Twitter: https://twitter.com/MercCommandArchive:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Endless+Sky+Ace+Combat+QuestOther Quests:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Valkyrian%20Mercs%20Quest (Complete)http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Cyberpunk%20Idol%20Management%20Quest (Running)http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=pararescue+witches (Running)http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=magical+girl+hunter (Complete)http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=gundam+build+fighters+quest (Complete)Okay, so I have the pastebin for the rules and stats here. The gist of the matter is that combat is largely going to be handled as a d10 roll low, where you need to roll equal to or below a certain skill rating. As always, I take the best of three rolls. I'm bringing back the old VMQ crit system where 10s will negate your best roll. However, these rules can and will change or be tweaked if I see the need to, especially since they're largely untested.RULES AND STATS: http://pastebin.com/bECzgrjYWith that out of the way, on with the quest!(cont)
>>35671294You are KARLA WEISS, a Belkan fighter pilot looking to carve your own place in the skies!"The name's Lara! Lara Williams!" The girl says with a cheerful smile, her hand held out."Um, Karla. Karla Weiss." You respond, shaking her hand. You weren't quite used to other people being this up front with you."Weiss... that's a Belkan name, isn't it?" Lara leans her, her expression more curious than accusatory. Even so, it made you feel slightly uncomfortable.>'Weiss' is actually a very common name on the Osean continent.>I was born in Belka, yes.>Of course I'm Belkan.>Other
>>35671300>>Of course I'm BelkanWe're proud.
>>35671300>>Of course I'm Belkan.ILL FITE U M8 SWEA ON ME MUM
>>35671300>>Of course I'm Belkan.Yes, and?
>>35671300>>I was born in Belka, yes.
>>35671300>>Of course I'm Belkan.
>>35671300>Of course I'm Belkan.
Yeah, so we need a nickname or a squadron name first before we get an emblem.(i.e. Banshee, a screaming skull or something)
>Have to leave for classes in twenty minutes>See this threadMerc plsAlso F-35 when?
>>35671300>I was born in Belka, yes.
>>35671300>>I was born in Belka, yes
>>35671300>Of course I'm Belkan.Haha! It's on.
>>35671378Two pilots a squadron does not make. Let's wait until we have somewhere around 4-6 before we start thinking of squadron names.
>>35671425Endgame because the only thing better is an F22 but that doesn't even have EO/IR sensors so F-35 would be the best in general.
Haha, time for AC Quest!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UANlAn2AbqM
>>35671570Yes, it will be the best multi-role on the planet once it enters service. Why do you think it won't be?
Kinda feel bad that we won't have a co-pilot in the backseat who'll have to deal with us doing crazy Ace Combat stuff.
>>35671606>"What are you doing!?">"Flying down this railgun/canyon/tunnel!"
>>35671606That's the one thing about Ace Combat games. You never have the guy in the back. I, for one, would have welcomed the back seater in AC5
>>35671652"ARE YOU INSANE!?"
>>35671606>>35671628>>35671652>>35671674I like to imagine the guy in the backseat was voiced by my favourite voice actor.
>>35671652>>35671674poor bastard would die of a heart attack by the end
>>35671589Because people still see it as a gigantic money sinkhole that hasn't had the best of prototype trials--not to say that isn't true, but the F-35's development history has been definitely more public than previous fighters.
>>35671674>>35671652I'd like to hear the backseater commenting when the player does an F-4 run through the story. >You know we could be in any fucking jet we wanted to right now. >Something nice and flashy like an F-22?>Something that would conveniently leave me on the ground when you take on an entire fucking squadron by yourself!
>>35671628>>35671674>>35671689"Why am I even trying to act surprised"By the end of the game, s/he'll probably have 110% faith in you and trust you like family.
>>35671300>>I was born in Belka, yes.Belka a shit. Osean pride, nation wide.
>>35671727https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkrtxDdaWuMIt isn't true. Just look at every other development cycle of modern planes.
>>35671652>HOW ARE WE GOING THIS FAST?!"I don't know, but we need to go faster!">OUR WINGS WOULD HAVE SHEARED OFF WITH THAT LAST MANEUVER. HOW IS THIS THING STILL FLYING?>copilot's face whenever he receives orders to suit up
>>35671300"Of course I'm Belkan." You huff up your chest with a bit. Remember what Detlef taught you. Be proud of your heritage."Cool!" Lara grins. "Never actually seen a Belkan before!""We... look pretty much like anybody else." You frown. You're not sure if all Emmerians were this eccentric or if it was just this girl in particular."Anyways, I'm sure you'll fit right in with our little squad!" Lara laugh as she slaps you on the back. "Hey, you wanna meet the rest of our flight?">Um, sure.>Actually, I want to take the Phantom for a spin.>Don't tell me you're in charge...>Other
>>35671787>>Um, sure.Let's meet and greet
>>35671787>>Um, sure.>>Don't tell me you're in charge...
>>35671787>>Actually, I want to take the Phantom for a spin.TEST DRIVE
So what kind of plane should be next on our hitlist to top tier? I'm thinking of going for an F-16 or Mirage.
>>35671959Whatever Merc puts up for vote.
>>35671959A 4th gen... I'll accept the F-16.>>35671978Do I need to shove you A-10fags into the ground again?
>>35671959lets wait to see what we getA-10 XMAS
>>35671959F-16, and then F-15, and then F-22. F-35 a shit.
>>35671959IF you can't make an f-5E do everything you need in an AC game you are doing it wrong.
>>35671995oh god that thing was fucking nuts in ace 6
>>35671985>Do I need to shove you A-10fags into the ground again?What's that? I can't hear you over the sound of my BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
>>35671997>going past the F-15F-15 is love. F-15 is life.
>>35671985You are literally a shit, sir. Say that the A-10 sucks to the infantrymen that love it.
>>35671959Mirage 2000 and a Super mirage 4000
>>35671959I wonder if we'll get a Strangereal prototype plane that's mid tier instead of top tier?
>>35671985try it bitch!
>>35671959F-16 works. >>35672013You CAN do it, it doesn't mean it isn't really annoying to go back and re-arm because you ran out of guns and missiles every couple of minutes.
>>35672021Russia made a better BRRTGsh/AK -630 says go home
>>35672027Infantryman here and we couldn't tell the difference between a -16 or a -10 providing CAS unless he opened up with the BRT, which was largely ineffective unless the dickers were setup perfectly for a gunrun, which they never were.
>>35672021>>35672027>>35672033I'll just link y'all to my post on /k/.>>23307825
>>35672047Isn't that the gun that would literally shake apart the planes it was mounted on.
>>35672088yep....I think it killed a pilot or two
>>35672072All the infantry I've talked to loved it, because after its initial run, it could sit there and loiter.
>>35672085Bah, just copying and pasting it thenThe A-10 is a great plane for what it was designed to do. However, what it was designed to do is obsolete in a modern environment.The A-10 is actually the least survivable plane for CAS in this day and age. While yes, it is heavily armored, its fault lies in its obsolete design. The A-10 is designed for going low and slow, trying to soak up damage from enemy AA fire while taking out advancing columns of Soviet armor. However, that in and of itself makes it obsolete. By going low and slow, the A-10 exposes itself to enemy fire from both SPAAGs and MANPADs. It was taken down by both in Desert Storm. A conventional multi-role flies far above the engagement ceiling of both of those systems. Thus, the multi-role is more survivable because the best defense is avoiding being shot in the first place.Further, the GAU-8 is useless for taking on enemy tanks. A 20 or 25mm gun will have the same effect on both soft and lightly armored targets as the 30mm. The A-10's main weapon for taking on the enemy is the missile. The Maverick missile, for taking on enemy armor. If you can bring that same weapon system on a different plane that is more survivable and can fill more roles than the A-10, wouldn't you?
>>35672085>links to reply to glorious m'ladyUhh that ain't on /k/...
>>35672023I'd love it of we could pull a Pixy and pilot an F-15 and, sometime later, a Morgan.Unfortunately, we already did the whole emulating Pixy thing in GBFQ.Oh well, that just means we can pilot an F-14D, Mod it into a -Zipang- and then, hopefully, change to a Falken or Nosferatu.
>>35671959I want to say F-14 cause not saying it would be a sin but an F-16 or an F-15 would do.
>>35672125That's what the post number is, no clue why it didn't work.
>>35672106nah it hasn't done that much damage, sure it destroyed a couple airframes, but no fatalities.its broken switches and gauges and canopies and landing gear and lights and rattled things loose and cracked the airframe, but that was all before they put mechanical burst limiters on it so it can't do that any more, it's why you only see SU-25's doing half second bursts, the gun is limited from doing more
>>35672109So could everything else they put over my head unless it was a shitty marine harrier or a -15, both of which guzzled too much fuel being useless.
>>35672162So basically, it's another piece of slavshit. Brilliant, I guess?>>35672113Dude knows what's up.
>>35672197Su-25 can carry a better payload, that's what matters anyways.
>>35672197>So basically, it's another piece of slavshit. Brilliant, I guess?More like another piece of military tech during its trial run, you should see the reports from the F-111 and the UH-60's initial production batches and the problems they had keeping them in the air. Both were dropping like flies for the first couple years they were introduced.
>>35672162The Su-25 doesn't us the GSH-6-30, it uses the GSh-30-2.
If it was possible to use it, I wonder if an XF-108 Rapier would be good. From my knowledge it seems to the the next gen F-4.
>>35672209Its performance in the real world has been... disheartening, to say the least. It's basically proof that aircraft like itself and the A-10 have no real place in a modern threat environment, because "hanging around for a while" while going low and slow, when the enemy has MANPADS and actual AA systems anywhere within 10 miles of it is a bad fucking idea.But they're great at killing poorly equipped savages, sure.
You know what would be REALLY awkward?>Pixy tries to hit on us in a bar, and he doesn't know we're a pilot.>He tries to win us over by telling us about his battles during the Belkan War.>Goes into detail about shooting down one guy with a stupid looking emblem on his plane.>We recognize that emblem as our father's... and then we slap him right then and there. So hard that the entire room feels it.
>>35672246Indeed it does, I was thinking of the SU-25TM which had them fitted, though it seems they've since replaced them with 30-2's
>>35672300If that happened, we'd do more than slap him, I'd say take one of his hands off.
>>35672158Post numbers are not site wide. They're board wide. There's a different format for cross-board links.
>>35672331I did not know that. I've never done cross board linking before.
>>35672300>hurting our buddy>ever
>>35672230Saying "BUT OTHER THINGS HAD PROBLEMS TOO" doesn't mitigate the fact that the SU-25 is an overhyped piece of shit that gets shot down fairly regularly in regional conflicts by any force that is even marginally equipped with MANPADS, much less serious air defense systems.Not even the A-10 has suffered as many losses.
>>35672361Not sure how much of a Buddy he is if his idea of winning us over involves fighter pilot attitude and a story of how he killed our dad.
>>35672378>Not even the A-10 has suffered as many losses.Largely because it's not been shot as nearly as much.They are both very good at what they do against dirt farmers in africa, but are shit for anything in the modern world.
>>35672378That's probably because of pilot skill.
>>35672416Well, considering the nature of all operators of the SU-25, that's a given.
>>35671787"Um, sure." You nod."Well, come on, then!" Lara hooks an arm around yours and basically physically drags you away. "Have fun!" Samantha waves cheerfully. "You don't have to drag me like this." You grumble."Sorry, sorry, it's just that we were waiting for a fourth pilot FOREVER. Now we've got a full flight!" Lara says happily. "I thought Artemis had plenty of pilots." You say."Well, yeah, but not a lot are girls and the boss is apparently very insistent on keeping squadrons single sex or something.""Wait, does this mean-""Yep! Artemis' very own all female squadron!" Lara chuckles. "Come on, I'll show you the others!"With that, Lara brings you over a very nice looking barracks complex. It was actually hauntingly familiar, since it followed the standard Osean military barracks layout. Lara leads you inside to the rec room, where you see two other girls seated at a table."Hey! We got our fourth!" Lara says cheerfully, pulling you in with her. "How about we all get ourselves acquainted?""Ah, well," You blink, trembling a bit from mild stage fright. "I'm Karla Weiss. I guess I'll be flying with you all from now on.""Wonderful!" One of the pilots, with long silky black hair smiles. She had the air of a noblewoman about her, or at least somebody who was exceedingly polite and tasteful. Looked to be Osean. "I'm Lilian Dupont!""Amy Gates!" The second pilot grins and salutes. "Nice to meet ya!""Hmmmm, a Belkan, huh? We certainly have a very colorful unit on our hands." Lilian smiles."You don't have any problem with that?" You raise an eyebrow. You've lived you whole life under Oseans giving you shit, even if they didn't mean to, so you believed were a bit justified in being a bit cautious toward her."Not unless you make it one." She says simply and curtly before taking a sip from a cup of what you presume is tea. "Hmmmmmmmm." Amy glowers at you. "I'm holding my opinion on you."(cont)
>>35672514"Are you Osean, too?" You ask."Ustian."Oh. OH. This was going to be a bit awkward."I see." You say simply, not wanting to dig your grave any further.Lilian seems to sense the souring atmosphere and claps her hands together to grab your attention. "Ah, and I suppose you were given one of the starter planes, correct?">Yep. You got a lot of heaps of junk sitting around here.>Have to admire the classics.>Other
>>35672533>>Have to admire the classics.
>>35672533>Have to admire the classics.
>>35672533>>Have to admire the classics.All planes are good. Hell, Silber 1 used an F-4
>>35672533>>Have to admire the classics.We totally asked for this. Honest.
>>35672293That and the SU-25 doesn't have an Infared MAW system to detect MANPAD launches, while the A-10 does.
>>35672533>Have to admire the classics.Unfortunately the only classic there was the Draken which we didn't pick.
>>35672588The F-4 is classic. Or old I guess depending on how you look at it. I like it because of the victory of thrust over aerodynamics.
>>35672565So it's even worse than I believed. Holy shit.
>>35672629I really do wish the old American Flying Brick theory would come back.
>>35672514>Amy GatesIs her dad named Greg?
>>35672646Nah anon, America is only top tier shit these days!Smooth and sexy all the way!Not that we actually need it or anything but hay we gotta spend that money somehow!
>>35672646The reasoning the F-22 was chosen over the F-23(RIP) was because it was more maneuverable and there was the possibility for a navy variant. The maneuverability was seen as important because stealth would lower engagement ranges to an extent nobody knew.
>>35672732Moot point if there's no one with other stealth fighters for us to fight.
>>35672732In retrospect, prolly a good choice to go with the 22 now that we're seeing actual testing done on lasers meant to intercept incoming A2A missiles.
>>35672732Which is retarded seeing as they have done the exact opposite by ignoring the chance of a navy variant and going full BVR+Stealth on the thing.Fucking idiots picked the raptor of the widow
>>35672533"Have the admire the classics." You say."Indeed." Lilian nods. "Which one did you pick?""The F-4." You say."Okay, I have to admit, you do have some taste in planes." Amy nods."What do you all pilot, then?" You ask."F-15C." Lara laughs."Typhoon." Lilians smiles."A-10." Amy replies.>Interesting setup.>I feel... oddly out of place.>Other
>>35672784>Interesting setup.>I feel... oddly out of place.
>>35672784>>Interesting setup.>>I feel... oddly out of place.
>>35672784>"A-10." Amy replies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73oZgrbcGM0Waifu obtained
>>35672784>>Interesting setup.>>35672778>Fucking idiots picked the raptor of the widowIt was actually a good choice. The F-22 is no slouch in BVR combat, and its stealth is by far the best. Further, in the only place where the F-22 is really in danger, the dogfight, it can outperform literally everything in the skies.
>>35672784>"F-15C." Lara laughs.Love. >Interesting setup.>I feel... oddly out of place.
>>35672588Majority of the Tiger II, Draken and Fishbed variants had shit tier radars that couldn't use BVR missiles and didn't even have built in chaff/flare dispensers. They also had comparatively low range and payload to any of the Phantom combat variants. On the other hand the Phantom actually having a radar with range but shitty to no memory means you need 2 people to use it.
>>35672827We're going to have to work hard to win her love anon! National differences and all that.
>>35672784>Interesting setup.Once we show results we can get newer shit.
>>35672828They were equally good choices, why couldn't they pick both and tell the marines to go fuck themselves in the arse and can the JSF program?
>>35672354you use three >'s for cross-board linking instead of 2, then the board and the post after that. The post you wanted would be >>>/k/23307825>>35672784>Interesting setupWe've got 2 Air sup, a mud mover, and a multirole. that's a fine formation to have as a base.
>>35672784>Interesting setup.We need to start killing people for money soon.
>>35672863The F-35 is looking like it'll be better than every other multi-role currently, and far better than the planes it is going to replace.
I was so hype for this and I know nobody cares what I wanted, but I just gotta say I'm kind of disappointed our entire squad is female. I like it in Idolrunner because they have to be girls, and it's not the female MC just the lack of any close male perspective. I'll just focus on the planes, it's still only early in thread 2 anyway I could be jumping the gun so I'll withhold judgement.
>>35672863>tell the marines to go fuck themselves in the arse They already do that.>>35672778Pretty sure it came down to the Navy having a next-gen fighter or more carriers and they wanted more carriers.
Okay so what kind of Special weapons should we have? I mean, we could always go for unguided bombs...
>>35672908Merc prefers to right girls over guys and also wants to avoid husbando/waifu wars.
>>35672910Depends on the mission and what Merc lets us have.
>>35672908So much /u/ boating is about to happen, I'll do it for you anon. I'll do it for you, and do it for free.
>>35672891Well sure, the plane will be better, but that is the only acceptable result when you spend more than the entire planet's quantity of currency on the fucking thing.Fuck you LM, go be incompetant and corrupt elsewhere.
>>35672956NeverBecause /tg/ and by extension Karla generally like the F-22 better.
>>35672784>I feel... oddly out of place.
>>35672972Or maybe we somehow get our hands on an old ADFX-01 that's collecting dust at Grunder Industries.
>>35672784"That's... an interesting setup." You say. The Typhoon and F-15C were basically top of the line fighters, with the A-10 being a very good dedicated ground attack craft. That left your F-4 somewhere in the middle. However, you did notice one thing odd."Wait, how come you get so much better plane than me?" You raise an eyebrow."Because you need to earn it, silly!" Lilian chuckles."That's right!" Lara nods. "They're not going to just hand over an expensive plane to a new recruit like you, right?""You have a point." You concede. "I suppose I have to prove my worth in missions?""That's right!" Lara nods. "Actually, you came just in the nick of time! We're shipping out to Estovakia soon, so you'll definitely be getting into the action!">Great. When do we start?>I'd like to break in my Phantom first, though.>Other
>>35672965But it isn't.The current unit price(which doesn't matter) is $90 mil, which is cheaper than some of its less advanced competitors.Further, its cost per flight hour isn't very high either.Face it, the F-35 isn't that expensive. What WAS expensive was the program cost, but that is normal for modern military programs.
>>35672995>I'd like to break in my Phantom first, though.
>>35672995>>I'd like to break in my Phantom first, though.
>>35672995>>I'd like to break in my Phantom first, though.Let's fly and pretend our computer is actually our co-pilot.
>>35672995>Great. When do we start?
>>35673018>implying our Dad's ghost won't be our co-pilot
>>35672995>>Great. When do we start?>>I'd like to break in my Phantom first, though.One thing I am not getting however, is that we're not a fucking new recruit. We were in the war. I guess it's company policy and all (as well as quest ramping up power levels) but it seems kinda dumb to give someone a plane they could possibly get shot down in because of lesser performance than a better quality one you already have.
>>35672910Since we tried going for guns
>>35673041Unfortunately, this IS Castlevania, not the Army.
>>35673051Actually we're probably be forced to use only our guns against some ace someday, might as well go all guns.
>>35673041Well I thought we were only really in one battle before the Burst missles took us out and left us in the hospital for the duration of the conflict.
>>35672998If the cost of designing and building the plane, all the way up to where you finally start charging 90 mil for each one is astronomical, then the cost of each plane is astronomical, you cannot just treat alll that spending and debt and blown budgets as nonexistent the moment the first one rolls off the production lines.
>>35672995>>Great. When do we start?>>I'd like to break in my Phantom first, though.>>35672998>the F-35 isn't that expensive. What WAS expensive was the program cost>the plane wasn't expensive, but building the plane was expensive...
>>35672995>I'd like to break in my Phantom first, thoughI guess this sort of setup has to do with the company's goals. These fighters act as escorts for the A-10 when it takes out heavily armored targets.
>>35673089Needs more dakka.
>>35673081>you cannot just treat all that spending and debt and blown budgets as nonexistentBut they can and they do. You can thank the petrol dollar.
>>35673076that was one big battle we were in, there was the entire rest of the war we flew in outside of that battle before it
>>35673065True, like I said. >>35673076I read it as we got sent to the hospital for awhile but then got back out to see a little more action because we did get assigned to another squadron.
>>35672948I do understand the reasons, but then I realized it was the way the audience behaved that resulted in this and maybe I'm a bit bitter because I never was a shipper. And I try not to be on that uboat anti uboat shit, but you can't deny that a set up like this encourages lesbian waifuing, which is really has the same problems because "my waifu > your waifu". But anyway it's set in by now and I'll just deal with it and not waste any more posts on muh feelings.
>>35673126Don't worry, Anon. I'm sure we'll find some nice infantryman or tanker to husbando.
So I assume that "F-4" means "F-4E" in this quest. I don't exactly like the idea of not having an internal machine gun.
>>35673081You have to realize ALL modern projects have extremely high costs. Further, the price is expected to be 80 mil, which really is not astronomical when you look at its competitors. Like seriously, look up the cost of the Eurofighter or Rafale.>>35673102The research for the plane is expensive. The more you build, the more you bring that cost down. That's the burden of developing new things, the programs are REALLY expensive, but the product is not.
>>35673164Cannon.And Navy F-4Js without cannons kicked the Army's ass.
>>35673172>You have to realize ALL modern projects have extremely high costsI'm well aware of that, but using that excuse to justify the stupidly high spending on the JSF program is retarded, you don't go spending trillions of dollars on every project, and you don't do that on something as relatively 'cheap' as a single seat airframe.
>>35672995"I'd like to break in my Phantom first. Make sure it's working right." You say. "Sure thing!" Lara nods. "I'll make a call to the ground crew to get it up and running.""I'm still uncomfortable with being treated like a recruit, though." You sigh. "I DID have actual combat experience.""Circum-Pacific, right?" Lilian asks."Yeah." You nod."Well, that war was five years ago. Company policy is to treat all new hires as recruits so we can get a proper gauge of your abilities." Lilian continues on."Isn't that unnecessarily dangerous?" You raise an eyebrow."Well, look at it this way." Amy sighs, resting her chin in her hands. "We're mercenaries, not soldiers. Everything we do is motivated by profit, not patriotism. Why risk a super expensive plane on an untested pilot when you can just shove them into a cheap one, instead?""I guess you have a point." You concede."Anyways, let's spice things up." Lara grins. "Who do you want your OPFOR to be? Me, Lilian, or one of the other pilots we got around here?">Lara>Lilian>Random Pilot>Other
>>35673221>Random PilotWho could it be?
>>35673200You do when it is the best multi-role in the skies. That's the price of excellence.Program cost also gets divided by the amount made. Considering how there will be hundreds of the thing...>>35673221>>Lara
>>35673164It's just been referred to as a modernized F-4.>>35673221>Lara
>>35673221>Who ever feels like flying against me.So I guess?>Random Pilot
>>35673221What ever we do load up with at least 15 20mm gun pods.
>>35673221>Lilianlet's take on the typhoon
>>35673163I was going to say husbandoing would have the same problems, but that may be simpler because since most of us are men we'd make that decision based on bro factor. And a character's bro level is very easy to determine, waifus are largely based on personal taste.
>>35673291the 15 gunpod one was 7.62 miniguns, not vulcans, they could only fit 3 of those
>>35673221So what do you think our modifier is for getting our shit kicked in?
Any ideas for paintjobs after we do something to distinguish ourselves?
>>35673338Bright pink with stars
>>35673314shhhh I was trying to sneak it pass the radar.
>>35673338Whatever it is, we need shark teeth.
>>35673338Flat gray with only two pieces of embellishment- our squad emblem and our company logo.And under the cockpit, only "Valkyrie."
>>35673338shark teeth with maybe a rose caught in them
>>35673367>>35673338Personally I like subtle better myself, so something like this.
>>35673338Well if we wanna be That Guy, do something that'll make the enemy's eyes wanna vomit just by looking at our garish color scheme.
>>35673367I can dig that.
>>35673386So a Belkan flag? That'll end lovely.
Rolled 19 (1d100)>>35673221>Random PilotMystery box
>>35673367I suggest painting the wings with angels wings along the length.
>>35673367If we go with that, add small wings behind the cockpit at about mid back to give us wings.
>>35673442>>35673446You guys have excellent taste
>Phantom airframe against eagle>winning without handicapsHow about>Clean phantom>25% internal fuel>Eagle has 3 empty 600USG tanks>full internal fuelStart neutral WVR, guns only. Would still favour the eagle.
>>35673221"An F-4 going straight up against an F-15C or Typhoon? I think we all know how that would end." You grimace. "I think I'd take my chances with another pilot.""Party pooper." Lara pouts."Oh, don't mind her." Lilian chuckles. "Lara is always looking for an excuse to fly.""It'd be funny if you ended up going up against one of those Alpha Flight guys. They'd definitely tear you a new one." Amy says.Yeah, thanks a lot for that bit of encouragement."Anyways, I'll go see which of the trainers are on duty." Lara sighs.>roll 1d20
>>35673442>>35673446Yes Yes YesValkyrie theme go
>>35673465>>35673446>>35673442>>35673367I must agree.
Rolled 4 (1d20)>>35673500
>>35673446That's a really good design. If we really wanna push it, paint a valkyrie itself from the neck down just below the cockpit, so our helmeted head is the valkyrie's head.
Rolled 5 (1d20)>>35673500
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>35673500
Rolled 3 (1d20)>>35673513>>35673521>>35673528well looks like we're getting pasted by Alpha...
Rolled 6, 4, 10, 13, 2, 18, 8, 5, 11, 19, 14, 12, 15, 3, 9, 15, 14, 5, 13, 15, 16, 4, 13, 16, 14 = 274 (25d20)is the RNG bad?
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>35673548yes
Rolled 10 (1d20)>>35673500guh
>>35673548just luck. You rolled 9 single-digits and close to 16 double-digits
>>35673548It's certainly random
>>35673521At least we're not in an F-117
>>35672950He managed to avoid that in Magical Girl Hunter so there is hope
Rolled 5 (1d20)>>35673613We would be better off with stealth than in a glorified missile truck
>>35673500"Oh boy." Lara's face is a mixture of both horror and amusement as she hangs up the phone. "It looks like it's Wolf's turn to traumatize nuggets.""Hoooooo boy, you're fucked." Amy snickers. "He's gonna eat you alive." "This certainly is an unfortunate turn of events." Lilian sighs. >Ask who this Wolf guy is.>Head for the hangar. You'll find out in the air.>Other
>>35673638>Head for the hangar. You'll find out in the air.Cue GUNPODS
>>35673638>Ask who this Wolf guy is.
>>35673638>>Head for the hangar. You'll find out in the air.Lets see what he's made of instead of the talk.
>>35673638>Ask who this Wolf guy isAny of you Ace Combat freaks recognize that symbol?
>>35673638>>Head for the hangar. You'll find out in the air.Can't be worse than that fucking burst missile.
>>35673638>Head for the hangar. You'll find out in the air.
>"He's gonna eat you alive." Seems like some advanced aircraft and ace. Since we're in a freaking F-4, might as well try to go for guns. We're NOT going to win a missile fight.>>35673638>Head for the hangar. You'll find out in the air.
>>35673638>>Head for the hangar. You'll find out in the air.
>>35673667reverse google search suggests that the insignia is from a guy in gundam AGE
>>35673638>Ask who this Wolf guy is.He can't be THAT bad right?inb4 he's Artemis' top pilot
>>35673667No, most of the enemy aces go down pretty fast so I never bothered to remember their insignia.
>>35673681>F-4>winning a gunfightYou ALWAYS go for missiles first. ALWAYS. Even if you don't hit, you force them on the defensive.
>>35673681Agreed, you can dodge a missile, but it's hard to dodge a bullet.
>>35673638>Head for the hangar. You'll find out in the air.I believe we have been issued a challenge. Belkan pride demands us to meet head on!
>>35673696Keep in mind that he probably has a better plane than us (no shit we're in a F-4) and in Artemis that means ace.>>35673708Then no active or semi radar. Go infrared. We can use both.
It seems y'all don't know dogfights work. It's time to watch somethignhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCFMX5z-ed4
>>35673708That only works when you're not going against a top tier craft with a master of none like the Phantom
>>35673738And it seems we're going to have to shut off radar too. Emissions may alert him.
>>35673740https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCFMX5z-ed4>>35673742No, it doesn't. A missile will kill someone dead whatever they're in. They're also far more maneuverable than the F-4.
Here, just watch this for a primer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgLLBsmFrkI
>>35673638>Ask who this Wolf guy is.What's his combat experience record and what does he usually fly?
>>35673758And F-22 which he probably is in invalidates you. we don't have advanced helmet targeting either. Nevermind ever getting a lock.
>>35673795We rolled a 5 not a 1, doubt it's a 5th gen plane we're going up against.
>>35673795If he's in an F-22, we're screwed no matter what. You can't get a lock on it, you can't outmaneuver it to get it in your sights. You can't even detect it. You are helpless.Shit like this happenshttp://theaviationist.com/2013/09/19/f-22-f-4-intercept/
>>35673750Guess how you know when to fire your guns?Fire control radar
>>35673750His radar will find us anyways, we wouldn't even be able to detect it.
>>35673840The best thing to do then is to survive as long as possible. There's something impressive in just surviving.
>>35673848At least we have experience with guns. That's a plus already. Guns are less dependent on radar then radar guided missiles. And I seriously doubt we'll get top-of-the line infrared missiles either.>>35673862Not necessarily, all we need to do is stay near the ground, and hope to eyeball him before he does.
I like how we're doing this. We're professional, know what's likely to happen to us and we're mostly taking it in stride as the knocks we have to take to get somewhere better. Good job /tg/, another MC I can get behind.
>>35673838If its not a gen 5 plane, it's something just as bad, like a Terminator, Berkut, or S/MTD. We're still screwed, because those planes are miles ahead of our Phantom
>>35673865Kinda have to agree. We are screwed no matter what. Surviving top of the line aircraft has to be a feat in of itself while piloting an F-4.
>>35673923We aren't going to survive for any appreciable amount of time.
>>35673934Unless he can missile us 50 ft above the ground, we may be able to survive some. At that level, terrain would be a factor. Cross your fingers we have mountains.
What if this pilot uses a heavily modified last gen aircraft?
>>35673964He can. >>35673974We have a better chance. Assuming we've got a pimped out F-4, we have a decent chance of winning.
>>35673974Then there is no difference compared to our totally obsolete aircraft. It's like comparing land lines to the iPhone 5s or iPhone 6.
>>35673964Oured has no appreciable mountains nearby and I think they'd probably frown upon us trying to fly around the city.
>>35673974Still dead, because he has WAY more experience than us, and he's using a plane he's practically bonded with, while we're using a plane we've never flown before.
>>35673998well shit. It's going to be a test of low-level flying skills and eyeballs.
>>35673974He probably is, I'd guess a Rafale or a Flanker.>>35673997The pastebin list it as a 'F-4 Super Phantom' and last thread said the plane was modernized.
>>35674020Make sure guys, the lower we go, the more the ground will cover us. and if we go low enough and close enough to him he's going to have to be under us to gun us. >>35674029If the upgrades are anything worth mentioning, it'll be worth an F-16 already.>MFW when I realize this tactic gave us Ronald Dahl books.
>>35674061Either we risk a low level turning fight (the phantom is crap for this so we have at most 1 turn before we go back to low level cat and mouse and try again) or we use up all the time
>>35673638You briefly wonder if you should ask what this Wolf guy is like, but you decide against it. True aces gauged each other in the only place it mattered: in the sky. "Whoever he is, I'll find out for myself." You say as you make your way to the hangar."Should we get the others?" Lilian asks."At the very least, it's going to an interesting show." Amy shrugs."Hey hey hey, you shouldn't treat an aerial battle, even a mock one, as a gambling pool!" Lara sighs. "Five bucks she doesn't even last thirty seconds." Amy slaps a bill on the floor."You're on." Lilian responds.You ignore them and head off to the hangar, where your Phantom is sitting. Of course, being a newly allocated fighter, it was still painted a dull navy grab with no identifying marks. Very plain."Already figuring out how to paint it, right?" You hear a gruff voice."Um, maybe." You say, not wanting to admit it. "Excuse me, but are you-""I'm Bravo Flight's chief mechanic, which means I'm the guy taking care of your birds." Says a short, elderly man with a wrinkled face that resembled tanned leather. "You can call me Smokey.""Okay... Smokey." You nod awkwardly. "So when can I get my plane repainted?""When you get ace!" Smokey grins. "Kills before joining up with us don't count, so you're gonna have to start from the bottom!"Wonderful."All right, so is the plane ready to fly?" You ask."Just gotta hop in the cockpit and drive it out!" Smokey nods. "She's already loaded up to bear. Training rounds and missiles.""UGMs, I assume?""Of course!"(cont)
>>35674129UGMs, or Universal Strike Munitions, were the standard armament on any warplane. Small, light, and cheap, these missiles could engage both air and ground targets, making them extremely versatile. Their only drawback was that they didn't pack all that much punch compared to larger missiles, had a very short effective range, and their tracking systems weren't all that great. However, planes could carry ungodly numbers of them, which was why they were commonly preferred."All right, I'll be heading out, then." You say, slipping into a flight suit and donning a blank white flight helmet."Good luck! Don't die too fast! I got money running that you'll last longer than 40 seconds!" Smokey waves.Ugh.You drop into your Phantom's cockpit, going through the standard startup checklist. Satisfied that everything appeared to be in working order, you taxi out to the runway, where you see another aircraft idling.It was a white F-22 with a bright red wolf's head painted on the side. Well, now you know why everybody wasn't expecting you to win this."Alpha One, Bravo Four, you are both cleared for takeoff." The flight controller announces.>Try to raise Wolf on the radio.>Just take off and get this started.>Other
>>35674149>Just take off and get this started.Ah hell.
>>35674149>>Just take off and get this started.
>>35674149>Just take off and get this started.Just lie back and think of Belka
>>35674149>F-22 I FREAKING KNEW IT>DIVE DIVE DIVE
>>35674149>>Just take off and get this started.>F-22Aw fuck
At least it wasn't that Crenshaw guy.
>>35674149>>Just take off and get this started.Okay guys, try to survive as long as possible
>>35674149>Just take off and get this started.This is gonna hurt.
>>35674149>Just take off and get this started.Whatever we know this isn't going to end well. Might as well get it over with.
>>35674149>Bet your life savings that you last longer than 40s.>go 2 inches above the treetops
>>35674149>Just take off and get this started.Well shit, still play to win guys.
>>35674149>Just take off and get this started.
Congrats on the 200 followers, Merc!
>>35674149>"Alpha Onewe're up against Alpha flight's lead and we only rolled a 5...what the fuck
>>35674292A 1 probably means going against Klein One
>>35674292We probably would have been against the boss.
>>35674292The pastebin rules are pretty screwed. Maybe it's like GBF quest were if all 3 are under a number it's a critical fail?
>>35674292Who the fuck do we face if we roll a one? Our boss? The Demon Lord himself?
>>35674333No idea what's up with the rules
>>35674333The pastebin looks fine to me. We have a 1d10 roll under system, we roll under a characteristic rank on the d10 and its a success
>>35674389Is that only for fights? Because we rolled 1d20s and no rules for crits.
>>35674407Rules for 1d20 is probably the same as normal.
>>35674407The d10's just for fights. Did any of you guys even read the pastebin, or just skim over it?
>>35674389The pastebin rules look have decent for actual combat.But having a 10 override a 1 is retarded, a crit fail shouldn't override a crit success, especially on such a narrow spectrum as a single d10It pretty much guarantees that we will do nothing but crit fail and we cannot possibly avoid a crit fail unless we roll two 1's every set of dice.The rules would be actually usable if not for that crit fail shit.
>>35674431>Doesn't know how a normal d20 roll worksYou must be new here
>>35674445A 10 does not override a 1, it just cancels the highest roll. Tht's not that bad.
>>35674451well seeing as Merc uses a different variation and ruleset for each quest using D20's he has its hard to figure out what the rules are in a new quest when he's said nothing about them
>>35674149"This is Bravo Four, taking off." You announce."Alpha One, taking off." You hear Wolf announce as well. He sounded... pretty damn young. Younger than you expected, really.Both of your warbirds' engines roar as they push for takeoff speed. You take a glance to the F-22 at your side, but you can't see anything through that mirrored cockpit canopy. However, you're pretty sure he can get good look at you through your older clear canopy. You wonder if he was scrutinizing you, or just plain ignoring you. Eventually, both of your planes lift off from the runway and climb in the air as fast as possible. Sure, the F-22 was better than the F-4 in pretty much every way, but the Phantom was no slouch when it came to pure thrust.(cont)
>>35674461>it just cancels the highest rollWhich would be a 1So a 10 overrides a 1....
>>35674451>doesn't know how Merc used d20sYou must never been here
>>35674482"Alpha One, Bravo Four, this is Loki. I'll be your mission controller for this battle." You hear an unnaturally smooth and confident voice speak through your radio. "We'll be following rules for a standard training engagement. Both planes are only armed with cannons and basic missiles. The battle will be kept WVR, and will be concluded once one aircraft scores a positive kill on the other. If you feel something is wrong, you may disengage at any time. Is that clear?""Alpha One, copy." "Bravo Four, copy.""Alpha One, you'll head west while Bravo Four heads east. You will turn and engage on my mark.""Good luck, nugget." You hear Wolf say, and you could tell it was not for your benefit, as his voice was dripping with a mix of mild condescension and self-confidence. Mostly the latter. Man, if you could shoot this guy down, it would make you feel very, VERY good."Good luck to you too." You reply curtly and your eyes dart around trying to figure out what to do. You can try flying high, that way you had room to dive in case Wolf tried to jump you. Plus, there was plenty of cloud cover to at least visually mask you. Or, you could stay low, where his radar wouldn't be as effective, and he'd be forced to engage you low and slow, negating most of his plane's advantages. But, that left you extremely vulnerable to a diving attack.>Go high.>Go low.>Other
>>35674461>Natural 10s will negate your best roll, even if it is a Natural 1.You're fucking retarded, just like these rules.Merc get rid of your retarded crit shit.
>>35674500>>Go low.inb4 we fail this because of stupid crit fail heavy rules
>>35674500>Go low.>>35674503>>35674484It does not override it, that would imply that it takes the lead. This isn't hard to understand. It also is good, because critfails are never fun.
>>35674484>>35674503You fuckers must never been in VMQ. Fuck off already. Rules work fine. Stop being little bitches.>>35674500>Go low.
>>35674500>Go low.Our only hope of lasting.>>35674484Which leaves us with the next-lowest roll, which can still save us
>>35674503As I've said up front, rules are subject to change if they end up being too broken or unfair. Perhaps you should wait until actual combat rolling starts.
>>35674519These aren't crit fail heavy. How hard is this to understand.If you roll a 10, your highest roll is gone. Only if you roll 2 of them is this a critfail.
>>35674499>Doesn't know Merc uses d20s normally all the timeThe Pot call the kettle Black
>>35674500>>Go highIsn't most dogfights having the higher altitude is better?
>>35674500>basic missiles What does this mean? Active, Semi-, or infrared???http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-to-air_missileIt's like saying you have a Zaku. But is it I, II,or III?>>35674581And you haven't been to GBF quest
>>35674595GBF was the exception. Have you read any other Merc quests?
>>35674581>uses d20s normallyThat implies there is a set standard, which there is not, and even then Merc changes how he uses D20's plenty of times between quests.
>>35674595Basic missiles work exactly like the ones you see in AC. They're fire and forget, but generally do better with an actual radar guiding them.
>>35674595>What does this mean? Active, Semi-, or infrared???Jesus Christ anon, read Merc's posts, he already did an IC info dump about UGM's
>>35674595The only rules changed there were in regards to crits, higher was still better than lower, as it's been in literally every one of Merc's quests that used d20s.
>>35674612>>35674581>all the timeHave you read your own words?
>>35674629Gah. That makes it more unknown. I haven't been playing much AC now, can somebody tell me how the hell they are guided? I'll assume IR, since AC is in-close. But generally being closer to the ground makes missiles less effective, so >Go low.>>35674638That told me as much as saying SUVs move.
>>35674668If you don't know the English language, that's not my fault.
Let me throw you guys an example of how I think this'll work:Karla has a GUN skill of 7 and she has to roll under it to hit someone with a d10, lowest of 3.We roll a 2,8,9. We take the 2, we pass.We roll a 1,10,5. The 10 cancels out the 1 and we take the 5, we pass.We roll 2,8,10. The 10 cancels out the 2, we take the 8, we fail.
>>35674738>being closer to the ground makes missiles less effectiveOnly works for surface to air missiles. In aerial engagements you damn near always want the height advantage, because you can trade it for airspeed or bleed it through aggressive maneuvers without fear of crashing into the ground.>>35674500>Go high.
>>35674750You nailed it.Might want to haveWe roll a 1,6,8. We take the one and Crit SucceedWe roll a 1,10,10. The 10 cancels out the 1, leaving us with a 10. We Crit Fail.
>>35674766>Only works for surface to air missiles.He means in terms of the vampires tracking capability which is diminished unless its laser or radar tracking.
>>35674738AC missiles are generic all direction missiles. Generally I try not to think about it but pick whichever system is better at air-ground.
>>35674766Doesn't having the ground in the background mess with your radar? And lots more heat radiating from the ground than the blue sky.>>35674789There is a system like that, a prototype image-seeking system. But like with all the ones I know of, having the interference of the ground is better.
>>35674766We're still better off going low, because going high means fighting a gen 5 air superiority that can dance around us while we can't even track it on radar in its hometurf
>>35674766>be defending>enemy spike goes active>notch perpendicular>doppler wave shenanigans>???>Profit
>>35674815It doesn't, and it makes it much harder to evade if someone gets you into guns range. Unless you expect SAMs or you're trying to dodge ground-based radar, flying low is a mistake.
>>35674815My (rather admittedly retarded) headcannon is that the missiles have a dual (And shitty because of it) IR/Radar head, which allows it to use both, in a reduced capacity of course, to filter as much interference as possible.
>>35674866Do you expect to beat an F-22 at altitude?
>>35674500You decide to take the fight low. It was dangerous, but it gave you the biggest edge to staying alive. You hand grips the control stick tighter as Loki begins to count down."Three....two...one... MARK!"You immediately dive for the deck, heading as close to the ground as possible. If you were lucky, the ground interference would mess with both the radar and infrared sensors in Wolf's UGMs. You look at your radar, and then roll your eyes when you remember the Raptor has damn stealth features. Your radar wasn't going to pick it up unless it was very close, and at that point you might as well just eyeball it."Smart move, but that's not going to be enough to win."Suddenly, your missile lock warning system screams as Wolf tries to score a radar lock on your plane. You raise your head and see that he's directly above and behind you in a dive to get right behind you.>Pick up speed to get some distance and try to turn on him.>Lure him in close and try for guns.>Other
>>35674886>Lure him in close and try for guns.
>>35674886>>Lure him in close and try for guns.
>>35674834Even IF it worked that way, which it doesn't, you'd be in visual range. Either close to guns or use something that's not radar guided. Don't count on your opponent being a stupid twat.
>>35674886>>Pick up speed to get some distance and try to turn on him.
Rolled 5, 10, 10 = 25 (3d10)>>35674886Forgot his target lock rolls.
>>35674886>Pick up speed to get some distance and try to turn on him.There's no way we can gun him down, not unless he spends the whole sortie in front of us like a mindless double-nugget
>>35674908Lol>>35674886>Lure him in close and try for guns.
>>35674908You see, that would be a crit fail.
Who is our RIO?
>>35674908Did he just hit the mission controller!?
>>35674908hahahahahasuck it wolf
>>35674908HAHA! That's what you get for flying a F-22!
>>35674886Does our F-4 have guns? It'd be really awkward if we were in the model without em'
>>35674929Nonexistant. Replaced with advanced avionics.
>>35674929Don't have one, all rear-seat functions have been taken up by enhanced avionics.
>>35674924Huh...I thought our first display of a crit fail would be wiht us.>>35674939Yes, as mentioned, our plane has been modernized.
>>35674929No one, we don't have a backseater>>35674886>Pick up speed to get some distance and try to turn on him.
>>35674964Thanks missed that.
>>35674929If it's any consolation, we can always name our computer Dave, or something and pretend it's actually sentient.
>>35674886>Lure him into gunsNormally this would be a scenario for either zoom climbing or turning to force an overshoot, but not against an F-22, and not at this altitude.
>>35674964>Yes, as mentioned, our plane has been modernized.Doesn't mean there is a gun.Even so, we probably have one.
>>35674908So does this mean we're really good, he's just being lazy or did our airplane suddenly develop god tier ECM?
>>35674900I don't think you understood that post. At all.
>>35674982It means his radar couldn't get lock with all the ground interference or something. Nothing more.
>>35674982Since he critfailed, I would assume that it was overconfidence on his part. If We Crit successed, we would have god tier pilot skills.
>>35674982It means he either just spilled his coffee on the controls. He sneeze and can't see inside his own helmet... or he just smoked a reeaaaly large seagull.
is this who i think it is?
>>35674908Dice Gods work both ways apparently....
>>35674981If it's a F-4E Phantom like in the games, it should have one.
>>35675024No Dice Gods work their way.
>>35675004>>35675005>>35675015So, enemy error/equipment failure. Works.
>>35675023>>35675023I'd be surprised if it wasn't.The fact that we avoided knowing more about him will make the reveal much sweeter.
>>35675023Razgriz 1 was at the time of unsung war the age of 20 and this guy has the wardog logo (The original sand island squadron) on his plane
Rolled 7, 7, 1 = 15 (3d10)>>35674886However, despite how loud your warning system is shrieking, you never see any missiles actually fire off. You figure your plan actually paid off and his radar couldn't get a solid lock you. He doesn't even try shooting them off in IR mode, either. Meanwhile, you maintain your course, waiting for him to get closer as he'll inevitably commit to his dive and settle for cannons. It's less actual prediction and more just gut feeling, but once you feel he's close enough you hit your air brakes, making sure stay above stall speed. This low to the ground, you did NOT want to stall.>Roll a 1d10 for ACM. Your DC is 5 or lower.
>>35675065The Sand Island Squadron was also officially dead. So there would probably be some issues there. And I doubt he'd be that much of a condescending ass.
Rolled 2 (1d10)>>35675096
Rolled 8 (1d10)>>35675096
Rolled 9 (1d10)>>35675096wheee
Rolled 7 (1d10)>>35675096
>>35675065Didn't it say in the epilogue that Razgriz never flew into combat after the Circum-Pacific War?And wouldn't he be too busy with Edge and their child?
>>35674984I understand it completely, despite the gratuitous jargon. Modern air detection equipment filters return signals of null speed (ie the ground, objects on the ground). So while that trick USED to work, it doesn't anymore.
>>35675097but he really is not being condescending just confident in his skill
>>35675134What are you booing about?
>>35675134No 10s. We made the check.
>>35675157He's apparently hoping we'll stall and crash into the ground.
>>35675043What if it was mechanical sabotage because someone really wanted to score big on the betting pool?
Rolled 9 (1d10)>>35675096>Rolled 7, 7, 1Fuck
Rolled 4, 9, 9, 3 = 25 (4d10)>>35675096Unfortunately for you, it seems Wolf accurately predicted what you'd do, as he immediately hits his own air brakes, slowing down and maintaining his position behind you. You can see tracers fly past your cockpit as he opens up with his cannon.>Rolling for hit and possible damage.(cont)
>>35675176Doubt it, not worth the money to get fired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YRPejj0gUISo we need to pull off something like this at some point in the Phantom. (The scene at the 30-31 minute mark)
>>35675197THATS IT! now do the same. The F-22 has the lowest drag due to its computer design- the F-4 is a carrier jet and a prime example of the American Flying Bricks. Once we get close enough, his guns will shoot over us (aircraft cannons are aimed up a little to get more range) and missiles should be too close to arm. He then has to maneuver and THATS OUR CUE
pft all these fools talking bout the f-35 forgetting the best plane the x-02 wyvern
>>35675255And he can't lower his nose or else hell hit the ground.
>>35675197>12-3 = 9 hp remaining.You feel the distinct thuds and vibrations as several cannon shells slam into your Phantom's hull. However, you damage registration system doesn't mark you as shot down, so you're still in the game. You need to do something to turn the tables on Wolf.You could risk a high G turn to try and get behind him, or at least get a firing solution. Or, you could power climb to get some altitude and then flip over. Worst case, he follows you and you engage him head to head. Best case, he tries to get some distance which gives you a precious few seconds to fire on him.>High G turn. You might be able to get a firing solution on him for just a second.>Power climb and flip over to engage him.>Other
>>35675289>>Power climb and flip over to engage him.We have the engine power for this.
>>35675289>>High G turn. You might be able to get a firing solution on him for just a second.
>>35675289>>Power climb and flip over to engage him.
>>35675309No, No you DONT>>35675289>>35675255
>>35675289>Power climb and flip over to engage him.Who dares Wins
>>35675289>Power climb and flip over to engage him.
>>35675289>Power climb and flip over to engage him.Trying to out-turn a Raptor is tantamount to suicide>>35675264>X-02>Not the FalkenLaser.Beats.Everything.As long as it's not ACI
>>35675325Any better ideas?
>>35675327>>35675328Jesus christ he has enough power to go STRAIGHT UP and gain airspeed. We can't. He'll still be climbing why we flip. Or he'll blast us before that.>>35675342Trying to out CLIMB the raptor is even stupider>>35675345>>35675255He has to pugachev cobra or turn away if we do this.
>>35675379Oh wait isn't he MORE MANEUVERABLE than us as well?
>>35675379Doing the flip assumes you can turn at him before he passes you. He's faster than us.
>>35675379>if we do this.You're still not saying what 'this' is.Explain your fucking plan instead of calling everyone stupid without a better idea
>>35675139There is no other alternative, it's better than nothing since we're talking about modern radars and modern missiles against a phantom's massive RCS. Modern active missiles like the AMRAAM and Adders aren't fooled by chaff, only get more accurate the closer they are, home on jam, and can maneuver higher Gs than your aircraft can take structurally, not to mention physically to the pilot. WVR it's guaranteed you can't make it run out of energy so you might as well eject if he fires more than 1.
>>35675289>High G turn. You might be able to get a firing solution on him for just a second.
>>35675390Trying to climb and flip shouldn't even be considered. Flipping is MANEUVERING in the vertical, assuming we turn faster than he flies.>>35675405>deploy air brakes>Cut engines>nose up glide>He can't match thatOur only advantage is we're a flying brick
>>35675405If I'm reading right, he wants us to slow down more/hit the breaks again and force an over shoot by the F-22 which would give us time hit in the ass. I think at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YRPejj0gUI>otherEssentially the manuever Mugs is performing at the 31 minute mark. This is literally the only thing I can think of.
>>35675289>High G turn. You might be able to get a firing solution on him for just a second.Fucking hell.
>>35675289Okay, there seems to be some debate, so I'll narrow the choices down. >Climb and flip.>Slow down even more.>Other
>>35675445>>deploy air brakes>>Cut engines>>nose up glide>>He can't match that>Our only advantage is we're a flying brickand we're about 40ft off the ground, which is stupid considering we're only just above stall speed from already using our brakes to close with him...
>>35675445Much better, listing your idea instead of calling us names.Which airplane weighs more?
>>35675452This is one of the only times a barrel roll would make sense, too.>>35675459Too low.
>>35675464>>Slow down even more.Deploy airbrakes
>>35675464>Slow down even more.It's crazy, but it might work and give us a chance to win and not just lived long enough
>>35675464>>Slow down even more.With our fingers on the afterburners, just in case.
>>35675468The F-22 does. 43k lb vs 30k lb
>>35675506The F-22 has every advantage. Strange. It's as if it's a modern fighter.
>>35675520Agreed. Not much we can do about it.
>>35675464>Slow down even more.Not much else to do, since the only thing he can't do is out-slow us
>>35675507The F-22 also has less drag, while the F-4 is full of bandages to actually make it fly.
>>35675464>Slow down even more.
>>35675464>>Slow down even more.
>>35675342Falken was unique X-02 was manufactured in small numbers during the belkan war (By the belkans)
>>35675464Well, if the Phantom did ANYTHING better than the Raptor, it was flying really, REALLY slow. You were already getting dangerously close to your stall speed, but all you needed to do was maintain it. There was no way a sleek and ultra aerodynamic craft like the F-22 could stay behind you for long in these conditions.>Roll 1d10 (Need a 5 or lower)
>>35675464>Slow down even more.Deploy drag chute as an afterthought that should be discarded.
Rolled 4 (1d10)>>35675561rollin
Rolled 4 (1d10)>>35675561
Rolled 3 (1d10)>>35675561whee
Rolled 5 (1d10)>>35675561
Rolled 10 (1d10)>>35675561
>>35675580Thank the Razgriz you're late
>>35675580ARE YOU FCKINGME
>>35671294Gah, missed the tweet.Ah well, I couldn't have missed too much right?>436 postsWoah.
>>35675576Not too shabby, anon.
>>35675572>>35675575>>356755764 is our lucky number tonight I guess
>>35675561You gamble pays off, as your Phantom limps along in the air Wolf has no choice but to pick up speed, shooting past you in order to prevent himself from stalling. This gives you a critical window to attack. You could fire a pair of UGMs in IR mode. They'd be slightly less accurate, but this close, it shouldn't even matter. Or, you could try going for guns instead.>Fire missiles. (2 rolls, -1 to AtA)>Fire guns. (1 roll, no penalty)
Rolled 10 (1d10)>>35675645>>Fire guns. (1 roll, no penalty)
Rolled 8 (1d10)>>35675645>Fire guns. (1 roll, no penalty)
>>35675645>>Fire missiles. (2 rolls, -1 to AtA)
>>35675645>>Fire missiles. (2 rolls, -1 to AtA)I'll take two rolls.
Rolled 6 (1d10)>>35675645>Fire guns. (1 roll, no penalty)
>>35675645>>Fire guns. (1 roll, no penalty)
>>35675654PBR, I think you should roll out all those 10s soon or skip a few rolls to regain some good ones.
>>35675645>Fire missiles. (2 rolls, -1 to AtA)
>>35675654>>35675655>>35675658Dice are saying something about the gun.
>>35675654I am never rolling dice again.
>>35675645>Fire guns. (1 roll, no penalty)
>>35675654What did you do to piss off the Dice Gods so?
>>35675696No idea, but i need to find out quick.
>>35675645>>Fire missiles. (2 rolls, -1 to AtA)I think the option is selected first, then we roll when Merc prompts us.
>>35675713I sure as hell hope so.
>>35675681I believe its voting for what to use, not ROLL NOW DOITDOITDOITCalm dont dont jump the gun
>>35675645>>Fire guns. (1 roll, no penalty)Guns are what we're good at and we need the stat bonuses
>>35675645>>Fire missiles. (2 rolls, -1 to AtA)If we're rolling d20's this is probably the safer option.
>>35675645You flip to guns and hit afterburners to try and keep up with the Raptor as long as possible. Eventually, its own acceleration would outpace yours, but you still had a brief window to attack.>roll 1d10 (need a 7 or lower)
Rolled 1 (1d10)>>35675835
Rolled 9 (1d10)>>35675835!
Rolled 7 (1d10)>>35675835DANGER ZONE
>>35675835HAHAHAHAHA>>35675842YESSS YESS YESSS!
Rolled 1 (1d10)>>35675835DICE GODS! I HAVE SACRAFICED MY FIRSTBORN CAT TO YOU! ROLL ME A FREAKING 1!!!
>>35675848>>35675842just hope the last roll doesn't critfail...
Rolled 7 (1d10)>>35675835
>>35675842We're in the DANGER ZONE!
>>35675842>>35675848>>35675852holy SHIT that was close.>>35675865HAHA
>>35675842Nice roll anon
>>35675842You beautiful motherfucker, if possible I would have your children.
Rolled 5 (1d10)>>35675842Rolling for damage...
>>35675865And you did it for nothing! >>35675842At least they listened!
>>35675908Okay, that isn't too bad. At least our opponent has to somewhat respect us now.
>>35675842Should we be giving thanks to Flying Brick theory?>>35675908>5 damageOkay then. How much HP does the F-22 have? We started with 12 right?
>>35675865Behold the fickle and ironic humor of the dice gods, /tg/.
>>35675933How tougher is an F-22 compared to an F-4?
>>35675942I want to say it's made out of tin foil longs the F-4 is a brick. But I know I'm wrong.
>>35675942That's a difficult thing to say. I'd wager that it the F-4 is tougher, but there's nothing out about the F-22's resistance to damage.
>>35675937eh for code geass quest all we need to do isALL HAIL BRITANNIA!!!!!!!!!!! and you get a good roll
>>35675942About 45 years of technological development.
>>35675942Not much, if a F-4 designed for hard carrier landings in like 13, it'll probably be like 7-11
>>35675908>Dealt 5 damage to enemy plane!!And your cannon shots hits home, riddling the rear of Wolf's F-22 with paint stains as it pulls away."Heavy damage to Alpha One's craft!" Loki announces."Damn, not bad, Nugget." Wolf grunts. "Knocked out a tail fin and damaged an engine. How about we just call it a draw here?">Sure, I'll take that.>No, we keep fighting to the end.>Other
>>35675965wait the dice gods are dirty brits!?!
>>35675998>>Sure, I'll take that.Lets not press our luck
>>35675998>>Sure, I'll take that.Honestly we should be happy we achieved that.
>>35675998>>Sure, I'll take that.
>>35675998>No, we keep fighting to the end.We play to the end. Win or lose here doesn't matter that much now.
>>35675998>Sure, I'll take that.
>>35675998>Sure, I'll take that.I dunno, sounds about good.>>35676006Pic Related.
>>35675998>Sure, I'll take that.Don't get greedy
>>35675998>>Sure, I'll take that.I'd do it just to mess with the betting pool.
>>35675998>>Sure, I'll take that.I don't want to accidentally splash the guy or vice versa.
>No, we keep fighting to the end.He's trying to trick us to let our guard down. FINISH HIM!
>>35675998>No, we keep fighting to the end.>Called us nuggetWell, at least now we know who Wolf is>>35675942Phantom's probably tougher, since the Raptor's built to be agile, not robust
>>35675998>>Sure, I'll take that.Mutual Respect.
>>35676006They're actually Americans. Yes, it hurt my head too.
>>35675998>>No, we keep fighting to the end.Win or lose, it doesn't matter.A good fight is a good fight.
>>35675998>Sure, I'll take that.>OtherI'd like to shake your hand.
>>35676021>>35676032>>35676035>>35676042Just saying, that goes against our previous choice of letting the hurt plane go. I know this isn't a real fight, but I'd argue that it's important to keep it the same.
>>35676024I want Saturday to come NOW!
>>35676035"Nugget" is a very general term for new recruits in the Osean military.
>>35676032>Get over here!>Scorpion drag.gif
Rolled 6, 8 - 1 = 13 (2d10 - 1)>>35675998>Sure, I'll take that.Don't mind the dice. Just testing what the missile roll's format would look like if it won.
>>35675998>Sure, I'll take that.This way everyone who said we would be shot down loses their bets Serves them right!
>>35676083It looks like you'd have to apply the modifier to the DC.
>>35676067What's on saturday? SWQ?
>>35676099Code Geass Quest, if the pics are any indication
>>35676099Code Geass Quest, I believe.
>>35676106>>35676107same guy who ran gundam ace quest
>>35676106>>35676107Oh, the "Shirley Insanity" one, I suppose?
So, do we get an informal nickname from our squadmates for what we just did?Making them lose their bets.
>>35676128Wild Card, duh
>>35676119age*>>35676126YEP! god help zero when she gets her hands on him
>>35676128>>35676137I say Trump Card
>>35676137That sounds rather nice.>"Wild Card 4, The Devil's Bedposts"
>>35675998>Sure, I'll take thatWe went up to evaluate the plane. The plane works just fine. If anyone asks, we can explain it as such.
>>35676128I still think our callsign should be Valkyrie. It'd be a killer paintscheme too.
>>35676146>Gundam AgeDid they make ms. Ciel win this time?>YEP! god help zero when she gets her hands on himShirley Plz. Louise Halevy failed miserably at that.
>>35676128>>35676168Okay, so we have an informal nickname for people to call us on the ground, and a callsign when we're in the air. Sounds good.
>>35676168>Inb4 Skull leader colors
>>35676168It will be when we get ace. Till then, they call us whatever they want.
Our new nickname is obvious. "Dogcatcher".
>>35676178you need to read the first two chapters...she is bloodthirsty in a KF battle. That poor jap ace had no chance in hell!
>>35676184Makes sense.To our enemies, we're Valkyrie, the cerulean one-woman air wingAnd on the ground, we're Wild Card, that one girl who throws wrenches in everything.Especially our employer's plans to take over the world
>>35676245Valkyrie or "The Valkyrie"?Personally, I like the latter.
>>35676278Probably the latter when they are referring to us. However, callsign would be Valkyrie. Or Bravo 4.
>>35676278>>35676245Kind of fitting with the whole "Chooser of the Slain" shtick and our somewhat "Knight" like actions.
>>35676234Well that's interesting. Hope she's not SUPER ENHANCED/DRUGGED>>35676245Haha. Now I'm REALLY expecting that twist.ADRIAN DEWINTERRRR
>>35676146Does the Geass quest person have a twitter?
>>35675998"Sure, I'll take that." You say, grinning at the thought of countless personnel on the ground losing their bets."All right. Loki, we're calling it here." Wolf says."Roger that. Exercise is concluded. Alpha One, Bravo Four, return to base."Wolf's fighter banks and takes the lead, as you settle your Phantom just behind him. The landing is smooth and done without incident, considering you've done it over a hundred times before. However, the moment you step out of the cockpit, you are literally dive tackled by Lara."Haha! You actually did it!" Lara laughs. "You actually survived a fight against Wolf!""Is that... something special?" You gasp as you try to get some air back into your lungs."He's like, one of the best pilots here, and you scored a hit on him in a Phantom!" Lara slaps you on the back, hard. "You got some real talent hidden there, it looks like!""I guess." You blink. "It was certainly a surprising turn of events." Lilian smiles. "You cheated out of five bucks." Amy grumbles."Now now, Amy, I think Karla here as amply proved that she belongs with us." Lilian says soothingly."Come on, let's go grab something to drink!" Lara grins as she hooks an arm around your shoulders.>You know what, I really could a drink.>I want to meet Wolf face to face.>Other
>>35676346>You know what, I really could a drink.
>>35676346>I want to meet Wolf face to face.We have a mystery to solve!
>>35676346>>I want to meet Wolf face to face.Burn his image into our eyes.
>>35676346>I want to meet Wolf face to face.Just shake his hand, give the ggs, and all that.
>>35676346>>I want to meet Wolf face to face.Magnanimous in victory, gracious in defeat! That is the knight's path!>>35676306Pic related.
>>35676346>I want to meet Wolf face to face.
>>35676346>>I want to meet Wolf face to face.I hope he's who I think he is.
>>35676346>>I want to meet Wolf face to face.The Karlafag in me hopes Wolf is actually JAGER STURMFUHRER.
>>35676351Cheese-kun confirmed for NTR
>>35676398Please, Cheese-kun's relationship has always been professional.It's Pizza Hut that's getting NTR'd
>>35676346>>I want to meet Wolf face to face.Invite him to drink with us
>>35676432Pizza Hut supports the revolution! ALL HAIL PIZZA HUT!
>>35676442We're still probably too Nugget-tier to drink with him. Though he may be allowed to acknowledge us since we survived.
>>35676479We should make the offer anyway. Its the polite thing to do.
>>35676477Long live Cici's!
>>35676346>You know what, I really could a drink.>I want to meet Wolf face to face.Let's go drink with him, he can buy the first round.
>>35676496Oh we can totally make the offer. I just doubt he'll take it up.
>>35676346>>You know what, I really could a drink.>>I want to meet Wolf face to face.Invite him to come along.
>>35676518A local pizza joint that serves real pizza?I mean, those do exist most places, and the big chains are all shit.
>>35676504Post Lelouch's death CC quest when>>35676518We have Miku for that!I kid. I love Miku/
>>35676346Invite Wolf to drink!In b4 he's under the drinking age
>>35676550That's why we prefer Greenwich Pizza around where I come from.
>>35676554>Implying Lelouch is dead
>>35676346"Just a second." You say as you worm your way out of Lara's grip. "I'm gonna go see Wolf.""Whoa whoa, really?" Lara blinks."Well, it's customary to meet someone you've battled face to face, right?" You blink."That's Belkan honor for you." Lilian chuckles."I'll save you the trouble." You hear a familiar voice, unfiltered by radio interference. You turn to see an incredibly handsome young man standing there in a white jacket. He was pretty much the perfect mental image of the dashing fighter ace.>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.>Try not to drop your spaghetti.>Other
>>35676588Wasn't there talk of a Lelouch in Gensokyo Quest during CIMQ?
>>35676622>>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.
>>35676588I'm still on the bench with that. Sure he already has two Geass eyes (implying immortality), but the ending is so vague that I can't decide.Then again there's the cart dude, hehe
>>35676622>Try not to drop your spaghetti.
>>35676622>>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.We aren't going to fall THAT easily.
>>35676622>>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.gib clay gib
>>35676622>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.
>>35676622>>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.We got dem Belkan genes, he's the one that needs to avoid dropping the spaghetti.
>>35676622>>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.Stay in character.
>>35676622>>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.But>>Internally and secretly try not to drop your spaghetti.
>>35676622>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.>>35676629I have no clue.
>>35676622>Try not to drop your spaghetti.>Drop ALL the spaghettiWe young Jager route now?
>>35676622>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.>Dat imageFFLLLLIIIITTTTT>>35676629Really? I didn't hear that.
>>35676681It was either CIMQ or PJ Witches, and there wasn't much discussion on it, if I'm remembering it right
>>35676622>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip>Try to not let your spaghetti drop anyways>>35676671Genocide Grandpa soon? Please?
>>35676622>Woolf EnneacleHow many girls has he been hitting on this time Merc?
>>35676701Holy crap, Flit is the CEO of Artemis?!
>>35676704I'm going to go out on a limb and say "All of them."
So what kind of man do you think Karla's into in your headcanon?
>>35676622>>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip.Remain cordial and ladylike, like any Belkan Knight would.
>>35676622>Keep that stiff Belkan upper lip
>>35676731Tough, solid, honest. One who doesn't take any shit and doesn't give any either unless needed. Not a fellow fighter pilot.
>>35676733Yeah, we won't spread our legs just for anyone. We're not that kind of woman!
>>35676719 He lost his girl during the Belkan War and now he wants to destroy Belka?>>35676747So Jager Sturmfuhrer then
>>35676719Only if we start killing Vegan scum
>>35676731Like Aila Jyrkiäinen: Cool and collected, but actually really nice when you get to know her.Also loves meatbuns. That last one is optional>>35676731Judau Plz
>>35676731Someone who could keep up with her. Someone who could take her by the hand and pull her along to go off and do fun things on the town. Someone who would stay with her through and through.
>>35676747I was thinking honest but honor obsessed, caring but not soft and such
>>35676781hm, sorry I was going to put 'not honor obsessed' because we need a brake for BELKAN PRIDE Karla
>>35676766The pieces are falling nicely together! It all makes sense!>>35676769Time vill tell, Anon. Time vill tell.
>>35676622>>OtherDid you have to be so God-dammed pretty?Maximum snark.
>>35676622> Stiff that upper keep Belkan lip
>>35676766Kind of. He doesn't need to be as crazy or headstrong as Jaeger, but I see Carla as either a leader or at most equal choice in a relationship.>>35676781Not so much honor obsessed as down to earth and sensible.
>>35676622"Ah, come to congratulate me?" You ask, trying to keep up that famous Belkan stoicism. "I guess, more or less." Wolf says, flipping one his bangs. A GUY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PULL OFF A HAIR FLIP THAT WELL. "Not bad, not bad at all. Looks like I don't have to worry about who's watching Lara's back, then.""Wait, what?""Ah, we're just old war buddies!" Lara laughs, hooking her arms around both you and Wolf and pulling the two of you close to her. "Fought the good fight saving Emmeria and all that, but Wolf was already a mercenary at that point and I only joined up with Artemis after.""'Old'? Wolf sighs. "That war was barely a year ago.""Yeah, but we're still buddies, right?" Lara grins. Amy just shoots daggers at Wolf with her eyes while Lilian has an amused by wary smile on her face.>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinks.>Let him go on his way.>Other
>>35676731One with a vagina and nice tits.
>>35676815>>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinks.Let's see his actual kill count in this universe.So we can trip a deathflag and turn him into soup like the last time
>>35676815>Let him go on his way.Girl's night out!
>>35676825I don't know. I just can't see Karla being into the ladies.
>>35676815>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinks.SQUIRM YOU FOOLS. THIS IS PUNISHMENT FOR BETTING AGAINST US.
>>35676815>Let him go on his way.Lets get to know our own squad first.
>>35676815>A GUY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PULL OFF A HAIR FLIP THAT WELLWoolf Enneocle is FABULOUS~
>>35676815>>Let him go on his way.
>>35676815>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinksalso goddamnit I don't have have hair flip gifs for this situation
>>35676815>Let him go on his way.
>>35676815>Let him go on his way.Let's get to know our squad first, yeah?
>>35676815>>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinks.Fighter pilots that drink together, drink together!
>>35676815>Let him go on his way.let's get to know our squad without him grand standing.
>>35676815> OtherTell him he owes us a drink and we mean to collect, then drag him to the bar. If he protests, remind him whose fighter lost bits that mattered and whose fighter was an outmatched relic.
>>35676872I'm surprised, I thought people would have one or two of Homura doing a hair flip. Her is FABULOUS~
>>35676815>>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinks.
>>35676815>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinks.
>>35676815>>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinks.This should be amusing.
>>35676815>>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinks.first round on him
>>35676896This is sufficiently amusing. Let's collect a win and force him to buy a round
>All these votesHas the husbando wars already begun?
>>35676815>>Ask Wolf if he's willing to come for drinks.So Wolf is Emmerian right?
>>35676935More than likely.>>35676815>Let him go on his way.
>>35676936Maybe? but he's a mercenary so that's up in the air.
>>35676935It's /tg/ They're trying to fuck the first thing that moves.
Inb4 our enemy pilots are led by Zeheart Galette
>>35676935No idea, and I don't care about that, but he owes us a drink and if we don't go drinking with him now we should say he owes us one next time we're in a bar together.
>>35676815"Anyways, don't let me keep you girls." Wolf laughs as he escapes Lara's grip. " I actually gotta see my mechanic about a certain faulty radar. Hopefully I'll see you in the skies!"With that, Wolf makes his exit."So." You turn to Lara. "You said something about drinks?""Yeah! We got a club on base!" Lara nods rapidly. "Expensive as hell, but I just so recently acquired quite the windfall!""Really?" You raise an eyebrow. "Did you... bet on me?""Ah, well..." Lara laughs and scratches the back of her head. "I figured someone had to bet on your side, you know? I figured you'd draw him at the most."Oh, well this was delicious, getting drunk off the money of the people who bet against you.>Why, thank you, Lara.>Looks like your gamble paid off.>Other
>>35677006>>Looks like your gamble paid off.
>>35677006>Why, thank you, Lara.
>>35677006I probably wouldn't have bet on me either, Thanks though.
>>35677006>>Why, thank you, Lara.
>>35677006>Why, thank you, Lara.>Looks like your gamble paid off.
>>35677006>>Looks like your gamble paid off.Booze all of the booze!
>>35677006>>Looks like your gamble paid off.Stoic Karla is stoic. Also, yay for gambling on the nugget!
>>35677006>Looks like your gamble paid off.
>>35677006>>Looks like your gamble paid off.Give a slight smile as we say it.
>>35677006>Looks like your gamble paid off.>>35677058No.
>>35677006>Why, thank you, Lara. Looks like your gamble paid off. Getting drunk off the money of the people who bet against me sounds delicious!
>>35677006>Why, thank you, Lara
>>35677006>>Why, thank you, Lara.>>Looks like your gamble paid off.Why not both?
>>35677006>>Why, thank you, Lara.>>Looks like your gamble paid off.
>>35677006>>Why, thank you, Lara.Drinks are them. Will they taste like tears of failure or the better vintage: sweet tears of rage?
>>35677058We picked the dour Belkan.Hug is not in a our current loadout.
Who has two thumbs and my vote?This guy: >>35677066
>>35677070For some reason I have Karle going 'Wahahaha' at end of that...
>>35677006>Let him go on his way.It's nice to have someone one your side... Albeit out of pity more than belief in us, sadly.
>>35676935No.Fuck no.This guy is of no interest to our honorable Belkan Knight, but Lara's probably going to get a piece of that in any case.
>>35677006>>Looks like your gamble paid off.Drinking alchol from other people who didn't believe in you. Tasty!
>>35677006>Why, thank you, Lara.Shit she should be our wing-man she's already got our back.
>>35676986We're pulling a magical girl hunter?Eh, not that interested, want to see who else is out there
>>35677098Girls can't love other girls, I've watched them try.
>>35677098She is clearly aware of our superior Belkan genes.
>>35677094I can support that.
>>35677122I think he was saying that Lara claimed him already.
>>35677122I hit submit and realized what you actually said, don't mind me.
>>35677122You're an idiot.
>>35677094... For some odd reason I'm thinking of Mio Sakamoto with her laugh
>>35677122>>35677124I think he meant that Lara is getting the big bad wolf, not knight
I just realized that each Ace Style has their own set of challengesKnight: Less access to high tier planes early onSoldier: Average access to high tier planesMercenary: Easy access to high tier planes early on, but more difficult enemiesMercenaries make the most cash while Knights make the least. The difficulty level of the foes are also scaled to each style, usually outnumbering you.
>>35677152O-oh... well it's not like we liked her anyway! Clearly! I-it's not like she flies an F-15 and believes in us or anything!
>>35677094Wahaha he says. Yes, says I.
>>35677171Doesn't Soldier access to the best plans most of the time and tends to be the hardest to follow through on?
>>35677221Yeah, the middle path usually is the best of both worlds, but there's the constant need to balance who you finish off and who to spare to stay in the middle.
>>35677006"Why, thank you Lara." You say, giving a slight smile. One of the few genuine ones you've ever given. "That means a lot to me.""Yeah, well, we wingwomen gotta look out for each other, right?" Lara laughs. "Come on!"On the way to the club, you get into a small discussion with your fellow pilots and manage to ferret out their callsigns.Lara was apparently called "Bloodstripes", or "Stripes" for short, due to how her plane is painted; dark blue with bright red stripes.Lilian was called "Angel", considering how she always seemed to be where she was needed the most. She helped escort or cover other planes, which earned her nickname. Her Typhoon was white with yellow highlighting.Amy was called "Magnet", due to her A-10 attracting all sorts of enemy fire. Her plane has the typical shark mouth, and was painted in a dark green woodland camo style."Do I get a callsign?" You ask, pointing to yourself."Not until you make ace." Lara shakes her head. "Until then, we're pretty much required to call you Nugget."Wonderful.The four of you finally reach the club, which is dimly lit and oddly smoky, but pretty well filled with people. You all get a private booth in the corner, where you're served your first round of beers.>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up.>Ask what their problem with Wolf is.>DRINKING CONTEST>Other
>>35677253What like:"Oh the guys still up in the air, but I'm almost out of fuel so a chase ain't worth it?"or "I've got the ammo and fuel, I can finish him off" Sort of deal?
>>35677296>>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up.>>Ask what their problem with Wolf is.
>>35677296>>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up.
>>35677296>>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up.If we do the drinking contest, it would be best if one of the others brought it up.
>>35677296>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up.
>>35677296>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up.>DRINKING CONTEST>Ask what their problem with Wolf is.>DRINKING CONTESTIn that order.
>>35677296>>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up.>>35677299Kinda like that, the end mission report usually indicates any changes in Ace Style via meter.
>>35677296>>DRINKING CONTEST>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up.Por que los dos?
>>35677296>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up.Followed by>DRINKING CONTESTGreat Spirit of Sturmfuhrer, shield my liver!
>>35677171What's this 'Ace Style' stuff?Only AC game I'm familiar with was the one that shall not be spoken of, because the cunts won't bring the others to PC.
>>35677349I wonder if Jaeger and Karla ever had drinking contests together.
I'll be honest here, I don't think Karla would be the type to go into a drinking contest. But what the hell? Let's do it!
>>35677296>>Ask what their problem with Wolf is.>>DRINKING CONTESTIn that order.
>>35677359Ace Combat Zero for PS2.
Say, do we get to change loadouts for our aircraft?
>>35677359It's from AC Zero.Ace Style comes with the amount of damage you deal on enemies and targets of opportunity.Knight Style focuses on sparing unnecessary targets.Mercenary Style is indiscriminate destruction.Soldier works on a little of both.
>>35677359"There are 3 kind of Aces. Those who seek Strength (Mercenary), Those who live for Pride (Knight), and Those who can read the tide of Battle (Soldier)."Kind of like a "morality meter". The more Yellow targets (Usually fleeing aircraft, civilian targets, non military infrastructure, etc.) you shoot the more cash you get, and the more Mercenary you become.
>>35677296>Ask your wingmates what they did before joining up>DRINKING CONTEST
>Mercenary Style is indiscriminate destruction.Mercenary all the way.
>>35677436I always had trouble getting the meter exactly in the middle for perfect soldier. It was hard.
>>35677456You run out of ammo. Need to save that shit to destroy aces.
>>35677469Same here. "Reading the tide of battle" isn't exactly easy when you got 12 QAAM's up your tailpipe.Well unless you're a Newtype...
>>35677456You mean Knight since we already picked that first thread?
>>35677404Best thing about the styles is that they're all balanced in their own way.Merc aces are usually outnumbered way more compared to other ace styles.Knight aces are facing off against superior planes while they're usually stuck trying to get good planesSoldiers are a mix of both worlds, and have to try to balance whether or not to spare a target to stay on the middle path.
>>35677510Which is why ACZero is one of the best.HD Petition Never Forget
>>35677510Numbers didn't help Rot squadron apparently. They went down real fast.
>>35677530HD collection never
>>35677530What they need to do is an Ace Combat HD collection.AC4/5/Zero
>>35677530>>35677510So there are Warriors and Soldiers.Warriors who fight for the sake of fighting, and those who fight for glory.Soldiers who do only what's necessary to win.
>>35677538We still have to believe. It's all we have left.>>35677543>No ElectrosphereWe can do better anon.
>>35677543Since we're already dreaming, why not should throw in the original AC3 as well?
>>35677569Damnit I'm going to download a few emulators now.
>>35677595Dision a best villain>download a few emulatorsAdd AC2 to the list man!
>>35677612Or just get a 3DS and AH: Legacy
New thread or Merc finishing with next post?
>>35677569>We can do better anon.Sorry, bro. No amount of hope will turn that dream Into reality.Which is why we must take up arms fight for it!I aready have a plan! We just need to secure a few military bases and aircraft and conquer enough of Russia and China to obtain the industrial power necessary to develop our Superweapon program! And after the first Heavy Command Cruiser is built and in the air, we will finally have enough firepower to conquer Japan and take control of Bandai Namco! They will no longer be able to deny us possession of our rightful HD Ace Combat Remakes!We will show them, we will show them a-...Sorry. Disregard what I just said.That was them Belkan instincts acting up.
>>35677296"Anyways, what did you all do before you joined up with Artemis?" You ask as you take a sip from your mug."Well." Lara sets down her mug. "Considering I'm the leader of this little band, I guess I'll start off. I used to be in the Emmerian Air Force, so I fought against Estovakia a year or two back. Not much to say that you can't grab from a history book.""Then why did you leave the air force?" You ask."Well, you could say that I got a bit addicted to the thrill of air combat. Or just flying in general." Lara smiles. "When the peace deal was signed, I resigned and joined up with Artemis, since the new Estovakian government contracted them to hunt down elements still loyal to the previous regime.""I see.""Well, for me, my family has traditionally been a very philanthropic one." Lilian speaks up, her voice still smooth and lilting. "We donated money to a number of charitable causes, such as hospitals, schools, orphanages, and more. But... I felt I had to contribute a bit more... directly.""So you joined the air force." You nod. "How much did you see?""I was assigned to the Capital Air Defense force, so I didn't see that much action, besides repelling the odd air raid or patrol. After the war ended and my unit was disbanded, I immediately signed up with Artemis.""Well, for me," Amy leaned forward, her face very red. Seemed like she was a lightweight, "this goes back to my childhood. Belkan War days.""Oh." You blink, afraid to say anything more. You knew there were a lot of people on both sides who still couldn't get over that war."You see, my family was forced out of their home early in the war. They were part of a refugee convoy trying to flee the fighting when a Belkan unit started chasing them. Probably would have caught us if an if my Dad hadn't shown up."(cont)
>>35677765No! The idea is brilliant... YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE STRENGTH TO CARRY IT OUT BUT THE REST OF US DO!
>>35677772"You father?" You ask."He was flying an A-10.""Oh. OH.""Yeah, well, something about the sight of that A-10 flying above us, keeping the Belkan tanks at bay... it was just burned into my mind, even as a baby. Unfortunately, Ustio doesn't really have a standing army, so a PMC was my best bet to fly one."That dreamy look of almost childlike wonder on Amy's face was something very surprising.You then tell them your story. About how you started as a nugget in the opening stages of the Circum-Pacific War, and the disaster at Sand Island. The atmosphere suddenly becomes very solemn.>Toast to pilots not present.>Lighten the mood with DRINKING CONTEST.>Other
>>35677765gib Aich Dee
>>35677794>Lighten the mood with DRINKING CONTEST.
>>35677794heads up merc, threads on page 10>Toast to pilots not present.>Lighten the mood with DRINKING CONTEST.
>>35677794>>Toast to pilots not present.
>>35677794The answer is always alcohol>DRINKING CONTEST
>>35677765Mein Gott! Ich habe einen Traum!
>>35677794>>Toast to pilots not present.To absent friends, old gods...>>35677786>>35677765DON'T BELIEVE IN YOURSELF! BELIEVE IN US WHO BELIEVE IN YOU!
>>35677794>>Toast to pilots not present.And then drown our selves in liquor. Drinking contest may or may not be involved.>>35677765You have my gun, anon.
>>35677794>Toast to pilots not present.Can't not do this at the very least.
>>35677794>>Toast to pilots not present.>>Lighten the mood with DRINKING CONTEST.WHY NOT BOTH
>>35677794>Toast to pilots not present.>Lighten the mood with DRINKING CONTEST.Warum nicht beides?
>>35677794>>Lighten the mood with DRINKING CONTEST.Can't be the dour Belkan stereotype 24/7.
>>35677794>Lighten the mood with DRINKING CONTEST.>>35677765See Pic
'To absent friends, lost loves, old gods, and the season of mists; and may each and every one of us always give the devil his due.'
>>35677794>Toast to pilots not present.>>35677846>To absent friends, old gods...Always did like that quote.
>>35677794>Toast to pilots not present>DRINKING CONTEST"Let’s drink for those who no longer can, because they’d kill us if we just let good beer sit undrunk."
>>35677794>>Toast to pilots not present.Have to do this.
>>35677794>>Toast to pilots not present.Why do i get the feeling this will end with us sleeping with one of our teammates?
>>35677861Is that a challenge?
>>35677892I think it is.
>>35677889Because your /u/ goggles are screwed on entirely too tight. >>35677892I think it is, let's double down on dour Belkanism!
>>35677794>Toast to pilots not present.
>>35677794>Lighten the mood with DRINKING CONTEST.BIER SOLVES ALL PROBLEMS! Well that and nukes.
>>35677892>>35677903Well, then we must show him how wrong he is.>Toast to Pilots not Present>With extra solemnity and sadness.
>>35677909I'm not a /u/-boat though?
>>35677794"All right, how about one last round? For the guys who couldn't make it." You say.Immediately, your squadmates know what you're referring to and nod. Lara orders on last round. Whiskey, this time, instead of beer. She fills out five glasses, leaving the fifth to sit on the table as an offering. "To those that couldn't make it." You say, raising your glass."To those that couldn't make it." You wingmates murmur before downing their shots.As you look over your fellow pilots, you get the feeling that you could trust them to watch your back. Hopefully none of you would join the ranks of the countless pilots you're toasting to...>And that's it for tonight! Next thread is this Friday. I may or may not be able to run Cyberpunk Idols this Saturday due to other plans. If I can't run it that day, I might shift it to Tuesday instead. However, PJ Witches should still run on Sunday as planned!
>>35678010I don't think there's any way we're going to end up sleeping with one the people from our squad. Unless you were talking about someone from Artemis in general.
>>35678026Great quest as always Merc>almost 800 postsGood Garuda is AC really that popular on /tg/?
Do you anons think there's any way for Karla's nightmares to end?
>>35678026Thanks for the thread merc. I pray to Spike you will be able to run this Saturday.>>35678069There was never any question.>>35678074Too early to say.
>>35678074There's always the usual "Face your Fears" method, but everyone has their own way to do it.
>>35678074When we take out the Scinfaxi-clone we'll inevitably be contracted to take out
>>35678074Never. Maybe if she finds out that the others from Sand Island are alive.
>>35678069Yes. Yes it is. It's basically ancient mythology mixed with jet fighters. No way /tg/ can resist a setting like that.
>>35678123>Inb4 Razgriz makes an appearance again after Edge from last thread
>>35678046No, it just seemed like a scene that I had a feeling would have heppened, nothing lewd though
>>35678069Seems like it.I'll have to talk to /tg/ sometime about the AC/Robotech setting that's been percolating in my head for a couple weeks.
>>35678146>Inb4 spooning, spooning everywhere
>>35678138I do not know a thing about Ace Combat though
>>35678165>AC/Robotech>Not AC/MacrossPrefer the Invid anon? Not that I'm dissing you or anything.
>>35678165robotech what is that anon you mean macross right
>>35678026Merc, will we have raid first or maids first?
>>35678170It's also how the way each game presents the narrative.AC4's narrative is the POV of a man who recollects his days as a young boy hanging around Yellow 13 and how much he respected Mobius 1 as a pilot.AC5 is about a conspiracy theoryAC0 is in the form of a documentary. An interviewer doing a documentary about The Demon Lord by interviewing the pilots who flew with and against him.
>>35678026Thanks for the thread Merc, cya in the next one
>>35678192Prefer the setting as a whole more. Not really a fan of the Macross setting as a whole. Love the veritechs.Also, when combining you don't have to worry about editing the past, just drop an other major disruption on the world three months after Ulysses.>>35678196Sorry, anon.
>>35678335I see. Well, to each his own then. Have some Basara.
>>35678335Though, going forward, I imagine borrowing more pages from Macross, Strangereal has a long tradition of paralleling fighter development, and I can't see the Master Saga being nearly as light on the air support for a version of the SC world.>>35678367I could support that version.
>MFW I can only get here after the thread is finished
>>35678650>I could support that version.Do it. FOR THE LOVE OF MISA HAYASE DO IT.>Basara Nekki fires up TOTSUGEKI LOVE HEART on Mobius One