Welcome to the XLIX installment of "Disney Villains Victorious."Disney Villains Victorious is a new /tg/ homebrew project based on the idea of a world, not entirely unlike our own, in which all the villains from all the Disney animated feature films were not defeated at the ends of their movies but were instead victorious, completing their goals in part or in whole.It is a world in which Ursula rules the seas, defied only by the uncatchable Pirate Lords, the cutthroat merchants of the East India Trading Company and the might of Atlantis and its magitech-toting mercenaries. It is a world where the grasslands and jungles and forests are prowled not only by fearsome primal beasts like Shere Kahn and Scar but also by the ruthless, tireless hunters that stalk them. It is a world where Europe has been divvied up between evil sorcerous monarchs like Maleficent, the Horned King, Grimhilde and Jafar, mad, inquisitorial clergymen like Frollo, and Dark Gods like Hades and Chernobog.It is not, however, a world completely devoid of courage, heroism or hope. Around the world, the PCs' characters and their allies plot and plan, fight and strive and win their own victories against the villains that would rule them. The time to fight and to be free is now.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorioushttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious
King/Land/Rule: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_K/L/RsAdventurer's Almanac: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kI-I-ClcaZc4YPFQzmExOxfqzHAsLOkqLnKufm9Ty5c/edit?pli=1Setting Traits: http://pastebin.com/8RRbwMQTBeast Species:http://pastebin.com/iPGVax1ATRAITS: http://pastebin.com/TJXncd7APOWERS:http://pastebin.com/pQDDqisUFluff Catalogue: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qj_IIuF_rqh_F2L-SeYn-dBiwDTtwWFpnbcXyfcgeE8/editSong Catalogue: (google doc) 1oQniqbLaTCF7V19fnXP0_zUW7GFr3ESziGM6U5mEcC0/editRumour Mill: (google doc) 17CzFrAblibwD__7sEYorqXSz4ILYVp1O4tcQ-mGyYiI/edit?usp=sharingVillain Immortality: http://pastebin.com/kA1wsUzVNational Anthems: http://pastebin.com/Gd9rETxbChimera Races: http://pastebin.com/B8SkUwWB (Out of date, needs to be updated)First Playtest: http://pastebin.com/Vy1E0sHBSecond playtest:http://pastebin.com/qE1kW0YYThird playtest: http://pastebin.com/sWj8Y87vFourth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/SHieN5zLFifth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/TGctR8VASixth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/8wUw2LegGoogle doc for character creation:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m8XSm73Ea4ECdDdP9V4IVJCEBji6HPw43LRPyUCDmx4/edit?usp=sharingPlaytests are hosted here; https://app.roll20.net/join/601097/mEiDCAMagic IRC is hosted on Mibbit, network is AsyloIRC, room is #DVVmagicExperimental new rules for Yzmic Chimeras http://pastebin.com/p2QaTaiB
Name: Pontifex Immortalis Frollo of the Grand ArchdioceseRole: Charming GuyClass: DemagogueCountry of Origin: FranceSize: MediumSpecies: Human (or at least formerly human)---Attributes---Robustness: 10/16Agility: 10/16Intelligence: 14/16Sensibility: 10/16Charm: 16/16Will: 4/4Strikes: 8+3X---Skills--- Melee: 6 (12)Ranged: 8 (12)Prevent Harm: 10 (14)Endure: 10Deceit: 10Persuasion: 10Intimidate: 8 (10)Academics: 6Occult: 12Insight: 10Music: 6
>>36637019---Equipment---Holy Fire: All ranged attacks are doused in it, and he can pour it onto the field. Burning and +3 if resisted with RobustnessPapal Staff: +6 Melee, and due to the focused belief of the Church held within it, it can be used to regain a will point if its power is drawn on for 3 actions.Ornate Crossbow: +4 RangedRobes of the Pontifex: +2 to Persuade Catholics, +2 Intimidate, +4 Prevent Harm, and he is defended from the effects of Holy Fire---Traits---Devout: +10 to resist Persuade and Deceit unless the person in question knows his specific doubts. To do this, they need to have obtained them from him, via something like hearing him in confessional or reading his diary (or hearing his shame-singing)Master of an Army: Can call in any Villains that haven’t been defeatedKING: This unit is a KING, with all the benefits that entails.Echo Chamber: Frollo gets a bonus against social attacks based on how many Villains or Inner Circle members are nearby. +5 per Villain, +2 per Inner CircleUnwavering Will: 1 Extra Will Point.
>>36637040---Powers---Burning Judgement: For one will point, Frollo can heat up all magic items held or worn by the players. This effect lasts for 2 turns, and forces all players wearing or holding magic items to make a TN 30 Endure check to hold onto their items. If they fail, they must either drop the item in question, losing all bonuses associated with it until they take an action to pick it up, or take 1 physical strike. Armor cannot be dropped, although you could take it off with an action.Call to Arms: Can call 5d6 Mooks at the cost of 1 Will PointHellfire: For a Will Point, Frollo can start huge fires in his general vicinity. The heat and smoke from these fires causes everyone to make a TN 30 Endure roll when it is there turn, and if they fail, they get to choose between taking a physical Strike or losing two actions to try to recover from the smokeDark Fire: For a single Will point, Frollo can shape fire into a manifestation of his own will. These shapes count as having 16 Agility and 16 Melee, he summons 1 per Will point spent, and they cannot be harmed. Instead, they dissipate after 2 turns. They get 2 attacks per turn.
>>36637040He's an undead abomination now right? So he should probably get the Undead trait.
>>36637099Oh, I wasn't clear on that. Where did that even come from? It wasn't really in the movie.
>>36637120I don't know.We apparently made him an undead insane abomination from all the other evil and "heretical" nations around him.
>>36637099Also, the normal Undead trait is meant for the mindless undead, zombies and the like, who are unable to be reasoned with or persuaded because they lack the capacity for that kind of thought, so a lich would probably need a different trait, because liches have a much closer facsimile of life than zombies. Liches don't really work with the Undead trait as it stands, but if someone can make a better one, that's fine with me. Mine is just based off of watching the movie a week or two ago.
Someone's started running scripts to get our sup/tg/ threads downvoted.10+ votes on the first thread just vanished.Jesus christ, calm your autism wizardmen.
>>36637227I'm just hoping we get the Editor's Choice for the first thread.
>>36637227Nevermind, they just came back.Weird.
Hey guys, Atlantean writefag checking in again. Next bit of the story's done--took a bit longer because exposition ran away on me--that and finals. You guys interested?
>>36637334literally why do you even askwe always are
>>36637227No, this isn't the work of wizardsThis the work ofKEYBRADE WIELDING WIZARDS
Oh, guys, is Frollo ready for the wiki?
>>36637379Effective Prevent Harm 24 is a bit low. Endure 20 is very low. Increasing TN when resisting Holy Fire with a specific stat is very weird and I personally don't like it, but I'm not the one writing it. Probably want to change Robes of the Pontifex to just +2 Persuade, +2 Intimidate, +4 Prevent Harm, No Holy Fire damage, etc. +6 on Papal staff is absolutely absurd but he's a King, so.... He should honestly regain a will point once every two rounds regaredless of what he's doing rather than requiring him to stand still and waste ~16 actions to get one back. Change Call To Arms to 3x, where X is the number of players. You'll have the same average result and won't be as spiky. His attack methods are a bit weak at +22 or +26 each.Hellfire is party-crippling. Seriously. Make an incredibly tough Endurance roll or take a strike automatically every turn (and everyone has max, six strikes) or LOSE THEIR ENTIRE TURN. Jesus!Honestly, you could take him down in ~4 rounds with an Intimidate-based party member, which would be hilarious but stupid. Needs a bit of tweaking.
>>36637349It never hurts to see if people are still holding interest in your work.Now, onward!--The squad gingerly crossed the clearing into the statue garden, breaking off into smaller groups as they saw what perked their interest. Heroes and messengers were gathered into this solemn place, bodies posed in their final moments. Knights, seated on horseback or caught in mid-swing, stood next to Western gunslingers, caught aiming at a target that had long since retreated back to her icy lair. Messengers from countless kingdoms, tears rolling down their cheeks, stood side by side with wild beasts, fangs bared. Fae creatures were caught in mid-flight, some running and others aiming crude recurve bows or casting out their hand as if producing magics unknown.Anna, unperturbed by the groups’ caution, continued speaking. “I know! You guys are too shocked to say anything!” She threw her arms wide. “So—this is where Elsa dumps the people that come to see her. N-not to say that this is gonna happen to you; to be completely honest, most of these guys were heroes dumb enough to come here in small groups or on their own in an attempt to make a name for themselves. Others just seemed to be messengers asking about some of the dignitaries that may not have made it back when the Big Winter hit.”
>>36637554“The arrangement of these statues looks a little too precise to have simply been ‘dumped’,” Zoe said, placing air quotes on the last word.“You can thank me for arranging the statues after they’ve been sent here.” Anna grinned. “I can tell you—these guys? Great company—absolutely stellar listeners. Not much to say for themselves, though.” Anna chuckled.“And you’ve been collecting these guys for /how/ long, Anna?” Womack asked.“Not sure—years, maybe? Heck, I couldn’t even tell you what month it is right now, let alone the day.” The ice statue shrugged.Kavita came across a cluster of armored figures set against the backdrop of the waterfall. Their armor, in some places dented, scratched, or missing entirely, looked to be a cross between Medieval plate armor and priestly robes, both intricately patterned with crosses. Two were on the ground—one was aiming what looked to be a flamethrower compacted into a pistol while the other appeared to be fading fast from an ice spike jutting from her breastplate. Five more figures were standing. One, his helm marked with a terrible gash wrapping around the side as though ripped through with claws, held in each of his hands a mace and sword.
>>36637584Two others held different types of flamethrower, one, his head turned to the side as if she were yelling to his companions, was dual-wielding the flame pistols Kavita had seen previously and the other bracing while with both hands brandishing a larger flamethrower like it was a chainsaw. Another, one eye covered in what used to be cloth, appeared to be caught right before leaping, about to bring his spear down on some unfortunate target. The final member of the group seemed to tower over the rest. He held in his right a closed book, the sigil burned onto the cover unreadable; in his left he held a staff, the Roman cross at the top. His shaven head was turned skyward, his lips parted as thought caught in mid-prayer. Kavita squatted in front of the wounded woman, her face a mixture of pain and fear. The Indian woman shook her head and sighed, squeezing her eyes shut. Absentmindedly she reached out to stroke a tear running off the woman’s cheek, but caught herself before her gloved hand touched the ice.“I knew him,” called a voice from behind her. Kavita turned to see her squadleader standing behind her. “I knew the Inquisitor standing at the back.”Kavita stood up. “You did?”
>>36637613“Inquisitor Bartholomew.” Thach paced around the cluster of men and women as if they were sculptures in a gallery. “The Church knew him as ‘Bartholomew of Pamplona’. He was a good man—hard, but good.” The Canadian woman stopped to inspect the flame pistols being held in one of the Inquisitor’s retinue. “I’d had a couple run-ins with the Inquisitor and his entourage in the past—most recent was maybe seven months before this job started. I was in New Orleans, pulling security with Bernadette, Zoe, and Jun for an investigative team looking into several diverted supply shipments for the Empire’s colonies in the Caribbean. As it just so happened, the good Inquisitor was in town as well, albeit for a different issue that was related to ours—he never brought it up, though.” She leaned in close to inspect the engraving running along one of the Inquisitor’s retinue’s pauldrons. “I remember it was around Mardi Gras because the city was decked out and ready to sin, and because Bernadette had suggested that, had we some time, we visit her family down in Cajun country. Anyway—Inquisitor Bartholomew had thought it pragmatic that, since we were after the same group of people, we join forces to look for our common enemy.”Kavita crossed her arms. “Was it your call to make that decision to work together or the Investigation Team?”
>>36637639“And the cause of the redirected shipments?”“Pirates.” Thach leaned back. “Two days after Agent Lewis caught wind of the New Orleans Police Department’s investigation did Agent Cotton manage to nab one of the Shadow Man’s informants that got pinched by the local cops. It took a little bit of finagling on our part, but eventually he squealed after he was...put to the torch.” Thach licked her teeth, directing her gaze toward the heavy flamethrower held by one of the Inquisitor’s henchmen. “The informant pointed us in the direction of the bayou, to an old Indian fort. When we arrived, we found out our pirate gang was actually a group of Atlantean deserters, running a group of midget submarines in and out of the shallow waterways. More important at that moment, we also found out that our gang wasn’t present, so it was my decision to set up an ambush and catch the entire group unaware, wipe them out wholesale.”“And how did that plan work out?” Kavita said.“Magnificently.” Thach smiled. “Had our forces on both sides of the main road heading into camp, remote mines set to detonate with pressure sensors, it was a beautiful, textbook ambush. To make a short story out of a shorter firefight, we killed almost all of the deserters, took one sorely wounded Atlantean pirate into custody, and recovered several thousand dollars in Atlantean weapons and assorted cargo. We were in and out of the swamps in three hours, with the Shadow Man none the wiser.”
>>36637656“What about the Inquisitor?”“He and his entourage recovered some bundled up artifacts from the interiors of the midget submarines before torching them.” Thach started to look at the purity seals on the spear caught in mid-flutter. “When we got back into the city proper, we all parted ways—the Investigative Team with their prisoners back to Atlantis to provide proper ‘questioning’, Inquisitor Bartholomew and his retinue back to Toledo, and me and Jun back into the bayou, being led by our intrepid Acadian to celebrate ‘a real backwoods Mardi Gras’, as she so proudly put it.” “Oaken said that the last people to come pass his way were a group that said they were ‘from the Church’.” Kavita said.“It’s a shame.” Allyson flexed her wrist.. “I would have liked to have met the Inquisitor again on better terms.”The treeline the squad had just exited shuddered. The snap of branches gave way to the cracking of trunks. The treetops themselves shuffled as a gigantic mass bustled forward, its footsteps uncharacteristically soft. “What the hell was that?” Kavita whispered. “Bear?”“That ain’t no bear.” Ezekiel raised his rifle. “Bears don’t move trees when they walk.”
>>36637687The snap of tree trunks continued its slow advance to the treeline. The squad fanned out among the statues, trying to use the standing corpses as best they could for makeshift cover. The source of the commotion didn’t so much run file between the trees so much as it exploded into the clearing. Anna shrunk at the sight of the monster. “Oh no,” she breathed.It was tall—at least twenty feet. Rods of solid ice connected oversized hands to its hulking frame. Stubby legs protruded from its rotund body. Ice spikes sheathed its back like porcupine quills, still more lined its maw. It turned its frame toward the squad, sweeping the statue garden with empty eye sockets.Anna breathed once, twice. Then, she stood up, put on the bravest face she could, and stepped toward the snow golem. “Heeeeeeeey, buddy~!” She managed a small wave. “Didn’t expect to see you in the garden, how’ve you been? Nothin’ to see here, nosiree! Just little old me. Noone else. At all.”The golem regarded her with a blank stare. It snorted, delicately wrapping icy talons around her body. “Wha-hey!” Anna shouted. “Put me down!”The golem shuffled over to a snowdrift and, without a word, dropped the ice princess straight into the soft powder, engulfing her entirely. “There’s noone else here, you dumb—!”
>>36637475The idea of the Holy Fire thing is that it's not any harder to dodge, but you can't stand through it easily. >waste ~16 actions to get one backWhat? It was 3. How many actions do Kings get per turn? I think it's 4, but I could be wrong. The idea was to let him gain a will point in one turn and then use it that same turn with his last remaining action.Hellfire was supposed to be a one-turn thing. Sorry, that was badly worded, I'll reword it.I'm buffing his attacks now. He is kind of a jack of all trades, master of none as of now, and he needs a clearer attack option.Also, Echo Chamber makes it so he is very sure of himself right up until he's alone, and I'm giving him a flock of 12 sycophants that effectively must be killed before hurting him socially
Name: Pontifex Immortalis Frollo of the Grand ArchdioceseRole: Charming GuyClass: DemagogueCountry of Origin: FranceSize: MediumSpecies: Human (or at least formerly human)---Attributes---Robustness: 12/16Agility: 12/16Intelligence: 14/16Sensibility: 10/16Charm: 18/18Will: 5/5Strikes: 8+3X---Skills--- Melee: 10 (16)Ranged: 8 (12)Prevent Harm: 10 (14)Endure: 14Deceit: 10Persuasion: 10Intimidate: 10 (12)Academics: 6Occult: 12Insight: 10Music: 6 ---Equipment---Holy Fire: All ranged attacks are doused in it, and he can pour it onto the field. Burning and +3 if resisted with RobustnessPapal Staff: +6 Melee, due to the focused faith of the Church held within it, and it can be used to regain a will point if its power is drawn on for 3 actions.Ornate Crossbow: +4 RangedRobes of the Pontifex: +2 Persuade, +2 Intimidate, +4 Prevent Harm, Defense against Holy Fire
>>36637716“Now!” Thach stood up, bringing her carbine to her shoulder.A plethora of blue-purple streaks streamed from the statue garden, impacting hard against the snow golem. Each hit blew chunks of snow and ice off the creature as it shrieked in pain. It brought a massive hand in front of itself to provide a futile shield. Pan, after spooling up the energy from his wand, brought a blue-white flash to bear on the golem’s arm, severing it completely.“Focus fire!” Thach barked inbetween shots. “Bring it down!”The creature, somehow emboldened by the withering assault, turned its furious shuffle into a slow charge. Zoe phased out the rest of combat, bracing herself against a rearing horse as she took aim at one of the golem’s knees. Time slowed. She held her breath.Now.The blue streak flew true, blowing apart the beast’s leg. The howl the beast uttered was almost as loud as the crash it made as it impacted the snow. Still determined, it crawled forward with its one good arm. The squad refused to move from their positions as they poured on the fire. Womack pulled off a grenade from his belt and pulled the pin. “Frag out!” He chucked the grenade straight at the golem’s head, sticking it firmly in one of its empty eye sockets. The beast gave out one last scream before its head exploded in a haze of blue, the rest of its body collapsing into a pile of snow and ice.
>>36637735---Traits---Devout: +10 to resist social attacks unless the person in question knows his specific doubts. To do this, they need to have obtained them from him, via something like hearing him in confessional or reading his diary (or hearing his shame-singing)Master of an Army: Can call in any Villains that haven’t been defeatedKING: This unit is a KING, with all the benefits that entails.Echo Chamber: Frollo gets a bonus against social attacks based on how many Villains, Sycophants, or Inner Circle members are nearby. +5 per Villain, +2 per Inner Circle or sycophantUnwavering Will: 2 Extra Will PointsSycophants: He is followed constantly by an entourage of 12 sycophant Lackeys---Powers---Burning Judgement: For one will point, Frollo can heat up all magic items held or worn by the players to the point of scalding flesh. This effect lasts for 2 turns, and forces all players wearing or holding magic items to make a TN 30 Endure check to hold onto their items. If they fail, they must either drop the item in question, losing all bonuses associated with it until they take an action to pick it up, or take 1 physical strike. Armor cannot be dropped, although you could take it off with an action.Call to Arms: Can call 3X Mooks at the cost of 1 Will PointHellfire: For a Will Point, Frollo can start huge fires in his general vicinity. The heat and smoke from these fires causes everyone to make a TN 30 Endure roll when it is there turn, and if they fail, they get to choose between taking a physical Strike or losing two actions to try to recover from the smoke. The players can all adjust to this after a single turn, and are only affected by it once for every time Frollo uses it.Dark Fire: For a single Will point, Frollo can shape fire into a manifestation of his own will. These shapes count as having 16 Agility and 18 Melee, he summons 1 per Will point spent, and they cannot be harmed. Instead, they dissipate after 2 turns. They make 2 attacks per turn.
>>36637739The scents of burning wood and ozone filled the air, the remains of the snow-golem silently melting alongside. The squad slowly, cautiously crept out of their positions behind standing corpses. “Anna?” Thach called out. “You okay?”A hand burst from the top of the snowdrift, giving the thumbs up.Distant roars, similar to the ones emitted by the fallen golem, were heard from all around, followed closely by the cracking of pine trunks. “Oh, nuts,” Zeke muttered.“Think we can outrun them?” Catherine asked.“No time,” Thach said. “But I think I know a way we can shift this fight in our favor.” She turned to her favorite explosives expert. “Womack, I want you to mine this garden—statues trees, whatever you think might go boom in a big way.”“On it, boss.” The demolitions expert shuffled off into the statue garden, followed shortly by the medic.“Kavita, you pack any rifle grenades?”“HEAT and Smoke rounds aplenty, Cap.”“I’m gonna need you, Martin, and Pan right there atop the waterfall. This entire ground floor? This’ll be our killzone—anything gets in here, you hit it with enough explosives and lightning that it’s like the fist of Zeus himself is coming down, you hear me?”“Understood.” The Chinese man nodded, nudging both of his compatriots in the direction of the frozen edifice.
>>36637721>The idea of the Holy Fire thing is that it's not any harder to dodge, but you can't stand through it easily. I'm aware that was the intention, but it seems like it's specifically punishing Robust characters for no real reason.>What? It was 3. How many actions do Kings get per turn? I think it's 4, but I could be wrong. The idea was to let him gain a will point in one turn and then use it that same turn with his last remaining action.As it stands, the wording is that he needs to spend 3 turns (or, 12 actions, sorry) to recharge ONE Will point. Tighten the wording a bit and it should be cleared up.>Also, Echo Chamber makes it so he is very sure of himself right up until he's alone, and I'm giving him a flock of 12 sycophants that effectively must be killed before hurting him sociallyOnly protects him from Deceit and Persuasion. Big McLargeHuge can still Intimidate him against Endure +20, which means that the average On-A-Roll T-Rex can strike him three times with a Tyrant's Roar. Non-Carnosaurs'll have to do with just 2 strikes an action.
>>36637774“What about me, Cap?” Catherine asked stepping forward.“Miss Beckett, I’m gonna need you to stick with Anna.” Thach looked toward the snowdrift, seeing it partially destroyed. “Where is she?”“Heere~” She sang. “I’ll be honest—I didn’t think you guys would be able to handle that! I’m just glad that you’re okay, and—”“Anna.” Thach laid a hand on the ice statue’s shoulder, shutting the woman’s tirade up immediately. She could have sworn she had felt the statue shiver. “I’m gonna need you to keep Catherine safe. Bernadette will be with you just in case. Can you do that for me?”Anna looked away, pensive. She bit her lip. “Okay.” She nodded. “Yeah, I can do that.”“Thank you, Anna.” Thach smiled.“Oho, don’t worry about me, Cap!” Anna gave a mock salute. “I’ll keep ‘em under lock and key! Just you wait—it’ll take more than a couple snow golems to pry them away from me!” She grinned, bidding the emmissary and the radiowoman to follow her into the woods.Thach watched the trio leave before turning attention back to her slapdash ambush preparations. Lahey walked up right beside the captain. “You sure this’ll work, Cap?”“I’m not gonna lie, Zeke.” Thach sighed. “I’ve fielded worse against bigger baddies, but this probably takes the cake for making the best of a bad situation.” She turned her head, regarding the medic with a sidelong glance. “Stick with me. This looks like it’ll get dicey really quick.”
>>36637826--And that's it for this installment! Pastebin link will be up shortly, in the meantime, I can entertain comments and critiques. Thanks for reading!
>>36637759He now has a Melee attack for 28, an Intimidate of 30, and can summon flame spirits (based on the vision of Esmeralda he saw in the fire during Hellfire) >>36637783>Only protects him from Deceit and PersuasionActually, Echo Chamber has always protected him against all social attacks. I changed Devout to work on all social attacks too.>As it stands, the wording is that he needs to spend 3 turns (or, 12 actions, sorry) to recharge ONE Will point.Umm... it says 3 actions. I made sure it didn't say turns so it would fit the action economy. I think you may have misread.>I'm aware that was the intention, but it seems like it's specifically punishing Robust characters for no real reason.If I can come up with a justification, I'd gladly change it. Anyway, I was working under the assumption that more Robust characters would be in the front, fighting the melee attack that is better anyways (+28 now to +27, counting Holy Fire on Ranged). Although you are right, because there could be Robust characters who may be primarily Charming or Sensible or Intelligent who just use Robust to defend. I'll have to think of how to justify it being harder to dodge. Splashing holy fire maybe?By the way, using Acrobatics instead of Prevent Harm to dodge: legal or not?
>>36637912Oh, forgot to write that the Flame spirits hit for +34.
>>36637912>Umm... it says 3 actions. I made sure it didn't say turns so it would fit the action economy. I think you may have misread.Seems likely. It's 3:30AM here, so I'm a bit rusty.>By the way, using Acrobatics instead of Prevent Harm to dodge: legal or not?Generally not legal. Prevent Harm is supposed to cover almost all possible means of avoiding being hurt by physical attacks. A power or two that uses it, I could see, and perhaps a specific King, but players; No.
>>36637948If he's good for the wiki, here are the remaining Kings:Queen La of the Leopard KingdomEmpress Yzma of the Sunless EmpireGeneral Santa Anna of the Empire of MexicoImperial President Lyle Tiberius Rourke of the Imperial Republic of AtlantisThe Huntsmen of the Elite Global Huntsman Club (Muntz, Gaston, McLeach, Buldeo, Amos Slade, King Fergus)Chairman Cutler Beckett of the East India Trading Co.King Louis of the Kingdom of the Red FlowerBagheera, Lord of the Free Creatures (done?)King Ratigan of the Under-Empire
>>36638008I'm looking forward to statting Gaston tomorrow, but I still have homework and it's 2:30 here, so I'm going to be at least a little bit responsible and not start that now.
Has anything with Rapunzel been done? Because she would still be alive right?
>>36638042Stepmother peddling out immortality to those with the monies
>>36638042iirc, we just sort of agreed that she is still in a tower, and nobody has gotten to her so far.
>>36638042IIRC, she's imprisoned by Mother Gothel still, who uses her to create immortality elixirs. Other than that, nothing. Suggestions?
>>36637855By the by, Pastebin link for those interested:http://pastebin.com/0fy2n4rG
>>36638079Mmk, adding it to the catalogue.
>>36637227Dude I think you're right>Thread is +1 after 19 votes>Thread is +3 after 15 votes>Thread is 0 after 14 votesWhy do you hate us so much wizardsWhy
Exam tomorrow, after that, schedule will be free and I can write fluff again.What fluff there is left to write, I dunno.
>>36638834There might be another couple KLR's that need to be done. Other than that, nothing really comes to mind other than "writing whatever your whimsy wishes".
>>36638873>another couple KLR'sNopeAll done with thatWe just have to stat the kings and get done with the test campaign
>>36638891Really? We're done with all of that? Neat.By the by, I know this is just spitballing while more pressing matters need to be figured out, but just what sorta Disney and/or Pixar movies would we include in a modern/futuristic expansion? The list so far I've been thinking of has:Big Hero 6TRONWreck-it RalphThe IncrediblesUpMonsters, Inc.WALL-ETreasure PlanetLilo & StitchUnless there's carryover from the base set of KLR's, I'm seeing a lot of the campaigns started in this expansion to either be interstellar hijinks, superheroics, or cyberspace finagling, and I'm probably more interested in the last two than the first one.
Alameda Slim is a really interesting part of this setting. He's the most chronologically recent Victorious Villain, so recent that he's a biologically normal human with no immortality. Until he came along, the western United States may have been the last free place on Earth, fighting off the man in the top hat to the east. Slim needs to think about his place in the wretched world and whether he claims immortality and how, and he also needs to WATCH HIS FUCKING BACK.
>To decide which character involved in the action gets to act first, everyone rolls 3d6 + Initiative.>The character with the highest Initiative roll takes his Turn first.You're rolling dice that make identical initiatives routine, and providing no rule for tie-breaking.
So glad to see that these threads are still going. I was pulled away by real life issues for about a week so I have a lot to catch up with, threads, fluff, crunch, playtesting, all of it. Before I do though, I just want to say how happy I am to see that all you contributors have kept the ball rolling and the ideas coming. You all are doing great work here.>>36639538Glad to see you're still here, Atlantean Writer.
>>36639557Even more so now that he has to contend with Santana to the south. The main thing about Slim is that he's probably one of the easier, if not the easiest, king to take down, but do you really want to do it? He's not evil, just a greedy asshole, and taking him out would probably give a free pass to worse things like Facilier.
>>36639538>Wreck-It Ralph>TRON>King Candy has taken control of the Grid and linked almost all of the planet's computer systems to it
>>36640084>The digital world is relatively young, yet it still has its legends. Evil Otto, the literal killer boss. Polybius, the government-funded mind control cabinet. Worlds without numbers. But one stands above all others - for they say that there's a reason why Tobikomi forbids all discussion of the theory that Sugar Rush's strangest character was created by no human hand.
>>36640074I see Santa Anna doesn't have an entry in the 'immortality' file yet, but given his usage of voodoo and Aztec magic, I wouldn't put it past him to extend his life unnaturally.
>>36640084Back in the first thread, there was talk about Vanellope still floating around the Grid as some sort of "digital ghost story," with graffiti found around Game Central Station and other hubs implying that she isn't quite as King Candy would like to believe: a heavily artifacty JPEG of her victory pose that keeps showing up, buggy sound effects that almost sound like her laugh or her voice trying to communicate, a collection of random glitches in the shape of a small figure watching from inaccessible areas, seen briefly before they flicker out again.Some of her former racemates, before King Candy had them hauled off, have even been heard to say that Vanellope was not killed, but was set free and let loose.
>>36640074Wow, he may actually need to be PROTECTED because he's so far in over his head. I love this. He's a piece of shit but the other power in the USA is much worse. That's the American way!
>>36640357>Vanellope Von Schweetz as the good version of a creepypasta internet character, with an almost cult following of rebels and fellow glitches who believe she's real.
>>36640182Oh, nice. Urban legend incorporation is definitely a good idea.I can't tell who that last part is referring to, though. Vanellope?
>>36640454>You have no rights in using and posting this drawing anywhere unless you have my permissionSeriously? Then don't post it on fucking deviantart, the internet's character art bargain bin.
>>36640084Interesting take. What I was thinking with TRON goes back to TRON: Legacy--Clu's entire reason for bringing Sam into the Grid was to open the portal to the real world and conquer it. So my way of thinking says that there are places in the world where the digital world is just bleeding through. There are cities that are being steadily consumed and turned into hyperpacked, ultrasleek landscapes, Tron lines and all. Like, take Manhattan and cut it down the middle--everything from Midtown up to Harlem and keep that the same, everything down to Battery Park would be turned into The Grid. The transition at the border would be instantaneous and jarring. You'd have people in normal clothing on one side and programs walking around in skintight suits on the other.No clue what an Identity Disc would do to a flesh and blood person, though. Of course, that's not even taking into account what the police force would be like. With Syndrome's super enhancements, we'd have a Crackdown-style police force, armed with super-strength and energy projection and flight to combat other metahumans, aliens, and programs.
>>36640524>No clue what an Identity Disc would do to a flesh and blood person, though.Doesn't Sam get grazed by one in Legacy? It's basically a flying cutter wheel.
>>36640357That's just spooky anon
>>36640894That was the idea. As things get more modern in this new DVV expansion, it opens up different storytelling possibilities and influences like urban legends, as other Anons have said.>>36640454This is essentially the idea as I remember it. Like a good-aligned version of the Slender Man mythos, stories about Vanellope continue to circulate around the Grid and the mundane Internet, sparking belief in young people in an entity they know only as "the Glitch."
>>36640514>original character donut steel
>>36639538>Wall-E>Treasure PlanetShould we leave these for a far-future or space-themes expansion, aside from the modern expansion? Also, should we roll toons into this? If so, we have the makings of three new Dreamlands:>The Grid/Gamespace (TRON and Wreck-it Ralph)>The World of Monsters (Monsters INC.)>Toon Town (Who Framed Roger Rabbit, etc.)
>>36641718The idea is that toons should be their own expansion.
>>36642159Fair enough. That's probably for the best anyway and avoids muddying the waters too much. Question: who produced the Iron Giant?
>>36642244Warner Bros. unfortunately.
>>36640084I'd say that King Candy has taken leadership over all the gaming characters, and is currently waging war with Clu for control over the Grid.
>>36642285Ah, damn, you're right. It really is too bad. He would have slotted right in nicely.>>36642392This sounds pretty likely to me.
>>36642483Is...Is there a fight between Mario and the paperclip from older versions of Word?
>>36642648>That damned paperclip."It looks like you're trying to back King Candy's mainframe. Would you like help?"
>>36642924>The paper clip is actually King Candy's most secret spy>Nobody ever pays attention to him beyond being incredibly annoying, but harmful>Perfect disguise
>>36642948>Nobody ever pays attention to him beyond being incredibly annoying, but harmful>harmful
>>36643383Wait, shitI meant "harmless"
>>36643821Nooooo you didn't. And its okay! We all think of it that way friend!
>>36643383Well, he IS a first class ballbreaker..
would it be sensible for the party to get bonuses to a coordinated strike i.e:>party Smart Guy rolls good sensible+occult and yells something 'magical' at the party Strong Guy>party Strong Guy suddenly starts thrashing and yelling, His eye's roll up into his head and red foam bubbles out of the corners of his mouth>every NPC in the area has to roll against their sensibility to realize that the Strong Guy hasn't been possessed to bite his own tongue outso whaddaya think of this?
>>36644679Soundsore like deciet occult? Smarts deciet?
>>36644679Along the same lines, what if a Human Strong Guy were to throw a Fairy Nimble Gal at their foe as part of an attack?
>>36644832yes! this is exactly the Idea that sprang to mind, with fairy distracting the opponent the Strong Guy can move in and beat him to a pulp
>>36645079Right, or, possibly, the Fairy could use the String Guy's Athletics score to somehow augment her Acrobatics score to land a hit.
>>36645211yes this stuff is brilliant! I hope Nob #1 thinks this is a good idea though?
>>36645385I would expect that, thematically, we would want to encourage this type of collaborative play as Teamwork and Friendship are big parts of a lot of Disney movies. It's just working out the crunch to make it all fit mechanically that might take a little work. Stuff like throwing fairies around or everyone working together to pull off some sort of scam should definitely be a thing though.
>>36645585Maybe if the two players involved can justify the mashup of skills, they can be allowed to pool their talent scores to achieve greater results working together than they could alone. Taking >>36644679 and >>36644832's examples, say an Atlantean Charismatic Guy, a Gorilla Strong Guy and the Pixie Nimble Gal were fighting an enemy who's powers were derived from some sort of magical artifact they were holding. Theoretically, the players might be able to combine their Deception, Athletics and Acrobatics checks if they came up with a plan in which the Atlantean distracted their enemy while the Gorilla threw the Pixie, who then snatched the magical artifact out of their enemy's hand.
Leaving for my exam in about half an hour, I'll write a story of some kind when I get back.
>>36647179Forgot my name, but yeah, after that.
I wish I could contribute a bit more right now, but I was away the last week or so and I won't be able to catch up with the threads I missed till I'm off work this evening. From what I can see, we're nearly or almost done with the core game and people are starting to brainstorm things for the modern-day Disney expansion to follow. I might have a bit of writing in me, so I could try some fluff for either the core or the expansion.
>>36647179Best wishes man.
>>36647201Been enjoying your writing so far! Good luck on the exams!
>>36647255We're pretty much done, we only miss 14 kings (>>36638008) and new villains are always welcome.
>>36647298It seems I have a lot to catch up on. It's a strange feeling too, for the core game to be (nearly) completed. Bittersweet, so to speak. It's great that we've finished and have achieved our goal, but sad too that we're finished for the most part.
>>36642483>>36642285well we are doing a non-Disney Expansion eventually(to cover stuff by Don Bluth, Dreamworks, and other non-Disney animation companies), also for the modern expansion people seem to be forgetting about some of the Disney TV shows that'd be ripe for usage, heck Gargoyles alone is probably a couple chapters of useful material(Xanatos is probably a major player in Atlantean corporate politics for one thing), not to mention some of the other shows Disney has
>>36647477>Implying we'll be done with the 7-8 expansions already planned anytime soon.
>>36647595Question: will the modern-day expansion exist as a stand alone setting, or will it build upon the preexisting one?
>>36647885I say have it be part of the already existing one, shouldn't be hard to shove most of them in, especially since most of the modern ones are set in the US and there's plenty of room to shove them in there(and since Space-Time is already borked up in the core setting, it'll be easy to justify)
>>36647885>>36647985do note that some of them will be quite difficult to shove in and still keep the 'balance of power' intact. For example, the Pan-Asian Cooperative from Big Hero 6.>>36645385Looks good to me.both Nobody Important and Nobody Interesting are me, just Nobody Interesting is a phone post.
>>36636975PSSSSST, NOB. Would you seriously consider throwing a waifu the way of the party's chaotic stupid? Because I'm most of the of the way done to statting one up.
>>36648353Surprisingly, I didn't make this thread. Pond did. But sure, I'm sure I can squeeze in a meeting. Pastebin link?
>>36648402That was a mislink ayways. Still have to write up her goals and ideals and all that good stuff, but as the GM that should really be up to you anyways. Also, let's hope Nick likes appreciates females from visually different gene pools. http://pastebin.com/cRHj1AXb
>all this talk of future expansions right now>Vanellope rumors>I spent 100 or so hours in the Wreck-It-Ralph threads when it was in theatres, and I got fuckall to put in right now because it was 99.91% happy endings
Haven't had much to say recently, just popping in because I now do.>>36648353>>36648402>>36648511Nick's not all that visually different (pic related). He's probably got quite a bit of Spanish in him, which is interesting because that means he comes from two separate lines of people who genocided Native Americans.
>>36648893Left out my picture like an idiot.
>>36648893>>36648918I don't know, spainards and indians can look pretty darn different. Also your physical description thing says he has blue eyes, probably from the english side I guess, which is pretty striking in comparison.
>>36648893>>36648918>>36648977>Maximum genetic diversity for offspringAccept no substitutes.
>>36647885>>36647985>>36648224Question-asker here. Speaking for myself, my own inclination would be to create the DVV world afresh for the new expansion.We've done a fair bit of work already in balancing the core world and including as many different Kings and Lands as we could, and I think that it might possibly be more difficult to work so many new ones than some may think. We've also set these modern titles aside until now because they were very different in terms of tech level and theme than the ones chosen for the core game. I think that these high-tech lands and more modern themes may be best explored if they're allowed to have their own setting to spread out in, rather than having to contend with the preestablished Kings and their Lands.
Oh, I put off a massive project that's due Wednesday, and I'll probably be pulling an all-nighter working on it, so I won't be able to do Gaston today in all likelihood. Sorry. I still am looking forward to statting him though, I just can't get around to it tonight.
>>36648798That's okay though, because you seem equipped none the less to contribute now if you want. What do you think about the "digital copypasta glitch ghost" idea proposed earlier?
>>36649191Seems fine, but now that I think about it, I do recall one BAD END in which Vanellope ordered her racers executed for real, and was revealed to have been possessed by Turbo, as well as some near BAD ENDs where the bugs ate everyone in Sugar Rush but it wasn't so bad in the end because they retained their programming and could pass themselves off as normal to the players.
>>36649326Also, this might provide some insight as to how Ralph's world looks from the outside looking in.
>>36637120That bit of fluff's been here since thread 2
By the way, it's really early to ask this, but how are we going to handle digital characters in parties that include non-digital people? I wants to play me a digital Strong Guy who's also shooty.
>>36649840I was actually thinking that if this is modern times, or maybe in the not too distant future, there will be screens everywhere that happen to be networked to everything else, allowing digital characters to at least interact with their companions. Also, there was some talk about the Grid/Cyberspace overlaying the real world in some places.
So few kings left to stat, come on guys!
>>36649599Yeah, if we couldn't have Anastasia's Rasputin then somebody else had to be our lich.
>>36640507If the bad guy won, then there's no Vanellope in the game and anyone who mentions her name on Tobikomi's forums gets permabanned. Same for anyone who questions the presence of a certain exclaimer of HAVE THOME CANDY!
>>36651404But that's not quite as fun!
This setting needs the implication that Grimhilde is the daughter of Grim and Hildy.
>>36651324although Rasputin is at the top of the list of non-Disney villains to get added once we start the non-Disney supplement(luckily most villains from non-Disney sources are very regional in nature so should be easily able to be fit in)
>>36651451Oh, Vanellope's still a legendary glitch, but all evidence of her existence has been scrubbed from every copy of Sugar Rush. Tobikomi has given up on trying to fix King Candy's/Turbo's damage and simply claimed that there never was a Vanellope and that King Candy was always in the game. Physical evidence is hunted and destroyed to hide the secret. The internet is scoured for evidence which is deleted, though means legitimate and otherwise. Tobikomi will do anything, ANYTHING to hide the secret of Sugar Rush's global alteration and the truth it implies - that video game characters are alive.
>>36651610>Grim and HildyWhom? I presume Grim is one of the famous brothers.
>>36651672Or... maybe they're acting under someone's command. A silly little man with a crown who has the entire company by the balls...
>>36651674They're everyone's favorite characters - husand-and-wife villains who actually love each other - from The 7D, the animated prequel TV series to Snow White.
>>36651719>googled that shit to see if it was legit>it is, but in the most horrible wayYou sick, sick motherfucker.
>>36648798>Sugar Rush citizens>RussiansThis makes me unusually happy.
Alright folks, I'm back.A list! I require a list of Kings to stat o I may pick one!
>>36651888It was a glorious sight to behold back in the day; really, these screencaps do not even compare to being there.
>>36652152Man, this is just a walk down memory lane.
Back from exam, did well. I'll write something up after dinner.
>>36652152>>36652226Very interesting and definitely fodder for thought here. One question I have though is, wouldn't the residents of our modern DVV world know that sentient programs and game characters exist?
>>36652934Glad to hear that your exam went well!
>>36652957Probably. Also, presenting the bullshit bonus boss.
Heres a Idea: AUTO is unable to stop the return the earth, but does defeat the Captain. During the warp to earth, Chernobog works his powers so that he enters the VV timeline. Once he warps to earth, he declares the landing site as a safe zone for robots, and becomes a Robo-Andrew Ryan. Here, he attracts some of the more disenfranchised robots such as The brave little Toaster(Now a giant deathray machine), the fireball cast(Pic related) Dorris from meet the Robinsons and maybe the Iron Giant.They are incredibly Xenophobic, and have lopped off almost access to the grid and rarely travel into the surrounding area, in fear of death, or worse, corruption
>>36653327You know, that seems like it would work out pretty well. Maybe give them Michigan and the Great-Lakes area to use as their base of operations?
>>36653327>the fireball cast>look it up on google>find it>MFW this thread keeps getting weirder and weirder.
>>36652957Perhaps they'd know that there's malware around that makes real-world malware look like 'delete system32 to triforce', but only some would know the real reason - that all video game characters are alive and one is more alive (and TURBOTASTIC) than the rest.
Bump to ensure this thread will be here in the morning.
Okay, finally ready. Topic suggestions?
>>36655155Perhaps something with these new future ideas? Perhaps something in the grid or >>36653327's Axium
Oh shit, I've just realized something about Alameda Slim. He took over the West with charisma rather than by force, he's probably aged from his appearance in Home on the Range... HE'S AN ASSHOLE VERSION OF TEDDY ROOSEVELT! BULLY!
>>36652957I would imagine that the normal citizenry wouldn't know about digital space like The Grid existing. But the police force, supers, and the tech-savvy criminal element? They would totally know about it.A party build that comes to mind would consist of a Program--maybe an ISO if you want to pull off special cyberspace shit--, one or two supers (for a testbed on statting--whenever down the road that'll be--basically take one or two folks from that massive pantheon /co/ has generated, though /co/lette and Jetpack Viking come to mind explicitly), and a Monster straight from the scare floor of Monsters, Inc.The superhero part is probably gonna need the most work to not come off as something generic, so I was thinking superpowers would have to be strictly tech-based. Gauntlets, greaves, helmets, exo-suits--all are permitted. Super-strength? No problem. Energy blasts or manipulation? Totally doable. Flight by way of jetpack? Totally doable. But natural heroes--ones with organic superpowers born from mutation or lab accidents--would be extremely rare, but obscenely powerful.
>>36655572If Syndrome wins, there will probably be will be little to no natural born supers left.
Hey you can post the next thread with this.
>>36655244Mmk, I'll think of something.
>>36655712My favorite part is still Brafrongled
>>36656214>brafrongledIn general, we need more Hero-tier traits/powers. We also could use some statted Villains and Kings, though I know that takes a lot of work.
>>36656623I'll see what I can tackle tomorrow. Spent most of today returning from away status and trying to catch up. Failing wonderfully. Thank you Nob for everything you've done for these threads and this project.
>>36653088>Robustness: More than you/12
Okay, so here's a thing.http://pastebin.com/gLQNqCdu
There's one element of Turbo's personality that should always be present: he is desperate. Pesperate for fame, respect, and to mean something to people. He wants to become legend and he doesn't care how.
>>36658474so lemme guess he'd get pissy over this:> "Hello there ! I'm Turbo! Greatest racer in the whole Grid, no scratch that, the world!"> "Never heard of ya mate, sorry"
>>36658926About to go to bed, I'll spitball ideas for the future tomorrow.
Christopher Robin's entry on 1d4chan makes me think that a Hundred Acre Wood adventure could potentially get pretty mindfucky. Christopher Robin is no longer an ordinary child - a swathe of England untouchable by the Horned King has become the physical manifestation of his imagination, and he himself remains forever young. What happened to Christopher that trapped him within an eternal childhood summer?
I can't even begin to imagine the state of the Villains Victorious world map in the future.
>>36657997>http://pastebin.com/gLQNqCduVery nice, well done.
>>36659117This is why I'm inclined to have this modern/future setting be restricted to modern/future Disney properties and, perhaps, only focus on North America and Japan.I'll try my hand at writing something.
>>36659117I'm not sure if we'll have even a worldmap for the future. Pretty much all Disney flicks after the 1960s take place in space, the United States, or an ambiguous/fantastic location. Just for a quick rundown of what I can remember:Oliver and Company: New York.Tron/Tron Legacy: US/cyberspace.Toy Story 1-3: US suburbia, and few of the villains stand any chance at world domination.A Bug's Life: Could be anywhere.Monster's Inc/University: The world of monsters.Lilo and Stitch: Hawaii/space.Treasure Planet: Space.Finding Nemo: Australia, sure, but who's gonna be the villain here, a friggin' anglerfish? Seagulls? A child with braces?Chicken Little: Suburbia, only everyone is animals, which is kinda incompatible with everything else. Also, it's Chicken Little, I say we toss it in the same drawer as keyblades and Angelina Jolie's Maleficent.The Incredibles: The Bay Area and an unidentified island.Cars/Cars 2/Planes/Planes 2/Cars 3: Primarily the US again, also kind of incompatible with anything.Meet the Robinsons: Suburban US/the future.Ratatouille: Paris, but the only villains are a dick-ass chef and a food critic.Bolt: Roadtrip across the US. The villain is a fictional character.Wall-E: Space and an unidentified city.Up: The US and parts of South America.Bash-It Bill: The US/cyberspace.Big Hero 6: San Fransokyo.Basically, there are fewer movies that take place in a clearly-designated Earthly location outside the US than movies that take place inside a computer.
>>36657997>The MCPI had almost forgotten about that big old face. It'd be pretty interesting, too, to see Tron/Rinzler's face when he notices so many Users prancing about the Grid.
>>36659617Sorry, just remembered the island in Incredibles was named Nomanisan Island. A bit of Googling says it's in the South Pacific, near Easter Island.
>>36659617Thanks for compiling all these films for us! You make a good point, and I think that the possibility of restricting the expansion to these modern/future properties, North America and perhaps Japan is at least worth considering.
Latest draft of Tzekel-kan's powers; he now has a power that lets him regain willpoints from killing his own allies. If no one objects, it'll go up on the wiki and we can scratch another king off the list.---Powers---Blood For The Blood God: Regain one strike every time blood of a sacrificial victim is drawn at most 50 meters away. On his own turn, regain two strikes for every sacrifice within 50 meters who has being bleeding for a full round.....of course, the sacrifice must be conducted with the proper rituals, and only 2 sacrifices can fit on the altar at any time.Reign in Blood: Strikes regained from BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! may take Tzekel-kan above his normal maximum strikes. Additionally, for every 5 strikes regained by these powers, increase Robustness by 1 for the rest of the scene.Needs More....Soul: Make a melee attack against a mook or lackey that adds Occult as a bonus. If the mook or lackey dies, regain a will point.Animate: Spend a Will Point. Tzekel-Kan draws his own blood (loses one Strike), and animates a Stone Jaguar to fight at his side. Cannot be used more than three times in the same scene. (In-unvierse justification is that he's losing too much blood)Blood Magic: Spend a Will Point, and burn one Strike. Tzekel Kan's next three attacks also use his Occult+Intelligence, with a +3 bonus for every Strike that Tzekel-Kan has lost.COMPLETELY OPTIONAL BIZARRE ADVENTURE MODEAwaken My Masters!: Once he has regained at least 20 strikes from BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!, Tzekel-kan may spend two willpoints to cause a solar eclipse and awaken THE AZTEC GODS OF FITNESS from their slumber within a great mural. As long as at least one of THE AZTEC GODS OF FITNESS is awake and alive, Tzekel-kan's gains from his other powers are doubled
>>36653327Buy n' Large, originally based out of Chicago, grew and grew and grew to become the giant warehouse retailer and political entity we know from the movie Wall-E, eventually taking over and the entirety of the region, and then the country, and then the world, turning it all into a giant polluted scrapheap.When the DVV mashup occurs, Buy n' Large's original holdings in the Great Lakes - Midwest area were brought along with the Axiom and several other ships perhaps, and Auto was forced to land the ship in Detroit as it was the only available Buy n' Large disembarkation site and manufacturing facility available to him.This area, now known as the Heartland Wasteland, is a sprawling junkyard, patrolled by Auto's security drones and defense forces as he continues to keep his human cargo safe aboard the Axiom, free from all worries or cares or responsibilities. Meanwhile, EVE has managed to escape along with her cavalcade of malfunctioning robots, establishing a base of sorts in the old Bn'L headquarters building in Chicago, attempting to fulfill her original directive of rehabilitating the city.
>>36659617>Up: The US and parts of South America.Charles Muntz is in the core setting as one of the elite hunters; as far as I can tell, our justification is that his victory wasn't just bagging the Snipe, it was bagging the Snipe while he was still a young man, and thus he counts as a pre-WWII villain.
>>36660577Agreed. Muntz works better in the core, Pre-WWII era DVV world, though I think he was left out of the Kings List on the Wiki entry by accident.
>>36660640Muntz is part of the huntsmen's club on the KLR list.
>>36660771He's not on the introductory "Kings of Evil" list, which is what messed me up. I'm on my gone now so it won't let me edit him in.>>36660560With regards to the Grid and other Lands, Buy n' Large's technology is hundreds of years more advanced than their neighbors', their computing network is stand-alone and their operating systems are encrypted out the wazoo, rendering them a citadel of proprietary information technology wholly seperate from the Grid.However, this also makes Buy n' Large tech very interesting to scavengers and big companies, who try to pick through the Heartland Wasteland for older abandoned technology while trying to avoid Auto's detection.Also: I hate this new Captcha system.
>>36659617Is it just me or the modern stuff pretty much overloads America and Most of Japan while leaving Europe, Africa and the rest of Asia completely empty?>>36660922Waiting may be annoying but at least we don't have to fight with unintelligible gibberish anymore. Well, almost...
>>36661128Japan is pretty empty right now m8. Europe has a lot of Disney's best films and most important villains already, and is better without modern stuff. Fuck Africa.
>>36661128That's what it looks like to me too. If a Disney film isn't set in the vague past, its set in North America or some international fusion thereof.Also, working off my phone, the Captcha plugin actually fails almost every other time.
>>36661128>>36661269It's cause Disney does folklore and legends. Guess who doesn't have very many before the 1920s?
>>36661303Every place inhabited by man has some folklore and legends. It's just a popularity contest.
>>36661320European folklore from medieval to napoleonic times has been their most successful and interesting of any region by far though with few exceptions.
It does seem like a modern expansion of DVV will be focused by necessity on North America.
>>36661360European folklore from medieval to napoleonic times has also been the majority of what they do, and what they have the most experience and familiarity with. I think we can agree that it's not because the folklore itself is inherently better.
Before this gegenerates into yet another Yuropoor vs. 'Murrifat shitstorm, what are we gonna do with the other continents? More advanced versions of the current DVV forces? Split between the new powers? Ignored?
>>36661501I think for the most part the world can remain similar.Hades for example could still be a force, Atlantis fits in easy, loin king can still be there.Perhaps santa anna can get immortal along with grimhilde?
>>36661501Personally speaking, I'm still in favor of making the Modern DVV expansion a stand-alone setting that focuses on North America and the modern-age films exclusively, perhaps even going so far as to replace Cherry Bomb with a more thematically appropriate BBEG.
>>36661449Don't be arguing that socialist bullcrap that all cultures are equal and virtue is another name for vice now. Europe's tales from Beowulf's dragons to a million variations of legends with unique morals and creatures from Scotland's banshees and night creatures to France's fey, Sweden's elves, the thousands of legends from Greece all the way to modernist German tales of great magical tyrants and secret societies is more interesting and better than 4000 years yielding 20 variations of 'why nature is good and balanced as told by animals' Africa has made. There is a reason only one Disney movie is from that shithole.
>>36661603I think he was talking about America, but I agree with your point if he wasn't.
>>36661603You know that with very few exceptions, basically every fairy tale ever across the globe breaks down into "do what your parents tell you" and basically every tale of a heroic journey is....well, the Hero's Journey, right? The real differences in folklore and legends across cultures is which themes and motifs appear consistently.It would have been interesting to see what the Africans could have come up with if they had ever advanced their civilizations far enough to develop proper literature.
>>36661686This is the single most retarded thing I've ever read. It's stupider than ponderous's shitposting last night. Have you ever read a SINGLE piece of European folklore? Because you just said they all share a central motif that almost all go against, and even implying a majority of them share ANY motif is beyond fucking retarded. Also, don't argue hypotheticals. Pure blooded Africans are fucking retarded and would never have developed great works without European and Asian help.
>>36661686>basically every fairy tale ever breaks down into 'do whatever your parents tell you'literally fucking what
>>36661781>Because you just said they all share a central motif that almost all go againstWat.>even implying a majority of them share ANY motif is beyond fucking retarded. You failed high school English, didn't you?
We're going a bit far afield now of the purview of the thread, so let's perhaps set aside these interesting cultural and anthropological debates and refocus ourselves on the setting.
>>36661837How can you honestly, legitimately believe that the majority of European tales share a motif, especially 'obey your parents'? Did you actually go to a special ed school or something? Because it's honestly one of the stupidest things I've ever heard, especially from someone who claims to know anything about folklore. It's just so blatantly fucking wrong.
>>36661882Most folklore is based on the concept of 'do what your parents tell you or really bad shit will happen'. I'm not sure what you're talking about.
>>36661882Says the idiot who doesn't know how similar all the morals of SO MANY stories among all cultures are.Do you really think there's a culture that hasn't for a long time said "OBEY YOUR ELDERS."?Man you are dumb.
>>36661936The only Disney film we're accepting right now with that theme is the fucking lion king. And MAYBE lil mermaid.
>>36661882>all of the 'bad shit happens to kids who go wandering in the woods' folktales don't exist>>36661961The Lion King is Hamlet. Not a folktale.
>>36661942Put your name back on Knightfag, you aren't fooling anyone.
>>36661970>>36661942>>36661936>this many people actually believe thisQuick, name five European tales where a child (NOT a disillusioned wife, NOT a quester, NOT a lover) gets into trouble because they do not listen to their parents (NOT because they followed orders, NOT because the devil tricked them, NOT because their friends pushed them to it)It's a theme in a COUPLE of stories, nothing more.
>>36662000The first issue is finding a piece of european folklore that you won't reject because 'm-muh too recent'. The second issue is that a lot of these stories just don't have names.Anything about Baba Yaga, the Prodigal Son, Shockheaded Peter(which is actually ten stories, but hey, I'll count it as one for you), Hebrews in the Bible, which I'm sure a lot of people argue is european, any number of numerous early 20th century serial killer stories, and let's finish off with two 'maybes': alice in wonderland and little red riding hood.this would probably be quicker if I knew almost anything about european folklore. More of a Classical history kind of guy, and those stories are fucking numerous in roman mythology
>>36662000>Cappuccetto Rosso>Lo sciocco Senza Paura>Muta per Sette Anni>Lots of tales from the Decameron>About ten thousand local tales with Pierino or GiacominoAnd that's just my country.
>>36662176>one deep Russian story focusing on witchcraft and the devil>three biblical tales from fucking ISRAEL, not european>one tale from after the industrial eraStep it up senpai. Give me five tales from in or before Grimm. There's literally thousands upon thousands.Red riding hood follows her parents to a T. Alice is constantly changing versions.
>>36662214Noice job m8 but the fact that that took you 30 minutes and it's all obscure Italian tales makes me believe you had to look it up to get that. If not then good job I suppose. Point is that it's not a constant motif, and that still stands.
>>36662247>baba yaga>one storyOkay, m8. You realize it's a slavic staple, right?>3 biblical talesI see two. Shockheaded peter is ~1870s and stories from earlier.>m-must be earlierHow about the pile of Roman stories which focus on exactly this? Off the top of my head, I can think of three different Roman stories which can be summed up to 'boy gets eaten by wolf because he doesn't listen to dad', 'young man wanders off path and gets eaten by wolf because he doesn't listen to dad', and 'boy is eaten by werewolf because he doesn't listen to dad'.>>36662266>not a constant motif>b-but you need to have perfect memory and good typing speed for it to count!Fuck off. You're contributing nothing and establishing arbitrary limitations and moving goalposts.
>>36662296those romans were really big on getting eaten by wolves
>>36662214>Decameron>Cappuccetto Rosso>ObscureThey may not be that well known outside, but one is a staple of italian literature and the main inspiration for the Canterbury Tales, concerning the other there are maybe 50 kindergarten in the entire peninsula who doesn't know it and it has local almost identical versions in almost every country in europe.
>>36662324It was kind of a thing. If you want, I can add in some stories where people are killed by savage barbarians because they didn't listen to their parents. Of course, the problem that is going to be drawn with most of these is A: They aren't published, because a four-paragraph cautionary tale doesn't deserve a book, and B; Most of them are pretty much only in latin since nobody can be arsed to translate five thousand stories that are pretty much the same but for minor details like who is doing what where.
>>36648353Going waaaaay back. Just saying, chaotic stupid and stupid good are pretty damn perfect for Disney. I don't get why people think either are bad- like fuck, Jesus and Ghandi were stupid goods by any definition. For chaotic stupids, only chaotic randoms or Chaotic insane are bad with regards to Disney, charming rogues like Nick are great setting-wise, fits in perfectly with characters like Ryder and Naveen.
>>36662775Yes, but both Naveen and Ryder are totally immature chaotics who are only cured of their immaturity through a more mature woman who cares for them and teaches them not to be assholes in true Disney fashion .
>>36662775It does, but Pond is potentially (possibly rightfully) worried about the breaking of the social contract in TTRPGs where generally one does not go out of their way to screw over fellow players.
>>36663240Yeah, I really don't see how either the character or the player is or would be screwing over the other players, though. The character is an idiot, but hardly suicidal. I don't forsee him going 'LOL FUCK YOUR PLANS' in or out of character and just attacking the regional King or something.
Is anyone statting up kings right now? Tell me someone is. Home stretch, guys.
>>36664213Finals week for me. Someone else will need to do it.
>>36661603The only reason you say this is that you only really know the cultures of one particular region, and you only know their stories. >>36661781> Pure blooded Africans are fucking retardedGo back to /pol/ and stop shitposting here so you can get back to talking about how great Hitler is.>>36662296Moral of the story: Wolves will fuck you up.>>36662775The issue is the balance between Disney and playing a role-playing game. Those CG characters are interesting to watch, but we all know that they would be a pain to be around and have to work together with (and that is part of what makes them the characters that they are). From a role-playing standpoint, if you having fun and role-playing your character hurts everyone else's ability to have fun, then you're That Guy, even though you were just rollplaying well. Jesus and Ghandi were both Stupid Goods, but you wouldn't want to have them in your party. We have a problem that the movies never did, in that we have to deal with both a practical aspect of interaction with other players being bound by a social contract, like the anon in >>36663240 said, and maintaining the integrity of the setting. I got pissed a couple of nights ago and overreacted due to some RL shit going on, and I'm sorry for that, but it is a point that we should try to deal with somehow.
>>36664723Not that guy but he's pretty right about Europe and Asia in comparison to Africa. Pureblooded Africans have quite literally never progressed past mudhuts and weird oral folklore, the only times anyone in Africa ever built anything close to what ancient Asians and Europeans achieved was when Romans came down and built it for them and in ancient Coptic kingdoms that were mainly European and Middle Eastern.
>>36664723>that entire last paragraphHoly fucking shit, can you stop shitposting. That was the worst thing I've ever read. A charming rogue compromises the integrity of the setting? A well-played player is a that guy because your shitty character doesn't mesh well in-character with it? Jesus and Ghandi were boring characters? Jesus fucking Christ. You're actually a that guy.
>>36664723Please stop discussing theoretical scenarios where a good player playing a good character would go 'HURR DURR LOL I'M GONNA BREAK THE GAME' because you think it could possibly happen. Really. Just stop.>>36664830>pure-blooded africans are egyptiansAlright, you're actually retarded.
>>36664830>Pureblooded Africans>Only ones in Africa that built things were ones helped by Middle Easterners and Europeans>Egpytians
>>36664824The point is not that Jesus and Ghandi are boring characters. They are incredibly interesting ones. The point that I made is that they would not work well with others who want to do things any way but theirs. Imagine if you had a healer in your party who walked in front of enemies with no armor or weapons and effectively placed his life in their hands, and you had been preparing for the fight for the whole campaign. One of two things happen:1. He convinces them, and averts the fight completely. He just single-handedly saved the day, which is good for him, but leaves everyone else feeling pretty useless, seeing as they were preparing for this for a whole campaign.2. He just gets himself killed, and you lose a party member.While he did something very interesting based on the concept of nonviolence, he wasn't necessarily a great group member in terms of playing a game with other people. tl;dr All I said was that Jesus and Ghandi wouldn't be necessarily great members of a party in a TTRPG.>>36664882Egypt was one of the first six great civilizations that existed on this planet, and was by far one of the longest-lasting. They were there at the same time as the Mesopotamian rise of civilization, and were, in fact, natives of the fucking continent of Africa. The continent was actually much larger than a single region with a single race of people.
>>36664989>niger>or coptic civilizationsYou are also retarded.
>>36665009I don't know what that is but there is, in all likelihood, a narrative behind it that falls into Coptic or assisted lines.>>36665031That's a fucking dirt hut.
>>36664983>Seriously and legitimately arguing that Egyptians are blackIt's time to stop posting.
>>36664989>A specifically mentioned Coptic civilization>>36665009>????? Looks like non-african stone and Roman paving? Not sure>>36665031>literally a large fucking dirt fort>>36665054>a large mud hut with a mud wallFuck off, african history major
>>36665041>That's a fucking dirt hut.Yes, fancy bonsais there...
>>36664723>>36664983>>36664989>>36665009>>36665031>>36665054I want tumblr to leave. I fucking loathe /pol/ and their idiotic ways but this is some of the stupidest shit I've ever seen.
>>36665041Why is it so important to you to insist that Africans are an inferior race? Are you really so pathetically attached to your racism that the very concept of people with darker skin than yours being actual people with the same mental and physical traits as you that you have to argue against everyone else and just spew fucking hatred on everything until someone breaks down and tells you how great you are as a member of the superior race of humanity?That's fucking sad, mate.>>36665065I didn't say black. I said African. As in, of the continent of Africa. Egypt is a part of Africa. This is a fact. Also, again, why the fuck do you have to insist on this racist bullshit dick-measuring contest?>>36665144Literally the only point that we've made is that there are good folk stories from places other than Europe and that the entire continent of Africa isn't made of "retards in mud huts". That's not tumblr. That's just the tone of any reasonable discussion outside of a fucking Klan meeting.
>>36665009>>36665041>>36665107I just looked this one up. Apparently it was built somewhere in the rough 1300s and it's still heavily disputed whether the natives actually built it or the passing Middle Easterners did. It clearly has Iranian influence though.
>>36664786Don't shitpost, please.Even ignoring Egypt, which was definitely an African kingdom that predates European civilization, there were the Mali Empire (which had so much gold it accidentally destroyed some Italian economies), the Swahili city states, the Empire of Kitara, the Kingdom of Axum and a few dozen or so other kingdoms that dotted the continent. Ironworking, goldsmithing, complex agriculture, and high quality stonework had been developed by various cultures for quite a long time.However,>Pureblooded AfricansThat's not a thing. That has never been a thing. Africa is far from a homogenous entity. It's a massive continent and the cradle of humanity. Sub-Saharan Africa still has more genetic diversity than the rest of the world combined (as is typically expected of the place of origin of a species). There's no such thing as "pureblooded Africans" at all. Kazakhstan is just as Asian as China, just as Egypt is just as African as Uganda.
>>36665199First off mate I'm Chinese because your dumb liberal ass probably assumed I'm white, second off I consider myself totally equal to whites and middle easterners, but blacks are absolutely a subspecies at best of humanity. Insisting 60IQ savages that accomplished nothing in their entire history until whiteys arrived is equal to the incredibly accomplished Chinese civilization is fucking insulting.
>>36665211>passing Middle Easterners>Iranian influenceSilly Anon. Everybody knows Great Z was a mere outpost of the Second Punic Empire...
>>36665239For fucks sake. Get out.
Holy shit have things taken a turn.
>>36665239Never said you were white. Never said it. Try reading my post before attacking a critical point that does not exist. Also, you're clearly a racist fuck, you're just a Chinese racist fuck, not a white racist fuck. Also, saying that you don't hate whites or Arabs doesn't make your hatred of blacks any more reasonable, it just shows that you are a marginally more specific racist fuck than people may have otherwise assumed. Please leave the thread.
>>36665228Let's go down that list to break down your useless major. Also, every historian worth their salt agrees that Egypt is a middle eastern civilization, not a fucking black one.>Mali EmpireYou mean the one founded by North African refugees and Roman emigrants, was ruled by them except for a handful of black rulers and had their entire nation run by them? That one? Yeah, ok.>Swahili city statesLegitimately barely a footnote in history. Using traded and stolen Asian and white technology they traded a bit. That's fucking it.>KitaraLiterally a fucking legend told by blacks to pump up themselves. No records of it exist.>AxumFUCKING COPTIC YOU CUNT.Calling Africa the cradle of humanity is an absolute joke. They're savages and always have been, and the ones that didn't move to China or Europe stayed savages forever. They have no genetic diversity because they never evolved, like the entire rest of the world from America to Indonesia did. Suggesting they developed ironworking, goldsmithing, or anything past three-wheel systems is blatant lies spouted on noexistant evidence. Fuck off and take your neohistory with you.
>>36665357THIS IS A THREAD AROUND DEVELOPING A GAME SYSTEM FOR DISNEY MOVIES.CONTRIBUTE TO THAT INSTEAD OF INSISTING ">M-MUH LOWER RACE" OR;GET. THE FUCK. OUT.
Anyways, anyone have good suggestions for Gaston's traits/powers? >>36665357Please leave, we're done with your bullshit
I would like to stat kings now instead of two separate sides spouting nonsensical revisionism skewed in various ways. Not gonna comment on how utterly wrong both are.
>>36665239First, not the guy you were responding to.Egypt developed at around the same time as China, without help from the Middle East or Europe. They had brown skin, and they had a greater effect on the surrounding peoples than any group had on them for several thousand years.Civilizations in Ethiopia and the Swahili city-states were instrumental pieces in the Indian Ocean trade routes. Kingdoms in central Africa excelled at stone- and metal-working.Mali built a nice little empire out of gold exports.And personally, I'm not surprised that a Chinese guy is stupidly racist. I've known enough Asians not to be surprised by stupid amounts of racism from some of them.
Oh boy, African History Major and That Guy yelling at random Chink racist + friends. How fun.
>>36665459We appear to have picked up /pol/ refugees. Fuck my life.>>36665391He's gonna need some powers detailing how liked and attractive he is, as well as ones detailing his self-centered state of mind.
Hey guys, how far away from pdf are we--What in the unholy tittyfucking shit is going on in hereWhy are we arguing /pol/ level shitThe egyptians were an african civilization and had sick lore, I'm sure many others have too, most just couldn't grow into huge well known empires because they were too busy killing each other for a long fucking timeWhat in the almighty shit guys, drop this fucking thing and focus on something actually useful
>>36665391He has most ladies constantly swooning over him, so probably bonus to social strikes against ladies.Morale boosting of some kind for the lads with him.The uncanny ability to fire a single-shot flintlock blunderbuss 3 times without unloading.
>>36665490I'm more concerned that we've picked up an African History Major and Pond's awful anti-Disney rants.>>36665507Gatson should have an ability to never reload, because it is beneath GATSON!
>>36665490What do you think of a trait that makes him very strong against social attacks unless someone beats him at a physical skill, in which case his self-esteem is shattered and he becomes weaker to them?
>>36665525for a turn or two. Forgot to mention that part.
>>36636975Link to the googledoc with all the writefaggotry?
>>36665521Pond can say whatever he wants. If it doesn't affect the game and it's not pages upon pages of random /pol/ tier ramblings, I don't care.Also an African History Major is only as useless as every other kind of major: it teaches you to write properly and be an academician. The ability to not have to reload sounds hilarious. In it goes.>>36665525Sounds fine. How would you balance it? He's gonna need top-tier physical stats for that to work, though.
>>36665566>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qj_IIuF_rqh_F2L-SeYn-dBiwDTtwWFpnbcXyfcgeE8/editLiterally in the pastebins list, anon.
>>36665521All I said was that we have to be careful because we want to maintain a role-playing system and keep the Disney atmosphere at the same time, because a lot of Disney heroes don't work well with others, and we need to respect that, but we also don't want to make good rollplaying into That Guy-ism. I'm just >>36665566I don't know, I just copy/pasted it from the last thread. I didn't think that there was anything new to add to the copypasta, but I could be wrong.>>36665580Never reloading is a win. He'll pretty much have a magical infinite blunderbuss to fight with. I'd probably give him a flat bonus to Endure against social strikes and then make it so that he took a penalty for every physical skill that has hurt him in the past two turns. (i.e. he could have a penalty for Melee, a penalty for Brawl, and a penalty for Ranged, all at once.Alternatively, I could just give him Echo Chamber (the trait I made for Frollo that buffs him against social strikes as long as he has a harem) to affect the ladies around him, so you have to scare them off first. That might be simpler.
>>36665725> I'm just wow, forgot to finish my own thought, got distracted by balancing Gaston.I'm just trying to point out a possible issue.
>>36665725>All I said was that we have to be careful because we want to maintain a role-playing system and keep the Disney atmosphere at the same time, because a lot of Disney heroes don't work well with others, and we need to respect that, but we also don't want to make good rollplaying into That Guy-ism.To be truthful, you were both letting your That Guys out that night, and between the two of you Sverd was the more tolerable. I'll take a wildcard over a control freak any day of the week.Also, Frollo's not on 1d4chan.
>>36666079I was. I was being a dick that night, and I'm sorry for it. I'll try not to let it happen again. I was planning on playing a slightly more subdued charming guy for a change, as my previous characters weren't very subtle. and being able to do some of the party-face type stuff that is a Charming Guy's job, and then when Sverd started jumping out and doing his crazy Nimble Guy shit, jumping around on tables and yelling, I got pissed because I felt useless because he was playing the Charming Guy and the Nimble Guy at the same time, and I got shitty. I'm sorry about that, and I won't let it happen again.
>>36666207You really shouldn't get mad at a character acting in-character. Jumping up and yelling about himself isn't trying to butt into your territory because it's not something your character would do. Considering you both fight on essentially a same level and you have much better music and intimidate, and persuasion half the time, Nick just is really good at vanishing and lying and shit and talking to women. Since you aren't playing a conventionally 'charming' character, the party would really be pretty shit without at least one guy with initiative. I imagine the session would have been boring as fuck if Nick wasn't going around being charming and whatnot. Your role should be to intimidate and buff, because you've designed much more of a backup character than a party face. To be honest your character would probably work a lot better as a Robust guy with points in deceit and intimidate, your character as a party face really doesn't make sense.
>>366660791d4chan has been down for me for like the last day, I haven't been able to update anything.
>>36666575Yeah, this. I have no idea what you were planning to do by winning at pool and then losing at poker, but to me it just looked like you were dicking about.
>>36666575I know I shouldn't have. I was stressed from some real-life shit that I should have done but don't. Also, how is Nick better at being a party face than Nanuk? Nanuk has 3 more Charm and an effective 2 more deceit and 1 more persuasion so long as he maintains his human disguise. Even against a girl, Nick still can only just match Nanuk's bonuses to Persuade, which is his best skill. And that disregards the fact that Nanuk will roll better on Charm because he rolls 4d6k3. Actually, I don't think I've ever seen someone be able to use the unnaturally beautiful trait. I've taken it, but there aren't really many women in the game. Maybe I should have played a girl...
>>36666898You're in the wild west. You should expect that most of the people you're going to run in to will be men. that'll change when you head to other regions. >>36666839I think he was trying to start a fight in the same way. Nick did sort of jump to start a fight and then to restart it, admittedly.
>>36666944I was actually talking about in a playtest. I think it was the EITC one.
>>36666839I didn't mean to play pool. I meant to say poker, and just fucked up and got lucky before realizing that pool was not my strong suit. (Agi+Acro, if I recall, not a good one for me)I was hoping to get them talking over the card game and then take all their money. It was not well thought-out.
>>36666898Nick's better at playing a party face fluff-wise. It honestly seems to me like you made a strong guy, slapped some points into charm and music with a very flimsy reason (He was a trickster at home?) and called it a day. Nick is much more set up to act as the comic relief thief character instead of the party face, but as far as the rest of the party goes, he's the most set up for it. Your character as a party face makes zero sense. He's a giant bear in armor? He's amazingly persuasive and can play music wonderfully because he used to be a 'trickster' at home? What does that even mean?Honestly man, your character just doesn't make much sense. The way you roleplay him makes him much, much more of a strong guy or backup character instead of a party face. Nick isn't a great one as far as characters go (Although I think Sverd plays him quite well), but you are just a nonsensical face.
>>36666898>Maybe I should have played a girl...>with Nick in the party>Nick, with that immature attitude that needs to be reined in by lovely sensible womanI've never encountered an intraparty romance before, but from what I've heard around here it can get pretty weird.>>36666944Should've let on what he was up to then. Poor communication kills, after all.
>>36666898>>36667144Gonna have to agree with this guy in that nanuk tanuk dinduk or whatever his name is really doesn't fit the 'party face' role at all (fluff-wise and roleplay-wise) while nick is pretty good at it. You guys would really want some kind of goldenhearted singer for an actual party face - Hannah springs to mind about this but you'd probably want it to be a male because i doubt that having an attractive female in the party around nick would end out well, even with a stronk native american girl to stop him from being a total douche.
>36667210>nanuk tanuk dindukKek.
>>36660577I know. I was listing Up for the sake of comprehensiveness, since the majority of the film takes place at least post-1977.>>36661128That was the point. Unless you want to have Empress Darla, Ruler of Oceania, and her hordes of Cthonic Anglerfish and Rehabilitated Sharks, and Anton Ego, the Consuming Lord of All France, ruling through his brutal enforcer Chef Skinner... yeah, the Modern Splat is going to be mostly 'Murrican.
>>36667210>nanuk tanuk dinduk
>>36667343>Unless you want to have Empress Darla, Ruler of Oceania, and her hordes of Cthonic Anglerfish and Rehabilitated Sharks, and Anton Ego, the Consuming Lord of All France, ruling through his brutal enforcer Chef Skinner...Sounds pretty based to me.
>>36667210>>36667144Feel free to set up your own campaign, play in it, and do whatever your heart desires. Nanuk's fluff was really rushed, but please don't try to reconfigure the party after reading through a half-session because you decided that you know best. While I am open to anything up to and including re-rolling my character in the campaign if things aren't working, that isn't up to the thread as a whole, it's up to me, the other players in the campaign, and Nob, the GM of the campaign, not any and all anons on the thread who think that their party makeup would be better.
>>36667539you seem bottom befuddledTry not getting mad at suggestions
>>36667539You know, they have a point. Sir Bearington was only noteworthy because he did what he did in a system where it was actually impressive.
>>36668005From where I stand, these aren't suggestions. A suggestion would be something interesting to do to his fluff, or something else actually constructive, as opposed to "You're a shitty party face.">>36668218I'd gladly reroll at this point, as I have no love left for the character (it went in a really dumb direction unintentionally), if it would fit the story. That being said, I only ever made him because I made a joke race variant and wanted to try it out. I have to go now, but fine. I'll scrap him and make a new sheet when I get home and he can just go wander off to the desert or something and I can make a good charming guy if Nob lets me reroll.
>>36668005>>36668218>>36668355Just calm down. We can talk about it at the next session.
>>36664723>Not wanting Jesus in your partyDude gets free revives and is like a superpriest + demigodWhy would you NOT want him in your party.Plus he's gotta be like the chillest dude ever.I'm talking mega-stoner levels chilled.
>>36668523>mega-stonerHe'd never get anything done, though. The party would have to leave him behind.
>>36668523He was fucking insane, if you've read the bible. He blew up a tree because it wasn't giving him figs.figs weren't even in season.
Uh, okay, so how about we all get some work done.I'm assuming somebody else is statting up Frollo, so I think I'll try to stat up Rourke.Not particularly powerful, but pretty damn good for a human. Mostly broken-as-fuck equipment to rely on, right? He's strong and with the atlantean crystals I don't think he aged badly, so I can see him being a respectable fighter by himself, but against the PCs, you know he's gonna bring out the tanks.
>>36668585What the hell do figs even taste like anyways? I've heard them come up so many times in fiction but their taste has never been described.
>>36668681Does anyone recall what the exact numbers were on Schrodinger's Toolbox?
>>36668713Ah, shit, meant to link to>>36668635
>>36668713>>36668749What was that skill, again? Rourke could produce any sort of equipment that the situation required up to five times or something?
>>36668822He had a number of points (which increased with the size of the party) that he could spend on unspecified equipment to pull out of his ass at any time he wished.
>>36664786Not to really reignite this argument, and this is way back, but I thought the reason Africans never really developed like other civilizations, such as Europe, is because they really have shit resources and land.I mean Africa is what? 60-70% desert, which have pretty much nothing except rocks, sand, grass, and soft wood. Plus little rain for no agriculture. Then there's also the jungles, which are arguably more useful, but filled with so many things to fuck you up, along with just a shitton of trees and mud, and litte metal resources, like iron or bronze except gold, which is soft as shit, so they don't really have anything to cut the useful trees with.Finally, the more livable places, like the coasts, were the hotspots for slave trade. (I think)Of course I could be really, really, wrong about all of this and making myself look like a retard.
>>36660922I've fixed the introductory list, and added their full names wherever applicable.
>>36665399>Constantine XIFuck yeah, that man was the tits
>>36669184Fug off Diamondman
>>36668573>let he who is without sin be the first to get stoned
Okay, down to the powers and equipment. The Toolbox was a power, right?
>>36668573>>36669471History 100% supports the idea that Jesus was a stoner.1d4chan still down. So is piratebay, but that has nothing to do with this.
>>36669408Well fugI never said anything about knowing Africa, so I figured I'd get a lot of stuff wrong.I still think the lack of good land for agriculture is a factor though.
>>36669540And the shit resources part, which I'm probably wrong about too.
>>36669575>>36669540>>36669408>>36669184Please don't bring this back. You're not going to beat /pol/; even if they are wrong, they've rehearsed this and you haven't. Talk Disney.
Got 1d4chan working and added Frollo.
>>36669408How about this?>There's a fuck huge desert and a fuck huge rain forest cutting through the continent>The civilizations that did develop, especially in west and south Africa did not have the benefit of a connected network of civilizations Like north and east Africa (also apparently Coptic is not African anymore. How the hell do you justify that?)>Environmental pressures of rain forests encourage small hunter/gatherer and subsistence farming populations, especially if there is limited contact with other peoples (also see: amazon rain forest, papa new guinea).Also it should be noted that voodoo is heavily derived from west african paganism. It also just so happens to be a major thematic source for one of the largest factions on America in DVV
>>36669695Kings left to stat:Queen La of the Leopard KingdomEmpress Yzma of the Sunless EmpireGeneral Santa Anna of the Empire of MexicoImperial President Lyle Tiberius Rourke of the Imperial Republic of AtlantisThe Huntsmen of the Elite Global Huntsman Club (Muntz, Clayton, Gaston, McLeach, Buldeo, Amos Slade, King Fergus)Chairman Cutler Beckett of the East India Trading Co.King Louis of the Kingdom of the Red FlowerKing Ratigan of the Under-EmpireLook at how few there are left. Especially when you close your eyes and pretend the Huntsmen don't exist.
>>36669702I don't want to bring this back up but Coptics really aren't African. At all.
>>366695101d4chan's up for me.
Please remember to archive the thread if you think it's had something worth contributing to the project.
Okay guys, I think--Bump limited reached? I'll post Rourke in the next thread, then.I need powers, anybody can contribute here?Also, if someone could find me the stats for the Schrodinger's Toolbox I would greatly appreciate it.
>>36669835Remember that he's a strong military man, but only mortal. His real strength should lie in superior tactics, arms, being well-prepared and tactical mooks. He should be able to call in mooks and lackeys.
>>36659110Shit, I didn't realize that Kaa got Christopher Robin. But Christopher's origins could be the key to stopping him.
>>36669835I actually came up with Schrodinger's Toolbox and forgot what I made it. I can look for it later, but I think it was 15+5X (X=Players).
>>36669885Well, yeah, but what are those numbers? How many times he can pull a weapon out of his ass?Also, was it a power, or an equipment?
>>36670108>How many times he can pull a weapon out of his ass?literally forever
Should I archive it?
>>36670241Eh, well, we've been archiving threads for this long, why not? Put it in
>>36670241Yes. There was a bunch of anger and arguments but there was some good stuff peppered in.
>>36670241Always archive, if possible.
>>36670261>>36670273>>36670275Archiving the thread then!
>>36670108The power was how many items he could pull out of his ass. As in, he had 15+5X (X=Players) worth of Equipment at all times. If he had a +4 RPG and used it up in one scene, he could pull out another at a later date from the same EQ pool without running out. If he were to somehow lose all of his EQ, he would be at a severe disadvantage in combat.I'm no game design genius and I have to go to bed early and study. G'night everybody.
>>36670338>Disney Villains Victorious LI>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+VictoriousDone!
we need a new thread, guys.
New thread when?
>>36664841>egypt isn't in Africahow about Zulu's then?