Your drones file out of the corvette as it comes to rest in the outstretched arms of its dock. On one side is your scout corvette, its skin peeled back by the docking pylon’s spindly construction arms to better reach its shattered bones and torn tendons within. On the other is the half-finished skeleton of a new corvette, its hull sleek and pulsing from the grafting of sinew bulkheads and muscular hull plating. A shuttle is quick to pick up your new guests and send them to the growing prison built around the remains of the Angel. The few rooms you have are quickly filled and your workers begin efforts to expand the complex without delay.Your throne room is filled to the brim with eggs, clustered on top of each other in neat little heaps to give your drones room to move in the maze of unborn drones. Despite your busy day you keep a close eye on the new arrivals, twenty five in total, most with varying minor injuries.Meanwhile your drones listen in on the transmissions of the Union search party on Raligha, your pods silently watch the traffic of traders and settlers drift about the orbit of Calpamos, and you sit in silence as the crew of Gibson station beams re-runs of some human sport to the small colony of Kaltara.Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone
>>34372921>Current armory121 Thorn Launchers2 Thorn Cannons53 Sting Casters1 Rotary Stinger3 Fire Sprays1 Plasma Spray>Current resource reservesNutrients: 2969Metals: 14730>Hive population and upkeep cost Hive maintenance – 75Queen – 5Worker (1200) – 2400Radiator Worker (40) – 160Warrior (109) – 436Thinker (49) – 147Quantum Thinker (20) – 100Speaker – (1) – 4Digger (80) – 320Refinery (10) – 70Sniffer (2) – 8Small Sniffer (40) – 40Fly (10) – 40 Wasp (59) – 295Antenna (3) – 9Haz-mat Workers (20) – 80Shock Troops (25) – 325Excavator (9) – 171Colossus (2) – 30Advanced Relay (6) – 600Space Pod (3) – 90Shuttle (2) – 50Scout Corvette – 325Lancer Corvette – 200Nutrient costs: 5455>IncomeMetals: 3750Nutrients: 8505Net: 3050Hive Structure>Reservoir>General storage>Food storage>Advanced Laboratory>Infrastructure>Hangar facilities: Room for 40 Aero Drones and 20 Shuttles (25N)>Mine: +1500 M per day (+25 M per digger)>Asteroid mining base: +2250M per day (+50 M per digger)>Algae Farm: +8000 N per day, 80 Workers (1 worker per 100N)>Clarke Research Outpost>Hel’s Angel Prison Outpost>Docking Pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 ships (50N)>Anti-orbital battery: 2 (125N per battery)Finished construction40 Algae Farms (+4000N, 40 workers)New Construction Options>Algae Farm – +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain>Hangar Expansion – Add on to current hangar facilities for your choice of +40 aero drone space, or +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Anti-orbital battery – A bunker armed with a massive Particle beam capable of attacking ships in orbit from the ground. It includes the power and sensor systems required to operate it. 250N 1500MShip Construction Optionshttp://pastebin.com/YTwGk8n1
>>34372954Didnt we start building a anti orbital battery yet and more farms last threads?
>>34372954Finished Research>Extended nature studyFastUsing your new drones you should be able to quickly cover the remaining areas of jungle and study the rest of the local life, especially the various forms of worm that seem to fill the soft soil of the area.Current Research>Union culture researchMediumDesignate several thinkers to read through and disseminate the information within the samples of human literature found within the Clarke. With the wide range of topics covered this should reveal some bits of interesting information on all manner of subjects.>Carbon liquidMediumThis strange substance appears to be alive, and reshapes itself by assembling itself into various crystalline structures as needed. You're still not sure if it was trying to attack your ship or if it was simply reacting automatically in some fashion. An extensive battery of tests should reveal more regarding the substance.http://pastebin.com/F6t39KSp>>34372994You did, and they are now under construction, as well as a new scout corvette.
>>34373059K just list it before we have decision wars starting then
>>34373059>Extended nature studyWhat did we get from this?
>>34373059what did we learn about the nature study?
>>34373059Contact unity about space amazon.
>>34373161Not the time.
>>34372954so can we lay some quantum thinkers?So that we can research more things at once.
>>34373059We need to slide in that crab dissection work so we can get aquatic options.
>>34373240Already did that, got us gills and maybe the tail?
>>34373204How many should we lay?
>>34373240Fluff stop being a moron.
>>34372921Is the doctor with all the other prisoners or is she isolated?
>>34373204I'm up for doing that how does 180 new Quantum Thinkers sound?
>>34373374sounds good to me.
>>34373374Sounds good.That should allow more research, and help the overall hive.
>>34373355>>34373059yep isolate the doctorfind out what that psi device did to her
>>34373332>>34373305Did it? Am I? It doesn't look like that in the pastebin. It said other wise.
>>34373374fuck of on the thinkers dumbasswe can only research 2 things at a time get over it
>>34373059You watch through the dim lighting of the hive as the humans sit or pace about in the large holding area your drones had carved out for them. Most are in good health, although several suffered various injuries during your attack. They appear to have made a makeshift medical area near the back wall, collecting what supplies their suits provide to tend to those most injured. The human you had briefly spoken to still lies unconscious, along with the captain she had been arguing with.>Isolate Dr Vaughn>Leave her for nowIn the jungle of Raligha you listen as the search team continues to find little."Move to the next grid line.""I can't see anything under the treeline. You'll need to search the area on foot."You can still hear the occasional drumming of the natives in the distance.
>>34373400It probably connected her to the ship.
>>34373400Kind of want a surgeon variant of worker for treating human injuries. Basically just give it the fancy blades. Of course, we've got heading vats lying around so that's probably silly.
>>34373428>Isolate Dr Vaughn
>>34373427Ou research list is getting bigger, and having more thinkers helps the hive overall, hell at the very end of the last thread we had gotten to an understanding to lay more.
>>34373374I'd be up for more Thinkers but not that many.
>>34373428Scan Vaugn with the medical equipment in the Hel's Angel.And get the twins to explain that tech to us so we can have an organic version.
>>34373428>Isolate Dr Vaughn>>34373512Pretty cheap considering our income.
>>34373510Yea and you know whatI bet QD hasnt really thought of what half those things mean for us in upgrades or story purposesso right now we can shift resources on to more pressing things like ships and unitsThe 2 limit gives the man time to planno amount of thinkers is gonna change that
>>34373355Seconding isolating and interogating the good doctor.
>>34373374Too many.Also, we need more troops, and more guns for those troops. I suggest we lay 100 warriors. This will cost us 800 nutrients, and bump our upkeep up by 400.
>>34373570It's really not.A more balanced mix of normal Thinkers and Quantum Thinkers in more modest amounts would be more sensible.Because Quantum Thinkers are creative, which helps with innovations like bioweapons an cryogenic weapons, but doesn't help with dissection and reverse engineering other people's tech. And we do more of the latter really. So half and half is good.Maybe 50 normal and 50 quantum.
>>34373570Add in more workers and farms to compensate for their upkeep and you have my vote>>34373428>Isolate Dr VaughnQD, Since we already have eyes in the Raligha system in the form of the pod, would it be possible to have a stealth corvette jump in to a location in the system where the Union wouldn't be able to detect the radiation burst, like behind a planet? Or does it not work like that?
>>34373545I want to use the healing vats to rouse the captain. Show of good faith.
>>34373428>Isolate Dr VaughnAnd we do need to lay some more speakers to talk to all these people.
>>34373640I'm game, since quantum thinkers are for our own research tree, and we are lacking in thinker, either way.>>34373576I'm suggesting the thinkers, to help out in the hive as well.
>>34373597However Thinkers can be used to boost rolls which is one of the reasons I want some.
>>34373597Sounds like a good plan, Raligha really showed how understrength the hive is compared to other forces in the galaxy. Perhaps we should consider laying more collusi as well?
>>34373692I think early on it was said they could boost production as well? Probably only at a large scale, but even a 5% boost is significant.
>>34373692Just make more shock troopers, and either make 1 shock trooper for every 5/10/20(depends on what you guys want)
>>34373695Our issue was that nades fucked us up, and we didn't know how to fight a siege.We need anti-grenade methods (getting warriors to jump on a nade, anyone?), and more flame throwers and grenade launchers in our warrior's hands.>>34373742I think QD said 1 shock trooper can boost the rolls of 20 warriors.
Guys I think we should use the Slip Drive when we head to Raligha again.
>>34373690With what we aren't even taxing the ones we do have with controlling the dronesThe only reason some idiot keeps bringing up the thinkers is that he has a hard on for tech for some belief that it already planned out>>34373374Again we can spend resources on other things like maybe finally getting a colony set up somewhere or some shipsWe had this stupid argument last time
>>34373742bring back the banlings they were supposed to act as bullet catchers after all
>>34373862Baneling are best used for rushes.
>>34373899yea there the first wave while the real warriors flank and use them as a distraction we got the units but everyone figured just use the warriors with the grenade upgrade The banlings were our first wave cannon fodder there made to die after all
>>34373428>Isolate the doctorThe door flexes open and several warriors march into the room surrounding a pair of workers. The humans give your drones a wide berth as they move to the back of the room. One of the humans stands nervously at attention. A look of confusion crosses his face as your drones march by."Hey, what are you doing?" He asks as turns to watch your drones. "I'm the senior officer of this expedition and I-" Your warrior quickly turns to face him with its blades held up. The man jumps back slightly before continuing more slowly as your workers move towards the doctor."I am Major Michael Randolph. I'm the ranking officer of this expedition and I would like to request an audience with whoever is in charge here."As your workers start to pick up the doctor several of the other humans move in."Wait! she's still in critical condition, you can't move her!"Your warrior unsheathes its blades as it chitters its massive mandibles. You can hear a growing commotion in the room as your drones move back to the door.>>34373576Actually, no matter how much of the tech I plan out, you guys seem to come up with really cool applications I never thought of. Half the fun is watching what cool stuff you guys make with the resources available.>>34373646Yes, you would be able to target the space on the far side of the horizon from the Union fleet, although you would still have a slim chance of one of the patrolling fighters detecting you.
>>34373944"Might become queen, must study."
>>34373944yes."Critical condition".Aka possessed and gestating.To the medical scanning equipment she goes.
>>34373944You take the doctor to the main medical bay of the Angel. It seems the best suited for handling a human's proportions and is well equipped with supplies.>Have the twins assist in using the medical tank to run tests>Take a blood sample and test it yourself>Leaver her alone and observe for symptoms>Other
>>34373944Dump her in the regen vats,under guard (like that'll do shit) and with a speaker nearby and convince Huey and Duey to help with it.And can we have the Shocktroopers in the Temple start exploring in our stead? We still have control over them.
>>34373944Well this is roleplaying not a videogame so we go as far as you let as gamemaster
>>34373944Might as well send a Speaker to inform them of our intention to treat her. We've got more resources than they have. We have no intention to harm her.
>>34374040>Have the twins assist in using the medical tank to run tests>Take a blood sample and test it yourself
>>34374040>Have the twins assist in using the medical tank to run tests
>>34374040>>Leaver her alone and observe for symptoms>>Take a blood sample and test it yourself>>Have the twins assist in using the medical tank to run testsIn that order.
>>34374040>>Have the twins assist in using the medical tank to run tests>>Take a blood sample and test it yourself
>>34373944>you guys seem to come up with really cool applications I never thought of.Like cryo weapons.
>>34374053fuck themthis guy was a dumb-ass nearly as bad as lylelet them stew for a while
>>34374040>Have the twins assist in using the medical tank to run tests>Send a Speaker to placate the humans re: we're treating her. Don't bother responding to their questions.
>>34373944Speaking of cool applications of tech, would it be possible to make stealth missiles? As in missiles covered in cloaking field? Because that would be awesome.
>>34374146Seems wastefully expensive.
>>34374102They're potentially valuable political prisoners. There's no point in riling them up for no reason.>>34374158Might be worth it on nukes. Capital missiles, basically.
>>34374104>>34374180No. One, they can stand a little uncertainty, they can be assuaged later. It's not urgent.Two, on a meta-level, Speaker-ing slows down the pace of the quest. It's fun sometimes, but we have to conserve our updates.Three, they aren't ever going to see the Union again.
>>34374146making what ya call them fireships? a pod with cloaking and a nuke you mean? gonna need a nuke then
>>34374180no point telling them things either
>>34374180>>34374212>Might be worth it on nukes. Capital missiles, basically.Yeah, that was what i thought. If they are unable to counter them we can be pretty certain it hits, so all we need is just one motherfucking huge missile.
>>34374180Maybe on the nukes I guess. As for the prisoners, fuck em. We only got them for test subjects anyway.>>34374212Dont we have 11?
>>34374250cant build them though so yeah goona need to research them
>>34374202One, granted, though starting early is usually a good idea.Two, no reason we have to answer questions. Just send a speaker to speak a sentence or two and leave.Three, that depends on both how we treat them and how diplomacy with the Union unfolds over the next while. I don't like limiting our options.
Swarm (50 fighters) – A hangar filled to the brim with dormant drones, which are awoken and released when needed for combat. They are linked directly to the parent ship, and cannot function away from it. The fighter drones themselves are each a cheap and disposable craft designed to pose a threat with sheer numbers, and can each be equipped with a single weapon. Together, they can form complex maneuvers to intercept attacks with themselves, attack hostile targets, ram into targets and perform patrols in close proximity to the ship. When not in use they are kept in hibernation, reducing their cost to a bare minimum. Cost represents the cost of a single hangar bay and its associated swarm. (600N 300M)
>>34374285Test subjects bro.
>>34374285Agreed, If we can use them as pawns to buy us time with the Union or get them off our backs for awhile, I'm all for it.
>>34374040Your drones quickly take a small sample and you call in Huey and Dewey. Their understanding of the devices is more from rote memory than any understanding of human biology, but they quickly set the tank to perform a full battery of tests before a warrior escorts them back to their maintenance duties.Please roll 1d100, best of 3You watch from the small sensors of the cell walls as the disgruntled Union officer beats the chitinous door in frustration. He quickly gives up and returns to pacing near the center of the room between several others."How long until you think we can expect a rescue party?"The Major chews his thumb for a moment before responding. "Until someone comes looking for us? A fleet should be on the case already. If you mean when someone will find us, that's harder to say.">Send a speaker to grant Major Randolph his request for an audience>Send a speaker to dismiss their concerns and attempt to calm them>Leave them alone>>34374045I've always been a follower of the "yes, but" philosophy myself, it always makes thing more interesting and more entertaining.>>34374088Yes, exactly, those are a neat idea.>>34374102I think you are referring to the captain that breached the temple with the grav-bike? He is also in critical condition with severe lacerations across the torso. The Major was one of the captured soldiers at the base camp.
Rolled 34 (1d100)>>34374439
Rolled 22 (1d100)>>34374439
Rolled 68 (1d100)>>34374439>Leave them alone
>>34374439>>Send a speaker to grant Major Randolph his request for an audience
Rolled 73 (1d100)>>34374439>>Leave them alone
>>34374439>Send a speaker to dismiss their concerns and attempt to calm them
>>34374439>Send a speaker to grant Major Randolph his request for an audience
>>34374439>Leave them alone
>>34374439worst case scenario expose her to the crystalsoh and test lyle for exposure and the control group cause he had headaches after jumping right
>>34372921>Using what's available in the drone builder could you show us what the queen has?>The queen is a special case and has some adaptations for free. Obviously the egg sac is free of upkeep, but the queen also has a medium relay, medium wings, combat blades, dexteritus graspers, endurance legs, advanced acoustic and basic radio.Lets upgrade ourselves.
>>34374439>Send a speaker to grant Major Randolph his request for an audienceWhy not?
>>34374439>Leave them aloneYour preliminary findings don't seem to show anything unusual, although you are still not very well versed in human biology. The current extent of your knowledge has been the charred and half-eaten corpses and a single, highly modified individual who is still held deep within your hive.A blip in your mind calls your attention to Theseus. "I have received additional information requests for the monitor satellite directing it to enter a geostationary orbit." You watch as the satellite slowly drifts into a new position above your hive. "The satellite has also received a new security code, valid through the next three days."
>>34374439>>Send a speaker to dismiss their concerns and attempt to calm them
>>34374902>"I have received additional information requests for the monitor satellite directing it to enter a geostationary orbit.The humans are getting pretty suspicious.
>>34374902huh we got their attention thenbest prepare a welcoming party
>>34374902We should have cloaked the docking pylons.
>>34374902>"The satellite has also received a new security code, valid through the next three days."Oh dear.We're gonna get an audit.This is the worst time to be building anti-orbital weaponry. Even if it shoots them down, they'll have working FTLComm and that alone will raise suspicions.3 days is enough time to tear down the docking pylon and hide fucking everything though.The docking pylon should only be built in a 1km ravine somewhere on the other side of the planet.
>>34374902Damn, may want to start construction of more ships and defenses. A question, would it be more effective at this point for a wolf-pack of stealth frigates or a pair of highly visible cruisers? and is it possible to put ships into a state of hibernation like normal drones to save on upkeep?
>>34374966Firstly no one has seen them yet, secondly wasn't it said that would just end up being a giant weird blurry thing instead of being cloaked?
>>34374977a wolf pack along with the fireships that were described earlier right now we need numbers and we aint got the time to build up
>>34375007But wouldn't that be good enough for them not to be spotted from spaceships?
>>34375015How long does it take us to build ships anyway?
>>34374966You can't cloak structures that attach to the ground like that. It has to be a seamless discrete object, otherwise you get that blur where it touches the ground.Also it's goddamn 10 times the size of the Corvette or something, too expensive.The answer is to build a different docking pylon on the far end of the planet. There is no reason to have the pylon for building ships next to the *known* location of the hive.Go build one somewhere very far away, deep between two mountains or something.
>>34374967Wait wait wait. I have two ideas:We hide our shit in the docking pylon, and we fill it to the brim with flying drones. The drones fly around and shit, and just plain act like they're doing important shit.They see it and think "Oh, they just have a flier nest." Bam. No suspicions.And the other thing is we need to build some grenade launchers for our troops.
Hi, recently discovered Hive Quest, and I've been lurking waiting for this iteration. Anyways.I say we grant his request for an Audience, and see what information we can wring out of him, and maybe if we reassure him it will calm the humans in the area.Also, what about Lyle? He's been reduced to a head and a torso and stuck to a wall, and he hasn't changed from that position for 7 or so threads. Perhaps we should do something with him? A highly skilled human merc with a reputation for professionalism and discreet operations will be useful should we ever feel the need.
We do hit and run on the first wavewe beat them back and can replace our losses a hell lot fasterjust need to buy time and entrench our system so yeah some orbital weapons on our moon base to
>>34375028Corvettes have been in a day. The bigger issue is that we need to build more pylons to properly house the ships.
>>34375024It can't be 'spotted' from space ships through the planet's thick cloud cover already.The problem is if they're actually *coming* here, they will definitely coming surface-side. If they only needed to see what they could see from orbit, they wouldn't need to come --- they could use the monitor satellite.
>>34375046Alternatively, we setup the pylon so that it shoots flame everywhere. And then we have small things everywhere that also shoot out fire.When/if they land and check it out, we praise them as fire gods, and ask if they like our tribute to their power.
>>34375046>No suspicions>was a tribe living in a cave a couple weeks ago>built a giant organic skyscraper since then>No suspicions
>>34375046You mean add Seeker pods to some drones? I'd support it.
>>34375118That and we should build a pylon on our mining asteroid so we can build battleship sized craft. Nothing says "Fuck off" like a battle ship can!
>>34375163I'm fairly certain that's an entirely different structure not called 'pylon' though it serves the same essential purpose. Not sure the asteroid is hollowed out enough for it anyway.
time to equip that ship we stole with weaponswhat was its name the clarke?
>>34375217we salvaged it actually.
>>34374902As you contemplate the news your pod in the Koenig system detects the arrival of a single union ship. The voice of a woman barks through the radio to the Calpamos station."Calpamos, this is the Dauntless requesting resupply, on mission to G-426 for satellite maintenance.""Roger that, we have your acquisition requests and your supplies are ready for loading in berth five. We are sending tugs to pull you in."The ship drifts slowly towards the station and is met with a number of small, plump shuttles that dock to the bulky vessel and slowly guide it into dock.>>34375217Yes, that Clarke. It may still be recognized as the Clarke, but it would apear damaged and worn due to the ways you repaired it. It looks much worse then it is.
>>34375293good surpise the fuck out of the union>>34375260>>34375263so clarke is the bait and we board this next ship the dauntless with as many warriors as possible?or call in the unity for another distraction?
>>34375293You quickly ponder how to prepare for the arrival of the Union ship.>Speak with the Major and try to get information from him while trying to appease his request for an audience and decorum>Interrogate the Major and the other officers>Discuss this with Theseus>Other (write in)
>>34375342I like the way you think anon. A boarding party on spaceship will leave one hell of an impression.
>>34375293>>34375382>Discuss with Theseus"Theseus. Is it possible to leave obvious signs of Unity tampering on the satellite? We're going to have visitors soon."
>>34375382>>Discuss this with Theseus"Humans are coming, at the least they will be examining the satellite. What are the risks? What if they look for the Clarke's crater?"
>>34375382>Speak with the Major and try to get information from him while trying to appease his request for an audience and decorum>Discuss this with Theseus
>>34375382>Other (write in)Equip the clarke with weapons and warriors and try to board the dauntless either from the clarrke or by corvette while there distracted
>>34375382>Discuss this with Theseus
>>34375382>>Speak with the Major and try to get information from him while trying to appease his request for an audience and decorum>>Discuss this with Theseus
>>34375382oh by the way recall all our corvettes then and make sure they all have cloak and a detachment of warriorsWait do we have enough?breed more warriors and weapons
>>34375382>Speak with the Major and try to get information from him while trying to appease his request for an audience and decorumand>Discuss this with Theseus
>>34375293>Speak with the Major and try to get information from him while trying to appease his request for an audience and decorum>Discuss this with Theseus
>>34375048We've debated about back and forth, so far, the concensus was that he wasn't worth the trouble of releasing him back to society and only then if we were to finish the research on human mind control technologies.
>>34375435Perfect. Seconding this.
wait we got theseus on that sat right?we wait for them to connect to the sat and hope theseus can get into there systems and then attack while some of the systems are disabled? those that sound alright to you guys or hit them the moment they come in system?
>>34375382>Discuss this with TheseusI wonder if we could put some of those nukes back on the satellite and have Theseus detonate them when the ship goes to maintain it.
>>34375656>we wait for them to connect to the sat and hope theseus can get into there systemsGood idea, though they may freak out when they notice the fuck-huge docking pylon on the ground before they dock with the satellite.
>>34375703To add: it could be hidden as a malfunction and the detonation of nuclear weaponry in orbit would give us reason to have been /aware/ of the satellites armament and therefore capable of using it as political leverage should negotiations open with the Union. They'd look like idiots for accidentally exploding themselves too.
>>34375703Wait.Waaait.The nukes!We took away the nukes they had onboard.They will notice they're missing unless we make some fake ones and stick em in their place!There's also the possibility their "maintenance" was code for coming with a code from parliament to authorize the launcing of them, but that seems extremely unlikely. They have no evidence to motivate such extreme measures yet.
>>34375293You quickly respond to Theseus."What traces have you left in the satellite?""I would be able to leave it in the exact state I found it in, leaving hardly a trace.""What about the areas you have obscured from the transmissions?""They would still be obscured by the atmosphere, which may be blamed for some of the discrepancies, but certainly not all of them."As you discuss the situation you take a look at the status of the Clarke. It has no weapons or shields, but it is fast and maneuverable. It has room for six point defense mounts and a spinal mount, as well as a number of missile launchers, although all of its ammunition has been expended.>Equipt weapons to the Clarke (what armament)>Leave it unarmed, but fill it with warriors (write in)>Other
>>34375765The "acquisition requests" being mentioned separately from supplies has me thinking they're bringing nukes too.
>>34375785Lets Trojan Horse this motherfucker.>Leave it unarmed, but fill it with warriors (As many as we can fit, and all armed with rapid-fire close-range weaponry.)Then we ask Theseus: "Where should we leave the ship so as to entice them to board it, while keeping their suspicions to a minimum?"
>>34375785>Have the two Stealth Corvettes wait in position near the satellite>When the ship gets close, blast it>Hope to the dice gods that the humans don't notice anything strange before they get to the satellite.
>>34375785Does our regular ships have shields as a standard? Also, would we be able to manufacture human ship weaponry or would we have to jerry rig our own tech onto it?
>>34375785>Equipt weapons to the Clarke (what armament) make them hiddenPlasma Lance for the spinal mount and the point defense will be autogunsand yeah some warriors in the ship too cause we need to ram these idiots and board them
>>34375849We could alter it until it looks nothing like the Clarke.
>>34375785>>Leave it unarmed, but fill it with warriors (write in)Have stealth corvettes standing by, also how noticeable is our handiwork? Will it be obvious from a distance its been worked on by non-humans?
>Leave it unarmed, but fill it with warriors (write in)75 warriors. 15 equipped with fire sprays, rest with thorn launchers.>>34375862We don't have shields, but our ships are less delicate and don't implode. Also, the latter.
>>34375862No, but your ships are able to be easily repaired, and are much cheaper to replace. Union ships rely more on shields to mitigate damage due to their relatively light armor and high costs to replace and repair.You do not currently have shield technology, although you could gain it if you were to acquire a Union ship intact, or purchase it from the Unity.
>>34375785Who do we have to kill to get some damn shields?
>>34375785>>Equipt weapons to the Clarke (what armament)I suppose some Linear Particle Beams for point defense.Going by its stats, LPB seems to be a superior option to the Autocannon in every way for point defense.
>>34375996These guys coming at us, apparently.
>>34375996union who elseoh can we build another 500 warriors with weapons then cause we gonna need it>>34375785
>>34375996A whole bunch of Union spacefarers evidently. Time to rally the warriors!
>>34375938It looks, for lack of a better term, like shit. That has nothing to do with the quality of the repair work, just that your metallurgy techniques and construction methods don't have the same focus on a fine coat of paint and coat of wax. A human would likely look at it and wonder how it's still functioning, but not think it was altered by aliens.
>>34375891>>34375856>>34375849I propose an idea combining these. We trojan horse it, fill the Clarke with warriors but also arm it, and have the corvettes standing by. We lure the enemy ship in somehow, then either board it or cripple it instantaneously with all three ships. Then we plunder.
I don't wanna fight if we can get away without it but... it's probably going to end up as a fight. Not great chances of being able to take em out before they get off an FTLcomm message either. Ah well.
>>34375987>purchase it from the Unity.>Shut up and take my data.jpgNow is the time hand over what we got to get that critical tech we need!
>>34376102Nope.We've got stealth ships and should be good at boarding actions.
>>34376102Cool your tits, fluff. A bunch of dead Union soldiers and a handful of moderately successful rolls and we'll have that tech by the end of the thread.
>>34376094it was comingone way or another no civ quest those not have a major war at some pointbut this is a just a skirmish and we have the advantage
>>34376196>Laughing Dice gods>a handful of moderately successful rolls Right.
>>34376124>should be good at boarding actionsWe're gonna be-the very best-like no mantis ever was!To capture Union ships is our real test-to tear them down is our cause!MANTIS CREW!
We'll need poison gas for this too.
>>34375785>speak with Theseus (write in)>Ask to trade for shield technology>Load the Clarke with warriors (75 warriors, or write in)>Equipt the Clarke with Plasma Lance and autocannons (or write in)>Other
>>34376261>Load with warriors. Give them close ranged weaponry.It's time.We should also get Theseus to hack them a little.
>>34376261Could we somehow use poison gas as a part of the boarding action?
>>34376261Are we giving up entirely on deceiving them and letting them go on their way then?We should produce canisters of the same weight and appearance of the nukes and stick them in the satellite at the very least, that doesn't cost us much.
>>34376210>Load the Clarke with warriors (75 warriors, or write in)No point arming the Clarke, we should just have our corvettes stealthed nearby if it comes to a fight.The Clarke should be set drifting in an irregular orbit or something. All spooky like. Get the union curious.
>>34376261>Load the Clarke with warriors (75 warriors, >Equipt the Clarke with Plasma Lance and autocannons >speak with Theseus (write in) will the union vessal fall for this trap?
>>34376327This.Maybe even have its transponder active, and sending out an SOS.
>>34376261>>Load the Clarke with warriors (75 warriors, or write in)Equip them with special ammunition too. Also have it escorted by a pair of stealth corvettes, just in case.
>>34376310Yes, although your own drones will be vulnerable to it as well.>>34376320You could still attempt to maintain the ruse if you wish, although it would be very unlikely that you would be able to capture the Dauntless and its shield tech without revealing yourself openly.
>>34376327Thirding. We have to make this trap as believable as possible.
>>34376261>Load the Clarke with warriors (75 warriors, or write in)>speak with Theseus (write in)Ask what would be worth Shield Tech and would the Union likely fall for this trap? Also, have a pair of stealthed ships lay in wait as well.
>>34376261I don't know what the point is of the Clarke ghost ship MASTER RUSE QUEEN plan.We can afford basic cloaked Corvettes--without psionic relays, they can rely on the scout ship nearby to control them.All with the plasma lance on their Auxiliary mount.We can make 12 of them, at 4 a day.They can all launch their plasma lance at once and cook the enemy ship before they have a chance to do anything at all.That's the only feasible way to silence them I can see.Attacking them with warriors will just ensure an SOS gets off over FTLComm.
>>34376261We need to fill the Clarke with our sedative pheromone. Let them wander the ship for a time and see if we can take them as quietly as possible.
>>34376439I would rather maintain the ruse.If they find evidence of Unity here, ok.But the hive should remain hidden entirely.Tear down the docking pylon, go full Madagascar, shut. down. everything.
>>34376442What is gonna be believable about this at all?Why is capturing this ship worth giving up all attempts at stealth, we can capture one of the Union ships that are at some of those uncharted systems like M-199 later.Capturing one at our home system instead of deceiving them is way too risky though.
>>34376471If we want to stealth insta-kill them we can just use our corvettes. The issue is that if we start shooting them, they might explode instead of us getting our hands on their tech. Because unions ships are silly and explode when damaged.The other issue is that if we kill it, a bigger fleet will get sent to investigate later anyway. it'd just be attacking them for no gain and the same consequences, effectively.
>>34376439I'd rather keep the ruse for as long as possible .
>>34376622>The other issue is that if we kill it, a bigger fleet will get sent to investigate later anywayBut you're going to get a bigger fleet with the ghost ship full of warriors plan!
>>34376514>>34376592>>34376656Hey again we were gonna get outed at some pointwe make them understand we can fuck with them if they come into there territory and a lot players have been sick and tired of this ruse bullshit jammed down our throats so again shut it and prepare for war
>>34376592Peeps are preparing because it doesn't look like our ruse is actually going to be sustainable.
>>34376439Maintain the ruse, install cloaking field on the Clarke and conceal its presence entirely.Construct fake nukes with the same weight and appearance and stick them into the satellite.Tear down the docking pylon and construct a new one on a different continent.We turtle up, and try the Clarke plan only if they won't leave. If they are trouble, THEN we uncloak it and try the ghost ship plan.
>>34376724Yes, but preparations that spoil the ruse just by doing them are counterproductive.Shit's like in the cartoons, "How did you know?" "YOU JUST TOLD ME!"You can both prepare for war *and* maintain the deception until it's clear the other party is gonna be trouble, at which point we can do the plan.Just cloak everything.
>>34376729>install cloaking field on the ClarkeFuck that idea.
>>34376729yeah no fuck off
>>34376729>>34376781Yeah, just park it on the opposite side of the planet instead if hiding it.
>>34376700How about I back the plan I want to and you go fuck yourself?
>>34376776Just cloaking everything doesn't seem sufficient to me though. It's the damn satellite. I'm tired of it.
>>34376592It only has to be believable until they dock with the Clarke and open our tin full of murder bugs. And at this point I think our cover as stone smashers is as good as blown. All they have to do is compare the images they have from the satellite with what they're actually seeing, and it won't matter anymore if the docking pylon has been hidden our not. They will know at that point that the satellite has been tampered with even if we replace the nukes we pulled from it. If they are allowed to leave the system, our cover is as good as blown. Best take em down now and look for some way for to distract the Union from the disappearance of one of their ships or blame it on the Unity somehow.
>>34376874OHHHI'VE GOT A BRILLIANT PLANWe take our cloaking techand put it on the satellite!
>>34376874The satellite is fine. I don't know what problem you could have with it, as long as Theseus OS is installed.It's not that hard to manage. You give up too easily.
>>34376951Okay, that would be hilarious. What would they even think?
After this, we need to build more ships, too.Like, larger than corvettes.We need to be able to defend ourselves.
>>34377006They'd follow it's signal and find a cloaked satellite. I've no idea what they'd think about that.
>>34377008We can already build frigates and cruisers, we just haven't bothered yet. Probably over concerns of cloak effectiveness, but frigates should be decent under cloak.
>>34376999Theseus OS is the reason our cover will be blown.
>>34376261As you make early preparations for the eventual arrival of the Union ship you take a quick note of the level of activity. You manage to pick up a short transmission to the Dauntless scheduling its launch for the following day. You have noted a steady increase in local traffic as shuttles move in and out of the station, cluttering the space around the massive floating city as they move in or out to the fledgling colonies.Meanwhile, on Raligha your drones have been slowly exploring the alien structure, being very careful to not trigger any potential traps or unknown technology. The entire mountain seems to be hollow; a massive honeycomb of alien metalwork and hexagonal tunnels intertwined in seemingly random patterns. The tunnels are interspaced with the occasional chamber, most of them empty or nearly so. The rooms clearly once served a purpose, but whatever equipment granted it that purpose has long since withered away or been looted by some other party.Outside the drumming has become louder and more frequent. The small village at the mouth of the cave entrance has swollen to a far greater population than before, and it loud howling and bellowing from the hollow trees echo through the valley."Hey, did you hear that?""Hear what?""That howl, almost like a didgeridoo.""Who the hell knows, man? We've been looking all night and all day for survivors and have nothing to show for it. I somehow doubt they would be having a cookout."Meanwhile Theseus continues to adjust the orbit of the satellite, coming to rest in the southern sky with its gaze on the hive. Theseus sends the requested data by you to ensure it is properly modified to remove the heat signatures of the Clarke and your corvettes as they continue their construction.
>>34377042"With the dramatic increase in ground activity, the tampering may be obvious even from orbit, if they bother to look close enough." Theseus says. "However, a malfunction in the satellite's payload may not give them the time to perform such a scan."You wonder for a moment. You should still have time to prepare.>Attempt to deceive the Union ship and attempt to maintain your cover.>Lure the Union with the Clarke and attempt to capture the Dauntless>Launch a surprise attack and attempt to destroy the Dauntless, framing the Unity or satellite malfunction.>Other (write in)
>>34377040What? Theseus OS is the reason it wasn't blown earlier. It's the reason the satellite hasn't tattled that the USV Clarke is still alive and not nothing more than a crater, prompting an investigation last week.It sounds like Theseus can cover up his presence entirely just fine, according to him.>>34377234>Attempt to deceive the Union ship and attempt to maintain your cover.The payload of nukes, he says?
Rolled 30 (1d100)>>34377234>Lure the Union with the Clarke and attempt to capture the DauntlessLets do it
>>34377234>Attempt to deceive the Union ship and attempt to maintain your cover.
>>34377234>Attempt to deceive the Union ship and attempt to maintain your cover.But, prepare:>Launch a surprise attack and attempt to destroy the Dauntless, framing the Unity or satellite malfunction.If the first option is failing.
>>34377234>Other Lure in the Union with the Clark to capture it, but frame the Unity for it. That way the Union won't bother seeing about taking it back, writing it as a total loss.
>>34377234>>Attempt to deceive the Union ship and attempt to maintain your cover.If it works it will bring about the best possible outcome for us. That said, I think we should consider getting the Clarke prepped and/or corvettes in orbit, juuuust in case.
>>34377234>Lure the Union with the Clarke and attempt to capture the Dauntless
>>34377234Why don't we put them through a test of moral foundation? Prepare an ambush, however, see if we can stealth our way through it. However, instead of destroying them immediately, we could wait to see if they try and activate the nuclear package on the satellite or not.
>>34377234>>Attempt to deceive the Union ship and attempt to maintain your cover.Guys, I'm scared
>>34377426Yeah, a few non-relayed Corvettes with instakill plasma lances nearby in orbit, waiting to pounce if things go south would be a wise backup plan.>>34377443Reread that thread.That isn't a test of character, that's a test of "has the bureaucracy of Parliament given them an authorization code to launch them."
>>34377465I suppose you're right. It just seems a little more ruthless than we need to be, killing all the people we have. We've probably slaughtered more than our fair share of Lees.
>>34377234>>Attempt to deceive the Union ship and attempt to maintain your cover.
>>34377619I know anon, personally I would've wished that diplomacy would've been viable, but the nuclear-armed satellite was the tipping point for me and we have the survival of our species at stake.
>>34377234Would it be possible to put the Clarke into orbit on the other side of the planet? If our deception with the satellite failed we could have it pull into view of the Dauntless and make it appear as if it suffered a catastrophic failure of some sort, and have the Dauntless attempt to board.
>>34377234>Attempt to deceive the Union and maintain your cover.Your corvettes are still not ready, although soon their repairs and refits will be complete. You schedule them to launch as they are ready and cloak within the asteroid field and wait for instructions. Theseus appears slightly disappointed. "I had hoped to get some more action. Exhibiting the inherent flaws in Union political procedures and watching the results are always entertaining. Still, if they move along with no issue then no sense in forcing a conflict. Will you be reloading the satellite, or will we just hope they don't bother looking for it. I could claim they are still loaded if they only use the exterior access terminal, but otherwise...">Yes, reload the nuclear warheads>No, it's too risky>Other
>>34377700Diplomacy is still viable. Just not in this immediate situation.
>>34377748>>OtherAsk Theseus how viable fakes are.
>>34377748>No, it's too riskyOne thing real world nations learning not so long ago was that if you take nukes form someone you don't give them BACK.Also, ask about fakes.
>>34377748>>OtherAsk if fakes can be madeotherwise>No, it's too riskyWe can blame it on Unity, right?
>>34377748>>No, it's too risky
>>34377748>Other: Fakes, OR: Have it throw up an error code complaining about possible danger, and that extensive repairs etc. will be necessary.
>>34377748Place in fakes.
>>34377800It's actually fairly low-risk, because:- if they decide to launch them, they still need to get an authorization code from Parliament -- this will take time.- Theseus can re-hack it easily and wirelessly at any point in time if the jig is up, if ever.
>>34377748>OtherFake them!Maybe it is time to start our own Manhattan project?
>>34377748>>Yes, reload the nuclear warheadsWe should be able to intercede should they attempt to launch them and as the Clarke demonstrates, our productions methods produce fundamentally off-looking materials compared to human-made junk. I doubt we can make any fakes.
>>34377748"How effective would fake warheads be in tricking them?"Theseus thinks on it for a moment. "Any lack of radiation would cause immediate suspicion, and the casings are highly particular. It would be quite difficult to construct a decoy payload, especially on such short notice.""What about a diversion. A warning of danger or radiation?""No." Theseus is rather clear this time. "Radiation shielding would let them ignore such a warning, and a warning of critical damage would likely result in more attention, or result in an extended schedule for repairs. Even worse, once they had opened it they would be even more concerned over the false reports.""And what if they were to be reloaded and be used?""I would be able to intercept any such command, or return fire with them. The possibility of them unloading the warheads themselves may be a potential danger, however."
>>34377748>>Yes, reload the nuclear warheadsI don't care if they're real or fake, because the risk from real ones actually hitting us is miniscule between bureaucracy and a hotshot hacker who plays by his own rules.>>34378079Load the real ones.
What if we could reload them and then rig them to blow?
>>34378079May as well put the nukes back then, maybe have Theseus rig them to blow on command if neccesary.
>>34378130We can just ask Theseus to trigger them at any time, there's no rigging involved.>>34377748>Yes, reload the nuclear warheads
>>34378079Did the Clark use up all it's warheads? Just curious.
>>34378079Yeah, just put them back.Worst that can happen is they run off with the nukes which... doesn't really concern me, honestly. We weren't likely to start researching those anytime soon and we can get more.
>>34378245That it did, along with all the other weapons it had.
>>34378079Don't put them back.
>>34378259>we can get more.We can't. That would take a shit ton of resources just to get one and we just got humans that could help us research the damn things.
>>34378079don't load them
>>34378245The spinal mount was snapped in half when it crashed, all of the exterior weapons and the shield emitters burned up on re-entry, and its payload of missiles had been expended in combat prior to the crash.
>>34378259Really, what are the odds of them being able to remove them before we notice*them trying to unload them and attack to stop them?The risk is low.
>>34378315Totally can. We can ambush a warship later on, board it, and steal their nukes. Which would be lower risk than not putting the nukes back in the satellite in this instance.The chance that they take the nukes is lower than the chance that they notice something is wrong if we don't put them back. Even if that weren't true, the stakes are way way higher for not putting them back. If the nukes' absence are noticed by them, further scrutiny that we can't dodge will come at us. Losing nukes is barely a pinprick compared to union attention.Ambushing a ship in another system would be far preferable to having a ship mysteriously disappear, or worse broadcast an SOS, in our system.
>>34378392Are you sure you'd want to attack them just to keep our hands on a few nukes? It'd blow our cover.
>>34378079Reload the real ones.
>>34378428That would take more resources than its worth. Especially since Union ships are prone to exploding.
>>34378526And risking a full armed conflict with them is expenditure of resources that is worth it? I'm sorry, I don't follow your logic.
>>34378079>Reload the satellite's payloadYou send a shuttle to pick up the buried weapons and carefully lift them into orbit to the satellite."I will monitor the situation as closely as possible, although opening communication will alert them of the Clarke's presence as well as my own. Under what circumstance would you want me to engage?">Not at all, let them poke around and leave without incident, unless they attempt to launch the warheads.>If they attempt to take the warheads.>If they become suspicious of tampering.>Other
We should just reload one and blow them to bits. Hey QD, how many do we have?
>>34378622>If they attempt to take the warheads.>If they become suspicious of tampering.
>>34378622>Not at all, let them poke around and leave without incident, unless they attempt to launch the warheads.>If they become suspicious of tampering.
>>34378622Damn. I'm conflicted, but.>>Not at all, let them poke around and leave without incident, unless they attempt to launch the warheads.
>>34378622>If they become suspicious of tampering.
>>34378622>Not at all, let them poke around and leave without incident, unless they attempt to launch the warheads.The only reason we need nukes so far is to have harder hitting missiles. Not really worth killing everything for.
>>34378639See >>33388807 >>33389700>>Payload full: 16 warheads available for dispersal>>34378622>>Not at all, let them poke around and leave without incident, unless they attempt to launch the warheads.
>>34378678>>34378679>>34378662>>34378655We tell Theseus if they become suspicious, make it look like Unity tampering.
Just light the nukes. Let the Unity take the heat. We wouldn't lose our cover.
>>34378622>Not at all, let them poke around and leave without incident, unless they attempt to launch the warheads.
>>34378755Actually, pirate tampering! There we go!Or maybe tampering by the guys to the Union's South?
>>3437863916 in total. Each one is labeled with a unique serial number.
>>34378709The nukes are just a small part of a larger category of tech known as Atomics. >>34378760That will still attract attention.
>>34378755This is the best answer.Losing the nukes isn't worth blowing them up over ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'D LOSE THE NUKES ANYWAY THAT WAY.
>>34378828You are an oasis of reason anon.Anyway, if we manage to get out of this intact, we need to invest on off-system production facilities, so that we don't have all our eggs in one basket.
>>34378788No one is as good and subtle at hacking as Unity, how would you pin it on the Commonwealth or random pirates, why would random pirates take interest here?>>34378622>Not at all, let them poke around and leave without incident, unless they attempt to launch the warheads.>, although opening communication will alert them of the Clarke's presence as well as my own. Under what circumstance would you want me to engage?"I assume he means opening wireless communications to rehack the satellite/give it commands. But we have a FTL psionic relay hooked and wired directly into the Clarke, so Theseus and the Queen can talk via that interface freely even while they're here, right?
>>34378904I saw look for more asteroids to hollow out and out labs inside them. absolute perfect containment and if needed, disposal.
>>34378904You one of the thing I've been trying to push for the long time. So why haven't we tried colonizing OM-759?
>>34378622"Do not engage unless they attempt to launch the warheads.""Very well. If they detect any anomaly I will attempt to integrate with their system before they can isolate it. An infected piece of software should not arouse too much suspicion given the circumstances.">>34378943You would need to remove it for your current plan to work, as it looks like a space slug with a USB port jammed into the radio. Theseus has embedded a copy of himself in the satellite, although he usually maintains continuous contact between the Clarke and the monitor so they are essentially the same.
>>34379083Current plan? We don't have a psionic relay inside the satellite, just the Clarke.Also what ground activity does Theseus determine is detectable from orbit? Just the hive's docking pylon and the ships (corvettes, the Clarke) docked there?
Hey I went through the ask and put stats to idea's would you guy's like me to post them now?
>>34379083The day is spent readying your corvettes and preparing for the worst.Next Day>Current resources4379N 17180MThe Dauntless embarks in schedule from Calpamos station and begins to accelerate out of system. After several hours of steady acceleration it vanishes with a wink of radiation as it wraps itself in a bubble of twisted spacetime.You suspect the Dauntless will arrive in mere hours, and only one issue remains. What to do with the Clarke.>Have the Clarke hide in the asteroid belt on the far side of the system.>Send the Clarke out of system into deep space.>Other>>34379177All of the growing activity has resulted in an anomalous and very large heat signature. A mix of the anti-orbital batteries, the repair, refit, and construction of your corvettes, and the pylon itself.Also, I misread that, sorry.
>>34379408>Send the Clarke out of system into deep space.Obviously.Dammit it's too late to replace the docking pylon with one on another continent. I've been wanting to do that for threads and threads.
>>34379408>Have the Clarke hide in the asteroid belt on the far side of the system.
>>34379408>Send the Clarke out of system into deep space.Minimum risk of it being found there.
>>34379408>Send the Clarke out of system into deep space.
>>34379408Which does Theseus think woulf be better?
>>34379408>>Send the Clarke out of system into deep space.
>>34379408Make sure to attach a cloaking device just it case.
>>34379838>>34379842NO AND THAT'S FINAL!
>>34379857>>34379842>>34379838Are you being serious or are you guys just fucking around?
>>34379857YES AND WE CONTINUE.
>>34379860I really hope they're not serious about giving Unity stealth tech for nothing.
>>34379912Who said it would be active?
>>34379878>this kills the bump limit.gif
>>34379912Well, there would be a stupidly large degree of trust that Theseus wouldn't jaunt off to Zero Five and have his drones reverse engineer the devices we attached to the Clarke's hull immediately.I agree it's an unnecessary leap of faith, yeah.
>>34379987What's your thoughts on the advanced relay we have on the ship?
>>34380056We should start adding self-destructs to those.
>>34380076Probably, not likely the way we all argue.
>>34379408Theseus takes the clarke and quickly accelerates out of the system and envelops itself in a blanket of twisted gravity as it passes the light barrier.Not long after the Clarke vanishes from space, your cloaked corvettes detect the distinct burst of radiation from the Union ship. You note that Union vessels seem to emit much more radiation than your own when exiting FTL.The Dauntless is slow to move, accelerating at a crawl as it drags itself across the system. It transmits the security code almost immediately, but it takes long hours to finally reach the planet. As it nudges itself into orbit with the grace of an Excavator in a pit of grease you see a small ship emerge from a hangar bay near the bottom of the hull."This is gunship two-zero. Dauntless, do you read?""Loud and clear two-zero. Atmo is thick down there. Hot-drops will offer landing guidance.""Roger that, Dauntless. Will await the go ahead. Moving to holding pattern."The small craft fires a number of small jets and nudges itself down and to the side. Shortly after four small metal pods erupt from the belly of the ship and streak down towards the hive."Dauntless to two-zero, you are clear for approach. Report any sightings and avoid contact if at all possible. Just stop by and say hi, fellas. We shouldn't take too long on our end.""Copy." Another voice can be heard over the mic from the gunship. "You don't need to tell us twice. Place is a shithole, what I hear.""Don't go saying that to any locals, private. In fact, just don't talk for the rest of the trip."The mic cuts out and the ship descends.1/2
>>34380096I still want to establish backup hives on the far side of the planet where we can build another docking pylon, since other continents receive less scrutiny.And also as a panic room to move to in case of serious war erupting.But I haven't gotten enough backup to make it a thing so far.>>34380378Welp, time to see if we can even intercept them in time.
>>34380378>In fact, just don't talk for the rest of the trip."Right they know we hear radio waves.
>>34380378Dammit QD, you're supposed to write up parts 1 and 2 at once and *then* post them near-simultaneously. QD pls.
>>34380488Something must have happened to QD?
>>34380378We should get our speaker out with a bunch of unarmed warriors, and have the speaker rush out calling them fire gods. To reinforce the idea that we're primitives.>>34380548No. He always does this.
>>34380566Haha. Claim the pylon is a temple to them or something?>>34380378Too bad we don't have any aerodynamic drones.
>>34380632Our ruse is compromised get over it.
>>34380632Shit's like Prometheus."HE BROUGHT US FIRE. THE LIGHT OF CIVILIZATION."
As long as all our ships aren't docked and are cloaked and in orbit.
>>34380669How quickly can we whip up statues of Lee?
>>34380378Bellow, from the surface of your hive you watch as four red hot canisters break through the cloud cover, each one streaking a small chute behind it and shaking from the force of a set of retro rockets. They burst open shortly before impact, release a set of bulky humanoids that each impact the ground at a force you would expect to kill a human. Your patrolling sniffers hide in the trees not far from them as they quickly move to a clearing."Landing beacon is set. LZ clear."The gunship drops down and in moments releases a large rectangular vehicle that quickly spins its wheels in the mud before starting to move across the plains. It comes to a stop not far from the site of the original camp where you first found the Clarke's crew."Dammit, somebody wake up Scotch." You hear over the radio as the vehicle's door swings open and a number of humans clad in dark armor rush out with weapons at the ready. Their uniforms shift in hue until they match the mossy plains and they quickly assemble a perimeter around the vehicle as the gunship ascends back into the air."Camp is clear, sir.""You don't need to call me sir. It feels weird." You recognize the voice. It's difficult to tell at first, but as your sniffers watch from the treeline you see Lee stumble out of the vehicle, bumping his helmet visor against the roof. He is followed by another man you don't recognize, although both of them are wearing similar uniforms, more ornate than the soldiers."We should be careful out here. The airborne predators are a real issue.""No worrying about animals, man. Some dino-bird can't stop a marine!""I thought I told you no talking for the mission.""Yes, Sarg.">>34380566>>34380488It's a bad habit, I know.
>>34380729Not quickly enough.
>>34380669Lee is subsequently reprimanded for passing valuable technology to class 0 culture and accelerating their technological culture to the point of constructing skyscrapers in prayer to Union forces.
>>34380729You mean we don't already have them?
>>34380742Our favorite human is back. Quick, whip up some lighter banners.
>>34380742Oh, christ. How many warriors and colossi do we have on hand?
>>34380742>Drop TroopersThat is tech worth stealing.
>>34380742Time to send a swarm of workers their way to bar their path.They aren't supposed to be here dammit.
>>34380742Yay lee~We should send some workers to their rough vicinity to look vaguely primitively industrious. Try to get this to go down far from the hive itself.Also, please allow us to have retroactively disembarked those warriors from the Clarke we didn't end up using. Just in case.
>>34380836Have them be headed by the speaker, and be acting exhilarated that "FireGod" is back.
>>34380862I just hope the speaker with the color-shifting skin can maintain the exact appearance of a peacock carapace that can't color-shift.
>>34380742make a small group to meet Lee"The light bringer has returned, he who fell from the sky and gave the Hive hope for the future"
>>34380831We've got Lyle's version we have stolen it.
>>34380906I like this. lets do this.
>>34380906As hilarious as the Lee gags are.More important is stopping them from getting within sight of anything.
>>34380906We should be less... unsubtle, I feel. Lee's worried about breaking the rules with us, and he knows we're smart enough to not mess with him like that.We should definitely mention we're worried about his companions. When he left we expressed concern with the warlike ways of humans.
>>34380742Well we did palantir our way into seeing Spaceman Ryan Lee getting a promotion for surviving the Fungolian Death World.So I guess he's Sarge now. And also no longer an electrician, but a marine dude?Whatever. A mix of workers and warriors-who-don't-fire-projectiles to intimidate them is a must.
>we might have to kill LeeI just realized we're the monster.
>>34381046There's no compelling reason to kill him under basically any circumstances if we don't want to. Even in the unlikely event that he takes up arms against us.
>>34381039>warriors with no projectile weaponsWhat about our flamethrower weapons?>>34380986Anything of ours. If they find the Clarke gone, we can say we have no idea what happened to it. Or even that deadly machines took it away.>>34381046We were always the bad guys.
>>34381039Intimidation seems unnecessary. Just have some dudes "coincidentally" run across their party.
>>34381101No, being annoyed at human invasion with weapons, just like the three Unity drones they suspect we destroyed, is perfectly understandable from their perspective.Just meeting them is not enough to make them turn around and leave.
>>34381100Can we at least let Lee be the lone survivor?
>>34380742>no vote prompt>no indication of further partsThis is just the 'wait and see what the anons discuss as possible courses of action' part huh.
>>34381100They haven't seen warriors with any kind of ranged weapon yet. Let's not show them more.>>34381130Yes it is. They're clearly operating by Rules down here. Not rules we fully understand, but clearly limitations. They're not here to fight, and Lee seems to be in command of the landing party.
>>34380742You watch from your corvettes as the Dauntless creeps to the satellite and swallows it into the hangar bay."Two-zero, we have the monitor. Don't drag your ass down there."The Union marines are far more impressively equipped then the soldiers you have seen so far, especially the drop troopers. Lee looks to the other human, both of them appear to be unarmed and their suits are far more smooth and sleek then you have seen before. >>34380850Of course. I had assumed you did not intend to use them when you sent the Clarke out of system. They are in the hive. A small yellow bar is emblazoned on Lee's chest plate, while the other is unranked."So what now, sir?" Lee asks."You tell me. We're in uncharted waters here. The only reason we are even here is because you and your crew mates bumped into these people by accident, and you know them better than anyone. I'm here as an observer, as a Second Lieutenant you are the ranking officer here, no offense to the Sergeant."A man steps forward and removes his helmet to the shock of Lee and several others. He takes a deep breath before responding in a raspy voice straining from the spores, "None taken. Any excuse to add one more to the collection.""Collection?" Lee asks. A private leans in and whispers as the sergeant places his helmet back on."Sarg wants to taste the air of every world known to man. If it has air that is. We don't think even he's crazy enough to try out vacuum."The marines quickly assemble a small set of dishes and fence poles, which you note they do not turn on.>Watch from a distance>Send a speaker>Send other drones (write in)>Other
>>34381188>Watch from a distance
>>34381046Was this before or after you realized we were playing giant bugs?>>34381101We don't need to make it coincidental, we just say we saw them fall from the sky.>>34381130We aren't going to make them turn and leave with anything we have dude. Either they think we are primitive and they wont be scared or they think we lied to them and we just confirm it. They haven't even seen our warriors have they? Why let them know we have them at all?
>>34381188>Send a speakerHave him colored the same way Lee is. Including small fiddly details.
>>34381188>>Send a speaker>>Send other drones (write in)Those are sensors that will pick up all our docking pylon and other heavy industry heat signatures!They have to be stopped before they get the equipment running.Send like 40 workers and 40 warriors.
>>34381188Not this shit again.
>>34381247Dont send any warriors. They haven't seen them before how are you going to explain where they came from?
>>34381247If only we could put them into suspended animation. Why can't we anyway?
>>34381188>>Send a speaker>>Send other drones (write in)send like 2 workers and 3 mini sniffers, enough to make show them we're not scary monsters while being enough to make fighting not worth it for them
>>34381281That there are warrior caste drones isn't that weird.Send wasps, then. They'll arrive faster.The Speaker admitted that "others fly", in that first First Contact Q&A with the humans.
>>34381247If they ask, we're trying to light the pylon on fire in honor of Lee. And our Hive is just hot because.>>34381281They already know we can make a drone with the same vocal apparatus as humans. Knowing that we have drones with hyper-effective melee weapons won't tell them anything they don't already suspect.
>>34381188Would 30 wasps with some carrying the speaker arrive faster than on foot?Or, not foot.What do you call the end of an insect's leg.
>>34381188>Send a speaker>Send other drones (write in)5 workers. Just to be fancy.>>34381247Don't be silly. There's shit sending that many can do to stop them that wont be more effectively achieved by more conservative deployment.
>>34381313I hadn't thought of that. A much better explanation then this >>34381307
>>34381348According to Google, the part they walk on is the Tarsus.Also, pedilaps are the part of the insect that is near the mouth, and allows spiders to play the song of their people.
>>34381188Send:.3 wasps.2 workersAnd:Then a speakerDon't want them thinking we knew they we're here.
>>34381348Speed doesn't seem to matter much right now. It's not a matter of particular urgency.
>>34381188>Send a speakerOptional with varying degrees of support>Send 5 workers>Send 2 workers and 3 mini sniffers>3 wasps and 2 workers>Other
>>34381394That depends on what happens when they turn them on.If they are merely communications relays to orbit, or if they're used as radar.Getting there before they're turned on might be important then.
>>34381424>Send 5 workers
>>34381424Send 5 workers.
>>34381424All of the above. 7 workers, 3 wasps, 3 small sniffers.Except the small sniffers stay out of sight and surround the area. Even more so than they already are, I guess, since we can hear them.
>>34381424>>Send 5 workersTo think we almost could've killed Lee.
>>34381424>Send 5 workersWe already have spies in the area, right?Anyway, anything but wasps.
>>34381453They use Radios and they think we communicate using radio waves.
I suspect that when the Union intelligence office requested more detailed scans of the surface, they weren't looking for the Clarke.Or weren't just looking for it, anyway.They were looking for Lyle. Or rather, whatever nameless shadowrunner their Mr. Johnson intermediary Broker hired for the job. Since the job wasn't done yet, despite being seemingly simple.And now they've run out of patience, and the recent Unity activity in the Expanse has ramped up their paranoia.I imagine we have a natural opponent somewhere in New Port, poring over his reports and trying to find the patterns that his instincts tell him must be there.
>>34381503We should send garbled radio nonsense around the place.
>>34381424>Speaker and 5 workersYour drones embark towards the landing zone It takes some time to reach the camp and as your drones move in your sniffers and flies observe from the edge of the jungle."The receiver is online, sir." One of the marines says. The unranked man claps his hands at the news. "Excellent! Keep it recording, who knows what complexity could be found in the noises of the local life here. What about the gravitational scan?""Nothing, sir. The Dauntless says the planet is clean.""Disappointing, but expected. Just keep recording those astounding flyers for now.""Contact!"The marines spot your drones as they hike down to the camp site. Lee quickly dusts a thin layer of spores from his suit and moves away from the marines awkwardly. "Ah, hello. Long time no see. I... guess."You hear one of the marines open a private channel to another. "This guy is supposed to be a diplomat? He sounds like a sophomore at prom.">Speak (write in)>Demand they leave>Ask (write in)
Okay, while we wait.It might be worthwhile to start designing drones while we still have life in the thread.First, we want a drone design with seeker pods. Seekers are good for firing at enemies without losing cover, and for hitting enemies hiding behind their own cover--it would have been good with the cave standoff. As would flooding the cave with poison gas, but never mind that.Does anyone else want some decent stealthy attackers, which we lack? A cheap one and an even cheaper one.Basic AssassinBlade: Hypodermic 2Legs: Sprint 1Wings: Basic 1Carapace: Adaptive camouflage 8Mimetic skin 2Acid glands 1Size: SmallCost: 3NUpkeep: 1NScorpion AssassinAcoustic: Advanced 2Olfactory: Moderate 1Blade: Hypodermic 2Legs: Sprint 1Wings: Advanced 4Carapace: Adaptive camouflage 8Mimetic skin 2Tail 6 (hypodermic)Radiator tubes 4Acid glands 1Size: SmallCost: 7NUpkeep: 3N
>>34381721>Speak (write in)Greet Lee while ignoring the others.
>>34381721What is a sophomore? What is a porm?
>>34381721>Speak (write in)Welcome Lee back, ask what they're here for, if they detect anything wrong with the satellite, mention Unity coming back a while ago, that should hopefully keep them off us.
>>34381721>"The Hive is pleased to see you again, Lee, bringer of light.">"Though we are curious as to why you are back, and what you did with the speaking thing above." (Reference to satellite.)>>34381782This too. We pretend his subordinates do not exist.
>>34381721"Hello Lee.""Why are you here. Your dead leader said you would 'return to the sky' and not invade our home again."
>>34381805That was a private channel. We did not hear that, officially.And Lee didn't hear it at all.So let's not, hilarious tho it be.>>34381812Don't mention the satellite, has it even stopped transmitting? we should have no way of telling they took it into their hangar bay if it's still broadcasting.
>>34381721>Speak (write in)"We welcome the Lee happily. Why have they come, are they reformed?"We totally agreed they wouldn't come back unless they stopped being so fighty.
>>34381843True. Although asking what it was is a good question to fuck with them. And if it's not broadcasting anymore, then asking why it isn't, again, is good.
>>34381847The wording was >>32363594>"Yea...maybe when we're more civilized I'll come and visit."You come armed. You said you would be more civilized. Are you more civilized, Ryan Lee?
>>34381721>>Speak (write in)"Lee, the Hive has missed our conversations. Life here continues to garner most of our attention but you were a enjoyable re4preve from the struggle. How have you been?">>Ask (write in)"Tell us, has your vessel broken down again? We would offer to craft a place to safely rest if time and repairs are needed?"
>>34381721>Speak and>Ask a mix of>>34381782>>34381813>>34381847And if he has another lighter with him. I think we 'Used up' the old one.
>>34381917Leeeet's not mention the lighter. We don't want to get him in trouble. Like seriously.
>>34381806I like the sound of this.
>>34381884The key word there.>ifQD has not indicated the broadcasting has been silenced. So assume nothing has changed without narration indicating otherwise.
>>34381977Anon, we've been over this already. The Union knows Lee gave us that lighter. We were planning on using that as our symbol.
>>34382018>The Union knows Lee gave us that lighterNo it doesn't.>planningThat was a joke. Do you understand jokes?
>>34381977Besides it ruins our chance to make a joke about the lighter if they actually see something.
>>34382018no they don't mknow we have it. Unity knows we have it cause we told Thesus it was all because of the lighter. he kinda laughed
No idea what sort of techs we'd need for this, but considering our concern for secrecy it might be worth looking into some sort of jamming tech.
>>34381721"Hello." Your drone chirps in response. It seems to startle him slightly. "You said you would not return. Why have you come back?""Ah, well. It's a bit of a long story.""You are here with warriors. Big weapons. Why?""Whoa whoa hold on. You have some really nasty predators here, ok? We just came too... Stop by and say hello. You know?""No.""Ah, jeez. Well um."You see the unranked human walk up behind lee, a beaming grin shows through his visor and he places a hand on Lee's shoulder as he interrupts, shoving him to the side. "Greetings, I am Jhon Smith. What my associate here is trying to say is that we have been noticing an increase in the dangers of this area of space, and we wanted to stop by and make sure it wasn't effecting you. You haven't noticed anything... odd, have you? Floating spheres, big cylinders in the sky, big explosions or things like that?"Your drone continues to watch Lee in silence. Smith exchanges an awkward glance with Lee as and he speaks up again. "Uh, this is... my friend. Smith.">Answer (write in)>Speak (write in)>Continue to ignore everyone but Lee
>>34382040jamming is just a word for transmitting real loud.It would be even more conspicuous.
>>34382018Lee specifically asked us to keep it a secret and that was the last time we talked to the union. They don't know shit.
>>34382074Brah the fuck you talkin bout
>>34382074>>Continue to ignore everyone but LeeLee is bad at lying. Stick to him.
>>34382074keep ignoring them
>>34382074>Continue to ignore everyone but Lee
>>34382074>>Continue to ignore everyone but Lee
Rolled 31 (1d100)>>34382074>>Continue to ignore everyone but LeeHe's the only one who is trustworthy
>>34382074>>Answer (write in)"No we have seen no shining spheres, but we did witness the big cylinder in the sky once since you last came to this world."
>>34382074>Continue to ignore everyone but LeeMan, If we mention Unity was here and say they've been conducting surveys, that may give them an excuse not to suspect us with tampering the satellite, but if haven't found anything yet, it would want to make them look even harder.Also,>Jhon Smith
>>34382074>>Continue to ignore everyone but Lee"Smith is a very nice name, from what the Hive knows of such things"Wait until Smith starts to repeat himself, then while speaking to Lee "We have yet to see anything you would call strange, besides the wonders our world already contains. Even the skies have been strangely quiet since you departed"
>>34382074>Continue to ignore everyone but LeeAnd have our drones just kind of stand there awkwardly. Maybe one of the workers in the back begins preening its shovel blades.
>>34382074>Answer (write in)"The Land of Lee has been peaceful since you left."
>>34382074>Ignore all but Lee.Continue to cement him as a key diplomatic figure. Less likely to get him in trouble, easier for us to keep tabs on a friendly.
>>34382158> in the skyWe have impenetrable clouds. We couldn't see shit if we tried.
>>34382164>>34382119>>34382169>>34382174these, stick with Lee since he likes us. listen to what the others say but only answer too and acknowledge Lee when the talk
>>34382169Leeland is a fine name and all, but no, that was on the black box, we cannot mention this.
>>34382074>>Continue to ignore everyone but Lee>>34382078maybe something passive instead of active then? Some variation of a Faraday cage? We could use the Unity sphere's lightning gun defense as a starting point even.
>>34382074Should we say humans came and attacked the hive and we haven't noticed anything strange besides apples flying around.
>>34382216What possible scenario would that be applied to?The only thing I can think of is imprisoning something that can emit radio waves.
>>34382212>>34382221Pfft. Lee is the only one here who knows that he suggested Leeland as the name of the planet. The Union actually has no record of it since, you know, they never recovered the black box.Plus, it's not extraordinary enough to not pass off as a coincidence.
>>34382233No. We want to seem kind of clueless.And if they want information, they're going to have to extract it blood-from-stone style.>>34382246It also stops waves from getting in, too.Also, if this John Smith guy speaks up again, we oughta get our speaker to remind him that; "Workers are not to pretend to be speakers."And then just leave it at that, like he's committed some major diplomatic faux pas.
>>34382281>No. We want to seem kind of clueless.>And if they want information, they're going to have to extract it blood-from-stone style.Yeah this.If they really, really press us, we could say that a drone was captured and killed by a human, who then disappeared.But only if they really extract that info, like they were told to expect there was a specimen capture mission here two weeks ago.
>>34382246it wouldn't be useful for large scale things, but it might be useful in dealing with scouting parties. I have this weird idea of a large, hollow drone the you shoot at people or things, it envelops them, blocking signals, buying time if nothing else. Not exactly practical, but it's fun to think about.
>>34382074>Continue to ignore everyone but Lee"So. For what reason are you here?"
>>34382281>Also, if this John Smith guy speaks up again, we oughta get our speaker to remind him that; "Workers are not to pretend to be speakers.">And then just leave it at that, like he's committed some major diplomatic faux pas.peeeerrrrfect
>>34382074Your speaker simply stairs at Lee as several long seconds pass in silence."Uh, we have seen a lot more dangerous stuff around lately and wanted to make sure you were ok. Have you seen anything like big cylinders or floating spheres that shoot things?""Only when humans are here."Smith's smile quickly disappears as Lee gives him a slight shrug. Smith takes several steps back and crosses his arms as Lee continues. "Well that's good... I guess. Look, normally we would never intrude like this, or at all, but since we already met once we figured we might as well try to get to know each other."You can see the frustration slowly growing on Smith's face as he spins his pointing finger in a small circle as Lee slowly speaks. Lee continues. "So... I mean if it's ok, maybe we could discuss some things like, what it's like here, or how you survive? You know, basic stuff. Cultural exchange.">Agree>Refuse>Demand to only speak to Lee in private>Other
>>34382367>Demand to only speak to Lee in privateWell, this is going to put a damper in our plans.
>>34382367>Demand to only speak to Lee in private
>>34382367"Irrelevant data. Why?"
>>34382367>Agreebut>Demand to only speak to Lee>OtherInform the others that only Lee is accepted as a diplomat.
I hope these guys don't find our prison full of humans and shit
>>34382367>Ask a question in reply:>"The Hive survives. What else can be known?">>34382394>>34382399No no no. Then they might think we have something to hide.We do this in front of them, but Lee is the only one who is allowed to ask questions.
>>34382437It's deep underground beneath a quasi-burned clearing surrounded by acres of deadly jungle.They won't.It's the docking pylon that you should worry about.
>>34382308To make the lie even more misleading, tell them the worker that was 'caught' has ocean spores. That'll make them think that the human has got the spores as well.
>>34382367>>Agreebut>>Demand to only speak to Lee in private>>Other"The Hive fails to see the relevance of such exchange, but Lee is friend so we shall comply for now. Information exchange can begin here if you wish but only Lee will speak with this one. While the Hive wishes the humans safety, our trust is something that is few and not easily given"
>>34382367>Refuse>Other what is it that you are here for?
>>34382490waaay too wordy
>>34382367>Play dumb"Here is here. We survive in the jungle."Act confused.Invite Lee to a dance party.
>>34382490TMI.We just need to ask why exchanging ideas is important if the Hive is doing fine.
>>34382367"The Hive fails to see what such an exchange would offer either of our peoples. Our world is harsh and unforgiving to those not born here."
>>34382367"I do not understand the purpose of such discussion. We do not need to know how your kind survives on your world."
>>34382525>"Here is here. We survive in the jungle."That's also a good backup direction to take, after playing the role of the 5-year-old kid asking "why?"
>>34382541*the drone said, while thinkers began researching human diet to synthesize food paste for two dozen human prisoners
>>34382578I would imagine feeding humans what our drones eat as akin to fueling a car with what jetfighters use.
>>34382601So much diarrhea.
>>34382616Exactly my thoughts.It'll be like a Mexican prison run by giant insects.
>>34382629Ugh.Fortunately bioengineering is so advanced we can probably devise a diet that will be absorbed entirely without excess waste products left over from inferior digestive systems.
>>34382661It would be so strange to never need to poop...
>>34382367I like this>>34382459 as response, we ought to figure our their motivation, and establish what we have to gain.
>>34382661We should design a drone that make food for humans but only let humans eat directly from the drone.
>>34382629Anyone else feel like burritos?
>>34382367"It is irrelevant to you. Why would you wish to know?""Uh, well, I guess because we want to know. To better ourselves.""Adapt?""Yes! We want to know so we can adapt, that's right.""Only with Lee.""Oh, only with Lee?" He points to his chest as if to be absolutely sure and glances back to smith. "Ok. That's cool.""But first, why?""Wait, why what?" Lee seems slightly confused. "You hid information before to prevent such exchange. Why do you wish for it now?""Oh, right. Well like I said, we already met you by accident, so we figured the damage was done. Parliament figured it would be as good a time as any to learn as much as possible from another species we usually leave alone. I guess they thought I would be the best guy to do it. Because of what happened."The sun begins to set on the horizon, a hazy glow through the thick clouds."Second Lieutenant, we should be getting to shelter soon." Smith says."Right. I guess we will be able to talk more in the morning, unless you want to join our camp?"You hear in the distance. "Thing better not mess up the damn upholstery. Greenhorns a bad enough to clean up after.""Stow it!">Agree>Decline>Other
>>34382699Ass-to-mouth, or mouth-to-mouth?Link related, what they'd have to do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophallaxis
>>34382705I am currently eating a questionable taco bell burrito that I had sitting in my car for like 8 hours. I regret nothing.
>>34380742>you see Lee stumble out of the vehicle, bumping his helmet visor against the roof.Ha I missed this on first read.Lee's bumbling is so adorable.
>>34382734>AgreeWe don't really have much of a culture when it's just the Queen and her autistic kids.We need to start construction of a remote colony
>>34382734>Agree>otherLay more speaker drones. Just in case.
>>34382734>AgreeAny chance for second thread, or are we doomed to stop midway through this convo.
>>34382734>Agree, but workers leave to go build more farms. Speaker only.>"The Hive does not know what you would like to know. We do not know how to make fire like you do. We do not know how to fly like you do."
>>34382753You are a brave man anon. I wish you luck in the tribulations that you will soon face.
>>34382800Nah its the queen and her autistic thinkers, and retarded children.
>>34382734What a terrible night to end early.I'm considering we should probably lie and say we're just hunter-gatherers and conceal the existence of underground farms.And how to explain how we keep our underground caves cool, when officially, Lee saw our caves at the beginning and there was no Infrastructure.We could say drones do something something as a primitive form of air conditioning like bees do.
>>34382753You know, what you must do.
>>34382661Technically waste isn't just from the parts of food that we can't digest. Much of physical waste is cellular byproducts that the body can't use anymore/things that become toxic if they remain. A lot of your shit is the unusable parts of broken down dead blood cells for example. A cellular system which produces no harmless internal byproducts that require excretion would be fantastically advantageous. No idea how our fantasy aliens operate here but I'll take impossibly clean bugs as my headcanon.
>>34382734>OtherInvite Lee over for a booty call>34382744You know in your heart which I mean.
>>34382734>>AgreeOf course, we should limit the info we give to him about the hive. How we only have a set number of breeds the queen can produce, and how we rely mainly on our natural appendages to fight. Give them info on biological quirks of the planet, the dangerous spores, and massive beetles that bust a nut when an electrical current is used in the open. You know, the harmless stuff.
>>34382699Don't be ridiculous.We're going to have nipples on the wall that humans have to suckle from, if anything.
>>34382894what, at least they don't have to put their genitals in a drones mouth, so that their waste can be recycled.
>>34382916Fuck you man I haven't eaten yet and this discussion is doing weird things to my appetite.
>>34382894I was joking about the nipples, because they sound silly.>>34382845Oh, and dammit we're gonna have to either prove Seiner wrong about the gestalt intelligence theory, or admit to the truth of a hierarchical system with the Queen controlling drones.We could lie when they ask, how we're organized. Or half-lie. "Drones provide food, maintain hive, queen provides more drones. So it always is."
>>34382958>either ... , orI meant "if we" damn the editing of that post got away from me.
>>34382851This is legitimately the funniest thing I can remember reading on 4chan.
>>34382818Thank you kind anon.>>34382851That is actually tempting in a disturbing way...
>>34382958The half-lie sounds best.Plus it fits in how we've gone about our discussions: being a huge pain in the ass.Although we might add "each member of the Hive knows and has their place."Cue menacingly looking in Smith's direction.
>>34383017Yes, I like this. Especially the last line.
>>34382958Other things to lie about:lifespan. We could pretend drones die off after about two summers, instead of being functionally immortal. (The planet has two summers a year with that elliptic orbit.)We collect flora and fauna from the jungle, hiding from predators. Who we have hopefully *fully cataloged* now with the recent ecological survey, so we won't be caught in ignorance of something we should know exists.What dangerous predators exist, what poisonous spore plants exist besides the ocean walker, etc.
>>34382734>>Agreeas long as its a dissolving Speaker then hell yeah
>>34383041We could be less precise and say drones die when they die. If they press lifespan, we can say no drone is older than X number of seasons.
>>34382734Fuck.If they're gonna be here days and days.And we can't even risk doing anything that will show large heat signatures from the activity like constructing new corvettes.We might as well shut down everything that might give us away, as long as the teardown process itself isn't detectable by heat radiation or sound.We really should do that. Maybe during the hottest part of the day so heat signatures are really washed out.
>>34383017Seconding this. I like it quite a bit.
>>34383098so lets lay thinkers, and research.
>>34383114Warriors too.Just in case.
>>34383130Sure, but how many and do we do any variants.
>>34383098Can still build farms and research stuff. Our off-world mining base will have to shut down production after a certain point without fresh food though.
>>34383017>Plus it fits in how we've gone about our discussions: being a huge pain in the ass.We give, and the universe gives back.Theseus, Coil, the Skyl, talking to any of them was like pulling teeth.Because face it, it's fun to obfuscate.
>>34383098Question, how have they not noticed the docking pylon by now? Did we put a cloaking device on it or something?
>>34382734"Acceptable."Lee leads your small group of drones back to the perimeter of marines as they unfold the thick plating of the vehicle into an impressively sturdy looking shelter, all things considered. The door swivels open and half of the marines file inside.The marine sergeant bellows out as they gather into the shelter "Alright, ladies! You're about to be treated to some of the best damn stew this side of the Antonine Wall! My own recipe." You can hear grumbles from the rest of the marines."Sarg, can I just go eat some of that mushroom tree?""Can it!"The shelter extends out one of the walls and creates an enclosed space of thin plastic just beyond the entrance. Two of the four drop troopers move their massive bulks into the awning and their suits unfold from them. Each one is covered in small metal ports along their arms and down their spine, with reinforcing across their shoulders, much like Lyle.Your workers stand watch outside with several marines. They pass your drones awkward glances from time to time, but otherwise maintain their vigil."I swear it's looking at me.""It's looking at everything you moron. Compound eyes."As the day comes to a close you look over your drone population and think of what else you need. You have boosted your population tremendously, but you still have room to grow.>Lay new drones (write in)>Other
>>34383161They notice.But they have yet to remark upon it.
how small can we make units? if possible we could send like a dozen spider sized drones with them in secret
>>34383142Our shuttle has a cloaking device, it can make the trip.>>34383137We really need ocean exploration models. crab warriors, so that they can capture and kill something from deeper, so we can then lay warriors with fins for swimming once we catch a fungus fish.Aquatic WarriorOlfactory: Basic 0Acoustic: Advanced 2Psionic: Basic 0Radio: Moderate 2EM: None 0Mandible: Combat 1Blade: Combat 1Arms: Strength 1Legs: Sprint 1Carapace: Combat 3N10MGills 4Cost: 15NUpkeep: 7N
>>34383161It's basically a spire of rock and rock-like chitin inside / on top / next to a mountain range anon.
>>34383172>Lay new drones:>100 Warriors>7 Shock Troopers
>>34383172>Lay new drones (write in)More thinkers, More shock troopers.
>>34383172You aren't gonna make a new thread are ya.Lay 50 normal Thinkers.And with that added capacity, have the twins assist researching Regeneration Tank so we can actually perform some medical assistance on the prisoners with our giant amniotic sacs.
>>34383172>Lay new drones (180 Thinks (90 normal, 90 Quantum), 100 warriors, 15 Shock Troopers)
>>34383177The smallest of the small drones is like 4 cm, that's right out.Besides we don't need to be among them. we can hear them from the outside with the small sniffers' advanced acoustics.>>34383172Lay 20 assassins and 10 scorpions? >>34381755
>>34383172>Lay new drones More shock troops. Start to replace the old thinkers with the quantum ones. At least 5 more speakers.
>>34383161From this distance, it is actually obscured by the spores that typically fill the air when it doesn't rain like snow. It is some miles away from the camp site.
>>34383172Lay 2 spy flies, they should have an easier time spying on lee and his group then our snifers.
>>34383256Can we fit cloaking devices on it as an added security, if only for the duration of he Human's stay.
>>34383256How long would it take to dismantle?
>>34383172180 Regular thinkers or Quantum Thinkers. Need to increase are research power.
>>34383253shock troops are practically pointless, I don't know why some anons are so in love with them.They add extremely little value as things are, we already got *more than enough* to provide the other warriors with a senses bonus, we have a goddamn 1:4 ratio.
>>3438322290 normalCost=540upkeep=27090 quantumCost=900Upkeep=450100 warriorsCost=800N 1000MUpkeep=40015Shock troopersCost=405N 195MUpkeep=202
>>34383279go with regular, looks like all but one of our research subjects are strictly reverse-engineering.
>>34383172>>Lay new drones (write in)100 warriors4 collusiSeriously, I think Raligha showed just how useful these drones are on the battlefield.
>>34383172First, new drone designs to make official or not.>>34381755Basic AssassinBlade: Hypodermic 2Legs: Sprint 1Wings: Basic 1Carapace: Adaptive camouflage 8Mimetic skin 2Acid glands 1Size: SmallCost: 3NUpkeep: 1NScorpion AssassinAcoustic: Advanced 2Olfactory: Moderate 1Blade: Hypodermic 2Legs: Sprint 1Wings: Advanced 4Carapace: Adaptive camouflage 8Mimetic skin 2Tail 6 (hypodermic)Radiator tubes 4Acid glands 1Size: SmallCost: 7NUpkeep: 3N
>>34383222Added two spy flies, and then you have my vote.
>>34383327Add two spy flies to >>34383222It does actually make sense now that we have company.
>>34383322NY; but change the hypodermic blades to combat except for the tail blade
>>34383322YYAnd add 5 collossi to the drones
>>34383322YNHypodermic blades have crappy enough penetration that they seem all but useless on small drones. On the cheap design it might be worth it for swarm tactics, but it's pointless on the other.
>>34383357Is that a good idea? QD indicated miniaturized melee claws don't do much damage on their own-- so you'd need a force multiplier like bioweapons to be effective.
Posting drone designs:Winged Worker or "Mud Wasps" Olfactory: Basic 0 Acoustic: Medium 1 Psionic: Basic 0 Mandible: Construction 1 Blade: Tool 1 Arms: Dex 1 Legs: Endurance 1 Wings: Advanced 4 or Moderate 2 Carapace: Basic 0 Size: Medium Cost: 9N or 7N Upkeep: 4N or 3N
>>34383371I see it the other way around. Hypodermic claws have low penetrating power, so they're *only* worth putting on small drones really, for stealthy sneak attacks rather than raw power.Since small drones with combat claws aren't as good as chopping someone's head off, best to give them something that's just as effective big or small.
>>34383374Thats the entire idea. These things will be equipped with the strongest toxins and bioweapons the hive can produce.
>>34383393The 3N upkeep version is acceptable.
Convoy drone (collector/transporter design) Olfactory: Basic 0 Acoustic: Medium 1 Psionic: Basic 0 Mandible: Construction 1 Blade: Tool 1 Arms: Dex 1 Legs: Endurance 1 utility: Honey Pot (4N) Carapace: Basic 0 Size: Medium or Large Cost: 9N or 18N Upkeep: 4N or 9N Listing two different options because both would have they're uses.
>>34383418>>34383404Miniature Banelings would be more effective.
>>34383322>assassinY>ScorpionYI'll add them to the official list for production thenGeneral consensus for new drones appears to be>90 Thinkers>90 Quantum thinkers>100 Warriors>15 Shock troopsThere is also some support for additional flies. You currently have 10>Lay more (how many)>Order is fine as is>Add other>>34383374Even with a small drone, all you would need is one hit to inject a bioweapon.
>>34383454>Order is fine as is
>>34383454>Order is fine as isWhen did we make flies?
Seeker DroneOlfactory: Basic 0 Acoustic: Medium 1 Psionic: Basic 0Mandible: Combat 1Blade: Combat 1 Arms: Strength 1 Legs: Sprint 1 Wings: Advanced 4Carapace: Basic 0 Radiator Tubes 4Seeker Pod 10Size: Medium Cost: 23NUpkeep: 11N
>>34383454+ 4 Collossi, Artillery never hurts the user's side
>>34383473In the same thread they were confirmed.Pay attention.They've been in the population list at the top of the thrad for several threads.
Are we on page 10
Ambush Wasp or Ambush Hornet Quantum brain 4 Olfactory: Basic 0 or Advanced 2 Acoustic: Basic 0 or Advanced 2 Radio: Medium 2 or Advanced 6N 3M EM: none or Moderate 2 Psionic: Basic 0 Mandible: Combat 1 Blade: Combat 1 Arms: Str 1 Legs: Sprint 1 Wings: Advanced 4 Utility: Explosive Glands 2 Tail (Combat blade) 6 Carapace: Adaptive Camouflage 8 Mimetic skin 2 Size: Medium Cost: 32N or 42N 3M Upkeep: 16N or 21N Listing to two designs because this drone can work without having improved senses, but it would work better with them. It could be teamed up with a fly for the better senses, but the design is really suited for being abandoned in enemy territory.
>>34383473I believe during the Raligha raid, or at least around that time. They were included in a bulk order along with a bunch of other drones.
>>34383475>Size: MediumAre you stupid?
>>34383393We should rename the mud wasps to "SeaBees">>34383454>Order is fine as is
>>34383498there are 11 pages now.
>>34383454Add 10 more flies
>>34383504I was being conservative.I wanted a Large carrier drone originally, too.
>>34383404They have poor penetrating power, which is even worse on small drones. On a medium drone, they could be expected to pierce "soft" armor with decent reliability. Small variants, I wouldn't expect even that much.
??? Drone (a small explosives drone that blends into it's surrounding) Olfactory: Basic 0 Acoustic: Basic 0 Mandible: Combat 1 Blade: Combat 1 Arms: Str 1 Legs: Sprint 1 Wings: Advanced 4 Utility: Explosive Glands 2 Carapace: Adaptive Camouflage 8 Mimetic skin 2 Size: small X0.25 Cost: 5N Upkeep: 2N
>>34383454>Order is fine as is.>90 Thinkers>90 Quantum thinkers>100 Warriors>15 Shock troops>>34383498Yea, it feels like running a cattle auction.I think that's all for tonight. At your current rate of research you should be done by next thread. I'll try to stick around until we 404 as always for any questions or comments, but feel free to leave feedback on the Ask.fm or twitter any time.
>>34383557you do know, there are 11 pages now right?
>>34383557We're really overdue for researching human diets and adding the ravenous prisoners to our hive upkeep.
>>34383454Could we please lay a few more collusi? We only have two and they really are a huge advantage on an open battlefield.
Fake Queen (modify it's cosmetics to make it look important and maybe give them all different markings that pass on to the drones they make all to give the illusion of them being from differnt hives with the markings serving to indicating the hive there from.) Olfactory: Basic 0 Acoustic: Advanced 2 Psionic: Advanced: (200N 250M) Radio: basic 1 Mandible: ??? (construction maybe) Blade: combat 1 Arms: Dex 1 Legs: Endurance 1 Wings: Moderate 2 Utility:Acid glands 1N Egg Sac: 100N Carapace: ??? (Basic maybe) Size: Medium Cost: 309N + ???N & 250M & ??? M Upkeep:
>>34383557I was wondering earlier why hydrogen refueling was a thing in the Union colony since they don't require fuel for FTL, and have an infinite energy engine...but, duh. It's for the fighter craft that are non FTL, and that are aboard and deployed from FTL ships, right?
>>34383557>>34383578We do need to diversify our farming crops. Not just for us, but our prisoners as well.
>>34383593>Mandible: ??? (construction maybe)No, Combat. I think earlier in the thread it was mentioned the queen has combat mandibles.As is sensible, with the dangers of finding a place to lay.
>>34383557We really need more heavy artillery though. 4 more collossi should to the trick but oh wellThanks for the thread anyway QD, you make Sundays/Mondays fun.
>>34383576I only see one thread on it and it has seemed to be a little fickle to me.>>34383585That they are. It didn't seem to have that much support at the time, but a quick vote wound't hurt while we are all still here.>Add Colossi to order>Don't>Postpone vote for start of next thread>>34383623Always a pleasure.
>>34383603No we don't. We're just gonna synthesize the calories, amino acids and minerals they require from our current food stock.We aren't about to start farming native human photosynthetic life here on Planet Silent Hill, so we're obviously gonna have to derive it synthetically.
>>34383593Queens don't have advanced psionic.
>>34383613But, the queen stopped that thinker from bleeding to death with her saliva. Sounds more like the construction to me.
>>34383640>Add Colossi to order
>>34383640Add Collossi. Uh. 8 of them.
>>34383640Add the Colossi
>>34383640>Add Colossi to orderSure, why not.
>>34383640>>Add Colossi to order
>>34383648I think they know that. That's why it's a fake queen.The advanced relay is there so it doubles as the single point of failure through which we control that planet's hive.Personally I'd hide that relay somewhere else and just stick the giant headdress on the fake.
>>34383640>>Add Colossi to order (5)Thanks for the vote, Quest, 'preciate it.
>>34383684We can do both. That way if they kill the "queen" we can still control the hive.
>>34383640>Add colossi to order>90 Thinkers>90 Quantum thinkers>100 Warriors>15 Shock troops>4 Colossi>>34383645It isn't that hard actually, since you process all of your food into a nutrient paste anyways. It would just be a change in the ingredients.
>>34383716That's the point of not having a relay on the queen at all. There's no purpose to having it on her.
>>34382946You're right, I'm getting hungry too.
>>34383640Add them to the order.
>34379408>After several hours of steady acceleration it vanishes with a wink of radiationWait, it takes that long to go to warp?I guess the USV Hope really wasn't in any danger of escaping us.>34380378>You note that Union vessels seem to emit much more radiation than your own when exiting FTL.Subtly reminding us that we can't bring the Clarke back into the system without drawing a lot of attention.Also, the satellite is still transmitting even though it's in their hangar now, right?
We're going to need a second speaker soon, might as well just lay it now
>>34383783The Dauntless appears to be very slow. By far the worst rate of acceleration you have seen in a Union ship so far. By comparison the Hope was comparable to the Clarke, which was impressive in speed even the Theseus.
>>34383797Oh yea, we do don't we.>>34383720I've noticed that the Linear Particle Beam appears to be better in every way than the Autocannon as a point defense weapon.It has higher range, higher accuracy, and higher damage. So it's even better at detonating a nuclear warhead before it gets anywhere near the ship.Is there any disadvantage I'm missing here?
>>34383783And no, the satellite has stopped transmitting shortly after being taken into the Dauntless.
>>34383873They're hella bulky and don't miniaturize well. The listed stats assume a certain size of mounting.Autocannons also get that accuracy bonus against small stuff.
>>34383873Technically yes, but autocannons receive a bonus to targeting smaller craft or missiles, especially with explosive ammunition, while Particle beams suffer a large penalty if used in a such a small weapon mount. It would still be effective, though.
>>34383912How many plasma lances does it take to cook a Union corvette in a few seconds if fired all at once?
>>34383593fake queens should probably be explosive. like, crater blasting explosive.
>>34383731I think having the relays in space on clocked pods is good But, I'd like to have a back up just in case. Though with the way we've been making are ship's that isn't a problem.
>>34383934Of course it would depend on the situation, but assuming decent rolls and a surprise attack, probably around three or four corvettes with Lances would be able to take out a Union Corvette without giving it enough time to react.
>>34383989You didn't answer last week, but.You say the Taidarens are experts on all the things inside and around the Angel.Does that include Lyle's cybernetics?
>>34383950once we have nuclear tech down, we could give them an implanted thermonuclear warhead that detonates upon death/command.
>>34383989So what did the completed research open up?
>>34384106Oh yeah, the local ecology thing.>Extended nature studyWe at least have a catalog of the local species.Did we find another apex predator, or is its reproductive cycle still in the spore budding stage?
>>34384027Ah, I think we dropped off the board as I was trying to type that.They understand the engineering aspect, but not the medical aspect. They can take care of the machine part, but don't understand how it attaches to the body, how to implant them, or how to maintain the implants themselves, all of which would technically fall under personal hygiene, which Taidarens also know little about.Same with the tanks. They know how to work them and which buttons to press for what, but have no idea what exactly it does or how it works beyond which wires go where. They are crafty electricians and great engineers, capable of jury rigging something from just about any pile of junk, but they don't know anything about medical technology beyond the very basics.>>343841063 new potential toxins, which I will add for next thread, the worm samples, which I will also try to have ready by next thread.>>34384136Locally the centipede is the apex predator of the jungle, while the flyer rules the open plains, plucking up anything it can fit in its gaping maw that is unlucky enough to be out in the open. They usually prey on berry birds and other flying creatures from the jungle, but will also follow the herd beetles and prey on the animals that inhabit their backs and feed on the moss and fungi that tend to grow from the beetles' carapaces.
I was thinking, if we do explore the ocean, we could create an underground tunnel to the bay so the eventual drones-with-fins-for-swimming we get don't have to flop over land to the beach.
>>34384264Kinda like a moon pool?
>>34384183I don't remember where we came across the centipede. What are it's defining attributes again?
>>34384183Hey could you take the drone designs proposed this thread and place them in the unofficial design portion of the drone sheet?
>>34384305I believe it was the first few threads, actually. It was what attacked Lee and his crew mate when you first found him.
>>34384305BlindNo true brainCan sense electrical currentsHostile
fuck page 11.i'm sure i'm forgetting something.
>>34384344How feasible and useful for stealth is it to dismantle the docking pylon and everything else noticeable?
>>34384402You can always feel free to contact me on twitter or leave questions or feedback in the ask.fm any time.
>>34384433You may want to remove Crab dissection from the research list.
>>34384431Depends on the time frame you are looking for. It would certainly take more than a day to tear down the pylon, cover the foundation and make it look like natural landscape again, as well as covering the hangar doors in the side of the hive.
>34381721>What about the gravitational scan?">"Nothing, sir. The Dauntless says the planet is clean."Looking for the Clarke and the gravity of its quantum power tap? Or a Unity ship somehow within the atmosphere.
>>34377042>Outside the drumming has become louder and more frequent. The small village at the mouth of the cave entrance has swollen to a far greater population than before, and it loud howling and bellowing from the hollow trees echo through the valley.Heh, it's like someone saw the Virgin Mary and the rumor spread and brought pilgrims looking for another glimpse.Or like seeing an alien or UFO. Which I guess is also literal in this case.
>>34384294https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_poolYeah basically. Though I imagined it as a sloping cave at first, with half of it above water.