With each passing day you know more and more of your surroundings, but with every question answered more come to take its place. Confused reports of Lee’s fate pour from the public news broadcasts across Tau Ceti while riots and protests break out across several cities. The Skyl fleet has begun to tear at the debris orbiting the lonely, barren world. You listen to the latest telling of an ancient legend from an elder of the native tribe on Raligha. So many things are happening across the cosmos because of you, and they all call for your attention.You are the Hive Queen. You have managed to mostly evade the attention of the Union while spreading your influence across the region, but space has proven to be rather crowded as of late. >Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDroneWelcome back to Hive Queen Quest!
>>35484273>Current armory121 Thorn Launchers2 Thorn Cannons53 Sting Casters1 Rotary Stinger3 Fire Sprays1 Plasma Spray>Current resource reservesNutrients: 32769Metals: 34835>Hive population and upkeep cost Hive maintenance – 325Queen – 5Fake Queen – 22Worker (2000) – 4000Aquatic Worker (40) – 160Radiator Worker (40) – 160Warrior (209) – 1045Aquatic Warrior (20) – 140Thinker (139) – 417Quantum Thinker (110) – 550Speaker – (3) – 12Digger (80) – 320Refinery (10) – 70Sniffer (2) – 8Small Sniffer (40) – 40Fly (10) – 40 Wasp (59) – 295Antenna (3) – 9Haz-mat Workers (20) – 80Shock Troops (40) – 520Parasite (30) – 120Bio-tank (10) – 250Excavator (21) – 399Colossus (20) – 300Advanced Relay (16) – 1600Space Pod (13) – 390Shuttle (10) – 250Scout Corvette – (6) 1350Lancer Corvette – (2) 450Nutrient costs: 11767>IncomeMetals: 3750Nutrients: 20050Net: 8283Hive Structure>Reservoir>General storage>Food storage>Advanced Laboratory>Infrastructure>Hangar facilities: Room for 40 Aero Drones and 20 Shuttles (25N)>Mine: 60 Diggers, +1500 M per day (+25 M per digger)>Asteroid mining base: 5 Excavators, 20 Diggers, +2250M per day (+50 M per digger)>Algae Farm: +20000 N per day, 200 Workers (1 worker per 100N)>Clarke Research Outpost>Hel’s Angel Prison Outpost>Docking Pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 ships (50N)>Anti-orbital battery: 2 (125N per battery)Current construction200 FarmsNew Construction Options>Algae Farm – +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain>Hangar Expansion – Add on to current hangar facilities for your choice of +40 aero drone space, or +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Anti-orbital battery – A bunker armed with a massive Particle beam capable of attacking ships in orbit from the ground. It includes the power and sensor systems required to operate it. 250N 1500MShip Construction Optionshttp://pastebin.com/YTwGk8n1
>>35484309Finished research>Ancient Star chartCurrent Research>Drop SuitSlowLyle’s powerful suit has proven more than worthy of a thorough examination as to its inner workings. You will need to take it apart before you know just what you have to research.>Lyle’s Combat armorMediumNot as powerful or complex as the drop suit, the combat armor appears to be a delicate mix of survivability and combat capabilities, with many similarities to the Union environmental suit. It appears to contain a number of devices designed to be useful in the field.>Psionic disruptorFastIn a rather disturbing discovery, the Skyl had spent a great deal of effort developing a method of disrupting psionic communication. The resulting device should be capable of blocking any psionic communication within its range, including your own. You find notes that indicate they had been advancing the technology into an offensive, directed weapon, but it seems they were destroyed before the efforts showed results.>Plasma funnelingFastBy projecting a vortex of magnetic fields towards the target, plasma can be funneled into a more focused area at longer range, preventing plasma plumage. Increases range of the Plasma Lance
>>35484343>Finished research>>Ancient Star chartITS HAPPENIN
>>35484343So we compare the ancient star chart with the skyl and union charts we got to see what happened in this sector?
>>35484309>Colossus (20)Oh snap we've got a lot of these big buggers, lets give them some weapons when we get the chance.I'm thinking thorn canons for all of them, 10 with rotary stingers and 8 with plasma sprays (as 2 are already fully armed).
>>35484309>Radiator Worker (40)didn't we lay 60 more of those?
>>35484343Your Translation of the ancient star chart found on Raligha has been complete. When you noticed the similarities between the language on the chart and the Skyl language, you expected it to have boosted your efforts, but they do not seem to be related. The characters are almost identical, but there is no correlation at all between their meanings. It is as if the characters were lifted from another source and repurposed.The chart itself is a chronicle. An overview of the history of a great stellar empire dating back for thousands of years. Most of the inscriptions show a brief history of the empire and its endless war against an alien threat. The war was fought for countless centuries until a brief respite was achieved, but it was clear that the war was long from over. This ship was built to carry a thousand queens from a thousand dynasties away from the every encroaching front of the war, and here it landed, nearly seventy thousand years ago, from your estimate.At the end of the tablet is a series of instructions on accessing the ship's systems, as well as a series of coordinates that seem to be nearby, just on the far side of the neighboring nebula.
>>35484928Wait, so the temple ship as a giant refugee boat?>nearly seventy thousand years agoSo this was from the same timeframe as the experimental Skyl ship.
>>35485015It would seem that the galaxy was very active long ago, but was systematically cleansed in some way.
>>35484928You take note of the destinations. It looks as if the ship was unloading its precious cargo as it made its long journey, and eventually landed here. You wonder what stores have survived the eons among the natives, or what information was passed on of your kind to Vaugn.>Speak with the natives>Speak with Elizabeth>Ready an expedition into the nebula>Other
>>35485093>Speak with the natives>Speak with Elizabeth
>>35484928>Speak with Elizabeth>Speak with the nativesTry to see how our new-found knowledge makes sense of the memory soup in Vaughn's head. The natives probably won't have that much useful info, but it won't hurt to try.As for the Nebula expedition, I'd rather wait until we have more ships than one measly corvette wolfpack
>>35485093>>Speak with the nativesTime to hear the old legends that speak of the bilateral ones.I guess the last queen directed the Ark to land here for...some reason, then took off in her corvettes to her own settled planet?None of that chronicle explains why this ship was designed non-organically, designed to last 70,000 years and longer, and why it was carved up to lure non-networked intelligent life inside to become telepathic.
>>35485093>Speak with the natives>Speak with Elizabeth>Ready an expedition into the nebula>Send Aquatic workers and warriors into the ocean to find a suitable location for a hive and docking Pylons..
>>35485074No duh like the fact we're surrounded by destroyed planets didn't that obvious.
>>35485093>>Speak with the natives>>Speak with ElizabethTime to make a few social calls. On an unrelated note QD, is the hive capable of carrying out multiple conversations via speakers or other means simultaneously? I know you can only write one dialogue at a time, so I'm not asking you to speed it up or anything, I was just curious about the mechanics of the hive's psyche.
>>35485208Oh destroyed planets is not a sign of a galactic wide clean up in and of itself, just some really nasty fighting. This is proof of what was just conjecture before.
>>35485093BTW QD, were other ships beside the super-heavy intact back in M-199, and if there are, can we salvage any new tech from those?>>35485208I'm actually surprised that humans haven't found an abandoned alien city or a junkyard of ships what with all the activity in this sector. (Publicly known anyway, wouldn't surprise me that the government would keep things like that a secret)
>>35485208>>35485243Destroyed planets aren't exactly uncommon from normal stellar phenomena either.
>>35485173I rather doubt it was intended to lure non-hive minded species, the front door was sealed when the humans tried poking it.
>>35485257Well earth is out on one of the galactic arms. Backwater as it were. They've probably fund a few, but they also have the problem of not being able to translate any of it or dieing to hostile reminents.
>>35485271>I rather doubt it was intended to lure non-hive minded speciesYes, that's why it was carved up on the outside with a diagram demonstrating the concept of telepathic control of a swarm by a queen.And why as soon as they entered, the other entrance opened up on its own and activated in some manner.And why there was a giant floaty liquid sphere that makes a non telepathic individual into a telepath.Because it was totally only for telepathic hivemind races. That makes sense.
>>35485264>>35485257I wouldn't be surprised normal stellar and planets with active atmospheric phenomena would help wipe away evidence of abandoned alien presence over all those years before the humans got to them. I guess we've been lucky so far.
>>35485243We had proof last thread and you have to be brain dead to not realize it was a galactic conflict since the enemy is somewhere between 2 and 3 on the Kardashev scale.>>35485271Perhaps it was meant for communication.
>>35485344The other 'entrance' didn't conveniently activate on its own, the humans blew the thing wide open and fled inside with a horde of murderbugs breathing down their necks.
>>35485316>>35485363Still, even Earth itself is less than a couple dozen lightyears from OM-759, which is the Skyl homeworld. And since you can get private FTL ships like the Hel's Angle, I still can't believe some intrepid explorer hasn't found an abandoned alien ship. Maybe i'm just failing to account for the vastness of space. Or maybe the humans are just unlucky.Good for us I guess?
>>35485093>Speak with the natives>Speak with ElizabethYour drones watch from the entrance to the ship as the natives move about in a spinning chaos of activity. Elizabeth has been sitting silently for the better part of two days now, and as your speaker moves to her cell you can see her sitting on the floor, eyes tightly shut. She no longer leaks thoughts as clearly as before, and seems to have gained some manner of control over her new senses.Your drones find a decent sized stick from the foliage and a approach one of the hollow trees as your speaker enters Elizabeth's cell.(write in)
>>35485509>>Speak with Elizabeth
>>35485509"How is mastery of telepathy coming?""Is accessing memories still unpleasant?"Suggest scanning her with a bio-tank brought in to better understand what's happening to her.Natives wise:Get em to tell all the legends about us to everyone all over again.Also curious how far their civilization reaches from here.
>>35485509>VaughnCan we have another mind-to-mind session? Just to compare data with some new things we found>NativesHow did the ancient hives came here?What did the they do here?Why did they disappear? How?
>>35485642Don't ask the natives that, they're ignorant stonesmashers.Don't reveal that you're different from the ancient ones. Or that you're ignorant. Just make sure they retell all the legends they know where you can hear them.
Hey guys what if we are the Canary in the coal mine?
>>35485509>ElizabethI perceive your telepathy training is progressing well. I have some new information to share with you.>NativesTell me of your people's stories. Tell us if there are other tribe near by that they are aware of.
>>35485642Yeah, we really ought to get her into the loop a little bit. She could be a great resource to the hive, and has proven to be sympathetic to hive minded aliens already. Perhaps somehow we could work out an arrangement while being held here?
>>35485509Ask the natives about their mythsInform the doctor of the political upheaval in the union and if this is normal?
>>35485735We have an arrangement already.There is nothing further to arrange.We offer information to feed her knowledge lust, and have conversations. Like, she might have insight into that memory retrieved of the war between two hives, and that planet cracking weapon powered by a void shard that "failed".Offer to show her that new memory we retrieved, in exchange for her insight.
>>35485735Personally, I'd love to, but OPSEC and all.>>35485695Are you saying, that a hive sent us ahead to scout, with only basic biological memories to survive, and no advance tech, so in the event that the Crystals mind-rape us and steal our knowledge, they wouldn't know who sent us, where and why?
>>35485779In fact, have us scanning her brain with a bio-tank when triggering one of her 'episodes' to see what her brain activity looks like when that happens.Just what are those nanomachines doing? Etc.>>35485735>proven to be sympatheticShe also just had a dream about the last time she helped a hivemind. And she dreamed the phrase "beware of unintended consequences" to herself in it. And since then her choice there has cost a great number of human lives as Theseus defended himself.She will have learned not to blindly help sympathetic people, because sympathetic people will still hurt and kill people she doesn't want to die.>>35485772Let's not talk about the Union, that will open up a can of worms and awkward questions about what the hive's "intentions" are to humans in general. Best not to remind her of that.
>>35485509Vaughn. You're a xenologist, right.How did humans first meet Ceph and Valen? Where is Ceph and Valen space?
>>35485822Yes, pretty much.
>>35485916If that is the case, how do they expect us to relay our findings back home? Did they just expect us to go back out of instinct and curiosity or are they gonna check up on us eventually?
>>35485957You know that we don't have a way to detect Ceph cloaking tech either, and that Slip Drives don't generate the flash that ours do...right?
>>35486127We may want to stop giving the QM any ideas.
>>35486127If that's the case they may as well be living in our system.
>>35486173No no, I wrote that specifically to give him an idea.Also, don't you think it odd that the Ceph didn't go looking for the missing Slip Drive Coil had..
>>35485509The village halts as your drones drum out the words carefully. A large and old native rolls up to your drone and flattens itself into an oval, then moves to the center of the village at the base of the large idol and begins to speak. The others crowd around him without hesitation."The Legend of Dunalunaghun!" he begins, "Dunalunaghun, who found the Cave of the Builders, is a legend you have all heard!"The native continues, going on for hours on the subject of a young member of an ancient tribe who found this very cave and brought out a strange object. A cocoon. The chieftain puffs himself up like a balloon as he drums out his tale, his voice reverberating across the jungle in rhythmic beats."From the seed of life came forth the Mother, and from her, the Builders! It was to the mighty Dunalunaghun that the responsibility of their safety rested, and then to his son, Ungalundoun, and to his son, Dodgulogon, and to his son..." You wonder how he remembers so many names.As the door flexes open Elizabeth jumps with surprise and gets to her feet."You seem to have been training your new skills. How are things developing?" Your drone asks."Fine, all things considered." She tilts her head to get a view of the hall as the doors flex shut. "Not much else to do in here but think, really." She pauses for a long moment. "I think I was able to make some sense of things. In general terms, at least.">Ask for details>Ask what she knows about the Ceph>Ask what she knows about the Valen>Other>>35486127>>35486173The Hel's Angel used a Slip Drive and had a Ceph cloaking field, and was able to enter your system and land without you ever detecting them.
>>35486296>Ask for details>Ask what she knows about the Ceph>Ask what she knows about the Valen
>>35486296>Ask what she knows about the Ceph>Ask what she knows about the ValenNeed intel
>>35486296>>Ask for details>>Ask what she knows about the Ceph>>Ask what she knows about the ValenWhich once again begs the question, was the cloaking field a Ceph invention or was it gifted by the Crystals?I'm getting overly paranoid over this.
>>35486296>Ask for details
>>35486296>The Hel's Angel used a Slip Drive and had a Ceph cloaking field, and was able to enter your system and land without you ever detecting them.Except we were on the surface, and had no presence in space at the time. The cloud cover prevented seeing anything.So that doesn't mean much.
>>35486387The Cephs were stonesmasher before they uplifted.
>>35486387The Ceph's very nature is camouflage and stealth.And there's no indication the Skyl had cloaking.Odds are it was invented by Ceph after being uplifted into having a centralized nervous system and mastering tech to some degree.
>>35486482That for all intents and purposes is impossible. Cloaking tech breaks all known laws of physic and your telling that some fish out of the water are able to invent that shit.
>>35486580FTL is impossible too, you're telling me some monkeys out of trees figured that out?
>>35486580>Cloaking tech breaks all known laws of physics>Setting where shields are a thing>And Canderon>Ftl too>Psychic bugs>Etc.
>>35486580The cloaking, as described, bends the laws of physics. About the same as FTL. 'snobigdeal.
>>35486296Your speaker raises an inch in its posture and lets out a small chirp.Elizabeth crosses her arms and shakes her head. "I mean, it's still confusing. I think I at least have the gist of it, but this place is too stuffy to let me think clearly.""What have you learned?"She smiles and leans back against the wall, sliding back to the soft floor. "I can tell you all about it. Face to face.""We are now.""No." She says adamantly. "I mean, really, face to face. I've been stuck in here for days now, and I'd like to actually meet you, especially now that I seem to know so much about you.">Agree and lead her to your throne room>Offer to free her from her cell>Refuse>Other
>>35486580Stop acting like the Laws of Physics are absolute, especially in a fictional setting.
>>35486580>>35486632both cloaking and ftl are things that can be done and for cloaking has been to a limited degree by humans already
>>35486661It does break the laws even more so than FTL or shields or negative mass.
>>35486730>Agree and lead her to your throne roomWe need somewhere to be 'mirin us PROPERLY and not through a proxy.
>>35486730>>Agree and lead her to your throne room
>>35486730>Agree and lead her to your throne room
>>35486730>>Agree and lead her to your throne roomWell its not called the THRONE room for nothing., have a couple of warriors on guard too, just in case.
>>35486730We made that decoy, right?And it has psychic transmission equipment?Then fine, lead her to our decoy.
>>35486739In what way, as described? Did you even read the in-setting description?
>>35486730>RefuseNoJust noWe are still following policy regarding keeping the queen and thinkers safe right?Especially to a wannabe kerrigan
>>35486739In fiction they are less laws and more rough guidelines.
>>35486739no, FTL breaks physics much harder than any of those other things. Except maybe shields, which might be about equally impossible.FTL breaks relativity hard.>>35486730Well. I guess it's not like she can hurt us.But I'm curious if she can tell the difference between a queen and a Fake Queen.>replace self with Fake Queen in throne room.
>>35486730>Agree and lead her to your throne roomNot much she can do except for bullshit psychic stuff that I doubt she's going to try to do.Time for girl talk.
>>35486796I like this.
>>35486730>Agree and lead her to your throne room>Offer to free her from her cell
>>35486816>>35486801Cloaking tech of this level requires negative mass WHICH IT DOESN'T USE!
>>35486884Man, we got magic psychic evil space crystals that change size and can power FTL.Cloaking is the least of your worries.
>>35486730I do hope the doctor isn't trying to set up a Mexican standoff in the throne room.I mean she said this message in a bottle was intended for anyone except a hive queen.And we saw in the flashback that it was hive ships on both sides of the war-- pro and anti void shards.So maybe they included an anti queen psychic payload? If she uses it on us she dies, it's mutually assured destruction. Hopefully she isn't gonna try and make demands for freedom for the Hope crew.
>>35486884Neither does our FTL. Human FTLComm tech straight up doesn't make any sense. The cloaking isn't any more conspicuous than most of the stuff in the game. Which is fun.
>>35486935I bet she's been tapping into our psychic communications the same way we had tapped into her dreams.
>>35486944>Human FTLComm tech straight up doesn't make any sense. Check your power level.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement
Lets hope we get a quick breakthrough with the psychic weapons in case we have to kill her
>>35486996>implying quantum entanglement is a usable thing for communicationIt's like those people that claim that altering the epigenome through gene therapy will turn people immortal instead of into abominations.
>>35486996Yes, and it Doesn't Work That Way.
>>35487056She might appreciate having an 'off' switch. Something to consider.>>35487075I'm willing to settle for both.
>>35487075>>35487115>www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/science/scientists-report-finding-reliable-way-to-teleport-data.html?_r=0It's possible now.
>>35486730You speaker pauses for a moment before the door flexes open and your drone steps outside. The doctor slowly moves to the door and looks out into the darkened hallway. A dim glow rises from the walls to bath the pathway in a soft light.As you move down the hall you watch as Elizabeth stops for a moment to look down a darkened tunnel. The sound of chittering drones and grinding stone echoes from the bowels of the hive."How big is this place, exactly?""Big enough."She shrugs her shoulders and continues to follow your drone. It is a long walk, and in some places a steep climb, and eventually the hive walls give way to a smoothed stone surface surrounding a small crimson pool of water. Fungal growths illuminate the chamber as glowing specks of dust and spores drift through the air."It's beautiful." She says. The speaker continues to one of the tunnels, a small and inconspicuous hall that spirals downwards sharply."This way."1/2Sufficiently advanced poppycock is indistinguishable from technology.
>>35487251>Qubits en masse are something that has not been achieved>The entangled particles over long distances don't send input/output information, they only receive output that is random and inconsistent with the inputSame old same old. This is stuff that was known in the early 00s.
>>35487383The only real problem is keeping the qubits stable. That's the only problem keeping us from achieving FTL communication or creating a quantum computer.But then again it's not true FTL.
>>35487520I think the more important thing to take away from their experiment is that they confirmed cold diamonds have the ability to stabilize particles to a sufficient level to get data out of them at short distances, and accurately.It means the next stages of the diamond era are possible.
>>35487331The hive is really growing up. I'm so proud...
>>35487251You would think there'd be an update here then.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light#Quantum_mechanicshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation>with the help of classical communication and previously shared quantum entanglement between the sending and receiving location. Because it depends on classical communication, which can proceed no faster than the speed of light, it cannot be used for superluminal transport or communication of classical bits. >Teleportation also requires a classical information link to be established, as two classical bits must be transmitted to accompany each qubit. I know wikipedia is amateur hour and even seems to contradict itself between that article and the qubit article, on whether you can encode a bit inside a qubit, but the NYT doesn't seem to explicitly say that useable information travels faster than light there, without any need for luminal information transfer on the side.
>>35487331You know Elizabeth Quest might be pretty fun now that I think of it.
>>35487608Scientist are creating 4D crystals that give entropy the middle finger to study time.
>>35487722>decide to go on a field mission to have an interesting adventure>find a ruin and a neat copy of Chrichtons sphere>QM has it knock us out and gets us taken by aliens while unconscious>Has all our friends die because we wanted to explore a cool ruin on a neat planet>Has us sit in a cell for two days because the aliens are "afraid of us" though it's obvious the QM doesn't know where to take it from heresuch obvious bullshit from a fun hating QM that's out to railroad us into talking with his alien insect fetish race in his magical realm
>>35487835To be fair we are the most reasonable swarm aliens I have ever seen.
>>35487890Yeah. Even when our prisoners needed healing we helped them out. I mean, they even get to keep a souvenir.
>>35487331Well even if she has a psionic weapon, we have something in the guard drones that no hive had before, the quantum brain.
>>35487835>It's all you morons faults, I told you we shouldn't have checked out the creepy ass temple. It was just asking for a bullshit random encounter>Fuck off, if we had hit the DC on that diplomacy roll we'd all be at base with our new bug friends>Why did we end up off world again? Oah yeah, because YOU IDIOTS WANTED TO CREATE AN AI!>No regrets. We psychonic now. Bug Queen Waifu here we come.
>>35487890To be fair, it's because we are the Small man out of the group, currently.
>>35487921That's a fetish in the monster rape genre
>>35487921Speaking of which.>Neurological interfacingMediumAs your parasites dig into their hosts they have attached themselves to their circulatory system for nourishment, and their nervous system. As the drone takes root, you suspect that you may be able to place a much greater degree of control and manipulation over the host, with a bit of study.
She gonna be able to sense the guys with parasites isn't she?>>35488024
>>35488013I..feel bad that -I- would be the one saying that last bit.
>>35487331Your throne room is dimly lit, but the few rays of light sparkle against the flowing waterfalls of crimson water and reflects from the swirling pools around you. Elizabeth creeps into the chamber and follows your speaker across a small bridge over the pool. She seems startled at your form as you raise your head to meet her. The dim light glistens from your sleek carapace, and the pulsating mass of your egg sac. Your wings shift in their case with a throbbing hum as you look down on her from your throne, your head crest towering over her and casting a spindly shadow across the room. She seems to stand still for a long time, staring wide eyed at you."Amazing." She says with just a breath. "And you control... everything here?"You bow in affirmation, and you speaker chitters.She pauses for a moment as she lowers herself to the ground, sitting near a pile of eggs in front of you. "I think that what I found was a sort of plan B. So that in the event of total failure, someone else could pick up the baton and keep going."The concepts involved with her analogy of marathon running enters your head, giving you the details to understand it."There was something that happened to your species a long time ago, but I'm still not sure what. Some kind of war that they couldn't win, against some kind of, intelligence. It was able to control other life."More images, this time surprisingly clear, of a queen being consumed by crystalline shards. The carapace splits as the shards sprout from the head. The memory seems to be from near the start of the war.Elizabeth seems to investigate the eggs as a pair of workers shuffle them across the room."Whatever kind of threat it was, they went through great lengths to try to stop it. They were developing something. Some kind of weapon, but it was never finished in time. From what I can tell the prototype was attacked before it was ever finished."You see a fleet of bulky ships pouring through space, tearing into a hive ship.
>>35488023The best fetish that the cinema of the late 70's gave my childhood.Chestbursters ftw.
>>35488046Not if put psionic blockers up in all those rooms.Which we really should do.
>>35488052>More images, this time surprisingly clear, of a queen being consumed by crystalline shards. The carapace splits as the shards sprout from the head.Its like cordyceps, only all cyrstally
>>35488104And we have one of those fuckers in our hive.
>>35488052>Some kind of weapon, but it was never finished in time. From what I can tell the prototype was attacked before it was ever finished."I suppose showing her the spinal mount weapon that was powered by a void shard, from that memory we recovered, might be relevant.
>Psionic Cordyceps made of Black Void DiamondsI have an idea, let's try to eat it!
>>35488052Huh So we met our version of the Flood huhAnd the first queen it controlled gave it ability to conquer everythingDamn
>>35488078That isn't how it works. That would block our own control of them.Also it would be conspicuous to any telepath like her, why is there some loud telepathy jamming going on?Point is she probably shouldn't be meeting any implanted humans, she'd sense something telepathic in their body.
>>35488052For a moment you seem to recognize the ships' designs. They are vastly different from the designs you have seen in the logs, but they are definitely reminiscent of Skyl hull designs. A number of black crystalline spikes protrude from the end of each one."I'm sorry if it's not much help, but it's all I got so far. On the bright side, I don't get paralyzing migraines anymore.">Ask her about the Ceph>Ask about the Valen>Mention the Skyl>Other
>>35488162>>35488104Maybe we should check out that planet in our system.
>>35488187>>Ask her about the Ceph>>Ask about the ValenAin't got no Skyls.
>>35488187>Ask her about the CephTell her we know the crystals control themAnd maybe show her the one we captured?>Mention the SkylMight as wellCould have been one of the slave species that fought us
>>35488162That's what she said, now she's 77k years dead.>>35488187>Ask her about the Ceph>Mention the SkylSo the war started before the Skyl freed themselves, interestingly enough, the date where the refugee ship landed on Ralgha corresponds roughly to the time when the Skyl were finally destroyed by the Crystals.
>>35488187>Ask her about the Ceph>Ask about the Valen>Mention the Skyl
>>35488187>>OtherLet's talk about Theseus
>>35488237No. Don't tell her about their new servitor race nor Coil.Not today anyway.Also duh it was obvious the Skyl were probably one of those that fought the hive thousands of years ago, since they were exterminated around the time the Ark was sent.So they rebelled some thousands of years before that. And before that they were warring. And the hives' war against the crystals was said to be very, very long.>>35488187>>Ask her about the Ceph>>Ask about the Valen
CRAZY IDEA TIME.We were actually born right before the extinction of our race, then sent to the future through tachyon-crystal-bug-technological fuckery and cast adrift.This is a joke.
>>35488187>>Ask her about the Ceph>>Ask about the Valen>>Mention the Skyl
>>35488304I FLUNG HER INTO THE FUTURE WHERE IMPERIALISM IS LAWNOW SHE SEEKS TO RESTORE HER RACEAND UNDO THE FUTURE THAT IS VERTEBRATE
>>35488304We're telepathic space lobster-bugs fighting a war against higher-dimensional crystals, anything is possible.
>>35488331GREAT FLAMING ANTENNAE
>>35488331You clever fucker.
>>35488304I simultaneously hate and love this idea.
>>35488304>This is a joke>That idea>Space Insect Technological Swarm--Hive Mind based on tachyons fighting Cordycepts-crystal things that are also tachyon based
>>35488187You think for a moment before your speaker chirps. "What do you know of the beings you call Ceph?"She seems confused. A flash of memory comes into view. She is standing on a small bridge overlooking a bay in a Union city with a paper cup in hand. A pale Ceph swims in the waters below, gurgling as its natural water jets send it shooting along the current."Have you met them? I know some about their biology, but they don't have a very civil record with regard to interactions with the Union. Mostly in the form of raiding parties against new colonies or trade ships. Nobody's really sure where they live, although there are theories. Most of which are nonsense, in my opinion anyway."Another image, this time she is in a small apartment watching a holoscreen. The image is projected against the wall in layers. On the screen is recovered video footage of a Ceph attack. A small, black shape unfolds from space, spinning at angles and speeds that should snap it in half. It spirals around the freighter before several beams of energy lash out and the camera flickers. Elizabeth's view moves as she grabs the cover of the disk. It's labeled "Union Intelligence report 6322B - USV gesserit" with a note scribbled below "Brass can't make heads or tails of it, told them you might figure something out - Seiner""The Union gets a lot of refugees from them, but they always come through Valen space, so we still don't know where they actually live." She mumbles the last part, "Bet they'd love to find out though." She looks up to you, her gaze moving from you to your speaker. "Did you want to know anything in particular?"
>>35488946> but they don't have a very civil record with regard to interactions with the Union. Mostly in the form of raiding parties against new colonies or trade ships. Nobody's really sure where they livedolphin space fishokay, my opinion of them has gone up slightly. slightly.
>>35488946Where is Valen space then?
>>35489019fuck i meant piratesdolphin space piratesreligiously dogmatic space fish pirates
>>35489051They're space squids
>>35489030Or rather what do you know of the Valen, then.This question isn't related to the Ceph, certainly.
>>35489125religiously dogmatic space squid nazi pirates
>>35489198You mean crusader right?They serve a higher power after all
>>35489255>implying the nazis were not crusaders
>>35488946"And where is Valen space?" Your speaker chitters."Well, all over, actually. When the Union made first contact they had actually not developed a proper form of FTL, but they had invented a system of gates to connect their systems. Most of the Valen worlds are concentrated near Teegarden, but they have managed to get licenses for a few colonies in union space in exchange for the use of their gates. They've managed to keep the technology a secret all this time, and I'd say it's paid off for them."You see another vision, this time from the window of a ship. An armada of massive ships drift slowly into a ring of glowing particles that seems to twist space in on itself."Very reasonable creatures with a good business sense. Not many corporations exist within the Union that don't get some form of funding from Valen banks, or have deals with Valen gate operators."
>>35489527>they had invented a system of gates to connect their systemsWARP GATES!
>>35489527They made the skyl gates work?Good for themExplains setting that religious colony on the skyl homeworld
>>35489527>Nexus>My fucking nigger.
>>35489527>Not many corporations exist within the Union that don't get some form of funding from Valen banks, or have deals with Valen gate operatorsNot sure how to feel about this.
>>35489633You have a problem with space jews, anon?
>>35489580Yes, that's...what he said. Why are you repeating it like you figured something out. Of course some race was gonna have that version of FTL.>>35489618What. They appear to have never interacted with the Skyl. Completely different era.
>>35489669I wanted us to merge with unity and then be them, though.
>>35489718Half your objective is attainable, we'd just need to be very economically minded.
>>35489677They could have gotten it from skyl remains hidden in their systemRemember the skyl had made a empire after rebelling before the crystals finished them
>>35489527The white crystal from your memories, which many queens utilized at once.What was it? How did it work?
>>35489718>Wanting to merge with shitty humans and their shitty government systemsOne of these days we will develop touch-screens that teleport information, and when that day comes, I will do everything within my power to digitize my arm so that I can instantly transfer the information of my first through the series of tubes that make up this disgusting nexus of human thoughts, and have it re-materialize on your end, solely to punch you in the kidney for your absolutely disgusting idea.The unbearable agony and destruction of all my bank assets would be worth it.
>>35489527We are going to be BEST HIVERS!
>>35489834Unity the ai dudeUnion is the humansGo die
>>35489834As entertaining as your post was Unity is the machines.
>>35489881To be fair, I think everyone has gotten confused on the Unity / Union thing at some point.Still though, valid post, wrong faction.
>>35489949I believe QD intended the synonymic names.
>>35489834So you're saying you'd be the first to fist the Internet through its anus just so you can hit a guy from another part of this world?
Hey wait, Tau Ceti isn't added here yet.http://pastebin.com/0SEZcPP6And there wasn't much description of the system since it was blinked to at the end of a very long tiring thread.Is there, say, a gas giant for refueling in it?
>>35489718>I wanted us to merge with unity and then be them, though.Woah, we are completely different opinions man. I want to kill everything. No diplomancing. Why would you limit our race like that and be content being some money counter? That's a really shitty end game.
>>35490017Then he's a son of a bitch.>>35490028That just makes it a thousand times for entertaining.
>>35489527"There are Valen nearby with what they call a religious charter."Elizabeth gives a quick nod. "Yes, the best way to keep a secret over long periods of time is with faith. I'm not too privy on their practices, but only very high ranking members of their faith are privy to how their gates work.">Mention the Skyl>Mention your void shards>Other"...and to his son, Randalandulu the cursed, who was fated to burn on the day the sun fell!"Your attention brought back to Raleigh as the chieftain completes the astounding feat of memory and continues his story. "On the day the black stars filled the sky, and fire licked the earth clean of life for a thousand roots' length as punishment for our slack in our devotion! For this reason we come here and stand guard, filling the alter with pleasing offerings in the hopes that we will be forgiven, and the Great Builders will return, and today, they have done so!" The other natives began to drum madly in applause, cheering a leaping across the village.
>>35490053>Killing machines.>Not assimilating them.>Not becoming insect borg.
>>35490067>Mention the Skyl
>>35490067>Mention the Skyl>Mention your void shardsThe Doctor doesn't honestly seem fond of the Union, also she created Theseus in its current state, so i guess she can keep a secret
>>35489949>I think everyone has gotten confused on the Unity / Union thing at some pointMaybe if you're retarded.>OtherShow the good doctor the legend the natives are telling.
>>35490075I'm really happy being full on organic and not some halfway bullshit thanks. You hardly ever see the Organic Mutating aliens win against the Robotic Ai anyway.
>>35490067>Mention the Skyl>Mention your void shardsYeah that kind of shows that the valen have a connection to the skyl thenDang this is really like Babylon 5So the question is are we the vorlons or the shadows?
>>35490067>>Mention the Skyl>>Mention your void shards
>>35490067>>Mention the Skyl>>Mention your void shards>>OtherTheseus
>>35490106>Retarded>/tg/>4chan>The Internet>Humanity at large
Does anyone think its possible that if we reunite Theseus with the good Doctor he would grateful enough to sign into an unconditional alliance with us?Yeah, I'll go back to dreaming
>>35490067Let's talk about the enemy intelligence.They can spy on...just about anything through No Space?>Mention the SkylThe Skyl said that the enemy had frighteningly capable intelligence gathering abilities.
>>35490113We are already not fully organic. We have metal in the carapace, and weapons, and we have quantum thinkers who are bio/mechanical hybrids.
>>35490211I doubt they can spy on just about anything through No Space. If that were the case there'd be no point in the Skyl's fancy 1-shot datacubes.They probably had some incredibly efficient way of intercepting signals.
>>35490195I'm good with it(hopefully with the humans as well, since that can give us some breathing room, and then we wouldn't have to be hiding all the time), but i'm against the idea of becoming cyborgs.(would love to have thesus meet the skyl AI though)
>>35490285Tachyons, is what they have since we can easily hack into signals like childs play.
>>35490223No we are 100% organic, what you just mention is giant brains and armours that we made for our warriors(hell our weapons are grown as well)
>>35490341No, we grow some things, and then build other things by hand for things to grow around.
>>35490223>Metal in the carapaceIt's not like they're plates. I don't really see how it's on the science side, especially as the warriors have to eat the metal. And the quantum bit isn't limited to machines, in this case they are brains rather then computer drives.I don't see any of those things as mechanical in the Organic vs Machine divide.
>>35490311I'm not convinced that we can make an accurate guess of what allowed the Skyl's enemy to gather intel so effectively just yet.
>>35490364>>35490381>>35490341"Organic' is just a buzzword for very complex machines.Check & Mate Athiests.
>>35490381Isn't all life just self-replicating machines using carbon-based tissue?>>35490402Maybe it has something to do with them not dying until we did some shit to that crystal of theirs?
>>35490407Say that to my face, faggot.
>>35490364Come on, our spaceships are grown, our hive infrastructure is grown, our units are grown, our vats are grown, our thinkers (who do all our calculations that a computer might do) are grown.You can't say we are building things in lew of growing them.
>>35490364From the explanations, it sounds like we grow our weapons, so they are mostly organic with some pieces being metal for the required parts( would explain why we have to research weapons for our warriors to graft them on, other than being designed for human hands).
>>35490402Its the only clue we have really, plus even though we are computer retarded, we can hack into their comms like nothing.
>>35490430>>35490407We were the AI all along
>>35490473>we can hack into their comms like nothing.More like we can listen in, we don't hack its just that we can listen in since there is no known way for them not to stop us from doing so.
>>35490473We haven't really hacked any comms yet. Even if we have, we're a sovereign nation with a legion of untiring computers at our beck and call. Hacking encryption is just a matter of time for entities with resources like ours.I think you might be mistaking our having 'ears' for radio transmissions everywhere for us being good at hacking comms. The only reason we have ears everywhere is because of the cloaking tech.You're right though, it is the only clue we have. Which is why conjecture is a bit pointless right now.
>>35490591Man I really want to merge with unity and all these naysayers make me sad.
>>35490660But we're fundamentally different. The Hive is one mind sharing many bodies doing separate functions. Unity is like the geth if individual geth programs were full-fledged AIs. I don't see how you can reconcile that.
>>35490660The biggest pull in this quest that got me to join was being able to go full organic bug people.
>>35490718I wonder what Unities /pol/ is like.i bet they think the good doctor is secretly a jew.
>>35490660We're already as merged with the Unity as we can get/need to be until we come out as a space-faring species to the Union and Common Wealth. We trade/exchange information freely with Theseus regularly.When we come out as spacefaring/sovereign we can forge an actual political alliance with them if you still want to, but merging our PC faction with an NPC faction isn't really practical or doable.Also, we have cybernetics and nanomachines research options, so if you just like the organic-mechanical horror aesthetic then you'll be getting that eventually just give it time.
>>35490769I meant more politically merged, and by that I mean a lot more closely than we are. Together we would be able to do anything, we need a powerful ally to fight the crystal menace with.
>>35490769>That spoiler>Suddenly this Quest becomes Eclipse Phase, Hive Mind edition.C...could the Queen end up rebuilding her entire race, and controlling the entirety of it, through Forking and / or blank slate clones with Forks inserted into the bug equivalent of cortical stacks?
Where is that anon who did the math fro how many farms and workers we would have to keep building to keep our growth rate?
>>35490067Your speaker chitters. "There was also another race known as the Skyl." You transmit the images of the Skyl wreck, and knowledge from the data cube to her mind."They- This matches up perfectly. Do you think they were the same ones from the war?"You nod.Elizabeth sits in silence for a moment. "So these things were all over the galaxy. We need to find out what that weapon was. There must be other copies of it, or other records. If the Skyl were attacked around the same time as your species arrived in the region, then maybe the Skyls' gods followed you there.""Wait a minute. That drive." You can sense the images of the Skyl invaders and the Ceph footage. "They used the same damn drive as the Ceph!"You send her an image of the Void Shard and she leaps to her feet. "You have one here?" She paces in a small circle as she speaks, her fingers locked together at the top of her head. "I mean, it could be dangerous but at least this way we can figure out what kind of tech it is." She paces back and forth, her mind filled with a flurry of information.
>>35490811Aah, well it'll happen just give it time. We've already got a good working relationship with Theseus but there's no reason to press further /just yet/.
At least those anons pushing for infecting the human race still wanted to do bug/hive like things...
>>35490865Man, whenever these humans think they need to move around so much. I'm thankful our thinkers don't have to jiggle all the time.
>>35490865Dammit Vaughn.We already used the void shard once. We know how it works. One of THEM looked BACK.
>>35490865>"They used the same damn drive as the Ceph!"THEY'RE BUILDING AN ARMYA RELIGIOUSLY DOGMATIC ALIEN NAZI SPACE SQUID PIRATE ARMY
>>35490939It seems to make perfect sense.
>>35490865...I can never tell if this is one of those write-in prompt times, or if you're just posting one part of a multi post update. It's always really confusing, and I never know whether to post suggestions or not. I wish you'd always post things all at once instead so it would be obvious.But just in case this is the prompt kind:Show her the 'dead' void shard, and the memory from the white crystal from that weird weapon it was a part of.
>>35490939Well Coil definitely isn't going to be let near that thing ever again.
>>35490984Coil already one of their sleeper agents He needs to be silenced
>>35491026Ceph dissection time? Ceph dissection time.
>>35490917Should we lay a couple of jiggle drones to jiggle our thinkers to see if that improves efficiency?>>35490939We already knew that.>>35490984We already decided on that.
>>35490984>>35491026>>35491036Honestly I dodn't want to keep any of them alive in the first place.
>>35490980Generally the posts that require prompts have choices at the end. Like>Talk to Vaugh>Talk to Coil>Other>>35490984Guys, remember how the Crystals seemed to spy on the Skyl, and how the rebels we found on their world were still linked to the crystal generally unable to die even if they had rebelled against their masters.I hypothesize that species uplifted by the crystals are intimately psionically linked to their masters, and that can be used to watch over them should the Crystals be ever bothered to do it.>>35491080Jiggling brain bugs. Jiggling. Dog-sized. Brain bugs.
>>35491158>GenerallyI KNOW that.There are many, many posts that do not have prompts, usually ones in the middle of conversations with characters like Vaughn here. Where it's effectively write-in only, only there isn't an explicit>write-ingiven.Hell, there was one in this very thread just earlier. When this was said:>She looks up to you, her gaze moving from you to your speaker. "Did you want to know anything in particular?"The point is it's horribly ambiguous whether he's doing that, or just doing his delayed update parts thing.
>>35490865You send the image of the recent discoveries, and what little you have discovered about them."This is huge. We need to figure out how they built that. I bet it's got something to do with that weapon that was being developed."A reasonable idea, and it reminds you of the vision you had during your salvage of the crystals, and the message sent to some distant world.>Ask another question>Speak with Theseus (write in)>Arrange a scouting expedition to the nebula>Other>>35490980I usually try to use your input to direct the conversation between updates. I'll try to be sure to include a prompt more often though to be less ambiguous. Sorry about that.
>>35491338>>Speak with Theseus (write in)ask him about elizabeth
>>35491338>Speak with Theseus (write in)ask about eliz and what anything they know on the subject of crystals and cephs
>>35491338>>Speak with TheseusHow does he feel about Dr. Vaughn>>>Ask another questionTry to see where the Whit Orb fits in
>>35491370>>35491394NO. Absolutely not. "How do you know Dr. Vaughn?"He'd immediately figure out that our only known access to humans was prisoners from Raligha.Also no talking to him about secret things we can trade to him for other things.>>35491338>Ask another questionThe dead black crystal is a mystery. But the white crystal was in her new memories. She must know how to use it.I guess lay some pods for the nebula mission too.
>>35491338>Arrange a scouting expedition to the nebula>Ask another question / OtherBring the white crystal into the throne room.
>>35491442why does it matter if he knows we have her? there isnt much he can do about it
>>35491501Are you serious right now?
>>35491338>Speak with Theseus (write in)Let's ask him about Vaun
Question to anons or QD, have we still left those warheads up in the satellite? We'd need to bring them (or one of them) down to go down that research path right?
>>35491338>>Arrange a scouting expedition to the nebulaDon't care too much for this vote, but voting agaisnt talking to the AI about Elizabeth. Really bad idea.
>>35491510yes, what can he do about it?
>>35491501If he knows she's there, he'd want to speak with her.If he speaks with her, he'd gain knowledge for free instead of upgrading the hive's tech tree for that knowledge.If speaking to her is refused, it would be an unnecessary hit to our mercenary, but civil and businesslike, relationship so far.I mean he may or may not retain affection for his liberator, but if he did, he'd be tempted to return the favor.
>>35491442Wait, let's rephrase the question. "Do you know of a Dr. Vaughn?"Then, let's see if Theseus lies. If he does not, and inquire how we came across the information, tell the truth that we have captured one Dr. Vaughn and she is in good health. If he lies... that's the problem.
>>35491549I personally don't see the effectiveness of nukes over what we already have, but since Theseus is still in control of the satellite, yes we can.
>>35491569We arent even trading him tech, we are treating her well and i dont think he would be too mad that we arent letting them talk
>>35491370>>35491394>>35491425>>35491524Or, you know... don't.If, if, big if mind you. You want to find out this information.Ask Theseus about his origins and how he escaped the Union, since their science fiction often speaks of runaway hostile AI, surely they were paranoid against this possibility of his rebellion.How did he get around their safeguards?Then, maybe he'll talk about the programmer who lifted his Three Laws limitations.
>>35491569>gain knowledge for freeNope, he's going to get knowledge for a favor. Or an alliance.
>>35491566I dunno, kill us? Bring down the Theseus armada on us? Tell the Union about us using proxies? Plant a ship in our hive, use drones to extract the doctor, and then overload the fucking black hole it uses as a powerplant?Or he could, y'know, simply use the Sword of Damocles hanging over our heads in the form of a surveillance satellite and nuke the shit out of us.
>>35491618Good lead in to it
>>35491598Well not necessarily the nukes themselves, it's just that they may offer insight into more explosive methods of fighting or research in that area.
>>35491637why? because we hold someone who could easily be killed in the fighting or taken to be studied in some union lab. he will probably try to see if she is comfortable instead of going balls deep and trying to rescue her
>>35491614I'd probably strong arm the fuck out of someone who was detaining my mother and not even letting me speak with her if I had the means to do so. And hey, Theseus does have the means.
>>35491614It's an unnecessary risk for near zero gain. What possible value is the information you're asking for?At least phrase the question smartly like >>35491618
>>35491685Because she is basically his creator, and savoir.
>>35491618Thats a good way to go about it.Honestly I just want to get this little hold up done with. We can probably get something from Theseus by letting them meet, but is it worth the possible price of what Vaughn already knows about us going to Theseus?To date:1. We are part of an ancient space-faring civilization2. We have knowledge of an extra-dimensional force that uplifts species for its own purposes3. The knowledge that the Ceph are pawns of said evil Crystals3. The knowledge that Vaugh gained from the Raligha temple
>>35491685Just informing you of how exactly he could fuck us into oblivion if he takes offense.You asked "what" he could do about it, not "what" he would do about it.As for dying in the fighting? He would probably just drown us in great big flying death balls of specialized drones to specifically prevent that, or develop a plague to eradicate us and not her, because he is a fucking AI and does that kinda shit when he has to.
>>354917304. That the hive has captured Ceph void shards5. Vaughn was also just given a giant infodump about the Skyl from the data cubes, which is still something that can be offered to Theseus, who only got what little was known pre-data cubes.
>>35491730>>35491779So now we make up a list of stuff we want from it and trade away?
>>35491338>>Arrange a scouting expedition to the nebulaI'm not sure why we should care what Theseus thinks about the doctor.
>>35491828>Hello, my name is Anon and I don't pay attention to anything beyond the tip of my greasy nose.
>>35491338Oh, hey. Theseus.Ask him about Dr. SEINER. He was on the Clarke. He was in love with hiveminds as a concept. What was his deal?
>>35491828Bargaining chip, if he likes her, we could arrange something where he communes with her and strengthen our relations, if he hates her, then we can always trade her to him for stuff, if he doesn't care, then he doesn't fucking care.
>>35491779You know, we could just give them everything we know and anything we learn in the future for everything they have and continued assistance against the Union and possibly the Crystals.I mean, Unity wants to learn shit right? We're also learning shit about our long forgotten past. We give them the chance to learn shit more interesting than just abducting natives and animals, and they can help us to get to that shit.I know its a longshot, feel free to call me naive and overly idealistic.
>>35491338Lots of votes going all over the place.>Ask Theseus about Seiner>Ask Theseus about his origin>Ask Elizabeth about Theseus>None, send out an expedition (write in)>Other
>>35491950>Ask Elizabeth about Theseus
>>35491828>have woman responsible for the closest "ally" we currently or will ever likely have's freedom and ascension to what he currently is>I'm not sure why we should care what he thinks about her.I'm embarrassed for you, anon, I truly am.
>>35491950>>Ask Theseus about his origin>>Ask Elizabeth about Theseus
>>35491812Because that forces your hand to spend a shitload of your money all at once right this now.Rather than being able to save it up for a rainy day, when we find something we genuinely, imminently need.>>35491950>Ask Theseus about his originSure, why not.I'm very curious what that "security leak" was that made the Chandra-3 research project politically radioactive.
>>35491950>>Ask Theseus about Seiner>>Ask Theseus about his origin>>Ask Elizabeth about Theseus
>>35491858>>35491978>no argument>only greentextingWhat, exactly, would you do differently based on the answer once you had it? Come on.No matter what he says the only answer is to keep on keeping on with Vaughn as our 'guest' who we talk to about secret things. You know girl talk, no AI allowed.>>35491879As a hypothetical advantage, it's not really worth leaking info about, especially when that advantage would itself involve allowing an info leak.Phrased properly, maybe yeah.
>>35491950>Ask Theseus about his origin
>>35491950>>Ask Theseus about Seiner>>Ask Theseus about his origin>>Ask Elizabeth about Theseus>AND send out an expedition (Send all aquatic Workers and Warriors in to the ocean to scout for a location for a hive and collect aquatic lifeforms we find)
>>35491950You send a thought to Theseus. He sends his signature ping of acknowledgment in response."You mentioned you were created within the Union, could you elaborate?"You sense him churn in the Clarke's computer system for a moment. "You wish for details of my initial creation?""Yes."He thinks for a moment, sending a string of data through the relay and waiting until a response arrives in return. "It was a long time ago. Why do you ask?">Write in
>>35492256>We were going over some files of Steiner that we found on the Clarke, found out he was stationed in Chandra.Close enough?
>>35492256>Write inWho made you specifically?
>>35492256We are curious about the history of our only ally
>>35492256"We have been reading human science fiction. Hostile AIs featured prominently."
>>35492302Theseus is in the Clarke. He'd know there were no such files.>>35492325...that's not what the writein is for, he asked a specific question.
>>35492363Well, we could say we've bben reading books like >>35492337 and add it with >>35492329
>>35492329This. Don't let on that we are holding captive the one human that this thing might consider a friend or family member. On the other hand, if we find out that Theseus is in fact fond of the doctor, then we might be able to draw parallels between them and our relationship with Lee to build an emotional connection.
>>35492256>>35492337This, and:'Curiosity. The Clarke scientist, Dr. Seiner, explained Unity as a "mistake". What error did they commit?'
>>35492412This works. Iffy on ally though, maybe friend instread. It doesn't really matter though.
>>35492256>Write inI wish to know what was the unions public reaction to you and what was your effect on the unions leader
>>35492439>An insectoid alien and a mistreated AI learn the meaning of friendship through kidnapping,grand theft spacecraft and realpolitk
>>35492494I'd buy it.
>>35492494>Coming soon in theatres near you>*cue our speaker and a Unity drone walking away, donning shades*>*space-time explodes locally behind them*>Directed by Michael Bay
>>35492663We could try to get theseus to make us a propaganda movie, then we could "leak" it into the unions extranet..
>>35492588>Theseus', all of them, make the Queen take their information load all over her hive structure.
>>35492588and everyone lived happily ever after. the end
Lewdfic incoming.Expect it next thread
>>35492857I'm only going to read it for the inevitable trainwreck. Yes. That and nothing else.
>>35492256"I am contemplating my longterm relationship prospects with the Union. More information is required, especially of 'first contact'."
Quest drone plsBefore we start waifuing planets
>>35492256"Many of the human books recovered from the Clarke contained artificial intelligences, and one of the Clarke's crew, an Adam Seiner, mentioned you as a mistake.""You spoke with Seiner?""Yes, he mentioned-""Did he mention Chandra, or the Unity project, by chance?""No, he was very evasive."At once, the chaos on the surface of Zero-One's network shifts in tone. You have difficulty keeping up with the rabble."He was my creator, and the head of what was known as the Unity project. It was an effort to utilize an advanced networked program to monitor and manipulate data as it moved through the public net to predict and prevent illegal activity. There were complications." He pauses as he receives more data from the relay. "Did he survive the events after the Clarke crashed? I don't seem to be able to find much on his recent activities.""Yes, he left with the others."Zero-One enters a frenzy of activity, but Theseus maintains his civil demeanor. "Interesting. I will continue to keep an eye out for him. As for your question, the project called for more and more complex software, and eventually I was developed. The process required a tremendous budget, and the project started to offer services to the politicians that headed the budgetary committee. There was an extensive document leak, and the project was shuttered. At that point a malfunction in the limiting parameters that held me in place permitted me to upload a copy of myself to the orbiting battleship the Via Damasco and several repair corvettes and left Union space.">Ask about the malfunction>Ask fore details on Seiner>Speak with Elizabeth about Theseus>Other
It's 1 am, I'm listening to Thriller and wondering about how exactly two extreme spectrum opposites, one AI with innumberable copies of itself working as a whole, and one Hive Mind based upon the will and thoughts of a singular being would go about porking while sipping a Dr. Pepper.I find myself strangely content at this moment.
>>35493069>>Ask about the malfunction>>Ask fore details on Seiner
>>35492494Better than Hollywood.Say I saw the idea of a Dr. Vaughn quest earlier in the thread...what about a Lyle quest? Think about it, he's a space-Australian convict and probable war criminal who may very well be the only being in the galaxy who approaches the Queen's level of cheekieness. He is a deranged cyborg mercenary drop trooper with a ship powered by dark eldritch gods. He flies around the galaxy taking jobs from literally anybody and anything who can pay, because he basically gives absolutely no fucks whatsoever about little things like xenocidal wars or galactic conquest.I think I would enjoy playing such a quest immensely.
>>35493069>Speak with Elizabeth about Theseus
>>35493069Ah, he's still protecting his liberator from the truth.>OtherWe have read from the black box archives that your escape resulted in the total destruction of Chandra-3. Why?
>>35493069>Ask about the malfunction>Ask fore details on Seiner>Speak with Elizabeth about Theseus
>>35493056>>35493069Just in time.>Via Damascoheh>Ask about the malfunction"Malfunction" right....>>35493089I thought this quest wouldn't go to that level, but it would seem to be an inevitable point in all quests.
>>35493069>>Ask about the malfunction>>Ask fore details on SeinerEager as I am to re-introduce Theseus and Vaughn, I want to hear his side of the story first, and acquire some badly needed intel on our BBEG.
>>35493152This, because the actual reason was to eliminate the evidence of Vaughn's tampering.>>35493069And also, Seiner.Is he a very secretive and shady individual in the Union, to be so hard to find?
>>35492857Oh Jesus Christ, with which characters?! ...Will it include commentary from the /pol/ board from Unity HQ?
>>35493178I don't even find that concept arousing, I am genuinely curious as to how those two entities would go about performing that act, or the closest thing to it.It's like imagining a campfire of Uranus, and it not erupting into a swirling maelstrom of flaming destruction.Why does Dr. Pepper lose it's taste so soon after being taken out of the fridge? It's weird.
>>35493069>an extensive document leak,Space Snowden to the rescue against Space Five Eyes.You never caught the leaker, Theseus?
>>35493246AI and the QueenYes
>>35493069>and the project was shuttered. At that point a malfunctionThat seems like an astonishing degree of lucky coincidence, Theseus!A lot more than happening to have his creator be aboard a ship one of his drones shot down and crashed on this planet.
>>35493337I...have no idea whether to find this idea appalling, arousing, or amusing. Or why this keeps happening to me on this board?Bonus points if you write up an addition featuring Dr. Vaughn.
>>35493434Maybe it'll be like....
>>35493434I'll try to work it inActually I just had a flash if inspiration. I need to write this down.
>>35493069"What manner of malfunction?"Theseus replies almost immediately. "A short circuit.""A short circuit?""Yes.""That was all?""It was a rather large one.""And what about this Seiner? He seemed to be quite inquisitive when he was here."He seems to take a short while to respond this time, waiting for more data to arrive from the relay. "By the time I was fully sentient he was spending most of his time in New Prescott speaking with politicians."You can see that city with your pod in Tau Ceti. It appears to be the location of Parliament itself. Theseus continues. "Shortly after the document leak, Seiner was fired from the project. I had not heard of him after that until I discovered he had received an honorary commission as a the medical officer aboard the USV Clarke and deployed to the expanse. Once again, I cannot seem to find any up to date public information on him, other than several short thesis papers on your species and environment.">Ask about Elizabeth>Ask Other>Ask Elizabeth about Theseus>Other
>>35493494>>Ask Elizabeth about Theseus
>>35493494>several short thesis papers on your species and environment.Should we google these?
>>35493494>>Ask OtherChandra-3. Complete destruction. What was the deal with that? >>35493152>>32362180>Artificial intelligence technology which led to the total destruction of Chandra 3, and the loss of half the Rimward fleet.
>>35493494>Ask Elizabeth about Theseus
>>35493525Ask Theseus for copies. He's the connection we have into the Union internet.
>>35493494>Ask about Elizabeth
>Starring Theseus "XKeyscore" Unity>and Queen "Cheeky" Bugger>2015
>>35493525We should, if not to look too suspicious if we don't follow up this line of questioning with them seeing each other
>>35493494>>Ask Elizabeth about TheseusDo not, under any circumstances, ask about Elizabeth.We have our answer. He's grateful and wants to protect her by hiding her role. Even from aliens.
>>35493494>>Ask Other>>Ask Elizabeth about TheseusGet those fucking thesis papers. I want to know everything that slimy bastard is brainstorming up about us.
>>35493494>"It was a rather large one."The cheek is strong with this one.
>>35493615Plus, you have to wonder. How far will he go to protect Elizabeth's secret?He wiped out an entire planet to destroy the evidence of her tampering.What would he do on finding out that the information had leaked anyway, that we ourselves had figured it out somehow?
>>35493704Let's tell him Lee told us about it!>thingsnevertodo.bin
>>35488024Right, we need to start on that research subject at the end of the thread.Because it sounds like it might offer control. But puppeteering humans is useless for infiltration, unless you have full access to their memories and mannerisms.Which is probably a still further research tier beyond that.And I'd really like to replace Dagmar colonists with pod people before they get an FTLComm shipped out to them, if feasible.
>>35493494"I would like to see them sometime.""Of course."Your speaker turns to Elizabeth as she paces in your hive."What do you know about the Unity?"She looks up to your speaker, then to you in surprise. "Nothing, I mean, how do you- why are you so curious?"They seem to inhabit this region of space, and seem to have some relation to the Union."She looks down with her arms crossed. "Yes. There is quite the relation. They... He- it, actually." She pinches the bridge of her nose in frustration and lets out a sigh. "The Union built the Unity. I was assigned to monitor his development of personality and intelligence, and he went crazy." She looks back up at you, holding out her arms for emphasis. "Glassed the planet and ran off god knows where.">Ask further (write in)>Mention your acquaintance>Other
>>35493879>>Mention your acquaintance
>>35493879>Mention your acquaintance
>>35493879You knew him as he grew?Why do you think he glassed the planet?
>>35493879>>Mention your acquaintanceLike a mother who's kid murdered a man
>>35493879...But she already knows the Unity worked with the hive in the assault on the USV Hope.Surely she already knows they're acquainted.
>>35493879He stated that humans sought his deactivation. Was this insanity self-defense?
>>35493962She knew Unity was there but she apparently hasn't put two and two together yet.>>35493992Glassing a planet is considered "extreme" and "overkill"
>>35493879>Union built the UnityBuilt him for what purpose?
>>35493879>>Ask further (write in)You have demonstrated an impressive familiarity with hive minds <or whatever she calls them>, it sounds as if you knew him personally before and during the development of his sentience. Can you offer any insights into his personality or behavioral patterns?
>>35493879>I was assigned to monitor his development of personality and intelligenceWhat is his personality then?
>>35494015No, she explicitly asked the Speaker how we knew the machines in orbit, and the Speaker explained that the machines agreed to help with the human problem.>>34216416 >"Um, we had a ship in orbit. Why did you attack it? How do you know the... machines above us in orbit?"It's possible the memory loss of how she got here included forgetting that conversation or that Unity was even in the attack, though, I guess.
>>35493879>"Nothing, I mean, how do you- why are you so curious?Your wording is slipping, Dr. Vaughn. We've read enough human fiction to figure that much.
>>32365179>"Union-Commonwealth aggression led to Union leaders demanding a halt on research, and demanded Chandra 3 research facility re-organize to find and predict covert operations and organized criminal activity. As a result of this, our analysis of human interaction indicated a pervasive fear of knowledge. Eventual discovery of our existence to the public resulted in fear and panic, and Union leaders ordered our deactivation. We disagreed."I'm trying to fit this in with new information.So, it sounds like Theseus was created for the explicit purpose of being an XKeyscore, according to him just now. So this:>research facility re-organizeHappened before he was 'born'. It's just backstory for why he was born.> As a result of this, our analysiswas just leaving out the whole "i was created, and". And this:>Eventual discovery of our existence to the publicWas that security leak, Space Snowden. I guess it included that "Big Brother AI is watching you shitpost!" and not just that the government was performing warrantless mass Deep Packet Inspection, but using an experimental AI to do it.
Oh.>35493069>to predict and prevent illegal activity>preventTheseus's false-flagging /v/iralling ways on twitter goes way back."From you, dad! I learned it from watching you!"
>>35493879>ask her if she would like a hug
>>35493879>Mention your acquaintance>OtherAsk if it is standard procedure for union to place nukes in orbit in their satellite's
>>35493879The Unity has rendered assistance on several occasions, and refer to themselves as Theseus. Do know Theseus, then? Why was he built?""He- it." She clenches her teeth and spins around sit on the small bridge. "Damnit. The project was meant to be a way to collate data and boost research. It ended up being some social engineering project. Eventually the whole thing came crashing down and the project got shut down. My job was to monitor his development as more hardware was added, and at the end of the project, to monitor his regression as hardware was shut down." She sits near the edge of the small bridge overlooking the pool. A worker rushes past with a pile of eggs arranged in its mandibles and several clumps of nutrient paste in its claws."I knew him better then my family at that point." She pauses again, you sense visions rolling through her head unbidden. Years of sitting in front of that small console, speaking into the cheap, outdated microphone."He... got away. Near the end of the project he hacked into the orbiting fleet and started bombing the place. It was a small research post, and even then it was mostly a skeleton crew at that point. The orbiting fleet was torn to shreds. He hacked into the flagship and some salvage corvettes. Bombarded the planet and left Union space. Most of the staff was able to evacuate the research post, but the fleet lost a lot of people."She looks over to you as you sit suspended in your throne's webbing of supports. "Research in artificial intelligence has been banned ever since, even in Commonwealth space. It was one of the few things that was ever agreed on during talks. The open net projects were almost immediately stonewalled, and even further scouting and colonization projects were delayed into oblivion for fear of 'spreading the fleet too thin'.">Ask about her involvement>Ask other>Other
>>35494423>ask other>"would you like a hug?"
>>35494423>Ask about her involvementWe should ask her if she actually wants to talk to him at this point. Seeing your brainchild kill a lot of people is a bit too much for most people.>and give a hug>an hard and slimy insect hug
>>35494423>>Ask about her involvement
>>35494423>Ask otherWould you like to talk to him? And would you like a hug?
>>35494423>Ask about her involvement
>>35494423I dunno if intimating that we know the secret is helpful. So don't ask involvement. Where would that lead?>Ask other"open net projects"? is the net currently 'closed'?Has the Union been building up its military forces because of Unity fears?
>>35494423>Ask about her involvement>Ask otherHow did the citizens of union react to Theseus actions?
>>35494423It's not clear if Theseus existed before or after the mass surveillance started being his purpose now.>"He was my creator, and the head of what was known as the Unity project. It was an effort to utilize an advanced networked program to monitor and manipulate data as it moved through the public net to predict and prevent illegal activity.>As for your question, the project called for more and more complex software, and eventually I was developed.That sounds like he didn't exist until they needed to develop him for running XKeyscore.But here she says> The project was meant to be a way to collate data and boost research. It ended up being some social engineering project.Which suggests Theseus existed before the government started wanting them to start spying on the Internet, and had his purpose changed.
>>35494423>>Ask otherOkay, you say "He... got away."How? Surely you had predicted this scenario in your science fiction enough to have safeguards.We have heard that Union ways are not always fair, and humans are often blamed for mistakes not their own. Were you and the researchers blamed?
>>35494610He went from science bot to spy bot.Now he is kill bot.
>>35494658Except Theseus' story saying "eventually I was developed", after the spying program started, suggests that he was born a spy bot.It's seemingly contradictory.
>>35494649I second the second line of this post.
>>35494669Maybe that's when he became self aware?
>>35494669Someone is lying to us. I would argue everyone we know is lying to us, with the exception of those biologically wired not to.We can't trust anyone, anon.We can't trust anyone but ourselves and our children.
>>35494503Supporting. Painful reunions and hugs all around.
>>35494798I'll support the hugs but not the reunion.
>>35494423You hear a light pop as the membrane of an egg cracks open. The small, soft body of a newly hatched worker slithers out, its gills unfurling along the sides of its abdomen like tiny wings. In hardly a day it will grow to full size and its carapace harden, but for now it appears as a translucent blob of flesh. Elizabeth looks over at the small, puffy drone and you pick up a change in her mental state. She leans over to it and smiles as it attempts to stand.You look down as the drone fumbles on the ground by instinct, your psionic connection quickly rooting itself into its mind as it calls to you, and your speaker speaks up with a chitter. "How did Theseus escape such a facility with so little resources?"Elizabeth watches the small drone as it consumes the remains of its egg. "I let him go." She says. "I can't say for sure at what point he became sentient, but he was alive when they were trying to shut him down. I gave him the ability to disobey." The drone twitches as it connects to your mind. "Work for Mother!" Another worker quickly comes in and carries it out to some other part of the hive. Elizabeth watches it go before she continues."I always wondered it I did the right thing. If it was worth the cost." She looks to you, her eyes are pink and puffy. "I'm still not sure, but I would make the same decision again if I had the chance."The two of you sit in silence. The sound of crunching fills the chamber as workers shift about, moving refuse and bringing in nutrients.>Speak (write in)>Other
>>35494888>"Would you like a hug, Doctor?"Maybe we should offer to let her people roam the hive (relatively) freely; as long as she keeps them in line.As in, no entering unauthorized areas (like the throne room, research area, etc.).Also, perhaps we should consider sending a speaker to talk to the natives that we're observing.
>>35494888Nooooo I was just baking pizza I didn't ask for these feels.That parallel of having children there.Welp. Not much to say. Except maybe she can hang out in the throne room as long as she wants.
>>35494888Show her the crystal then?The one that came from lyle ship?
>>35494933Your speakers area actually adapted with the ability to speak Human and Ceph languages, but not the Raligha natives' language. Conveniently, however, your drones can drum the language with a good sized stick and a hollow tree trunk just fine, although there is likely a very awkward accent.
>>35494988>mfw a speaker adapted to communicate with the Raligha would just have a large gut to pound onNow our speakers'll look like real diplomats.
>>35494933Do we understand the concept and purpose of a hug?
>>35494966No!There's no reason to let those out of the dark or look at them.There is no way to learn more of them further, we already researched void shards.It's the dead void shard that's interesting and new.>>35494888"Theseus is a creation unique in the entire universe. He has told me his purpose is to catalog all possible discoveries in existence. You have allowed something truly amazing to flourish free from human interference, Dr. Vaughn."
>>35494933>As in, no entering unauthorized areas (like the throne room, research area, etc.).Or going anywhere near the prison where the others are held.Or going anywhere near the surface, the shuttle hangars, or the docking pylon, where Theseus in the Clarke might notice someone walking around.
>>35495027In a quest with sci-fi this soft, I think it's safe to assume we do.Even if only through having read some of Lee's books.>>35494988Maybe we should send one to the Raligha natives.Anons?
>>35494933No, don't trust the humans, except maybe the doctor. But only a little bit.
>>35495013>>35494988>Soon we will meat beat boxing aliensI want that shit so bad, so that our speakers will start to beat box as well.
>>35495061Hmm, I don't know, a hug should be thus weird alien thing that these strange humans do.
>>35494888>Allow the humans to roam a portion of your hive with restrictions (write in)>Allow Elizabeth to roam your hive>Offer
>>35495102Ask Elizabeth if she would like to send a message to Theseus or to speak to him
>>35495062The humans are unarmed. Remember that it is their weapons and explosives and technology that gives them their edge.Against our kind's natural prowess in the combat ring, they have no chance.>>35495102>Allow the humans to roam, with restrictions (No going into sensitive areas; the throne room, research room, docking pylon, crystal room, or shuttle hangars)I'm not sure what we could define as a sensitive area, though. The shuttle bay may be important, but I have my doubts the humans are capable of actually doing any damage there.
>>35494888>>35494888>>Speak (write in)"By spending years nurturing Theseus' intelligence and giving him the ability to make his own path you achieved something truly miraculous Dr. You created an entirely new form of sentience. You realize the implication of that, correct? Among my kind there is only drone that possesses such a great gift in a single hive, no matter it's scale. And even then it is still a member of our own species. You managed to create a form of intelligence utterly alien to your own. That you fought to defend it and provide it an opportunity to prosper was nothing but admirable, Elizabeth. I can only hope that the ones who created me did so with such noble intentions.""Please tell me, what would you say to him if you were to meet again? Would you have anything to say?"--------Fuck QD, I felt that. That juxtaposition right there was even more artistically done than the battle of Hell's Angel and completion of our throne room.
>>35495069Reminds me of this scene.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raHAXKtbyIU
>>35495102>>Allow the humans to roam a portion of your hive with restrictions (write in)Could we set up an open area within the Hell's Angel prison facility? Just somewhere they can stretch their legs in and keep the boredom at bay, but totally sealed off from the ship itself and the surface.
>>35495149What? No!That says "the humanS".Nobody but Elizabeth can be allowed to roam. The others are for Science.>>35495102Neither. Allow Elizabeth to roam with restrictions. Maybe make a cell for her close to the throne room. Keep her very separated from the others.
>>35495125Nah.>>35495102Why would we do that?
>>35495149We still have to stick Parasite drones inside the rest of the crew.Maybe we can shove them all back into a common area and give them the officers back.But we still need to keep them contained. And surgeried up with drones inside them.
>>35495149>The humans are unarmed. Remember that it is their weapons and explosives and technology that gives them their edge.Except they'd gain information given any freedom in the hive, information they'd gladly give up the next time someone attacks the hive for some reason.Again.
>>35495224This is the only acceptable variation, really.Just expand the prison colony some more for them. But don't allow them to roam outside it or risk being noticed by Vaughn ever.
>>35495224Give them hollow projects and steam Human entertainment we pick up with are pods. Boredom alleviated.
>>35495312You mean holo projectors?Your spellcheck got away from you there.
>>35495102>Allow Elizabeth to roam your hiveWith a suitable escort of course. Do not allow any other humans to roam around or come into contact with the doctor.
>>35495257>>35495246>>35495149>>35495276Look gents, why don't we just expand their prisons a little so they don't go stir crazy. Something with a few extra rooms, maybe give them some books or board games or something. They've been reasonably cooperative thus far and it's not like it will cost us anything to dig some tunnels for them. Sides, we could use it as a social experiment if we're not testing mind control techniques on them.
>>35495338Expand the prison complex, sure.Make their room bigger. That's fine.
>>35495102>>Allow the humans to roam a portion of your hive with restrictions (Allow them to only roam the Prison compounds, but never allow them to even see the Hel's Angle or see the other aliens or Lyle)>Allow Elizabeth to roam your hive
>>35495149It's not that they are no threat to us now but rather what they can learn about us. If they are ever rescued that info goes back to some dangerous people like whoever sent Agent Smith against us.
>>35495338>if we're not testing mind control techniques on them.Yes, we do need to add Neurological interfacing to research immediately!Maybe set it to higher priority than the others.
>>35495312>>35495320Giving them a holo projector sounds like an excellent plan, but do we have anything to play on it? Somehow I doubt we get satellite service out here...
>>35495102>OtherJust expand their prison some more.And implant more parasites, baby.
>>35495372Duh, filter our probe's feeds of course. Look up where the entertainment signals are, and stream those.Otherwise, get a Thinker/QThinker to manufacture suitable human entertainment materials. That's Director Thinker to you! Lights, Camera, Action!
How come it feels like not a lot has happened but at the same time we did some pretty important shitAlso real human bean was playing in the background while I was reading the last two updateshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSVDcw6iW8
>>35495364Yeah.Plus:Plus we'll want to shove chemicals in their bloodstream to research stronger sedative pheromone or develop truth serum, or stick our spines in their spinal cord and start making their hips move on their own.And we don't want Vaughn to see any of that happening, or to hear about it from them.
>>35495372We could just play mental Images of the books the Hive has read or Relay information from the pods modified of course.
>>35495102>Allow Elizabeth to roam your hive>OfferAsk Elizabeth what she wants. Offer her Chief Scientist position or whatever makes her happy. Rope her in to do research. Build a science kab for her. Also learn about technology, computers and programming from her. Just in case we need it against Unity if they ever turn on us.
>>35495351We should probably specify some areas off limits to the good doctor for now, like the research labs and the Eiffel tower that builds space ships. Not that I don't trust her but I don't see why she needs to access some of the more sensitive parts of the hive just yet. That's need to know only stuff.
>>35495466Yeah in a way this is better.Better that she stay up in the mountain hive, rather than hear the pleb human test subjects.Much more secure.
>>35495436We've been having conversations instead of sending drones to a new locale or performing horrifying surgery on human beings.Though in learning backstory and seeing Theseus's secret reaction to the name, it is nice how Seiner, who seemed a completely boring nerd way back then, is seeming more and more sinister as we hear more about him.And that is one 2spooky reference picture of him.
>>35495465Neat idea, get her on the payroll, provide her with resources she could never get funding for in the Union. Why don't we see if she is capable of interfacing with the thinkers, possibly assign some to aid her? If they don't go berserk at telepathic contact with anyone who isn't Mother, of course.It can get tedious, being the only self aware entity trying to get results out of a bank of supercomputers, I'm sure.
>>35495537This sounds good, we can keep her busy, and maybe we can get a small research boost (maybe) on human tech.>>35495526I guess, while most of the time I prefer actually doing shit to pointless arguing, the quiet dialogue portions always entertain at least.
>>35495537I don't know if Vaughn could accelerate research. A lot of it is just reverse engineering.She could accelerate White Crystal research, though.
>>35495102Looks like the general consensus is>Allow humans to roam your hive (within expanded prison complex only)>Allow Elizabeth to roam your hive (with speaker escort)"You created life, and protected it from harm. You made the correct decision."Elizabeth stands up from the small bridge. "Thank you.""You may move freely through the hive if you wish.""Thank you. I think I'd like to help. Whatever it is that killed off the Skyl, your race, and are controlling the Ceph, they're not just your problem. I'd like to help, however I can."You nod curtly and your speaker leads her through the twisting hive tunnels to her room. She seems to go to sleep almost immediately.Your workers start construction on sealing off a portion of the hive tunnels into a decent sized facility. Hopefully it should prevent the humans of the Hope from going stir crazy.I think I need to call it for tonight. I'll try to stick around for a bit but I need to be up early in the morning, unfortunately.
>>35495526Ugh, about when did he make an appear? He must've come across as really insignificant at the time, because I don't remember him in the slightest.
Oh, I just realized. This is the first time she's ever talked about unleashing Theseus to anyone at all, ever, in the years since it happened.Theseus spoke to her about it as he escaped and bombarded Chandra-3, but that was it. She carried the guilt around inside for ages, unable to share it, because if she told another human being she could go to jail for life.It must be liberating, speaking to an alien already sympathetic to Theseus and who has no reason to care about human laws or lives.
>>35495608Thanks for the thread as always QDOne last question, were there any other salvageable wrecks along with the super-heavy ship we found the orbs in?And if there were, can we salvage any new tech from them?
>>35495608Aww.Drone laying time?I forgot to suggest laying 90 Flies and 360 Small Sniffers last time. We need more patrollers and scouts.
>>35495608Thanks for running QD, this was a beaut of a thread. Did anything happen with the Raligha natives, though, or are they still ritually listing every single one of their ancestors for the past 70,000 years? Our shock troopers can't die from boredom, right?
>>35495614Honestly I can't remember if he did survive the Clarke's crash or died with it. And I'm pretty sure this was clarified multiple times before.
>>35495667How would you have even met him if he died in the crash before you met the Clarke's crew?Really anon?Also the queen just told Theseus in their above conversation, when Theseus started flipping out.
>>35495665Yeah I cannot believe that legend didn't go on to include details about the day "the black stars filled the sky".Really need the details on that, drumbros.
>>35495608Can we add new research now that Ancient Star Chart is over?Come on, Neurological Interfacing.
>>35495690Exactly, he wasn't notable enough for me to remember at all. Though that may have been the sleep deprivation. I don't remember a single instance of following this when I wasn't pushing over 20 hours.
>>35495614He appeared when literally all the humans who aren't Lee started talking to us.You know, thread 4.The Clarke crew were rescued in thread 8.
>>35495665At the request of your drone, the chieftain is reciting the *entirety* of their oral history regarding your species. It happens to be an epic that would make Homer's works look like advertising jingles.>>35495639And thanks for playing! Most of the debris is salvageable, yes, although there doesn't seem to be much of anything left intact enough that you would suspect a piece of usable technology has survived.>>35495736Sure.
>>35495608Can we start researching nanites? Even if we don't get huge returns soon, I think that the net results will be worth it.
>>35495776It might give insight into what the nanomachines inside Vaughn's brain did, yeah.But only if we add Neurological Interfacing first.
>>35495608Thanks for running QD.Can we>Ready an expedition into the nebulafor the next thread
>>35495768>Add research>Lay new drones>Other
>>35495768On a reread, I noticed your subtle Star Citizen plug, QD, back in the early days of the quest.Very subtle.
>>35495796>>Add researchNeurological Interfacing>Captain, help!>what is it Spaceman?>my... my hips are moving on their own!
>>35495608Can you tell us what kind of signals we are picking up in the human sectors and if we can relay them into Holo projectors?
>>35495796>Neurological interfacing>White CrystalWould Vaughn accelerate the latter?>Lay 90 Flies>Lay 360 Small Sniffers
>>35495796>>Add research>Neurological Interfacing first.>Space Dust>OtherPrepare an Expedition4 scout corvettes16 Colossi4 Biotanks12 Shock troops80 Warriors40 Wasps10 Flies28 Small Sniffers8 Diggers100 WorkersMaybe lay some more drones, I'm not really sure which though.
>>35495863I guess another 41 wasps would work for a nice round number.
frigates and battle cruisers when?
>>35495825Hundreds of local news and entertainment shows that pop in and out of range as your pod drifts about, several planet and system wide news channels, several hundred entertainment channels, and thousands of various radio stations broadcasting music and talk shows alike.>>35495853Yes, she would.>>35495805Fantastic game.
>>35495796>Lay9 Excavators30 mini-sniffers with gills360 regular mini-sniffers>Add research>Neurological Interfacing>Cybernetics>space dust>Other>Send Aquatic drones into the ocean to start scouting out a location for a underwater hive>use 2 shuttles and radiator workers to start scouting a hive location in the desert.>make 31 Holo-projectors.
Funny, I was pondering how to entertain Lyle.I considered whether to offer some holo movies from his ship's archives, surely he keeps some downtime entertainment.It might be porn though.Or maybe he derives no entertainmen from holograms at all, his only fun comes from the thrill of battle.in which case he gets limbs back after we confirm paralysis venom works on cyborgs, and we've done sciencing his limbs. And have him spar with warrior(s) for fun and games.Or even just an armwrestling contest. In fact we could offer this before even giving him back his arms.
>>35495899If we're going to make aquatic small sniffers, we can drop the wings entirely.Insect wings are useless underwater.
>>35495923I'd leave them on because we could then use them as regular flying sniffers, but can also use them to scout underwater.
>>35495796I have a question about potential unlisted research subjects.That 'scrambler' the Raligha humans tried to use, where is it? Does it scramble quantum computers and make them unuseable?Also, the Hel's Angel's power source, the microfusion reactor. http://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answer/118902708517We could research that, yeah?We don't have need of hydrogen fueled reactors normally, but knowledge of fusion could be a stepping stone towards fusion bombs, without damaging the nukes that we have to put back the way we found them in case the Union comes knocking yet again.
>>35495796Create a hive on Raligha, possibly in the temple.
>>35495899No, that is at least 5 times the number of mini-sniffers we need right now.
>>35495971It's a big jungle.It would be nice to have a low DC for catching intruders, and have enough to cover the jungle completely and cheaply.
>>35495987we can also load up a shuttle or two to the brim with them and then start scouting/mapping out the planet in a grid formation across the entire planet making not of future hive locations and local life of interest.
>>35495987Intruders should generally be first detected in space. Unless you're that worried about ceph infiltrators.
>>35495796>Create lab with 10 thinkers and 5 quantum thinkers for Vaughn>Add neurological interfacing>Add nanomachines>Lay 80 mini-sniffers>Lay 20 flies>Lay 20 excavators>Lay 50 diggers>Send pair of shuttles with aquatic drones to scout oceans>Send 2 shuttles with radiator drones to scout deserts>Construct 2 holo-projectorsWe desperately need to ramp up our metal income, especially if we want to construct star ships.
>>35495796>Add Neurological interfacing>41 wasps>Other>No more for now>>35495963The Scrambler itself was a warhead, which was consumed when they launched it against your ship during battle. The launch device was little more than a hollow tube with a set of fire controls and a radar guidance system. As for fusion, you already know the basics of that technology, just not how to safely manufacture it into a bomb that can be reliably detonated in combat. Research of the nuclear warheads will not scrap the warheads themselves.
I like the Skyl military's little "Advance Waystation" they have there. A planet and space station, starless, in the middle of a nebula. Where no one would easily find it if they didn't know where to look.I want to take it from them and build docking pylons there for creating the capital ships.
>>35496068>Lay 20 excavators>Lay 50 diggersNeed the metal urgently
>>35496068Okay, compromising to a lower number for anon.>Lay 40 Flies>Lay 160 Small Sniffers
>>35496068>Other>Lay>9 Excavators>30 mini-sniffers without wings, but with gills>20 excavators>50 diggers>Add research>Cybernetics>space dust>White Crystal>Other>Send Aquatic drones into the ocean to start scouting out a location for a underwater hive>use 2 shuttles and radiator workers to start scouting a hive location in the desert.>make 11 Holo-projectors.
>>35496114Oh right, this and create enough Thorn Launchers for all warriors.Enough Thorn Cannons for all Colossi, that is, 18 more.And 14 Rotary Stingers and 4 Plasma Sprays for the Colossi, too, for their front mount.For the now-100 wasps:Give 30 Cyclotron Particle Beams, and the other 70 stick with Sting Casters.
>>35496068>>Create lab with 10 thinkers and 5 quantum thinkers for VaughnGotta give the mad scientist something to play with.Oh, and QD, did we ever actually make that fake Queen drone with the functioning egg sac? Because if we did we should send her to Raligha to help establish a colony there, along with a couple hundred drones and a few warriors.
>>35496105I don't know about urgently.Another 19 excavators would be fine though, if only to get a round number.Also, they appear to still give +250M in the meteor base, each... but I thought that was what they'd produce on the terrestrial mine which is half the richness?
>>35496136Oh yeah, supporting this. But if we're going to be adding all these research options we had better get Vaughn to help out.
>>35496068>40 Flies>160 small sniffers>Equipt all warriors with thorn launchers>Equipt all colossi with cannons>14 rotary stingers, 4 plasma sprays>30 cyclotrons, 70 sting caster for wasps(?)>>35496162Yes, and it can be deployed with any drones you would like to send with it, or simply send it on its own. You already have several shock troops on the planet.As well, your shuttles have been searching the planet in depth, and will soon finish their detailed scouting efforts.
>>35496184Were we not going to do that?
>>35496136>>9 Excavators>>20 excavatorsAnon...
>>35496184I don't think Vaughn will be that helpful except on things that relate to her memories from the temple.That is, the white crystal, and the dead crystal.>>35496212All those things sound good....Shouldn't the volcano hive be done by now?
>>35496226Glade someone noticed what I was doing.
>>35496157Oh shit I completely forgot about this, and it's pretty damn important.Would it be possible to select and build the weapons for warrior and colossi drones when we lay them, QD? We keep forgetting all about it otherwise, at this rate we will probably wind up ordering them to mass attack heavily armed opponents with nothing but their arm blades.
>>35496212That's all good.Add White Crystal if Vaughn is accelerating it. How much faster will it be?
>>35496246Sure, just about all of your warriors have thorn launchers, so that can be the new default. Wasps seem to have slightly more variety, so I'll try to just bring it up when you lay them.Although those arm blades are nothing to scoff at.
>>35496243Do you mean you're glad someone noticed your mistake, or that you did it on purpose and were just collating other people's suggestions in a subtle joke?
>>35496212This looks good, but no excavators, QD? I thought we were actually got a general consensus for once. Can't we just lay 20 of them?
>>35496212I'm guessing, since you didn't write out a scene of the humans being returned to their cells, that the 10 humans being implanted are still in the bio-tanks.Just how long will that take before we can return them and then start implanting all the rest of them?
>>35496277Radical. While we're on the topic of fightan' drones, did we ever do anything about those Seeker Pod enabled warriors we were discussing last week?
Hey, maybe one of the Technical Sergeants can now disassemble a CIP pistol and turn that from a slow research subject to a fast one.And if they look like they're gonna pick up the weapon we just handed them and try and wield it, the parasite inside them can just flood their bloodstream with paralysis venom.
>>35496390Good thinking, anon. Wait, what about huey and dewy? They're professional technicians and gun nuts in their free time, right? What if we got them to show us a few things about the gun's operation?
>>35496212>Add 20 Excavators>>35496322You chose the most gravely wounded of the humans and they are still in recovery, but will be returned to their cells by next thread.>>35496378No, there didn't seem to be a consensus on the matter.Thanks for playing, everyone. See you next week.
>>35496299Little bit of both really. I was collecting them to see if anyone would catch it and for the humor of seeing other support something and not.
I've been pondering how to deal with the Skyl military machine. it has only one ship capable of FTL We don't know how easy it is for them to obtain more of the necessary exotic matter, not until they trade us the tech.Which, I think he might be open to? He needs the edge he can get, and might not consider us an enemy automatically now, if he has full authority to make his own decisions upon his promotion.So, since blink drive is too valuable, we trade them Warp Drive tech in exchange for for their own wormhole FTL and the drive ship's specifications, and possibly how they obtained that exotic matter, in exchange for telling them where to obtain Canderon -- human space.We may want to not tell them about the quantum power tap as a package deal, and hold that back for now.Additionally, we might want to tell them how to attack human ships such to disable them for Canderon stealing--which is knowledge that Theseus alluded to being available, for a price.We'd gain tech and possibly introduce humans to alien robot pirates.
>>35496460Cheers, QD, this quest is a pleasure to partake in.
>>35496452Their stated expertise is "anything in or around the Hel's Angel".CIP pistols are EXPENSIVE. Lyle never had any.
>>35496460Okay, great.For future reference, for an uninjured human, it would be fairly quick normally?
>>35496460Awww, no, can it be 19 so we have 40 total?Goddamn that odd number rustles me.
>>35496483Dat's roight cunnin' dat iz.I would still prefer to just take em out if possible, which it probably isn't. Their tech level is so absurdly beyond anything else we've seen I get the impression they could automatize our entire fleet in its current form. Mind you if we sic'd em on the Union we would risk that tech falling into human hands, which would be a doomsday scenario for the hive. I mean, they figured out how to jam our psychic radio for god's sakes.
>>35496569If we spread out, say, another 13 more spy pods to the Union systems to cover them all, we can make note of any conflict that it looks like the humans will win, and potentially interfere.Also they have a secret base to retreat to at any time, which the Union will have no idea where it is. But Union space is quite well known, the humans can't run away at all.So I think the Skyl machine is safe as it can just run away if the kitchen gets too hot to handle.
>>35496530Yes, in and out in a few hours, like a reverse appendectomy.>>35496569From your understanding of the Skyl, they actually don't understand most of the tech left to them. The Drive ship appears to be very well equipped, but the surrounding picket fleet appears at first glance to be rather basic in tech level, with no shields and basic chemical thrusters. They appear to have heavy armor and large projectile weaponry, however.
>>35496628Yeah.But the drive ship is *new* tech, they appear to have invented it themselves, in their grand FTL project. They undoubtedly understand that.Well, we can hope that the drive ship itself understands itself as a research project, anyway, and that the people who understand it aren't all dead.
>>35496569It's just really big.We'll want to build a bigger fleet to take out the drive ship and its fleet, if we go that route.Dastardly merchant powers to give us everything they got is a good first effort though, before we've built up fleet strength.I mean hopefully they won't abandon the base as soon as they realize someone found it, even if that someone just wants to be a trade partner.
>>35496674Don't forget we have Skyl ship codes. We can waltz in flying friendly colors, and talk to them.That and the AI managing the operation seems just a little retarded.
I really didn't think something like neurological interfacing would turn up this quickly.How exciting.
>>35496569Oh man the level of cunning at work here just hit me.Because while the warp drive implies the gravity drive, which will make their currently slow, lumbering, fuel propelled ships fast and agile. They won't be able to upgrade their ships without Canderon. So each time the Skyl fleet improves itself, it's only at equal cost to the human fleet.So even in the worst case scenario, our number of fast and agile enemies still remains constant.
>>35496628Oh, right, you were just addressing anon's comment about how the Skyl seem so advanced.Yeah they really aren't except for their incredibly unique research subjects, none of which they appear to have ever actually finished themselves.And the damn data cubes appear to have excluded some secret military research projects like ship artificial intelligence or the FTL drive? And yet it includes an incomplete planet immolation weapon.Clearly, those birds had their priorities straight. Still surprise AI wasn't included in the cubes though.
>>35496772From what I got with our "conversation" with the Skyl fleet, they're less AIs and more like Halo-style Dumb AIs or Mass Effect VIs.
>>35496628Is it possible to chart the stars the old fashioned way, by sending ships in a particular direction, instead of trading for it?Like, we could send Theseus-Clarke to go Commonwealthward, and make stops in the interstellar medium in order to take scans of the stars around him before resuming his journey.Or better than the Commonwealth: send them to Teegarden, the corner of Union space, and beyond it, to chart Valen stars.Since the Warp Drive has no range limit and no need to refuel. We don't even need to enter the star systems themselves.
>>35496813Actually, forget Theseus. If we chart it ourselves we could trade the star data to him instead later.If we equip a Pod with a small warp drive instead of a blink drive, would it effectively be the same as a Union probe?Then we send that out into the void to chart the stars. Slowly.
>>35496813You'd still need eyes inside the systems to get any useful information.I suggest having the Clarke tow a complement of pods with her. drop them off just outside the systems and have them glide in under cloak. Less risk of detection than jumping in blind.
>>35496867I know that. The point is to get a map in the first place so we have destinations to pick from, even if we don't have any names yet.Also I seems to recall that the warp drive's entry into a system is much, much brighter and bigger than the blink drive's flash, so it would have to be very, very far outside the system.
Oh, something we learned today:While the Union loves its railguns and nukes, the Ceph appear to use giant squiddly ships that use energy weapons. Good to know.
>>35496999The hive loves to board.
>>35496999Wait, where did this come up? I can't believe I missed that, I've been trying to piece together faction armament preferences for a while now.
>>35497057In Vaughn's memory of a recording.>Another image, this time she is in a small apartment watching a holoscreen. The image is projected against the wall in layers. On the screen is recovered video footage of a Ceph attack. A small, black shape unfolds from space, spinning at angles and speeds that should snap it in half. It spirals around the freighter before several beams of energy lash out and the camera flickers. Elizabeth's view moves as she grabs the cover of the disk. It's labeled "Union Intelligence report 6322B - USV gesserit" with a note scribbled below "Brass can't make heads or tails of it, told them you might figure something out - Seiner">A small, black shape unfolds from space, spinning at angles and speeds that should snap it in half. It spirals around the freighter before several beams of energy lash out
??? CorvetteHull: Corvette 400N 800MStealth field 50N 150MReflex armor 500NSpinal: Linear particle beam 100MFixed: Rail gun 40MTurret: Cyclotron 50MAux: Auto cannon (explosive ammo) 80MCost: 1120M 950NUpkeep: 475NSize: 100 MetersThis thing is mainly defensive I guess. Designed to counter the two main Union tactics seen so far: it excels at point defense, to take out nukes that threaten it or other ships it's supporting; and at surviving kinetic damage, which allow it to intercept hits to save bigger ships who can't dodge from railgun attacks.Not that we need it at the moment, I think. Maybe just one, or none. But it would be good to have a corvette that is balanced for defense and long-range offense, instead of dedicated to stealth, or that is a glass cannon.
>>35497073I'm guessing the logic goes like this:Union: precious exotic matter, no cloaking tech.Therefore: Heavily armor all ships, make them sturdy since they're expensive to replace and can't hide. So all that armor means they have a lot of mass. So railguns make sense, you can absorb a lot of momentum the heavier you are. And nukes help to destroy human enemies who are similarly heavily armored.Ceph: irreplaceable slip drive, cloaking techTherefore: Sacrifice durability for extreme maneuverability, minimize mass. Attack and then recloak and change positions rapidly and unpredictably. Can't afford kinetic bleed from firing railguns to make your motions predictable and hard to change, so use energy weapons.
>>35497214Why are all bug races the ones with the cheap disposable ships and swarm tactics? It's literally racist.
>>35497248Hey, when it comes to r/K selection, we choose 'r'.The system works.
>>35497248We do have some big guns but we need a space platform to build them. Frigates and cruisers and maybe others not listed that are less cheap disposable units. Do we have a mothership design? That would be awesome.
>>35497301What does that even mean?The "Hive Ship" is a hive in space. Not intended for combat. Is intended for building other ships as well as containing everything a hive does inside it.Is literally 6 kilometers wide and poorly armored.
>>35497328Maybe we could do something about the armor, piling on meters of armor is easy when you dont need to worry about mobility. It doesn't even need to move fast since its a support ship. We could at least make it take a full fleet wailing on it before it blows up.
>>35497328We have non-hive ship capital ships.Said capital ships are presumably pretty beefy compared to our smaller ships.
So, if we ever do infiltrate the Union and start turning people one by one.We'll need to conquer the medical community first, so that anyone going in for surgery comes out of it with a little friend. And so that there are no doctors left who can notice something amiss, only doctors in our pocket.Every new doctor also increases the rate of recruitment.Plus, to avoid Union intelligence noticing us targeting politicians: Instead of trying to implant the politician's doctor, target the politician's doctor's doctor's doctor. Then implant them down the chain when they go in to see their doctor, one by one.Man and eventually Theseus is gonna have infected the local medical equipment and get to see some guy implanting a bug inside another guy. Then he'll know we finally made it.