Previous Thread: >>34462842Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TAl_Rh3q0UR3cqX6Pbn-4TnB87BS-GrFrax-ErtOL2E/edit1d4chan page: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/The_/tg/_HeresyContinuing the great tale of the /tg/ Heresy! All fluff, drawfags, writefags, founding legions, and successor chapters welcome!
>>34467475First for spooky scary skeleton legion
>>34467513THIS JUST IN, ROOK IS ACTUALLY A FUCKING MUTATED BAT PERSON!I CALL THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE!
Popped out for a few threads. Are we still creating new Primarchs and Legions, or are we just fluffing out what we've got?
>>34467475Third for Nova Defenders need more stuffs on the wiki
>>34467513>spooky scary skeleton legionSorry, already taken
>>34467475I live!Edited my stuff into the 1d4chan page, anyone got anything to say about it and/or add?
>>34467513Can I has your Dreadnoughts? I can make them better!
>>34467583Not news, why do you think we love him so much?
>>34467588If you have a good idea feel free to share it, please.Everyone should have a chance to join the fun.
>>34467588Fluffing out what we've got, mostly. We're making pretty awesome progress, and our wiki page got cleaned up a bit.
So are the Stone Men still a thing?
>>34467638A cool but not really connected thing, yeah.
>>34467475I am in need of a name. The one thing (other than math) that I am crap at..
>>34467620I call hypnotic...vampire....poow...eeeerssssssssssssss......OH HELLO ROOK, HOW CAN I HELP YOU TODAY?WHY, YOU WANT ALL MY TANKS?WHY SURE PAL, IN FACT, TAKE A FEW OF MY SHIPS!
>>34467503They don't not recover quickly, they do not recover at all. They do not recruit, every casualty is a permanent loss for the legion.
>>34467678Alright. If that's reflected in the legion and their tactics, then that's fine.
>>34467672I think the previous Primarch's name for the spears, Maranthos Egille, was pretty cool, but I've forgotten, have the Spears changed their image? When I last checked, they were kinda Greco-Roman (much like the Scions) and were all about perfection, which led them to Slaanesh.
>>34467638we're here hard as ever
>>34467414We came up with a bit of backstory, and mine definitely did piss off the Mechanicus and Empy for messing with shit we weren't supposed to have, and making backdoor deals with some Adepts to boost my own tech levels
>>34467676>>34467583>yfw in 40k Rook comes back as a Tzeench Deamon Prince revealing his true form.
>>34467676Also he faked his death and still runs the whole Nova Defenders and Successors statelet from beneath his Tower of Blood.
>>34467735I've taken over their slot, and tossed out the rest. I was feeling a Russian/eastern European vibe at the time, combined with martial arts and Canadian-tier snipers.
>>34467763>>34467766I FUCKING KNEW IT.
>>34467715Well, they have a great deal of apothecaries and very heavy armour, so they don't suffer casualties often. Erebos will only commit his Entombed if he believes there is no significant risk of casualties. Those who are mortally wounded are immediately interred in dreadnoughts.Still, we're slowly dwindling in number.
>>34467775>Russian>snipersIf your legion is not called White Death, you're blowing it.
can you guys tell me what you think about this?larger than usual, brutish, and slow The Stone Men are hulking behemoths of space marines. clad in a stony ore found in asteroids and wielding powerfists and meltaguns, they are nearly indestructible, yet moderately small in number and almost completely unable to increase the size of their ranks. they are all rather simple, preferring to stay away from politics and intrigue. they know only one thing: the enemies of the Imperium are great. we must be greater.CONT.
If I wanted to make a successor chapter, is there any template I should follow?Also, does anyone want a successor chapter? I;\'m kind of on the fence.
>>34467804Onyx was a massive ox of a man, 20 ft tall and with the strength to almost rival that of the emperor. he was simple, however, certainly not a learned scholar. he landed on a slightly primitive agri-world, where he quickly became a great leader. he saw evil men in the thrones of power, and used his incredible strength to destroy said thrones; usually with the evil men inside of them. they would often try to bribe him, convince him, tell him "you are the real menace!". he listened not to the words of these politicians. they angered him. after becoming the ruler of the planet, the emperor and his crusading astartes came to retrieve him. after his history of mistrust of politicians, he challenged the emperor to a duel. the emperor tried to tell him that he was his father, but onyx would not listen to his words. tired, the emperor convinced him to settle for an arm wrestle. the match lasted for 3 days, and on the fourth, the table shattered, leaving the two remaining for 12 hours. at the very last minute, the emperor drove onyx's tiring into the ground, fracturing the granite. onyx finally accepted the emperor's words, knowing that only his true father could beat him in a test of strength.Cont.
>>34467800Alright, makes sense>>34467803He was Finnish, but yeah, that may be a title for the top sniper in the legion.
>>34467763>>34467766YES!PLEASE I BEG OF YOU!Make them the Chapter that the Blood Angels/Night Lords were supposed to be!Really nice on the surface, but in secret they are a fucking terror legion, the only reason they look weak is because they haven't had any blood for a while!I FUCKING PLEAD TO YOU!IT WOULD BE EPIC!Just make them the Blade-esque vampires, I wouldn't say go fully on, mutated bat people...maybe give them wings and the black rage.YES, WINGS!
>>34467832Before the great heresy, the Stone Men were over 50,000 strong, and commanded the largest and most powerful guns in the Imperium. They maintained a fleet of over 1,000 ships, the greatest of all being Mount Everest, the largest battle-barge ever created. from their fortified rocky homeworld, Neolithus, the Stone Men were an unrivaled force in the galaxy. their undoing, however, came from an even greater force from outside of this universe. the forces of chaos repaid the hubris of the Stone Men by besieging their homeworld and slaughtering their brothers. Neolithus was consumed by the warp, and tzeentch smiled a wicked grimace. the remaining 15,000 marines and the entire fleet traveled to Isstvan, pursuing a distress signal from their fellow astartes (whom they thought were also being assailed by chaos). they arrived to find their own battle brothers fighting each other, and the confused chapter launched a full-on assault into the frenzy. after the loyalist marines fleeted thanks to the massive diversion the Stone Men created, the Stone Men themselves retreated, unwilling to risk the massive casualties they had endured on their homeworld. the remaining fleet managed to escape to holy terra. onyx wished to seek guidance from his father, but when he arrived he found that even terra itself was under attack! they attempted to defend the sol system from hordes of ravenous daemons and chaos space marines.Cont.
>>34467840You can slow down on the caps, champ.
>>34467803He was Norwegian.
>>34467860 this ended in disaster when the pride of the Stone Men, the great Mount Everest summit-class battle barge was besieged by chaos. in a last ditch effort to ensure the survival of the remaining Stone Men, the Grand Admiral regis Tungsten and a force of 5,000 naval marines held their ground long enough to let the remainders escape. the Admiral then sent the battle barge careening into the eternal flames of the sun, ensuring it would never fall to chaos. (although reports suggest that it may have been salvaged from the warp by the ruinous powers themselves, so great its power was) weakened and only 7,000 in number, the stone men forsook the Imperium, retreating into deep space. they locked onto the farthest object they could find and disappeared for 10,000 years.New reports from far flung fringe worlds describe a possible return of the Stone Men. Imperial forces under attack by tyranids reported meteorites using warp-travel bombarding tyranid forces. They also describe 12 ft tall astartes in ancient, cracked armor smashing and melting entire swarms with archaic weaponry. it is this Inquisitor's opinion that the Stone Men are out there, right now, safeguarding the imperium from threats unknown. things even we may not comprehend. they are silent guardians, waiting at the gates of the milky way, waiting for the enemy.
>>34467804Stonemen is my favorite legion. I think the fact that no one talks about them makes them even cooler.>>34467840I've been tossing around the idea of having a second founding traitor legion dedicated to Tzeench since the beginning, but I wasn't sure if it was a good idea.>>34467875>>34467833Someone needs to go look up what he was now.
>>34467900Simo Hayha confirmed for Finn.
>>34467866Oh, I apologise for my evident lack of boredom.I'll flagellate myself with the no fun allowed whip.
drawfag here, looking to make each primarch a portrait which primarchs are the most described?
Posting here since old thread is old:So the Nova Defenders are the Imperial Guard made Marines?What can turn their teamwork into something that isn't done better by the Imperial Guard and that would actually have them survive a Galaxy KNOWN for crushing billions.At least the Ultramarines have a book inspired by the brightest military genius of all times. They have an entire empire that provide them resources.Your Primarch only has a barren rock and good feelings................................................................................. and he uses shields lol
>>34467900Stone Men are my favorite too. Visually and conceptually they're really cool. Flying out of the dark of space to kill renegade and loyalist alike with giant asteroids. Cool as fuck.
>>34467900He's Finnish. Norway is a ways off. Plus, I think he was killing Russians. Or was it the Germans? I think Germans, but it seems wrong for some reason.
>>34467927I'm a 20 ft. tall guy in rock armor
>>34467937You should be careful, Stonemen and Entombed seems like they share the same theme and domain.
>>34467929Who let Matt Ward on here?>>34467944He was killing Russians, though. The Russians invaded Finland, and Germany sent aid in exchange for joining the cause
>>34467929Also, I don't shit about their Marines in the wiki or 1d4... What gives?
>>34467969described as in how your face looks
>>34468010A 20 ft face?Anon, have you been hitting the acid again?
>>34467991Yeah, I knew they were both involved, I had just forgotten how.
>>34467929>Your Primarch only has a barren rock and good feelings>and he uses shieldsAnd he's a pretty great strategist, with dedicated soldiers.>>34467991>>34467944I thought he was a russian soldier who killed 200 some NATZIS>>34468010I think I posted a description in the last thread.
>>34467900>>34467937thanks>>34468010brutish, stoic, um... stone-like?I'm gonna have to figure out what hairstyle he hasImma go get my catalogue
>>34467927Inferox the Burned King is one of the tallest Primarchs, his armour emitting flames from many ports all across it that wreathe him in fire. He has two massive flame-claw gauntlets. His skin is dark and his features middle eastern. Fire-Priests of Zoroaster inspired.
>>34468049Nope. Finnish sniper that killed 300+ Russians and Germans. Don't think they were Nazis yet.
>>34467927>Primarch Kleisthenes>Average height and bulk by Primarch standards, short light-brown hair, and deep-set grey eyes, lending him with a focused countenance. he was a man who carried himself with an air of determination and authority.Color scheme is pic related, though make the armor more primarch-y, of coursePlease and thank you, good anon :D
>>34467927shorter, lankier than most Primarchs. Skin is tanned/Native American in color. carries a spear, wears a camo cloak. Jump Pack optional, haven't decided yet.
>>34468010>Rook has long wavy brown hair. Like Curze long. He has tan caucasian (totally not Italian) skin with gaunt features. Pronounced cheek bones, sunken cheeks and eyes, and a thin face. His most notable feature is his smaller stature. Not as tall as the other primarchs, and definitely not as strong.
>>34467927Tollund Ötztal looks inuit/siberian, his armor wreathed in furs and with a great spear of mastodon ivory shaped like a barbed harpoon.
>>34468049He'd have to be THE greatest strategist ever to compensate everything he is not.Everyone and their mothers has dedicated soldiers in 40k. BETTER they have Zealous, Fanatical, Warped soldiers too? Are you going to top that with good feelings again?And now I don't see anything on your Legion and Marines in the docs and wiki. probably why I thought they were bland.Do they inherit the weakness of their Primarch too?
>>34468072ok can you elaborate more on his head, haircut/headdress/scars etc as I said it's just a face portrait
>>34468049>>34468074Kill count closer to a thousand.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4
>>34468112>>34468100I'm telling you man.They need some pantshittingly terrifying reason for being so weak and nice.
>>34468109>>34468096ok can you elaborate more on his head, haircut/headdress/scars etc as I said it's just a face portrait
>>34468120 No hair, face is middle eastern, and yet there'd be burn scars on his chin and cheeks.
>>34468096>>34468120For mine, shoulder length or longer black hair, soft features for a battle-hardened genetically constructed monstrosity. Basically, looks like a guy who doesn't win by direct actions. If that makes any sense.
>>34467929>What can turn their teamwork into something that isn't done better by the Imperial GuardImperial Guard are trained to follow orders without question. When no orders come, they have no answers.Nova Defenders are trained to understand their place in a greater whole. Half the point of Rook's Gambit is that he'd built a legion that didn't go to pieces when he died.
>>34468148I bet that's his face he is describing.
>>34468126Uh, it says 505 confirmed. Still off from my 300, but not quite 1000.
>>34468112He only has one real handicap. They're just not as crazy strong as the other legions.>>34468148Neither him or his army are particularly nice. Sarcastic? Yes. Easygoing? Sure. But he doesn't go around looking for kittens in trees. In fact he didn't even want to fight in the civil war until he lost his best friend.>>34468195Not exactly, but close. Again, this entire thing started with self inserts.
>>34468192They still rely on something that is everything but effective in 40k IF you are not already strong.They are not strong.Teamwork works with the Imperial Guard because they strong in -numbers-.Why would it work for the Nova Defenders?
>>34468216okay, does it list his smg kills, though? I know he had a fuckton of those. My memory's bad, kept all this shit memorized years ago, must be mixing stuff up. Dude was still awesome though.
>>34468192see>>34468253>Not exactly, but close. Again, this entire thing started with self inserts.Why are you even here? This legion is going to be a walking joke.
>>34468257Because they're middle ground between IG and Marines. They have lower numbers than the IG, but they're stronger. They're weaker than most Marines, but they swarm well. It sort of balances itself out.
>>34468219Drawfag gonna drawfag?Don't mind if I chime in?Pale skin tone.Face is angular, though not unattractively so.Bony cheeks.Emerald green eyes and long shoulder length silvery hair, bit of a shine to it.note that is pre-heresy, after the heresy his features darken much more, the pale white becomes a light shade of grey, his eyes harden, growing dark circles under them/ and his hair turns a dull grey
>>34468257>Why would it work for the Nova Defenders?It may be news to you, but Space Marines actually have formidable armour and weaponry. You know there's such a thing as ranged combat, right?
>>34468313Great they will be the Stormtroopers of 40k,Everyone will kill them in masses to show how badass they are.
>>34468313We have the ecclesiarchy and stormtroopers to do that, anything else?
>>34468300I don't believe so, but those are a bit less important.
>>34468345Oh YES, and I'm sure they will be mooooorre than willing to WASTE the MOST precious resource in the Imperium (adamantium) in some lesser Astartes.
>>34468313This is probably a mistake. Mechanically, I'd write them as ranged-combat focused Space Marines with some nice psychological benefits. "Weakest of the marines" doesn't have to mean S3, just the lower end of S4.
>>34468374True, but having triple-digit kills with one of those is still holy shit balls impressive. I'll have to do research after work, but I THINK he had around 200-250, and I was adding that number to the sniper kills, then re-adding it as submachine gun kills to get that totally way too high number.
>>34468412>Let's kit out the least stable most kill-crazy bloodlines and make heaps more of them>That can't possibly go wrongWhat you're posting is retarded. You might be pretending, or you might have a really good auto-correct, but either way it's not constructive.
>>34467975I don't see how they're at all similar
>>34468302>Why are you even here?Because so far most of the people here like my legion, and anonymity means I don't have to care what you people think about me.>>34468357>>34468359You guys are way to fixated on the physically weaker thing. Their whole gimmick is they are just as strong as other legions because they know how to fight smart. They blockade and pick people of at range while the enemy advances. Eventually they reduce the enemies forces to a point where it becomes an even fight in the assault phase. Sometimes the wall of fire is enough to just star pushing the enemy back.I'm going to go eat. Be back later.
>>34468148>They need some pantshittingly terrifying reason for being so weakHow weak do you think they are? Stats-wise?
>>34468494Are you fucking serious?You obviously have no idea about 40k is you really think those kill-crazy bloodlines are not an asset.On a meta level, all those Legions are strong, but they also have a weakness that make them interesting. Like the Blood Angel and the Black Rage.Just being weak is NOT a good trait, either in the setting or in the storytelling.
>>34468511> You guys are way to fixated on the physically weaker thing. Their whole gimmick is they are just as strong as other legions because they know how to fight smart. They blockade and pick people of at range while the enemy advances. Eventually they reduce the enemies forces to a point where it becomes an even fight in the assault phase. Sometimes the wall of fire is enough to just star pushing the enemy back.Yes, I'm sure this will work against all the others Legions.Or Orks.Or Tyranids.
>>34468627Unlike you, I know that most canon Successor Chapters come from the Ultramarines, who are not the most kill-crazy psycho chapter. Not even close.Recommend a little more reading. I'd suggest thought, too, but that's setting the bar a bit high for you.
>>34468713So, somehow the kill-crazy bloodlines suddenly have no value because there are one that are stable and more calm.You are a freaking idiot.You are the one that need to read.
>>34468767>So, somehow the kill-crazy bloodlines suddenly have no value because there are one that are stable and more calm.That's what it's like in canon, buddy.
>>34468689Meng, It's just the rough outline for how they make up for being smaller. They do the opposite of what most legions do. Charge into battle screaming. I'm not Rook, I'm not a brilliant strategist. One of the other things I wrote into the original fluff was the Novas started adapting to Tyranids.
>>34468847Honestly this is getting dumb. You don't like thing. I don't care. Make your own chapter. Show mine to your friends and laugh. It doesn't matter, and it's irritating that we've blown through this many posts about it.I'll be back in an hour or so. I'll be monitoring on my phone. Have any of you guys thought about making an IRC channel?
Can we stop with the arbitrarily aggressive and/or insulting bullshit, please? I have to go to work, now, and we are mostly adults, sitting down to come up with something cool. If you don't like somebody's idea, cool. If not, give some fucking constructive criticism, don't just start bashing their shit. That fixes nothing.
>>34468847Again, the main issue you're causing is not quantifying the ND's strength. If their thing is "Strength 3 Marines", then crazyanon has a point. But I don't think that's what you were going for, and I certainly don't think you should adopt it. (See >>34468420 for a suggested course that keeps the story you've written for Rook.)
>>34468843What are the Blood Angels?They still make tons of those and they have tons of successors Chapters, why?Because despite the instability, their strength and overall abilities is valuable.Better luck next time, newt.
>>34468902>this anon understandsThank you for explaining what I failed to. They're still Space Marines. They just aren't AS fuckoffhueg.
>>34468884You won't stop my fun!I mostly went a little more aggressive because he would not listen.He needs to drop that weak trait, it's useless.He needs to choose between the "best friend" and "isolated for decaded" aspect.He needs to give his legion a strong point. Something better than "we are lesser Marines".That and MANY other things.
>>34468922>What are the Blood Angels?A Legion whose geneseed was once-prized for its perfection but became increasingly suspect due to degeneration. Really good example of what I'm talking about - the killcrazy guys became unpopular relative to the stable dudes.
Any ideas on what to do with the Iron Broncos other than arabic White Scars?
>>34468882see>>34468884He is just going to skulk away and ignore everything that was said to him.
>>34468998Astartes are stronger then humans, so making them weak is a bit stupid.I actually agree with you on these points. Every legion needs a clear theme, from 'We burn shit' that the Sons of Fire have, to 'We all Termies and Dreads' the Entombed have.
>>34469054>Astartes are stronger then humans, so making them weak is a bit stupid.But the Nova Defenders aren't weak. They're the least strong of the Astartes, but still S4.
>>34469087> we are lesser MarinesYou just don't want to use your brain.
>>34469087Well, don't say they're weak then. Say they're unsuited or dislike close combat or something similar.
>>34469015How Arabic are you making them, and which Arabia? Caliphate and beacon of learning? Post-Mohammed desert raiders? The more concrete you are with this, the easier it'll be to write the chapter up.
>>34469132Good first step.
>>34469132The only person really screaming that they're weak is the troll trying to choke this project. See >>34468981 and upthread for sanity and clarity.
>>34469154Yeah, do that, and you have a theme starting up. If the Nova Defenders dislike close combat, then you can take that further. Do they eschew Assault Marines? Do they see close combat as dishonourable, or a waste of time?One small step can lead to a world of flavorful.
>>34469196They see close combat as barbaric.Also, WHY are they named Nova? What is nova about them?The answer could bePLASMA!
>>34469188But what I said is the same bloody thing as >>34468420Make them ranged focused, and ditch all references to them being 'weaker' in any way.All Astartes are the same strength, more or less.
>>34469196It's almost as though Rook-anon should written something like:>>34468511>they blockade and pick people of at range while the enemy advances. Eventually they reduce the enemies forces to a point where it becomes an even fight in the assault phase. Sometimes the wall of fire is enough to just star pushing the enemy back.
>>34469232>PLASMA!>GRAVGUNS!>ELECTRIC SHIT!hell, mad scientists with white hair and goggles for mechanicus would be awesome
>>34469232See? They are a Ranged legion that use large amounts of Plasma Weaponry.Fluffy!
>>34469188That troll is contributing now.Also please nigga, the guy did say they were between IG and Marines.Do you have any idea about the difference between an IG and a Marine? No you wouldn't I bet... That's weak to Marines' standard.
>>34469263Don't we already have that in one of the other Legions, the traitor guys?
>>34469242Some chapters are described as being stronger or more robust without mechanical impact. It's only an issue for autists. Having Rook North himself be the least physically imposing of the Primarchs isn't an issue either - logically one of them has to be the weakest!
>>34469296We don't have those on the Loyalist side I think.
>>34469292>Also please nigga, the guy did say they were between IG and Marines.Really? That's a bit stupid. That's Storm Troopers or Scions. Not genetically engineered post-humans.
>>34469296it doesn't have to be outright tech heresyjust a love for electricity and plasma
Horus Heresy 2: Electric BoogalooOh man, where do I start?
>>34469321That's not an issue IF it is NOT his defining trait.What was his other trait, oh yes, he was FRIENDLY!!! LOL!!!You are trying to hard to defend this mess.
>>34469321I agree. Alpharius wasn't that much to look at either.A Ranged Legion would be awesome, sort of like loyalist Space Marine Tau.
>>34469340Hektor Heresy. No Horse here.
>>34469263BATTLE BARGES WITH MAXIMUM PLASMA!!
>>34469371with lots and lots of lasersand tesla gunsand plasma pistols
>>34469292> the guy did say they were between IG and Marines.Yeah, he did, and I told him it was a mistake. And he listened, because the point was made in a reasonable and constructive fashion by a sane human being.
>>34469334Any update on the haircut or shall I just draw him bald?
>>34469426Well, if he understand that, then all he needs to do is clearly define what his Legion does, and what their role is. After that, the rest falls into place.
>>34469423On the battlefieldTONS OF PLASMA PISTOLSSAFEGUARDS ONLY THEM HAVE TO AVOID PLASCATASTROPHEASSAULT MARINES TO DISTRACT PEOPLESEE THEM GET MELTED BY PLASMAPlasma Defenders, Nova Defenders.
>>34469366>nonsenseMoving on>>34469371>A Ranged Legion would be awesome, sort of like loyalist Space Marine Tau.I hope the Nova Defenders don't go all the way over to that, because they should still fit in the Codex mould. But a bigger focus on ranged combat is distinctive, for sure.
Isn't weakness relative? There are examples of primarchs fighting other primarchs one on one and out of those encounters, only Ferrus has died.
>>34469232Nova is because their entire existence started as a defense force for an incredibly valuable relic called the lighthouse. The Marines look at it like they're defending light. It plays into legion culture.>>34469264I'm a fan of plasma, and I already said they prefer ranged combat. So both these are fine by me.
>>34469366Friendly isn't much of a definition. Does he try to be on good terms with all his brothers? Does he co-operate more closely with the Imperial army, Mechanicam? What does Friendly mean?
>>34469151The Chapter Master is going to be named Salah-adin.
>>34469543Legions aren't founded to defend a single position like Chapters are. Legions are founded for bigger reasons. You don't need 100,000 Marines to guard a single position.And is this Lighthouse similar to the Pharos on Sotha?
>>34469366How many times do I have to say this. He's a lovable dick. He doesn't have shit charisma like most primarchs. You're the only one calling them friendly.
>>34469543Ditch the Lighthouse.It's not like you had any material on it anyway.We have a thing working here, if your Legion is themed around Plasma weaponry, a disdain for Melee and then an affinity for defensive maneuvers against said melee, now we have a battlefield role.
>>34469625So again, this doesn't even count as a noticeable trait. "Loveable dick", this will fare well in 40k.So he is just weak, that's really his only trait...
>>34469615one word: haremsbut seriously, lots of cannons, great siege warfare, power swords, and horses. big, metal horses
>>34469625‘He is so… unpredictable,’ Ötztal answered. ‘He is so prone to extremes, is North. Eager to please, quick to take offence. There is no middle to him. He’s so keen to be your best friend, and then, at the slightest perception of an insult, he’s angry with you. Furious. Offended. Like a child. If he wasn’t my brother, he’d be a political embarrassment and an impediment to the effective rule of the Imperium. I wish Hektor could talk some sense into him.’
>>34469736"What is Terra worth?""Nothing." A beat. "Everything."
>>34469485>Plasma Defenders, Nova Defenders.Wolf guards from Fenris riding wolves...
>>34469757Trying to force the badass?Now he is bipolar.Again, why would anyone care about him, he is just weak.
>>34469808We're not having any of that. We have a Legion who have Mammoths as their sigil, but they don't ride them. They are ice-world tank specialists.
>>34469577You're talking to a troll, Rook is more defined than that. He's more defined than that even in the wiki.
>>34469808You must that idiot who keep trying to make sound remarks about what I say.HERE the link is ASSUMED.Yes, go ponder on it for bit.
>>34469825Trying to define him.You've brought this up, how yould you explain his 'friendliness'? Acting like Vulkan? Being on good terms with normal humans? What say you?
>>34467624Has anyone done a fleet based primarily air-cav force yet? I'm thinking of a force that would hit hard and with loads of planes and artillery.Specialize in information warfare.Based on a feudal culture where planes and starfighters are seen as the horse of the aristocracy.Loyalist because of a disdain for the need to rely on gods and firmly in support of the emperor's vision.
>>34469871down to earth?likeable?sociable?
>>34469615So are these cats going to be fleet-based? Trying to think of the best foil for them otherwise has me thinking... Orks, just because they're the enemy most likely to hang around and scrap for centuries.
>>34469899Are there any Legions that can be taken over? We have 25, we really can't afford to add in any more. It's a clusterfuck even now and most of them are untouched and abandoned it seems
>>34467475Ok, can we have a list of Primarchs who no-one else has touched and who can be taken over and changed?I have no idea which ones are claimed or not.
>>34469902Any update on the haircut or shall I just draw him bald?
>>34469899Half the legions specialise in information warfare. Just saying.Otherwise, it reminds me a bit of what the Void Angels are doing, particularly the contempt for 'gods'.
>>34469871First thing first we need to ditch the whole isolation thing.We can have Rook be charismatic, the one among the Primarchs who can entrace another Primarch either through a smile or well-placed words.But for all that to happen he need to have spent his youth talking to people.THEN having an army capable of fielding many plasma weapons means a civilized high tech planet being being him.Maybe they could be the only legion with a tech that allow the construction of reliable plasma weapons, one they jealously guard.
>>34469939he needs to have a beardnot enough space marines have good beardsand bald
>>34469982No Vanilla Ice haircut?
>>34469971That's actually really good points.I approve.
>>34469936Don''t touch Nathanog.
>>34469919Hardly any have been abandoned. This project just hasn't been going that long.There are also very few Successor Chapters.
>>34469919Advise me and I'll take over a legion>>34469936Same>>34469959Ah, how about warp horror, sort of like a Void Wraith legion? Kinda like shadow spectres rather than Night Lords
>>34469971>We can have Rook be charismatic, the one among the Primarchs who can entrace another Primarch either through a smile or well-placed words.Then he's Hektor-lite.If you want to develop your own dudes, develop your own dudes.
>>34469936Don't touch me, I've got Sors!
>>34469982full on beard like a viking? goatee? santa beard?
>>34470050Don't the Loyalists need a Hektor to smooth things after the Heresy is done?
>>34470050Just shut up.>>34469999To continue. Pretty much he could have that "loveable" trait with having gimmick like "he is a dick sometimes" and "he is bipolar" to be put in.Then they need a dark side as all legions, anyone has an idea for something that could act as their dark side?Traitors? Heretek they have to hide from Mechanicus? Xenos tech?
>>34470039Like Carcharodon air-cav + warp horror. Spectral Terminators which appear out of nowhere, their eyes the sort of thing that eats your soul. Perhaps some of them are blanks. They have a tradition of shamanism, so they disdain the gods, seeing them as an escape for the weak. the real man embraces the beast with in, breaks it, tames it, channels it.
>>34470136without having gimmick like*
>>34469621>>34469675ND was a chapter. It was my homebrew chapter I messed around with a while back. When I saw the first thread I just kind of went, "Oh, ND's are a legion now, and I'm their primarch. Time to fluff it." I'm not cool with ditching the lighthouse entirely, but it doesn't have to be why they were created. Maybe it's just a valued relic on the planet.>>34469727He has two traits. Slightly weaker, and pretty smart. Lovable dick is just his personality. It doesn't factor into the battlefield.>>34469757Whoa now. He's supposed to be level headed. If anything he's just the guy who makes snide comments.I'm eating so my responses might take a while.
>>34470039Current Void Angel fluff has them playing kind-of the Space Wolf role, refusing to break down their Legion and prowling around kicking over anyone (else) who gets too big.
>>34470320Just don't go overboard with it.
>>34470187As I said, you have to stop trying to make this about YOU.This is for /tg/, not YOU.Keep your homebrew to you, if this thing is to be enjoyed by many we have to shape it so that it is.Plus.> slightly weaker> pretty smartAgain you offer NOTHING that could be of importance in 40k, AGAIN I'm going to tell you he need to be THE most intelligent to give him something, and being weak, whatever the degree of weakness is NOT a trait.Ditch the Lighthouse.Unless, you can somehow have it fit with a civilization living on the same planet.Or unless you just want to make this about you.
>>34470355That's a bit harsh. We're not here to berate, simply point out the problems and offer suggestions on how to fix.
>>34470338That I can do. You won't be seeing any flying Sors heads or sleds pulled by Sors.Sors instead of bikes, though, you'll be seeing.
>>34470438What's wrong with it?
>>34470479Don;t we already have a Khorne Legion? We seem to have two Khorne, and only one for each of the other gods.
>>34470389I just want him to finally listen.Gave him as much logical reasons as I could. He still won't listen.
>>34470528If he doesn't listen, then he's beyond hope and there's no point in bashing his head against a brick wall pointlessly.
>>34470503Yes, we do. but the Sons of Fire are far from what a Khorne legion should be.The only thing they could ever offer Khorne is Ashes, that and the guy who made them fluffed them as "cold".Khornates being cold...Khorne need a Legion that actually does its job and offer him the Blood he craves.And that actually kill people with melee weapons.
>>34470187Ignore the trolls. You basically just need to develop more of the fluff. The main problem with Rook and the NDs is when you try to tell people what they're about, rather than showing it with examples.
>>34470549His legion shouldn't be there then.
>>34470593A Flamer Weapon needs to get into close range to use.And the fluff guy changed that to a descent to hot bloodymindedness as the Heresy went along.Your definition of Khorne is narrow. Do you write for GW by any chance?
>>34470091viking to goateesideburns included. perhaps mutton chops as well
>>34470593What's wrong with a Fire-Themed Khorne force? Khorne uses Fire all the time. Fire fears no magic and all. His realm is one of boiling blood, fire and an endless rain of ash.
>>34470614> they don't things I like> they must be trolls> they are touching my pet Legion ;_;If anything I managed to offer some hope for this Legion.It would have been a disaster left as it was.Everyone should be able to contribute here.
No Orky Chapter?
>>34470639Thanks, now that is some beard I'm jealous now
>>34470692How is the progress Drawfag?
>>34470674Balance has to be maintained, and that is hard. Also it's very easy to go from constructive critique to angry ranting.Still, we all have to try our best.
>>34470632>>34470666"MAIM, KILL, BURN"Sons of Fire can only do 2 of those things.The Gorgers can do all three.And offer plenty of non-cremated blood.
>>34470723But the Sons were here before yours, and only you ever seem to complain about them. No-one else says they're not Khorne. Only you have a narrow definition of what it means to be Khorne.Justify why the Sons should be replaced with the Gorgers.
>>34470713on onyx currently doing the shading going to work on the others later
>>34470723Gorgers are just the Fantasy Ogre Kingdoms in 40k. They should worship the Great Maw, not Khorne.
>>34470774thanks dudeI might draw some other chapter's stuff if I get the time
>>34470770Not replaced.But they would fit before as Unaligned.But the guy is pretty much pulling a Rook North and doesn't want to listen to anything. And instead spent his time bending his Legion.
>>34470800also do the nova defenders have a color scheme? cause I'd be willing to do it
>>34470723Who says Khorne needs blood to be delivered to him in a liquid state? Maybe he's OK with getting it vapourised?
>The Argent Legion=>but they were always friendly, if a bit over-bearing with their arrogant nature. How this has changed no-one knows. Judging by the color scheme I'd assume their nice guy attitude was a mask for internal strife possibly relating to gene-seed flaw or personal shame they kept to themselves for whatever reason which boiled over in the wake of the heresy, namley stemming from the unhappiness of it all.Wouldn't be suprised if they had ADVANCED SPESS MAREENE DEPRESSION LACK OF BRAIN PROTEINSSounds 100% Malal bait.
>>34470800NP I can show you how he is going so you can have an idea plus the others can see how theirs will kinda look like
>>34470674Shitty bait. 3/10, you made me reply
>>34470831Considering Khorne doesn't like Malal who is probably the patron of Vampires in 40k, I'd say he hates blood being stolen/lost because it's got to go to tht blood pool of his when people draw it in his name, he only gets royalties to it if it goes away without the namesaying.
>>34470818I did try to take your demands on board. They use flameing weapons as well, and they collect scorched skulls.What can I do to mollify you? Do you just hate the idea of a Fire-Themed Khorne force? Can Khorne not into flames?
>>34470831Just s long as the blood is shed, spilled or vaporized in Khorne's name, I doubt he cares a jot.
>>34470818Some constructive criticism on your legion, Nathan:1. Adding -og to your name doesn't save the primarch from being a shitty self-insert, but you could at least be consistent about it.2. Being a lard-arse is not a super-power. Nor is it particularly Khornate.3. Your section on the Coming of the Emperor basically just says that the Emperor accomplished absolutely nothing. Not even a partial success, kinda got Nathan on the right track. No, just "a galaxy full of enemies to prey upon."
>>34470892Not concepts is MORE than fine. You have the most charismatic Primarch. You have a solid theme and they are all well-fleshed.But you can't be Khorne's favored Legion, that's all, really, just that.Hell you could even claim back that cold mentality they had but that you had to remove to make them Khorne-like.You could have them be liked by Tzeetch through the flames they emit, them being beautiful, vibrant whatever.Or Nurgle, for throught the fire, they make the cycle of life and death advance by cleansing the earth for new growths.You are tied to that Khorne alignment and it bring the Legion down imo.
>>34471054Og is a title, people on the planet add -ul, -og to different names.I'm certainly not white so I can tell you my name is not Nathan. He was named Nathan BECAUSE the civilized natives gave that name to him when he himself was nameless.The Emperor managed to calm what was essentially a Black Rage. And through his contact Nathanog was able for the first time to see above his Hunger. Many meeting with the Emperor in cannon have the Primarch immediately recognize the Emperor as Father.But then Khorne, the Hunger getting more and more hard to control, and all the rest.Nice try though.
>>34471067I saw them as a Legion, that instead of embodying Khorne's bloodlust, as the canon World Eaters do, embody Khorne's Burning Rage. So they burn shit. They burn planets to the crust. A different take on how Khorne's Legion could work. Like yours emphasizes Khorne's eternal hunger for slaughter (Which is a bit Ogre Kingdomsish, but the Great Maw may well be just another aspect of Khorne. I dunno.)The Cold Mentality wasn't actually my idea, it's more the impersonal nature of fire. Fire consumes all. It cares not who is in the way. That was written by the compiler anon as a cold mentality. Not sure how to define that fully though.I'm more then happy to take on whatever can be added to show that they are Khorne. A different aspect of him, how his burning rage consumes everything.
>>34467475Ok, I have a bit of a tendency to be longwinded, but to be fair, over these past few threads I've written a lot about my Primarch, and been given a lot of good ideas by other Primarch anons (and anonymous anons too, you know who you are).I've more or less finished the *first draft* of my Primarch's history, so please review it and let me know what you think. There's a few places where I still need ideas from people, namely who snapped Arelex out of his madness after the near-extermination of his Legion, and which Primarchs were friends with him, (some of whom are true friends, some of whom are Traitors exploiting his social blind spots).
>>34470822hey nova defender guy, I did this for youand now I'm going to bed
>>34470818Many of the Legions are still nebulous. Of course the anons would want to define and flesh them out.
>>34471067This from a guy who thinks Khorne would accept the deal>The offer was too good for the Gorges to pass on, pledging their allegiance to Khorne and promising the remains of their hunts to the Skull Throne>the remains of their huntsYou don't give the scraps to Khorne. You just don't.
>>34471202Tone down the "neon-ness" of it, dude, and I think it'll be better. Less eye-searing at any rate. Rule number 1 of the Space Marine Painter, don't ever have really bright, really saturated colors, it makes them look comical and bizarre.
>>34471196'fraid I've not a clue. I still need to figure out which of our Traitors killed me during the Heresy.
>>34471219See Tome of Blood.Hunters give the first blood to Khorne for the good hunt. "He Who Hunt Ahead of the Pack"Nice try again.
>>34471142You're not fucking listening, man. Talking to the Emperor should CHANGE Nathan. He shouldn't just see it as an opportunity to keep stuffing his face, which is exactly what you've got down at the moment.
>>34471188You could still revere Khorne without being THE Khorne Legion.How will it be for the bands that will descend from the Sons of Fire, will some finally rip and tear stuffs?They will probably stick to Fire.We need a Legion that actually does that, rip and tear.
>>34471277The Gorgers could be a breakaway force from the Sons. Traitors have their share of renegade warbands. The Gorgers decided that burning everything was wasteful and decied to hunt and spill blood instead.Also is this your totem?
>>34471277And again, you don't fucking listen. Giving the first blood is an honour, giving the remains is an insult. Don't you understand the difference? The guy who eats first is in charge. You've made a legion that Khorne works for.
>>34471325It's Nathanog, not Nathan.And the meeting DID change him, again he was able to control his Hunger.Nice... try?Oh and I know what you are trying to do. But I'm not like those guys, I made that Legion just to show that a Khorne legion that was not just endlessly raging berzekers was possible.This is not MY legion.The moment you come with sensible argument instead of dumb spite, I will accept them, ok?
>>34471359see >>34471399>The moment you come with sensible argument instead of dumb spite, I will accept them, ok?
>>34471399That's also what I was trying as well. A Khorne Legion that wasn't just endlessly raging berzekers, but one that's the unbound fires of Khorne's Rage.
>>34471446Yes, but unlike our Legions that can be based on anything, the Chaos Gods are still the Chaos Gods, even in that AU.You still need the core aspects of Blood, Martial Violence, that are tied to Khorne.
>>34471509You seen burn victims? Blood flows from burns quite easily. The skin is weakened and the blood can push through more easily.Burning the foe, and hacking their scorched forms apart with axes and swords. It would take too long to just burn the foe to ash on the battlefield, that's after the battle is done.
>>34471546Yourr guys are going to use Flamers for the 40th century.No blood will flow, if anything I would be surprised ANYTHING but ashes remains.
>>34471584Why not modify those flamers so they don't just burn the foe away? If the Sons deliberately want their foes to suffer, to burn and bleed before they die?So instead of using the usual munitions, they use a type that doesn't disintegrate everything immediately.
>>34471584nigga do you even napalm?
>>34471622> suddenly they use flamers that don't burn that wellThis right there is the problem.You have to make compromises, again and again to have them be Khorne-like.If you would just have them be unaligned, you wouln't have to do all that.
>>34471664Isn't that the point? To compromise to fit the theme? Our Legions are currently in a state of flux. Some ideas are down, others need to be implemented.The Sons have a basic idea, Fire-Using Khornates. They just need to be fluffed up to fit.And I see no issue with compromise. That's what everyone else is doing, that's what the BL and GW people did for their creations.
>>34471716I don't have to do that for the Gorgers...They just fit...
Alright, be seeing you all tomorrow. Have fun, everyone, and remember that what you do this day, you do for the Emperor.
>>34471622While I'm surprised that we're still arguing over this 4 threads later, I'm just gonna add my two cents and say (1) Technically, death, violence, slaughter, blood, and skulls are what feed the Blood God. Pain and suffering of enemies actually feeds Slaanesh, so those aren't maximized *intentionally.* (2) A fire-based legion is still totally Khornate, because they still slaughter their enemies and give their ashen skulls to the Blood God.In other news, I may be going to sleep soon in the next half hour, so if we hit >300 posts soon, someone else will have to make the new thread.Also, friendly reminder that all /tg/ heresy threads (this one included) have been archived (courtesy of yours truly) and the links are available and labeled on the first page of the /tg/ Heresy google document.Be excellent to each other, and party on, dudes!
>>34471748They feel more like Ogre Kingdoms adapted for 40k then an actual Khorne Legion.
>>34471787If you're not burning to inflict pain and suffering, but to kill, then it's Khornate. Plus, there's no martial lust, or desire for perfection and excess.
>>34471787Last thing I'm gonna say.There won't be skulls left.Just ashes.
>>34471811That's exactly what I was saying.
>>34471904Don't you need to scorch the flesh off of skulls to give them to Khorne?Otherwise you're just giving him heads.
Bumping with Onyx hope I did good
I posted my color scheme several times.Also, brace for rebuilt fluff.
>>34472010Eagerly waiting for this.
>>34472032Are you the person who does these?Because if you're not, holy fuck you're spookilly close.
>>34467475So... are the Silver Cataphracts still not taken?Can I write for them?
>>34471954Interpretations vary, 40k canon being what it is. That said, this argument really needs to stop, as it's becoming exceptionally unproductive and unhelpful to all sides. My two cents are that if the flame is part of a ritual preparation of the bodies for Khorne, then it's ok. Fire is a major part of their arsenal, but the finale is always the severing of skull from spine, and the consecration of that blackened skull to the Blood God. >>34471546This is a valid interpretation. Having been burned myself before, it is quite often a bloody affair. >>34471584I think you should give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume that 40th century super warriors are roughly equal to 40th century flame.Why not just say that any enemies that are totally disintegrated or whatever are *clearly* unworthy of being offered to Khorne? Only those whose bones are stubborn should be a true tribute. Otherwise you're just offering Khorne weaklings, yeah?
>>34472032Holy shit. You wait for everyone to go to bed to show this masterpiece?
>>34472032Are you a wizard? Cause he's >>34472058totally right, that's very like the canon Primarch portrait style.
>>34472032Is your name rachel pierce by any chance?
>>34472093http://rachelpierce.carbonmade.com/projects/4448881This is the actual Primarch Illustrator for FW's thing. That art up there looks exactly the same.
>>34472065This guy from the Children of Amok suggested we could just be two legions that competed for Khorne's favor. So far it seems like how it's going to be. Still think it would be better for him to go Unaligned.>>34472032By the Gods, uuugghhhh I need one for Nathanog now...
>>34472069>>34472058>>34472093>>34472109Thanks I'm glad I pleased, and i am not the one that did those I just replicated the style thank you for feedback>>34472140Just give me his description (face wise and any armor/headdress he wears)
>>34472140Inferox became a Daemon Prince. Did the same happen to Nathanog, or did he die in some way?
>>34472061I think they're available, though someone can certainly correct me if I'm wrong. >>34472140I think maybe just let this debate rest for now. Let both sides think a little, and see if the Sons of Flame guy can tweak his lore to find a good middle ground.
>>34472200I am trying to tweak the lore, because the Gorger guy is right in some parts, though I think he;s also sticking a bit too close to the more narrow definitions of Khorne in others.Still, we're elegen/tg/entlemen here, and I don;t want to come off as a troll. We can work something out.
>>34468167Inuit face, with tusk-tatoos on each cheek. Long hair, bare face, a comm-link in one ear.
>>34472200Alright. Can you give me the cliff notes version of how this Heresy is different from the regular one, besides the new Legions?
>>34472334It's a massive clusterfuck at the moment, but it seems that the zealot's Primarch corrupted Hektor (Alternate Horus), there was battles at Isstvan III and V, and a lot of stuff that makes no sense.Also instead of Magnus, it was an AI that caused the collapse of the Webway Project caused by one of the Traitor Legions who fell to the Dark Age of Technology or something.
>>34472334Fuck, even we have no fucking idea what happened. We can't even get right what Legions were at Isstvan V.
>>34472334Wow, you don't ask for much, do you? In all honesty, so much has been going on that I couldn't answer you yet, and much of the lore hasn't been written yet. I've been typing my ass off for the past couple hours, and I've still only managed to put a little flesh on the outline of my Primarch and his Legion.
>>34472428In case anyone's curious, my legion was there. And we got blown the fuck out, and the War Scribes' Primarch went a little BSOD, followed by a post-traumatic rampage in the Ultima Segmentum caused by the crushing weight of his failure to step up and be the commander his Legion needed at Isstvan.
>>34472402>>34472428>>34472432SO GO WITH WHATEVER I WANT ANONS? SURE THING!I'll get a Primarch, Homeworld and even a story for the Legion done soon.
>>34472190Planning to have him die.He would be too bloodthristy after the Heresy to sit on a Daemon planet and be a Daemon Prince.>>34472187A face like pic related, but with a more square jaw.A mouth with really visible strong muscles with big protruding fangsA kind of Glassgow Smile with muscles around the mouth indicating his mouth can be extended into something bigDespite those he must looks handsomeDark black hairs, braided. tribal Jewelery on the near the eyes maybe.
>>34472334Ok, from what I can tell1) Aubrey was censured for Xenos loving by the Emperor and the Knights of Justice2) He is directed by Starikov of the Children of Armok to a world where Chaos-Worshipping Xenos live, and he is corrupted.3) In service to Chaos, he engineeres the fall of Hektor, the Warmaster of the Heralds of Hektor.4) Isstvan III happens5) Isstvan V Happens6) A lot of crazy shit, including a burning crusade and a warp storm somewhere7) Terra8)?????That's all I got.
>>34472505and I forgot the pic in my excitment.
>>34472474Lol, don't go derp, please, but yes, do have fun, and remember to consult the 1d4chan page, since there is *some* information there, even if it's not much yet. >>34472187Whenever you feel like doing so, Arelex has a description on the 1d4chan page. I'd be honored if you'd render him, drawfriend.
>>34472532You forgot9) PROFIT!
>>3447256410) XENOS ERRYDAY!
>>34472559That's fucking metal...
>>34472505Clashes between the Gorgers and Sons of Fire are rare, but apocalyptic. Khorne's burning rage and eternal hunger meeting drowns worlds in blood and fire. However Khorne is loathe to waste these two assets on each other, and usually forces them to fight side by side against the corpse emperor and the other Gods Legions.
>>34472598I almost want the Slaaneshi Primarch to resemble Swissgard or Toki.
>>34472010With their primarch being the weakest among the children of the Emperor, read: weaker then the next weakest primarch but only slightly the Nova Defenders faced a handicap. Because of this handicap they adopted a ranged combat heavy doctrine. They work like a plasma phalanx, using unique units known as Blockade Marines, and armored Land Raiders. Blockade marines are equipped with large riot shields and plasma pistols, and are often used on the front lines. This doesn't mean they aren't effective just about everywhere. They are well known for their impenetrable defense, but also their ability to adapt quickly on the battle field. This trait stems from their Primarch's quick mind and runner physique. They have few assault marines, since they lack the raw muscle to go toe to toe with a Carnifex, but make up for this by wearing down the enemy from long range, and finishing it as it reaches the blockade. The average Nova Defender is equipped with either a Plasma or Electric weapon, in order to kill the enemy quick before it stomps through the front line.Primarch fluff is next.
>>34472604Implying Khorne wouldn't rejoice in the destruction and carnage such confrontation would bring.Even better, let's have them automatically abandon any fight they were as soon as they realize the other is around and then hurl at each other even though the enemy is right at their backs
>>34472638I think pop culture references are not a good thing, simply because they invite mockery and accusations of unoriginality. Not that you can't do it at all, but just try to take a delicate approach, yeah?
>>34472707I like the sound of that.And only the Not!Abaddon can have the two fight side by side without them screwing the plan and turning on one another.
>>34472705> runner physique> static defense with Blockade Marinesdrop one of the two.Give him a strategical mind, one that can make defense the winning strategy, have him be tech-friendly enough to enough the power of plasma.
>>34472032Yep...Fucking...yes!Ok, I'll have to request as well.Pale skin tone.Face is angular, though not unattractively so.Bony cheeks.Emerald green eyes and shoulder length silvery hair, more on the borders of white than grey, parted towards the right, usually covering his right eye.Usually had a small smile on him at most times, quite a warm expression.A pair of small curved scars, not to far off of his left eye and curving towards his lip, the outside one bigger.If you're partial for including insignias for chapters into it on the shoulder pads, here you are.
>>34472793I had him as a strategist with defense marines and people were complaining he was to under powered.
>>34472862They were saying he was underpowered because you kept wanting the marines to -> just <- be weak and somehow make up for it (Teamwork!).A brillant mind, a flamboyant personality, tech-acumen, now you have Primarch that can fight back instead of just being "The weaker Primarch"
>>34472900But he was always a smart primarch with defense marines. All I've changed so far is I cut the lighthouse stuff and gave them plasma.
>>344725320) Zealots Xeno allies, or at least a anti-imperium faction, betrayed him, knights show up at planet to kill xenos.Miscommunication happens.Third of Legion destroyedAubrey shows up at planet, bitches Bohemonds face off.Emperor is like a black woman in hindsight.PURGEXenos betrayal orchestrated by the Children of Armok
>>34472705For military strategy, one word:FLAMBOYANCE.Have them greet the enemy with a barrage of light and fire, a firework of liquid flame. When the Nova Defenders hold a point, only the willingness to be blinded by their rain of fire will be enough.Now the weakness is that if the enemy reaches you, you are dead.BUT the primarch strategic insight there plays a role into making sure the enemy never reach them.
Namefaggin' up. Writan now.I'm thinking for the Cataphracts to come from a harsh world with a dim star covered by extremely aggressive vegetation which make the redwoods look like saplings. Humans manage to survive here by removing the forests which are home to a hundred different horrors. Alexandri is not a chivalrous man, he is a cunning and daring man who is cautiously interested in warp sorcery. How does this concept sound? Also image related. I am making the Cataphracts, RUSSIAN ASFUCK
>>34472987We have a Inuit Tank Legion, a Zoroaster Fire-Priest Legion, a Muslim Legion, we need a Russian legion.Go for it.
>>34472987Not!Russians could be legit.
I'm back, I miss anything good?
>>34467475Friendly reminder to all:Many of the Legions need their homeworlds posted to the 1d4chan page. Many Primarchs need to write their histories, and several need to pick a slot on the Finding Order.Just a bookkeeping thing, citizens.
>>34472927Nope, nothing ever transpired any kind of super-intelligence/strategic mind.The only trait you ever mentioned was that weakness."The little marines"
>>34472813I want to see Writefaggotry of Nathanog and Inferox meeting at Ullanor, and Hektor forced to stop them throttling each other.
>>34473040Well, a lot happened, good or otherwise. I reiterate my opinion that using the actual word "Omegon" in your legion's name seems a bit odd, since it's already in use in canon 40k.Annihilators is fine, if a bit intense, but I'd recommend Omegon be changed.
>>34473059oowww what happened to my guys history and appearance stuff. I had it all on the wiki and now its gone T.T>>34473054And whoa, is a draw-fag making bad ass portraits of our primarchs?
>>34473069Holy shit, it was my main thing. I said it SO MANY TIMES.
>>34473090Yep. Apparently they're being done in posted order, so Inferox the Burned King is next. I can't wait to see his burned visiage and flame-scorched armour.
>>34473087That would be pretty badass.If it doesn't happen I will take care of it once I get some sleep.>>34473090You need to change that Legion's name, it's horrid.
>>34473088I didn't make up the name, I just took over and made up the fluff since I wanted to be a part of this. I wouldn't mind replacing it. Any ideas on a name? The legion is Persian and Sorcery themed.
>>34473123I agree, give it a better name then that.Also, new thread time. Have a bus to catch, see you all in a few hours.
>>34473125My idea tank is depleted for the night, I might be able to think up something for tomorrow.Meanwhile please don't let the Nova Defenders come up with some horrible thing. Or tomorrow is going to be massacre.
How about the something Diviners?
>>34472705Rook grew up almost entirely alone on a rural oceanic planet who's only inhabitants were scattered villages of fishermen. The locals never truly welcomed him as one of their own, and he spent most of his youth in a relic tower reading and learning from an imperium computer. This sharpened his mind and made him the tactical master he is. While not being the most physically intimidating primearch, he is still a primarch, and a damn smart one too. These traits balance each other out. Rook is also known for not being a FULL BLOWN SOCIOPATH like most of the children of the emperor ended up. He's someone who can have a conversation with a person and not go 100% AUTISM. That doesn't mean he's without quirks. He has a problem with holding his tongue and is known for his dickish sense of humor.>>34473184Thanks for the vote of confidence, I'll try not to ruin your fun too much.
>>34473125Parthosae Mystics? (Parthian Empire)Mystics of Achaemnos? (Achaemenid Empire)Dune Speakers?Imperial Jannisians? (Jannisaries)Mazdianites? (Ahura-Mazda)Any of those speak to you?
>>34473245> obvious satire of what essentially 40k LoreRoboute was not a sociopath either, but he still could kill shit.> gonna have plasma tech> scattered village of fishermenI'm waiting for your primarch's story with much anticipation...> still wants the guy to be a lonerYou just don't get it.I'm tired for the night but you can be damn sure I will come back tomorrow and straighten that shit up.
>>34473205Cyraenians (Cyrus the Great)Lords of Parseph (Persepolis)Partheids Defiant (Also Parthian Empire, defiant of Rome)Silken Masters (SIlk Road, major source of cash for Iranian area empires, implies a more "cultured" group of marines, maybe)
Am I too late to the party to share a legion?Because this looks fun as fuck
>>34473259Hmm the Mystic or Diviner sound good to me, however I'd rather not reference some historical faction since it doesn't really fit in with how all the other legions are named.Sand Prophets?Dune MysticsBronze Diviners?I'm kind of considering making my legion symbol an hourglass
>>34473370As long as it's QUALITY, sure why could you not join the fun?We need more Chaos legions if anything.
>>34473344>still wants the guy to be a lonerThis isn't true.
>>34470832Lol thats funny.But seriously I withdraw Argent LegionCut or do with them as you will /tg/
>>34473370Just stay away from the curse of LOLRANDERP, and sure, we'll look at what you've got.>>34473393Historical references are fine, since those are the themes you want to work with anyway. That's why most of the names I suggessted are pretty tortured versions of the IRL names, so that it's somewhat hidden, but not completely. Theming is fine, don't worry about it. That said, any of those names you have are fine too, at your discretion.
>>34473410Friendly advice: ignore Nathan and get more shit done.I think you should also bring back the lighthouse. The only thing wrong with it is that it overshadowed Rook North.
>>34473393Your guys are The Immortals. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
>>34473527Listen to that guy and you will just another one like me tell me the same thing later.
>>34473410> This isn't true.> The locals never truly welcomed him as one of their own, and he spent most of his youth in a relic tower reading and learning from an imperium computerWhat about thinking your stuffs through?
I've already written up enough to add in some new info on the Cataphracts, but I'll save that for next thread.
>>34473559I made my elite terminator company called The Immortal. I think I'm going to make my legion the Golden Simurgh, which was a persian mystical creature and considered the Royal Emblem of the Sassanid Empire. I originally made my homeworld named Simurgh, but I think I'll change that to Sassanid
>>34473616Criticism or Helpful advice.Pick one.The latter is more progressive!
>>34473654Nathan doesn't do either. His preferred mode is bullying.
>>34473643Actually, I think I'll have a vote on it.Golden SimurghDune MysticsSand ProphetsBronze Diviners
>>34473685Honestly, I really think that all of these are better names for Companies. "The Immortals" sounds badass, it's evocative and direct. That's why you chose it as the first name, and gave it to the elite company - but the whole Legion is something really special. My advice is to use your best material for the Legion name then work your way down.
>>34473678I am revoking his medication then.
>>34473678Did I hurt your feelings?Meanwhile none of you actually called the massive inconsistencies that riddled the Nova Defenders.And I know why, most of the people in this thread are too afraid to have their Legions be criticized to criticize other Legions.At least I'm not an hypocrite.Now the Nova Defenders can get somewhere, as long as people are let in in the creation process.
>>34473738Honestly, I'm for deleting the Gorgers so we have less reason to put up with the guy. It's not as though they add anything other than Fat Bastard jokes.
>>34473757Excuse me.1) I did criticise it, perhaps in a more joking matter, but I did chip in my two cents towards the lacking of the chapter.2) My legion has been criticised, I corrected it, but they were at least helpful in the criticism, people pointed out I had too much going for the chapter and pointed out things that should go.I am no hypocrite sir.You are leading the Nova Defenders no-where but down a spiral of frustration.
I come back after a few hours and everybody is losing their shit. Calm down, bros, be excellent to each other.
>>34473757>>34473777>>34473738>>34473678Jesus, calm the hell down, all of you. Go to bed, come back tomorrow with fresh ideas and a less... entrenched perspective, cause clearly none of what you're all doing is actually solving anything.
>>34473851It's just one fag wrecking things. Happens. How's it going with your Successor Chapter? I really liked the Saladin tribute idea.
>>34473844The difference is you listened. And I have to commend you for that. BUT you did for your own interest, to make your Legion better.This one doesn't want to listen at all. And that other guy is trolling for him, I have no idea why.
I'm done for the night.Make my words, though, you are going to see some atrocious things coming from that Nova Defenders guy and his friend.We shall see.
>>34473844Thing is, you made a joke of it, like you were doing something with a friend and trying to help them out. That's what Nathan's against - friendly interaction.
>>34473902I can understand the tactical stand point.However he needs to of risen to become a leader for that to make sense.Aubrey went from Medic to General, that is why he instructed so many marines to be trained medically and that is why he cares for the little people.I agree, the legion must reflect the Primarchs upbringing.So far it seems he is a loner and learning.Sure, that marks intelligence, but it does not mark leadership.Not unless he rises to it later in life.For now it sounds more like he'd turn into a Tzeentchian Sorcerer, locked up in a tower full of dark secrets and tombs of ancient knowledge.
>>34474008I can't speak for Rook, but my gloss on the Primarch is that he's not a great leader of men. He was actually pretty bad at it when he first took command of the Nova Defenders, and had to rely on his men far more than the other Primarchs. But there's a compensation for that: he ends up closer to them.This has been condemned by haters as the power of kindness, but it's actually marking the Nova Defenders as the epitome of Brotherhood, a very Space Marine virtue.
Okay I decided, my legion will henchforth be the Sand Keepers and our legion symbol will be an hour glass which will represent how the legion makes extensive use of prophecy and divination AKA Time.
>>34473685In my opinion, those sound better for chapters, but if I had to choose one for a legion, Sand Prophets is pretty nice.
>>34474265Sounds nice and Tzeentchian to me.
>>34474323I was leaning towards that as well, but to me Sand Prophets kinda infers that everyone in the legion is some sort of psyker with prophetic powers.
>>34473411So uh, what are we gonna do with the Argents?>>34474131I agree with this.
Well its official, changed all my legion stuff on the wiki to Sand Keepers.
>>34474656Glad you've chosen a new name, but I'll be honest, you're kinda setting yourself up for "sandy vagina" jokes. Just giving fair warning.
>>34474680haha so be it!
>>34474397Edited wiki for "band of brothers" take on the Nova Defenders
Wiki edited for homeworld name, still can't think of a decent background now.Also, can someone edit the table and put the Stone Men back in?
>>34475179Well, your name screams "CRUSADE!!!" to me, so Bohemond probably grew up on a feudal world. Maybe set him as the pious knight in service of the Church, who unites the temporal realm so that it can benefit from a Not!Christian ruler?
Aaaand, most of my lunch break was spent reading people bitching and attacking each other, after specifically telling everyone not to do that.Sand Keepers seem awesome.Like the Nova Defenders in concept, need to be flushed out a bit (like I'm one to talk)Sons are fine. The Gorgers seem like it could be a good idea, but Nathanog, you're not being constructive, you're just insulting ideas without helping to make things better.
>>34475289You've got that boss colour scheme, though, that does a lot.Do you think Merrill grew up on a relatively civilized world? He seems to be a small unit tactics guy, and that's an uncommon way of thinking for pre-modern people. (The alternative is that he was fostered by a tribe whose hunters and warriors were interchangeable.)
>>34475360Absolutely. Adopted by a small tribe on the planet, had to use unconventional methods to survive, and, eventually, thrive.
I do have to say, though, bravo to our resident drawfag. That shit is legit, dude.
>>34475390And I guess forest people? Otherwise there'd be horses around. Not!Iroquois?
>>34475423Exactly. Good call on the Tribe I based it on, guy. Grew up around the Mohawk.
>>34475423Anyways, I had the idea mostly filled out, but it was pretty craptastic. Have to go back to work now, I'll probably toss something up in the morning.
>>34475441That's a great source. Just sketch it out when you have time. My hunch is that you've got a 'unite the tribes' bit and also (re?)conquering other lands, which suggests that Merrill goes renegade in a kind of "When did I start working for The Man?" moment.And you don't need anything more than that as an idea. If you've got better - awesome! But a lot of our troubles right now are that good ideas are going around in anons' heads but not being expressed out to the project at large. (Rook is the poster-boy for this - whenever I get on his wavelength it's amazing, but then there's moments of - "Huh? I'm sure this is gonna be good, but I don't get it yet.")
Where did our resident draw fag go? Been awhile since I heard from him.
>>34475728This thread is well over 404 and drowning fast. Maybe he'll return next thread.
This is what happens when you leave it to me to make the new thread >>34475912
>>34467927Gaudin is basically a 9ft Big Boss in power armour.