Would you prefer it if Elves typically had Aztec influences in fantasy?
I'd prefer it if Orks did, though Trolls in WoW were of that flavour and always fun.
>>33914630What difference does it make?
>>33914630Nah, Aztecs had an interesting aesthetic but were a deeply flawed and insustainable society. They were tearing themselves apart long before the Europeans showed up and sealed the deal. Elves based off of the Aztecs would be dumb because it is the exact opposite of what a society of functional immortals would need to thrive.
>>33914686WoW trolls were more of a Not*Voodoo flavor
Fuck no.Elves have nothing to do with south america, you want to give something a south american theme look for something from south america
GOD DAMN LOOK AT THEM TITTIES
>>33914760The Darkspears yes, but Zul'Aman, Zul'Gurub to an extent was very Aztec/ Incan.The civilized Trolls were Voodoo, while the uncivilized were clearly into Gods and Snackrifices.
>>33914630I would prefer that aztecs existed in fantasy in first place. Also you if you are taking a human culture why dont you just put them in the game? Why they have to be elves you lazy fuck?
>>33914630I'd love it if they were aesthetically, but otherwise no.
>>33914767COULDN'T AGREE MORE!
>Mesoamerican>White skin, pale green eyes and bleached blonde hairAND ONTO THE ALTAR IT GOES
>>33914759Elves based off of Aztecs could be considered "refined aztecs" less infighting, but they still have the occasional ritual sacrifice.
>>33914851I like the picture, but I have to admit I laughed.
>>33914630No. The Americas suck ass.Europe, Asia, North Africa strong.
>>33914767Yes like futa skeletons with rattlesnake penises
>>33914940I am sure somewhere on here, that is someone's fetish.
>>33914630I have this homebrew race which is basically feral elves with aztec flavors. Don't steal my ideas.
>>33914831>I would prefer that aztecs existed in fantasy in first place.There's Lizardmen.
Yes, but only it includes Orc Conquistadors.
>>33914902Yes, Elves living in their city in the center of a lake, protecting the forest and sacrificing every stranger that go through it. They used mainly blowpipe with sting/arrow coated with sleeping drug.
>>33914630What type of Magic would Aztec Elves use? Blood Magic?
>>33915000I have this too.Mine came first. Literally, they were the first powerful civilization, the precursors. Their technology, or what remains of it, still baffles the top technomancers today.But there was a cataclysm of their own making, and their civilization disappeared overnight - leaving only despair and faint traces of their past.Feral, brown-skinned elves, known for sharpening their teeth into fangs and piercing their thin skin with thick thorns and bones, still roam the jungles that hide the ruins of this precursor civilization, guarding the ancient past.
>>33915195Okay, mine are feral, brown-skinned elves with natural fangs and claws at their fingers and toes, who like to throw fireballs around and ride dragons into battle. They formed the second-biggest empire in my setting. Their name (Jagárhí) derives from the words "caghy" and "ghrhály", which translates to "the very old ones", which hints at the fact that their civilization has very ancient, yet commonly unknown, roots.
>>33914630I like the dynamic of Elves right now.High, Wood, and Dark.Having a fourth that are Aztec, Mayan, Incan, would be a good addition.
>>33915399Should do more than just "elves but with stereotype/typical interpretations of Mayans"
>>33914759This is how I Aztec elf
>>33915399>High, Wood, and Dark.That's Warhammer, ain't it? There's also Night Elves, which are basically between Wood and Dark Elves, and Feral Elves, which are the more wild, chaotic, badass version of the Wood Elves. And Blood Elves, in case you need some evil High Elves
>>33915450Agreed, but I don't know what else. Open to ideas.Call 'em 'Low Elves'. Shorter life spans, about 1/2 or 1/3 of what classic Elves have. Maybe have them more War-like, with a focus on offensive Blood Magic or something? >>33915467Tolkien also had Dark Elves, but they went extinct in a war against the Balrogs. High Elves there are from Rivendell, Wood Elves are from Murkwood where Legolas is from.
>>33915000Me too, except they're equal parts beast and tree at the end of their lives they go either full beastfolk or full treefolk depending on how they lived their lives.They're still all about not much clothes and trying to feed their goddess the blood of their defeated foes, though.
>>33915467Dont forget snow elves, sea elves, frost elves, coral elves, island elves, bone marrow elves, christmas elves, keebler elves, hentai elves, and bearded blue space elves.Or you could just make elves have different cultures instead of making 9001 different varieties of the little fuckers.
>>33915509Call them Sun Elves or Blood Elves and have them have a shorter natural lifespan, but their Sun Priests have learned how to extend their years via blood sacrifices and sun magicks.
>>33914630I've seen it done, our current setting is fantasy Europe is colonizing NotSouthAmerica so we got Aztec themed elves, and Aztec themed dwarves, and Spanish elves. We don't really do the each race gets a nation thing, though I have noticed there seems to be very few elves native to notsouthamerica>>33914793She gets them from constant human sacrifices to the titty godOh look, you're a human...>>33915059Yeah, reptilian races make up the majority of our setting's NotSouthAmerica
>>33915616Could work. Favor melee combat over ranged, entirely different pantheon of Gods, separating them further from other Elves.
>>33915658Jokes on you, I'm a dog.
>>33915577Speciation, Elves are more ancien than men so if a population is isolated from the other for enough time, it will start to become an other species
>>33915129>Blood Magic?Sounds awesome. Doesn't have to be slaughter only, can be highly ritualistic where the blood sacrificed is honoured deeply.
>>33915792Oh, they will just eat you then.
>>33915792The Aztecs ate dogs...
I'd prefer it if every civilization on the globe had Elves around the corner and lived in various states of harmony with them.
>>33915952So basically there's a huge Elf diaspora?
>>33915814>where the blood sacrificed is honoured deeply.unless they're Orks.
>>33915977Yeah, if you want.*cue /pol/ jokes*
>>33915952>lived in various states of harmony with themThere is only one way everyone would live in harmony with elves...So that means a world full of shota and MILF elves?Sure, I'll go for that
>>33914630I want them to be more alien. Why use them as Not aztec if I can do it with humans anyway.
>>33916027>Why use them as Not aztec if I can do it with humans anyway.Because humans are boring, and elves make everything more interesting, and sexier.
>>33916027>>33916061To me, an ideal setting has one culture per race. Races divided into more than one nation should be a rare occurence. Having non-German, non-Japanese, non-Arabic humans etc. makes the fantasy races obsolete in my book.
>>33915997All blood should be valued equally since it is a gift to the gods. You wouldn't honour the gods and ask for rain, good harvest, fertility, knowledge and prosperity by giving them an offering that is shit tier?Furthermore the ones being offered, ei bleed dry and/or sacrificed should be equally highly valued, honoured and taken care of no matter their race since they are basically enabling a direct hotline to the Gods.Hell if they don't respect and hate orcs then one might expect that the last thing they would do would be to offer their blood to the gods since they would be vermin to be exterminated without being given such an 'honour'.
>>33916198Orc blood would be used during ceremonies for war; blessing weapons, armor, praying for good fortune in battle.Elven Blood would be used for domestic rituals. Better harvests, protection from disease, things like that.Human blood would be used for fertility rituals and rituals involving adapting to a new environment. The list can go on.
>>33916251Would small villages be sacrificing livestock instead whilst the massive sacrifices of sentient beings take place in the cities?
Rolled 38>>33916434I wouldn't think so. The amounts would be very different. A small village would sacrifice one, two, or maybe even three humans; while in the capital hundreds would be sacrificed.Live stock would be for smaller things like marriages, personal and familial rituals.
>>33916434Aztecs used scarification to give gods blood, so small village could do mainly that, with the occasional sentient being sacrifice from time to time.
>>33916598Were Aztecs the edgiest civilization in history?
>>33915577I like to imagine that cultural differentiation causes them to evolve rapidly
>>33916624They had an entire order of priests that wore rotting, flayed human skins in devotion to the Flayed God. Do you really need an answer to that question? The Flayed God was also a god of agriculture and life.
>>33916251>Human blood would be used for fertility rituals and rituals involving adapting to a new environment. wat? Why would Elves use human blood rather than elven blood for fertility, and why would Elves need a ritual to adapt to new enviroments. IIRC adapting to environments are one of the things Elves do best.
>>33916708Am i a bad man if i think the spainards did the right thing when they crushed the Azteks?
>>33914959if this was drawn in an anime style, I would fap to it
>>33916828Humans fuck everything.And they're everywhere.
>>33916828You're thinking of Humans. Humans are the adaptors.
>>33916882Humans adapt the enviroment to suit their needs.
>>33916910This. Elves adapt to their environment, humans adapt the environment to them. There's a strong difference. >>33916869Humans are a officially a species of whores.
>>33916624The sacrifices for Tlaloc, the god of water and rain,were children who were drowned and they had to cry.
>>33916860The spaniards weren't that much better.
>>33916860>"Arrow sacrifice" was another method used by the worshipers of Xipe Totec. The sacrificial victim was bound spread-eagle to a wooden frame, he was then shot with many arrows so that his blood spilled onto the ground. The spilling of the victim's blood to the ground was symbolic of the desired abundant rainfall, with a hopeful result of plentiful crops. After the victim was shot with the arrows, the heart was removed with a stone knife. The flayer then made a laceration from the lower head to the heels and removed the skin in one piece. These ceremonies went on for twenty days, meanwhile the votaries of the god wore the skins.>The worshipers of Xipe Totec emerging from the rotting, flayed skin after twenty days symbolized rebirth and the renewal of the seasons, the casting off of the old and the growth of new vegetation. New vegetation was represented by putting on the new skin of a flayed captive because it symbolized the vegetation the earth puts on when the rain comes. The living god lay concealed underneath the superficial veneer of death, ready to burst forth like a germinating seed. The flayed skins were believed to have curative properties when touched and mothers took their children to touch such skins in order to relieve their ailments.
>>33916860The Spaniards weren't exactly saints either. All cultures have something evil about them.
>>33917066So they fed a few natives to dogs, hue DeSoto hue. Even that and wide-spread enslavement weren't much compared to shit like >>33917061.They might've been vicious conquerors, but their priests weren't wearing the skins of their fallen foes.
>>33917061This is why I think Elven Aztecs would be awesome. All the edgy stuff, but with actual arcane magic backing it up. Not to mention there's something nice about a mix between elven beauty with aztec savagery.
>>33917066eh the spaniards may not been nice guys but honestly can you imagion what south america be like if those guys were still around in the 17th century?
>>33917066The kind of monstrous shit the Aztecs did seems quite impressive compared to the most depraved shit the Spaniards did. Sure, they burned live people, but Aztecs had refined the thing to a whole new level. And these were regular things.
>>33917101>but their priests weren't wearing the skins of their fallen foes.>implying this isn't badass>implying you wouldn't do this if you lived in such a time.
>>33917141>implying I'm a Kabbalite
>>33917116How do you keep from being like the dark eldar?
>>33917155>>33917116Actually, this is a pretty good point. Aztec Elves would really just be what happens if you took Dark Eldar instead of Dark Elves and put them in Lustria.
Is it really an elf at that point? Or, rather, why bother labeling it an elf?Elves are beings of Germanic myth that were further adapted by Tolkien. Once you stray so far from the source, is it really the same thing? At what point do you stop saying "Well my elves are x and y and z" and start saying "My setting has a race, A, that is x and y and z"?
>>33917178Maybe they could be a ordered and highly developed society (in comparison to others) but that on certain specific dates practice institutionalized human sacrifice of the bloodiest kind before going back home and preparing for another day at the fields instead of being anarchy like the dark eldar.
>>33917123Despite the sacrifice Aztec had school for everyone, slavery wasn't something atrocious, Tenochtitlan was bigger, cleaner and have most population than most european city. The Spaniards were also surprised that the Aztecs bathed once or twice a day. And people seems to forget that human sacrifice were widespread in all Cental and South-American civilizations,the Aztecs were the guys that used them the most, but Olmecs,Mayas and even Incas did them.
>>33914630Not necessarily TYPICALLY, but I would really enjoy it in at least one setting.
>>33917241Welcome to evolution.
>>33917241You make a good point. Still, stock elves are a convenient starting point for a race that's in touch with nature.
>>33917323That's like saying, "My setting has wolves but different. They have floppy ears and curly tails, and they don't really howl at the moon. In fact, they're really cooperative with humans, unlike most interpretations of wolves, and can even be taught to hunt or guard for their human companions."That's a dog, not a wolf. Why call it a wolf?
>>33917241Elves are pretty pointy eared humans.
>>33917241Because then you need too make up a good name for them that can easily be remembered
>>33914630Wouldn't mind a world with Notaztec elves.Up the cannibalism and sacrificies.Hunt humans who harm their jungles.
>>33917403The original Tarasque looks like that and has nearly nothing to do with D&D Tarasque. Thing change, that's all.
>>33917178Just not have them be as torture/slave happy as them. Also have much less backstabbing, and body modification. With the exception of piercings and tattoos of course.
>>33917241I consider generic/stock elves to be a blank canvas. You can take them, and simply add a bunch of stuff to make them different.
>>33917267I love just about everything about meso-american civilizations, but you can't really say Aztecs and several others in the area were not atrocious civilizations. They engaged in ritual wars in which the goal was to make prisonners for the next round of sacrifices (as in wars just for the sake of it), they sacrificed men, women and children for blood-hungry gods, decorated their temples with walls of skulls that put GW's design to shame, had ritual basketball with death sentence at the end. Sure they had some good things, but you know what they say, under Mussolini, trains ran on time. I'm not sure higher hygiene and widespread education can be used to compensate the live evisceration of people.This goes for Aztecs but also for all other civilizations. Celts invented soaps and also sacrificed people from time to time. The Romans put an end to that shit and that was good, even if it meant mandatory conscription.
>>33917705Didn't they do it to stop the world ending prematurely?
>>33917267There's good and bad in every culture. Sure the Aztecs had the occasional human sacrifice/torture, but they were cleaner the europeans, and they had schools. Not to mention their gods, and decor was pretty awesome.
>>33917101Can you really argue that establishing new global avenues of the slave trade, eradicating cultures and spreading disease were really that much better than human sacrifice? Like how can you actually say which is worse? Both were terrible.
>>33917241Elves are pointy eared humans that are either lithe and cold-hearted bitches who break on contact with dick, or pleasantly plump sluts who break on sight of dick.
>>33917768>>33917738Also This. Even if they were wrong their torture, and wars they were pretty much done with good intentions somewhat.
>>33917738Aztec culture is fairly neutral when it comes down to it. God damn this thread is really making me wish Notaztecelves were a common thing.
>>33917815They were also conducted under threat of real war.Either give us sacrifices in ritualistic combat or we will kick in your teeth, take everyone, and then sacrifice them anyway.
>>33917738Of course they had good reasons. Everyone always acts with good reasons. Nobody acts just for the lulz, everyone wants to better the world. The inquisition wanted to make humanity pure to save it in the eyes of god, every crusade, jihad and world war was done to make the world better and cleanse it from some evil/make it a better place to live/bring a better order to those in the shadow. A civilization is always right in its own eyes.
>>33917774>new global avenues of the slave tradeBit early, son. Spaniards weren't really big on slavery at that point, and use of natives to world sugar plantations were really the origins of t he slave trade. The weakness of body and ease with which natives escaped lead them to using heartier stock that weren't familiar with the local area, beginning the slave trade in earnest. They were discovering the new World for riches and glory, not because they heard slavery was real jammin'.>eradicating culturesA culture of blood-thirsty fanatics who wages wars whose entire point was capturing men, women, and children for torture and blood sacrifice. Gotta say, we really lost a gem there.>spreading diseaseAztecs did the same right back. Are you actual arguing that a society that had no knowledge of germs intentionally waged biological warfare? More applicable in North America with smallpox blankets, but both sides took heavy loses from bizarre foreign diseases.
>>33917815As I just said here: >>33917928Everyone thinks he's doing the right thing. Even Hitler thought he'd make the world better by relieving the best people from the scum corrupting it. The British who spread disease on purpose in North America were convinced making the land a political dominion of a christian nation instead of a backwater shithole populated by half-best savages was a noble thing. Good intentions don't mean anything because when you get down to it, event he most heinous things are done with good intentions.
>>33917705Europeans weren't better,just compare the death made by Europeans wars and conquest with the Aztecs sacrifice. The Aztec areseen as atrocious because they ritualize death, European didn't, that don't means they weren't as bloodthirsty. Western Europe is at peace only since the end of WW2, before that they spend most of their time killing each other.
>>33917178They'd be more colorful for one. Instead of Black, and Pale/White everywhere. Plus while they would have ritualized torture/sacrifice they wouldn't be AS torture happy as Dark Eldar. Plus I assume they would be significantly less depraved.
>>33917996Europeans were fucking shit up all they could, I'm not disputing that.Now then, if you want to compare, since we can't say war is less "bad" than sacrifice, we can just count score and see that at the times, Europeans were doing war but no sacrifice, and americans were doing both. Right there I'd say there's a point to be given to the Europeans.
>>33918090I think the ritual wars took less lives the European Wars. But that might not be your metric.Are you saying ritual human sacrifice is somehow worse than straight up murder?
>>33917768>Not to mention their gods, and decor was pretty awesome.Nobody can dispute that, and whether you approve of their civilization or not, nobody can deny the cool factor of the Aztecs. Also, awesome names.
>>33918135>is torture and then murder worse than just murder?Hm, getting gutted on a battlefield or being flayed alive?
>>33917241Honestly, all this random bloodletting, child slaughter, and cannibalism is closet to OG elves/fae than Tolkien ever was. I do agree with your sentiment, though.
>>33918135Ritual wars I'd rank as far worse than normal wars by the fact they are absolutely useless in the great scheme of things. A ritual war is literally a war to get people to kill. It serves no purpose other than feeding the beast.>Are you saying ritual human sacrifice is somehow worse than straight up murder?I'm not. I don't have an opinion on this.
>>33918142I wish more buildings were like this.. >>33918164More like >is torture, and murder better than mass murder
>>33918205Why the fuck did humans stop building pyramids...And using actual stones...
>>33914848That is...frightening and awesome.
>>33917267>Spaniards were also surprised that the Aztecs bathed once or twice a day.>mfw Aztecs covered them in incense because they couldn't stand their BOimo Aztecs fit Elves very well at least in that regard
>>33914630Only if they get their immortality through eating the hearts of their subjects. Immortal elves suck. Immortal blooding eating God-Kings are great.
>>33918205War in the medieval period bewteen christians didn't mean mass murder brah. SIeges and stuff mostly, and if the city surrendered they normally didn't pillage it, or raped the women and that stuff.
>>33914630I'd prefer it if elves were nudists.
>>33918164>aliveNo, they were killed first then flayed. You know most of the time the sacrificed were anesthetized with alcohol or by dancing during a lot of time. Some even lived the life of a god before dying. Better than agonizing on a battlefield because a guy wanted the clay of another.
>>33918309>Only if they get their immortality through eating the hearts of their subjects. That would be a pretty awesome explanation for the why elves are immortal thing.
>>33918313And in Spain between Muslims and Christians was pretty much the same, but with more raids in the frontiers.
>>33916882Any sapient tool-using species would do that. It's an oxymoron to say that much, really.
>>33916955>Humans are a officially a species of whores.I always saw humans as the trunk of the Humanoid treed, with other subspecies branching off. Inability to breed with humans would represent how far you are from the trunk with sterile crossbreeds being in the middle.
This thread...>War is murderWar is something extremely complex, structured and far-reaching in all its forms. Saying war is murder because people kill each other is complete pleb-tier dumbfuckery, just like human sacrifice, war and cannibalism are fundamentally different acts with only the common part of men killing other men.
>>33914630>Aztec Elves>Not Wild Viking Elves with Glorious Beards
>>33918483Yeah but they're to weedy to hold an axe. And if you make them brawny and bearded they're more dwarves then elves. Not that those too things can't just be synonyms.
>>33917985> that a society that had no knowledge of germs intentionally waged biological warfare?The black death started because of biological warfare.
>>33918402One of these days I'm going to write up a whole species tree, along with accompanying scientific annotations, for a Arcainum style campaign.
>>33918505>Too weedy to wield an axe.Tell that to the Noldor or Sindar.
>>33918505>Not using scandanavian legends to influence your elves/dorfs
>>33918605The original Elfs straight from Tolkieen. The Sindar were the equivalent of the civilized wood elfs, the Noldor were the forgers, smiths and jewelers of the Elves, the ones than did deeds than not even the gods could equal. And were the most badass too.
>>33918683Bleh. Tolkien/10 would not read.
>>33918616Frankly I find that scandinavian mythology is one of the least interesting.
>>33918724Your choice brah.>>33918750Probably because you are over exposed to it, since they monsters, gods and stuff are in lot's of games, comics and animes.
>>33915129No, not blood magic.Sun magic.I mean, it's to the degree where the Aztec cut out the heart because it was seen as a shard of the Sun God, and by offering it they would keep the Sun in the air that much longer.
well time for aztec pictures.
Question: Who is more fuckable, elven women or elven men?
>>33918887Depends on the setting's elves. On one end you're fucking a trap.On another you're being fucked by a bear, literal or other wise.
>>33918887>implying you could tell the difference
>>33916869Patently false as there are a myriad of other species out there that breed just as much, if not more than Humans.The only reason Humans are so... Err, bountiful in your average fantasy setting is because, you guessed it, the vast majority of people who play in those settings are Humans.That's also why Humans can breed with so many other races; it's to let players marry their Elven waifu and have cute little babies, or simultaneously make Orcs more monstrous and let people "play" one by having the union of a male Orc and female Human produce kids.
>>33918916Kill it with fire!
I'd prefer if elves were treated as slaves and sexual holes for all other races with no rights and overall contempt from all other races.It is one of the few things Dragon's Age did right.
Guys. What if...>Aztec Dark ElvesWould that work better?
>>33918483>vikings>not the most overused generic culture in fantasyI'm sorry but I'd rather take colorful full lipped female elves with magic, jungles, blood sacrifice, and feathered dragons rather than have more generic Valkyries, and Thor#99782, and a generic snowy landscape.
>>33918750>>33918977Exactly how I feel.
>>33918976Eberron has it.
>>33914630Aztec Elves would be great.
>>33918976Nah. Then things will just be too edgy. I would want Aztec elves to be the neutral species/society. Not balls out evil.
>>33918977>Muh generic fantasyEverything becomes generic sooner or later, even your talking original weird cephalic hive mind technocratic bug people.
>>33918916Absolutely disgusting, and anyone who has it as a waifu must be purged.
>>33914630Aztec influences would be wasted on Elves. It could be used so much better on other races.Like Halflings.Or even Kender.>Oh sorry mister, I have no idea how your heart ended up in my pocket, I thought you wanted to offer it to gods as a sacred testament to your honor.
>>33918778Yes, but it also lack a little something. Their gods aren't as assholish as the Greek one, aren'ts as recognizable as the Egyptian one, aren't as exotic as the Aztecs one, don't have as much arms as the Indian one etc...Scandinavian mythology is "guys with beard doing stuff while waiting for the ragnarok"
>>33919043>Dark Elves are/have to be evil in all settings.
>>33914630>if Elves typically had Aztec influences in fantasy?Hows it feel being retarded?
>>33919055>Everything becomes generic sooner or laterfairy point. But if someone showed me viking elves I'm not gonna lie, I'd fairly uninterested unless they did something unique with it.
>>33919077Yeah I know. But when anon said Dark Elves I couldn't help but automatically think of Dark Eldar, and Warhammer Fantasy elves. >>33919082>fairy point*fair point sorry
>>33918483> not having both as well as orcish, halfling, warforged, etc variants for both Relegating a species to one culture is one of the most frustrating things about Fantasy for me. Scifi does it too, but not nearly as often.
>>33919082>Viking Elves that live in giant snowman fortresses with wind weapons to fight sun demons that want to melt the world.
>>33918505> Vikings never used swords ever!Leave it to a dorfwanker to be completely fucking retarded.
I prefer the Dwarf Fortress elves.Defenders of nature, they get upset if you cut down too many trees. They harvest wood from trees naturally fallen, and are vegetarians for the most part; however, if you fall in battle before them, they will eat you.
>>33919077Is it strange I'd fuck dark elves in any setting over regular elves in any setting?
>>33919153Dark Elves tend to be more interesting so long as they are not the typical edgefest like drow.
>>33919055>talking original weird cephalic hive mind technocratic bug people.Mindflayers and/or Thri-Kreen
>>33919173I'd fuck those too. Dark elves are best elves.
why not mochica elfs?
>>33919191>Sentient bacteria clustered into worm colonies that yield communist ideals.
>>33919212I don't know enough about the mochica
>>33919153you just have a grey skin fetish
>>33919229Orks. Blood Axes, to be exact.Or Worm-That-Walks
>>33919212Most people only know about Aztecs, Mayas and Incas.
>>33919266Is this dude black, wearing a gimp suit, or is doing an extreme black face impersonation?
>>33919077>>33919173Once when bored I worked on a setting that had drow as one of the regular races. It was inspired by Eilistraee. You see she favors her clergy to be naked and practice with the sword (specifically the bastard sword.) So I made the Drow into a sort of barbarian culture. they're still dark skinned elves with white hair wearing skimpy usually leather outfits. Only in this case they're more on the neutral to good side.
>>33919313>It was inspired by Eilistraee.Prefaced nothing good ever.
>>33919269grey dick is best dick
>>33919307Its representing the god of trade.
>>33915616I like Sun Elves. Lots of fire based things and generally bright imagery and iconography. Not depressing sort of people. large ham with their behavior or at least notable figures?
>>33916626At first I thought this was parody.Then I realized it was merely allegory.
>>33919363For Africans and aboriginals?
>>33914630Looks 3/4ths white.0/10 not historically accurate. Amerindians are ugly as FUCK.
>>33919554> elves> historicalMust suck having autism
>>33919626Gonna make aztec elves, make them LOOK like aztecs, not just white people with face paint instead of the ugly motherfuckers they actually were/are.
>>33919650Native Americans were considered hella beautiful by the Euros, idiot. Barbaric, sure, but pretty as all get out.Besides, the blond hair makes perfect sense for a race that believes itself to be shards of the sun. Maybe they ritualistically bleach that shit, or it turns blonde with enough sacrifices/magical prowess.
>>33919554Hey buddy you're no adonis
>>33919650confirmed for no tasteas anon said euros considered native americans to be really beautiful.
>>33919744Some were considered beautiful, like the Tainos, other like the Caribs were considered uglies and specially foul. It varied a lot from tribe to tribe.
>>33919843>Some were considered beautiful, like the Tainos, other like the Caribs were considered uglies and specially foul. It varied a lot from tribe to tribeJust like europeans
>>33919356>Conch boxing glovesAztech shit is intense.
>>33914759The aztec system might actually make sense in the context of functional immortality. The bounty of the jungle is limited, and the ritual sacrifices/warfare are a way to cull populations before they get too big.
I give my Elves South East Asian flavor. Not Japan, Japan is more dwarves on an island (honor, mining, etc, but with more poetry). High elves end up as China (near immortality and lots of food=lots of kids) with a druidic society, and constantly warring within itself because of ancient grudges. Wild elves are compared to Java, Vietnam, Thailand, and the Philippines. Specifically Vietnam because the language was the easiest for me to pronounce and acting is important. I put drow as the hated matriarch race, and still a theocracy, but less evil. Instead, they're based to be more middle eastern, Israeli, mostly. They had the most technology in the world, equaled by some dwarves (who they traded with and researched with, also the same religion). Elves, because of all the subraces, are constantly fighting wars over either race, land, or religion.
>>33920282Pic related, it's what the header was while posting this.
>>33920282>japan ewI like the Chinese High elves thing though.
>>33918887Depends, are the women MILFs? (or amazons) and are the men shotas?If yes to either than that one, if yes (or no) to both then I have no idea
>>33920318It's why I didn't include them in the map I had for the world. Japan as a history is MUCH too complex to really reproduce.Not complex in a good way either, like Chinese politics. Like very large things in Japanese culture revolve around very small things. Kimonos, for instance, were made with Chinese silk. Silk doesn't grow on such small islands in that climate. So if you want a feudal Japanese culture, it has to be near a friendly silk country.The feudal system only really happened because of peasant uprisings. Samurai would have less a focus on honor and more on glory if they're near a "christian" religion rather than traditional Shintoism and Buddhism.You don't try to make a believable work out of that. Too many variables to fuck up. I prefer to just leave them out unless the setting actually takes place in feudal Japan (which I refuse to do, because that game would be all politics and mass battles and generally really boring. Didn't add "-san" to that general's name? War. Didn't invite him to a private tea ceremony? War. Sake not warm enough? War. Also weaboo friend who won't do shit like that if it's European).
>>33919353/tg/: Everything leads back to homosexuality
>>33915952So you want the elves to be modeled after jews?
>>33920754/tg/: Everyone is gay, especially the straight ones
>>33914630>Mexican half elves>>33920515So they won't mind if we turn their forest into a giant parking lot and shopping center?I wonder how they'll adapt to that.
>>33921448City elves. With neon eyes and asphalt skin, they make you check the locks again.
>>33919043>I would want Aztec elves to be the neutral species/society. Not balls out evil.The Aztec were literally evil by Mesoamerican standards.
>>33921502>With neon eyes and asphalt skin11/10 would get mugged, shanked, and gangraped by
>>33921860It would be like getting mugged by a cat.Maybe catgirls are city elves
>>33921502>neon eyesThat would be so fucking pretty, like a person with electroluminescent contacts.Fuck, someone should make those.
>>33921988I remember one thread where anons discussed all those nature spirits and fae types residing in cities now. Shit like city nymphs and alley dryads and whatnot.
>>33918426>being this pleb
>>33921988Sounds cool but I'd be worried about burning or irritating my eyes.
>>33922049>Shit like city nymphs and alley dryads and whatnot.he was probably high and hired some street walkers
>>33922049>alley dryads>#1 pot dealers in the world>>33922068Would probably put an opaque backing and polarized middle to prevent it from coming back into the eyes.
>>33922049>group of city nymphs try to seduce you with inner city slang
>>33921988Why not neon hair?Like shit, stuff that *flows* when it flows, you know? Leaves a straight up trail of color wherever they go.And maybe their eye colors are reminiscent of a traffic light: Yellow is neutral, red means shit's going down and green is everything's great (and you're in.)
>>33922137>then leave your drowned corpse in the community pool
>>33922147Cause glowy eyes is easier to reproduce than natural looking glowy hair.
>>33922179pants gone, smile on pale faceworth it, worth it SO FUCKING MUCH
>>33922068>>33922098>>33921988Those already exist. Google "glowing contacts"
>>33921448>>33922049>Mexican half elves cholos>Fae residing in the citiesWhat next, a loose cannon Paladin who always gets chewed out by Da Chief (it's his god)?
>>33922426>job goes bad, Chief takes away his badge and gun>has to join up with a local pot-dealing dryad who saw too much to bring down the cult that plans to sacrifice the city and return the world to the dark ages>This summer>the action-packed thrill ride of the year>PALADIN 2: PRAISE THE GUN
>>33922098I think they more meant dryads tied to particularly shady and death-ridden alleys due to spiritual shenanigans but that works too.
>>33922098Don't insult the dryads, their product line is extremely diverse.Pot, shrooms, salvia, just about any plant that can get you high
>>33922355Just had a fantastic idea for a theatrical thing.Say you've got an oracle or something, they seem normal most of the time but when you need them to be possessed or whatever, flick on some UV lights and make the contact lenses white over to give a cataract look.For that matter, why are there not UV adaptive contact lenses for normal usage?
>>33922355Just imagine pic related, but not as perfect looking, like with the different colors and dark spots of a normal eye, staring at you from complete darkness and a street elf, pretty but rough looking, comes up to you and mugs you.
>>33923158shit, forgot the pic
>>33914630>long straight hair>not coiled up into little horny pigtailsYOU HAD ONE JOB
>>33918142Eh, I don't find Aztecs very cool, imo. Their aesthetic and "relatively advanced savage civilization" just doesn't do it for me. But I don't think it's bad that you like Aztecs or anything. It's just not really my kind of thing!
>>33920576>Silk doesn't growYou are correct.
Glowy eyes, asphalt colored, gangster street elves? Well, I know what I'm asking for in the next smut thread.
>>33923935Nigger, if you do, make it Shadowrun related, where there's actually shit like that.
>>33924027Doesn't have to be shadowrun related, shit.Porn has any setting you want it to be man.
>>33923935With neon tracer hair.
>>33923464The Aztecs were generally regarded as morbid deviant death-obsessed weirdos by everyone else in the americas.There's a story of an abassador from another northern tribe offered one of his daughters to a priest as a peace offering. They priest graceously accepted.Later that day, the priest reappears wearing her skin, and he's all like "Thanks for the skin, dude. what? Isn't that what you DO with pretty young girls given to you?"You know Dia De Los Muertos? The creepy dead-people christmas that mexico has? Yeah, that's not just an aspect of latin american culture, or something. Only the aztecs did that, and it involved digging up corpses and propping them up at the dinner table.Day of the Dead was one of the LESS creepy things the aztecs did. It was probably their BREAK from doing creepy things.
>>33924089Still a bod-jobed Elf Bimbo with a neon fetish who just got a tripple pigment injection and a fiberoptic hair implant, getting pounded by an ork/troll ganger at gun-point would just do wonders for my dick.Only thing a bystander can see from the dark alleyway being muffled wimpers and the bobbing of neon hair and eyes.
>>33914759>You now realize that all societies fail to progress in many realms until after certain generations completely die off.>You now realize that a race of immortals would need euthanasia in order to prosper.
>>33924341What about a regular human getting mugged then raped by a glowy eyed, harsh talking street elf?
>>33914851You're thinking of the Incas. The Inca sacrificed the exotic mutations and the beautiful children. Aztecs sacrificed slaves.
>>33924176If they were a living, prominent culture today I bet they'd love guro and extremely edgy material.
>>33924397>>33924341Either works, but I'd mostly want to see this for the ridiculous slang that would be present in such smut.
>>33924501>I'd mostly want to see this for the ridiculous slang that would be present in such smut.mah nigga
>>33924439all mesoamerican cultures practiced human sacrificeamong acceptable sacrifices were slaves, warriors, the winner team of the ball game, lower nobility breed for that purpose, etc...>>33924451probably not all of them, the sacrificing and macabre side was to enforce social order through fear, making sure the ruling castes were never directly confronted
>>33924501>>33924397>>33924341Someone should do both regardlessPerhaps in that order, with the connection between them being some kind of Ulric-logic revenge in the second case.
>>33924665>probably not all of them.Lower-class people usually try to vainly ape the upper classes, often winding up being more "proper" than the upper classes (while still not managing to be "real" people like the nobles are).You'd only get resistance to death/sacrifice at the super-super-low "poor, stupid, and proud" demographic, the equivalent of chavs.Admittedly, I'm thinking of victorian english culture here, with a hideously-proper aspiring middle class and an upper crust that could be as boorish, crude, and rude as the lowest crust.
>>33919076>>don't have as much arms as the Indian oneIf there's one thing Hinduism and the Vedic texts have over everything else you mentioned, it is that it is full of very complex metaphysical philosobable set to the most over the top, balls-to-the-wall insane uberbeing mortal combat possible. Rather than having armies rain down arrows that blot out the sun, it's just one or two dudes, with the bishounen avatar of a supreme being driving your chariot at the speed of sound. Oh, and a couple of these dudes have been gifted with the capacity to fire a literal nuke made out of divine power. All of them have extremely compelling motivations for participating in the bloodshed, even if they don't wholly wish to. Oh, and there's demons who can swallow the planet, or who make clones of themselves every time a drop of their blood hits the soil. Also, the supreme being of destruction's wife is a huge fucking yandere whose willing to immolate herself to be with her man, and sometimes turns into an impressively busty, multi-armed, ebon-skinned destroyer of worlds.It's great.
>>33919843Well, part of it was that the europeans were from crowded, festering, disease-ridden places. Especially the early-contact people, who were sailors.I mean, from the native american perspective, every european was a pox-scarred gaptoothed, scrawny foul-mouthed rat-person idiot. Scurvy, childhood malnutrition, and poor personal hygene combined to make many europeans of the time, on an individual level, the ugliest and dumbest people anywhere ever.The brittish aren't particularly good-looking at the best of times.By comparison, native americans were clean, clever, and healthy.Also, I'll be honest here, I really dig native american chicks. They've got asian hair, pretty eyes, and strong jawlines.
>>33925097>I mean, from the native american perspective, every european was a pox-scarred gaptoothed, scrawny foul-mouthed rat-person idiot. Scurvy, childhood malnutrition, and poor personal hygene combined to make many europeans of the time, on an individual level, the ugliest and dumbest people anywhere ever....I don't think you have the greatest grasp on what people were like back then.>By comparison, native americans were clean, clever, and healthy.REALLY no grasp>Also, I'll be honest here, I really dig native american chicks.>They've got asian hair, pretty eyes, and strong jawlines.Aaaaah, that explains it.
>>33925097and I say this as someone who hates how idolized the closer-to-nature noble savages are. But seriously, the various native american tribes actually WERE living a pretty idyllic lifestyle. Compared to the "indigenous" people elsewhere on the planet, I mean.If only their civilization had somehow managed to invent science while also maintaining its quaint close-to-nature lifestyle.Or hadn't been wiped out by a super-plague.
>>33917241Sure they come from there, but what actual characteristics make an elf? Are those characteristics exclusive to germanic myth or Tolkien? I'd argue no, they are not.
>>33925180What, you think a press-ganged european sailor is going to be a sterling example of humanity? Especially in a time period when bathing was considered unhealthy in england?I'm talking about 15-1600s here.Hunter-gatherers tend to be either fit and healthy, or dead.Apparently, the native americans used to always ask "Why are you white guys always so worried? When we want to make fun of/quote/immitate a white guy, we just put on a worried expression.""lookng worried" was their equivalent of pulling on their eyelids to look asian.
>>33919082>viking elves>implying that elves didn't come from viking lore>svartalves
>>33924864Eastern cultures seemed to have stuck with those sort of over the top crazy things. That's probably why that flavor of supernatural and prowess is considered weaboo...
>>33921988It did this with drugged up swamp dark elves. The tree canopy above was so thick, it was always like night so bioluminesence was a common trait of plants. These same plants would be used for glow in the dark paints, used on the body. Their magic and drugs made their eyes glow crazy.
>>33925494Some people on /tg/ have a pretty skewed and overblown sense of what counts as weeaboo, really. An Asian or even anime aesthetic does not wapanese faggotry make. It's when stupid preteens go around talking about how amazing Japan is and how much they wish they were there and calling themselves otaku and generally being retarded - that's the essence of weeaboo. I suppose anime has also become associated with a lot of really stupid, formulaic, and uninteresting cliches, mostly drawn from the shounen demographic. I guess I can't forget moefaggotry. Yet, because of these things, you see all sorts of legitimate and interesting ideas and thematics squelched because of a knee-jerk correlation with a few bad apples. It's honestly rather sad.
>>33925686stahp, my dick can only get so hard before it starts bending space and time around it.
>>33917241>Is it really an elf at that point? Or, rather, why bother labeling it an elf?You make a good point, but then ruin it by mentioned Tolkien who started this trend.
>>33925864Like all buzzwords, it eventually gets devalued into nothingness as people use it more and more to mean 'thing I don't like'. Mary sue, autism, hipster, etc.
>>33918426Cannabalism is out of place in that set as it doesn't require that the one doing the killing be the one dining.If you ate a man who was mauled to death by a bear it would still be cannibalism. For that matter if you only at a man's leg and left him alive it would still be cannibalism.
>>33925992I once swallowed a hangnail.
>>33926048I am fairly certain cannibalism only applies if you eat the fleshy bits.
>>33926298No, it applies to eating any body parts.You dumbfuck.
>>33926298what about bones?
>>33921837Well, they got their start with a royal marriage, and their king showed up wearing his wife's skin. They then fled into the swamp, and built up their kingdom their.Imagine the father-in-law getting upset at that.
>>33914686Reminds me of the orks in the Heroes of Might and Magic world.
>>33927052They were more just generic badlands dwelling barbarians.
>>33914759Makes a little sense to me considering that elves are often the dying/fading race in many settings. They live forever but can't seem to get their shit together.
>>33914630my elves are savage cannibals and hunt humans for sport.
>>33927079That's a creation of Tolkien. Germanic elves weren't dying or fading. They were another being, on par with the Aesir, and often married them and Jotunn. It's said you could reincarnate into an elf.
>>33923775Fuck you're right.
>>33920576Set it during the Boshin War. The party is a team of troubleshooters for the Emperor. Their job is to find trouble and shoot it.
>>33914760but...it was very clearly voodoo...they even called it voodoo
>>33914902then what's the point?
>>33918931an eldar standing before an Avatar of Khaine...naked
>>33914851Aztecs would worship that busty bimbo bitch as a goddess.
>>33918916go back to /d/ fag.
>>33920282I avoid any and all asian influence in my games because I hate almost all facets of asian culture.
>>33930417/pol/ is angryangry about yellers
>>33916626As a slav I find this racist and offensive.
>>33930867Then go squat somwhere else
>>33925210>Close to nature lifestyle. I don't see than they had this more than an European peasant. Heck, the mayans used slash and burn to get they crops, to maintain they population from starbing. Until that system failed because the rains eroded the arable land and they culture collapsed because they couldn't feed all they population.
>>33930417Even the parts which are almost completely parallel to European culture with perhaps a few differences in context?
>>33931702Seriously, this. The native american had no more "deep connection to nature" than anyone else in the world. We're all humans with the same short-sighted way of thinking "if it's there now, it'll always be there".