Welcome to the XXIV installment of "Disney Villains Victorious."Disney Villains Victorious is a new /tg/ homebrew project based on the idea of a world, not entirely unlike our own, in which all the villains from all the Disney animated feature films were not defeated at the ends of their movies but were instead victorious, completing their goals in part or in whole.It is a world in which Ursula rules the seas, defied only by the uncatchable Pirate Lords, the cutthroat merchants of the East India Trading Company and the might of Atlantis and its magitech-toting mercenaries. It is a world where the grasslands and jungles and forests are prowled not only by fearsome primal beasts like Shere Kahn and Scar but also by the ruthless, tireless hunters that stalk them. It is a world where Europe has been divvied up between evil sorcerous monarchs like Maleficent, the Horned King, Grimhilde and Jafar, mad, inquisitorial clergymen like Frollo, and Dark Gods like Hades and Chernobog.It is not, however, a world completely devoid of courage, heroism or hope. Around the world, the PCs' characters and their allies plot and plan, fight and strive and win their own victories against the villains that would rule them. The time to fight and to be free is now.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorioushttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_VictoriousAssembled pastebins:King/Land/Rule: http://pastebin.com/Z8wFJrhhClass roles: http://pastebin.com/fj58NSYMXP: http://pastebin.com/61Je2agNBeast Species: http://pastebin.com/ZNVPBJWjSetting Traits: http://pastebin.com/8RRbwMQTTRAITS: http://pastebin.com/uHCXg4EVPOWERS:http://pastebin.com/pQDDqisUGeneric Traits: http://pastebin.com/MZwvGsyXLore & Fluff: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qj_IIuF_rqh_F2L-SeYn-dBiwDTtwWFpnbcXyfcgeE8DA RULEZ: http://pastebin.com/8zqBfdN2
>>36182412Shit, twentyfive.We should slow this down a bit or we risk burning ourselves out.
1d4chan page right, checkNumber of the installment on the OP, checkNumber of the installment in the message....Damn it, OP!Anyway, new thread. TIME FOR HEROICS
>>36182448Oh cripes. Sorry! It completely slipped my mind!
>>36182446Well, we do have most of the system done in alpha by now, so nowadays these threads are mostly fun and some arguing. I think we won't burn ourselves out too much>>36182497It's fine, just messing with ya
IRC/Roll20 game up when?
On the new skill system, the skills instead of starting at level 1 go straight to rank 3 when you put the first point in them, right?It says there that the cap for Zero level characters is 4 ranks in a skill. Does that mean that you can only apply one more point to any skill on Zero level, or that they go up to 8?>>36182625Later tonight I'll see if I can try to run a quick thing, hopefully
>>36182625I ran one last night.
>>36182641You motherfuckerHow did it go? Does the system work? Got storytime? was it fun?
>>36182639Skills go from 0 to 3, from 3 to 4, from 4 to 5 and from 5 to 6.I thought that was pretty clear in the 1d4chan page.
new concept for Yzma, Suggestibility potion. after all, why go to war with someone when you can have them agreeing with /whatever/ you say after a few drinks.
>>36182625>trying to organize a full and competent /tg/ tabletop game groupThat's a hell not even Journal Blog could conceive of.
>>36182641Don't leave us hanging. Was it online? If so, can we see a log?
>>36182641>saying this and then leavingTruly worse than hitler
>>36182816Hey Sverd, I'm back on my pc. I can give you a pastebin for that pianist character from the West if you're sitll up for that songAlso, where the hell is everybody?
>>36182824Course.Everybody else is buggering around either writing up stats/fluff or waiting for someone to start a game.
>>36182852I've been fiddling around trying to figure out why I'm getting a 403 error on 4chan all morning. Fortunately, it doesn't seem to be affecting my clover app
>>36182852http://pastebin.com/uDUfSnX2Quick summary being, he used to be a pianist in one of the cassino. The kind of guy that would cower and get out of the way when the big guys appeared, and would eternally want no trabbu, things were okay. Lost his wife years ago, raised his son as best as he couldThen his son got sick of it, told him that it was no way to live, cowering in fear and left to join the Slim Gang. Bryce knew it was true, and so he quit his job and set off to try and become a real man, to one day come back and gain the respect of the West and his son back.He's kind of a coward but he is very, very willing to try and stand up now, because what else does he have to lose? Not very good with those revolvers, but he's trying to get better. Trick-shots are the stuff of legends. He's pretty bro-tier with friends, loyal to a fault.Sounds like pic related
>>36182945So what kind of song are you looking for here? I was thinking along the lines of something about having confidence in himself, but you know the character better than I do.
Where does Kingdom Hearts come into all of this?
>>36182982I was actually thinking something more like "I'll figure this out....Somehow. Or die trying."Meanwhile, I think I'll try my hand at writing something. Possibly my version of Frollo's defeat/redemption. Got any ideas/requests?>>36183013It doesn't
>>36183013It comes into your mom, like most things do.
>The day had finally arrived. Oh, it had FINALLY arrived after nine long and grueling months of waiting. Today would be the day that Gaston LeGume's son would be born, his first son and the heir to his impressive legacy. It was a day he had been anticipating for a long time, and not just since Belle, his bride, had told him that she was pregnant. He had been looking forward to this moment from the very day he'd first laid eyes on he brown haired woman and had decided that he would make her his wife and the bearer of his sons. >Today was the day at long last, and Gaston scarcely thought he could be more happy than he was right now. Well, he could have been more happy, perhaps, if he had been allowed into their bedchamber while his wife was actually delivering his son. It had been a grueling nine months for more reasons than a new father's anticipation. It had been a difficult pregnancy with more than a few scares and close calls, but his wife was a strong woman and, he knew, would bear him a strong child.>Even so, the midwife had insisted that Belle be attended during her labor by all of her assistants and the town physician, leaving very little room for a man as large and robust as Gaston to remain comfortable. He had instead taken to standing in the hall just outside the open door, chest bursting with a new father's pride as he imagined all that he would teach his firstborn about the world and their place in it. Wrestling. Drinking. Wooing. An of course, hunting. Once this boy was fully grown the two of them would set up a hunting dynasty that would be famous throughout all the world!
>>36183053Oh boy. This isn't going to end well.
>>36183053NO ONE GETS CUCKOLDED LIKE GASTON!
>>36183053The irony smells
>>36182670Yeah, it all worked pretty well.The system itself allowed us to get things going fast. I'll give a rough summary >Party consists of a Arabian Trader, a Alantean Scholar, A alantean Merc and a chinse martial artists >They are hired by the EITC to secure trading rights with a large hun controlled port by any means they deem necessary >They are escorted to the Local Lord's palace, where the players are given the situation >The peasants are revolting, scholar passess ocult checks and sees that Huns seem to be prepared to fight magic>Lord brings scholar aside to talk while rest of the players go off to food hall and eat>Lord reveals he is actually half hun and half chinese, and unlike other generals, actually pretty scared about the whole spirtual rebellion thing.>He tells player that if the rival Huns see him not being a dick, they will attack. >He tells the scholar to help redirect the Revolt into a different Hun Province, so he can give some slack to his people>scholar agrees and party heads out they stop at a apothecary and try to pick up supplieS>Apothecary is interrupted by party, and acidentally upsets ancestor>Arabian Trader grabs supplies off shelf>Ancestors take exception to that and possess the shop keep and attack>combat begins, possessd guy has two strikes>Trader dodges attack, Scholar uses a small ritual to try and exercise the ghosts, gets a strike in. >Merc blows a whole through the shop keeps head, spirits rise out of the body cursing the party. They proceed to run like hell.And thats where we stopped
>>36183178Noice.>>36183207Chernobog is immune to love and friendship.
>>36183178That all sounds pretty good, hopefully it was funWhere do you plan on taking the campaign next?
>>36183207Is this the troll from earlier coming back for revenge because he couldn't get medieval fantasy into our setting? Either way, no. Fuck off.Also, Chernabog ate the powers of love and friendship.
>>36183020I liked writing this a lot.Sung to the tune of “I’m Free” – FootlooseBRYCELooking into the sky I know I’m rightKnow that I’ll figure it out, know that I can fightWe only get one chanceBut noting ties my handsKnow what I wantListen to meNothing I wantIs out of my reach(I’M STUCK)HEAVEN HELP THE MAN who fights his fearHardly know if anything is keeping me hereSure there’s some reason that I’m hanging onI’m sure I’ll make it right cause here’s where I belong(I’M STUCK)Running away has never made me freeNothing I’ve held on to is a guaranteeSo I can stop running nowAnd I’ll never fall downCause I’m shaking the pastAnd breaking the chainsTaking controlIf that’s what it takes(I’M FREE)HEAVEN HELP THE MAN who fights his fearHardly know if anything is keeping me hereSure there’s some reason that I’m hanging onI’m sure I’ll make it right cause here’s where I belong(I’M FREE)HEAVEN HELP THE MAN who fights his fearI’ll look it in the eye face life right right now right hereMaybe I can finally right all my wrongsArms held high and side by side I’m strong.
>>36183207Chernobog already devoured all the love and friendship in the world.
>>36183228Im gona run one more session of this campaign, then run a game in the wild west.
>>36183053>Caught up in the rich future he so clearly foresaw, Gaston very nearly missed the increasingly strained groans and grunts of his wife and the soft but worried admonitions of the midwives and doctor attending her. Something was going wrong with the labor, a possibility that the man hadn't even entertained, leaving him somewhat dumbfounded. He pushed himself away from the wall and through the doorway, demands already out of his mouth half-spoken when he saw Belle's face, the woman staring right at him with a wild intensity he had never seen before.>The look of desperation on his wife's face was enough to give even the Master Hunter pause, which was just enough for the doctor, a puny mincing little man to lay hands on him and push him back out into the hall. So flabbergasted was Gaston that he couldn't even utter a complaint as the door was shut in his face, the voices of the doctor and those old hens of his raising in alarm as his wife let out something sounding like a strangled scream. Rousing himself angrily out of shock, the hunter tried the handle and found it locked against him.>He began beating on the door with one large fist, demanding as loudly and authoritatively as he could to be let in and to be told what was happening. Something was wrong with his son and with his wife, and he would be damned if a quack with a degree and a gaggle of women were going to keep him from them. Through the solid wooden door he heard the head midwife that Belle would need to push hard and to push now, and the strength and ferocity of his wife's scream as she did so was something that, for just a moment, frightened Gaston more than he had been in a long time.
>>36183207Anyone replying to the post I just replied to from this point on is a complete moron. Ignore the troll.
>>36183178Pretty cool, man!Did they like the Skills, the Traits and the Powers.
>>36183249>Gaston is scared by how hard she's screamingI like this. It shows that he genuinely does care for Belle. Makes him seem less objectively dickish.
>>36183257There wasn't really any combat till the end, but they used their traits fairly well. Powers were a bit unused, but then again, they were all combat focused. Im gona have to make a note about raising the target bar though. Unless they are entirely devoid of the skill, it seems that most players can make any check under 20
>>36183276Yes, he does.
>>36183235I had never heard this song before, but I turned it on and sung along and....You are a Mouse among men, based Sverd, thank you. If I have the chance I'm definitely finding a way to make him sing that
Idea regarding King Louie:He once tried learning from a human shaman his monkeys kidnapped how to commune with the Spirits. He accidentally summoned a servant of the Firebird. He may have developed some kind of pyromancy, and may now have his monkeys worship the Great Eagle of the Red Flower.
>>36183356Firebird has no servants, and King Louie is an honarary member of the hunters guild.
>>36183243Sure, but what are the plans for the next session? Will the spirit come back for revenge in an epic boss battle?Give us some thing to get the brain juices flowing
>>36183374Fine, an avatar or whatever. Or some completely unrelated spirit linked to fire.
>>36183374Well, I guess it's all optional. Maybe in your setting he's a Hunter, maybe in mine he's the leader of a cargo cult of pyromaniac monkeys.
>>36183307Yes, 20 is the Target Number for what a PC would consider to be basic fucking around.We call it challenging because it's where they start being able to fail, but it's though or hard.For example: breaking down a normal door is TN 20, but any door stronger than average will have a higher TN to break it.
>>36183232>couldn't get medieval fantasy into our setting?But pretty much all of Europe is already Medieval fantasy.
>>36182412THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I GO OUT TO GET DRUNK
>>36183435I know, but this one guy wanted GENERIC medieval fantasy. As in, elves, dwarves, all that stuff. In their normal form, not as we have them in the actual setting.
This is the troll who posted the My Little Pony pic. I failed my Will Save to resist trolling, I'm sorry. Couldn't help it.That said, I have an honest but blunt question about the setting in term of mood. Are you guys going for more of a wistful "got to set things right" mood similar to Kingdom Hearts or some edgy Warhammer/Game of Thrones snuff-festival. Because from what I'm reading it can go either way. I think reading in a previous thread about Merida being raped and torn apart by the Dire Bear Mor'du and it made me wonder what you guys were trying to go with.
>>36183379I plan on having them attack the revolt, and then lead them off. I am going to give hints of Mulan leading the revolt, so i might have her give chase after the players
>>36183494We are just making a setting where the villains won: the Players of each campaign get to decide its tone.
>>36183494Were trying to make it capable of going either way
>>36183494>Implying it can't be both>Implying a world in which people are being raped and torn apart by demon bears can't also be a world in which things can be made better.
>>36183249>There was in the wake of the scream a single, brief moment of quiet in which the father to be heard the midwives and doctor draw in a collective gasp, and then a brief moment more before another sound reached his ears. It was the sound of a baby crying out for its first breath of air, and Gaston felt relief flood his body and his heart soar. But, again there was something wrong. The crying he heard wasn't the strong, loud crying he'd been expecting but more of a keen yowling between mewling whimpers. Almost the sounds of a small animal.>Even as he tried to puzzle this new information out, the noises from inside the room ceased and were replaced by the hurried whispers and murmurs of the doctor and midwives, the clattering of bowls and the rustling of bedding and the sloshing of water. Left standing confused and impotent outside the closed door, Gaston found he could do nothing with himself but wait until the way was opened to him, feeling as much the fool as he felt worried for the future of his family. Eventually, after what felt like a long while, the doctor unlocked the door and, looking pale and troubled, nodded the larger man inside.>Gaston was forced to squint as he entered, as one of the midwives had taken it upon herself to begin opening the curtains to the bedchamber, flooding the room with light. There, in the oversized bed lay his wife, looking so haggard and weak that he could scarcely believe that this was the same woman he'd married. She was smiling though, dreamily, which he took to be a good sign, and was holding a large, swaddled bundle in her arms, which he took to be a better one. Once more the hunter was relieved and, ignoring the frantic protestations of the midwives and doctor, strode up to his new family, ready to welcome his son into the world.
>>36183494Could go either way, really.Myself, don't want anything to do with grimdark or anything. No bear rape or any such shit, the world has gone to shit but the PCs are gonna set it right
>>36183494Depends more on the PCs than anything else, and GM decisions.Generally killing/acting evil by the PCs is frowned upon, but there are some pretty dark elements in the world. That being said, it's still Disney.
>>36183494>there are two kinds of games: Kingdom Hearts and Warhammer. No middle ground
>>36183494Also it is worth noting that the fates of most of the princesses are only rumors. I think the only one that's nailed down for certain is Kida from Atlantis, who is still part of the Heart of Atlantis; and even there there's ambiguity as nobody knows if she's still alive in there.
>>36183568There's also Mulan, who is a wight.
>>36183581And Anna, who is not technically alive so much as imperfectly recreated.
>>36183541WHY WOULD YOU MAKE ME WAIT FOR WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YOU BITCH
>>36183546Is it though? The powers of friendship don't even work, since Chernabog ate them.
>>36183541in b4 furry son
My 'songs' page just reached page 25 with a bunch more shit in muh personal archives>>36183657However, that doesn't mean that it's not still Disney, in which the characters rely on one another despite it no longer holding any functional game-breaking powers.
>>36183657That just means the PCs have to restore them.Also, enjoy your Barrey-based ban.
>>36183657You just need to bring more love and friendship into the world.
>>36183657That doesn't stop the world itself from creating heroes to set things right, anon.
>>36183657That was mostly a joke, I feel.Chernobog might have made the powers of love/friendship weaker, but let's be real nowThe only way for him to erradicate them compeltely, is by going to brawl with Walt's spirit.And as the first threads explained, Walt is the win condition against Cherny bigogg
MUSICAL INTERLUDESing to the tune of “I Still Believe” – Miss Saigon.SVERDLast night I stayed up watchingMy mind just racingAnd then I started movingGot up, walking towards… Something.Yes, I know my home is far awayBut when I see the falling snow I knowIt is my home… still.I stillI still believeI will returnI know I willMy heartAgainst all oddsHolds stillELSALast night the world was sleepingOnce more the nightmare cameI heard you cry out somethingA word that sound like…a nameAnd it hurts me more than I can bearKnowing part of me is never thereNever knowBut stillI still believeThe time will comeWhen nothing tears my world apartMy heart, forever moreHolds stillSVERDYes, stillI still believeI know as long as I can I keep believingI’ll liveI’ll liveLive to come homeI will return… I will returnAnd I alone know whyELSAIt’s all over, it’s clearSo many things to fearBut I don’t know what’s haunting meWhy can’t I just come insideWhat must I from myself hideI just can’t see(SIMULTANEOUS SINGING)SVERDFor stillELSAAnother empty nightI can’t make it rightSVERDI still believeELSAThey aren’t safe with meSVERDAs long as IELSABut I wish that myself could tellStop my feelings from their sellSVERDCan keep believing, I’ll liveELSAWhat my hell must beSVERDI’ll liveELSAI can’t sleep nowSVERDI will returnELSAI can only cry nowSVERDAnd I know whyELSAIt’s not my life nowSVERDI swearELSAI swearBOTHUntil I dieWhat's everyone else working on?
>>36183696I feel like having mutiple waus to defeat Chernobog could cool. But they must involve summoning the Dawn.>Calling the fire bird to come and slam into Chernobog, bringing the dawn.>Plunging a sword quenched in pure sunlight into Chernobogs heart >Ringing 8 bells gathered from around the globe and ring them in the church>Unleashing the largest fire works display ever created, and driving him back into the moutain>Summoning up enough ice to freeze over not only bald moutain, but also his dark heart>Unite in a huge call to the sun, a musical number consisting of millions, calling for a end to the darkness
>>36183696Not even Sherry Grog can make the power of love and power of friendship go away. He can certainly kill people who channel it but he cannot stop new heroes from being born.
Not to reopen the can of worms over japan, but the main reason for advocating ghibli was the slight disney connection, despite the undisney feel. Are there any non disney productions that DO set the right tone in japan? I'm not terribly well experienced in such things, so I'm not sure myself.On another note, anyone up to include ferngully? I'd live to see hexxus running rampant.
>>36183887I feel like completing all those tasks should be required to take down Chernobyl, but how could the firebird hurt him? I mean Chernie doesn't have a weakness to fire, just sunlight.
>>36183862Later I'll probably do something with Maleficent and Prince Philip since there seems to be an astounding lack of it.
Anyone else have a character and/or setting to write a song about while we wait for people to stat things and someone to start a game?
>>36183887That last one sounds like someone asking for a SONG
>>36183887>Unite in a huge call to the sun, a musical number consisting of millions, calling for a end to the darkness>Ringing 8 bells gathered from around the globe and ring them in the church>Calling the fire bird to come and slam into Chernobog, bringing the dawn.I like this alot.I feel like there should be a way to use the aurora borealis to defeat him as well.
>>36183862A one-off adventure to be run later today about freeing a small town in the Shadowlands.
>>36183887>>36183985I don't think the Firebird should be able to stop harm Chernobog.The Firebird and the Aurora Borealis together, on the other hand. . .
>>36183997Praise be to Nob, one of the three people throughout hundreds willing to GM.Finding something to write a song about summoning the sun across millions.
>>36184014You underestimate the Firebird.Walt is Good incarnate. Chernabog is Evil incarnate. That is how those two are so invincibly powerful. Meanwhile, the Firebird is Chaos incarnate.
>>36184014Come on. The Firebird can at least wound him.
>>36183950Well if we need to re-summon the sun there's one guy we should think about calling.What's the opinion on Don Bluth films in general? Like the Secret of NIMH?
>>36184036Man, it's just Fire Incarnate at best.
>>36184046Forgot to post the pic.
>>36184046Chanteclaire can't actually bring the sun.
>>36183950Pirates. Ursula. The EITC. The Huns. Aurora Borealis. WE HAVE ENOUGH GUYS IN JAPAN JUST FROM DISNEY. STOP TRYING TO FIND MORE THINGS. FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH THIS.
>>36184045Wound him, yes, but actually destroy him? Chernobog is a bigger Evil than the Firebird.Fire and Celestial Lights together, though, should totally get you the Sun as result.
>>36184071This is 4chan, m8.Expect Japanophiles.
>>36184051It's destruction incarnate. Otherwise, it wouldn't be nearly as much of a threat as everyone's making it out to be.
>>36184100I expect them on /jp/ and /a/. This is /tg/. And don't give me that crap about why 4chan was made, that was years ago. Things change. New boards have been made.
>>36184120And despite that, the future of having to deal with the fact that this board is for Japanophiles refused to change...
>>36184100>>36184120I immediately regret making the second post because I probably just derailed the thread.
>>36184046>Secret of NIMHThe rats of NIMH are either working for Professor R or were tractor'd by the farmer, the way I see it.
>>36184100That's irrelevant. We have people in Japan. Nothing else is needed.
Hey, I finished the next episode of Disney Team Prime.http://pastebin.com/myFLZEHgLink to the First Episodehttp://pastebin.com/ZYcCbw1P
>>36184156Japan is still japanese. It just has no overarching Disney plot line other than the fact that the people are menaced by a bunch of different Disney factions at once.
>>36184212Like a lot of places: Japan is not special.
The tale of the Green Knight is complete. But before you read it, please skim over the basics of Nine Men's Morris for comprehension's sake.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Men's_Morris
>>36184071My first post on the matter, mate, I just wasn't around to toss my two cents earlier. I don't even have anything in mind, just wondering if there was something usable we missed.Chill your rageboner.
Is Dinosaur Island completely wild, or are there human settlements there?
>>36184212Japan isn't special. The king's will doesn't shape the land like it does in other places.Also, some fluff on how the whole King/Land thing works:At the dawn of civilisation, the First Kings used ancient and powerful magic to ensure that their land would always match their will. As such, as long as true and noble kings ruled the nations, there would be no disputes, and all people would be happy. Unfortunately, not all kings have been true and noble.
>>36184250Sir Harold the Cunning, Green Knight of the Round Table>King Arthur and his companions continued on the road on which the cauldron mist was thin, and they found no more Cauldronborn; Sir James and all the Black Knights who had stood guard before him had indeed let none pass. Soon, they came upon a great barred gate with a crowd of mercants and farmers angrily milling about and grumbling in front of it. Curious, Arthur took one aside and asked unto him "What seems to be the problem here?">"The Green Knight bars our path!" the peasant exclaimed. "He keeps the gate closed, and refuses to open it unless someone defeats him at Nine Man Morris! We have all lost once, and some sorcery keeps us from playing him again!" The peasant looked over Arthur and his companions before speaking again. "You and your band are strong of arms.....please, force him to open the gate! He claims it will only open if he is defeated at his game, but he must be lying!">"Cool your blood, the gate will be open soon enough." Arthur bade the peasant. He pushed his way through the crowd to the gate, where he found two seats and a table of stone, with the board of Nine Man Morris carved upon it. Sitting at the table was a handsome man with a certain brightness in his eyes. He was dressed in full chainmail, a curaiss and a heavy healm, all in a rich, elegant green. There was a shield of the same green by his side, and at his hip a mighty longsword. "What is your name?" Arthur asked.>"Sir Harold the Cunning." the Green Knight answered. "This gate is enchanted; to pass, beat the challenge granted. Outwit me in this game to enable my summons to the true king's round table.">"Can I not just give you your summons without playing the game?" Arthur asked.>The Green Knight chuckled. "Give me all the summons you please, but the point of the gate is to force you to prove who you really are. If you really are the king, then you'll win the game, and I can accept your summons."
>>36184165Very nice. I really like the characterization you're giving the dinosaur. I nearly lost it when he declared that kings do not need arms.
>>36184284>Arthur put his hand to his chin, a pensive look on his face. "If I can only play you but once, can I watch you play others before I play you myself?">The Green knight shrugged. "I don't see why not. Anyone who smart enough to beat me at all would be smart enough to want to study my playstyle first." And so the Green Knight played each of Arthur's companions, defeating them all handily. When it finally came time for Arthur to play, both players seemed very confident as they put their stones on the table. But Sir Harold's confidence suddenly drained when Arthur rose and drew out Excalibur. "What are you doing?!">"The purpose of having you play my companions was to see how you tended to place your stones at the beginning." Arthur explained. "With that knowledge, I have manipulated you into letting me place my stones in positions that will let me defeat you without taking a single turn.">The Green Knight looked at the table, and then chuckled. "Really? I see not a single mill on the table.">"There will be seven after I've cut my own lines into the table." Arthur smirked.>The Green Knight recoiled from the table. "Why, that's cheating! The enchantment will not let you do it!">"We shall see." Arthur said. Then, with Excalibur, Arthur carved 7 lines into the table, each one creating a new mill. As he finished the last mill, the gate suddenly shattered as though struck by a giant's sledge.>As the gathered crowd cheered, the Green Knight could do little but stare at the board in shock. "I’ve….I’ve lost! Why, you must be King Arthur to have outwitted me! HAIL, KING ARTHUR!"Well, how'd I do this time?
>>36184165Noice.Finished the sun-summoning song.MUSICSung to the tune of “Make them hear you” – Ragtime, 1998 versionPARTY LEADIt is HERE we tell our story!Make it echo far and wide!Make him hear us!MAKE HIM HEAR US!PC’S ARMYIt is JUSTICE that’s our battle and we will not be denied!He will hear us!HE WILL HEAR US!PARTY LEADAnd we say to those who scorn usFor the fact we chose to fightThat sometimes there are battlesWhere we must stop our plightAnd I could not put down my swordWhen JUSTICE was my right!Make him hear us!MAKE HIM HEAR US!PC’S ARMYOur path may lead to heaven or hellAnd God will tell us bestBut one thing they will never sayIs that I took my restFor I swear I’ll tell our storyTo my daughters and my sonsAnd I’ll tell them of the final dayWhen we called to the sun!PARTY LEADPROCLAIM it from your pulpit!With the sword and with the pen!Have every child raise his voieAnd then, my brothers, thenHave JUSTICE be demanded!By ten million righteous men!MAKE HIM HEAR US!WHEN THEY HEAR USI’LL BE HERE ONCE AGAIN!
>>36184264...Dammit, what was that movie with the little martial arts dinosaur? I think it translated as "I am delicous" but I can't find it. It seemed rather disney to me.
>>36184273Also, as for China's "land rejects the king" thing:The First Emperor of China was a powerful sorcerer, and made his own variation of the spell. It bound the spirits of peoples' ancestors to the land, so they could continue to watch and guide their children for generations - and if it is necessary, like it is in the setting, they can defend their territory from any invading outsiders, even once their land is conquered, until all the shrines binding them to the Earth are destroyed.
>>36183541>As Gaston reached his wife's bedside, the brown-haired woman's smile grew just a bit wider, even if it did seem that her eyes refused to focus. While man had not believed that his wife would need any of the drugs or potions that women so commonly took these days to assist in childbirth, those attending her evidently had, making the tender moment between parent and child somewhat sullied in the hunter's opinion. Still, his son had been born and what's more, Belle had survived the birth, making the entire ordeal an triumph.>Leaning in, Gaston kissed his wife's sweaty brow and laid a hand upon her head, smoothing her damp and tangled hair in a surprisingly affectionate gesture. Whispering words of congratulations and reassurance, the man reached out with his other hand to gently fold back the swaddling blanket wrapped around his firstborn, flinching, almost imperceptibly, as the infant let out another of those strange and awkward yowls, its mother not seeming at all disturbed by the sound.>The sight that met the hunter's gaze when he looked upon the child not only sent him stumbling back away from the bed, but was enough to chill the blood in his veins and rob him of his happy thoughts for the future. The baby, the... thing... in his wife's arms was inhuman, covered all over in brown and tawny hair dappled with white spots, its head crowned with a pair of stubby horns. Flicking one long ear in a way that made Gaston's stomach churn, the... beastling... mewled again, its mouth already full of tiny fangs.>"Oh... Gaston... darling...">Belle drawled, smiling wider as she shakily rewrapped the swaddling and drew the little abomination close against her chest.>"Meet your daughter... Clarisse..."
>>36184264About as many human settlements as there were on the island of Jurassic Park.
>>36184320What game were they playing?
>>36184441in others words,not many
>>36184455Nine mans Morris?
>>36184425NOBODY GETS THE LAST LAUGH LIKE BEAST, MOTHERFUCKER
>>36184455Nine Men's Morris. Gave a link to it's wikipedia article earlier if you don't know the rules.>>36184250Though if you're looking for TLDR: you and the other player each have 9 stones. You put them on the board. Every time you get your stones 3 in a row (a 'mill'), you remove one of your opponent's stones. You win when the opponent only has 2 stones, or he can't make any moves.
>>36184483>>36184493....Wait, shit, that's a game? Okay, rightSorry, english's not my first langauge. I didn't know that game, I assumed it was a reference to a tale or something
>>36184500It's actually one of the most widespread, ancient and long going games of the world. Ovid wrote about it was a game a man and a woman could fall in love over, and a variant of it is recognized as a sport in South Africa today.
So much fluff to catch up on. I best get reading.
>>36184548Yeah, I looked it up and recognized the board design. I have never actually played it or met someone who did, but I've seen the board around many times.I like the scene, by the way. Reminds me a bit of the "Alexander cutting the knot" thing
>>36184165This is good. Really, really good. Just as good as the first installment. You're getting me to care for these characters and understand them, one and all. I can see them coming together and being the team they need to be to achieve their goals. If you continue writing, I will most definitely continue reading.
How many do we have interested in playtesting the game then? I need 3-5 players for a playtest soon (As in, today. Probably in ~4-5 hours.) for a game set in the Shadowlands.
>>36185115I'm certain we have at least 5 players willing to join a playtest. Myself being one.
>>36185115How would we play?
>>36184839I only learned of the game because of a chance encounter with it at the local museum. I have to say, it's simple and easy to pick up while still being a legitimate contest of intellect; between that and how flexible you could be with the board and the game pieces, no wonder it became so popular.As to the Gordian knot....it's half of what I was going for. Cutting the Gordian knot is taking a complex intellectual problem and finding a simple solution for it by going outside the usual parameters used to solve it. Arthur went outside the parameters, but his solution was still complex and intellectual.
>>36185254Roll20. I'm setting up a campaign thingy or whatever they're called.
>>36185115I'm up for it, althoigh I'm not sure if I'll be able to. Even if I'm not, I hope the game goes well.I made Simmersap, Bryce and Erick the mystic-hunter, I'd probably ens up using Bryce if I manage to go there.How libg do you suppose it'd last?
I'm off to a party in a little bit but I'll be back in two hours. Maybe one and a half, three at the very most.
>>36185284Shit man, fuck my phone, look at those typos...
>>36185115Shadowlands? I think I could fit Bruce in with a little creative brainstorming. How would we be playing?
>>36185284One session. Possibly more if I have any inspiration, but I'm not good enough to jury-rig a long campaign.>>36185315Via roll20. I'll probably be using voice chat but I'll accept text communication if you want.
>>36185267>>36185315Well I can certainly do roll20. Give us the link when it's ready.
>>36185327I'm checking in via phone so I wouldn't able to participate, though I really would like to Nob. Would it be possible to post transcripts here afterward, provided everyone playing agrees?
>>36184425>>36183541>>36183249>>36183053That's it. I've got to change "The Hunt" to reflect the Beast being Belle's daughter Clarisse.
>>36185363I'd be cool with that. Also, to other prospective players: I've got a Sensible Guy, what's everyone else playing?
>>36185115Dammit Nob, why must you be so cruel to us Britfags?
I'd like to talk about Tiers for a moment.Aside from more Strikes and higher Skills / Attributes caps, should On-a-Roll and Hero give some other bonuses?We talked about more dice to roll and an automatic increase in Traits and Power Bonuses. Can we do something with it?Also, there's the fact that Players don't move together to the next Tier, since they are not going to fulfill their goals at the same time unless their goals are pretty much the same.I suggest Player Characters should move up to the next Tier when all of them have fulfilled one of their Goals.This way we would avoid disparities in the group and arguments about which Player's Goals the party should deal with first. It'd also give them a mechanical reason to share the spotlight with each other, because dealing with the other Players' Goals is how you increase in power.Opinions?
Do we still have Madagascar being Dinosaur Island?Can we add Sharptooth as a potential, "surprise" boss? I find that fucker way more terrifying than the roided Carnotaurs from Dinosaur.
>>36186031>Aside from more Strikes and higher Skills / Attributes caps, should On-a-Roll and Hero give some other bonuses?I'm not good with crunch so I don't know. Maybe>I suggest Player Characters should move up to the next Tier when all of them have fulfilled one of their Goals.This is very nice, I'd like this. it'd help the party work together
>>36186031These are all really good points and are things we need to be speaking about now. I'm puzzling over the issue of characters not leveling at once, but I'm not sure that this might be so big an issue. I do believe though that leveling ought to have bonuses associated with them. More powerful traits and powers ought to be seriously considered.
>>36185767You and your damned harry potter and Tolkien and warhammer and damned wizards!No, but I'll run a game earlier in the day for people who can't make it later this week -- maybe Tues/Thurs. No repeat customers!>>36186031>players moving up in a tier when all of them fulfill a goalPlayers would need to coordinate their goals well then so that all of them are at least somewhat accomplish able without too much world travel. Other than that; I like it. Throw it in!>players adding diceGive them 5d6 drop lowest 2 when they increase to On-A-Roll, but no additional bonus when they reach Hero tier; They'll be getting Heroic Traits/Powers when they reach that tier, no reason to add more dice. Of course, if we don't like that, give them 4d6 drop lowest on all their stats to represent their widening fields of expertise. >>36185712If you don't mind, I'll have everyone post up their character sheets on the Roll20 page so I can correct potential errors before we start.Without much ado, here's the 'join game' page! I'll be taking up to five players, but I'll run it again later this week if you can't make it the first time. Don't despair! https://app.roll20.net/join/585117/yX0x1w
>>36186088>>36186105You know what, when you put it that way, I do like the idea in that it helps the party work as a cohesive group and encourages jolly cooperation.
>>36186105Consider that Player's wouldn't be levelling up one or two sessions away from each other: it could take up to several campaign for the last player to level up.
>>36186115>Players would need to coordinate their goals well then so that all of them are at least somewhat accomplish able without too much world travel. Other than that; I like it. Throw it in!If we linked them to each other, the power players would be the first ones to want to work together and choose Goals that go along nicely, because otherwise they would stunt their own precious improvements.
>>36186158>If we linked them to each other, the power players would be the first ones to want to work together and choose Goals that go along nicely, because otherwise they would stunt their own precious improvements.Perfect. Beautiful! GLORIOUS! I've never been sold on a rule so fast in my life!
>>36186158I wasn't saying I disagreed with it, just pointing out the consequences of it.
>>36186115Then I'll think about what bonuses we can give them and whip out some alternative options, so that we can all just see which one works best.>>36186201No, no, I get it, I was just making it clear that I had thought about that and that, in my mind, that's a feature, not a bug.>>36186189Thanks man, I'm personally very proud of the idea.
>>36186247>Then I'll think about what bonuses we can give them and whip out some alternative options, so that we can all just see which one works best.Thanks, I like how you work
>>36186322No, no, thanks to you for giving me your opinion, man.Personally, I just like making crunch. The more crunch the better, really.
>>36186366What do you think about potentially crunching out some NPC allies for the players in different campaigns? I think that so far only Mulan the Undying has been crunched and fluffed, and it might be nice to have others.Or do you reckon this might be something best done on a GM by GM basis?
Came in, dropped off my cupcakes, ate, talked for twenty minutes, hooked up for thirty and left.>>36186158I support this rule greatly.I'll be posting my stuff on the roll20 page now.
>>36186414I did Jack Sparrow too, but his fluff is sort of... in flux.
Since I have no idea what I'm doing, is this any good?Name: NaachaRole: Nimble GuyCountry of Origin: PridelandsSize: MediumSpecies: Crocodilian---Attributes---Robustness: 10/12 Agility: 9/12Intelligence: 6/12Sensibility: 8/12Charisma: 9/12Will: 3---Skills---Acrobatics: 4Athletics: 3Brawl: 3Prevent Harm: 2Stealth: 4Deceive: 2Linguistics: 3 (Human, Big Cat, Bird)Travel: 3Insight: 3---Traits---- Rivergoer- Tick Tock- All-Natural Armor- Crocodile Tears- Death Roll- One Jump Ahead---Powers---- Are You Scared?---Ideals---Always trust your friends - they deserve the benefit of the doubt.Forgiveness is earned, not asked.If you mess up, do whaever you can to make it right.---Goals---Zero: Save a town in need from bandits or other such threats.On-a-Roll: Defeat a magical creature to stop it from terrorizing the countryside.Hero: Do something heroic enough that he'll be known the whole world over.---Equipment---NoneBasically? Once upon a time, he had a best friend. He then mistook a lion attacking his parents for said friend, and the resulting confrontation had to be stopped by said friend's father. Realizing he'd almost killed one of the few folk who ever cared about him, even though his parents were alive after all, Naacha fled in shame and self-disgust. He's been trying to make it right ever since.(Yes, bonuses were factored in.)
>>36186434A nimble crocodile. How terrifying. That said, if he wore a clock he could make Hook do anything he wanted; so 10/10 would take on world adventures
>>36186434Problem: no one here memorized the Traits. We still need an explanation for each one of them, man.>>36186414I think we should totally make some sample characters like that. Of course they'd only be examples for future GMs, but that's still a noble Goal to pursue.
>>36186516Aw dang. Lemme go grab those, then.
>>36186434Needs another power, but it's great. Now get in here.>>36186115
>>36186115Hey, i am the guy who hosted a while back for the Hun campaign. Got room for a player?
>>36186482Hook would likely just run awat from him as fast as possible.
>>36186516I memorized the traits.because i wrote 80% of them>>36186434He's got, uh, a bit low Agility, so that should be his first priority. Good stats across the board. Good skill bonuses. May want to consider a rank in Endure as soon as possible. Needs another power. (class, i think). >>36186549We have room for 2 more players at the moment.>>36186366It's... weird to see another person who actually likes making crunch. Welcome aboard! I'll be here to relentlessly examine everything you do!
>>36186586I might be able to come, but I can't be sure. It hurts, but I won't risk letting you guys down by having to leave early so I'll hold off on my game urge for now.
>>36186532http://pastebin.com/0Jk19dqPAlright, fixed it up (or I tried, rather).
Oh boy, playtesting. Time to actually figure out what we could improve.
>>36186586Alright, I'll try to whip up a character. A little unfamiliar with d20 though, but i'll try my best
>>36186428We could just say everything about him is just rumors and noone properly knows what's going on with him. Is he helping the world? Is he working with the pirates? Is he in the custody of the EITC? Is he just off somewhere on a beach with a pint of rum and a few cheap whores? Who knows but the GM?
>>36186586>It's... weird to see another person who actually likes making crunch. Welcome aboard! I'll be here to relentlessly examine everything you do!Nob, it's still me. It's always me.I came up with the Attributes and the Skills Lists, the Will Points, the Speed, the Rounds and Turns, the Basic Roles, the idea of Powers, the Weapons, Shields and Armor mechanics and the Lessons.We did the Target Numbers together? We argued about progressions? The mooks's mechanics?Nob, I'm hurt right now.
>>36186731Sverd the Skald! Write us a song about the lost love between Nob and ROBUSTNESS! man!
>>36186768More ROBUST than ever, man.
>>36186731Curse my short memory!You want to help with figuring out some Villain Powers/Traits then?also I remember coming up with the roles as well, but maybe thats just poor memory
>>36186809Give me a little bit...
>Party so far>Half Sioux Messenger>Nile Crocodile>Swedish Prince>All in Iowa, of all placesAnd here I thought I was the one who was going to have to come up with a creative reason as to why I'm there.
I've always been a fluff guy. I've tried to contribute crunch concepts as best I can understand them, but, others here have far better brains for numbers than I. It's been great working with you folks.
>>36186815I'm more of a general rules kind of guy, so making Traits would be a problem.But hey, I'd love to work out some Villains rules. How many Strikes, how many Moves, maybe a Tiers based system of Power Levels for them.Boy, we can still do a lot here!>also I remember coming up with the roles as well, but maybe thats just poor memoryPoor memories all right. Carefull Nob, or I'll cut you.With magic.
>>36184264Dinosaur Island is effectively Skull Island.
>>36186881>Poor memories all right. Carefull Nob, or I'll cut you.>With magic.You monster! You know he gets flashbacks!
>>36186869To be fair, it's kind of easy to explain why Sverd is anywhere for campaigns because at the beginning of them he's looking for allies and strength to get back to Arrendelle and un-fuck it up. Going to the New World, which has a billion fire-focused people and things and is a massive desert, is an explainable move.
>>36186869We can throw in my my Aborigine hunter from last thread as well.Burnum PurunguAustralian AboriginalMedium Human Sensible Guy-Attributes-Robustness: 7/12Agility: 8/12Intelligence: 8/12Sensibility: 10/12Charm: 7/12-Skills-Acrobatics: 3Athletics: 3Melee: 3Ranged: 3Prevent Harm: 3Endure: 3Stealth: 3Travel: 4Insight 4 (1 from Sensible Guy)Traits:-Line-Singer: +4 to travel in previously-visited areas-Big Game Hunter-Paint With All The Colours of The WindPowers:-Shaman-Pierce the TruthGoals-Bag me a big'un-Bag me a beast-king-Bag me a god!Ideals-Pay your respects-Always be wary-Dreams are worth more than you think
>>36186881Generally, Villains should be more powerful than a Hero of the same tier but able to be defeated with no deaths by a party of roughly 3 people of the same tier in open conflict. Of course, this can tilt back and forth depending on the type of threat they pose -- an ogre is going to be more of a personal threat than a vicious minister, after all. They should have varying amounts of Strikes but usually more than Three, and access to unique and frankly unbalanced Powers and Traits.>Poor memories all right. Carefull Nob, or I'll cut you.>With magic.HISSBut really, it doesn't matter who came up with what, merely that it was done. The only real contributor to this project is Anonymous.
>>36187006Sounds good, but what about Villains who reached a Tier beyond Hero? Because some of them are in a League all of their own.How many Tiers should the Villains be able to climb?And should the Kings follow the same rules of the generic villains, once the party is fighting them face to face?
>>36187067>And should the Kings follow the same rules of the generic villains, once the party is fighting them face to face?To anwer my own question, I think they should:they get more Powers, bigger effects and immunities, but I think they should still follow the same basic rules than everyone else.So Strikes, Prevent Harm and so on.
>>36187067Villains have a number of tiers undetermined so far. Let's say, oh, five. Barely-a-threat, for gang leaders, etc. Minor threats; Menace a town, maybe. Threats; a small area. Major threats are rulers over sections of a kingdom, usually administrators rather than personal badasses but occasionally magical as well. Kings are the final tier which follow the general rules but have impossibly strong powers to represent how most of them keep their subordinates down via displays of force. Things like Facilier being able to mimic any power in the game by spending a Will point, Shan Yu being literally immortal unless cut down by Mulan, etc.
>>36187109Except for Cherry Bomb and other forces of nature like Firebird who can't reasonably be defeated by just stabbing or talking
>>36187142Well, yes, of course. Forces of Natures and Ideals are totally their own thing.You don't punch fire and you sure as Hell don't hurst his feelings.>>36187140Good, good.Well, have a nice game and let us know how it went. In these days I'll whip out something for Tiers and Villains.
>>36187196>ou don't punch fire and you sure as Hell don't hurst his feelings.But now I wanna try!
Room for one last person in the first playtest.
>>36187248"you're just a big, ugly bird! Nobody likes you!"
>>36187263I would if I wasn't planning on sleeping soon.
And we have 5 players. Anyone else who wants to join is free to, but they'll be spectating. I'll be re-running this playtest on tuesday or thursday earlier in the day for those who want to try it out.
>>36188295Well, apparently we don't. We're back down to 4 again. Guess I'll just shut up till we actually start.
>>36188295>>36188412Uh, my bad. I'm new to the system so I jumped out to try and sort out all the information and shit. I also didn't know exactly that my real name would appear so I went to try and change it as quick as possible. I'd appreciate if we could keep that out of the light
>>36188295Aww, pity I missed the sign up. And I'll be otherwise occupied tuesday.Anyway, I made stats for everyone else in sleepy hollow. Review and editing for balance would be appreciated.Also looking for ways to pump up Benedictus with out making him too OP. I've got hopes to make him a recurring threat to the PCs.Brom BonesROBUSTNESS!: 8Agility: 7Intelligence: 7Sensibility: 6Charm: 9Athletics 3Brawl 4Deceit 3Intimidation 4Persuasion 4Music 3This is your Mayor speaking: +4 to Intimidation and Persuasion when talking to residents who accept your authority.Lovingly Protective: +5 to Athletics, Brawl, Melee, Ranged, and Prevent Harm; if it’s to help Fiancee/Spouse/Significant OtherCrooner: +4 bonus to Music when Character is singing.Katarina Von TrappROBUSTNESS!: 6Agility: 7Intelligence: 8Sensibility: 8Charm: 8Academics 4Deceit 3Intimidation 4Linguistics 3Persuasion 4Science 3All Will Be Well: +3 when trying to calm down or convince a frightened characterThis man is obviously a Charlatan: +2 on Insight checks against people who are obviously villains.Golden Hearted Saint: +4 to any checks made to directly help the poor, the misfortunate and/or the downtrodden.Wrapped Around Your Finger: +5 to Deceit, Intimidation, and Persuasion; when used against Fiancee/Spouse/Significant Other.NakomaROBUSTNESS!: 7Agility: 8Intelligence: 8Sensibility: 9Charm: 7Craft 3Insight 4Linguistics 3Occult 3Stealth 4Travel 4Paint With All The Colors of The Wind: +4 to survival-based Travel so long as you always show the natural world its due respect.Think You Hide from Me?: +2 to Insight when attempting to detect people in Stealth.Grandmother Willow’s Wisdom: +4 to Academics, Insight, and Occult while in a forest.(cont)
We got 1 Strong, 1 Sensible, and 2 Nimble, so I think we'd appreciate a Smart or a Charismatic. At least, we'd appreciate them more than any other characters.
>>36188460Dr. Solomon GravesROBUSTNESS!: 5Agility: 7Intelligence: 9Sensibility: 8Charm: 6Academics 4Insight 3Intimidation 3Occult 4Science 4Nerdy McNerdson: +2 Academics, -2 AthleticsTrust Me, I’m A Doctor: +2 on Science, Occult, and Academics if you can somehow explain how your character knows this particular subject.I’m a Professional: +2 to Science, and +4 to Intimidate & Persuade when speaking about scientific terms.Sometimes, read the books: +3 to Occult when having access to written material, +4 if it’s an entire library.CopperROBUSTNESS!: 8Agility: 6Intelligence: 7Sensibility: 9Charm: 9Size: Small, but oldSTRIKES: 2Brawl 3Endure 4Insight 4Lingustics 3 (4)Persuade 3Travel 4Natural Weapons: Bite, +2 to Brawl rolls.Trait:Loyalty- +2 on attack rolls against an enemy that has Struck an ally.Domesticated: 1 rank of Linguistics and +2 to Persuasion rollsThe Ladies Love Him: +4 on Persuade to any female character.Superior Sniffer: +4 on Travel (Tracking) and Insight (Search)BittercressROBUSTNESS!: 5Agility: 10Intelligence: 9Sensibility: 7Charm: 8Size: TinySTRIKES: 2Acrobatics 3Deceit 4Occult 4Ranged 3Stealth 4Prevent Harm 3POWERFlight: Creature can flyInvisibility: Can turn invisible. An insight check at 20 is needed to see the blur.Summon Mulchers: Once a day, summon leaf constructs. 1.5x the number of players.MulchersAll attributes are 7+7 to strikeDefense 18EQUIPMENTBlowgun: Ranged weapon to shoot slightly poisoned rose thorns. +1 ranged(cont)
>>36188453>>36188412>>36188295Also, since I am not sure of how long a session takes and how much time I still have....I could still join, but I do have to be somewhere tomorrow and it is nearing midnight here. Can't be going to bed at three in the morningHow long do you suppose it'll last?
>>36188483Brother BenedictusROBUSTNESS!: 7Agility: 7Intelligence: 8Sensibility: 8Charm: 10STRIKES: 3Academics 3Intimidation 4Melee 3Music 3Persuasion 5Prevent Harm 3Don't You Disrespect Me, Little Man!: +3 to Intimidate if the character has taken a Social strike in this Situation.Chivalry: +3 to all social skills so long as you follow the warrior's code of your own culture.No Time For Panic!: +2 to resist FearPOWERMob Ruler: For every 5 ‘followers’ the character has, they get +1 to their social skillsAngelic Voice: One a day can make a music roll at +5Equipment:‘Sanctified’ Longsword: +1 to CombatOne bottle of Holy Fire: Thrown weapon. Characters that are set on fire suffer 1 strike every round unless they put it out.Danny DuCroisROBUSTNESS!: 10Agility: 8Intelligence: 6Sensibility: 7Charm: 7STRIKES: 2Brothers in Arms: +1 bonus to combat rolls for every character in the party that uses the same type of weapon or comes from the same homelandBull Charge: +2 to Brawl when charging into combat.It Was A Big Rock: Improvised weaponry, such as a tree branch, gives a +1 in combat instead of nothingBrawl 4Endure 3Intimidation 3Melee 4Travel 3Prevent Harm 4POWERSkin like an Alligator: +3 to Prevent Harm.Denny DucroisROBUSTNESS!: 8Agility: 10Intelligence: 6Sensibility: 7Charm: 7STRIKES: 2Acrobatics 4Athletics 3Ranged 3Legerdemain 4Stealth 4Prevent Harm 3Brothers in Arms: +1 bonus to combat rolls for every character in the party that uses the same type of weapon or comes from the same homelandWait. Did He Just Steal My Wallet?: +2 to sleight of hand rolls when stealing things. One Jump Ahead: +2 to Athletics and Acrobatics when fleeing from authority or more than three pursuersPOWERLegs Like a Frog: +6 to Acrobatics, can make 7’ vertical jumps at will.EQUIPMENTSlingshot and metal shot +1 to Ranged(cont)
>>36188460Still open m8. We have one slot left.
>>36188509Donny DucroisROBUSTNESS!: 6Agility: 7Intelligence: 10Sensibility: 7Charm: 8STRIKES: 2Deceit 5Insight 3Lingustics 3Persuasion 4Prevent Harm 3Travel 3Trusssssssssst Me: +2 bonus on Deceive rolls if there target actively distrusts the speakerI Happen To Be A Scientismist Myself: +2 to Bluff and Disguise checks when attempting to pass yourself off as an academic, scientist, or other man of knowledge.Not In The Face!: +4 to Prevent Harm if Character doesn’t engage in combat this round.POWERFriendly Face: Can change appearance once a day to appear as, and sound like, someone the character has seen. This illusion does not cause strikes. Also, it is purely visual and audial. Physical contact will expose the illusion, and an Insight roll will show that the person’s shadow is different. This is considered Voodoo Magic, powered by the Friends.(Copper is the Hound from the Fox and the Hound, race bonuses have been applied)>>36188511Where and how do I sign up?
>>36188453>>36188460Well, we have one more spot. Fight to the death!But really, don't worry about it. >>36188460>>36188483>>36188509Brom Bones and Katarina Von Trapp have very strong Traits. Might want to lower those bonuses by 1. For Benedictus: If he's a villain, he's fine. If he's an ally you may want to lower his stats. Increase the Melee bonus on his Longsword by 1 to +2.>>36188492Two, maybe three hours? I've got 4 scenes planned. We don't know how fast combat is yet.
>>36188550https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/585117/villains-victorious-testJoin campaign, post a character sheet in the thread. If you have a smart or charismatic guy, it'd be appreciated.
>>36188552Well, if that's the case I can do it, it should end still on a reasonable time.However, Ghost, if you want to take it feel free. Heavens know my characters aren't as creative as the others so it'll probably be more fun. I'd love to be a spectator this time around howeverI'd like to join the game on tuesday though, so I'll keep an eye out for that. And I will fight to the death whoever ties with me then. You get a free pass because I'm new with roll20, ghost.I'd bust ya
>>36188610>And I will fight to the death whoever ties with me then. You get a free pass because I'm new with roll20, ghost.>I'd bust yaI'm new too. I'm having trouble finding the listing.
I'm gonna join in as a spectator, if in the end there's still a missing place I'll join. Sefton reporting here
>>36188610It's a playtest, not an actual game. Though it will most certainly be fun, we should keep in mind that the main point is to figure out what we can improve with the game through first-hand experience.
>>36188703Got it. Working on a Charismatic character now.A lyre player from the Mirror Kingdom.
Is there some sort of open chat? I'm just being a spectator so I'm not sure if I should click Join Game
>>36188807Sadly, that's not how Roll20 works. Feel free to Join the game, just don't expect to do much other than listen or ask the occasional question.>>36188746Agreed, partially. No reason to not have fun, but I'm trying to squeeze in as many mechanics as possible.
>>36188873Alright, thanks. It's possible I'll have to leave in the middle, just watching out in order to not fuck it up for everybody
Alright, we're set. Just gotta wait for Ghost to post his character and everyone to pop in.
>>36188958We don't start for another hour, mind. I've got prep work to do.
>>36188987Right, right. So, what's the chances that we'll see injun chiefs, travelling over long distances and/or survival checks? Because I look back over my character sheet and realize that I really geared Bruce towards campaigns involving that stuff.
>>36189162... Probably very little. You might get one or two survival checks depending on how things play out, but at the moment everything's happening in Davenport.
>>36189252I forget, is that Slim or Shadowlands?
>>36189162>>36189252Clearly the only option is to go out, get the injuns, and come back with an army like Gandalf to fuck up the shadow demons
>>36189297Both, technically. I think Iowa is in the area on the map which is both under Slim and Facilier's jurisdiction. It's part of the shadowlands, but nearly lawless.
I still think it's hilarious our stats spell out RACISW
>>36188958Posted! Should I put it up here so I can get some balance feedback?
On a totally unrelated note, is it just me who feels that ranged weapons are a little overpowered in comparison to melee/brawl? Or a lot overpowered? The comparative bonuses are not only huge, but can be shot from distance away so you're not exposed to a counterattack. Since it's Disney, I think we should forgo realism a bit and buff melee and brawl a bit and/or nerf ranged weapons.
>>36189467People generally move fast enough given that you can double your speed by spending an action that melee is a relatively effective strategy, unless you're fighting at extreme range.Generally, I'd say most ranged weapons provide only +1 bonuses instead of the usual +2 that melee weapons get. Brawl is purposely underpowered because nobody can really take your fists away from you, whereas weapons are difficult to bring into security areas.At least, that's my reasoning.
>>36189395>WEAKNESS>Mark of the Mirror Kingdom: Hannah has a large port wine birthmark that covers most of the left half of her face and some of her right. Persuasion rolls are at -4.You know, I don't think we ever tried to implement any weaknesses.Lullaby looks fine. Rally Cry....doesn't really seem beneficial. As it stands, TN20 gets you +1, TN25 gets you +2, TN30 gets you +3....yeah, it's beneficial at these low levels, but the scaling is shit.
>>36189567Plus, the 1d4chan rules for Music already give +2 to a designated roll on TN20. If it's +1 additionally that's more balanced.
>>36189605Right, missed that bit. Okay, so...Rally Cry is a stacked bonus on top of what's already used?So with Rally Cry it becomes TN10 grants +1, TN20 grants +3, TN25 grants +4, and TN30 grants +5 to a roll. Also, it's just anyone who can hear Hannah, other people don't need to join in.
>>36189674Oh, TN 15 should be the +2 bonus.
Is the ETA for the playtest still at 3 hours?
>>3618989120 minutes now. It was 3 hours 2 hours and 40 minutes ago. The average runtime should be between two and three hours depending how long combat takes.
Jeremiah, join the game. We're starting soon and discussing OOC specifics.
This is really interesting to follow. I look forward to seeing any transcripts that might surface and seeing how everything shakes down afterward.
>>36184425>It turns out that the complications from birthing a beastling with fur, claws and horns leaves Belle unable to conceive or bear any more children.>Gaston forever after blames Clarisse for "killing his sons" and never stops hunting her for this imagined crime, either by himself or through proxies.
>>36191069Can't he just find another mother for them?
>>36191069God, that's dark. Not that it's a bad thing.However, is Belle the kind of girl who would have sex with a man (or beast) that she did not love? Remember, Belle realizing she loved Adam is what made him human again.We do know that she has a fur fetish though, as evidenced from the final line she speaks of the movie that was cut in the last stages of development. "You should grow a beard."
>>36191201He could, but that would be a logical and rational thing to do, and just look at what he went through to get Belle back from the Beast in the first place. He's had his sights set on this girl for a long, long while, and may have had the idea of his perfect lineage mothered by Belle in his head for just as long.>>36191202I'm not sure about how this love triangle might have come about, but the idea of Gaston hunting his beastling stepdaughter for something she had absolutely no control over really is dark, but like you said, not in a bad way.
>>36191202Perhaps she wasn't Beast's kid at all. There might have been some lingering effect of the curse on Belle, due to spending so much time around Beast, thus causing her children to be Beastlings.
>>36191481Then she's really Gaston's daughter, which is even fucking darker.
>>36191535Exactly. We're blacker than Facilier right now.
>>36191535Shit, horribly dark.
>>36191564Well Facilier was only Nigga at darkest.
>>36191535Whether she was the Beast's daughter conceived before Gaston killed him or Gaston's daughter cursed by the same gypsy spell, what do you suppose her early life was like? She would either have been sent far, far away to try and hide or forget about her, or was kept under the stairs like an awful family secret while Gaston tried desperately for the sons he wanted.
>>36191645You want us to make this even darker?She's got the Inquistion after her too. Gaston knew Belle was a virgin before he made Clarisse and decided to ask Frollo how it happened, since he had no idea. Frollo concluded there was only one possibility: Clarisse is the Antichrist.So now we have a young girl/beast hybrid, whose father wants her dead and whose mother is brainwashed, who thinks she's a bastard, and who everyone thinks is the Spawn of Satan. We have entered Ultra-Gigganigga levels of blackness.>>36191694Gaston hid her under the stairs, I think. She lived in the cellar, and he fed her the scraps from his meals when he had finished eating. Mentioning her name was not allowed. When he realised Belle was infertile, he tried to kill her out of a need for revenge but she escaped.
>>36191728Sheer darkness / 10, would cry for again.
>>36191728While I think that may be taking things just a touch too far, I really like the idea of Clarisse as a character that's being hunted on all sides by Gaston as being the Beast that killed his imaginary sons and the Inquisition for simply being a Beast.If we go off the story of Clarisse's birth that was written earlier, presuming Belle was drugged deeply enough Gaston could have convinced her that the baby did not survive, and could have locked her in the old wine cellars or what have you beneath the stairs while he continued to try for the real family he felt he deserved.
>>36191893Or we can go on a much 'happier' alternative where he begrudgingly keeps Clarisse and tries to be a caring father while keeping her hidden from Frollo's Inquisition and his buddies at the Huntsman Club.Highly unlikely to happen, but hey, options.
>>36192189>Not him raising her and then saying "I am such a good father, that I can teach even my beast kid how to hunt! My offspring is the best of the best, be it human or beasts!">No one fathers like gaston
>>36192189It flies in the face of Gaston's character. The whole point of his existing in the movie was to be a vain and superficial person.
>>36192304That's why I said 'highly unlikely'. There's only so much grimdark my poor heart can take sometimes.
>>36192229>Teaches Clarisse all he knows about hunting, tracking, and trapping, raising her like a family secret in a cramped cellar room.>Feeds her scraps, table leavings and raw game while keeping Belle from realizing that her daughter is still alive.>Sees this as the perfect way to get back at the Beast and Belle's betrayal while attempting to have some sort of dysfunctional father-daughter relationship with Clarisse.
>>36191069Gaston isn't exactly victorious if he doesn't the girl and at least one strapping son.
>>36192444You have a point there. In this situation we'd have to narrow our definition of victory to "killing the beast and getting the girl" rather than "getting everything he wanted.">Clarisse escapes from her basement dungeon and tries to explore town for the first time before realizing that everyone is not only different than her but is afraid of her. >She is chased by through the countryside by the Inquisition or hunters with torches and rifles. >She tries to make heads or tails of what a book is supposed to be.>She rediscovers the remains of her father's castle and enchanted servants.>Clarisse tries to find and free her elderly grandfather, wherever he's been hidden away.
Okay. Beast's daughter and a ton of songs.Just got home from work, gimme a few minutes to catalogue everything.
>>36192762See, this is why I preferred the version where she does bear him sons, and they are indeed "strapping", but where they may or may not be "blessed" by Frollo to serve him as super-soldiers at some point in the future. Gives Gaston a proper "win" while embroiling him in the political drama of Europe.
>>36192891Nice to see you back Plane! No need to go crazy! I was just about to archive the thread a little ahead of schedule, so please don't rush!
I realize we want some kind of werebear not beast creature but is Belle banging the Beast just because or some gypsy cursing her just for the heck of it honestly make any sense? I mean beast like creatures are cool but let's not overlook plot holes just because we want a character in. How long was Belle locked up in beasts castle? Was she there long enough for stockholm syndrome to kick in?
>>36192977This is a good point. Gaston isn't really a major player in France, so this way at least he'll get some recognition.Plus, having Belle as his brainwashed stepford wife seems like a perfect winning condition having been met.
>>36192977>>36193049Super-soldier Gaston sons is the best outcome for Gaston considering he is a member of the hunters guild, traveling often to bag big game. His sons being bred for Frollo's purposes fit perfectly since gaston would never notice.
>>36192304Just change the way he looks at it: he doesn't see Clarisse as the worst possible daughter, he sees her as the best possible dog.>Who's a good girl? WHO'S A GOOD GIRL?>... I am.>YOU ARE!>I AM! (wags her tail)>Get the birdie, girl, go on get it!>(She comes back with Zazu in her teeth), wagging her tail like crazyYeah, naw, I tried, but I'm not into it. StepfordBelle and Super-Soldier sons for my table.
>>36192995Disney Villains Victorious XXV has been archived in the normal place! Please vote it up if you'd like to!http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorious
>>36192995>>36193161Thanks for the archive man. Catalogue's been updated too.I've got a small piece I developed at work too, rewrote the lyrics of Gaston's song for the Hunters, poking fun at Gaston being unwilling to hunt the She-Beast.
>>36193157I'll admit that I laughed.>>36193107>>36193011>>36192977It brings up the interesting question of where the threshold is for a Villain being considered to be victorious in this setting. Does it mean that the villain has achieved their every goal? That certain "lose conditions" in the original movies were met somehow? Is it just Rule of Cool at work? It's an interesting question.
>>36193011It doesn't really make sense. In the film, Belle realizing she loves the Beast results in his transformation into a human, so if their relationship evolved that far and further in this universe, why was he still a Beast?And why does the curse extend to their daughter? The curse was placed on the Beast to teach him a lesson, but the child is innocent. And we can safely assume that Clarisse is loved at least by her mother, right? So why doesn't that love undo the curse? What conditions would have to be met to undo her curse?I know you guys like the she-beast idea, but frankly it's not very good: it just doesn't fit very well.
We're probably gonna be raising difficulty of most acts because our playtesting session so far is revealing that beating mooks and making many checks is frighteningly easy. Probably TN22-ish.
>>36193449It's harder to suceed on a singing check than on beating some folks to a pulpThat ain't disney
>>36193157>>36193107>>36193049Not to try and push the idea too hard, but what about combining the two: this Clarisse is the eldest child, the product of Belle's fling with the Beast, and the big secret kept under the stairs while Stepford Belle mothers a slew more strapping young boys as is Gaston's dream?>>36193011If I recall correctly, she was in the castle for quite a while as I believe we saw the seasons change several times over the course of the movie. Any sexual encounter would, necessarily, have to occur just before Gaston attacked and killed the Beast to make the timeframe of Belle's pregnancy work.
>>36193502Yeah, particularly combat. Stacking bonuses had us making 35+ on decent rolls. As zeroes.
Compromise timeBeast births Clarisse during her captivity in the castle, a result of both Beast and Belle being drugged by the animate furniture therein as a hail-mary effort to lift the curse. ("She'll never love him, but sacreblu, with enough absinthe she will FUCK him, and that might just be enough!") It didn't work, a child was conceived, and Clarisse was born sometime later. The creature was raised and cared for my the furniture people after the Beast was slain by Gaston.StepfordBelle doesn't remember anything about her captivity, so doesn't remember Clarisse (though perhaps the two meeting might trigger some confusing maternal feelings?) She has borne Gaston his three (soon to be four) sons under the influence of Frollo, as has been discussed.Thoughts?
>>36193518>Any sexual encounter would, necessarily, have to occur just before Gaston attacked and killed the Beast to make the timeframe of Belle's pregnancy work.As discussed >>36193627We don't need Clarisse to be born after she's "rescued".
>>36193627You've boggled my mind, Sir.And with that, have to bed down for the evening. As always it's been a pleasure working with all of you, and I look forward to doing so in the future!
>>36193627>Beast births ClarisseBelle obviously births Clarisse, minor error, ignore.
>>36193627>("She'll never love him, but sacreblu, with enough absinthe she will FUCK him, and that might just be enough!")"Oh ho ho ho ho! I know a particularly musical crab who would be happy to set the mood!"
>>36193732Alright, I'm glad I didn't leave immediately because this gave me a big laugh.>>36193685Hadn't even considered the possibility of her being born while Belle is still in the Beast's castle. That might actually work out better for a family secret + legitimate male heirs type of dynamic.Really going to sleep now. Good night, morning or day to you folks!
>>36193366>And why does the curse extend to their daughter?Everybody knows fey curses are STDs and children can be born with the side effects.
>>36193215CLAYTONMy, it perturbs me to see you, Gaston,Resting on laurels of old.You haven't hunted in eons, Gaston,Your trophy wall's bristling with mold.That news of the She-Beast affects you, good man,In ways we can only surmise.But I trust that this speech redirects you, good man,You have got to pursue a new prize!No one's proud as Gaston,No one's loud as Gaston,No one germinates fear in a crowd like Gaston,You still brag of your raid on the castle,Combatting the fiend in its lair,And you claim you prevailed with no hassle,But since then you've just sat on your fat derriere.ALL HUNTERSNo one toasts like Gaston,No one boasts like Gaston,CLAYTONNo one wastes the good grace of his hosts like Gaston.GASTONI've had plenty of all your insinuating.ALL HUNTERSWhy don't you try, then, Gaston?Bag five fey beasts!Bag twelve hellspawn!CLAYTONIt seems you've gone soft, so you'd best prove us wrong!ALL HUNTERSNo one hunts like Gaston,Picks off runts like Gaston,CLAYTONNo one loses in contests to Muntz like Gaston.Though he's hailed as a provincial savior-GASTONA position I've earned through my deeds!CLAYTONHe's shown nothing but selfish behavior.GASTONThat's wrong!I'm just what the common man desperately needs!ALL HUNTERSNo one aims like Gaston,Targets game like Gaston,CLAYTONNo one tries to avoid any blame like Gaston.GASTONI am certain you slobs are exaggerating.ALL HUNTERSWhy don't you try, then, Gaston?GASTONWhen I was at home, I protected the townFrom all manner of threats, great or small.But now I seek thrills from behemoths world 'roundAnd the She-Beast can't matter at all!ALL HUNTERSNo one's brash as Gaston,Makes a splash like Gaston,CLAYTONNo one's ego's at risk of a crash like Gaston.GASTONI'm above all your meaningless flagellating.ALL HUNTERSWhy don't you try?Gaston!
>>36193901And the reprise.GASTONMcLeach, I'm afraid I've been thinking.MCLEACHAbout time you started.GASTONI know.But I've heard of a monster in Scotland,Who can slaughter his prey with one blow.Now pursuit of that She-Beast is lackingIn the face of the mighty Mor'du.Though the power and speed of the bear is immense,My superior wit will pull through!If I... (whisper)CLAYTONYes?GASTONThen we... (whisper)CLAYTONNo! Would he...GASTON(whisper) Guess!CLAYTONNow I get it!GASTON & CLAYTONLet's go!No one dares like Gaston,GASTONSets up snares like Gaston,CLAYTONNo one tangles with mystical bears like Gaston!GASTONAnd the beast I will soon be decapitating!ALL HUNTERSMy what a guy!Gaston!
>>36193901>>36193927Some-someone wrote a song that wasn't me?I LOVE ITI LOVE YOU
>>36193901>>36193927You. You're the best.
>>36193927>>36193901I heard it all perfectly in my headYOU DA MAN
>>36193732PercussionStringsWindsBooze There you see himLurking dere atop de roofHe might act a bit aloofBut there's something about himIt might be de boozeyou got nutin to loseYou wanna fuck de beastYes, you want himDon't look at him, you'll spoil de moodPossible he wants you tooAnd not just for dinnerPour another one backIs it taking effect?Go on and fuck de beastSing with me nowSha-la-la-la-la-laMy oh myYou think that you might dieYou ain't gonna fuck de beastSha-la-la-la-la-laAin't that sadIt won't be so badIf you just fuck de beastNow's your momentNow that you are tripping ballsGirl ignore de spinning wallsThe drugs make it betterHe don't maul your faceAnd he won't maul your faceIf you just fuck de beastSha-la-la-la-la-laDon’t be scaredAlthough his fangs are baredGo on and fuck de beastSha-la-la-la-la-laDon’t stop nowWe could just tie you downYou wanna fuck de beastSha-la-la-la-la-laFloat alongLook at his massive dongThe dong say fuck de beastSha-la-la-la-la-laMusic playI think you might be gayWhy won't you fuck de beast? You’ve got to fuck de beastWhy don’t you fuck de beastYou gotta fuck de beastGo on and fuck de beast
>>36193901>>36193927>>36194102You people are heroes.
>>36194102This is a great night indeed. Well done!
>>36193927>GASTON>McLeach, I'm afraid I've been thinking.>MCLEACH>About time you started.Keked heartily. Excellent work.
>>36193833>Hadn't even considered the possibility of her being born while Belle is still in the Beast's castle. That might actually work out better for a family secret + legitimate male heirs type of dynamic.Gaston can still hunt the "She-Beast" though he probably just assumes it's another of the same sort of creature, and has never had reason to suspect she has any relation to Belle. Maybe on one encounter he gets a good look at her eyes, and her eyes look just like Belle's and it bothers him, but he just files it away in the "things to ignore because they don't fit my worldview" file along with the idea that Belle doesn't really love him and that it is a bit strange that his three-year-old is oddly good at throwing knives at things.
>>36193901>>36193927You have captivated me with this.I will not rest until I play a game of Disney Villains Victorious, I have decided. Not right now, but as soon as I am able.
>>36194318Nonsense! Knive-throwing is a finely honed instinct of Gaston's bloodline.
>>36194756So is self-delusion a willpower subskill in this system? Maybe it helps to prevent sanity loss upon being confronted by uncomfortable truths.
>>36194810Sounds like it could make for a good trait or power.
>>36194810Oh lord, self-delusion should totally be a skill just for humor's sake.I ROLL FOR SELF-DELUSION
>>36194879CRITICAL FAILURE, YOU REALIZE ALL OF REALITY IS MERELY AN ILLUSION AND ATTAIN NIRVANA!
>>36194810> sanity meternot in this game please
>>36194810Count it as a trait or something. +2 to Endure against social checks when you can convince yourself otherwise.
>>36194879>I ROLL FOR SELF-DELUSIONSelf-delusion isn't a skill>DAMN I'M GOOD
Martin av Sverdkyldige is a true and honorable knight, capable and fit of looking after himself and all the people of the world. Truly honorable.
>>36195062Truly, the world's most heroic faceplant.
>>36195062Roll20 seems to tend toward the low end most of the time.
>>361950621/1296, would laugh at.
>>36195062Critical failures tend to be a staple of Disney protagonists these days at least once per movie.
>>36195184Second Try's the Charm: By spending a Will Point, you gain a +5 to an action you have already tried and failed once this session.
>>36195184>Sorcerer's Apprentice>Use Magic Object>Rolls a 1>Fuck
>>36195184>Aladdin>Animal Handling: "Don't touch anything Apu">Rolls a 1>Fuck
>>36195184>Snow White>Sense Motive: "Apple Dearie?">Rolls a 1>Fuck
>>36195184>Mulan>Disguise>Rolls a 1>Fuck>...>Oh, they're idiots.
>>36195184>Brave>Occult knowledge>Rolls a 1>Fuck
>Little Mermaid>Bargain>Rolls a 1>...
>Pinocchio>Deceit>Rolls a 20>Fuck
>Sleeping Beauty>sees a sharp pointy whatchamacallit>Will resist to not touch it>rolls a 1>FUCK
>>36195184>Atlantis>Craft: Screenplay>Rolls a 1>Eh, they'll still buy tickets
>>3619533310/10>Ursula>Withstand>Rolls a 1>Boat'd
>>36195384Yes, except it was actually:>Journey to the Centre of the Earth>Craft: Screenplay>Rolls a 1>You wrote "Atlantis" by instead>Eh
>Hunchback of Notre Dame>Frollo attacks Esmeralda!>1>Rocks fall, you die.
>>36195402Interesting story: I went to school for animation and one of my professors was an extremely disgruntled Disney employee who worked at the studio during that era. According to him the change from Journey to the Center of the Earth to Atlantis was literally the result of a night of binge drinking by the executives.Also, you know all the weird sex shit that showing up in Disney movies during that era? That was only the stuff that wasn't found in time. There was a ton of vulgar shit that got caught at varying stages of the animation process. Apparently early tests were full of tits popping out of dresses in the background and shit like that.
>>36195468Not>Hunchback of Notre Dame>Frollo attacks Esmerelda>1>The Paladin Falls
>Tarzan>Clayton rolls climb to catch himself on the vines as he falls>Rolls a 20>Err...
>>36195480>extremely disgruntled Disney employeeI'm not aware of any other kind
>>36195184>Beauty and the Beast>Knowledge Occult: "Gib food and shelter plox">rolls a 1>ROAR
>>36195489... no, you did that all wrong.You get an F. Clearly no effort.
>The Great Mouse Detective>Don't Call Your Ruthless Boss The One Name He Can't Stand To Be Called>Rolls a 1 >FELICIA'ED
>>36195547>Beauty and the Beast>Seduce>Rolls a 1>ASSISTANCE MON!>>>36194102>Fuckin 20>Boom, she ridin de knot now, yeaaaaaah
>>36195833Fuckin da beast!Fuckin da beast!Wit human guys they shoot and go!Beast stays de night and loves you slow!Knot stops him runninDat keeps you cumminFuckin da beast!
>>36194318That would work really well too.Will a new thread be started tonight, or have we reached the point in this project that continuous threads are unnecessary?
>>36195935>Sebastian is still alive in this world, though he's taken his role of matchmaker a bit too far, using his mood-setting abilities to arrange all manner of abominable couplings for the highest bidder.
>>36195959I don't know, but this thread has been archived in any case. Anyone still browsing should vote it up, and if need be I'll start another thread before this one falls off the board completely.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorious
>>36196171Should have a new thread, we're on page 7 and at bump limit.
>>36196245Roger that, Nob. Anything in the OP in need of updating?
>>36196279Well, we're going to have a game transcript in 20 but other than that not really.
>>36196333Alright. I'll create a new thread and post the link back here. Thanks for the transcript!
>>36196383I'm happy to do it!>>36196360NEW THREAD UP:>>36196425
>>36193366I think the curse does that because it was intended to spite Beast even after he turns human. His children would always be monsters, just to remind him. Of course, they didn't anticipate that somebody who fell in love with the Beast would end up living with somebody else.
>>36193366This is why her being raised by Belle works better. Brainwashed mother incapable of truly loving her + Fucking Gaston as a father = Curse not getting broken. Oh, and since you're currently in the Grand Diocese or whatever it's called, everyone else hates you as well.