Welcome to the XVI installment of "Disney Villains Victorious."Disney Villains Victorious is a new /tg/ homebrew project based on the idea of a world, not entirely unlike our own, in which all the villains from all the Disney animated feature films were not defeated at the ends of their movies but were instead victorious, completing their goals in part or in whole.It is a world in which Ursula rules the seas, defied only by the uncatchable Pirate Lords, the cutthroat merchants of the East India Trading Company and the might of Atlantis and its magitech-toting mercenaries. It is a world where the grasslands and jungles and forests are prowled not only by fearsome primal beasts like Shere Kahn and Scar but also by the ruthless, tireless hunters that stalk them. It is a world where Europe has been divvied up between evil sorcerous monarchs like Maleficent, the Horned King, Grimhilde and Jafar, mad, inquisitorial clergymen like Frollo, and Dark Gods like Hades and Chernobog.It is not, however, a world completely devoid of courage, heroism or hope. Around the world, the PCs' characters and their allies plot and plan, fight and strive and win their own victories against the villains that would rule them. The time to fight and to be free is now.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorioushttp://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_villains_victoriousKing/Land/Rule: http://pastebin.com/p6UzetYhClass roles: http://pastebin.com/fj58NSYMXP: http://pastebin.com/61Je2agNBeast Species: http://pastebin.com/48SeDy6D
>>36111444Wasn't Kay a villain? Should he be Victorious?
OTHER PASTEBINS:http://pastebin.com/8RRbwMQT (setting traits)http://pastebin.com/MZwvGsyX (Generic traits)http://pastebin.com/8NiWAHjd (concept characters)
I have returned from my multiple hour departure. I shall begin some writing on the Shadowlands, and Land of the Fae.First up, The Shadowlands."I can tell you much of these lands, traveler. That's why your friend paid so dearly for my services. Now, now, no need to be so bitter. A deal's a deal down here, my boy. You know what they say, an eye for a guide. ...They don't? Well, someone oughtta start.""No matter. These are the Shadowlands. Home of...Let's call him Mister Black, shall we? No need to to speakin' names or titles where anyone can hear, you follow? And trust me, he can hear damn near everywhere.""You may have noticed the sun's setting sooner than you think, eh? That poor thing. I hear it shines different in every Kingdom. A King's Will trumps a little star, don't it? Here, we don't get much sun. And it spends most of 'em low on the sky, letting the shadows strrreeeeeetttcchhh theyselves all along the waters. Twilight takes hours down here""That's the way Mister Black likes. He likes his shadows, deep, often, and long. They say they can peel off the ground and fly secrets to his ears. Some folks laugh, till they see it happen. Watch what you say 'round here. If the Big Man hears somethin' he don't like, you may wake up to find the shadows from the corners of your room dragging you 'afore him.""T'other reason is deals. Pacts. Bargains. Everyone loves 'em down here. And I mean everyone. Men, women, kids, dogs, hell, I know trees that'll make a deal if you've got the right...bark? heh heh, Just a little joke, miboy. Nothin' foolin'. Spirits 'round here been tipped to the wheelin' and dealin'.""Now, if you stick to the edges, it ain't so bad. Mostly just bayous, swamps, jungles, and so on. It'll be wet, hot, and oppressive, and you'll deal with skeeters, gators, and your odd swamp-cat. And a witch or two.""Down south, though, DEEP in the heart, is the Necropolis. That's where HE live. Mister Black. The Big Man. The High Roller.(cont)
>>36111489"You're from the Pontifex's Lands, yeah? All Dour stone, sneering Gargoyles, and holier-than-thou Priests? So you're probably expectin' the Necropolis to be Somber. Empty Mausoleums, grim reflection, all that Cath-Oh-Lick Guilty mix, yeah? Well then, you're in for a shock.""See, the Necropolis means just that 'City of The Dead.' And down here, dead ain't as quiet as it is elsewhere. Zombi walk the streets, shadow-men flit here and there, and everything's an explosion of noise, color, and light. Because the quiet of the grave ain't comfortable, and shadows need lights to go a creepin'. ""And in this explosion, you got games of every shape and size, gambles that would blow your mind, and food, food food. If you've never been to the Shadowlands, you probably don't know what good food tastes like.""Spirits, Men, Shadows, and "Friends" all trying to one-up one another. It's a dog-eat-dog world down there. I hear, just rumors, you mind, that there's a game the Big Man throws, hisself, once a year. And some of the other bigwigs come over to have a spin and blow off some steam. Supposedly, if you can get on that table, you can win things you couldn't even dream of. 'Course, Losing wouldn't be your smartest move.""Hmm? Oh, yeah, hold up a minute, gotta bleed a little for this willow here. What? I told you I knew a tree or two to cut deals with. Now, where do you all want to go? The Big City, huh? I kinda figured.""One warning, once you're there. If you meet Mister Black, best to play along. He was a Proud man, back before he was a King. He don't like disrespect. You bow, scrape, smile, and butter him up some, you'll probably walk out alive. Or at least, mobilely deceased. And if he offer you a deal? Say no. As polite as you can. Trust me, no one wins betting against the Shadowman."
>>36111489Oh neat, someone was already posting these over. I just copied them to paste.Thanks, stranger!
>>36111462He can probably hotseat them, but maybe he's worked with the Cauldron long enough to make ones that can lead - or give all the Cauldron-born enough intelligence to be capable soldiers with initiative, whilst still being slavishly loyal to him. I do want to make the Cauldron-Born feel a cut above your regular human mook - more like the Terminator made out of bone than your average spoopy skellington.
>>36111489>>36111512Wanted to make sure we didn't loss this. The second part was posted after the archive
>>36111515I was so worried when you posted the second part after the archive. This is quality stuff.
Regarding going for the social or violent routes in an encounter, it should behoove parties to be specialists in or capable of at least one or two of each type of problem-solving method.Some enemies will be completely unaffected by physical or magical attacks, and would really need to be talked down, such as ghosts. Inversely, creatures or constructs incapable of understanding communication techniques or feeling empathy (unless they can be tricked, in which case empathy is not a requirement) will need to be handled with brute force.
>>36111463Well Arthur grew up and became King enough to have a cult of personality spring up around him posthumously, which means there's a big gap between Sword in the Stone and now. During that time, Kay grew up and came to admire his adopted brother. He became a mighty Knight and one of Arthur's most loyal friends. Blah blah fanwank fanwank.
>>36111529>>36111546No problem! I'm just happy people liked it enough to handle for me!>>36111520A fair point, and the hot-seating is a solid option I hadn't though of. There's just something of the idea of an army of undead terminators being lead by a polite but merciless risen Knight that appeals to me.>"We're sorry, the crops were bad, we'll have the tithe next season!">"I understand. And I apologize. But examples must be made. We will burn 2 houses, and kill 5 men. You may choose. If you have not chosen in an hour, we will. If you revolt, we will burn your village down, and kill everyone.">A Gallic shrug from the knight as the village headman runs off to choose, his army standing at attention. >The knight almost hoped they would revolt. The Cauldron Born were ready for slaughter.>Always ready.
currently tracking down the king/land/rule that I remember seeing for Shere Khan and Elsa
You've all done good work so far but now it's time to get our heads in the game. I speak of course about "High School Musical" what are our plans? How should Zac Efron defeat Chernabog?
>>36111689They probably just bully blacksmiths. None of the undead need any food, and the Gwythaints probably just nick cattle.
>The New Round Table>Rumours persist of an underground movement throughout Europe built on the old ideals of Chivalry and the legend of King Arthur. The Knights of the Round Table are long dead and turned into skulking Cauldronborn under the thrall of the Horned King. However, their legend persists and a new Round Table has been forged. Although only a small band, their allies are many and they are ever watchful of potential candidates for their solemn order. >The Knights reformed under the watchful eye of the Sorcerer, Yen Sid. A former apprentice of Merlin, the stern wizard remembers his master's fall at the hands of the villainous Madame Mim. Yen Sid went into hiding when the Villains made their move but now, as things begin to settle down, he has travelled the land and recruited five brave heroes to become the new Knights of the Round Table.>Sir Kay, Arthur's adoptive brother, fell into deep depression upon the death of his King. He roamed Europe, drinking heavily, until he was recruited by Yen Sid. A master huntsman, Kay has a keen eye for his environment and believes that he alone can find and restore King Arthur to power. (Sensibility)>Sir Timothy appears to many to be a lowly mouse but his form hides a great courage and a keen creative mind. Timothy grew up in a circus and learnt many of the skills that make him a formidable Knight from the various acts. His special skill lies in his agility, aided by his small but flexible frame. Timothy has no personal ties to King Arthur but he truly believes in the ideals of the man and will fight with his fellow Knights to restore them. (Agility)>Sir Eugene is a former thief who found redemption when he resisted the rule of Queen Grimhilde. Forced to flee his homelands, he was eventually recruited by Yen Sid. Eugene is posses a natural charisma and is capable of charming almost anyone he meets. Few can resist his smoulder. He is keen to restore King Arthur and prove that he has truly turned his life around. (Charm)
>>36111718The power of rock.
>>36111732>Sir Philip is the Prince of a now defunct realm, swallowed up by Malificent's vast tangle of thorny vines. He is a natural soldier and dedicated himself to the memory of King Arthur, a man whose court he remembers visiting in his youth. Impressed with the King's benevolent rule, Philip hopes to restore this bastion of the good to a suffering world. His fighting ability is great and few can stand against him in a fight. (ROBUST!)>Lady Jane is the final member of the new table. Her fighting skills were honed during a disastrous trip to Africa which saw her father perish and their guide abandon her to fight against the indigenous wildlife and reach safety. An intelligent young woman, Jane is inquisitive and well aware of the historical nature of Arthur’s story. She desires his return as much as she desires revenge on the hunter that abandoned her in Africa and cost her father his life. Her true power lies in her intellect but she possesses a savage fighting style that tends to surprise her enemies. (Intelligence)Thoughts on this new Camelot spin?
>>36111732>implying Jane isn't one of Queen La's sexslaves
>>36111708>King: FrostElsa has supposedly near-infinite power over ice and snow. It's uncertain what the limits of her powers are, or if they even exist. What is known is that she has amazing powers of creation and destruction. Back when she was calmer, she was capable of constructing castles in a matter of minutes. Nowadays, though, her powers are only used for destruction. Her powers go far beyond conjuring blizzards and ice bolts, though. She has the ability to imbue sentience, or at least an imitation of sentience, to mere snowmen or ice sculptures, and supposedly has an immunity to the cold herself, and has built an army of Snow Golems, or Snowlems, to serve as her minions. As well as that, she can resurrect her victims as what the locals call frostwights - frozen corpses animated by the lingering magic in the ice and cold that killed them. If she can be calmed down, and her grief can be dealt with, she could be a powerful ally to the players. Otherwise, the Ice Queen of Arendelle will show them no mercy.>LandPerhaps the land of Arendelle itself is the most actively dangerous thing any hero must face if they seek the Ice Queen. The land is perpetually covered in several feet of snow. Water can only be found by melting the ice, and in some areas of magical cold, creating a fire or a source of heat is impossible. There's also the terrible ice fog, air so cold it freezes inside your lungs. To breath in this terrible white mist is to die a horrible death, choking on frost. That's not even starting on the wildlife. Only the most ferocious and vicious of predators can survive in the Ice Wastes, and they're hungry for flesh.
>>36111718With a catchy song-and-dance number. How else?
>>36111767>RuleElsa doesn't exactly rule her people as much as she tolerates their presence. Her Snowlems are direct extensions of her own will, and her grief causes them to do nothing but destroy, to vent her frustration and grief. The person really in charge of the land is Prince Hans of the Southern Isles. At the time of Elsa's descent into madness, the Prince was in Arendelle to celebrate her coronation. Him and his retinue of guards from the Southern Isles have built up a fortress around the ruins of Old Arendelle, and allow people to come to him for protection in exchange for swearing their fealty. He believes that Elsa cannot be redeemed, and has to be killed. Or at least, that's what he says. In actuality, Hans just wants power. He intends to kill Elsa and become the new King of Arendelle. Originally, he had intended to marry Elsa's sister Anna, but she sacrificed herself to save the Queen from him once his plans went wrong. Hans' betrayal is the reason Elsa is the way she is. If she was to find out that he had been killed, it might help her to calm her down, to know justice had been served.
>>36111776>Churning Boot nods appreciatively, pulls a guitar out of the mountain and BRINGS THE METAL
>>36111802https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyDwIUA1Co8>cherry bomb encounter for Charming party
>>36111767The frostweight stuff sounds a bit strange and out of place. I'd keep it to just snowlems and statues.
>>36111708not exactly KLR but it would be good source material for Shere Khan>In Shere Khan's jungle, there is no noise. Not the sound of monkeys, chirping of birds or the sound of paws; every animal is stuck in the darkest dread. The party will always feel as if they are being watched by something that could kill them at that very moment, and every noise they make sounds, to them, as if they had just blasted a warhorn and called....it. What is it? You don't know, and you want to find out even less. If you don't find a way to keep your courage up, you might yourself fall to the paralyzing fear.I'm including this because there should be mention of the Kaa/Shere Khan/Bagheera clusterfuck that is India>While Sher Khan may rule most of the jungle, there are parts even he avoids. Places that seem uncannily peaceful. Beautiful. You could see yourself staying here a long time. Come to think of it, how long HAVE you been sitting here? You're not sure, but you know you should get moving. There are tales of this place you could hardly believe, tales of a colossal serpent whose gaze can dominate the wills of men... (Kaa's lands, time spent here induces a gradually escalating drug-like state of confusion, lethargy, and euphoria. Stay too long without s way to keep yourself in the present and you may just stay forever).
>>36111743>>36111776>>36111802>Chernabog challenges Zac Efron to a fiddling contest
>>36111767>>36111782It's well written and very good, but feels just slightly off the mark and makes Queen Elsa seem more antagonistic than we've generally discussed. That might just be my opinion though.
>>36111728Maybe it's secretly an inter-locked system. Like, a village without any sources of metals makes food for the others, so their tithe is food based, so that the Cauldron-Born can dump it on Iron town, and make them forge more swords.Alternatively, for a touch of humor:>"Gryga!">"Hail, Wylthar. What do you need?">"I had a thought. About the tithe.">"Yes?">"Why do we take food?">"It's part of the tithe.">"Yes, but we don't eat. None of us. The Horned King, Barrow-Wights, Cauldron-Born. Only the Gwythaints eat, and they're carnivores. So why do we demand wheat?">"...Until this moment, I never thought about it. Maybe he does magic stuff with it?">"Wheat magic?">"Fair enough. Maybe it's because we used to eat, and the Horned King hasn't noticed he's never hungry?">"So we're just collecting them in case one day he does get peckish?">'Works for me."
>>36111861I'm just copying it from thread 6 or whenever it was, we can adjust it, but it's been done
>>36111871>My god-liege, why do we keep a massive pile of wheat?>Fuck peasants.
>>36111871>>36111896It works perfectly because, as I said like 5 threads ago, the Horned Kings does not want things, he wants to take things away from other people.
>>36111974He's a dick that way, I guess.
So, what still needs doing?
>>36111766>The lady Jane has never spoken of her time alone in the depths of the jungle. The only thing in the world she seems to fear now seems to be cats, as she is known to become flustered in an unladylike manner whenever one is in her presence and quickly excuses herself if the creature attempts to rub up against her or sit in her lap.
>>36112101A test game?To my knowledge, a rough outline of The Headless Horseman adventure module exists in the archives. It's a good place for level 1 adventurers who don't exactly want to start off as mooks to a villain.Also these things according to 1d4chan>A list of solid traits for general use and for specific realms.>A better description of what the attributes do>An actual XP advancement system>Clarification on what the Roles grant by taking them.>A description of what mechanically each of the three Tiers (Novice, Veteran, Hero) actually does per class.>The attribute and skill distinction between the >Human and Beast characters.>For the non-rulesy among us: We need clarification on each individual Realm>We need origins for the players: what countries would provide suitable origins?>A working world map, up to date and formatted to the top right. Please help me. >--Nobody Important (talk) 02:06, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
>>36112160Worst Disney crossover ship.Worst.Kill yourself.
I hate to leave at a slow point but I've not been able to contribute since the last thread and I've fallen asleep on my keyboard. Come tomorrow morning I'll reread this thread to see what needs doing and try to do what I can.Good night everyone. Keep fighting the good fight!
>>36112160Christ, i think some body told /co/ about usI do hope thats not the case
>>36112184Yeah, I should get around to editing that.What we need now:A list of solid traits for general use and for specific realms. A description of what mechanically each of the three Tiers (Novice, Veteran, Hero) actually does per class.The attribute and skill distinction between the Human and Beast characters.For the non-rulesy among us: We need clarification on each individual RealmWe need origins for the players: what countries would provide suitable origins?I'm currently working on Beast statistics.
>>36112292>what countries would provide suitable origins?In terms of 'safety' for staring characters, that would be most of the Americas. Virgina is an good starting place for characters and adventures.Other origin friendly countries:>Atlantis>Slim's West>Agrabah>Huntsman's AustraliaYou generally want to avoid making characters from high conflict areas (like the clusterfucks of India, Europe or Japan) without explaining how they got out.
>>36112584>leaving the clusterfucks of India, Europe or Japan>starting in easymodeCasuals....
>>36112584South America is also a good starting point if you want a soft start.
>>36112292>Not Zero-to-Hero tiersStep it up, Nob senpai
>>36112184>An actual XP advancement systemI'm going to take inspiration from (rip off) Dungeon Crawl Classics on this one.>0 XPVery easy encounter with little to no strikes suffered or resources lost for the heros. This kind of encounter no longer challenges a group and clearly does not advance their skill level>1 XPAn encounter with strikes suffered and/or resources expended, but relatively easy nonetheless. The typical "easy encounter falls into this bracket.>2 XPA typical encounter. Heroes suffer strikes and were required to utilize resources to avoid defeat. No fatalities or significant losses. Alternatively, a significant act of heroism/altruism required>3 XPA difficult encounter, even with good tactics. Significant strikes suffered and one or more heroes may be defeated in battle (unconscious or slain). Alternatively, impressive acts of heroism/altruism involved.>4 XPAn extremely difficult encounter, one the heroes barely survive. Multiple character defeats and likely a fatality, significant character strikes, and/or incredible acts of heroism/altruism required.
>>36112629>playing Pathfinder in Golarion setting>"lol look at this casual not starting off at the ass-end of the World Wound!"
>>36112723>playing caster edition 1.75
Are we running a test game anytime soon? Some anons seem to be wanting toI'd love to give it a go, but I haven't played irl, much less through the internet. How would it work?
>>36112656Of course, what a foolish mistake. Fixed in the 1d4chan page.>>36112679XP in this is based on following one of a character's three Ideals. How you spend the "lessons" you earn is detailed in a pastebin in the OP.>>36112788If we run a test game, I'd love to either participate or read the logs for feedback on balance.
>>36112679We've got an XP system. They're called "lessons.' 1d4chan's out of date.http://pastebin.com/61Je2agN
>>36112817Dude, you absolutely have to play.You've been kicking anon's sorry ass to get shit done and crunching up A LOT of stuff, you deserve it
>>36112788>>36112817>>36112859Anyone can run a test game. Just do it.Organizing the schedules of specific anons to have them all meet at the same time for even just a few hours has a tiny corner of Hell dedicated to it, yes, but if you keep it fun and keep it Disney, people will enjoy it.
Sir James the Grim, Black Knight of the Round Table>King Arthur and his companions travelled on a road where the cauldron mist was thin, and the Cauldronborn did not so quickly rise again. They came to a chokepoint between two great stones, only to find themselves blocked by a man head and shoulders above most....at least, it seemed a man. None of him could be seen beneath the black plate armor....in any case, he held a great black sword with its tip in the soil, and was surrounded by broken skeletons. Arthur was not sure what to make of this....was this man a sign he should turn back, or just another challenge to overcome? But he did not have much time to ponder this, for two of the skeletons began to reform into Cauldronborn in front of the man, and third by his foot. Arthur and his companions reached for their weapons. "I should have known our luck would not hold.">But this Black Knight seemed to lack the fear of the Cauldronborn so deeply ingrained in most men. He also seemed quite practiced at disposing of them, stomping the skull of the Cauldronborn by his boots to pieces. Then he swung his great blade up and brought it down upon one of the Cauldronborn, cleaving it asunder. The other Cauldronborn whirled upon him, and the two clashed blades a dozen times before the Cauldronborn's head was smote from its neck. Then the man assumed his previous position, and a deep voice rumbled from within the armor: "None shall pass, so sayeth the knight clad in sable, til his summons to the true king's round table.">"So you are the Black Knight Merlin spoke of....." Arthur murmured. "You've rehearsed that little poem quite a lot, haven't you?">"What else is there to do but fell the Cauldronborn?" the Black Knight said, still not moving.>"Yes, you seem to have done a lot of that as well." Arthur said, looking over the broken bones lying about. "What is your name?"
>>36112973>"Sir James the Grim." the Black Knight answered.>Arthur smirked. "Well, Sir James the Grim, consider this your summons.">Deep laughter rumbled from within the suit. "Look at the state of the land. The age of heroes is over; those who stood here before me did not receive their summons, nor will I. Or do you expect me to believe that you are the fabled King Arthur, and that is Excalibur at your waist?">Arthur stepped forward, his hand reaching for Excalibur. "I will prove it, if you do not believe it.">"DO NOT TRIFLE WITH ME, BOY!" the Black Knight sneered, raising his blade. But Arthur was faster, and smote him upon the head. His helmet shattered and he was thrown backwards by the force of the blow. And yet he still stood, if only leaning on his sword. Beneath the matted hair and untrimmed beard, his face displayed confusion more than pain. "How can this be? Not even the Cauldronborn strike a quarter so hard...." And then, as he gazed upon Excalibur's brilliant sheen, he realized the truth. "EXCALIBUR! You…you truly are King Arthur! I thought that all the old heroes were dead and Cauldronborn, that all the new ones would share their fate, that all hope was dead…...." The Black Knight dropped, kneeling before Arthur. "I see now that I was wrong. HAIL, KING ARTHUR!"Ideals:- Never surrender to fear.- Never let himself lose hope again.- Never abandon those by his side.Goals:- See the fall of the wicked Horned King.- See the day that Arthur is put upon his rightful throne.- Find love and friendship.
Well, I'm back. Big Hero 6 was pretty great.
>>36112973>>36113009And that's all I have right now. I gotta physically abuse the pillow. See you next time, when Arthur must outwit Sir Harold the Cunning, Green Knight of the Round Table.
Mid Tier Quest: Somebody wants a dinosaur from Madagascar delivered to them. Alive.>Who wants it?>Why do they want it?>What will they give you in exchange?
What happens when the Keyblade masters fail to seal the darkness?
>>36113331No such thing as kingdom hearts in this setting.
>>36111782I thought it was previously agreed that Hans had become a vassal of Grimhilde.
>>36113285Most villains could want a live dinosaur, for various reasons.>The Global Huntsment want it>They're setting up a game preserve to train new recruits in>President Rourke wants one>Why? For the National Zoo of course!>Sultan Jafar wants a live dinosaur, preferably carnivorous>Iago's been particularly irritating lately, he thinks watching it chase the loudmouthed parrot around the palace would be good for a laugh
>>36113285>Yzma>SCIENCE>Prototype dinosaur potion. One time use and lasts 1 session.
>>36113462He is.He has his own holdings though. Grimhilde and he can still communicate using the magic mirror.
>>36113473Other than bringing back the sun and getting rid of the crushing taxes and tolls in South America, I really can't find much motivation to overthrow Izma.She's just too goddamn fun.
>>36113510With an army of chimera dinosaur men, Yzma can finally conquer those sun-worshiping losers in Mexico.
>>36113553Dinosaur men v. Giant stone golems with the very confused Atlantean canal guards in the middle. Sounds like a hell of a fight to me.
Which has the higher power level?Power of Love or Power of Friendship?
Another villain scenario>Alameda: Well now, glad to see y' ain't afraid o' a little gamblin', spats. Fancy a little poker?>Facilier: Gamblin's a sucker's game, Slim. Let's have all the cards on the table for a change.Alameda splays out his deck, Facilier slides out a row of tarot cards.>A: What in tarnation's this mess s'posed to be?>F: It's exactly what you and I have been squabblin' over, we're playin' the same game with different decks. Take this'n, for example.Facilier selects the Wheel of Fortune.>F: Y'all think you've got a proud and fearless domain, dontcha Slim, everyone loves your little casinos and saloons, and that money comes pumpin' in. You're as friendly as a crocodile, smilin' while the birds pick his teeth, but y'all snap shut as soon as the pickin's get... Slim. Only difference 'tween you and I is that I let 'em keep bargainin' after the well runs dry.>A: And y'think this makes ye the better man? If things're so charitable over there, why're those Virginia boys so keen on armin' themselves against ye? Why do I got Casey Jones roundin' up any stragglers what make it past yer borders?Alameda picks 2 8's and 2 Aces.>A: Luck keeps my boys alive longer'n your fair deals do, doc. If'n ye got a point, ye'd best get to it on the double.>F: I hear you've been havin' a... a crisis of religion on your south border. Blood magic's a tough nut to crack, especially if you keep throwin' bodies at the problem.>A: I ain't cuttin' no deals with yer "friends," Doc. 'Specially since I been hearin' that the sun's been gettin' mighty high in the sky near yer borders lately. Seems like we got ourselves a mutual problem.>F: I'm not so much offerin' a deal so much as an... arrangement. There's been some new folks in the area, and they're not the usual brand of sinners we get in the quarter. They're a bit more... ROBUST... and I'm sure those folks'd have some objection to blood magic.>A: Well, well... ain't they just the suckers we been lookin' fer.
Okay, I sat down and watched the Tarzan TV series episodes that have Queen La in them.There's no doubt that she fits. King: La's origins are slightly murky. She will tell you that she was simply a girl who was raised by the Leopardmen and 'knows a few tricks.' The surviving tribals will say that she's an evil spirit that has been moving from host to host for generations. Others will look at the body of Queen La, and note her skin tone, eyes, and use of crystals and wonder if Opar was once a sister city to Atlantis. Whatever the truth is, La rules, and La is. She demands that any and all bow to her, and if she has a desire, then it WILL be fulfilled. She does not tolerate rejection, dissent, or failure. That said, she has very little interest as to what happens inside her kingdom, if it doesn't concern her.Land: The Lands of the Leopard could be considered to be the opposite of the Pridelands. Where the Pridelands are overhunted, the Leopard lands run wild with animals, most of them hostile to intruders and each other. Where there is bare earth in Scar's domain, La's realm has vegetation everywhere, and that too can be hostile. The one exception is the Great City of Opar. Where La lives, waited on by her army of Leopardmen. It is a great city of stone and bronze.Rule: La really won't notice if someone has entered into her realm. The one exception being Prideland Lions hunting for food, she views them as 'pests' and loves to turn them into the hunted. La respects strength, she'd actually be impressed if someone was able to fight through her deathtrap of a kingdom and get to Opar. More so if they have a reputation of defeating others that somehow reaches her. Such a person might receive a welcome to be part of her kingdom, her guard, or more. It would not end well if you refused. If she is angered, La will send her army of Leopardmen, and other beasts, after the offender. She's canny though, and people can discover themselves falling to 'accidents' as well.
Thought of a short little bit like my early speeches, thought I'd toss it out here."Many people have asked me why I still wear my uniform, rather than a suit. Well let me tell you, a suit is just another kind of uniform. Its the uniform of businessmen. When a man in a suit runs a country he treats it as a company; where the bottom line matters above all else.But President Rourke, I can hear you asking, doesn't that mean you look at Atlantis like an army? It's true, I do; because that is what Atlantis needs to be to survive. Whether you like our military stance or not the world is full of very real threats, and Ursula, who would see us destroyed if they had the chance. That is why I wear a uniform, because it tells the world that we are capable of defending ourselves and we're not afraid to do it."-Imperal President Lyle T. Rourke, weekly radio address to the Nation
>>36113740I never saw the TV series, but this seems very interesting.Since Sibor managed to kill Tarzan as a baby, Jane was never rescued from the monkey attack and probably died, leaving Clayton with very little resistance to his secret plan to poach the gorillas. Sure, it took him quite awhile to find them lacking Tarzan's direction, but he's a persistent man if nothing else.
>>36113767Rourke fireside chats, brilliant.
>>36113872I thought it was a good idea, even if I couldn't help but to stick a little jab at Ursula in there.
>>36113808Clayton bags his limit, and leaves to help found the EHC. La stays in Opar, and then notices that there are Prideland Lions and members of the Sultanate scouting around to Opar.They're all pathetic weaklings, and she's afraid of that weakness 'infecting' Opar. So she decides to force them out. She stops her land grab at the edges of the Pirdelands' blight and the Sultunate's settlements, as those lands have already been infected by weakness. Right now, she remains in Opar, making sure that those weaklings don't come into HER jungle and infect it. She also is hoping that one day someone with actual might walks into Opar.The relationship between La and Sabor is like the one between Grimhilde and Gothel. One respects the other, but it's clear who is queen, and who is not. La honors Sabor's strength by letting her have free reign in her kingdom, allowing her first kill, and sending her little messages when Prideland Lions cross into La's jungle. La knows that Sabor likes a good hunt.
>>36113699Setting the players up to be pawns, huh? I like it. Another!>>36113767Uh, Mr. President sir, I'd like to point out that you're the head of the armed forces and allowed to wear a uniform regardless.Aaanyway, some more Animals are done. I still need to do some Herbivore Dinosaurs, but what else? My list of backlog is starting to look a bit... empty.http://pastebin.com/ZNVPBJWjWe now have completed:CaninesBig and Small CatsPrimatesCrocodilesHorsesBearsInsectsBirdsSnakesCarnosaursElephantsI think that's it.Next up: Tier bonuses!
>>36114163I wrote the piece more as a Rourke Justifying his dictatorship one. Elected leaders usually wear civilian clothes after all, and there are people in Atlantis (Westerners, Shadowland refugees, Original Expeditioners) who would remember that from the days before their homelands were villain territory. I write Rourke's public speeches up as all about him cultivating this image of the modern day Cincinnatus, taking the reigns in these times of trouble to provide strong leadership before returning to a quiet life when peace comes again.
Here's a little concept for tier bonuses drawing on ideas from threads 4-5-6.When a character Mantles a tier, moving from Zero to On-a-roll to Hero, the character gains bonuses quite suddenly as if via offscreen training montage.Immediately, the character gains one more Trait, two more ranks of Skills, and one more Strike. Additionally, the caps on every attribute are pushed up by 2. (12->14->16). Skills can be increased by 1 more rank (4->5->6) and another Goal must be selected.Thoughts?
>>36114308I actually like the concept of training montages being a requirement to advance in tiers. It's so cheesy it must be done.Bonus points (figuratively speaking) if it involves a Brooklyn-accented mentor figure.
Aliens from Lilo&Stitch?
>>36114357Leave that for the space splatbook
>>36114357Space expansion pack. Much like Treasure Planet.In this setting, Stitch never escaped to Earth.Patience. We need to focus on the terrestrial for now.
>>36114346What about bonus points for coming up with the montage song? Or trying to insert a disney styled musical number into a situation for that matter?
>>36114163I can work on a little more fluff. My only exchanges besides that are the Facilier-Ursula one and the Hades response to the two of them. Who should be next...
>>36114308I like it, but maybe it should be:+ 1 strike+1 Trait OR +2 SkillsAll attribute caps go up by 2All skill caps go up by oneAdd One GoalAdd One Ideal
>>36111472Nobby, I still have my K/L/R for king louis if you will take it The map is stabilized and I've been writing papers all day. Pls I just want to contribute
>>36114357At the moment, Aliens from Lilo&Stitch are being saved for a future expansion.If you wanted though, I'd say you should represent them as Humans, but raise one attribute cap by 2 and drop another by 2.The following movies are currently not under discussion for the game due to being saved for future 'splats': Big Hero 6, Treasure Planet, Star Wars, Toy Story, and all non-disney movies save the Road to El Dorado.>>36114380Facilier to Roarke.Failing that, Hades has hilarious conversations with anyone. Perhaps Frollo, to his disgust? Or Malificent? Or Hades chatting amicably with the Horned King?>>36114400Lay it on me. I'll 'bin it.
>>36114376Making players come up with songs seems rather unfair. We can't all be musically-inclined, and actual songwriting requires a lot of trial and error.Song-singing should be largely abstracted requiring only a summary of what the song is about and a description of the tone the song is trying to deliver.
>>36114395Hm, I'm liking that better I must admit. Not sure if we should add another Ideal, as that means the player will likely gain Lessons faster, but the average GM won't allow something stupid like doubling up on Ideals. Sure, let's go with that for now.Still need a comprehensive list of Powers for backgrounds -- even ideas would be nice, we can balance them later.>>36114413Agreed. I'm rather poor when it comes to songwriting myself.
>>36114376It should be optional, but if the PCs come up with songs that fit the scenario, then they should get bonuses.Maybe +3 to rolls for a song that's played during a fight scene/touching speech/darkest momentAnd if it's a montage song to signify you going up in rank, then you get both the trait and the skill.
>>36114429>>36114445I think that, while abstraction should be possible, additional bonuses should be granted for actually singing (or at least rhyming.)
>>36114445ehhhhhhhhhhhThat really feels like punishing the unimaginative among your group. If you want to houserule it, fine, but let's try to be as fair as possible in the ruleset itself.>>36114451On Music tests, sure. On anything else: Please, don't.
>>36114458Yeah, obviously just on Music tests.
>>36114445I dislike giving bonuses for IRL creative songwriting ability.Should we give bonuses for IRL sword fighting ability as well? Fuck no. That's retarded.
>>36114480PLZ NOLET'S NOT GET INTO THIS ARGUMENTWE'RE DOING SO WELL
>>36114409Just a sec, I need to fish it out of the archives
>>36114458Songs in general should be houserule, since they're strictly optional, and a GM could say that a verse and a chorus qualify, while another GM says that it only counts if the whole table sings along.But the hard rule is that making up songs is encouraged, and worthy of bonuses.
>>36114409Here we are. It's a bit short, so if anyone wants to expand it, feel free>King Louie rules capriciously in the Land of Red Flower, at one moment, throwing wild and crazy parties for his inner circle of monkeys, the next burning down whole swathes of forest. He rules from a great ruined temple complex, where the Red Flower burns eternally on a massive stone lotus brazier.>King: Louis himself is extraordinary only in his insanity. He is stronger than any man, as orangutans are, but has no magical powers. He is willing to entertain the thought of bargains, and is distracted easily by music. Despite his Caliguline nature, he can be extremely manipulative. Often unwary visitors find themselves pledging their loyalty in the heat of the moment, which King Louie holds them to forever>Land: The Land of Red Flower is as treacherous as any other. Unlike in the Khanate, animals roam free, lawlessly even, and will help or attack travelers as hey wish. However, monkeys are always watching from the trees, and any hint of conspiracy will cause them to plant the red flower, and set ablaze whole swathes of jungle.>Rule: King Louie watches with great interest any newcomers into the forest. If he thinks that they could be a potential ally, or have something valuable to coerce from them, he will summon them to his palace and throws them lavish parties to charm them into submission. If, however, they are too powerful or even whisper sedition, he will use all his resources to flush them out and watch them burn.
>>36114480Creativity is kind of a roleplaying skill, though. Just as much as things like tactics, acting, statistics, and debating. Creativity also makes the game more fun for all people playing it. I feel like anything that increases fun should at least be given small incentives. Granting bonuses to rolls would probably get tedious, but particularly good verses should at least deserve some kind of "fate point".
>>36114502Then just write in that bit,, like how plenty of rulebooks suggest that a DM should reward good roleplaying. how they reward it, and what they require, should be up to them.Also, a Question: I see Christopher Robin listed on the pastebin, but not on the map. Has he been done away with, or am I just missing something?
>>36114562I believe he's under the hypnotic control of Kaa, who uses his imagination to mass-produce delicious prey animals.
>>36114529A bit of writefaggotry too, for inspiration>Governor Rothborn, I thought I ordered you to have Siam fortified months ago! Why, pray tell, are you back in my office with hat in hand and your tail between your legs?>Chairman, sir. I... we did as you ordered. We cut down the forest and began building forts. We had started unloading our stockpiles from the ships when our foraging parties started disappearing>Yes, and?>"Well, sir, we sent out an expedition to try and find them. Fifty men in total. They were ordered to sweep the forests... and. Well, sir, you see... only one returned. He spoke of... the king of the monkeys, sir.>Are you jesting me, Rothborn?>No, sir! I thought he had gone mad! He had gone mad! He came back dancing, crazed, hearing some sort of wild music. We put him in the hold on the ship while he told us what happened: a red ape with a court of monkeys. He said something about a great red flower.>Are you telling me that you ran away because of some ghost story told by a deranged man? Are you telling me that is why our holdings in Siam are currently in complete disarray!?>No sir. After some time, we all started hearing the music too... drums and bugles. Some of the new recruits, the boys from Hong Kong, they started dancing, just like the man from the expedition did. After days, the entire colony was in a mad frenzy. They had abandon their posts and then...>Yes? Come on, man, speak up!>The monkeys. Thousands of them They came from the jungle, holding firebrands. They set fire to everything. The walls, the barracks, even most of the ships. I could do nothing but watch in horror... the men were set ablaze, but they still danced, screaming in agony, and the monkeys began to hoot and holler, as if they were laughing at us and our misery. And then...>Yes? Yes what is it!?>The gunpowder hold, sir, they found the gunpowder hold.
>>36114529Into the 'bin it goes.>>36114502>>36114544>>36114562Sure. Let's suggest that you reward creativity (particularly in such a disney-esque mechanic as singing) with the restoration of a Will Point.Speaking of which, does anyone know what they actually DO? A lot of powers use one, and we know every hero has three, but what else do they do?
>>36114429What marks a Rank Up? A number of completed missions? A certain amount of Lessons?
>>36113669Can I get an answer to this?I believe both ought to have certain mechanical effects.
>>36114409Rourke: Step out of the corner, Mr. Facilier. You have exactly 45 seconds to explain yourself before your presence becomes a violation.Facilier: That's Doctor Facilier, Mr. President.R: We give doctorates for a lot of studies, but mumbo jumbo isn't one of them. 38 seconds.F: Why the rush? You're not in a hurry, are you, Commander? It's a long game that you've been playing against the sea.R: Because I'm a man who sees the value of things, Mr. Facilier. Time is valuable, but you have yet to prove so. 26 seconds.F: Time is valuable, true enough, but my Friends have told me of a few things which might be worth a bit more. For example, a secret or two that the ol' sea witch would be desperate not to have known.R: That buys you an extra 30 seconds, 45 if you put it in plain English.F: Well, simple it is then. You've been strivin' to keep your folks out of Davy Jones' locker, but they ain't his primary concern. There's a... woman that Ursula has her tentacles on. Filled to the top with powerful spells, and she means the world to that flyin' fish. I happen to know where she's kept, so if you were to send a small expedition down to fish her up, the ol' witch would have taken quite the blow, to say nothing of your new bargainin' chip against those sky pirates.R: And you stand to gain nothing, of course. What's the catch, Facilier? What do you want in return?F: Just bein' friendly, Mr. President, just bein' friendly.
>>36114618I vote that they work like Fate Points.You can use them for powers, or you can use them to re-roll failures. Also, you can use them for 'last gasp' actions.
>>36114632Completing one of your Goals.Which is why Goals need to be appropriately distant but still reachable at character creation.
>>36114637Power of Love is probably stronger, but it can't be used as frequently as the Power of Friendship.
I've just finished - care to let me know what you think?A Diamond in the Roughhttp://pastebin.com/mmz25PHb
>>36114651I like it, Facilier sounds like he's up to something even when it looks like he's just pitting two of his enemies against each other.
>>36114707That's delicious, I like the scene painting you've done.
>>36114765>>36114768Thank you both. I need to do some editing, but I'll make sure to re-upload a finalized version.
>>36114163Anyway, before I head to bed I'd like to know people's thoughts on the statted races and what I should stat next. Punchfaeries?
>>36114707I love it.
>>36114778I think I may expand the earlier Facilier - Ursula - Hades dialogue into a story like this, I dunno.
>>36114707I hope Frollo has some counter-strategy of his own.Wouldn't want the conflict to be over so soon.
>>36114835I love any Hades fluff.
>>36114847If Frollo is being manipulated by Chernobaloo like some have suggested, I doubt that the powers that be in Bald Mountain would just let the convenient little buffer that exists to periodically distract Hades with crusades to "reclaim the stolen souls of the pious" get taken down.I don't expect there to be direct actions, but Jafar asked for the Titans' aid in Italy. And if the titans are away then the demons of Bald Mountain might come out to play.
>>36114852Now that Hades has everything he ever wanted (besides more souls, of course), what's he got Megara doing?
>>36114847I bet that Maleficent gives her own aid, she probably dislikes Jafar and has no love for Hades. Frollo is easy for her to dupe, and she can rule as she sees fit. Hades and Jafar could...complicate things.Not to mention that, if need be, Chernabog can extend His influence to keep the world balanced in misery.
>>36114877He could have out playing Helen of Troy. Trying to manipulate leaders into war so that they send souls to him more quickly.
>>36114903Meg's easily 9/10+, but attractive enough to go to war over?
>>36114914Perhaps not the best example as she could use more than just looks, and would probably have to.Frollo's the only one it might work on, if only because he gets a bit obsessive.Rourke doesn't seem that stupid, Jafar's already got slave girls, Ratcliffe is too busy balancing his books to be distracted... Facilier would try to cut a deal with her.Actually, that might make for some interesting writing. Hades sends meg to convince the good Doctor to do something stupid and he tempts her with a way out of her service, he's got these Friends who could help her out, y'see.
>>36114952Meg's been burned before on deals. It would take a real Hero to make her go against Hades's will.
>>36115023Oh I don't think she'd take it, but I think it'd make an interesting conversation anyhow.
>>36114707>Are you happy being only second-rate?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhj25HnpSRU
>want to write fluff>get halfway into it>fuck this is so shitty>delete it
>>36115203Just do it, man, even if you don't think it's great, it still gets your ideas out there.
>>36114707Author here; I'm going to head to bed soon, but I'm thinking of revising the ending...If I did, would anyone bother reading it again?
>>36115316I would.You're not bad at all.
>>36115326Thanks, anon; I appreciate that.>>36115203Go for it, friend. Don't worry about editing until the story's over - that a lesson that I learned the hard way. Just write.
>>36114852>>36114856Here's part 1, just the exchange between Facilier and Ursula first.Hades one will be coming up next.http://pastebin.com/GPjp3hnS
>>36115463It's very good!
>>36115624Thankye, it's been fun to write.>>36114852>>36114856And here's part 2, Hades mixing things up.http://pastebin.com/h4p30Xh7Gonna go to bed soon, but I may write a small piece when I wake up about Mother Gothel peddling some immortality, we'll see.
>>36111718Um excuse me butsurely tge villains winning in High School Musical means Ryan and Sharpay get the part, Troy and Vanessa stick to their own social groups and the only way Chernabog is defeated is by a sick dunk that ahatters the backboard, Chernabog does not take kindly to hella dunking
>>36115885I love it, but I'm jealous; you write a better Hades than I do.
>>36114217Um, sir.... do the Atlantean Armed Forces wear proper underwater suits to patrol the borders of Atlantis, or do they just use submarines and underwater ships?
>>36116106Don't you think it would be interesting if there was an expansion that would care to elaborate on undersea warfare of Atlantean / World War 1 hybrid submarines against overtly sized and aggressive mermaids and sea-life?
>>36116106In the fluff, would Atlantis have power on the surface, like battleships and torpedo boats that are also semi-submersible?
>>36116183Also, ideas:>Frozen: Elsa's snow golems are an interesting idea. What if most of them are directly linked to her, being not much but snow and severe emotions. Maybe harming them could harm Elsa, giving her feedback from the pain the Snowlems might receive from the PC's characters.
Just woke up, and am eager to see what's been done in the mean time. It seems like things have slowed down slightly with this last thread, which is to be expected given how many threads we've blown through in so short a time. I hope to see what I can do personally to advance the project.
>>36116221That's a pretty interesting suggestion. The feedback Elsa receives from combat might actually make her hostile towards the players, given that no one is particularly well disposed towards intruders, much less intruders that cause harm to them. If taken to a logical extreme, it means that the players will have to avoid all combat with the Snowlems, if they are seeking a diplomatic solution. Given the hostile terrain, this could prove a rather interesting challenge.
If we're including non-Disney stuff, what's the relationship between Ratigan and the Rats of NIMH?
>>36116427I definitely like the idea that the Snowlems are tied to Elsa's emotional state, as it really fits in perfectly with how she is portrayed in the movie with Olaf and Marshmallow, and how we're choosing to adapt that portrayal here with the potential Ice Anna. I think that "passive" interactions with the Snowlems like running away, dodging or defending yourself against attacks they initiate probably wouldn't hurt or anger Elsa or even trip her "invader alert" so to speak, but going in like an Atlantean Away Team and blowing them all away would definitely get her attention and make her more hostile towards you.I'm going to try to write or adapt a King-Land-Rule for her to reflect our current ideas.
>>36111407Isn't the Horned King a little underpowered here? I mean, he's as bad and powerful as Maleficent surely...And his dragons.Also, we including Oogie Boogie?
>>36116861>Meanwhile, a small Virginia town has been spreading rumors about a door in the woods. When people go in, they don't come out. Little do they know that the door is a portal to Boogie Town.>Oogie Boogie doesn't enjoy people interrupting Bug Day, the only holiday that runs 24/7.
>>36116819Thanks, anons. I've never really given thought about it. Maybe this could actually be a way to interact with the Ice Queen, and know her state of emotions. If they attack you with reckless abandon, then you know she doesn't like you. If those things lead you to her castle, then you know she is at least interested in what you have to say.
>>36116990>The only holiday in the world is Bug DayBrilliant. Just like the opening of Nightmare Before Christmas, the Bugs Day parade sweeps through towns and causes people to dance and sing before hurling themselves into the pot of snake-and-spider stew.As the king of Holidays, everyone gets a Boogie Present. Pray you don''t survive your Boogie present.
>>36116819Just make sure she is completely sympathetic; the only Evil Elsa ever does is forced on her in the show and her character flaws exacerbate these into the horrible things they are
>>36117070Also, on Dr. Facillier's land, should there be mobsters? Mobsters that pledge their souls to a Friend, making them part-time mob leaders. Maybe make the atmosphere of the Bayou like the 1930's, but with supernatural elements thrown in. In theory, men could erase some of their debts by joining a Mob Friend/Shadow. Heck, maybe even the PC's could join one, if they need to.
>>36117148Well, it seemed to me in the movie that once the Friends took over, Louisana would be nuked. Like, no life and just a land of Shadows and Friends.So, you could have the shades of mobsters wandering about. Or, more mobsters who made a deal with the Friends like Facilier and have a lesser version of his powers.
>>36113285>Alameda Slim needs a new mount
>>36116819I have to head out to work, but I completed a revamp of Elsa's King and Land entries. Let me know what you think, and I'll finish with her Rule later on.>King: FrostThe Snow Queen Elsa possesses or is perhaps possessed by tremendous power over ice and snow, and it's uncertain what the limits of these powers might be, or if they even exist. While she is best known for conjuring the perpetual snow storms that continue to freeze the nation of Arendelle, her magical potential includes the ability to create as well as to destroy, and she has in the past used her abilities to construct her fantastical ice palace and even imbue sentience, or at least the convincing imitation of sentience, to snowmen and other frozen contructs. Much of what is believed about the Snow Queen in the wide world at large is conjecture however, as no one has seen or spoken with her since the great blizzard began many, many years ago. While Prince Hans of the Southern Isles and many bitter Arrendelle Refugees claim that she sits now on her frigid throne high above the ruins of her former kingdom and surveys her terrible works with satisfaction, others more familiar with Elsa in her youth disagree, believing that her powers bring her only grief and madness and that this maddening grief robs her of any control she once had over them. If the Snow Queen's troubled mind can be soothed and her frozen heart thawed again, our would-be heroes might just find in her a powerful ally against the worse Villains of the world.
>>36117214>LandThe land of Arendelle itself is perhaps the most actively dangerous thing any hero must face if they seek an audience with the Snow Queen. It is a country in the grips of an eldritch winter, where the temperature never rises above Zero and the land is perpetually covered in several feet of snow. Water can only be found by melting the ice, wild game is scarce and wiley, and creating a fire or a source of heat is on occasion too difficult to manage without magical assistance. In some areas, especially surrounding the frozen ruins of Arendelle's capital and the Ice Palace on the mountain above, there is also a terrible ice fog, and to breathe in this white mist is to die a horrible death, choking on frost. Perhaps the most unpredictable of all Arendelle's dangers are the frigid magical constructs of snow and ice that roam the land looking for trespassers and invaders, unbidden by their Queen but none-the-less zealously protecting her self-imposed isolation.
>>36117161Thanks, anon. So, instead of mortal mobsters, instead there are several groups of Friends, all vying to gain control of the Shadowlands. It would be interesting to play as a PC that had lost all his debts to a Mobster Friend, and fled to Alameda's West.
>>36117214Thanks for contributing to the idea, anon. Nice to see my idea can do something.
>>36117161What are shades? Must have missed something in the earlier threads.
>>36117161So, would sorcerous mobsters be appropiate for the setting.
>>36117246>>36117224>>36117214No problem at all. I'm at work now so my contributions to the thread may be slow in coming, but I intend on completing Elsa's K-L-R entry, finding a way to add Olaf and Ice Anna in there, and probably moving on to Yzma's entry afterward. I'll do my best to keep the thread going while we wait for more posters to return.
>>36116861HK's pretty damn powerful. He's got the best mooks in the setting, and is probably third or fourth most powerful non-God magician in the world.
>>36117532Cool. It's midnight here. I'll look at your work on sup/tg/.Also, how would you entertain the idea of a mobster-dominated Shadowlands?
>Near unstoppable force tierChernobogFirebirdSpirits>Living God TierHades>Immortal Sorcerer TierHorned KingJafarMalificentUrsulaQueen Grimhilde>Magically Powered Individual TierDavy JonesPope FrolloElsaShan YuFacilier>Regular Human TierAlameda SlimRadcliffeTzekel-KanYzmaCaptain HookCutler BeckettRourkeMcLeahQueen LaThe Coachman>Beasties TierCarnosaurShere KhanScarLouisBagheeraMor'duRatigan
>>36117726I might contest a few of those, most notably Yzma, seeing as how she'll be banishing the sun from her lands and is a possibly immortal mad scientist.
>>36117791Queen La and Tzekel-Kan are probably above human as well.
>>36117791>>36117798Magically Powered Individuals are those whose abilities are bonded with them. Regular Humans can be isolated from their powers.Perhaps a further subdivision of Regular Human to separate those with no real magical ability (Radcliffe, Rourke, McLeah) and those who made extensive of magic, potions and the like.
>>36117827>Naturally Magical Individuals TierDavy JonesLich!FrolloElsaFacilier>Magically Aided Individuals TierYzmaShan YuTzekel-KanCaptain Hook (assuming he makes use of Fairy Dust)Queen LaAlameda Slim (Yodelling)>A Real Human Bean TierRadcliffeCutler BeckettRourkeMcLeahThe Coachman
>>36117843Didn't Facilier say he couldn't conjure a thing himself except for his friends? Being unreasonably good at parlour tricks like making tarot decks dissapear doesn't count
>>36117869Facilier is actually the name of the shadow inhabiting the body of Robert Proud. He lies about his abilities freely. It tends to make people let their guard down.
>>36117843>>36117726>McLeahIt's actually McLeach, the map has a typo. I was curious to see how long it would be before someone pointed out that typo, but after 10 or so threads I think it's time to point it out myself.
>>36117945Shit, I thought that as well but I figured the map was more accurate than my memories. Fucking loved that film.The map also gets Ursula wrong while we're pointing out mistakes.
>>36117945>No Cruella>No Amos Slade>No MuntzFun picture though
>>36117945So what if the Hunter's Guild is ruled by council with a representative for each continent.Europe - GastonNorth America - Amos SladeSouth America - Charles MuntzOceania - McLeachAfrica - ClaytonAsia - ???I'm thinking there might be a hunter in some Jungle Book EU maybe?
>>36117635Should be stronger; I mean the whole point of the Cauldron-Born is they can't be hurt or fought. HK himself is a bit of a bitch (all he does is scry and use the Cauldron, yeah?) but the Cauldron-Born? Unkillable and unhurtable. Plus, dragons.>>36117485Yeah. Don't like the idea of Facilier as a king though. He's more of a con-man, always on the move and doing what he wants. Also, ther's a lot of cross over between Spirits and Chernbog. Even the biggest spirit looks like Chernbog.>>36117232Y'gotta consider man; the second Facilier couldn't pay, he was yanked to the shadow world. BUT could be an interesting idea to explore. The Shades are what I was calling the smaller, mook shadows.
>>36118017No, HK's an extremely powerful sorcerer capable of teleportation and appears to have super-strength. He just prefers to stay in his castle.
>>36118039>>36118039When's does he teleport?
So, in which kingdoms of Europe might see the PCs trying to win a jousting tournament to gain a McGuffin? Would the rules for jousting just be 'as physical combat, but you strike each other simultaneously'?
>>36118062>in which kingdoms of Europe might see the PCs trying to win a jousting tournament to gain a McGuffin?None of them.Grimhilde's at a stretch.Also, >>36111732
>>36118050He teleports into his mess hall after talking to his dead warriors.
>>36118014>Asia - ???Shan Yu's falcon.
>>36118100The Horned King has become even more based in my mind.
>>36118122A nice idea but I can't see the Hunter's having a good relationship with animals.
>>36118177Buldeo. He was cut from the Jungle Book but was supposed to be a secondary antagonist killed by Shere Khan. They would share a villain song called 'The Mighty Hunters.'>Buldeo is my name of fame>I'm expert with the weapon>Shere Khan's the game I mean to tame>His carcass I shall step on>I'll meet my victim eye-to-eye>He knows just how I hate him>He'll have no time to say goodbye>For I'll exterminate him.
>>36118210Pic for reference
>>36118210>>36118221https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdXts3TGncQThe song exists
>>36118177True, but when Shan Yu comes along and tells you that he wants a stake in your club and that his falcon is the only one he trusts to represent him, can you really say no?The only other two thoughts on the matter I've had are>John Smith was stationed in India, and never went to the New World at all>Mowgli somehow survived Shere Khan's victory, and apprenticed himself to the Hunters so that he may one day avenge his dear friend Baloo.I think the first seems more plausible.
>>36118014>>36118210Cool.So the Hunter's Guild would be another soft start for human players. I picture a relatively free society where prestige is everything. Young men and women eagerly train to be hunters and then head to the local Hunting Lodge to sign up for an overseas hunt. Only the best hunters get the chance to go abroad but they can expect to visit any of the Beast Kingdoms and try and bag some exotic trophies.The Guild has a dedicated Hunting Reserve in South America but otherwise, they are essentially poachers, preying on beasts that are largely innocent. There are rewards for the rarity and power of the creatures bagged. Big Cats, as the ruling class of the Beast Kingdoms, rank very highly, but only the most famous Hunters, the Elite Hunting Council, have managed to bag the true prize: a Lizard King from Dinosaur Island.A typical campaign for an Australia start would see players joining an overseas Hunt only for things to rapidly go south and their allegiances to change as the inherent villainy of these hunts becomes clearer. I'm thinking there's a strong thread of propaganda that claims that sentient beasts are a myth and that the so called Beast Kingdoms are just unclaimed lands, ravaged by wild animals. Your average Huntsman isn't evil, just misguided. Only those at the upper levels are aware of the mass murder they're committing with each expedition.
Is there any pre-made adventures that I could use for a trial game?
>>36118337>Big Cats, as the ruling classHuh. What if Shere Khan had a sort of Caste System imposed throughout India? Kaa and Louie's lands are subject to it but Bagheera's free beast resist it?Something likeFeline - Essentially royalty. They can break the laws with impunity and regularly do so. They are allowed to hunt almost every other class, bar Simians.Simians - The next lowest class. Louie is responsible for their high position. They act with relative freedom but are still subject to the Feline rule.Great Beasts - Includes things like Elephants, Wolves, Cows and Snakes. Essentially covers anything that is powerful or impressive enough to be marked for special treatment. They are the upper levels of typical Beast society and enjoy a certain amount of freedom, especially compared to the Lower Beasts.Lower Beasts - All other animals fall here. Expect harsh treatment and near poverty to be rife. Low life expectancy and a constant source of prey for the higher ranking animals.The Untouchables - Humans of any sort. Beasts are forbidden from associating with them and are encouraged to hinder, stalk and outright kill anyone that tries to enter the realm.
>>36118413No. Where would you prefer such an adventure be set?
>>36118432Shere Khan doesn't hold sway over King Louie, actually. In this setting he did pick up the power of man's red flower somewhere. There is just way too much fire going on where the monkeys rule for Khan to consider trying to enforce his will.
>>36118432>The Untouchables - Humans of any sort. Beasts are forbidden from associating with them and are encouraged to hinder, stalk and outright kill anyone that tries to enter the realm.I take it that domesticated animals would also be treated as Untouchables.
>>36118432Shere Khan doesn't have any power over Louis, and Kaa would probably try to worm his way out of it. Plus Khan likes lording it over and taunting humans before he kills them too much not to let them slip into his lands occasionally.
>>36118457I imagine a Crusade of some sort by Frollo would be a good start.Probably against Olympus.The PCs could be mercenaries hired by Frollo who get stranded and have to fight their way back back to Rome
>>36118485They'd probably be a sort of hybrid class. They'd rank higher than humans but lower than Low Beasts. I imagine they're a rare sight and not really taken into consideration by the broader political structure of India.>>36118475I'm thinking Louis largely has freedom to do as he wants but he exists as a result of Shere Khan's good will. Sure, he could put up a good fight if it came to it but it's not an ideal situation for either side.Besides, the caste system benefits him more than most. All he has to worry about are big cats and they're far more interested in lounging around in Shere Khan's court than the wild Kingdom of the Red Flower where mischievous chimps are prone to tying burning twigs to their tails and then taking off into the trees.>>36118517Khan might well let people slip into his lands but that doesn't mean they're welcomed. More likely he just goes to the borders and rounds up a bunch from a village, drags them back to his home and then toys with them at his leisure.As for Kaa, it's a similar situation to Louis. Sure, he's technically an independent ruler but Shere Khan is more than capable of swatting him aside if he decides to. Kaa might not enforce the Caste System quite as strictly as Khan or Louis do (why bother when most of your subjects are under your sway anyhow) but he still respects his neighbor's wishes.That said, I do think Kaa should have much less land than on the current map. A small realm but very tightly controlled where practically everyone is under his sway.
>>36117224>>36117214>RuleSnow Queen Elsa doesn't exactly rule the people of Arendelle as, with a few notable exceptions, there is hardly anyone in Arendelle left to rule. After the death of her sister, Princess Anna, the cold snap and perpetual blizzard resulting from Elsa's terrible grief and loss of control forced all her surviving subjects to flee to warmer climes, leaving their nation an abandoned arctic wasteland and their capital of Arendelle an icy mausoleum filled with the flash-frozen bodies of the citizenry that had not been able to escape the cold. It is rumored however, that even as harsh and wintry as Arendelle has become, it isn't entirely devoid of life. The last group of adventurers to return from the snowbound country have said that one especially hale, hearty and hairy merchant family still lives in their hot spring-heated compound, helping supply would-be adventurers for very modest and reasonable prices, and even claim that some of the Snow Queen's oldest and dearest constructs may be capable of rational thought and empathy. Please let me know how I can improve this. I wanted to hint at Olaf and Ice Anna at the end, but any improvements that can be made are welcome.
>>3611855910/10 Would let use my sauna
>>36118413There's a starting adventure in the works for Sleepy Hollow. The Headless Horseman is causing havok and the players have to stop it.Talked about a few threads back, but not sure if there's a Pastebin yet.
A bit of fluff info, Hades is Ursula's uncle. Triton and Ursula are Posiden's kids.
>>36118664It might be run to try Nd come up with a low level as entire in modern metropolitan Atlantis. Come lunch I'll either work on that or Yzma's King-Land-Rule entry, whichever everyone prefers.
>>36118805Damned iPhone keyboard.
>>36118776Yeah, I can dig it.
>>36118557Actually, on the topic of Kaa, we've talked about him getting food, but couldn't he use Christopher Robin to just churn out an army if Khan invaded?
>>36111853>>36111743>>36111718>>36111776>>36111802>>Chernabog challenges Zac Efron to a fiddling contesthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RUg-NkjY4
>>36118930I like to think that he doesn't have total control on Christopher Robin's powers. He can cajole and convince him to do something over time but in a crunch situation like impending invasion, it's gonna be a while before CR is churning out anything useful.
>>36118938>Chernabog's ultimate attack is basically the video "Night On Bald Mountain">The only way to defeat him to ACTUALLY out-song him
>>36117869He said his powers doesn't work on himself. It's never made clear he got his illusion powers from his Friends, though.>>36117843The coachman has an island that transforms kids into donkey.
Do any of the classic Disney characters such as Mickey and Donald fit in anywhere?
>>36119055Wait for the expansions
>>36119064>>36119073I think Scrooge McDuck could work quite well as as the richest man/duck in the world as well as being a mysterious financial backer for adventures
>>36119097The toon splat book would have them and Scrooge is too op. Rejected.
>>36119055>>36119064>Magica de Spell finally got her hand on the First Dime>Radcliff suddenly discovers than some italian duck witch is richer than him
>>36119097We can't have this setting with Scrooge going around, just fucking Chernobog and everyone else up. Evil won here, which means there never was a Scrooge McDuck around to stop it.
>>36119160I wouldn't say that Scrooge was ever particularly good maybe he appears as a crazed hermit in some mountain castle who has gone mad from his lack of contact over the years
>>36119184We said no Scrooge since thread 1. Nice try, but no.
>>36119214>>36119214Yep, and as we all know, if it was said in the first thread then it is the gospel truth and cannot be changed or altered in any way, shape or form.
>>36119293Somebody make a poll for it.
>>36119293Listen, man: allowing cartoons like Donald Duck or Roger Rabbit would go against everything else in the setting. But if you want, make a poll.
>>36119329Roger Rabbit is in the setting where do you think DOOMtown comes from?
>>36119329>>36119315I don't really want toons in the setting. I was just pointing out that appeal to tradition is a stupid argument.
>>36119342We removed it several threads ago.
>>36119342DOOMtown is cut.It might crop up again in a Toon Expansion.Victorious Villains: Twisted Toons?
>>36119353>>36119363The 1d4chan map needs to be updated
>>36119371Yes it does.
>>36118987Makes sense, I just loved the idea of a bunch of cutesy forest animals marching out to massacre the enemy. Do the Jungle Book characters interact all that often? A four-way discussion between them all sounds like something for the writefags.
>>36119647Well Bagheera is effectively a rebel leader so I doubt he interacts with them. I feel like Shere Khan interacts with the other Kaa and Louis rarely speak. Maybe if there's a disagreement over that enterprising ape pirate who controls the Indian Ocean, Kaa might take it up directly with Louis but it's unlikely.
I'm just going to comment that I also think that Disney's televised cartoons and outright toonishness ought to be saved for an expansion or addon. They're good inclusions, but not quite in keeping with the current theme.Attempting to write Yzma's K-L-R now.
>>36119815I think some of it should slip through when it works especially well (The Proud Family backstory for Facilier is pretty great) but yeah, the bulk shouldn't be included.
>>36119815>Attempting to write Yzma's K-L-R now.Taxes and tolls everywhere
>>36119815Do you think Yzma keeps the Tributaries as a control group while she experiments on her own people?
>>36119914I think Yzma's people love her so much that they're lining up to be experimented on. She has such a strong cult of personality that people believe it's their patriotic duty to test her potions. Her followers are zealous and fiercely opposed to anyone who goes against Yzma.The tributaries are much more ambivalent about her but will occassioanlly participate in experiments (as control subjects mostly) to earn a brief respite from taxation.
>>36119957I liked the idea where her subjects were just sort of resigned to her crazy scheming. Collectively rolling their eyes when she reveals her latest plan to stop Tzekial Kan or whomever involves turning him into a prizewinning race-llama and the like.
Is there a pastebin with all the K-L-Rs?
>>36120052The unupdated one is the first in the OP.
>>36119815Watch "Snuff Out the Light"
>>36119815>>36119866>>36119914>>36119957First part. Hard to find time even during my lunch break. Please let me know what needs to be tweaked.>King: Empress Yzma the First and LastWhile Empress Yzma's dominion over the majority of South America would seem to imply that she is doing something right, you might be hard pressed to figure out exactly what that something is. Building on the foundations of narcissism, madness and wild unpopularity laid down by her predecessor and one-time protege Emperor Kuzco, Yzma's reign has so far brought more of the same, making the transition of power a relatively smooth one from the perspective of her jaded subjects. Despite all appearances however, she is much more than just a crazy old lady that's scary beyond all reason. Empress Yzma the First and Last is a consummate mad scientist with an encyclopedic knowledge of chemistry, alchemy, pharmacology and zoology. Even beyond her love of transforming people into bizarre and ridiculous things, she is also well versed in other cartoonishly super-villainous disciplines, such as lever pulling, deathray building, monster ranching, secret laboratory rollercoasting and, her most impressive feat to date: banishing the sun from her Empire. The true threat Yzma poses to would-be adventurers and the world is not what you know she can do, but what you don't know she will do.
>>36120275>well versed in lever pullingShame Kronk isn't so learned
Are Pixar movies counted as Disney movies?If so are there any plans for Monsters Inc?
Traits and Powers of Knights and Knight-Equivalents:Powers:>My Word is as Good as Law: When swearing any sort of oath or making any sort of promise, you may spend a heart point to gain a +5 bonus to any checks you need to directly fulfill the oath or promise.>Zealous Champion: Pick a cause. You cannot be dissuaded from your cause by Illusions or social skills unless the other party spends a heart point.Traits:>Honorable Challenger: +3 to Melee and Prevent Harm while engaged in one-on-one combat.>Golden Hearted Saint: +4 to any checks made to directly help the poor, the misfortunate and/or the downtrodden.>Monster Slayer: Any fear-based attacks from monstrous creatures such as ogres, giants or dragons are reduced by one strike.>Chivalry: +3 to all social skills so long as you follow the warrior's code of your own culture.>STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM!: +2 to Intimidate, Melee, Ranged and Prevent Harm against the criminal element.How's my crunch-fu today?
>>36120336It's set aside for future expansions.
>>36120336>>36120432An anon did propose that the Monster World basically became a totalitarian state, stealing children to provide fuel. Due the mass villain victory, children are becoming desensitised and harder to scare. The Monster World is facing an energy crises and considering an invasion of the earth in order to acquire more energy.Battery #00, the first human child captured by the monsters managed to escape, aided by a dissident group of Monsters that have since been crushed. She now roams the Beast Kingdoms, using the door technology to stay one step ahead of her enemies, hoping to both free the children she left behind and find a long lost friend supposedly exiled to Earth. She knows the furry, blue creature simply as 'Kitty'
>>36120275>Land: The Sunless Empire The first thing an adventurer would notice about the Sunless Empire is that it does indeed appear to lack a sun, having in its place something very much resembling a solar eclipse with a caricature of the Empress' face at the center.Is this idea too much?
>>36120640Maybe just a sinister smile?
>>36120640This needs to be a thing
>>36117945Never trust a map
>>36120789see? you can't trust them
>>36120655>>36120678I'll keep it for now and it can be changed later if it's too goofy. I'm going more for "cartoonishly super-villainous" with Yzma, to fit the tone if the original movie.
>>36120810(Ursula not Ursella)
>>36120810Remove DOOMTown too.
>>36119184No ScroogeScrooge solos the entire campaign
>>36120398And now for the sake of variety, cowboys and injuns:Powers:>Quick Draw King: You may always make one attack in the surprise round, and never suffer penalties in the surprise round.>Shaman: May spend a heart point to receive aid from powerful spirits.Traits:>Cattle Baron: +3 to all herding and ranching checks.>Horse Lord: +3 to Travel while on horseback, to handle horses and to tame wild horses.>I Shot the Sheriff: +3 to Ranged against any authority figures you deem corrupt.>But I Did Not Shoot the Deputy: +3 to any checks to judge someone's moral character.>Cree: With a foot in both worlds, you are equally comfortable among the native tribes and the white men. Because you can pass for either, you never suffer from racial discrimination so long as you assume the racial identity that will not be discriminated against at the time.>That's Why He Asks You How: There are many, many tribes out there, but you know all their customs and what dumb questions you shouldn't ask; they tend to appreciate this. +3 to social skills with any Injun leader.>Paint With All The Colors of The Wind: +4 to survival-based Travel so long as you always show the natural world its due respect.
>>36121048Which reminds me.....what fates did we have in quantum superposition for Pocahontas?
>>36118557I think that king Louie and his monkeys would be untouchables in this caste system, because they associate with humans. Sher Khan tries to lord over them, but they've got enough fire to roast him to next week if they want to
>>36121144It would not be so much that they associate with humans as they try to be like the humans.
>>36121144>>36121169Shere Khan irrationally hates humans. He doesn't particularly care about human behaviour (he's fairly humanlike himself) but he detests hunters and guns, neither of which are top of Lous' agenda. For the time being, anyhow.
>>36121231That Red Flower certainly keeps him awake at night, though.
>>36120853Strange, I was sure I did that already
>>36121048You're doing a pretty amazing job at this, knightfag.Got any tips for us less well versed in the ways of crunch? My fluff is only passable as well
>>36121254Yes. There;s a sort of stalemate going on between the two. Khan wants nothing to do with fire but Louis knows that if pushed, the Tiger would decimate his lands. It's an uneasy truce that could collapse if either power gets any significant advantage over the other.
>>36121262It's probably the version I posted when I was mucking around with making stripes in GIMP. I used a version of the map from when DOOMtown was a thing as a base.
>>36121262HER NAME IS URSULA NOT URSELLA
>>36121278As I have said before, if you want to write power, it might be a good idea to ask yourself "what would be a really cool thing to spend a heart point on?" That way, the power can be a pretty big deal without it being overpowering. As for traits, the usefulness of a trait is the product of three things: the actual bonus, how many skills it applies to and how often circumstance allow you to use it. You have to try and keep your traits at about the same utility as everyone else's.
>>36121365Oh, and a theme. Everything has to have some sort of theme. Pop culture references in the names are good; Disney references are better.
I want to try myself at songwriting again.Anyone want a song? Re-write, lyrics for instrumental, original lyrics... I'll try to do it
>>36121447Showgirl tunes from Alameda's casino.
>>36121447Songwriting? How about National Anthems for some of the nations?
>>36121502I think Atlantis should use some kind of Rourke aggrandizing version of "Hail to the Chief". It has lyrics, you know.
>>36121447How about a darkly comedic song for Ice Anna about trying to learn how to be the real Anna and finally having visitors to try her Anna performance out on?
>>36121308Does Kaa still have a territory? Because if that's still the case, I've noticed a potential three way stalemate. Louie's men use fire to keep Khan away, Khan scares the shit out of Kaa and Kaa's power puts even the highest stepping of Louie's monkeys to sleep. fire fear sleep shoot!
>>36121547I laughed and felt feels at the same time thinking about that, it should definitely get a song.
Have we got anything for healing?I don't mean crunch strike restoration, but in-universe healing or medical aid
>>36121515Something like:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRPtsJ1487wHail to the Chief that will conquer all the nations,Hail to the Chief! We salute him, one and all.Hail to the Chief, as we pledge cooperationIn proud fulfillment of a great, noble call.Yours is the aim to make his grand country grander,This you will do, that's our strong, firm belief.Hail to the one who is the best commander,Hail to the President! Hail to the Chief!
Greatest Francia,We know we are a righteous land,Of our virtue we are justly proud.Greatest Francia,We know we are much purer thanThe common, vulgar, weak licentious world.And see us, Francia,Soon you'll see us marching there,While their smold'ring scorch the soil.We see them, we know them,The Lord lost to heathen fearsIs causing in me rage out of control.Our fire,HellfireThis fire in our skinThis burningDesireTo burn those turned to sin.
>>36121711>smold'ring corpses scorch the soilMy bad
I imagine the Sunless Empire's anthem is similar to this but obviously without the parts about Kuzcohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3XwgmHXXXc
>>36121575>>36121547I'll try this
>>36121734Fucking kek.Yzma slots in nicely.Also>dat fake John Goodman voiceouch
>>36121734>>36121815https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhcyeIEBT4IThere's a better one
>>36121278>Got any tips for us less well versed in the ways of crunch?So, you want to learn about Crunch, do ya?It's a long and unforgiving path, but... okay, let's skip to the point. I'm gonna throw up my notesheet of 'things to remember'.Some general rules for balancing:Traits should give between 2 for a +2 to every roll with this skill, to +3 for a specific use of a skill, to +4 for a specific use of the skill with another specific uncommon condition. If it gives out more than +4, or is not matched to the above categories, include a penalty of some sort that is thematically appropriate.Never, ever give out auto-successes unless it's a Villain, and even then use them sparingly except on Kings.The average roll on 3d6 is 10.5.The average TN for a Heroic Deed (like climbing a tower, jumping a wide gap, etc) should be 20, which is the average roll for a player with 7 in an attribute and trained in the requisite skill: 10.5+7+3 = 20.5.Nonhuman races should get the following:2 bonuses to Skills, between 2 for a +2 to every roll with this skill, to +4 for a specific use of the skill with another specific uncommon condition.Bonuses and penalties to Attributes. They should look something like this: +2 to a stat, +2 to another stat, -2 to a third stat. As long as the overall result is +2, and no stat starts at 0, it should be okay.1 rank of a Skill for Beast races, to make up for an inability to communicate with Humans and the rank in Linguistics they must spend.
>>36121847Now there's a woman I never wanted to see anything less than fully dressed.>Dat cheerleader outfit
How close are we to a new thread?
Still at work and without time to finish the Yzma K-L-R, but I thought I'd archive this thread before it got too late.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+VictoriousAs always, please up vote any threads you like!
>>36121960Confirmed for misogynist. Womyn come in all shapes and sizes and they aren't designed to appeal to your dick, Knightfag. Why don't you go back to masturbating in your parent's basement. Like, holy fuck, I can't even.
>>36121970Generally we wait for the current thread to fall to page seven or eight before starting the next.
>>36121985>The Misogyny>Many TriggersWow, you guys are so problematic
>>36114707All right, I think that I've finished editing it.In the process, I've added an entirely new page of material - though not all in one place.I don't think that there's a single paragraph that's gone unchanged.I think that I'll post it in the next thread, though - something to celebrate with.
>>36121985>lifeforms>designed for anythingShouldn't you be busy denying evolution or something?
Assembled pastebins:King/Land/Rule: http://pastebin.com/p6UzetYh (Needs to be updated)Class roles: http://pastebin.com/fj58NSYMXP: http://pastebin.com/61Je2agNBeast Species: http://pastebin.com/ZNVPBJWjSetting Traits: http://pastebin.com/8RRbwMQTGeneric Traits: http://pastebin.com/MZwvGsyXWe're missing the pastebin with generic powers for each class.
>>36122055Oh my G_d, Anti-Religious material is literally my trigger, I'm fucking freaking out right now, I hope you're fucking happy. I'm actually having a panic attack because of your atheist privilege. You fucking disgust me. Tip your fedora harder, you devil.
>>36122055God, ur such a misogynist virgin. no wonder you think Knights are cool, you just want to oppress more womyn with ur chivalry
>>36122086>Tip your fedora harder, you devil
Is feminism a defunct movement in the VV world? With so many witches and queens ruling the world, why would we need a feminist movement?
>>36122128Ditto Racism? Is that an issue we want to touch on? I'm assuming Frollo's nation is fairly anti-Islam but is it racially motivated?
>>36122150Obviously there's anti-animal racism. Especially in Oz.
This really is what Kingdom Hearts should have been from the beginning - a Disney World beset by evil, where hope has burned low, and only a few heroes might turn the tide against the darkness.Disney should never have partnered with Square-Enix.
>>36122164By which I mean Australia, not the Wizard of Oz.Or should we just ignore these real world issues and keep it a safe space
>>36122189Yes yes, you're hilarious, ha ha tumblr ha ha. Now, bugger off.
>>36122189As far as I can tell, even the real world will forget some of it's own biases for an extraordinary individual, any Disneyverse no doubt takes that even further.
>>36122128>>36122150>>36122164>>36122189>Ah ah, Tumblr! Am I right, fellas?!Such a creative comedian.
>>36122128>>36122150>>36122164>>36122189Would you kindly leave?
>>36122128>>36122150>>36122164>>36122189Whats the joke? Lesbians can be treated like white knights?
>>36122128>>36122150>>36122164>>36122189We're not here to make insightful political commentary. We're here to make a fucking narrativistic disney fanmade RPG.Also what the fuck is this comic trying to say? No, don't answer, I don't want to know.
>>36121767This sound fantastic, thank you for trying!>>36121515Based on the American Pledge of Allegiance from 1892-1922:I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Atlantean Republic for which it stands: one island nationunited, with liberty and justice for all.
>>36122317Methinks it was your run of the mill DIE CIS SCUM production that was fooled around with for giggles and shits.
>>36121767Something like this?:Ice Anna [spoken]: Visitors! At last. Olaf! Travelers will be there soon! We need to be prepared!Olaf[spoken]: What, do you want to build a snowman to deal with them?IA [spoken]: It doesn't have to be a snowman... No, what I want is for them to think I'm Anna.O[spoken]: Hmm, you know, I'm not sure it's gonna work...IA [spoken]: Please, Olaf. I see how Elsa look at me, always thinking how I'm not HER. (saddened voice) For once, I'd want people to treat me like a real person...O[spoken]: Humm, well...IA[spoken]: (enthusiastic again )Come on! We have to make everything read! I'm so happy I could sing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbTs_C7cRYkIA:It's me AnnaIA: Sis of ElsaIA:princess idealO:I've never seen her act like thatO:I really can't recallIA:My act will be awesome and grandIA:Performance triumphalIA:My plan'll be magnificentIA:There's no way this can failO: Majesty, I'll end up as a cloudIA:I wish to at last be Anna !
>>36122338My phone broke that up real good.How about "My Country, 'Tis of Thee"My country, in the sea,Sweet isle of liberty,Of the I sing;Land where my fathers lie,Land of blue seas and skies,From every craft we fly,Let freedom ring.Not great but a starting point.
>>36122438Whats the background to Ice Anna?
>>36121004The real joke is that I'm in college and still can't spell
>>36122438note: this is only the start. I'm just looking if I'm in the right track for this song
>>36122497Whats going on in Japan is it just unchanged from the EU3 map?
>>36122497Is this the up-to-date map that should be on the 1d4chan page?
>>36122492Anna froze and died and in her deep depression and guild Elsa revived her into a ice golem, sort of like olaf. Ice Golem Anna knows she isn't Anna but she tries so hard to be her.
>>36122541Guilt not guild
>>36122497>Lich Pope Yellow still indistinguishable from West West YellowGranted you're not going to get them mixed up by proximity but come on, is there not a sandy yellow you can use?
>>36122492Similarly to how Elsa had subconsciously animated Olaf in the movie, after Anna had been turned into an ice sculpture she too was brought to life by the Snow Queen's desire to have her sister back. However, Ice Anna is quite emphatically NOT the real Anna and she knows that very well, but in her attempts to please Elsa and be treated like a person she tries very hard to learn all she can about the real Anna so that she can better play the part.Her personality is similar to the real Anna's, but she's a bit dim and a bit ditzy, and sometimes inadvertently lapses into gallows humor, not really understanding just how terrible Arendelle has become.She also poses and plays with the flash-frozen citizens in the ruins of the city.
>>36114529So... he's a little like pic related ?
>>36122514>>36122438This is a very good start I think! The sense of lonliness and giddy anticipation is VERY Disney, and also harksens back to one of Anna's optimistic songs at the beginnig of Frozen. Nice work!
>>36122531>JapanIt's being fought over by several parties. Or at least the coastline is. Stray too far inland and you'll run up against the mysterious Shinto Spirits (that look strikingly similar to those from Spirited Away). The island chain is contested by the East India Company, the Huns, Davy Jones' pirates and Ursula (and possibly Atlantis? It looks like a blob of olive on the map).
>>36122536Yep, it's the most recent one
>>36122536Actually wait just a sec, I'm gonna fix the Fae lands color
>>36122718Can you give them some dedicated lands? Areas where not even the Inquisitors dare to tread.
If someone would like to start a new thread, this current thread has already been archived and is ready for voting up:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Disney+Villains+Victorious
>>36122536Okay here's the one to use
>>36122782>They should probably have a few to represent Maleficent's castle and the Kingdom of Thorns.
>>36122317>>36122292>>36122385It's pictures from a french website where stories from women being harassed are being told in the form of comic strips. This story, originaly telling how one of those girls has been druged with GHB, has been rewritten by some idiot.There's no joke behind this, if not for the lameness of the whole embezzlement.Now yes, I would also like this random shitposter to leave.
>>36122863>drugged by crocodileswut
>>36122870Gah, no don't do it yet! I have new suggestions coming in which I need to account for. Damn it, anon, make up your mind!
>>36122898It takes me literally 2 minutes to change it, this is the least stressful and least difficult part of my self-assigned job.Post it when you have a new one, and I'll put up that one over it.
>>36122897geddit, cause men are predators.
>>36122897>drugged by crocodilesHot.
>>36122860>>36122782How's this look?
>>36122906I'll make an official map post with the changes listed once we come to a consensus on Maleficenct's territory.
>>36122913muh autism doesn't like non-contiguous realms. Please link them yellow blobs.
>>36122913I think Frollo's Italy should have a direct land route into the contested zone; after all for him to contest it effectively he needs to be able to get troops there, no?
>>36122947They aren't the same country, you know. One's the Old West, the other is the Archidocecis Pontificis Immortalis.
>>36122974I think he means Italy and France.
>>36122974Disregard that, I just noticed Italy.
>>36122974>>36122992Heh-heh, a massive bridge across the Atlantic isn't a bad idea.
>>36122947Be thine autisto satisfacoried?
>>36123030Not that Anon, but this is legit
>>36123030Nice. Now can you post the Disney purist version as well, just so I can save it for my own campaigns?
>>36122960>>36122974ur the boss
>>36123030More like this perhaps. I think the Med should be controlled by Frollo. The Fey are only really a thing inland.
>>36123066You sir are a true asset to this team. Thank you for your continued service.
So, are we doing the thing suggested last thread where the Shadowlands are covered by eternal magical darkness where it acts like the sun's getting through (plants grow, it's warm, etc.) but unless you have a lantern or torch it's pitch black and you can't see for shit? I really liked that idea.
>>36123043If you really want to inb4 anti-eldorado floodgates are opened
>>36123088Aw, but now I can't have the delicious mental image of a Cauldron-Born constantly lit alight by Holy Flame.
Does it mean Dr. Doofenschmirtz get to conquer the Tri-State Area?
>>36123145I think the route we're going is something like "Sun doesn't stay in the sky as long as it does in other places, but twilight seems to last forever. You know shadows are longest and more powerful during twilight and dawn.
>>36123178He'd have to deal with Virginian colonists, Shadowland horrors, and Atlantean death-lasersBut possibly.
>>36123150>Disney Purist>Still got Princess MononokeYou had one job, Cart. One job. Actually several. But still.
>>36123169Yeah, We need some Pontiff on Cauldronborn action up in here
>>36123189I know, but 'eternal cloud of darkness that means you literally can't see for shit anywhere' is just so cool.
>>36123195We are about compromise. people really wanted so Ghibli so we gave a little and we worked it out.
>>36123195What, you don't like the idea of both Pirates and Huns being so bloody terrified of the inland of Japan?>we don't go to Japan anymore...
>>36123248I'd have rather it was just all pirates and huns, but okay then. Good job!
Okay, everyone, I've got a paper to write so I'll be gone for a couple of hours. Keep fiddling with the map if you want, and I'll look it over when I return>Captcha: waoffun HistoricalYou're right, Captcha, history is fun!
>>36123248This is completely unnecessary. People this autistic are going to change shit anyway. Let's not waste DC's valuable time catering to them.
>>36123291Good luck Dread, you based bastard!
Shall I start a new thread, or would someone else be more comfortable doing it? I can copy and paste with the best of them but I'm not so great with organizing the data in a meaningful way.
>>36123311No, I'll do it. I'm used to it by now.
>>36123311I think we have a dedicated threadstarter, he tried to kick my ass last time I suggested doing his job
>>36123322Thank you very much for your help.
>>36123328Git yer filthy hands off me precious job, ya ingrate.
>>36114376No numerical bonuses. Just "that's cool, you're a pretty cool guy."