Welcome to the XXXVII installment of "Disney Villains Victorious."Disney Villains Victorious is a new /tg/ homebrew project based on the idea of a world, not entirely unlike our own, in which all the villains from all the Disney animated feature films were not defeated at the ends of their movies but were instead victorious, completing their goals in part or in whole.It is a world in which Ursula rules the seas, defied only by the uncatchable Pirate Lords, the cutthroat merchants of the East India Trading Company and the might of Atlantis and its magitech-toting mercenaries. It is a world where the grasslands and jungles and forests are prowled not only by fearsome primal beasts like Shere Kahn and Scar but also by the ruthless, tireless hunters that stalk them. It is a world where Europe has been divvied up between evil sorcerous monarchs like Maleficent, the Horned King, Grimhilde and Jafar, mad, inquisitorial clergymen like Frollo, and Dark Gods like Hades and Chernobog.It is not, however, a world completely devoid of courage, heroism or hope. Around the world, the PCs' characters and their allies plot and plan, fight and strive and win their own victories against the villains that would rule them. The time to fight and to be free is now.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorioushttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious
>>36309144The pastebins. Post them.
Assembled Pastebins:King/Land/Rule: http://pastebin.com/Z8wFJrhhSetting Traits: http://pastebin.com/8RRbwMQTBeast Species: http://pastebin.com/PwVr9VeTTRAITS: http://pastebin.com/uHCXg4EVPOWERS:http://pastebin.com/pQDDqisUFluff Catalogue: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qj_IIuF_rqh_F2L-SeYn-dBiwDTtwWFpnbcXyfcgeE8/editSong Catalogue: (google doc) 1oQniqbLaTCF7V19fnXP0_zUW7GFr3ESziGM6U5mEcC0/editRumour Mill: (google doc) 17CzFrAblibwD__7sEYorqXSz4ILYVp1O4tcQ-mGyYiI/edit?usp=sharingVillain Immortality: http://pastebin.com/kA1wsUzVFirst Playtest: http://pastebin.com/Vy1E0sHBSecond playtest:http://pastebin.com/qE1kW0YYGoogle doc for character creation:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m8XSm73Ea4ECdDdP9V4IVJCEBji6HPw43LRPyUCDmx4/edit?usp=sharingPlaytests are hosted here; https://app.roll20.net/join/585117/yX0x1w
>>36309144>>36309246You had one job, man. One job.
>>36309274Missing third playtest.
>>36309280The pastebins don't fit in the sodding OP any more.
Reposting Cauldronborn stats because I need opinions on them:>Cauldronborn>Standard mook stats, but an 8 in Robustness, a 6 in Charm and a 3 in Intelligence.>+3 to Brawl, Intimidate and Avoid Harm.>Undead: The Cauldronborn will never obey commands contrary to those of the Horned King or a Wight. Though they can attempt to determine if somebody is lying, they cannot perform any other intellectual or social actions. They are also immune to any social rolls, and if killed, they come back to life within 6 days. (Roll 1d6.) Equipment is light armour and either a shield, which gives +1 to Prevent Harm, and a 1 handed weapon, a 2 handed melee weapon or a bow. They can use ranged or melee.
Reporting from Not-Wizards-But-Still-Want-Magic Land: they are reasonable and sensible over there, and I see no reason we can't get along.
>>36309315>all this shitIt's rules light. Mooks are not the d&d shit you think they are.
>>36309246>>36309280Holy shit, here they are, calm down a moment!
>>36309354That's plenty rules light. GTFO, wizard.
>>36309354Cauldronborn are more than just mooks, friend. Not every enemy needs to be designed for Zeros. I'd say the Cauldronborn are On-A-Roll mooks at least.
>>36309397>on-a-roll mooks>this should be seperated by region and not tierYou are fucking retarded and pissing all over our system.
>>36309354What I said: we make a rules light system and then everyone wants to make it more stupidly complex.>>36309397That's not a thing, they should be Lackeys. It would make the place super dangerous, but that fits with the movie.
>>36309393Did you turn stupid, Knight? That's not rules light at all, it's too complex and difficult to remember.
Alright, faggot at the end of the last thread here, I'll stop, but serious question.What would you even do if somebody tried to bring Kingdom Hearts shit into a game?Because if this project actually gets finished, chances are somebody playing will bring Kingdom Hearts shit into a game.Also what is a wizard and why is it a derogatory term
>>36309393>>36309475>f-f-f-f-false flag!>>36309485Go away wizards, we know it's still you
>>36309397There's no such thing as 'on-a-roll' mooks. Things don't get magically tougher as you tier up.Stat the cauldronborn as lackeys, make them immune to Social, maybe up robustness by 1.We never decided if Lackeys get one action or two... I leave the thread for one day and it all goes to shitposting.
>>36309485I'd do the same thing if somebody tried to bring Kingdom Hearts into any other game: Be passive aggressive and then bitch about them in a That Guy thread.Also, there's a troll whose schtick is suggesting we put in wizaeds. Literal 3.5 wizards. Everyone hates him because he causes faggots like >>36309495 to have an excuse for existing, and he's kind of a faggot himself.
>>36309485You tell them to take their weeb shit and leave.The fact you thought ONE OUT OF TEN players would play a generic anime character out of all of Disney and talking animals and so much shit shocks and infuriates me.
>>36309485We would just tell them to pack their shit and go home: we don't want weeaboo bullshit here
>>36309485Up to the GM, really.We had some blokes wanting to play wizards, based off of precedent from disney films. For a variety of reasons - notably the potential unbalancing of the game and making it necessary to put in a lot more rules - PC magic was deemed out. Some people stirred shit up, and now there's an irritating joke about how everything we don't like is wizards.
>>36309485Kingdom hearts doesn't fit our current design scheme. If someone brought it in, I'd ignore them or tell them to reroll.Wizard is a derogatory term due to a: a joke made back in thread ~5 "can't sleep, wizards will get me" and b: a number of shitposters complaining about not being allowed to play a magician.
>>36309499I suppose you're right. I kind of just thought it'd be easier if we had different classifications of mook for each level, so we still had a general idea of what we're meant to do with them, we just have different levels of them now.
>>36309499One action is fine, they are already though enough. And you should never leave ever again Nob, we are lost without you.
>>36309475>It has different numbers in it! You can't expect me to do MATHS in a ROLEPLAYING GAME! Nobody did maths in Disney!
>>36309551Of course he's right. Now stop complaining: lackeys are fine.
>>36309551No worries. The design currently specifies players rolling through mooks on On-a-roll and nearly ignoring them in Hero tier. If you want cauldronborn tough, make them lackeys so they survive a hit.
>>36309578>herp derp, where are all the broken builds?>everyone is useful in combats? what is this shit?>why can't I play a super complex wizard against super comp'lex enemies while the fighter crys in a corner?Nice arguments there, faggotron.
>>36309619>All of these are equal to what I said
>>36309613Lackeys they are, then.
>>36309578Are you sure you weren't looking for the Pathfinder General? You seem lost, my friend.>>36309630A bit exagerated, I agree, but it kinda sounds like what you were saying, yes.
What does everything think of the proposed Magic Sword enhancements?
>>36309670>archmage>mageWho are you and what did you with the real Knightfag?
>>36309707Would a false Knightfag run this by everyone and let them know what those spell-slingers are up to?
Did we ever get that piece of write fagging about Elsa and based Sved?
>>36309788No, but I think I'm going to draw a pic of Naacha eating nachos at some point.
>>36309788Please don't start shipping Sverd again. Especially while he's not here to stop you.
Another question, have you guys decided to do anything with Pixar?Because they were kind of important to Disney, but I could see them not fitting in. Although if changed slightly, some of their things could probably be usable.>>36309670Seems fine to me. I mean what kind of Hero doesn't have an enchanted weapon?Of course I'm really new to this, so take my words with a grain of salt.
>>36309707That would be me. Guy making all the magic, so guy in charge of the mages, therefore archmage.
>>36309833Meridia of Brave and her villain Mor'du are confirmed in this setting. All other Pixar stuff is too modern and is being saved for a splatbook.
>>36309828A PC who based his character off Disney Princes and implied a disneyesque romance hook with Elsa, which anons instantly used for magical realm purposes because the PC was chivalrous. He's also our local song-writer.
>>36309833Charles Muntz is with the Hunters.
>>36309886His player's said multiple times that he probably isn't interested in her in THAT sense. Thought that should be mentioned.
>>36309886So you are pretending to make a game when instead you're basically just circle jerking around and talking about your waifus?
>>36309871Alright, also sorry for all the questions, but looking at wiki page and pastebins, there really isn't a comprehensive list of all the lands and Kings/Queens, so it's a bit hard to find out who's in or not, what their land is like, and shit like that.
>>36309917Sverd's just said that Sverd the character isn't sexual at all. He wrote a Saigon-esque song about being unworthy of loving Elsa and eventually comig to terms with his repressed emotions, it's pretty good. He just dislikes the smut and shipping.
>>36309924Will you fuck off, wizard? Romance subplots are a Disney fucking staple, someone making one, especially with a damsel in distress that eventually helps out the man more is DISNEY AS FUCK. It's just the shippers who are circle jerking over waifus and ignoring personality.
>>36310024I don't even ship them, I just want more Elsa smut.
>>36309945They're all there, though admittedly it would be easy to miss some if you skimmed. And there is a fair deal that isn't mentioned on 1d4chan: the Elite Hunters Club includes McLeach, Gaston, Clayton, Muntz, Amos Slade (of Fox and the Hound) and Buldeo (a character from the book version of the Jungle Book that was planned to be put in the film but got cut). Also Cruella hangs out with them for furs.
>>36310054I hate you.
>>36310075Love you too.
>>36309499Two. Just make it two
>>36310054Come to think of it, we've never actually produced any smut. And at least for me, the whole icy BDSM thing was a thing to chuckle immaturely at as opposed to fap material.
>>36310120It stopped being a funny and immature joke about a PC being a pussy when people started whipping out their dicks.
>>36310120We talked about reindeer rape, though.
>>36310156It's more him being subservant and her being dominant, plus she's his queen, than him being a pussy. Still, it is a great tragedy to have lost that funny, immature joke to faplust.
>>36309972>>36310024>>36310054>>36310120>>36310156>>36310187Ahahah, holy shit you guys are amazing. Have fun talking about your waifu in your new frozen general: I'll tell /co/ this is where you went after they throw you out.
I decided this morning that I would write an origin story for Mahrikatohka "Mary" Smith, one of our first test characters and a feature in several bits of writing so far. I hoped to show a little bit of what life may be like in the Imperial Atlantean Republic, and how a hero in the DVV setting might get their start. I hope you enjoy it:>http://pastebin.com/pSt8fuEw
>>36309274Third playtest: http://pastebin.com/sWj8Y87vSession highlights:>Street rat turning a pistol in a hand grenade, disarming bombs like a pro and making a perfect roll to drive the train>Talking Guinea Pig doing most of the occult legwork, disarming bombs, picking locks and taking out a grown armed man with the old "Squirrel in My Pants">Cowboy shooting bad guys, talking down bad guys, kicking off bombs and fighting on top of a running train like a real cowboy>Polynesian pirate captain taking down a man with a strongbox, bagging himself a waifu and pumping the BBEG full of holes>Forever drunk first mate throwing people around like ragdolls, tanking like a boss and going WWE SMACKDOWN on the baddies
>>36310227Fuck off wizards! For the last time, we don't want you here!
>>36310227Salty steampunk goblin retard looking for a way to break up thread detectedDO NOT REPLY
>>36310227Goodbye, we won't miss you.Anyhow, the rusted sword that helps you punch people.
>>36310268Don't feed the troll.>>36310271Don't feed the troll.
>>36310187We did? I (thankfully) don't remember that.
>>36310187I legitimately thought that simultaneously horrifying and hilarious smut was going to come from that. Still disappointed that reindeer rape man never delivered.
>>36310242Good times.That reminds me: next playtest is tomorrow at 11:00am EST, which I have been assured should let some britbongs join us. It'll probably be a bit more intrigue-y, and set in either Paris or Baghdad.
>>36310346Please, please stop with the OC shipping. It's a bit weird and kind of creepy, and it's scaring off new people.
>>36310363We're on /tg/, bro. They've seen worse or they're REALLY new.
>>36310375Be that as it may, and as innocently as it may have begun, it may be becoming something of a distraction now.
>>36310375But it's Disney, man. If it's not PG, and if it wouldn't go right over kid's heads, it just doesn't belong. Ice bondage could've passed for Elsa just being really clingy and/or possessive."NO! Don't leave me! You can't leave me! I can't stand to be alone again!"
There is no valid reason that this shipshit should have ever continued past Knightfag making that one bondage joke like five threads ago.I'm just gonna not reply to it from now on,I suggest everyone else does to. I'm working on the national anthems and the pastebin should be up when it's done.
>>36310438No. Bad. We're getting into magical realm here.Please, let's talk about new traits, chimeras, lesson advancement rates, and Powers.
>>36310530Alright, alright, Elsa freezes Sven to the wall because she wants Sven's company in a totally nonsexual way.So what new traits and powers have popped up recently? I'm not in a state to brainstorm many myself.
>>36310558There was one about being too pretty to hurt, using items to block Strikes for you. We need to revise the Trait list and rebalance things.
>>36310558That actually sounds like something our Elsa would do. She's so desperate for people to like her, she'll imprison them and force them to have a conversation so they can tell her that really, she's nice, isn't she? Right? She isn't really responsible for murdering her sister and ruining everything and OH GOD IT'S ALL MY FAULT
>>36310597Right, I think the pastebin still lists an overpowered Chivalry, an undefined Sea Legs...oh, and speaking of Chivalry, can anyone here think of a warrior culture that would be cool with you lying?
>>36310627Probably the Huns
>>36310627Spartans were ok with anything if you weren't caught, last I checked.
>>36309485Wizard is a deogatory term because some people took a strawman too seriously and now believe that anyone who wants magic in automatically wants starting characters to be direct ports of level 20 D&D 3.5 wizards.
>>36310612I can see why that would make throw herself in the arms of the first newcomer than wants to confort her, but the idea of one of the few openly gay Disney character suddenly going straight for the big chivalrous man is clearly problematic. Please, let's stop talking about it.
>>36310612And though we will never speak of it, we will all know that after Elsa and Sven have their Disney wedding, they will engage in ice bondage from time to time for nostalgia's sake.Key words being "we will never speak of it".
>>36310678>openly gay>confusing fapfics with canon>having such severe shipping tunnel visionHow can you be serious?
>>36310678>Openly gay... That was sisterly love, not lesbian incest.
>>36310678>>36310702>problematicOh, wait, you're just a wizard/faggot. Nevermind.
>>36310678>openly gay>suddenly going for the big chivalrous man>problematicOH GOD. TUMBLR. IT'S WHY THE SHIPPERS ARE HERE. /frz/ GET THE FUCK OUT
>>36310702>>36310709>>36310724Was I the only one to listen to Let it Go? Or to, you know, actually watch the movie without coming from such a narrow and patriarchal point of view? You can keep telling yourself otherwise, but she's gay.
>>36310752Wizard go home.
>>36310752Wizard, go away.
>>36310678>>36310752One day, they'll run out of bait.About halfway down the Anthems, they need very little editing for the most part. Friend in Me, God Save Emperor Francis and God Save the Queen need a FUCKTON of editing, though.
>>36310752Don't feed the troll, everyone.
>>36310768Knightfag, fun is fun and jokes are jokes, but I don't like how you're using your boogeyman against a very simple concept. I don't care about magic in our game, but this is getting serious: portraying a gay character as straight is very offensive.
>>36310752... So, you're saying that in the climax, where Elsa's love for her sister thawed out her frozen heart, that was actually her turning gay after Elsa gay'ed her with her gay powers when she tried to visit her in her gay castle and then Elsa, a woman, hugging Anna, another woman, thus making her straight?>>36310831Elsa isn't gay.
>>36310831>thinking that you're fooling anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together>thinking that all responses serve any purpose than to warn those unfortunate enough to only possess a single brain cell2/10, you made me reply.
>>36310879There was also my post, which was just me laughing because of how ludicrous the concept was, even if it was a troll.Think about it: If Elsa's powers are a metaphor for homosexuality, then in Let It Go, she makes a gay bridge, and then constructs a gigantic castle out of gayness, and also makes herself new clothes out of gayness. However, she also accidentally covers everywhere with gay. Her sister comes to warn her about this, but she accidentally shoots gayness at her sister, thus Gaying her heart and causing her to slowly turn gay.
>>36310877>>36310879Why are so in denial? Why can't you let us have at least one openly gay Disney princess? Is your precious masculinity so threatened by the concept of a woman that wouldn't fall for you macho shit that you just have to portray her as straight, even if it's clear she's not?
>>36310927No, it's just that Elsa's powers are clearly not a metaphor for homosexuality, because otherwise that's also approving of incest.I should stop feeding the troll.
>>36310927This is a fucking game design thread, not Jezebel. Talk about the actual game, not some shitty shipping only 2-3 people out of 40 care about.
>>36310927>yfw elsa isn't even a disney princess and is actually a disney queen
>>36310946What's the problem with lesbian incest? It's not like they are gonna make deformed babies together.
>>36310926Eh, if we go by X-men, all that you need for something to be a metaphor for homosexuality is for it to appear around puberty and for it to be something you want to hide, even from your loved ones. Of course, Elsa's powers showed up way before puberty, so>>36310927can suck Churned Up Bog's cock.
>>36310752>>36310831I agree that portraying a gay character as straight is offensive. That being said, Elsa isn't gay. Frozen, by the way, does have an openly gay character. It's Oaken. When he shows Anna the sauna and says "Hi, family!" the sauna has a big man and some kids in it. I would actually be glad to see an openly gay Disney princess, and I think it would do wonders to open the minds of children and create a more accepting world, but that princess is not Elsa.
>>36310973Is there a joke to be made here about drag queens? Something like that? Because I'm trying but my inner Carlos isn't working.
>>36311005>my inner Carlos isn't working.Just like any other mexican.
>>36310974Incest in any form is bad, anon. If straight incest is bad, gay incest is bad. I thought you people wanted equality?
>>36310990When did these threads become so fucking gay? Oh no, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to use gay as an insult!>>36311039HEEEYOOOOOO!
>>36310990Oaken COULD be gay. It would've been common practice for the era for an unsuccessful bachelor to live with family members other than his parents if it was a better arrangement. There's nothing that says 'buttbuddy' or 'brother', so really it's a matter of interpretation. Still, it's good to see that Disney is leaving such room for interpretation, and you are by far the most reasonable person in this thread.
Let's move on from the discussion of being a fagfag by talking about how to stat the other various minions. What about Snowlems? Would an individual snowlem be a lackey or a villain?
In progress item list: http://pastebin.com/GANG90FEWill return in several hours.
Every time someone brings up this shit I can feel my enjoyment of romance subplots wilting away.I am gonna go take my Dog out for a walk and might eat dinner when I get back. The anthems will be up in no less than 45 minutes, they're almost done now.
>>36311053Straight incest can lead to biologically disadvantaged babies.>>36310990But she IS gay, that's clear. It's entire point of her character.>>36310946>>36310947>>36310979>>36311039>>36311069I honestly didn't imagine this community could be so insensitive and homophobic: I thought a game built around Disney movies would attract better pèeople than the common /tg/ crowd, but clearly I was wrong.
>>36311098We talked about 'flaming' weapons and other 'elemental damage' in>>36309670'Flaming' or otherwise heat-based weapons would provide a bonus against snowlems.Also, how big is the average snowlem? Are they all like Marshmellow?
>>36311039>Just like any other mexican.Pfffahahah!>>36311108It's kinda your fault for even bringing them up. What were you thinking?
>>36311159Please note: We're not actually adding elemental damage. We're just saying that if your sword's on fire, your GM should treat it as such.
>>36311139Don't like it? Leave like you should have 18 threads ago, wizard.
>>36311182I don't think Sverd has actually started any discussion on it.
>>36311108Thank you for working in the anthems. I appreciate all the work you've out into the songs for this setting. I've likewise found my enthusiasm ebbing lately when bickering begins taking the place of fluffing.
>>36311188I don't think this was wizards. Shit like this>pèeopleis not easy to fake. This one either believed it, or was a troll more specialized than wizards.
>>36311108All you had to say was "No. Though Sverd lets women walk all over him because CHIVALRY!, he is not a sub." But you didn't. Instead, you enabled us all.This is your fault, Sverd.YYYYYOOOOOUUUUURRRRR FFFFAAAAUUUULLLT!
>>36311215Shit, left my name on.
>>36311260Lying is not chivalrous
>>36311215>>36311256>pèeopleis that tumblr lingo?
>>36311284It is if you are a spartan. We just said so.>>36311285Every other word was Tumblr lingo, I think.
>>36311284There's lying, and then there's just not telling the whole truth. Besides, as a certain Captain Barbarossa once said.....well, you know what he said.
>>36311139You claim that she is openly gay, and she obviously is not, or you would have actual evidence besides the fact that "Let It Go" does fit the emotional context of coming out. Refusing to view a work through any lens other than your own, very specific one is an exercise in closed-mindedness. >>36311285no, that's not anything lingo as far as I know
>>36311315>Refusing to view a work through any lens other than your own, very specific one is an exercise in closed-mindedness.It sure is a very. . . straight view of the world.
>>36311348CARLOS, YOU WORTHLESS SPIC, GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!
>>36311348Yep. And he's not going to stop looking through it, and neither are the rest of us. You're better off bitching to your fat friends on tumblr. Unless you're a wizard, in which case,THROW THYSELF INTO THE BLACK CAULDRON!
By the way, I agree that Elsa as a lesbian could be an interesting lens to view Frozen through, it's just not the only one
>>36311376>Implying Carlos, Supreme God-King of the Realm of Puns, would spout such bile.
>>36311377Knight, are you fucking serious?
>>36311387We all know you're a samefag and that one really mad, pathetic troll from way back.
>>36311413Poe's Law applies twice as often in the written form where sarcasm is harder to distinguish.
>>36310347What do you mean by a bit more intrigue-y?
>>36311377>>36311406He was saying the tumblrwhale had a straight view of the world, you retard.>>36311438I think you may be just dumb. Like, shit son, so very dumb.
>>36311450Breaking and entering. Pick pocketing. Deceiving. Stealth.Totally-not-shadowrun, with talking Disney animals.
>>36311416Actually, I'm not. I just forgot to put my name back on. These were all me: >>36311387>>36311315>>36310990Anyways, back to namefagging. Sorry for any inconvenience
>>36311455>expecting people on 4chan, one of the autism capitals of the internet, to recognize sarcasm in the written formThen again, I have been drinking. Probably won't make any really good posts until I sober up in a few hours.
>>36311455Well, he has seemed fairly paranoid about Wizard so far. Ironic, since he was the first guy who wasn't interested in making magic spells and was open-minded enough to visit the IRC channel.
>>36311484So you're not only a namefag, you're also a very real fag? Good to know.
>>36311477I don't care, I'm bringing a knight because it's Disney and ridiculous.Besides, every group of Shadowrunners needs a Street Samurai.
>>36311499>Street SamuraiDid someone just say "Weeaboo"?
>>36311477I may bring a snake-man Chimera Sensible Guy. Used to be a pickpocket trying to save up enough to go human again, then realised being a pickpocket was all he was good at and being a snek made it easier, so just went off to become a professional thief.
>>36311498No, just a person with a person who holds the belief that homosexuals are people too who should be treated with all the respect deserving of a fellow human and not just hated for no reason.
>>36311527Nigga', Street Samurai is the name of a goddamn role in Shadowrun - its the big dude, the tank, the combat monster.Now, I may be an enormous fucking weeaboo, but that's beside the point.
>>36311102I feel dubious about the need to put the Persuasion penalty on the Totem Mask. On one hand, the fluff says you only put it on when you want to contact the spirits, so why put that crunch penalty in? On the other hand, maybe the crunch penalty enforces the fluff.Love the captain and admiral hats. I'd like to see a lot more double-edged swords like them. Perhaps a crown in Prydain, where there are tons of guys running around claiming to be the true king?
>>36311527No, but I sure heard someone say "Newfag."
>>36311575By the way, I think Facilier is a good example of a Charming Occultist
>>36311567Quit the tumblr crap and go back to work: we have shit to get done here.
>>36311631It's not "tumblr crap", they asked, I answered
>>36311616That's like saying Charlemagne's pals were good examples of paladins. He is one of, if not THE, definitive Charming Occultist(s).
>>36311477Finally an occasion for my talking bug!
>>36311649You forgot to point out that homosexuals shouldn't be shoved into everything for the sake of MUH DUHVURSITAY, as that just makes things worse for everyone.
>>36311678I want Ted to team up with Vergil so the entirety of our party has to rely on a tiny insect and a chinchilla to stealth and socialize for us.
>>36311666You're right. I was just referring to the fact that he is using his charisma to negotiate and make Friends with beings on the Other Side, rather than his intelligence.>>36311692That is true, but they are underrepresented in a lot of media, vidyagaems for example. Creating a lesbian Disney princess isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just wasn't Elsa.
>>36311756The true best strategy is to do stuff like Oaken, where you throw in homosexuality to throw everyone a curveball. Over time, people will become used to SUDDENLY GAY, to the point that they eventually are not surprised by gays at all, and might even expect them every now and then. And so long as they only expect them in an amount comparable to the general populace, everyone will have won.
>>36311698Having the two animal mascots as the party face would be hilarious. Or I could just bring back Bart
>>36311821Nah man, Ted the Bug.
>>36311818People are surprised by gays? Really?
>>36311821Might be good to see how the same player plays different roles, though. Having already played sensible and strong, I myself am toying around with ideas for nimble, smart and charming characters.
>>36311821I plan to bring a monkey gentleman Charming Guy
>>36311847Well, they do hide in closets all the time.
>>36311847In some settings and genres, sure.
>>36311865Carlos, I already told you to get the fuck out of here.
>>36311856THREE animal mascots. Please let this happen.
>>36311868You mean real life settings? Like, if you live in Russia seeing a homo in a movie would be surprising?
>>36311901I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a wizard trying to start shit, so I'll just say that the more kid and/or male oriented a movie is, the more surprised I would be to see a homosexual in it, unless the homosexual was an important part of the premise.
>>36311889Well to be fair, he'll wear a dapper suit and pretends to be a human to strangers and gets very offended if anyone questions his humanity, sometimes beating them with his Gentleman's Billyclub.
>>36311956I'm not wizards, I'm just surprised to hear that.
>>36311889We have to go one step beyond: an entire party of posh and erudite little animals!
Anthems are done. http://pastebin.com/ryjeeWLbHere's one I liked quite a bit.The Mirror Kingdom - God Save Emperor Francis ((God Save our Fairest)) - Heavily edited for obvious reasons. I can just imagine a bunch of soldiers forced to sing this, forcing down the urge to jump off the neatest bridge every word.God keep Grimhilde our saviorOur good Queen Grimhilde!Longe live Grimhilde our saviorIn the brightest splendor of happiness!May songbirds sing their songs for herA reminder of her eternal beautyGod keep Grimhilde our saviorOur good Queen Grimhilde!From the tips of her flagMay victory and fruitfulness shine!In her wonderful mindMay knowledge, wisdom and honesty sit!And with her God-Given lightningMay justice but prevail!God keep Grimhilde our saviorOur good Queen Grimhilde!
>>36311976You must live in a very egalitarian part of the world, then. I'm going to guess....Scandinavia?
>>36311996Half of it got cut off for some reason.May the abundance of her giftsPour over us, our houses and Empire!Break the power of wickedness, and revealEvery trick of the traitorous!May her Law always be our WillAnd may this be like laws to usGod keep Grimhilde our saviorOur good Queen Grimhilde! May she gladly experience the highest bloomOf her land and of our people!May she see them, united under her bene'vlenceLoom over all others!And may she never fear the edgeOf the tomb or the children's chorusGod keep Grimihlde our SaviorOur good Queen Grimhilde!
>>36311956Are you also surprised when you see black people in kid oriented movies? Like, a black guy appears on screen and you go all: Holy shit, a negro! This wasn't part of the premise! I'm surprised!
Also, I would like to move that we change the trait that makes you get +4 to persuade and deceive the opposite sex to be called "Can You Feel the Love Tonight?" instead of Charming TraitAll in favor?
>>36311984Hrm.....would a Nimble velociraptor fit? I do mean the actual velociraptor, the one that was about the size of a chicken.
>>36311999No, I live in Southern Europe: gays are not even close to be widely excepted, but I can't imagine being surprised by seeing one in a film.
>>36311976>>36312012I can't tell if the trolls are getting slightly more subtle or if we've actually invited /frz/ and tumblr in. Please say it's just the fucking trolls.
>>36312025Fine by me.
>>36312028Why the hell not?We might need to make a new race for though. We have to make sure the thread agrees on it. You can't just make a Small Carnosaur, that would make all the traits for it really dumb.
>>36312012Had I been born many decades earlier, I might very well have been.>>36312025I don't know, are we talking the trait I made with the drawback that you get unwanted attention? Not sure if that name would fit.
>>36312042Hey, I'm this guy >>36311976 and I'm just surprised that seeing a gay in a film could still surprise someone. They are not really hiding themselves nowadays.
>>36312059There were some raptor stats posted previously, though they never made it to a pastebin.....I'll have to archivedive, but I can get it done.
>>36312025We should change the description from being extremely attractive to just being very experienced manipulating the opposite gender or something, though. Taking a trait later on that makes you miraculously attractive is dumb, and saying that an ugly character couldn't take that trait is too.
>>36312089Well, first off, I don't think it would be entirely dumb to say "See these traits here? You can only take them at chargen.". And second, two words: Ugly. Duckling.
>>36312028Might have to come up with a template for small reptiles, or a bird/dinosaur chimera. So far it seems 3 characters out of 4-5 are gonna be social, someone who can just jump and claw a fucker's eyes out would be welcome.
>>36312061Yes, and you're right. Maybe Tale As Old As Time>>36312089It could be sort of a je ne sais quoi thing, you're attractive for an undefinable reason.
>>36312128I like this idea better than>>36312122Because traits that change physical appearance are silly.
>>36312128>>36312122>>36312089Chicks dig scars, right? You got a dashing scar, and now the ladies can't keep their hands off you. BAM.
>>36312127The monkey will be half charm, half face-smashing with the Gentleman's Billyclub. I'm actually planning to use some sort of "Hey, look over there!" followed by a club to the face/genitals, if the system can handle it.
>>36312148There are a few contexts other than>>36312162which could justify a change in appearance. A late bloomer finally blooms, and blooms fast. A magic spring or potion grants you beauty. Shit like that.
>>36312219It's also saying that you need to take the trait to be attractive, which is even dumber.
>>36312084>>36311976Maybe it's just a North American or Western thing then.
>>36312088I'd recommend that a Raptor have +1 rank of athletics, be Medium size, +2 Agility and +2 Robustness, -2 Charm.As for actual racial traits, I dunno.Suggestion for at some:Clever Girl: +2 on Melee and Brawl against a target that an ally has already hit.Pack Hunter: Receives +1 more from Music bonuses than usual.
>>36312236Okay, that is ridiculous. A rewording is in order to imply that it provides an almost unnatural beauty, and that it's not often needed to be one of the top 10 the most attractive people in a 10 mile radius.
>>36312337Statbloc from thread 22RaptorSize - Small to LargeNatural Weapons - Bite, Sickle Claw+2 to Agility, -2 to RobustnessRacial Traits-Clever Girl - +2 on Brawl rolls against an enemy already engaging another character-Thief Species - +3 on Legerdemain rollsRacial Powers-Fastest Thief- Spend a Will point for +10 on any Acrobatics or Athletics roll
>>36312371Okay, but all beast species so far give +1 rank of a skill to make up for the required rank of Linguistics. Racial traits: both good. I like them. Attributes: Beasts are supposed to get +2 to one stat more in the average total, so just give them +2 Intelligence, I guess, and then we're good.That power is fucking bonkers, that's like a heroic-tier power.
>>36312337As a velociraptor, it's going to be small, though bigger raptors should be allowed. Should I still be getting the Robustness bonus for a small creature?
>>36312417Nah, >>36312371 is right, it should probably be Intelligence rather than Robustness. Take his Clever Girl power over mine, perhaps let a tradeoff between Thief Species and Pack hunter (an OR choice), drop the power, and give +1 rank of Athletics.
>>36312361Any sort of trait that defines how a character looks is literally fucking retarded. Don't add 'unnatural beauty' or any shit like that, it's Disney. A character should be able to be as ugly or attractive as they want without taking a fucking trait.
>>36312441'Unnatural beauty' is a pretty good place to draw a line.>>36312439Hrm. Pity these play tests haven't seen too much music, then I might actually consider taking pack hunter.
>>36312361I still say that the trait should be based on an intangible, the idea that you can be more attractive through confidence and personality rather than physical good looks.
>>36312496Perhaps, but I'd like to keep unnatural beauty open as an option.
>>36312371>>36312337>>36312439>>36312417Okay, official raptor statblock:RaptorSize: Small to LargeNatural Weapons: Claw, Bite (+2 to Brawl)Traits: Clever Girl: +2 to Brawl rolls against an enemy already engaging another characterSprinter: 1 rank of Athletics.Thief Species: +3 to Legerdemain OR Pack Hunter: Receives +1 more from Music bonuses than usual.Attribute Bonuses: +2 Agility, +2 Intelligence, -2 Robustness.Look good? It fits on balance with the other animals, at least.>>36312496It's based on you being a smarmy fuck more than anything, though it could be anything from personality to voice to being easy on the eyes.
>>36312553Eh. I know it goes against our whole credo of rules simple, but do you really think these three raptors should all get the same attribute adjustments? Utahraptor looks pretty tough there.
>>36312624They'll also get size bonuses.
>>36312553Could give an alternative stat bonus like some other races to better differentiate between large and small sub-species something like> +2 Agility; +2 Intelligence and -2 Robustness OR +2 Robustness and -2 Charm
>>36309346>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2av9SQsMIi8But in honesty, I am okay with them making a magic add on, As long as they don't try to cram it into the base system.
Where would a dapper gentleman monkey come from.
>>36312624Size adjustments deal with the majority of that, but I'll agree with >>36312634 here, and give Large raptors the option of taking +2 Intelligence, +2 Robustness, and -2 Charm.
>>36312633>>36312624>>36312553>>36312634Alright, this looks like it'll work.
>>36312672That's a tough one. The only Europeans (I'm assuming you're using a European model of dapperness) with a stake in Africa, Asia or South America are the sorts that like to shoot animals. Of course, the EITC controls Oceania, and there's always the possibility of being an exotic pet.
>>36312673I actually meant "+2 Agility and you can choose between +2 Intelligence and -2 Robustness or +2 Robustness and -2 Charm" but that could work too.
>>36312672As in, what country still has dapper gentlemen after the villains won?
>>36312736Statblock redundancy is best, so I'll edit it to +2 Agility, +2 Robustness, -2 Charm.>>36312738Probably the EITC or King Louie's domain. That's a good bet for monkeys anyway.
>>36312738Well, they're jerks, but the EITC are pretty dapper otherwise.
>>36312648We won't. Although you might want some magic items.Then again, those are the only real options we have that allow PCs to cast spells, so...
So, in the least thread I saw someone mention a Japan fluff book, is there a link to that I could get? Also a general fluff overview would be nice. The fluff doc is nice but something a bit more general would be awesome.
>>36313007Japan's a clusterfuck of huns, EITC agents, pirates, and murderous spirits of the forest. People don't go to Japan anymore...
>>36312738>>36312768That's right, you could be a monkey from King Louie's domain imitating a dapper EITC gentleman.
>>36313005By the way, does anybody think it's a good idea to let GMs design items like with the Relic system from Scion? Basically, they have Purviews which are essentially "schools" of magic, and an item is more valuable the more purviews it can access. Of course, you then spend some of your own experience to unlock powers from said purview that said item lets you use, which might be a little too complex, but the idea of GMs assigning spells to items and having some idea how valuable they are is a good one, I think.
>>36313047Buying magical power for your items with your lessons? That could work.
>>36313047That sounds....okay.......But I'm not really convinced it's a good idea since that seems like a sort of 'easily botched by new gm' thing.It should still be something you need to TAKE from someone else, like off an Inner Circle or Villain.
Also, who alters the Rumor Mill? I made a change to the character of someone who is in the Abu rumors. https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/1357091/post-character-sheets-here-for-future-games#post-1359782
>>36313069I also had the idea of there being very few spells, but there are levels of each spell and different items might have different levels. For example, Jafar's Staff has Hypnotism 5 and Scrying 2 (It can hypnotise almost everything, but scrying can be inaccurate or vague, like most prophecies are.) while the Magic Mirror just has Scrying 5 (Ask it to show you something, and it shows you it. No questions asked, no limits, no vague prophetic bullshit.)
>>36313177So Hen Wen would've been Scrying 2.
>>36313023Huh, alright. Is there a doc with general fluff on each kingdom? Some have a ton but a lot of others have almost nothing. Like, something saying that Virginia is a colony of Atlantis or what the hell DOOMtown is would be nice.
>>36313177For example: You ask these items where the toilet is.>Scrying 2: To find your goal, you must ascend, and pass the two gates.>Scrying 5: Upstairs, third door on the left.
>>36313173We're putting PCs into the rumor mill? What? Why?
>>36313216Shit, that's really outdated.
>>36313177Well, then I'd recommend keeping to less than 12 spells in total so you don't end up with a Shadowrun or D&D issue of there being hundreds of identically named spells. Also add a recommendation that Scrying shouldn't be in the hands of the players until very late, if at all, and just forget it unless you're good with riddles.
>>36313216We should probably compile one.
>>36313261Fuck, really? This is why we need an actual lore doc. A bunch of stories and anecdotes are nice, but we really need something solid.
>>36313295It would be easier if you just read the old threads where we decided on all this fluff.
>>36313331If by easier you mean "massively time consuming and filled with needless bitching and arguing" then yes, it is easy.
>>36313331There are 37 full threads worth of arguments, playtests, crunch, trolls, shipping, and fluff. It's not reasonable to expect everyone to read them all.
>>36313331There's 36 'old threads' now. Yes, it would be nice if everyone went back and read them, but for the sake of facilitating them getting into the project quickly we do need to summarize our shit.
>>36313356>>36313377Fine, then don't read them.
>>36313331There's 36 pages.Hell, I have trouble keeping what happened in each thread straight, and I was there for almost all of them.Anyone interested in the No One adventure doc, in case they want to run it?
Question: How many people outside of the Hunters even know that Dinosaur Island exists?
>>36313455Well, I'd estimate Atlantis, the Shadowlands, and Virginia at least knows Madagascar exists.
>>36313473Atlantis, I can see. Why Shadowlands and Virginia?
>>36313382Yeah something that gives you general idea of the Land, like this. Agrabah:Most of the Middle East and North AfricaDesert, grassland and scattered junglesKing: JafarMain enemy type: Jinn and human guardsCulture: [ARAB STEREOTYPES]And so on.
>>36313455Alameda slim rides a brontosaurus
>>36313496Well, we do have a map that explicitly says most of that and implies the rest.
>>36313493Shadowlands is ~1920s ish knowledge, and they knew about Virginia. Atlantis is allied with Virginia, and probably has given some geography textbooks or something to them.
>>36313536>they knew about VirginaMadagascar. Shit!>>36313522It'd probably be best to lay it out for GMs who haven't been in this thread for ~20 threads, even if we are a while off from that happening.
>>36313536I see. But more importantly, how many people know about the dinosaurs? If you've got a dinosaur character who was stolen from the nest as an egg and one of their goals is 'find my true homeland', how hard it is to learn where that true homeland is will determine whether it's a On A Roll goal or a Hero goal.
>>36313522Map isn't that helpful in figuring out what the fuck life is like in the Mirror Kingdom, or what the hell Maleficent's realm even looks like. I'm still not entirely sure on France's fluff. Is it Inquisition, zombies or zombie inquisition? Is Frollo the pope or does he have a puppet pope?
>>36313642It'll give you the geography. But yeah, we do need to summarize shit.
>>36313642Froll is a lich. And the pope. He does have an inquisition.
>>36313624The average person in the Shadowlands or Virginia probably doesn't know shit about Madagascar other than that it's a big island near africa.The average high-school Atlantean graduate could probably tell you that strange animals live on Madagascar.You'd need an Atlantean college student or a mid-ranking member of the Global Huntsman Club to tell you that you were from Madagascar.>>36313642Frollo is a lich-pope with a puppet inquisition. Whether he uses illusions to make people think he's still got flesh is another story.Also, Maleficent's realm, etc. is supposed to be summarized in the K/L/Rs, which we seem to have been sidetracked on.
>>36313734Hm....so, heroic goal? Works for me.
>>36313694Thats a bit helpful, but its still not great. Like, are most of his soldiers the undead or human? How does he even feel about his fellow undead? Is life in France like the Middle Ages but kicked up to 40k levels of religious wars or...I don't know. This issue is that you have a lot of very good broad ideas and grand themes, but that doesn't help me when I'm trying to figure out what enemies to send out players or how to describe the region they're going through.
>>36313800The King, The Land, and The Rule was supposed to summarize this. I don't know when we stopped doing those. We should get back to them. There are some in the pastebin at the top of the thread, if you want to take a look.
>>36313800Send the FRENCH INQUISITION, which is even less expected than the Spanish Inquisition.
>>36313820Yeah, if people could write in the gaps of our K/L/Rs that'd be great. Most of them are pretty well done, though.
>>36313821Oh, I will. But it matters if they will be the ZOMBIE FRENCH INQUISITION or not. Because with zombies you can do all kinds of fleshcrafting bullshit.
>>36313844Frollo's minions are alive. However, in the right parts of France, you may have to deal with the invading army of Cauldronborn.
>>36313842Is there a link to the completed K/L/R's? They sound kinda what I've been looking for.
>>36313899>>36309274Literally right at the top of the thread.>King/Land/Rule: http://pastebin.com/Z8wFJrhh
>>36313390I personally like to believe that Frollo's inquisitors all dress up like the Redeemer and his followers. Complete with burning hat.
>>36313899Third post, second line of text.>>36309274King/Land/Rule: http://pastebin.com/Z8wFJrhh
>>36313910Oh, I'm dumb and skipped over them.
>>36313918Replied to the wrong post: >>36313844
>>36313965Funny. I sort of think of them as the Reclaimers of Menoth, or as red-robed, masked individuals with handcranked flamethrowers.
>>36313980>red-robed, masked individuals with handcranked flamethrowers.So yeah, the followers of the Redeemer, only appropriate to the time period.
We have completed a lot of K/L/Rs previously but haven't updated the pastebin. If someone wants to go Archive diving the ones we need are:>Agrabah (Caliph Jafar)>Leopard Kingdom (Queen La)>Arrendelle (Queen Elsa)>El Dorado (Tzkel-Kan)>The Royal Colony of Virginia (Governor Radcliffe)>The Global Elite Huntsmen's Club (All of them)>East India Trading Company (Cutler Beckett)>The Sea (Usula)>Bald Mountain (Chernobog)>The Spirit Realm (Aurora)>The Pridelands (Scar)>The Kingdom of the Red Flower (King Louis)>The Free Creatures (Bagheera)>The Shere Khanate (Shere Khan)>The Land of the Bear (Mor'du)>The Under-Empire (Ratigan)Many of these have been written, some have not. Only YOU can find them in the depths of 36 threads.
>>36314126I'll try writing the Agrabah one.
>>36314126I wrote Chernabog's a while back.King: Chernabog, the Wings of Terror, the King of Bald Mountain, but best known as HIM. Chernabog is an ancient, evil thing, a primordial horror from before the earth was forged. Chernabog's power is essentially unlimited, but HE only expresses it via physical might or foul magic that HE must personally use. Demons from places unknown flock to our world, trying to warm themselves around the fire of our reality like an ocean around a candle, and HE picks and chooses the best of them to let into Earth. HE spends the majority of his time on Bald Mountain unless something requires HIS presence, but when HE moves, all tremble in fear at HIS mighty shadow.
Land: The land ruled by Chernabog is a broken, scarred land generally referred to as Bald Mountain – though the Mountain itself is only in a small section of it. Nothing grows there. No plants, no fungi, and even animals find themselves stunted in growth. Yet no person starves to death in Bald Mountain. Instead, they grow thinner and hungrier and thinner and hungrier until there is almost nothing left but a suffering shadow of a person who exists only to hunger and be tormented by the Demons, horrible creatures of twisted flesh, fire, and darkness from other worlds, brought here by his fell power. There is no food. There is no water. Life itself is impossible under HIS shadow, but people are kept alive in their tortured half-life so that they may suffer for HIS pleasure. Visitors to Bald Mountain are generally left alone, for the land itself saps at their life. If they are armed or attempt to help the inhabitants, however, the Demons soon set upon them, rending their flesh and tearing them literally limb from limb as their numbers blot out the sun. Rule: Chernabog will ignore adventurers and heroes unless they attempt to help the 'citizens' of Bald Mountain, or unless they speak his name. Saying “Chernabog” attracts HIS attention. Saying it once merely informs HIM of who said it. Saying it twice lets HIM know where they are. On the third time, HE may come looking for them himself – and that is something that no one has ever survived. Even saying HIS name once will likely get a swarm of Demons sent after the fool, and the people of Bald Mountain will frequently advise against it.
>>36314126For the first three it's technically>The Caliphate of Agrabah>The Kingdom of the Leopard>The Kingdom of ArrendelleLet's try and get all the K/L/Rs from the previous threads and update the KLR pastebin.
>>36314126>my rewritten Prydain KLR from like 8 threads ago has not been put into the pastebinWho runs the pastebin anyways? Should we start a google doc of KLRs to help him catch the stuff he misses?
So what might a low level party encounter in the Wild West?
>>36314230Large, angry bison who will wreck your shit if you call them buffalo.
>>36314217Nobody runs it. Not me, you git.>>36314230Angry bison, bandits, angry cowboys, stampedes, occasional Shadowland raiders and spirits...
>>36314210Should we just make a separate 1d4chan page, or a google doc like >>36314217 suggested? The pastebin format is good if things don't need to be edited frequently, but...
What skill did we assign tracking ability to? Travel? Trying to write the velociraptor as being raised to be a hunting....hound-equivalent.
>>36314315Yeah, we should probably move it to a separate 1d4chan page. Easier to see what people change over a google doc.
>>36313177>>36313262Keep in mind that Disney sorcery (Wizardry, witchcraft, whatever) can never directly kill. It can cause effects that lead to death, but there is no magic that straight up kills things. This can probably be translated to "No direct damage spells" in game terms.
>>36314336Should be travel, could be argued as insight.>>36314348Anyone want to make it?
>>36314373Well, Ursula summons storms on occasion. Would that count?
>>36314397That would fall under "Effects that lead to death." She can do it for the express purpose of causing death, but that's technically not what the spell is for.
Threw up a basic 1d4chan page, editing it now to be actually fucking readable. If any noble anon goes archive diving to find the lost K/L/Rs I'd be much obliged.http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_K/L/Rs
>>36314451>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_K/L/RsGood.Paragraphing puts things into annoying boxes though. I'm fixing it right now.
>>36314214You messed up a little with the traits: a beast character automatically gets all his racial traits (except when he is asked to choose, in the case of canines you have to choose between Domesticated or Wild) but can only take one non-racial trait.
>>36314451Basic formatting on the K/L/Rs is up, it's mildly functional now.I once again call upon one brave anon to acrhivedive.
On a scale of 1-10, how Disney is a velociraptor with his own tiny helicopter?
>>36314840DISNEY AS FUCK
Thought I'd roll up a guy for the playtest tomorrow, or for a playtest eventually at least.-------Character Sheet---------Name: QasiRole: Sensible GuyCountry of Origin: Sunless EmpireSize: MediumSpecies: Chimera (Snake and Human)---Attributes---Robustness: 6/12Agility: 10/12Intelligence: 7/12Sensibility: 10/12Charm: 7/12Will: 3/3Strikes: 3/3---Skills---Acrobatics: 3Athletics: 3Melee: Ranged: 3Brawl: Prevent Harm: 3 Endure: Stealth: 4Legerdemain: 4Deceit: 4Persuasion: 4Intimidate: 4Academics: 0Science : 0Occult: 0Mechanics: 0Linguistics: 0Travel: 0Driving: 0Insight: 3Music: 0Craft: 0---Traits---Cold Blooded: +2 to Stealth and +2 to avoid Fear.A Man of Wealth and Taste: +2 to Bluff and Disguise when attempting to pass yourself off as a member of the upper crust of society.---Powers---Ever Thought About Unionizing?: Spend a will point to test Persuasion against a group. TN 10+1 for every person in the group. If you succeed, everyone in the group takes a Social strike. Does not work against Villains.---Ideals---If a tyrant or corrupt noble is too dumb to not get his shit stolen, it's his own fault.Give to the poor, but keep some behind. I may need it.Why use a sword when I have a perfectly adequate tongue (albeit forked)?---Goals---Zero: Travel. Have adventures. Steal from the fat, give to the starving.On-a-Roll: Rise up to the top of the Criminal Underworld before returning to the Sunless Empire.Hero: Topple Yzma and make humanity potions readily available throughout Yzmopolis.Physical Description: Tall, slender, snake-like eyes, flat nose, forked tongue, scales in some places.[Cont'd.]__________________________________________________________________________
>>36314927Take out the blank skill parts and post it here: https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/1357091/post-character-sheets-here-for-future-games#post-1361638 for future games and stuff.
>>36314927I'd recommend grabbing another trait. You only have two, and since you get base human ancestry that's 2 of your choice + 1 racial from Snake.
>>36314927Rundown: Qasi was born in one of the many peasant-filled slums of Yzmopolis. Exposed to crime and mutagenic fumes from an early age, it wasn't long until he became a serpent-tongued con man and thief in more ways than one. Eventually he was forced to leave the city in order to escape from the Kronk Klones (easily outwitted, but once they saw him he was chased out) and so left to seek fortune and adventure, and maybe some ill-gotten riches while he's at it.
>>36314927You're missing 1 Trait and 1 Power. Other than that, looks good.
>>36314959Oh, right. I thought it was just two INCLUDING the racial trait.Wait. Did he just steal my wallet?: +2 to sleight of hand rolls when stealing things.>>36314985Could've sworn 1d4chan said one power.Pierce the Truth: Grant your allies a +5 to overcome fear and a +5 to dispel illusions.
>>36315025One power of your choice + one Class power.
REMINDER: The thread is falling and has not been archived, if any feel like it ought to be archived.
>>36314939It keeps redirecting me to the homepage.
>>36315085Oh, you probably haven't joined the campaign. Use this link first: https://app.roll20.net/join/585117/yX0x1w
>>36315085You need a roll20 account first, and you need to join the campaign: https://app.roll20.net/join/585117/yX0x1w
>>36315110>>36315140It's up, and I've included equipment. How shit is the concept?
>>36315340Well, I like it.
>>36315340Not sure why you have a point in Charm.
>>36315393What that was supposed to say was 'Not sure why you have ONLY a point in charm'. He's a bit jack-of-all trades and master of none, but that's totally fine with this system
Just pointing out, you can't use the crossbow and the shield at the same time. Scimitar and shield works.
Tired Archivist Anon here.Archive or No Archive?
>>36315464Presumably the point is to throw down the shield, then use it as cover while firing/reloading the crossbow. Historically accurate!>>36315485Always archive.
>>36315428I might edit that, actually. Good point.
>>36315485Why would we not archive?
Name: Nasty Little BeastyRole: Nimble GuyCountry of Origin: Dinosaur IslandSize: SmallSpecies: Velociraptor---Attributes---Robustness: 6/12Agility: 12/12Intelligence: 10/12Sensibility: 10/12Charm: 6/12Will: 3/3Strikes: 3/3---Skills---Acrobatics: 4Athletics:4 Brawl: 3 (5)Prevent Harm: 4Mechanics: 3 Stealth: 3Legerdemain: 0 (3)Intimidate: 3Linguistics: 3 (Human, bird, dog)Travel: 3Drive 3---Traits---Sprinter: 1 rank of Athletics.Thief Species: +3 to Legerdemain.Clever Girl: +2 on Brawl rolls against an enemy already engaging another character.One Jump Ahead: +2 to Athletics and Acrobatics when fleeing from authority or more than three pursuers---Powers---Quick Draw King: You may always make one attack in the surprise round, and never suffer penalties in the surprise round.An Impressive Performance: Spend a will point. Gain a +5 bonus to Acrobatics or Athletics for the rest of the scene and you may use it in the place of Music. Additionally, your movement speed doubles.---Ideals---If it's smaller than you and moves, it's probably food.If it's bigger than you and moves, it might think you're food. Brains and nimbleness will always beat out dumb brawn.---Goals---Zero: Learn geography.On-a-Roll: Acquire an aircraft...a better one, one suitable for timely and reliable long distance travel.Hero: Find his true homeland.
>>36315521Also, can we make Disguise Kits a thing? I was thinking that maybe when I'm going around among humans not familiar with Chimerae, rather than wearing a hood or a mask and looking all suspicious I just use makeup to make my scales look like human skin and say it's scars caused by a disease, while wearing lenses to cover up my eyes. Just need to not fully open my mouth when I speak so they don't see the tongue, and we're fine. Possibly put a wrapping around my face and cover my nose, claim it's a war wound instead of saying I look like Voldemort.
>>36315555Equipment:Heli-raptor: Velociraptor-sized helicopter. Reduces travel time to 1/4, more if you can save a lot of distance by going as the bird flies. Fuel, however, is a problem.....not to mention the shoddy construction.Masterwork but heavy tool box: +3 to Mechanics, but good luck lugging it around with less than 10 RobustnessPhysical Description:Fairly average looking for his species; tan, brown and black feathers, big nasty claws and teeth, hungry eyes, the works.Rundown:Stolen from his nest as an egg by a young hunter seeking to emulate the legendary McLeach, "Nasty Little Beasty" was raised first as a hunting falcon, then as a hunting dog when it was found he couldn't fly. As intelligent as he could be nasty, he soon deduced that he was neither falcon nor dog, but some sort of lizard, like that Joanna that McLeach always kept around...but he still had feathers and walked sort of like a bird and could hunt in a pack as well as any dog. He was never bothered by this; he simply accepted that he was some sort of lizard-bird-dog. But never felt right among the other hunting animals, and wished to be among his own kind. He was also curious about exactly where he came from.Neither the hunter nor the other hunting animals provided any answers, preferring to mock or kick him, so set about his own solution. It took quite some time, but eventually, he managed to scrap his own little aircraft together, and he flew away from that nest of bullies, the only family he had ever known. But being reunited with his true kin would be worth it!Unfortunately, he soon concluded that not only did he have no idea where he was going, but he didn't even have the fuel to get there. Time for an emergency landing....Now where in France is he going to find himself some fuel?
>>36315522>>36315500>>36315499>>36315494Thank you, compatriots. The thread has been archived with the others. My apologies for my tiredness.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+VictoriousPlease remember to vote it up along with the others, as it seems we've had a number of downvotes of late due to earlier unpleasantness.
>>36315587It depends on your limit to equipment; you can get equipment totalling a +5 bonus to your skills, so if you wanted a +3 disguise kit you'd have +2 left over to spend on other equipment.
>>36315644Does that include weaponry and armour?
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I just sat and read all of the fluff stories. I just wanted to say I loved them. I can't wait until my computer arrives and I can hopefully contribute with a short story. I'm kind of stuck with rumor mill until then.
>>36315726What about weapons with disadvantages, like Crossbows? Does taking a whole round to reload detract from their cost?
>>36315885The disadvantage is the counterbalance to the +3 to Ranged, so I'd say no
>>36315917They get a huge +3 to Ranged, so no.
>>36315943I obviously meant to link to >>36315885Crossbows don't even have a Robustness requirement, so the loading time is there to balance them.
>>36315917Wait, so why are one-handed weapons only +1? No negative modifiers on those.
You should go through and enforce the item costs on the char sheets that have been submitted
>>36316000Because they only give you a +1.
>>36316000Because they only give +1 Melee, unless they're a well-crafted weapon in which case they cost +2 for their +2 bonus.
>>36316000Because that's just it, it's a small bonus. You can even use shields with them. It's the vanilla bonusTwo handed weapons give a bigger bonus, +2, but you can't use a shield.The crossbow is more potent, cue the +3, but then it starts giving you an actual counterpoint.
>>36316000You pay for the bonus you get.
>>36316002Well, I'll see what I can do. I've got adventures to plan and crunch to balance, and my guess is that people will want another playtest next week, so I have to prep for that too.
>>36316043>>36316046Does a +1 one-handed weapon wielded with two hands yield a +2?
>>36315943>>36316000Would throwing knives be a +1 or +2?>>36316054So shouldn't every weapon just cost +1, if the negative modifiers are there to cancel them out?
>>36315885>>36316000All one handed and two handed weapons work the same, except certain particular weapons with special rules, like crossbows and greatswords.>>36316105+1: you throw them with one hand, so they are one handed weapons.
>>36316105Uh, no, not necessarily. The negative parts aren't there to cancel the bonus out, they are there to BALANCE them. Cancelling out the bonus would be silly
>>36316105No, because moving from +0 to +1 is not as big as moving from +2 to +3. Getting such a high bonus needs a penalty of some kind just to keep the cost equal to the bonus.
>>36316153>>36316162Oh, okay then. I'll just replace the crossbow with throwing knives.
>>36316162>moving from +0 to +1 is not as big as moving from +2 to +3.Yes, this: a +3 that can go to +4 if the crossbow is of great quality is HUGE. We have the loading time just to keep them balanced, but they don't cancel the bonus.
>>36316088Don't think so, unless it's well-crafted. So, well-made longswords would give +2 bonuses and still be able to be carried with shields, you'd just need to spend ALL your starting equipment on armor+weapons+shields.
Gonna start a new thread, since threadstarter seems to be asleep.
>>36316206Well, guess my sword is now well-made then.>>36316236Remember >>36315738
>>36316236Thank you Nob.
>>36316088I'd go case by case: you can't throw a throwing knife with two hands, so no bonus, but maybe you can use an arming sword with two hands.
New thread; >>36316290I think I've gotten everything properly in the OP, let me know if I fucked something up. other than the title, I know it's missing an N.
>>36309833>>36309871I believe Ratatouille is also getting incorporated in the setting as well.Also, Boo is being tossed around as a time-traveling escapee from the monster world.
>>36313409I'd appreciate it, since I'd like to try playtesting a campaign sometime. It'd be faster if I already had a premade campaign.
>>36314126Scar, Elsa, and Chernobog have all had theirs done, and the Horned King, Yzma, and Captain Hook all have had theirs updated.I can repost them if necessary.