Welcome to the XXXIX installment of "Disney Villains Victorious."Disney Villains Victorious is a new /tg/ homebrew project based on the idea of a world, not entirely unlike our own, in which all the villains from all the Disney animated feature films were not defeated at the ends of their movies but were instead victorious, completing their goals in part or in whole.It is a world in which Ursula rules the seas, defied only by the uncatchable Pirate Lords, the cutthroat merchants of the East India Trading Company and the might of Atlantis and its magitech-toting mercenaries. It is a world where the grasslands and jungles and forests are prowled not only by fearsome primal beasts like Shere Kahn and Scar but also by the ruthless, tireless hunters that stalk them. It is a world where Europe has been divvied up between evil sorcerous monarchs like Maleficent, the Horned King, Grimhilde and Jafar, mad, inquisitorial clergymen like Frollo, and Dark Gods like Hades and Chernobog.It is not, however, a world completely devoid of courage, heroism or hope. Around the world, the PCs' characters and their allies plot and plan, fight and strive and win their own victories against the villains that would rule them. The time to fight and to be free is now.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorioushttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious
King/Land/Rule: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_K/L/RsSetting Traits: http://pastebin.com/8RRbwMQTBeast Species: http://pastebin.com/PwVr9VeTTRAITS: http://pastebin.com/uHCXg4EVPOWERS:http://pastebin.com/pQDDqisUFluff Catalogue: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qj_IIuF_rqh_F2L-SeYn-dBiwDTtwWFpnbcXyfcgeE8/editSong Catalogue: (google doc) 1oQniqbLaTCF7V19fnXP0_zUW7GFr3ESziGM6U5mEcC0/editRumour Mill: (google doc) 17CzFrAblibwD__7sEYorqXSz4ILYVp1O4tcQ-mGyYiI/edit?usp=sharingVillain Immortality: http://pastebin.com/kA1wsUzVNational Anthems: http://pastebin.com/Gd9rETxbFirst Playtest: http://pastebin.com/Vy1E0sHBSecond playtest:http://pastebin.com/qE1kW0YYThird playtest: http://pastebin.com/sWj8Y87vFourth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/SHieN5zLGoogle doc for character creation:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m8XSm73Ea4ECdDdP9V4IVJCEBji6HPw43LRPyUCDmx4/edit?usp=sharingPlaytests are hosted here; https://app.roll20.net/join/585117/yX0x1w
>>36329726>>36329767General stuff we still need done:>Writing up the K/L/Rs we don't have - hosted on the K/L/R 1d4chan page>A solid list of Heroic traits and powers>More balanced normal traits and powers>Statting up Inner Circle-level enemies>Statting up Villains>Specifically figuring out what each TN challenge for each skill can do
>>36329838What sort of approach should we be taking to Heroic traits and powers? I imagine some would serve well as 'leveled up' versions of entry tier abilities, but we should have some new ones as well.
>IRC link still missingThis is why there's nobody doing the Magic Splat but me and occasionally Knightfag.We're on Mibbit, network is AsyloIRC and channel is #DVVmagic.
Is there anyway to update the rumor mill?
I am wizards
>>36329898We made this joke last thread.Also, magic update:I'm currently deciding what the different levels of each spell are, and I'm almost done with the levels of Scrying.>Scrying 1: Yes-no questions, can be blocked by very easy magic>Scrying 2: Answers any question, but can be blocked by easy magic>Scrying 3: Will show you anything you want to know, but the information is often unclear or vague, and can be blocked by medium-level magic>Scrying 4: Will give you most of the information, but can miss out on details, and can be blocked by high-level magic>Scrying 5: Tells you absolutely anything in full detail, can only be blocked by casters of Jafar's power or above
Glad to see that we're still rolling along, and that we are, as the title indicates, so close to beta. I've had to take a bit of a break from fluffing due to burn out, but I'm following along and contributing where I can. Hopefully tomorrow I'll be recharged enough to write something. Aside from KLRs, what would everyone like to see?>Trekking Through the Fae Briarwoods>Clarisse Under the Stairs>Joining Mulan the Undying's Spiritual Rebellion>Pirates and Punchfairies> Write in and YOU decide!
>>36330046Forgot to add:>Scrying 2 is also generally vague - see most verbal prophecies
>>36330075>>36330101>>36330189That wasn't the picture I had wanted to post, but it's funny enough.You fellows have any particular Mulan fluff in mind? The original idea was a no-name farmboy recruit getting talked down to by the undead general for the first time, but I'm open to any suggestions or preferences.
>>36330259That sounds a-ok to me.
>>36330259Shan Yu destroying an ancestral shrine, killing a gold dragon
>>36329838>Statting up Inner Circle-level enemiesYou mean like Lackeys and above right? I think I could help with that.Also here's a trait I thought of>Just do it (Better name needed)>+1 Athletics and Acrobatics when playing what is considered a sport
>>36330424>The hip! The hip!Road to el dorado
>>36330424Above lackeys. Of course, by that point they deserve their own statblocks, traits, powers, and skills...
>>36330484So villains, 1-3 per King, right?
>Enhanced Choreography - Whenever you play music, the people around you dance like they practiced for days. +2 Acrobatics while dancing in the middle of a song.>Dramatic Poses - +1 Intimidation when you roll it with Robustness instead of Charm.
>>36330621More like 4-6, but yeah. more depending on how much territory they rule.
>>36330645Hmm, okay. That does mean we're gonna have to take some artistic liberties though.I'll get started in about an hour, gotta go help a friend move some furniture.
>>36330283>>36330348I think I might go with my original idea, and use Jin'Dal's suggestion as the circumstances around which the story is set. I'll begin work on it tonight and will try to have something ready for tomorrow. I wish it could be faster, but I'm feeling just a bit toasted from the breakneck pace we've been setting.
>>36329887I do, and I'm not doing it as often since I'm also working on the Almanac. (link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kI-I-ClcaZc4YPFQzmExOxfqzHAsLOkqLnKufm9Ty5c/edit?usp=sharing 0 )Be patient, mang. I'm focusing on one thing at a time. and I'm saving the posts.
>>36330853"artistic liberties" might as well be the name of this thread. We should remember to leave 1-2 villain slots blank for the GM to improvise on if they want.I'm going through the traits list right now and balancing things, though I'll try and help later.How many Inner Circle to a villain? Less than ten, probably, but how many less?
>>36329767Hey Nob, do you have the full quest notes for the playtests if I want to run them? I want to take a crack at it sometime soon and I don't want to try to come up with something that might not work.
Fun fact: in it's original context, 'cold iron' was a euphemism like 'hot lead'; really, you could harm a fae with a steel weapon as easily as with any other sort of iron-based weapon, but then some guys came along and said "No no, it has to be SPESHUL iron."Anyhow, I'm going to try to plunk out the tale of the Blue Knight.
>>36331161I've got the quest notes for the No One adventure, let me see if I can drag it up for you.
>>36329726Question: What would we consider people like Iago or Kronk or Ice!Anna
>>36331725Not sure who Lago is. Kronk would be Villain-status, Ice Anna probably can't fight whatsoever.
>>36331113Cool, that's all I needed to know. :)
>>36331725That's a good question. I think Ice!Anna would be best cast as a On-A-Roll PC, whereas Kronk would be a Villain in his own right, although not so much an administrator as a personal servant -- the Kronk!Clones are all Lackeys, or even mooks.
>>36331746I think you'll find the term is Kronk Klone. Or just Klone.
>>36331743I think he means Iago with an i. You know, Jafar's parrot.
>>36331161Here, the basic notes for the adventure. Will likely need to be partially improvised upon.http://pastebin.com/BH1uekxb
>>36331746Which reminds me, speaking of the Kronk Klones: What kind of armies do we have for the villains who didn't have any in the film? I'd see Yzma's forces as being made up of huge numbers of conscripted peasants, more well-trained warrior chimerae (http://pastebin.com/B8SkUwWB), a few monsters and for shock troops, the Kronk Klones. I'd say that they breed specific chimerae for specific purposes. So Snake Chimerae are assassins, Horse Chimerae are scouts, etc.By the way, how come Bird Chimerae don't get flight? I propose we replace the insect chimerae thing with some kind of stinging attack or something similar, and give flight to the birds. Maybe not, but that's just my opinion.
>>36331743I would probably be tempted, personally, to stat them out as NPC hero allies that the PCs could inlist to aid them in their related campaigns, just like Mulan the Undying. I feel like we could use a few NPC allies.
>>36331939Birds are supposed to get flight. That's a rough version, since all the animals aren't complete yet.
>>36331969Also, this may or may not be a stupid, broken idea, but maybe people could pick which animal traits they want to use? For example, with Qasi in the playtest, he was just a regular guy with some scales, snake eyes and forked teeth. Gift of Kaa would have fitted him a lot more than Cold-Blooded, therefore. Not to mention Gift of Kaa is great for a sensible guy, considering it lets me essentially cast Hypnotism 1 at will.
>>36331939Here's a short list of what the army of each nation would look like, for the ones that would reasonably have one.Jafar - Big black-wearing arab sterotypes, using scimitars. Possibly have some mages here and there.Maleficent - No actual army, but powerful Fae head her call.Grimhilde - Well organized, official army with detailed rankings and good training. Think a Renaissance-like army, except without muskets.Horned King - A giant mob of skellingtons in true lich fashion. Has some wight 'Commanders'.La - Nothing. She's a druid.Elsa - All frozen. If thawed, think basic Napoleonic for everything from uniforms to organization and weapons. Probably quite a few.Frollo - No real army, Inquisitors can rile up significant amounts of zealots when needed.Tzekel-Kan - Disorganized Aztec warriors with some elites leading them. Shan Yu - The Hunnic army, self-evident.Rourke - Small amounts of extremely well-trained and equipped mercenaries and some natural-trained soldiers.Slim - N/AHuntsmen - N/AEITC - Decent amounts of well-trained musket-toting soldiers, bolstered with native jannissaries.Hades - I'm not actually sure.Ursula - Mermen and sharks and lovecraftian horrors.Chernabog - pffffthahahaAurora - No real army, but many scattered tribes heed the call of the spirits.Beast kings - Nothing really for any of them, but can call upon great amounts of powerful animals to fight if needed.
>>36331374>>36331921Hmm, I was thinking of just doing a one-shot with a more familiar Disney setting, just so the players get used to the setting.But thanks for the notes, though, they'll help either way.
>>36332094>castIt's like you're trying to enrage me.But seriously;The issue at hand is that Gift of Kaa is much, much more powerful than the rest of the given traits from Chimeric, and in fact the rest of the Snake traits are balanced AROUND Gift of Kaa, to make up for it being very, very strong.There is something to be said for giving people multiple options from the parent animal group, though. It's only really broken in the context of a few animal groups.
>>36332178I seem to remember hearing something Jafar having living illusions and djinn in his ranks.Also, Elsa's army is the Snowlems, right? Also, didn't we decide Grimhilde's army was made of two main forces called the Huntsmen and the Mirror Guard? (This is why we call the EGHC guys Hunters, not Huntsmen. Gets confusing otherwise.)>>36332183True. It is pretty powerful.
>>36332181I'll see if I can find the other oneshot notes if you want to figure it out from those but the general sketch for an adventure to me is the following;Introduction>first dangerous scenario/leadup>breather period and exploration>second dangerous scenario>rising tension>confrontation with a boss monster/enemy.Players in general can dispatch 1.8 Mooks a turn, more if they have charming characters.So: 3 players can usually take 4 mooks easily, 4 can take 6 easily, and 5 can take 8 easily.Lackeys should be used somewhat sparingly, but enough that they're a threat -- surround them with (player numbers+1) Mooks and let them have mooks take the hit for them somehow.
>>36332246The Snowlems aren't an 'army', par se, and they'd probably melt once the massive blizzard stopped. They're more like the insane, uncontrollable accidental creations of Elsa than an actual army.
>>>36329726 (OP)Maybe Slim has no regular army but can call pretty much any posse and gang in his territory to arms, while the huntsmen could have rookies to use as meat shields.
>>36332178Tzekel-Kan should have lightly armored but very fast and organized Eagle Scouts and jaguar warriors with extremely slow and dull stone statues that are almost impervious to damage.And Slim should get tons of shady sheriffs and deputies. Maybe he even enslaved the Native American tribes and uses them as rifle toting conscripts. Or didn't enslave them. Either way.
>>36332340meant to quote>>36332178
>>36332178You forgot Ratcliffe and his trigger happy colonist militia.
>>36332246Facilier; Raiders, the desperate, and perhaps some actual soldiers to work alongside shadow spirits.The huns: Probably just hunnic soldiers. Base them off mongolians if you need to be historically accurate.Maleficent: the Fae. Varied forms, usually magically powerful.Horned King: Cauldronborn.Frollo: Soldiers, good catholics, but especially inquisitors. Atlantis has an actual army, but mostly comprised of mercenaries.Agrabah has soldiers to complement the magical servants of JafarChurn-n-whirl doesn't really need an army, but demons harry people who travel through BALD MOUNTAIN.
>>36332409Oh yeah, I did forgot Radcliffe. My bad.>>36332340Yeah, that'd be pretty accurate.
So let's say I want to run a Prydain campaign. The Cauldronborn are Lackeys, as they should be; obviously,a bunch of starting PCs stand a strong chance of being done in if they have to go up against dozens of Cauldronborn all the time. What circumstance should I put into place to ensure that, at least until they're ready, the PCs have to deal with the Horned King's human warriors instead of his Cauldronborn?
>>36332676Could always make it so that they are starting faaaaar off from the center, like just crossing borders where the humans who swore allegiance still live.either that, or throw them near the Land of the Bear. The ones that are smart manage to survive better than the mindless cauldronborn
>>36332676I still think that making a bunch of skelletons in ancient armor and weapons with no brain lackeys is retarded. Just have them revive at some point, they dont need ti be lackeys.
>>36332735They're some pretty badass skeletons as far as mindless armies go, if I remember correctlyMaking them lackeys sounds reasonable. Of course any GM can just rule them out as mooks and be done with it
>>36332178Don't forget La's leopard men.
For the Horned King, would Gwythiants be Villains or Lackeys?
>>36333327I still think they should be Lackeys, but if the Cauldronborn are lackeys then they would be inner circle, I suppose.
>>36333638Or just tougher lackeysBut inner circle probably fits better.
>>36331939I'm really looking forward to Chimera.
Okay, I've edited and balanced the traits in the Generic Traits pastebin. Tell me what you think.http://pastebin.com/TJXncd7A>>36334220The principal issue is a lack of animal types to add to Chimeras that I should really get around to but am too lazy to do.
>>36331939Recruitment process for both conscripted peasants and monster Chimerae:Yzma will release an experimental monster within the Tributaries. Those humans who participate in defeating it will be recruited. If they can't defeat the monster within a week, or it lasts longer than two days, it'll be recruited. After a week, the Klones get sent in.
>>36329726Heres a idea for the Huns: they were forced to invade China becausr of Cherny Bogs
>>36334617We already had this idea a long time ago, so it's nothing new.
>>36334704No need to push people out because of that, though.
>>36334745I was just pointing that out, I wasn't trying to push anyone out.
>>36334704So did we ever decide what would happen to them after being then?
>>36335009A lot of stuff is still up in the air. I personally like it because it adds a bit of a personal touch to Cherrybomb, who is otherwise content to just sit there and feast on the world's suffering.
Is flight a skill or trait exclusive to beasts?And what counts towards flight? Acrobatics?
>>36335248Acrobatics, if you need to do something fancy, or Athletics if it's just swooping, etc. It's just a type of movement like swimming and land movement.
>>36335310So, for someone with high Acrobatics and low Athletics, doing something fancy would be easier than just swooping?
>>36335377Yes, but swooping would be inherently easier than fancy tricks, methinks. A high Athletics requirement for a swoop would involve braking and turns with much brute force required, like quickly stopping to land after taking a long dive.
>>36335440So you don't roll for swooping, or do you get a huge bonus to it?
>>36335485Most, and that's the key word, most, swooping checks would have lower TNs than most fancy stuff checks would.
>>36335377Example of high acrobatics, low athletics flight: Anything that hovers, particularly bumblebees and dragonfliesExample of low acrobatics, high athletics: Falcons, eagles, other fast birds>>36335485>>36335526Exactly. TN15 should probably be the standard for swooping at a decent speed.
'Nother update on magic: We now have Hypnotism sorted!>Hypnotism 1: Can make a suggestion sound better to somebody, can magically draw somebody's attention through eye contact, can be resisted by force of will, can be undone by magic>Hypnotism 2: Can convince somebody to perform a simple action that doesn't seem disagreeable, can magically hold somebody's attention through eye contact, can be resisted by force of will, can be undone by magic>Hypnotism 3: Can convince somebody to perform any action not directly harmful to themselves, can magically distract or freeze somebody through eye contact, can be resisted by force of will, can be undone by magic>Hypnotism 4: Can convince somebody to hurt or kill themselves, can magically knock somebody out through continued eye contact, can be undone or resisted through magic>Hypnotism 5: Can completely rewrite somebody's personality, can put somebody into a possibly permanent coma through eye contact, cannot be undone or resisted without extremely powerful magic
>>36335792For example: Somebody could use hypnosis 5 and then vividly describe to you a horrific war scene. When the spell takes effect, you will have post traumatic stress disorder until either the spell is broken or another hypnotist removes the memories. PCs probably won't get this kind of magic. Like, seriously, we're talking Jafar tier hypnotism.
>>36335844The fact that he had to resort to asking the Genie to make Jasmine fall in love with him says even as the most powerful sorcerer in the world he did not have access to Hypnotism 5. The staff we see him controlling the Sultan with I'd put at Hypnotism 3.
>>36335915True. But this is after he's levelled up. Since he became the greatest sorcerer in the world, I'd say a suitably Jafar-esque wish when he couldn't make Jasmine love him would be for the power to make people do whatever he wants. And so that's what he got.
>>36335959But because it's an extension of the genie's powers, wouldn't that Hypnotism 5 still be unable to make anyone fall in love?
>>36336034I don't know. I mean, technically he's wishing for the CAPABILITY to make Jasmine love him, rather than asking the Genie to do it. It's like Aladdin wishing to be rich so she can marry him.
>>36335915AgreedRumor millEvinrude>dead>was recruited by Jiminy Cricket to help be a conscience for humanity but was driven out of New Orleans or killed by the shadow men >runs a boating service for any animals trying to get to Mama Odie>part of the rescue and truth society>works with Raymond to locate and help any animal refugees, spy on New Orleans
>>36336054Aladdin making himself a prince only made the union legally and socio-economically viable, and had nothing to do with love. And there's the whole debate about whether a genie can override free will.....eh, it'll be something for the GM to decide.
Prince Eric—>His suicide cruise didn't end up so well, Ursula smashed his boat and the prince drowned in the maelstrom.>actually married disguised Ursula and is still hypnotized, serving as one of Ursula's few land holdings>married disguised Ursula, not hypnotized, but convinced his wife was killed by Atlanteans. Ursula claims she can bring back his "wife" from Davy Jones locker if Eric is able to strike a blow against Atlantis>sailed home when Ursula got the trident, only an idiot would charge straight in. He now looks for a way to kill Ursula and rescue Ariel
>>36336404Holy shit, I never thought I'd see such a perfect 'cold feet' face from Disney.
>>36336208Someone had the idea to extend the three genie rules to be more general and avoid overpowered OC's or loopholes. Like no overriding free will (not only love), no beaten almost dead (for no killing), and no necromancy or dark magic or something (for no resurrection.) Something about being free may mess with their powers.
>>36336504>overpowered OCsVillains are supposed to be overpowered. The heroes will eventually match them through their own ROBUSTNESS.Ideally, we shouldn't allow anything but the most powerful of magicks to overpower a heroes ability to spend a Will point and shrug off mind control/fear etc.also, is necromancy even a thing in Disney outside of the black cauldron?
>>36336479Damn you work fastWhat movies are needing rumor mill? My computer shows up next week so in kind of stuck with these until it arrives.
>>36336504And if the genies can't do those things themselves, does it sense for them to be able to grant them the ability to do so to others?>>36336604Facilier and others have voodoo, so there should be zombies if nothing else.
>>36336628Not every MSPaint edit takes TEN THOUSAND YYYYYEEEAAAAARRRRSSSSS.As to rumor mills, no one from the Black Cauldron other than Taran has any substantial rumor mills.
Alright, made a Villain for the Horned King, lets see if this works. I should mention the guide to Villains isn't very clear, and should probably be reformated and rewritten.Name: Great GwythaintRole: VillainClass: MOTHERFUCKIN' DRAGONSize: GiganticSpecies: Beast---Attributes---Robustness: 9/14Agility: 15/14Intelligence: 4/14Sensibility: 9/14Charm: 3/14Will: 3/3Strikes: 3+X2, where X is number of party members.---Skills---Acrobatics: 7Athletics: 7Intimidate: 7Brawl: 6 + 2 counting Natural Weapons.Prevent Harm: 6Endure: 6---Traits----FlightObviously it can fly. That's just the nature of the beast.-Bull Charge+2 to Brawl when charging into combat.-Think You Hide from Me?+2 to Insight when attempting to detect people in Stealth. (Alternatively, people trying to hide from you suffer a -2 to their Stealth rolls, whichever works better.)-Natural WeaponsTalons, horns, and teeth provide a +2 to Brawl.---Powers----Sonic Roar (Unique!)Spend one Will point. Deal one Social Strike to all living units in 30m area. Can only be used during suprise round or on the Great Gw first turn.-Dive, Dive, Dive!Unit gains a +1 to Brawl and a +1 to Initiative and charges down from above.Physical Description/Background: 25ft. long from head to tail. 20ft. tall. 30ft. wingspan. This black-scaled terror of the skies is the Horned King's most feared and loyal pet. Raised to strike fast, hard, and then run, the Great Gwythaint's initial attack is devastating, however, it's attack decreases in power after the initial roar and charge, and it's scales aren't as hard as a regular wyvern's.What do you guys think? Too OP? Too weak?And by the way, I think all Villains should have a power unique to them. They are the right hand men of the Kings, after all.
>>36336738Let's take a look;This is a very low power Villain, perhaps it should be downgraded to Inner Circle.Number of strikes math is off, should probably be 8+x*2, where X is the number of party members so it survives more than one round of beatin'.Skills look good.Traits look good.Powers look... reasonable. I don't like automatic strikes at all, but it's got a harsh limitation and it's an enemy, so it gets to disregard standard rules.Dive, dive, dive! needs to have it's bonuses upgraded to two -- at the moment, it's barely a bonus.Honestly, given the playtests I'm gonna have to say scrap the old Inner Circle rules, push the Villain Rules to Inner Circle, and make Villains really, really tough.
>>36336738Unavoidable damage gives me the tingles.
>>36336794Low powered?WhatThis is the ules for Villains taken straight from the wiki>Villain: A serious threat; this person has likely been appointed by the King of their Land themselves, and should not be taken lightly. Should probably have a background and their own unique stat block by this point. Most will require a unique way to defeat them. Remember to give them a Class! Robustness: 9/14 Agility: 9/14 Intelligence: 9/14 Sensibility: 9/14 Charm: 12/14 Will: 3 Strikes: 3+2 for every member in the party. Skills: 7 in skills related to their job. 6 in (weapon skill), Prevent Harm, Endure. 5 in all other skills. Traits: Any three, from any list. Powers: Any two, from any list and at least one from the Enemy List. Attributes: This enemy is configured for early On-a-roll heroes. Add up to ten more attribute points to represent higher level On-a-roll enemies and Hero-tier enemies.
>>36336869Yes. Those rules were written before the first playtest, before we figured out how incredibly, monstrously lethal the average player is.We're talking beat-an-Inner Circle-in-one-turn here.
>>36336869God, calm down: the rules on the 1d4chan page have never been playtested, so it's normal that, by following them to the letter, you may end up with an underpowered villain.
>>36336604Yes villains must be a challenge, how much of a challenge would they be if the heroes found a genie/ -made a genie PC and just wished for the bad guy to loose all his power/turn into a weakling, and then wish for him to appear before them?
>>36336893>>36336922Then we should update them.
>>36336738I'd write a Gwythaint as an Inner Circle, have Lesser Gwythaint up as a Lackey, and call the Villain version a Greater Gwythaint.Anyhow, this statline would work well for an Inner Circle level Gwythaint, just bump Robustness, Agility and Sensibility up by 3 each and throw on a few more traits for a Major Gwythaint.
>>36336922>>36336893Oh ok. This is why I said the rules for villains should probably be rewriten.Let me edit it to make it more powerful then.
>>36336965Calm down, it's being worked on.
>>36336965yes, we should.Once we actually crunch the rules. I could get right on it, and I'll take a quick crack at it in a moment.>>36336994Don't forget to add +2 Robustness for Giant size, and +2 Robustness cap!>>36336971Also, like, double the strikes. There are like, 4-6 villains for each King in total -- they should be hard to take down.
>>36336955Genie PCs should be nerfed on account of being lampless, and finding a genie with a lamp should be as hard as taking down a villain by conventional methods.
>>36336994Name: Great GwythaintRole: VillainClass: MOTHERFUCKIN' DRAGONSize: GiganticSpecies: Beast---Attributes---Robustness: 13/16Agility: 18/14 (SANIC SPEED)Intelligence: 5/14Sensibility: 12/14Charm: 3/14Will: 3/3Strikes: 8+X2, where X is number of party members.---Skills---Acrobatics: 7Athletics: 7Intimidate: 7Brawl: 6 + 2 counting Natural Weapons.Prevent Harm: 6Endure: 6---Traits----FlightObviously it can fly. That's just the nature of the beast.-Bull Charge+2 to Brawl when charging into combat.-Think You Hide from Me?+2 to Insight when attempting to detect people in Stealth. (Alternatively, people trying to hide from you suffer a -2 to their Stealth rolls, whichever works better.)-Natural WeaponsTalons, horns, and teeth provide a +2 to Brawl.---Powers----Sonic Roar (Unique!)Spend one Will point. Deal one Social Strike to all living units in 30m area. Can only be used during suprise round or on the Great Gw first turn.-Dive, Dive, Dive!Unit gains a +2 to Brawl and a +2 to Initiative and charges from above.Physical Description/Background: 25ft. long from head to tail. 20ft. tall. 30ft. wingspan. This black-scaled terror of the skies is the Horned King's most feared and loyal pet. Raised to strike fast, hard, and then run, the Great Gwythaint's initial attack is devastating, however, it's attack decreases in power after the initial roar and charge, and it's scales aren't as hard as a regular wyvern's.Good yet? Does it need more power, traits, anything?
Writing some rumor mill stuffBen and Lon (Ben has black hair, Lon has red)____>Still alive>Still working as regular men in the Virginia colony with Thomas, mildly discontent at Radcliffe's rule>Ben went back to England before the Horned King came, Lon stayed in the colony>Edged on by the Indian's execution of their friend Smith, Ben and Lon went on to become prominent war heroes, killing scores of the Natives each, and were appointed to minor government positions as a show of Radcliffe's thanks.___>Dead>Ben was framed for treason by Radcliffe and hung, while Lon laments two of his friend's deaths (Or three if Thomas is dead).>Both died in the war against the Indians.
>>36337022Genies are fine at the moment, all they have is +2 Robustness and Genie Magicks! (Manipulate 1kg of matter over a minute).Anway, quick crack at Inner Circle rules; Inner Circle enemies are usually individually tougher than players, and should be statted as such with an average stat of 9.5, and an average skill rank of 6, average strikes of 4+X*2, where X is the number of players in the party, and at least two Will Points. Inner Circle should have three traits and two powers, and all but the least powerful should have a Role, gaining the benefits of that role. >>36337163I'd say make it a bit stronger by giving it a Trait that increases Prevent Harm and Endure rolls by 2 (A villain trait, obviously. Too good for the heroes). As it stands ,it rolls +24 on Prevent Harm and Brawl rolls, so it should be okay.You do need to give it a Role and it's powers, though. I think Nimble Guy works best here, since that gives you 4d6k3 on Agile rolls.
>>36337226Thomas___>Still alive>A more vocal activist than Ben and Lon under Radcliffe's rule, but still working as a normal citizen.>After the mass genocide by the English of the Natives, Thomas fled further west to attempt to repent for his personal killing of one in the war.>While still working for Radcliffe, Thomas feels terrible about the deaths of the native population, and is trying to gather support for an underground resistance against Radcliffe (Of which there is little support due to the New World's wealth keeping many happy).___>Dead>Thomas was executed for pro-native sentiment after the war by Radcliffe.
Fflewddur FflamTaking some inspiration from the books>still in the Horned Kings dungeons >was released with the understanding that if he used his bard abilities to spread the message of the Horned King then his small kingdom would be spared>escaped the dungeon and is now convinced that the return of King Arthur is the only thing that could save Prydian, he will gladly help or join any party seeking to find the true king>returned to his kingdom with his tongue cut out and his fingers cutoff, he now is fed spare scraps by his past subjects>lives with the faeries
>>36337163Let's see....flight speed of 41, Brawl and Prevent Harm total bonuses of 26 and 24, Athletics, Acrobatics, Endure and Intimidate checks in the 20s, upwards of 10 strikes.....system master I am not, but that looks intimidating to me as a PC.
>>36337303Chief Powhatan____>Still alive>Ran from battle like a coward after it became clear that the English had the upper hand by miles, now living with a tribe of Indians in the Old West.____>Dead>You best believe he's dead. After openly executing John Smith in front of the colonists, the settlers made sure to aim for him, his existence a reminder of the savagery of the natives against all white men.
>>36337371Forgot my image.
>>36337256Aight, (hopefully) final version.Name: Great GwythaintRole: Villain/Nimble GuyClass: MOTHERFUCKIN' DRAGONSize: GiganticSpecies: Beast---Attributes---Robustness: 13/16Agility: 18/14 (SANIC SPEED)Intelligence: 5/14Sensibility: 12/14Charm: 3/14Will: 3/3Strikes: 8+X2, where X is number of party members.---Skills---Acrobatics: 7 + 1 counting role.Athletics: 7Intimidate: 7Brawl: 6 + 2 counting Natural Weapons.Prevent Harm: 6 + 2 from Villain trait.Endure: 6 + 2 from Villain trait.---Traits----FlightObviously it can fly. That's just the nature of the beast.-Bull Charge+2 to Brawl when charging into combat.-Think You Hide from Me?+2 to Insight when attempting to detect people in Stealth. (Alternatively, people trying to hide from you suffer a -2 to their Stealth rolls, whichever works better.)-Natural WeaponsTalons, horns, and teeth provide a +2 to Brawl.-VillainThis unit is a Villain. It gets +2 to Prevent Harm and Endurance. ---Powers----Sonic Roar (Unique!)Spend one Will point. Deal one Social Strike to all living units in 30m area. Can only be used during suprise round or on the Great Gw first turn.-Dive, Dive, Dive!Unit gains a +2 to Brawl and a +2 to Initiative and charges from above.Physical Description/Background: 25ft. long from head to tail. 20ft. tall. 30ft. wingspan. This black-scaled terror of the skies is the Horned King's most feared and loyal pet. Raised to strike fast, hard, and then run, the Great Gwythaint's initial attack is devastating, however, it's attack decreases in power after the initial roar and charge, and it's scales aren't as hard as a regular wyvern's. Don't think you can hide from it however. Many have tried to do that. None survived.
>>36337432Looks good. I could playtest it, but the numbers alone tell me it'd body a starting group and get ~2-3 strikes, tops since it gets 4 (4!) actions a round.
>>36337371>>36337400Shaman Kekatan___>Still alive>Kekatan escaped the genocide of the Indians due to a younger warrior helping him leave, and now lives in the forest with a very small group of the survivors of the genocide. It's said he still plans revenge, and has been making deals with many nefarious groups to murder the 'demons' that he feels took his home and people.>Kekatan fled to the Old West, and now lives with one of the Indian tribes there.___>Dead>The old Shaman was shot dead by the Englishmen upon burning down the many villages, lumped in with the rest.
>>36337476Well I have been thinking about rewriting the Knights of the Round Table as On A Roll heroes, since they need to be reformatted anyways. Did we agree how many lessons a PC that starts at On A Roll should have?
>>36337531Absolutely nothing.I'd say ~50, let's make it a nice round number.Heroes probably have 100-125.
>>36337554For a long campaign, I assume.
>>36337554Which reminds me; we'd need to change how quickly you get powers. It's fine for Quick progression right now, but Medium and Slow progression need to take longer to get powers, otherwise On-a-roll heroes start with, like, 8 powers.>>36337569Yes. This is assuming Slow progression. For Medium, i'd say 35-40 and 80, and for Quick 25 and 60.
>>36337476Great. Should I make a Villains and Kings unit page?Mooks, Lackeys, and Inner Circle enemiez should get their own too.
>>36337592By the way, is this balanced enough?Chivalry: +3 to all social skills so long as you have not broken the warrior's code of your own culture in the current session, and a permanent -8 to deceit.
>>36337371if the Indians had fought the English all out like they were going to in the movie they would have slaughtered every last white. The English came aboard a single vessel. Columbus's vessel carried about twenty men each. A ship the size of Radcliffe's would carry like, 50 tops. and thats if they only were carrying food and water and no supplies for when they got there.
Dallben the Enchanter of Prydian>killed by the Horned King>trapped by the Horned King, many believe that he is being used to increase the range of the cauldron's mist>traveling with Merlin>it is said that Dallben is working on a spell of unimaginable proportions, it's intended effects unknown. Many hope it will be a spell to defeat the horned king but no one knows for sure. Th Horned King has promised a mountain of gold to whomever brings him Dallben's head
>>36337702Yes, as long as you exclude Deceit from the category of "all social skills".>>36337680Make it on 1d4chan, sure. I'm working on the Villain rules right now, but the idea Inner Circle rules still need some work.
>>36337702Well, considering that almost every warrior culture did not appreciate liars (even the Spartans didn't like the ones who got caught), perhaps we should to the flat +2 to persuasion and intimidate.
>>36337726True but remember Cherno's magic is afoot. I would expand on what the anon posted because it could have gone many different ways
>>36337765Dammit, I cut it off. It says '464 Boers' and 'three wounded'.
>>36337765Nah, the number disparity is too great. And the British force in your post was highly trained and motivated with much better weapons. Only way Radcliffe could have won was through Cherno's meddling.
>>36337773Yep.>>36337785It's more of a 'I designed this trait for my character is it ok' thing, because music is a social skill as well, and I think that breaking the code of Chivalry once disabling the bonus for the entire session with that ridiculously large penalty to deceit makes it pretty balanced.
>>36337851If there were just 50 men on the ENTIRE colony (There were more in crowd shots), then it would take 2200 Indians in that one village to create an equal force to the one in that battle. Suggesting that the Indians would have won is ludicrous. Literally every example in history of wars where one smaller side had guns against a larger force without guns supports that the guys who have guns win.
For the sake of future stating, I gotta askHow buttfucking would be an enemy with stats on the 26~29s and 30 on the max? Hero level only, of course
>>36337938That's at least +26, before you add any skills/traits/powers.The average hero tier character gets +20 to their chosen skill, even with traits but without powers.So, scary. Really scary. But beatable, if you give them no skills or only contest PCs in their chosen areas with powers.
>>36337938This >>36337432is apparently (Not playtested yet) a decent villain.So absolutely massive buttfuckery.
>>36338018>Expecting hero enemies to not have maxed out Prevent Harm, Athletics and Acrobatics at leastThe pcs shall know fear
>>36337935They had called in allies so it was a much larger force, the Indians had the high ground, and again there is a huge difference between the levels of tech we're talking about. In addition the British have lost to enemies without guns and cannon, like the horrible massacre in Afghanistan in 1840 something. It would have been a tough fight but the Indians would have curb stomped the fight as it was portrayed in the movie
>>36338018Guys, you need to help me think of a good oneshot idea/locale for the PCs:Mammoth Charming GuySnake Smart Guy Wolf Strong Guy
King Eidilleg>killed by the horned king>kept in a cage in the horned king's throne room>fled with all his people to the Far Quuen's lands>fled to the land of the Blue Fairy
>>36338127Re-watching the 'Savages' scene-There's roughly 300 Indians. Maybe 400 at most. The vast majority have a single spear, there are at most 50 with bows.(Did you know that knights could take 50+ arrows from LONGBOWS in a battle while wearing armor and not feel any of them?) All are wearing only loincloths. They are on a cliff.There's roughly 85 hearty male colonists, all armed with good armor and rifles of the era. They have 20 canons-ish.20 CANONS.Hint: the Indians don't win.
>>36338229Meh, maybe I'm wrong. Fair enough. But a force armed with bows can win against a force with guns, that much is true. But I'm willing to admit I can be wrong about the outcome of this battle.
>>36338229>(Did you know that knights could take 50+ arrows from LONGBOWS in a battle while wearing armor and not feel any of them?)I'm just gonna say thisThat sounds like complete bullshit.
>>36338310That is an impressive feat on 4chan.>>36338358http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3997HZuWjkThere are medieval accounts of knights that 'looked like porcupines for there were so many arrows in their armor'.
>>36338408Huh. Well whad'ya know? Learn something new everyday.
You're all doing a great job.
>>36338645THANKS ANON-KUN-SENPAI-CHAN!Also Madam Mim works under the Horned King, right? Think I may stat her or a different Horned King villain next.
>>36338645Thanks anon.Can we have a serious discussion on Heroic traits now? I think with Nob's balancing out of the normal traits list and the ability to write-in a trait as long as it's balanced that we're pretty damn good on normal traits, but we still only have, what, five heroic ones?
>>36338705What are the heroic traits we have
>>36338832Ask Nob.Also, Plane, looking at the songs google doc it looks like you put the anthem for Grimhilde in, but not any of the other national anthems. It seems pretty weird to only put one in instead of none or all, just saying.
Atlantean Writefag back again. Got another bit of fluff hammered out for you folks--a bit longer than the other parts. Y'all interested?
>>36338832Well, we have Last Stand, which gives you +8 to all rolls when on no strikes remaining or one strike remaining, Strength Of The Mountain which gives +5 to Prevent Harm, (Insert edgy name here): +4 to Ranged or Melee attacks per will point spent this round, From the Heart: +7 to Persuasion and diplomatic rolls, if the character genuinely believes in what s/he says, and Voice of Thunder: +6 to Music.They need to give TERRIFYING bonuses, roughly on the level of +1.5d6 to +2d6, so between 4.5 and 7.We need to decide an adequate level for those to be balanced on par with.Heroic powers should be equally bonkers, with stuff like 'spend a willpoint to get +10 to (roll type)!"
>>36339114When are we ever not?>>36339127>Persuasion and diplomaticSo just Persuasion? The other traits look great, though.
So I went looking for madam mim pictures. Boy did I find some. I forgot how milfy she got....Anywho!Madam Mim!>Serves the Horned King>wanders through the realms royally screwing with people, her pranks are the stuff of legends>thoroughly pissed that the horned king is in control, as the cauldronborn are no fun to mess withPart 2 coming up with diff pic
>tales are told of her luring away young men and women seeking to join Arthur or Taran and sucking them dry of their life force>usually unwilling to make a deal unless it involves pulling one over on the horned king. Makes exceptions for males in their teens or older men with long beards.>her house is filled with animals, all lost men unlucky enough to have fallen into her grasp. She is VERY possessive of her pets>most often seen partying it up in New Orleans if not in England
>>36339127>PUNCH OF FRIENDSHIP AND HOPE>Requisites:>Can only be used with one or no strikes remaining>Can only be used when all allies are downed>Can only be used when in intense desperation>Effects:>Transfers all stats into Robustness and Brawl skill, points are divided by two into the two stats>All stat bonus now effect Robustness and Brawl>Makes a combat roll against chosen target
>>36339445That is a +70 bonus for a starting character.
>>36339509Yep.It's a last resort against a King.
>>36339168Well, I'll be plugging this away as I go, then.--The journey had resumed shortly before daybreak, true to the captian’s orders and just as the first engineering teams began setting up shop in the abandoned homes and storefronts. Soldiers, riding in trucks or jeeps or sitting atop tanks, trickled across the harbor, the heavier trucks needing to gingerly pick their way across the ice to ensure they weren’t swallowed up passing over a thin spot in the ice. The group had begun quietly, the fire doused and any trace of the team’s stay swept clean. By mid-day, when the first of the regular infantry had begun to sweep the castle, they found no sign of the soldiers that had stayed near the grounds the night before, save several wine bottle stuck in a mound of snow, a letter for the admiral tied around one of the bottle’s necks.Thach’s squad, in contrast, found themselves in the middle of the snow-covered forests surrounding the castle by the mid-day point. Anna led the way, the rest of the squad steadily following. As the day before, the land did not stir, the only sound coming from lungs drawing breath and boots crunching fresh powder underfoot. The scent of the pines was tempered by cold weather. Allyson took a drink out of her insulated canteen. “So Anna, remind me again how long it’s gonna take to get up to your sister’s castle.”
>>36339182>Serve the Horned KingIsn't that what happened to her?From the K/L/R>Rule: The Horned King's reaction to the players will depend on a number of factors. If they appear to bear nothing of value and be no threat, he will not waste his time with them. If they bring with them anything of great power or value, especially rare or one of a kind items, he will send a dozen Gwythaints to acquire it; those who come bearing technology or knowledge are often 'acquired' themselves. If they have felled so much as a single king or otherwise appear a threat (for instance, by carrying Dyrnwyn or Excalibur), he will likely throw everything he has at them: great armies of Cauldron Born, Mad Madam Mim, human servants seeking his favour, and huge flights of Gwythaints.>Mad Madam Mim
>>36339592“A day’s journey or so—two if we take a slow pace,” Anna said. “I don’t mind it either way; I just enjoy having some new company after so long!”“I don’t mind it if we take it slow,” Ezekiel said. “All this cold and the forests kinda reminds me o’home.”“Some of us enjoy temperatures that are above seventy-two, Zeke,” Kavita huffed.Catherine Beckett gazed wide-eyed at the snow-covered pines around her. “Such beauty in this land,” she said.Zoe cocked an eyebrow. “You always this awestruck when you step outside of the office, Miss Beckett?”“No, not really,” Catherine said, admiring how the snow had bowed the trunk of a young sapling. “I always take joy in my assignments, Miss Martin. There’s so much to see in the world, and the average human life has only so many years to offer. Why would I spend my adventuring years cooped up indoors when I could be roaming across the Great Plains of America or exploring the crowded bazaars of Cairo? I mean hell,” Catherine turned to face the whole squad, walking backwards, “why did you guys get into the mercenary business, anyway?”“There was no way I was going to join my Mat-im’s soapmaking business,” Martin replied.“The pay was great.” Kavita shrugged.“I thought it’d be nice to see the world a bit and send some money home to the folks at the same time,” Zeke said.
>>36339592>>36339642are they taking a vacation in canada or travelling through a place where temperatures reach low enough to kill a polar bear
>>36339642“I went in with a buddy.” Womack licked his teeth. “Then he went and got himself assigned on a string of anti-piracy contracts around Taiwan and the Philippines without me.”Pan snorted. “I needed to...get away from it all.”Catherine turned to the auburn squadleader. “What about you, Captain Thach?”“Service in the armed forces runs deep in my family, Miss Beckett,” the captain said. “For a long time, the men on my mother’s side of the family had all spent time with the Queen’s Own Rifles of Canada.”Catherine chuckled. “I didn’t take you for Canadian, Captain.”“Most people don’t.” The captain smiled. “The accent never stuck with me too well.”“It’s amazing you all come from such varied backgrounds!” The Anna statue clapped her hands together, making a dull “clunk” as ice slammed into ice. “I would loved to have visited lands from afar when I was still alive—the chance of melting really limits my ability to travel.”“Way I see it, ma’am, your travel options are much more open in the winter than they are in the summer,” Zeke said.“How much wider?”“Tons winder!” The blonde man grinned. “You’ve got Russia, most o’Europe, most o’Canada and the East Coast, the American Heartland—my home territory—and lotsa other choices.”“Zeke, summer weather to you would be considered winter weather to someone living right on the Equator,” Kavita chipped in.“Compare that to one hundred five in the Forbidden City,” Pan said. “Ninety percent humidity.”
>>36339608I missed that part, though who is to say if she's happy about it. She may have been given the option of serve or die, or she could be loyal to the Horned King, or working with him when it suits her fancy. I think it's still open to interpretation and the rumor mill gives a few of those. Thanks for pointing that out though.
Hey, just wondering but, how big Cherry Borg's realm again?I'll be honest when I last saw them he had a good portion of Russia, but since he's basically the final boss, I was thinking that this basically walls off alot of area for PCs to go that don't want to have to deal with evil itself (yet).
>>36339693It's a bit of both is how I'm taking it, getting harsher the higher up you go. You can't start off in the middle of the shit because then you cut off a lot of characterization off at the knees, of both the fleshbags and the setting as a whole.>>36339705“I’d kill for that kinda weather right now.” Kavita brushed her arms up and down.The snap of a tree branch hushed the conversation immediately. The squad dropped to a knee where they stood, while Anna chose to hide behind a tree. Rifles up, the squad scanned the forest in all directions. Seconds trickled by in the frigid air.It was Zoe that picked up on something first, clicking her tongue to get the squad’s attention. Thach stalked right next to the sniper as she brought her rifle up. The rifle itself might have been a Lee Enfield No.1 Mk3 in another life. The bolt action rifle had been heavily modified to accommodate Atlantean lightning technology, still further modified for Zoe’s role as squad marksman. The bolt action system had been done away with, favoring a semiautomatic fire mode. The receiver, once open to allow the working of the bolt, was now dominated by a thick metal cover over the top and covering the sides. The top of this new dust cover was dominated by the Atlantean Star, the symbol of Rourke’s new empire, over the top of which was stamped the production year of the rifle. Scope mounts had been mounted over the top of the receiver, allowing for Zoe’s choice of optic to be added.
So, Villain-statting guy here, what should I do for the Horned King next?>1. Colossal Undead Abomination>2. Creeper>3. Madam Mim (Villain? Satus)
>>36339838Markings along the left side of the receiver were proof marks of the Atlantean Ordnance Factories: a caricature of the Leviathan that had guarded the city for millenia alongside the Atlantean Runes for the initial of the ordnance factory, “AOF”. The rifle’s serial number was inscribed right after the proof marks. A row of 4 small cylinders sat on the stock on the left side of the rifle’s receiver, banded together on the rifle’s stock, wires protruding from the bottom of the cylinders snaking into the rear of what was once the magazine. The magazine had served its same function, though instead of carrying the venerable .303 British, it now stored the charge of Atlantean crystal energy. A power selector switch had been cut into the left side of the stock below where the receiver sat, with three settings: Low, Medium, and High.
>>36339997The most noticeable modifications to the rifle were to the barrel, upper handguard, and forend. The barrel had been bulked up considerably, an advancement to prevent the barrel from melting as the lightning was discharged. A new, barleycorn-type front sight sat atop the barrel. The wooden upper handguard was gone, replaced with a metal heat shield that covered the barrel and extended back toward the original rear sight base of the rifle, partitions made in the heat shield allowing usage of the standard rear sights. The forend had to be modified extensively to accommodate the bull barrel and heat shield, while still allowing ergonomic comfort to the standard infantryman.Initially, the Australian-Atlantean had considered the rifles unwieldy, heavy, fragile, and hazardous. The stopping power and range afforded by Atlantean plasma, however, made the maintenance worthwhile. She flicked off the safety with her thumb, regarding her squadleader with a slight nod. “By the bent pine tree at 100 meters to the north. He’s moving east to west.”Allyson fished her binoculars from her pack, zeroing in on the object in Zoe’s sights. The beast was covered in thick, shaggy fur. It stood on four cloven hooves, its body covered all over with frost. Smoke escaped from its maw in hungry gasps as it moved through the brush, occasionally digging its snout into the snow. Antlers, like tree branches, spread from its head. Thach frowned. “The moose?”
>>36340043Who is the faggot-looking guy in the picture?The way they're positioned makes me think he's some kind of shitty 2edgy OC who's super badass and attractive, but I'm not sure.
>>36340090That's a girl meng>>36340003Got it. Give me 10-20 minutes.
>>36340146I'm like, 90% sure that's a girl
>>36340043“No, it’s the Frost Dragon right behind the moose.”“Right, right.” Allyson continued peering at the moose through her binoculars.“Shall I light it up?”Thach blinked. “What?”“From this distance I could hit it with a clean lung shot. A low-power shot should be able to kill the thing without frying the meat.”“Zoe, that moose has to be at least seven hundred pounds. It’d be a waste.”“And the way I figure it, there’s seven mouths to feed that would gladly have some fresh meat instead of C-rats.” Zoe readjusted her aim on the moose as he ambled about.Thach looked at her marksman, then back to the squad. Then back at her marksman. Then back at the moose. Thach’s stomach let its opinion be known. The captain sighed. “Fire when ready.” She brought the binoculars back up to focus on the creature.Zoe’s breathing steadied and gradually slowed. Her finger curved around the trigger. She brought her crosshairs slowly on target. Inhale. Hold. Squeeze.A flash of blue-purple lightning streaked across the forest, impacting full force against the quadruped. What wasn’t expected by neither Thach, Martin, nor especially the moose, was the reaction. The seven hundred pound herbivore spectacularly and instantly exploded, showering the surrounding area in red. “Fucking Christ—!” Allyson shouted, reflexively turning away as moose bits were flung in every direction.
>>36340146Olivia Armstrong from Full Metal Alchemist, general in charge of guarding the Northern Border and leader of the Northern Army. Here's a pic of her with her brother during a fight.
>>36339988>>36340003Second......ish. We've accepted the giants from Mickey shorts into the setting, and they are indeed quite giant. A Cauldronborn one would make for an excellent Villain.
>>36340090Fullmetal Alchemist character--Olivier Armstrong.>>36340186The rest of the squad turned to the smoldering red spot where the animal once stood. “The hell did you people do?!” Womack tossed his hands into the air“What the fuck was that?” Kavita said.“Who did you shoot?” Catherine double-taked at the gore. “/What/ the hell did you shoot?”“There was a moose.” Zoe said simply, standing. “Now there isn’t one.”“Why, pray tell, were you shooting at a moose?” Zeke ambled up to the conversation.“What the Lieutenant is trying to say here is that you should consider this little...debacle...as a lesson on why you should not bring your standard Atlantean service rifle on hunting expeditions if you care about bringing back meat.” Thach observed Anna picking around the bloody scene.“Or trophies—Zo, what the heck, girl?” Kavita said.“I’m damn sure I put the power selector on Low...” the sniper’s voice trailed off as she looked at her rifle. Sure enough, the switch was set to the “Low” position. “Could be faulty wiring brought on by the cold weather,” Bernadette suggested. “Leaves our hardware running at full blast.”
>>36340321The ice statue acting as guide ran up to the group, partially charred moose leg in hand. “So /that’s/ what those weird sticks you guys are carrying do! I thought they were crossbows at first, but they didn’t look right for crossbows.” Anna waved the moose leg in the air. “I didn’t think lightning could do that to somebody. Good thing it wasn’t anything important, eh?” --We'll be taking an intermission here so I can grab some food.
Had computer problems this morning, then work.Any fluff or songs need to be added to the catalogues?
>>36340556If you are not working on the almanac there is always the rumor mill stuff.
>>36340637Last time I looked at the anthem pastebin it was just the titles.You want to add them all to the catalogue, or keep it as is in a separate pastebin?
>>36340700They've been complete and pastebinned for a while now. Your choice of what to do with 'em, we'll probably still keep the patebin if you put them in the song doc though.http://pastebin.com/Gd9rETxb
>>36332340He also has the rough riders
>>36340371And we're back after our regular food break!--Aside from the unforeseen demise of a bull moose, the rest of the day passed without incident. The sun was beginning its descent behind the snow-capped mountains as Thach and her company were seeking shelter.“Y’know,” the Anna statue said, walking beside the Atlantean emissary, “you guys came at a very lucky time. Usually the weather’s a lot worse around this time of year—lots more blizzardy.”“Your sister wasn’t a fan of springtime, I take it?” Catherine said.“Well not really.” Anna shrugged. “To be truthful, I rarely saw her when we were growing up. Spent a lot of time waiting by her door, hoping she’d let me in.”“Did she?”“No—never did.” The statue paused, maintaining a wistful look. “Our head butler and maid—Kai and Gerda—saw to her needs personally. If anything, they were the ones that saw her the most besides our parents. They’d never talk about what they saw in her room, no matter how many times I poked and prodded about the issue.”
>>36341357“And I’m guessing everyone found out what Elsa was hiding at the coronation?” Bernadette sidled up alongside the trio.“Yeah.” Anna nodded. “At the ball afterward, I kiiiinda maybesetheroffbyaccident.”“Wait, what?” Kavita had fallen in step with the group. “How?”“Well, there was this guy.” Anna trailed off, biting her lip.“Here it comes,” Kavita muttered.“His name was Hans. Dashing, charismatic man, he was. We had met before the coronation and met again at the party. We spent the night walking around the castle grounds, chatting and dancing and singing. We had promised ourselves to each other that night on a full moon—”“Whoa, whoa, whoa.” Zoe had crept up behind the group and was craning her neck over Kavita’s shoulder. “You wanted to get married to a man you just met?”“In my defense, I was smitten.” Anna raised her hands. “He knew all the right words and all the right moves. If there were ever a man that could get to my heart, it was him.”“But only after a couple hours?” Bernadette asked.“I was smitten!” Anna threw her hands up in the air. “I was so sure that it was true love!”“With a guy you just met,” Zoe quipped.“And chatted with for a few hours, nonetheless,” Kavita added.
>>36341390They would probably know who Hans is, since he controls some land in France now, remember?
>>36341390I thought it was agreed that Ice Anna didnt know the full story of how she came to be?
>>36341390“Can I finish? Please?” The statue received no protests. “So—we decided to tell Elsa about our marriage plans. She said the same thing: ‘You can’t marry someone you just met!’ She tried to leave after that, and we argued for a bit, and then she just started shooting ice everywhere!” Anna turned her eyes downward. “She just...ran away after that. Long story short: I found her, she condemned me to a slow death when she froze my heart, and there was a big blank period between when I turned into a statue and when I woke up.”“Quite the tale, Anna.” Thach said, cupping her chin in her hand.“Cap?” Kavita cocked her eyebrow. “How much did you hear?”“Everything after Anna shouted she was smitten.” Thach shrugged.“When I set off to find her, I came across a small trading post in the middle of the woods—we shouldn’t be far from it right now, actually.” Anna turned to the Atlantean squadleader. “I think it’d be a sight more comfortable for you guys to make camp there than the middle of the woods.”“Lead the way, Princess.” Thach let the girl once again take the lead. The last rays of daylight were swallowed up by the mountains, and the waxing moon graced the night sky with its presence.–And there you have it. Second half was shorter than usual, if only because the first half was already so long. I'll have a pastebin link up soon as I can remember what my password was.
>>36337853Honestly, Chivalry seems to be Lawful Stupid: The Trait, which is fine, because Disney, but the fact that you are giving a bonus to Music by calling it a social trait seems overpowered. I understand bonuses to Intimidate and Persuade, but your chivalrous nature doesn't make you any better at singing. From a fluff standpoint, it seems odd, and from a crunch standpoint, Music and the social skills are very powerful (I think the most powerful skill was a tossup between Music, Persuasion, and Insight and you want bonuses to 2 of the 3) so even though you're basically swearing off Deceit by making yourself really bad at it, a lot of what you can do with deceit can be done via Persuasion. I thought you had it balanced without the Music buff though
>>36341520Perhaps he has chosen the rumor that Anna's true soul has been captured in Ice Anna.>>36341390>>36341357>>36339838>>36339705>>36339642It doesn't take a genius to figure out this 'Snow Queen' I keep seeing is some sort alternate Elsa that was cut out in an early revision of Frozen, but I'm really tired right now. Could someone explain all the details to me? Is she just straight up the Snow Queen from Hans Anderson's original tale, or did they have their own twists planned for her?
>>36341598Fluff-wise, it's Disney - being a chivalrous nigga most certainly does make you better at singing. Crunch-wise, If people think it's not balanced I can saw off intimidate from the skill as well, maybe even with a penalty. Also, Sverd's not lawful good, he thinks that too many laws or too restrictive codes prevent people from being as good as they can be. He's just stupid good, not lawful stupid.
>>36341629Basically, thats the original depiction of Elsa before hans was made a villain. Its from a earlier trailer
>>36341672What is an example of the chivalrous guy doing better at singing than the bad guy or the non-chivalrous guy?
>>36341672Saw off music. Its numerous uses are what imbalance it in Chivalry, not the +3 to Persuasion and Intimidate, which is incredibly strong on it's own but balanced by the -8 Deceit.
>>36341714Protagonists and heroes being main singers in Disney films. Being chivalrous sure as hell isn't a requirement, but it puts people in a more protagonist-esque role.>>36341716If, say, I instead gave a -4 to intimidate as well, would it be balanced? Keep in mind that that's a total of -12 for a +6 bonus that dissapears for the entire session if anything in a massively-contradicting code is violated.
>>36341629In the days of yon when Frozen was still known as "The Snow Queen", Elsa was conceived to be evil. Like, actually evil--not "misunderstood socially retarded spaghetti lord". She had a bit of a ruthless streak and an updo that reminded people of an onion bud, hence the fan term "Onion Elsa" . >>36341417Really now? I was still running under the assumption he was still part of the refugee population.>>36341520What >>36341629 basically said. I'm playing a bit loosely with things, and I have a few ideas of how to handle the entire "Is Anna really Anna" thing.
>>36341672That sounds contradictory
>>36341825Sverd's entire character is full of contradictions and general stupidity.His loyalty is split in four directions, he has an incredibly vague idea of good and evil and how people can be naturally good yet somehow corrupted by an external force, that everyone can be redeemed somehow but some people are just super duper corrupted and too far down to bring back, following an incredibly restrictive, archaic code while believing such codes aren't helpful to the general population, that fighting and testing strength is noble and honorable but actual killing is evil, not to mention the fact that he's acting like a knight when they haven't actually existed as a military unit in Arendelle for 250~ years, and so on. Almost everything he says or does contradicts something else.
>>36341802If it was -4 to Intimidate, -8 to Deceit, +3 to Persuade and Music I think that would be balanced.
>>36341716Also, Chivalry makes sense from a fluff standpoint as your powerful (if somewhat naive) conviction of the Way Things Ought To Be making people listen to you, which works for Intimidate (because they know you're serious) and Persuade (because your conviction is infectious), but this doesn't work for singing.>>36341802Actually, a couple of things. First, that's not a specific example. Secondly, the best singers in Disney movies, or at least the ones I've watched in the past 2 days because of this thread, weren't the chivalrous ones. Hunchback of Notre Dame: The most chivalrous fucker in the movie - Captain Phoebus - doesn't sing a note. Instead it's the free spirits of Esmeralda and Clopin who deliver "God Help the Outcasts" and "The Bells of Notre Dame"Princess and the Frog: Personally, I found "Friends On the Other Side" to be the best, and Facilier is hardly chivalrousAladdin: Great protagonist, great songs, zero chivalry there really
>>36341970I never said that protagonist HAD to be chivalrous, it just pushes them towards a more protagonist-esque role. See:The PrincePrince CharmingPrince PhillipPrince Eric(Arguably later in the movie) John Smith(Arguably later in the movie) NaveenDisney's moved away from this trope in later films, but it certainly does exist.>>36341967I'll change it around later.
>>36341814>>36341592And to top it all off, the Pastebin link for those interested.http://pastebin.com/sPFWUZb8
>>36341970Further examples of the great, memorable, not-at-all chivalrous singers of Disney: Frozen: The best songs are all by the princesses, who aren't particularly adhesive to any "warrior code"Lion King: Simba doesn't display any particularly chivalrous traits during his songs>>36342019Being a protagonist and singing well aren't necessarily the same. Do the Princes generally have the best songs? I may just be forgetting (I have to brush up on some of these), but I don't think so. I think that the best songs often were sung by the princesses and the people who were more free-spirited and unbound by such codes, or else straight-out villains like Frollo expressing powerful negative emotions. Do you have examples of people SINGING better due to chivalry in a quantity to match my list of people singing better with no warrior code of any kind?
>>36342098The example I'd use for chivalry would be Captain Phoebus from The Hunchback of Notre Dame. He uses his conviction due to his chivalry to lead the peasants to rise up against Frollo when he sieges Notre Dame, and I believe his conviction lets him intimidate a lesser guard earlier in the film, but he never sings better due to it.
>>36342098Oh, I left out Hercules and King Arthur who are pretty good examples of CHIVALRY as well.As for songs, you do have a pretty good point about them not being put in the most prominent roles for singing - but the fact that they are usually involved in the songs as a protagonist/deuteragonist gives justifiable cause for a music benefit. If it rustles your jimmies that much, I can change the rationale behind it to having been taught to sing as part of being raised as a minor noble, since that'd be more factually accurate.
>>36342240I'll be honest the jimmy-rustling is caused by the fact that this seems like it's become a trait that you want to construct just to support multiple aspects of your character at once that are not actually particularly linked. Chivalrous knight being able to convince others through his own conviction and commitment to his ideals works, but being able to sing well is just turning it into The Sverd Trait of Being Sverd. I feel like adding a Music buff to Chivalry is not actually done to fit the trait but is just done because Sverd is also good at singing and you don't have a trait slot to put that in. I'd try to put that into a different trait, because it honestly doesn't fit.Additionally, being a part of the aristocracy isn't linked to singing well in Disney. The single most memorable songs sung by princesses in Frozen - Let It Go and Do You Want To Build A Snowman? - were both about being not a part of that system anymore. Do You Want To Build A Snowman was all about getting out of the palace and being outdoors with the normal people for once, and Let It Go was all about being tired of having to hide who you are to be a part of the aristocracy. I Can Show You The World is all about escaping a palace, One Jump Ahead is all about being as far from a palace as you can be, I could go on.Also, the whole "Raised by nobles" thing doesn't fit with Chivalry as a trait, only Sverd as a character. The trait says "any warrior culture", but Tlacel, the warrior from El Dorado wasn't necessarily raised by nobility. Again, I feel like this is in danger of becoming a single trait trying to give you all the bonuses you want to shore up your image of your character.
>>36342453Well, actually, yeah. You know that we've specifically decided that people can create their own traits, so long as they are balanced, and add them in if the GM rules it fair, right? Traits aren't a 'pick from this list and only this list' sort of deal, you're encouraged to make your own that fit the character. I'm not going to drag through lists to find songs that support this other than "One song" which I know off the top of my head, but singing well is most certainly associated with aristocracy, and a singing benefit is therefore useful. I could change the 'warrior culture' bit to 'chivalry' in specific if that's what you have an issue with.
>>36342575The point is that you want to be a singing friendly knight who doesn't lie and is honorable all the time, and that is fine, but each trait is one thing about a character. You're trying to turn a single trait into being your character's personality. That just seems wrong to me. You have the ability to write your own traits, but having 2 different buffs which are balanced by two separate debuffs is two traits pretending to be one. For Sverd, I would suggest something like this:-Chivalry:+3 to Intimidate and Persuade, due to your conviction, so long as you have not broken the warrior's code of your own culture in the current session, and a permanent -8 to deceit- I'll Make A Man Out Of You: +3 to Music and you can sing to keep party members from becoming afraid, so long as you haven't run away yourself that session until everyone else in your party ran as well.
>>36342710So the issue is that you think I'm lapsing to much onto one trait? Alright, I think I see where you're coming from now. Yeah, I suppose I could replace the 'Can make speeches to render the party immune to fear' from But it is not this Day! with that trait to make everybody happy.Good talk.
>>36342710(Notice this was done in order to preserve all previous bonuses you wanted by modifying But It Is Not This Day's buff, which was admittedly a bit weak, and you got a bonus to Intimidate, but it fits a bit better, so long as Nob thinks it's okay and not too strong.) Chivalry is just such a common trait/abstract concept that I feel like you changing it just because you wanted it for a character first would hurt the game as a whole if it was at all inaccurate. So far I remember 3 people from as many playtests using Chivalry
>>36342765A namefag that isn't an argumentative asshole and accepts criticism? Am I in bizzarro world?
>>36342765Nice to see we just solved an issue that we had through constructive conversation with nobody getting mad. The system works!
>>36342787>3 people that used chivalryWhat? There was me, obviously, and Antoine from the fourth. Who was the third?
>>36342846Bruin the bear and the Polynesian Pirate Prince, I'm not sure if the last guy was used, but Bruin was in the second game
>>36342867Oh yeah, forgot about Bruin. The Polynesian prince had Chivalry?
>>36342884yep. https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/1357091/post-character-sheets-here-for-future-games#post-1361638Also, Tlacel Yolotli from the second playtesthttps://app.roll20.net/forum/post/1355846/post-your-character-sheets#post-1356206So the grand total is 5 chivalrous characters so far
>>36342917you made a popular trait there, Sverd
>>36342917Oh man, and looking at the character sheets Antoine didn't even have Chivalry. Today is not my day. Maybe it's because only one person requested a song.>>36342946Knightfag made the trait.
>>36329726http://pastebin.com/wA2m2LMiDid a little diddy about the life of a rough rider.
>>36343000Oh, then Knightfag made a a very popular trait.>>36343063Nice going
First time poster in the Disney Villains Victorious thread- just want to say, I love you all, and I'm prouder of /tg/ right now than I have been in years. I'll help out in future threads, but for now... for now, you done us all good, people.Walt Disney may spin in his grave, but it's just so he can clap his arms faster.
>>36343175Every time a new contributor comes into the thread my frozen heart warms a littlePlease ignore the 3 or so threads 5 threads back where we were invaded by /frz/ who detected an attractive PC and started shipping
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+VictoriousJust reminding people to vote for the threads (mainly because thread #2 becomes Epic if one more person votes for it, so someone vote for that) Also, many of the more recent threads are still white (-4 to +4). Just saiyan
>>36343226Sverd, we know that's just you taking off your name to call your own PC attractive.
>>36343226Eh, it's /tg/, we get those.
>>36340121VILLAIN HOT OUTTA THE OVENSORRY THIS TOOK SO LONG, HAD TO REWRITE THE POST AFTER I ACCIDENTALLY DELETED ITName: Arch Demi-Lich (Better name would be appreciated)Role: Villain/Strong GuyClass: Fuckhuge Skeleton WarriorSize: GiganticSpecies: Human (?) (Do you count Cauldron-Born as human?)---Attributes---Robustness: 25/16 (WALKING TANK)[Weak Point Robustness: 4/16] (WE SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS NOW)Agility: 8/14 Intelligence: 8/14Sensibility: 8/14Charm: 4/14Will: 3/3Strikes: 9+X2, where X is the number of party members.[Weak Point Strikes: 1+X, where X is the number of party members.]---Skills---Athletics: 3 + 1 counting role.Intimidate: 7Melee: 6 + 4 counting Weapons.Prevent Harm: 7 + 3 from Villain trait and role.Endure: 7 + 2 from Villain trait---Traits----Multiple ArmsUnit has multiple arms. In this unit's case it has four arms.-Weak Point/Achilles Heel (Self)Unit is granted massive power in exchange for a weak point. In this unit's case there is a small sigil located at the center of the forehead/"third eye" that is it's weakpoint.-UndeadUnit is not affected by poisons, music (Unless it's xylophone or really, really, good music.), semi-intense climate change, and medical sciences.-VillainThis unit is a Villain. It gets +2 to Prevent Harm and Endurance. ---Powers----Klaatu Barada Nikto (Unique!)Every 3 strikes against this unit summons 5 Cauldron-Born mooks. If attacking the weak spot this power does not come into affect.-Demonic StareIdentify one character/unit. +3 intimidation against them.---Equipment---Twin Colossal Stone Greatswords: Four-handed, grants +4 to melee.Horned Tin Cap: Horned helmet made out of soft tin. Does nothing except guard one attack to the head.Description in a bit, since it ties it all together and I've hit character limit.
>>36343333>Prevent Harm: +35
>>36343333Could the greatswords each be two-handed, and he dual-wields them? They'd still have +4 because of their size
>>36343389>dual wielding greatswords>>36343333Quads confirms insanity here>Prevent Harm +35oh jesus, everyone cover your buttholesAttack rolls are at +35, and it gets 4 actions>average of 13 strikes>mfwThank god it's Villain tier, because otherwise there might be more than one of these.There's only one of these, right?right?
>>36343333Cauldron Giant Collosoor if the horned king has a sense of humour>Mr Bones
>>36343466Yes, dual wielding greatswords. Four arms, two swords. 4 arms/ 2 arms per sword = 2 swords.
>>36343333Physical Description/Background:"Oh woe is me, for I have looked death in the face, and know it comes. A lumbering colossus, larger than anything I have seen. (It's 40ft tall) It was human in shape, but not in nature or structure. Made out of the bones of giants and men, it has four arms, to wield it's bringers of death, twin greatswords of colossal size, (35ft.) almost as long as it was. But the worst thing was it's stare. It had no eyes, but it's sockets seemed to stare at my very soul. Znd it wanted it. I couldn't take it anymore, I ran. I ran, but I know it hunts for me,and it won't stop until the deed is done. If only it had a weak point.." - Peasant of The Land of the Black Cauldron.>>36343350>>36343466WEAK POINT>>36343389That's what I meant
>>36343568No, I mean it deals an average of 13 strikes a turn.
>>36343590Yep, it's a fucking tank. That's why there's a weak point. On it's forehead. Which the SOFT tin cap unfortunately covers.
>>36343466Something to add:YOU WANTED CHALLENGING VILLAINSWERE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Hey guys what's going on in this thre-->+35 PH villain>Dual Wielding greatswords>mfwnope.jpg.jpeg.png.gif.webmNo weak points can alleviate the buttfuckery that will ensueWe could have prevented it, it is already overAnd I thought the 26~29/30 stat guy was bad. I'mma stat him for funzies tomorrow and see if I can make anybody shit their pants
>>36343063What do you guys think?
I'd call him Lichborne, it sounds cooler than demi-lich, and besides, a lich is an undead necromancer, generally, and this guy isn't so much a wizard of any kind.I'm thinking of trying to stat out a King. I think I may give Dr. Facilier a shot. Any advice? I know he should have MASSIVE levels of Charm. He'll also get high Occult, Persuade, Deceive, and Music. He'll probably end up with everything broken about social characters, plus he'll be a wizard
>>36343880>Facilier>A wizardYou're a funny guy, AnonFunny thing about those voodoo pacts....He can't conjure a thing for himself
>>36343880Facilier should be ridiculously slick and have a high agility as well. Like, inhumanly slick. He should be a bad fighter, though, relying on his magical stuff instead of punching or shooting.
>>36343919Don't forget his shadowYou can't exactly punch it out or even touch it but it can certainly touch you
>>36343333ALRIGHT GUYS BETTER NAMEI LIKED THIS ONE >>36343478IT SOUNDS LIKE A VIDEO GAME INTRODUCTION, LIKE"Cauldron Giant: COLLOSO""HE'S GONNA TAKE YOU FOR A WILD RIDE""YOU HAVE STARED AT DEATH ITSELF, AND IT COMES FOR YOU"introductions are funAlso this is definitely going into the game
>>36343915Don't worry, I'm reflecting that in his sheet. His physical stats are decent, 10s or so, but he can't improve his own body. I'm giving him reasonable stats and then a 42 for charm, which could be the highest in the game (and possibly should be). I'm thinking that PCs will have to do something to resist his powers of persuasion, a ritual of something similar, to be able to even think of coming near him.Just to be clear, I envision rituals as a sort of plot-based magic. They won't be anything that PCs can use repeatedly, more like a preparation for the BBEG so he can't wreck your shit. This one would just strengthen the PC's will to give them a boost against his tricks.
>>36344025>42 for charmGoddamn, even my Mr. Skellybones would be charmed.
>>36344025>I'm giving him a 42 for charmWhen I said 'high' I didn't mean 'so high there's no way anyone ever could possibly resist him',
>>36343333You know, everybody's forgetting the fact that if you do enough damagd to it, Cauldron-Born mooks show up.
>>36343965Also, I'm going to have his shadow as a separate entity, that takes its own turns and everything. Anything else?
Will there be a King trait like there is a Villain trait?
>>36343333Alright so this is going in the wikiName: Cauldron Giant, CollosoRole: Villain/Strong GuyClass: Fuckhuge Skeleton WarriorSize: GiganticSpecies: Human (?) (Do you count Cauldron-Born as human?)---Attributes---Robustness: 25/16 (WALKING TANK)[Weak Point Robustness: 4/16] (WE SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS NOW)Agility: 8/14 Intelligence: 8/14Sensibility: 8/14Charm: 4/14Will: 3/3Strikes: 9+X2, where X is the number of party members.[Weak Point Strikes: 1+X, where X is the number of party members.]---Skills---Athletics: 3 + 1 counting role.Intimidate: 7Melee: 6 + 4 counting Weapons.Prevent Harm: 7 + 3 from Villain trait and role.Endure: 7 + 2 from Villain trait---Traits----Multiple ArmsUnit has multiple arms. In this unit's case it has four arms.-Weak Point/Achilles Heel (Self)Unit is granted massive power in exchange for a weak point. In this unit's case there is a small sigil located at the center of the forehead/"third eye" that is it's weakpoint.-UndeadUnit is not affected by poisons, music (Unless it's xylophone or really, really, good music.), semi-intense climate change, and medical sciences.-VillainThis unit is a Villain. It gets +2 to Prevent Harm and Endurance. ---Powers----Klaatu Barada Nikto (Unique!)Every 3 strikes against this unit summons 5 Cauldron-Born mooks. If attacking the weak spot this power does not come into affect.-Demonic StareIdentify one character/unit. +3 intimidation against them.---Equipment---Colossal Stone Greatsword x 2: Two-handed, grants +2 to melee for each swordHorned Tin Cap: Horned helmet made out of soft tin. Does nothing except guard one attack to the head.Sound good?
>>36344115Make the giant swords to +4, he just doesn't use them simultaneously
>>36344135What's the difference?
>>36344158to make greatswords the size of trees better than normal ones
>>36344172Eh, I say just keep em' like that. They are just stone, and adds to the image of a giant, four-armed bringer of death. I'll just say they're shitty from years of use.
>>36344227okay.How many strikes should it take to kill a King?
>>36344255Too many to be reasonable. They have puzzle solutions.
>>36344255I say it should beKing # of Strikes= 12 + X3, where X is the number of party members
>>36344269Oh that's a good idea too.Better than mine here >>36344283
>>36344318The way I'm planning on doing Facilier, he has his Friends providing him with a shadow that blocks all physical attacks, and his stats are a brick wall to social attacks, so you have to somehow break his connection to the Friends through a campaign, then he's just a man, and squishy as fuck
>>36344352Got some some sick parlour tricks tho
Name: Dr. FacilierRole: King/Charming GuyClass: Shadow ManSize: MediumSpecies: Human---Attributes---Robustness: 10/16Agility: 10/16 Intelligence: 16/24Sensibility: 18/24Charm: 20/24Will: 3/3Strikes: 3, but Shadow Shield---Skills---Acrobatics: 10Athletics: 7Persuade: 14Deceive: 14Occult: 14Melee: 8(9)Prevent Harm: 4 + 2 from Villain trait.Endure: 8 + 2 from Villain trait.Music:12---Traits----Shadow Shield: Since taking New Orleans, Facilier has done quite well for his Friends on the Other Side. So well, in fact, that one shadow being is his personal guard. This being has 24 ROBUSTNESS, 20 Agility and +14 Prevent Harm. It will block any strike on Facilier made with a physical attack and can take ___[an assload of]____ Strikes before dissipating, although it takes double strikes from light- or fire-based weapons.-Don’t Play A Player: +20 against social attacks -Sentient Shadow: Facilier is never without his shadow, which has a life of its own and can attack for him. This being has 20 Agility, +15 Prevent Harm and +14 Brawl (+16 with its shadow claws), always striking with Agile Natural Attacks. It can be stunned for a round by attacking it with a light or fire weapon.-Master of an Army - He can call in his Villains (shadow beings) to aid him in a fight-KING: This unit is A MOTHERFUCKING KING. It gets +10 to Persuade its servants to do anything if opposed in some way, and can automatically make them obey if nobody is telling them not to. Still need to do Powers, but tell me what you think
<iframe width="854" height="510" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/sy62mqmqwCQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>how and where would these guys fit into the setting?
>>36344506Quite good, but that king trait is weird.
>>36344520I meant to put the urlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy62mqmqwCQ <iframe width="854" height="510" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/sy62mqmqwCQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
>>36344506Seems good.Anyways /tg/, I'll stat more Villains later. Goodnight.
>>36344565Seeing as Britain/Prydain's gone to pot, I'd guess that Mr. Winky and the weasels took off for Pleasure Island, best spot for a bunch of lazy thieves.
>>36344506One power will be the bag of powder that he used to show Tiana her dream, I need more powers for Dr. Facilier. Any ideas?
>>36344634so are they now henchmen of the coachman?
>>36344672I'd vote for it, they didn't have much of a plot beyond housewrecking in the Disney version.
>>36344506Will need adjustment later, but it's a good start. Throw them in a pastebin and link them to the 1d4chan page instead of just straight putting them on there, it'll make the page take less time to load.
>>36344664Here's a few ideas:Facilier and his shadows can ignore some defense by attacking the player's shadowsThe masks scattered around his lair spit out voodoo spells/shadows at players that go near them.Facilier can create duplicate fighters of the players, all he needs is some blood and a debtor willing to take the risk.
>>36344725I still need power ideas. Got any?
>>36344759Friendly Assistance: Spend a Will Point. Gain +4 to all attributes.Master of Shadows: Spend a Will point to summon 5 Lackeys from the shadows.Also, give him a means to regenerate Will points. Probably should edit King to;Regenerates one Strike a round on his person, regenerates one Will Point a round.
>>36344784>Friendly AssistanceCheck that, he can't summon anything for himself. Change it to be a bonus to his shadow instead.
>>36344784I'm not doing Friendly Assistance because funny thing about those voodoo pacts....He can't conjure a thing for himselfAnd he already has 12 Will, so I'm not making will regen a thing for all kings.
>>36344866He's... got 3 will, mate. Moreover, he's a king, and kings should be tough as fuck. I just copied Friendly Assistance off of No One's sheet.I'd recommend giving him some sort of forced shapechange thing, like turning people into harmless small animals unless they succeed on Endure+Robustness or Endure+sensibility or whatever.you realize anything you make is going to have to be heavily, heavily revised, right? We can't afford to fuck around with Kings
http://pastebin.com/cuD9g7nGDone!He has no description because that's already heavily covered.>>36344906I made that change after posting it
Oh, I forgot to remove the placeholder amount of strikes for his shadow shieldhttp://pastebin.com/1eWM9Xgh
Fuck, forgot to take out one last bit of remaining stats from the thing I used as a template, (because I'm too lazy to find the real one)http://pastebin.com/x07Fx7NM
And Facilier's on the wiki, ready for nobody to kill him for a while
Statted up Elsa.Queen Elsa the FrozenCountry of Origin: ArrendelleMedium-Size HumanStrikes - 30 (?)Robustness: 10Agility: 14Intelligence: 16Sensibility: 14Charm: 12Skills:Acrobatics 5Athletic 4Ranged 18Prevent Harm 16Endure 8Academics 8Music 14Traits:Ice Queen's Madness - Elsa is quick to lash out, and rolls to calm her down suffer a +5 to difficulty.Frozen Heart - Social strikes against Elsa have a +3 to difficulty, but deal three times as much damage.Following - This unit is followed by a massive Ice Golem with 18 Robustness, 10 prevent harm and 12 Brawl.King - This unit is a King, and receives appropriate bonuses.Powers:Freeze - Renders one specific unit unable to act for five turns, or until a different unit spends three turns helping them up.Ice Shards - Spends a will point to make a ranged attack against every member of the party with no penalties.Ice Shield - Adds a +10 to prevent harm for two rounds at the cost of not being able to make physical attacks during this time.Equipment: None.An out-of-combat persuasion roll to be like 'we're not enemies' or something would have a base TN30 against her, but if the PCs fuck something up it jumps to 35 from her traits. supposed to be that most people are gonna get fucked up if they try direct combat but even an on-a-roll who chooses words carefully could succed.
>>36345131Needs to be higher TN for convincing her to not be enemies; TN30 is easily attainable for a Zero-tier Charming guy on a roll of 8. honestly, start at TN35 and work up from there.
>>36345166So change it to TN35 and TN40.
>>36345309Guess I'll write another KLR, who's left?
>>36345433there should be a pastebin link somewhere to all of the KLR;s
>>36345433King/Land/Rule: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_K/L/Rshttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_VictoriousThe undone ones are listed on the main page
hey Nob which area was No One statted for?
>>36345725Shadowlands Inner Circle, northern Iowa.
THE CURRENT THREAD HAS BEEN ARCHIVED IN THE USUAL PLACE:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+VictoriousPlease remember to vote it and the others up, as it seems that we have attracted the attention of a cadre of dedicated downvoters in the past four threads or so.
Is our Fluff Catalogue up to date?
>>36346014I believe so, but it's possible I've missed a couple stories.
King - Caliph JafarJafar, the Sultan of Agrabah and all its domains, is undoubtedly the most powerful human sorcerer in the world. His knowledge of magic is absolute, and despite his fantastic strength, Jafar is a shrewd man who never underestimates his opponents, and prepares for any contingency. Jafar's magic has secured his position as Sultan, swayed the loyalty of the people, augmented his guards and, perhaps his crowning achievement, enslaved the Genie of the lamp. Though his first wish is spent, Jafar keeps the other two in reserve until he can discover a way to rewrite the Genie's rules to allow him unlimited wishes of any kind. For now, he is content to bolster his own magical power with ancient tomes and etchings from the far corners of his empire. The sorcerer-king keeps the princess Jasmine as his consort, both for his own pleasure and for legal dominion over the Caliphate (the previous sultan mysteriously vanished shortly after the wedding). Jafar is arrogant of his abilities, though still shrewd enough not to underestimate his opponents, a lesson well-learnt from dealing with the street rat. He is quick to anger, and will overwhelm any opponents who directly challenge him via his hypnotic staff or any number of magical spells (he tries not to use the same spell twice in the same combat to prove his wide mastery of magic).
>>36346189Land - The Caliphate of AgrabahThe domain of Agrabah nearly encircles the Mediterranean Sea and lays claim to the deserts of northern Africa and western Asia. Despite its wide range, the roads filling the space between cities are well-maintained. For allies or servants of Jafar, travelling his roads is perhaps the safest method of travel, albeit long and usually hot. The Caliphate deals in more goods than any other Kingdom except the widespread East India Trading Company, products ranging from gold to silk to spices. The expansive territory allows for more cultural blending than most other places in the world, and it is common to see travelers from any kingdom Jafar is currently not warring with. Despite the wealth and commerce, Agrabah is a hotbed of sins, hosting everything from dens of debauchery to the largest slave market in the world. Bandits roam the deserts, eager to prey upon less-guarded caravans for loot and slaves. The people will gladly side with Jafar if asked, though a great many miss the more benevolent Sultans of ages past, for Jafar is an aloof and occasionally cruel monarch.
>>36346200Rule - Ancient CuriosIn Jafar's quest to utterly command the Genie's powers, he has set up magical detectors in each major city to seek out any new sources. As far as he is concerned, all magic belongs to him, and any magical items must be appropriated on the chance that they could further his goal. If the players carry any magical items with them, Jafar's guards will be quick to seek them out and take the items as a travelers' tax. Additionally, Jafar allows higher-ranking guards to make use of magical trinkets that have no use to him, such as an amulet that toughens the skin or a bracelet that gives the user the strength of ten men (such trinkets are often misused and neglected, making them risky for both the guards and players to use). Should the PCs possess no magic, however, he will likely pay no attention, unless they begin making widespread trouble inside the city of Agrabah itself. If the players have defeated several kings, Jafar will take observe them closely, but is unlikely to act unless magic is involved. Should the PCs defeat any magic-infused guards or openly discuss magical matters, Jafar will order their arrest to glean any new details he can.
>>36346087I know there was the "Beyond the Horizon" Atlantean prologue story from a couple threads ago:http://pastebin.com/pSt8fuEwAnd I think there might have been a few others but maybe my mind is playing tricks on me. Thank you for taking the time to archive everything, Plane. It's been great being able to browse and read all the stories I'd missed in one spot. You really are a credit to the entire project.And since I'm up this early I might as well start on the "new recruit gets a talking to from Mulan the Undying" story I'd mentioned earlier.
>>36346189Any particular reason for why Jafar's saved two wishes? In canon, he seems to have been saving one at most.
>>36346213Thanks man, least I can do. Looking forward to your story.>>36346223Jafar only used his wish to become Sultan, really. Since Aladdin would either be dead in the Cave of Wonders or frozen somewhere way up north, Jafar wouldn't have had to use his other two wishes during the fight with him.I figured a good goal for Jafar would be to search for some magical means of changing the Genie's rules, so he can have as many wishes as he wants, plus wishing for death, love and all the other taboo stuff.
>>36346248Probably doubled as a good reason for him to not be Super God Jafar (since "the most powerful sorcerer in the world" means a lot more in a setting where Elsa or Ursula exists).
>>36346223>>36346248I was surprised at the two wishes in reserve too, but seeing as how he was already a capable sorcerer and took over the sultanate with little muss or fuss in this world, it makes sense to me that he would try and reserve as many wishes as he could. He could have wished himself into more power, but he doesn't strike me as a Villain averse to a little hard work when it would mean keeping two aces hidden up his puffy sleeves rather than just one.
>>36346351Are there any updates that need to be made to the opening post before a new thread is started?
>>36346366Generic traits pastebin has been updated: http://pastebin.com/TJXncd7A
NEW THREAD HERE:>>36346718