It's the middle of the day, and the forest is as alive as ever. Birds and bugs and animals, every noise imaginable floats on the warm breeze.You aren't even talking about your friends.The sun is high overhead, and while the riverside offers a clear path to walk, it isn't doing much in the way of shade. Which is fine with you, really. But some of your friends aren't as fireproof. Lann is wiping sweat slick strands of her hair from her face, grumbling about the heat. Sara has produced a sun hat from a pouch, though she still seems to be huffing and puffing as she walks. It might be time to call for a meal and a rest soon.The river bends, slows.You've made it past the rapids- The roar of the waterfall is distant now, and the water is clear. The foam and the hiss of rushing water are fading with each step.There is the sound of frogs, though. You sidestep, leaning over the shore to look.Nope, just regular frogs.You are mildly alarmed that animal sounds now provoke you to check for monster people, but that's probably just going to have to be a thing from now on. Just ahead, you spot shallows in the river- The sand sparkling beneath the surface, a slow slope from the forest floor into the water.That should work. >Get that boat into the water. Ship. Whatever. There's progress to be made.>Call a break. Get some food and shade. It's probably going to take some work to get the boat moving upstream.>Have people rest up while you hunt. No need to dip into rations just yet.>Other (?)
>>36781029Announcements: twitter.com/REQMXQ&A: ask.fm/REQMCharacter Sheet and Misc:http://pastebin.com/u/REQMArchive:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Re-Monsterorhttp://archive.moe/tg/search/tripcode/!!7fb3j+Ac+pZ%20/type/op/or https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rD-MZe51wYI63xxl-tG8dsxj-RWVtJu3S6Gzd6OTJSw/edit?usp=sharing
>>36781029>Have people rest up while you hunt. No need to dip into rations just yet.>OtherAsk Sara to weave together a sheet of silk, and Lann to collect some branches. They can put together a sunroof for the boat while we hunt for food. They can attach it to the boat using webbing.
>>36781029>>Have people rest up while you hunt. No need to dip into rations just yet.And >>36781053's idea sounds good as well.
>>36781029>Have people rest up while you hunt. No need to dip into rations just yet.Rations will keep. Also >>36781053
>>36781029>Call a break. Get some food and shade. It's probably going to take some work to get the boat moving upstream.>Have people rest up while you hunt. No need to dip into rations just yet.
>>36781029Damnit. Quest starts now and I just got company. I did calculations on perimeter, buoyancy, body masses, boat composition, counter torques...I'll post when I can. Until then:> Get that boat into the water. Ship. Whatever.> Pull it when we can and the water isn't too deep.> Make earth stilts to walk the deep water if we can
>>36781029>Have people rest up while you hunt. No need to dip into rations just yet.
>>36781029>>36781053 looks like a good idea.And now I shall take a nap, since finals week is wrecking my sleep schedule. Don't do anything I wouldn't do.
>>36781029>>36781091>>36781053>Ask Sara to weave together a sheet of silk, and Lann to collect some branches. They can put together a sunroof for the boat while we hunt for food.>They can attach it to the boat using webbing.Adding
>>36781029>Have people rest up while you hunt. No need to dip into rations just yet.We aren't tried. They are. Also keep >>36781059
>>36781029>>Have people rest up while you hunt. No need to dip into rations just yet.>Other (?)Use earth-sense to find something quickly and hunt down. This isn't the time to dawdle.Supporting the sun shade for the boat idea. Maybe have Sara go up a tree and collect some palm fronds or whatever is around.
>>36781127>Also keep >>36781059 →... What?
Sunroof and hunting?Alright, can I get 2d100, and 1d10 Please!
Rolled 64, 10 = 74 (2d100)>>367811752d100's.
Rolled 65, 23 = 88 (2d100)>>36781175
Rolled 3 (1d10)>>36781175d10
Rolled 6 (1d10)>>36781175
Rolled 8 (1d10)>>36781175
Rolled 55, 67 = 122 (2d100)>>36781175
65, 67 and 3!Writing!
>>36781251that's kind of good.I'd rather avoid giant monsters on this ttrip.
>>36781402The 1d10 was for what we hunt I think, and we got a 10...
A look at your sister's flagging face is all you need to make a decision."We will stop here, yes? I will find us something to eat."Sara nods graciously, skittering into the shade with Lann close behind, and you set the boat down a few steps from the river.You haven't come all this way to lose it.You head past them, for the forest- But you pull up short, turning as the trees grow thicker."Nin, Jin, please keep an eye out, yes? Guard everyone while I am gone."Jin nods from her roost overhead, and Nin snaps into a picture perfect salute, which just leaves you wondering where the hell she learned that."Sara-""Yes?""If you can, try and weave a thick square of silk, yes. We'll use it for shade on the river."Her eyes light, and she nods eagerly, reaching behind herself to start. Lann nods her thanks, a waterskin to her lips already, and a few arrows plunged into the ground to be drawn swiftly if needed.Satisfied with the preparations so far, you vanish into the woods.In a fairly literal sense, too. You're not one to brag(often), but you've gotten much better at sneaking.You breeze through the woods, honing all your senses to the vibrations of the earth as you move.It feels odd now, to be hunting alone. Not nearly as comfortable.You shake it off as you pick up a few traces of movement. Ahead, right. Closer, closer-You shuffle silently into cover, your body neatly concealed by the brush. The space between trees is wider ahead, and a small herd of the multi-eyed deer are moving through, hooves snapping branches and dry leaves beneath them.Three... Maybe four would be best? Even if it's just a snack, you could probably take the leftovers with you.A little voice giggles in the back of your head. 'Leftovers'.Shut up. You're a growing spider.>Swoop ahead of them. Get a web in place.>Maybe a net would do it?>There's enough space to run- Just rush them down.>Other (?)
>>36781569>Maybe a net would do it?
>>36781569>Swoop ahead of them. Get a web in place.
>>36781569>>Other (?)Use our earth manipulation to rise a barrier around them and then just drop down into it.
>>36781569>Swoop ahead of them. Get a web in place.Trap them.
>>36781569>>Other (?)Mini earthquake / mud slick to stop them running.>Rush them down.Make this quick.
>>36781647>>36781633Support using earthbending to supper them. No preference for the exact method.
>>36781569>>Swoop ahead of them. Get a web in place.weeeeebs.
>>36781569>OtherEarth Wall around them and/or a pit
>>36781569>Earthbend to deny escape and then rush them down.
>>36781569>Swoop ahead of them. Get a web in place.>>36781633>>36781669We got a long day of rowing ahead of us, so spending stamina on earth shaping might not be the beast investment.
Looks like webs win this one, maybe with some earth magic!Gimme 2d100!
Rolled 48, 5 = 53 (2d100)>>36781777
Rolled 34, 71 = 105 (2d100)>>36781777Everyone loves webs. They are factually the best.
Rolled 37, 57 = 94 (2d100)>>36781777Rolling
>>36781800Speaking of, we still need to cover everything in webs.
48 and 71!Writing!
Oh, Yay, I made it for the thread!
pastebins still aren't updated.*sigh*But I can wait. great quest comes first.
The deer are alert- maybe they've smelled you, or maybe it's just their nature. If you only needed one or two you'd just burst through the trees like some sort of horror movie monster, but you have more mouths to feed than just your own. All this means that you're crawling along at clip that frankly disappoints you, stopping and barely breathing as the godsdamn deer twist and freeze, ears pointing in every direction.And then they start moving again, and you start moving again, and the cycle continues. It takes you a solid half hour to creep past them, setting yourself- and a giant web- in their path. After that, of course, nature took over.And by nature, you mean you dropped out of a tree behind them, roaring and screaming, sending the herd scattering, and more than a few straight into your web. One poor deer bolted the second you landed, planting both its feet firmly into a thick set of roots- where its momentum carried it straight into the dirt, and it snapped its own neck. You'd feel bad, but you're pretty hungry, and that is awfully convenient.You dispatch the trapped deer, hurl them over your shoulder and head straight back to the river. In that respect, you can't really get lost, even in the unexplored pieces of forest- You can smell the river, feel it in the earth, hear the whispered tones of water shifting over stone. You're back quickly enough, and everyone sets themselves to the task of eating. Sheszka sleeps through it all- you wrap a few select pieces so she can eat when she wakes. The wolf girl has a folded piece of silk lying across her forehead- cool, damp, and you can smell the distinct scent of healing powder. Your hand across her hair sets the little moth flinching, though she melts into your hand in seconds.You lean down and pull her into a hug as she turns to face you, whispering."Thank you, yes?""Ah- I- ah-"
>>36782384The pale moth is blushing, stuttering, not even looking you in the eyes. You pat her head again as you pull yourself up."Did you think I wouldn't notice? I know what you have done for her, yes."She follows you as you clean up after your companions, helping quietly.Weak to surprise praise.You make note of it. You'll probably need it sooner or later. A few packed bodies later, your new boat is sitting on the shoals as your friends load themselves in, pending your efforts to shove it into the river proper. Which, really, begs the question: How are you planning to head upstream?>You've got paddles. Hard work or not, You're getting to the lakes.>Maybe you could magic something up? A piece of earth, pushing the boat forward?>A bit of magic, and you could stand in the river, couldn't you? You could tow the boat yourself.>Other (?)
>>36782405>You've got paddles. Hard work or not, You're getting to the lakes.No sense disturbing the river too much.
>>36782405>A bit of magic, and you could stand in the river, couldn't you? You could tow the boat yourself.
>>36782405>You've got paddles. Hard work or not, You're getting to the lakes.I don't think the others would be really less hard work, moving a piece of earth for hours would exhaust us too.
>>36782405>You've got paddles. Hard work or not, You're getting to the lakes.
>>36782405>>You've got paddles. Hard work or not, You're getting to the lakes.Earthbending would exhaust us quickly then we'd be back to paddling anyway. Spider-strength will last much longer. Mom made sure of that.
>>36782405>You've got paddles. Hard work or not, You're getting to the lakes.>Other (?)I think we could go faster than paddles if we get a long, long stick and push along the bottom of the lake.Just an idea.
>>36782405>>A bit of magic, and you could stand in the river, couldn't you? You could tow the boat yourself.
>>36782405>>You've got paddles. Hard work or not, You're getting to the lakes.This just seems like the more reasonable choice.
>>36782478Way I see it Straight magic will tire us out and so will paddling.>A bit of magic, and you could stand in the river, couldn't you? You could tow the boat yourself.is the middle ground. A bit of magic so that we can tow the boat in the water.
>>36782482>>36782431>>36782428Based on the size of the Forest, we'll probably have a few days of travel. Constant earthbending like that would wipe us out in a few hours at most.This would also leave us vulnerable during our next random encounter.
>>36782505I am unsure what that entails.I don't mind a bit of earthing ourselves up like, platform shoes I guess.
>>36782405>otherMagic crafted stone propeller. Metal if we can get it without wandering two far. Turn it with our magic
>>36781029>It might be time to call for a meal and a rest soon.you could make better time if you didn't stop to hunt.To get the food without such breaks, weave a silk net to catch fish as you go
>>36782528That's even more magic and will tire us out even quicker.
>>36782520Constant paddling wont? Paddling is also the slowest most likely.
Paddles and poles, then?Gimme 3d100!
Rolled 38, 6, 29 = 73 (3d100)>>36782566
Rolled 95, 59, 3 = 157 (3d100)>>36782566
Rolled 80, 29, 48 = 157 (3d100)>>36782566
Rolled 69, 13, 93 = 175 (3d100)>>36782566>Gimme 3d100!
Rolled 92, 62, 12 = 166 (3d100)>>36782566
95 59 48Actually completely appropriate!Writing!
>>36782623So we push ourselves crazy hard, then get tired?I feel like that would happen without rolls, anyway.Anyone wanna start guessing at Nin's tier 2?Swashbuckler moth? or something loud and colourful?
>>36782554>Constant paddling wont?Much less so than constant use of earth magic. We are fucking STRONK.>Paddling is also the slowest most likely.The speed of each method is beside the point. Would you choose a speed-boat engine with just enough fuel to last an hour, or an old motor that could last as long as you need?
>>36782681>Anyone wanna start guessing at Nin's tier 2?It's in the pastebin.
>>36782734I meant the next one.Would that be tier 3 then?So evo 2 is tier 3 and so on?
>>36782707When did we test our magical endurance? We could try magic method X and then when that runs out switch to paddles. It's not like we're throwing them overboard entirely
>>36782752Well, this is her second form, so I thought of it a tier 2.Others might label it differently.As for her next form, to soon to tell. The next evo will be determined by achievements and choices made in this form. She hasn't done much yet.
>>36782799We haven't really tested it, but we've exhausted ourself to varying degrees with overuse before.It seems to result in some level of physical exhaustion also. And we'd be without our powers if we have a hard encounter.
>>36782801She seems to be going healer support. We don't really need any more fire power in my opinion, so it seems to be the most sensible option (meta-wise)
You shoo your friends to the front of the boat- it's more of a barge, really.Which is pretty much ideal for a river, you suppose. A push sees your skiff set out on it's maiden voyage- is skiff the right word? Or does that refer to a specific sort of-Okay, that's enough.You climb up into the back of the boat, rocking the whole thing gently between you and your front seated passengers. It stays afloat though. Waterproof, even. A critical boat element. You take a paddle, and Sara, of all people, takes another. Between the two of you, the current doesn't stand a chance. You sail down the slowly curving river, pitting your muscles against the flow of water.You are a giant spider. Your sister, however, is less of a giant spider, by a rather significant margin. Comparing her to you might be a bit unfair.Lann takes up the paddle- she's a bit limited compared to an arachne, but every bit helps.You burn her out in an hour and a half.The sun is starting to dip, and you've stowed the oars- It's easier to work with a pole, standing tall at the back of the boat by yourself. Your arms are burning, but your breath is even. It's...Well, you don't know the area. You don't know how far you've come, though your instincts seem to be telling you you're far from home.Which is now something of a problem.You're far from home, and night is falling- and you aren't in the arachne's part of the forest any more. You have a sick wolf- though she did wake and eat, thank gods- an exhausted half elf and a tired arachne.Which leaves you with yourself, a moth and a harpy. You need a plan.>Take your boat and head up a tree. It could be a temporary nest, if not comfortable.>Set up camp on the shore. You'll probably need to take watches.>A bit of stone, and you could easily anchor yourself in the river. Would that be safe?>Other (?)
>>36783079>Take your boat and head up a tree. It could be a temporary nest, if not comfortable.Impromptu nest. We can tie te boat into the branches and use it to sleep in.
>>36783079>>Take your boat and head up a tree. It could be a temporary nest, if not comfortable.
>>36783079>>Take your boat and head up a tree. It could be a temporary nest, if not comfortable.Living in trees is how we do. Wrap the boat directly to the tree.
>>36783079>Take your boat and head up a tree. It could be a temporary nest, if not comfortable.
>>36783079>OtherUse a bit of earthbending to surround and protect the boat at the shore, and head up a tree for a temporary nest.We don't want to do anything that could endanger the boat if it comes to a fight.
>>36783079>head up a tree. Make a temporary nest.>Earthbend a shallow hole and bury the boat for the night.I don't want to drag the boat up a tree. I'm imagining a monster fight during the night and the boat falling or being damaged.
>>36783149Leaving our boat on the shore is asking it to get swept away by a sudden surge of water or get it jacked by a curious animal or fellow monsterbutts.
>>36783079>Take your boat and head up a tree. It could be a temporary nest, if not comfortable.Saves us some web making if the arachnid challenged of the group can sleep in it instead of in a web.
>>36783195We can avoid that problem by burying it. We can command the earth to flow like liquid, getting it back out in the morning won't be a problem.
>>36783079Pull the boat into shore, make a Done over the everyone and the boat, don't forget air holes.
>>36783242>Pull the boat into shore, make a dome over the everyone and the boat, don't forget air holes.Hate phone posting...
>>36783223Assuming nothing in this forest burrows.Which is a bit of a stretch.And even more importantly, earth movement aren't exactly unusual close to a river.
A spider belongs in a tree, apparently?Writing!
>>36783270>earth movement aren't exactly unusual close to a river.Just drag it away from the river a bit.>burrowing creaturesThe odds of some large creature burrowing through that exact spot for some reason seems unlikely. Even if such a thing does exist.
>>36783287Or on skyscrapers!http://www.domu.com/blog/chicago-earths-1-tourism-destination-forballooning-spiders
>>36783351spiders always belong above.
>>36783367Spiders must always be on top?
>>36783425Actually, they usually prefer having some leaves on top.
You spot a decent looking tree, and drive your boat into the shoreline, the sudden grind jostling your friends back to wakefulness.You don't get much help setting up your sleeping arrangements- Sara's silk was mostly spent earlier, and as tired as she is, you arent sure she could weave straight. You tuck the boat into a thick set of branches overhead, weaving above and below alike, forming a slightly softer floor and a few light walls. You haul your less vertically incline friends into the impromptu nest, thought you leave Sara's canopy on the floor below. Blankets and food are passed out in equal measure, though you still end up as the centrepiece- everyone is curled against you, one way or another.You let loose a yawn of your own, and lean back over your shell. Not your favourite way to sleep, but definitely the least space consuming. _________________________________________________________You wake a few times in the night- The breeze carrying scents of creatures unknown, rather than the reassuring smell of our family home. Sara shivers a bit in her sleep as howls echo in the woods, and you pull her closer, listening to her breath calm as she clutches at your arm. You let yourself fall back asleep to the slow sway of the leaves in the night air.You wake again- a few hours later, by the moon. Dawn is nearing, but there's a smell below, a sound you don't quite like.Shifting people in every direction, you manage to lean you head over edge of your nest, and are greeted by by luminous eyes, surrounding the base of your tree. There's a darkness around them that defies your vision- You can't make out the shifting forms flowing over the ground below. Your eyes narrow, your heart beating faster as you get ready...>Snarl. Scare them off!>Jaws of earth. You'll probably be tired come morning, though. >Get your spear loose, blast the biggest set of eyes you can find. (-1 charge for tomorrow.)>Other (?)
>>36783627>Snarl. Scare them off!
>>36783627>>Other (?)stay quiet and stay armed at the ready.They probably don't even care about us right now.
>>36783627>Other (?)Greet them. "I'm a giant spider, who are you?"
>>36783627>>Get your spear loose, blast the biggest set of eyes you can find. (-1 charge for tomorrow.)If I, a giant spider, have to come down there everyone is getting eaten.
>>36783627>>Snarl. Scare them off!
>>36783627>Snarl. Scare them off!Just showing a bit of our size should make most predators realise this isn't a meal worth trying for.
>>36783627>Attempt diplomacy first"I am Lyra. I am a Giant Spider. Who are you."Depending on their response, snarl, attack or greet accordingly.
Taking a shot at intimidation!gimme 2d100, please!
>>36783627>>Get your spear loose, blast the biggest set of eyes you can findGet off my lawn punks!
Rolled 61, 82 = 143 (2d100)>>36783810Here come the ones.
Rolled 95, 100 = 195 (2d100)>>36783810RAWR
Rolled 43, 99 = 142 (2d100)>>36783810
Rolled 74, 83 = 157 (2d100)>>36783810
Rolled 82, 88 = 170 (2d100)>>36783810
Rolled 59, 70 = 129 (2d100)>>36783810
>>36783834>>36783810Let the earth tremble with our ferocity.
>>36783834RAWR indeed!The joys of being a Alpha predator.
>>36783834Damn.Your spiderbark is as good as your spiderbite.
>>36783834STERN FACE PREVAILS
>>36783834Did we just give the monsters heart attacks?
>>36783834Damn. We intimidated the fuck out of them.I think we just gave a few of them heart attacks.
>>36783834I love being me.
>>36783834Holy shit. Giant Spiders are fucking terrifying.
>>36783879I don't know WHY we got the sternest face.But we use it.
Poor little garden snakes. They're going to be so terrified.
>>36783834the fuck? does she light herself on fire with her fire powers before charging them?!?!
>>36783926Damn.If only we had better low light vision to see how snakey they were.
maybe the many eyes we are scaring off are a few Beholders, descendents of cyclops and gorgons.That would be a shame though.
>>36783958We have excellent low light and night vision. It's likely they have shadow powers like that bear we ate.
>>36783984that still doesn't negate we need BETTER low light vision to see these guys.
>>36783958The second roll was to become their alpha
>>36783968Beholders are racist, xenophobic dicks, though, with god complexes a plane wide.... god it would be so much fun breaking one down by gently but firmly petting her eye stalks while her eye beams do nothing against us.
>>36783958They're all terrified in place till morning.. or well the cutest one is.
>>36783968Our 100 clearly means that poor Beholder girl starts crying and we can hug her and pet her eye-stalks.
>>36784028But.. I.. wanted a cockney Lima...
>>36784055REQM said those live more likely on the elf-island, IIRC.
>>36784055Why not both? We can continue our quest of acquiring monsters like they were pokemon.
>>36784055We all do anon, we all do. Don't worry, we'll find one eventually, even if this is something else.
>>36784007>>36784028Look at that pic, spider-siblings.They are a race that need to exist so we can meet them and headpat them. The universe will not allow it otherwise.I got the pic from cyclops civilization quest btw.
>>36784028I would love to scare whatever's down there so bad we get minions!
>>36784097...Nin, is that you?
>>36784094Its the Beholder or "Gazer" pic from the MGE, actually.
>>36784094I'm not actually that psyched on headpatting all the things.
>>36784143We can hug them too, or rub their bellies. Variety is the spice of life.
>>36784077Huh, really?... Then we really must get to Elfa Elfa Island, posthaste! Not really. I still want to go to elf island sooner rather than much, much later, but I can wait to corrupt tiny tiny lamias.
>>36784143What about uniting the monsterfolk races?
>>36784158I think its in the ask-fm. Because he couldn't find a way to have them work in the forests ecosystem.
>>36784173Don't worry anon. Most of us love head pats, uniting the monsters, and Nin.We've got one or two who only want to sew and make tea cozies. Then one or two who only want the adventure aspect and nothing else.
>>36784208>make tea coziesI actually really liked that idea.
>>36784208I do see a point in taking the head patting too far. I like it as a joke, and doing it to people we like and who enjoy it (they ARE animal creatures, after all), but we can and should reign it back a bit.
>>36784208WHY THE FUCK HAVE WE NOT MADE A SPIDER COZY YET
>>36784261We have already as I see it, it used to be a alot more common.I blame puberty.>>36784314Ask Elle.
>>36784208I wouldn't really throw around words like "most".
>>36784321>ask elleWe still need to wear that sunhat she got us.And then the spidercozy.
>>36784335The vocal consenus?I also get the impression that the majority isn't bothered by it and does in fact like these things, going by votes and the fact that there are only rarely complaints about it.It does indicate "most".
>>36784314Because we'll make the equivalent of those badly knitted scarves from anime.
>>36784391all that means is you are asking people who dislike the status quo to be much louder.
>>36784335Well. Head pats and indulging Nin. Gets Most of the votes. So.. I'd say most is fine.
>>36784454I don't think we've actually voted on a headpat in quite a while.
>>36784436Not really. Loud in relation to their actual number, I guess. Thats why I mentioned votes as measurement, its when we get the strongest indication of what people that follow the quest actually want, since outside of that its really only the most opinionated that talk about it.
>>36784487But we haven't actually voted on headpats since long before people started getting tired of them and anti-headpat sentiment occurred.And we have a continuous theme of "taunt the moth", rather than "pamper the moth", whenever votes occur.
You need to leave early in the morning.You are tired, and far from home, and everything is waking you up all the godsdamn time and YOU WILL NOT TOLERATE STUPID EYES.You've already started hissing- not just the sinister release of air slipping past your fans, but your tufts, your face is heating up, and the air around you is starting to try and escape.The noises below, slow, stop.The eyes turn to meet your gaze.You click, hiss- and some ungodly cross between a furious spider's clattering collides with the sounds of fire spitting, earth cracking. The ground below trembles, the eyes standing transfixed by your fury.Your lips peel back, your jaw opens, steam and fury pouring out, catching the light of your blazing shoulders, illuminating your face in a single, hazy moment of monstrous fury.Whatever has circled your nest wants no part of this- eyes crash into each other in the shadows below, crawling atop each other in an attempt to flee your anger. You snort as the last trails of shadow vanish into the bushes, letting go of your heat and leaning back into the nest. "Lyyy- Lyyyrrrrra? Waasit?""Nin? It is nothing, yes. Go back to sleep.""Mmmmmkay."The moth nestles back against you, and you close your eyes. Hopefully you can catch a few hours uninterrupted._________________________________________________________The morning light wakes you, the same as always. It isn't home, but there's work to be done. You start to rouse your friends, poking each in turn till you've freed yourself from their grasp. The plan is simple- Get the boat down, get some food in everyone, and get going.
>>36784464>>36784522When Nin evolved was the last time, actually.Wasn't even a direct option, it won by loud public approval.
>>36784545Sara ferries each member of your team down to the ground as you slice the boat free of your webbing. You'll have to eat a lot to replace all this. There's a lack of conversation below, so you pick up the pace, dropping from the tree with your boat, raising a questioning eyebrow to your sister. She simply points behind you, and you turn-The bottom of the tree is surrounded by food. Wolves, a pair of deer, rabbits and more are piled against the trunk. You start to laugh.Tribute.The creatures left tribute.Your good mood lasts all through breakfast, despite- no, all the more so because of your friends confusion.It isn't long before your pushing off again, canopy firmly anchored over your companions as you set sail.You've got a bit of extra energy, and a lot of extra Lyra fuel- maybe you can take a shot at something different?>Magic your boat faster! (How?)>That's a paddlin'.>Tugboat, spider edition.>Other (?)
>>36784561Yeah. And I didn't oppose because, while I don't like it, I don't want to get in people's fun.If you're going to say that because I didn't take my chance to be vocal, I don't exist outright, then all that really means is you are asking me and folk who agree with me to to yell "NO FUN FOR YOU" as loud as people having fun yell about their fun.
>Tugboat, spider edition.
>>36784464Because at this point we're doing it on reflex without any prompting.
>>36784562>Tugboat, spider edition.>Other (?)Can we like, leave some of the food for those guys?Or write a "sorry for growling, I am grumpy while asleep" note?You know, some real quick thing.
>>36784562>Tugboat, spider edition.also laughing hard at them leaving tribute.
>>36784562>That's a paddlin'.
>>36784562>Tugboat, spider edition.we are strong, we need to move, and we have a fire in our gut that can mach any steamboat. Huckleberry Fin can kiss our ass.
>>36784562>>Tugboat, spider edition.>The creatures left tribute.Wa ha ha~>>36784545We need to cuddle with Jin more. She's been very quiet.>>36784487I like headpats, but I would like to point out that the anonymous nature of the chan is always a spoiling factor in determining popularity, so we should be reticent to determine "vocal support" as an indicator.
>>36784562>Tugboat, spider edition.We can hold our breath for hours at a time with no problems. Let's give it a try. Just walk along the riverbed, towing the boat. If it isn't any easier, we can switch back to paddling or something.
>>36784608>>36784587Eh, it's come up in discussion more than few times, from both sides.Reqm rations it out, so it's not an every second type thing- we usually see it every other or every third thread.
>>36784615They can't read notes...It were wild animals that tried to appease another, bigger predator to not eat them. Its a not uncommon thing.
>>36784562>>Magic your boat faster! (How?)Jam your pole into the riverbed, and call on your earth magic to propel you forward.
>>36784652They might be able to read notes.We have literally no idea who or what they were.If they can read notes, then I'd like to leave a note. If they can't, then I wasted 20 seconds, big whoop.
>>36784587>I don't exist outright,What are you talking about? He didn't say anything like that.Anon just said most people seem to like the head-patting. Then you took umbrage with the word 'most'.
>>36784562Well, either they were really scared unfriendly creatures into helping us, or they were friendly the whole time and we scarred them off for no reason, whoever they were.>>36784637Jin *has* been quiet hasn't she. I miss her squaking. maybe if we have her reaction/feelings to Sheszka getting poisoned.
>>36784680Yep, I did.Because I've been in conversations where me and many other anons have said "we're sick of that headpatting".Don't be so quick to say people are an incredible minority or don't exist just because they don't want to constantly be the fun police. It's entirely possible to not like something, but not feel the need to remind people every single time it comes up like you suggest.
>>36784637>so we should be reticent to determine "vocal support" as an indicatorWhich is exactly what I said yes.Votes are the only way to come close to determining this kind of thing, since otherwise only people that care really hard bother to talk about it.But since only very rarely people complain, and the headpatting and indulging Nin is definitly very visually present in the thread, that does lend credence to the assumption that it is very popular.Does it prove that? No. But we don't really know either way, so its the only indication we have.>>36784587It doesn't take yelling to make once opinion known, not sure why you jump to extremes like that. It completly suffices to add something to that effect to your vote if you disapprove of a certain trend. A single comment is all it takes.You can have and express a opinion without attacking others for theirs.I know, kinda unbelievable on /tg/, but it can happen.
>>36784726>Don't be so quick to say people are an incredible minority or don't existHere's an idea, why don't you stop being a whiny faggot that puts words in peoples mouths.I didn't say that. The other anon didn't say that.
>>36784562>OtherCan we set Lann and Sara to making a big kite, and anchoring it to the barge with spider silk?Then Jinn can take the kite up high enough to catch some wind, and help pull the barge along. It probably won't be enough to move the barge on its own, but combined with Lyra pulling/pushing with a pole, it should make it easier.
>>36784768Anon, you sort of have to yell if you wish to be as loud as the people who are actually having a good time.Because people having a good time yell and take up a lot of space with discussion on how much they like a thing.
>>36784726>and manyNow you're using that word. For all you know it could have been you and another one.So its okay if you do it?
>>36784780The guy outright said anyone who wasn't of his stance was a minority opinion. That's what claiming to be the majority means.
>>36784784People can't actually "yell" in written medium, so your post will still be there, and will be read.
>>36784800Many actually avoids the issue most brings up entirely. It's no claim of majority.
Tugboats, and maybe an apology?Gimme 3d100!
Rolled 12, 82, 53 = 147 (3d100)>>36784824
Rolled 12 (1d100)>>36784824
Rolled 89, 64, 37 = 190 (3d100)>>36784824
Rolled 25, 78, 11 = 114 (3d100)>>36784824
>>36784812And yet, people are asking me to have as many posts about how I don't like something as the guys who do like something have about how much they like it.So if they go on for 30 posts about all the ways they like patting heads, you're asking for 30 posts of people saying how much they hate patting heads or else they suddenly are a huge minority.That kind of policy would make an incredibly unfriendly quest.
>>36784818But its a claim of a larger group. Which is just as unsubstantiated.It might be two guys who dislike it for all we know.So how about we all stick to expressing our personal opinion without trying to conjure groups behind us, where there might be none?
Rolled 17, 83, 47 = 147 (3d100)>>36784824
Rolled 55, 40, 29 = 124 (3d100)>>36784824
>>36784866Many has no implications of "larger", anon.That's entirely your reading of it.Which is why it was used instead of "most".
>>36784855And plus it's incredibly stressful for the person in opposition, speaking as someone who got dragged into arguments about something he didn't like in a quest so often that it was easier just to bail on the quest.
>>36784855I would assume you have some interesting reason for not wanting headpatting thats worth talking about in a civilized fashion.If it really amounts to" I happen to not like this thing other people like", then I see no reason why that needs mentioning. I dislike a lot of things that happen in any given quest, but I realise it as my personal taste and don't bring it up unless I have a real reason for it.
>>36784913I only brought it up because people acted like I don't exist, or there's no resentment to the idea of headpats.There is, I just have the good goddamn graces to not mention it most times.
>>36784880No, I meant "larger" in the sense of "larger than one person", not "larger than the other group".By which I meant that it still makes a unproven claim about how many people agree with that position.
>>36784899Exactly. It sucks to be in opposition, and it ruins a lot of the fun.So don't immediately think the opposition is a minority in quests just because they are being polite.
>>36784937But he didn't say you don't exist, by saying "most, while not necessarily true, he still acknowledged people who feel otherwise exist.
89 82 and 53!Writing!
>>36784942Why, yes, it would be nice if people didn't make unprovable claims about how many people agreed with them.Hence this entire dispute.>>36784964Acknowledged then immediately declared them a minority, sure.
>>36784804As other anons have pointed out. That opinion has been an observed minority.No one ever claimed other views didn't exist. Just that that view has been expressed less.Your stupid complaining that "we don't like head pats, we just didn't speak up" is retarded. You are trying to speak for unconfirmed anons that may or may not be figments of your imagination.Just assuming that lots of other anons exist and agree with you without them speaking up is dumb.
see>>36784984>>36784942Please stop making unprovable claims about how everyone agrees with you.It has been seen that both sides of the argument have many participants in numerous threads.That is as far as we can go with it.
>>36785019er, this goes to>>36784993for the first link that is missing.
>>36784984>Acknowledged then immediately declared them a minority, sure.People on the internet have a habit for hyperbole, its a thing. The "many" conversation proves that sufficently. Maybe we should just not take every word serious as written and rather look at the intent, which in his case was to say that some people, him included are in favor of these things.Just as the anon who claimed "many" said they are sick of headpatting, meant he had been in conversations which a number of replies to that effect which made him think several people shared his opinion.
>this whole argumentAnd that is why word choice is important, ladies and gentlemen.
I can imagine Lyra getting LoZ:MM messages in the morning.Dawn of The Second Day-240 Hours Remain-
>>36785131Fuck you and fuck that, we don't have a time flute.
>>36785068Like we learned the thread before last with the word "guaranteed".
>>36785170>Like we learned the thread before lastImplying any lesson was learned. Chose your words more carefully anon.
>>36785170Not really no, It meant exactly what it said.Some just assumed it didn't for some reason.
>>36785213I object to your use of the word "was".
>>36785272YOU CAN'T PROVE IT WAS MORE THAN ONE PERSON! Well, at leas the thread isn't so quiet anymore. Now if only we could have a productive conversation just as vivid. I kinda miss the spiderbutt knife fights.
How many noticed Lyra finally got her full title in the pastebin?
>>36785293Hey, anything to keep me busy until the next post.And because I don't want to extend the todo list. We've already got airships and spider cozies and houses on there.
>>36785293Alright, if you want knives out that badly.Fellow participants, who is the fluffiest?You're wrong
>>36785336>>36785293Nevermind that.You want a knife fight?Final tier evolutions are mythical/demigod type shit.What will Lyra be, as the quest draws to a conclusion?Place your bets here, gentlemen. Make the call, win it all.
>>36785364I don't know about who is fluffiest, but I think we are too fluffy.Fluff around the arms, being moving parts, would be SUPER FUCKING ANNOYING. Just like having hair too long on your neck, but multiplied by a lot as your neck doesn't do nearly the kind of range of motion as your arms get up to.
>>36785370Oh yeah.I'm sticking to Four-Arms Asura spider. Vulcan spider, master of the forge would be fine too, but I doubt we are ver going to focus on forge powers as much as I would like to
>>36785370That's easy.She's going to be the Immortal Queen who has an immortal collection of Monsterbutts.
When will we get a snake friend?
>>36785433Tiny snake scarf when?
>>36785364All of them: Jin has sleek feathers with a downy underneath that's super soft, Nin has a fuzziness that is irresistable to pet, and Shez's silky smooth fur and fluffed underbelly is to die for. And Lann has the comfiest butt outside of skullbutts and legs that go on for days.>>36785370Lyra will be Mother Earth Spider. All shall find comfort and solace living on her verdant spiderbutt.>>36785433When the time is right, anon. Have patience. I am still tickled pink that one other person liked my tiny Cockney lamia joke. I'm not assuming more like it, and I don't want to push it too hard because I know it might annoy some people.
>>36785419>Stating the obviousYeah, we all know that. The question is; what kind of Magic-Spider will we be when we become Queen?
>>36785468Queen Spiderbutt is it's own Element.
>>36785466>I'm not assuming more like it, and I don't want to push it too hard because I know it might annoy some people.HOW DARE YOU SAY NO ONE HOLDS THAT OPINION AND WE DON'T EXIST JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEAK UP?!
>>36785554you REALLY need to stop kicking sleeping dogs, anon.
>>36785599Seriously. Let it lie. It makes it easier to pet that way.
Dinner distractions. Posting resumes shortly.My apologies.
>>36785621Mumble grumble muffled explative
>>36785640You remind me I should really eat something today.
>>36785466I am finally available to participate. I enjoy the idea of a Tiny Cockney Lamia doctor to bring with us, silly though it may be. Hell, I wrote that little piece last thread because I found the idea so amusing.
>>36785599Somebody's kicking Sheszka? What a horrible person. We should execute them immediatly.
>>36785752What piece? I just looked (i.e. Ctrl+F "lamia" and "cockney") and didn't see anything.>>36785782We've shown we have and will murderlize anything that kicks our wolfu.
>>36785640Gentlemen, I bring you science! Granted this would have been much more useful science earlier, but I bring you science nonetheless. Trying to figure out how to balance the boat most perfectly, I calculated the weight of each of the monster girls in the quest, using suitable natural comparisons and extrapolating based off size and a 1.5 factor on some for added bone density/people parts being added on.That said, the weights (by my estimates), would be as follows.> Lyra: 716kg (assuming 8 foot length on spider body) She is roughly the size of a draft horse and a little heavier due to her chitin> Sara: 60 kg (assuming 4 foot length on spider body)Tiny sister is best sister> Jin: 30kg (assuming 5 foot body length)> Shezka/Lann: 70kg apieceBecause they are roughly human> Nin: 4.5kg (assuming that she is 1.5 feet tall)According to buoyancy, a raft sized to carry everyone would need to be about 12 feet by 5 feet. Lyra being in front would case the raft to tip an entire 4 inches forward, meaning she should realistically have to sit in the center.
back and writing!
>>36785990Never speak of our weight ever again.
>>36785990Mixing metric weights and imperial lengths? You monster. Thanks for the work, though, and goddamn Lyra is hella huge.
>>36785852Look for "think meat". Less of a piece, more of a bit. For the record, I'm with you on the tiny lamia, but I'm dropping off when you start talking about butts.
>>36783627>Snarl. Scare them off!PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SLEEPFUCK OFF
>>36785990Okay most of that I can buy but>Sara 60kgDefinitly not. She is not that much smaller. She is smalle than the rest of the giant spiders, but she is only slightly smaller than our brothers.For a girl of her approximate maturity, 60kg are already pretty close.
>>36786064Are you the same person that voted extremely, extremely late on Ryukuza Quest? It's not that amusing.
>>36786056I'm more surprised at how tiny Sara apparently is.A giant spider that weighs less than a half elf?For shame.
>>36786056Very sorry. Americans don't know how to conceptualize a meter for the most part. I'm an engineer, so fuck the American system, but I figured it would help some folks visualize things better. I just didn't feel like shifting kilo's to pounds. Proper raft dimensions would be 1.5mx4m if it makes you feel better. The vessel would sit at 18cm deep in the water.
>>36786120That would of helped if it were not for the fact that I AM American. I appreciate your effort, though.>>36786063And that's perfectly fine. I'm going to give it a look, then.
>>36786093I couldn't remember how big Sara was, or how big we were pre-widow evolution. If you'll recall, REQM said she didn't grow much at all when she evolved from her base evolution, though her shell changed color.Before that, I think of us as being kid sized, which would make Sara adorably chibi sized still. It's possible that she would be six feet by six feet, which would make her as tall as your average person, but I found the modest height more amusing.
>>36785990You get definitly thumbs up for effort from me. But I don't think the spider nor moth measurements really add up.Especially Sara in comparison to Lyra.How did you get to those differences?
>>36786194>she didn't grow much at allShe actually got smaller. But we weren't child sized back then anymore, and before she was actually bigger than our brothers, so she is no Loli spider.
>>36786101YesI only look at the minutes on the post, not the hours, so I come back after being away for a while, forget whether or not I refreshed, see the minutes and think 'Okay, I'm in time' and then everything goes terrible and I want to close the thread out of embarrassment. Please don't hate me
>>36786225No, you shall be hated for all of eternity. It's all cool.
>>36786120>Americans don't know how to conceptualize a meterThough to be honest most americans don't know how to conceptualize eight vertical feet either.
>>36786258I just pretend I'm standing next to Yao Ming.
>>36786225>using "___ minutes ago" instead of absolute time posted.>absolutelydisgusting.jpg
>>36786199To begin with, I used the huntsman spider, a species known to have a central body length of roughly one inch and a total body mass of 0.54 grams. Taking that base scale dimension and scaling it by 48 (48 inches in 4 feet), I know that the total increase of Sarah's mass should be 48 cubed, because the scale acts on three dimensions.Multiplying her mass as such, I get something like 40kg. However, unlike a real spider, Sara has a girl's torso on top. The cube squared law also means she would likely need denser "bones" to stand properly. I am no doctor of medicine, so I simply used a 1.5 times scale from here.As for the discrepancy between her and Lyra, Lyra is just much bigger than she is. The 2 times scale becomes an 8 times factor in weight gained.
>>36785990I think Nin is bigger then that, probably 3 1/2 to 4 feet tall. Very cool though.
>>36785990I don't think Nin is 1.5 feet tall
>>36786346>However, unlike a real spider, Sara has a girl's torso on top.Which you calculated for only 20kg?Thats very low, she is only missing her legs, so she should have at least twice that.I would hav thought the difference would come from the giant skull, because Lyra is not nearly twice as large as her sister.
>>36786346Ah, it would seem that Sara would actually be heavier than my original estimate. I did not include the factor for weight because 90kg seemed excessive. Under that, she would weigh 90 kg or her spider weight, plus the roughly 30 kg of human weight and/or extra muscle, bone, etc.
>>36786346I'm kind of wondering if Lyra weighing just under the weight of a Clydesdale would affect her ability to climb trees.
You spend a quick moment searing a simple apology into the trunk of your tree.You don't know if they speak, let alone forest language, but it never hurts to try.You grab the mooring ropes at the front of your boat, urging the earth to meet your feet beneath the water's surface, arranging your friends so the boat floats properly on the surface.And with the ropes over one shoulder- and your friends laughing behind you, despite your mission- you take your first step as a glorified tugboat.Jin hops to the bow, perching there like a figurehead.A mermaid would probably work better. And Jin is the wrong kind of harpy for boats, anyway. Not that people on boats want the right kind of harpy around, but-"Lyra?""Hmm? Yes?""Why was there food beneath the tree, yes?""Ah. Something was sneaking about in the night, yes? And it woke me up.""Yes?""I may have growled a little. To scare them off."Lann is starting to laugh, now, while Jin looks between the two of you."Did... did you scare something so bad that it brought you food just so you wouldn't eat it?""Several somethings, yes? There were eyes in the dark.""They do tend to stick out in the moonlight.""No, no- Arachne can see in the dark, yes? There was some sort of magical darkness around them."Jin nods."Like the dungeon, yes?"You incline your head, keeping pace. It takes a bit of concentration, but the ground wants to help, so the only real limit here is your stamina. Magical stamina. Mental stamina? You just know you get tired eventually. "The same, yes. But no convenient runes.""Eyes, instead.""Hah. Yes."Jin spreads her wings behind you, flapping a few times to take measure."I will hunt yes? Just fish. But I will be helping."You throw a smile over your shoulder, and she takes to the sky, shooting forwards overhead.
>>36786448Lann moves up to take her place, though the half-elf refrains from sitting on the bow."She seems eager.""She likes to be useful, yes? She gets frustrated when she can't help.""You seem to have that in common.""Maybe."Step, step, step. It's certainly faster that rowing, in any case."Will you make a report for the guild, when this is all done?""Huh?""You said they might pay you, yes.""Ah. Yeah- I wrangled a commission from the officer in town. I bring back details on what's around in the woods, I get paid.""Well, I hope."She laughs."He tried to make it out that I wouldn't be in any danger with an arachne escort, and I had to spell out the hydra fight for him."She shakes her head."He agreed eventually. Haggled like a godsdamn old woman, though.""Papers and notes and reports, yes. He seems the type.""Sometimes I wonder if he's even an adventurer.""Sometimes?""Well, sometimes he comes down to the training room to remind us he's and adventurer."It's your turn to laugh, this time. ___________________________________________The sun is casting a red glow that dances over the water, and you are starting to lag. You managed to stave off a headache with rests for snacks and lunch, but you're still getting tired. Magical stuff just takes it out of you.Jin has piled the boat high with fish- Sara made a few bags, filled them with water and dropped the things in it to keep them fresh in the sunlight.You drag the boat to shore, and set about using the last rays of daylight to have a meal with your friends.
>>36786468That's it for tonight!Thanks for playing.We'll go ahead and schedule our next session for Thursday, 2PM EST!Comments, questions and concerns answered in thread!
>>36786433Well, I guess as with most things, we appeal to the power of magic and suspension of disbelief. You are correct though, most trees, even were she to fan our her weight between 8 limbs, would not be able to hold that much spider.>>36786423>>36786413Keep in mind for this the somewhat marginal height I gave her. My imagination put her at four feet tall, and a human child of comparable height would have a smaller weight than a fully grown adult, something like 30 kg taken whole, or 15 assuming a 50/50 split.
>>36786492It was fun.Will we find out just who/what we scared so badly?
>>36786492Has Sheszka been sleeping the entire time?>>36786448>A mermaid would probably work better. And Jin is the wrong kind of harpy for boats, anyway. Not that people on boats want the right kind of harpy around, but-Jin would be perfect for an airship.
>>36786492See you next time!
>>36786492How tall are the various members of our band, especially with regards to Sara and Nin?
>>36786492Thanks for running.
>>36786525I feel like we went SLIGHTLY overboard if they are giving us offerings now.
>>36786492Thanks for running you Giant Canadian Spider.Now that it's over, can you tell us what the creatures in the dark were? What exactly did we traumatise last night?
>>36786628Tiny Cockney Lamias
>>36786610They most likely planned to attack us. Scaring them off was definitly not going overboard.And if the give us free food, thats how the forest works. I doubt they starved themselves for it.
>>36786525>>36786567>>36786576Thanks for playing!>>36786571Sara is about 5'6" when she's not trying to appear taller.Nin can almost reach 5' on her tip-toes. She's about 4'9"ish.>>36786533She spends a lot of time sleeping and sweating. It's something like a superfever.The healing dust keeps the pain down, and let's her sleep easily. >>36786525Maybe!
>>36786655Wow, Nin is a lot taller than I imagined. I had her pegged for halfling sized. And Sara is tiny tiny spider sister~Since we're on the subject, Jin and Shez? And are elves short or tall in this setting?
>>36786655Nin's wingspan is glorious. Because of their flight, most types of moths have about 3 or 4 to 1 ratio on body length to their wingspans. I'll keep that in mind and science more accurately next time.Thanks for running. Also, maybe next time I'll be able to sell folks on the usefulness of paddle wheel technology and/or stilts.
>>36786628It's a secret to everybody!Not me though.I know everything.Also, I saw the posts throughout the thread.I'll try and get the pastes updated tomorrow! It'll be something to do while I wait for labs.I was quite happy with the thread, at least from the perspective of posting speed. Getting posts out for 30-45 instead of 45+ was nice.
>>36786655How big is Lyra anyway? How long is her body and how tall is she?
>>36786735Thanks for running, always a pleasure.
>>36786735Just keep it up. Practice makes perfect. Also terribly sorry to hear that your school hasn't let out on winter break yet.
>>36786646Scaring them was fine, I mean we scared them TOO HARD.The amount of scaring was overboard normal scaring levels.
>>36786832Nah. If you get threatened ina dark forest, you can't scare too hard unless they actually die from it.It just means we won't have to kill them, which I consider a win for everyone except our stomach.
>>36786832Nah, it was just us asserting dominance. It's all fine. And us laying seeds for our Queendom.
>>36786712Sara's tiny for an arachne, yes. And Nin's actually grown recently- both from her evolution and just regular aging. She was 4'9" before- or rather, she claimed to be 4'9" before. But 6 inches of that was her antennae.Jin is pretty big for a harpy, almost 5'2". Sheszka is 5'7" when she's standing straight, though you'd be hard pressd to get her to do that.Elves are all over the map height-wise. Your father is almost freakishly tall. He's 6'4".Lann is average, coming in at 5'8".>>36786755Lyra stands nearly 6'9" when she isn't trying to be taller. She's probably about 8-9 feet long? It's really hard to estimate that stuff, sorry.Mom is 6'10", but she counts her horns and rounds up to 7'.>>36786791Thanks for playing!>>36786813It was a good thread!My school is accelerated, so it went straight through summer. Ill be done early January.
>>36786865well maybe I suppose it's for the best->>36786882NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>36786865>>36786882I'm fairly certain it as a net gain for your stomach, spider-glutton.
>>36786925Have we ever found out WHERE our stomach is?
>>36784562>Tribute.>The creatures left tribute.that means they were sapient. We could have probably talked to them and maybe made friends
>>36787347We'll probably encounter them again.
>>36787347yeah, like I said, we went SLIGHTLY overboard.Did we ever actually leave that note? I didn't see.
>>36787347Keep in mind two of the other options on that action were to directly attack them. If we had decided to camp on the ground that night, I'd bet they would have attacked us directly. I think we made the right choice.
>>36786468>The sun is casting a red glow that dances over the water, and you are starting to lag. You managed to stave off a headache with rests for snacks and lunch, but you're still getting tired. Magical stuff just takes it out of you.It occurs to me that fully exhausting ourself every day to gain speed is a risk, as we get deeper there are more and more dangerous monsters. Exhausted people can't fight.We need to pace ourselves
>>36787397>You spend a quick moment searing a simple apology into the trunk of your tree.>You don't know if they speak, let alone forest language, but it never hurts to try.Step up, anon.
>>36787397Think about it this way: there was every indication that they were hostile to us. Not only did we resolve it without bloodshed, but they are now in a position where they are more than willing to approach, if they do approach, peacefully.
>>36787347Normal animals do that to larger predators, actually. It doesn't mean sapience at all.
>>36787468>there was every indication that they were hostile to us.no there wasn't.they could have been curious nocturnal people who were looking at this odd thing they haven't see before.>>36787397We did leave a note
>>36787560I am gonna have to call bullshit here.
>>36787347Its a instinct thing, many animals leave prey behind when larger predators are around to keep them from eating them.Not saying that weren't intelligent things, but we have no reason to assume so. Its a common thing for predatory animals that are also being preyed on.
>>36787583Feel free, you'd be wrong though.You drastically understimate the range of self-preservation tactics that exist in the animal realm.
>>36787591>Its a instinct thingno it isn't, its a "does not exist thing".>many animals leave prey behind when larger predators are around to keep them from eating them."dropping your shit and running away" is completely different than piling up multiple untouched dead animals as tribute
>>36787631>is completely different than piling up multiple untouched dead animals as tributeWe don't know they did that. They might have left stuff they already had. In fact, most likely they did.
>>36787708highly implausible for non sapient wild animals to have dragged a whole bunch of untouched carcasses (Wolves, a pair of deer, rabbits and more) with them on a hunt.They either eat prey as they catch it. or they stow it away and then go out for more. You can't really effectively hunt while carrying a bunch of carcasses
>>36787708Nah, they were deliberately piled against the trunk of the tree. It's tribute.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lK4cX5xGiQ
>>36787708I'm not involved in this conversation until now, but HOLD IT.The goods were piled against the tree. This implies either they were purposely brought there, or the creatures not only all had large amounts of caught food, they were also several layers high so as to drop their catches in a "pile" if they fled.The evidence just doesn't match up unless they were doing it on purpose.
>>36787708If they just dropped it where they stood, then it would be all over the floor instead of>>36784562>The bottom of the tree is surrounded by food. Wolves, a pair of deer, rabbits and more are piled against the trunk.>piled against the trunk.
>>36787779one addendum to my argument here:This MAY ALSO mean we saw a several-creature-deep killswarm.
>>36787779Or they dropped the hunt they had with them just at the tree trunk and fled, so we would be busy eating that stuff instead.It says the trunk is "sorrounded" the piled can very well refer to it being disorderly some above the others, not in literal neat piles. If they were sapient, they would have realised we were sitting in a boat. And either have attempted communication, or not just stared at us from down there.Unless it was something feralized like the lizards, in which case there wasn't really anything to be gained beyond what we did.
>>36787763>or they stow it away and then go out for moreVery possibly they crossed our tree on the way to their nest. Yes. Which would very much explain why they had so much food, and depending on how many they were, that it was "piled" around, could just come from there being so much of it.
>>36787855The forensics just don't match up.It requires too odd a disposition of creatures and too coincidental a food supply.the REAL question is whether they can read.Because if they can't, then we just left scary fire runes burnt into the tree.
>>36787933I don' see how. A larger group of animals, possibly part of a large pack with many young, drags a appropriate amount of food to their lair. On the way, they smell something odd in a nearby tree and go there, something huge and obviously dangerous comes out, they drop their prey and flee. Since they had sorrounded the tree, as is usual, the dropped prey would lie all around the tree, and since they didn't drop it all at the same time, some might have at first tried to keep it but dropped it when they found it slowed them down.It adds up perfectly.The question would be to REQM. HOW orderly were those "piles".
>>36787996You're trying way to hard to justify your position. Besides, if that were the case then they wouldn't be piled against the tree trunk, they would be strewn out around the tree.
>>36788026Not really, I think you are trying to see more design were simple coincidence suffices.Nothing about their behavior otherwise suggests intelligence.
>>36788059It suggests either intelligence or an extreme string of coincidence.And on a planet populated by intelligent beings, I am more likely to err on the side of intelligence rather than a string of 3+ coincidence.Just like if you meet a talking dog wearing a hat telling you to go on a quest, you don't ignore it. You go save the world.
>>36788110What kind of hat is the dog wearing? That affects my world saving mood.
>>36788137I imagined a baseball cap.
>>36788110>or an extreme string of coincidenceNot really, as I explained before.It would only be extreme coincidence if it were really orderly piles. As far as we know, it were just some animals lying over eachother.And since there are only 12 intelligent races in the forest, non-intelligent, seems more likely.I mean, the possibility of them not wanting to kill us is why we voted for yelling instead of killing them outright, but since 2/3 options were that, I heavily assume REQM would not go "you killed find crying and grieving monster mothers under your tree next morning".So yeah, all evidence suggests animals. Maybe unsual animals, possibly something like the gnomes.
>>36788178You do realize that we started calling it tribute because Lyra called it that, right? If they were randomly dropped then she would have said that, and not call it tribute and carve an apology on the tree.
>>36788234She called it tribute because animals left behind to keep something from eating you, can very much be called that. Lyra didn't give it much thought, it was just funny.
>>36787905>>or they stow it away and then go out for more>Very possibly they crossed our tree on the way to their nest. Yes.No, because1. piling it up against the tree is not stowing it away2. The quantity and diversity of animals carried is far too large to have come from a single hunt. Had they dropped a pair of deer, that would be somewhat plausible, they were carrying them to a safe spot to eat.
>>36788301She apparently gave it enough thought to carve an apology on the tree. Also> "Did... did you scare something so bad that it brought you food just so you wouldn't eat it?"Brought, mate. And this is the last time I'm responding, because you're just being purposefully obtuse at this point.
>>36788366>The quantity and diversity of animals carried is far too large to have come from a single huntEntirely dependend if the entire group had hunted ina s ingle spot. Since it was obviously a very large group, that is highly implausible.They wanted to stow it away, they were on the way to the place where they do so, and came across our tree.>>36788386A comment made by a character that had absolutely no idea about the situation in question. Very valid.And again, I have to ask. 2 out of three options were "kill it", do you honestly think REQM would have done it like that if they were intelligent?
>>36788438they probably retroactively became intelligent because it is interesting.
>>36788453Very possible, which is why I'm glad to have voted for not killing them.Its just silly to go "I feel so bad about scaring that predatory animal away from the tree I was sleeping in".
>>36788470Yeah, that was pretty silly. I think some people here just go to moralfaggotry in overreaction to that shitposting last time.
>>36788470Scaring them is fine, I just think we overshot our predicted scare margins.
>>36788541I think its more they overreacted.Its not like we had any reason to hold back on the scares towards these creatures that were stalking beneath our sleeping tree.
>>36788470>I am losing an argument so I will redefine anyone who disagreed with me to have a completely unrelated positionmate, those are two completely different arguments and one can be for one and not the other.
>>36788567>those are two completely different argumentsNo, the question was. Are they intelligent. So the question of if they were intelligent, or if REQm retroactively made them so because its more fun, is very relevant.
>>36788567Do you really think REQM gave it that much thought when he had them pile down food?It was a funny and cool thing for our crit, not indication of higher intelligence on what was otherwise a night time fight.
>>36788601>No, the question was. Are they intelligentwhich is a completely different argument from>Its just silly to go "I feel so bad about scaring that predatory animal away from the tree I was sleeping in".aka>intimidating them was wrongJust because something is sapient, doesn't mean intimidation is wrong.
>>36788688I never implied it wasn't?I was agreeing with that anon who said REQM might make them intelligent in hindsight. That other thing was a unrelated point and I never implied it was related. I just also found that nonsensical.
>>36788688I'm starting to think you are trying to have a argument where none exists anymore.