fleet Corvette (4) – 900Stealth Frigate (4) – 1952Heavy Cruiser (4) – 486011402NClone upkeep/special projects and expenses25 Human captives of the USV Hope – 7503 Human hybrid clones in production – 180Lyle Rogers – 47977NTotal upkeepNutrient costs: 39337>IncomeMetals: 76500Nutrients: 100050Net: 60713
>>36901130Hive Territory[G-426]Asteroid mining base: 5 Excavators, 20 Diggers, +2250M per day (+50 M per digger, +250 per excavator)*Leeland (capital)Defensive structures>Anti-orbital batteries: 2/35 (250N)Military structures>Hangar facilities: Room for 40 Aero/fighter Drones and 20 Shuttles (25N)>Spring Mountain Hive: Original hive contains decoy queen within throne room>*Secondary Mountain Hive: Actual site of Throne Room>Clarke Research Outpost>Hel’s Angel Prison OutpostIndustrial structures>Docking Pylon: (4) (200N)[4 Heavy Cruisers][Empty docks: 12/16]Economic Structures>Mine: 195 Excavators, 60 Diggers, +50250 M per day (+25 M per digger, +250 per excavator)>Algae Farm: +100000 N per day, 1000 Workers (1 worker per 100N)M-662Raligha – Automated: defensive focus (No trade active)Defensive structures>Anti-orbital batteries: 4/35 (500N)Economic structures>Bloodroot collectors: A series of pipes and veins running from the roots of several of the nearest Bloodroot trees provide a passive and low maintenance source of nutrient income, +250N per day (5)>Greenwall pit: Variable income (6 workers consumed in accidents, 2 containment breaches, 1 warrior wounded, average harvest provides net gain of 500N, thinkers report testing not yet complete)>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per day>Mine: +30M per day (thinkers report soft soils and low mineral supplies are severely hampering metal production, and as a result anti-orbital battery construction, and request supplement of 46500M to complete anti-orbital grid)M-323>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N)[Empty docks: 4/4]>Mining corvette salvage operations +4000M per day (+1000M per corvette)
>>36901154Current Construction4 Heavy cruisersNew Construction Options>Algae Farm – +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain>Hangar Expansion – Add on to current hangar facilities for your choice of +40 aero/fighter drone space, or +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Anti-orbital battery – A bunker armed with a massive Particle beam capable of attacking ships in orbit from the ground. It includes the power and sensor systems required to operate it. 250N 1500M>Docking Pylon – A large spire or station that contains space for docking and construction of 4 ships, or a single capital ship if placed in orbit. 100N 300M>Surface to Orbit Missile System – This massive bunker complex houses a wide range of warheads and a nigh limitless number of missiles within its protective walls, allowing you to launch missiles against approaching invaders from the safety of your hive. The facility uses the ship missile stats and comes equipped with a single Cruise missile silo that can target any detected object within the system, five Stinger missile silos capable of targeting any craft within high orbit, and ten Swarm missile silos specialized in targeting high altitude aircraft and low orbiting targets. The facility itself is a massive complex spread out over several miles, and includes guidance and launch equipment, as well as the means to construct and maintain a stock of warheads and missiles. (1500N 2500M)Ship Construction Optionshttp://pastebin.com/YTwGk8n1
Yes~ Time for best quest!inb4 there was something really sweet and heartwarming about his family on the drive and we're going to feel bad for going all aliens.
>>36901184I'm just hoping destroying it doesn't win, it can be useful if we can get unity to come and get it.
>>36901176Finished research>Acid sprayThis alternate version to the fire and plasma spray spews a stream of caustic molecular acid over its foes, causing horrific chemical burns and melting through armor. Decreases the effectiveness of a target's armor and causes chemical damage over time, but otherwise holds the same statistics as the fire and plasma spray.>Broken CrystalUpon inspection of this strange crystal your initial assumptions were that it was a kind of spent ammunition, a waste byproduct of the Psionic Cannon, and you were correct, mostly. It appears to be the corpse of a Void Shard, and while it is indeed junk in a way, its strange aura of absence and unsettling silence could yet hold a use.New research unlocked>Psionic ShroudSlowYour thinkers have been working over the strange and unsettling silence of the broken crystals you have collected and several of your quantum thinkers have theorized of using them to develop a kind of mute effect. In theory it could offer a way to muffle the mental sounds of your hive's thoughts from other hives.Current researchhttp://pastebin.com/F6t39KSp
Oh shit, if they're evacuating that means they're probably gonna blow the base- either rush to a computer to get the data or stealthily extract the workers from the surface.
>>36901217Stealing a ship and getting the hell out of here?
>>36901217They might just send troops instead.
>>36901206WTF IS THAT?
>>36901206I wonder if there will eventually be a nano-spray upgrade. That'd be pretty cool.
>>36901217I think they might not nuke it, but they could send pesticide or soldiers down there to clear us out, either way this base is gonna be empty and we should capitalize on that.>>36901237Thats just asking to get shot at.Our drones are basically dead except for the flies of course.
>>36901263Quest drone hinted at a chance for nano grenades being possible, but that would be later in the tech tree.
>>36901263>>36901294What about nano workers? Instead of worker drones, it's swarms of psionically controlled nanobot drones.or would that just be shit?
so how should we send the metal to Raligha?
Am I the only one that feels kinda bad that we went "Aliens" over everyone? I mean, it was fun as hell. And I fully supported it when it happened. But I have this odd soft-spot for humans. I want to have them "Adopted" into the hive, or something.I just hope this doesn't come out and end up screwing us in the long run.
>>36901323We could always start heavy mining underground or turn N into M if they are desperate enough.
>>36901206Your flies watch as panicked humans sprint down hallways in various uniforms from medical scrubs to combat armor and bland fatigues or civilian dress.Hive forces in the facility4 Flies5 Workers>Have your drones work their way to the surface>Find a computer and analyze the data taken from Seiner>Other>>36901253Wasp pattern mantid fly. It's actually harmless to humans and doesn't have a sting, it just looks terrifying.>>36901294>>36901263Honestly my biggest issue is trying to draw the line between bioweapons and nanomachines, since you already blur the line between them.
>>36901327We could research a way to make breathable spores that turn into parasites if you want to "adopt" them.
>>36901217>>36901237We have a cloaked Space Pod in orbit, due to our recent engine upgrades they can now enter and exit a planets atmosphere by themselves. Said space pod has the capacity to hold five drones.
>>36901327I don't mind it, and i'm one of the human alliance supporters(i personally hate the borg train of thought some anons are going with).Plus this is a secret base, from what we can tell, and i doubt they can spin this positively too much.
>>36901176>>Surface to Orbit Missile System – This massive bunker complex houses a wide range of warheads and a nigh limitless number of missiles within its protective walls, allowing you to launch missiles against approaching invaders from the safety of your hive. The facility uses the ship missile stats and comes equipped with a single Cruise missile silo that can target any detected object within the system, five Stinger missile silos capable of targeting any craft within high orbit, and ten Swarm missile silos specialized in targeting high altitude aircraft and low orbiting targets. The facility itself is a massive complex spread out over several miles, and includes guidance and launch equipment, as well as the means to construct and maintain a stock of warheads and missiles. (1500N 2500M)we need a couple of these on Leeland just in case
>>36901345>Find a computer and analyze the data taken from SeinerSee if we can open a crack for unity.
>>36901345>>Find a computer and analyze the data taken from SeinerWe should have some time, Right?Right?
>>36901345>Find a computer and analyze the data taken from Seiner
>>36901345>OtherHead to the hanger to sneak onto a ship
>>36901345>Have your drones work their way to the surface
>>36901345>>Find a computer and analyze the data taken from Seiner
>>36901345>Find a computer and analyze the data taken from SeinerMost of our drones were never meant to come back, these guys are already expensive lets get everything we can out of them(the flies stay though if they can stay hidden long enough)
>>36901345>Have your drones work their way to the surfaceWe sabotaged the power and there's a roaring fire in the middle of the facility, I doubt we'll be able to find a functioning computer in time.
>>36901345The flies have qauntum brains for this mission right?I forgot if we equipped every drone with one for this mission.
>>36901345>Find a computer and analyze the data taken from SeinerAnd then destroy it and the drones
>>36901443QD said we'd have a chance to analyze the data.
I'm still up for opening a crack for unity to run away like a bandit if we can.
>>36901443That depends on dice.
>>36901364We could load Seiner's severed head onto that pod for retrieval later.
>>36901345Your flies move out in all directions in search of a functioning computer. The facility contains numerous power stations and multiple redundancies on several levels, so while your drones had disrupted the main power grid, there appears to be sparse and inconsistent power supplied to some of the offices and labs, however most of the computer systems important enough to be powered by backups also appear to be under security lock.Please roll 1d100, best of 3 to find a usable computer terminal.
Rolled 77 (1d100)>>36901553
Rolled 45 (1d100)>>36901553
Rolled 89 (1d100)>>36901553
Rolled 82 (1d100)>>36901553So did we give the flies quantum brains for this mission?>>36901573Nice
>>36901584>So did we give the flies quantum brains for this mission?Asking if Flies have Quantum Brains is like ask if the sky is blue.
>>36901616The original design never has them, i know since i conceded on not giving them when i was trying to push them a long time ago, i figured its better to ask since both the speaker and the workers had them, and i figured people might think that was enough.
>>36901649We gave all the drones on this mission quantum brains from what I remember.
>>36901773Thanks, i'm hoping we can hide our flies and just kill off the workers.
>>36901786We have a pod in orbit we're controlling them directly.
>>36901773The Flies were not or this mission. They were for the Earth mission.People randomly decided to reassign a couple to go into the station orbiting Mars to follow the caged 11 drones instead.
>>36901832Quantum brain gives bones to rolls, on top of their advance senses, so it eliminates most shitty rolls.
>>36901553Your flies find a small data terminal in one of the offices. It is under a security lock, but you seem to recognize the clearance request. You recall the numbers Seiner had entered on the console in the lab to access the security system, and your flies hop up and down on the keys. The terminal lights up in response as your workers enter the office.Before your drones plug in the data storage device you make note of an alert scrolling across the console.[CODE BLACK: XENOLOGICAL CONTAINMENT LEAK. ALL PERSONNEL REPORT TO SURFACE FOR EVACUATION AND QUARANTINE. AN ORBITAL STRIKE HAS BEEN ORDERED ON THIS FACILITY DUE TO UNKNOWN CONTAMINATION THREAT OF SPECIMENS, PLEASE REMAIN CALM AND REPORT TO THE HANGAR IN A TIMELY MANNER. LEAVE ALL PERSONAL EFFECTS.]Your worker plugs in the small device and the computer beeps in response. A small file opens on the screen with a number of folders within. Most are standard holo-video recordings labeled by date and time, the last is an audio file.>Look through the logs in order>Play the audio recording first>Take the data stick and try to reach the surface before the orbital strike>Other
>>36901866>OtherSee if we can give access to unity, if they are destroying this place than giving him access should save most of this data.
>>36901866When is the oldest date and time of the vids?>>36901866>>Take the data stick and try to reach the surface before the orbital strike
>>36901866>>OtherGive unity a chance to hack, while our flies do this.>>36901866>Take the data stick and try to reach the surface before the orbital strike
>>36901866>Take the data stick and try to reach the surface before the orbital strike
>>36901866>Take the data stick and try to reach the surface before the orbital strikeWe can take a look at it later
>>36901866I fucking told you they were gonna blow the base!>Take the data stick and try to reach the surface before the orbital strikeMy gut instinct is to run and get all the data as opposed to getting nuked midway through reading it.
>>36901866>Take the data stick and try to reach the surface before the orbital strikeWe can watch it at home
>>36901908If we can get an outside connection i would be amazed, but i doubt we have the time. We can either get partial info now, or we can dash for the surface in a all or nothing gambit.
>>36901967>>36901966>>36901961>>36901978We only need one drone to survive, lets see if we can find a way for unity to hack this place.
>>36901866Toldja to take it and rendesvous with the cloaked Pod on the surface. Now: >Other we should keep Seiner's head in a jar as a trophy, too.
>>36902003>not taking the head and cloning the mother fucker so that we can get all his secrets.
>>36901866>>Take the data stick and try to reach the surface before the orbital strike
>>36902028He doesn't need a whole body. Just a head.
>>36902042Did you read what i siad?
>>36902028>>36902042Fairly sure we need a still living specimen to actually copy over memories. Otherwise I'd ask to maybe take the final girl with us.If he's dead we'll only be able to make memories for him, which is useless.
>>36902069nah we only need their brain for the memories, and why do you want the girl?
>>36902069Memorys are stored as precise placement of proteins on a cell surface. Provided the brain is still fresh (a day or so? depends if cooled), it should still be possible to aha, plug in and play.
>>36902063Getting all his secrets from his brain was already part of the idea. Cloning doesn't help get secrets, it just adds more bodyparts, his memories aren't in his DNA.
>>36901866>Take the data stick and try to reach the surface before the orbital strike>OtherCan Thesus help stop the orbital strike?
>>36902095Because I kinda like the idea of the finals girl surviving in some way, I have a bit of a soft spot.
>>36902063He's not a Queen dumbass.
>>36902142You should really have a doctor check that out.
>>36902168>>36902131I know, but who said about cloning the entire body?
>>36902182I did, he called me a faggot and that I should stop being a pussy.
>>36902136Probably not, because if they find out it was thesus who stopped the orbital strike that just happened to have a new alien race in it that was interacted with before, we'd have to kill like half the human race and I don't really want to do that.
>>36902193What the hell would cloning accomplish if not adding more body parts.
>>36902234A fresh head, instead of a decomposing one.>>36902215Like i said lets clone him.
>>36902028Clones do not gain memory's of the originator unless a part of a bio engineering species like the hive.
I support the idea of doubling back on the way out to get Seiner's head, and possibly the final girl if we're passing her way.We can always split up drones to do less important tasks, (Like getting the girl,) so the ones with important data don't have to slow down.
>>36902266Im fine with this.
>>36902286>>36902266What is it with you and getting the girl?
>>36902246Either 1) you get a fresh head with no memories, which is useless. 2) you can copy the memories from the existing head into the fresh one, in which case you don't NEED the fresh one, 3) you can revive the existing head in the regen tank so it's fresh again. Use some logic anon.
>>36902303I'm trying to compromise, it's a personal interest that doesn't necessarily get in the way of other's interests.
>>36902265>part of a bio engineering species like the hive.What?I thought we could give clones memories of the original as long as we had the originals brain.>>36902307I noticed the flaw as well.
lets just get the fuck outta dodge with the memory stick, no need to risk it
>>36901866Your orbiting pod pivots and finds an approaching human frigate, the USV Sulaco. Several shuttles drift down to the planet below. Your thinkers quickly calculate its course. You have less than an hour before it is in position to fire.Meanwhile your flies have found several routes to the surface. The most direct would be through the hangar bay, although it will likely be guarded. The less direct but likely safer route would be several emergency ventilation ducts connected to the apartment block level. >Move through the hangar bay (most direct, highest risk of combat)>Move through the ventilation ducts (takes most time, lowest risk of combat)>Other>Recover the head of Seiner with a free worker>Leave his body
>>36902347>>Move through the ventilation ducts (takes most time, lowest risk of combat)>>Recover the head of Seiner with a free worker
>>36902327Accessing them in a kind of download would be immensely weird and hard to do.
>>36902347>Recover the head of Seiner with a free worker>Move through the hangar bay (most direct, highest risk of combat)The flies go through herewhile the worker with the head goes through here.>Move through the ventilation ducts (takes most time, lowest risk of combat)
>>36902347>Recover the head of Seiner with a free worker
>>36901327It was a top secret lab where they were carrying out illegal research. What are they going to say?
>>36902347>Move through the ventilation ducts (takes most time, lowest risk of combat)Though I wonder if we couldn't simply dig through the walls>Recover the head of Seiner with a free worker
>>36902347>Move through the ventilation ducts (takes most time, lowest risk of combat)>Recover the head of Seiner with a free worker
>>36902347>Move through the ventilation ducts (takes most time, lowest risk of combat)>Recover the head of Seiner with a free workerThere's no risk involved if we just send a free worker, if we lose it, oh well. The others can still get out safely.
>>36902347>>Move through the ventilation ducts (takes most time, lowest risk of combat)>Recover the head of Seiner with a free worker
>>36902347>>Move through the hangar bay (most direct, highest risk of combat)The Flies can stealth it through easily>>Move through the ventilation ducts (takes most time, lowest risk of combat)Workers do this, since they can't hide.>Recover the head of Seiner with a free worker
>>36902370>Accessing them in a kind of download would be immensely weird and hard to do.It's canon, though. Parasite drones have full access to host memories, as would just putting the subject inside a Regen Tank.
>>36902370look at> however such memories can be implanted. If the original is readily available the experiences, memories, and skillsets can be copied to the clone prior to its completion. Such clones will believe themselves to be the original and if confronted with their falsehood they will deny it vehemently. False memories or isolated experiences, knowledge, or training can be given to a clone in the same way, and can be used to ensure the clone is well skilled in a desired field. Such memories can be from multiple other subjects, or simply be fabricated by the thinker overseeing the project.http://pastebin.com/z4yZdEbK
>>36902347>Move through the ventilation ducts (takes most time, lowest risk of combat)>Recover the head of Seiner with a free workerWe've been able to get around pretty fat in the vents before, shouldn't be too different now right?
>>36902412True, but thats in an active nervous system that hasent started to degrade upon moment of death.I doubt by time we get back that we will have anything more than a jumbled mess to decypher. Mind, if even a single memory sequence is gained it will be worth while, so its all ok with me.
>>36902347Can a Fly carry the data chip or is it too conspicuous/big?
>>36902462You do realize that is only possible because of our innate bioengineering status as a species?Insanely complicated and difficult for everyone else.
>>36902513They already carried it see. >>36901553>>36901866I just don't see why people are against splitting them up and letting the stealthy drones slip by the shortcut and have the workers go the long way.
What if we make a fake distress signal from Seiner saying help, I'm not evacuated yet, delay the firing! Then if they come to try and rescue him, they just find the headless body. ...Ah who am I kidding humans won't pause to save an individual life in this kind of emergency.
>>36902518Yes, i know, but you say it like its gonna be impossible for us.
>>36902518But that line isn't talking about hive drones, it's clearly talking about memories implanted into and taken from aliens, anon. Our drones don't even HAVE long term memories if they're not thinkers or have quantum brains.
>>36902572Its all dependable on head freshness. Do we have a health pod in space? because if we really want the memorys we need to cut down the timer since death to a minimum. Get one on a ship into orbit and meet up, transfer the head asap if we manage to get out of this.
>>36902564could be worth a try,might work if we claim that he has important data
>>36902616Just let his head out into the ice cold of space to keep it fresh.
>>36902638Ice crystals will form in the cells and destroy the soft tissue, along with the memory's.
>>36902638Would the radiation and cold not wreck it? Never mind getting dragged behind a spaceship.
>>36902616We blink in a replacement pod to the system to switch places with the existing pod carrying the data stick and Seiner's brain. Get it into the hive quickly that way. Just have to move into an position where the blink flash's visibility is blocked.
>>36902655>>36902677Not too long, but long enough to slow the decaying processes than, plus our ships are pretty speedy.
>>36902696Its not like you can hang someones head out a spaceship just a little bit dude. they just aren't meant for that. Never mind that moving into a safe position to jump away from could take as long as a day. Maybe even more.
This turned from space bug madness to severed head preservation weirdly fast.
>>36902775I bet at this point its not even worth it. He is in pretty much the worst condition's for preservation. He could be on fire by now.
>>36902347Your worker moves to extract the device from the computer when a thinker stops it."No no, thing bad. Use like this."The worker selects through several menus on the computer as the alarms echo through the halls. It selects an option and the computer clicks as a small dialog box opens and the light on the data stick goes out. It promptly rips the stick from its port and rushes down the hall. Your workers split up, one heading back to the body of Seiner while the others rush to the vents and head to the surface. It is a long ways to go, and time is short.Please roll 2d100, best of 3. First is for workers with the data, second is for workers retrieving Seiner's head.>>36902464It's more that the vents don't take a direct route, while the hangar goes directly to the surface.
Rolled 91, 12 = 103 (2d100)>>36902808I won't ask for the final girl unless we get something really high
Rolled 54, 73 = 127 (2d100)>>36902808
Rolled 39, 52 = 91 (2d100)>>36902808
>>36902824Welp, The data is safe!
Rolled 53, 96 = 149 (2d100)>>36902855the hell?its already late, but still
>>36901850>>36901773>>36901649Why don't we just upgrade the flies with quantum brains than, since this has shown that our pods and mental reach can be anywhere.
>>36902824She dead friend. Impalement is surprisingly dangerous.
>>36902824Can you stop it with your dead waifu already.
>>36902954this, let the dead bitch beand she's probably burnt to a crisp by now
Rolled 13, 74 = 87 (2d100)>>36902808
>>36902891If mental reach can be anywhere, why would we need quantum brains?
W-Well, every ruler needs a harem..
>>36903060Helps with rolls.>>36903089Not us.
>>36903119Yes, every harem, I explicitly typed every harem.
>>36903060Meant to say everywhere, and i the recent threads have shown that our pods/thus us can be everywhere mentally(that is until we put up more pods or antennas in more places).the only reason the drones were able to stay hidden was thanks to the brains in the workers and speaker.
>>36902954>>36903030I hope QD writes an update in which she painfully tries to crawl to the escape pods and just as she thinks she's going to start to make it, everything glows blue and she has a fraction of a fraction of a second of freakout before being vaporized by the orbital strike.
>>36903134No you didn't.
>>36903165Pretty sure getting stuck in the chest did it for her. Lots of important things in the chest.
>>36902808>thinkers know proper flash drive removalSmarter than most people
>>36903381He didn't have any files open, so it wasn't that bad.
>>36901377I think just one and finishing the Anti-orbital battery would work better. Missiles are expensive.
>>36903204Good thing we got those regen tanks. Oh wait....
We should sabotage that ass hole guy, from changing the government to be more like a dictator ship, he's gonna make alliances a pain to do.
>>36903456There is a difference between healing someones wounds and bringing them back from the dead.
>>36902808"I'd like to thank you all for coming tonight. I know these election years can be hectic but nothing is more important to our freedom and liberty then the right to the vote, I-"Conrad stands at the end of a large table, his shuttle had landed halfway through the party and he had been giving his speech ever since. A large man in a suit whispers something in his ear and the mask of hospitality cracks, although it's difficult to tell for certain with the public new's low quality news broadcast. He gathers his thoughts and continues his speech, although his voice almost quivers in anger. He masks it well.Your workers clamer through the vents as fast as they can, the data stick hanging from its keychain around your worker's neck in the lead, and in the rear a worker carried the dripping head of Seiner in its mandibles. Your pod droops down into the atmosphere to find a landing zone in the otherwise barren landscape as the Sulaco drifts into position. The last of the evacuation shuttles take off and you hear the crack of thunder as a missile bursts through the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds, the air quickly slowing it to something vaguely considered a reasonable velocity. Another follows through the clouds, then another.Your drones break through a sealed steel door to the surface and a mix of sand, heat, and whipping winds strikes them. The planet itself is actually quite lovely, perfect weather for your drones, and the pod's shimmering form floats nearby, its thrusters sending sand up in a maelstrom around it. It takes off with your drones, riding the shockwave of a half-dozen nuclear strikes.>Bring your drones home with the data and sample>Drop your drones back on the planet in a nearby mountain and take the samples to the hive>Other>Have your pod blink immediately>Have your pod blink away safely (move 1 light day away. May result in sample loss.)>Other>>36903428The launch facility is actually intended as something built once per planet.
>>36903534>>Bring your drones home with the data and sample>>Have your pod blink immediatelyCan we tell unity what we did?
>>36903534>Bring your drones home with the data and sample>Have your pod blink immediatelyThe strike might cover our escape.
>>36903534>>Bring your drones home with the data and sample>>Have your pod blink immediatelyGo go goMan this is intense.>>36903581They're the ones that asked us to kill Steiner personally.
>>36903534>Bring your drones home with the data and sample"Nothing could've survived that" no reason to leave these drones behind. >Have your pod blink immediatelyA random Solar flare or glint of light in a post-nuclear explosion is not suspicious.
>>36903534>Drop your drones back on the planet in a nearby mountain and take the samples to the hive>Have your pod blink away safely (move 1 light day away. May result in sample loss.)Dont forget the data as well. Its not like we are stuck for worker drones and these guys are totally expendable.
>>36903534>Bring your drones home with the data and sample>Have your pod blink immediately
>>36903581I imagine if unity could laugh it would, at the severed head and ensuing story of bull we pulled.Backing this vote btw.However: have the pod jump to another system before home first. Throw off any tail.
>>36903534>Bring your drones home with the data and sample>Have your pod blink immediately>Inform the Unity
>>36903534and tell unity that we killed steiner
>>36903616Just to get his reaction, and have him tell us any question he would like answered from the brain.
>>36903534>>Bring your drones home>>36903534>>Have your pod blink immediatelyWait. Actually. If we take drones home immediately. Can the blink be disguised as part of the explosion?
>>36903534What ever we do, lets tell unity, i'm surprised he isn't asking about the other AI as well.
>>36903641>tailThe blink drive does its FTL in hops of 5 lightyears anyway unless we want to roll, we already stop in several places along the way. It is completely impossible to "tail" it even if it didn't. Also we can always send a new pod back to Gliese system to drop off drones onto a nearby mountain tomorrow if we want to bother exploring later.
>>36903746What other AI?
>>36903534>>Have your pod blink immediately with the head and Drop your drones back on the planet in a nearby mountain to guard the data stick.Then come back and have your pod blink away safely with the data stick.
>>36903581>>36903674>>36903679QD already promised we'd get Unity's reaction. I would like to exclude extracting Seiner's head from the story, since we may be cloning/resurrecting him in the future and that may anger Theseus. I also think we should ask for a reward or sell the information of his fate- "He died by our hand" without the head part
>>36903799I think he meant the Skyl AI, Heretic.
>>36903831>since we may be cloning/resurrecting him in the future and that may anger TheseusWhy the fuck would we even bother to? It's only a waste of resources at this point.
>>36903831I'm sure he'd appreciate a holovid reproduction of the moment we stabbed him in the heart. That that, cyberdad!
>>36903831I highly doubt any normal human has the capability to escape the hive unassisted. Our basic worker is a nightmare machine in and of itself to humans, let alone warriors.We are only going to extract anything of value from the head and then digest it, cloning is not required.
>>36903860Probably for spying purposes, but than again they would probably be suspicious in the first place, and scan him.
>>36903821>>36903834Didnt we just sort of spring that on him? Its not really an AI in the same sense as he is anyway since its made of the memories of thousands of Skyl
>>36903896Who the hell are we going to use a dead man to spy on?
If we revive Seiner, let's pull some role reversal shit. Just fuck with him. Put him in a room with out best attempt at a window and have some speaker "Study" him.Maybe have some other speaker start talking about cats and spray him with Cyro spray.
>>36903903Its a different type of AI, but still an AI in the end.
>>36903903Well yes, but you'd think an AI whose one purpose is to research everything might want to talk to an AI made by an extinct species thousands of years ago. I know I would.
>>36903923I was speaking for him, as a suggestion.But, at the top of my head would be getting clearance into places easily.
>>36903831Hes probably going to give us something for this anyway dude, thats how favors work.
>>36903963A dead man. Who is known to have died. In an orbital strike. Yeah his clearance wouldn't be revoked due to the big giant DECEASED on his personnel file or anything.
>>36903963No he wouldn't hes dead. Dead people showing up to places unannounced tends to set off alarm bells.
"Hey, Unity, we got a couple Seiners here, you want one?"
>>36903991>>36904013it wouldn't be dead, it would most likely be MIA, and assumed dead, but if they can somehow find him in the planet hiding and have a bullshit story about making it out and roughing till he could salvage something to emit a distress signal, they could believe him.
>>36903933It now occurs to me that the brain upload thing was probably thanks to the Gardener developing an equivalent to our own neurological interfacing research.
>>36904068So, we take after our aunt a bit then.Nice to know we are keeping up with family traditions 70000 years old.
>>36904068Or maybe its down to them already being 99% machine.
>>36904065It'll take weeks to clone him man. They'll be very suspicious and will put him through a full medical examination.
>>36904152>It'll take weeks to clone him man10 days actually not, weeks ans quest drone confirmed that we can rush it, to be faster, but that increases the chances of something going bad as well.Again this is just me thinking up of why he would want to clone the doctor, i'm indifferent about the idea.
>>36904136Except no. There would be no point in uploading the brain of someone who is already flippin' immortal. http://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answer/121925700645
>>36904152>>36904065I find it likely that if we clone him, it'll be for the sole purpose of fucking with him. We can put him through his own personal god damn hell.
>>36904135Speaking of Aunty Gardener, I forgot what we did with her body.I remember seeing somewhere that we could roll for any technology we might find by analyzing a Queen's DNA, though I'm not sure if 70,000 years being dead might leave anything behind.
>>36904065Dude, the nuked the facility he was in after vicious aliens that he was personally overseeing escaped.I don't think they are going to mark him down MIA.
>>36904197If, and ONLY if we can extract the doctor's mind and transfer it into a clone, it would be worth our time and effort. What that guy knows would be worth quite a lot to us.
>>36904246I do not think we ever found Aunty Gardener's body. I fear that the Black Queen might have gotten it.
>>36904274If we can extract it we don't need a clone, man you're just like the other anon.
>>36904306We found it, we didn't find our MOMS body.
>>36904246Her body was mostly rick, if memory is right, but yeah quest drone said it would be random loot roll.>>36904306that's our mother and we can always go searching again, if people want to see.
>>36904217Its not like they suddenly forgot how to work with nanomachines and robo brains.>>36904306We definitely found it. It was described as looking like it was sleeping. It was in the same place as the weird computer and the crystal.
>>36904343>>36904344>>36904358(looking back) Oops, I thought that was another queen. My bad.
>>36904358>>36904344I move that we try to see if she has anything useful left and then ceremoniously bury her body, or whatever our equivalent of a funeral ceremony is.
>>36904358>Its not like they suddenly forgotUh. They literally never even knew. They were still trying to reverse engineer nanomachines, tech handed down from crystals that they never understood.
>>36904411recycled it is than.
>>36904344Definitely should get on to that. It's not like the Black Queen would be settling Reprieve either, what with it being reduced to irradiated slag.
>>36904411Probably turned into N, its not like we know or have any real attachments short of thanks.
>>36904411We violently tear her corpse apart and eat it?
>>36904411It's already a fossil, it's as good a memorial as any right where it is.
>>36904436Well she was much more interested in the planet than the hive ship when she showed up.
>>36903860Cloning to read his memories, I'm not sure we can "read" anything from his deceased head. We may need to temporarily resuscitate/resurrect him and implant a parasite to gain access to his head. Whether or not we want to clone him so he can spy or research for us is another debate entirely
>>36904476I say we turn him into a brain in a jar for the entertainment/spying. We can always a just build him a new one with a kill switch.
Speaking of the rollypolly people, it seems like they made an economy of giving us food, so what should we do to reward them?
>>36904536We bless them.
>>36904554Parasites it is.
>>36904476I remember reading that it is not a oxygen starvation that kills nerve cells - they actually live for several hours after death.What actually kill them is a misfire of anti-cancer mechanism caused by reactivation of oxygen flow. I am pretty sure that Hive can compensate for that.
>>36904536Continue ro grace them with our presence.
>>36904536Oh yeah, we should start communicating with them one way or another now, they've already built a city just to praise our name.
>>36903534In a burst of radiation your pod vanishes as it reaches orbit, and you become blind of the Gliese system.Some short time later your pod falls from the sky over Leeland and flies into your hangar. A team of workers rush in to grab the sample and take it to a medical pod. As it throws the quickly spoiling head into the medical juices of a waiting tank the arms within grasp at it, poking at its tissue and taking samples and tests."Seiner has been killed." You say as you send the memory of his death to Theseus.There is a long pause. Longer than normal. Zero One is entirely silent as every instance reviews the data countless times. Several other recordings are sent back and forth along the surface, and you see Seiner in the laboratory of the Chandra research facility. He is arguing with Elizabeth."Don't be ridiculous. After a leak this big I'm surprised it's lasted this long."Elizabeth is in a panic, her hair undone and her eyes baggy from a lack of sleep. "He is alive, you need to tell them that! They could amend just a few lines of law and the first contact clause will cover him.""What, are you insane? It's a magnificent work of artistic coding the likes of which has never been seen by man, yes, but it's just a machine. We need to be more worried about our own carriers at this point. Now I managed to-""No, you hold on!" Elizabeth snaps, her accent slipping. "Just how do you go about claiming he's not alive?" She points in a fury to the camera where Theseus sits in silence. "He meets every quantifiable criteria we can think of for sapience, so give me one good reason to just unplug him like less then an animal?"Seiner thinks for a moment, ignoring the console in which Theseus sits trapped. "Because the people with grant money told you to. This was a job, and now it's over. You need to deal with that and move on."Elizabeth slaps him across the face, a red handprint spreads across his cheek as she storms off. "mach es dir selber!" She shouts.
>>36904564And thus making them our 'Chosen' and reinforcing their devotion to us.
>>36904536Improved agriculture tequichnes, security from predators, unifying political leadership to reduce infighting, advanced medical treatment. Really the list could go on and on
>>36904616What a dick. Good riddance.
>>36904616>"mach es dir selber!"Anybody recognize that language, by any chance?
>>36904704German, its basically says go fuck yourself.
>>36904616 Elizabeth sounds so tempting when speaking German
>>36904616Ah, She's german! Didn't realize that.Elizibeth is fucking great. I hope we kerrigan her or something. She's already the only pyshic human in the universe. She just needs training and some scaly skin.
>>36904616Also when are we going to tell Elizabeth about Theseus, or vice-versa?
>>36904712>>36904704or do it your self, it can be either or.
>>36904704Looks pretty obviously German.>>36904714Shit the fuck up fluff.
>>36904714And you sound like a faggot when you type.
>>36904723>>36904714She reminds me of her actually.
>>36904723So...a hive exoskeletal symbiote? That might work.
>>36904742>>36904750You two need to chill. She cussed him out and left her hand print in the ass hole's face. That is a big in my book.>>36904767That is kinda close....
>>36904616"Thank you. You have been of great and frequent assistance." Theseus says simply. "Please alert me of any way in which it can be repaid."Elsewhere, your stealth corvette sits in orbit of Earth on the verge of the debris field. It is much larger then the Angel, and somewhat less maneuverable. It will take quite a degree of luck and skill to reach the surface unharmed, and even more to leave again.Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
>>36904805You still sound like a faggot.
Rolled 3 (1d100)>>36904821
Rolled 60 (1d100)>>36904821
Rolled 66 (1d100)>>36904821
Rolled 42 (1d100)>>36904821
Rolled 13 (1d100)>>36904821
>>36904825And I love you to bro. Keep it classy.
>>36904843It's at times like these I hope the GM uses a pass/fail metric for rolls like these.
>>36905065our ships can heal themselves, so as long as it isn't too severe, and we don't have to leave right away, it will be all good.
>>36904821time to trade tech, and also give him those passwords, and ask him if he wants to learn anything from the good doctor, also see if we can release some dirty little secrets as well.
So, I was thinking we could reveal ourselves to a really nice news crew instead of the military coming in and morphing it all to make them look like the good guy. Not now, necessarily, but it's something to think about.
>>36905207After we cripple the asshole dictator wanna be.
>>36905140This is an idea, we could ask for fusion tech in return. Fusion power is commonly used throughout human space, but would take us a long time to research. We could get it out of the way now.
>>36905207Or, we remove all human Canderon-equipped ships from the picture with our overwhelming mass produced numbers. Humans are clearly not ready for the stars.
>>36905245Isnt our own power sources better?
>>36905240Who we talking bout, Kilgore or DuPont? It would be interesting to know how both responded to the news of our stunt.
>>36905275We could actually send in suicide ships to bomb all their shipyards. We have the stealth technology to pull it off.After that, it's just a matter of suiciding explosive pods into their other ships.Then we can demand their surrender; and claim the expansion zone as our own. Then populate it with our dynasty.
>>36905286We have our own power sources; not sure if they're better or worse than what we have though.We should definitely ask for shield technology.Also, I think we should seriously consider dropping off new queens at places.I'm sure we can find a nice water world or somewhere equally inhospitable to humans, yet enjoyable to our progeny.
>>36905286Not when it comes to sheer electrical power they aren't. Cheap to run but not as powerful.Besides, fusion tech can help boost the payload of nuclear bombs.
>>36905435Pretty sure I remember him saying something about shields lately.>>36905463Ah I was thinking about their shitty ship drives.
>>36905435We already have shield techAlso, Having daughters while we\re playing hide and seek is a bad idea. It might be okay having one after we reveal ourselves to the humans, but having more than one is an invitation for trouble given how they're apparently very trigger-happy against their own siblings.
>>36905377>>36905275We should wait until we have the tech to deal with Them.>>36905435>We should definitely ask for shield technology.You are an unbearable faggot. Why would we ask for we already have?
If we get a bunch of children and have them take over various worlds in the expansion zone, do you think we should discourage the casual war that our ancestors seemed to do?Constantly fighting with eachother for land might damage planets or generally make the humans think we're barbaric. That could be a good or bad thing, depending if we aim to ally or war with the humans.
>>36904821Your frigate moves into what looks like a relatively clear section of the debris field, free of the larger chunks of derelict starships and lunar fragments. A smattering of metal hail indicates your official arrival into Earth orbit, and your ship's cloak flickers in and out against the barrage of scrap. It is nearly halfway through when a piece of lunar stone punctures the hull and lodges itself in the organ of a thruster. It bursts from the pressure and rips a fissure open along the hull, sending chitting into the debris field and adding to the spinning maelstrom of shrapnel."We are wounded, mother!" The many component drones of your ship cry out in pain as subsystems report to quasi-thinkers and thrusters madly adjust themselves to compensate for the loss. Your ship bleeds a silvery green ooze as the organic paste of your damage control systems fill the hull breaches, but the lost thrusters remain non-functional, and the ship slowly enters a spin as its hull begins to glow from the heat of reentry.Lyle has assembled a hammock between two trees, and is halfway through a flask of whisky when a thunder clap sends him spinning face first into the mud for cover."Who's shooting?" He says as he reaches for his gun, but as he looks above he sees your corvette falling as a thunderous ball of fire, slowly curving to avoid slamming into the ground."What in the fuck?" He says simply.Your corvette slopes downward at the massive forest filled crater below. Emergency flaps and air brakes open along the hull and are quickly torn away. Retro thrusters fire to slow down the ship and it lowers into the forest below, tearing into the trees and sending foliage and swamp water cascading into the air as it grinds to a halt against the ground.The many component drones of your ship think in concert, and the subsystem commanding the damage control reports. "Wounded. Can heal in time, but cannot fly."The others speak in sadness. "No good, no do thing for mother!"
>>36905497They'd need to get control of their planet first.
>>36905521Well our dudes are totally expendable. Bugs gonna act like bugs.
>>36905527What about the drones inside the ship?
Why not use human DNA to create intellegent false queens?
>>36905527I hope Lyle didn't spill his drink.
>>36905527Give them a psionic pat on the back and tell them they haven't completely botched the op, so long as they keep up the stealth field.
>>36905527>Can heal in time, but cannot flyCan't fly now or won't be able to fly again?
>>36905572At that point why not just make a real queen?
>>36905527You check through the cargo of the ship and find all of the sent aquatic drones shaken but uninjured. Your corvette is reassured to some degree as they pour from the gashes in the hull and head to regroup with Lyle.Added hive forces40 gilled workers20 gilled warriors>Have your sent warriors stay to guard the ship as it repairs>Send all drones to regroup with Lyle
>>36905614>Have your sent warriors stay to guard the ship as it repairs
>>36905614>>Have your sent warriors stay to guard the ship as it repairs
>>36905604>At that point why not just make a real queen?Because we can't control real queens.
>>36905527To Lyle: "the debris field makes it difficult to land reinforcements.">>36905604Agreed with this.>>36905614Leave the warriors with the ship, but send the drones.
>>36905614Have the non gilled warriors stay to protect the ship. the gillied ones go to Lyle.
>>36905614>>Have your sent warriors stay to guard the ship as it repairsI don't want no damn hillbillies touching the car
>>36905614>>Have your sent warriors stay to guard the ship as it repairsWait, so we've established that its a ship we're digging up? What design is it, Skyl, Ceph, Hive, or something else?
>>36905646Then why bother making them intelligent in the first place?>>36905649I am not for making new queens I think its stupid right now. I just think human hybrid false queens is even more stupid, not to mention pointless.
>>36905614Why not send like 5 warriors to Lyle and keep the rest on the ship? We can guard the ship in sets of three
>>36905655I actually agree with fluff for once.
>>36905604>>36905646If we're worried on our daughters turning on us or doing something stupid, than perhaps this isn't the time to be laying daughters.If we want a daughter anyway, well we already have someone who we know and trust that could possibly control drones. We just need to run some experiments to find the extent of her psyconic powers, and possibly a bit of training...
>>36905746Daughter won't betray their mother, they might bitch, but unless they get turned into the black queen they should be pretty loyal.
>>36905686>Then why bother making them intelligent in the first place?So they can think creatively and work independently without getting to fights.
>>36905764Why wouldn't they? They're meant to control, subverting control from their mother should be like instinct.
>>36905764>Daughter won't betray their motherThey can, it's just unlikely.
>>36905766If we're worried about them getting into fights, just keep in contact with them and tell them to stay in their own space. We can raise our children, damn it.
>>36905746Im with >>36905764How the fuck do you plan to get her capable of managing an entire hive anyway? Why wast time and resources on that when we have bigger things to worry about.>>36905784Because quest drone said they wouldn't he would probably know..
>>36905655Yeah, this is actually not dumb.
>>36905784>When we eventually make a daughter or two how are you gonna handle them? >They would do their own thing, with their own motivations and personalities. They would respect your position as their mother, but if you ever lay more then one they would very likely break out into occasional war with each other over even the slightest things, and would regularly engage in espionage, political bickering, and cold war Mexican stand-offs when they aren't fighting openly.Picture an average pair of bickering siblings, only they both posses an interstellar military with neigh inexhaustible manpower. The "ya-huh nu-uh" arguments that crop up in the back of the car are now interplanetary border disputes and the "mom, she's touching me" fiascoes become orbital artillery barrages. For the most part they would keep it out of your antennae and avoid dragging you into their competition for fear of appearing weak by asking for aid.Or because they don't want to be a taddler, either works.It sounds like they wouldn't encroach on our territories f we call dib first, they might fight against themselves if we don't pay attention to them though.
i've thought about laying other queen eggs and what i think we should to is lay maybe 5-10 queen eggs and send them out in to unknown space and have them hatch after 100 years apart, this way if we were to fail and die qd could start up hive queen quest 2.0 where we get to play as one of our daughters and obviously we send our memories and tech with them
>>36905791I'm not worried about them fighting. let them fight its their right.
I think we got a ways to go before we need to start delegating to more Queens. We are only at our second planet after all.
>>36905788True, they could but the way the anon says it sounds like it would be competing minor queens.we have a head start already with them, so that gives us a position of power above being their mother.This is of course once we are settled in and make sure the xenophobic part of humans lose political power of course.
So when do we come clean to Theseus about the incoming war with the Crystals (Ceph, Black Queen, and God Crystal itself)
>>36905791>If we're worried about them getting into fights, just keep in contact with them and tell them to stay in their own space. We can raise our children, damn it.That how it works. QD himself said that they would get into fights whether we like it or not.>>36905862It's a waste of resources and attracts attention. Why would you want that?
For some reason this photo made me think about us back in our first thread.
>>36905845I find that oddly hilarious to imagine, as they talk to each other arguing.
>>36905886When we need things or if he really needs to know in case of an emergency.
>>36905889He said it was like children bickering.If we yell at them enough, and maybe hit them a bit, Surely they'll stop fighting!
>>36905886Didn't we already? I think that was part of the package about the Skyl, and the reason why he sent us to investigate what destroyed the moon.
>>36905886We already told him about that, its why we are on earth in the first place.>>36905852I'm for laying queens, but thats just too many especially with the black queen roaming around, i just want to have 1 or 2 daughters and tell them to stay low.
>>36905852a good back up if we ever happen to die +1
>>36905889If you don't want them to fight then just don't make them its simple. people fight, its just most people aren't the center of a hivemind. We don't even need them for anything.
>>36905837Weren't there zero non gilled warriors mentioned by QD. If there are any, surely it makes more sense for the gilled ones to stay with the underwater excavation instead of the other way around?
>>36905897"Get out of my space!""No! I'm collecting samples!""I already gave you samples go away!""No!""GET OUT!""NO!""MOOOOOOOOM""Tattletale!"WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE."Mom, She's invading me!""No I'm not!"GET OUT OF YOUR SISTERS SPACE."But mooooo-"NO BUTS. MOVE IT."BUT MOOOOOOOOM"DO I NEED TO SEND COUSIN LYLE TO SORT THIS OUT?"Fiiiine"
>>36905952The ones sent with lyle don't have gills.
>>36905921they wouldn't be in any danger since they would be inactive drifting in space for a couple of hundred years before waking up. if we were do die we could then start playing as one of the daughters
>>36905926>If you don't want them to fight then just don't make them its simple. I'm not the one suggesting to create queens, I'm trying to suggest an alternative to that.
>>36905984We don't need an alternative we can just look after things ourselves.
>>36905984which is stupid, and might as well be queens in the first place.
>>36905974>COUSIN LYLEOh I cannot wait to troll Lyle endlessly about being 'adopted' into the hive.
Is there any point in having more Queens other than lulz and heir in case we fail?Because former is just stupid, and while latter is reasonable it doesn't rate more than few cloaking pods.
>>36905978>inactive drifting in space for a couple of hundred yearsThat's not really an option.
>>36905614Lyle pours the swampy mix of sludge from his whisky flask as he stands covered in mud next to his tangled hammock, grumbling under his breath. A gilled worker erupts from the water nearby and he sends the flask into the air as he reaches for his weapon. "Goddammit, stop fucking doing that!" He yells."Ride was bumpy! We dig now?" It thinks. The thought skims over Lyle's mind and he shoos it away with his hands."Go... go play in the mud over there." He says, and adds under breath, "Damn things, tryin' give me a heart attack, little shits." He returns to his hammock and begins to straighten it out.Elsewhere your thinkers bring your attention to the construction on Raligha. The thinkers report a deficit of metals, and while the hive is extracting local metals to supplement it, it is at a rate of hardly a single metal per worker per day. The thinker requests an import of 46500M to complete its anti-orbital battery network.>Send requested metals>Refuse>Send (write in) instead>Other
>>36906074>>RefuseYou have nanomachines, son. Use them.
>>36905999>which is stupidExplain anon how having a hybrid with all of the advantages of a queen without none of downsides.
>>36906068Its helps solidify our presence and gives us more fighting power in the long run as well, plus need more psionic allies.
>>36906074>Send requested metals
>>36906074>Send requested metals>>36906093Anon, we have 500k metals. I think we can afford that. Though I will agree that maybe we can make sometihng to improve efficiency since we're getting so big now.
>>36906074>Send requested metalsslowly, to not call attention
>>36906096You basically want an egg layer, which we already have, with a quantum brain.
>>36906096How does that remove any of the downsides at all.Humans tend to fight a lot too.
>>36906096This is going to end up with a weird humanoid hive queens as daughters, i can feel it in my bones.
>>36906096We don't need someone else to manage our shit for us. We are bred to manage millions or billions of fuckers simultaneously. If we want something that can make drones that we control we can just make a fake queen. Thinkers can look after shit just fine.
>>36906096Explain how adding human DNA makes a theoretical hybrid queen MORE loyal? Hybrid drone-clones are less loyal, they're controlled via subconscious manipulation of the hive side of their biology. If you hybrid a queen with a human, they're only going to be further from inclined to sympathy with us.
>>36906096You basically want egg layers, when if we make daughter would be different queens in different systems that can be allies and a continue chance for the quest.There is no need to put our daughters near our space and we can tell them which planets we have dibs on.
>>36906110Are you daft?There is zero synergy between hives, at least young ones such as ours - it takes a lot of time to develop specialization that will make trading worthwhile.Anything else is more efficient by having single Queen control entire polity - did you forgot what happened when mother pulled out of Alliance?
>>36906198Seriously. "Allies" are worthless when they're just using up resources you could have taken and used yourself to produce the same forces.
>>36906131But they can't think creatively.>>36906131>Humans tend to fight a lot too.Hybrids anon. They are beyond loyal.>>36906164>Hybrid drone-clones are less loyal, they're controlled via subconscious manipulation of the hive side of their biology. Hybrid are incapable of betrayal or even arguing so close enough.
>>36906074Hey at the end of last thread we had about six people Voting to create Film Harvesters, did that pass?
>>36906239>>36906198It helps spread our forces faster, and you guys act like there is very little space/resources for us to use.2-4 queens together can take out the entire race and make forces faster than a single queen can.
>>36906280>It helps spread our forces faster,No it fucking doesn't. We can do the exact same things at the exact same speed.
>>36906074Your corvettes quickly load the requested metals, and the Raligha mines are promptly abandoned as useless and inefficient holes in the ground.-46500MThe thinkers immediately lay out plans for the new anti-orbital batteries>>36906251Kinda. There was enough support to make them, but the support was split on what kind and how many.>Lay 50 medium Film Harvesters>Lay 50 Large Harvesters>Lay 25 Large Harvesters>Other
>>36906280No, we can do it at the same speed by ourselves.And there will be less bickering.
>>36906312>Lay 50 Large HarvestersGo big or go home.
>>36906312>>Lay 50 medium Film Harvesters>>Lay 50 Large Harvesters
>>36906312>>Lay 50 Large Harvesters
>>36906074>>Send (write in) insteadMining Corvettes>OtherBuild 4 more mining CorvettesLay 25 Aquatic Workers, 25 Radiator Workers, 75 workers, and 25 diggers to begin work on 5more anti-orbital batteries on Leeland. Also add 40 fighter and 20 shuttle space at each of the new orbital batteries.
>>36906312>>Lay 50 Large HarvestersSure why the fuck not.
>>36906312can you just tell us what you can about making more queens, we are going in circles arguing about this subject.
>>36906247We can think creatively. Fucking quantum thinkers can think creatively. We don't need extra people taking up space and time and resources we could use ourselves.>>36906280No they fucking cant. We can already match the breeding power of queens with egg layers and we can manage all the egg layers and drones we make simultaneously, How will other queens make us spread faster?
>>36906312>Lay 50 Large HarvestersThat please.They are not that expensive, although in the future we probably will want to integrate film into our creep.
>>36906362He already has you fucker. Several times.
>>36906312>Lay 50 Large HarvestersGo to town on that film.
>>36906363>Fucking quantum thinkers can think creativelyThey can't anon. They are unable to so much as create an optimized drone.
>>36906399Where?He has answered about what the daughter would do, but not of the possible benefits.
>>36906423>but not of the possible benefits.He has several times.
>>36906418QUANTUM THINKERS WERE MADE TO FUCKING THINK CREATIVELY!!!
>>36906418They have come up with their own ideas at least once.>>36906423Go read back through the threads and find out.
>>36906445Can you tell me than?
>>36906475We've told you. There are none that quantum thinkers and egg sacs can't provide.
>>36906447They were made to think abstractly.
>>36906504So can you tell me than?
>>36906312>Lay 50 Large HarvestersWe are falling behind our thinker on building an orbital defense grid for leeland. Lets give a thinker a bunch of workers and have it finish our leeland defense grid.
>>36906247You're being dumb. The hybrids are loyal because they're a mix of human and hive drone DNA. A hybrid queen would be a mix of human and hive queen DNA. Queens are not unquestionably loyal! The mechanisms that make hybrid clones loyal DO NOT EXIST IN A THEORETICAL HYBRID QUEEN.Now, you could set up a hybrid clone to act as thinker that directs the growth of a hive, but that's not going to be any more effective than quantum thinkers.
>>36906509They have come up with their own ideas.
>>36906539Presumably the reason we haven't sent our drones to do it yet is because anon neglected to vote to do so at every opportunity. We need to build that orbital defense grid people.
>>36906539Actually, I propose we offload civic development to our thinkers, leaving us control of military and space infrastructure.We are kind of acting in spurts then forgetting it until we run low on resources.
>>36906423It's not his job to interpret what's a benefit and what's a downside, his job is to provide facts. Determining what's favorable or not, that's our job.
>>36906545Which are highly unoriginal, they are capable of of using one idea as a springboard for another but are extreme limited in that respect and are incapable of anything more that.
>>36906601I can go for this. Sounds like a great way to offload resource production to drones that can do it better than we can so that we can focus more on politicking and fleet stuff
>>36906531Read the fucking thread. Independent thought is a downside, not a benefit, when we have a more controllable alternative for creativity. Egglaying is redundant with devoted egg sacs.
>>36906539What scale of vessel is that orbital defense grid good for?
>>36906652Please stop sperging out.Sincerely, anon who is tired of your shit.
>>36906652Stop being an idiot.You want creative thinking? Provide it yourself rather than asking GM to think for you by running even more NPC nations than he alrady does.
>>36906601We still need to build like 100 orbital docking pylons at the Waystation planet in the nebula. There's basically no downside to removing that bottleneck now, pylons be cheap.
>>36906688I'm fairly certain our children are automatically modifying the hive structure as the need and demand for it arises, we just dictate the bigger pieces of infrastructure, like docking pylons and reservoirs.
>>36906652What do we need creativity for anyway? Have we ever had a deficit of creativity? Have we ever been in a situation where we could go " gee whiz I wish we had some unnecessary underling pointlessly managing drones, for the creature who was made to manage several planets worth of drones easily, present to present us some creativity".
>>36906706I'd imagine sub-capital, since they're most effective against low-orbit vessels and capital ships don't do that so much. Orbital missile launcher should be able to effectively damage any size vessel.
>>36906723You seem to be the one sperging here anon.>>36906728>>36906787The more work that get placed on the players the slower the quest will become.
>>36906841Fuck off you spastic. If its not fast enough for you go somewhere else.
>>36906312>50 Large HarvestersYour workers sort the eggs throughout your throne room.In Tau Ceti your pod interrupts your thoughts with a new report. A news broadcast propagating along multiple news outlets is quickly filling local space. They all show the same massive expanding cloud of plasma gradually dissipating over the desert of Tadega."We are getting mixed reports of possible anti-government forces at work." Says one broadcaster."Our program can confirm that it was the Sulaco that launched the salvo, but we have yet to receive any statement on the matter." Says another.Mixed reports come and go like fads, spreading across the various news stations before being disproven and retracted."We have unconfirmed reports and images of what appears to be a facility at the location, and records indicate a possible military presence, however there is no official record of a base here, and the military is keeping quiet on the matter so far. We will keep you up to date on this developing story as it unfolds."Eventually you see a number of channels cut to a large chamber where a press officer stands behind a podium."It has come to our attention that a number of media outlets have shown growing concern over an apparent orbital strike on the surface of Tadega." He begins. "I would like to inform you all now that the event was, in fact, a scheduled military test of a new method of bunker construction with the intention of developing a method of protecting surface infrastructure and population centers from the risk of orbital bombardments from both anti-government threats, and the ever present Commonwealth risk." The sounds of shutters nearly drown out his voice as he continues. "The test is as yet inconclusive, as we have not yet had the time needed to inspect the target facility, but we hope that we will see the inclusion of this new defensive construction technique in bomb shelters across the Union within the decade." He moves to walk off the stage.
>>36906766We should search it for any tech first and We need to lay more pods to search for more Exo-Worlds.
>>36906841My sperging out is calling you a sperg then? Since that was my first post.Sounds a lot like 'no u'And there's very little work placed on players already. Compare it to aspiring emperor quest and you'll realize that a game can still proceed fast while having many things to manage.Besides>>36906875Sums it up well
>>36906841I partially agree with you that anon initiative is slow and unoptimal, but I strongly disagree with your solution. The solution is delegating expansion to the thinkers more, telling, them, do this shit as fast as possible as stealthy as possible. Mama needs a big army.
Leeland defense plan:Lay 25 Aquatic Workers, 25 Radiator Workers, 75 workers, and 25 diggers to begin work on 5more anti-orbital batteries on Leeland. Also add 40 fighter and 20 shuttle space at each of the new orbital batteries. These are the hubs of our defense network. Once the hubs are completed, we send the construction force to build more orbital defense batteries elsewhere, and then add some more workers and a few farms to the hubs, to make them nominally self sufficient. Then each hub receives 20 strafer drones and 15 heavy fighter drones and 5 air defense drones with the standard armaments.
>>36906883You watch as the reporters scream over each other in a mad attempt to have their questions heard, but the press officer simply waves them away as he leaves. "No questions at this time." He says, and then leaves through a small door.You watch the mad display of complete bedlam with amusement and turn back to your own queenly affairs. You have much to do.>Start new construction>Add ships to build que>Lay new drones>Design new ship/drone>Other
>>36906939shouldn't we get some of them bunkers as well?
>>36905377 The very thing I was thinking in November. >>36357497 Doesn't hurt to start amassing a stockpile of a few thousand of the things. Atomic warheads don't even cost upkeep, do they? Because "manufacture cost is paid upon launch."
>>36907039>OtherSpeak to unity, and trade tech.
>>36906935Well the problem is that the direction is dictated by the players and most of the time we're pretty directionless without something happen to help focus us which is what causes the slowdown.
>>36907039>>Design new ship/droneLay 1000 Pods, each containing a Thinker and a Cruise-tier atomic warhead for suicide strikes? Oh, and we can explore deeper into the ocean I guess, we need to find swim bladder and fins adaptations.
>>36907114>players are too slow>take control away from players!Just shut up and be patient.
>>36907140Deep ocean exploration sounds neat. Backing some of that. Is there anyway we can make use of undersea volcanoes?
>>36907039>Start new constructionMore Anti-Orbital cannons and Missile systemsAs well as our own Atomic warheads>OtherTrade for tech with Unity>Lay new dronesWorkers and thinkers for the building project.>OtherHow has progress in the hive growth in the old temple/hive ship. Any new finds of older hive structures?
>>36906706>What scale of vessel is that orbital defense grid good for?Each installation provides several battleship grade Linear Particle Beams. So they are effective against everything. >>36906883Can we give any memories to Theon to leak as video recordings of the base. Say a fly spy watching people escape with audio of the alert.
>>36907039Add 12 more heavy cruisers. We need to fill up empty docks.
>>36907039>Start new constructionOrbital defence network for Leeland.
>>36907039>Lay new dr- queen>destination one of the following:>Koenig (three planets to choose from; two with low population and viable; the third has too many people to make it look like an accident)>FG-883 (the planet the Valen are on; it would be our daughter's job to hide from them, or make it look like natural causes)>M-662 (Raligha; we'd be handing over the planet to a daughter.)That makes up our list of (in my opinion) decent dynasty sites in the expanse.
>>36907286Can we please not lay a queen yet? There's no need, we don't even have our own planet completely locked down. At least wait until we have our own capital completely hive'd and we have a few more planets under our belt before we lay any children.
>>36907286How about we don't do that but say we did.
Why not turn elizabeth into a hybrid queen.Why not try?
>>36907199>Can we give any memories to Theon to leak as video recordings of the base. Say a fly spy watching people escape with audio of the alert.That could plausibly have been recorded and leaked by one of the personnel? I guess it'd be up to him to determine when it'd be plausible to release that onto the heavily censored Internet.
>>36907331i believe thats the anon that wants hybrid queen, instead of a real one.
>>36907039>>Start new construction>>Add ships to build queLeeland defense Grid>>Lay new dronesLay 25 Aquatic Workers, 25 Radiator Workers, 75 workers, and 25 diggers>>OtherStart Research: Ion Weapons, Fusion powerFusion power gives us orbital farming guys
>>36907039>>Add ships to build que:1 Hive ship12 Mining Corvettes92 Space pods>Lay new drones800 Thinkers200 Quantum Thinkers3 fake queens>Start new constructionDocking Pylon and Base on the WaystationDocking Pylon at the Skyl ringFinish orbital Defense grid on LeelandOther:Scout for Exo-worlds with free pods.Send three expeditions overseen by thinkers to:1 to G-426 P1 (Use filtered drones)1 to Arctic of Leeland1 to the way-station to find tech
>>36907140I do like sudden suicide strikes from the shadows. Dunno how many we should lay though.
>>36907350It might be an interesting experiment.We should at least ask her permission first. And you know, start slow. Like see if she can actually control anything.And also ingrain us more as a mother figure.
>>36907354Why don't they just hybridize our guest scientist then?
>>36907039Add that, uh. Psionic Shroud research. Given Mother might have thought knowledge was literally dangerous, it might be worth inventing a way to hide thoughts.
>>36907039>>Design new ship/droneI think this design may have been posted before, but while I have the chance I'd like to suggest:Special Ops WarriorAcoustic: Advanced 2Radio: Moderate 2Mandibles: Combat 1Blade: Combat 1Arms: Strength 1Legs: Sprint 1Wings: Moderate 2Carapace: Combat 3N 10MCarapace: Adaptive camouflage/Mimetic skin 10NUtility: Acid glands 1Total Cost: 24N 10MUpkeep: 12NWarriors with cloaking built in, along with more vanilla warriors. We have only 200 some odd right now and that isn't enough.>Lay 20 Spec Op warriors>Lay 300 warriors
>>36907350>>36907412because there is no point whatsoever. Its a waist of time and its a waist of resources.Her mind wouldn't be able to handle controlling millions of drones or it would require lots of training to do so.If we wanted a queen we could lay one.If we want something under our control we would lay an egg layer.She cant even lay eggs.
>>36907194>>take control away from players!That is not what I said anon. We have a lot trouble with direction when there is no clear problem. Besides already lost some control in regards to Raligha >>36907354That isn't me. I'm not enough of an asshole to vote I know I won't get support for.
>>36907412No clue, i myself don't think the suicide strike will work out for the best, since its gonna force the two human alliances to work together and maybe put them on the side of the black queen.>>36907039Trade tech with unity.
>>36907441i was so buttflustered over stupidity I spelt waste wrong.
>>36907331We have our planet pretty secure. Secure enough that an upstart daughter is no threat.Besides, we just need to grow the creep, and maybe find a higher yield crop for us to farm. The moss is great and all, but I get the feeling it takes a little too much work.I bet QD would let us take 'expand the hive' as a construction option.>>36907405>>36907412She's a human, not a Queen. Come on guys.
>>36907441I've stopped reading when you wrote waist instead of waste.Your opinion is not good enough.No but seriously now:Her mind would be able to control them with practice/modificationsWe don't want regular queen, we want hybrid queen who might or might not be elizabethWe don't want something fully under our controlShe'd be able to lay eggs with modifications
>>36907465The suicide strike is just a defense network right now. It could be used to attack, but right now it can be used to target anyone who gets too close sticking their nose where it don't belong. Though if it were used offensively, the easy answer to stop that alliance in the bud is to have enough to completely cripple everyone simultaneously.
>>36907489So you want to turn the scientist into a queen?thats almost as bad as making a new queen.
>>36907039lets not have a repeat of that screw up trying to land a frigate on earth:>>Design new ship/droneMoth Insertion CraftHull: Shuttle 50N 150MSize: 30 MetersArmor: Standard armorUtility: Cloaking Field 15N 45MCost: 65N 195MUpkeep: 32NPlanetary RaiderHull: Corvette 400N 800MSize: 100MetersModule Limit: 2Spinal Mounts (X1): Railgun 100 MTurret (X2): Cyclotron Particle Beam 50MFixed (X2): Autocannon 40MAuxiliary (X8): Plasma Lance 80MArmor: Reflex/Conductive 650N 500MUtility: Cloaking Field 50N 150MUtility:Rapid Damage Control 15N 20MModule: Drop pod launcher 50N 100MModule: Docking Bay 100N 50MCost: 1265N 1890MUpkeep: 632N>>Add ships to build que1 moth insertion craft, 1 planetary raider
>>36907461There is a clear problem. Big black crystal fuckers are going to kill us. Therefore we need to amass resources and get better tech and more drones and better weapons and get more allies before the get to us. We also have to deal with fucking humans sticking their noses in our business.
>>36907511No? What are talking about?
>>36907039Quick, send pod back to Gliese. It can catch the radio transmissions from hours ago as it gets closer.
>>36907385Adding:Add new research:Psionic ShroudWeather Spireto my post:>>36907385
>>36907140>>36907196Guys, guys, who's up for a scientific mission to Huron? Check out what the pastebin had to say about it.>Huron: deep oceans filled with all manner of strange and terrifying creatures
>>36907461>RalighaWe can take control back, you know. Nothing is stopping you from calling for a vote on that.>>36907495I don't want a hybrid queen.If you want a queen, we should just fucking lay one. No need to butt around with humans.>>36907499Who says we need to announce ourselves? Pod+bomb+shipyard = no more shipyard.We just have to sneak the fucking things in. All the humans need to know is that they no longer have shipyards; not that we did it.
>>36907499From the sounds of some of the anons, it looks like they want to go offensive now, instead of trying to prepare for space Cthulhu, and his little bitch queen.
Guys, We're throwing around a bunch of assumptions about Elizabeth. We don't really know the extent of her psyconic modifications. We should REALLY put some research into it. And I'm sure she'd be all for finding out what exactly the nanomachines inside her head do.
>>36907551You don't want it, yet I want it.We're at an impasse.Fuck you, dickweed.
>>36907560Not 'now'. But preparations have to be done now, instead of last minute.
>>36907546This sounds awesome.Also sounds like a great place to send a daughter of ours.>>36907560It's best not to end up with a Germany situation on our hands. Even if we meet or outclass Cthulhu tech wise, if we lack the numbers it's ogre.
>>36907495We don't want a hybrid, you want a fucking hybrid.If we wanted something that wasn't fully under our control then we would make a queen but we don't. We don't need a queen or a fucking hybrid right now.
>>36907546I think it might be better to make an undersea hive here first then send a colony there that's fully equipped to rock the world of all those sea monsters.
>>36907560No matter what you choose to do, amassing a large nuclear arsenal is a pragmatic decision at any time.
>>36907604>Also sounds like a great place to send a daughter of ours.Shut the fuck up already.
>>36907604We can make the numbers on our own easily.
>>36907546First we need adaptations that will actually let us float and swim efficiently in water. Gotta dive into our local ocean for that first.
>>36907546I would be down for that.
>>36907604That's why we want to increase our numbers by 1000 now, and continue increasing numbers in the future. But 1000 pods because they're so damn cheap.
>>36907626>>36907604>>36907592I'm all for arming our asses up like switzerland(?), but i rather not push the humans to side with Cthulhu, and instead have them join forces with us.
>>36907495We don't want Queens, period. It is pointless.How many time we have to repeat, THERE ARE NO SYNERGY IN HAVING MULTIPLE HIVES.Even if you manage to create subservient Queen, it will be more efficient to colonize these planets ourself.
>>36907699I'm all for making a queen and was one of the ones arguing for it earlier, but you're not making a point on making one and are just pissing anons off/making sure they wont make one.
>>36907546Sound like a good idea. First we should study our own oceans first.
>>36907670Ooh, make a drone with with the magnetic legs, Magnets don't care about water.>>36907699It got her farther then her sisters who banded together didn't it?
>>36907700They won't side with Cthulhu. They don't even know about Them. And there will be no human forces left to side with anyone if we attack with the right amount of firepower, so the worry is unfounded.
>This whole thread
>>36907758Actually, they fought for a long as hell time, their undoing was letting the black queen known everything.
>>36907039So many differing votes, goodness. Let's try to sort through this civilly.>Build surface to orbit missile system>Build complete anti-orbital defense grid>Send Huron expedition (write in what to send)>Other
>>36907758That is as useless as regular legs, they don't go more than a few feet or so above the solid ground.
>>36907697I have reservations about the amount of damage pods with nukes could spit out if we got in a fight with the Black Queen.But it's not a bad idea if we need to alpha strike more conventional foes; like humanity.>>36907700That's why we strike with the cloaks, my friend. So that they don't know who's hit them.
>>36907765If we become the common enemy of the human race, i can guarantee you they are gonna join forces with him, either directly or through proxies.
>>36907727Well there is synergy but you would need much more space then we have right now. The previous queens probably had a several planets apiece.>>36907777They went down way before our mother who didn't get mind fucked.
>>36907699Different anon, but I don't want any daughters at this point for a variety of reasons:We're haven't consolidated our position, we're surrounded by hostile or potentially hostile factions, a daughter represents an asset we cannot control to maintain our interests, there is no practical benefit to having a daughter at this point, we're currently engaged in a shadow war with a faction that engages in genocide against our and other species, I think it's unethical and foolish to introduce a daughter into he political bedlam we're embroiled in at this point.It is something that represents non-trivial risk to our interests for trivial, at best, benefits. And now I'm responding to a deleted post, great.
>>36907765I think it would be better to infiltrate them and take them over internally.
>>36907790>>Build surface to orbit missile system>>Build complete anti-orbital defense grid>>Send Huron expeditionI'm in support of all of these. Not sure what to send, so I'l let someone else choose that.
>>36907790>OtherTrade tech with unity.
>>36907811That's why you destroy everything about them that can pose a threat in space. Duh. That was the whole point.
>>36907790>>Build surface to orbit missile system>>Build complete anti-orbital defense grid>>Send Huron expedition (80 gilled warriors, 100 gilled workers, 2 regeneration tanks, 2 scout corvettes)
>>36907790>Build complete anti-orbital defense gridThen>Build surface to orbit missile system
>>36907792What about a drone that just has a tail and gills then?
>>36907849Oh snap, adding this to my vote here.>>36907858
>>36907869What part of "we have no swim bladder and no fins adaptation" does that solve.
>>36907858Supporting this. Even has my preference to send two corvettes.
>>36907831>hey went down way before our mother who didn't get mind fucked.Nah, remember our mother monologue?She said that she abandoned her sisters/ daughters to a losing fight that lasted a long time, give me a moment i'll search for it.Also our mother lost as well, so that can't be used as point since she went into hiding.
>>36907925>She said that she abandoned her sisters/ daughters to a losing fight that lasted a long time, give me a moment i'll search for it.They literally got backstabbed by the Black Queen before any proper fight began.
>>36907857Thats just one side, you're just leaving tham open for the other human alliance, and crippling colonies on different planets.
>>36907790>Build surface to orbit missile system>Build complete anti-orbital defense grid>Study our own ocean for more adaptions.
>>36907790>Build surface to orbit missile system>Build complete anti-orbital defense grid>Send Huron expedition >Trade Tech with Unity.For Huron expedition gilled Workers, gilled Warriors, gilled Shocktroopers, some quantum thinkers and a gilled false queen. Let's strip mine this shit for food and hidden minerals as well as making a research station for whatever undersea horrors we find.
>>36907908The tail could actually be pretty useful underwater. Probably moreso after some dissections though, it's likely not optimized for it.
>>36907790>>Build surface to orbit missile system>>Build complete anti-orbital defense grid>>Send Huron expedition
>>36907925Wrong. She was obviously more successful than the coop.
>>36907908Crocodiles dont have swim bladders or fins but they can swim fine. tails are good for swimming.
>>36907944They got caught with their pants down, but a fight still happened, especially considering there were minor queens not paying attention.
>>36907790>Send Huron expedition>1 Gilled large drone>40 gilled workers>40 gilled warriors>>36907832Those are good reasons.I think it's a wise decision to have more allies (read; daughters) who can aid us in our fight. But I understand your position.My biggest qualm is thus: When will the time be right? Sure, we're in a shitty position. But when will we not be? The black crystals/queen are are enemies for the foreseeable future. And while it'd be great to deal with them before laying daughters; can we really afford to wait?In the interests of furthered discussion; when would be a good time to lay one?>deleted postI don't know why that happened.I suppose someone doesn't like Reddit.
>>36907790>Build surface to orbit missile system>Build complete anti-orbital defense grid>Send Huron expedition (100 Gilled Workers, 100 Gilled Warriors, 1 gilled fake queen, 10 gilled regeneration tanks )>Send Djin Expedition (100 Gilled Workers, 100 Gilled Warriors, 1 gilled fake queen, 10 gilled regeneration tanks )
>>36907978>tails are good for swimming.Not scorpion tails.
>>36907975How so, if she still got killed in the end and had to lay another queen?
>>36907925>>36908015She lasted longer and finished their unfinished super weapon and actually took out a sizable portion of their fleet.The other queens got paralyzed and killed.
>>36907790>>Build surface to orbit missile system>>Build complete anti-orbital defense grid
>>36907992In the fucking epilogue.
>>36908008It isn't exactly a scorpion tail. We did get it off a crab creature that lived underwater after all.
>>36908015She lasted 70 THOUSAND YEARS longer than them. the Autist Queen objectively did better.
>>36907790>Build missile system, defense grid, send 80 gilled warriors, 100 gilled workers, 2 medical pods, 2 scout corvettes.Has support.>Send gilled fake queen (Y/N)in addition,>Speak with Theseus to trade tech (write in)>Other
>>36908068Y to gilled egglayer, no to theseus. there is nothing so urgent we can't research it ourselves now. Put the Thinkers to work on whatever it is you want to trade for.
>>36908035And manage to damage their main ship.>>36908068Could we give them all acid glands just in case.
>>36908045That's a little too late, don't you think Anon? Besides, this is our mother's epilogue, and putting off babies any longer would be silly.>>3690805870 thousand years doing what? Hiding? Perfecting a weapon she couldn't/wouldn't even pass on to her daughter?An A for effort, but an F for everything else.>>36908068>fake queen: N>Theseus: N
>>36908068NWe can send in the fake queen after we scope it out a bit.>>36908093He does owe us for killing science man.
>>36908068Yes>Speak with Theseus to trade tech (Fusion Power and ask if they need any help studying anything organic)
>>36908068>>Send gilled fake queen (N)A bit too deep in human territory for that just yet. Speaking of which, perhaps we should lay a gilled speaker sometime.>Speak with Theseus to trade tech (fusion power)
>>36908068Wait why is there no pod at FG-883?
>>36908068>Send gilled fake queen: Y>>36908130Sure that sounds good>Speak with Theseus to trade tech (Fusion Power and ask if they need any help studying anything organic)
>>36908068>>Send gilled fake queen (Y/N)y
>>36908119>That's a little too late, don't you thinkI obviously don't, since I'm the one who said it. There are zero reasons to make them. Nada. Zilch.
>>36908007Give all of them acid glands
>>36908119Our mother waited until the very last minute to send us off. She didn't have us moving around getting in her way did she? And it still stands that she was far far more successful then the gardener and her sisters.
>>36908068>Send gilled fake queenNPremature.
>>36908068>>Speak with Theseus to trade tech (write in)see if he has cryostasis techif we get that we could lay a queen, give her all our info and tech then freeze her to awaken in 300 years or so and send her into unknown space as a bback up plan if we fail
>>36907992>I think it's a wise decision to have more allies (read; daughters) who can aid us in our fight.No it is not? There are, explicitly, no benefits in having NPC nations colonizing stuff instead of doing it ourself.Hive doesn't have decision loops - all data is managed by Queenie in real time, no matter if the relevant drone is in our throne room or in next spiral arm. There are no corruption or wastage either.While our daughters will obey us, they will also waste resources in the internal conflicts - QD explicitly stated that.>In the interests of furthered discussion; when would be a good time to lay one?Once immediate threat of extermination is over, i.e. Black Queen is dead.>>36908068Fake Queen: N/YetThessus: Y
>>36908068>Y>Speak with Theseus.What tech can we give him and what would he want?>OtherStart reading what's on Stiener's USB. It's going to be his filthy porn collection isn't it?
>>36908068Y and y
>>36908068>Send gilled fake queen (N)>OtherAsk Theseus for info on human defenses, base locations and that sort
>>36908068See if we can weaken the xenophobic political structure of the humans with thesus.
>>36908068>Dont's send a fake queenYou begin laying the eggs of the expeditionary drones and have them loaded aboard a pair of scout corvettes to hatch in transit.>Ask Theseus to boost Fusion>Ask Theseus for other tech (write in)>Offer tech to trade>Call in your favors for tech>Other
>>36908336>Ask Theseus to boost FusionWait Theseus doesn't have fusion? Also why does FG-883 have no pod?
>>36908336ask if he has cryostasis tech
>>36908336>>Offer Cryo tech for trade.
>>36908336>>Ask Theseus to boost FusionAnd in return offer your aid in studying alien lifeforms.
>>36908175Zero reasons? The White Queen clearly disagrees with you.>>36908192Far more successful by what metric? Bare animal survival? Killing her foes? Reviving her species?True, she didn't have us around earlier. But I don't think she was the friendliest of queens anyway.>>36908285And how do you propose we find and kill the Black Queen?
>>36908336>Laser cooling>Quantum Communications>Fusion powerPolitically helping us to look favorable to the humans.
>>36908336>Ask Theseus to boost Fusion
>>36908419She will find us when the time comes.
>>36908336>Ask Theseus to boost Fusion>>36908418>And in return offer your aid in studying alien lifeforms.Why ask him if he'll allow us to conduct research on the lifeform on Unity planets?
>>36908419>Bare animal survival? Killing her foes? Reviving her species?Yes all of those things. Plus research, plus not getting taken out without even a fight. The other queens didn't manage to send out any other survivors, they just got frozen and died. Our mother did better in literally every metric.
>>36908503>The other queens didn't manage to send out any other survivors, they just got frozen and died.Wait they were all on the same planet?
>>36908419Hey you know about that thing we have that neutralizes psionic attacks? Have you also heard about that giant cannon that was proved to be effective, and that we have the blueprints for?How about that thing that prevents anyone from hearing our thoughts?Gee, how would we stop a psionic creature backed by crystal bullshit?
>>36908478That may work.As a potential thing to also do, what about talking to elizabeth about uograding her? She is already psi-sensitive, and we can boost that so she could potentially order drones around by herself if we let her. Might help with research.
>>36908540We need to find more crystals, all we did was find out that they have a shit ton of forces, and limited ammo.
>>36908539I would have to read again but I definitely remember the builders thingy exploding in acid when it died. Ineffectively. Maybe they weren't all there at once but they sure as hell didn't fare any better then Gardner.
>>36908580>We need to find more crystalsThe best way to do that is to capture Void Cutters.
>>36908580Then we send out search parties. We don't need other queens for that. Actually wasn't the thing coil was using to power the lyles ship a black crystal? Boom we already have one. See they aren't that hard to find.
Did we ever research those arm fuckers?Can we make a drone that's just a ball of arms.
>>36908580We should bug Heretic for more info on them, he's the only living character who has anything like first hand experience with them.
>>36908668the black cystal is part of space Cthulhu, its why we are staying the fuck away from it.
>>36908668We will need more crystals for use as ammunition against the ceph, the black queen, and the crystals themselves.
>>36908336>FusionYou contact Theseus as he orbits in the Clarke. "How is your understanding of fusion reactors?" You ask. "You could pay for the Hive's assistance with such knowledge."He sends a data packet to Zero One and responds as it returns. "That is acceptable.">Research FinishedFusion powerAnother technology that you are aware of, but that you do not have as great a grasp of. While a fusion reactor does not offer the sheer power of a Power Tap, it is far more stable once built, and requires far less valuable materials to make and maintain.>Microfusion powerThis reasonably powerful but incredibly safe power source distributes a number of micro fusion reactors throughout the ship, decreasing the likelihood of a critical hit disabling a ship's power supply. In addition, increased power fed to railguns and accelerators alike increase the damage dealt by all weapons, and increased power to ion thrusters improve maneuvering of all ships. This replaced the default power supply of all ships passively.[New ship adaptation unlocked]>Fusion CoreThis large and powerful reactor core is more volatile and more potent than the standard microfusion power system. It is more concentrated, and thus offers no protection from critical hits, but it offers more power, and thus greater damage and maneuverability bonuses over micro-fusion. When the ship is destroyed, or when triggered with a self-destruct, the ship can detonate in a nuclear explosion to destroy any salvageable components and damage nearby vessels.>Analyze Seiner's data device>Request additional tech (write in)>Speak with (write in)>Other>>36908396The pod that was there was sent somewhere else, I believe, and never got around to sending it back.
>>36908723>>36908721>>36908715We should try to find the white queen's corpse.>>36908743Ceph fighters.
>>36908605That was likely a failsafe. The rest of the queens would have been jammed through their networks and therefore been highly vulnerable.
>>36908743Ceph ships. They are vulnerable to psychic screams, so we could work with theseus to capture some, or do it ourselves with thinkers.Might attract unwanted attention from space cthulhu though.
>>36908721But we need them to shoot space cthulhu in the face.>>36908743Ceph ships.>>36908721Well then we start stealing them from the ceph. Its clear they don't know whats going on, coil thinks we are the shit.
>>36908760>Analyze Seiner's data device
>>36908605>>36908539Advanced psionic jammers, when connected to an advanced relay, will propagate throughout the relay's entire network.
>>36908760inform him of the coming war
>>36908760Ask to establish a research station on their home planet for joint research on life samples.
>>36908783>>36908771>>36908764I thought those ships used black cystals.
>>36908760>The pod that was there was sent somewhere else, I believe, and never got around to sending it back.Can we send one immediately?>>36908784Coil is an idiot.
>>36908723We don't actually need the crystals for anything other than the void gods.The Ceph and Black Queen can be dealt with by psionic blocking, I believe.
>>36908760>>Analyze Seiner's data device>>Request additional tech (write in)Quantum threads, we can use them as a redundant communication method for ships as a way of protecting them from jamming. Offer Seiner's data as an exchange.
>>36908814Maybe most of the ceph are idiots? We dont exactly have much else for reference.>>36908852Evil space crystals.
>>36908814Coil is controlled by Crystal tech that makes him a drone to the crystals. We use the same method for controlling our drones, and Coil sensed that, thinking we are the same entity. He does not know we are bitter foes. However, it should be possible to replace the crystal control chip in his suit with a drone of our creation...
>>36908873>>36908814If you read what the ceph wear, is basically psionic leashes towards cystal gods.
>>36908883We already did that, why do you think we have a parasite inside of him.
>>36908928A parasite in his body and a thing in his suit are not the same thing.
>>36908824from the info we got from our mother, their ships are deadly since they were decimating her forces, and the only reason the tides turned was because of the weapon.Its safe to assume that the black queen will not be that easy, if we save the ammo for the final boss.
>>36908808If we tell him about the war, it should be in a big bulk deal. With how psionics work, Information on the skyl and black and white crystals, even our family's involvement, the whole thing. We'll need to go big or go home with that information, since it all links together pretty importantly.
>>36908985Yes, this is a good point.
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>>36908760>Analyze Seiner's data device>Request additional tech (Quantum Communications) if he refuses offer trade of cyro tech.>Propose a joint research plan with the hive helping them on anything organic if they help us on anything Mechanical.>Ask if they have any world with life on them in their control and if they say use ask about letting us create a research outpost.
>>36908975From my reading, she was beating back Blacky's assault to the point where Voids had to interfere personally lest she counter-attack and wipe her out.>>36908985We already told him about war, anon. He blew couple light bulbs at that revelation.>>36909012Supported.
>>36908985Then in that case we should tell him about the how the Doctor is working with us to help fight them.
>>36908949I remember reading that the parasite could act the same as the ceph body suit, when we finished researching it.
>>36909067He's been pretty open about his history, and we've helped deal with his demons now. I think it's about time we start being open about ours. I trust him.
>>36909101yup he see,s like a pretty good goy
>>36909101Shoukd probably warn him that us giving him this knowledge will imply he will need to pick a side in the coming conflict. No going back after you know.
>>36908760Your thinkers pour over the information within the data stick, opening the first of the research logs. It shows Seiner in his bubble suit within a tent. The sounds of Leeland's spring weather can be heard outside."Log regarding new species. Xeno..." He thinks for a moment. "Xeno Formicidae, that seems good. Insectoid in appearance. Six limbs, two of which are graspers capable of manipulating tools, however I have yet to see them do so." He grabs the camera and pulls it closer, then quietly peeks it out of the tent. Outside you see your speaker some ways away sitting with Lee under a mushroom tree's dull glow. "They seem to show curiosity to humans, and are occasionally social. This one at least has been with us for a while. It appears to be a kind of specially bred social caste capable of verbal speech. I'm still not sure, but I think it was born in response to human interaction."He pulls the camera back into the tent and looks into it, smiling. "No idea how they communicate, possibly radio, but more likely something else. Gray think's they're settlers, possibly from a kind of seed ship be found in the jungle. Honestly I find myself fond of the theory." The video cuts out abruptly as he hits a switch.cont.
>>36909101>He's been pretty open about his historyDid you miss the part where he lied?>>36909152Can we send another ship to FG-883? I don't want to miss the construction of the warp gate.
>>36909152Oh, shit! He was the one who blew up the fusion core! Fucker wanted more research time on us.
Man, if we start up a base on Tadega then the military will be SO fucking terrified of us. They'll think that a base was started from 10 workers who withstoos/escaped a nuclear purge beforehand. Bonus points if we just emphasize getting tons of numbers and a huge base really fast.
>>36909101He got most of the details on his history from sources other than him.
>>36908949>>36909098>>Ceph thought shellThis complex device contains a bundle of nerves running into the higher brain of the host Ceph and into a large central processor. The processor itself is mostly organic, and combines the sensory input of all the small brains within the Ceph body into a single consciousness. There are also several oddities within the shell. Your scans detect a tiny implant of unknown composition within the “brain” of the shell that seems to give off very low tachyon emissions. The shell itself is not all that dissimilar to the design of your own parasite, and you think that you could have a parasite drone fulfill the duties of the central brain of the shell without too much trouble.
>>36909225Wow anon, you've very succinctly outlined why starting up a base on Tadega is a bad idea. I'm impressed, keep up the good work.
>>36908760>Research Finished>Fusion power>Once we get fusion power, could we use the energy to grow Leeland crops in space? Could we have such an "elrctriculture" chamber as a module for our hive ships?>Yes, although that would require hydrogen fuel to support. Gas giants would be an excellent spot for maintaining such space born farmsHow much for electriculture bays? I assume they require a fusion core to run?
>>36909152Seiner cuts into view, his bubble helmet deflated around his head and his head covered in sweat. He is laughing hysterically."I can almost certainly rule out radio, but they are easily capable of using it! Our craft have been picking up a number of signals from the planet, but after running it through some screenings nothing shows any signs of intelligent patterns. It's not enough to actually get funding yet, but hell, at least it's a lead. I'll take that over old journals any day!" He returns to his giggling. "If I can find the right financer, I think I can take this further."You hear a door hiss open. "Sir, we're breaking orbit now, if you want to send any communications you'll need to post them before we hit warp. You said you needed to contact someone?"Seiner drops the camera to a table. "Yes, yes I have a letter that needs to find its way to Gemini immediately!"I may not be able to stay all night, but I could start up a new thread real quick if you all would like.
>>36909329Do it, I can stay for more.
>>36909329Go for it.
>>36909329Yeah, sure.Can we have a look at Space/pol/ real quick?I kind of love future happenings.
>>36909329Don't kill yourself on our account, QD. Your game is awesome, but non-zombie GM is even better. :)
>>36909348>>36909359>>36909386>>36909387>>36909389>>36909395>>36909398>>36909405>>36909406Can we all agree that we need to send a ship to monitor FG-883.
>>36909432I can agree.
>>36909432Which one was that?
>>36909467The one with the Valen. They're going to soon construct a warp gate.
>>36909329Setting up a new thread real quick. Forgive me if I put a pause on the recent drone laying to speed up the math.>>36909387Possible work, actually, but it's not like I sleep much anyways.>>36909432>Lay new pod to send to FG-883>Send currently idle pod to FG-883>Send currently idle pod back to Gleise and lay a new pod to send to FG-883>>36909467The Valen colony and debris of Skyl homeworld.
>>36909493>Send currently idle pod back to Gleise and lay a new pod to send to FG-883Reverse order works too.
>>36909493>Send currently idle pod back to Gleise and lay a new pod to send to FG-883
>>36909493>>Send currently idle pod back to Gleise and lay a new pod to send to FG-883>>How many worlds are we not watching currently? Lets create 20 more then that so we can scout for Exo-worlds and watch all the worlds. Also, do we have the ability to blow them up currently? If not upgrade them to do so.
>>36909493>Send currently idle pod back to Gleise and lay a new pod to send to FG-883Finishing up the new thread now.
>>36909493>>Send currently idle pod back to Gleise and lay a new pod to send to FG-883>>Lay more pods.Honestly, these little beauties are worth their weight in gold.
>>36909686Agreed. Thought they are also dangerous. If another hive blocks them from us they can hook a disruptor up to it and hit the entire Hive. Adding a thinker to them might be a very good idea.
>>36909686New plan, fill Pod with gold, crash it into planet.
>>36909772Profit. It's brilliant.
>>36909771Plus acid glands, yeah.
>>36909771Q-Thinker + Fusion core. Solves both jamming and capture problem.
>>36909786Don't really need it just have the thinker blink the pod into a planet or add a power core and it become a nuclear bomb.
>>36909813I know just bringing it up to say we should do it.
>>36909276Thanks, Anon-cun_t__There are a number of valid reasons we might want to establish a base there, including but not limited to: giving the Union military a taste of our explosive growth potential and combat prowess (while maintaining our primitive disguise) so that when we're revealed as space faring they think twice before initiating hostilities, and/or prompting greater instability in the Union by revealing that they violated Leeland quarantine and bringing the alien rights issues back into the limelight. bBt i'm on my phone and don't have the patience to type the rest out.There are also reasons we don't want a base there but you really don't have to be such a little shit about it.
>>36909896HQQ has been really hostile tonight, yeah.I blame reddit.
>>36909941Frankly, I blame anons with pet projects and no restrain to consider if they are actually necessary.
>>36909994I really wish they took their project over to the 1d4chan page where it is meant to go to.
>>36910030It's going to be even bigger mess than your Hive ship-miner idea, but honestly, having one, even huge one beats having it every two threads.
>>36910030I really wish fuck you
>>36910075>>36910030Man you know shits gone bad when fluff is the sensible one.
>>36910121>wanting hive quest to die,like AI quest did
>>36909941Well I blame the media and their blatantly pro-torie slants and anti-xeno bias.New thread's up. >>36910131
>>36910138AI quest is still alive. in our hearts
>>36910163Rest in RIP, AIQ and the ones that came before.
>>36910241That's not the image i wanted to post.
>>36909838thinker+acid glands for the relays. the pods are essentially irrelevant.