Welcome to the XLVI installment of "Disney Villains Victorious."Disney Villains Victorious is a new /tg/ homebrew project based on the idea of a world, not entirely unlike our own, in which all the villains from all the Disney animated feature films were not defeated at the ends of their movies but were instead victorious, completing their goals in part or in whole.It is a world in which Ursula rules the seas, defied only by the uncatchable Pirate Lords, the cutthroat merchants of the East India Trading Company and the might of Atlantis and its magitech-toting mercenaries. It is a world where the grasslands and jungles and forests are prowled not only by fearsome primal beasts like Shere Kahn and Scar but also by the ruthless, tireless hunters that stalk them. It is a world where Europe has been divvied up between evil sorcerous monarchs like Maleficent, the Horned King, Grimhilde and Jafar, mad, inquisitorial clergymen like Frollo, and Dark Gods like Hades and Chernobog.It is not, however, a world completely devoid of courage, heroism or hope. Around the world, the PCs' characters and their allies plot and plan, fight and strive and win their own victories against the villains that would rule them. The time to fight and to be free is now.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorioushttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious
King/Land/Rule: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_K/L/RsAdventurer's Almanac: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kI-I-ClcaZc4YPFQzmExOxfqzHAsLOkqLnKufm9Ty5c/edit?pli=1Setting Traits: http://pastebin.com/8RRbwMQTBeast Species: http://pastebin.com/PwVr9VeT (Probably a bit out of date, should move to 1d4chan if we're agreed on the stats)TRAITS: http://pastebin.com/TJXncd7APOWERS:http://pastebin.com/pQDDqisUFluff Catalogue: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qj_IIuF_rqh_F2L-SeYn-dBiwDTtwWFpnbcXyfcgeE8/editSong Catalogue: (google doc) 1oQniqbLaTCF7V19fnXP0_zUW7GFr3ESziGM6U5mEcC0/editRumour Mill: (google doc) 17CzFrAblibwD__7sEYorqXSz4ILYVp1O4tcQ-mGyYiI/edit?usp=sharingVillain Immortality: http://pastebin.com/kA1wsUzVNational Anthems: http://pastebin.com/Gd9rETxbChimera Races: http://pastebin.com/B8SkUwWB (Out of date, needs to be updated)First Playtest: http://pastebin.com/Vy1E0sHBSecond playtest:http://pastebin.com/qE1kW0YYThird playtest: http://pastebin.com/sWj8Y87vFourth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/SHieN5zLFifth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/TGctR8VAGoogle doc for character creation:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m8XSm73Ea4ECdDdP9V4IVJCEBji6HPw43LRPyUCDmx4/edit?usp=sharingPlaytests are hosted here; https://app.roll20.net/join/585117/yX0x1wMagic IRC is hosted on Mibbit, network is AsyloIRC, room is #DVVmagicPoll: How hard should it be to kill the Horned King?http://strawpoll.me/3094209Experimental new rules for Yzmic Chimeras http://pastebin.com/p2QaTaiB
>>36492521Christ, shows me right for not properly checking the OP post; the Horned King poll is still in there. Just ignore that, I guess.Anyway, the only KLR we still need done is Queen La's, then we're on to statting out the Villains and Kings? How many Villains should each King get? So far we're working with an average of four, but that could change. Should all Villains be powerful individuals or are some just managers and generals with great social influence?
>>36492562Making some with great social influence seems legit enough; after all, social situations are a huge part of the system
>>36492521Experimental BEE KNIGHT rules: Hive Knight:Size: Medium!Natural weapons: Stingers provide +2 to BrawlRacial Traits:HoneyHoneyHooney, Honey!: When those other fuckers are sleeping, you are producing sweet delicious honey. Honey can be used to reduce an enemies Agility by 2, or restore two Strikes. Ursine characters suffer -4 Agility from the honey. One Honey stack is produced once per day. Stacks up to 5 stacks at Zero, increasing to 10 at On-A-Roll and 15 at Hero. Excess honey must be either sold, used, or discarded immediately.Flight: Each piece of armor can be disassembled quickly. The bees carry the armor, and you can take to the motherfucking skies as a bee cloud.Drones: Can send out little flying fuckers to gather information or pick up small objects. These lil fuckers are dumb, but can report back to you so long as they don't have to make any decisions on the way. They get +2 to stealth, and an additional +2 against humans, on account of being all tiny and shitAmorphous: +2 to Prevent HarmAttributes: +2 Robustness, +2 Intelligence, -2 AgilityBug Type: take a -2 penalty against fire damageExperimental Hedgehog Rules:Size: SmallNatural weapons: Claws and Spines provide +2 to Brawl. Racial Traits:Prickly/IT HURTS MY HANDS: All damage taken from Brawl attacks is also reflected back at the attacker.Rollin' Around: You can spend a Will point to go into Ball mode for your next two turns. Ball Mode grants +2 Robustness and Agility.Can be picked up and thrown like a Ranged Weapon in this form.Nocturnal: -1 Sensibility during the day, +2 Sensibility during the night.Attribute Bonuses: +2 Agility, -2 Robustness, +2 Intelligence>>36492562Yes, Queen La is the only one still missing.I'd say 3-5 per King as a sample.Dunno, if they're just managers and generals without anything special going for them we could stat them with Inner Circle rules.
>>36492562I imagine some like the Horned King's Villains would just be powerful individuals and generals, while the Villains for lands that people actually live in, like Frollo's, probably have social influence. Like, I'm pretty sure the public won't like the party for killing what's pretty much considered a superhero for them, but the few people living in the Horned King's land probably would celebrate if MR. BONES died since he was a dude that was feared by a lot of people.
>>36492792Yeah. If you watch the movie, whenever the guy was walking around, everyone seemed to be shitting themselves.
Alright folks, I tried my hand at Maleficent.I am not too sure about it, but tell me what you all thinkName: Maleficent, Fae Mistress of EvilRole: SmartClass: Fey SorceressCountry of Origin: The Kingdom of ThornsSize: MediumSpecies: FairyTier: Hero---Attributes---Robustness: 8Agility: 10Intelligence: 22Sensibility: 15Charm: 15Will: 3/3Strikes 10 +X3 where X is the number of members in the party---Skills---Ranged: 8Prevent Harm: 12Endure: 9Stealth: 7Persuasion: 9Intimidate: 10Occult: 14(15)Insight: 9Linguistics: 7Will: 7/7---Traits---Fair FolkAny physical combat rolls against this character that does not use Fire or Cold Iron gain a -4 Penalty. If Cold Iron or Fire are used, the attack roll obtains a +5 bonus. Physical Strikes dealt with Fire or Cold Iron weapons count double. Social Strikes dealt by speaking her True Name count triple.Laws of the FeyThis unit cannot tell a lie (distorting the truth is fair game). +3 to Persuasion.KingThis unit is a KING. It gets +10 to Persuade and/or Intimidate its servants to do anything if opposed in some way, and can automatically make them obey if nobody is trying to incite rebellion among them.
>>36493204---Powers----TeleportationThis unit can freely appear in any point inside her territory if it is not protected in some way-Overwhelming MagicThis unit can use Occult + Intelligence + Ranged to deal magical damage.-Ethereal ConjurationSpend a Will Point. Maleficent can conjure a hazard or obstacle in the terrain. (A barrier of thorns, a wall of fire, etc.)-Change of FormSpend a Will Point; Maleficent can transform herself in a humongous Dragon. (DRAGON FORM: Giant size“Fair Folk” becomes Inactive“Overwhelming Magic” becomes inactive+10 to Robustness+8 to Agility-5 to CharmBrawl: 8Stealth: 0Intimidate: 15Other skills maintainedObtain “Scales”: +5 to Prevent Harm rolls when using RobustnessObtain “Claws” and “Fangs”: +2 to Brawl rollsObtain “Flight”Obtain “Fire Breath”: Deal Fire damage using Occult+Robustness+RangedStrikes: Add +5 Strikes to the remaining amount)---Equipment---Magical Staff: +5 to all acts of magic
>>36493204Laws of the Fey makes Deceit useless, by the way, in case it wasn't clear. No penalties to something you can't do at all
>>36493231Occult+Ranged+Intelligence is a bit weird of a combat roll, but it works given her lore. Overall, I think she needs a bit more Protect Harm since she's only at +22 at the moment, but otherwise it looks good.
Hey everyone, checking in again. I hope all of our US content creators, playtesters, and writers have been having a nice Thanksgiving weekend and snagged some sweet deals online or at the mall.Got another chapter primed for those interested. It's longer than previous installments, but I hope it's enjoyable. Any takers?
Right, I'm here now. Adding Maleficent v1 to wiki.
>>36493460When do we ever not want OC?
>>36493465Sorry, Kaa statter here. Do you mind updating his Prevent Harm to 11 and changing his Melee to Brawl 10? He's meant to be on the squishy side but he's a little too much so right now. Christopher Robin also needs adding, but I'm not sure which category he goes under.
>>36494064Yup, will do. Anyone can edit the wiki, though.
>>36493803Alrightey then! I'll be dumping the first and maybe second parts of this chapter right now, then after a bit of a break hit the third part. As always, pastebin link will come at the end.--“It’s over here! Right this way!” Anna shouted over her shoulder to the trailing squad. “It’s not much, but it’ll be a lot better than trying to face nightfall in the wilderness.”“‘Any port in a storm’, as the saying goes,” Catherine quipped. The trading post looked to have more in common with a log cabin than a general store. The store was kept in splendid condition, compared to the abandoned town. The thick wooden door stood in front of a wide veranda, stretching from one corner of the general store’s front across. Warm yellow light emanating from the windows betrayed the oil lamps within. Thick, gray smoke billowed into the frigid air from a stone chimney jutting from the center of the structure. A collection of caribou, moose, and deer antlers adorned the entrance, interspersed with wolf skulls. Thach noted the fox and wolf pelts hanging from the trading post’s sides as the squad closed in.“Wandering Oaken’s Trading Post.” Womack read the wood-carved sign that hung proudly over the entrance. “And Sauna?” He furrowed his brow at the tacked-on, smaller sign.“Oh nice, a creepy cabin in the woods,” Zoe sighed. “I know how this story ends.”
>>36494777“As long as it’s warm, it could be a fucking abbatoir and I’d still go in.” Kavita pushed ahead of the group and entered right after Anna swung the door open.The trading post’s interior looked dated, but pleasant. Part tourist trap, part general store, the goods making up the trading post’s wares had certainly seen better days. More pelts and antler sets graced the walls, packed between ski sets and snowshoes. Shelves proudly displayed pickled perch and pike. Moose and caribou jerky were kept in loose strips on other shelves. Hammers, picks, saws, and rope occupied most of the remaining free space not taken by stores shelves or animal parts. Kavita gawked at the odd display of kitsch and practicality around her. She moved to run a hand over a thick grey wolf pelt adorning the wall when a “Hoo, hoo~” came from her right. Kavita swung her body in the direction of the voice, left hand reflexively cross-drawing for the pistol on her right hip.
>>36494816He was tall—that much Kavita could figure from a single look. The man was built like a slab of rock, his frame broad and padded with fat, showing a lifetime of hard labor in the wintry haven. The man’s handlebar moustache continued past his rosy cheeks and linked up with bushy sideburns. Frazzled flax-blond hair was kept hidden under a comically small, cylindrical hat. The hat was the same mishmash of colors as the thick sweater that covered the man’s frame, a mess of blue, green, and orange. His mouth was spread into a wide grin, fat fingers steepled in front of him. “Nice break in de storm we’ve had over de past few days, yah?” His voice, surprising to Kavita, was light, sing-song in tone.The Indian girl brushed a loose strand of hair from her eyes. “Um...” she trailed off, taking her hand off the grip of her pistol. “I wouldn’t know. I’m not from here.”“Oooooh, visitors?” The man clapped his hands together. “Been awhile since we’ve had any. Last group to come through here said they were from de Church.” The man chuckled.
>>36494855“The Church...?” Kavita cupped her chin in thought. She had heard of the Grand Archdiocese’s so-called “crusades” into the lands of those they considered heretics. The squads were ruthless in their execution, leaving naught for their enemies but ashes and salted earth. The Kolkata native regarded the Inquisitorial kill-teams as pious pyromaniacs, backwards zealots that would sooner put the torch to an entire village for the sins of a single man than attempt a fair trial.The man cleared his throat, throwing Kavita from her introspection. “So I noticed you were perusing our selection of pelts!” The man smiled a jovial smile. “All the pelts are from animals personally caught and skinned by my family—the wolf furs are the wife’s favorite. Useful to drape around chairs, beds, or yourself! It’s fifteen for the wolf pelts, twenty-five for foxes.”The ice statue moved through the door next, waving to the large man. “Hiya, Oaken!”“Hoo-hoo! Good to see you again, Anna!” The man waved back. “Is the woman over dere your friend?”“Oh, definitely!” Anna grabbed hold of the Indian woman. “Kavita, this is Oaken—Oaken, Kavita.”“Um...hi?” Kavita gave a pained smile, extending her hand.“Pleased to make your acquaintance, Kavita!” The man shook Kavita’s hand vigorously. “Wait—you know this man?” Kavita asked.
>>36494892“Well duh—it’s kinda hard to live around here without knowing the handful of people who could willingly talk back!” Anna flapped her hand at Kavita. “On my first trip up the mountain, Oaken was the one who outfitted me for the journey—and lemme tell you, their Winter department was /nothing/ like how it looks right now.”“So—what brings you to our neck of the woods?” Oaken asked the Indian woman.“I believe I can answer that question for you, sir.” The squadleader stepped through the doorway, running a hand through her auburn curls. “Captain Allyson Thach, Eight Atlantean Expeditionary Unit. I’m the leader of this venture and Kavita’s superior.” Allyson held out her hand. “Oaken, I presume?”“Yes, ma’am—owner of this trading post and sauna.” Oaken firmly shook the captain’s hand. “My family has served this cabin for generations.”“Charming.” Thach cleared her throat. “Anna said you could maybe give us lodging for the night. We’re heading up the North Mountain to talk with Queen Elsa.”“Nothing too sinister, I hope.” Oaken frowned.“Trade proposals, actually.” Catherine stepped forward, jar of pickled pike in hand. “Trade proposals that, should your queen accept, would prove quite profitable for both our countries.”“Now about that lodging...?” Thach licked her lips.“Vell, it’s not much, but the stables are available. Haven’t had much company, but we’ve kept them clean and stocked with fresh hay.”
>>36494927“My men will take whatever you can give, sir.” Thach produced a handful of Atlantean silver and deposited it on the store counter. As Oaken pondered the odd coinage on his counter the squad found their way to the stables. True to Oaken’s word, they had been kept clean. “We bunkin’ here for the night, Cap?” Zeke said, dropping his pack.“At least it’s dry,” Womack shrugged, lighting an oil lamp to brighten up the interior. As Zoe set down her rifle by the stable wall, she noticed the Atlantean emissary attempting to find a comfortable spot in a pile of hay. “You gonna be okay there, Miss Beckett?” She asked.“Oh don’t worry about me, Miss Martin.” Catherine said, shuffling about. “I’ve experienced my fair share of uncomfortable bedding-- a little bit of hay and a roof is a blessing compared to being eaten alive by insects in South America.”“You’ve been to South America?” Kavita settled into a corner formed by several stacked hay bales. “Oh yes,” the emissary nodded. “The expedition’s objective originally was to begin trade negotiations with Queen Yzma.”“Is it true what they say about the sun?” Zoe quipped. “That it’s blocked out by a gigantic stone with a scribble of Yzma’s haggard face perpetually staring down at you?”
>>36493204>>36493231>doesn't need to spend a will point to blast the PCs with magicYou've done well. I've noticed that the Fire Breath is 4 less than her Overwhelming Magic (9 when you consider the staff) and doesn't inflict Burning; also, her dragon form doesn't have some renamed 'free intimdate check against everyone once per turn' power. Those are the only things I'd change. That and none of her powers or traits are named "ALL THE POWERS OF HELL!"
>>36494980“Very much so.” Catherine chuckled. “Several times we found ourselves running from the malevolent spawn of that jungle. There were swarms of ants that blanketed entire sections of the forest, moving as a single unit. Spiders as large as grown men had built colonies reaching up to the tree-tops, the desiccated remains of their previous meals hanging limply in web sacks. The insects weren’t the worst of it, though: the crocodiles and constrictors were infinitely worse—as big as dinosaurs, the both of them! And the gators? They hunted in packs!”“Like wolves?” Zeke asked.“Exactly like wolves—wolves that were thirty feet long and thick-skinned enough to withstand low-power lightning shots.” Catherine took a drink from her canteen before continuing. “We lost a couple guys to the gators, and couple more to the snakes. Constrictors, they were—could easily snap a man’s body after coiling around them. There was this one time where we were able to witness a pack of these gators attempting to fight a constrictor—it was like something out of a pulp mag!”“Did you ever get to see The Mad Empress in her terrible glory?” Womack said.
>>36495031“We did—well, we almost did,” Catherine said. “After maybe three weeks of roughing it through the absolute worst jungle I had ever had the pleasure of pathfinding, we arrived at the Empress’ palace. It’s about what you would expect from a crazy old windbag with power—solid gold, images of the Empress’ face everywhere, everyone in the town below struggling to make a living if they’re not already eating anyone or anything else that moves. Anyway—we’re led by this...not-so-bright fellow named Kronk. Big guy, just didn’t have the brains to match his brawn. Kronk leads us to this antechamber and tells us to ‘please wait’ as the Empress was busy attending to other affairs. Now the head of our security detail, Captain Thomas Hutch, was eaten on the way up the mountain by a mutant vulture...chinchilla...thing. The ones in the antechamber were me, the acting security team leader Lieutenant Agdena-loka’an Foramashto—you might know him as ‘Loka’—, two other squad members from an originally seven-strong security team, and a well-meaning commoner known as Pacha, who guided us on our final leg up the mountain after our first two guides who were overwhelmed by a swarm of ants and ripped apart by a pack of alligators, respectively. Now Loka—he was full Atlantean, if the name didn’t give it away. He already knew something wasn’t right—wasn’t afraid to let it be known, too. He promptly said we were probably gonna die here, either zapped by magic or fed to her playthings.”
>>36495071“Playthings?” Kavita asked.“There are stories traded around that the empress experiments on the malcontents of her empire,” Bernadette said, running a gloved hand through her brunette hair. “Keeps them around as trophies—living monuments to her scientific prowess.”“Quite,” Catherine replied. “And then the floor fell out. The first thought running through my head is we’re about to fall into a pit of spikes or splash into a pit filled with more of those Mega Gators. As it happens, we found ourselves jutting down this enormous slide like logs in a flume! I’m not sure how long we are falling up down, and rolling through loops and spirals before we’re deposited right at the gates of the golden palace.”“Wrong lever.” Pan surmised, nodding.“Needless to say, we didn’t want to tempt Fortune twice. We struck out for the coast, hounded every waking moment by hordes of Yzma’s experiments. We blasted our way through undergrowth, villages, and narrow mountain passes, all the while hounded by these abominations. Some looked like misshapen humans; others looked like the brainchildren of Doctor Moreau himself. Our salvation came in the form of a commandeered garbage scow—we rode that thing straight to the Panama Canal and into the arms of friendly Atlanteans.”Zoe chuckled. “Well that certainly explains Loka’s hatred of snakes.”“That’s incredible!” Anna clamored. “Like something out of a fairy tale! Could you maybe tell us another tale?”
Going to try Kaa's Villains and finish up his Kingdom, maybe do one of the other Beast Kings afterwards. Imagine it's been a few years and this guy's all grown-up now.Name: General Hathi Jr.Role: Villain/Strong GuyClass: Enthralled ElephantCountry of Origin: Subjugate of KaaSize: LargeSpecies: Elephant---Attributes---Robustness: 15Agility: 12Intelligence: 7Sensibility: 5Charm: 1Will: 3/3Strikes: 3+X2, where X is the number of party members.---Skills---Athletics: 4Intimidate: 7Brawl: 9 Travel: 6Music: 2Prevent Harm: 8 ---Traits----Charge of the Light Brigade When charging into odds that are certain death, or at least near-certain death, you may spend a will point. Gain a +5 bonus to all rolls for the next scene as long as your life is in danger.-An Elephant Never Forgets +2 to all Science, Occult, Academia, or Insight rolls to remember something that you know.-Natural Weapons Tusks, Smash provide +2 to Brawl rolls..-VillainThis unit is a Villain. It gets +2 to Prevent Harm and Endurance.-EnthralledThis unit is under the mental influence of another entity and is considered one of their subjects; it is immune to non-magical mental effects that would alter its allegiance, and receives a +3 bonus on any checks that would give it the means to fulfill one of its master’s commands.---Powers----ATTEN-SHUN! (Unique!)Spend a Will Point: All characters within ear range immediately have their attention drawn to this unit, provided doing so would not directly endanger their life. In this unit's King is adjacent or nearby, this counts as directing attention towards them as well.-Zealous ChampionPick a cause. You cannot be dissuaded from your cause by Illusions or social skills unless the other party spends a heart point. On a scale of one to ten how terrible would it be to make a Pooh for the heroes to fight against.
>>36495085“Maybe another night, Miss Beckett.” Thach said.“Awwwwww.” Anna pouted.“We’d appreciate it though, Anna, if you could take watch outside. Pan, you’re with me on first watch. G’night, everybody.”--We'll be taking a break here, partially because I have other errands to attend to but also because I had no idea that the first chunk of this installment was that long.
>>36495122Woah man, hold the fuck up, your using the old Villain rules, the bad ones. Check the Villains and Kings page on the wiki to see better examples.
>>36495251Wait, hold on actually, your traits and powers are fine, maybe another power, maybe not, but anyways the attributes need another 10 points, and the number of Strikes needs to be increased to 9+X2.
For Kings, do we want strike totals to be in the mX+b format that we use for villains, or a single total?
>>36495898Generally speaking we've used mX+B, with B being 10 on the low end and ~20 on the highest we've seen.
>>36495907Should we change Elsa and Facilier to use mX+B?
>>36495129Alright, back again. Time to finish this up!--The dawn’s first rays played across the Bellerophon’s hull, casting long shadows on the ice as she sat in the ice-covered harbor. The light scattered as it hit the bridge, manned by a skeleton crew that would soon circulate out as the morning wore on. The access ramps extending from the submersible’s side met clearly defined roads, worn out paths that just the other day were being scouted out. Jeeps and supply trucks filed in and out of the sub at a constant pace, shipping out food, construction materials, and artillery guns while bringing in various curios, relics, and the occasional victim of mild frostbite.
>>36496005The city of Arendelle, for the first time in many years, had its streets filled with activity. Soldiers filed in and out of the houses and shops that lined the streets, many having been converted into base buildings, ranging from barracks to equipment storage to kitchens. Sandbag roadblocks were starting to be built across some of the more narrow streets, engineering crews hefting over hedgehogs and concertina wire off swollen supply trucks. The main entrances to the city were turned into a patchwork of lightning blaster nests, sniper posts, and roadblocks. In the town square, the skeletal form of a radio tower was hastily erected. Artillery guns, towed across the harbor, sat in a quaint line outside the town, facing the mountains. Armored bulldozers began making their first forays past the town, attempting to carve out roads further inland.Admiral Swearengen observed the goings-on from the comfort of the Bellerophon’s bridge, bringing a white porcelain mug to his lips. Normally, the mug would contain black coffee, sweetened with cane sugar and mixed with a small measure of Bushmills from the Admiral’s private reserve. This morning, he chose for something different: hot chocolate, thick as porridge and mildly bitter. He idly stirred the mixture with a fragment of a churro as an attendant walked in behind him. The admiral took a sidelong glance. “Ahh, Miss Hadley.” He nodded. “Good morning.”
>>36496034“Good morning to you too, sir.” The attendant gave a short salute.“Have you tried the hot chocolate yet, Genevieve?” Swearengen took another sip. “Damn fine alternative to the watered-down mess they call coffee on this ship.”“I, uh, honestly hadn’t, sir.” Bonnie scratched her cheek.“I recommend it, Hadley.” The man turned to face the young woman, stroking his moustache. “So, what news from overnight?”“Nothing much, sir.” The girl produced a folder that had been tucked under her elbow, opening it and sifting through the papers within. “Construction has been going ahead of schedule. The communications tower was erected last night, and power generators are being constructed as we speak. Approximately half of our troop detachment is in the town, identifying chokepoints and fortifying structures. Engineering is seeing to the defense works and is starting to clear paths out of town and into the wilderness.”“Progress on that front?”“Slow—combat engineer teams have been reporting they’ve had to blast through some parts where the snow had become packed together and frozen into ice.”“Troublesome.” The admiral took a bite from the chocolate-soaked churro. “Anything from our away teams?”“Other than checking in this morning before starting again, no sir.”
>>36496052“Good, good,” the Admiral said. “Weather reports?”“There’s a storm system moving south—heavy snow, thunder and lightning are also a possibility. We’ll be in the clear for maybe another day, but anything after that is a toss-up. No clue on severity or duration, but it doesn’t look good either way.”“Got it. Thank you, Hadley.” Swearengen looked to the mountains framing the town, frowning. “I’d really hate to be going into the middle of that mess.”–It wasn’t until the next day morning that the climb up the mountain began in earnest. The pines and birches of the forest began to look more and more windswept as Thach’s squad pushed higher and higher. The air seemed to take on a hint of malevolence, the cold adding a biting harshness. Thach turned her gaze upwards. Grey clouds, seething and thick, rolled past. Lightning danced across the overhead sea. Centered in the middle of the morose skyscape was the North Mountain, its hoary peak breaking through the cloud cover like a ship’s bowsprit through a fog bank.
>>36496078“Doesn’t look too good, does it?” Thach’s radiowoman came up beside her.“If I were a guy down in town, I’d be thinking I’d really hate to be the guys going up that thing,” Thach said.“So what does that make us?” Bernadette turned to her squadleader, smirking.Thach chuckled, starting to walk. “A buncha damn fools on a noble mission.”Anna let out a sudden gasp. “Oh my goodness!” She turned to the rest of the squad. “I knew this neck of the woods looked familiar! Oh, we’re so close, too!”Lahey walked up to the statue. “Anna, what are you talking ab—” He was cut off as Anna, grinning and near exploding from excitement, dashed ahead. “Anna!?” Zeke took off at a spring to catch the former princess.“Wait, Zeke!” Catherine shouted. “Anna—come back! You’re our guide!” Catherine bolted after the medic.“Oh for God’s sake, Zeke!” Kavita groaned, turning to the heavy weapon specialist beside her. “C’mon, Pan! Let’s catch those two idiots before they gets into trouble!” Pan only gave a nod before the pair gave chase.Thach sighed, turning her stroll into a slow jog. “Christ dammit,” she muttered.“Like herding cats, eh?” Womack piped up from behind her, grinning.“Like herding cats,” Thach repeated.“Place your bets now: Anna might just be leading us into a trap,” Zoe quipped from ahead of Thach.“Keep your guns up, then,” Thach said. “Be ready for anything.”
>>36496129The forest of pines dissipated into a large, wide clearing. The centerpiece of the clearing was a cascading waterfall spilling out into a small pool, both having long since frozen over. Willow trees graced the banks of the pool and sprung up intermittently around the clearing, ice forming over the slender leaves and leaving them shimmering like specks of dew.What caught the squad’s attention, however, were the statues that dotted every part of the clearing. They were under the willows, posed by the pool, and by the banks of the waterfall. They appeared in valiant poses, frightful repose, and hopeless despair. They were knights and soldiers and messengers. They were a portent of doom.“Tadaaaaa~!” Anna showed off the morbid display to her companions. “Welcome to the Statue Garden!”--And there you have it, the next installment done. Next bit should have some actual combat. Catch ya later!
>>36496208Pastebin link for those interested:http://pastebin.com/dEgManha
>shitposting>burst of content>dead silenceThe life cycles of DVV
>>36496927I'm here, but I'm rewriting a song to fit Oogie Boogie. I'll post it soon.
>>36496927Like the Sprite and the Firebird.
Well, after seeing Sleeping Beauty, I've come to the conclusion that I've been spoiled by the Disney Renaissance. Next to no characterization, very little plot depth, no twists on the original fairy tale.....I'd chalk it up to lack of technology, experience and ambition as opposed to effort, but still, the whole thing felt like a bedtime story dragged out an hour longer than it needed to be.Anyway, I gotta be up in 7 hours. Good night all.
>>36496927I dunno man. It's just born out of spite for the shitposters I guess.
>>36496927It's late m8Give it a while and some content will come back
>>36496927too busy prepping for tuesday's playtest, sorry.
>>36496971Sleeping Beauty's mostly the story of the fairies, anyway. I think halfway through development, the writers all went "jesus christ we can't make this dumb bitch interesting" and then decided to make the movie about a bunch of fairies who kick a dragon's ass.
>>36495010Huh, so it is. Need to buff up the fire breath, yeah. I'll add the characteristics tomorrow and add the intimidate attackAs for "ALL THE POWERS OF HELL", trust me, I tried but I just couldn't figure out a good power/trait for that
>>36497341Burn all remaining Will Points, gain +6 to all stats till end of scene?
>>36497363The end of the scene would be the end of the whole battle, would it not?I love it. It's a Heroic Power, but villanous as shit and juuust a little under the power of goodness. Sounds like disney
Alright, so tomorrow I'm going to try my hand at stating Ursula and Jafar maybe, and fix up MaleficentBut for now, it's late so I'mma fuck off to bed. Good night
Creepy Crawly (to the tune of Topsy Turvy from Hunchback)CROWDOh crap! He's here!Seal the windows, lift the rugs,Fill the floorboard holes with plugs!Oh crap! He's here!Empty out your jars and jugs,Cover up the cups and mugs,It's that awful day of...OOGIE BOOGIEBugs! (laugh)Once a year, ol' Oogie Boogie comes to town,Once a year, my bugs come up from underground,Anything that slithers, crawls or skitters 'round,Once again it's Creepy Crawly Day!It's the day I give the jitters out in heaps!It's the day you're guaranteed to get the creeps!Everything is creepy crawly on my day of bugs!CROWDCreepy crawly!OOGIEArthropods of every color!CROWDCreepy crawly!OOGIEHere to snatch your bottom dollar!Bingo, craps, roulette for you to play!Throw your cash at Creepy Crawly Day!CROWDCreepy crawly!OOGIESerpents open up their gullets,CROWDCreepy crawly!OOGIEFeeding on your fattened wallets!Cross your fingers, pray that you won't pay!Lose yourself to gambler's follyIn this slimy carnivale,Serves you right on Creepy Crawly Day!That's right! I'm here!Who would like to try their luck?You could win an easy buck!That's right! I'm here!Don't be just another schmuck,Drag yourself out of the muck!Else you're just a sitting...Duck!(Oogie spews bugs at the nearest passerby)
>>36497753OOGIEHere it is, the moment you've been dreadin' worst!Here it is, the showing that you've always cursed!Now's the time that tickles me until I burst!Now's the time I call the king of bugs!Bigger than a basketball with sixty feet,Thirty eyes and mandibles in search of meat!He's an insect paragon I call the king of bugs!CROWDCreepy crawly!OOGIEPretty soon his happy dronin'CROWDCreepy crawly!OOGIEWill drown out your sorry moanin'.He'd just love a gambler buffet,Fills him up on Creepy Crawly Day!Once a year, ol' Oogie Boogie comes to town,Once a year, my bugs come up from underground,Once a year, the king of bugs will double down,Once a year on Creepy Crawly Day!You'll make up a smorgasbord for insect-kind!All unlucky debtors will be wined and dined!Once a year, the spiders reel inAll the chumps who lost the dealin'Suckin' down the suckers gone astray!So try your hardest not to bust on Creepy Crawly Day!
>>36497771>King of BugsPotentially randomly encountered/event Villain/Powerful Enemy?
>>36497893Kind of made up on the spot, I figured that out of all his bugs, Oogie would be pampering the biggest one like a thoroughbred.
>>36497935Still would be a cool enemy to fight. I'd totally make it so that it inflicts a bunch of status ailments.
I haven't been watching these threads too closely, so forgive me if it's already been discussed, but has there been anything written up about the villain from Tangled, Mother Gothel?She doesn't seem very magical herself, but assuming she keeps Rapunzel locked up, surely having the ability to make people near immortal and heal them from any injury has got to count for something.
>>36498305Not a lot has been written about her, but she's definitely been up to something. Grimhilde has been paying her a very handsome sum in particular to drop by once in a while.
>>36498305>>36498386General consensus was that Gothel roams around peddling eternal youth to whoever needs it.I did a piece in the fluff catalogue about Grimhilde, Gothel and Rapunzel.
stealing Sverd's thunder to post thisKLRs:Queen La of the Kingdom of the LeopardKings left to stat:Sorcerer-Sultan Jafar of AgrabahGrimhilde the Fair Queen of the Mirror KingdomQueen La of the Leopard KingdomEmpress Yzma of the Sunless EmpirePontifex Immortalis Frollo of the Grand ArchdioceseTzekel-Kan of El DoradoGovernor Radcliffe of VirginiaImperial President Lyle Tiberius Rourke of the Imperial Republic of AtlantisThe Huntsmen of the Elite Global Huntsman ClubChairman Cutler Beckett of the East India Trading Co.Hades of OlympiaUrsula of All-OceansThe Aurora of the Spirit RealmScar, High King of the PridelandsKing Louis of the Kingdom of the Red FlowerBagheera, Lord of the Free CreaturesShere Khan of the Shere KhanateMor'du of the Land of the BearKing Ratigan of the Under-Empire
Bad news everyone, I'm afraid the DTP is going to be delayed a day or so. I had an assignment that was due earlier than I had expected, and I haven't had the time to think of the next episode just yet
>>36499552Someone else is going to have to do Queen La's KLR, she's the only one I know little about. Never seen the Tarzan TV show.
>>36499568Fucking nobody has seen the Tarzan TV show.Who even suggested Queen La?
>>36499882They wanted something to fill Africa since it's just the Pridelands and a bit of Jafar's territory otherwise.
>>36499882We didn't want to give all of Africa to Scar and Sabor wasn't exactly prime candidate for a beast queen.
>>36499882>Fucking nobody has seen the Tarzan TV show.I did___[spoier]When I was a kid though so I remember shit about it.
>>36499568I'm sure if we add some details from the books we can cook up something interesting>Lost city deep in the jungle, filled with treasure>Lost colony of Atlantis (with all that comes with it in the Disney universe)>Ruled by a priestess-queen who was kicked out of her tribe for using sorcery to become immortal>Due to inbreeding and magical pollution is inhabited in equal parts by amazons and beastmen>Worship the "Flaming God">Put out stories about the lost treasures of Opar to lure adventurers and have a fresh stream of human sacrificesIn terms of magical powrs La would be a total pushover, just a little hypnosis, polymorphism and druidic magic, so she'd rely more on deception and her fanatical followers.
>>36500075La could probably be weaker than Sabor, actually. It'd add a neat dynamic to them.
>Searching info on La on the Internet>Second result is "Queen La's feet"Oh boy, this is gonna be a wild ride...
>Fans say Queen La is like a female version of Jafar, as well as striking a resemblence to Storm of the X-Men. They also praise her as being one of Disney's more attractive villains.
>>36500227The Disney wiki has... problems.
>>36500099What if the land, though it recognizes Queen La as it's ruler, also recognizes Sabor as a possible candidate. Like 75% of the land is La's but 25% considers Sabor to be the master. This leads to a quarter of the realm being much different from the rest. Animals are even more feral and ferocious, the jungles are so dense only a true predator could pass through.
>>36500099>>36500313There's a lot of rebellion in other lands, but this'd be the first with a full-blown civil war. Could be a good way to make it stand out.
>>36500313>>36500355I'm torn between La and Sabor having an uneasy alliance punctuated by the occasional power struggle and La and Sabor having an awesome womance.
>>36500383But... she's a leopard. Not even one of the talking ones.
>>36500383>>36500355I was thinking more along the lines of this. La is, for the most part, in control of her land. Her and Sabor have an alliance that, while not as close as she'd like them to be, is still pretty tight. However, La has noticed that Sabor's usual hunting grounds have become much different then her own. She knows Sabor could easily overpower her as does the land. The more Sabor opposes her regime, the more the land recognizes her as its rightful leader. The only reason Sabor hasn't capitalized on this is because she herself isn't aware of it.
Years ago I had this same idea, just replace "disney" with "star wars."Though I guess that's disney too, now.
>>36500441That's (maybe) the expansion meng.
>>36500441"First Star on the Right" expansionAll the Disney space and future stuff.
Here's the KLR for Queen La I put up a while back, feel free to edit:King: La's origins are slightly murky. She will tell you that she was simply a girl who was raised by the Leopardmen and 'knows a few tricks.' The surviving tribals will say that she's an evil spirit that has been moving from host to host for generations. Others will look at the body of Queen La, and note her skin tone, eyes, and use of crystals and wonder if Opar was once a sister city to Atlantis. Whatever the truth is, La rules, and La is. She demands that any and all bow to her, and if she has a desire, then it WILL be fulfilled. She does not tolerate rejection, dissent, or failure. That said, she has very little interest as to what happens inside her kingdom, if it doesn't concern her.Land: The Lands of the Leopard could be considered to be the opposite of the Pridelands. Where the Pridelands are overhunted, the Leopard lands run wild with animals, most of them hostile to intruders and each other. Where there is bare earth in Scar's domain, La's realm has vegetation everywhere, and that too can be hostile. The one exception is the Great City of Opar. Where La lives, waited on by her army of Leopardmen. It is a great city of stone and bronze.Rule: La really won't notice if someone has entered into her realm. The one exception being Prideland Lions hunting for food, she views them as 'pests' and loves to turn them into the hunted. La respects strength, she'd actually be impressed if someone was able to fight through her deathtrap of a kingdom and get to Opar. More so if they have a reputation of defeating others that somehow reaches her. Such a person might receive a welcome to be part of her kingdom, her guard, or more. It would not end well if you refused. If she is angered, La will send her army of Leopardmen, and other beasts, after the offender. She's canny though, and people can discover themselves falling to 'accidents' as well.
>>36500695And here's some backstory and her relationship with Sabor:hen notices that there are Prideland Lions and members of the Sultanate scouting around to Opar.They're all pathetic weaklings, and she's afraid of that weakness 'infecting' Opar. So she decides to force them out. She stops her land grab at the edges of the Pirdelands' blight and the Sultunate's settlements, as those lands have already been infected by weakness. Right now, she remains in Opar, making sure that those weaklings don't come into HER jungle and infect it. She also is hoping that one day someone with actual might walks into Opar.The relationship between La and Sabor is like the one between Grimhilde and Gothel. One respects the other, but it's clear who is queen, and who is not. La honors Sabor's strength by letting her have free reign in her kingdom, allowing her first kill, and sending her little messages when Prideland Lions cross into La's jungle. La knows that Sabor likes a good hunt.
Late night bump, next shift of guys will be on soon, I hope.
I have a question that I'm not sure has been addressed in the previous threads. If Ursula is in control of the ocean does it also mean she can disrupt air travel as well seeing as I'm fairly certain she can control the weather? Food for thought.
>>36501738She can create storms, waterspouts and the like but she mostly uses them against ships since pretty much only Atlantis and Captain Hook have aircrafts.
>>36497771WHAT WAS WRIN WITH THE OOGIE BOOGIE SONG!?Also, no mention of Holiday King. Shamefur dispray.
>>36499552Are we not starting Chernbog?
>>36501858Cherrybomb, the Firebird and Aurora (IF we give players the option to fight it/her) are full-on puzzle bosses.
I have something like five threads to catch up on at work since I had to leave for Thanksgiving with the family.
>>36497771>>36497753But we aleady know what Boogies actual goal was: to conquer all of the seven holidays, and then rule over them and celebrate them in his own twisted image
>>36492521Sixth playtest link from the previous thread.http://pastebin.com/8wUw2LegPretty standard test to see how O-a-Roll tier characters handle social situations with a couple of fights at the end starring two pirates, a cowboy, a baseball player and a monkey posing as an english gentleman. Mugging a tax collector to steal his uniform so the monkey can pass for a member of the EITC and leaving him naked in a barrel with some woodcarved porn, boarding your own ship while corrupt dock-workers are stealing it, being engaged in a ship-to-ship battle off the chinese coast, the baseball player homerunning people in the face from 150m and shooting puns that would make Carlos blush and one of the pirates swimming 200m in 3 seconds and killing 50 people with a single punch. Good times.
>>36502586Don't forget breaking a ship in half with one punch and sniping the main mast of the enemy ship from maximum range.Good times.Next playtest is tomorrow at 7:00 PM EST, and will be our final solo playtest; what skills and situations other than Hero tier do we still need tested?
>>36502767So far we've basically never needed travel, academics, linguistics and craft except for one roll to locate the train's position. I personally would like to see something akin to an indiana jones movies with ancient ruins, traps and mysterious hieroglyphs.
>>36500303>>36500227>>36500213It's a problem with fandom, the wiki just reports on it.
>>36503309Isn't it entirely opinion-based, though? It's super subjective at least.
>>36503429If they're just reporting on what other's subjective opinions are, that's objective.
>>36503437Saying 'fans say' instead of 'some fans say' is not objective.Reminder that the next playtest is on Dec 2 at 7:00 pm EST, feel free to join if you want to try it out.
>>36503583True. So what's the scenario? I want to come up with a new character for this.
>>36503635>>36503583I am also interested in participating, though I've been a bit intimidated before now due to my own inexperience and not wanting to things mess up in terms of testing purposes. Do you have a particular scenario in mind for this next test?
>>36503635>>36504180Also, what tier are we playing?
>thread's on page 6>hey maybe I'll write up Oberon and Titania as Fae Kingdom Villains>no idea what powers/traits to give them, what their gimmicks should be>can't bugger off and research it because I got shit to doFUCK
>>36501842As I understood it, Oogie Boogie roams around bringing Bug Day to whoever he likes. So I picked a song about a holiday coming to town.>>36502563All I knew about for Oogie's involvement in this setting was Bug Day.Well, that was a massive failure. All songwriting goes to Sverd from now on.
>>36505662I would never have thought of those two as villains but they make perfect sense in this setting.
>>36505924Well, they did do a fine job of fucking with all the main characters when they showed up in Midsummer Night's Dream. Of course, my only exposure to them was the same work of Shakespeare, and it's been 8 fucking years since then.Maybe they could be two of those rare villains that can be made no longer a threat by talking it out?
>>36506020Oh, I meant that I hadn't thought of them as villains to be included in the DVV setting, not villains in their own works persay. I do think that fae bargaining and shifting alliances with these characters could be worked into a faelands/Briarwoods/kingdom of the thorn campaign quite nicely.
>>36506068Pity they're the only significant mainland fae that come to mind. I would propose boggarts, but they're a British thing.
>>36506856What happened to the british fae by the way? Enslaved? Forced to seek refuge in the kingdom of thorns? Cauldronized?
>>36506856I'm sure that there are a multitude of fae available. Original-flavor, Germanic kobolds for example, or something related to the Lorelei?http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorelei
>>36504603You're gonna be On-A-Roll Atlantean archaeologists or mercenaries for them. We're gonna get some Indiana Jones in.
>>36507558So would Indy himself be Smart-Nimble or Nimble-Smart?
>>36507558>tfw you've already made a character that fits almost perfectlyName: Kapi BandarRole: Nimble GuyCountry of Origin: Sher KhanateSize: MediumSpecies: Ape---Attributes---Robustness: 8/12Agility: 12/12Intelligence: 10/12Sensibility: 7/12Charm: 6/12Will: 3/3Strikes: 3/3---Skills---Acrobatics: 4(6)Athletics: 3Melee: 4(7)Prevent Harm: 3(4)Stealth: 3Academics: 3(4)Occult: 3Mechanics: 3Linguistics: 3 (human, feline, ancient hindi)Travel: 3---Traits---Wanna Be Like You- 1 rank of Linguistics at character creationIncreased Mobility- +2 to Acrobatics.Combo- If your Nimbleness exceeds that of the foe by at least 5 points, you can attack one more time in the same turn.---Powers---Fastest Fingers in All the Lands- Spend a Will point. You gain a +5 bonus to Mechanics, Acrobatics, and Athletics checks for the remainder of the scene.Wind, Help My Feet to Fly- By spending a Will point you may attempt a single physics-defying feat of Acrobatics or Athletics (like running a short distance on a vertical wall or using a flight of passing birds as skipping stones to get to a nearby roof). The actual difficulty is up to the DM, and if he deems the act too impossible you are refunded the Will point.---Ideals---Any day away from adventure is a wasted day.Humans and apes are pretty much cousins, why can't we just go along?Knowledge is the real treasure, but actual shinies are nice too.---Goals---Zero: Unearth a forgotten treasure.On-a-Roll: Make an archeological discovery of international importance.Hero: Reveal the true history of the world.---Equipment---Twin Swords: Dual-wielded weapons, +3 MeleeLight Armor: +1 Prevent HarmAdventuring Journal: +1 AcademicsTen foot pole, rope, mallet & stake: Can't delve without
>>36507809Physical Description:Dark of fur and long of limb, this remarkable example of ape wears a decorated padded vests and carries two curved swords and a battered rucksack on his back.Rundown:Monkeys have a very particular place in the Khanate's caste system. Sher Khan's political ties with the Kingdom of the Red Flower put the second only to the great cats in terms of rights and leeway, but exactly for this reason many see them as upstart foreigners reaping benefits they don't deserve. Kapi's modest origins and choice of career (adventurer and archeologist, or as he is often called "glorified graverobber") certainly didn't help. This is why he's always preferred the quiet of forgotten tombs andovergrown temple to the hustle and bustle of cities and his "untouchable" human cousins to his fellow animals. Though he has achieved his dream of leaving his country and explore the wider world, homesickness can never be truly banished.
>>36507615Screw it, I'm gonna write him as Nimble-Smart.
>>36500438Hey guys, could we talk about this for a moment? I feel it's a great idea to make La's land a little more unique.
>>36507843Nimble-Sensible. He's not having any whirling sword crap as long as he's got a gun.
>>36507948Your call, stat him how you want. To me, Indy seems more sensible than anything else.
>>36507914I'll write some stuff on it when I'm not in class: about 15 minutes.
>>36507914I'll write some stuff once I finish writing story-time for another thread.
>>36497935More like savoring it and feeding it until it gets big enough to be a true meal. Like the Mares of Diomedes except that they're going to be meals themselves.
in a previous thread I mentioned using Nob #1 and Nob #2 as members of Faciliers inner circle, heres what I meant by that:Nobody Important: a Man Who in exchange for the friends power gave away His Date of Birth, now this may not seem like much but it effectively means he can be overlooked, as if he was never there, seeing as he never really existed.Nobody Interesting: this man gave the Friends his Name, this effectively means that he can hide from any attempts to discern his location, after all, You can put a Name to a face, But You can't put a face to a Name
Back at my usual time.>>36500695>>36500725Beautiful, this is the last KLR we need in the entire system. Once we finish statting Kings now, we will officially be in Beta. Thanks Ghost, your contributions are great and your presence in the last handful of threads has been missed.>>36508468>adding namefags as actual presences in the systemRegardless of intentions, bad idea.I believe I promised someone a song, but I'm not sure who. Please remind me.
>>36508544sorry, it seemed like a good idea at the time, most things I come up with do, but then they turn out to be utter rubbish when put into practice.
>>36508639Don't apologize m8, all brainstorming is good brainstorming. It's just that people tend to get upset (Probably rightfully) when writers work themselves into the system itself, even when not written by themselves.
>>36508544>>36508639>>36508698We could give the namefagsand every anon that helped a little thank you in the back of the core for all the work they did
>>36508768Maybe just as a footnote at the end of the PDF. We shouldn't make the thank you page a big thing, since the majority of namefags are anons overall. I doubt any of them will use their names after the system is over.
>>36508768If there is a thanks page it should just be 'Anonymous' repeated 30 times, as a joke.
>>36508813Yeah, I'm not hanging onto this name. I chose it to DOWNPLAY the attention it'd get. I'd recommend dedicating the last page as an index but having a small (10 point font maybe?) list of the namefags and especially anonymous at the bottom of the page, where only the people looking for it will find it.Should probably also include a "thank you" to disney for not C&Ding us, even if that's impossible.>>36508468>>36508544The only acknowledgement I'd like to get is having No One be an example Inner Circle or Villain.
>>36508813Yeah, I'm sure as hell not keeping my name after this. It's literally based off the character I made to keep in Disney spirit.>>36508915>>36508941What if we had, at the last page, a MASSIVE thank you to Disney in general for not v&ing us all, and then like a tiny list of namefags and 'anonymous' repeated a bunch of times. That'd be a good thanks page.
Okay, someone remind me what Atlantean hoverbikes are called, what bonus a large Atlantean pistol gives and what skill we use to prepare it under the table.>>36508941Will transport be provided? I seem to have gone the direction of the OTHER most famous character Harrison Ford has palyed.
Alright, Villain-Statting Guy here, I've seen some interesting ideas for the Fae Kingdom, what theme should we/I go with.>1. Twisted Fairy-Tales>2. Literal Fairies. Each Villain based on a different country's version of one.>3. Both>4. Mixture of Both.
>>36500438>>36500438Interesting. I think a Land in struggle for it's actual King contrasts well with the other Lands and with China specifically. How would we represent this mechanically?>>36509001I think a big ol' thanks page to Disney, the actual actors/writers, and then a teeny list of the /dvv/ thread people (mostly anonymous ~30 times) would be good if it was at the bottom.>>36509002>transportYes, but you'll be on camels hired from Agrabian merchants since you'll be in Egypt. Try not to offend the locals too much.>pistolProbably +3, since it's a Fine gunpowder weapon which is +2, and +1 for Atlantean Tech.
>>36509049>camelsOh, I know exactly what you're planning now.
Name: Hans OloRole: Nimble/Charming GuyCountry of Origin: The Wild WestSize: MediumSpecies: Human---Attributes---Robustness: 7/12Agility: 11/12Intelligence: 7/12Sensibility: 8/12Charm: 10/12Will: 3/3Strikes: 4/4---Skills---Acrobatics: 4Athletics: 3Ranged: 5 Brawl: 3Prevent Harm: 5Endure: 3 Deceit: 4Mechanics : 4Drive: 4 Travel: 3 Insight: 3 ---Traits---One Jump Ahead: +2 to Athletics and Acrobatics when fleeing from authority or more than three pursuersTime To Panic!: +4 to any roll used to escape a dangerous situation while on one Strike or no Strikes.Diamond in the Rough: You gain a +2 bonus to skills tests to decipher the value (statistical or otherwise) of an item. Science for chemicals, Academics for books (Linguistics for foreign ones), etc.Atlantean Mechanics: Make Mechanics checks even with advanced mechanics at no penalty. Able to use Atlantean technology with no mishaps.---Powers---An Impressive Performance: Spend a will point. Gain a +5 bonus to Acrobatics or Athletics for the rest of the scene and you may use it in the place of Music. Additionally, your movement speed doubles.Fastest fingers in all the lands: Spend a will point. You gain a +5 bonus to Mechanics, Acrobatics, and Athletics checks for the remainder of the scene.Quick Draw King: You may always make one attack in the surprise round, and never suffer penalties in the surprise round.Yes, I'll Bet You Have: Against a foe holding you at the point of a weapon, you may make a Deceit+Agility check opposed by their Insight+Sensibility. If you win, you get to shoot first. (requires Quick Draw King)Never Tell Me The Odds!: +5 to all Drive checks made in very hazardous conditions or through dangerous terrain. ---Equipment---Custom Blaster: +3 RangedLight Outfit: +1 Prevent HarmThe Century Hawk: Atlantean Aircraft
>>36509266---Ideals---Disregard gold diggers; acquire loot.Always get some payment upfront.Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.---Goals---Zero: Acquire an Atlantean aircraft.On-a-Roll: Become a legendary smuggler; woo a princess.Hero: Get Alameda Slim off your back.Physical Description: Guess.Rundown: Do I really need to fill in these blanks for you?
>>36509049It could be a sort of hidden-mechanic. subtle changes to the land that unless you're looking hard you wouldn't notice. Say for example our party of hero's defeats La with Sabor still alive. Instead of returning to normal, the land accepts her as king, granting her La's power as well as her own. It could also work towards a more political stand-point. The more La's land is taken over by the cat, the more paranoid she gets. It might even get to the point where she sends adventurers or assassins to kill her so she cannot be usurped. >>36509105>Hassan gets a Disney movie.
>>36509266>>36509296Somewhere a lawyer is crying.
>>36509266>>36509296It's like you WANT us all to get vanned.
>>36509352On the other hand, if the PC's somehow show Sabor her influence on the land, they could work with her to overthrow the weak Queen La and possibly making a powerful, if not dangerous, ally for their journey through the beast kingdoms.
>>36509394>replace the evil queen with the evil traitorous tigerbrilliant and utterly disney: murderhobo edition
>>36509618>Implying the average /tg/ player wouldn't try to redeem La with his dick and fail horribly
>>36509618She's not so much evil as hungry and pissed that it turns out La is taking her hunting grounds.
>>36509711>implyingLa is the easiest to dong, she literally tries to fuck tarzan in the seriesThen ursula, you sick fuckThen elsa, but only if you are fuckin noble and shit and not a dashing rogue archetypeThen Grimhilde, nigga's not gonna love you but she mite fuck you while scratching your face offThen dragonbitch
>>36510027Maleficent isn't HARD to fuck, you just have to be lucky whenever the whim takes her. Now Yzma, that's who's going to be hard to fuck. No-one is good enough to screw the empress of everything.
>>36510136That's just disgusting
>>36510136>seducing Yzmapls no
>>36510184>>36510336>implying she doesn't have a potion to turn her into your dream girl>implying fugging isn't the ultimate form of diplomacyDo you even bard?
>>36510380Good luck fugging Elsa or Grimhilde unless you are some variation of good-hearted neutral good extremely attractive hero. Generic Bards can't fug everything since it's disney.
>>36510431>Doubting the power of the bard in a setting where music and song are as powerful as an atlantean laser cannon
>>36510431Also: If you do try to fug Elsa, I recommend avoiding cunnilingus.
>>36510502Only those pure of heart and noble of soul can use music to fug.>>36510557Last time someone brought this up, it destroyed three threads as /frz/ shippers came in. Never again.
>>36510598My heart is as noble and pure as any other! Is it so wrong to use the pleasure of sex to bring a new flame to their frozen heart?
Alright guys, I'm gonna try statting Ursula in a while.Is it fair to make the Trident the most OP part and give Ursula herself mostly "eh okay I guess" stats?
>>36510674Coming into this discussion to state that this trope in general pisses me off. Noble ladies don't just fuck the first bard with a good song unless you're catherine. High nobility with lovers were common because of arranged marriages, screwing someone from outside of the nation, and especially someone who isn't noble-born or raised was just about suicide. The notion of any queen or princess fucking the grizzled warrior or party bard in any monarchical setting makes me buttmad.ESPECIALLY in the Napoelonic era, where Absolute Monarchs verged on fucking divine and the divide between city-workers and high nobility was legitimately like ants to a lion. Even screwing a low noble from inside the nation like a Baron was distasteful unless the dude was a veritable napoleon or something.
>>36510834Well, she couldn't do shit except trick particularly dumb mermaids until she got the Trident. So I suppose so.
>>36510864There are some records of Absolute Monarchs marrying low nobility (aside from medieval tales of knights winning princess's hearts), but I agree with this post for the most part. Marrying anyone under a Duke as a monarch was a surefire scandal unless the guy was somehow super-exceptional.
>>36510864Dude it's a jokeCalm down
>>36510960/tg/ is sooper seriois about their historical dickings manNot even joking
Okay, so, something just occured to me.Shouldn't we make a power that involves making deals with other characters, and being in right to claim a big price if they can't pay? Could give it to both Facilier and UrsulaI'm trying to stat her and holy fuck, I've got nothing here except that one idea
>>36511269http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AquamanThis might help you garner some ideas for powers.
Alright, I did my best, but I don't think this is good enough actuallyName: Ursula, Ruler of All SeasRole: SmartClass: Mermaid WitchSize: MediumTier: On-A-Roll (With Triton’s Trident, Hero)---Attributes---Robustness: 12Agility: 15Intelligence: 17Sensibility: 12Charm: 8Will: 5/5Strikes: 4 + X3 where X is the number of members on the party---Skills---Athletics: 10 (Swimming counts right?)Melee: 5Prevent Harm: 9Deceit: 10Persuasion: 8Occult: 13 (14)Linguistics: 5Insight: 7Music: 7Craft: 13---Traits----MerfolkThis unit obtains a +10 bonus to Athletics when underwater-Trussssst Me!+2 to Deceit if the target actively distrusts this unit-Master of an ArmyThis unit can call in Villains to assist her in battle if they have not been defeated -QueenThis unit is a QUEEN. It gets +10 to Persuade and/or Intimidate its servants to do anything if opposed in some way, and can automatically make them obey if nobody is trying to incite rebellion among them.
>>36511650---Equipment---(Divine) TRITON’S TRIDENT+20 to all acts of magic+10 to All Stats+10 StrikesEnables “Size Change” Enables “Overwhelming Magic”Enables “Call to the Storms”Enables “Master of the Seas”Enables “Proof of Kingship”-Size Change (Divine)This unit can freely manipulate their form and size, and gain the appropriate bonuses and penalties of said sizes. (Giant Ursula rises above the water. Loses her Merfolk bonus.)-Overwhelming Magic This unit can roll Occult+Intelligence+Ranged/Melee in order to execute a magical attack-Call to the Storms (Divine)This unit can freely manipulate the weather of the ocean and call down rain, hail, wind, lightning and waves on any point in their territory. All units caught in the Storm, if on any sort of vehicle, must roll a Driving/Travel and Endure test not to be knocked off. TN depends on the intensity of the Storm. -Master of the Seas (Divine)This unit can freely control the tides, waves and currents of the ocean. The unit can summon tsunamis, whirpools and typhoons to the battlefield or any point in their territory. If characters are caught in the waves and not on any form of vehicle, they must roll an Athletics+Endure check. TN depends on the intensity of the Waves-Proof of KingshipThis is the mark of the land’s King. The unit holding this item is recognized as the KING or QUEEN of the Land, and can dictate the Rule.
>>36511687Wait, shit"Proof of Kingship" should just be "Queen". I'm retarded
>>36511650>>36511687If no one has an issue with this, I'm gonna add it to the wiki.One more King down.
>>36511650You gave her Villain stats.She's weaker than Alameda Slim.She needs to be stronger in attributes and Strikes.The Trident is a little bit too overpowered. +5 or 6 in all stats would be better.Look at this page for examples.http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_Kings_and_Villains#The_Old_West
>>36511870Wait, ignore the attribute part. Listen to the rest though.
>>36511870The Trident quite literally makes her a God. On the same level as Hades. It's not overpowered.
>>36511896>>36511870That was sort of the point though. Ursula's no hot shit, the trident is. That shit's Divine, it's supposed to be OP, I guessI mean, I always assumed that if a party could separate her from the Trident then bam, win, so....yeah
>>36511949>>36511945Oh yeah. Nevermind.Ursula is 100% A-OK anon. Good job.
>>36512023Not really, I am gonna finish her up once I get back online.Also, since I said I'd do it yesterday guys, I'll also go and give Maleficent some small boosts.Fire Breath now uses Occult+Intelligence+Robustness+Ranged to deal damageHer staff, if still with her when she transforms, gives +5 to "Fire Breath"New power: ALL THE POWERS OF HELLSpend all remaining will points. Obtain a +7 boost to all rolls until the end of the scene. If no Will Points remain, obtain a +4 to the next attack only.Sounds good?
>>36512328Sí mi amigo.
So I have been poking around these threads for a few days trying to think of some way to contribute. Would a possible good idea for Olympia/Hades be (borrowing from actual greek myth) the idea of Persephone still being free alongside Hades and perhaps being someone that the heroes could convince to help them against him? She could have been around but be unwilling to act directly against Hades until a group of heroes convinces her to do so.
>>36512784Well, that sounds like a fine suggestion for our rumor mill. If you wanna write up Persephone in Rumor Mill fashion, whoever manages it will probably add it in whenever he comes back from the dead.
Alright, I've boosted up Maleficent.Seriously though, I cannot, for the life of me, think of powers for Ursula. I haven't even seen the Little Mermaid, for fuck's sakeIf somebody c ould suggest some here so we can get her something aside the Trident, that's be amazing>>36512784I like this quite a lot. He didn't have Persephone as his wife in the movie, but that'd be a very itneresting possibility. Make it a Rumour?
>>36512784Sounds good to me.Feel free to join our playtest tomorrow at 7:00 PM EST.Playtest here: https://app.roll20.net/join/585117/yX0x1wWe'll be playing by text, so no worries if you don't have a mic.
>>36513072I was actually hoping to give it a go tomorrow, I have really quite enjoyed everything that has been put out so far for this system. Has any info on the Tier/Location for the next test been put up?also incoming Persephone Rumor dump.PersephoneAlive and married to Hades Persephone has stood beside the new King of Olympus much as she did when he was merely the King of the Underworld however the ever increasing damage to the world around them by the Titans and Hades' unwillingness to reign them in is a constant source of contention between them and time has worn away much of the love between them.Oocasionally she will step down from Olympus and attempt to fix some of the damage that has been done to the world bringing growth and life wherever she roams though the lands despoiled by the Titans are still quite beyond her power to fix.During one of her ventures down from Olympus or perhaps if the heroes are brave enough to venture up to Olympus themselves they might encounter her and might stand a chance of convincing her to aid them against the God-King of Olympia
>>36513481Location: Somewhere in Egypt.... Escorting a band of Atlantean archaeologists to the lost tomb of Pharaoh Ramseseses XXVII.You'll be On-A-Roll tier, having just reached it. +10 Equipment cap, with equipment maximum bonus being +4.
>>36513546We need Brendan Fraser in thatAnd he must be named O'Connel
>>36513546How many lessons does On-a-roll usually have at that point if any? The 1d4 says that Zero to o-a-r is obtained after goals are met but indicates no specific common amount of lessons obtained.Assuming we do receive any lessons what progression should I work with? Medium?
>>36513680Medium progression, 50 lessons.
>>36513791Don't forget, powers are free, everything else costs lessons though.
The list grows shorter every day, posting to remind people to finish this shizzleKings left to stat:Sorcerer-Sultan Jafar of AgrabahGrimhilde the Fair Queen of the Mirror KingdomQueen La of the Leopard KingdomEmpress Yzma of the Sunless EmpirePontifex Immortalis Frollo of the Grand ArchdioceseTzekel-Kan of El DoradoGovernor Radcliffe of VirginiaImperial President Lyle Tiberius Rourke of the Imperial Republic of AtlantisThe Huntsmen of the Elite Global Huntsman ClubChairman Cutler Beckett of the East India Trading Co.Hades of OlympiaThe Aurora of the Spirit RealmScar, High King of the PridelandsKing Louis of the Kingdom of the Red FlowerBagheera, Lord of the Free CreaturesShere Khan of the Shere KhanateMor'du of the Land of the BearKing Ratigan of the Under-Empire
>>36513791>medium progressionOooh, I wrote Hans Olo for slow progression, I'll have to rewrite him for tomorrow.>>36514237>Tzekel-Kan of El DoradoOffhand, do "gains a strike back whenever he deals one or more strikes", "gains two strikes back whenever he takes down an enemy" and "if dealt a strike that could draw blood, 50/50 chance he won't actually receive the strike" sound like suitable powers for him?
>>36514237sorry its been a whileanyway, saying what i think their stats should focus on (not saying the actual stats here)power = focuses on magic/powers/abilitiessocial = charm or deceptionSheer will = they will go to all lengths to defeat you, takes ages to defeatJafar - Intellect and powerGrimhilde - Social and powerYzma - Dextrous and intellectFrollo - sheer willRourke - Strength and SocialHuntsmen - Strength/dexterity and socialCutler Beckett - Sheer willHades - social and powerScar - intellect and socialLouis - dexterity and socialBagheera - Strength and dexterityKhan - strengthRatigan - intellect and social
>>36514514>Khan - strengthStrength and terror. There was not a scene in the movie where anyone saw him and wasn't immediately alarmed,
HORNED KINGRobustness: 12Agility: 9Intelligence: 18Sensibility: 16Charm: 17=72 totalFACILIERRobustness: 10Agility: 10Intelligence: 16Sensibility: 18Charm: 20= 74 totalELSARobustness: 8Agility: 10Intelligence: 16Sensibility: 10Charm: 15= 59 totalMALEFICENTRobustness: 8Agility: 10Intelligence: 22Sensibility: 15Charm: 15= 70 totalSHAN YURobustness: 18Agility: 15Intelligence: 14Sensibility: 11Charm: 8= 66 totalFUCKING ALMADEA SLIMRobustness: 10Agility: 12Intelligence: 8Sensibility: 12Charm: 18= 60 totalKAARobustness: 5Agility: 12Intelligence: 15Sensibility: 18Charm: 20= 70 totalWHO THE FUCK IS BALANCING SCORES.WHY IS KAA SO FUCKING POWERFUL. THAT NIGGA'S STATS BEAT OUT MALEFICENT.WHY ARE ELSA'S ATTRIBUTES SO FUCKING BAD. HER POWERS ARE WEAK SHIT TOO COMPARED TO EVERYONE ELSE.WHY IS SHAN YU SO FUCKING STRONGAGHTHIS IS AWFULElsa needs a pretty major fucking buff, she's weak as shit. The Horned King should be considerably weaker than her, but even without artifacts he beats her by a mile and equals maleficent.Balance the fucking stats, jesus christ. We established powerlevels for the last two threads, enact them.
>>36514843Past thread arguments concerning Elsa tried to bring her down to just being a normal human that just happened to have ice powers, because if she was made too powerful then it looks like the ghosts of /frz/ are boosting up their waifu.
>>36514880There was literally one troll screaming about /frz/ and shit when we drove them off ten threads back. Fuck. Just because everyone is terrified of waifufaggotry now doesn't mean we should we should make Elsa weaker than fucking ALMADEA SLIM. Nigger is literally the most powerful all-natural human in the world.
>>36514922Beyond her ice powers, she has nothing. She's not a big muscular cowboy, she's not a warrior-warlock Deathlord, she's not the Mistress of All Evil. Though I will agree with you that Kaa needs to be toned down; other than Charm, his mental stats shouldn't be very high.
>>36514843Because Shan Yu is a Hun Warlord, and a pretty damn smart one to boot, of course he's gonna be strong as fuck. He's immortal, too.Kaa only has social shit to his name, really. Maleficent has a lot more variety, and turns into a motherfucking DragonElsa has a lot of magical power but she's still just kind of a princess. She isn't shown swinging a sword or running through a country or even riding horses. I mean, she has kind of been locked into her room for many yearsI don't see much of a problem
>>36514922He's the best Bard in a world where music is the best thing to attack or boost stats with.Nigga has a right to be the strongest all-natural human.Elsa could be stronger though.
>>36515026The Horned King is literally a magically-held together skeleton that hates music and culture and nice things. Why in the fuck does he have INT:18, CHA:17 and SEN:16? Because it needs to be balanced. We should apply that same balancing to ALL of the top-tier kings.>>36515031Does not explain Shan Yu's INT:14, SEN:11 or AGI:11. Or Kaa's SEN:18. Seriously what the fuckElsa needs a boost to CHA at least, and probably one to INT and SEN/AGI as well. Her stats are fucking 25 below those we've established as roughly equal powerlevel, even in retard-crazy state.>>36515067You retard, I was talking about Elsa. Almadea slim is a fat faggot with a banjo.
>>36515026really its the enviroment will fuck the heroes over when it comes to elsaareas should start reaching absolute zero when she gets cold hearted enough
>>36514843>>36515106Wait, the Horned King has higher Charm than Elsa.wut
>>36515106calm down anon, we all get you love frozenits just that elsa is one of those villains where its her powers that should make them strong, not stats.
>>36515106>Does not explain Shan Yu's INT:14, SEN:11 or AGI:11. Or Kaa's SEN:18. Seriously what the fuckUh, how? Shan Yu's smart, and pretty much the whole Hun army could track shit and were in general pretty addept at sensing and figuring out things from small details. Unless I'm mistaken on what Sensibility actually does.I do agree that the Horned King having more Charm than Elsa is bullshit thoughI would slap an 8 on that nigga, and tell him to be happy about it
>>36515138thats a point the horned king wasnt that charming. his intellect was, but not himself.he relys through fear tactics.
>>36514922>>36514843Also,>KAA>Robustness: 5>Agility: 12If he were a small snake, I wouldn't think twice of it, but a python large enough to eat a ten year old boy is going to have a Robustness much higher than its Agility.
>>36515191This.In the movie Kaa actually moved pretty damn slow, but he carried Mowgli on his coils no problemI'd swap Robustness with Agility, or at least change it to something like....Robustness: 12Agility: 9Intelligence: 16Sensibility: 15Charm: 19
>>36514843There's no balancing because there's no real consensus on how stats should work. If we could agree on a standard maximum total for Kings we might get somewhere.
>>36515159I thought Frozen was pretty good, but I'm interested in balance, not waifufaggotry.Her powers are fucking shit too.A TN16 Endure challenge, taking one guy out for two turns and being able to attack everyone with a will point. They're utter shit.>>36515169Fair point on the SEN. However, his AGI should still not be that high (Maybe 9), and his INT should probably be 12.>>36515187That's Robust.I'd suggest for Elsa:Robustness: 8Agility: 12Intelligence: 18Sensibility: 12Charm: 19= 69. That puts her about where she should be stat-wise. I think her SEN is a bit too high and AGI would be better at 10, but it's more balanced like this. CHA and INT should be up there for a highly-educated elegant Queen groomed her entire life to be tactical and cunning, while still maintaining an elegant stance. Even in retard-crazy state.
>>36515256Those stats seem more like 'redeemed' Elsa than crazy. I'm no crunch guy, but that does make it look more balanced considering most other high-power Kings are 70-75. I dunno.
>>36515237>Intelligence: 16Eh. Beyond his hunting strategy, which very well could be pure instinct, he never seemed to show any cunning, certainly nothing that was beyond the average human.>>36515169>>36515187The only purpose to HK's high Charm was to give him a high intimidate.....adjusting now.
>>36515256>his AGI should still not be that high (Maybe 9), and his INT should probably be 12.I disagree with the AGI; he's pretty damn fast for his size, and his agility is nothing to laugh about either. Hell, his whole thing is being a combat monster even in the movie.You might have a case for the INT though. I think it is sorta low for him but who knows>CHA and INT should be up there for a highly-educated elegant Queen groomed her entire life to be tactical and cunning, while still maintaining an elegant stanceAlright, I'm gonna need some source on that, because we didn't really get that in the movieI'd say boost her Sensibility instead and take her INT down just a peg. She wasn't a master strategist, but she was pretty quick about pointing out that Anna was going full retard pretty quickly and picked up on things pretty fast as well
>>36515256i would suggest that the longer the fight gets the colder the area gets for the hereos - sapping their stats.if at any point one of their stats reaches zero they start taking strikes every x minutesthis power does not happen until she is hostile to you, somehow managing to make her not hostile to you will slowly revert this power
>>36515106It was joke mengCalm down
>>36515333Nigga have you seen the movie? Or know anything about History?The entire first quarter of the movie is displaying that Elsa is intelligent and graceful, and we can infer from history that as the heir apparent, she was being taught since age like 9 tactics, diplomatic conduct and leadership. It obviously stuck because she acts like a queen and shit at coronation and people respect her authority and whatnot right until she goes full MUH ICE. The only reason she rejected Anna's marriage is because Anna has a SEN score of maybe two. The entire other three quarters of the movie display that Elsa has shit fucking SEN, she retreats into her own shit the instant she fucks everything up and can't see that everything is collapsing around her. Any Absolute Monarch in a Napoleonic-era nation would have an INT and CHA scores that are reasonably high- one that's actually good at it, like it's implied heavily that Elsa is, would have high-ass scores. More importantly, BALANCE
>>36515478>BALANCEI'm sorry, when did we agree that all the kings had to be equal?
>>36515365I like this, but maybe we should just make it that whenever her emotions rise everything gets cold until someone snaps her out of being totally insane. Could be cool for out-of-combat too.>>36515333My Napoleonboner tells me that anyone trained as an Absolute Monarch would be, effectively, a master strategist. High Intelligence and Charm scores make sense according to the tiny man in a french foreign legion uniform here.
>>36515478Kings are not balanced against each other. >>36515555Elsa was likely never expected to seriously take the throne, her father would have lived for another ~30 years without the storm and she'd have been married off by then if we're going for 'historical accuracy'.
>>36515478Alright, alright, fair enough. I was leaving the usual royalty teachings to the side though because, y'know, disney. But we've already manipulated a lot of other characters so this is by no means too far fetched.However, there is also one detail that I think is worth noting, and this goes for everybody:She's bat-shit insane.Maybe not cray cray, but she IS struck in the mother of all "I don't give a fuck, leave me alone" spirals. If that wouldn't dump her Charisma, I don't know what would, since she'd be more itnerested in making people GO AWAY more than anything and I don't think that at first she would be too keen on being logical about it. Maybe what we could do is make two or so different stat spreads for her? One for her starting phase, when she only has her lonely frozen fucks to not give, one for when the PCs get through to her at first, and one when she's actually back?That would make things sorta complicated, but hey. It's something, right?
>>36515503We get it, you want Horned King to be more powerful than everyone else ever because of your raging hardon for those shitty books. We're making a game system here, and the established strength we've made states that certain Kings should be more powerful than others. Elsa wasn't one we decided to make weak as shit.
>>36515555Being isolated for a decade with no parents to teach you the royal tricks of the trade kind of puts a damper on becoming a master strategist.>>36515365>>36515478>>36515593How about having her stats change based on her emotional state, seems like the best fix for this.
>>36515586Forgot pic>tfw no skills to shop crazed Elsa in there.>>36515593Come on man, he already dumped down the HK stats when we called him out. Y u heff 2 B mad
>>36515571WEEOO WEOO MY HISTORICAL INACCURACY ALARM IS BLARINGIn the movie, the nameless King and Queen died when both daughters were young as fuck, like, as in Elsa was nine. There would have been a regency council and, as Elsa would have been the next in line under an Agnatic-Cogniatic line, she would have been heavily tutored in military leadership, tactics, general leadership, and dealing with diplomats and whatnot. Anna would have been the one trained in sewing and poetry and other girly shit, which is represented in how Elsa acts like a reserved leader as was expected and trained in her, while Anna is more like 'fuck everything' because her only responsibility is to marry someone with power. Elsa would have all the training and probably even know hunting and other 'manly' trainings, as she was basically expected to be a King with a vagina.
>>36515663Elsa stayed locked up inside for like, 80% of her career. I don't believe you.
>>36515663Okay, that's fair enough, but let's get in a compromise here. This is still Disney, they probably didn't drill ALL that shit into her.Boost up her Cha and Int, but I'm calling shenanigans on most of the other stuff
>>36515699That doesn't mean she can't get training. On the contrary, it probably means she's been doing it a lot; it's not like she has anything else to do.
>>36515586Also I like this idea. It better represents how she would be like 'go away' but have all that military and diplomatic training remembered in a more sane state.>>36515699Come on mate, she wasn't just locked in her room alone with no food or water for 12 years and then came out with knowledge of regal conduct at the Coronation and be able to not lose her shit. No loyal Regency Council would allow the next ruler of the nation to go untrained in how to ride a horse at the forefront of an army, not accidentally declare war on France and learn all 900 rules for expressing superiority and dominance while using a salad fork. Like I said: King with a vagina.
>>36515755Oh, come on now, when did Disney kings ever do that shit? Triton went to face Ursula alone, by himself, when he figured out Ariel was in trouble. We can't slap EVERYTHING that real life would give her in hereI say give her the know-how but not the physical capacity or too much experience. She's too thin in the movie to have a lot of robustness unless she downs ice armor or something
>>36515716Disney is horrible about Historical accuracy 99% of the time, and Frozen is no exception - the soldiers are using some kind of retarded crossbow-thing despite solid rifles existing for quite some time over even muskets, Hans using a fucking arming sword instead of a Rapier, etc etc - but they did get the Social etiquette and regal attitudes pretty right. It's safe to assume that Elsa had pretty damn strict training in acting like a King for ambassadors and soldiers, and most likely in some form of tactics/hunting/holding a rifle to display herself as a form of 'powerful' ruler.Ugh, maybe I know too much about history. I shouldn't be able to list mid-1800s regency raising of a female heir apparent in such detail of the top of my head.
>>36515800>>36515808this elsa knows about combat, but she barely ever does it because of lol ice powers and that she rarely needs to fight
>>36515808Then again, pretty sure they didn't have big summer blowout sales either.
>>36515800Whoah, Robustness? No, she's still a Queen and not a king, she's not weightlifting every day or anything. The vast majority of Kings/Queens that weren't Louis XIV hunted because it was popular, not because the enjoyed or were particularly good at it. Her robustness should still be 8, raising a royal child focuses on making them a leader first and foremost, not a soldier. Anything that looks like that is for appearance's sake alone. Any good regent knows that appearances matter way more than what you're actually doing. Also it's not like 'hunting' is a skill. It does give good justification for those Athletics points she has, though.>>36515833Kind of, yeah. If Nob's point of the King dying late in the reign was true then Elsa probably would have never seen a weapon in her life, but since they died really early she's probably shot a rifle once or twice. Not that it matters whatsoever, she's hardly trained in it and not gonna be using a rifle in combat, kek. There's also not a 'hunting' skill.>>36515878FALSEConsumerism and the idea of 'sales' and commercialization began in the early 18th century with the beginning of the industriOUS revolution (NOT INDUSTRIAL), so the big dude selling all that stuff in his shack could have theoretically existed in correlation with the near-total urbanization of the period.His sweater, however, was not made of material that would have existed at that time period. It would more likely have been fur or some form of cotton/wool mesh coating.
>>36515941what the fuck i thought you were an english major did you minor in history or some shit god damn why do you know all that shit
>>36515941Hunting falls under Travel or Ranged or Craft.
>>36515999I'm not sure why we're discussing this though, the likelihood of Elsa ever making a travel check in any game is about one percent.So what then, are we keeping her normal stats for Elsa being crazy and using >>36515256 for sane?
>>36515941>FALSEWell, I learned something new today! I wonder if they had sunglasses, too.
>>36516039Sure. It's like when in JRPGs, when a former boss joins the party, their stats instantly get axed.
>>36516071>It's like when in JRPGs, when a former boss joins the party, their stats instantly get axed. Fucking Magus.At least they explained it, but still.Fucking Magus.
>>36515800>too thinNigga is a twig.If we're assuming she's 5'7, she's like 110 pounds. Cause she's a Disney Princess.I'd be whining about 8 robustness but Sverd's uncanny knowledge about how royal children were raised is decent justification.
>>36514843A large part of why Elsa has such low stats is that she used to have much higher Sensibility, but that didn't really fit her character as being insane, so I reduced her sensibility by 5 or so, but gave her a trait that gave her an effective +10 to defending against social rolls, which is the primary combat use of sensibility for a character only using it defensively (who didn't build around it).
Considering statting up the bard in this picture as a Russian who only survived Chernobog because his music and emotions were so wild that they didn't let Chernobog eat them.
>>36514843We do need to buff the fuck out of her, that was just an explanation of why the stats don't necessarily show power as a whole.
I seriously think that it's fair game to just buff Elsa a little bit and let Arrendelle and her powers be the main problem in her campaign, but that's just me
I want to do something for the Court of Miracles but i'm too tired and school in the morning so i'll get it done later tomorrow.
>>36516395>>36516370Yeah, we kinda just decided to let her be for current stats but give her 'sane' self improved statistics.
Welp, it's been fun discussing Elsa. Again. But it's late as fuck, so I'm out.Stay tuned kids, because tomorrow uncle Anonymous, who has brought you Maleficent, Shan Yu and the almost-complete Ursula is gonna go to town and stat Hades. Yes, I am the same anon, but I also might not be. I might be just a faggot impersonating three different ones No way to know No face best face
>>36515999Hey Nob, do you need something like KLRs for the other worlds? Jones, Facilier and Hades already have their own KLRs separately, Christopher Robin has one connect to Kaa, but other than that idk. One for the Queen of Hearts is the only real KLR there.
Also, much as I hate to point this out, the Bard/Elsa dicking could totally occur when you consider her innate desire to rebel against the rigidly structured system in which she grew up. She would have been bound to marry a noble, but now that the world has gone to hell, there aren't many nobles left, and she is under no pressure not to marry for love, or at least accept a dicking from a friendly Bard. Plus, who is really going to make a scandal out of it? Do you really want to make the fucking Snow Queen mad? Also, hers is the only Napoleonic kingdom in Europe. tl;dr Bard can fug Elsa because apocalypse
>>36516516>Impersonating the anon who made those 3>obligating them to get shit done tomorrowI like it
>>36516571I reference my last post: the last time someone used the word 'dick' and 'Elsa' in the same sentence, three entire threads were ruined.Also my historical accuracy alarm is off the fucking charts for this one. Maybe for utterly insane Elsa because she's crazy, but when sane, the idea that any Absolute monarch, and one raised on and believing in Napoleonic and Catholic ideals to boot, would loose their virginity to a commoner outsider is crazy.Still, up to the DM. My ghostly arm of autistic historical accuracy can't stop you from writing fanfiction with your personal group.
>>36516571As far as we can tell, Elsa didn't seem to especially care about the pressure of marrying anyone (which didn't seem to exist; Elsa seems to be the ruling monarch for all intents and purposes already). The pressure of not breaking down and freezing over an entire region seemed a fair bit more tantamount in her mind.
>>36516680Did....Did Napoleon even exist in the disney universe?
>>36516680So fundamentally, we've actually reached a very interesting discussion by means of Elsa dicking discussion: Does (sane) Elsa reject the customs she was raised on and want to leave them now that she can, or does she accept the ideals associated with queenship of her time? I name the side of rejection The Let It Go Theory of Elsa, as opposed to the Regal Queen Theory. Creepy Elsa dicking discussion spawned interesting character development discussion!
>>36516680Wait wait, I take that back.Make that 'Any Absolute Monarch NOT named Catherine'. She's the exception to this otherwise pretty much universal rule. It's mainly because Catherine was one of the biggest scheming manipulators in all of history, though. Monarchs in general were pretty degenerate (not used in the /pol/ way) behind closed doors because a surprising amount were really mad about their arranged marriage, gay, or really fucking weird, but the great notions of Nationalism and compulsions to God and Country had many people during the Napoleonic Era thinking the people in the next country were like flies. Not to even mention if the Bard's not white.>>36516746I wish. Frozen is the only solidly Napoleonic-Era film they've made, to my knowledge.
>>36516796Up to GM.Making her reject customs she was raised on would go against her film character and any sort of logic. It would also send my Historical Inaccuracy alarm to such high levels it would break my ears.The idea of an Absolute Monarch rejecting their country or customs in the age of Nationalism is literally unheard of. 'Let it Go' Is a song about immaturity, not maturity. The entire film is about building Waugh's and then Harkknerr's theory, namely that Elsa needs to understand love of Country before she can move on to love of Family and Anna needs to understand love of Family before she can move on to Romantic love (i.e. hans - kristoff).The fact she's rejecting her nature as a Queen in 'Let it Go' is portrayed as an immature stage she eventually gets over upon understanding familial love, and accepting her own duty and happy obligation to the nation.Or maybe I am overanalzying. I dunno, that's what I got from it. It's also why I find tumblrites clinging to 'let it go' as a song of rejecting authority/responsibility funny, because it's actually about being immature and something that Elsa gets over as she learns to be a Queen past the education I previously mentioned.
>>36516952literally what the fuck do you have a phd
>>36516746>>36516797Maybe in some form or another.
>>36516952Well, then we could get into a discussion of the fundamental value of maturity as an abstract concept. It is considered a valuable trait as one that allows people to be productive members of society, but then you reach the idea that maturity in excess, the death or suppression of one's inner child, is in fact not truly a virtue at all, but rather a repressed state, in which people are trying to force away any perceptions of immaturity from themselves by distancing themselves from childlike things. This thread is actually an example of the celebration of the childlike at its finest: We are creating a game based on movies for children that we all enjoy creating and playing, not because it contributes to society as a whole, but because we enjoy it and we want to create something for others to enjoy. This fundamentally creates a paradox: attempting to reach maturity by means of rejecting the immature will always turn out negatively, because rather than developing emotionally, you are simply forging a false pretense of development by denying true desires in order to appear responsible. This would ultimately be self-destructive. Obeying rules because they help people is fine, whereas making and obeying a set of rules for no reason other than to be following rules is another thing entirely. Sorry for semi-coherent rant, tired and trying to get a point across don't mix well.
>ITT: We discuss Napoleonic-Era history and the concept of maturity along with it's benefits and negatives, in order to find out if you can fug Elsa
>>36517201That's pretty much /tg/ in a nutshellSomeone could make a banner out of that
>>36517118Well, perhaps. What you're describing goes against the theories of Waugh/Harkknerr and, to a greater degree, much of the older philosophies of the Renaissance and arguably many ancient Greek societies.One of the basic ideas shared between the lot is that everyone has a duty to the nation itself that they must learn to accept, and grow into a love for country (Molded finely into Nationalism by 17th-century Philosophies), and, through Waugh/Harkknerr, that an idea of a Monarch or any other supreme leader is representative of ultimate duty and love to the nation, that the responsibility to the nation is the entire consumption of the Monarch and the Consort, with every action they do n the interest of the nation. Any other loves, Familial, Romantic, Platonic etc are important to the Monarch themselves but ultimately secondary to their duty to the nation. There is no room for childlike states in the Monarch or Consorts- they are the models and leaders of the nation, expected to lead them with all their heart and soul. Immaturity as you describe is abstract - you can be theoretically 'immature' while not being childlike. After all, you could define all non-national loves as immaturity. I really do disagree with the notion that rejection of the metaphorical immature leads to further propagation of immaturity itself. Maturity is, through all arguments, reached through obligation to something other than yourself. I don't know why there is a criticism of lawful stupid at the end of your post.>>36517201This is my specialty.
>>36517284Fuck I forgot to mention:The entire reason democracy was founded was because the original Greeks had their own original versions of the Pillars of Love (thanks plato), and even before that were all like 'no fuck that shit' and decided that that obligation should be expanded and split instead of being contained within one or two people.
>/tg/ - History and Philosophy
>>36516539It'd be nice to get a KLR for the Other Side, since the test campaign is going to take place in the Wild West/Shadowlands to start. Perhaps we could get a KLR for Dinosaur Island? Did anyone actually do that one?
>>36517346Dinosaur Island doesn't have a King, though. Can we do a KLR for it?
>>36517346>>36517430I'll figure out a KLR for the Other Side after my exercise. I have no idea what sort of shit goes on there, so feel free to spam ideas.
>>36517430Well, are they sentient animals or not? This is DISNEY after all, and it could just be a lawless land where nobody ventures, much like the Spirit-controlled sections of Japan, but at the very least we could claim that the "pecking order" of the island is the rule, and that the Carnosaurs in general are the King.>>36517458the Other Side needs souls. Why does it need souls? what does it do with them? How do you contact them? What exactly does their Agent, Facilier, do for them and what is actually there? Is it a swirling, formless chaos where the Friends are all one, only individual when called into the world?
>>36517458Literal shadow version of the world.Kinda like Lorule and Hyrule in Zelda.
>>36517284The criticism of lawful stupid is based around the fact that the desire to be "mature" or "adult" often drives people to lawful stupidity, following rules because following rules for their own sake is seen as a part of being a mature individual.And wasn't democracy founded largely in opposition to the recently overthrown Greek tyrants (which at that point just meant king, it didn't have it's modern connotations, but took them on as democracy grew,) and predated Plato by quite a while?As for your philosophical argument, it is grounded purely in the nationalistic schools of thought that were prominent to support the people you describe. Looking at eastern philosophy, Confucianism follows the idea that in order to govern others, one must govern oneself. This is heavily linked to the idea of wu wei: action through inaction. The king is intended to be not concerned with the micromanagement of the nation, but with large policies, and to be a focal point around which the nation can revolve. This supports the idea of seeking a level of personal fulfillment for a ruler, as rather than the kingdom being above all else in the life of a king, the king is expected to better himself as a person in order to rule.
>>36517525Not so certain about that. Too many laws is bad, certainly, but laws are hardly there for their own sake.Yes, that's why I said it was pre-Plato. Plato expounded upon the reasons, he didn't single-handedly cause democracy to happen.The Confucian ideal of governing oneself is represented in my argument as well, just in a different form, namely to govern oneself IS to govern others. Also, you just described a Constitutional Monarchy, which fucking suck in my opinion. That's a whole other argument, though. Seeking to better yourself is embedded in betterment of the nation itself - through the consort, the people, and the very nation itself, the monarch learns and embodies and grows as a veritable heart of the people. This pretty much never actually happens because the monarch retreats into themselves (Best example in all of history is the Sun King, lel, ice queen sun king), refusing to embrace the other pillars of love as set by Waugh/Harkknerr.Let's stop here because this no longer has anything to do with Disney and has moved into 18th Century Nationalist/Monarchist ideals against Confucianist Bureaucratic ones. I have no fucking clue how we got so off-topic so fast.
>>36517615I wasn't so much referring to laws as personal rules. Things like these include the ideas of etiquette (I am going to be a lady, and not do X, even though X is something that I would enjoy, and would allow me to grow as a human being) or refusing to associate with a certain type of person, which narrows your world and limits you as a person.There. I'm done
What do you guys think of a trait that allows you to ignore the -4 meter speed penalty on medium and heavy armor?
>>36517687ok not to re-start this, pls don't respond but are you really saying that people should just break all standards of decency and society because it's enjoyable? There's a reason why codes and etiquette exist, imagine what a shitty world it would be with no real moral codes or etiquette laws, compared to the stiff but fucking awesome 'proper' societies between like the 18th to late 19th century. you're suggesting caveman or anarchist shit. I don't know bout everyone else but i much prefer an ordered society where people are like 'i'm not gonna go fuck this random dude because i'm a decent human being' or 'i'm not gonna associate with those serial rapists and angry eunchs over there.'
>>36517717I don't know. We have payed almost no attention to speed/distance in the playthroughs.
>>36517717That would just make the CLANK CLANK CLANK power useless though.
>>36517772No, I'm talking about minor codes of etiquette. These are things like a woman not being socially permitted to start a business and the wealthy secluding themselves from the lower classes as much as humanly possible. The people who are being not associated with are not rapists and murderers, they are the working class, the racial minorities, the people that you walk by on the street tactfully making no eye contact with. Also, the argument that 1700-1890 or so was "fucking awesome" is hardly solid. That is entirely dependent upon where you are socially. For instance, if you are a small poor child, your life is fairly awful.>>36517830I thought that CLANK CLANK CLANK let you go faster than an unarmored person. What is the base speed per round?
I've got a character mostly worked out now, need to sort out Equipment and goals, out of curiosity can equipment do anything other than boost skills at the moment?
>>36517907Theoretically. Pitch any equipment ideas you have. We need them
can't resist>>36517875People like Louis took it way too far, but a moderate degree of social inequality is always necessary for a functional society. Society just kind of collapses on its head when the window-cleaners start coming to the Duke's ball, it really doesn't work socially. Also every case of nobility trying to act as a people's hero that weren't some sort of national hero/widely celebrated general has ended horrifically. Sad but true. It's part of the reason why Communism is so horrifically flawed, without social dynamics society cannot function. There always has to be an upper, middle and lower class with distinct splits for any sort of civilized society to function. Middle class is kinda wavy, though.Also>racial minorities>18th-19th centuryThere were so few that they effectively did not exist whatsoever until, like, 1960.
>>36517915Not sure exactly how it would work but some method of using EP to purchase something you can ride would be interesting(be they animals or vehicles)Not sure exactly how that would work, perhaps they could be done as boosts to your speed?(and for things that provide flight and/or aquatic movement they would cost more based on such) this would let pirate characters have there ships, maybe an atlantean with a crystal powered motorcycle, and give people with ride'em something to work with from the get go
>>36517980I don't think we have any real mechanics for owning vehicles in place, actually.
>>36517875Actually, they were only even slightly "fucking awesome" if you were a wealthy white man in a well-developed area that wasn't currently in the throes of violent revolution, you weren't choking on the smog of London, beheaded by revolutionaries in Paris, or really anywhere in china once the British started importing massive quantities of opium. >>36517964>Also>racial minorities>18th-19th century>There were so few that they effectively did not exist whatsoever until, like, 1960.The American black slave population was massive, just to be clear, the Civil Rights Movement in America was not the result of all the black people just showing up, they'd been there for a while. Also, life sucked dick if you were really anywhere that the British decided they were going to just take, such as India or China, and your point of "there have to be poor people" doesn't mean that the upper class should wall itself off from the rest of the population as if it were under constant siege. I initially referred to people refusing to interact with others. That does not mean "the window-cleaners start coming to the Duke's ball", you're just extrapolating any position I make to absurdity and refuting the most extreme possible form of it. My point is simply that you look at the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries under a heavily rose-tinted lens glorifies them as being "fucking awesome", when they were really still a time when people shat in buckets and children lost fingers to factory machinery. They had their high points, but they weren't this "fucking awesome" time you make them out to be.
Where in the world of DVV is there a magnificent garden of fucktons of flowers?
>>36518103There's one in Wonderland, probably one in Queen La, Bagheera or Kaa's lands too.
>>36518141Cool. Finding it is now a Heroic goal for my Hive Knight
>>36518086I was talking about Europe, not America or China. >>36517772 was not me.You're combining insults of most of his points with exactly one of mine. I was using a metaphor, not a literal translation or 'extrapolating them most extreme example' but the general idea is that when social classes try and break down that wall, you see collapse of societies. I wasn't attaching an extreme nonexistent point of yours and I'm not sure why you assumed that I was. Also, you're combining 16th-century wall dynamics with 19th-century ones that I am supporting. Seriously man. Come on.
What do people think of a Leopardperson Pseudo-Shaman looking to (one day) depose La for the glory of a truly leopard ruled Opar
>>36518234why does everyone hate la
>>36518168Oh, sorry. Did not look at the name.Also, the siege was just metaphorical. I was referring to the fact the the super-rich live almost entirely in a vacuum in which they almost never interact with the poor, who they treat with fear and suspicion. This is a modern issue as much as a historical one, and just to clarify, there isn't necessarily an actual wall between the rich and the poor, just an metaphorical one.
>>36518256this is so far from the original topic it' ridiculous
>>36517996I think at least basic land 'vehicles'(including mounts) could be fairly easy to do, taking a look at the average speeds of characters will give an idea of how fast something would need to be to really matter if these things end up recieving a baseic speed score, or it could be done in a manner of increasing the characters speed by X amount, larger things such as ships of any sort would be a bit harder to pin a price on though since they tend to move at far greater speeds than what a character could accomplish. If priacy was not so big of a thing it would be easy enough to just say that a ships speed is more or less irrelevant. If land vehicles act as an enhancement to character speed perhaps larger air/sea vehicles simply have a separate speed value(basic ship would be a 1, wheres the black pearl might be a 4 or something)I am unsure of how relevant speed will be, but perhaps. Perhaps 1EP gets you +10 to your speed and every extra EP spent nets an additional +5. Some tweaked version of this by those who understand things better could be useful.
>>36518383I like it. For ships, speed should probably be set so a basic ship is 10 or something, because big merchant ships can be much slower than a basic frigate. Ships should probably have two basic stats: speed, number of people they can hold, and then cannons or other defenses would be written down somewhere as well.
Possibly terrible idea, but I made a Hive Knight exclusive power. It basically turns you into a glass cannon that takes triple strikes and is super agile and good at stinging people. It's intended to be a great way to get yourself killed, as you take triple strikes and have no armor, but you do double strikes, so it's sort of a cool last resort.-Swarm Form: At the cost of a will point, the hive can be taken out of the armor and the bees can assume their true form as a swarm. In this form, the Hive knight gets triple speed, +8 Agility, does double brawl strikes and has a brawl score of 10, but -8 Robustness, to a minimum of 1, and takes triple damage from physical strikes, as the hive is exposed and the Queen at risk. This lasts up to 4 rounds, at which point the bees can't carry the hive anymore and drop it, leaving you defeated and unable to move unless you are back in your armor. Obviously, you do not get equipment bonuses as a swarm.
>>36518558So where does the Hive idea come from, exactly? The only Disney movie I can think of that featured a swarm of insects was Winnie the Pooh.
>>36518663It was a dumb idea I came up with at 3 AM one time, and people liked it. Not much to say, really, except that Nob said he wanted to see being tried out this playtest, which I plan on doing tomorrow.
>>36517479>>36517496King - The FriendsFacilier's Friends are voodoo spirits of terrible power and vicious cunning, though they are bound by eternal unbreakable rules. The Friends operate through deals, and even for those who make their unfortunate way to the Other Side, they can only claim the souls of those they have dealt with. Should a pure soul find itself on the Other Side, the Friends will do anything they can to force it into a deal. The Friends have a strict hierarchy, ranking them based on the deals they've made. The more deals, the more souls they can harvest, more power they have, and subsequently the bigger the masks get. Friends often combine their powers for greater effects, sharing the credit of deals when necessary, though they are all ultimately aiming to be the biggest and most powerful Friend. The current largest and most powerful Friend is Facilier's personal agent, and it would be incredibly upset if anyone were to put an end to such a profitable deal. Attracting the attention of the Friends is inevitable on the Other Side, and players traveling through this realm must prepare accordingly through voodoo counter-charms or any other blessings they can find.
>>36518802Land - The Other SideThe Other Side is a mixture of equal parts chaos and order. Wherever the Friends are welcomed into the material world, a stable mini-world is created, a shadow of the room or chamber where their masks hang. Outside these hovels however is a swirling colorful mess of primal energy, a massive endless voodoo storm. Through breaks in the clouds, one can see the real world bleeding through wherever shadows creep. Players can walk through these cloud gaps as easily as they could in the real world, though the terrain is always shifting. Navigating the semi-formed world is challenging at best, and anyone caught in the chaotic clouds could fall victim to transformation, curses or worse. Additionally, other clouds comprised of pure shadow flow through the storm, blanketing everything they pass through in brief but complete darkness. Due to the mixture of voodoo storm glow and shifting shadows, visibility is a large concern on the Other Side, and players must rely on their senses of smell and hearing to safely navigate in extreme cases.. The Friends tend to congregate in areas where their mortal agents operate, due to the higher odds of getting a deal, though they often travel to keep tabs on debtors who might fail them.
>>36518813Rule - New DealThe Friends travel with ease, unaffected by the chaos, and seek out new opportunities constantly. If they encounter players, the Friends will attempt to force the players into a deal by enticing them with visions of their deepest fantasies. Failing that, they will use their servants to frighten their targets, forcing them into the voodoo storm and into a position where they'll have to deal to get out. The only rule is that the Friends cannot directly attack or curse anyone who is not in their debt, and will try any sort of trickery to force a deal. Anyone who has unsettled debts with the Friends can have their soul extracted by any of the spirits; traveling through to the Other Side under such conditions is suicidal. Additionally, the Other Side is literally crawling with the shadow servants of the Friends, a great many of them created from the shadows of harvested debtors. These shadows follow the orders of the Friends who originally claimed their souls, and are the most common tool for trapping the players into deals. Light is the easiest way to dispel the shadows, though also the easiest way to attract the attention of more Friends. The most common way to access the Other Side is through Dr. Facilier and his network of witch doctors offering deals to the unwary or desperate. Players can get through to the Other Side via other voodoo rituals or by making a deal with one of the voodoo masks in the material world, though the latter would doom any foolish enough to do so.
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The current thread has been archived:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+VictoriousPlease remember to vote them up while I make us a new thread! I am a copy-paste master, but is there anything needing to be changed in the OP?
>>36520809Remove the Horned King poll, addthe sixth playtest link from >>36502586
>>36521029Will do, thank you. The new thread will be up momentarily.
>>36521042>>36521029>>36520809New thread is up here:>>36521125