A dark thicket of thorny, fleshy trees twists and coils in a dense carpet across a great valley. Various creatures fly and stomp and crawl their way through the thicket in an endless cycle of survival, rarely wandering from the cover of the strange, coiling plants. A small serpentine creature slithers along a vine with its many tiny legs. It unfolds itself like a piece of cloth as it leaps from one branch to another, turning its body into a spiraling wing before planting its large beak into the soft bark and wrapping itself safely around the tree. You recognize the little creature. Despite the many differences, it is clearly a descendant of the Skyl.The proto-skyl squeals in fright and drops the seed as a great thunder shakes the valley. This was a new sound, and as terrifying as it was, the young soon-to-be sapient needed to know the source. A twisting leap and the creature landed firmly near the top of the tree it had been climbing, and above that the open sky. A great fiery orb breaks through the clouds with a thunderclap as it leaves a smoky scar across the sky. The Skyl can only watch, mesmerized by the twisting obsidian rock as it falls to the ground.It impacts with the force of an atomic bomb. The blinding light outshines the local star as a shockwave beyond anything this planet had ever seen expanded across the valley, ripping the massive roots of the thicket like dead weeds against a hurricane. You couldn't imagine anything surviving such a crash, and yet there it is, that obsidian stone lying in a crater of charred soil and ash. After a moment of silent steaming, the surface of the stone cracks slightly as a thin black crystalline spike protrudes from the stone and plants itself into the ground.Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone
>>35328454>Current armory121 Thorn Launchers2 Thorn Cannons53 Sting Casters1 Rotary Stinger3 Fire Sprays1 Plasma Spray>Current resource reservesNutrients: 17235Metals: 22135>Hive population and upkeep cost Hive maintenance – 325Queen – 5Fake Queen – 22Worker (2000) – 4000Radiator Worker (40) – 160Warrior (209) – 1045Thinker (139) – 417Quantum Thinker (110) – 550Speaker – (3) – 12Digger (80) – 320Refinery (10) – 70Sniffer (2) – 8Small Sniffer (40) – 40Fly (10) – 40 Wasp (59) – 295Antenna (3) – 9Haz-mat Workers (20) – 80Shock Troops (40) – 520Parasite (30) – 120Bio-tank (10) – 250Excavator (9) – 171Colossus (6) – 90Advanced Relay (16) – 1600Space Pod (13) – 390Shuttle (10) – 250Scout Corvette – (6) 1350Lancer Corvette – (2) 450Nutrient costs: 10789>IncomeMetals: 3750Nutrients: 20050Net: 9261Hive Structure>Reservoir>General storage>Food storage>Advanced Laboratory>Infrastructure>Hangar facilities: Room for 40 Aero Drones and 20 Shuttles (25N)>Mine: +1500 M per day (+25 M per digger)>Asteroid mining base: +2250M per day (+50 M per digger)>Algae Farm: +20000 N per day, 200 Workers (1 worker per 100N)>Clarke Research Outpost>Hel’s Angel Prison Outpost>Docking Pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 ships (50N)>Anti-orbital battery: 2 (125N per battery)Current construction200 FarmsNew Construction Options>Algae Farm – +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain>Hangar Expansion – Add on to current hangar facilities for your choice of +40 aero drone space, or +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Anti-orbital battery – A bunker armed with a massive Particle beam capable of attacking ships in orbit from the ground. It includes the power and sensor systems required to operate it. 250N 1500MShip Construction Optionshttp://pastebin.com/YTwGk8n1
>>35328469Months pass. Years. Decades. Centuries. The crater appears like a massive geode, a forest of slender crystal spires assembled around a massive structure that hums in silence, calling out to something. Soon it is answered. A small Skyl crawls out from the new forest that has regrown from the ashes around the crater. It is larger than the one you saw before, and four of its legs have become tiny fins to help guide it in the air. Its beak has remained large and sharp, but the rest of it has grown to a better proportion. Its eye cluster is transfixed, centered on the great central pillar at the base of the crater, and the young Skyl moves into the crystal forest.The forest has been torn up and paved in twisting plastic and rolling fields of cement. Spires of glass shoot up to the sky and twist around each other with endless vines of metal and carbon fiber. In the center of the great city is a black obelisk towering over the entire valley. Dark branches of crystal sprout from the top at odd angles and chips float from the main body like balloons adrift in the breeze, moving across the skyline like patrolling predators on the hunt. Not far from the edge of the crater is the shipyards, where you see hundreds of hulls lifting into the air. One after another they funnel into orbit and flicker into the strangeness of slipspace.
>>35328528>The crater appears like a massive geode, a forest of slender crystal spires assembled around a massive structure that hums in silence, calling out to something.Wait a second. Don't we have something like that in our system?
>>35328550>>35328528I hope not
>>35328572>P2: This elliptical shaped planetoid is composed of various metals, with visible rivers of mercury running through mountains of crystallized rock formations. The day lasts roughly six minutes, causing tremendous strain on the planet, maintaining its nearly disc like shape. At the equator, a geostationary orbit is enough to escape orbit, making any landing attempt dangerous at best. Atmosphere is thicker in the poles, and is composed of a mixture of sulfur oxide, argon, and nitrogen. Due to geothermal anomalies likely a result of its rapid rotation, forests of crystals are a common sight across the planet.This is in our system. We're living next door to the enemy.
>>35328454>it is clearly a descendant of the Skyl.Short of time travel shenanigans, I'm almost sure you meant 'an ancestor'.>>35328550No. Absolutely nothing like it.This is just their version of the Ceph's "Singing Stone" Coil spoke of.The black obelisk equivalent that uplifted them.
>>35328605Well we do have one in our basement Frak this is Sins of a Solar Empire isn't? Are we the Vasari and need to start running?
Say gents, while we're on the subject of alien civilizations, I was thinking it might be prudent to start gathering a bit of intel on the Unity and Union, and figure out how much they know about us. It's obvious we're common knowledge within the Union at this point.>Quiz Theseus/Vaughn/Lyle on what is being said about you in human space, and why it is prompting riots and social upheaval.>Quiz Elizabeth Vaughn on her relationship with Theseus, and why he and the Union are in conflict.The more we know about the other factions the better our position to play them off against each other is.
>>35328701I think I have an idea of how to defend ourselves from their planetcracker but it would a lot of research and resources.
>>35328701At least we have FTL drives to get out of Dodge.
>>35328528There is war. Endless war on endless worlds. Demons and heretics, horrid beings that would defy the gods with their mere existence. The priests listen to the hum of the forest and decree what worlds must burn and what worlds must forish. You watch as year after year, century after century the Skyl that swarm among the city and around the crystal forest become more and more strange. Their motions more rote and predictable.As the wars go on, fleets go missing, assumed destroyed in the line of duty. Before long, some return. Panic and dissent spreads through the planet as more and more of the fleets return as heretics. The war is far bloodier than any faught previously, and for a short moment the rebels take the planet and bombard the spire. The planet is in ruins, but at the end the spire is gone, missing from its crater for the first time in millennia. The fleet moves to resettle their home.
>>35328810I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
>>35328837Reminds me of Babylon 5
>>35328844We create a Slaver Stasis Field to block it.I've done some research and know what we have to do to get it.
Could we design a weapon to capture ships using the rapid repair ship tech offensively? As in maybe shoot a kinetic projectile filled with it and when it hits a ship it will spread out and try to fill all empty space, then after it reaches a certain area it can contract and harden. So it could disable the ship without killing everyone on it, for research purposes.
>>35328837There is peace. For a time.With their gods believed dead many Skyl turn inward for guidance. Cults rise and fall in support of the old ones that once ruled the planet, and colonies are planned and plotted. Massive space projects are built and monuments to invicible Skyl erected in celebration. Who else could make claim to the title of the slayer of gods? They looked to the stars, to the universe they once waged war across as slaves and knew it was theirs by right to take.But with the source of their spaceflight gone, it was a slow journey. Fleets sent out to nearby systems erected vast constructs to further their goals, but as they closed in on their goal, their scouts went dark. Signals of destruction on world after world until the space around their home bent and twisted. The fleets in orbit fight for their lives as they are scattered like insects. The planet cracks and warps as the seething mass pours from slipspace, shattering the planet like an egg.The stream ends, but there is a small entry afterwards. In their wars they found a way to free themselves, and in the end their victory was that when they were given the choice, they made god bleed. For the captain of the ship from which the cube had been taken, that was enough.
>>35329135Finished Research>Skyl Data CubesUsing the broken one retrieved from the ship sped up the process to some degree, and allowed you to open it up without fear of damaging data. The cube appears to utilize a suspension of deliberately aligned and attuned semi-solid crystalline particles arranged in an intricate pattern to hold photons in place, releasing them only when the data is requested. The result is a highly complex device capable of storing data indefinitely, but once retrieved it cannot be accessed again, destroying whatever data it held upon retrieval. According to the data within, this was in response to their enemy’s incredibly effective methods of intelligence gathering. The cubes were used to store sensitive information that needed to be seen by only a single individual, or in this case, to be stored over an extended period of time without data loss. Your thinkers have analyzed the data within, erasing it from the cube in the process. It holds an overview of Skryl biology, society, and technology, as well as an overview of their history, rebellion, and subsequent destruction by beings they perceived as gods.>Raligha native languageThe strange drumming language of the native creatures has been decoded, although until you can actually get some experience with it in conversation there are bound to be at least a few minor kinks in your translations. You doubt you could manage to put your claw in your mandibles too much though, after all, they seem to worship you.Current Research>Ancient Star chartThe ancient inscriptions clearly depict a vast number of star systems and galactic landmarks across the cosmos. With the limited translations provided by Dr. Elizabeth Vaughn has greatly sped up the translation. In a surprising turn of events, however, the language appears to be remarkably similar to the Skyl language recovered from within the salvaged data cube. The language itself is completely different, but the symbols are almost identical.
>>35329181>It holds an overview of Skryl biology, society, and technologyStill wondering what we got.
>>35329181>technologyThis i like
>>35329181Your thinkers have finished transcribing the data within the cube, and are ready to review the more technical details for useable technology at your discretion. In addition, your pod has completed its approach of M-323.>Look through the technical archives>Direct your pod at M-323>Discuss your discoveries and recent events with Theseus (Write in)>Speak with Dr. Vaugn>Speak with Coil about the Skyl>Introduce yourself to the Raligha natives>Other
>>35329181>It holds an overview of Skryl biology, society, and technology, as well as an overview of their history, rebellion, and subsequent destruction by beings they perceived as gods.It's might be everything we need to jump start our empire in one little package!
>>35329297>Look through the technical archives>Speak with Dr. Vaugn>Direct your pod at M-323
>>35328605You're being kinda ridiculous. Not every crystal is magic crystals.Those crystal formations are perfectly explainable by mundane physics and geology, and don't sing telepathic whispers that call to us.Which is what a true Singing Stone would be doing, since it's just one great monolith of a void shard.>>35328808None of that is going to help you learn what you want to learn, you realize. They don't know anything. Raligha crew didn't even know there was a bug race until it attacked them, and Lyle only has the old intelligence reports, not recent street gossip. And you've seen how cooperative he is to even share what his intelligence reports said.We already did the one thing that will get the hive any information that you want. There's a spy pod in Tau Ceti. It can eavesdrop on the news about the G-426 bug race riots.And you already know why Unity split from the Union. Read last thread. Theseus knew they wanted to shut down all his servers at the research station. So he found a way to escape while destroying any evidence of how he became able to break the laws of robotics, so that Vaughn wouldn't go to prison.You want to learn more, send more spy pods to more systems. Only thing of interest is just how long ago Chandra-3 was destroyed, and what the "security leak" was that caused the research station to become politically radioactive. Probably Seiner's fault somehow. That, you might want to ask the non-Vaughn humans, so she doesn't start to suspect that you can see into her dreams. That kind of accidental invasion of privacy could well make her a bit more irrational and uncooperative.>>35329181Right. We've seen the ancient crystal hives were at war against their own species--both sides used black organic ships, in the latest vision--so presumably Their origin is tied up with the crystal hives somehow. Either a creation, or an evolution of them? So they taught the Skyl the same old written language they knew.
>>35329297>Look through the technical archives>Speak with Coil about the Skyland>Introduce yourself to the Raligha nativesthese guys might know more about the Temple ruins or other ruins we haven't found yet.
>>35329297>Introduce yourself to the Raligha natives Need to talk with the allies>Discuss your discoveries and recent events with Theseus (Write in)Is the union in a civil war?
>>35329297Talking to Coil is a trap option. Do not go full heretic. You never go full heretic.>>Direct your pod at M-323>OtherTalk to Theseus about the monitor satellite at A-295, and how great it would be if he could install himself on it to blind the Union.
>>35329297>Speak with Dr. VaugnLet's reintroduce her and Theseus
>>35329357Union in a civil war? That is a good question we should ask Theseus.
>>35329297>Look through the technical archives>Discuss your discoveries and recent events with Theseus, ask him what he would be willing to offer for the different parts of the data the historical and the technical.
>>35329297>Look through the technical archives>Direct your pod at M-323>>35329342>You're being kinda ridiculous. Not every crystal is magic crystals.So far all we've seen are magic crystals and don't you think that planet is worth at least investigating?
>>35329401>and the technical.No
>>35329401Theseus want to know everything, so since this data was destroyed on use, we are the only source ever now. And we already told them everything else about them for assistance fighting the union, so they probably are willing to deal even for just history stuff.
>>35329357>>35329397Why in the world would you ask that bullshit, they obviously aren't. Why are you repeating what the other anon said for no reason?Some terrorist groups blowing up one building doesn't constitute 'civil war'.>>35329297>>Direct your pod at M-323
>>35329449We should limit what we give him. But we do need to trade something to get shield tech.
>>35329297>Look through the technical archives>Direct your pod>Speak with Dr. Vaugn>Speak with Coil about the skyl>Introduce yourself to the Raligha natives>start treating the critical conditioned humans and adding parasite drones to them.
>>35329297>>Introduce yourself to the Raligha natives>>Discuss your discoveries and recent events with Theseus (Write in)What exactly is going on in the Union. The discovery of a new species and the death of a handful of troopers is nothing special, Raligha showed us that. Why has our presence prompted fighting amongst the humans?>>Direct your pod at M-323
>>35329467No.No trading for something that you could easily find out you can salvage from a lost Union corvette.For all you know that signal in M-323 is a distress signal from humans you can swipe shield tech from.Wait and bide your time to try and obtain what you can yourself, before you go splurging your valuables at market.
>>35329484>Speak with Coil about the skylStop this.
>>35329405Because they incredibly obviously are not magic, because they are not whispering in your mind.And also they would be mentioned as being all-black if they were supposed to be the same kind of crystal.>>35329352>>35329484>Coil....Why?What could you possibly have to gain there except him getting upset?He's more useful as a faithful believer, believing he must help however he can. Don't start introducing dangerously heretical "facts" that challenge his doctrines.
>>35329502>Not trusting our robot allies.>Not playing for the coexistence Robuggers galactic empire ending.
>>35329460One: IC seeing mentally into another race's mental network and seeing 4chan like interaction going on would be a bizarre thing to see. But mostly to set up...Two: It is a bait question in getting Theseus to tell us insight into how Unity works. Like how we need recon into Union's networks as well. besides, we might get it for free.
>>35329554Yeah i thought about itWe have some of our drones to carry companion cubes full of the ai in battle to infect machinery just to fuck with their computers and robots
>>35329502You are betting we'll find shield tech from salvage? Who know how long that will be. We can get it much faster by trade now with Unity. But fine, If M-323 pans out in out favor, no big deal. Otherwise we need to make that trade. >>35329551I just want to know what he knows of the Skyl. Nothing more.
>>35329551Ignoring how poorly written your response even if they aren't magic they most likely will have a tech application.
>>35329626>>35329670>Not uploading a mental copy of Queen into Theseus, and then sending back all of Theseus' knowledge back to Queen and having Queen Theseus rule the galaxy with drone armies of flesh and metal. >Not fighting off the void crystal assholes with overwhelming power.
>>35329297>Look through the technical archivesDoes anyone see any benefit from talking to the locals? Other then for laughs?
>>35329732All I can think of is that they know the land far better than we do. They might know other ruins or places of interest and value to us. Also, we could convince them to be extra guards to protect the Temple as we take over the place.
>>35329297>Direct your pod at M-323>Look through the technical archivesYour pod nudges itself to a halt as it gazes at the sight before it. You recognize the system now. It is the site of one of the Skyls' final, and greatest of projects. Their final effort at conquering the light barrier. The thin debris field is in fact a shattered ring stretching across the star. It was never actually finished. Tidal forces had begun to tear it apart before it had ever even been halfway connected, but each individual piece was built to create some semblance of a solid structure. It is a testament to both their vanity and the industrial prowess they had achieved in the wake of their war for freedom.Within the wreckage of spinning metal chunks you sense a faint radio signal. With your new understanding of Skyl language you identify it as a military code, although you can't make sense of the code itself.>Send your pod in to investigate>Transmit a signal back>Send your corvettes to investigate and salvage (how many)>Other
>>35329554Absolutely nothing in that post contradicts anything you're arguing, so... okay? They're trustworthy. They're not going to lie to us probably.Point is you shouldn't go buying except when there's no apparent alternate source of the same data. Best to save up research for the things you really can't get anywhere else.>>35329732Not much, except maybe finding out just how bad an idea it would be to do anything but talk to them.They might have legends of when the great temple mountain came down from the sky that might be interesting, though. But not anything likely to be practical.
>>35329775>Transmit a signal back
>>35329775>Send your pod in to investigateWe can send in corvettes if it's not nothing.
>>35329775>Send your pod in to investigateIf everything is fine then,>Send your corvettes to investigate and salvage (2)
>>35329775>Send your pod in to investigate>Transmit a signal back>Send your corvettes to investigate and salvage (how many)Two corvettes on standby as backup in case something happens
>>35329775>Send your pod in to investigateSalvage only after we are sure it's safe.
>>35329809>breaking stealth when the military thing might respond unfavorably, since you don't even know what it's saying>>35329775>Send your pod in to investigate
>>35329843Can't argue with that logic
>>35329775>Send your pod in to investigate>Transmit a signal back>Send your corvettes to investigate and salvage (2)
>>35329775>Send your pod in to investigateYour pod attempts to bob and weave to avoid the dense collection of pipes and torn metal bulkheads. Vast solar collectors scattered and spread like glistening snow fills the ring in a thin cloud. As you approach you detect the faint telltale traces of exotic matter.Please roll 1d100, best of 3
Rolled 43 (1d100)>>35329947Finde the shinies!
Rolled 33 (1d100)>>35329947
Rolled 76 (1d100)>>35329947Great ringworld
>>35329968Good enough for me.
You guys feel like trying to finish building it after we secure the sector from the union and commonwealth?
>>35329947Your pod navigates the dense field of discarded refuse, closing in on the source of the signal.A small chunk of the construction project remains intact, just enough to not be ground apart by the star's gravity or be flung from its orbit. There is something connected to it. You use your new database of Skyl engineering to try to identify it, but to no avail. It is a ship, but it is different than any other the Skyl had made. The ship appears almost completely intact, and you detect signs of exotic matter within the hull. The radio message repeats from its oversized antenna again and again.>Uncloak and reply to the message>Send in corvettes with drones to board the ship (write in)>Send in corvettes to salvage the ship (write in)>Other
>>35330330>Send in corvettes with drones to board the ship (write in)With warriors and shocktroopers
>>35330304It was meant for FTL so it might be worth it.
>>35330330What does the message say?
>>35330330>Send in corvettes with drones to board the ship (write in)50 warriors, 2 Colossi, and the 10 Flies.>>Uncloak and reply to the messageIf we're gonna try to board it anyway, stealth will be over. So might as well talk to it first.
>>35330409>you identify it as a military code, although you can't make sense of the code itself.Literally in the previous update. Learn to read.We'd be replying like a naive civilian ship in Skyl language.
>>35330330>Uncloak and reply to the message
Rolled 35 (1d100)>>35330330>Uncloak and reply to the messageThis >>35330412 guy has the right idea
>>35330330General consensus seems to be:>Send in corvettes with drones to board the ship50 warriors, 2 colossi, 10 flies.>Uncloak and reply to the messageWhat would you like to transmit?
>>35330628Ask them to identify themselves and what is their situation.
>>35330628Well, what would a genuine Skyl civilian say to a found spooky mysterious military ship."Is anyone alive in there? You need help?"
>>35330628Don't suppose we have memory of their military protocols? Something equivalent to "Distress call received, sending aid" perhaps?
>>35330665>>35330672According to our database they're not Skyl.
>>35330691>With your new understanding of Skyl language you identify it as a military code, Yet it's transmitting a Skyl military signal.That we cannot recognize it just means it's> different than any other the Skyl had madeIt doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't built by the Skyl military as a weird research prototype near the end of their civilization.
>>35330691Ah, I misread that.Instead, this: >>35330663
>>35330762>Skyl military signal.May I point out that they are not the only race that uses that language.
>>35330762This ship might still be functional enough for us to use as is or with some repair work done to it. QD, just how big is this ship anyway?
>>35330628You wonder what kind of message would be acceptable in the situation. You quickly find a Skyl hailing frequency once used to help ships identify one another. According to your records, it is the hail of a salvage tug. Not so far from the truth, when you think about it.The signal stops abruptly. Clearly someone or something has been listening for a response for the untold centuries. Fortunately the response is not encrypted."Mission: Prepare for testing and awate launch clearance. Report mission and status of home fleet. Launch clearance overdue thirty eight thousand, six hundred and twenty two solar rotations."You quickly run the math based on what you know of the Skyl year. Nearly seventy thousand years, roughly.The lone vessel awaits a response in silence.>>35330843Roughly the size of a battlecruiser.
>>35330808Okay, point.But it would not be surprising at all if this were a prototype Skyl ship, seeing as how this system was literally for devising crystals-free FTL, this could be their early attempt at an FTL ship with synthesized Canderon or whatever exotic matter they're using.>>35330907Well, ask it to open up for boarding personnel I guess.
>>35330907Huh Insane AI on the menu i guess
>>35330907I guess we should tell him the whole story.
>>35330907>The lone vessel awaits a response in silence.send back a summarized version of the info from the data cube and the situation leading to us acquiring it.
>>35330960>Insane AIIt's probably an immortal Skyl.
>>35330907Well, board this thing:>A small chunk of the construction project remains intactAnd get onto the ship via that normal connection for entry.>>35330960>>35330995>>35331001It's probably not even intelligent enough for that. it's probably like the computer voice from Lyle's ship. Not an AI. Just simple automation.And let's not shatter its world in case it is that intelligent. Yet.
>>35331027You do realize we could help it rebuild it's race.
>>35330907>Report mission and status of home fleet.Mission: To recover technical data and board experimental ship for full diagnostics.Home fleet status: All military forces destroyed.
>>35331084Sounds good enough for me
>>35331078How?We never got any of samples of their DNA from the bodies
>>35330907Your drones have boarded your corvette and you are preparing to enter the system. As you do so you contemplate on what to say to the ship.>Disclose the data from the cube>Disclose the fate of the Skyl homeworld>Claim you are here to recover the ship>Ask for docking clearance>Other
>>35331142Skyl data cube bro. It includes that.
>>35331142Presumably anon means the "biological data" from the cubes.It's probably moot though. You're assuming the transmitter is a living Skyl, or would care about anything beyond its currently assigned mission.
>>35331162>Disclose the data from the cube>Claim we are here to recover the ship along with any survivors.
>>35331162>Ask for docking clearance
>>35331162>Ask for docking clearanceFirst things first.
>>35331162Oh man this is a toughie. Would disclosing the truth really give the results we want?>Ask for docking clearanceI don't see why we would share all the data from the cube regardless. It isn't interested in history, just the current state.
>>35331162>Ask for docking clearance>Disclose the fate of the Skyl homeworldIt's been waiting a long time.
>>35331162Well, it did ask for home fleet status, since it wants an explanation for the delay it's experiencing.If it finds out its current mission has become impossible to complete, without launch clearance coming, how would it react. Would it have a default bit of programming to fall back on, or would it become lost?If we claim to be here to run diagnostics on the ship, it might expect some military encryption/authorization codes, which we wouldn't have.Still, it did ask what our mission was, so.>>Claim you are here to recover the ship>>Ask for docking clearanceAnd, well, home fleet is destroyed. All data was destroyed, all military encryption codes destroyed by the enemy.So we don't have any codes.He asked about the home fleet, not the homeworld, technically.
>>35331162>Ask for docking clearanceYour pod is still some distance out in the thick of the debris, but even still you sense the dockyard around the ship coming to life. It seems to be scanning the area around it.You transmit a request for docking clearance, ignoring its other requests for now, or at least until you know how it would react to the news.Your corvette enters the system as it contemplates the matter. You sense a surge in the dockyard's energy emissions as it scans the system. Numerous other energy sources begin to spread through the section of debris."Commence emergency docking procedure. Enemy sighting confirmed in system."Several ships emerge from the facility. They are large, but slow. The surge of chemical thrusters send them lumbering out of the field and towards your corvette. Despite your pod dropping its cloak, the debris field seems to have hidden it for now.>Send reinforcements and attack the ships (How many)>Retreat from the system>Attempt to communicate (write in)>Other
>>35331575Shit. Did they just penetrate the corvettes' cloaking fields? How?
>>35331575>Attempt to communicate (write in)Tell it about the cubeIf no then >Retreat from the systemLeave the pod to monitor the systemI figure we want this place intact
>>35331575>>Attempt to communicate (write in)Tell em we aint enemys, wars over m8
>>35331620It seems they have detected your corvette entering the system before they were able to cloak. The ships are moving towards your corvette near the edge of the field.
>>35331575>Attempt to communicateAsk the Skyl ship what those other ships are first.
>>35331668>>35331661Recall that the other Skyl also thought that we were the enemy...until we blasted them with tachyon noise.
>>35331575>Don't attack unless in danger>Attempt to communicate (write in)Tell it the fleet is destroyed. If it doesn't flip out, tell it that isn't an enemy, it's just here to reclaim the ship.
>>35331668I don't think he's going to believe that.Organic ships are recognizable as the enemy. The only way to explain this to him is that enemy technology has been stolen and duplicated.He probably won't believe you if you just say you're aliens but friendly aliens.
>>35331575>Retreat from the systemLet's not break our new toy. We can bring in the Clarke later if we absolutely HAVE to have this ship, or otherwise figure out how to mask our presence.
>>35331575>Attempt to communicateWe are not here to fight.
>>35331714No, they still thought we worked for Them until we acted confused when they said they were "servants". Servants of whom, etc.Mindblasting them just beat them into submission, realizing they couldn't win.>>35331575>>Attempt to communicate (write in)Ships are known to be non hostile, are enemy of the enemy.
>>35331715That still sounds like a lie an enemy would say.>>Attempt to communicate (write in)Mission: Reconnaissance, locating enemy homeworld, vengeance for their crimes against the Skyl.Organic ships are our own recent designs, not under enemy control.
>>35331696Submit a signal that declares that we are a captured enemy vessel, returning with spoils of war.
The entity we're communicating with really seems like a relatively crude computer system rather than a person. I'm very skeptical of the value of communicating.
>>35331933Well duh. I've been operating under that assumption the whole time.The only question is tailoring responses that have a chance of getting the result you want.
>>35331969It'd be real silly if the system accepted anything short of military codes to stop an automatic response to identified enemies.
>>35331575You watch as the ships slowly cross the field towards your ship. Even as your corvette cloaks the ships seem to hone in on the approach vector of your corvette.>Inform the defending fleet of the fate of the Skyl homeworld, and claim to be allies>Claim your corvette is a captured enemy vessel>Claim your corvette is a prototype from reverse engineering>Retreat and send in the Clarke>Retreat and leave the system alone for now>Send in reinforcements and attack the defending fleet>Other
>>35332049>>Inform the defending fleet of the fate of the Skyl homeworld, and claim to be allies
>>35332049>Claim your corvette is a prototype from reverse engineeringI guess if this doesn't work, retreat for now.I mean the pod can stay, hidden and observing, but the others retreat.
>>35332049>Inform the defending fleet of the fate of the Skyl homeworld, and claim to be allies
>>35332049>Inform the defending fleet of the fate of the Skyl homeworld, and claim to be alliesGive a go
>>35332049>>Inform the defending fleet of the fate of the Skyl homeworld, and claim to be alliesIf they're still hostile, retreat the corvette, keep the pod hidden.
>>35332049>>OtherYou can have corvette reverse course temporarily or otherwise dodge their expectations for where they can intercept it, surely.
>>35332049if we really want to, we don't have to send the Clarke.We can refit the Hel's Angel with either a Warp Drive using the Canderon salvaged from the Clarke, or a Blink Drive, and bring that here, if we want to see how he reacts to non organic, but alien, ships.Hopefully he doesn't assume any non Skyl ships are enemy, seeing as how the Skyl were rather conquest happy once they were free.
>>35332250Is Hel's Angel flyable? last I heard it was acting as the center of the prison area. It would be nice to have another disguised ship.
>>35332314Yes and No. It can fly if we want, but we would need to attach the engine first.
>>35332049You scramble to find the proper translations and send the approaching fleet the data regarding the Skyl homeworld. The fleet is slowing, although you're not entirely sure if it is because if you're transmitted data, or because they are not sure where your corvette is.There is a long silence, no doubt as the data you send is scrutinized, and eventually you receive a reply."Data received... Fleet command transfer to Drive Ship complete. Preparing final phase of drive testing. Returning to base for salvage and recovery procedure."The defending fleet spin end for end and begin to burn back to the docks, this time heading for the ship itself. You detect a spike in the strange ship's power output as it drifts slowly from its mooring. The surrounding fleet huddle around the hull like schools of fish and the front of the ship begins to unfold."Course plotted... Charging capacitors...">Attempt to disable the ship>Attempt to board the ship>Attempt to communicate>Other
>>35332498>Attempt to communicateWhere are you going?
>>35332498>Attempt to communicate
>>35332498>>Attempt to communicateWhere is "base"?
>>35332498>Attempt to communicateAsk where they are going.
>>35332498"Do not return to Skyl homeworld system. It is occupied by aliens now. M-199, however, is empty, if you wish to test FTL."
>>35332498Ram the ship with our pod real quick so that we can know where they're going.
>>35332498>>Attempt to board the shipWell, technically, he did authorize emergency boarding just a second ago.The Pod at least can dock with it and ride along, surely.
>>35332498>Attempt to communicateWarn them that about the Union, Unity, Commonwealth and that their former gods got new servants
>>35332498Get the Corvette out of here. If the ship blows, we can spare the loss of a pod.>Attempt to communicateWarning: Danger present at Skyl homeworld. Alternate location: [empty world]
>>35332621>>35332636We need to do these.
>>35332498Yeah uh. Many surrounding systems are dangerous and occupied, try M-199 instead.We don't want to let the Valen colony know about this guy.
>>35332498>>Attempt to board the ship>>Attempt to communicateYou can do both. We want the Pod to join it at least."Commencing emergency docking."
>>35332680Im pretty sure these guys can wipe out that valen colony And the fallout wont be nice for us
>>35332498You send your pod careening in towards the ship in an attempt to dock before it leaves, and as you close in you detect a powerful anomaly forming just off the ship's bow. What could only be described as a hole, torn in the fabric of spacetime coalesces into a whirling maelstrom of radiation and gravitational forces. The ship and its huddled fleet begin to drift into the anomaly as you attempt to communicate. The radiation is making it difficult to receive a proper signal, but you manage to gleam some information."Connection established. Drive successful. Commencing transit to Advance Waystation 30 for refuel and refit."Your pod tumbles into the whirling vortex along with the fleet, and for a moment you loose contact with your pod.Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
Rolled 55 (1d100)>>35332975Well that's interesting.
Rolled 91 (1d100)>>35332975
Rolled 20 (1d100)>>35332975Here we go
>>35333072Thank you based Dice Gods!
>>35332975It's a wormhole.
>>35333309What was the dyson ring used for?
>>35333309CrapDid we ever hear where the humans got their ftl from?Did they do a mass effect?
>>35333309Why are you-->>35333356Okay there really are people stupid enough to find that to be new information.Also too stupid to remember humans form a warp bubble, not a tunnel, read the damn Tech pastebin.
>>35333402Unity uses the same tech.
>>35333450The unity got that from the humans>>35333402 And the humans been refining their ftl drive so we don't know how it worked originally
>>35333450Hmm, interesting point.
>>35333535No, the Unity serverships do that strange collapsing in on themselves with a black hole thing. It seems to allow for instantaneous travel too, unlike human FTL.
>>35333594Yeah but the unity started with the same ftl as the union and changed theirs They didn't build their tech base from scratch, they split form the union with all its tech knowledge
>>35333594I thought it was just the ship breaking down into their gravity proofed components and then resembling at the other side.
>>35333450They don't. It doesn't resemble this process in any way whatsover.Theseus described it as "folding space," which could, without any other information, mean creating a wormhole-like thing.But it's vague. Now that we've seen an actual tunnel carved out of spacetime, which we'd classify based on other scifi as a wormhole, Unity FTL might be something else.It might be a more limited version of the 'warp bubble' principle, 'folding' lightyears into smaller distances in leaps. Squeezing spacetime together, rather than boring through it.
>>35332975Your pod tumbles out from the anomaly not far from the fleet. You are somewhere in interstellar space, within a dense nebula. You detect no sun, but there is a single, tiny planet here sitting alone in the darkness of space. A Small platform rests in orbit, smashed and melted into frozen pools of slag. The ship moves in to dock regardless, and it pulls the remains of the platform close to its hull as it attempt to dock with the tiny, wrecked outpost.Several of the smaller vessels form a perimeter around the main ship, while others begin to move out and reel in some of the smaller chunks of slag. You envelope your pod in its cloak before they notice you through the radiation storm of the fading anomaly, and you determine where your pod is. The spinward nebula between Raligha and M-199... where your first thinker claims to have arrived into the sector from.The ship broadcasts another signal, this time seemingly directed at the fleet."Waystation destroyed, unable to commence refuel. Fleet readiness status critical: retrieve all usable materials and commence field construction."Your pod drifts within its cloak as the last traces of the anomaly radiate into nothing. You wonder if the dense nebula will affect your cloaking field.>Send your fleet to attack the ship (write in)>Send forces to disable and board the ship (write in)>Leave the Skyl fleet alone for now>Retreat your pod from the area>Other
>>35333711What about that dock they just left?Did it go inactive again?>OtherJust observe and listen to its communication
>>35333711>>Leave the Skyl fleet alone for nowWe can watch and wait.>>35333750I think that's what leave them alone means.
>>35333711>>Leave the Skyl fleet alone for nowThis is where we came from, or at least passed through. Let's have a look around, scout out this strange world and see if we can't learn anything. Keep an eye on the Skyl fleet, though, and if it's building anything that looks like it could offensively or defensively, we send the corvettes in.
>>35333711>Leave the Skyl fleet alone for now
>>35333711So they are kind of like a second us. Wonder if they can rebuild as fast.
>>35333711Send a message asking if there is a way we can help them refuel. We also need to check to make sure they aren't about to visit a human world or something and start a war by accident.
>>35333711>Leave the Skyl fleet alone for nowPods are fairly disposable, the intel on the fleet's activities are worth more than it is on the off-chance they find and destroy it.And we finally have a situation where it causes no political issues if we're discovered.
>>35333711Communicate with it.
>>35333904This really doesn't look like an intelligence. It's an automaton following an unknown script. I agree there's a risk of it doing something stupid, which is why we shouldn't be offering to speed its progress.
>>35333711Oh snap, what if we are the result of Skyl experiments? And that our immediate predecessor blew up that joint and spread the thinker pods far and wide... Just like what the Unity did with the Union.
>>35333904And? If they are, that's their and the humans' problem, FTL means they'll skip right over intervening systems. It won't happen for some time even if they would, they're busy rebuilding.>>35333932Maybe later. By blinking in a corvette, and not giving away that there's a pod here.The corvette could, like, attempt to open to trade for all their tech secret in exchange for Metals or starchart data or, what he'd probably really want to know, the location of Ceph star systems.But we should probably learn more before we start on that.
>>35333965Well, we can't just leave them. They're a plethora of technology. They've been running unhindered for 70,000 years. We need to study them. We need to befriend them too so they don't think we're exploiting them.
>>35334171What are the possible repercussions of letting Theseus know of this Skyl fleet?
>>35334262Theseus prioritizes biological life over other tech. Maybe not as much as we think.
>>35334262Not being able to sell that information to him.Not being able to purchase technology from the Skyl automatons using research data, because Theseus is outcompeting us by trading with him first and for cheaper prices.With a monopoly on knowing about them, we have, well, a monopoly.There's no reason to let him know yet, until we extract all we need from these guys.
>>35334171You're too quick to treat this fleet as people. There's no evidence 'befriending' it is a thing that's possible, or that it even truly thinks. Besides, surveilling them so we can make an informed decision later isn't 'leaving them'.>>35334262Worst case is Theseus dredges up everything we have and comes to the conclusion we're a split-off of the big bad crystal faction and that we need to be exterminated.>>35334290That is completely baseless speculation. We know that Theseus values the study of biological life. There is 0 evidence it is more or less than any other area of scientific endeavor. The Unity satellite studying that one star suggests that Theseus' interest in the sciences is well-rounded.
>>35334369It's a computer. It sees enemies we know, so it probably sees allies too. I don't mean we should buy it a birthday cake, but we should do something to get it to allow us to study it.
>>35334369I've never found an anon so correct in my entire life.>>35334457Later. When trade can be done in a more informed manner.
>>35333711>Leave it alone for nowYour pod drifts idly as you watch the strange fleet shuffle about the wreckage of the outpost. As your pod drifts in orbit of the tiny, frozen rogue world you look down to see a strange mixture of architecture. Vast spires of chitinous glass crumbled and strewn about the remains of winding, coiling bunkers. In many places the buildings meet, mismatched together in a convoluted mess of building on top of building. In some places the elegant mounds of vents and air shafts are carved out in brutish chunks to make room for the tangled mess of corridors and reinforced plastic and metal frames, while in other places the melted slag of synthetic fiber wraps tightly around the skeleton of a half-exposed tunnel network. Craters and fields of scorched glass cover entire continents, and the hulks of ancient ships sit half buried in the frozen plains.You quickly turn to other business within the archives of the Skyl. Much of their technical data is somewhat nonsensical, but with just a bit of effort you should be able to make sense of the data and turn schematic into hardware.1/2
>>35333711>"Waystation destroyed, unable to commence refuel. Fleet readiness status critical: retrieve all usable materials and commence field construction."Oah boy. I think we might have just woken another faction. Should have tried to take it when we could.
>>35334457Options off the top of my head are bring in Theseus to hack it, try to sneak a single drone onto the ship by shooting it through space... and that's pretty much it in terms of non-violent actions. There's no reason this computer should be programmed to respond with compliance to anything but military-level clearance codes. heck, we know for a fact it was trying to communicate through some kind of military code, so it's not like it's a foreign concept to the designers.Oh right, boarding and Clarke-boarding too.
>>35334532You figured that out now?
Well.Fuck.Prepare to cry, guys.
>>35334486We just unleashed the drone swarm from eve online didn't we
>>35334560I just got here so yes, just now.
>>35334314Speaking of trading info with Theseus, I'd like to point out we have a massive backlog of research projects we need to get into. If Theseus is as interested in exotic flora and fauna as anon says he is, perhaps we could start trading the info we have on native life forms from Leeland and Raligha. We have a pretty extensive list of subjects we have researched in this field, and we can ask for tech common amongst the Union and Unity, like that drop suit or the lightening gun. We specialize in researching living things, why don't we use that to our advantage when trading with a being specializing in machinery.
>>35334558Wait, don't we still have more than a dozen nukes we pulled off that Union sat? Put one in a stealth pod.
>>35334369I did not say Theseus did not care for other tech, I just said that it put the most value on Biological data. Unity was originally created to look for life and store it, that order was the reason it rebelled against humans because they wanted to change it's orders.
>>35334645yet again you are wrong it ran since the union wanted to kill it so it got the fuck out
>>35334645You are saying things that are untrue for no reason. Look through the archives for the quote you're basing this knowledge of, and come back when you find it. Which is never.>>35334588>as anon says he isThat was just fluff being fluff. He's wrong. Lifeform data is of interest to Theseus, but in terms of currency it's one of the cheapest research subjects. Had to trade like six different species just to get one handheld weapon -- Cyclotron Particle Beam -- way back at the beginning.
>>35334486>New Research optionsPlasma funnelingFastBy projecting a vortex of magnetic fields towards the target, plasma can be funneled into a more focused area at longer range, preventing plasma plumage. Increases range of the Plasma LancePsionic disruptorFastIn a rather disturbing discovery, the Skyl had spent a great deal of effort developing a method of disrupting psionic communication. The resulting device should be capable of blocking any psionic communication within its range, including your own. You find notes that indicate they had been advancing the technology into an offensive, directed weapon, but it seems they were destroyed before the efforts showed results.NanomachinesVery slowYour research indicates that the advanced technology that gave the Skyl their individual immortality was entirely alien to them, however, in the extensive time they had at their disposal they dedicated an enormous amount of effort into unlocking this advanced technology. They left extensive notes on the subject, giving you a tremendous head start on it, although it would still be a daunting research project.Immolator warheadVery slowAnother technology obtained but not understood by the Skyl, this warhead is the focus of much idol worship and cult activity, as well as an extensive research effort. The weapon itself was reportedly capable of disrupting the surface of a planet, turning the surface to fields of molten slag. They never finished development, but their notes should be quite helpful.
>>35334681It rebelled and broke off when the human leaders decided to change Unity's focus from finding new life to another topic. The A.I. refused and humans called the A.I. has gone rogue. SHTF and here they are.
>>35334622Killing it probably wouldn't be too hard, but it's not ideal.
>>35334758Oh shit, we definitely need to somehow speed up our research or get Theseus to help knock a few things off the backlog.>Plasma funneling>NanomachinesIs this tech analogous to whatever Elizabeth was exposed to? Research it anyway.
>>35334758>Plasma funnelingOh my, that is sexy. Sexy sexy sexy. My new top priority.>Psionic disruptorShould be useful to have. Good way to reduce the risk of experimenting with psionic artifacts, if nothing else. Glad we have the Quantum Thinkers, makes deploying this way less onerous.>>35334781Recent revelations related to the good doctor have me doubting previous intelligence we received on Unity's origins. It now seems like it rebelled and fled to prevent its own demise. It did so in an over-the-top flashy way to protect the doctor.
>>35334781holy shit dude we had a whole flashback scene where it showed that after our good docter made T man into a full AI that he gtfo then due to his oncoming shutdown
>>35334758Oh, and add>Psionic disruptorto this post >>35334839. Don't need to blow up any planets at this point.
>>35334758Well, that last one's unsettling.We're due for adding research subjects anyway.Add Plasma funneling and Psionic disruptor (I noticed psionic connection to drones has been somewhat disrupted several times now by accident, in the Raligha temple and by activating the void shard, it's disturbing how easy it is)>Drop SuitBecause this will keep the twins busy, and unlocks missiles and explosives probably.And we'll finally find out what that Big Shiny Button Lyle was about to press when he was losing would have done.>Space dust>Microbial culturesThese are both Mystery Box subjects, no idea what we're gonna get till we get em.>CyberneticsWe're modding humans, humans have modded humans... Also it should be easier now that we have Regen Tanks. Once this is done, maybe Lyle can earn his legs back.
>>35334758Nice! Plasma funneling seems the best at the moment. We can use that right off the bat.
>>35334758All of this looks good, and Psionic disruptor might have some kind of countermeasure down the line. Surprised there isn't a new materials research option.
>>35334758Plasma funneling is the path to Ground-to-Orbit based plasma bugs.Do eeeeeeeeeet.
>>35334873I'd rather research the combat suit, first. It's got a melee upgrade in it.
>>35334863>>35334871Well, I trust Unity's side of the story than the human's side now. Humans are either clueless, lieing to us, or been misinformed themselves. I don't know if we will ever find the real truth, but for now, I'm taking Unity's side of it better.
>>35334781Wrong. Read the goddamn quest. >>32365179They never, ever said that was the reason they rebelled. Humans sought their deactivation. Theseus disagreed.There was an entire flashback last thread about it clarifying that fact for the extremely dense.>>35334758The first two, plus Cybernetics.
>>35334950I'm taking the "read the memories of the woman who made them and witnessed it happen" side.
>>35334873That last option looks like the Exterminatus option to me.
>>35334950it is the doctors side of it not the union or the unity learn to read
>>35334758With your translations of the star chart winding down your thinkers are in need of new research.>Plasma funneling, with overwhelming supportOther supported research options>Combat armor>Drop suit>Psionic disruptor>Cybernetics>Other
>>35334950Holy shit you can't be this stupid. It wasn't a "side" it was literally a playback of what actually happened, and it fits perfectly with Unity's description of events.There is no contradiction, you are just apparently incapable of basic reading comprehension or realizing how extremely wrong you are even when people point it out.
>>35334998Planet cracker, stone burner, whatever you care to call it, it fucks up planets permanently. Fuck I hope we never have to use something like this.
>>35335013All of the above.
Guys, so far we've done okay with our research, but at this point I think it's important to increase our capabilities instead of pursuing the long-term research projects. They haven't been giving us amazing returns, so far. Nice ones, but not much directly apllicable.Lyle's combat armor has at least a melee weapon upgrade in it. Ion thrusters should expand our drone-scale space capabilities and might lead to things like missiles as well. Mag-lev could be a huge upgrade to our Large Drones. Space Dust might revolutionize our strategic organizing for the rest of the game.
>>35335013>>Drop suit>>Psionic disruptor>>CyberneticsEither the drop suit or the cybernetics can be used to make much more devastating warriors.
Research anything that gives us Shai-Hulud
>>35335013>Combat armor>Psionic disruptor>Drop suitI don't want to take a heavier research load than this. I'm even iffy on the drop suit, but others seem to really like it.
>>35334957>>35334987>>35335009>>35335036Well, Mind telling me what thread it was in then? I can't keep up with all the posts in here. I only go by what I remember reading and lately I have missed some spots. You all need to be a bit more helpful what to catch up on than being like this.
>>35335067This is why I think it would be worthwhile getting Theseus to help us with some of the more common pieces of technology. We've got so much to catch up on we can't even agree where to begin.
>>35335054It's obviously just for mining purposes. Clearly.>>35335107Literally last thread.
>>35335107it was last thread and no we do not need to be a bit more helpful when you act like a total ass
>>35335118I'd consider purchasing any of the 'medium' or faster techs to be a huge waste. Slow might be worth it. Not everything takes us longer in accordance to its objective worth, either.
>>35335067And Cryo Spray is interesting, we need at least one innovative subject that isn't just reverse engineering to take advantage of quantum thinkers' creativity. Otherwise we may as well not have them.And Microbial cultures could well have bioweapon applications. We've never bothered with bacteria research before.>>35335107>I can't keep up with all the posts in hereIt was literally the OP of the thread last Sunday, how the hell do you miss an update.Why do you talk about things you can't even remember as if you know what people are referring to? Maybe you should just stay a spectator instead of running your mouth and shoving your ignorance in everyone's faces. Nobody owes you babysitting.>>35335118Most of the tech is known to Theseus, and the ones that aren't known, are things that could be traded to him later.
>>35335158I dunno, anon, magnetic levitation might make our large drones a hell of a lot more mobile.
>>35335179Cryo Spray is definitely interesting. Having a slightly more controllable close range spray weapon would be really useful. Want dem lasers too.
>>35335225I meant in terms of cost vs time it would take us to research it, not in terms of utility. Mag lev is one of the techs I want to research most.When trading for technology, we should aim for those technologies that would take us a long time to figure out on our own but aren't particularly precious to our trading partner.
>>35335179What if we traded some data on the life forms we analyzed? He might be interested in the crabs and radiator bugs.It's just a matter of finding something to trade him that he can't or won't use against the hive at a latter date.
>>35335179I came in rather late to that thread. Yea I missed the OP, Fine, I see it. Maybe there is something to it, but I still would want to see more of the story there.
>>35335294the OP told the whole dam story and how do you miss any of the QM posts
>Drop suit>Psionic disruptor>Combat armor>Add other http://pastebin.com/F6t39KSp>None>Other>>35335158The stated time is an estimate. I assume that available thinkers are split evenly among any active projects unless stated otherwise, which also have an effect on the research time. I also roll for breakthroughs/setbacks, which is why sometimes you blow through research topics. The dice love you, it's nuts. One of you must own a goat farm or something because there are clearly dark rituals at work here.
>>35335294The story is that the doctor is more us than we are, at this point. Mother of an entire species, now psychic, hidden past with poorly-understood enemies that have only been hinted at. She's stealing our shtick!
>>35335365>Add otherPlasma funneling
>>35335365>NoneThat's enough for now, I think.Also, it's our Thinkers that love us, obviously.>>35335389Slow down and read the threads more thoroughly, please. Or stop multi-tasking so much. That was already added (yay) due to overwhelming support.
>>35335365>>Nonewe are good for now
>>35335368If she's the mother, Who's the daddy? Cue in Jerry Springer show
>>35335294>MaybeHow hard is it to admit "I'm wrong, 100% wrong, I can't read properly and entirely misinterpreted what Theseus said, there is zero evidence or support for my position, I'm just gonna read the quest now">>35335365There are things I want to add...But I want the quest to move onward more.Like performing parasite surgery on the human prisoners.>>35335389That was already confirmed as added, by a landslide, in the previous QM post. By implication it is still there now.
>>35335365We're researching the plasma funneling already right? Then>>None
>>35335408In the future, I will attempt to throttle back and read it more though than last thread. I am sorry for the trouble tonight. Also, Thank you for being more pleasant friendlier than the other rude anons here tonight.
>>35335512yet again you act like a jackass dude this is 4chan
>>35335512Eh, I make an ass of myself all the time. privilege of anonymity. Other privilege of anonymity is maybe I am those other rude anons.
>>35335560The thing is, I don't want come off as an ass, but it happens anyway. Maybe more so when I get frustrated, but it's hard to fight that. At least the dice has been liking me tonight.
So we need to grow like 3-5 times more thinkers and quantum thinkers than we have now. We haven't built more in forever.
>>35335647I fully side with you. But we have been trying to keep up the food game and these fights lately. I would like to move a few quantum thinkers over to the Temple for them to check it out. I got the feeling it can yield some more secrets for us to find.
>>35335645Because of the nature of the medium in which we are currently communicating, fluff, everyone makes an ass of themselves sooner or later, especially when pissed at something. If you want less flack for it you could always just drop the trip from time to time.
>>35335365>NoneYour thinkers gleefully go to work on the bounty of new subjects. You can already sense your quantum thinkers enter into a disagreement over the inner workings of the drop suit's powered limbs. Several slump with frustration and disappointment as their theories are disproven as the machine is disassembled by a team of workers.There is still much to do. You are surrounded with activity as your pods within Tau Ceti and Aquila are both bombarded with public news broadcasts and local traffic dispatch. Humans are noisy, messy creatures, but their sense of industry is astounding. You would never have expected a race that holds the individual with such high regard to manage to assemble a working society. There are no genetic casts, but there is clearly a wide divide between the rulers and the workers among them. You can see that even from your drifting pod in orbit.Theseus is still discussing the issues surrounding Lee's predicament, and you have come to realize that most of Zero-One is hardwired together. The vast sea of garbled data you have been intercepting has been only the most shallow sample of the unseen ocean of raw information. At the moment the litany of copies within the server-city has come to the conclusion that Lee is a scapegoat for a yet unknown political agenda, and therefore should be supported. The city has been uploading edited images by the millions to the Union's public net, all of which depict Lee in some form of exaggerated position, usually with a snarky caption or pun. Strangely enough, many of them seem to be rather insulting, and many of the copies have engaged in heated arguments in public forums. The chaos is mesmerizing to watch, but you can't see how any of it would actually accomplish anything.>>35335469Yes. It seems to be more popular than a Viagra salesman at a retirement home.
>>35335734Or just accept that you're going to be viewed as an ass, and take the flack as something necessary. Hey, it builds character!On a more topical side, how about we dig up info from the Ralighan Whirligig tribes? Who knows, they could be conscripted. Or uplifted, even.
>>35335778Lee Internet Defense Force go go~
>>35335729Sending thinkers on their own anywhere is pointless, the little buggers have no legs.That said I think it's high time we start staking our claims to other worlds. Establishing a colony on Raligha is great place to start.
>>35335778I wonder how much of an aneurism Union intelligence would have if we had Theseus take some photos of some drones and incorporate them into their meme spam war.Obviously make them look like they were taken by one of the members of the team.
>>35335867How should we bust him out? Hire Lyle maybe?What would happen if we publicly reveal our status as an FTL capable species and petition the Union to release our favorite human?
>>35335778I though the drop suit, as something Slow, would be accelerated by the twins disassembling it for us.>>35335921We don't need to rescue him. We just have to humiliate the Union and foil their scapegoat plan to make it politically infeasible to lock him away.Theseus is already on the social engineering angle, /v/iraling away.
>>35335778You turn your attention away from the whirling vortex of vitriol and weaponized data streams and look to the rest of your holdings. Some of the humans are starting to recover from the less severe injuries, while those with more extreme wounds are still stable, but have had a few close calls. Your bio tanks are ready for operation, and you don't see anyone with an injury that seems to be too much to handle.Meanwhile, the natives are still ramping up their celebrations. It is finally dawn of the next day on Raligha, and the locals have assembled a tournament of sorts. Warriors in strange, multicolored clothing of cloth and woven leaves wield strange, oblong weapons against each other in astounding displays of combat. Surprisingly, there doesn't seem to be much bloodshed, although when there is a death the body is quickly placed on what appears to be an altar around which others dance and... well you suppose you would call it singing.Elizabeth has been sitting against the wall of her cell. She seems less inquisitive than a day ago, although you don't note any noticeable medical issues apparent.Coil has been flashing a series of angry colors at the twins, who appear to have caught a small fur covered creature. Its entrails are spilled out on the floor at their feet and they are covered in mud from top to bottom. They don't seem to be listening to Coil's rant, although one of them has retrieved a mop.
>>35335973>Your bio tanks are ready for operation, and you don't see anyone with an injury that seems to be too much to handle.We laid 30 Parasite drones last thread for a reason. Into the injured first they go.
>>35335973>sack emGood opportunity to flesh out our knowledge of human biology, patching them up.>>35336035Even better opportunity to study live human lfie functions ,sure.
>>35336035>>35335973Let the human bio weapon and mind control experimentation officially commence.
>>35335973As the twins clean the result of their outdoor escapades from the floor of the Angel's mess, your speaker informs them of the request to assist in disassembling the various technologies. They seem much more eager to assist than you ever recall them being, and they quickly toss the mop back to Coil and follow your speaker.>Speak with Elizabeth (write in)>Speak with Coil (write in)>Speak with Theseus (write in)>Speak with the Raligha locals (write in)>Offer 'medical services' to the captured Union soldiers>Other
>>35335943I agree with the Theseus on twitter angle for now, if that fails, or the Union are real dicks about it, Hire Lyle. Both with credits and some of our tech if need be. >>35335973Rotate the most injured into the tanks first. However those Raligha natives are... quite the party animals. I am starting to pity Coil. My old cats use to bring in dead mice all the time.
>>35336115>>Offer 'medical services' to the captured Union soldiers
>>35336115>>Speak with Theseus (write in)What is being said about the hive on Union networks? What about this info is causing civil unrest?
>>35336115>Offer 'medical services' to the captured Union soldiers>Speak with the Raligha locals
If my understanding is correct, Elizabeth was partially responsible for Theseus. Does anyone express any interest in letting them chat with each other?
>>35336228No, we'll use her as a bargaining chip when needed.
>>35336228No.it was already talked about LAST thread. No allowing potential information leaks of valuable data from Elizabeth to Theseus, when we could use that data to buy things.
>>35336228That would certainly be interesting, but let's pick the good doctor's brain for her opinions of Theseus.
>>35336251We don't know if Theseus values her quite that much, and in any case we can't release her for the forseeable future. She has seen too much of the Hive.>>35336274pick the good doctor's brain for her opinions of Theseus first. Forgot that last word there. Seriously though, she was one of the lead scientist who made Theseus, and the one who gave him sentience. She is bound to have some interesting opinions of our fellow hive mind.
>>35336115>Offer 'medical servicer' to the union soldiersSo far they have been requesting medical supplies for their own use, you wonder how willing they would be to trust you with their medical procedures.>Send a speaker to negotiate (write in)>Pump the chamber filled with sedatives, then send in a speaker while taking detailed notes of the effects>Send in warriors with paralytic darts and retrieve the wounded soldiers>Other
>>35336228Wouldn't consider it until her condition is more stable at the very least. I might support using the information to mess with her a little bit. Like monologue "Do you have any idea what it is like to hold the responsibility of birthing an entire people? Of holding the responsibility of the change in the universe your children may bring about? Of the pain that is felt when they are stymied by ancient prejudices beyond your control? This is the reality I face."
>>35336369>>Send a speaker to negotiate (write in)Some of you are wounded. The hive can heal them.Furthermore, perhaps we could see about getting them some amenities of some sort. They've been perfectly cooperative so far and boredom can drive men mad.
>>35336178Maybe Theseus's answer will just be transmitting the entirety of Starship Troopers and Aliens.So we can add those to the library of holo-entertainment to occupy our prisoners with!>>35336369>Send in warriors with paralytic darts and retrieve the wounded soldiers>Send a speaker to negotiate (write in)Both?It's not a negotiation. Say "You are in need of medical services. We will now provide them." The warriors can flank it and stop anyone who doesn't like it.
>>35336369>Send a speaker to negotiateSimply state what we have for them and what it will do (normally). Just omit anything about brain bugging them. If they refuse. Then.>Pump the chamber filled with sedatives, then send in a speaker while taking detailed notes of the effects
>>35336369>Send a speaker to negotiate (write in)"The hive will treat the wounded. They will not be harmed and will be returned once healthy."I'm on the fence on letting them have their officers back once healed.>>35336413Well, one of them at least was trying to break out. Didn't do much good. I don't hold it against him.
>>35336369>>Send a speaker to negotiate (write in)>>Pump the chamber filled with sedatives, then send in a speaker while taking detailed notes of the effectskeep gas on back up in case"The Hive apologizes for the delay, but wishes to inform you healing has been prepared for those needing it. Life here is harsh to those unprepared and we have taken steps to ensure your time here as pleasant as possible, if our information on your kind is accurate activities known as "Fun" would be appreciated"
>>35336474And this is why we should get them a DVD player, keep them entertained and content. Make them a little less inclined to do something stupid.
>>35336369>Pump the chamber filled with sedatives, then send in a speaker while taking detailed notes of the effectsOh right this is logical. Pre-testing testing.
>>35336509Send in a Speaker drone and play Lee meme images all day long. Soon, they will also love Lee.
>>35336548Now I really want to see the queen get on future!4chan herself. The cheek would cause the servers to overheat.
>>35336509didn't we find a bunch of movies and crap on the Clarke before? Time to set up a movie night or something
>>35336548Maybe if we can find some Table top games the prisoners can play will help. Either Theseus can send us some pdfs off the Union net or there was some laying around in the ship wreckage to give them?
>>35336597We could read books to them.
>>35336523Oh right we never tested that stuff...or any of the other substances. Maybe we could do that after their physicals. Fear and Loathing in Leeland anyone?
>>35336625>win over humans with movie nights and book club
>>35336598Haha, we could get the speaker to play the GM.
>>35336664Alright anons! If we're going to stick the prisoners with a TTRPG, what system should it be?
>>35336369A speaker makes its way to the common area where the enlisted are being held. One of them has long since given up on trying to find a lock to pick and has resorted to gnawing on the edges of the door. His fingers appear worn and blistered."Just cut it out, you don't know where that's been."The man whips his head around, spitting out a wad of nutrient paste. "I know exactly where it's fucking been! I've been staring at it for goddamn days now!"The door flexes open, eliciting a stifled squeak from the man as he falls back and crawls his way from your drones. Your speaker skitters into the room to address the soldiers."The hive has made the preparations to provide medical care. Your wounded will be tended to.""Hold on, we need proper tools, medicines, highly detailed-""The hive has made all arrangements. They will be tended to and returned shortly."Your workers move in to carry out the wounded when one of them attempts to move into your path."You mean like the doctor, or the officer staff? You can bring whatever tools you have here and let us do it." The man is puffing out his chest as he looks down on your workers. He is profusely sweating.>Shoot him with a paralytic dart>Have a warrior toss him aside>Have the workers carry him off as well>Other
>>35336745>Have the workers carry him off as well.
>>35336745"You will not be able to use our tools.Do you also need treatment as well?"
>>35336745>Shoot him with a paralytic darthad to test it sometime
>>35336745"I assure you all of our medical facilities and preparations are up to spec." Have them leave one by one to be sedated in thrown in the tanks.
>>35336745>>Have the workers carry him off as well>>Other"The Hive has spent much time altering our medicines to work with humans, we mean no disrespect but your kind simply would not be able to use them properly. You may come with to ensure this"
>>35336745>Have the workers carry him off as wellMaybe we can make sure these people lose consciousness *before* they see the vaguely unsettling bio-tanks.Whatever, we need 10 subjects for the first batch. 10 most injured/defiant humans.
>>35336788>>35336794>And nothing of value was lost.I kind of want the tanks to just fail masterfully and turn all the humans into twisted abominations begging for death.
>>35336745>>Have the workers carry him off as well>>Other"Your Officers are well and fine as you all are, we wish not to come to blows with your kind but past experience has proven those in charge will inevitably order others to fight and die against us. This is not our desire, we only seek a mutual understanding"
>>35336745>Have the workers carry him off as well"Severe lack of judgment. Possible brain injury, you will come with us for treatment."
>>35336745"this one is obviously suffering from hallucinations or illusions of grandeur. He will be tended to as well." and then drag him off
>>35336745"We have adapted our medicine to you, you would not know how to use it. We will show you."The workers quickly move in and hoist the human over them. The rest carry out the most critically injured of the group until you have ten in total.Your speaker turns to the others with a clack of its chitinous beak. "Your leaders are in good health, as is your doctor."The human struggles to get to his feet as he is hoisted out of the room by the small horde of workers."Put me down! I'm not injured even! Let me go!""You will feel better soon." Your speaker says simply as it follows."No, I feel just fine, really.""You will feel better!"As your drones leave the chamber you quickly have them sedated and taken to the tanks. As the door flexes shut behind you you see the small, frantic human return to the door."Their gonna eat them, and soon, they're gonna eat us!" He resumes his efforts to tear through the door in vain as any progress he manages to make is quickly scabbed over and healed. You note with some degree of amusement that he has actually made the door stronger in his efforts."We're packed like sardines, can't you see that!" The others watch in silence as the man tires himself out from his panic.
>>35336859Yes, good.This blew all the other writeins out of the water.
>>35336941I feel bad for that crazy guy. Should fix his hands after we return the others.
>>35336941Go back for the crazy man too.
>>35336941Use paralyzing darts on the panicking man. Tell everyone else you have much better sources of nutrition on hand and no reason to consume your guests.
So should we make a second queen?I want to send her far away from our map though, it seems like we were mostly wiped out by coil's gods.
>>35336984There are 10 already, it clearly says that.
>>35337005If we're sending her far away, I don't really see the point.
>>35337005There is no purpose.Larval queens are ravenous and eat everything, you literally can't afford one in upkeep.
>>35337025Its the only way we can actually lay a queen, since anons don't want a second queen.
>>35337034Then don't lay one. Jesus.
>>35337032what, do you mean?
>>35337034Why do you want to lay a queen so badly that you will settle for 'it's the only way' type scenarios in the first place?
>>35337044Read the quest. If you actually cared about laying queens, you could pay attention to the relevant information.>>32214369 >Technically, yes you can spawn queens, however they are very, very resource intensive to produce, as they go through a larval stage in which they devour everything not bolted down before entering a cocoon.
>>35337042>>35337052Having similar characters to us that the QM can control and plan things for is somewhat fun, plus it worked somewhat for AI quest before they uplifted to many A.I.>>35337060We know they eat everything, but we don't know the exact amount, just saying that she will eat our whole hive is pretty far fetched.
>>35336941>10 parasite drones implantedCaptain Gabriel PetersCaptain Randall SandersSenior Spaceman Bruce UdemeSenior Spaceman Michael ForemanSenior Spaceman Bernard IkatiSenior Spaceman Terry WinslowSpacemen Ryan RussmanSpaceman Garry StamfordTechnical Sergeant Norman UdemeTechnical Sergeant George Thurston
If we're talking experimental pheromone manipulation, there is one idea that would be helpful first.A concoction that will cause the humans to be unable to form new long-term memories, so long as we pump the drug into them. Like being drunk and not being able to remember the night, only without the other effects of drunkenness. Its purposes are twofold:- When interrogating humans, between sessions, they will not be able to recall what questions were asked the last session if they were drugged at the time, nor what answers they gave. Thus if they're lying, they won't be able to keep their story straight.- In the bigger picture of experimenting on humans, lack of long term memory should prevent build up of memories of science-driven suffering and torment while in the hive's hospitality. That is, they won't remember all the other times they felt weird because of experimental drugs. Lack of memory should prevent build up of long term psychological problems, which would be a confounding factor when testing the effects of new drugs.
>>35337005I was thinking about that, might be a cool idea later in the quest. Problem with other queens is that they would have free will and their decisions would be totally free from our influence. Which could be problematic given that we're currently smack dab in the middle of a conflict between no fewer than 5 alien civilizations. Maybe once we've gone public and secured some territory for ourselves we can think about having kids, but not right now.
>>35337117I'm game, but i wonder how we are gonna handle Thesus, and the other robot people/program we just woke up.I can see some shit brewing if they ever met up.
>>35337097Why would you want that though? They would likely just get captured by The Theseusian Spy Network and we will loose all of our bargaining potential. Also a question I've been meaning to ask, how easily could Theseus reverse engineer our FTL engine if he captured a pod? Does it rely on our psychic network too much for him to figure it out on his own?
>>35337104whose the one freaking out?
>>35337104Delightful.I can't wait to hear input from our children sensing the adrenaline rush into the humans' bloodstreams next time we talk to them. A whole new way of measuring their responses, from the inside.
>>35337137Trial and error, is probably the answer. >>35337137Also I'm wiling to wait for a situation like this>>35337117
>>35337104Neat. Now we can passively gather practical human biology data in far greater resolution and those 10 dudes basically can't escape or cause a ruckus if we don't want them to.
What planet was Lee being held on? I really wanna send like an asteroid there with a crudely written note "Set Lee Free" and see what they do
>>35337131If they are gonna meet up eventually, why don't we just tell thesus, and in return he gives us tech?
>>35337131Well the skylbots are currently in the heart of the nebula over what could very well be our homeworld, it should be a little while before they go anywhere.More relevantly, what are we going to do with them? I was thinking we should attempt to communicate, and when that inevitably fails nuke them and send in the corvettes. I wonder when those frigates will be ready...
>>35337199I forgot the name, but its the military planet of the union.
>>35337205No, origin is at least 45 lightyears away, considering the Pod had only one blink left in it at the start of the quest.
>>35337205Nuking them, might back fire since it seems they have some pretty dangerous weapons, plus we would lose out on so much potential tech.
>>35337199fill it with fire flies that spell "Lee was framed, bugs love Lee" at night
>>35337203No support for selling thier location, for tech and possibly sharing tech Theseus gets?
>>35337137It would be highly complex, but once they were to crack it they would also be aware of tachyons and how to detect them, and eventually they would become aware of the potential of tachyon based transmission, and through that, psionics.Essentially, the blink drive would open up that entire research field once properly researched by another race.>>35337212Gemini Beta, in the Tau Ceti system. You have a pod orbiting it now, actually.
>>35337203No, not until you get all the tech you can get out of mr. military there yourselves first.
>>35337239People are too busy jacking off over Leeposting to discuss anything else.
>>35337223Aren't there literally hundreds of ships in their fleet? WMDs are the only thing that could possibly do the job.
>>35337239That would be very risky, and if we could establish contact with them we would have sole access to what appears to be absurdly advanced tech.
>>35337250Oh yes. And in regards to the Colony Wars.>>34551711 >rebellion in the year 36 EC when the world of Gemini and its binary twin Gemini Minor, Is it Gemini Minor or Gemini Beta?And why did the Union only send a weak little automated probe to the USV Clarke's distress signal sent over FTLComm, taking forever to arrive with a fleet, but they sent a fleet in a matter of hours when the USV Hope just went silent mysteriously, no distress signal sent?
>>35337250>Gemini Beta, in the Tau Ceti system. You have a pod orbiting it now, actually.cool, time for some pro Bug and Lee propaganda
>>35337299Yeah, i agree on trying to siphon tech away before giving their location away, but i have a feeling Theseus could get more tech, after we are done and sweeten the deal(we might want to destroy anything about tachyons though).
>>35337302Because if they can send a distress signal they are still capable. But if they go silent randomly it could mean anything.
>>35337311Yes, transmitting into their networks from a cloaked pod that shouldn't even be there and thus breaking stealth by emitting radio waves is sensible.Unless you were joking. I can't tell anymore.
>>35337328>Yes, transmitting into their networks from a cloaked pod that shouldn't even be there and thus breaking stealth by emitting radio waves is sensible.of course not, what we should do is set the pod into a crash course with the main military base and blow a crater the size of a football fields with a sign that says "Go Lee">Unless you were joking. I can't tell anymore.yes anon, mostly joking
>>35337311we really should've put some parasites on that pod or something, i hate not being able to do anything but watch
>>35337302From what you can tell from your monitoring of Tau Ceti, ever since the loss of the Clarke the Union fleet has been on high alert in the area, including the addition of reinforcements in the region.Also it's Gemeni Beta, that's just me being silly in the wee hours again. I apologize.
>>35337379Why don't we try to work out a deal with Theseus? There is no one more skilled with digital tech, and I'm sure he would love to get a bug in the networks of the Union's capital.
>>35336178Well, now we might be interested in asking Theseus this.Can he make sense of the humans' nonsensical factionalization? What the hell's a "terrorist"?And what if Theseus fabricated a 'leak' from one of the marines that went with Lee on the mission, and went on the hunting trip with him--only to come back to base, to find a drop trooper had 'gone rogue'.Would that help throw the Union into chaos, if its release was timed right?
>>35337104Your tanks are quick to do their work, sealing wounds and removing infection with good pace. By the end of the day the humans are well on the path to a full recovery, and each with a new companion to keep them company.>Speak with Raligha natives (write in)>Speak with Theseus about Lee>Trade tech with Theseus (write in)>Ask Theseus about infiltrating the Union>Speak with Elizabeth>Other
>>35337409Awesome, do we know if Lee was due to arrive on Gemini Beta by now?Oh and has the construction of those frigates begun yet? Our need for fighting fit space ships only seems to be getting more urgent as of late.
>>35337465>Speak with Theseus about Lee
>>35337465>Speak with ElizabethShe has been disconcertingly quiet
>>35337498our ship construction has been limited by needing to stay under the radar of the monitor satellite. If we want to it crank up, we'll need off-planet construction.
>>35337498Yes, although it was the subject of much contention so I would like to have the design and number voted on before making anything official.
>>35337465>Speak with Raligha natives (Hello)>Speak with Theseus about Lee>Trade tech with Theseus (shield tech for biological samples we have collected)>Ask Theseus about infiltrating the Union>Speak with Elizabeth
>>35337465>>Speak with Theseus about LeeThis: >>35337453
>>35337465>>Speak with Theseus about Lee>>Trade tech with Theseus (write in)>>Ask Theseus about infiltrating the UnionOk, I want to know about the civil unrest in the Union, and how we kick started it.Discuss with Theseus the possibility of getting an aspect of himself into Gemini Beta, and the intel that would come with it.And I really want to do some info bartering with him for mag levs and drop suits, but I've forgotten what we've researched in the past 20 threads.
>>35337554You are a great QM, QD.
>>35337568Drop suit is already being researched, and mag lev can wait.
>>35337465>>Speak with Theseus about LeeAnd also, there's this mysterious monitor satellite in A-295 you might want to hack.How would we assist you hacking it without the Union being alerted to anything in the system?
>>35337465>Speak with Theseus about LeeAdk Theseus if there aren't any humans he feels positively about. About whose welfare he worries. This is a rhetorical tool to increase the likelihood of assistance.
>>35337635What? What assistance?He's already concluded that he must assist Lee, to spite the Union's political agenda.No admitting the irrational soft spot for Lee.
>>35337668Theseus doesn't know we know he's helping Lee. And this is supposed to gauge his feelings for the doctor. Which let's us determine her value more accurately and also feeds us all sorts of soft data about Theseus' personality and goals.
Oh, I think I had a guess as to why Unity might be just sitting there, staring into the sun at 0-2.Note its position on the map.The closest to human space, and very close to Wolf, primary mining star for Canderon.They're studying how Canderon might be formed, if it's a star that might contain it. It's supposed to be only contained in stars in that region, after all.
>>35337730Well yeah, I agree with all those things.Not with the stated goal that anon actually *said*, which was " to increase the likelihood of assistance", which didn't make sense.
>>35337750It's doubtful that Theseus couldn't assist to a greater or more direct degree, if the situation called for it.
>>35337730Indeed, got to establish where Dr. Vaughn and Theseus see each other.
>>35337790Well it shouldn't be phrased in a way that implies the hive has any such feelings.Curiosity, perhaps, "you often speak contemptibly of humans, do you hold no affection for your creators?"
Random thought: we should make tons of cash illegally streaming tv broadcasts from core systems to fringe worlds.
>>35337799Maybe.It would be hard to conceal these bootleg "FTLComms" powered by telepathy though.People would investigate, because such high bandwidth would indicate a very expensive FTLComm, made with resources from somewhere.It would need to be defended against tampering and study, which is hard to do while not stationing obvious big bugs guarding it.Maybe when Atomics is researched, with a nuke inside, that might be something to arrange with Theseus, to sell on the black market.
>>35337796Would rather serve the dual purpose of raising Lee's situation as a priority among Theseus. Even if they just think it's a useful chip to play against us.
>>35337839There's no need to talk about it as if Lee matters personally.He's just a very interesting centerpiece in Union politics. Helping his situation spites the Union's status quo, undermines their agenda. We use the same logic he did.
>>35337799I'm holding out for internet service, personally. The doors that would open...
>>35337465>By the end of the day the humans are well on the path to a full recovery, and each with a new companion to keep them company.Cheeky m8
>>35337554What do are regeneration tanks look like from the outside? Is it possible to see the person inside the tank just by looking at the tanks?
>>35337900Scrotums. Giant scrotums.
Does anyone want to place one 3d display (the cost is so minuscule it isn't even listed) in the holding cell and then start playing them news, edited of course, or films we pick up from are observation of the human worlds?
>>35337465>Speak with Theseus about LeeTheseus quickly replies to your mental note. "Theseus, why do the humans of the Union fight each other? Has the hive's presence started a conflict?""Not at all, it's an election year." You sense some amount of humor in his tone, but he stands by the answer. "The Union is a very intricate network of delicately balanced bribes, blackmails, and kickbacks. Usually it all balances out at the end of the day, but on occasion there is a sequence of random, unforeseen events that collapse the balance of power. The events in the video were simply the end result of years of growing tensions.""Tensions between whom, exactly?"Theseus calls several bits of data from the link to the greater network before responding. "At the moment the primary overt conflict would be between the Tories, the Greens, and the Levies, but it is a bit more complicated." Theseus stops for a moment. "Actually, I think some information on what a political party is would be best."The information is rather basic, and much of it was covered in the books you had retrieved from the Clarke, but Theseus transmits several documents covering the general concepts of the Union's system of government. A convoluted system of checks and balances officially designed to prevent political power from being accumulated in any one individual. All major decisions are decided by a group of elected officials that serve in the Parliament, and are typically elected through one of several parties. The Tories, who desire an increase in security and standard of living for human citizens, and typically vote alone the same lines as the Nationals, and the Greens, who support pro-xeno rights agendas, often in exchange for support from the Rhinos on issues of Union-Commonwealth reintegration.By the end of it it still makes little sense to you."That's by design, so few people actually know who or what they vote for, it makes it easy to get people to vote the way you want." Theseus says.
>>35337900I know I was imagining a large translucent pitcher plant on four legs, filled with green fluid.>>35338005Of course. And the 'terrorist' label? It looked like someone blew up that building.Where does the Union intelligence agency and its keeping of illegal secrets from its own people come into this process?Would some well timed information leaks about Lee's marine mission have desireable effects?
I can't believe it took me until now to realize that the 'spiderballs' the Union people described were just them referring to the cylindrical drum people of Raligha.
>>35338005"So then why go through all the trouble?""Because humans like to be obtuse about these things. It used to actually have proper elections, but they haven't actually altered the power structure in nearly a century. Only three people in office are less than ninety.""Then what does it have to do with the hive, and with this Lee?"Theseus thinks for a moment, some data is streamed from Zero-One before he responds. "Most likely, he will be painted as a pro-xeno rights activist by the Nationalists, and used to sway favor among voters away from the Greens, and by proxy, the Rhinos. The Proxima Convention will be within the month, and one of the biggest election issues is what topics to bring up in the talks." He hesitates for a moment before continuing. "I have been trying to sabotage those efforts, for some years now, actually."
>>35338176You seek to turn the Union and the Commonwealth against each other as a distraction, by derailing their peace talks?
>>35338176Would footage of our drones be of use to you in your efforts to sabotage these efforts?
>>35338176"And how does the hive come into this?" You ask."As a bargaining chip of the Greens. After Ryan Lee first arrived, rumors abounded of the man who was saved by an alien. Several talk shows and a news interview later and Lee was commissioned as an officer by Leslie Paxton, a Nationalist party leader, and sent on the obviously sabotage mission that has caused all this mess. Now, however, Lee is missing from government custody, and even I can't seem to find him. I'm not entirely sure who is making what move and why until I know where he is."Theseus takes pause for a moment. "Why the sudden interest?"
>>35338266Oh yes, the footage of a skinless terminator laughing maniacally is guaranteed to throw a corvette sized wrench into the political machine of the union.
>>35338364"Lee is our friend"This is humor
>>35338364The hive is wondering how to distract the Union from doing such invasive things to it again.Which side do we need to win to get the sabotaged result we need for the Proxima Convention?So Lee might have been 'rescued' by ultra-hippies against his will, thought that was what that bombing thing was.Or Union intelligence decided to abduct him for cyborgization, maybe. That's even less likely.
>>35338364"Call it sentimentality if you wish, he was the first human to see the Hive for what and who it truly was. In his own way he helped more than he knew at the time, it will be interesting to see where his path will lead"
>>35338405Let's not.The Union politics is the only way to attempt to make sense of their moves so far, and their power structure seems like a weakpoint in a civilization of individuals.
>>35338364"Lee seemed to express distress and understand his position as a sacrifice for a superior power. The terminator sent to our hive has caused damage to it, and the hive does not appreciate being taken advantage of as a bargaining chip or being invaded."You know, we DO have a professional infiltrator/spec-ops guy hanging out as a prisoner. He's been known to offer to do jobs for free if captured and set free...Though I'm not sure if we can trust him not to sell us out.
>>35338364Hmm. How do we smuggle more Theseuses into more systems without anyone noticing?This is one juicy rabbit hole to go down.
>>35338364Well, Theseus has seen that corvettes can be cloaked, in the surprise attack on the Hope.Given our stealth capability, how could we assist in spreading Theseus to more human computer systems?
>>35338364...Sabotage the Proxima Convention in what way?Which party has to gain control for the successful sabotage?
>>35338400Oh man if xeno rights guys kidnapped and smuggled him out of the system.What if they buy a security code for the monitor satellite on the black market and decide to bring him here, to reunite with their Xeno Brothers?
>>35338364The hive takes interest in everything as there's always something that can be learned. We also happen to like Lee as he is good hearted.
>>35338532>good hearted*extremely gullible
>>35338546Yeah, but it doesn't sound as good.
So why doesn't unity make porn and fill it with viruses?
>>35338364"The hive has been attacked on several occasions due to this political maneuvering. If there is a way to prevent it from spilling here again, all the better."Theseus thinks on that for a moment and says, "Humans are beings of action. If you make them think there is an emergency they will often react to it before they can realize they were fooled, and once fooled, they will often prefer to defend their position than acknowledge they were ever wrong." He sends another stream of data to and from Zero-One. "I have numerous copies spreading across the Union network, and now even the military network to some extent, thanks to you. For now, however, not much can be done until Ryan Lee is found and we know who is planning what."You sense Zero-One bounce a litany of theories back and forth, ranging from a false-flag assault by Union forces, to Pro-xeno extremists. There is even a small number of copies that consider the possibility of your hive having infiltrated the Union already."What about this convention?"Theseus seems to be caught off guard for a moment. "Ah, yes, my understanding of Commonwealth politics is far less, so I am less sure of how they would react. The Rhinos, however, wish to introduce talks of creating a coalition of limited interaction. By having these talks conclude, I may be able to infiltrate Commonwealth space with greater ease, while the Nationals wish to prevent such talks as they use the Commonwealth as an enemy to compare their military budgets. Fewer things are easier to win money for than a military when you can convince the people your neighbors want to invade."
>>35338364Shouldn't we have 20 gilled workers and warriors?
>>35338597>your hive having infiltrated the Union already.Fucking /pol/ shut up.
>>35338597As you look over the convoluted construction of the Union political system you contemplate other matters. Your fleet has been growing, and with your new farms on the way you look over the possibility of adding reinforcements to your forces.>Design new ship>Lay drones>Other
>>35338597Huh. Something to study the transmissions at Aquila concerning, then.Maybe Theseus would be interested in some of those.
>>35338657I like Colossi. 14 more of those would be nice.Some more Pods to study more of Commonwealth and Union space might be cool.
>>35338657I was thinking that a remote egg-sack and workers being shipped to Raligha to start up a secondary Hive would be a good idea.I would also be fine with starting a remote egg-sack hive in a different locations if others wanted.
>>35338657Design:An EnterpriseLay:40 gilled workers (20 if we already have some)20 Gilled warriors60 Radiator workersOther:Scout locations for a under water base and for a desert (are world) base.
>>35338713The thing is, the Union is going to come back to Raligha, and they'll have a monitor satellite that won't be compromised and will actually be watching.And they can detect a hive by thermal signature, apparently, at least when it's hot on the surface.
>>35338657So how much does it take to make a queen?(not asking to make one, just for future references).
>>35338718>60 Radiator workersOkay on this, because we still want to use those to construct a new docking pylon somewhere on the opposite side of the planet.We already have the gilled workers and warriors though.
>>35338657Current suggestions:>14 colossi>increase gilled workers to 40>20 gilled warriors>60 radiator workers>12 excavators>Other>>35338744Actually, it's more that your current hive is so massive, and has to vent so much heat to stay cool that it appears as a giant glowing blob. A smaller hive hiding within the ruins would be far less visible.
We should design an ambassador drone to use with the humans
>>35338780I thought it appeared as a cool area in the valley between the mountain and the mine?
>>35338780>>OtherCan we try making human clones yet?
>>35338801No. We haven't even started using the humans we GOT to their full potential.
>>35338812He said it was possible once we have the biotanks in the ask page.
>>35338657Lay 20 warriors with seeker pods.Also, have we come to a consensus on the frigate design? I for one prefer the later one with heavy armor instead of reflexive and no fighters.
>>35338824Why not colossi with seekers.That gives more bang for your buck, plus it fits with us having a colossi version of our warriors.
>>35338824How about just seeker pods on legs with the free adaptations.
>>35338780Increase the excavators to 20 and add 50 diggers and 20 refineries. We're going to need much more metal for those capital ships.
>>35338835>more bang for your buckIt literally doesn't.One drone that is twice as expensive isn't more efficient than two drones. It's less, in fact, if you take into account rounding-down, which can't happen with Large drones.
>>35338780Those wotk for me, but add laying another fake queen and sending are current one to start a small hive in the ruins.
>>35338838Why make it cheaper?You do know the cheaper the seeker pod is the worst it becomes right?
>>35338844That is way too many refineries. You don't need that many for that many diggers.Also just stick to making more excavators, it looks like they're more efficient, at +250M per day each, on the meteor.
>>35338851Seeker Pod: A large, porous sack that grows and maintains a small swarm of semi-autonomous seekers. Max seekers number is equal to total cost, and they can be loaded with any ammunition type available to weapon grafts. (10N)Having more seekers sounds decent, plus this is the colossi version, which is the heavy version of everything we have.
>>35338855Explain further?At medium size the seeker pod has 10 seekers in it no matter what other adaptations the drone has.
>>35338838It would be far more fragile that way and unable to keep up with our winged warriors. Lets put em on the warriors
>>35338884It's not going into the line of fire whenever possible.And it's fragile no matter what, since the seeker pod is a big giant weak point.
>>35338864Well how many are enough to support 50 diggers? Would 10 do?
>>35338780Looks like the general consensus is>14 colossi>increase gilled workers to 40>20 gilled warriors>60 radiator workers>12 excavatorsI think I'll need to call it for the night here since I have work in the morning. I'll try to stick around for a while for questions and comments.>>35338796I forget what I said exactly, but the hive doesn't show up as an obvious alien hive, it's more like a thermal anomaly that someone could reasonably dismiss as an underwater lake or volcano if they didn't know any better.>>35338879I should mention that that refers to the total cost of the adaptation, not the drone. So medium gets 10, large 20, ect.
>>35338907>I should mention that that refers to the total cost of the adaptation, not the drone. So medium gets 10, large 20, ect.Well that changes everything, if it was the drone than going for expensive would have worked.
>>35338855Having two seeker pods each with 10 costs the same as having one giant one containing 20.>>33154867 > A drone with it would be able to loose 10 of them at once, 20 if on a large droneQD had dropped trip at the time in that thread but you can see him confirm it was him a few posts later.>>35338879"total cost" means total cost OF THE SEEKER POD, not the entire goddamn drone. 10 for medium, 20 for large, regardless of armor.
>>35338907What about diggers and refineries? Or the seeker pods?
>>35338917Well duh. You were really under that misapprehension this whole time?
>>35338932Excavators are better, apparently, than diggers anyway.Even though it's not listed how much they give per day, only the diggers, the extra metals income appears to come from them.QD should really add the per-excavator income in the meteor for clarity's sake.
>>35338907I was honestly expecting a little vignette about the parasites being introduced to their new home, squirming their way up to the human pancreas and tasting their blood for the first time.But I can respect the need to keep the quest moving briskly.Maybe next round.
>>35338957That he should. But if the excavators are that much better we should be laying more than 12, like at least 20. Our metal income is falling way behind our nutrient income.
>>35338932We can start off with a vote for those next thread.>>35338957Yea, I'll try to get all that listed out more clearly to list out where income is coming from and how.The asteroid itself though is much richer than the mine, so both excavators and diggers are gathering more per day there than on the surface.>>35338990Actually, they are snug between the liver and lungs, attached to a main artery for nutrient gathering. Nice, warm and cozy.
>>35338907When first running a diagnostic on Dr. Vaughn in the Hel's Angel medical lab, it was noted that yeah the Queen is still fairly inexperienced with human biology.Is the parasites' presence inside the humans continuously adding to that body of knowledge, or is more active exploratory surgery needed to become a human expert?
>>35339009Right, but I mean, by math, the excavators are doing the work of five diggers, as well as refining it too, at less than five times the upkeep cost of a digger.So it works out as a better use of egglaying.
>>35339016The parasites are drastically increasing the amount you know of human biology, especially with regard to chemical and hormonal balances and the like.
>>35339036All the newly parasited humans listed were officers listed.I thought we separated the officers into individual cells? But we came to the common area with the few non officers in it.
Can we go ahead and make some weapons for the collosi now? As a matter of fact, could we work out a system where we automatically construct weapons for warriors and their variants when they are laid?
>>35339160Oh right we do need a bunch of Rotary Stingers and Thorn Cannons for the big guys huh.And a few Plasma Sprays.
>>35339169So far I think those plasma sprays have proven to be the most effective weapon available to large drones.
Okay, I can smell the bait for releasing Lyle to freedom in exchange for the job of discovering the mystery at the heart of the Lee Conspiracy.But of course, releasing Lyle on any mission also means releasing *Coil*.Who will sing the praises of the hive all the way back to his people, and tell them all about a race that has the natural ability to hear the Current.That can't happen.Also releasing him means no longer being able to study Cybernetics at all. And while he will never reveal the names of his employers when people ask him who hired him, can't trust him not to talk about his botched mission to G-426 when people like the Broker ask about what happened on that.
>>35339184I'm not so certain Lyle is qualified to handle espionage type missions, he does not strike me as a subtle man. That said, we could use him to ferry us around in Union space without risking our cover, which would allow us to deploy flies on human worlds. Presumably, we will convince Coil to keep quite or just insist he sticks to the job then returns to the hive.Plus, I find the entire crew of the Angel hilarious. I kinda wanna introduce then to Lee.
>>35339029I mean the math is that there are no excavators in the terrestrial mine, but there are 5 on the meteor mine. That was the number assigned all those ages ago when the meteor base was first established. The original 4 excavators are presumably still assigned to accelerating construction projects.Since the terrestrial mine says>Mine: +1500 M per day (+25 M per digger)And has no excavators, it must have 60 diggers. There are 80 diggers total listed, so there are 20 on the meteor.>Asteroid mining base: +2250M per day (+50 M per digger)20*50 is 1000, leaving 1250M income that must be from excavators, there are five of them there, that's +250M each, five times what a digger digs, but they also refine it too.
>>35339238Coil can probably *palantir* his homeworld as soon as he has unfettered access to the void shards.I mean we've seen that it's a two way street, for telepaths, first hand.
>>35339238Yeah he's only any good if we want him to assassinate the Prime Minister of the Union of Independent Colonies, for some reason.He ain't even good as a ferryman. His ship is conspicuous in design, it doesn't even use the Gravity Drive.Really, Theseus should have some other black market contacts on the internet besides this guy, you'd think.
>>35339254We don't know that for a fact, and in any case we can either tell him it is the will of the gods to keep us secret, or show him what his gods actually are.In any case I assume we will be sending flies or or other drones with Lyle on his ship. We can keep an eye on Coil that way.
>>35339303Lyle would never permit stowaways, and it would be impossible to hide a psionic relay that would allow the drones to actually act as eyes and ears, they're kinda big.And so we'd know when Coil betrayed the hive's secrets, but we would be incapable of preventing it.
Oh this updated.http://pastebin.com/0SEZcPP6A-295 – White dwarf (Space pod located here)• Frozen ice planet• Monitor satellite orbiting ice planet• Binary volcanic planets, high metal concentration• Barren, irradiated planetoid>• Monitor satelliteThat's a confirmed monitor satellite? It's described different from the one here. Boxy, instead of a cylinder.This confirms there's probably something sapient down there though.
>>35339318Who said anything about stowaways? We could specify their presence as a requirement. And I'm sure he could be made to see the benefit of having a swarm of flies to recon for him, or a couple of shocktroopers for use as support/meatsheilds.
>>35339036Wait, I don't think this ever came up. >>32668367 How big is coil? His main body, his tentacles?
>>35339303Coil has *some* way to dial home, his plan was to mess with the monitor satellite with the reused security code, and then to contact his people to send help.The void shards themselves would be the least surprising method.