Continued on from >>35976464
>>36002469Jaffar seems to be in genie form in that picDoes that mean that he simply killed Alladin before he got trapped inside his lamp?
>>36002480I am aware that it is a thing, but I was not sure if it made sense give the setting we're dealing with.Another question comes to mind: who exactly are Facilier's friends on the other side? If he won, then he is presumably still on good terms with them: which implies that New Orleans is now a necropolis.
>>36002626Demons, spirits, something else. Things that are simply not of this world.I like to think that the magic of his friends would be simply a "what the fuck is this shit?" situation for any other villain, because it's like its source is a from a different dimensions.
>>36002601Probably.>>36002626These lovely fellowshttp://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Demons
What happened to Cruella de Vil? Assassinated by Hyenas?
>>36002701>One of the Shadow Demons summoned by Facilier is tall, skinny, and has large, oval shaped eyes, leading many to believe that this is supposed to look like Jack Skellington. Now isn't that interesting. So Jack went with the winning team? Is he playing mole for the good guys? Something else?
>>36002747He's just there to cause some scares.Everybody seems to freak out plenty when he shows up, that'sp retty much what he cares about
>>36002741she's a wealthy businesswoman who gets furs from radcliffe in america and the hunters in africa, obviouslyalso scar could never conquer the jungles of africa, only the savannahthere's too much scary shit in there that the hunters are constantly being eaten by
>>36002805Scar rules the Savannah, while Sabor rules the jungle.
I'd like to think Kaa gets closer to being the character from the actual Jungle Book - an ancient terrifying creature that doesn't sound like Winnie the Pooh.
A problem we have with this setting is that some characters very clearly belong in specific time periods, and in certain cases they clash horrendously.Are we seriously suggesting that Frollo and Cruella are in neighboring nations at the same time?
>AUTOPILOT went full AM and harvested all the humans aboard into energy>now he haunts the night skies with his robot army looking for more delicious humans
>>36002872Villains do not die from old age. Possibly magical? Maybe one of the magical types managed to make a long-life serum from Mother Gothel's flower.
>>36002872frollo might either be a 'holy' lich or just a religious icon by theneither way it doesn't all happen at once, hades conquered greece way before the kingdoms of europe flourished
>>36002872>>36002892See, this is exactly what I mean. There is the technology to build a spaceship but Clayton still uses an old-timey rifle?
>>36002872Well, some of the older villains are clearly immortal - like Jafar - or incredibly long-lived - like Ursula. You can set it in the time where it'd make sense that everyone is alive and well somehow. Or that because of the overall fuckery the world isn't at the same technological level at every place?
>>36002977We need fanart.
>>36003003Gimme a bit
>>36002953AUTOPILOT was drawn to the magical height of earth civilization through time travel, and fled the dead earth of the far futureAKA the world went to shit so bad even the robots had to go back in time
wonderland is clearly a sort of dystopian parallel universe.this begs the question, do any other villains manage to find it?maybe the queen from snow white does with her magic mirror and tries to invade with her army of chaos dwarves?
>>36003092Sure, you just need to fall into the rabbit hole.And since most of the portals are underground, Hades has decided to conquer the living shit out of it.Mostly because its denizens decided to make tea from the waters of the river Styx.
>>36003092Nah, Facilier's Friends on the Other side demand he help them invade the place because they know all the shit that happens everywhere
what about the random fucking mecha shark from james and the giant peach?or the FUCKING RHINO THAT CAME FROM THE CLOUDS?
>>36003164The Mechashark is the primary method of the East India Company enforcing their will.
>>36003187>Mechashark vs Kraken
>>36003092>"Mirror Mirror on the wall, keep the portal standing tall!"
What are the fates of The Tremaine FamilyThe Horned KingMother Gothel
>>36003231How's the weather down there?
There was something resembling a timeline in the last thread: not sure how trustworthy it is, but it seems okay at a first glance.>36001715
>>36003231>Hey, Hades?>Yeah, just dropping by to say fuck you, my soul is still here
>>36003295>>36003231DAMMIT my phone keeps putting it upside down
>>36003268Mother Gothel gets the long hair herself.
>>36002701Those are the mere MINIONS of his friends on the other side. Who knows what the true shape of those masked entities were.....
>>36003341>And fuck you too, Grimhilde!
>>36003344Probably Chernabog. That is, if he isn't the benefactor in disguise.
>>36003283Some mistakes. Frozen is 1840s and Tangled is 1780s. Most of Tarzan occurs 20 years after the1880s intro section.
>>36003344It's Chernabog.There's actually a Disney multiverse on tvtropes so you guys might feel faggy if you come up with the same ideas by mistake.
>>36003378Also, TLM is also 1840s, Hans Christian Andersen appears in the show.
>>36003370>>36003406Nah mang, Chernabog is the prince of shadows in our world and his own hellThose are from a different place
>>36003435you know what fuck it my phone hates 4chan and wont post pics properly
So, a map in progress of the Disneyverse.The real world overlaps in places with Neverland and Wonderland.Underneath it is Hades' realm, and even even deeper down is Tartarus, where the Titans are trapped.I was thinking of adding Triton's Kingdom alongside them, but it's technically a part of the real world.The Other Side is somewhere out there. Nobody knows what's there or how to get there, not even the people in touch with it.
>>36003268Having read the Chronicles of Prydain and considering the villains he is actually a composite of, his dark army conquers all of Wales, then all of Britain, and then who knows, all the while stealing technology, magical items, great works of lore and art and killing anyone who knows of them so that their secrets are lost to mankind and his alone to keep.
>>36002835>Scar and Sabor mate>their panthera hybrid offspring becomes the ruler of all wildlife
>>36003517>the great claw that shall rend the world
>>36003456I'll bet that they know each other on a first name basis, though.
>>36003435>dammit Frollo, stop goofing around in that goddamn cathedral>>36003439If we go with Celebrity cameos the timeline doesn't work. Tarzan has the possibility of meeting both Darwin and Kipling. Darwin died before Kipling became famous.
>>36003268>TremaineMarried off one of her daughters to the Prince, possibly by stealing a fairy's wand and going back in time. Now ruling family of wherever the hell Cinderella took place; Cinderella herself probably starved under a bridge.>Horned KingSince his army is vast and powerful, but completely unintelligent without direct orders, he only controls what is now Hungary and Batislava and basically acts as a cushion between the politcally savvy Grimhilde and the evil-even-by-villain-standards Chernabog.>Mother GothelHas managed to extract some sort of long-life elixir from Rapunzel's hair: she regularly sells it to the other villains. Does not directly control any land (I imagine she's somewhere in Maleficent's side of France?) but having access to this singular resource that everyone wants has made her a rich, rich woman.But Rapunzel's hair is getting less shiny every day, and the girl herself is getting paler and paler, and Gothel is afraid of what's going to happen if she doesn't manage to provide her products...
>>36003483Pretty coolThe "real world" would be the disney real world though, right? Because I'm quite sure we ain't got faeries and shit like that. Sadly. ;-;
>>36003457Glorious PC Master Race to the rescue!
>>36002578Don't you meant the savages kill John Smith and chase his friends away? :^)No but sure Radcliffe under Ratigans commands rules the colony in the northern us.Fasilier has the south and the carribean.Fasilier is a Sorcerer-King
>>36003583The Horned King would actually rule Britain, with his stronghold in Wales.
>>36003583>CinderellaFirst featured in "Lo cunto de li cunti", written by an italian soldier. Let us say that it's Italy.
>>36003608The Real World is basically the place where Aladdin, Tarzan and the other "normal" heroes live.Shit, if I'm adding other realms, there should be Olympus there, shouldn't it?Might as well add Triton's realm as a different one, since the gate to Tartarus was hidden beneath it as well.
>>36003656But Triton is just under the sea.Under the sea.They're probably on good terms with Atlantis too. Or used to be.
>>36003656>aladdin>genies and sorcery and the Hand of Midas>"normal"
>>36003656Triton's Realm would be above Hades but under the real world, while Olympus would be over the real world but with no connection to Wonderland and Neverland?
Is somebody working on an updated territory map?
>>36003611did he lose his thumb falling off of Notre Dame
Reminder that Triton and Hercules are cousins.
>>36003637>>36003583>>36003502>>36003268>Horned King rules Britain>The sun never sets on the British Empire.Mother of god, he could go full Skeletor.
>>36003502Don't we already have Cruella and Ratigan operating in Britain? And tecnically Ratcliffe and Clayton work for this guy.That's quite the jump in quality considering how unknown he is to the public at large.
>>36003801>Hercules as He-Man
>>36003268Mother Gothel is a MILF forever
>>36003825He's quite the no-nonsense guy.
>>36003825cruella was in france, I believealso, how the hell do we handle the wars in europe leading up to WWI?
>>36003847>>36003801Drawfag, we have another request.
While all this magical mumbo jumbo war goes on, I just have to ask one thing.Where the fuck are the other genies, and what sort of magic was the cave that the original genie was found in?
>>36003825It's possible that he got bored of being a supreme tyrant, and slowly slinked into the background, becoming a puppetmaster and allowing further British villains to come about.
>>36002872I assume it's a general fantasy pastiche where that kind of thing is glazed over.
>>36003911The other genies are probably in fantastic floating cities.....as for the cave, if The Fisherman and the Jinni is any indication, then it's likely that it was some sort of punishment for the genie. His crime? We'll never know.
>>36003893Power struggles? I mean, as long as Grimhilde can rhyme, she's got the most powerful intelligence service there is. The Horned King has the Black Cauldron. Maleficent's an extremely powerful and petty fae. Chernabog's a damn god of evil.
>>36004031Suicide is a sin, you know.
>>36003895Oh, and Jasmine's tiger as Battlecat.
>Villains VictoriousEdgar kills the cats, gets dosh, doesn't go to Timbuktu, and otherwise becomes helpful neutral NPC.What happens to all the minor characters? Side-kicks? The Sultan's Captain of the Guard for example.
>>36004088I guess he has to do something while his owner is a sex slave.
>>36002747Most voodoo spirits are chaotic neutral.
>>36003895Ok so Raja as Battlecat, Horned King as NNNNYYAAAAA and Hercules as He-man? Give me a bit, I'm actually stepping out
Narnia is a post-rapture, hell-ravaged landafter aslan and all the good men and animals left for the land-across-the-sea, the combined forces of evil (I don't quite remember who they were off the top of my head) ravage the landscape while the heathens and evil men run from ungoliant-esque protomonstrositiesall attempts to invade it have been Pyrrhic at best (some hold lands, but they're constantly seiged and barely hold out).rumors abound of aslan returning to kill all the evil shit, but so far they've been rumors at best. many villains have vowed to close all the narnian gates to prevent any sort of "good" from ruining their evil paradise, and fight against those who seek to control the gates.
>>36004116>captain of the guard>villainHe was protecting the public from a thief. He was just doing his job.>>36004294>narnia>disney
Are we including villains from the Aladdin, Tarzan and Little Mermaid tv series?
>>36004318disney owns the movie rightsthey haven't made any past prince caspian, but I read the whole series so what the hell>>36004367like whom?
>>36003483Going by certain villains are Sorcerer-Kings a la Darksun.The green area around Grimhilde etc is their domains as shown in the works they're in.They look fine, but they are horrible outside the city walls.Thoughts on a NotFrance that is very religious and led by Frollo? A non sorcerer dominated realm in Not Eurasia.Ratigan has his colonial england and Radcliffe is claiming the Americas for him.
>>36004382They did the Dawn Treader, m8. It was shit, but it's thereIf I'm not mistaken the Silver Chair is gonna come in a couple years
>>36004116The Captain knuckles under to Jafar, I'm sure. Gurgi lives out the rest of his days in whatever patch of wilderness the Horned King doesn't pay attention to. LeFou somehow gets laid.
>>36004382Mirage, Evil Manta, Queen Lahttp://disney.wikia.com/wiki/The_Legend_of_Tarzanhttp://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Aladdin_(TV_series)http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid_(TV_Series)#Original_characters
>>36004390Look, could you give me the skinny of what Darksun is about? I know my Disney, but I don't know that setting.
>>36003706That's what I was thinking.Here, missing are Neverland, Wonderland (connected to the Real), and the Other Side (somewhere far away). I have no idea what to draw for those.Also, fuck drawing in Paint.
>>36004405I'd say a load of noble houses and what not just kowtowed to the Horned King's rule in exchange for not being horribly murdered. That's where the english villains come from.
>>36004056I didn't ask for this feel
>>36004390I can't help but think that, After Elsa has fucked EVERYTHING up in her despair, Chernabog is just going to look aside and say "Oh. Well, hello there."Just imagine it. A voice in the dark of her palaces whispering things from the shadows to her, just muttering about everything that she's lost and the little that is left.Eventually, despair would turn to anger. And then it would be just a hop skip and jump to maybe point her towards south.She might not be powerful enough on her own, but hey, it's not like Chernie cares for real. Or maybe he adds his power to the whole deal, and then.....It happens
Didn't see in the last thread so I'll bring the idea up hereIn Beauty and the beast the villain wasn't Gaston it was loneliness. So Belle decides she doesn't love the beast and escapes, Beast then finishes turning into an animal and becomes a giant wolf bull thing that would likely be protected from most minor magic since the form is caused by a true love curse.
>>36004462True enough.>>36004390Ratigan only rules the mice and rats, though. I'd say that Radcliffe answers to either the Horned King or his human puppet, but since animal societies always seem to ape the local human, there was a Ratcliffe and crew on that ship.And Walt knows how many diseases they brought with them.....
>>36004445Darksun is sort of a post apoc world. Destroyed by magic.There are two types of spellcasters, preservers and defilers, defilers is the easy way and tons of defiling magic has pretty much drained the planet to a desert.What is mostly left is a huge wasteland with some walled city states.Most of these city states are ruled by a single "sorcerer-king" and they're pretty much the only ones who do magic in the setting, they are sometimes worshipped as gods and even offer powers sort of like how gods give clerics spells.Psionics is common in the setting.A lot of races have been genocided by the sorcerer kings as part of cleansing programs that they were tasked with by their masters. I think they turned on their masters when they found out that they, the humans weren't the ones who were going to inherit the world.
>>36004593Horned King sounds like he belongs among the sorcerer kings.Ratigan took control of the rest of the NotBritish empire.He may not just be a tiny rat, but a 7feet tall skaven type of creature now.
>>36004445Here you go.>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Dark_SunThe gods are long gone, there is no more water or minerals, only burning sand and a dying sun. What remains of civilization is living under fascist city states, vying for what little resources remain. Insane and ancient sorcerer-kings rule these cities, worshiped as gods. To survive, you need to rely on what you have on hand. Most weapons and armor are either made from bone or stone or chitin, since metal is as rare as water. Magic is destructive and forbidden, since said sorcerer-kings used (and continue to use) the very life force of the planet to fuel their spells. This had led to a rising number of psychics, who use their own disciplines to do heroic deeds or become new tyrants.Also, halfling cannibals will fuck your shit up.
>>36004658>>36004820This does seem very interesting, but a fair number of villains require civilization to function, don't they?
>>36004820>>36004658TL;DR: Post nuclear apocolypse, but fantasy.>>36004710>>36004390>Britain not being an islandThat kinds of bugs me. Being a large island off the mainland instead of being on the mainland is something that defines it. Japan too.Skaven sounds cool as fuck though. Maybe all the animal villains could be twisted beastmen created by the sorcerer kings.
>>36004969Yes, so they maintain small pockets of civilization to sustain themselves.
>>36004710So how does Facilier's kingdom run? No doubt he's pledged every underling's soul to his friends on the other side, but he said himself that he can't conjure anything for himself, so he definitely needs people around. Are we looking at a little civilization that practices human sacrifice?
>>36004993I could try and whip up a NotEarth! map.
Is Alameda Slim a considerable threat?Would he just live out his life in the Ol' West as a wealthy businessman, or (especially in a setting where he'd be in competition with other villains), would he come to be the mind-controlling Warlock Lord of America?
>>36005110Go for it.
>>36005097He can't conjure anything himself, but if he kept his side of the bargain, then he still has the magic of his friends on his side. Not like he needs much elseMaybe it is more like, the souls of everybody that was in his civilization have already been promised to his friends. They're just living now and when they die, the Friends ge tto collect their souls.
>>36004993>>Britain not being an islandThere is one island britain for Ratigan since he doesn't qualify as a sorcerer-king.Madam Mim & Horned King both have their own Land Britains.I mean NotBritains.>Skaven sounds cool as fuck though. Maybe all the animal villains could be twisted beastmen created by the sorcerer kings.yeah either intentional or unintentional.Could be mutated by magic fallout.So Scar is a Lionman in charge of a Gnoll army.>>36004969>This does seem very interesting, but a fair number of villains require civilization to function, don't they?>>36005027This.But I imagine Shan Yus Dynasty may be less apocalyptic.Not quite sure what to do with Frollo, Gaston.
>>36005161>Maybe it is more like, the souls of everybody that was in his civilization have already been promised to his friends. They're just living now and when they die, the Friends get to collect their souls.I assumed that was true, but the friends are like loan sharks and maybe sometimes they get a little impatient.
>>36005097>>36005161Faciliers may be a bit in Hades & Chernabogs pockets, since they could be his friends on the other side?He's relying a bit on them, but is trying to build his own power through human sacrifice among other things.
>>36003574iirc, the styles used were based on ones popular in 1810/1840. An 1890s Little Mermaid is still very unlikely.>>36003583The landscape of Corona is based on Pomerania, and they studied Prussian and Polish culture in the late 18th century. While there are French influences, most strongly in the Rococo flavor they tried to impart, the Prussian court admired France for many years and such cultural influences are easily explained. >tl;dr Gothel is Polack or Ossi
>>36005114Damn, didn't even think about Yancy O'Del.Doesn't seem to have big aspirations for ruling as it stands, but the ability to control cows and possibly people (didn't his accomplices put earplugs in while he yodeled?) could be a really great boon.The most obvious other villain he'd clash with would be Dr. Facilier, but I haven't seen The Prinvess and the Frog in forever so I can't really make any predictions there.But he doesn't really seem outrightly evil, just a rude dude searchin' for the big bucks and disinterested in the means. Maybe he's even become some kind of anti-hero who rides into battle on a thousand-strong army of bovine slaves to save the day from the REAL evils.
>>36005229Going back up in the thread a bit, I like to think that the Friends are something else entirely. Literally nobody in the disneyverse knows what the fuck they are, and their magic is a huge case of "What in the fuck is this shit?" for everybody elseSure, the most powerful beings might be aware of where they are and some stuff like that, but in general they should have their own dimension.Nothing says that Chernabog doesn't have his own agreeiments with them behind Facilier's back, though
>>36005159>maleficent>grimhilde>gothelSo moe>James Woods Hades as That One GuyPerfect.
I assume that this thread is only concerned with core disney and not the expanded Disneyverse?
>>36005159Reminded me of this which has been discussed here before.Maybe we're discussing the game Snow White is dming.
>>36005300Bear with me for a second here.In a setting I'm writing, there is one heaven, one earth, and one hell. However, all the pagan religions are correct because they each describe different parts and denizens of heaven and hell.What if that's what the Disney afterlife worked like?
What does Jafar do with his lamp?
>>36004452added a little for ya
>>36005379I believe that the core comes first, and the expanded is fit in where it feels right.
>>36005379Pirates were brought up in the last thread.>>35976464There were talks about the possibility of Hook being a pirate lord, Hook having an edge thanks to flight and possibly even offering other pirates some fairies.And the potential to seal away Ursula.Personally I'd prefer sticking to main animated features, but whatever.
>>36005385>a large D&D party consisting entirely of young, pretty girlsTalk about your fairy tales.
>>36005379Starting with core, possibly including expanded later. I'd like to see Malcho and Queen La in ithttp://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Malcho
>>36005417That sounds pretty cool, but would they each have a Supreme Ruler or something? That would be a bit of a cop out. I like the idea of them all being sorta equal a lot though
>>36005385>that picwhat kind of players would they be?I bet Belle is a rulefag/minmaxing faggot
>>36005448The same thing Frollo does with his Phylactery.He hides that shit well enough that nobody is gonna find
>>36005468She's currently looking for loopholes to save Aurora from Snow Whites Fiat.
>>36005467The earth is divided between human cultures, and so are heaven and hell divided between pantheons.
>>36005495on an island in an egg in a duck in a pig in a deer in a forest?
>>36005509greece is also primarily ruled by cthonic deitiessome of which might even be more powerful than hades (see erebos)
>>36005522That's just ASKING for some asshole to go there and find it, man.Just put the thing with many other fake lamps with a travelling band of actors.
>>36005495What would Frollo be using for his phylactery? Something of Esmeralda's, I presume, but what specifically?
>>36005551Scarf of course
>>36005502As the really bookish one, Belle probably has the rules memorized.
>>36005549He gives it to a traveling salesman who, while having otherwise good product, is a terrible pitchman. No one believes his tales of the magic lamp.Safe.
>>36005563Seems a little flimsy for a phylactery.
>>36005551The ribbon/fabric she tied her hair withIf not, her panties.
>>36005563You want something that doesn't decay for your phylactery, but I guess there are ways to preserve cloth for centuries.
>>36005385>11 playersjesus christ
>>36005589as part of their creation they're made indestructible
>>36005584Brilliant!Just make sure the guy doesn't come accross any impressionable, naive and too honest child. Those are the ings that ruin plans.
>>36005611Not indestructible, but certainly immune to the ravages of time.
>>36005551I wouldn't doubt the value (and irony) of a cross phylactery. You would have to be retarded to try and destroy a cross in Frollo France.Also, is he pope at this point?
>>36005563How's he going to keep sniffing it if he has to lock it away where no one will ever find it?Wait, do liches even have a sense of smell?
>>36005642>popeYOU THINK TO SMALL, HERETIC!
>>36005577Yeah, but not with perfect recall.>She hears bullshit>wait a minute, that doesn't make sense according to...>starts looking it up
>>36005652>Implying just his memory boner wouldn't make him hallucinate with her smell every time he touched the thing
>>36005589>>36005603>>36005652Fine.Her hipbones.Btw when did Frollo become a lich?
>>36005694When we remembered that most of these characters are not contemporaries of each other.>>36002872>>36002950>>36003611
>>36002950Fanatical Frololite inquisitorsthink Torqumarda from Nemisis the warlock
>>36005694His "god" gave him Esmeralda.Turns out that his "god" was Chernobog.
>>36005694He is comes back from the grave, resurrected by insert faction here. The people take it as a message from god and he becomes an unliving saint.>>36005743and this
>>36005110>>36005129'Ey, ah, which wunna you bozos ordered da shitty NotEarth map! Coz I goddit 'ere! You wan' any mustard?
Lich-Pope Frollo added.Since Chernabog won in his story and defeated God, Frollo had to turn to desperate measures to save NotFrance.
So let us recapitulate>Frollo runs France as a theocracy with an iron fist, ruling for years upon years upon years. The tales of the Chosen of the Gods, he who does not die, for he is the one to rule. >The Savannah is in a near constant state of drought, with hyenas and starving animals roaming. The Scarred Lion is the most feared beast of all, although he seems to only lurk inside his own lair>The Seas are the no-man's-land. Chaotic waves and humongous storms, controlled by the Witch-Queen Ursula, who wields a power equal to the Gods. Only the Pirate Lords can navigate safely, and some say they'd rather take their chances with the storms.>New Orleans, the Necropoli. The people go about their lives with souless eyes, and the shadows dance on the night. Dark Magic seeps from every corner, and the inhabitants live a half life. In the city of the Shadow Man, the phrase "Afraid of his own shadow" takes a much darker meaning
>>36005816>Africa isn't as big as EurasiaOf course this is perfect as a Disney Earth.
>>36005832Don't forget how the only other way to pass the sea is by paying the guy who stole Atlantean tech and is using it in his plans to conquer the world.
>>36002872>Frollo>VillainThe gypsies were the real villains, anon. The entire movie, Frollo is trying to get the guard to find and arrest the massive criminal underworld of gypsies that have taken root in Paris.One hot gypsy happens to show up in the movie, suddenly the gypsies are the good guys and Frollo is suddenly the bad guy, everyone assumes he's delusional, and just a big meanie. Just because everyone wants to bang Esmerelda.Well a little later in that movie and what do we find? Our "heroes" stumble upon the actual secret gypsy hideout, in a burial tomb no less. This is where all the gypsy thieves and murderers assemble to plan their next crimes and divide their loot. Their first reaction is to brutally murder these two innocent people. Only Esmerelda, the queen of the cocktease, is able to stay their executions.The gypsies in The Hunchback of Notre Dame are pickpockets, cutthroats, seductresses, whores, trespassers, defilers of sacred places, tax dodgers, murderers, and undoubtedly in LEAGUE WITH THE DEVIL!!Frollo was perhaps overly zealous in his dealings with others and in the performance of his duty to safeguard the people of Paris from the scourge of lawlessness and heresy. But he is without any doubt, justified in his suspicions and actions to put down a powerful and insidious criminal cult.
>>36005870What implications are you implying, anon?
>>36005888SO SAYS PONTIFEX FROLLO!FORWARD BROTHERS! THE TIME FOR THE PURGING HAS COME!
>>36005832On the coast, the Horned King denies mankind of art, lore, magic and technology, making himself the true keeper of secrets that he made secret.To the east of the Horned King, a mad witch, a spiteful fey and a vain queen war against each other.Further east is a surprisingly fertile mountain range ruled by a malevolent old bitty, and further still the fierce Shu dynasty.South of these kingdoms but north of the Lion's lands is a vast desert ruled over by a djinn tyrant.
>>36005936All hail Pontifex Frollo Infinitatus! Frollo ∞!
>>36005984>There is nothing on the coast, except empty lives. Progress, art, inovation, all of that has been sealed away. Those that wander there are forced to be alive, without anything to live for.>Deeper into the continent, the Forest of Lights awaits. Illusions, trickery, madness and bizarre powers roam amongst the trunks. The laughter of a mad witch who sings about suffering and disease measures itself against the quiet hate of a fairy of shadow can fire, and the machinations and bitterness of the Beautiful Mad Queen. Nothing escapes her sight, for the whole world is as clear as a mirror to her. She cares not about anything beyond her domains, of course.>Go not to the east. The mountains are alluring and promise safety, but the malevolent shadow that controls them is anything but. There is nothing to the east, anyway; the dinasty that broke the Wall controls everything. Their savagery is only not within us because they have decided to stick to their territory for millennia, and there are no tales of anyone getting in or out, ever.>Speak not of the desert, for there is only evil. The sands tremble with the power of the Red Djinn, and they all live to serve him within the infinite sands. With one hand he produces sandstorms, and with the other he parts the earth. No, child. Speak not of the desert.
>>36005888A true man of god would have let the gypsies live so that they would still have a chance to repent.
>>36006132Oh, and let's not forget the fiery hell-god of the southern coast, the dark, ominous hell-god of the north and the crazed ice queen.
>>36005901Well, if you're going by the movies, apparently Africa is full of talking animals.
>>36006201Fire is a kind of repentance.
>>36006138He's a justice minister, not a priest. His job is to punish the criminal and the sinner, not redeem them. They have to pay for their crimes on earth while they're still on earth.Or do you not believe in law and order?
>>36006194>Rosencrantz and Guildenstern
>>36006224In the middle ages, pain was viewed as a type of penance.
>>36006304PAIN IS WEAKNESS LEAVING THE BODY!
>>36006194>Rosencrantz and Guildenstern... how the fuck have I never realized this?
>>36002469fuck yes new thread
>>36006353Where?>>36006355I think you may be in the wrong thread
There needs to be a tier list or power level ranking for the villains
>>36006406Ursula, Hades and Chernabog are probably highestMaleficent, Grimhilde and the Horned King nextGothel and Frollo nextThen Tremaine, Scar, etcetera.
>>36006181 I'm having too much fun with this. >The only seas that are not within Ursula's commands are arguably worse, those near the southern coast. The seas boil with serpents and monsters. Sacrifices and offerends are to be made daily to the Titans so that they spare the lives of mortals the wrath of Gaea. And you can hear the sounds of the departed, child; for up tin the highest mountain, there sits the Fiery God Hades. Above, on his throne, he observes all of the universe, and below it, the depths of the Underworld seep into the mortal realm. Beasts that should be no longer alive roam freely, for he says so. And to him belongs, above everything, the Realm of the Dead.>North. The land of cold. Going north and to the east....I don't know, child. Nothing but darkness. I have never found a soul who knows what is there; maybe the Mad Queen knows. I don't, however, and it disturbs my soul. The only thing that comes from the dark and the cold is the laughter, the mad laughter of The Dark God. Let us not speak any longer.>And to the north and to the west....Ah. The Frozen Kingdom. There is nothing but cold and death in there now; once, the Ice Queen walked as any other, but not anymore. Her people are frozen in an eternal ice, and the snowfall never stops. She walks the frozen streets talking to the frozen people and weeping in despair. And every day, the ice inches closer to the rest of the world. She was driven mad by her own curse, and her despair shall eventually bring the cold to everything else.
>>36006406Triton!Ursula, Chernabog, Hades and Genie!Jafar at the top
>>36006455I'd bump Maleficient up a step, put jafar on the top tier and then move down Grimhilde a step.Anyways depending on which world we're building on we can adjust their powerlevels a bit.
>>36006455We don't know what level of power the 'friends on the other side' actually have, presumably quite high
>>36006463I prefer Arrendale to be the last bastion of light under Hans
>>36006336I thought everyone knew that The Lion King was Hamlet for kids.
>>36006493Don't forget Disney's space bad guys
>>36006367no i mean this is a new thread i went to sleep in the middle of the last thread last night
>>36006463You know, Elsa can make living snow creatures, right? If she really wanted to, and went crazy enough, she could make all sorts of horrible icy abominations out of her frozen subjects.Imagine that, if you will. The pale, or black from frostbite corpses of people going through a hideous mockery of daily life, unaware (or perhaps all to aware if you want to go that direction with it) of the horrific nature of their existance
>>36006500Who do you think is telling those stories, nigga? They're underground in the snow Kingdom. The old fart telling the youths what has happened to the world is one of the trolls, doing it while the rest of the village goes about its business.
>>36006500>I prefer Arrendale to be the last bastion of light under HansHans inherited the kingdom in Tangled since Goethel has Rapunzel trapped and harvests her hair.I like the idea fro the last thread that she travels between the different cities and sells the very precious magical hair to others to keep them immortal and young.
How do the villians communicate with each other and organize?A global system, and its puppetmaster is pic related.
>>36006542They send messengers.That's what PCs do at times.You're in Agrabah and you're hired as mercenaries for a trade caravan, you also have a message to deliver from Jafar to Hades
So the two major forces in the world are the two dark gods, Hades and Chernobog, yes? It seems that their rise to power could easily be what tipped the balance in the favor of villainy as a whole, and I'd imagine that many of the villains are enthralled to them in some way.
>>36006498You know how in Mutants and Masterminds, Trigon and Galactus have a Power Level of X?Or how in World of Darkness, the book gives no stats for Caine, only stating that anyone who fights him will lose?That's the kind of power we're talking here.
>>36006542Magic, probably. Grimhilde has mirrors, Facilier has shadow messengers, Maleficent has her ravens, Scar has birds, the Horned King has Gwythaints, so on and so forth.>The Horned King>The Scarred King>The Shadow King>The Djinn King/Serpent King>The King-of-Night>The King-of-Death>The Fairest Queen>The Sea Queen>The Faerie Queen>The Ice Queen
>>36006591Well, you also have the Titans Hades released which are wrecking the world. The old Olympian pantheon is now locked in Tartarus. There are probably other godlike beings in Wonderland or Neverland, and the Other Side is apparently where the Voodoo deities reside. And I think Triton counts as a god, even though he's MIA.Are there any more gods in the Disneyverse?
>>36006639>The Undying Pontifex
>>36006542>Some people tried to flee the world entirely, escaping into an imaginary universe of their own creation. >Even within their dreams made flesh, they were not safe.
>>36006713What about the Blue Fairy?
>>36006713Triton is Poseidon's son, though, so he's probably weaker. I also have trouble believing that Hades wouldn't connive his way in to resealing the Titans, since they usurp his power.
>>36006639Is Shere Khan counted in there? Or the guys from Mulan or Atlantis?Ratigan is the Rat Prince of Crime.
>>36006716how many times i gotta say it. Frollo's not a villain.
>>36006737Cinderella's fairy godmother? She's pretty low on the divine food chain.One thing I'd like to point out: Djinn were created by Allah as creatures that were less than angels but more than men.
>>36006776The Huns formed their own dinasty where China used to beI don't think their leader, Shan Yu or something, could become immortal though.
>>36006776>Ratigan, Rat Prince of Crime vs Scar, Lion King of the Savannah
>>36006776As a lover of both Atlantis and Mulan, I would really like it if they were included. Mulan, being a roughly medieval sort of setting can be easily slotted into place, though Atlantis might be harder.
>>36006639>>36006716>>36006776>Pontifex Immortalis>The Yellow-Eyed Emperor>The Pirate-Lord of the Sky>The Tiger King>The Leopard Queen>The Horned King's Consort (Couldn't think of another role for Madam Mim)>The World's Greatest Criminal Mastermind>The World's Greatest Hunter>Cruella de Vil, Mistress of Haute Couture>The Old Serpent>The Lady-in-the-Tower>The Pumpkin KingNeed to think of good epithets for Radcliffe, the atlantis guy and Yzma
Wait wait wait, hold the fuckin' phone.What are the spirits doing during all this? The ones from Mulan and Pocahontas, aren't they supposed to be protectors?>>36006796He's still the one rulling, and rule cool dictates he is now a lich. So give him the god damn title
>>36006542he's in the distant-future like AUTOthey both went back in time because reasons?
>>36006815the chinese were obsessed with finding a potion of immortalitywho says they huns can't continue the tradition? they even succeed because of deus ex machina
>>36006455I'd second that except maybe with djinn-Jaffar in second or third tier
>>36006843>he is now a lich>Pontifex Immortalis>rule of cool... I accept.
>>36006842>>The Pumpkin Kingshit... where does holloweentown fit into all of this?
>>36006796A good guy who goes too far certainly counts as a villain.>Shere KhanThe Prince of Terror? Everyone in the movie was certainly afraid of him.>Shan YuThe Usurper Emperor
>>36006843>What are the spirits doing during all this?Got eaten by the Other Side.
>>36006851when the villains won, they created such a dense concentration of evil that they created a kind of black hole that pulled through time instead of space
>>36006843>What are the spirits doing during all this?Pocahontas' either got chopped down by Radcliffe, weaponised by the angry natives or something'd by Facilier.Mulan's are probably ignored by the Huns.
>>36006815Maybe you could go an undead route, or do something with the ancestral spirits and/or Mushu.>Undead, unkillable warrior Mulan.
>>36006842can we get the regular names attached, just to clarify a few of these?
>>36006842>>The Horned King's Consort (Couldn't think of another role for Madam Mim)The Witch Queen
>>36006842Radcliffe is simply 'The Hunter'
>>36006878The same place as usual. In a secluded forest in the middle of nowhere there's a ring of trees with doors, All of them save one are boarded up with ancient, in some cases rotting boards, save for one
>>36006639>Magic, probably. Grimhilde has mirrors, Facilier has shadow messengers, Maleficent has her ravens, Scar has birds, the Horned King has Gwythaints, so on and so forth.Magic Skype Calls is boring.Le them use actual messengers if they want to communicate.
>>36006918>Mulan is one of the only people that still stand up to all the evil>While every other spark of resistance has to be made by many people hiding together, she just goes at it alone with Mushu.>They can't stop her, anyway.>Not until she knows honor has been restored to her family.
Time travel is a major plot point is Cinderella 3. After the fall of Atlantis, the Victorians combined their knowledge of time magic and the power of Atlantean crystals to visit various eras directly, fulfilling many a Victorian romantic's history dreams. Unfortunately, on one of those trips, Shan Yu killed the visitors and stole the machine. He then found allies throughout the timeline and selectively altered history to ensure his immortality and dominance.But foolish princes wielding magic swords of truth have risen to oppose him. Before the final blow was struck, he hurled them into the future where his evil was law. Now they must return to the past and undo the future that is Shan Yu.
>>36006937Eh, bit too Clayton. Maybe the Prospector?>>36006920FrolloShan-YuFlying Captain HookShere KhanQueen LaMadam MimRatiganClaytonObviousKaaGothelOogie Boogie, who we could also make Santa Claus.
>>36007016oh, dang, I got those two mixed up...'Gold Hound' then?
>>36006842The Atlantis Guy is Lyle Tiberius Rourke>The Mercenary>The Treasure Hunter>The Man with the Crystal>The Crystal Woman's Keeper>The Plunderer>The Pillager>The Empire's Bane>The Antiquarian>The Man from Atlantis
>>36006526>elsa as lich>phylactery hidden in capital where its cold, antarctica cold>controls undead legion ala the scourge>hurls mind controlling blizzards at bordering kingdoms>said kingdoms suffer from cancerous cultist movements that spring up every winter>primary exports include flesh-N-ice golems, sentient viral snowflakes that turn victims into frozen aberrations, and other stuff>populated mainly by pissed off spirits and ghosts who like the cold.
>>36003656Is the "real" world connected to the live-action world of Enchanted?
>>36003611 Consider the following
>>36007100Why would Elsa be a lich?I can see Frollo, but I'd think that Elsa would just want to die after everything went fucked up for her after Anna's death and her kingdom froze forever
>>36007100, I really like those ideas, but I'm sort of inclined to make Elsa less a villain on the world stage and more like what >>36006463 suggests: a lonely, mad ice queen ruling over a country that only she can live in along with her frozen subjects and her snow golems. She tries to keep everyone away, and just wants to be left alone with her failure and her people. If the players could only manage to heal her heart, a tiny bit, she might actually be an ally, and a strong one.
The Horned King overthrew King Richard, and banished John to Naboombu, where he lost what little sanity he had left.
>>36007100>>36007172I don't quite see her being a lich, but at the same time I do see her as one of those beings who is cursed to never the release of death.Mind control stuff sounds like bull. The closest she might get is freezing people to death and then trapping their souls into corpse-ice monsters.
>>36003268this>>36003340>>36003268The Horned King ends up as somebodies subordinate. Likely Maleficent's or Hades'
So can we assume that Arrendelle might be the only place that is NOT corrupted by sickening ammounts of evil, but is just full of shit because Elsa has gone mad with despair?I think it is nice to think. Nobody else wants to rule what is essentially neutral territory - Hell, Chernabog is the neighbor and he isn't there. That must mean that Elsa's magic is some Elder Level shit.And this is how the world would start to change? The party would have to try to melt the Ice Queen's heart, bring the tiniest ammount of hope to that land, and so they may have something to hope on if they want to change the world
>>36007221If we want to connect the plots, King Richard wasn't always an animal.Blame Madam Mim for his transformation.Then they tried to go on a crusade to get rid of the curse, and their target was Jafar.
>>36007242I don't see him being a subordinate, at least not knowingly. He's not too bright, and Hades is quite cunning and charismatic, so he may often be a pawn in the plans of the Lord of Death.
>>36007242Eh, Horned King seems to be doing his own thing. Probably in league with Hades
>>36007300It's simple. Elsa's frost magic just rendered the place so cold that everything is frozen solid. The place is only neutral because there's nothing there but despair and ice. You can hide there, but eventually you too will succumb and walk out into the frostmourn.As for Chernabog, why would he care? That place is already devoid of life. It's ruled by a queen of despair, who will do nothing to oppose him or stand in his way. And those fools that go there hoping that they ran away from his evil? He laughs as they freeze to death, their hopes of freedom and a better life snuffed out in the ice.
>>36007300I originally posted the idea of the ice-people-golems and I didn't imagine it like the scourge but more like an Elsa driven half mad by grief trying to bring her fallen subjects back to life using her powers of snow based life making.They're not evil or zombies, just not very good at being normal people, as they were brought to life by somebody who hadn't seen her subjects since she was like, 8.A grim, and sad reflection of the queen on her kingdom. An entire people reduced to little more than icy puppets playing house.
>>36007306Madam Mim and the Horned King are in cahoots. Those houses that swore fealty to the Horned King were allowed to keep their land - Clayton, Radcliffe, Wendy, Cruella de Vil, Alice, etcetera, are descendants of these houses. Those that didn't were either exterminated or transformed into animals.Perhaps the Horned King managed to get his hands on the once-lost Sword in the Stone dipped it into the Black Cauldron, and now it resurrects those it kills
>>36005454 Just like Star Wars used to be !
>>36007398>>36007418>End of the first campaign>The party is almost frozen. The cold has bitten and teared through their cloaks, capes, jackets, skin, down to their bones.>One by one, they fall down on the snow in front of the Ice Queen's palace. She stands there, looking at them. Her face is frozen in an apathetic, despairing look that hasn't changed in so long.>The last one still tries to stutter out words. They reach her, but her heart is frozen.>He comes close, and puts something in her hand>"S-she wouldn't....Want you....To forget....">As he falls, Elsa looks at what it is>A small, tattered picture of her sister and a small brooch which belonged to them.>The thump of the body hitting the snow is muffled by the sound of the snowstorm, and everything goes white.>Seconds, minuts, or hours pass. Nobody knows. But eventually, something that is not frozen or cold runs down Elsa's face, and keeps coming. Tears.>The snowstorm slowly dies, and the loaded, icy clouds part just enough for the sun to shine through for the first time in who knows how many decades.> "It's....Warm."
>>36007579Speaking of which, we can easily slot that into this
>>36007300>>36007398>>36007418Right. I like the idea that Arrendell is not an evil place, but is a place that has become utterly devoid of hope and warmth, ruled over by a queen driven mad through loneliness and despair. Not evil, and not completely and utterly beyond saving.
>>36006639>>36006842>The Bard King of the Frontierc-come on let Home on the Range be a real movie just this once
A lot of talk about the villain from the most forgettable disney movie
>>36005984>a malevolent old bitty,MMM?
Wait, shouldn't the victorious villain for Frozen be Hans?
>>36007657Frozen was more a movie with multiple half-villains. Elsa works better for the tone of this setting.
>>36007646Hey, he's the only bit worth remembering. Mostly because he was voiced by John Hurt and looked evil as sin.
>>36007657Between a mainly normal, kind-of-a-jerk-but-not-all-that-bad usurper and a crazed Ice Sorceress Queen, I think the second is more interestingSeiously, Hans was just...Not that vilain-y, even
>>36007646But nobody is talking about Sykes.
>>36006838Atlantis, under the rule of the immortal President-For-Life Rourke, is- surprisingly- one of the last bastions of relative freedom in the world. Protected by its shields and the thread of MAD, it has become a safe haven for refugees. It's extremely militarized; loyalty to the President and military service are rewarded with the immortality crystals, reinforcing the regime. Its armed forces are essentially mercenaries, capable of turning the tide of any battle with their Atlantean weaponry, and the President-For-Life's rule is dictatorial at best, but at least he's human, and joining the mercenaries- or becoming one of their camp followers- is a better life than most.
>>36007657Technically yes, but he's more of an opportunistic villain who feels slightly less fun than an Ice Queen driven mad with grief.
>>36007697Uh...Shark Tale was Dreamworks, dude.
>>36007708Exactly.The villain from Oliver & Company.
>>36006181Dear God, I see Mulan marrying the Hun in order to further unite her people against the forces of Chernabog and the Horned King, who was forced into Chernabog's servitude after being forcibly expelled by the Fey and the Witch-kind of the West.The Hunnic Dynasty just barely stands against the apocalyptic forces of the Cauldron Born, while Hades, Jafar and Elsa wage war against Chernabog.The Great Devil could be put down, if only those spiteful women of the West would get their shit together and join forces with the current three.
>>36007646The Black Cauldron might have been a forgettable movie, but its source material (The Prydain Chronicles) was a pretty good series of novels. Not to mention that Annuvin, one of the characters that the Horned King is a composite of, is basically a Welsh Sauron Medium-Light.
>>36007688Also, his magic cauldron dissolves peoples' skin and then animates their skellingtons. He's pretty hardcore.
>>36007721Oh, this is fun: hybrid Atlantean/WWI Era technology, hybrid Atlantean Temples/WWI Fortifications. Golems and mecha, stone and steel, magic and technology.
>>36006993>But foolish princes wielding magic swords of truth have risen to oppose him. Before the final blow was struck, he hurled them into the future where his evil was law. Now they must return to the past and undo the future that is Shan Yu.no
>>36007721>>36007818Perfect. That first post even has it emulating the "armed neutrality" and isolationism of turn of the century America. I bet it's also a major source of annoyance for Ursula too, being one of the few Ocean-based places left and basically flipping a giant crystal powered neon middle finger to her constantly.
>>36006993Well fuckin' done, mate
>>36007646The Black Cauldron was from an era of Disney Darkness.When they were okay with giving some kids nightmares.
>>36007783I think in the movie it just animated skeletons that were lying around. It didn't animate corpses thrown into it like in the books, and the books didn't reduce the corpses to skeletons.
>>36007885Yo, drawfag, you still there?Because that's some good shit
There's ONE villain that's been left unmentioned in these threads... ONE canon that throws this entire setting into disarray.
>>36007721he is probably both racist as hell, yet actually accepts just about any human.....who survives the trip...
>>36007936But that's not owned by Disney
>>36007936are we doing anything that's not pure 2d?
>>36007721>>36007818>>36007885What of Princess Kidagakash? I know that her being fused with the Heart of Atlantis was meant to kill her eventually, but it's more fun if she is still conscious and aware, and she works through whispers and golems and is a subversively stabilizing force working within Rourke's regime and his Grand Temple/R&D Department.
>>36007975Well, Frozen and Tangled are technically 3D....Or some sort of 2.5D
>>36007753Must say, I'm having trouble seeing petty, 'No invite? Sleep forever!' Maleficent; murderous 'I'm the Prettiest!' Grimhilde and Mad Madam Mim ever joining up. I'd hate to see what would happen if you threw them a golden apple.
>>36007996as soon as she learns whats out there, hell, she will probably help himIn this setting, Rourke's desire for militarization isn't even villainous. Hell, he probably told Milo that this was the only Human force with may have harnessed magic as technology.He's a rough man, but he would be the right one.
Swiss Family Robinson: The family suffered a tantrum spiral as the son tried to find one pet too many. Your goal is to explore the island ruins.
>>36007946"Yes, white men are better than the Negroes and the Asiatics. But all men, no matter their color, who have the courage to come to this bastion of Freedom are far and away better than the men and inhuman beasts that lurk on the mainland."-Imperial President Lyle Rourke, President's address to Congress on Executive Order 228(Opening of Atlantis to Refugees)
>>36008022>Merlin what the shit>Merlin they almost joined up>Merlin, the three guardian witches, and three good fey almost had them convinced.>Merlin why?
>>36008010I think we're only interested in purely animated stuff.So how does Turbo play into all of this?
>>36007918There's a deleted 2spooky scene where it strips some poor fellow to the bone and makes him Cauldronborn.
>>36008080>implying Merlin hasn't already been sealed away forever by Nimue
>>36008071can I retroactively hire you to write my speeches for communications class?
>>36008071Yep. Fun Fact:Negro was the official governmental classification up until very very recently, and literally no offensiveness was taken by the term.It was a neutral descriptor. In certain contexts, it still is.But yeah, that's basically it.
>>36008134That's why I picked it. For a man from 190X it would simply have been the proper term to use for a person of African descent.
>>36008134White black, yellow, red, the only colors that really matter to Rourke are money green and electric fire blue.
>>36007866I wrote that whole post just so I could do that.
>>36008174NOw, then he would hook up with that blonde chick, have a kid or two, but then she leaves him because he cheated with that mechanic girl. A fling but still.They still talk though. For the kids.>>36008210I only said no because Im too lazy to look for a pic. I have too damned many.>>36008203<<
>>36008134>>36008174I think the world would be better if we could all get together and compile a list of racial terms that we would henceforth consider neutral.And maybe this makes me just another whiskey-selling white devil, but I think that the Aboriginals of Canada and the USA should adopt/accept 'Injuns'. It's distinctive, short and catchy.
we're on autosage again, I doubt the thread will last the night
>>36008245>NOw, then he would hook up with that blonde chick, have a kid or two, but then she leaves him because he cheated with that mechanic girl. A fling but still.I'd go along with that, though I might change it to him developing an unhealthy obsession with the Krystal Kida and the power she possesses instead of a fling with Audrey.
>>36008290Damn. We're just tearing right through these posts.
>>36008290Good thing the thread's already been archived. See you tomorrow then?
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I propose that in the next thread we go in a little deeper on what's going on with the different parts of the world and how it would be possible to run campaigns in that settingEven if the world has gone to shit there has to still be some sort of chance for heroes to arise around the world, right?Except under Chernabog's and Facilier's rule, because one just straight up binds your soul to demons on the other side the moment you become a citizen, and the other one.....Is The Dark Lord Of The Dark Lands™
>>36002848That and Shere Khan slays Mowgli and reks the villages.Bagheera remains, though. In the books, ain't nobody what fucks with Bagheera.
>>36008485And let's not forget that the Horned King is an understudy of Sauron that sucks man dry of all his wonders.
>>36008485Very reasonable. Agreed.
>>36008485Of course there's place for heroes.We made the Disney version of Athas, after all.
>>36008516Before this thread ends, though, I have to askWho the bloody hell is the Horned King? I haven't seen the movie with him, was he from the Black Cauldron?>>36008534Athas?
>>36008550yeah, he's the guy who owned the Cauldron and dumped skellingtons in it to make an army
>>36003695I see what you did there anon
>>36008550It's also fair to mention that he's a composite of 2 characters from the Prydain series: the actual Horned King, who is just a Warband-leader of Annuvin, and Arawn Death-Lord, ruler of Annuvin, the Mordor analogue.>One does not merely stride into Annuvin....
>>36008513Well, Kaa does because he's the baddest motherfucker in the jungle. In the books, anyway. Can we go ahead with making DVV Kaa closer to his book form?
>>36003643Mother of God...
>>36006851or, ignore the futuristic disney villains in this setting, they get their own futuristic setting all to themselves. Ala Bladerunner/Shadowrun etc.
>>36008513Shere khan, inspired by the monkey, cuts a deal with jafar to become a rakshasa. However, ja far also changes bagheera, just to be a dick
>>36008725I think that taking the character closer to their literary origins is going to be a good strategy for pretty much every villain.
>>36003695Atlantica is probably an outpost of the old Atlantean empire.
>>36005453What is the Other side?
>>36008773The dimension where Dr. Facilier's friends are from. You know, the voodoo guys.Ain't nobody wanna fuck with the Other Side
>>36004044> Cauldron-Born>In te trenches of France>Fighting Goblins and enslaved DwarvesFUCKING FUND IT.
>>36008773where the Other Things live from the recent Princess and Frog movie
>>36004399They sold Narnia to Fox.
Korso double crosses everyone and gets the titan for himself. Becomes rich selling planets for multiple races in the galaxy.
I made a thingSorry for potato cropping
>>36008873Who's this guy?
>>36008874>land of the bear....okay, I don't recognize that one.
>>36008961Brave, with the young princess that couldn't princess very well
>>36008874I think Italy needs an area for Pontifex Immortalis.
>>36008999italy and/or france
>>36008874I agree with this guy >>36008999 and his trips.ALL HAIL THE PONTIFEX
>>36008987Ah.Also, Frollo's theocracy needs to dominate France and what the hell is Agrabah doing in Spain and Portugal?
I know we're focusing mostly on 2D but what about this universe?
>>36009047I guess we're assuming that Christendom never came to those areas and the Muslims that were there before just stayed
>>36009058Well, it's certainly an interesting canon to include....not sure how though.
>>36009058Not disney, is it? Or am I wrong?In any case, they're probably too busy sealing deals with Nightmare Town to interefere much.Jack Skellington is now rich as all balls tho
>>36009058>>36009086Monsters are enslaved or otherwise coerced into becoming slaves and soldiers in armies?
>>36009058I doubt they'll be getting the screams they need. After all, when your overlord has an army of skeletons, or has sold your soul to shadow demons, or will kill you for being too pretty, or you are an underling of the literal god of night, Sully ain't going to cut it.
>>36009086instead of being harmless scares, they're the stuff of nightmares, kidnapping children and terrifying them for a night, then returning them--or sometimes not.maybe invaded by Chernblog to make this happen
>>36009104Oh man, Jack must be a legend to the Scarers of the real Monsters universe
>>36008874I can imagine Ursula and HK arguing about the Isle of Man>I want the Isle of Man, dammit!>WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT THE ISLE OF MAN>WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU
>>36009112Would people in the areas ruled by whats-her-name develop a culture of self-mutilation and scarification to ensure they can never be too beautiful?
>>36007775I was so pissed off about how much they changed in that film. The entire point of Drynwyn was that you needed to have noble worth instead of a bloodline.
>>36009152The Queen Grunhilde? Didn't they use that as a plot point in the Snow White and Huntsman (should've just made a Witcher movie)?
>>36006842Radcliffe, Trader-Prince of Virginia
>>36008710The awesome thing about Arwan as a villainious dark lord was that he was not a general/overlord, but a trickster.
>>36006896>mfw The Black Hole is canon.
>>36006993So Shan Yu is a twisted combination of Vandal Savage and Aku?I'll take ten.
>>36009362I remember reading the novelization. Surprisingly good.
ok, we need a new thread, this one's sinking fast
>>36009504I'm for bed, but you all have my hearty endorsement and encouragement in continuing. For the next thread, I might suggest a nice summary of the setting thus far, and the aims of the project.Good luck gentlemen and women!
>>36008999>TRIPS WILLS ITAny more suggestions?
>>36009574This guy knows what's up.>>36009587Save that map and use it for the header iamge on the next thread?Maybe do it tomorrow since it's getting pretty late, but yeah.Also, good job, now this is looking good. Will you do the Americas?
>>36009587Well, in central africa I'd put Queen La's kingdom, but the rest is mostly in the new world and the rest of Asia.>>36009627NEW THREAD
>>36009624I'll see what I can find, map wise. The CK2 was an easy pick for Europe
>>36009638I was looking for someone to put in West Africa. The Pridelands that far west was a bit of a stretch.
>>36007694For good reason. As last thread explained, he was only made the villain at the last second.