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I'll be the first to admit that mistakes were made. Before the session started, I had undergone a 40 hour vidya binge with a good friend. I should have called it off. Rescheduled. But no, I went through with it. Because what kind of GM would I be if I wasn't there for my group? A GM that wouldn't have ended up in this situation, that's what.

To make a long story short, a realm was opened and it was quite magical. Or maybe it doesn't count as a magical realm. Because the response has left me baffled and unsure of what to do. Things have quite spiraled out of control, I think. I'm playing with fire and it feels like it's in my lap but I'm afraid to look down.

To make a short story long, let me tell you about how the party came to encounter Madam Tricella's Travelling Loli Brothel.

>it is late
>at this point, I am become caffeine, warder of sleep and jitterer of limbs
>the party (elven cleric, human ranger, half-orc rogue, dorf bard)has spent the last four and a half hours just rolling lazily through town, cleaning up some random goblins
>I have dropped some very subtle quest hooks in the form of rumors about a strange cult in a town to the north
>subtle like pink-winged mountains with lisping voices that fly to and fro through the air
>but the party is not having it
>or they just want to get a job done right
>even though the mayor told them that just kicking a few goblin asses would be more than enough
>no, we pro goblin exterminators now
>and so we go
>and the longer we go, the more I feel like I might start railroading
>or better yet, tie them to railroads
>with unbreakable magic bonds
>but no
>GM pride won't let me
>if only my GM pride had latched onto more than one thing I wouldn't do
>because I find myself thinking
>wuzzat thing /tg/'s always talking about that players hate
>oh yeah, fetish stuff
>and sleep deprived me hatches a plot
>maybe if I toss some fetish stuff at 'em, they'll leave
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I will stay just to see how bad this turns out
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What is it with Japan and pedos?
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>>35703690
>>maybe if I toss some fetish stuff at 'em, they'll leave
I'm sure this sounded fantastic at the time.
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>>35703690
>>maybe if I toss some fetish stuff at 'em, they'll leave
That's so dumb, I can still make fun of you for it even if you were tired as fuck and addled by caffeine.

Either your making shit up, or you're retarded. Which one is it OP?
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You have my attention.
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>>35703690
My party wants to do something, so instead of one of the most hated things to do, railroading, I think I'll just force them into my magical realm! What were you thinking, op?

>>35703727
I know people love shitting on Japan, but Columbus wrote that 9 and 10 year old native girls were the most desired sex slaves.
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>I'm sure my brain was like, 'yo, what, no, no no no, what, no, how do you even
>but I wasn't listening
>I was a genius
>and so some haunting yet catchy tune starts to float through the air
>and it's not alone, a great big book is floating with it, a bag in tow
>and that great big book stops in the town's square, opens, and starts dropping rhymes
>I'm not sure what kind of voice I was going for but I was told later that the book sounded like John Cleese
>and what it said went something like this:
>"Hello there people, my fellows, my peers
>do me a favor, just lend me your ears
>let it be known to all within reach of this sound
>that Madam Tricella's Travelling Loli Brothel is back in town!
>Oh we've got all kinds from flat to budding
>and each single one is ripe for a raunchy good rutting
>come on down to our tent, do pull up a seat
>hell, just ask, they'll even use their feet!
>All you have to do is sign your name
>drop your coin in the bag, think nothing of shame
>Have a guiltless night and of merriment and revels
>with these darling saucy devils!
>To be fair though, a warning
>for those that would like to wake next morning
>treat these girls right to escape being ended
>by nasty means, drained of more fluids than you intended.
>but enough dark talk, come, find best of all
>in this, our sinner's festival!"
>note that this is an approximation
>I've slept for nine hours straight and still fell dead tired, details are fuzzy
>but the book said its piece and floating candles hovered in, marking off the path toward the aforementioned tent
>and my still addled self waited for the party to groan or something and move on
>I dunno what I was expecting, but it didn't happen
>nor did what, in hindsight, I might've expected to happen
>the party, you see, approached the book
>oh, maybe they're going to get all high and mighty and mess it up?
>then leave this lurid place in a huff?
>if only
>they each marked down their names and dropped money in the bag
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>>35703834
kudos for rhyming, I guess. Maybe they thought you put so much effort into rhyming that they were SUPPOSED to do it.
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>>35703834
I hope your cleric got a stern talking to about this later on.
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>>35703834
>It rhymed and everything
And the GM of the year award goes to...
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>>35703834
I want to have your children op.
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>>35703834
>Too tired to stop magical realm.
>Comes up with lengthy limerick.
Sure, OP.

Sounds like Cathouse Tragedy though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLGU7G-unkI
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Gots to read while I shit
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>>35703834
if that's where you stopped just have it be a sting operation and have a jailbreak or court rulings.
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>>35703910
I think hes continuing
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>>35703910
I trust that op isn't english and can think about sexing a loli without being jailed.
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>>35703917
Part of me hopes he's continuing. This has to be the most "it's so bad it's good" thing ever.
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This anecdote is like a glorious train wreck. It's absolutely horrible, but I can't look away.
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>>35703820
Hey your brain gets real fuzzy when its sleep deprived; maybe he thought he was having a wet dream before he woke midway and realized he was still at the table
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>>35703690
>maybe if I toss some fetish stuff at 'em, they'll leave
>>35703887
Even if you're running on three days of fumes and blinking sometimes things just roll.
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>>35703834
>It rhymes
Alright, I don't care if you're making this up or just stupid or whatever now. Continue on.
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>>35703690
I think you made it up because you are an attention whore. But continue anyway.
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>>35703834
>the book sounded like John Cleese
I can't stop laughing, please continue you rhyming devil
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>>35703834
That was beautiful op
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>>35703690
>>35703834
I CAN'T LOOK AWAY
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>>35703976
Shh storytime now

>unwholesome tympoi
Even captcha knows
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>now this is when my brain finally started to catch up
>and I got a serious case of the ohshits as it beat what little sense it could across my fatigued consciousness
>but it was too late
>I was in the soup now
>little did I know how deep and absurdly tasty it was
>all right maybe I did know how delicious but I thought that was only to me
>because my players just drank it down
>a small apology to any reading this; I won't bore you with the many and thorough descriptions of lolis in various states of little to no dress and draped in varying amounts of scents and oils
>but I rattled them off as I went through my loli folder
>so, if you have waifu'd a loli from some popular mango or animu
>it's likely that I cast her as a whore in this trainwreck of a freakshow
>so, sorry
>and still I waited for the party to trash the place
>just go wild, since they were varying degrees of good
>I mean, yeah, this brothel wasn't some terrible den of evil, but
>but come on
>and with the straightest of faces
>they each took a girl
>the half-orc took two
>thank goodness I wasn't so far gone as to forget fade-to-blacks
>lord knows what horrors might've come about then
>but blacks were faded and some rolls were made for efforts and treatments and such
>the cleric, as a sidenote, was gifted magic loli-climaxing hands by the dice gods
>and so the night went
>and what did they do when they woke up, to my half-sober half-asleep self's amazement
>they patted sleeping loli heads and demanded to see the person in charge of this establishment
>now, I thought I was ready for everything at this point
>but as I scrambled together a Madam Tricella (an aged loli vampire, if it matters), they proved that I wasn't
>because they started asking the Madam about how well-oiled this operation was
>for one, they had noticed a lack of guards
>these roads were quite dangerous, talk of strange cults in the north and all
>perhaps they could help each other out?
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>>35704030
>perhaps they could help each other out?
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>>35704030
Ahhh, they liked it. OP I'm sorry but if they head into this shit willingly then your no longer forcing a fetish, your sharing it. Might as well roll with it and do damage control
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>>35704030
I stare in horror and amusement
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>>35704030
Alright OP.
You know what to do.
They're now part of the travelling loli circus.
Get to work on loli slice of life plots.
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>>35704085
Magical realm is amazing when everyone is on-board.
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>>35704030
I hope you decided to let them join and the good Madam cast spells of lolification on them and had them join the show in full.
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>>35704030

A FINE ESTABLISHMENT MADAM, BUT ARE YOU SURE THIS BUILDING IS UP TO CODE?
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>>35704030

I've heard the argument very often that loli =/= pedophilia.

And that argument seems specious right here, with the party having buggered a handful of underage girls.

So that's horrible.
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>>35704114
>Would not risk consequences to try and get my group into dragon breeding, endo-vore, and transformation

I wish I knew that feel.
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>>35704122
No, anon. It's a slow process that will take at least two sessions.

Then he tells them
>BADEND MOTHERFUCKERS. ALL Y'ALL IS LOLI WHORES FOREVER, ROLL SOME NEW CHARACTERS.
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>>35704126
"You have an infestation of uguu in the ceiling, that won't do, and don't even get me started on the desu~ in the bathroom."
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>>35704030
You roped them into this, OP.
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>>35704147
>implying they wouldn't want to be loli whores
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>>35704162
OP could try going into graphic detail about how they're getting dicked, though I suppose there's always the danger of them liking that even more.
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>>35704132
I guess pedophiles play DnD, too.
I'm now doubly glad I switched to other games.
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So much yes.
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I might as well drop this off since it's on-topic: I finished a year-long magical realm pen and paper game recently, shit was sooo cash. They played a bunch of priestesses worshiping the fertility goddess and ended up saving the universe and everything, with the eventual outcome of their actions leading to them each having their own separate empty world to entirely repopulate.

A dimensional nexus between nine worlds becomes the site of a Fertility Goddesses’ temple, a place of care for those who are beyond mere normal pregnancies, or have no others to help care for them. Much as other sacred warriors of the gods serve through battle and heroism, they have their own ways of performing worldly works. The Fertility Goddess’s priestesses offers their services to all comers. The temple's primary functions are tending to women during their pregnancies, taking care of them for the entire duration, and also being highly specialized and magical breeders, able to carry princes/princesses for royalty, or keep weird species of monsters from going extinct.

Here's the game doc with session logs if anyone wants to see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-VcSRS2FXZP0qmz44y4UH6J6VohVwoAtGRhaZRImi1A/edit?usp=sharing
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>>35704139
E-endo vore? What does that combination of words mean? Should I know?
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>and so we ended the session with the Madam seriously considering their offer
>that fucking dorf's rolls, why
>he was in top bard form that morning
>maybe a blessing from loli lewds
>but I find myself looking toward the future with a whyboner of mixed horror and disbelief
>because I think I've somehow set in motion the Travelling Loli Brothel arc of this campaign
>may the emprah have mercy on my soul

And there you have it. They left me bleary-eyed and listening to snatches of conversation about how this might be a great opportunity. A fully-staffed and mobile base of operations, they said. They'd just run protection to start, but they were already leaping ahead. By all that is good and holy, they were excited. A fervor was in them that I'd rarely seen before. Its cause? The ramblings of an exhausted to the point of madness pervert of a GM. I'm not sure where I'm going with is or what will happen, but please, fellow GMs, don't go without sleep. Save yourselves from this strange limbo.

And of course, /tg/, I ask you: what the nether hell should I do?
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>>35704030
I don't know who a more awful example of the depths that humanity can sink to, you or your players.

Continue.
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>>35704030
Sorry guys, I want to habeeb it too, but OP is a lying sack of shit, not a storyteller. The difference? OP immediately broke my immersion when he claimed that ALL his players unanimously agreed upon the same acts of pathetic degeneracy without even discussing it amongst themselves. I'll believe that ONE player in your group just happened to be a weaboo fetishist...MAYBE two of them. But ALL of them?

>He's either lying, or he's GMing in a high scool anime club.
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>>35704189

Get these cowtits outta here, this is a flat thread.
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>>35704191
>And of course, /tg/, I ask you: what the nether hell should I do?

Well, now that we have a thread to be archived, kill the group, then yourself.
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>>35703690
i have only read the first post and i can already tell this is gonna be good
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>>35704191
It sounds like your players are into it, why not continue?
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>>35704191
My friend, the only questions you need to ask yourself is:
- Are you enjoying it?
- Are your players enjoying it?

If yes to both (and from what you said here it seems like it is so) then: ROLL! WITH! IT!
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>>35704212
>degeneracy
>immersion
>weeaboo

Well arent you the most precious little immigrant.
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>>35704212
Assume he either dig them out of a gutter or worse, found them on /tg/ and the story doesn't seem so far fetched
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>>35704191
Lolify them and have them join for reals.
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>>35704191
Roll with it
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>>35704191
Paladins come and shut the whole thing down, all of your party goes to jail or on trial and lose their good alignment.
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>>35704191
Dude, the people you play with were okay with their characters raping children. That's fucked up.
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>>35704191
Honestly. It sounds like people are having fun so meh.
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>>35703834
you are a god amongst poets anon
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>>35704190
Vore is a fetish about eating people. Tons of variety within this from hard to soft and using just about any conceivable orifice.

Endosoma is a fetish about holding someone harmlessly inside you after eating them. It's more like a hug with your stomach than 'eating'.

It's what is considered 'soft vore' where you don't rip and tear, you swallow them like a pill, and they are not suffocated/digested inside you.
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>>35704191
An order of paladins of the god of innocence and purity rolls through and stomps their shit.
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>>35703857
thats a good theory anon
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>>35704249
>Imaginary things
>Children

Is it autism day or what?
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>>35704191
flat out tell them that you're not quite sure how you all ended up there, and ask them if this is still what they want to do.

then roll with it?
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>>35704249
>They are all eighteen we swear
Yeh huh, sure they are pal
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>>35704257
How informative. Allow me to go throw up.
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>>35703971
indeed the brain is weird like that
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>>35704270
Raping imaginary children isn't fucked up?
Because I'm pretty sure that it's fucked up.
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Not OP, but can contriboot to magical realm happenings.

>15 Years ago
>Mixed age and sex Vampire the Masquerade group
>Be Brujah
>Have one of each other non sabbat clan in the group.
>Start the game at the low end of the totem pole. Staked by clan primogen and drug in for being sired without permission.
>Wind up put 5 other people, 3 of which were women.
>Right off rip, get delegated as the Malkavian's Handler. Have to keep her on a leash and collar as we travel around the city doing our thing of reinforcing the prince's rule.
>Pissed off, wind up blood bonding the Malkavian to my character.
>Next in line is the Ravnos chick.
>She has to sneak into the headquarters of DNA, a subsidiary of Pentex that is into gene splicing and what not, to hack their database.
>She triggers alarm system. The other party members are too afraid to go in. My character and the Malk go in, busting heads.
>MFW the malk strips down and fights naked, her 3 appearance enough to distract security as we rush up 10 flights of stairs to rescue the Ravnos.
>Ravnos cornered and horribly wounded/low on blood. Feeds from my Brujah in order to not frenzy or torpor.
>Throughout the next few weeks, she feeds more from my Brujah, winding up blood bound as well.
>Next stop, Toreador. Beautiful Monster type.
>Toreador is feeling left out/envious of the friendship of our three characters. We aren't being weird with it btw. We try not to. However, the Toreador can tell that something is up.
>She wants in on the plan.
>There is no plan.
>She wants in or else she is going to tell.
>Malkavian and Ravnos have to come up with a plan for there to be a plan.
>There is evidence the prince is in bed with sabbat. We are forming a resistance to his rule. Admission is being bound to my character, the leader. Of course, this is a lie, but Toreador is convinced.
>Toreador has to think.
>A week later, she demands to be bound.
>Over the next few sessions, she binds to my character.
(cont)
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>>35704262
MAGICAL GIRL PALADINS. They come and get party v&.
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>>35704281
Dude endosoma is the last thing in this thread that should cause you to throw up.
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>>35704286
I take it you don't play evil campaigns, huh?
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>>35704114
indeed it is
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>>35704286
If its a brothel and a fantasy society, it might not be rape there. Hell, they could just be halflings.
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>>35704286
They're not real, nobody is getting hurt, nothing and nobody was raped.
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>>35704180
peodophiles are in all systems anon have you seen some everyone is john games
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>>35704249
>Raping
>Brothel

Pick one. And before you staet spouting about age of consent, kindly remember 11 year old whores were perfectly legal until the nineteenth century in Western Europe.
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>>35704189
i am going to read this and i am going to stay up all night reading it if it takes that long
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>>35704286
>>35704249
I'd just like to say that there was no rape.
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>>35704290
Shit man, you had it good.

When I was that age and in a LARP they just argued that I shouldn't be in it at all, and ignored me as hard as they could.

Because of the guy with the underaged boy sex offender history.
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>mfw this thread
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>>35704323
Dude.

Dude, if you read a book where children get raped, you'd say "this is a fucked up book"

Because it's a fucked up thing thing to happen.
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>>35703690
>>35703834
>>35704030
>>35704191
You're the best. Someone, in the name of Folca, screencap this holy stuff!
Damn, it was so-o-o-o-o romantic, OP. You are a true poet, I wish my GM was even half as awesome and magical as you.
And by the looks of it you've found some friend who are into lolicon stuff eh?
>And of course, /tg/, I ask you: what the nether hell should I do?
Just proceed being awesome.
Who was Madam Tricella based on though? Was it Shinobu? One of those 2hu girls? Someone else?
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>>35704338

Dude, there's like 40 sessions of material there. The average session is like 6,000 words or so.
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>>35704329
>Book of Exalted Deeds
>Good is not bound by the era, but defined best as modern humanism

It may be lawful in that realm, but it ain't good.
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>>35704371
I have read books where children were raped. Some of those books I quite liked. If there were a book entirely about the rape of a child I probably wouldn't like it, but one sex act involving a child isn't going to determine my entire outlook on something.
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>>35704191
This is hilarious OP. Keep it going. Have the lolis attacked by cultists or something just to see the blind rage the party will have.
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>>35704296
Nah E-vore is the single most disgusting thing ever conceived.
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>>35704380
oh in that case most of the night and all tomorow
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>>35704290
>Now, the Toreador is fully behind this cause, so much so that the Malkavian starts to think it's real.
>Toreador begins to sow dissent, and the Ravnos being a Ravnos... just goes with it. The internet is used.
>Suddenly, My character has an army. Somehow, through random dice rolls, my character forms an army of female vampires and ghouls, all opposed to the prince.
>The storyteller and other two guys of the group are as lost as I am.
bbiab traveling
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>>35704191
it was all a drug induced dream.
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>>35704399
Explain?
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>>35704238
>Well arent you the most precious little immigrant

You're on an English-speaking "TRADITIONAL" gaming board, defending American youths who fetishize Japanese nerd culture and child sexualization...who's the immigrant, again?
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>>35704399
would you rather hard vore
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>>35704403

good luck~
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>>35704371
Not that anon
I probably would say it's a fucked up book, it certainly has some fucked up things in it, but at the same time I wouldn't go on about how the author is a fucked up horrible person unless I had something more to go on than some fictional thing he wrote.
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>>35704371
>He has never read Prince of Nothing

Honestly by this point children getting raped in books barely phases me. It needs something with a little more oomph to make me notice.
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>>35704399
Hard vore is worse, so worse.
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>>35704191
Why didn't you just drop a trail of goblins leading north?
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>>35704410
except /tg/ is the only board on 4chan that tends to have a problem with loli
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>>35703690
>>35703834
>>35704030
>>35704191

By all that's holly and sacred, this might be at the same time the worst and funniest thing I've ever read on this board.

OP, I'm ashamed of your players and pity your soul. God bless you.

(If you want to redeem yourself, make it so Madam Tricella was expecting the PC's to help her in her buisness, wich is in fact kidnapping people to feed all of those vampire-childs. Make them understand they goofed hard)
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>>35704410
The Japanese nerds and pedos, that's who.
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>>35704351
Having consensual sex with children in a game is fucked up too, when you think about it. Basically you shouldn't have any kind of sex with children because they're, like, kids.
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>>35704436
but that would have been the smart thing to do
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>>35704438
I don't think you've ever taken a stroll down to /pol/. You probably shouldn't.
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>>35704431
That's not really a good thing, is it?
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>>35703820
Columbus was good few centuries ago. Japan is just shit, and save for a short period when they actually had innovative ideas, they will remain shit.
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>>35704446
>Says the board which is mostly about murdering things for their stuff.

>>35704441
>Vampire-childs

Wouldn't that just lead to them joining them and running around having blood orgy's?
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>>35704454
Isn't /pol/ harping about degeneracy like all the time on other boards? I thought they're strictly heterosexual no miscegenation procreation only types.
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>>35704438
>except /tg/ is the only board on 4chan that tends to have a problem with loli

Every fetish thread in every board I've ever been in is half-filled with people saying that fetish is stupid/gay/wrong/etc..

That being said, this fetish is glorified pedophilia, and you're all filthy Japan-loving perverts. Cheers.
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>>35704486
Heroes are supposed to kill evildoers, not to have sex with children. That would be weird.
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>>35704462
Trust me my friend I have seen much worse shit in real life then is in most books these days. Once you actually see it in real life you stop caring about a book or whatever.
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>>35704415
Just the thought of someone being swallowed and kept alive in some person's stomach sickens be beyond belief.And the fact that most E-vore I have seen involves coprofilia doesn't help either. So yes I would rather hardcore vore.
>mfw I accidentally watch E-vore and csn't eat for a couple of days
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>>35704441
>wich is in fact kidnapping people to feed all of those vampire-childs.
>implying their source of power is blood/flesh and not semen
You merely adopted the magic realm.
>>35704446
>killing people for various reasons and roleplaying an evil character is ok
>having consensual sex and paying for it is, somehow, incredibly immoral and fucked up
Stop casualizing violence and making sexual behaviour a huge taboo.
Jesus, it's a fantasy land, after all.
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>>35704493
>confusing /pol/ with a subset of /pol/
You'd be right that nazis on that board love that procreation only degeneracy shit.
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>>35704493
/pol/ is about defining what is and isn't white in a reddit-tier circlejerk and screaming nigger as loud as they can. It's like /b/ but full of neckbeards in their 30s who think they know everything instead of 14 year olds posting naked pictures of their older sisters.

>>35704475
The reason I mention Columbus is to keep people from lumping all of those who enjoy the young with the Japanese, like this anon >>35704502
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>>35704521
>Just the thought of someone being swallowed and kept alive in some person's stomach sickens be beyond belief....So yes I would rather hardcore vore.
My nigga.
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>>35704493
/pol/ pretty much is a couple dozen camps calling all other camps degenerates.
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>>35704521
>csn't
Can't goddamnit, can't.
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>>35704521
I don't play with da poo-poo. Everything is clean and smells nice and when you burp butterflies come out.
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>>35704509
see >>35704306
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>>35704523
>killing people for various reasons and roleplaying an evil character is ok
>Stop casualizing violence

Don't put words in that anon's mouth, bro. Fantasizing about being a righteous vigilante doesn't say anything bad about you as a person. Fantasizing being evil? Maybe, but no one here endorsed that.
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>>35704323
She didn't get raped.
Now I'm confused.
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>>35704604
And I'm disappointed.
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>>35704521
I used to have a furry friend. He would send pictures of this shit and I would send pictures of hardcore loli and whatever else I could find back. The name of the game was to see everything and see who gives first.

4 years later and none of us had given up. After about a year you get used to it bro. You get used to it. ;_;
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>>35704604
>>35704615
There's another version where she does, but this is a blue board.
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>>35704602
Geez, even evil stuff is fun as long as it's just violence, murder, thievery, oppression, world domination, cons and/or Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain stuff
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>>35704602
>righteous vigilante

Those don't exist.
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>>35704639
Just like good people don't exist, right?
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>>35704619
And how did your friendship end? Did he send you a video of him fucking a rattus rattus or whatever they are called in english.
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>>35704519
That's not a good thing either. Besides I'm pretty sure I haven't seen child rape in real life, for starters.
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>>35704624
I think honestly the most screwed up evil thing in a game I've seen was one PC who accused a guy of pedophile and murder. Then gave a fiery speech with his absurdly high charisma in order to create a lynch mob for shits and giggles.
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>>35704560
>/pol/ is about defining what is and isn't white in a reddit-tier circlejerk and screaming nigger as loud as they can.
No, that's /int/.
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>>35704624
I'm looking at you, American media, COD is fine, but how dare you put naked women in the main plot of Watchdogs!

Let's all take this moment to remember the uproar over the "rape" in the tomb raider reboot
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>>35704602
>Fantasizing about being a righteous vigilante doesn't say anything bad about you as a person
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>>35704560
>The reason I mention Columbus is to keep people from lumping all of those who enjoy the young with the Japanese
To be fair, there are lots of examles like that.
Like, before the commie revolution happened (which was less that 100 years ago), it was an undisputed tradition for girls to marry at the age of 12 years old. And I mind you, 13, 14 and beyond were considered old hags.
>>35704652
He's right though, all righteous vigilanties are essencially abusive witch-hunters. Their passion is what leads them, not their desire to help. The latter is just an excuse.
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>>35704693
Watchdogs ought to be banned, and not becasue it has naked ladys in it.
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>>35704523
Fantasy land where you have consensual sex with children sounds fucked up, anon. Who would want to play in such a thing?
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>>35704708
I don't really want to turn this into a vidya thread, I mostly wanted to point out the shameless acceptance of needless violence, but the moment anything sexual appears suddenly it's Hitler all over again.
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>>35704654
>how did your friendship end?

An incredibly shitty story that one. It involves a ex girlfriend and him moving off.

>>35704652
Pretty much. I find most people who are good people don't say they are good people and typically the people who go out to create their own justice tends to be the ones who will say they are.

>>35704663
It's honestly just mostly the understanding that in the end it's just a book really. Once you see that you tend to realize it's all smoke and mirrors. The book/comic whatever is typically so devoid of any reality it may as well be talking about whaling or what have you.
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>>35704717
Well guess what, mate, killing people is fucked up too. Probably the most fucked up thing to do, really.
Yet I don't see people complaining eh?
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>>35704693
>Tomb Raider reboot
I guess I never made it to the rape scene because the elaborate gore porn was enough to make me stop playing.
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>>35704750
Because there exist legitimate reasons to kill people.
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>>35704697
Not really. If you look at most records most people tended to marry at 20. Just because people realized a pregnant loli tends to die. If you got married at 12 it tend to mean there was politics going on.

It is probably different depending on the region of the world but in general people tended not to marry the girls so much as dump them afterwards.
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>>35704752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCYNmwT6I0Q enjoy
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>>35704780
I mean I'm just telling you what I (a slav) learned on my russian history classes at the univercity.
I'm quite interested in seeing different sources though.
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>>35704851
Is the russian revolution actually called the communist revolution in russia iór was that just you?
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>>35704415
>>35704435
Hard vore is great, fuck you. Rip n chew a best.
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>>35704875
At least not as vommit inspiring as e-vore.
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>>35704619
Nigga, just crack out the Zenith, Hitomi Sakura and IRL gore.
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>>35704750
I kinda answered that earlier you know? I can't think of any TV series where the hero saves the day by having sex with children, but several with violence.
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>>35704851
I wouldn't know much about that region of the world. But in general people tend to not do that just because when the people that will take care of you are your children you want your wife and children to survive.

So most cultures shunned that in general. Though I wouldn't be surprised if it was true in regions I haven't researched. So I wouldn't say I know it's wrong.
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>>35704602
Meh, the invention of having sex with "kids" as being bad is far more new then the idea that giving them a hard buggering is a good thing.

Also, the fact that he considers murder (never specifying what kind) worse then rape or child sex is retarded, seeing as death is absolutely horrific and results in a termination of existence while people can heal and get past the trauma of rape.

Child sex is only really traumatic because we treat it as bad.
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>>35704873
If you mean the revolution of 1917, nah, it's just me. People usually call it just the October Revolution. The official name during the USSR times was some thing like "The Great October Socialist Revolution" or something as pompous as that.
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>>35704920
>Child sex is only really traumatic because we treat it as bad.
>this is what pedophiles actually believe
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>>35704889
>irl gore
No man, let me tell you. I have seen manchurian cartoon porn far more disgusting than any irl gore imaginable. And I have watched A LOT of irl gore.
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>>35704768
I would direct you to the Roman Empire, the Kouhai-Sensei relationship and Greece. Along with countless tribes and such that took "child" to mean less then 8.
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>>35704695
Don Quixote is a cool dude.
He's also a danger both to himself and others.
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>>35704932
Here we just call it the Rusian revolution, I guess you learn something every day.
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>>35704768
I would direct you to the Roman Empire, the Kouhai-Sensei relationship and Greece. Along with countless tribes and such that took "child" to mean less then 8.

Also, the idea that murder can be legitimate is retarded. The only time murder becomes acceptable is if someone is endangering your life, in which case pragmatism, not ethics, dictate you fight back.

See "Just War" theory.
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>>35704948
>I would direct you to the three most fucked up cultures of all time.
>I would direct you to three cultures where raping a woman is considered a crime against her male caretaker, not the woman herself.
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>>35704889
We did far worse my friend. I started pulling out the real life gore and shit like Pachyonychia Congenita, That one type of tumor that has faces and mouths and shit, Pixe rape. You name it we probably sent it.

Including one time I had someone edit his favorite morrowind character into looking like he was getting molested by a argonian. Which was the closest I got him to giving up.

>>35704894
IT.
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>>35704939
It was around for centuries and showed no massive harm to the kids then, I don't think human psychology has become massively brittle in the last 400 year

Also
>assuming I like flat, brittle girls and boys
kek
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>>35704952
>trip
GET, THE FUCKING FUCK OUT OF HERE IN THIS VERY INSTANT!
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>>35704932
The commies did very much love their overly patriotic names.
>>35704961
They also call WWII The Great Patriotic War but since there were battles on the Eastern Front that had more casualties than the entire Western Front, as far as I'm concerned they have the right to call it whatever they want.
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>>35704968
Your ideas of right and wrong are governed by your socioeconomic surroundings, much as theirs were. Compare them, not to present day, but to cultures of similar areas and levels of technology.
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>>35704940
As someone who has often enjoyed IRL gorn and gifs where the face flaps of a guy who's had a rifle rip through his jaws flap, gotta disagree bud.

>>35704975
>tetratromas
Nice.
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>>35704983
>showed no massive harm to the kids then
Because no one was recording it. Because no one noticed it because it happened to everyone and they all ended up fucked up. It was always there, we just never made note of it, just like PTSD.
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>>35704894
Outside of japan? No, not really.
Which only means that it only depends on people's views and beliefs on the matter.
You can't really blame H.H. for what he did, guy was basically seduced.
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>>35704968
Oh yes, lets mock the country that came up with democracies, I'm sure they couldn't have a possibly intelligent idea.

And I for one can't think of a single thing the Romans ever did for us.

Also, having sex with children happened for a long time in Constaniople, the Caliphates and Persia. So nyeh.
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>>35704967
>Greece

In a lot of city states it was actually a capital offense to stick the dick into another man.

>>35704968
>Roman culture.
>Not the greatest culture ever created.

It's almost like you don't like the Sicilian mob.
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>>35704975
>pixie rape
Delicious. And why would a furry give up because of anthro rape isn't that what furrys are all about?
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>>35704994
Many of their contemporaries have numerous incidents of women being allowed to marry who they pleased, divorce when they wanted to, kill their rapists and otherwise not be treated as a man's property.
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>>35705014

And Japan. And Afghanistan to this day.
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>>35704968
>the three most fucked up cultures of all time.
hahahano.
> where raping a woman is considered a crime against her male caretaker, not the woman herself.
Every culture back then thought that.
>>35704987
>can't tell the difference between a trip and a name
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>>35705020
Sources, please
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>>35705015
>Roman culture.
>Not the greatest culture ever created.
Bullies, brigands and thieves the lot of them. The only thing that they did first was a professional army, and then they went and used it to steal everything else and rewrite history to make them look great.
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>>35704994
I always get a kick out of people talking about morality when most of modern day morality is only possible due to how interconnected the world is.
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>>35705004
>Implying everyone ever isn't fucked up
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>>35704987
40kid pls go
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>>35705007
HH is the narrator, and as a result whatever he says is probably going to be incredibly biased.
>>35705020
I'm actually curious, as I've always considered rome to be an overly glorified shit.
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>>35705017
He was mostly into Vore. He wasn't into seeing pixes explode.
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>>35705020
Terry Jone's Barbarians is where I got it, you'll need to check his sources. He might only have mentioned it in the book, but it may be in the first part of the documentary series as well.
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>>35705076
Oh, bugger, meant to link
>>35705036
>>35705059
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>>35705007
I've read that story and he wasn't seduced, he was a complete and other irredeemable, pretentious cunt.

>>35705015
I would assume that wasn't strictly enforced given how popular Sappho and her pro-gay writing was in the Classical world.

>>35705020
The Vikings fucked "kids" as well anon, so fuck you. And none of their contemporaries invented democracy or aqueducts so people wouldn't have to be caked in their own shit.

>>35705039
And roads and architecture and aqueducts and pushing maths, science, the arts and military tactics years forwards.

>Steal everything
That sounds an awful like every civilisation on Earth.

>>35705076
A single source isn't that convincing you know.

Also, no matter what you say, the Celts did practice human sacrifice. We have enough mummies in Ireland to fucking prove it.
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>>35705001
I personally find picture of some girl in a gimpsuit covered in shit and cum with a toilet brush up her arse more disturbing than a video or picture of a disemboweled or decapitated person. May actually laugh at the later.
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>>35705095
But its a drawing and not real. Plus, dat fucking flop man.

Also, just a question, what did the Incas/Aztecs think of buggering "kids"?
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>>35704351
Damn Ramletherl is hot. If only she wasn't so into killing everyone she'd be great wife material.

>>35704446
What if they only looked like a kid? Is boning the 300 year old vamp loli a bad thing? I don't thinks so, but it would be kinda weird.
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>>35704405

I must know where this is going.
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>>35705051
Dude I don't even play 40k. The heresy maymay is probably the single most used phrase on this entire board. So go get E-vored or something m8.
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>>35705095

Strange, its the exact oposite fom me, I get far more disturbed at gore than any kind of fetish situation.
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>>35705020
I always get a kick out of how women could vote in France in like the fucking 12 century. It's hilarious when people act like that was an idea just thought up in the last 100 years.

No fault divorce I can't remember but I do know at least the norse had laws that made it literally impossible to stop your wife from doing whatever she wants with your money. So she could like blow all your money from your last raid on milk if she felt like it and it would be legal.

With Rome if you weren't the oldest member of your family you where done fucked unless you had friends.
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>>35705104
Ethically, nothing is wrong, but it is still creepy.
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>>35705120
De gustibus non est disputandum.
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>>35705094
>The Vikings fucked "kids" as well anon, so fuck you. And none of their contemporaries invented democracy or aqueducts so people wouldn't have to be caked in their own shit.

They didn't have proper cities though, so the latter wasn't a problem. As for Greek democracy, theoretical justifications for it aside, a lot of people had that? It's pretty basic tribal stuff. You don't need to invent anything.
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>>35705124
>France
Yeah, but their democracy was fucked. It was called the Reign of Terror for a reason.
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>>35705094
>The Vikings fucked "kids" as well anon
Not contemporary, no citations.

>And roads and architecture and aqueducts
and pushing maths, science
Nope, stolen.

>the arts
Anyone can do that.

>A single source isn't that convincing you know.
Which is why I said you'll need to check Terry's sources. Tell you what, if this thread is still alive when I get home, I'll look in the back of my copy of the book and tell you his sources myself.

>Also, no matter what you say, the Celts did practice human sacrifice.
Not denying that. However, there's plenty of evidence that said sacrifice was one guy willingly giving his life so that the gods would help his community, and as far as human sacrifice goes that's one of the better forms.
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>>35704884
I get that you're just baiting and shitposting, but to all the other anons, it's really not.
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>>35705150
>12th century
>French democracy
>Reign of Terror

You're cool, man. So cool.
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>>35705143
>what is birka?
>what is hedeby
>what is jorvik?
>what is dublin?
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>>35705076
The problem lies with you comparing the Romans, Greeks, and Persians to cultures who did not have to control extremely large areas. It's very easy to draw personal freedom of women in a culture as an inverse to the degree of the known world they controlled. You can draw similar lines with strictness of laws versus how peaceful the area in question is (see Ptah-Hotep precepts versus code of Hammurabi).
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>>35703690 (OP)
>>35703834
>>35704030
>>35704191
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>>35705150
>Reign of Terror
>12th century
Dear God are you retarded?
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>>35705182
During the reign of Genghis Khan, Mongol woman ran households. Your argument is invalid.
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>>35705151
The romans had the arch.
That is the single biggest thing they did, and I think its importance should be emphasized. The arch is what allows architecture as it exists today.
The romans were still terrible people though.
>>35705159
You're right, getting my time periods confused.
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>>35705151
>Nope, stolen.
Yeah, because nothing ever advanced over the hundreds of years of Roman rule.
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>>35705158
I get that you can't grasp that people may not share your horrible fetish, but to all teh other anons. It really is some Y'golonac tier shit.
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>>35705191
.....alright, the arch I'll give you. But they were bullies that took cultural appropriation to previously unthought-of levels.
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>>35705186
No, just never got to take european history. Closest I got was world history, and that was when I lived in Alabama. You are right though, I did a dumb right there.
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>>35705169
Too small to need sewers
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>>35705136
I'd marry that girl. She's so sweet and nice. Plus, you have any idea how hard it is for girls like that to find a good man? Damn near everyone either rejects her or is a pedo. Pedo fucks are bad people, and she'd reject them because of that.

Being the elder loli is suffering.
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>>35705004

How precisely do you measure the "harm" it causes? Because in regards to physical effects, it was quite commonly practiced to wed just around puberty and wait until puberty has finished to consummate the marriage. My own mother to this day remarks that in her day women got married in their younger teens, and that being yet unmarried as of 18 often prompted a girl to be called an "old maid."

So I am guessing you mean psychologically, that wonderful branch of "science" where nobody really has to prove anything with, like, facts, or evidence, or really much of any science at all.
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>>35705209
Yes, they were terrible people. We can agree on that.
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>>35705094
>I would assume that wasn't strictly enforced given how popular Sappho and her pro-gay writing was in the Classical world.

Probably not. But in general as much as people want to say Greece was dozens of men covered in oil boinking each other it was probably a tad more subdued and with a good chunk not into it.

>That sounds an awful like every civilisation on Earth.

I fucking love the Assyrians.

>A single source isn't that convincing you know.

Honestly when looking at the past it mostly goes. "Depending on the region and culture your rights can shift from anything depending on who you are." It tends to be less bad then a lot of people claim. But still worse then a lot of other people claim. You can probably live your life in peace and most laws most likely weren't always enforced due to the difficulty of it. On the other hand there is also ways where things could get pretty damn bad. They're really isn't a civilization evolutionary path like some pokemon so things tend to be hard to pin down.
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>>35705198
Oh sure stuff advanced. I mean, with all the stuff they stole, they just HAD to have come up with something of their own by mixing it all together.
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>>35705224
>, that wonderful branch of "science" where nobody really has to prove anything with, like, facts, or evidence, or really much of any science at all.
So I presume you're one of those retards who thinks Freud's bullshit is considered actual psychology instead of being taught for historical value?
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>>35705213
So your definition of a proper city is that it has to have/need sewers. I could take the time to tell you why you are retarded beyond belief, but instead I will you direct you to this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polis
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>>35705240

Psychology says things I don't like, therefore psychology is wrong.
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>>35705231
And mixing stuff together is how you get new stuff. Nobody comes up with something from nothing.
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>>35705190
>the 1200s are the same as 2500 BCE - 600 CE

Are you paying attention, anon?
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>>35705151
>Nope, stolen.

Hey man if it works it works I say. It was honestly kind of a brilliant idea to steal the things that work and use it.
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>>35705223
>I'd marry that girl
>as in, be a husband to her and do what any husband is supposed to do
>later claims he's not a pedo
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>>35705250
No, I mean that medieval Dublin was too small to bother with sewers.
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>>35704191
we need to see just how deep this rabbit hole goes
keep posting updates
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>>35705169
>what is kiev
>what is novgorod?
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>>35705255
Sometimes they do. How else would we have the stuff to mix in the first place?

My point being, Rome's advances are due to their cultural appropriation, not their ingenuity.
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>>35705240

I notice a lot of name calling, but not a lot of response to my question.
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>>35705259
The technology levels are comparable, so it's valid.
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>>35705278
Your point?
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>>35705252
>psychology

Having been to enough psychology courses in my life time I will tell you one thing. It is mostly bullshit unless they are working off of the physiological psychology.
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>>35705281
We don't know because we're not psychologists. We are just vaguely aware that PTSD and being the victim of a pedophile fuck you up.
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>>35705306

How is a whore the "victim" of her client?
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>>35705274
There where no such thing as sewers during the middle ages.
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>>35705318
>whore
Way to reveal yourself, pedophile edgelord.
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>>35705280
An advance is still an advance, doesn't matter if they got the ideas from the Greeks and Etruscans.
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>>35705143
Some tribal societies had rotational leadership but it was still "what the leader says goes". No matter how you want to diminish it, the Greeks invented democracy.

>>35705151
He provided no evidence for contemporaries either, forcing me to assume he meant the Vikings due to mentioning "free divorce". Now, I'm sorry I don't have my personal pocket encyclopaedia on the legal age in Scandinavia at the time, but I hope this will do

http://rantavik.blogspot.ie/2013/02/viking-marriage-and-courtship.html

It's the only link I could find that even vaguely mentions an age.

Anon, are you implying the romans managed to steal the Pantheon's dome? Or that they stole all of their own roads? Or the pipes they made and the central heating systems with them?

I mean, excuse me if I'm getting this wrong but didn't the romans create entire kinds of architecture, medicinal work and anatomy.

Plus, if anyone can do the arts why didn't they?

Sligh irritation aside, I would like to see those sources because books are fun.

>>35705230
I take your point and that's what I'm trying to say. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with having sex with children; its not murder and its not rape and it doesn't have to be damaging to the child's mental well being.

>>35705280
You're ignoring how they built off of the culture and science they absorbed, like all civilisations do. Stop thrashing the romans for just doing what everyone does, its retarded.

>>35705306
Can. And all pedophila now days, in the places these studies have been done, is predatory. if we ran tests in a country where it still is accepted, I'd imagine different results.

>>35705274
What >>35705320 this anon said. Also, medieval Dublin, hell Dublin up to the 1940s, had massive sanitation and hygiene issues.

>>35705318
Enablement. If they keep buying, the girls will be forced to keep selling.
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>>35705333
Yes, but advances that are from one's own ingenuity should be praised more than those that are not.
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>>35705306
It depends a lot of on the person. My father got pedo jumped when he was a kid and one of my friends did and they are mostly not fucked up. They tend to be more sarcastic then most people I know but they aren't having mental breakdowns or anything.
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>>35704983

Try "less than twohundred years". As was already stated above, prostitution of 11 year old "children" was legal well into the nineteenth century in Western Europe.

People need to realize that the for the overgreat majority of human history, the norm has been "She's bleeding every month/He can get it up? Old enough!", with no other questions asked.
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>>35705298
That the kindly anon who said that the vikings didn't have any "proper" cities has no idea of what he is talking about.
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>>35705326

I legitimately can't tell if this is some kind of reverse baiting epik tumblrpost or something. You are aware we are speaking in the context of literal prostitutes, and that they are quite literally whores, who charge clients money for sex, right? Is there anything else I can spell out for you here?

>>35705344
>Enablement. If they keep buying, the girls will be forced to keep selling.

What the fuck kind of sense is that supposed to make? By that definition any tradesman is being "enabled" by their clients. Do you also complain about janitors being victimized by messy slobs?
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>>35705290
I haven't reached Mongolia yet in my World History to 1500 class, so I did a quick scan of wikipedia and found "the artisans were sent back to Mongolia, young women and children were given to the Mongol soldiers as slaves, and the rest of the population was massacred."

What so you propose those soldiers were doing with those young female slaves? Surely nothing that would come between them and their
>being allowed to marry who they pleased, divorce when they wanted to, kill their rapists and otherwise not be treated as a man's property.
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>>35704371

Have you ever read the Bible?
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>tgdiscussingmagicalrealm,tgdiscussingpedophillia.avi
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>>35705372
Novgorod and Kiev aren't viking cities though.
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>>35705346
Personally I say whatever works works. You may have stolen half your ideas but if you still won in the end I'm not going to say the victory is hollow.

Though honestly the Romans mostly won due to being batshit crazy and being able to take massive losses of their population without stopping.
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>>35705344
>Anon, are you implying the romans managed to steal the Pantheon's dome? Or that they stole all of their own roads? Or the pipes they made and the central heating systems with them?
Bunch of fucking cleptomaniacs if you aske me. Stole their empire, stole their gods, stole their emperors and they even stole their bloody swords .
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>>35705136
I'm not a big fan of that comic, but that last panel gets me every time.
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>>35705344
>Anon, are you implying the romans managed to steal the Pantheon's dome?
That falls under 'arch', which I acknowledged here
>>35705209

>Or that they stole all of their own roads?
Oh, yeah, stole that from the Celts.

>Or the pipes they made and the central heating systems with them?
They might have, I'm not sure who they would've stolen it from though.

>I mean, excuse me if I'm getting this wrong but didn't the romans create entire kinds of architecture, medicinal work and anatomy.
Thing is, none of that would have come about if they hadn't stolen a lot and because of that I don't think we should admire them that much for their advances.

>Sligh irritation aside, I would like to see those sources because books are fun.
See you when I get home, then.

>>35705377
Allow me to clarify: native Mongol women were treated pretty well under the rule of Genghis Khan. Other women.....well, let's just say he collected princesses like some neckbeards collect MtG cards.
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>>35705408
>Novgorod and Kiev aren't viking cities though.
Are you for real?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians
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>>35705439
Why does it have to be stealing? Why can't it be adopting by force?
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>>35705453
Difference?
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>>35705373
Personally in my opinion as long as the prostitute is there willingly I don't really care much. It's when you get into forced ones like some Thailand child whorehouses that it starts getting irritating.

>>35705377
>Slaves

And there is your problem there anon. Slaves tend not to be treated well.
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>>35704405
Back...

So, anyway....
>At this point, the majority of female characters following my guy has grown exponentially. All because of a sham plan we came up with to get the Toreador included.
>Group has grown to the point that there are now two groups, directed by two different co-GMs.
>Arrival of That Girl. The girl that wants to be loved by the nerds. Slut Toreador.
>She sits back for a week or two to get the lay of the land, before she transfers over to the group I am part of, trading places with one of the guys.
>MFW she makes the group play awkward by trying to wedge herself in between me and the other people in the group.
>So, the storyteller decides to start having her make rolls.
>MFW her character seduces my brujah.
>MFW after the session, she asks me for a ride home, and me being a horny fuck, I take her up on her offer to has sekts.
>So, now, she is all expecting a relationship. Next session is awkward when I act as if nothing happened, and she is crushed.
>Here comes the hype. She suddenly flips.
>Malk chick, not wanting this type of drama, and having a slight crush on me (cause IRL, I'm a dom, she knows it. I didn't know she was a sub into pet play, and that was why she had no problem whatsoever being leashed to me in the game.)
>Toreador Slut winds up trying to subvert me and become the power behind the throne.
>Malkavian girl saves me from said thing.
>Slut runs for refuge from the wrath of the group, to NPC Sabbat.
>Becomes their Slut Queen through Roleplay and Rolls.
>Huge showdown.
>Setting? Strip Club where the Toreawhore works.
>Somehow... some way.... blood is spilled early. I mean... as in a Sabbat eviscerates a mortal bystander.
>Frenzy checks, cause everyone popped off half their blood pools in the first 2 or three rounds of the fighting.
>Storyteller throws his hands into the air, as all of the sudden, dice gods laugh in our faces. Everyone failed.
>Vampire Sex.
>So. Much. Vampire. Sex. Apparently the strip joint is a nexus of
(cont)
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>>35705459
Euphemisms make the world go round
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>>35705453
Becasue Im a buttblasted spanish carthaboo.
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>>35705346
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/romans/tech_01.shtml
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/10-innovations-that-built-ancient-rome

You're full of shit. You also keep ignoring that the Romans invented central heating.

>>35705373
You are assuming all prostitution is consensual and empowering, when what often happens is people are used as sex slaves.

>>35705448
>implying dirt tracks between villages compare to paved streets that cross countries.
Man, fuck you. We still have some of their roads today.

You're making it sound like no civilisation ever took stuff besides the Romans.
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>>35705448
>he collected princesses like some neckbeards collect MtG cards.

Let it never be said Genghis Khan didn't know how to live a good life. Neckbeard style collecting is fun.

>>35705459
Probably that you have to take them first.
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>>35705461
Slaves in Rome, however, eventually obtained protection under the law, including a right to file a complaint against their master.

So which is worse, anon, ruthless slavery or pedophilia and sexism?
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>>35705448
>Oh, yeah, stole that from the Celts.
Oh so they stole something nonexsistent from the celts?
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>>35705448
>Oh, yeah, stole that from the Celts.
No, they built the bloody roads.
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>>35705504
The answer is that they're both pretty bad, but your answer depends entirely on >>35704994
your socioeconomic surroundings.
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>>35705452
The only varangians (aka varyags) were the northern princes: Rurik (Riurik) and his brothers. They founded their own dynasty and ruled over slavic lands for quite a while.
But the land was still inhabited by slavic people. And they married slavic women. So the whole "viking" part about them is kind of irrelevant.
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>>35705483
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/romans/tech_01.shtml
60% of that is things they built, not necessarily things they came up with themselves.

>implying dirt tracks between villages compare to paved streets that cross countries.
>Man, fuck you. We still have some of their roads today.
The Celts built roads in FUCKING BOGS from logs. And some of them have survived to this day, even if they had to be dug up first.

>You're making it sound like no civilisation ever took stuff besides the Romans.
Not denying that. Just pointing out that they did it way more than everyone else.
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>>35705508
>>35705515
They built the roads. They weren't necessarily the ones who came up with the idea.
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>>35705504
Honestly if I was building a empire in the classical era I would go for both. I mean damn it if you're going to be an asshole don't be half hearted about it.

Though to be honestly people overestimate the rights the Roman slaves had. They mostly could just avoid dying. Doesn't mean it's healthy unless you happen to be a really famous tutor.
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>>35705546
Not dying is more than those subjugated by Ghengis Khan could claim.
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>>35705483
>You are assuming all prostitution is consensual and empowering, when what often happens is people are used as sex slaves.

I am not going to abide by this meandering "what if" game which permits the absurd statement that an exchange of service for money equals muh rape. There are janitors that hate their jobs and are unable to get better ones, I don't see you crusading for them.
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>>35705543
>The Celts had roads
>Therefore the Roman ones don't count
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>>35705546
But if you're half-hearted about it, it's easier for you to cover it up and make yourself look like the good guy.
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>>35705567
Nah, it just makes you look lazy.
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>>35705280
>cultural appropriation

I want tumblr to fucking leave.
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>>35705543
"Hey look at that Claudius! These Celt fellows pave the ground with stone to allow easier travel, perhaps we could benefit from building some too"

"By Neptune NO Aetius! That would be STEALING!"
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>>35705557
That is a good point. But it wasn't nearly as Idealistic as a lot of people tend to say here.

>>35705567
>Needing to cover it up.
>Not just killing everything that says not to.

Unless you mean like your own internal population. Then you may have a problem. Or that big empire next door.
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>>35705557
Every empire killed a lot of people it subjugated. And it's not like he'd keep killing you after he conquered you.....unless you did something to piss him off recently, like that one civilization that refused an 10-year old deal for military aid. Lying on his deathbed, with his final words, Genghis Khan ordered that they be completely and utterly destroyed; obliterated, wiped off the map, erased from history, and so on and so forth.
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>>35705465
>Strip joint is a nexus of sexual energy, thanks to a few non-vampire meddlings (werewolves, mages, and fae... or rather, their bad elements)
>So... yeah. Vampire Orgy. Thankfully, Storyteller fades to black, after turning to me and saying...

"You? You are in the middle of all of this."

>Next session? My brujah had diablerized half of his followers in that orgy, while "fucking" (which essentially consists of exchange feeding and blowing blood points for 'human like reactions')
>Sabbat? Creamed
>Queen Slut? Chained and collared slave to my brujah (which she wanted all along, and is perfectly fine with)
>City's prince? Fled.
>Anarchs? Rising up
>My Group? Suddenly, we are the Camarilla. Every Human who was in the club that night are either ghouls or herds.
>MFW the Storyteller used the last session to wind up, with me and my little core group becoming the Camarilla Power structure of Boston.
>He told me to go to hell for fucking the Toreawhore and causing all of this, which there was much more of, but i didn't want to write a two year campaign here
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>>35705590
I'm not versed in tumblrspeak, but it sounds like an appropriate phrase to me.
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>>35705590
Oh come now anon, just because it's become a tumblr buzzword doesn't mean that you should freak out when it's used in it's proper context. And yes, stealing technology from the conquered is the appropriate use for 'cultural appropriation'.
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>>35705439
>stole their helmets
>stole their boats
>stole their auxiliary
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>players see magic realm
>suspect that the DM is fucking with them as the DM was
>all subconsciously come to this conclusion
>rush headlong into magic realm to spite the DM
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>>35705014
>> And I for one can't think of a single thing the Romans ever did for us.

The aquaduct?
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>>35705623
It also refers to theft of culture itself, such as what the Romans did with the Greeks.
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>>35705640
Stolen from the Greeks and Persians. I just checked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqueduct_(water_supply)#Persia
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>>35705608
That tended to happen a lot in rebellions.

>>35705623
The mongols pretty much did hilariously high amounts of that then. About the only reason it worked out so well was all the Chinese guys they had.
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>>35705534
>60% of that is things the Romans built
>Lets just sweep the other 40% under the rug, along with the improvements they made and I'm going to ignore the fact that I haven't addressed their central heating again.

You're implying the romans never built roads through marshes or woods or hills which they clearly did. You're also ignoring how much easier it is for smaller roads to last then larger ones and also the quality of said roads.

Also, that's because they conquered a lot more people than anyone else and lasted a lot longer than anyone else. Like, 3rd biggest empire ever, if I'm not mistaken.

>>35705558
It doesn't matter if you abide it or not, a lot of prostitution has been sex slavery down through the ages and even if that particular whore you are fucking isn't being forced, the one across from her might be.

>>35705546
Oh yeah, that's fine. Lets just ignore manumission or how, eventually, freed men become one of the most powerful classes in Rome.

>>35705678
Lets just ignore all the improvements they made on that design.

>>35705640
The roads?
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>>35705558
>an exchange of service for money equals muh rape.
did you miss the "sex SLAVES" part of his post? money is being exchanged with the prostitutes' handlers. if there was any substantial documented problem of janitors being entirely unpaid for their labor, i would certainly complain about people causing maintenance issues

>>35705590
kill you are self
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>>35705613
...

Closest I got in a LARP was a one-off date with a 6/10 girl when we suddenly clicked and flirted in a game she was running. In like, two gallons of body paint because Spirit of the Century and they went over the top, over the top.

Said date was in the middle of the hardest snow storm that year, went to a bar, talked about how she wanted to join overseas social works in the next year or so. Then she met with a friend and ended up hanging out with her instead, getting a ride home with her instead.

Nothing else happened, other than being told later that she never went overseas, and turned out to have a massive masochist side and basically slavishly in love with some other guy who beats her because she loves it.

After that, romance in LARPs was forbidden. Because of my two Exes already in said LARP group.

Life is suffering.
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>>35705678
and sanitation!
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>>35705696
>Oh yeah, that's fine. Lets just ignore manumission or how, eventually, freed men become one of the most powerful classes in Rome.

That doesn't exactly mean it's a great thing to be though. I mean it was better then a lot of slaves in history. But you are still a slave.
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>>35705533
Did you take the time to read the article? The slavs fucked up so bad they had to invite the varjags to come and rule them. And fuck no! The rurikids where not by any means the only norroenir chieftains in gårdarike! Do you have any ideas of how many norroenir carved out a petty kingdom in the east? They ruled those realms, laid down the foundation to states that still remain in the area and most importantly they built the cities that I mentioned
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>>35705632
I want to believe
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>>35705694
>The mongols pretty much did hilariously high amounts of that then. About the only reason it worked out so well was all the Chinese guys they had.
I was under the impression that for the most part they only appropriated military technology, and that the Mongol's history admits said appropriation. The latter, to me at least, means that they were more respectable than the Romans.
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>>35705696
shush, I was hoping to play out the whole sketch
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>>35705696
>You're implying the romans never built roads through marshes or woods or hills which they clearly did.
They'd never have built them through marshes if they had not copied the Celts.

>Also, that's because they conquered a lot more people than anyone else and lasted a lot longer than anyone else. Like, 3rd biggest empire ever, if I'm not mistaken.
Perhaps, but the speed at which they stole and their gall in rewriting history to make themselves look like the inventors is just.....eeugh.
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>>35705749
>2014
>expecting to have nice things on 4chan
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>>35705703
>file deleted

I didn't even notice. I wonder why.
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>>35705729
We're arguing about ethics here. It should be noted if one nation is more moral then another in any of its institutions, albeit not to the point of ridiculousness though.

What child sex and slavery have to do with each other, search me.

>>35705749
Sketch? Pfft, sketch, SHUT UP!
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>>35705768
Guess mods thought rustle's stuff was too realistic.
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>>35705769
Mongolian child sex slaves.

Scroll up a bit and you'll find it.
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>>35705735
Pretty much 99 percent of their civic organization came from the Chinese. Their military was mostly there own. But it was mostly the Chinese that kept the place from falling apart.
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>>35705021
>And Japan.

Nope, its about as illegal there as it is every other Civilized place in the world. The Baseline age of consent is 12 but its bumped up to 16 or higher in every prefecture
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Why do so many people confuse erotic thoughts about little poorly drawn children with wanting to diddle real children?
There are people who gladly fap to loli porn and can't stomach the thought of messing with real kids.
Just there are people who would gladly diddle a little girl but find the romanticized image of them seeing in loli porn to be shit.

For example: >>35705797
I would not immediately assume that guy is a paedophile, or is at worst only casually into CP because he speaks of Rustle as being realistic.
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>Magical realm devolves into a history debate
Shit like this is why I love you /tg.
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>>35705730
The amount of so-called vikings that came to slavic lands at the time is still petty compared to the amount of people that have already been living there. They got assimilated, not the other way around.
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>>35705812
I know for sure that they did steal military technology.....the trebuchet, for instance.
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>>35704191
Roll with it. Just keep going and see where the magical ride ends. I can't believe your whole group was secretly a bunch of lolicons. You at least made the lolis "mature" lolis right? I could see that working out, but if actual little girls are involved then the Paladins will come for them all to CLEAVE AND SMITE the whole operation.

>>35705272
Love don't give a shit about appearances.
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>>35705882
I don't think it's possible to have a military without adapting ideas of others.
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>>35705812
Although they did steal a lot of their siege tactics from the Chinese.
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>>35705915
Not a successful one, anyways.
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>>35705868
Honestly most threads here develop into a history debate or an edition war.
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>>35705855
I still remember a time one of my lolicon friends explained this. "Look at a loli. At how cute they are and how they are shaped. Then look at a real little girl which looks nothing near as cute. One is fap worthy the other vomit inducing."
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>>35705916
Of course they did. You can't steal a weapon that is unlike anything you have and not steal the tactics for it too.
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>>35705915
Unless you're the French before WWII.
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>>35705855
>I would not immediately assume that guy is a paedophile, or is at worst only casually into CP because he speaks of Rustle as being realistic.
Oh, anon, you're too kind.
Personally, I think that most 2D exclusive lolicons are just closet pedophiles, but it's just me.
Though it's not like having thoughts and preferences is a criminal offense. If you're not doing anything illegal, you can enjoy and appreciate everything you want. And you should not be ostracized for that.
>>35705903
>Love don't give a shit about appearances.
Whatever makes you sleep at night, anon.
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>>35705881
But the varjags brought with them their culture wich the slavs assimilated, they for an example brought with them the norse pingir wich remained in gårdarike for a very long time to come. Saying that the varjags didn't leave a huge mark on the eastern european culture is like saying that the romans didn't change gallia. But that wasn't anything near what I was originaly saying. What I said was that Novgorod and Kiev where built by the norroenir.
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>>35705946
>Napoleon never ever used the ideas of others
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>>35705916
I always laugh that they did that yet they still had shit luck at taking Hungarian castles. To the point where the king changed the laws so the nobles needed a stone castle.
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>>35705280
>Rome's advances are due to their cultural appropriation, not their ingenuity.
>What is the arch?
>What is concrete?
>What is an aqueduct?
I'll take "willful ignorance of fact for 600, Alex
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>>35705881
Also. Nobody said anything about vikings.
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>>35705959
Immediately before WWII. I was making a joke about shitty interwar French military doctrine.
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>>35705983
>French
>Ever having good military doctrines.

When they did they done went and fucked it up at some point or another.
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>>35705999
Just like every other country has
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>>35705955
>Saying that the varjags didn't leave a huge mark on the eastern european culture is like saying that the romans didn't change gallia.
>What I said was that Novgorod and Kiev where built by the norroenir.
And while I do agree with you on the fact that those cities were founded by them, there was also a shitload of other stuff that happened in Rus after the arrival of rurikids & friends. Like the Golden Horde invasions and so on and so forth. Those were also important in terms of, uh, city building and development.
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>>35705797
>Rustle
>realistic

Yea, anon, those leaves looked like a photo.
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>>35704114
The goddamn best games come from that

>>35704177
Half the time they spend as loli whores, other half loli adventurers going out to defeat evil, cast lolification spell, and drag them back to the brothel.

>>35704189
I will read this later, thread will probably be dead then

>>35704191
>And of course, /tg/, I ask you: what the nether hell should I do?
Do >>35704122's suggestion, only lolis can work for Madam Tricella's brothel, they can act as guards and even do a little adventuring on the side but when in town they gotta work alongside the rest of the girls

>>35704399
I can think of a few
And not cause endosoma and assimilation are two of my biggest vore fetishes

>>35704521
Most of the stuff I've seen seems to be pretty clean, it's the hard vore that usually ends in shit in my experience

>>35705158
Meh, if anything the vomit inducing part would be the vore, anything after would just be icing on the cake

>>35705208
It is starting to sound like you have a bit of a phobia of it though
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>>35706021
Yes, but the Rus wouldn't have developed without the initial Norse influence.
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>>35706074
Are you from the scandianvian part of the world or something, anon? It seems to be you're really proud of your heritage. :3
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>>35705935
Fags who like 3DPD children have to be mentally ill.

Because who can find something so ugly attractive.
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>>35706103
Are you from the Russian part of the world or something, anon? It seems to be you're really proud of your heritage. :3
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>>35706103
>scandinavian
>varjag heritage
U wot
That being said I wholeheardetly agree with the anon you where respodning to, had the varjags not settled in gårdarike the state of russia for an example would probalby not have existed today
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>>35705954
>Personally, I think that most 2D exclusive lolicons are just closet pedophiles, but it's just me.
>Though it's not like having thoughts and preferences is a criminal offense. If you're not doing anything illegal, you can enjoy and appreciate everything you want. And you should not be ostracized for that.



I used to think that, but I've met enough exclusive folks on either side to believe that's not the case.
Though personally I find it comes in waves, there are lengths of time where I'm not interested at all in the underage girls, then other times where I go into full "you should score with me because it'll piss off your dad" mode.
And I enjoy that mode far too much to drop it for good. Though I don't bother with the actual little ones, too risky.
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>>35706104
You know, the society doesn't really care or differentiate "you" from "them". They think you are all pedophiles that should be executed in the most gruesome way possible.
You're all in the same fucking boat, could have atleast tried showing some compassion.
Just saying.
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>>35706190
>dat image
Aw yiss.
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>>35706216
It was a good doujin.
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>>35706071
>It is starting to sound like you have a bit of a phobia of it though
You do realize that finding vore disgusting isn't abnormal, it's the other way around.
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>>35706190
Got to love top down views of society.
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>>35706190
I have ran out of compassion for anyone a long time ago.
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>>35706226
I need sauce, please! gonna go to jail
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>>35706237
>You do realize that finding vore disgusting isn't abnormal, it's the other way around.
Oh no I get that, it's just that you fixate your disgust on this above several other disgusting things makes me think there might be some slight phobia/higher than normal aversion,
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>>35706258
> several other disgusting things makes me think there might be some slight phobia/higher than normal aversion,
What things, the lolis?
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>>35706244
http://bit ly/1t6TEi3
You're not trying at all, anon. Replace the space with a period.
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>>35706239
Ofcourse the "execution" part was a bit of an exaggeration, but what's your point here? It's not like I'm angry at the society, it's just a matter of fact.
>>35706243
Anon, please.
>>35706244
Friend, I'm pretty sure the name of the doujin and its author is written on the image.
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>>35706286
Well there could be that but it's more so the guro/scat elements
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>>35706299
Just more laughing that in general when you get an entire society you notice there is a lot of abstraction going on.
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>>35706299
>Friend, I'm pretty sure the name of the doujin and its author is written on the image.
Yes it seems like Im just an idiot.
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>>35706342
Well that's kind of inevitable, anon. To make certain conclusions about what people think you have to generalize stuff a bit. Or am I wrong?
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>>35706324
What no, those are also disgusting as shit.
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>>35706324
>mfw when I stumbled across a queens blade doujin featuring farts and an underage eating shit mixed with breast milk and his own cum.
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>>35706430
Aaaand that killed the thread.
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>>35706817
Everyone is looking for the doujin so they can become Sean Connery.
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>>35706406
No, I'm just noting that you're fixating on endovore as the most disgusting and that it's probably cause it hits some minor fear of yours more so than the others
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>>35706846
You don't become Sean Connery, the sheer terror makes age some sixty years.
You do get a kicking hat and a sweet beard though.
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>>35707008
Still worth it
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>>35706949
Alright Freud, I hear your mother is changing. Better go check that out so you don't miss anything sweet.
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>>35707138
Speaking of mothers,
Tell me about yours
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>>35707175
4/10, she's my mother, you wierdo
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>>35707175
>I'd bang my own mother
You're to weird even for this thread Siegmund.
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>>35705903
What show is this?
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>>35707957

Yotsunoha, IIRC...
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>>35706430

>Farts
Oooh
>eating shit
Oooooooooh
>mixed with Breast milk
Oooooooooooooooooh
>and his own cum
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY
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>>35708285
I am so excited for Ragyou quest
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>>35704030
>I won't bore you with the many and thorough descriptions of lolis in various states of little to no dress and draped in varying amounts of scents and oils
Fucking tease.
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>>35704379
It sounds like something the one from Vampire Bund would do. Mina I think her name was?
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haven't read the thread, but, neckbearded orgy?
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>>35705230
Considering that heroes (Achilles), and gods (Zeus among others) were openly known to have same-sex lovers I don't think it was exactly stigmatized either



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