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    40 KB Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:04 No.3668696  
    "100 years ago, a satellite detected an object under the sands of the Great Desert.
    An expedition was sent.
    An ancient starship, buried in the sand. Deep inside the ruin was a single stone that would change the course of our history forever.
    On the stone was etched a galactic map
    and a single word more ancient than the clans themselves:
    Our home.

    The clans were united and a massive colony ship was designed.
    Construction would take 60 years.
    It would demand new technologies, new industries and new sacrifices.
    The greatest of these was made by the scientist Karan Sjet who herself permanently integrated into the colony ship as its living core.
    She is now Fleet Command.
    The promise of the Guidestone united the entire population.
    Every mind became focused on the true origin of our people ...
    ... every effort on the construction of the ship that would seek it out among the stars. "

    ITT: Kharak falls victim of the Imperial Exterminatus, Mothership survives.

    So what are the chances of Kushani taking over Terra if this was their Homeworld? If none, then how close to Terra would they get? Let's say Kharak is a border planet, as far from Terra as possible yet close enough to the Imperium to be a victim of Exterminatus.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:05 No.3668703

    Maybe to the edge of Segmentum Solar. MAYBE.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:05 No.3668705
    I love EVE online
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:08 No.3668713
    Me too. The Apocrypha update is up on sisi now, by the way.

    Don't expect much though, basically none of the new stuff works, and a lot of old things are broken.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:12 No.3668731
    Damnit OP.
    Now i have to install Homeworld again ...
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:15 No.3668743
    You haven't had it installed? Heresy! It was because you uninstalled it? Extra heresy!
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:20 No.3668769
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    Not worth capturing obsolete imperial vessels at all.

    Lots of Ion frigates, the end.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:30 No.3668801
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    You just HAD to bring 40k shit into it? We couldn't just have a homeworld thread? Really?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:31 No.3668808
    Pure Homeworld would be /v/
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:33 No.3668811
    Any faction in Homeworld would nail the entire 40K galaxy.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:35 No.3668822
    What kind of FTL capable species carves their starmaps in stone tablets, that's what I'd like to know.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:35 No.3668823
    In Homeworld, the Hyperspace core that they had was BIG SHIT. As in, other people had FTL, but with their core they could go farther and faster more often than anyone else.

    So, if that translates to 40k, then they might actually make it to Terra by going AROUND all of the other defenses.

    That said, the Kushan ships are probably no match for imperial vessels. However, the mothership can build ships faster than the Imperials can, and on the spot too. So I can see the Kushan winning some battles just from superior numbers (lol ion frigate spam backed up by 3 battlecruisers).

    They aint taking Terra though. It's just not going to happen.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:35 No.3668824
    The Beast vs Nids

    Poor nids
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:36 No.3668833

    Not necessarily. We could discuss it as a setting for pnp gaming, for example.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:38 No.3668839
    That's because the core unit the Kushan exiles took was one of the three original cores from the Progenitor ship Sajuuk. The hyperspace drives most ships use are reverse-engineered from those.

    It's like comparing, say, the Saturn V to a toy rocket. Same basic principle, but the details are everything.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:39 No.3668841
    Homeworld PnP...... DO WANT.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:40 No.3668849
    >What kind of FTL capable species carves their starmaps in stone tablets, that's what I'd like to know.

    Space Nazis.

    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:41 No.3668853
    There is a lot of fluff about that, how even though stone its, "Advanced." Because of how precise the carving is.

    Seems like stretching the bullshit too thin. But hey, none of us can complain, with the warhammer 40k plot devices right next to that.....
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:41 No.3668855
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    As GAY as the place gets at times, I'd recommend visiting the PDS website for some interesting background/setting around the Vaygr invasion era.

    PDS also gave us a whole fuckton of interesting new ships, some nice gameplay changes (namely missiles on EVERYTHING) and boatloads of fluff.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:42 No.3668859
    >So, if that translates to 40k, then they might actually make it to Terra by going AROUND all of the other defenses.

    Thats what they did in HW - they tried to avoid Taiidani fleet as much as possible, only fighting when necessary.

    >That said, the Kushan ships are probably no match for imperial vessels.

    What's keeping them from building Imperial vessels? We can assume that their technology is relic from DAoT, and with their reverse-engineering capabilities they can not only build similar vessels but also find weakspots in Iperial ships and find ways of countering and defending from Iperial weaponry. Of course if they manage to capture a Imperial ship and survive the initial confrontation with their fleet

    >They aint taking Terra though. It's just not going to happen.

    Well, I have to agree. Even if they managed to wipe out every ship near Terra, they never going to take the planet - too many well trained ground forces.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:42 No.3668861
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:43 No.3668868
    Imperial vessels are STC pattern FREIGHTERS with upscaled guns bolted on.

    And the xenos can barely match that.

    The fucking Kushan are going to own.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:43 No.3668870
    I thought the Guidestone was a big chunk of incredibly resilient space rock laser-carved into a map?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:45 No.3668883
    It was a piece of rock from the moon, not advanced at all. The actual details for the map itself is the only reason why they kept it.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:45 No.3668886
    Chaos finds them, infects Karan, everyone becomes heretic and the inquisition sends an eversor into the mothership to kill her.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:46 No.3668888
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    Holy jesus yes the Kushan are masters of scavenging tech. They built the fucking Mothership in sixty years with nothing but space junk and a crashed prison ship to go on.

    As for scale, look at the Progenitor ruins in HW2 again. Sajuuk is some sort of captain's yacht or something for the colony ship that came to their galaxy. Hell, the Dread fits in a tiny little birth somewhere near the back. The wreckage is SEVERAL AUS LONG AT LEAST.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:47 No.3668890
    Karen is too fucking dedicated to fall to chaos.

    Enjoy missile destroyers, deviant xenos.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:47 No.3668892


    not even a beacon...
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:47 No.3668895
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:48 No.3668899
    TO BEAR.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:50 No.3668907

    ...I saw what you did there. And loled.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:50 No.3668910

    HARD MODE: Find something more grimdark than this music and it's context in Homeworld.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:50 No.3668912

    What is that game?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:51 No.3668917
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    I have to wonder if anything else came of that technology. I mean it's easy to assume that neural interfaces would gradually become more commonplace in the Hiigaran Navy, what with the sheer SIZE of some of their ships and the complexity of their inherent systems. But did they ever manage to duplicate the fully immersive interface?

    Are there, somewhere, in secret, megalithic ships being made along those same lines? Humans used as living command circuits for some kind of colossal warship?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:52 No.3668919
    Homeworld 2. But it never happened.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:53 No.3668928
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    Man all I have to do is play the audio from that cutscene and my friends recognize it instantly. I love my friends.

    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:55 No.3668937
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    Screw you. It wasn't that bad. I keep seeing people bitching about the mythos and it seems to me like they're just misinterpreting things.

    Also get PDS and shut the fuck up.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:56 No.3668942
    Well there has to be some kind of interface to forward commands to individual ships since after all you assume the role as the fleet commander, and as such I always imagined the orderes were broadcasted from Karan to the rest of the fleet.

    As for how they developed the interface, I'd assume it was on those sketches they found on the wreck on Kharak. If not, one can only assume they already had such technology or that it was created during the development (which is less likely).
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:56 No.3668948

    I play PDS for additional dakka. And then some more dakka. Really, it's all about the dakka here.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)08:59 No.3668959
    Sins of a solar empire?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:01 No.3668977
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    One simple mining ship, became a command ship in homeworld cataclysm. So I assume that if a non-military ship has it, all the other ships have them too.

    Then again, it was about the same size as one of the carriers.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:02 No.3668981
    I'm not talking about how the tech came about. Presumably it was something someone was already working on, but put in a radical new context.

    I'm talking about DEVELOPING the technology, for more small-scale use. Cybernetic interface systems for military personnel. Think MMI. Stuff that help you do your job faster.

    As for command interface, I'm imagining something along the level of a big cyber-conference with various admirals talking at each other in their heads. Only way to get orders around a battlefield light years across in anything close to decent response times.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:03 No.3668988
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    Us 500,000 and dwindling every day.

    Us tiny half a million and less every hour.

    From a home of billions set aflame

    Into a universe of untold enemies, us tiny few.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:03 No.3668995
    And yet, we dare hope.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:03 No.3668996
    Australia... is burning.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:03 No.3668997
    In homeworld 1, the hyperspace core was just some generic low quality thing that was fitted on the freighters that took the exiles away. Most of the freighters failed in route (some stopped in a nebula and went insane). They crash land on a desert on the equator on some barely habitable planet at the edge of the galaxy, lose most their tech while trying to reach the habitable poles of the planet. Thousands of years later, they find the crash site under the desert. Whole planet then spends every resource they have reverse engineering it to build a space ship of their own. Using some starmap some guy scrawled before they abandoned ship. Then the nearby enemy naval base burns the planet.

    I HATED the plot to homeworld 2 with it's magical warp drive. Why would some prisoners of war be given an iriplaceable artifac.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:05 No.3669010

    Canon-wise they smuggled it.

    But otherwise yeah, HW2 plot sucked for the most part.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:05 No.3669011
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    >some stopped in a nebula and went insane

    Its called the warp. Idort.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:05 No.3669013
    They weren't given it, they smuggled it IIRC.

    That's what the war was fought over that got them exiled.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:05 No.3669014
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    Sometimes, correct grammar sounds better.

    Oh and if you need any more incentive to play PDS, there's the QJE, the Majestic, the Black Rose. And they made Flack Frigates JAWESOME.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:06 No.3669015
    See what I said earlier about misinterpretation?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:08 No.3669022
    Yeah. I could totaly see a someone slipping a 5000 ton object the size of a large office building past the guards while they were loading onto the prisoner transport.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:09 No.3669024
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:09 No.3669026
    Wait...the hyperdrives they use are quantum tunnelling devices aren't they? So they don't really do that whole "parallel dimension" thing, they just sort of...phase through the universe?

    Oh. They're Necron ships.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:09 No.3669033
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    /tg/ = mixing 40k into everything, especially where it doesn't belong
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:10 No.3669035
    The fact is that we have no idea where the damn thing was or what it was doing before then, so it's perfectly plausible.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:11 No.3669040
    They weren't transported under guard and presumably were simply told to GTFO to Kharak with a handful of civilian ships at their disposal.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:13 No.3669054
    I think the textures and design on some of the new ships, especially the black rose, stand out a bit too much compared to the other ships. It just looks un-Homeworldly. Also, they turned the later versions into too much of "Armchair admiral in space: the simulator" by trying to enforce real life naval doctrine into space combat. Earlier versions are still good though.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:13 No.3669056
    fuck you, i shouldnt have lol'd.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:13 No.3669058
    If the war was over the ownership of the magic warp core, it would be stupid to let the defeated enemy load their own ship freighters.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:15 No.3669063
    I generally found v6-7 to be the best. They should have stopped REINVENTING THE GAME LOL and just started encouraging more people to do homebrewed ship concepts like the Deliverance II and that Halberd thing that never went anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:15 No.3669065

    Nigga you can break all the rules when it sounds better.

    See: Terry Prachett/Hip Hop artists.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:16 No.3669067
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    Source? I've always wanted to watch an eldar animu. Aside from Seikai no Senki
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:17 No.3669075
    Presumably destroyed + plothole lol.

    Anyone here enjoy the Battlestar galactica mod?
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    This is now an eldar thread.
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:20 No.3669098
    A simple fix would have been to say it was put into a warship or something during the last days of the war and jumped as far as possible. Just to be complete dicks in denying the enemy the prize.
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:20 No.3669100
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    Why the shit is my Homeworld folder full of lesbianism?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:20 No.3669101
    fucking reinstalling
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:22 No.3669113
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:23 No.3669119
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    Enjoy your elfdar
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:23 No.3669123
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:24 No.3669124
    Dammit, I really want to play Homeworld now. Never heard of it until a couple years ago.
    I wonder if there's a way to get the first one.
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:25 No.3669128
    Yeah I played it. Looked pretty, but gameplay wasn't more than mass raptors attack cylon interceptors and have battlestar shoot cylon capitals.

    Though speaking of mods, I'm looking forward for the EVE mod for HW2, presuming it's ever gonna get released. They've modded in most of the Gallente and Caldari ships, but apparantly development is on hiatus and they can't release the mod until it's 100% done (by orders from CCP).
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:25 No.3669131

    Who is this character in homeworld !!

    Tips for /tg/ being a work safe board :-)
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    You get the best experience from the first homeworld. Once you beat that go play O.R.B. Then Homeworld Cataclysm. Torrents exist, learn to use them.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:25 No.3669133
    Because Lesbians are awesome
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    O rly?



    The story was shit, it wasn't the Vaygr, it was that progenitor wankery that ruined it. I'm all for ancient tech from forgotten races...but they went overboard. I can still hear 'BRING SAJUUK TO BEAR' being fanatically SHRIEKED in my ear. And they killed the Bentusi, those fucks! Bah.

    PDS is awesome though. Since I hear THQ has acquired the rights to the HW license I just hope Relic will do number 3 better.
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:28 No.3669152
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    Actually, the parallels between the wacky shenanigans in Blue Drop and the HW2 story are creepy.
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:29 No.3669160
    Homeworld Fleet gets owned by pop cap.

    Also, no shields, Holy Imperium of Man has void shields. Homeworld tech is obviously superior in other regards, as they understand what the hell they are doing with it, but if they run into a proper battlefleet they are proper fucked.

    As far as production times go, yes, they can almost certainly build faster than the Imperium can, but not in 'video game time'. If they are not crushed outright in a decisive fleet action they lose by attrition anyway.

    Or they just become a pirate nuisance until a SM chapter launches a crusade against them for plundering the worlds under their ward.

    Oh, and Terra has ungoldy defenenses, not to mention Luna which is more or less a giant weapons platform.

    Teleporting teriminator squads on board the mothership also yields doom.
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    My university shuts down internet connections when they detect p2p activity.
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    Greater Demon of Khorne
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:31 No.3669176
    I liked that they don't have shields. They don't NEED fucking shields. Shields are for pussies who can't build proper fucking ships. Go re-read the chapter in the original manual that explains how they designed the ship hulls.

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    Derp. We all know that gamesworkshop wanted to create a plot that can never change. Creating something/someplace that cannot be destroyed is just one way they do that.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:31 No.3669178
    What about the Bentusi? Where would they fit in all this?
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    The Tau.
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:35 No.3669200
    More like The Culture. Or on their way there, at the very least.

    Think about it. Every single ship is a Mothership. Except theirs have fucking useful weapons for once and can farjump all over the place.
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:36 No.3669210
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:36 No.3669215


    I fucking raged.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:36 No.3669216
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    Taldeer >:3
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:37 No.3669223
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:38 No.3669231
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:39 No.3669234
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:39 No.3669235
    What's with the animu spam?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:39 No.3669238
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:40 No.3669243
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:41 No.3669247
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:41 No.3669248
    Majik phazors destroya ll matter instantly, no armor cn wihtsand them. Also, because ironclads pummeling each other with mass drivers from 100,000 kilometers away in a deadly game of vector prediction (while stealthy carriers sneak in to unleash waves of fighters armed with fusion torpedos) is much less awsum than slim glowing saucers dogfighting and shooting each other with pretty lights.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:41 No.3669250
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    i dunno lol
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:41 No.3669252
    Some idiot decided that flooding Star Ocean (?) images would be a good idea apparently. Because they totally have absolutely nothing to do with Homeworld or /tg/
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:42 No.3669254
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:43 No.3669266
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    Wrong wrong and wronger.

    Shields are EASY MODE. Missiles, particle beams and layers of fucking armor.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:45 No.3669274
    Be fair, the Homeworld warp drive is just as stupid. If they really wanted to stop the Mothership, all they'd need to do is sprinkle a fuckload of shrapnel clouds in it's path; it goes through them at near light speed and immolates instantly. Boom, no more Kushani.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:45 No.3669277
    Not Star Ocean.
    It's Crest of the Stars.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:46 No.3669279

    No, faggot.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:47 No.3669285
    I thought the whole point of the hyperdrive was that it puts something "out of phase" with the rest of the universe, hence why you can travel insane distances in minutes. Otherwise, they'd be stopped by every tiny little bit of rock, dust or molecular hydrogen along the flightpath.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:48 No.3669287
    Yeah well, its space. Its called space because most of it is empty.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:48 No.3669288
    >Teleporting teriminator squads on board the mothership also yields doom.

    Kushan marines have power armor and are pretty fucking skilled at taking ships themselves.
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    Whatever. Still not even slightly related to the topic at hand.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:48 No.3669291
    Bentusi ships also have really strong hull and if you encounter their space fighters... God help you.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:49 No.3669294
    You really have no idea.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:53 No.3669310
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:55 No.3669316

    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:56 No.3669325
    Now I know the answer
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:58 No.3669334
    Oh. Yeah, I remember that mission. You're supposed to lose a capital ship, typically a destroyer. Luckly the ore collector controller whatever it's called is considered to be a capital ship.

    I sometimes feel bad about sacrificing the crew of that ship.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:58 No.3669335
    Wait which mission?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)09:59 No.3669340
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    Greetings. We have come to trade.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:01 No.3669349
    Super Acolytes fuck yeah.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:02 No.3669360
    Homeworld:Cataclysm. When the bentusi are being jerks and using this huge hyperspace gate to leave the galaxy instead of helping out.

    Player blows up the gate, bentusi start attacking the player, up till the player loses a capital class ship.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:04 No.3669364
    This game was better than homeworld one in my opinion.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:04 No.3669366
    The bit with the tactical officer !!RAGING!! at the Bentusi made that mission
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:08 No.3669395
    I found Cataclysm to be a bit...well...dumb. They took all of the technology and fucked it up in completely bizarre ways.

    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:10 No.3669402
    Siege cannon owns. Stand still, let me show you.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:10 No.3669404
    I'm gay for him. And when he was talking about the beast how they are nanomachines combined witch organics... I could feel the Fear...
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:11 No.3669412
    It was an utterly retarded concept, though. Sounds like something out of a Gundam show.

    The whole game just felt like a bad fanfic. Which is pretty much what it was.
    >> Eldrad, Actually The G Man !!srlFJqQzH9+ 02/10/09(Tue)10:13 No.3669425

    Crest of the Stars, actually.


    You Rang?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:13 No.3669427
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    How the heck has there not been a promotions.jpg in this thread yet? You disappoint me, /tg/.

    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:14 No.3669432
    You're immune to sarcasm, aren't you?
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    Might as well proceed......
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:17 No.3669452
    It's difficult to recognise sarcasm over the internet. Unless you type in ALL CAPS and MAKE IT INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS


    Actually most of that had nothing to do with anything but whatever.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:17 No.3669453
    Is she ejaculating into a microphone?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:17 No.3669455
    What if the Mothership encounters Tau? Will it be like with the Kadeshi (Join or Die)or will Tau help them somehow?
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:18 No.3669462
    The siege cannon was designed to be a weapon used against stationary defense platforms and planets.

    Kith Somtaaw was hardcore enough to bolt it to a platform half the size usually considered for such a weapon and use it against moving targets.

    Cataclysm owns, Kith Somtaaw owns
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:21 No.3669486
    Tau insist they join the Greater Good.
    Kushan see that these aliens have similar technologies and whatnot and school the fuck out of them on just how mass drivers and MISSILE ORGIES are supposed to work.

    Imagine Tau ships with hyperdrives that don't fuck about with Warp. Or DECENT FUCKING ARMOUR.
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    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:24 No.3669501

    Kushan have their own weird space religion, thanks.


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    My cURL borked. Time to throw in the towel.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:26 No.3669510
    Oh God I fucking came
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:33 No.3669568
    I actually do believe they would decimate any Tau they encounter and then pillage the shit out of anything that's left in roughly one piece.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:35 No.3669585
    True. For 'good guys' the Kushan are damned good at pillaging.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:36 No.3669589
    Only if Tau attack first. Kushani are generally peacefull people. They would try reasoning with the Tau to help them or leave them fucking alone. Like with Kadeshi.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:39 No.3669613
    Any homeworld sequal had a lot to live up to. It had so many WAH?!!! moments...

    The Mothership launch sequence.
    "Kharak is burning" and the music.
    Interrorgating the enemy pilot "He did not survive interrorgation"
    The last or second last mission that opens with fleet intelligence informing you "Fleet Command is gone, emergency med techs are attempting to revive her".
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:41 No.3669626
    Yes, but Tau are insufferable little noseless dicks, so that won't work. Rapeage and pillage is the only way.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:43 No.3669642

    >Kharak is burning

    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:43 No.3669644
    >Interrorgating the enemy pilot "He did not survive interrorgation"
    FINALLY someone who also noticed this.

    I would also add the moment when Bentusi are telling us about the Exile ("...imperfect technology..." ...and ship turns into space dust)
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:43 No.3669646
    They are not as much peaceful as... reasonable.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:43 No.3669647
    The only things humans understand, so...
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:45 No.3669658
    They're willing to be friendly, but if you want they're also very fucking willing to be terminally unfriendly.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:46 No.3669659
    So they won't let poor Kushani go free? They insist on fighting?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:46 No.3669661
    I think you're forgetting that Imperial battleships RAM people.

    Any battlefleet would wipe their ass with the Kushans.


    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:47 No.3669663

    >FINALLY someone who also noticed this.

    Please, who did not? (it kicked ass)

    Anyway, on the Tau question it all comes down to this:

    Are they dumb fucks enough to try and push their filthy communism on the Kushans?

    If so, proceed to any available fallout bunker cause shit be getting real.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:48 No.3669674
    dude, tau space fleet is pretty win.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:48 No.3669676
    Kushan fleet used TACTICS

    Its super effective!

    Imperium used FAITH

    It's not very effective.
    Imperium is confused
    Imperium hurt itself in it's confusion.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:51 No.3669689
    Kushan fleet uses hit and run tactics

    it's moderately effective

    Imperium of Man sends a 2 SM chapter crusade against the Kushans

    it's Super Effective!

    Kushans are defeated and killed to the last man.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:51 No.3669691
    >Please, who did not? (it kicked ass)
    Believe me, there are people like this.
    >Are they dumb fucks enough to try and push their filthy communism on the Kushans?
    >If so, proceed to any available fallout bunker cause shit be getting real.
    You say Kushani will get their asses kicked because Tau like Nuclear Missile Spam or Tau'll get assraped by Kushani Ion Frigates hyperspacing all over the place?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:52 No.3669698
    I liked how circumstances pretty much the Kushan a people who have been peaceful and united in a single effort for the last 100 or so years to become quite ruthless. After all they were fighting for survival of their entire race and found out the galaxy isn't friendly happy place they hoped.

    That and implying when they were in charge they were similar to the Taiidani empire. After all wasn't them using the atmospheric deprivation device in the earlier war the reason for such a harsh punishment (the exile) of their entire race.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:54 No.3669709
    basically, everyone becomes space nazis.

    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:55 No.3669715

    It was, the Emperor found the use of it on Karak to be ironic.

    Dohohoho, how ironic it was....
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:55 No.3669717
    Kushan Fleet upon seeing superior enemy Hyperspaces to safety. Really, hunting Kushani fleet would require well coordinated action on a galactic scale. Imperium doesn't have any means of intercepting them. They only have superior numbers.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:56 No.3669721

    Oh no, not the space marines.

    How can our space ships prevail against space marines?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:59 No.3669732

    Standard Imperial Admiral, return!

    Go, Lord Admiral Ravensburg!

    Lord Admiral Ravensburg used Hero of the Gothic War! It's super-effective!
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)10:59 No.3669737
    I think he meant the second... Kushani are like a nest of starship sized bees. Fuck with them and... OH MY GOD BEEEEEEEEEES!

    Actually the only thing that could stop them from wrecking the IoM is sufficiently strong resistance at the very start of their invasion, otherwise they will assimilate all technology, improve it and use their new bigger ships to make more ships they will then use to wreck even bigger ships and assimilate that.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:01 No.3669746
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    Imperium tech... better than Kushan tech.
    >> Eldrad, Actually The G Man !!srlFJqQzH9+ 02/10/09(Tue)11:03 No.3669757


    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:04 No.3669763
    So, you made me want to play Homeworld.
    Do I start from the first or the sequel?
    Also, how does it compare to something like Sins of a Solar Empire?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:04 No.3669770









    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:05 No.3669774
    History repeats. The downtrodden rise up and eventually become the tyrants.

    Then Homeworld 2 fucked it all over with "Spiffy new hyperspace network, everybody wins and is happy."
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:07 No.3669782
    Not until Kushani scientist gets their hands on it. You know, Kushani scientist know how shit works, contrary to the adeptus mechanicus. They even have something like standard template construct on their mothership.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:07 No.3669783
    oh dear lord
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:08 No.3669791

    First, for the love of GOD. And it doesn't really, they're two completely different games.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:09 No.3669798
    STC vs The Emprah! What does Mechanicus choose?
    >> Ouchies 02/10/09(Tue)11:10 No.3669804
    Truth. I raged with the officer when the Bentusi decided to be dicks.

    +One of the best gaming moments ever, IMHO+
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:10 No.3669806

    STC, hands down.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:12 No.3669815
    I didn't like playing Cataclysm so much, the story was good and being able to issue orders from the overall map was great, but so many ships were shit making it painful to play.

    Heavy fighters that don't pack as much punch as a bomber because they have to dock and reaload after every salvo. Not to mention getting ripped to bits by actual fighters that are faster & more maneuverable.

    Combine 2 crappy fighters to make a crappy corvette with the same problems.

    Holographic kamikaze fighters that you never used until that one mission where you just spammed them untill the satellite thingy blew up.

    They'll probably botch HW3 in some way too.

    But I'll still play the shit out of it.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:12 No.3669818
    Homeworld is ass-wrenchingly hard. The Gardens of Kadesh especially I found were a complete bitch. It's from the X-Com school of difficulty, i.e. JESUS CHRIST DO EVERYTHING RIGHT OR YOU DOOM US ALL OH GOD.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:14 No.3669834
    I see what you did there.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:15 No.3669838
    So, Kushani have defeated Imperial fleet near Terra and conquered MArs with the help of Adeptus Mechanicus (Karan as a Omnisiah?). They are now starting mass production of fleet, titans, and what have you there preparing to take over Terra and counter inevetable counterattack from the Imperial Fleet.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:15 No.3669839
    That's what made the game worthwhile... well... in addition to everything else.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:17 No.3669850
    I /NEVER/ used the suicide holofighters except for spying. I killed the big satelite/deathstar and it's two protection orbs with those robot aliens wanabees that latch onto enemy ships and slowly eat them.

    I refuse to waste perfectly good pilots in suicide attacks.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:19 No.3669859
    AdMech would see their technology as heretical. WH40k just rolls like that...
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:21 No.3669870
    Wait, maybe that's what the Nids are running from?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:22 No.3669881
    I captured those multi-beam frigates. All of them. They were pretty. I even captured the fuel tanker catterpillars that refuled the fighters. Then I captured a good dozen of the fighters when they ran out of fuel. (useless, they have about 45 to 60 seconds worth of fuel) The huge motherships aren't capturable, I was sad.

    I captured over 120 of those ion beam frigates in that mission to destroy the interdictor. Ever see 120 ion frigates all firing at once? The asteroid lasted only a few seconds. The endgame was a breeze since I just followed the huge ion frigate wall.

    I had about 15 heavy cruisers too. All were captured from the enemy.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:25 No.3669900
    That was the other thing Cataclysm added, more radio chatter. Especially when ships were destroyed, hearing the scout calling out about damage then being cut off by static always made me feel a little guilty about using them as meat shields for other ships.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:25 No.3669901
    I did the same. God, Ion frigate spam was awesome, But you know, the moreships you have the more enemy ships will come after you.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:27 No.3669909
    Kushani - lootier dan da orks.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:27 No.3669910
    That's the thing about Homeworld, you start playing, don't know what you're doing, so you're gimped for the rest of the game, until there comes a point where you just can't win.

    Then you restart, capture the 6 (i think) Ion Frigates in that early mission instead of destroying them and everything is easy mode.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:34 No.3669952
    Scrap any you don't really want for salavage, start the next mission with a smaller fleet and heaps of resources. Then build like crazy.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:39 No.3669991
    Dude, you are leading the rast remnants of a once great race, resources are scarce, you know that the enemy has fleet much more biger and advanced than yours, and you are on the mission to retake a whole planet from them. I don't know if there is possibly anything more obviously saying "YOU ARE UNDERPOWERED CAPTURE SOME FUCKING SHIPS FROM THE ENEMY"
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:42 No.3670010
    Nope, you can't build more ships than the limit cap. You can only capture to have more ships. And I like lots of ships =D
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:44 No.3670018
    So make the ones you keep good ones. Scrap the rest for parts and the crew for pet food.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:44 No.3670019
    the thing i most hated about homeworld 2 was, it was basically the same exact story as the first one.

    what about the dust wars? couldnt it have been about that instead?

    stupid faggots.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:46 No.3670033
    It had potential, long lost cousins turning up wanting their share. After all they had just as much right to Higara as the Khushan.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:49 No.3670056
    New thread
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)11:50 No.3670067


    here, how many of you faggots have seen or heard of this?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)12:19 No.3670287
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    Awesome thread, generally agree with the reasoning; Kushans run circles around the IM fleet, SM and boarding are a serious threat-preferably avoid (see Diasporex), no taking Terra... Thats simply not happening.

    Now what is more interesting is how other races will react to AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WAY OF FTL TRAVEL. Tau will surely go DO WANT, IM will go Not Sure if WANT, Necrons? Eldar? Surviving Old Ones?
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)12:33 No.3670378


    i had a hearty laugh.
    >> Anonymous 02/10/09(Tue)12:58 No.3670543

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