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>>34784675HOLLOW SUN: 101.6%http://pastebin.com/yC3Khjt4RESEARCH:[X] RESEARCH: ASSAULT HARDSHELL[X] DIRAC TRANSMITTER I[X] MASS DRIVER[X] SCRANDER PROPULSION SYSTEM[X] ENDOSTEEL INTERNAL STRUCTURE[X] SOLARIS CHARGING MATRIXRESEARCH COMPLETE - FALSEHOOD ARRAY> CHAYOT-CLASS HELLIONS UNLOCKED.VOID ANCHORS:ORIGINAL HIVETHE TRIBUNALNARAKATHE VAULTTUSITAHOLDING: 1RED COMET GUIDE:http://pastebin.com/LJAfQmXyUPDATES:- CHAYOT-class Hellions unlocked.- Abruption Jets added to the Vault.- DUAL-PHASE MICROSTRUCTURE, DISTORTION HALO, EROSION FIELD STABILIZERS, WARP CAPACITORS available for research.- FALSEHOOD GENERATOR available.- MENTIROSO module and INTERDICTOR BITS unlocked.
>>34784684>101.6%Along with whatever else we get, let's pick up the Abruption Jets.
>>34784684>Abruption Jets added to the Vault.ROCKET KNESSFIRST BUY OF THE SESSION IS ROCKET KNEESOP, is it intended that Chayot-class Hellions apparently don't have transformation servoes/modular frames/teleport homers?(...To be fair, I don't see which body parts we could actually add to our armor)
>>34784696(Yes. They can't actually transform, due to their radical difference from other kinds of Hellions. Given the number you've unlocked, the Hollow Sun is actually moving away from the humanoid basis favored by the initial 'castes' of Hellion Hardshells, and into a design aesthetic that is distinctly inhuman. The Destroyer-class units and Archangel-class units are similarly alien in design, too.)
So last session we said that we wanted all of the weapon researches.[ ] INDUCTION BLASTERS[ ] MASS DRIVER[ ] DISINTEGRATOR CANNON[ ] MACHINE CANNON [ ] MICRO-SCALE SUSPENSORS[ ] POSITRON LANCE That would be 60% charge.Plus the 25% for rocket knees.That leaves 15% charge for something else.
>>34784732We could pick up a VA, a Red Comet upgrade, or a Hellion upgrade.I think we should pick up an upgrade for the Comet. Maybe the matrix?
>>34784761If we do a tank upgrade, I vote for progenitor engram, the panoptic array, gravimetric nexus, thanatos infuser, nitro booster or chassis reinforcement.All three add a whole lot to its functionality and extend its lifetime.I wonder when the other players will arrive to vote.
>>34784813Probably never, the thread is rather late. I'll switch my vote to reinforcement, as it seems much more useful than the matrix.
INTERLUDE:STAGE: DISIn the enormous darkness beneath the bruised sky, Volt Regios hunts. The Corrector - Thickly plated with mottled, fibrous grey armor - lurches across the rooftops. It is a warped thing, a thing with clusters of orange eyes on either side of a sharply angular head - crowned with a head crest of chitinous growths, rough, bony and ivory. It is a hyperactive blur, metabolism spiked to a frenzy: Combining the worst parts of locust and spider, it skitters onwards, smoke wisping from scarred carapace, almost too fast for the eye to see...-But not faster than lightning. Volt Regios's thorn-blade carves the air before him, and seething orbs of electricity fume into existence. They shudder, as they circle him like will-o'-wisps, each one spitting forth a sizzling bolt of lightning. A crack of thunder, an arc of juddering, twitching lightning, a wail from the target. Stray shots kiss the pitted black iron of the roof, Regios's tireless legs bearing him onwards- What is Bishamon doing?That is the question that has plagued him, for long days now. Even this, right now, reminds Volt Regios of how the Black Tri-Stars would stalk Correctors together - One to track the target, one to drive it into the waiting arms of the hunters, and one to deliver the killing blow. Their absence erodes his focus, turns his grim mood to a foul one.Volt Regios does not smile much.Volt Regios does not smile, ever. The Corrector is outpacing him. Regios raises his thorn-blade, and his gauntlet clamps down on the pistol-grip: Cunningly articulated segments unlock, parting, revealing two-tined prongs separated by empty space - Crackling streams of energy zipping back and forth, the low, humming swell of power echoing in his auditory sensors...-From the corner of his eye, a flicker of motion- (Continued)
>>34784968Regios springs back. The roof judders, as great spikes of stone - One after another, chasing him - punch through the dull metal. His cloak flutters, heels skidding against the surface - Wheeling, abruptly, to face- "Where is the Red Joker?"Hatred - taut and frustrated - turns CALCITE ARROW'S voice into a bitter crackle. His bow is at the ready, an arrow levelled at Regios. Cables bulge beneath his off-white armor, like hawsers, telling of the immense effort it takes to hold himself in check.Volt Regios, however, sees only the fanged leer of the Smiler crest that rides high on Calcite's shoulder. Regios sweeps his cloak back - The gesture revealing the throwing spikes that criss-cross his pale blue armor, in overlapping bandoliers. The same motion brings a spike to his hand - An arc of lightning leaping between thorn-blade and spike, rising in a crackling haze of sparks. In that moment, he thinks - The Red Joker has the answers. Of course. And then the fury of their combat lights up the skyline like a lightning storm. ------------------------Festival day, at Seisin High. A cacophony, but a happy one - A bewildering blitz of music, and color, and smells and...Well, words fail you. It's as if a miniature city has blossomed, overnight, on the open grounds of the campus - The ordered lines of the boots broken by the uneven shapes of tents and stalls and displays and banners, draped across every conceivable surface. There's confetti strewn underfoot, on the cobbles; The breeze picking up, a cluster of balloons swirling into the air like migratory birds- ...Ten schools, clustered into the same place. The effort it must've taken to plan this - For it to be anything more than disordered - must've been a Herculean one. (The cleanup afterwards is likely to be just as epic.) (Continued)
>>34785106If Regios meets us today, I would like to give him a Terminus unlock.Even if he is destined to die.
>>34785106"Haaaa..." A soft, thready sigh parts Mio's lips - Her face turned upwards, almost glowing, her expression somewhere between awe and delight. "...So many *people*..." she murmurs, almost to herself - Her hands clasped behind her back, as she comes to a stop. "-I never thought..." Her voice trails off, as she half-turns to face you - That sweet flush to her cheeks, her head canting ever-so-slightly to the side. When she smiles, the effect is arresting; Tracing strands of blonde hair back from her green, green eyes, with a simple, uncomplicated happiness that lights her up from within. For the past few minutes, she's been walking at your side, in companionable silence - Slim fingers rising, more than once, to brush lightly against her lips; Then a sidelong glance, a little laugh, as she blushes all over again. Technically, you aren't supposed to be walking together - But the Committee Pass pinned to Mio's school uniform is excuse enough. ("A date in plain sight..." she'd said, in the languid silence of the hall's wings. "Anon-kun...Please accompany me.")"Anon-kun~!" A giggle, a wave - She's slightly ahead, now, waving you forward; Her gaze meeting and holding yours for the space of a breath, before she lowers her eyes. But Mio's voice is a soft, warm murmur - You've never seen her look this happy, even as she pretends to consult the map before her: One hand rising to cup her pointed chin, the other at her side. "-Ah, there's so much to see...I never thought it'd look like this," Mio muses aloud. Then:"...Anon-kun - Where should we go first~?"[ ] "Where would you like?"[ ] "Hmmm...The Shooting Gallery. I have free passes."[ ] "A cafe, I think."[ ] "-The Haunted House."[ ] "The fortune-teller."[ ] "How about - My school's stand?"[ ] FreeYOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34785228>"Hmmm...The Shooting Gallery. I have free passes."Wonder if we're any good at shooting things in the real world
>>34785228> [X] FreeHold her hand.
To unlock everything from the Hollow Sun we need at least 2000% Charge....keep this in mind, guys.
>>34785228>[ ] "Hmmm...The Shooting Gallery. I have free passes."Let's see if she has talent. Just in case.
>>34785274Anyway, isn't basically everyone in favor of the rocket knee upgrade?>>34785244Yes, we are. As is Kazuya.We are both really fucking awesome, in fact.
>>34785301All three of us, yeah.
>>34785228>[ ] "Hmmm...The Shooting Gallery. I have free passes."
>>34785337I think Joker might have a thing for girls with guns.
>>34784693>>34784696>>34784732>>34784834(I'll wait for a consensus on the rest of the items.)RELIC UNLOCKED: ABRUPTION JETSBased off the design of Chayot-class Hellions, the Abruption Jets allow for rapid changes in momentum via banks of reactionless thrusters. While lacking the sustained output of your Tempest Scrander, Abruption Jets allow for incredible, bewildering bursts of speed that defy all conventional physics - However, they overheat quickly, and require some time to recharge. (tl;dr - Abruption Jets allow for a free movement action that takes place *before* your actual movement for the round, allowing you to move a substantial distance in any linear direction. This can be used as a free dodge, and as an instant 'brake' that leaves you completely unharmed by the rapid change in momentum.)
So what do we want to get next?This >>34784732 seems like a good idea.
>>34785379Do we get bonus damage for momentum when we use this in conjunction with the Crisis arm?As for other researches, I think that going for Mass Driver, Disintegrator cannon and machine cannon makes the most sense, considering that those use atypical damage types (physical) for us.This would put our current drain at 55%, so we could get another Hellion type, which would still leave us with 25%.I would like to spend it on Solaris Charging Matrix, which reduces the biggest bottleneck in terms of satellite fire time.
>>34785409>>34785379I want the Quantum Accelerator Hollow Sun upgrade. It would be nice to force some of the upgrades to finish with leftover energy tidbits.
You know, I wonder what Japanese people would think of Joker Quest.
>>34785489Good point.So...Mass Driver, Disintegrator Cannon, Quantum Accelerator and Solaris Charging Matrix?Not quite the original plan, but the accelerator will come in handy at some point. I hope.
>>34785490They'd try to go for a harem end.
>>34785515Sounds cool, though personally I'd swap one of the weapon types for Micro-Scale Suspensors. Just a matter of taste.
>>34785432(Yes, actually.)>>34785244>>34785287>>34785337> [X] "Hmmm...The Shooting Gallery. I have free passes."-That's right. The Kaisei High booth isn't far from here - And you still have a (slightly crumpled) golden ticket tucked away somewhere. It's hard to miss, the animatronics of the carnivalesque setup audible even from here: There's a line, but it's moving along at quite a substantial pace. Getting there is something of an adventure in itself; You cut past the crowds clustering around an impromptu cosplay competition - Mio sneaks a glance, then reddens slightly - the flash and whirr of cameras a constant background accompaniment...Then past a rather unsteady-looking drop tower, the kind which shakes under the strain of it's own operation. It certainly hasn't discouraged people - Even as you watch, a new gondola is rising, rising to the top, in the moments before the plunge... There's just so much to see, before you finally join the line - The raised canvas walls muting the background chatter, like a cool cocoon of close-to-silence. "So *this* is the shooting gallery..." Mio echoes - looking slightly dubious as she takes in the rather disturbing decor, all clown masks and animatronic paper-mache jugglers. It's very, very elaborate, you have to admit: You can't help but wonder how they've managed to get it working, and *keep* it working under the constant operation. "-It's...A little strange, don't you think?" she pauses, and corrects herself a moment later - "Ah, but...Anon-kun, you like this kind of games, right?" A sidelong glance, oddly shy, lowering her voice again: "...Kazuya-kun told me. It's not really my thing, but...I think they have prizes, here...?"[ ] "Strange? Strange how?"[ ] "It *is* a little spooky." [ ] "...The person running it is pretty strange, too." [ ] "-What else did Kazuya tell you?"[ ] "...Apparently, everyone hates clowns."[ ] FreeYOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34785561I like the suspensors, but they wouldn't likely grant additional tech.Which weapon type would you replace? Because we already dialed down from six to two.
>>34785597>[ ] "...Apparently, everyone hates clowns.">[ ] "-What else did Kazuya tell you?">[ ] "...The person running it is pretty strange, too." "It's no Charmant, though."
>>34785597>[ ] "Strange? Strange how?">[ ] "-What else did Kazuya tell you?"
>>34785597>"...Apparently, everyone hates clowns.">"-What else did Kazuya tell you?"
>>34785604It's not critical if we have the accelerator. Now that I think about it, more weapon types is rad, since if we unlock any cool heavy weapons, we can accelerate the suspensors to carry them.
>>34785662Okay, so sticking with two weapon types.Anyone else want to chime in?
>>34785597"...The person running it is pretty strange, too.""-What else did Kazuya tell you?"
>>34785678I don't have much to say, but I'll throw in a vote for whatever you decide on so we can spend the rest of that charge.
>>34785662>>34785678>>34785694Okay, so three votes for:Mass Driver, Disintegrator Cannon, Quantum Accelerator and Solaris Charging Matrix
>>34785635>>34785636>>34785637> [X] "Strange? Strange how?""Um..." Mio's brow furrows ever-so-slightly, as she considers this...The line shuffling forward, a little at a time. "...It's almost - Well, that is..." she glances to either side, as if for support - Only to be confronted by more rouged and grease-painted masks, enough to bring a shudder to her slim shoulders. Then:"-Anon-kun, it's...kind of creepy..." Her admission makes her look momentary downcast. "I'm - I'm not really good with scary things. But-" and there's that soft glance again, the beginnings of a flush in her cheeks - "Since Anon-kun's here, too..."> "...The person running it is pretty strange, too."Right. He was quite a character - For some reason, there's something uncomfortable about him.> "...Apparently, everyone hates clowns.""Ah-" Mio covers her mouth, to hide her smile. "...Everyone? Really?" Her expression's momentary thoughtful - "I don't know; It's not the clowns that I mind, but...Don't you think it's kind of sad? They're smiling all the time, but...They're the ones people are laughing at. Even if it's just an act, it feels like...""-It feels like having to put up a front, somehow..." Mio's voice lowers - For a moment, it almost seems like she's talking to herself...Before she draws a deep breath, shaking her head lightly to dispel the odd mood. "-But, it can't be *all* people..." (Continued)
>>34785597>[ ] "-What else did Kazuya tell you?"
>>34785752I support those choices as well.
>>34785752We already are researching Mass Drivers and the Charging Matrix, and our limiting factor for research is ENERGY and not TIME.Instead, get Induction Blasters, Distintegrator Cannon, Machine Cannon, Positron Lance, Microscale Suspensors and the Distortion Cannon for Leukocyte.
>>34785891>We already are researching Mass Drivers and the Charging Matrix, and our limiting factor for research is ENERGY and not TIME.I knew that I was missing something.Thanks for actually thinking.However, I'd wager that Synapse Capacitors would be more useful than the Distortion Cannon.We really need to get that cost down, even if Meter isn't the bottleneck anymore. (due to being able to use Cobalt energy)IMO we should work on making it more accessible, now that we threatened someone with it.
>>34785770> "-What else did Kazuya tell you?"Mio blinks, a little guiltily - As if she's been caught-out, her face going a little redder; Still, she can't dodge the question when you're looking right at her, lowering her voice so as not to be overheard."-Just...*some* things," she says, as if it's nothing at all - Her slim fingers twining together before her. "Stuff like - The time you got lost in the forest, as a kid...The time you really, really wanted to finish a game so much, you stayed up all...The time you scrawled all over the walls with crayo-"...You're going to have a *good* talk with Kazuya afterwards, that's for sure. "...I don't mind." Mio's looking down, now, at her feet. "-Hearing things like that...It makes Anon-kun sound like a very warm person. And, ummm, a really cute kid..."Okay, now that's just rubbing it in. "Anon-kun...I - never got a chance to do things like that. Having him tell me about it...It's reassuring, somehow." She flashes you a smile, brief but heartfelt - "...Even the embarrassing things about you - I wanted to know all about it." Her voice goes softer, almost a whisper: "A, and - Kazuya-kun also said..." her voice goes a little huskier, mimicking Kazuya's tone - she's not very good at it, but she gets the essentials down. "'-he's always been an honest person; If you want him to...know, you have to be straigh-'""Okay, that's enough - Stop *right* there." That voice - It couldn't be - Kazuya's arm coils around your neck, locking hard - He's suddenly, abruptly in your field of vision, as if he's edited himself into existence. Mio flinches back, going red - Redder - a startled "...K-kazuya-kun?" teased from her lips. "-Seriously, you can't just tell Anon what *I* said. That was *in confidence*, all right?" [ ] "Kazuya-? *How* are you here?"[ ] "What are you doing here?"[ ] "-'in confidence'. Right."[ ] "Oh, this I *have* to hear."[ ] "You're here alone? Or-"[ ] FreeYOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34785891Huh, they are in the research tab. I'll second this, but next time we need to finish the base Hellion upgrades.
>>34785752>>34785891So just swap the charging matrix for a chassis upgrade, and swap the mass drivers for machine cannon or induction blasters. Three votes is pretty solid considering tonight's population.
>>34785956>[ ] "Kazuya-? *How* are you here?">[ ] "-'in confidence'. Right.">[ ] "What are you doing here?"
>>34785956>[ ] "Kazuya-? *How* are you here?""When did you learn how to teleport?">[ ] "-'in confidence'. Right.">[ ] "You're here alone? Or-""It's fine. I mean, I want to know what people tell about me to my girlfriend behind my back.Better than one day finding out that someone told her I'm a murderer or something. You know, that cliched old story."
>>34785956>[ ] "-'in confidence'. Right.">Ask him about the things he said about anon
>>34785980I like his proposal, though.I'm okay with it, aside from the Distortion Cannon. IMO the satellite isn't accessible enough to make an additional fire mode worth it right now.
>>34785994>>"It's fine. I mean, I want to know what people tell about me to my girlfriend behind my back.>Better than one day finding out that someone told her I'm a murderer or something. You know, that cliched old story."Pls no. Veto.
>>34785949Well, the Distortion Cannon is so that we can always have a firing option (and because then no one can follow the trail back to the satellite). The biggest Leukocyte accessibility upgrade is actually the Designator, because it removes the need for active lockon--Harrow or Argus--and cuts down the time for lockon.>>34785956>[X] "Kazuya-? *How* are you here?">[X] "Oh, this I *have* to hear.">[X] "You're here alone? Or-"As quietly as possible: "Kazuya. She saw you."
>>34786039> "Kazuya. She saw you."Who?
>>34786039I thought that the designator also requires an active action to create a lock.
>>34786070Right, but you don't have to pay for Harrow or hold the Argus lock. You end up saving meter/cobalt.
>>34786088But the designator is hand-held, according to the description.We'd just be trading for a different price.
>>34786113Well yeah, but it takes 40 meter less to use the Designator over Harrow, and eliminates the costs of up to six rounds of holding an Argus lock while boosting accuracy and lowering firing time.
>>34786152Good point.Though I'd wager that reducing the lock time would be even more effective for that.
>>34785956OP, while they argue about the Leukocyte upgrade neither of them votee for, I'll also vote for the weapon research here >>34785891, while reminding them that the only thing worse than the satellite costing a lot is the satellite costing a lot and missing when fired.
>>34784684>HOLLOW SUN: 101.6%Holy shit, why is this so high.Are we saving for something, or have we just not been spending?!JQOP, with the terminus array, can we get hints as to what thegrinder can make out of things now - a probe, basically, without using it up/committing to making someone into an item?Anyway.Lucifer Bits. It is time to pimp out our drones, for reasons i've gone over many, many, many times in the past.
>>34786199>Lucifer BitsHahahaha no.
>>34786199>Lucifer Bits. It is time to pimp out our drones, for reasons i've gone over many, many, many times in the past.Lucifer Bits increase their power while they are active. This means that the meter drain is even more of an issue for them.Also, we now have gravity bits.Personally, I would prefer Sword Bits, but who the fuck would back me on that?Also, wouldn't Signal Booster be more useful? It grants us increased accuracy whenever we go burning Joker.
>>34785989>>34785994>>34786002>>34786039>>34786054> [X] "Kazuya-? *How* are you here?"> [X] "What are you doing here?""-Why *wouldn't* I be here?" he counters, relaxing his chokehold slightly. "Oh, all right. I saw the two of you together, and - Hey, I was worried for you! I wanted to see how you'd be...Uh, getting on."Mio makes a low sound - A sound that's slightly scandalized - and he lowers his voice as the line shuffles onwards. Fortunately, it's not like people are paying too much attention to you: The guy ahead is too busy with his handphone, the one behind making only a cursory grumble."Ah, fine. I had a free pass too, remember?" Kazuya produces a - rather crumpled - ticket stub, waving it under your nose. "-Since we're here..."> [X] "-'in confidence'. Right.""-Well, it was *supposed* to be..." He glances at Mio, and her smile's faintly embarrassed. "Ah, forget it. It doesn't matter now. I just wanted her to get the full picture, that's all." Kazuya's voice is lofty, as if he's the offended party - All the same, there's that twinkle in his eye...> Ask him about the things he said about anon. > "It's fine. I mean, I want to know what people tell about me to my girlfriend behind my back.""Oh, it's - Uh, it's nothing you need to worry about." He segues from his loose chokehold to a pat on the back. "-You can trust me, right? Have I *ever* done you wrong?" His eyebrows move, significantly, when he looks at Mio again - "...See? No problem."> [X] "You're here alone? Or-""Amane-chan's showing me around the festival - She's really nice. You know-"Mio stiffens, slightly - Her brow furrowing, as she glances down and to the side. Kazuya's expression is concerned, now - But confused, aware that he's made a mistake...But not sure what. "-Uh," he finishes, losing the thread of the conversation. "...So - yeah."(Continued)
>>34786258> "Kazuya. She saw you."There's a moment of incomprehension, as Kazuya mentally puts the dots together: then he shrugs, his tone still confused. "Ah, really? I didn't know Natsumi was there, but...We were just talkin-" It takes a while for Kazuya's train of thought to leave the station, but when it does-"...Oh, god. She didn't - She's not taking it the wrong way, is she?" [ ] "...Man, you're pretty dense."[ ] "-Wait, I thought you and Shino..."[ ] "I'm not really sure what to say, actually."[ ] "What do you think?"[ ] "Where *is* Natsumi, anyway?" [ ] "Another one, now? You're pretty popular, Kazuya."[ ] FreeYOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34786199Not to be a dick, but do you even read what the Terminus Scanner does?>>34786222OP, would the Signal Booster's effect be triggered by Carnifex 2?
>>34786272>[ ] "-Wait, I thought you and Shino...">[ ] "Another one, now? You're pretty popular, Kazuya.""Soon, you will know what it's like to be me."
>>34786272>[ ] "-Wait, I thought you and Shino...">[ ] "Another one, now? You're pretty popular, Kazuya."
>>34786272>[ ] "...Man, you're pretty dense.">>34786290>"Soon, you will know what it's like to be me."That is one thing we shouldn't say with Mio around.
>>34786272>"Another one, now? You're pretty popular, Kazuya.">"Where *is* Natsumi, anyway?"
>>34786222>>34786220>>Lucifer Bits increase their power while they are active. This means that the meter drain is even more of an issue for them.Not quite true; their cost stays the same but their damage output goes up while they stay in use. I've gone back and done the comprehensive math from things jqop has let slip in the thread - each lucifier bit is about 3x-4x more powerful, individually, than our current bits.We carry 4 bits instead of 5, due to the size constraints of our interceptor bay. It would also - theoretically - unlock custom bit loadouts for our bay, now that we have options to crossload. This is a possibility JQOP has hinted at before.Additionally, they are significantly tougher, both due to being larger, and also due to being Relics - alone, they are significantly tougheron TOP of that, they're relics, and would have relic modules to make them even better.Remember that time we went burning joker, and our -light drones- got kills by themselves, and we had that holy shit moment where 'shit, if we use these right, and they don't get shot down right away, they're actually good?'Lucifer bits fix literally ALL our problems with the interceptor system for 25%.Including the meter cost. We get 1.2x to meter income, and they hit WAY harder than our current bits - which means more income from damage, which is then multiplied.Basically they're self-sustaining murderbots that can tank, and get meaner the longer they're out.Why WOULDN'T we get these? Holy shit they're amazing.
>>34786272>[X] "What do you think?">[X] "Where *is* Natsumi, anyway?">[X] "Another one, now? You're pretty popular, Kazuya."
>>34786287>Not to be a dick, but do you even read what the Terminus Scanner does?Yeah. its a giant fucking scanning array - that doesn't necessarily have to be used to upgrade things - and could instead of being aimed at a player's essence signature, be aimed at a dead player's signature.It seems pretty straighforward, honestly. Essence is Essence.
>>34786199> JQOP, with the terminus array, can we get hints as to what thegrinder can make out of things now - a probe, basically, without using it up/committing to making someone into an item?(Not yet. I'll consider it for a future upgrade, but the issue is that quality of the item produced by the grinder is also reliant on a die-roll.Gentlemen, there's quite a bit of backreading to do on the research - But I'll remind you that the Solaris Charging Matrix and Mass Drivers are already being researched. I'll wait slightly longer for you to decide on how you want to allocate this episode's research. HOLLOW SUN: 76.6%)>>34786287(Upon consideration - Thinking about it, that wasn't the initial intention of the Carnifex's super mode. But sure, it makes sense for it to trigger, too.)
>>34786311I'm going to vote for Lucifer Bits right now
>>34786323>(Not yet. I'll consider it for a future upgrade, but the issue is that quality of the item produced by the grinder is also reliant on a die-roll.Ooh! Now that is good to know!To clarify; I wasn't asking for spoilers on the grinder - but like, a hint of possibilities would be cool ; and improving the die roll with hollow sun energy to nudge it would be a pretty cool upgrade.
>>34786323We're swinging for the Hollow Sun weapons now, as per >>34785891. There's some talk ongoing about what Leukocyte upgrade to take, but it's either the Distortion Cannon or the Synapse Capacitor.
>>34786358Sign me up for the Cannon. Big boom anywhere we want.
>>34786358>Distortion CannonI like watashiwa's plan of 'snap fingers and cause untraceable explosions' honestly.My vote for things:Lucifer bits: 25% - this is an Immediate Purchase, not research, hold off and see what it unlocksThen, possibilties: Distortion cannon - 25% - assuming that it IS a solution to the leukocyte being discovered when it fires (jqop?)Those induction jets are AMAZING btw.Iunno. Micro-scale suspensors? Red comet AI upgrades? I'd kind of like to see the hellion transformations.Give me a moment to pore over the list
>>34786311>Why WOULDN'T we get these? Holy shit they're amazing.We aren't sure how they interact with potential EVOL upgrades or if they would utilize a separate relic upgrade.
>>34786323>HOLLOW SUN: 76.6%)>>34784732Remove Micro-scale suspensors - leaving 25% free - and substitue lucifer bits in instead, and i'm sold>>34786358Why are we swinging for weapon unlocks, when we never use them in fights?The arm voids all costs and penalties because its a talon Plus, but.... we still enver use them.>>34786420Thats a lame excuse - we never pick either of those upgrades ANYWAY - and can always de-equip relics. Its about the immediate power gain, and being able to throw hollow sun energy at it instead of levelsLucifer bits all the way.
I still think the Quantum Accelerator is awesome, especially since it's the only thing we have seen that converts energy directly into something tangible. Think of the unlock potential of that.
>>34786403You're a bit behind, we already got the Abruption Jets here >>34785379. That's why we're at 75 and change. The plan is to get all the weapon researches we can for the sake of unlocking the Hollow Sun's full potential/seeing everything we can make.This means we're going to be going after the other Hellion upgrades next time if I read the intentions right.>>34786420We know for a fact that they're entirely separate.>>34786438Because we know the weapon researches also unlock Relics and UPGRADE ALREADY EXISTING RELICS/WEAPONS.Oh, and because then we can make our weapons even more tempting as bargaining chips.
>>34786358I'm in agreement with the weapon types.For the additional upgrade, we've got 30%Lucifer bits won't happen, because I would vote for sword bits in that situation, as sword bits are imo more flexible in their usage. They can create a defensive screen, for fuck's sake, and dismantle bigger opponents from their blind spots, by e.g. hiding in some hole in their armor.Plus, they are part of the interceptor system and not a separate relic.For Leukocyte, I prefer Synapse Capacitor, but I totally get Distortion Cannon and won't have a problem with it.I do, however, want to mention the booster for our Argus system...
>>34786403Yeah, I'm in for this.>Distortion Cannon>Lucifer BitsAnd...uh...hell if I know what else. Can't really decide.
>>34786459>Because we know the weapon researches also unlock Relics and UPGRADE ALREADY EXISTING RELICS/WEAPONS.>Oh, and because then we can make our weapons even more tempting as bargaining chips.Also, they empower our Hellions and we only aren't using them because we don't have any additional slots.In fact, there is a certain irony in how >>34786438 wants to remove micro-scale suspensors, as those would make heavy Hellion weapons viable again - Currently, we are instead wearing our chaingun.
>>34786459>Because we know the weapon researches also unlock Relics and UPGRADE ALREADY EXISTING RELICS/WEAPONS.that's actually a point in the lucifer bits favor, because we HAVE relevant research.>Now further enhanced by the integration of Cobalt Laser technology, the Lucifer Bits have enhanced cutting power and cycle rates, allowing for a constant web of fire. Its got permafire! There is now NO reason to use our basic bitsLucifer bitsDistortion cannonWhatever awesome weapon research we can get our hands on.I think thats a tossup between Positron and DisintegratorI wasn't all that impressed by induction blasters on the red comet, but
>>34786485>In fact, there is a certain irony in how >>34786438 (You) wants to remove micro-scale suspensors, as those would make heavy Hellion weapons viable again - Currently, we are instead wearing our chaingun.Actually, this is false for two reasons1)iii) The MIDAS GAUNTLET 'counts as' having a TALON with two charging elements, minus the drawbacks. JQop clarified this includes the attachment time! We can LITERALLY plug and play with heavy weapons now.And... we have an Arsenal Beacon.Additionally, not being able to use weapons on the talon arm.... is also a drawback, which is ignored.In short, we already HAVE a micro-scale suspensor built into our megaman arm.We don't need a third.
>>34786485>- Currently, we are instead wearing our chaingun.Uh.Well crap , JQOP, hook that shit up to the midas arm already. One hand able, gyrostabilized, two elements included? Fuck yeah.
>>34786517>JQop clarified this includes the attachment time! We can LITERALLY plug and play with heavy weapons now.Are you retarded?Carrying a weapon like that, with a swap slot on our back, will permanently disable the arm for anything else, unless we eject the carried gun.
>>34786485Yeah, plus the suspensors are a weapon research, so like Watashi said it might upgrade everyone's ability to carry more heavy weapons.>>34786517Uh... that's not the point he was making. The suspensor lets you equip an extra heavy weapon, while the Talon lets you use a heavy weapon in one hand (with bonuses).
>>34786539>, will permanently disable the arm for anything else, unless we eject the carried gun.Oh no, we sure can afford to lose one plasma vulcan. /sarcasm.But seriously, thats a downside the midas arm doesn't have. We have a megaman arm. >>34786553I still don't see why we need suspensors when we have an arsenal beacon. Its 10% cost to summon a heavy weapon of our choice, slap it into the midas gauntlet, which can then fire it for free. 0% cobalt booster.If we're using hellion weaponry, it would be in the midas arm anyway.But since you guys want it so much, I'm willing to be flexible.Lucifer BitsDistortion CannonTwo weapon researches - Microscale Suspensors, and ???? Positron weaponry?
>>34786581>arsenal beacon.Also keep in mind that we can leave a weapon inside the arsenal beacon's storage compartment.So our true carrying capacity for hellion weaponry is actually a lot more than you guys think it isHip HolsterHip HolsterAnchorBack Heavy or AnchorBeacon Storage CompartmentMidas Internal HardpointWe just need to arrange our inventory more efficiently. We have plenty of storage space already.
>>34786581>But seriously, thats a downside the midas arm doesn't have.Dude, seriously.Stop speaking incoherently.Carrying a gun in the Midas arm will occupy that arm because it changes its shape into the Talon configuration.If we use it as an additional heavy weapon slot (Note: For the purpose of CARRYING), we will lose access to Tau gun, Vulcan, Consume and a few other abilities on the right arm.>>34786581>I still don't see why we need suspensors when we have an arsenal beacon.For the same reason why we have our Chaingun and our Immolator in our weapon slots. It takes TIME to swap out weapons if they aren't already on our body.Plus, the arsenal beacon also costs Cobalt charge.I would suggest you go out and take a breath of fresh air. You seem extremely confused right now.
>>34786581Doesn't look like we're doing the Lucifer Bits this session. There's not enough support. Iirc next thread is supposed to be the "vote for whatever you want" session we've been talking about, so make your case then.And we want the suspensors because then we don't HAVE to spend 10% on a summoned weapon. Yes, the beacon is always available, but there's a time delay on top of the cost, and sometimes you want a bazooka right this second.
>>34786611OP, would you clarify?I actually do wonder how we carry our VAs and if that same could be done to guns.
>>34786290>>34786292> [X] "-Wait, I thought you and Shino..."> [X] "Another one, now? You're pretty popular, Kazuya.""Hey - I suppose I a...Damnit, this is not the time."Kazuya massages his brow with the palm of his head - His expression's priceless, entirely mortified. "Aw, man..." he mutters, a low, dire groan; "-I should tell her..." he begins, then catches himself. "No, that's not going to work..."Mio's watching him with equal parts curiosity and wariness - "...is he all right?" she says, clearly missing the thread of the conversation.>>34786302> [X] "...Man, you're pretty dense.""Yeah, yeah," Kazuya says, unhappily. "-Man."> [X] "Where *is* Natsumi, anyway?""Ah, she's with Yui - Apparently, our play still needs some promotion or something, I don't know." He stops, winces. "...She's probably pretty mad at me, I think. You know how Natsumi doesn't...*tell*...you these things-?"> [X] "What do you think?""I think-""Hey, you're holding up the line!" comes a voice from behind you - At some point, you've been shuffled forward to the velvet curtains draped over the final barrier to the Gallery; Well, since you're already here...You step through. Kazuya gives you a rather trapped look, and follows. -----------------------"Roll up, roll up, excelle-" In his ratty ringmaster's jacket - No top-hat to complete the image, though - the perpetually smiling Renji's just as cheery as ever: He looks fresh as a daisy, never mind that he's spent hours ushering people into the booth, giving them the same spiel as before. The thick stack of golden tickets stubs to one side tells of the success they've been having. "-The two from yesterday. Welcome, gentlemen...And lady," he adds, belatedly, with a brief glance in Mio's direction. Renji's smile never wavers, but it becomes slightly more plastic. (Continued)
I'll vote for Lucifer Bits if the bitfans join me on Micro-Scale Suspensors.
Okay, so how many people are actually AGAINST the proposed weapons research?Let's ignore the talk about satellites and bits. Focus on the weapons mentioned in >>34785891.
>>34786653Yeah, let's just get as many weapons as possible, plus one comet or leukocyte upgrade, like we originally had in mind at the beginning of the entire thread.
Research aside, didn't we want to warn Mio about the autopilot?
>>34786622just because you don't like what i'm saying doesn't mean you need to insult me.First, the tau gun is left-handable, it just takes up two charging elements. We actually have four on the armor right now; since the midas talon is seperate and counts for two. This means we can tau gun AND hailfire at the same time. Think about that.There's no way a bazooka is better than that. We've literally never used it, even when we brought one into a corrector hive.>>34786650You have a deal!>>34786653Nobody's talking about which weapons they actually want, just suspensors. There's been no response on Positron vs Disintegrator - which makes me think people don't actually care about prioritizing weapon research, and just want to block out other options.
>>34786645Aww, poor Utopia Ruler. Don't like feeling the mind of a girl completely in love? I wish Watashiwa were here, he'd laugh himself sick.>>34786653All for the shootbangs and the Leukocyte upgrade there. But I would be, that's my post.
>>34786667By we, I think you mean you.Lucifer bits are actually gaining support>>34786650 >>34786467 are definitely not me, so that's 3 at least who have been persuaded to swap votes.
HOLLOW SUN: 1.6% WEAPON RESEARCH: [X] INDUCTION BLASTERS [X] DISINTEGRATOR CANNON [X] MACHINE CANNON [X] MICRO-SCALE SUSPENSORS [X] POSITRON LANCE LEUKOCYTE UPGRADE:[X] DISTORTION CANNON >>34786633(Specifically, you have:- One Heavy Weapon Slot. (HAILFIRE CHAINGUN)- Two Light Weapon Holsters. (IMMOLATOR and ION BLASTER)- One Void Anchor Slot. (Void Anchor)You could carry an additional Void Anchor at the cost of your Heavy Weapon. When you activate a Heavy Weapon, you use your right arm - The MIDAS GAUNTLET - and the integrated TALON/charging elements to fire it.)
>>34786679That we did, anon, that we did.
>>34786683Yes, I know that we've got four charging elements.We still can't use the Midas arm while it's in Talon configuration.This includes picking up things and punching people.OP, does Joker have a dominant hand?>>34786712Well, that clears it up.Thanks for ending the discussion.
>>34786703Sorry, not interested.
>>34786679Not the time or the place.>>34786703There's at least three against.
>>34786733>There's at least three against.And one who wants sword bits.
>>34786712>>34786703Man, at least take a vote after all the discussion. by my tally>>34786498Bits, cannon, Weapons>>34786467Bits, cannon, Weapons>>34786459Weapons>>34786439Accelerator>>34786344BitsPersonally I think there's merit to everything, but I think weapons are getting enough love, and its a recent fad vs long-running plans from threads ago.
>>34786712Good.So what's the plan with the satellite cannon? We seem to be doing one upgrade a thread. What do we want next for it? I think either the Sensor Array or the Synapse Capacitor.>>34786742And one who wants sword bits. But unless we can swap out bit types at will without going to the Sun, we should only take one kind.
>>34786776>But unless we can swap out bit types at will without going to the Sun, we should only take one kind.It depends.One Lucifer bit with four Sword bits or 2/3 would be an interesting combo.
>>34786712Uh. Seriously, jqop? Did you post without refreshing?
>>34786795He might have been tired of the discussion derailing the entire thread.
>>34786793Only one kind at a time without another Evol upgrade, and good luck passing that.
>>34786806yeah that's fair, but thats also a reason to do it at the end of this thread, or the beginning of next one, not put your foot down and cut it off.
>inb4 Watashiwa shows up wailing about 'muh void anchors'
>>34786776I think Synapse Capacitors are our best bet, unless the research finishes.Then we instead get another Charging upgrade.
>>34786808>>34786793Not quite true. We're actually on the cusp of an interceptor revolution - we just haven't dared to get a second time to unlock crossloading.>>29127989(The Interceptor System is limited by:a) The number of Interceptors you can control at once.b) The point value of Interceptors you can control.Presently, you can control up to five Interceptors at once: However, the different varieties of Interceptor have different costs.For instance, your current 'cap' is 10 -Rifle Bits cost 1.5 point each.Sword and Corsair Bits are 2 points each.Lucifer Bits are 2.5.Exitus Bits are 3.0.Effectively, the system is adaptable enough to host different 'calibres' of Interceptors.) This is why lucifer bits own.We just straight up get 5 better-in-every-way- bits that don't die if sneezed on.
>>34786845>we just haven't dared to get a second time to unlock crossloading.We already planned to get Limiter next.And then Booster.
>>34786765>recent fad vs long-running plans from threads ago.Completely irrelevant. What matters is what gets voted on in each individual thread; we settled that with the interceptor shitstorm years ago.>>34786795It's the right call. Almost everyone expressed interest in the weapons and the leukocyte upgrades, but the bits had only about half of us in favor with others actually opposed.>>34786845Four, not five.
>>34786816...Do people even bother to read what he writes or do they just shitpost?
>>34786874>others actually opposed.Counting opposition votes is dumb, because that turns things into a total shitfest.I'm opposed to weapons because we have enough already, we're spread thing, and we never use them.>>34786863We don't need Evol to unlock custom loadouts. We just need a second bit option. That's the reason the option's never unlocked - Evol changes the base nature of the bit, there's never a second model in play.In order to get custom drone loadout functionality; we need to introduce a second bit and let the armor go 'oh hey! configuring new hardware'.Its not worth spending a level on, but it IS worth 25% hollow sun .Sword bits sound neat, until you realize that all bits are priced the same, and Artifacts will ~always~ beat the Fake Item Hollow Sun armory items.
>>34786950>Sword bits sound neat, until you realize that all bits are priced the same, and Artifacts will ~always~ beat the Fake Item Hollow Sun armory items.You are forgetting that those are modifications.As in, they are our normal bits. Just with swords and Hellion AI instead of rifles.They aren't Hellion weapons.
>>34786645Mio can't help but shuffle closer - Her voice lowered to a half-whisper: > "Anon-kun, you were right-"...as she gives him a dubious look - There's something quite uncanny about him, never mind that he's unfailingly polite. Maybe it's the way he just keeps smiling all the time, until the smile has no meaning...Renji draws a deep breath; He gets as far as "Gaze upon the-" before Kazuya interrupts him, holding up a hand. "Can we just...skip the spiel? Please?" he says - Your friend's in a grumpy mood. "Right now, I just..." Kazuya's voice catches. "...I *really* need to shoot something." There's a long, damned pause - The kind of pause which can go either way - before Renji harrumphs, smoothening down his jacket. "Very well - As we say, the customer is always right, haha." He gestures at the second set of curtains, and they part - Someone's hauling at the cords at either side - to reveal the eerie carousel of lurching animatronics, locked onto the singleminded motion of their tracks. "-As you can see, there are four kinds of targets; The ones at the very front-" brightly-colored bull's-eye symbols, rising and falling in a steady rhythm - "...are the easiest, and worth ten points each. The second row-" moving animal figures on a track "-are worth twenty each. For the discerning gentlemen, the calvacade-" Clowns rocking back-and-forth on their nearly skeletal mounts, an exceedingly difficult target given their distance and their relatively small size - "...is worth thirty." (Continued)
>>34786979At the far, far end, there's a creaking lurch - A vague but familiar figure descends, scooting across the stage. It resembles a metal mask, with a single, glowing red eye...A nice touch, that. "And what's *that* one?" Kazuya asks. "-That, my dear boy-" And Renji's smile seems to wide a little more - "...is the Joker. A rough but elusive beast - Worth no less than fifty points." He settles a gloved hand on the air-guns before you - Each one thoughtfully linked to the stall by a length of chain. "Revolver or rifle - Twelve shots each. The targets will come in two cycles, before we shut them down. Prizes are awarded at the one-hundred point mark...I'm sure you'll find them - adequate." "A rather better quality of award is at two hundred points. And, of course - For those who wish to try their hand at the ultimate challenge - our mystery prize is the princely sum of three hundred and fifty points." "-What's the mystery prize...?" Mio can't help but ask. She seems a little perturbed by the whole setup of the place, eyeing the guns uneasily. Renji turns his pale gaze to her, his painstaking smile lingering: "My dear lady, I couldn't possibly ruin the surprise." Kazuya lifts a revolver in either hand - He's already jammed in the bullets, and you're fairly certain he's just going to blaze away, like a gunslinger. Renji arches an eyebrow, but his mild gaze never wavers: "Now, what would be the gentleman's pleasure?"[ ] "Revolver."[ ] "*Two* revolvers."[ ] "Rifle."[ ] "Actually, I'll have the lady take a turn."[ ] "...On second thought, perhaps another time."[ ] FreeYOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34786950Psst. The Sword bits are a direct modification of the interceptor system.Think of it this way: MOST people expressed interest in some parts of the proposed expenses (weapons and Leukocyte) while only SOME people were interested in bits of any kind. The direct opposition of a handful to the bits need not come into this at all, either way the bits fail to pass.
>>34786974Its a mini-hellion in a drone instead of a robot. Same fake-laser weaponry, et all. Its not that great. and.... I think you're wrong, its an entirely new drone model that's unlocked and manufactured for us, like the guns. see >>34786845If it was our bits, but modified, they wouldn't be seperately sized.And you're forgetting that artifacts get custom artifact modules - we can put a hellion AI in the lucifer bits (if it doesn't have one already)
>>34786997>[ ] "Rifle."
>>34786997(To clarify, Kazuya's splitting his twelve shots between two guns each. He doesn't get twenty-four shots.)
>>34786997We failed with the rifle last time. Time to go with our heart:>[X] "*Two* revolvers.""Hey Kazu, it's that jerk from the Manor."
>>34786997You know, it'd be hilarious to see how Mio fares.>[ ] "Actually, I'll have the lady take a turn."Even if I have a feeling that those prizes might be of interest for us, considering that we are the biggest target...
>>34786997>[ ] "*Two* revolvers."
>>34786997>Joker-kun, why does your daddy let you have *two* revolvers?
>>34787025>And you're forgetting that artifacts get custom artifact modules - we can put a hellion AI in the lucifer bits (if it doesn't have one already)Lucifer Sword bits?NOW you have my interest.
>>34786997>[ ] Free"Well, mio, do you want to find out? I'll take a revolve - TWO revolvers. One for me, and.... one for her. " Turn to mio "If you want to try. You don't have to, if you want to just watch "
>>34787076She doesn't want to do it. Don't force her to.
>>34787076>>34787088Not if you want to win the prize. Besides, she doesn't like this place much.
>>34787025>>34787069>And you're forgetting that artifacts get custom artifact modules - we can put a hellion AI in the lucifer bits (if it doesn't have one already)The upgrade system doesn't work like that at all. The interceptor system as a whole is what is altered by the Foundry options. The Lucifer Bits are a separate upgrade that the options currently there would not affect.If it CAN be upgraded, it'll have its own list that may or may not cross over with the regular interceptor upgrades.
>>34787069yeah. All the shit about unlocking research pays double for lucifer bits.THey get custom Artifact Modules, AND benefit from research.>>34787069Well, fucking vote for them next time! They're amazing! >>34787100>>34787105If she doesn't want to, guys, we take both revolvers, and shot one at a time - or let her have one shot, go 'eh, i did it once, here boyfriend!' and... still outshoot kazuya with 11 rounds.Giving her a choice, and engaging her - making her know we're shooting the teddy bear for HER - is the right move in this date-like sitaution
(Gentlemen, a quick question: So you're selecting two revolvers, and asking if Mio wants one?)
>>34787125>>34787125Its been I while since I have been on the thread but I will vote for lucifer bits. If I see the thread in time.Glad to see you guys have started researching hellions more though. Did you get the thing that lets you summon them yet?
>>34786712Wasn't the vote swayed in favor of Lucifer Bits?
>>34787163...How confident are we about our ability to handle two revolvers?I mean, it's no issue in the Red, but IRL it might be too hard.If we are only confident in handling one, we ask Mio first. If she wants to take a shot, we take two revolvers.Otherwise we take two and then ask Mio.
>>34787180Ah well. They can always be gotten next time
>>34787163Personally not inclined, though making the offer would be nice. I think winning the mystery prize outright is a better idea.>>34787172It's 40 Hollow Sun charge to unlock the ability to summon one type. We've got slightly less expensive things to unlock first.
>>34787180Not at all.
>>34787114Look again. Its in the Relic Module section.Relics only get a single alteration - so no corsair AND sword bits at a single time, for example.Its more of a sidegrade , that we get one of at a time, and can maybe turn off/swap - than an upgrade.Which is, again, a point in favor of the lucifer bits - Its both a straight upgrade, comes with the equivalent of a Mimetic Adaptor, and might actually benefit from interceptor system modules too, because Relics are always awesome.>>34787163Yes.And if she doesn't, we use one, then swap - unless we're badass enough to use two.There's no reason to gunslinger like an idiot, when we can just change to a fully loaded one isntead of reloading.>>34787172No sir. We got pigeonholed into voting for weapons instead :(
>>34787163I think we generally go for the gallant protector appearance rather than egalitarian with Mio. Let's just get down and dirty with the guns ourself.
>>34787194Err, sorry, meant "winning the mystery prize outright and ricocheting the extra shots into the back of Ruler's head" is a better idea.
>>34787163How about no. We want to win.
>>34787210>:(Please get a trip so that we can all filter you.
>>34786323>(Not yet. I'll consider it for a future upgrade, but the issue is that quality of the item produced by the grinder is also reliant on a die-roll.Hey, can we use the terminus scanner to upgrade relics to level 2? Now that argent isn't taking our calls, and getting ready to die, we don't really have a relic upgrade service anymore. Seems like the kinda thing it would be good at
>>34787210> :(Stop that.And no, you weren't pidgeonholed, you were outvoted outright.
>>34787163Just start gunning. Don't use both revolvers at once if it's difficult.
>>34787194>>34787210Well at least the charge seems to be building faster these days and I cant find it in my heart to be mad or disappointed at more guns.
>>34787244There was no vote, anon. It was a bunch of people shitposting.
>>34787250At least fucking commit to using them in battle.We've used literally two of them ever.
>>34787253We don't do final destination style voting on upgrades. Or talking. Or on combat decisions. Instead we vote with our discussion, and the discussion was in favor of weapons and upgrading the satellite and much less in favor of bits.I'm sorry that you didn't get what you wanted. Please get over it.
>>34787263Don't worry. We'll be using a heavy weapon after the research.Also, the Hellion weapons aren't the only ones that we barely use.Just look at our Vulcans. They've been completely overshadowed.We really need more level-ups...
>>34787263We can always give them to the hellions. Plus it gives us the opportunity to do an even longer Russian joker vendor joke. What thread was that again? That was roughly where I last participated.
>>34787326Episode guide's still in the OP.
>>34787326>That was roughly where I last participatedHoly shit, you missed shittons of stuff.Have you been reading the threads?
>>34787237Filter is a cancer. Entitled assholes who are too babied to grow a thick skin.>>34787308We need less levelups, really. the problem is we're so totally spread thing.What we really need is to do Kamen Rider style weapon swapping, and use the best one for any given target. That being said, I'm okay with the vulcans being overshadowed. they're pretty good, and they're better when boosted; but we have other options that don't take meter, or booster to be good.Double Tau Gun with Emulation is currently a favorite.Being able to one-hand heavy weapons now is going to be a game-changer though.I think the gravity cannon's going to make a resurgence, because lets face it, its hard to dodge when you're fighting gravity - and it makes other weapons better.
>>34787381Wait, you LIKE obsolete weapons?
>>34787034>>34787046>>34787065>>34787066> "*Two* revolvers.""-It's all the rage, I suppose," Renji murmurs, as an aside. "Very well! Gentlemen, *prepare!"...He's kind of got that master-of-ceremonies voice going on again. Your hands curl around the grips of the weapons - They're surprisingly heavy pieces, pieces that look disturbingly real: You're not sure if this is entirely legal, to tell the truth. Still, they're not that poorly balanced - Though you won't have any idea how well they work, until you're actually firing. "Anon-kun, good luck~" Mio says - She's taking an interest, now, though there's vaguely bemused 'Boys will be boys' expression to her...As if she'll never understand the universal male fascination with weapons. "Good luck, she says," Kazuya sighs - He shoots you a sidelong glance. "...That makes me kind of jealous, actually." Still, he's smiling again - His fingers twitching hungrily on the triggers. "-I'll go easy on you, Anon. Don't want to embarass you in front of Mio, and all..."...Yep, he's just going to blaze away. ROUND 1: SHOTS - 6 [ ] Targets - 10 points. (Difficulty: Easy)[ ] Animatronics - 20 points. (Difficulty: Normal)[ ] Clowns - 30 points. (Difficulty: Hard)[ ] Joker - 50 points. (Difficulty: Very Hard.)(Gentlemen - The following is a minigame. Please allocate your first six shots accordingly.)YOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34787376Nope. But I am assuming that things got worse, we got dismembered several more times and there were many silly decisions regarding pretty lady's which may or may not have come back to kick us in the teeth yet.I'm going to get around to it eventually.
>>34787381Boosting doesn't increase vulcan damage, it increases their armor penetration.
>>34787415One Joker 5 Animatronics
>>34787415Okay, just reading up the explanation again.
>>34787419haha holy shit, someone catch this guy up(Gentlemen - The following is a minigame. Please allocate your first six shots accordingly.)> Though you won't have any idea how well they work, until you're actually firing. Ranging Shot time - the first bullet to get a sense for the gun. YOu fire it, and after that have a *sense* for it. Its a real thing, and prevalent for snipers - and that's the joker's modus.1: Animatronics. ranging shot - targets are too easy, and we like a challenge.2: Clowns. Walk the fire.3: targets. easy shot, waiting to draw a bead...4: Bag that joker when it pops up. Right in the head.5: Clowns6: Clowns or animatroncs, depending on how many are still up
>>34787415Shoot the Joker twice and go for the clowns four times.Remember to breathe out and hold when you shoot, and aim for where they're going to be.
>>34787415Let's see.There are two passes.There is one Joker in each pass.300 is the biggest price. We have twelve shots in total, six per pass.We would need six Jokers to get to 300.Or ten Clowns. If we miss two clowns, we are fucked. If we miss one, we can compensate with two Animatronics.So, aim all six shots at clowns.
>>34787419Just note that we are now eating for two.
>>34787477This guy used logic. I'm >>34787472 and suggest following his advice with the ranging shot mixed in.
>>34787424Yes, and?Reducing armor mitigation increases damage that otherwise would be there?Also higher velocity means more trauma, and force impacted to target.Don't just spout pasta, think about how it works.The end result is that boosted vulcans DO do more damage.
>>34787461Ranging shot at an easy target is a good idea.Let's aim for 300 points, though.If we get one or two Jokers, we'll have a good edge.So, seconding your suggestions.
>>34787477>our mystery prize is the princely sum of three hundred and fifty points.We're going to need to do a little better than that.>>347874151 Anamatronic to get a sense for how it fires, then the next 5 at Clowns, switching as many shots as possible over to Jokers if they pop up near where our gun is already sighted. Having to whip our aim around to re-focus on a Joker is going to throw us off our game, so make the Jokers targets of opportunity.
>>34787510>the point>your postCongratulations, you confirm the worst stereotypes about Joker Quest players.
>>34787477>>34787514I feel like these guys have a plans - clowns are a right move, but there's just a satisfaction in nailing a joker - and... we have two spare bullets. If we miss a clown, well, we can always nail a joker, right?Its kinda like.... fate, for the joker to be bagging himself :0
>>34787535>We're going to need to do a little better than that.Shit.I really want that price.>inb4 "Now I will save you TWICE, Joker!"
>>34787461Ill read over it on my own. I only came to look at the upgrades right now, I'm not even reading the story.>>34787486There are a lot of things that could mean, so I am going to assume the worst and guess that some horrible monster impregnated Joker.
>>34787544>:0We told you to cut that out.
>>34787553>There are a lot of things that could mean, so I am going to assume the worst and guess that some horrible monster impregnated Joker.To be fair, it's only our soul that got impregnated.We are now incubating a golden pimp hand.
>>34787561There are worse things to be incubating.
>>34787553Remember the ultimate armor in the Hollow Sun? It's replaced the Helix Gauntlet with the Gauntlet of Midas, and it's going to get stronger as Joker does.
>>34787542What, that they play dota?DPS through armor-reduction is, like, the most common video game thing.
>>34787461Go with this one, actually.
>>34787575>DPS through armor-reduction is, like, the most common video game thing.It really depends on the specific armor system.Not all armor systems work as damage reduction. Some flat-out ignore damage.In those systems, there are plenty of unarmored targets. Against those targets, there is no point in using armor penetrating weapons.Worst case, armor types are used, which have rock-paper-scissors interactions. In those systems, armor-penetrating weapons over-penetrate when attacking an unarmored target. This means that they actually do less damage.
>>34787561Could you stop with the meme spouting? Even if it's internal and most of us get you it still sounds retarded, like the hat thing. It's dumb as fuck.
>>34787542Uh, hate to break it to you, but that's actually not arguing over which anime chick is best girl or not
>>34787461>>34787477Alright. Fusion plan go.Clown (ranging)ClownJokerClownClown Clown?+/- some leeway to JQOP's rule of cool, the situation, and the plans that went itno this?
>>34787614The worst stereotype is that they don't read.
>>34787632Actually, I think the system might grant us modifiers depending on how hard the chosen progression is.This means that we have to keep up a flow. Using a simple target before firing at the Joker sounds like a good idea, because it's easier than doing two hard shots after another.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6b_lSQst0Clowny clown clown!
>>34787593Switching quickly from the closest range target to the farthest between 3-4 is an absolutely terrible plan.It'd end up getting us 50% of the way to our point total if we aced it, but from an actual shooting standpoint it's impractical.>>34787632We'd be fine starting out with a couple automata and scaling up to Clowns/Jokers once we have a feel for it, but any changes in range should be done gradually.
>>34787633Excuse me, but I'm illiterate. Could you make a vocal recording of your post so I can listen to it?
>>34787650(Gentlemen, my sincerest apologies. There's a substantial backlog of posts - I lost the connection for a moment - and there are many, many permutations of shots.Would you mind if, alternatively - Each of you voted for one bullet, and I took the first six posts?)
>>34787664and put on a trip so I can filter it, too?
>>34787682I guess we can do that.First needs to be the ranging shot, though.And everyone remember the 350 goal. We need at least one Joker to make this doable.
>>34787664At least we can usually be counted on to have a sense of humor.>>34787691Though there are always exceptions.>>34787682I'd ask that you go with >>34787477 if you don't mind.
>>34787709>I'd ask that you go with >>34787477 (You) if you don't mind.Eh, that's based on a 300 goal.Turns out that 350 is our goal. So we need a different plan.
>>34787682Just run with >>34787477. No point in doing another vote, there's broad agreement.
(Gentlemen, to clarify, there isn't a limit to the number of times that the Joker shows up. It is simply an extremely difficult target to hit.This may have been a mistake, and I apologize for slowing things down.)
>>34787682I think there's pretty substantial agreement - do a ranging shot at an easy target - but try to play to WIN.Whether that comes from going for clowns, and making up misses with easier targets, or getting ahead with a shot at the joker.... really, its just a matter of how risky we're feeling, and I trust JQOP to understand the vibe and minigame better than us.no need to target bullets individually. Just go for a theme instead?>>34787726as he says, 350 - to win the ultimate prize - needs two jokers, one in each pass, and some other stuff.Upvote and quote if you're down
>>34787701Theoretically we could get it with one anamatronic and 11 clowns, but the minimum-risk plan isn't really a Joker-y way of going about things.Except for the part where we shoot a lot of clowns, I guess.>>34787682I think there's a pretty clear consensus that we start out by establishing how the gun fires with something mid-range and then slowly go for longer-range targets, sticking mostly to Clowns and occasional Jokers once sighted.
>>34787743>(Gentlemen, to clarify, there isn't a limit to the number of times that the Joker shows up. It is simply an extremely difficult target to hit.I don't see how that changes our plan>>34787477except with going for Jokers when we have a good opportunity instead of Animatronics; to get 350 we'd need to land all 12 shots on clowns (360 total), and that means going for clowns exclusively, and nothing else - or bagging a joker just cuz and making up the difference
>>34787726Ah, true, misread the line about six Jokers. We're going to need to hit several.>>34787744>Upvote and quoteJesus just stop.
>>34787763>Except for the part where we shoot a lot of clowns, I guess.alright, i laughedfucking joker quest, turning canival games into an intense strategic planning session.
>>34787477(All right, I'll go with this one. Locking in, gentlemen: Give me a moment to make the rolls.)
>>34787802good luck and good shooting, tex! I'm on the edge of my seat here. Just think of all that booty awaiting us!
>>34787780Going for ten clowns and two Jokers is safer than twelve clowns. With twelve clowns we're SOL if we miss even one, but with ten clowns and two Jokers we can miss one.
>>34787800Anything in this quest might influence the end of the world.Girls, graffiti, carneval games...
>>34787843Yeah, true. Bring out your best booty gifs to sway the dice gods and appease the questmaster, then!
>>34787860It once worked in Fate/Stay Again, but I'm not eager to try it here.
>>34787926We fucking told you the Whores of Babylon thing was coincidence the first time. Remind me how many failures it took before you admitted it?
>>34787802I will say, I like the message that staring straight at Renji and shooting six clowns in a row sends.
>>34787959Wait, what?I remember that phrase from another quest, but i'm not the guy behind it.It had something to do with the tgdice, though, which i'm fairly certain JQop doesn't use himself, so .... not actually relevant?just because someone posted butts doesn't mean its a whore, anon
>>34787996He was referring to me.I made a joke about summoning the dice gods with "whores of babylon" in Fate/Stay Again.Funnily enough, it worked the first few times. So I suspected that the system might be influenced by images.Further testing proved that it wasn't true.
>>34787802You level the revolver, drawing a bead on the target - It's strange how different it is from the Red World. Players don't need to breathe, and the awareness of your form is a distant, icy thing...CRACK.Your first shot goes wide - The revolver pulls a bit to the left. CRACK. CRACK. CRACKYou compensate. Your next two shots - In rapid succession - riochet off the clowns, making them articulate rigidly; their arms spreading in ghastly death-convulsions, made all the more so by their stiffness. It's distracting, and your third shot goes wide - The revolver, you realize, isn't quite as good at long range.CRACK.A glancing hit, but it still counts. The round skips off the bars, cracks against a grinning clown, and pinballs merrily into the depths of the gallery.CRACK.Your last shot is perfectly placed - It riochets off a clown's lurid skull, and sets the carousel ringing. (4 hits - 120 points.) The revolver clicks empty - It doesn't actually have a hammer, but the sound is a close approximation. The world seems to blur before your field of vision - Kazuya's alternating shots, both guns raised...He's probably doing it more for the novelty than anything else, to be honest, though you hear the brassy crash of a direct hit on the Joker. Reality shimmers at the edges- -Not *now*- But the call is inexorable, and the Red comes surging in like a tide. The Shroud is thin, here; The bleedthrough comes in the space between one breath and the next - The spires of Arcadia shimmering into existence around you, a brief, confused sensation of falling- Then the grand CRASH of demenses colliding, like God playing dice with the world. All else vanishes in a haze of emerald light, before your HUD can do more than register the high-energy buildup- (Continued)
>>34788045>like God playing dice with the world
>>34788045See?We should have told Mio.Well, we can still tell her afterwards.Fuck, this is the Bishamon fight, isn't it?
>>34788078He totally does--they're just loaded.
>>34788045WE'RE ZONING OUTI FUCKING TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>34788045That's pretty rough; we'd need to hit at least 3 Jokers next round to even have a chance at the grand prize, and a 4th Joker to not have to go 6/6....Unless it doesn't matter and we wake up from this fight having already finished our shooting gallery. If Zoned-out Kouichi is a calm and collected Kendo god, maybe Zoned-out Anon will pick up the slack.
>>34785106Who the fuck is Calcite Arrow?
>>34788273IIRC He's the guy who shot a pillar at us during the Smiler raid.
>>34788273STAGE: TIR NA NÓGBeneath your feet - White tile. On all sides - Raised walls of white marble, several meters thick, ringed by curving spikes so barbed and rethwart that the resemble the inside of a bear-trap. In your ears - Cheers. No, more than cheers - Chanting. They're chanting a name- "-GIS, AE-GIS, AE-GIS-"The stands are filled with spectators - Vague humanforms, genderless, faceless, very much like the simulation bodies. They're half-cohered, like overlapping shadows given form but not feature - But they cheer all the same, a great roar coming up as a shadow spreads across the ground...Adamant Aegis lands, retro-thrusters flaring, the backwash of his descent sweeping the proud crimson of his cape around him, like the great flag of himself. He is regal in silver and red and gold, optic sensors glowing behind the raised grille of his helmet - His lance in one hand...-But it's his shield that captures your eye, first. It is almost as large as himself, bearing the grand shape of his Hyades Emblem: You can hear the slight hum of suspensors when he hefts it, which tells of the sheer strength it takes to lift. The symbol is repeated on the unbroken ground below, ebony against white - A rather grandiose gesture, you can't help but think."Joker." His voice is brassy - Unseen speakers capture his words, and blast them at you from all directions in a wave of sound. JOKERTHERE IS A TIMEFOR ALL THINGSThe sound is too vast to be called speech: It is as if the entire arena itself is roaring at you.A TIME FOR PEACEA TIME FOR WARA TIME TO LOVE AND A TIME TO KILL(Continued)
>>34788300>silver and red and goldHey, he has almost all of our colors!
>>34788300My god, imagine if we had the Distortion Cannon already.
>>34788300But Aegis... love IS war.
>>34788300Fire crawls along the outer rim of the Colosseum - Climbing, converging into a giant burning arrow: An arrow that points exactly at where he stands, as Adamant Aegis's helmet locks in place. As the crowd dies down to a mutter, so does his voice - Which sounds oddly embryonic without the boost."Joker - None have breached this shield.""-Will you be the one?"HP: 259.2%COBALT BOOSTER: 150%ASSAULT SHROUD: 150%METER: 15%TIER ONE WEAPONRY UNLOCKEDYOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34788381Argus scan him first. What are his energy readings? I have two ideas, both nasty. If we get high energy readings from the shield, then activate Sotto Voca and blow it up.If not, then "Adamant Aegis, Exec_Dictum: Pirouette." And activate the Axel Grips to cut off his legs while his back is turned.
>>34788381This guy is completely bonkers."So, you stand still while I try to break your shield? Is that the deal?"If not, boost back with our new thrusters. Then start shooting with dual Taus.Though Vulcans are more likely to get an incidental hit. We need something that goes around the shield...Interceptors could come in handy later on.
>>34788426I believe we have our first target for the AEW.Better test the waters first, so pull out Double Tau and shoot.
>>34788490He wants to use Leukocyte.
>>34788426>"Joker - None have breached this shield.">>"-Will you be the one?"It's not a super-light, super-strong alloy; it's a big, strong, heavy bulwark, and he's relying on the strength of his frame to use it properly. Disabling his ability to maneuver with his shield is as good as eliminating the shield. We don't need to breach it if we can make it a liability.Deploy Bits, have them circle around and focus fire on the joints of the limb holding up his shield. Make him turn to deal with them, or get eaten up from afar.Blasting through isn't going to be doable head-on.
>>34788426Yell out, "Dammit, people! I'm on a fucking date here!">Engage Leukocyte
>>34788455Fuck that noise. Let's, just once, for fucks sake NOT play the other guys game? >And Brave Sir Joker RAN AWAY!Make him come to us.
>>34788516I wonder if we could remove his head with EXEC_SMITE...Though I'd wager that indirect attacks are better than hitscan here.AEW makes sense if the dude barely moves.
>>34788552Yes, let's use our super-weapon and give away information about ourselves.Or, maybe not? Perhaps we should gauge the situation first?
>>34788552Absolutely not, to both.
>>34788552You know, that would be fucking hilarious.But first we need to know more about his style.
>>34788490Kinetic Anti-Emplacement Weapon. I'm not saying we should, but it would be interesting to mark his shield, stop him with Exec_Dictum and see if he can block an orbital strike.
>>34788554This. We've got range, he doesn't. Lets bring all guns to bear and just move backwards. Play this smart.Only go in when we have the annihilator ready to roll out.
>>34788560Let's save the AEW for when it can't be tracked. Not on some gimmick ass mid-level schmuck.Out-defend him, see what he has when people aren't trying to break his shield. Maybe an opening appears when he attacks.
Taking a shower now.Please don't die and don't waste the essence that we could be earning.
>>34788560No it doesn't. The AEW will blow away the entire stage, us included. It even says in the description that using it at close range is a dumb move.
>>34788589Well, we don't know WHAT he has. But take the hit and counter-attack is his obvious go-to. But we're the Joker, we dick around. At the least, we can build up charge while we do it. If we draw it out a bit and play it conservatively, we can nuke him with our regular shit. Singularity, much?>Build up infinite charge by attacking the shield from range!
>>34788621Singularity would take away all the delicious essence and I think we're just about to get a level-up.
>>34788440Seconding these. Do not be baited. Do not use Leukocyte in close quarters.
>>34788621>Draw it out>not realizing we're losing points with Mio as we zone out
>>34788621Yeah. Crowd Control.Pin him down, but don't press him. The only strike that matters is the one that knocks him out. Also, keep in mind Sybil powers. Fucking haxxxxx.Remember that time we fought a city full of guys because we were morons?
>>34788643We haven't lost Mio points before. If anything, we're LESS of a fuck-up when we're absent from ourselves.>In b4 how we do here, determines how we do on our date.
>>34788643Time doesn't flow in a linear way within the Red. This fight could last hours and we'd be back in the Real within seconds or spend 3 minutes nuking the guy and return an hour later. There is no way to control it.
>>34788621>But we're the Joker, we dick around.No we don't. That gets us killed in stupid ways and makes us look dumb.
>>34788672Yes, but our actions in the red have an effect on our "luck" IRL.Like I said, let's play this smart and WIN THE SECRET PRIIIIIIIZE!
Hey, uh... why is no one suggesting we scan the guy? See what his strengths are? >>34788440 is the only person thinking about it.
>>34788673Dick around = Do unpredictable shit that makes people scream "Hax!" Sometimes, it's stupid it turns out. So far, though, it's mostly been awesome.
>>34788673Not really. Joker has always been an entertainer that snarked his way through battles. It's not dicking around that fucks us over, but making bad decisions. The two are not one and the same.
>>34788722Scan, evade, and harass at range. No reason we can't do all three at once.
>>34788723You... haven't actually been paying attention have you.
So, why are we not starting things off by scorching our Joker symbol onto his shield?
>>34788736It's when we don't dick around we get our asses handed to us. I repeat, remember the time we tried to fight an entire city?>>34788739 adding vote to this.
>>34788741Don't shit up the thread, tinydick. We got a battle to fight. Do you have any suggestions, or . . . .?>>34788749 I like it. Lets see what happens!
>>34788693It's not our actions that affect "luck", but how much essence we lose and gain in battle. In that case, staying at safe range to take less damage while dealing more is beneficial.
>>34788788I've made two suggestions. >>34788440
Fuck this guy, we don't have time for this. Burning Joker, emulate Immolator, and pound him into the ground with boosted ap rounds.
>>34788440Your Argus Sensor sweeps across him, for an initial reading - To the system, Adamant Aegis is lit up from within. There is an absurdly high-energy reading in his lance; It appears to have it's own internal reactor, something battleship-class. His cloak, too, holds a significant charge...Or perhaps it's just the reason why his cape billows dramatically around him as he turns. His shield is a black hole. Nothing gets through - It is made of some superdense material, a material that actually warps the fabric of time and space around him...It might be solid adamantite, as befits his name. You can't read anything about it - Though the primary reactor in his torso, the secondary reactor next to his spine, both have the high output you'd expect from an advanced Player. >>34788455>>34788462>>34788550The Emulator module pulses - The blunt, brutal ingot of your Tau Gun sketching itself into existence, the solid weight settling into your grasp. The Tempest Scrander at your back ignites, as your fists close around the grips of original and copy alike - Levelling them squarely at Adamant Aegis...You fire. The air blurs, as twin antimatter projectiles cross the distance - A distorted ripple, a half-seen blast that makes reality scream in opposition- Adamant Aegis heaves his shield into position. He's not making any attempt to evade: He's taking the attack head-on. With a stationary target, you can't miss - You can actually *see* them converge in the split-second before impact, the sheathing of the twin blasts gouging deep furrows into the tiles underfoot...-Then nothing.Nothing. You *hit* him, but - No explosion. Your shots are just *gone.*>>34788554>>34788589"Very well, Joker - I come for you!"(Continued)
>>34788758We misdirected his attention to a warehouse we vacated while we infiltrated his underground base.Remember what happens when we DO dick around? Kraken, both times and Ixion. We only won all of those fights because OP softballed it.
>>34788865Hmm...ya know, this might be interesting.Let's build up charge and see what happens when the Singularity Cannon hits his shield.
>>34788921Only the fact you posted that picture convinces me you're not actually that dumb.
>>34788939Oh no, I am. I'm just that weird type of dumb that is fully aware the idea is stupid.I'm genuinely curious. Like a cat or some shit.
>>34788960>>34788939Can we come up with a good plan now? Maximum Joker seems like a good idea.
>>34788960That's the best kind of dumb. Like wondering what happens if we accidentally get caught in the Tachyon Disintegrator beam, thereby removing ourselves from the timestream and unfiring the Tachyon Disintegrator.
>>34788865Thrusters at Aegis's back ignite - His cloak scattering apart in a swirl of motes, a crimson cloud that spreads out before him. Even individual particle registers on your Argus system, like a haze of chaff: Keeping coherence until they drift out of range, like petals born on the breeze.Adamant Aegis accelerates. His speed is shocking: There's a clap as he breaks the sound barrier. But his linear charge makes him predictable - He's going to come at you like a charging bull, and you know it. Your Abruption Jets fling you to the side, as your Tau Guns cycle - The charging coils already building the next shot. The tracking lasers sear across the distance, before he can recover; They slash lines into his armor, as he rockets past - But when you fire again, he swings his shield into place- BRAKKNothing - Again! Your shots simply vanish in the instant before contact - Aegis's lance stabbing out in your direction, the span of the arena away. The hideous high-energy hum builds, builds..."SING, GARUDA!"You're already moving, as - From far, far away - there is a small, bright *flash*. A tiny dot of the purest light, incandescently bright: Growing bigger, bigger, brighter and longer and closer, until you can see that it's the flaming edge of huge expanding blast, a pillar of hungry sunfire- Your Interceptors flit into the air like knives, spiralling towards Adamant Aegis - Tempest Scrander burning with momentary blue flame, afterburners hurling you away, ahead of the death-blast...And then there's the electronic squeal of feedback, as your Interceptors - All of them - are engulfed. A deep, hideous gouge appears in the ground, and the far wall explodes: A hail of marble chunks riocheting out in every direction at once, rebounding from the crackling wedge of your Sinistral, slowed by your inertia field - One of them clangs hollowly from your helmet, another off your pauldron, your limbs stinging with strength as you surge to safety- (Continued)
>>34788987Maximum Joker is only useful if we're forced into close Combat. As of now we should use our new knee thrusters to maneuver around the field while testing his abilities and defenses.
>>34788987It's an even worse idea. If we close and he can do to us what he can do to the shots, he wins.The high energy readings all over him convinces me that both parts of >>34788440 are good ideas.>>34788993We'd be removed from the timestream and the Tachyon Disintegrator would have been fired. We simply would have ceased to exist before the beam struck.>>34789030Banning Tau Gun for the rest of the fight. Not working.
>>34789041>Close combatGuys, the best thing we can do right now is get inside of his guard. Get between him and his shield, and he won't be able to do a damn thing.
>>34789078Except use the shield to erase Joker if he touches us with it.We're fast, but not THAT fast.
>>34789030He was aiming at your Interceptors. More, he was *deliberately* aiming at your Interceptors - Ensuring he got them all - instead of sweeping the blast across to engulf you. The beam dies away, as Aegis growls beneath his breath - His silver armor gleaming in the light, as he turns to face you through a haze of vaporized stone. "Come, Joker!" The rim of his shield grinds against the ground. His lance fizzles, smoking as the fusion cartridge discharges - It continues to glow red-hot, as he lowers it. A one-shot weapon? A hold-out? Either way, he's not going to be doing that again.Heat-warnings flicker on your HUD - You've evaded most of it, his great blast falling short- "-Come, and kill me if you can!"HP: 242.6%COBALT BOOSTER: 127%ASSAULT SHROUD: 126%METER: 18%INTERCEPTORS DESTROYEDYOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34789095He's obviously protected from that effect on his side of it, else it'd be impossible to use the damn thing. Besides, he risks himself just as much as us with that maneuvar.As for fast...well, we got some upgrades for that, I think.
>>34789078Joker is not a good CQC fighter, genius. The best we can hope to do is DOUBLE HAMMER him with the Midas Gauntlet and a Crisis Arm. And he may be though enough to get up after that. We need to check if his shield works against Kinetic weapons first.
>>34789112Hmm...throw a Swarm at him. It'll blind him, and then we can use our new boosters to get between him and his shield. His things will be useless then.
>>34788664>We haven't lost Mio points before. If anything, we're LESS of a fuck-up when we're absent from ourselves.Actually, whenever we're around mio, the correctors show up to team-battle with us.So.... combined with our glimpse of the red, she may actually be spectating.
>>34789112(Gentlemen, my apologies. I forgot the image.)>>34789123(You can actually use the Emulator module to clone the Crisis Arm - So you can punch someone with two Crisis Arms at once.)
>>34789041Where the fuck is it stated that its CC only? Right now we need speed to get around that shield and guns that don't have a delayed fire. Ditch the Tau, engage the carnifex, and start pouring the Immolator or the plasma on his back.
>>34789095Wait, it's like in Aldnoah Zero?We need to confirm.Shoot the Vulcan at him. Test if the shots disappear.>>34789112We need more Meter.I second the idea of making him turn around and then shooting the Axel Grips at his legs and arms.
>>34789123Actually, he is. He was a full on melee h2h specialist as Frost Cestus. We get between him and the shield, we can start beating on him because in one hand, giant, heavy, then useless shield, in the other, a giant, heavy, long range lance.
>>34789139>(You can actually use the Emulator module to clone the Crisis Arm - So you can punch someone with two Crisis Arms at once.)Doesn't the Midas Gauntlet already incorporate the abilities of the Crisis Arm?
>>34789173(Yes, but the Midas Gauntlet is on the same arm as your Helix Gauntlet/Crisis Arm. It's all incorporated into one package.)
>>34789112He's trying to draw Joker into melee combat, which seems like a FANTASTICALLY BAD IDEA. Use the jets to get around him, and activate Sotto Voca to blow up the lance.>>34789138Hellebore is the one controlling Megaera.
>>34789135Swarm is a good idea, as long as we can get it to avoid the shield.Otherwise it would be like one of those moth traps. We don't want to waste charge on that kind of futility.>>34789143Carnifex might be a good idea.His attacks are clearly of the absolute kind. Any hit will murder us, even if he can't do that fire thing again.
Gentlemen, this fight is clearly set up to make us test our fighting style and re-think our approach.Against an impenetrable shield, we have two choices: Get rid of the shield, or use AOE attacks to get by it - or lots of spammy attacks to plink past it.So.Take a moment and think of what to use.
>>34789170Both are probably not problems for a machine man built around them.
>>34789112Well. Fuck. There go our main weapon that attacks from multiple angles. What else do we have? Let's think 3-dimensional here. Also - burning Joker mark onto his shield?
>>34789192My point exactly. Just use it to provide cover.
>>34789170Why are you underestimating his ability to control his territory? Do you think he's actually that incompetent when he's been named as one of the champions who could win this competition AND beat Joker?
>>34789030>He's going to come at you like a charging bull, and you know it. Your Abruption Jets fling you to the side, as your Tau Guns cycle - The charging coils already building the next shot. The tracking lasers sear across the distance, before he can recover; They slash lines into his armor, as he rockets past - But when you fire again, he swings his shield into place- If we want to use heavy weapons we need to hit him from two directions simultaneously; he's proven capable of snapping his shield around to intercept our shots with anything slow-firing.>>34789112I'd be interested in dropping a couple Chain Mines spaced out slightly and then circling around to pincer him between us and the incoming mines. Either he blocks them all individually and lets us hammer away at him with our ranged weapons or he lets them in and gets blasted in the back.>>34789135Swarm's an interesting plan, and probably gets around his shield well.
>>34789170I seriously doubt that he has such a glaring weakness.
>>34789194I'm waiting for a charge to use the chain mine.Until then...Immolator and Tau. Shoot one on the ground to his right, the other on his left. Force him to move his shield such that it can only defend one side.
>>34789204>Also - burning Joker mark onto his shield?The shield will likely absorb it as well. We should aim for the joints of his Shield arm to dismember him and leave him defenseless.
>>34789204Make images with our shroud thing to fuck with him? Pretend to charge in close then fake him out and dodge around him and shoot him in the back?What this guy says?>>34789238
>>34789204>Also - burning Joker mark onto his shield?I bet you it won't connect.>>34789214We can't use Chain Mines, they're still locked.>>34789238Fucking hell, no. No Tau Gun.
>>34789217It seems like exactly the kind of weakness he'd have. He's minmaxed everything for speed and firepower. He's a walking fortress, and thinks he's invincible because he can always win any battle at range, since most people would be intimidated by his heavy armaments. Noone expects a melee fight when they have that kinda gear.>>34789212Yes. Noone can be versatile with that kind of setup. He's specialized for fighting everything we've done so far. Melee isn't something we normally do.>>34789201Says who?
>>34789194Ante-up to this:Most of our AOE weapons are later-meter. We need to inflict damage to get meter; t unlock our explosive weapons.So. I have it.Break out the Gravity Gun via arsenal beacon, hook it up to the Midas, and just pull the trigger until it gives - then throw it at him.Use gravity against him.Start the battle on the Hyades demense level to try to counter his shield.Can neutralize his shield/powers with codebursts at a critical moment.
>>34789253Get airborne for harder angles to defend from?
>>34789190Yes, use Sotto Voca. High energy reactions=big explosions.
>>34789266>No Tau Gun.Tau gun explodes.Tell me the name of a different exploding weapon without additional costs. I would gladly use something else.The basic idea is AoE damage to his feet from two sides.
>>34789238Yeah, forgot that it was 20%. I still think Chain Mines are our best bet for damage/meter once they're online, especially since we can drop one if he charges us will charge directly into the middle of its cloud of cluster bombs.>>34789293>Tell me the name of a different exploding weapon without additional costs.Secondary-fire Immolator explodes as well.
>>34789279Please let us deduce the properties of his shield before we rush in.We need to know if it dissolves matter and how quickly it can snap around.Also, don't forget that it's fucking heavy. He might have arms strong enough to bitchslap us.
>>34789284>>34789190I agree on the Sotto Voca plan.>>34789279That would be naive and reckless. You should never rely on your opponents hypothesized stupidity to help you win the battle.
>>34789279Says logic. If he is built around his shield and his lance and he got this far then it stands to reason he can fight with them without a problem. Especially since he is inviting us to attack him.
>>34789293Gravity Cannon. With a midas talon, it even fires faster.Missiles.We could use maser pistols.But baiting him into charging us, using disrupt, and getting good backshots - or making his power cells rupture/lose charge - seems like a good bet. Bait an opening and take advantage of it.
>>34789293It has a limited effective range. To quote:>A direct hit does *hideous* damage, but it's hampered by a heavy reliance on accuracy (The affected area is relatively small) and long recharge times.It's not going to work.
>>34789314>Secondary-fire Immolator explodes as well.Yes, genius, THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.I'm asking you what OTHER weapon we are supposed to use. We can't emulate the Immolator because it's a relic.Also, I'd add a third prong: MissilesOP, can we control the arc of the missiles? Can we tell them to fly high and attack from his back while we shoot at his front?
>>34789284Let's try the Sotto Voca. Maybe his lance and or reactor will detonate
>>34789333He's inviting us to shoot at him, which is all we've done. My guess is he takes the energy from whatever hits the shield and ferries it into his spear, sending it back a hundred-fold.
>>34789284>>34789304Go with these. We cannot take him on head on. We simply cannot.
>>34789284I like Sotto VocaOverloading the reactor in his Lance would be great, since it means we probably won't get Phoenixed again.>>34789356>tl;dr - The Emulator Module can create a perfect duplicate of any weapon you can hold in one hand. This applies to Hollow Sun firearms, the Immolator and the Nova CannonHoly shit, dude. Calm down.
>>34789356>OP, can we control the arc of the missiles? Can we tell them to fly high and attack from his back while we shoot at his front?No.
>>34789365>He's inviting us to shoot at him, which is all we've done. My guess is he takes the energy from whatever hits the shield and ferries it into his spear, sending it back a hundred-fold.Actually, that makes sense - he's using a Sinistral.SO.... use Kinetic weapons. OR, anti-energy-field ones.
>>34789378The missiles already count as indirect fire.A high arc wouldn't be a stretch.
>>34789365It stands to reason that if he got this far he would have had to fight people who do not rely on shooting. But you are still probably right about the shield.
>>34789381It's a solid shield, dude. It just warps mass/energy/space/time around itself because it's h4x.
>>34789381Actually, perhaps we should try overloading him? See if we can pump too much power into him, make him explode.
>>34789394Those people are likely the kind who would try and hit him from behind. And then he swings around and hits them with his shield.Unless he has a chest cannon (which I doubt, he'd have shoved it in his spear otherwise), there is no way for him to defend against someone who is right in front of him, beating him to death.
>>34789394Yeah, that would be our worst case.Taking damage adds Meter. His shield might abuse that fact somehow.We really need to hit him indirectly.Disrupt might be the best bet.
>>34789424Except dropping the spear and punching them so hard they explode.Which is a thing, you know.
>>34789374Doesn't that only work when we have one of those weapons up and active?>>34789400Wouldn't anyone with half a brain just discharge the charge before they blew up? In the form of an enormous laser beam no less.
>>34789112Alrright. Arsenal beacon a Gravity gun. Hook it into the Midas gauntlet. Then, clone the gravgun - the charge is paid for - and unload both of them at him; going for indirect fire/AOE. Use repeat gravity bursts to make him *lower* his shield - then blast his reactors with the Sotto Vocca - using Disrupt if we must to make it work - and a follow-up strike with the Axel-grips to seal the blow to his reactors/open the seams for the sotto vocca to exploit.Then, using meter we just gained, throw missiles at him - indirect fire, and use the gravity-bursts to draw them into him and around his guard.WHen the gravity gun looks like the core is going to burst, just throw it at him.Hell, use it to sympathetic-detonation the missile flight. Its an unexpected move.THEN see where that get us
Why do I feel like the dude is a combination of Gaim Banana man and that first mech from Aldnoah Zero?
>>34789152> Shoot the Vulcan at him. Test if the shots disappear.Your Tau Guns erase themselves in schematics lines - And in the same smooth motion, your armored forearm sheaths snap open, your Plasma Vulcans spinning up. You open fire, a blitz of emerald bolts; Adamant Aegis swings his shield in the way, the thruster flare of his jets burning as he turns himself into a rocket...-It's like being charged by a battering ram. Your plasma bolts slam into his shield - They char the surface, but fail to obscure the bright emblem, or do more than mar the gold ornamentation: As your shots fireball off, you fling yourself to the side - Matador with bull- As you tense to spring, Aegis's Emblem flares- The ground explodes. It's a four-part detonation, like being caught in an artillery barrage - A pounding sensory overload, the earth shaking under the flashing concussions. You're right in the middle of it, and the plumes of erupting sharpnel scar your armour - Even slowed by your inertia field, they leave deep lines...And then Aegis is right in front of you. He stabs with his lance - The motion is fluid and beautiful, and it vanishes in a flicker of motion. It vanishes because it is coming right for you. When it enters the envelope of your inertia field, it slows...Just long enough for you to turn the Sinistral, and *parry*- The edge of his shield catches you right in the torso, and hurls you aside.The impact is...Tremendous. Your cuirass cracks - The mechanisms of your Tyrant Burst system rupture, crushing in upon itself. He hits as hard as a freight train-(Continued)
>>34789439>punching them so hard they explodeWith what? And anyways, if nothing else, we could blast off the arm holding the shield, or rip it off by hand. I expect him to be fairly squishy underneath all that weaponry.
>>34789424>>34789439Or just hitting the person in front of him with the shield. Or swinging the lance like a big club.
>>34789424You do realize that he's probably much stronger than Joker, right?
>>34789450That sounds pretty cool.
>>34789428>We really need to hit him indirectly.>Disrupt might be the best bet.If we can see it, we can make it explode. Is it finally time for Exec_smite?>>34789460./` kniiight of the speeaaar ./`
>>34789450>Then, using meter we just gained, throw missiles at him - indirect fire, and use the gravity-bursts to draw them into him and around his guard.The gravity blast would destroy the missiles; they're absurdly fragile.
>>34789478Depends on timing
>>34789463>The mechanisms of your Tyrant Burst system rupture, crushing in upon itself. He hits as hard as a freight train-ShitShitShit
>>34789468Too close for either of those to be viable. you don't know what it means to be inside someone's guard, do you?If you're touching their chest with yours, hand to hand will win 9 times out of 10 against any weapon, with the 1 time being the time the other guy pulls out a hidden dagger and bleeds you.We robot. We don't fall down on the 1 time.>>34789469I have doubts.
>>34789450fuck i posted it too late
>>34789463There ya go, he's fucking strong.
>>34789493No it doesn't. If they're in the area of effect, they're destroyed.>>34789508>I have doubts.Are you even reading what he just did.
So this dude has mad acceleration and uses distractions to make use of his momentum.Melee doesn't sound that bad anymore, aside from the fact that his arms could likely crumble us.
>>34789522That's all his shield. I doubt it has much of anything to do with his actual strength. We have things that do that too.
>>34789506>>The mechanisms of your Tyrant Burst system rupture, crushing in upon itself. He hits as hard as a freight train-This is the warning that we have Chosen Poorly.Step up our game, son.If there's any time to channel our old joker-fu, its now.
>>34789508What stops him kicking you? How do you get around his shield in the first place? What stops him activating his charge if we do get inside and just body slamming us out of the way?
Guys, how tall is this dude?If he's much taller than us, we can get into his guard.If he's the same size, we likely can't.
>>34789537Oh my fucking god you are actually that dumb.
>get inside his guard>use axel grips to dismember him at the shoulders>"Looks like you've been...disarmed.">crowd boos us off the stage>we go back to date with Best Grill
>>34789526>>34789537>>34789538That is not a fucking good idea. What we have to do is destroy his Lance with the Sotto Voca and blow off his hand with a well-placed Exec_Harrow.
>>34789463Why are we still testing the waters? It should be obvious that the shield is not something we are going to be able to get through without using the Tachyon Disintegrator or several railgun shots.We need to actually do something, not just dodge and take potshots, because if we do that then he's going to wear us down.
>>34789463>They char the surfaceGood.This means the thing isn't indestructible and doesn't absorb energy.It's probably comparable to our Midas gauntlet.
>>34789578>>34789581unfortunately, it looks like we're going to have to rely on the gauntlet to carry us through - since it slikely our booster is destroyed
>>34789569kekkles aside, this isn't that bad of a plan. The axle grips part.
>>34789580>Why are we still testing the waters?To see if that fucking thing absorbs energy, chucklefuck.To test if we disintegrate if it touches us.>>34789569We know that he has mad acceleration and momentum.If his hand-to-hand speed is slow enough, we could actually do that.The question is if it actually is.
>>34789569How in the flying fuck do you get inside the guard of someone who has lightning-fast reflexes and a shield as big as he himself is?
>>34789596The booster isn't destroyed. It's the tyrant burst system.You know, the thing that lets us shoot cobalt bullets.I'm starting to sense a pattern. The Tyrant Burst system allows us to use arcing energy beams. The interceptors allow to attack him from behind.His shield is definitely what is carrying him against us.
>>34789622through a mix of Exec_Swarm, Shroud, and Adjunct Thrusters
>>34789581What. No, it means that it isn't immune to physical shots; plasma is half-energy and half-solid. The pure energy shot was absorbed.
>>34789622You have ot be faster. The shield is his downside - its massive, and he' strong, but that doesn't mean he can move that shield ALL the way fast enough.Or you curve around it.The answer is the Muleta - because it doesn't give a fuck about striking linear blows. IN fact, we could probably get in a few hits as he passes by, and start a grapple with it
>>34789622We don't actually know about his reflexes.We've only seen strength and acceleration feats, not speed feats.Also, big shield is exactly why the idea seems viable.>>34789638Time for chaingun?
>>34789628>The booster isn't destroyed. It's the tyrant burst system.You hope.See, I remember which artifact the tyrant burst is part of.
>>34789463You hit the ground, hard enough to crack your back plating. You skid and tumble until you get your arms under you - Your Abruption Jets triggering, the static burn bringing you to an abrupt, sudden stop as they flare in the joints of your armor, the back of the elbows and the knees- It's a good trick. The follow-up lunge - Aimed not at where you *are*, but where you should be - falls short. His lance sings past, burning and lethal, as Aegis finds voice to growl- "Come, Joker! Or must I *harry* you to deat-"And then your Assault Shroud erupts into the churning confusion of EXEC_SWARM, and converges on him in a hemisphere of swirling, biting parasites. Aegis's proclamation fades into an outraged yowl - He's at the heart of a churning mass, sweeping his shield and lance through the air in great strokes. He's actually...Actually, he's thinning out the cloud pretty quickly - Each swing of his lance crisps apart the parasites, but his shield...Where the great mass passes, they're just gone. HP: 203.2%COBALT BOOSTER: 81%ASSAULT SHROUD: 63%METER: 27%TYRANT BURST SYSTEM DESTROYEDYOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34789651>We don't actually know about his reflexes.Not true, he managed to get his giant shield around his side to block another two Tau shots after the first pair. He's a physical combatant par excellence.
>>34789637And Carnifex. Don't forget Carnifex.>>34789663I understand it as the Tyrant Burst channeling our cobalt booster, not BEING our cobalt booster.Maybe OP has to clarify.
>>34789628>>34789663>>34789674(My apologies: To clarify, it's the Tyrant Burst system, specifically. Your Cobalt Booster is still working.)
>>34789666God dammit. Now we've lost swarm AND Abrubtion Jets...bah. Stall until we can use them again. Use the scrander.
>>34789666>Each swing of his lance crisps apart the parasites, but his shield...use whatever gun we have in hand, and shoot that shield out of his hand when he exposes the wrist.NOW is the time for axel grips - reactor, arm, wrist, elbow - something to make him pause.Close to melee, get behind him - that massive shield swing IS his blind spot - get behind him, grapple with the muleta, and don't let go for the life of us.>>34789685hooooo. thank fuck, jqop!
>>34789666>Where the great mass passes, they're just gone.That right there. That's a good reason not to fight him up close.
>>34789666Yeah, we absolutely need to use Sotto Voca on him while he's distracted. He has THREE prominent reactors, one of which is spectacularly large and inside his primary weapon, and two are in his chest and spine. That's a lot of firepower we can detonate that completely bypasses his shield.>>34789642>start a grapple with itPlease, please stop suggesting that the agile hit-and-run striker get in prolonged melee with a guy who has been defined from the very start by his absurd strength.
>>34789666Axel grips now. Aim for the legs.
>>34789666Activate Cybele's Emblem. While he's distracted close a bit and use the Axel Grips to sever the arm holding his shield.>>34789663Look, the Booster's fine.
>>34789666While he is distracted, pop the Carnifex, use the Abruption Jets and make a drive-by Axel Grip attack while shooting our Vulcans.And fire a few flecchettes, for good measure.Or is that too wasteful? We have a window of opportunity right now.
>>34789709NO DAMMITWE NEED TO SAVE THEM FOR THE ARMSHE HAS JETS, LEGS ARE A LUXURY TO HIM
>>34789718He is heavy.Legs might be required for his fast attacks, to produce acceleration.
>>34789715His shield is impervious to anything that's not physics-breaking. And we've ruled out Singularity Cannon as a bad idea, already.
>>34789666Use the Sotto Vocca. Use the Axel Grips to cut off his legs and the shield arm.
>>34789732>>34789718CUT SOMETHING OFF WITH THEM. HEAD, ARMS, LEGS. HE NEEDS TO HAVE LESS LIMBS
>>34789732Dude. No. Axel Grips are a one-off. We can use them on his arms when we get through/around his guard.
>>34789702Do this, and tempest crash him too, while he's distracted?>>34789708Strength is not speed, anon. He's a Knight. He does best in linear charging attacks. he is NOT good if someone gets close, around his guard, and in his blind spots. His shield's fucking heavy - its not a FAST weapon. Hit and running is exactly what we need to do - except our melee punch is as good as his is, and better able to hit around his shield.>>34789708>Yeah, we absolutely need to use Sotto Voca on him while he's distracted. He has THREE prominent reactors, one of which is spectacularly large and inside his primary weapon, and two are in his chest and spine. That's a lot of firepower we can detonate that completely bypasses his shield.This. So much this. While he's swinging his shield at the swarm - Sotto Vocca and use the axel-grips as a can opener. HIT THAT FUCKER GOOD, then prepare to evade via scrander.
>>34789736That's why I suggest a drive-by.He's occupied right now. He can't see, unless he has advanced sensor suite.We make a sudden acceleration to get into range for a moment. We use the full surge to escape his range again afterwards.
>>34789666One more thing: Use the Scrander lightning bolt while his back is turned in addition to cutting off an arm with the grips.
>>34789745>>34789708(Gentlemen: This is in fact viable, but be aware that EXEC_SWARM will be destroyed before Adamant Aegis's reactors will. As in, it will affect him, but it will clear out the - unshielded - swarm before it does.)
GUYSTHIS IS OUR ONE OPENING WHERE HE"S SWINGING HIS SHIELD AROUND IN A WAY THATS NOT PROTECTIVECAPITALIZE ON IT.NO FUCKING PUSSY SHIT. CARPE DIEM! SIEZE OPPORTUNITY BY THE BALLS AND SQEEEEEEEEEEZZZEEEE
>>34789759Of course he has a sensor suite. What do you think that cloak was?
>>34789781Axel grips through the swarm. Then sotto voca
>>34789666Okay, fuck it.EXEC_DICTUM, order him to STOP. Use the Maser Bombardment on his lance.Maser Bombardment specifically mentions that it detonates power sources. His lance was specifically described as 'absurdly high-energy', meaning it has a decent chance of taking his arm and much of his torso with it.
>>34789781So what you're saying is, we need something else to keep the shield at bay while we face-blast him with the sotto voccaOKAY THEN. Grapple-fu inside his guard, and microwave-facemelting is a GO
>>34789780He can fly and you want to disable our jet pack?>>34789787Exactly. We need hitscan murder right now.Axel Grip. Tau Gun. Anything that doesn't have travel time.>>34789781Let's delay Sotto Voca. The swarm is too valuable right now.
>>34789759Of course he has a sensor suite. What do you think that cloak was?>>34789781Can we use abruption jets?>>34789804Why not axel grip his shield off? The lance we can out-gun, but the shield is causing issues.
>>34789804This is stupid, like hugging a C4 teddy bear about to explode
>>34789798FUck no, man. This will hit us too.Also it takes six turns to arrive :( AND blows our secret anti-smiler weapon.We have handheld microwave weapons that do that.
>>34789798It also takes multiple turns to lock and fire with the satellite.
I'd like to point out with incredible smugness that the two things I suggested >>34788440 have not only proven to be tactically sound, but are potentially the only moves with a chance of turning things around and have been from the start.>>34789798Jesus christ, Leukocyte has a six round charging time. It's not going to work.
>>34789824>Why not axel grip his shield off? The lance we can out-gun, but the shield is causing issues.Thats why I was suggesting turns ago!
>>34789781Would the Maser Bombardment work faster? It does basically the same thing, but apparently more intense?
>>34789836Yes, I'm also in favor of dictum.Dunno why everyone else isn't.Let him make a pirouette and cut him apart with the Axel Grips.
>>34789846IT TAKES SEVERAL ROUNDS TO LOCK ON, CHARGE, AND FIRE.
>>34789825Not of we deploy a fortress mode around his shield-arm. Prevent him from bringing it to bear - and get inside his lance reach with our crisis arms>>34789852exec_dictum to make him STOP while we hit him is good too.
>>34789846(It would certainly clear out everything in the area, but it would take a few rounds to fire.)
>>34789863Fortress mode doesn't make small scale barriers. It makes a giant tent no matter what we do. Plus I bet his shield could make it go away like it does everything else.
>>34789868He's also fast enough to maybe get out of the area, too.Bad idea. we have plenty of other, better options.
>>34789836>>34789833>>34789827No, it has a maximum of six turns lockon time. He is in the open, we can use the Argus System to boost the lock-on rate. I predict two turns, which is why I suggested we use Dictum to make him stop. Also, it won't hit us as well, since while he is stopped, we would jump out of the ten foot beam radius.Seriously, it's just a more effective Sotto Voca.
By the way. Don't forget that we almost got our Fusion Annihilator and Chain Mines unlocked.>>34789876>Fortress mode doesn't make small scale barriers.No, it can take any shape.IIRC we used it to inhibit someone's movement once.
>>34789888By enclosing him completely.
>>34789868Look. We have two crisis arms, a muleta that can stab, and he's distracted enough for an opening. The best thing we can do right now is get close, get behind, get in his blind spot, don't let him charge, deny his shield, and make him deal with us or the swarm - we made this opening; we need to use it before he kills it
>>34789899>>34789901Good point. The assault shroud has better uses right now.Might be worth using a decoy, with our dwindling reserves, actuallyThe
>>34789883We could also use the laser designator, since he would be stopped and standing still anyway. It doesn't matter if he sees it coming if he is unable to dodge it.Factors in our favour: Wide open space, high energy target, Argus Lock-on, Laser Designator. I doubt he will be able to escape the codeburst before the firing sequence is complete.
>>34789883>Seriously, it's just a more effective Sotto Voca.You do realize that if we use the Sotto Voca now, he will detonate even before the Leukocyte, right? Doesn't matter if we boost the lock-on rate. Within 1-2 turns, the Sotto Voca will blow him up.
>>34789921Shit, yes.That's actually a sound idea. Attack him from two sides.
OP are you actually writing or are you waiting for them to stop panicking?
>>34789883This is all well and good, but we don't even have enough meter for a Maser Bombardment even if it were to be the best option. (It costs 35%.)And I'm still not convinced 2 rounds is a reasonable estimation, especially considering we're only using one of the three possible ways to reduce the Leukocyte timer at the moment.
>>34789929...Do you mean the designator we've never made?
>>34789868What if we did >>34789929?How many turns are we talking? What are the chances that he would be able to break the EXEC_DICTUM_STOP before it fires?Because this has decent potential to be an instakill if it works. Bypass his shield, destroy all his reactors.
>>34789965100 out of 100. Dictum lasts seconds.
>>34789965It would also eliminate all of his essence.
>>34789959I think it came free with the Leukocyte?There's no option to build it in the hollow sun, and I can't find any other mentions of it in the armoury either.
>>34789978That's the disintegrator.
Dictum-leukocyte is off the table, anyway.Not enough booster
>>34789981>[ ] POSITRON DESIGNATOR>(Unlocks a hand-held personal designator, with the capability to 'mark' targets within line-of-sight.) It's in the Hollow Sun guide under Leukocyte Upgrades.
>>34789994We could pay some of it in meter
>>34789702>>34789709>>34789715>>34789745>>34789751>>34789797Axel Grips - The compact fusion cartridges glow, in the brief moment before they discharge; Blinding, needle-thin beams of azoic light, searing through the swarm without disrupting it - Adamant Aegis sees you. Somehow, even through the writhing weight of parasites blotting out his visor, swamping his vision, blinding him - he *sees* you. He's already turning, as your Axel Grips make twin noises like the amplified shrieks of eagles, the streaming rays continuous beams of blue, searing power- -He's not quite fast enough. He can shield his body, or he can shield his lance-arm. He chooses his arm, tiltingly slightly to take the beam in his side. It cuts through the torso plating under his arm; If he'd tried to hunch and shield himself, it would surely have cost him the limb. But instead, he throws his guard wide, and absorbs the hit in his physical core. The ray slashes a trench wound into his flank - A flick of your wrist, and it carves through his armor like tin foil. His secondary reactor is cored, and it erupts from his back in a spray of metal shards and spalling; Adamant Aegis lurches forward at the sickening impact, as part of his torso blows out - The light flickers in his eyeslits, as his motions slow, his limbs growing leaden - Black smoke and Essence gouts out of the hideous wound...But more telling is the second ray, the ray that slashes into his shield.It carves across the Emblem, the great, glowing mark - and eradicates it. "What-" It's a growl, half-cohered, as Adamant Aegis staggers, adjusting to the new deadness of his limbs. Even as the fat squirming masses of EXEC_SWARM churn in the visor slit, he sees you anyway-And you can tell that he's narrowing his eyes. (Continued)
>>34789981>[ ] POSITRON DESIGNATOR (Unlocks a hand-held personal designator, with the capability to 'mark' targets within line-of-sight.)I just realized the anon joking about people playing this quest not reading wasn't a joke. I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but it's right there on the bottom of the Leukocyte upgrades.
>>34790015Fucking. Vindicated.Maybe you trigger happy loons will stop and think next time.
>>34790015TOP FUCKING KEK M80
>>34790015>It carves across the Emblem, the great, glowing mark - and eradicates it.Well, THAT'S interesting.
>>34790025>>34790007I looked for 'Laser Designator', since that is how it is described under the Leukocyte entry, and I don't really have the time to read through the entire hollow sun guide between updates.Sue me.
>>34790015>And you can tell that he's narrowing his eyes.OH its ON.Deploy carnifex - the faceguard - but do NOT engage the system.Stare him down. Cowboy duel system.And... get ready to recieve the counter-charge. He'll try to lance us... fucking grab it with the impenetrable arm of the midas gauntlet, and pull hum off course, drive him into the ground
>>34790015>like the amplified shrieks of eagles, the streaming rays continuous beams of blue, searing power-AMEEERIIICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>34790053Can...can we use the Nihl Sphere to siphon power from his lance?Does that even work?
>>34790015>It carves across the Emblem, the great, glowing mark - and eradicates it. BwuhThat's an interesting side effect
>>34790051You didn't have to, just look for the Leukocyte upgrades. Still, honest mistake.
>>34790080Isnt ti full?
>>34790053Better idea: lightning bolt.
>>34790080I don't even mean the sphere.I mean to fucking cross-counter his spear with an ambush-carnifex deployment. In close - where someone has grabbed his lance, is bashing it into his shield, kicking his legs out, stabbing exposed limbs and elbows and joins with a cloak that lives and breathes and moves and bites on its own - and then the jokers other golden fist somehow gets inside his guard, scoring a hit to the kidneys as he throws the larger player off-balance with suddenly impressive strength, stepping behind for a kill shot...... THATS the kind of situation i'm trying to engineer.RJ is fucking terrifying in melee, and you're all stuck in the mental image of a gunslinger sniper.But you forget, cowboys are known for their fistfighting skills too.
>>34790015So his body isn't ready anymore.But he might redirect the energy of his relics or something, depending on how strongly they are integrated into his system.
>>34790125Using Consume will likely reduce the essence payout.
>>34790125Anon, that's just not very cool sounding.
>>34790146Again, no consume.Just Fist.>>34790160You need to go watch the achilles vs hector fight, from troy. Spear duels and close-in vying for advantage is PLENTY cool.
All right, who archived the thread? You're pretty cool.
I have an old chinese riddle for you all.A merchant is going through a town, and professes to have two items of extraordinary claim. A spear that can pierce any shield, and a shield that will never be pierced!A man from the audience asks what happens when you try to pierce the shield with the spear. How does he answer?
>>34790224Doesn't he fail to and is driven out of town by the laughter of the townspeople?
>>34790146>>34790080Stop trolling, start reading. I guess you're proving the steriotypes true after all.No consume, no sphere. Just two crisis arms, a muleta, and entering turbo-mode when our enemy least expects it. We just need an opening for ONE good hit to even things up.Put an Exec_harrow in his shield-hand - nor arm, hand - and blow it to move his guard off at JUST the wrong moment.Hit him with a crisis arm, an emulated crisis arm, and shove our steel mono-spikes in the gaping hole in his chest.
>>34790015Smoke wisps from his shield's surface, the Emblem continuing to glow - But there's a great scar across itself, a riven, molten line that glows with molten heat. The pinions of your armor vent death-heat...-And then a black cloud engulfs you. Biting, gnawing at your armor, a plague of locusts - Chewing into the rents of your chestplate, their hideous wedge-shaped heads plunging deep - A swarming tide that coats you, ready to strip the myomer from your bones- EXEC_SWARM.Adamant Aegis's lance ploughs through the black damnation cloud. You lash out, with your right arm - The stabbing point smashes into the Hand of Midas, sparks flying with a shuddering shriek. His shield comes around, in what would have been a lethal blow - But your Tempest Scrander flares, and you boost backwards before the final, fatal swing...-Instead, he takes your left leg. From your armored boot to the knee. No impact, nothing. Just there, one moment, then gone - Your systems registering instant annhilation. Thrusters burn to right you, as you sink to your right knee; One hand against the ground to balance yourself, the cut as clean as if your limb has been erased in a single stroke. "You should die a thousand deaths, Joker," Aegis growls, through speaker grilles clogged with EXEC_SWARM parts and still-wriggling, shorn-off legs. A muffled clang echoes, as your still-smoking limb crashes to the ground - The edges of the cut a simple, aching absence."-But one will have to do." He levels his lance, as parasites continue to scar your armor - It splits apart, a seething electric charge building...HP: 174.8%COBALT BOOSTER: 91%ASSAULT SHROUD: 46%METER: 39%TIER 2 WEAPONRY UNLOCKEDYOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34790252>I'm implying that I want to know what happensLet's rip that spear off, and hit the shield with it. What could possibly go wrong?
>>34790261(Gentlemen, a quick addition - I appreciate your enthusiasm, but be aware that it's hard to incorporate suggestions 'mid-round'. While the narrative illustrates the combat process, your opponent still takes turns which can disrupt plans.)
>>34790261Exec_Disrupt. Then launch a pair of chainmines, using the ring to cover the missing amount.
>>34790261Let's use some booster to heal ourselves. Maybe our burst will come back.
>>34790261Things like this happening are why I was saying fighting him up close is a really bad idea.
>>34790261>-And then a black cloud engulfs you. Biting, gnawing at your armor, a plague of locusts - Chewing into the rents of your chestplate, their hideous wedge-shaped heads plunging deep - A swarming tide that coats you, ready to strip the myomer from your bones->EXEC_SWARM.OH! his shield reflects shit.>>34790293>(Gentlemen, a quick addition - I appreciate your enthusiasm, but be aware that it's hard to incorporate suggestions 'mid-round'. While the narrative illustrates the combat process, your opponent still takes turns which can disrupt plans.)hahah sometimes I forget things are mid-battle. SORRY JQOP
>>34790261Exec_disruptFire the Chain mines at the sky. Boost them to make them home on him.While he defends with his shield, he will be vulnerable again. Shoot Tau at body.
>>34790293Just continue not to take between post write-ins (unless you really want to). Think of it as us brainstorming for the next round.That said, go with >>34790261 and add using the Argus to lock on to him.>>34790276The shield's no longer invincible, so I'm guessing it'll do to that arm what it does to everything else.>>34790321No, he used it on us.
>>34790261Okay, he swarmed us. NOW we go maximum joker, keep our distance, and pound that shield with energy damage until it comes apart. Good old plasma caster and the Immolator.
>>34790321>OH! his shield reflects shit.Wait, what if it reflects codebursts?Disrupt might be a bad idea, after all.
>>34790261Turn out the light and turn on the fireworks. Basically >>34790306.
>>34790350>>34790346>>34790342>>34790321>>34790314>>34790306(Gentlemen, be aware that you're missing a leg. You can still move - via Tempest Scrander and Abruption Jets - but it's throwing your balance off and you can't walk or run.)
>>34790373I guess we go into a hover. Thank god that our Scrander is upgraded so highly.
>>34790373Eh, fine, use the Emblem to regen the leg, while getting the hell out of the way. I think we're close enough that Disrupt should stop his charging, but better safe than sorry.
>>34790397We can't heal while swarmed.I wish Repulse wouldn't cost so much.Wait, OP, can we use CONSUME while flailing around our arm, to absorb the locusts?
>>34790261>a seething electric charge building...either evade, or refllect with a sinistral L3....>>34790261>He levels his lance, as parasites continue to scar your armor - It splits apart, a seething electric charge building...>>34790015>His secondary reactor is cored, and it erupts from his back in a spray of metal shards and spalling; Adamant Aegis lurches forward at the sickening impact, as part of his torso blows out - The light flickers in his eyeslits, as his motions slow, his limbs growing leaden - Black smoke and Essence gouts out of the hideous wound...You know what? Fuck it. He's trying to finish us off with a charge attack while we're weakest.That's a critical mistake.He's got a giant hole in his torso.And what we can see, we can explode.Exec_smite. Smite that shit, right here, right now, in his exposed center.Dump our booster, pay the 10% difference with meter.Deploy the carnifex faceplate, but don't activate the system. Use the Muleta - we can control it like a second limb, after all - as an impromptu cane/leg.Start deploying a second leg via emblem+meter, and get ready to evade while it deploys - i'm imagining leaping over an attack and landing wiht a finished leg.
>>34790373Where we're going, we don't need legs. Into the sky on the Scrander, maximum joker, and crush him danmaku style with the plasma caster, Immolator, and boosted missiles.
>>34790261Ok, with us covered in parasites too, I think Sotto Voca clearing out any SWARM between us and them just became an up-side.It's our best way to disable his Lance more permanently, but for now we need something more temporary. I'd like to start it now, if possible, though. Taking out one torso reactor gimped him spectacularly on the physical front, so I'd hope harming other reactors would affect him similarly negatively.I don't trust our ability to dodge at the last minute even with Scrander/Jets, so I feel like we should either DISRUPT or set out Chain Mines and take to the air so he'd have to charge through a field of anti-armor explosives to get to us, or set them all off in his face if the lightning lance is a projectile.
>>34790421>plasma caster, Immolator, and boosted missiles.No to boosted missiles. Otherwise..... maybe
>>34790420>Use the Muleta - we can control it like a second limb, after all - as an impromptu cane/leg.Not that finely. We had people asking about that, and it doesn't grant us that kind of control.
>>34790373Its almost as if getting close to him was a bad idea.
>>34790420>Deploy the carnifex faceplate, but don't activate the system.Why.Also, you forgot the swarm that is eating us.And IIRC we can't use Booster and Meter at the same time to pay costs.Just note that we mustn't get close, now that his shield eats matter.
>>34790373Op, what kind of guns do we have deployed right now? I forget, combat's kinda fluid. What do we have at hand right now?
>>34790426Our Shroud is at 46%.Fire a few volleys of Flecchettes and then block with fortress mode?
>>34790456(You just finished using the Axel Grips. Your Plasma Vulcans are still active.)
>>34790453>Why.Because, we may want to explosively release armor later at a moment's notice. Could get rid of the swarm, anyway.And it just could mean the difference between life and death - all JQOP's updates have been us being juuuuuuuuussssst too slow. Barely avoidign shit, etc.We're evenly matched - we could actually claim the speed advantage if we used it. But we haven't because people are afraid.
>>34790482I wonder if his lance would explode if we just fired boosted Vulcans into it... Or maybe the Tau gun.Guys, he's charging a powerful attack.He can't defend! If he does, he wastes his shot.Abuse that advantage.
>>34790482>Your Plasma Vulcans are still active.)Oh. Oh hell yeah. Wind that shit up, go for his kneees/legs, make him lower the shield down a bit while we do >>34790420
>>34790420>refllect with a sinistral L3Level 2 might be more effective, since L3 only deflects something that wouldn't otherwise bypass the shield, and if this is anywhere on the scale of Garuda, it's going to be a doozy.There's no such failure state mentioned for L2 Absorption, and while it'd be good to turn it around against him, our primary concern is not getting melted by this next attack right here and now.
>>34790474>Fire a few volleys of Flecchettes and then block with fortress mode?Actually, flechette to clear the Swarm is a good idea.its 10% a volley, but theyr'e all over us, and it would just blow them all apart/away.Will likely take more damage with them snacking on us, so..... good trade.Shrike Blade the swarm away.
>>34790489You should have been clearer. For fuck's sake.Yes, activate the Carnifex.Your phrasing made it sound like you wanted the mask to be activated without actually engaging the Carnifex. You know, to look cool or whatever.Yes, activate the Carnifex. It could save our ass right now if he closes in again.But do it after we survived the lance ability.
>>34790502He still has his shield which is still probably pretty strong and we have only one leg. I would say now would be a good time to focus on putting distance between us
>>34790518Uhh... it's implied. L3 survives things that 2 can't, and L2 has broken before, and quite dramatically.
>>34790534What I mean is that he can't protect his lance.
>>34790552What I mean is that if we don't get farther away from his shield then it wont matter.
>>34790580Shouldn't we currently be more worried about the attack that his lance is charging?
>>34790534Well, we can retreat, vulcans blazing with a jetpack.The problem is, it just lines us up for one of his jet-charges.Also, i'm really disappointed we didn't get the lucifer bits.The axel grips are cobalt laser tech, and its the same weapon system the lucifer bits use - its something his shield can't deal with. Go go gadget hellion tech.I'd hazard a guess that his shield redirects Essence - absorbs, redirects, unleashes on the wielder - and the half-real nature of hellion weaponry is what gives it pause
>>34790552>>34790580Yeah, keep in mind he blew off our leg with the shield, not the lance. Activating the Carnifex now is a better idea for the dodge bonus; plus this is liable to be an energy attack given the approaching lightning. I don't think the Midas+Zenith upgrade energy resist is going to be enough to keep us safe.Out of curiosity, is anyone else feeling the after effects of an adrenaline crash? The early part of the fight was really, really intense.
>>34790594and that is ENTIRELY WHY i said to hit im wiht our strongest, non-telegraphed, own-you-in-the-face, blink-and-you-missed it attack while he's charging and distracted.Back plan smite, here>>34790420Nothing blunts a charge attack like getting interrupted in the middle of it.
>>34790595>Also, i'm really disappointed we didn't get the lucifer bits.Why? Garuda would have destroyed them as well. That attack could have one-shotted Joker had it hit, all that would have happened was confirm to those of us uninterested in the bits that they're not worth it.
>>34790619Getting the rocket knees and hitting this guy's reactor felt like a little bit of christmas to me.
>>34790645You guys don't use bits properly. You deploy them at the worst times, let them get one-shotted, and then go 'they suck'.Also, I'd wager the lucifer bits would have survived the garuda - relics are way tougher than our notoriously fragile rifle bits. Remember the force we had to exert to break rust kaiser/kraken's axe?THATS how tough the little fuckers are
So, to clarify, we have multiple ideas:- GET THE FUCK OUT-> Requires that we can actually escape the inevitable death laseror- DISRUPT-> Either by using an attack on the lance or his unprotected body or by literally using disrupt.So which approach do we take?
>>34790420>either evade, or refllect with a sinistral L3....>>34790261Pay for this on Meter, since i guess we're using all our booster on Smite
>>34790623I am heavily against any plan that puts us in range of his shield.>>34790594The attack would probably fuck us up real bad if it connects. The shield will kill us if it connects fully.
I'm in favor of smiting him, but where do we get the charge?We can't combine Cobalt and Meter, can we? IIRC we can only use one source at a time.
>>34790689>Also, I'd wager the lucifer bits would have survived the garuda - relics are way tougher than our notoriously fragile rifle bits. Remember the force we had to exert to break rust kaiser/kraken's axe?The Lucifer Bits would not have survived it, they're not as well armored as us, and that attack could have killed us.Destroying the bits is different than destroying the Relic "Lucifer Bits". They're expressions of the blueprint, and the blueprint would be integrated into our interceptor system. Losing the bits doesn't mean they're gone for good.
>>34790717>I am heavily against any plan that puts us in range of his shield.You're an idiot. Read what's being proposedSmite is a Line-of-Sight explosion. Give us some binoculars and we can snipe with it.>>34790728>We can't combine Cobalt and Meter, can we? IIRC we can only use one source at a time.> with the HELIX GAUNTLET, this Codeburst costs 104% Cobalt Booster to activate. >COBALT BOOSTER: 91%IF what you're saying is true, we must survive ONE turn, and NOT use the booster - paying for all booster actions with meter instead - and THEN unload.
>>34790728Yes we can. I seem to remember Wata did it once to make Rust Kaiser eat turf.
>>34790752>Destroying the bits is different than destroying the Relic "Lucifer Bits". They're expressions of the blueprint, and the blueprint would be integrated into our interceptor system. Losing the bits doesn't mean they're gone for good.Yeah, that's not what JQOP's said - he's went out of his way to clarify that they're better-than-baseline because of Relic Status.
>>34790306>>34790372>>34790342Alien sigils scorch across your visor - The Codeburst racing the seething lightnings, ozone flickering in the air - The Codeburst wins. A spasm judders through Adamant Aegis; His great lance unravelling, into schematic lines - Then nothing, less than a memory, his hand empty for the space of a second...Before his fingers curl into a fist. "JOKER-" It's a howl of rage - The fuming effect gathering around his shield for the space of a second, there then fading...And then your Tempest Scrander flares. You rise, laboriously, sloughing a wave of armor-eating parasites, incinerating and electrocuting them in the backwash of your ascent - Not all of them, but most, the death's-head swarm already depleted. Your Plasma Vulcans spin up - But Aegis still has his shield active, and he simply ducks behind it like a bulwark-...A fusillade of shots pound his shield, hammering into it, scorching the surface. It may not be invincible, but it's still hideously resilient - It revebrates beneath the shots, but doesn't come apart, Aegis sheltering beneath it as you hammer him with plasma bolts...But that's only the prelude. In the brief break between one barrage and the next, the twin launchers of the Phanlax Chain Mine flicker into existence - And with a twin WHOOSH and a backwash of rocket-smoke, they fire. Beneath his shield, Adamant Aegis's stance shifts - He knows what's coming, even if he can't see it. The multi-stage warheads come apart, in mid-air: Tiny anti-armor munitions peppering the area in a storm of proximity-fused explosions, devastating the arena further, the tiny spheres - Each one the size of a ball-bearing - drawn inexorably to him- (Continued)
>>34790766I read charge and forgot thought it meant charging. I haven't been here in a while, sue me.
>>34790785Yessssss...? They're more durable, that doesn't mean indestructible, and the fact they can be destroyed doesn't mean they're gone for good.
>>34790689Interestingly, having terrible bits was actually really great for us there, since he focused a devastating attack on the bits we deployed instead of on our face assuming they would be a thorn in his side, and we lost relatively little by having them destroyed.Not that this is an effect we can actually rely on, but it's still amusing.
>>34790793The chainfire blasts are all around him. He staggers, stumbles, caught in the racking wave of explosions, flung this way and that as the ground comes apart beneath his feet...Smoke gouts from his armor, the blasts sending cracks skittering through his plating, hailing down around him...A thick cloud of smoke, of pulverized marble and churning vapor, momentarily obscure your vision.>>34790308>>34790397Your Cobalt Booster drains, to a fitful spark; Green lines sketching themselves into the suggestion of a limb, gathering, reforming...Still half-materalizing, as the last rippling wave of explosions end- As the smoke clears, Adamant Aegis is *still alive*. Burnt and blasted, his visor grille ripped right from his helm...-And with an exhausted grunt, a surge of strength, he flings his arm forward. His great shield carves through the air towards you, rotating about it's own axis, a final defiant gesture - But not the gesture of a beaten man. His battered legs, plating scarred and chipped from countless impacts, coil beneath him as he tenses to spring...HP: 182.8%COBALT BOOSTER: 4%ASSAULT SHROUD: 38%METER: 14%YOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34790811Frankly, what we need to do more is use them one at a time as diversions and annoyances to make people focus - 2%/round is actually really reasonable, and less so than the signal booster. Plus, it can even earn itself back if it isn't killed instantly
>>34790828Engage the Carnifex. After his blow lands, his shield will be wedged into the ground. We just need to dodge it, then rip his punk ass apart with our bare hands.
>>34790828Dodge dat fuckin shield!
>>34790856>>34790869(How do you want to dodge it?)
>>34790793>A spasm judders through Adamant Aegis; His great lance unravelling, into schematic lines - Then nothing, less than a memory, his hand empty for the space of a second...Before his fingers curl into a fist. "JOKER-" It's a howl of rage - The fuming effect gathering around his shield for the space of a second, there then fading...Kek
>>34790888By quickly flying in a different direction then the one the shield is traveling in
>>34790828Carnifex.Evade the shield.>>34790888I guess we should make sure and use our additional thrusters.Then keep our right arm ready for a punch if necessary, while our left arm fires Vulcan fire at him, for maximum probability of hitting.
>>34790828>-And with an exhausted grunt, a surge of strength, he flings his arm forward. His great shield carves through the air towards you, rotating about it's own axis, a final defiant gesture -Ahahaahhahaha he's captain america-ing us.Don't let him pull some richochet bullshit, or use it as a diversionQuick-draw the arc-gun with our Midas Arm - combo talon + fusion cell for the boost - and deflect the shield by shooting it, and also arcing the spark to Aegis with the same shot.Just repeatedly pull the trigger.>>34790888Defect it. Arc-gun + a flechette barrage on the underside - its got to be carryable on one side .Combo with a butt-scoot of Abruption Jets as a free action
>>34790828>But not the gesture of a beaten man.I think we really, really shouldn't let that shield hit us.>>34790888Scrander to the side so that his rocket charge doesn't allow him access to his shield when he finally lets loose, but save our Thrusters for adjustment so we can handle a last-minute surprise.Once he sees our trajectory and fires off his charge, use our Thrusters to nudge ourselves just above his trajectory and pound him into the ground with the Crisis Arm.
>>34790915I hope you realize that his shield must have massive amounts of inertia.Avoid it. Do not try to deflect it.
>>34790888Fly away from it. Keep shooting him while we do it.
>>34790911>By quickly flying in a different direction then the one the shield is traveling inwe should be prepared for the eventuality that it is a homing shield, BTW.What do then?
>>34790936>Once he sees our trajectory and fires off his charge, use our Thrusters to nudge ourselves just above his trajectory and pound him into the ground with the Crisis Arm.Fist intercept sounds hilarious.
>>34790888Carnifex and use the thrusters to slide under it. Use the momentum to deal a combined blow of the Midas Arm and a copied Crisis Arm.
>>34790888>(How do you want to dodge it?)If its actually going to impact us - some combination of fortress mode, muletta-barb to snag the handle, and ejecting the shroud to blow us away.as a last resort, just in case of homing shield like >>34790953 warns about
>>34790888Just leap outta the way. Maybe use the scrander with what boost we have left to help.
>>34790888........Exec_Rend powered by the Nihl Sphere.
>>34790953Shoot it out of its path? Grow enormous balls and attempt to grab the non disintegrating part?
>>34790990We've already had our date rudely interrupted, I'd hate to have some other poor high school schmuck get rocket-tackled to death while eating takoyaki with his sweetheart.
(Gentlemen, locking in. One moment, please.)
>>34790990>powered by the Nihl SphereWe can do that? I still don't know shit about this thing.
>>34790990AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.Yes. Do it.
>>34791019Last-minute addon:If he closes to melee range successfully, engage crisis arm beatdown.
>>34791021The Sphere can power any codeburst, with weird random side effects. Rend itself comes from the Sphere.
>>34790990DO NOT DO THIS
>>34791019quick questionDo we have a speaker system and/or mp3 files?
I'm surprised that OP is apparently still capable of staying awake.And that the thread is at 540 posts.
>>34791091Panic Joker is worst Joker, but it's also very active Joker.
>>34791091Its not even 8 where I live.
>>34791091>And that the thread is at 540 posts.Yes. After all...This is read joker quest
>>34791106The Shadowruns are fueling our powers.
>>34791106Panic Joker isn't so bad when battles are involved. Reading all the ridiculous combat strategies is a lot of fun.It's only really bad when waifus are involved.
>>34791091I think it's around 4 AM, JQOP-time, which is one of the later-running threads in memory.We're probably closing it out pretty soon, I'd imagine.
>>34791176The secret power source of the Red Joker is paranoia and fear reactions! It all makes sense now.
>>34791218>We're probably closing it out pretty soon, I'd imagine.I hope we get an upgrade in beforehand.
>>34791210I get a lot more worked up about the combat. I have to apologize for that by the way, while I do think most of you are illiterate morons who can't think logically, I do like most of you most of the time.Just think a little more. My heart can't take this. Pls. ;_;
>>34790977>>34790856>>34790913Adamant Aegis's shield is thrown with immense force, but it's still slow and cumbersome. Your thrusters flare, as you bank to the side: The Carnifex's crusher snapping down, half your helmet now concealed beneath a mask. Your armor vents, explosively - Fragments of crimson plate splintering from your joints, the myomer fibres beneath seething with strength. The limiters give way, your mono-topic sensor retracting: Twin emerald eyeslits winking to life, smoldering with killing fires...You never see it coming. The damaged Emblem on Aegis's shield glows, and suddenly - Abruptly, without warning - the air is filled with the tiny pellets of proximity-fused magnetic explosives. They spew forth, as careful as buckshot, like lethal marbles - Your enhanced senses stretching the moment out towards infinity, as your Assault Shroud stiffens to take the blast, as your Tempest Scrander's vanes change direction, to drive you downwards...-Too late. The air fills with explosions. With swirling flame. Each anti-armor explosion is as brutal as a punch, your Assault Shroud shredding apart as it takes the impacts, until it resembles a sieve - The same hideous destruction is wreaked on your limbs, the chainfire detonations blossoming around you in fist-sized blasts. You're pummeled, hammered as the sky turns to seething flame- The Assault Shroud takes most of the blast. So does your Sinistral, until the insidious charges punch through the fizzing field at last - Your Argus sensor goes dead - and detonate the ghost-steel in an abrupt burst. Your Tempest Scrander is the next to go - You plummet, smoke wisping from your limbs, and smash to the ground so hard the impact nearly breaks you in half.(Continued)
>>34791228>The secret power source of the Red Joker is paranoia and fear reactions! It all makes sense now.Truly, I want to see JQOP do some Black Hats N Mirrorshades shadowrun now
>>34791286>the guy who said to use Rend was rightWhat have I done.
>>34791286You know, we really should have seen this coming since he has already copied our attacks already.
>>34791286I feel like I should've seen that conning even though I've never encountered something like this in any form of fiction.
>>34791316This is pretty bad, but not "Firing off a turbo-Claymore Mine into a high school fair" bad. Even after venting armor to the Carnifex, I can't imagine us taking a full 180% HP damage from this.Still, this isn't a good look.
>>34791337I see this match as a wake-up call.We are lucky that he didn't have the system access to block disrupt.
>>34791286That's... the Chain mine? So he really can copy attacks. Should have used Rend. Damn.
>>34791356Well, he might still be grounded. Who knows, maybe this was all he could pull off?
>>34791286Oh jesus, that's bad.
>>34791358>>34791358>I see this match as a wake-up call.i've been saying for a while, when im' here, that we need to step up our game, and get back to the *vicious* joker who isn't spoiled by booster use.we use it way too much, for frivolous things.On a good day, we should strive to get through without dipping into it unless its to *really* punish somone's messup
>>34791286We should have used RendFuck the consequences, this is really, really bad.
>>34791378He was powering up thrusters, so I think he's got one more rocket charge in him.I just hope we've still got the presence of mind to meet him with enough force to put him down.
>>34791358>>34791386Are we still getting wake up calls!? I thought we were getting those when I stopped reading.I thought the guy who turned into a jet was a wake up call.
>>34791356Rend's effects are random. There's no guarantee it'd work exactly like that. Using it to dodge the Hollow Sun giant falling on Joker had no adverse effects.
>>34791361He doesn't copy attacks. He absorbs and unleashes back at us.Looks like energy attacks are the one thing he can't absorb, judging by plasma and cobalt laser.>>34791418yeah, and then everyone who hears the wake-up calls doesn't show up for the next ten sessions.(its what happened to me too :( )
>>34791413Thus far meeting him with things has not gone well for us.
>>34791440I figure it's better than being like the dude in every zombie movie with a leg wound, scrabbling away and firing his weapon wildly before being eaten.If we can't take him out before he's on top of us, we're going to be in a world of trouble. Whether that's at range with something well-aimed and explosive through his chest cavity, or taking his head off with a Crisis Arm backed by his own momentum is a matter of reaction time and accessibility.
>>34791520I can see where you are coming from but that dude doesn't usually have a jetpack and armoured core boosters.
>>34791286Exec Smite, power it with nihl. May God have mercy on our souls.
>>34791433The problem isn't that people miss the wake up call, it's that they constantly get lazy and don't think. It's honestly pretty horrifying given how often this happens.Could those of you who thought this was going to be an easy fight please explain yoir reasoning, in the face of evidence to the contrary?
>>34791286Wait, does that mean that this thing contains part of our leg?
>>34791286(Gentlemen, I am sincerely sorry. At this juncture, it would be appropriate to point out the effects of Adamant Aegis's shield, which was alluded to - It does not disintegrate what it touches, but stores it to be discharged again afterward. Hence the absorption and release of your anti-matter rounds, the rapid deunduation of EXEC_SWARM, the removal of your leg, and the chain mines.)Your optic sensors go blank, scrolling only the malfunction symbol. You cycle through your remaining sensors - Your mono-optic receptor taking a moment to register...The first thing you see is Adamant Aegis's armored boot, coming in your direction. You try - You raise your left arm, the Sinistral humming feebly, the Argus System a fused, charred mass- The impact rams you backwards. Dull warning lights flare on the inside of your helmet. Left vulnerable by the Carnifex's discharge of your armor, you see it coming - But it doesn't stop the vicious kick from snapping the endosteel internal structure, your arm going dead. The tatters of your Assault Shroud trail around you - You gather all your strength, servoes whirring in protest, and *lurch* to the side- Adamant Aegis's fist comes down, and pulverizes the stone next to your helmet."-Trickery," Aegis rasps, his voice low, dire. "Is it only your *armor* that makes you dangerous, Joker?"His boot comes down on your already-cracked cuirass, with immense force. It dawns on you that - To carry a shield that size, even with effort - Aegis must be immensely strong. Your Cobalt Booster splinters, dull shards of energy scattering in every direction at once. (Continued)
>>34791440Ugh.And I just realized this is training wheels for Rust kaiser, MK 2.He's only gotten STRONGER since we've last beat him up.
>>34791572(It did, but it discharged it.)There are red warning lights on every system. Your left arm isn't registering - Your right arm, however, is pristine but battered. Armor shards are cutting into your right leg, and your torso armor is a horror. A parallel to Aegis, perhaps - He's similarly ruined, ruptured, great cracks skittering across his form as compared to the tangle of scorched myomer fibre - You're blind on the right side, the track of your optic sensor no longer registering. Your Tempest Scrander is merely twisted metal spalling - Metal spalling that flickers with uneasy charge, the core reactor growing hot at your back - the vanes crumpled and warped upon themselves. "-All I need are my *bare hands*-"Your limited, gouged vision is restored, as Aegis brings his fists together overhead, rearing back for a double-fisted blow- HP: 49.2%COBALT BOOSTER: N/AASSAULT SHROUD: 2%METER: 18%YOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34791573Good going Carnifex posters.
>>34791598Exec_Smite, power it with Nihl Sphere. Blow his primary core out of his chest.
>>34791598SCRANDER BOLT HIM.
>>34791573>To carry a shield that size, even with effort - Aegis must be immensely strong.Where is that one dude who said he couldnt fight without his shield?
>>34791578FUCKING RUST KAISER, HOW DO YOU WORK!
>>34791563>>34791618Smite is an area attack. We'll kill ourselves too.
>>34791618Yeah, this.I feel like we've become Pazazu. We're relying on wizard tricks instead of being Joker-y.
>>34791598Fortress Mode to bind his arms.Punch him with the Crisis Arm. Use the elbow thruster to carry the punch.Add Meter-powered Cobalt to the punch.
>>34791598Deploy helix gauntlet, catch his blow, and eat him. Eat all of him with Consume.
>>34791652If you have a better idea, I'm all ears.Alternatively, catching his blow with the Midas Gauntlet might be nice.
>>34791625Seconding this. Hit him with the Scrander blast, follow up with EXEC_SMITE when we knock him away.
>>34791598Dispel the cover on the Midas Arm, put a a pair of Crisis Arms through his arms."Funny. I was thinking the same thing."
>>34791598>Your Tempest Scrander is merely twisted metal spalling - Metal spalling that flickers with uneasy charge, the core reactor growing hot at your back - the vanes crumpled and warped upon themselves. Is this a hint that using the Scrander Lightning will kill us?If not, let's use that, and then follow up with EXEC_SMITE, if the bolt propels us back far enough to be out of the explosion radius.
>>34791666We could have just flown around and shot at him but nooo.
>>34791686>>34791673He's standing on our chest, for fuck's sake. How do you punch someone like that?
>>34791618>>34791666Smite will kill us too.>>34791598Exec_Dictum "Freeze". Use the Meter to quickly restore minimum functionality and smash his chest in with the Midas Arm.
>>34791625It's about to blow up though.>>34791627Hiding as anon obviously.
>>34791703With a rocket-assisted punch.
>>34791598>ASSAULT SHROUD: 2%>>34791598>rearing back for a double-fisted blow-hhahahah holy shit. Muleta his exposed core with the single tendril of cape we have left, drag ourselves up to him with the prehensile stabby tendril - and....>ii) The cost of EXEC_CONSUME is waived. CONSUME.After punching him with or one, good crisis arm. We could really, really, really use some consume healing.... use the muleta as a conduit for the scrander blast, if we have it.
>>34791625Our Scrander's dead, and Exec_Smite is WAY overkill and will drain the fuck out of our Sphere.>>34791598>"-All I need are my *bare hands*-">Aegis brings his fists together overhead, rearing back for a double-fisted blow- If he just punches us instead of being theatrical, he probably wins.We don't need to build up momentum to punch him out. Crisis Arm through his torso while he's winding all the way up, speed it up with our arm-mounted thrusters.
>>34791703Would boosting the carnifex set him on fire and give us some space to hit him?
>>34791728The assault shroud doesn't conduct electricity.
>>34791739Requires 20% charge.We have 18%. Otherwise I would have suggested the same.
>>34791686>>34791680>>34791679>>34791673Why are you opting to fist fight this guyAre you retardedWe're on critical health, and it has been made abundantly clear that he is retard strong. It doesn't matter if our hand is invulnerable if the force will crush our shoulder joint to dust and bring said invulnerable hand right back around to pulp us.We can catch swords because it isn't about the force behind the blow but the sharpness of the weapon. This is like trying to catch a train. Sure, you caught it, except it just carried on going and smashed you into powder against a wall.
>>34791728>After punching him with or one, good crisis arm. We could really, really, really use some consume healing.We don't need CONSUME healing since we can use Meter for that.
>>34791598>Your right arm, however, is pristine but battered.>(You can actually use the Emulator module to clone the Crisis Arm - So you can punch someone with two Crisis Arms at once.)This.We're doing this. Clone our own arm, reach up with one, and SLUG HIM wiht the other - while consuming him.Don't let that hammerblow hit us - use that last shard of the muleta to bind his raised hands at the wrists.and hit him again.
>>34791598Nuts to that. Draw the Plasma Caster jam it against his core and pull the trigger.>>34791739No, we don't have enough to power it.
>>34791754I'm opting to crush his torso with a gravity punch.Not to parry him.Do you have a better suggestion?Vulcan will take a second to react. Any other gun can't be summoned in a suitable time frame.Wait, are our missile racks still working?...Wait, no, that would be a retarded idea.
>>34791752>>34791771Sheet. Do we have a thing to convert something into booster power?
>>34791754Catching his blow is pretty moronic, but trying to beat him to it by snapping him in half with a gigaton rocket right-hook through the midsection seems entirely reasonable.
>>34791756Consume healing is instant.We don't have a lot of meter; and not only does it take a turn to kick in; we're extra vulnerable when it happens.
>>34791713And everyone else shouting code bursts, we have no power to cast with. Only consume with the helix gauntlet can be used. Catch his blow with the good arm, sink in the talons, and feast like Dracula.
>>34791771>Nuts to that. Draw the Plasma Caster jam it against his core and pull the trigger.Had the same thought.But it takes a moment to summon.Do we have that moment?
>>34791768Can't. Other arm is busted. And Muleta doesn't work like that.
>>34791776JUST SHOCK HIM ALREADY.
>>34791796Code Bursts can be powered by the Nihil Sphere.
>>34791804>And Muleta doesn't work like that.But Fortress does.>>34791796Midas Arm is on our right.
>>34791801Fire the last remnant of the shroud into his faceplate as a shrike blade and we do.>>34791788Not enough.
>>34791823No it doesn't. It makes a dome. We don't get to shape it.
>>34791804Who cares? We have a functional midas arm - if we clone a gun, we get a copy? Time to see if we need a base arm to begin with!Midas arm counts as Helix gauntlet. SO we can consume with it. In fact, can probably do *twice*> And Muleta doesn't work like that.>In addition to launching flechettes, the user can control the Shroud as an extension of his own body, allowing him to slash and strike with the Assault Shroud's razor edges - Which are entirely capable of severing limbs. yeah it does. Its stabby whip tendril blades!
>>34791796DON'T CATCH THE BLOW. HE IS STRONGER THAN US.YOU CANNOT CATCH A RUNAWAY TRAIN UNLESS YOU ARE STRONGER THAN THE TRAIN.Rule 1. Don't block what you can parryRule 2. Don't parry what you can dodge
>>34791846Then do >>34791844Either way, we need a short moment to get the first hit in.
>>34791863Consume can't be emulated, that was the first question we asked.And no, we tried using the whips before, it doesn't work like that.
Clone the Midas Arm and then just punch the hell out of him before he can react. Maybe use the Muleta to launch ourselves upwards to assist in that.Maaaaybe pour the Scrander Volt into the punch.
>>34791598"-Trickery," Aegis rasps, his voice low, dire. "Is it only your *armor* that makes you dangerous, Joker?""No. "Laugh."Its my resourcefulness"Snap-draw the Immolator with the midas gauntlet, flame mode, and boost it via Meter. FLAME ON.
What is smarter, grabbing his foot and consuming or just flat-out punching while he's told to freeze?One grants us healing but gives the enemy time, the other might be more than enough.
If there is one thing this situation has thought me its that Joker needs eye beams. I just thought of this but can the heal thing heal interceptors?
>>34791886>Consume can't be emulated, that was the first question we asked.Right, yeah, i remember this. It CAN - if we found the other nihl sphere
>>34791889We can't do any of that. The Midas Arm can't be cloned and you'll get a Crisis Arm instead. The Muleta also can't be used like that and the Scrander will blow up if we use it now.
>>34791898We don't need healing, all we need is to put Aegis down. Healing doesn't help us do that unless it also buys us time for it to restore limb/artifact functionality, which I can't imagine it will.
>>34791598So, he's standing on us.We have a functioning arm.A functioning Crisis arm.PUNCH HIS LEG. He will lose balance.
>>34791914Argh. The Gauntlet itself can't be emulated, it's not just the sphere.
>>34791598>as Aegis brings his fists together overhead, rearing back for a double-fisted blow-Trigger our Inertia-Field right now, early, before it detects a threat incoming - just enough to buy us more time to do SOMEthing
>>34791898What's the point of healing now? The most important course of action is to kill him now. Freezing him is the optimum solution.
>>34791901...Not that we need to git gud and stop being retarded?
>>34791932The Inertia Field is passive.>>34791931Not that guy, but JQOP stated the Helix Gauntlet can be cloned, but it's useless without the second Sphere.
>>34791932>Inertia FieldForgot about this. It's always-on, but it's another point in favor of trying to beat him to the punch (hue). We've got a bunch of very minor speed advantages on that front that end up adding up to something relevant.
>>34791931>Argh. The Gauntlet itself can't be emulated, it's not just the sphere.You're an idiot. You see this this?>>34791598>Joker Quest OP >>You can actually use the Emulator module to clone the Crisis Arm - So you can punch someone with two Crisis Arms at once.)You see that?You're wrong, and we can.
>>34791932We don't control the field, it's a passive ability.
>>34791625>>34791684>>34791813You can't...*reach*...-But you can point. And that's enough.There is a sudden electromagnetic crackle, a distort across your crippled visual feed, the fuzz-wash of ozone. It is a red glare, redder than blood, redder than the most crimson hatred - A red glare that starts in your Tempest Scrander and spreads through you in a tracery of sizzling veins, straining with heat and light like a charred volcanic cone about to split, and blow open under pressure from within.The lightning boils over. It lances out of you, a jagged red bolt, a whiplash discharge of immense energies.The jagged, blinding discharge hits Adamant Aegis head-on. There is no sound: Just a snap shockwave of heat and debris, ripping out from the impact - A slow, widening ball of blinding white light blossoming on your field of vision, your sensors cutting in to banish the glare.In his weakened state, Adamant Aegis has no defense against it. Spontaneous fire erupts along his form - Armor panels blow out. His main reactor dies, as fingers of errant lightning play along the great, fatal rent in his armor. The *snap* of the shock hurls him back, actually *flings* him through the smoke - Without his lance or his shield to stop it, the power of the last, desperate blast hits him full-on, and blasts him away. He crosses the distance in a flightless tumble - hits the far wall, so hard it cracks - and crumples with profound surrender, without a twitch to his limbs.(Continued)
>>34791967The Crisis Arm is not the Helix Gauntlet.>>34791964Can't remember where. Do you have a link?
>>34791948That too, but that's more of a pipe dream then anything.
>>34791990Oh... that was easy enough.
>>34791990Huh, I was pretty sure we wouldn't have nearly enough charge left for a substantial Crash.Kind of glad to be proven wrong there, I suppose.
>>34791990We are so fucking lucky
>>34791990Let's see if the Leech Module kicks in.
>>34791598>Your Tempest Scrander is merely twisted metal spalling - Metal spalling that flickers with uneasy charge, the core reactor growing hot at your back - the vanes crumpled and warped upon themselves.Alright. VETO on scrander, because self-explosion bad.YES on inertia-field giving us time to do somethign.YES on getting a second arm - IF WE CAN, because point of contentionIF WE CAN, then crisis-punch knee to to throw balance off - and consume.Other arm cowboy quick-draws the Immolator from holter, and meter-boosts him to roast him alive as he topples over.Remaining meter to healing.Preperatory action to induction-boost out of the way of a punch.Free action to shit-talk a la >>34791897and something i'm forgetting. if the nihl can still channel codebursts, by all means.
>>34792023We hardly used the Scrander at all during this fight, so it's not surprising that it has a lot of charge. I was against using it since I expected it to blow up, though. Wonder if we got a crit?
>>34792023Pray we didn't lose the Scrander.
>>34791990Was that a Nat 100?
>>34792011>The Crisis Arm is not the Helix Gauntlet.>HELIX GAUNTLET has been upgraded to the MIDAS GAUNTLET/HAND OF MIDASYeah it is. Its one and the same now. People's terminology just hasn't caught up
>>34792045Bit late m80.>>34792051Is charge still a concern? I thought v3 didn't have that problem anymore.
>>34792045hahaha well fuck i'm late and i'm glad for it. IGNORE MEWill delete in a second.
>>34792045Not necessary, dude.So, Joker is almost dead.Thread is almost dead.OP is about to fall asleep.We are going full meta.
>>34792071Thry're distinct parts integrated into a whole. The components are distinct and the arm merely changes into them.
>>34791990Pistons ratchet. Your servos grind, as you lever yourself to your feet - Hydraulic fluid oozing from the great rents in your armor, the crusher of your Carnifex retracting. Now it is the world that moves at absurd speeds, and you're the one who is slow. ...And then you hear a groan of metal. Adamant Aegis's hand pushes against the ground. His digits curl around the hilt of his lance, the point digging into the ground as he levers himself upright. "Joker-" he crackles. His hand actuators rack, wearily, as he levels his lance: "...I can *still kill you*-"HP: 40.4%COBALT BOOSTER: N/AASSAULT SHROUD: 2%METER: 23%YOU HAVE CONTROL
>>34792135I thought that fucking thing got unwounded.I suggest shooting him now. With the biggest thing we can.
>>34792135Fortress dome around him.Heal legs until we can walk again.
>>34792135NOW can we smite him?
>>34792135Go for his shield. Use that to block his atrack
>>34792185 here.>>34792182I guess this also works.Plasma Caster to the face.
>>34792185(My apologies: While this is a viable strategy, the strength of the Fortress Mode is based around the remaining capacity of the Assault Shroud. At 2%, it wouldn't hinder him very much.)
>>34792135>YOU HAVE CONTROLMeter/Emblem to restore a Rifle Bit - maybe 2Unleash it. Meter/Boost it for armor penetration.Core him while he crawls his way up.harassing fire while he can't dodge actually is the......Backpack Missiles are Hands-Free. FIRE AT WILL, COMMANDER.
>>34792135Chain Mine him. The moment he trie to dodge use the Nihil Sphere to power Exec_Dictum "Freeze">>34792185>Fortress>with 2%What is even the fucking point?
>>34792208can you clarify what we DO have working?Abduction jets partially functional? torso systems?>>34792229
>>34792051It wasn't about a depletion of charge, it was about it being damaged severely enough that it could no longer hold us aloft.In retrospect, I think re-arming the Sinistral for 5% meter and using it to concussive-blast him would've been an alright plan if its infrastructure was still intact.>>34792135He needs to charge up another boost to get over to us with his lance; we've got enough time and distance now to arm a weapon and unload before he can do so.Plasma Caster should be really effective at this range now that he no longer has the mobility or armor to dodge or block it effectively.
>>34792208Well, shit.Then it's time for a ranged attack. Even if I would have preferred our fists.
>>34792135Fire one last chain mine. "Maybe next life, Aegis."
>>34792196That thing exploded to bits.>>34792203Plasma Caster is a relatively close-range weapon. It's best to use something with more reach.
>>34792266>Plasma Caster is a relatively close-range weapon. It's best to use something with more reach.Using tau as a "fuck you" to its original ineffectiveness would also be nice.
>>34792229bleh hit enter early.I don't think we can use the nihl sphere like this - otherwise we would have.Two Light Weapon Holsters. (IMMOLATOR and ION BLASTER)Grab whichever one's on the side with our working arm, and unload, repeatedly, with whatever boost we can throw into it through the midas gauntlet.Also missiles. regular, dumbfire, triskelion missiles
>>34792135Man, he fought harder than anyone we've seen yet. Seems a real waste of a fighter... but we have our path to walk.>>34792254Go with this.
>>34792135>HP: 40.4%Remember when this was about half of our HP?Maybe we should go hunting Correctors without any Relics. To steel ourselves.
>>34792135>: "...I can *still kill you*-""Can. Won't. Good fight though."
>>34792266The upgrade improves its ranged payload somewhat, and it's not like we were ever really that far from him. It's an arena.We know he's damaged, but we are absolutely most concerned with stopping power. I'd much rather have something that we can point at him and fire in a straight line rather than dropping a chain mine and having to wait for it to deploy to get him.
>>34792321It deploys en route.
>>34792314I guess congratulating him would fit.Not in a gloating fashion. Just in a "you are fucking awesome" manner.
>>34792306>Maybe we should go hunting Correctors without any Relics. To steel ourselves.we should do some back-to-basics fighting/training tho
>>34792284>I don't think we can use the nihl sphere like >this - otherwise we would have.We can. It is explicitly stated in the Armory that the Nihil Sphere can be used to power Codebursts.>CODEBURSTS can be fuelled by the COBALT BOOSTER, or the energies of the NIHL SPHERE.I would prefer not to, to be honest. Using it now feels like a waste since it is fully charge and might be more useful, but I think it's mya be necessary to ensure victory.
>>34792345The problem is people aren't using the arsenal, not that they have problems fighting.
>>34792345Together with Hisao.We could do one of those "experienced combatant downgrades himself to do raids with his protege" things.
>>34792345>we should do some back-to-basics fightingIt's time for round 2 with Haze now that he's been upgraded so he can get a little bit of payback for our throwing him around the first time.
>>34792282I support this. As well as >>34792254. Just alpha strike him with whatever we can really.>>34792292>Man, he fought harder than anyone we've seen yetNot really, he fought hard but you are forgetting some hard fights. Remember bomberman? What about jet guy?
>>34792368If I'm motivated, I'll draw a crude image that maps out our equipment with color-coded flow charts that mark access requirements.
>>34792135>YOU HAVE CONTROLSo, uh..... >However, you can avoid this delay by holstering the HAILFIRE CHAINGUN in your Heavy Weapon slot. Which we have, per >>34786712.... can we whip out the chaingun, hook it up to THE TALOOOOONNNN, and let loose just as he's clawing his way up?because that's kind of hilarious.From the looks of it, its.... just as fast as drawing any other weapon, and our right hand CAN one hand it. And the bullet velocity might even scoot us back away from him!
>>34792396....this fucking nigga.Let's do it. What could possibly go wrong?
>>34792292>Man, he fought harder than anyone we've seen yet. Seems a real waste of a fighter... but we have our path to walk.Nah, it's just that his powerset is good for countering most of our usual tactics. He's not nearly as good as Kaiser, Bomberman and Ixion.
>>34792391Before I do this:Does anyone know a free tool like Adobe Illustrator?I would like to be able to easily edit the chart when new equipment arrives. That's not possible with a drawing program, even by using layers.
>>34792391Access isn't the issue, they have a hard time identifying what item/weapon to use when. That's why Joker cooked Zoauve and why he's missing most of his body at the end of Ixion, and why Aegis took him to school.
>>34792249>>34792203>>34792182The smoothbore barrel of your Plasma Caster forms around your right fist, as Aegis begins to charge. His thrusters sputter, at his back - His heels scraping against the battered stone of the ground, drawing sparks, a crackling roar wrenched from his speakers-...You fire. The blasts engulfs him, mantles him in flame. A sooty eruption swirls in the air- He comes on anyway. Your second shot exploits the hideous damage that's been done to his torso, punching through his spine in a cohered plasma blast - You actually see his internal structure come apart, erupting out his back as the light in his optic sensors flicker to nothing...And then Adamant Aegis's lance punches into your left shoulder. Gripped in a charred hand, it rakes to the side in a violent spasm - Your armor giving way with a last, tortured shriek, a grinding wail as your arm - your *entire arm* - comes away, trailing rent cables- A shadow falls over you, dark, slanting - The lethal prow of his lance outthrust. Fire licks beneath his gorget, gnawing at him from within- The next blow never comes. The sound that follows, instead, is of your Essence Accumulators deploying; A whirring haze of emerald motes engulfing you, an incandescent glow that lights you up from within, until you glow with an angel's internal light. And still he stands, locked in place, immolating in eternal fires. After a long, gruelling battle, Adamant Aegis has perished - On his feet.(Continued)
>>34792426Bullshit, he's easily stronger than Enfer and Rust Kaiser would have trouble too. Ixion is the one player we've fought who could break Aegis, and even that's not sure.
>>34792430I haven't checked it out, but one of the utilities mentioned in the /qtg/ pastebin is http://www.lucidchart.com which looks like the easy way to do a basic version of this.Not sure how reproducible/editable the charts are, though.
>>34792466Hahaha, time for healing Joker.Well done OP, this was tense as hell. I was on the edge of my seat all the way through.
>>34792445I want to use access requirements as a structuring feature.Like, all Meter weapons in one linear path. All Codebursts in another. An icon to show that we can convert meter and booster into each other.It would allow all options to be seen at a glance.
>>34792466>After a long, gruelling battle, Adamant Aegis has perished - On his feet.
>>34792478Not really. Aegis mostly relies on his ability to counter his opponent's abilities with his shield.He would be utterly fucked over by Enfer's invisible traps and I don't think he has enough raw strength to beat Kaiser (the lance laser being his only chance).
>>34792510>Hahaha, time for healing Joker.>Well done OP, this was tense as hell. I was on the edge of my seat all the way through.So much truth.Whenever I don't think the stakes can get any higher, they do.Considering where we started, and where we got to? Thatsp retty impressive, JQOP
>>34792466Man, that dude was dedicated.Would have liked some banter with him. Unfortunate that we never had that opportunity.
>>34792568nobody had god lines this tiem
>>34792577And no one used their brains.We really need to get better.My chart will also have icons for specified damage types and the like,
>>34792466Don't forget to leave our Mark the plasma vulcans. Also make a Sword&Shield emblem for Aegis using using the same method.
>>34792598I hope his Hyades appreciated the effort.
>>34792536He stole our leg with his shield. He could do the same to Kaiser. And Enfer needs time to prepare the arena to do the bombs. Aegis would have a hard time damaging Enfer with the bomb blasts, but Enfer would find hurting Aegis equally tough. I think Aegis would win sooner or later.Besides, Aegis was chosen and a favorite to win. Enfer was not. Think on that.
>>34792672Funny how he complains about our tricks, while he himself is stealing material with his shield.A stolen leg is not nice.
We've nearly fallen off the board, panic!
>>34792590I'd like to apply for an exception to that first statement, I suggested the Grips right at the start.
>>34792697And he would have blocked them without some kind of distraction.
>>34792688He wanted a knightly fight. If we'd given him one he might have refrained from using the shield until he started to lose.
>>34792750He baited us into attacking his shield. Because he knew that he can just absorb everything.That's the definition of underhanded.
>>34792721Dictum: Pirouette, man. It's right up there.
>>34792750Everyone is well aware that Joker is a ranged fighter. What kid of "Knightly Fight" did he expect?
>>34792786I would have agreed had he demanded a fist fight with bare fists.
>>34792758...No? His idea was to force Joker to abandon the tricks and traps and fight one on one, hand to hand. That's why he hit the interceptors the first time. It's not until we sliced him up that he changed to kill at all cost.
>>34792750Except he probably wouldn't have started to lose, since it's something he's way better equipped for than we are. Which is kind of why we didn't do it.We're able to go "He was a stand-up guy, and maybe in another life we could've been friends, or at least weird friend-enemies like Iron Ogre.", but we're only able to do that because we survived.First and foremost, Joker is a survivor. All the rest comes after, for good or for ill.
>>34792805Now I feel like an asshole.
>>34792786Everyone has their own idea of what and who Joker is. He assumed Joker would be straightforward amd would change tactics if the tricks wore out.
Two more threads below us.It's getting dangerous.
>>34792805Or he got rid of them because they are a perfect counter to his shield.
>>34792466RED JOKER LEVEL UPhttp://pastebin.com/8t4VJxLQYou turn away, the Hand of Midas clamped to the shattered remnants of your left shoulder. The oriachulum of the arm gleams, shimmers, ripple - The mechanisms purring as they shift and articulate, the glow dispersing; Something has changed, but you're not sure what- Your armor protesting at every step, you bring your hand down, your digits splayed. Violet flames swirl, shedding glowing motes - Guttering fitfully, burning into the uneven stone: Your symbol, writ large, the crooked enigma of a jester's grin-...A flicker of movement, at the very edge of your vision...You look back at the burning remnants of Adamant Aegis, but it's the wrong direction entirely. Instead - At the sloping shadow cast by his fallen shield, the Emblem obliterated by the sweep of your Axel Grips, faint shadows take form: Pale feet, in delicate slippers. Long, lissome legs, silver hair and red eyes - Feathers and lace and black ribbons, winding around slender arms. Another - Stepping lightly, deep green eyes and midnight hair. The silken swirl of their ribbons link the Hyades together, as they move with the poised, trained grace of dancers. Pale fingers touch the scarred surface of Adamant Aegis's shield, lips moving in silent communion.They regard you together, with those arresting eyes. At last, the dark-haired one smiles: A smile that is sweet but achingly sad, as they come apart in a blizzard of feathers. Delicate limbs rippling, ablating with the sound of beating wings- And around the black moon, quietly and without fuss- -Another star goes out.JOKER QUESTEPISODE 105TO BE CONTINUED
>>34792598YeahHe was a worthy foe.
>>34792868(Gentlemen, my sincerest apologies: It is extremely late on my end, now, and I must leave. You have indeed gained a new level - Unfortunately, I must turn in for now, so I won't be able to adjudicate it until the next episode.Time does, indeed, fly when you're having fun.Good night and God bless - You've been a wonderful audience, and I hope to see you again soon.)
>>34792868Meter Accelerator.There's some good shit we can get in there.
>>34792805Well, accepting that would have been dumb. He was monstrously strong, and fast to boot.In a straight brawl, he would have slapped our shit.
>>34792868He had two Hyades? Damn.
>>34792816>>34792827To paraphrase something OP and Wata both said: Survival is the only victory in the Red World, but it's not enough.>>34792868Thanks for running! Next thread ETA?
>>34792895Good night, thank you, and I hope we didn't bungle the date with mio/shooting gallery!Looking forward to explaiing our actions on autopilot next time! God bless and good night.>>34792899Nuh oh!>>34786863Booster Is Life.Arguably, meter BOOST if anything - starting with T2 weapons and exec_power transfer
>>34792868>Something has changed, but you're not sure what-I wonder when we will find out.So, our idea was to get Limiter Attunement as the next upgrade. Even if I would love to do an interesting upgrade first.Also, we can now upgrade our two new relics.Wait, oh shit:[ ] GUARD UPGRADE - INERTIA FIELDAlso, will we ever get the T 2.5 weapons?
>>34792918Truly, he was a man amongst men.
>>34792895It was a great. Do you have any plans on finishing the second chapter of Makai Knight Quest soon?
Come on guys, we said a long time ago it was going to be limiter, so we could speed up Midas.
>>34792967I guess people are disappointed that Midas' change isn't visible yet.We really need to murder more stuff.
>>34792923(Most likely this weekend.)>>34792960(When I can spare the time. Work commitments, I'm afraid.)
>>34792952Doesn't Joker have two?>>34792967Oh right, that was a thing. Limiter it is.