You are Zhu Xing, from the city of Xu Chang. While spending time in Jing, you've partially schemed to get second son of Liu Biao as heir. Helping Gan Ning overcome a suicidal death mission given by Huang Zu, you've won the ex-pirate over to your side. Reuniting with an old friend, you wait for Lu Bu to return from his campaign. Character Profile: http://pastebin.com/UTDjnUuXPast threads: http://archive.foolz.us/tg/search/subject/three%20kingdoms%20quest/
As the blistering summer weather of the Southlands comes to a close, Lu Bu's army returns to the city of Jian Ye. His army, bolstered by new recruits and even some of the Shanyue tribes, numbers twenty thousand strong. Tales of his victories against the Bandit King Yan Baihu and the Shanyue tribes raises Lu Bu to a legendary status, and no doubt news of him conquering the South spreads across the land. Having helped Lu Bu conquer the territory west, your fame spreads as well. You await Lu Bu at the front gates of Jian Ye.At the head of his powerful looking army, Lu Bu stands tall and proud atop his horse. From the last year of fighting, you notice in particular that Lu Bu has grown a well-grounded beard, seemingly having decided not to shave during his campaign. To his side is Chen Gong, smiling pleasantly as his plans of seeing the South conquered have gone well. The other generals follow behind in dutiful manner.At the front of the gates, you and the others head out to meet Lu Bu. Lu Bu dismounts seeing you, and walks toward you with open arms.“Zhu Xing! How great it is to see you once again, my good friend.”>Greet Lu Bu with a respectful bow>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace him
I think we should ask Lu Bu to make Gan Ning an admiral. He's a pirate, and no one else we have is experienced on the water.
>>33900249>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace him
>>33900249>>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace himIf it was anyone else, I'd say respectful. But we haven't seen the Bu in over a year.
>>33900226We need to do two things.1. We need to send a letter to apologise to Liu Biao about Gan Ning, to make sure Huang Zu doesn't slander us.2. We should send a letter to Sun Ce praising him in the fight and that we're eager to fight him again.
>>33900249>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace himHe's our friend as well as our lord.
>>33900226>4 minutes lateI was in full panic mode.You triggered me, shitlord.>>33900249>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace him
>>33900249>>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace him>>33900285I'm ok with the second, not the first. The less said, the better.
>>33900249>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace himHe's our m8, m8
>>33900249>>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace himAlso do we get our Style name now?
>>33900249>>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace himLU BU SEMPAI
>>33900261Yeah, we need more naval generals. However, I don't want him to be limited to just naval battles. He's great at ambushes and everything else as well.
>>33900249>Greet Lu Bu in a friendly manner and embrace him.It has been too long.
>>33900261And maybe he can help train some of the LT generals.Song Xian or another general being good on water would be a good thing.
>>33900285Bad plans are bad.
>>33900249>Greet Lu Bu with a respectful bowLu Bu feeds on praise
>>33900285No for the first, a letter to Cai Mao maybe in case Huang Zu tries to slander us. Sun Ce, sure why not. We should focus on getting our siblings married off and building up our navy.
The first thing we need to do is visit Zhang Liao. He still isn't at friendly status with us, and that shit cannot stand.
>>33900297The problem is, is that in ROTK stealing officers from anyone SERIOUSLY damages relations.If anything we should have Cheng Gong smooth over relations.
>>33900285>2. We should send a letter to Sun Ce praising him in the fight and that we're eager to fight him again.I was thinking, could we try to play a meng huo type thing with ce? Meet him plenty, beat him plenty, but always let him go and act friendly and trustworthy and all. A vassal might betray us, but a friend won't.
>>33900285Only the second letter with a bottle of wine, not for the first.Honestly we should get that sent out soon. And I hope Raian-senpai doesn't force us to use a full turn to write a letter. That'll be silly.
We really, really need to find our sister a husband before she becomes an old maid.I suggest Gao Shun.
>>33900299We have to come up with it ourselves I think.>>339002851. Nope, the whole point was to be discrete.2. We should, and I'm partial to wishing him luck on avenging his father.
>>33900362Ce is not a friend. Ce is a rival, and one whose ancestral homelands we are occupying. Your plans are STILL terrible.
>>33900376Gao Shun is my first choice as well. If not, maybe Gan Ning? He's unmarried as well. Zhang Liao is always an option, although sister would be second waifu.
>>33900360Huang Zu didn't even care for Gan Ning, would he report to Liu Biao about his retirement? Whats more Gan Ning's letter didn't even specify that he was joining us. By writing the letter, we bring attention to the issue.
>>33900299>>33900384Some anon tried two threads back, he got shot down from a bunch of people saying "the name ain't right, pick another".Sooo... who here understands Chinese better than that anon?
>>33900384But the fact is, is that Huang Zu will bitch to Liu Biao and disrupt the relations between our factions, therefore all the work we put in last thread WILL BE GONE
>>33900410Gan Ning sent a letter to Liu Biao informing him of his retirement. So he knows.
>>33900423What was his proposed name?
>>33900410Because it's a way to strike at US.That's why.
>>33900439Sparkle Star or something.
>>33900396If we help him kill that shit stain Huang Zu its not so impossible to become friends with Ce. Stop using meta knowledge that he wants to conquer the south to shoot down attempts to recruit him. He's a powerful warrior that would benefit our faction greatly if we got his clan to side with us and earned their loyalty.
>>33900439Thread #9>>Tiān Zhì. 天志. No idea what it means.
>>33900475Stop using meta knowledge in an attempt to recruit him. All we know is that he's working for Yuan Shu and we kicked his shit in. Your gigantic Ce boner is entirely meta.
>>33900428Huang Zu doesn't know where Gan Ning has gone either. Maybe he noticed the men missing but considering his opinion of Ning he likely thinks the guy just up and went to be a pirate somewhere.
>>33900493That means 'Heaven's will'.That's just asking for it.>>33900516And that he wants Huang Zu's head. Its a reasonable assumption.
>>33900493>Tiān ZhìIf represented as Tianzhi, it can mean 'duty/vocation' or 'acquire' depending on the tone.I think Tianzhi is fine.
>>33900396If our encounter taught us anything, it's that he, much like Xing, can respect a rival. What are Gan Ning and Ling Tong? Rivals can exist under the same banner, you know. All I'm saying is that there's an option available that isn't>Kill him, he's gunna invade us someday, trust meor >Let's just recruit the cocksucker, he's super cool.
>>33900589Ling Cao was a recruitable general that we passed up.Considering that Ling Tong's dad is still alive, the two might become friends if we recruit the father.
Since Shu and Wei had their five elite generals groups, do you think Lu Bu will form his own with us in it? I like the name "Five Roaring Gales" or something else wind-related.
Shouldn't our style name be Noodles in Sauce?
>>33900530Honestly, this will bite Huang as much as us if not more. Remember, the reason we got Gan Ning was because Haung was a glory hog even after sending us on a suicide mission. Sending an ally emesary who volunteered to help would be a big no no. Especially since that makes the Lu Bu Mad.
>>33900660Zhu Xing, aka: 炸酱面
>>33900660Nah, just Spaghetti.
>>33900631You wouldn't happen to know which thread he showed up in, would you?
>>33900633Zhu XingGan NingZhang LiaoGao ShunTaishi CiOh Heaven, we have a power team!
>>33900633Lu Bu's five elites?1. Zhu Xing2. Zhang Liao3. Taishi Ci4. Gao Shun 5. Gan Ning Going by rank/seniority/order of joining up.That's a pretty fantastic elite five group right there actually.
>>33900698Here you go anon.http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/32908522/#32916179And Raian did say the other generals were recruitable down the line.
>>33900633Well, we already have five high quality generals. It is a possibility. Still, we need a strategist who's more practical and down to earth, considering Lu Bu and our officer core.
>>33900750We need to recruit the southern Lu strategists, basically.
>>33900742You're great, thanks.
With a hearty laugh, you move to embrace Lu Bu and you both seize one another strongly. Lu Bu taps you on the back, as he motions for you to walk together."My good brother, I have heard you not only conquered Wang Lang's territories, but have also driven off that scoundrel Yuan Shu. Well done my friend, I knew that I could count on you. Soon I will announce my reign here in the Southlands, give titles to all my officers, and I will make you a lord over a city and give you households to rule. Name me any wish you want, and I shall give it to you Zhu Xing.""You have given me far too much, Lord Lu Bu. Do you wish to boost my ego, and fill my head with so much air that I can no longer battle?""I have filled my heard with such arrogance long ago, and I can still kill a man a swipe of my halberd," Lu Bu replies as you both laugh.As you walk together with Lu Bu through the city, numerous people swarm around to take a glance at the legendary lord and the general that conquered the South. Soldiers are needed to push some people away who cheer and attempt to come closer for a better glimpse of you two warriors."I have also received your letter concerning Liu Biao. I am glad to know you respect my authority, and wish to make no moves without my approval. However, I gave you the military tally of command because I trust you and have placed my faith in you. In the near future, if you think anything comes to my benefit, make no fear of deciding things yourself. You are my subordinate, but also a good brother of mine, Zhu Xing.">Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politely>Refuse, making certain to note Lu Bu is superior and your lord
>>33900781All for Lord Lu Bu.And Lingqi
>>33900516>Guy shows outstanding military skill in the battle we see him fight in, nearly rallying Yuan Shu's forces with his attack. He fights us bravely and is obviously a dangerous opponent. He doesn't respect Yuan Shu or Liu Biao for presumably the same reasons we don't. He's the son of the General who practically single handedly pushed the Dong out of the capital.I don't mind keeping him as rival, but its stupid to think there's nothing about him to make Zhu Xing want him on our side.
>>33900799>Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politely
>>33900799>>Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politely>>otherInform him we have gather a great number of talented officers and administrators and that we would like to introduce him to them.
>>33900799>Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politelyHe gave us the go ahead, and he's not the type to be saying this as a trap.
>>33900799>>Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politely
>>33900799>Accept Lu Bu's InquiryAnd then we form a blood oath with Lu Bu and Pursue him forever.
>>33900799>Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politely"I will strive to live up to the trust you place in me."
>>33900799>Name me any wish you want, and I shall give it to you Zhu XingI've got one in mind.>Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politely
.>>33900799>Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politelyI mean, even if we did send him the letter we went ahead without fumbling attempts at intrigue regardless. So it's how we're acting already
>>33900726>>33900741I like Five Roaring Gales or Five Violent Winds. And Lingqi can be the unofficial sixth wind.
>>33900885No, I don;t think the wish will go down well with Lingqi
>>33900799>Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politelyDo note that you did get to recruit many talented officers and administrators, at least.
>>33900799Supporting >>33900837>Accept Lu Bu's inquiry humbly and politelySo now we're going from Tactical RPG to Crusader Kings? Fuuuuuuuck. Anon's going to demand building whorehouses in all the districts, just you watch.
>>33900772That and Pang Tong. Apparently he was working for Wu for a bit before joining Shu, so he SHOULD be in Wu lands.
>>33900906We could ask permission to court her instead of outright asking for her hand in marriage. If that's the route anons want to go for.
>>33900906It's something I'd rather have her on board with before we knock on Papa Bu's door. >implying he'd be able to resist the combined forces of his stubborn daughter and his fumbling buddy
>>33900799Ask for Linqi's hand in marriage at the first possible opportunity.
>>33900905That makes her the fart, anon.
>>33900905... So who's the Red Wind? Green? Blue? Black? Yellow?Lingqi won't be happy if she's the Pink Wind-- that's obviously Diaochan's color.
>>33900772Heck, I'd settle for just Lu Meng. But we should still aim high for now.Swiggity swooty, I'm comin' for dat Zhuge.
>>33900950All I can picture is the child having angry and thick brows from the day he is born.. and punching the fool who takes him from the wound.
>>33900988Raian has repeatedly shot down recruiting Zhuge
>>33900988I think he's more likely to be the magnificent administrator he was in reality, rather than a super strategist.
>>33900961Haw haw.>>33900966I was thinking more North, South, East, West, and Heavenly (with us being the latter, of course)
>>33900955>>33900939>>33900906>>33900885Courtesy and protocol would dictate that you call upon the Father at their private residence for a personal one-on-one meeting over tea. Have a little nice chat about the weather and whatnot for a few minutes before you bring up the matter you came over for.And then we either get a halberd to the face or a blatant "wut" from Brother Fengxian.I've watched too many C-Dramas for my own damn good.
>>33901020Just need to recruit Zhuge Jun, who traveled into Wu lands, he would most likely recommend someone to Zhuge Liang.
>>33901029'Come Zhu Xing.If you want to court her, you have to defeat me first!'
>>33900917We can just have our team of trusty administrators take care of that. We still got Yu Fan as our personal administrator. We also had a hand in recruiting every single administrator so I think at least one will follow us to our city.
I think our highest concern should be to get some nice tea cups for our kettle.
>>33901064Raian doesn't do recruiting like that remember? He just has people roll and then gives a general, vague description.It's a good thing too, prevents most of the meta from spilling over into the quest.
>>33901029Yep, though knowing Lingqi we should probably get her on board before anything else.>>33901067>Zhu Xing's kettle is now diamonds.
>>33901067That's why we get Lingqi's approval first. She'll help us in the duel.
>>33901027"I WILL BE THE UNDEFEATED OF THE EAST, SOUTH, WEST, NORTH AND CENTER!""I WILL BECOME SUPER ASIA."
>>33901067'Do not pursue Lingqi before you have pursued Lu Bu.' - old chinese proverb
>>33901147But..we did that. Lu Bu was our first trusted relation.
>>33901100Well, that's the thing.But still, Zhuge Jun is a lead.
We should hold off on asking about Lingqi. At the moment she'd probably just tolerate being married to Zhu Xing rather than actually wanting it.
>>33901167I'm fairly sure we'll pick him up accidentally if he shows up in the pool.We always pick the smarty pants when it comes to the recruiting pool. Yan Jun and Wang Can come to a mind.
It'd be a safer bet to have our Brother train under the wisest men we can find and have him become a super strategist/administrator instead of chasing after guys we don't know about IC.
>>33901187We're not actually going to do that, too.
How much gold do we have right now? Also before pursuing Lingqi we should heal our wounds first. I mean that shit will mean a duel against Lu Bu and Lingqi for sure.
>>33901196Mostly because we were ridiculously top heavy in the warrior department. We have a pretty good corp of administrators now, though. Still need a couple strategists.
>>33901187Raian did mention that theres some element of like at 'Trusted' and you can see shes really concerned for Zhu Xing already.I still agree that we need abit more time and maybe use Cai Yan to get Lingqi abit jealous and more forward.
>>33901211Did I just hear Zuo Ci?
"Hmmm..." you reply, hands folded behind your back. "You put my in an awkward position. Should I make too many decisions by myself, people may begin to think I disrespect your command and wish power of my own. But perhaps you are right, key decisions must be made on the spot in good time."Lu Bu waves his hand in dismissal."Take no concern of the opinions of chickens and shrimp. I am a dragon rising to the heavens, and you are a tiger growing wings. Hah, perhaps that makes Gongtai the fox with his little schemes and ploys. In any case, send me any one who would disrespect your honor by thinking you anything lower than a good general and brother of mine, and I shall have him thrashed."Lu Bu stops, and taps you once again on the shoulders."I shall head back to the palace now. It has been far too long since I saw my wife and Diaochan. In a few days, I shall make an announcement of my reign here. Rest a bit till then."You give a bow to Lu Bu, who departs.---------------------------------------The next day is full of gossip and people speaking about Lu Bu. You hear from them that among the people that joined Lu Bu, the famous Two Zhangs; Zhang Zhao and Zhang Hong have also joined up with Lu Bu. People begin to talk that your forces are unstoppable now.With Lu Bu's announcement still away for a few more days, you have some free time to catch up with the other officers. Perhaps you should visit some of the returning officers, or perhaps just talk with one of the many friends you've made. >Choose someone to visit
>>33901270Nope. No fucking wizards n shit. I don't care how powerful he is, he's gonna end up attaching to Liu Bei again and screw us over.
>>33900955>"Seduce me, Zhu Xing. Then and only then will you be worthy of my daughter."
>>33901296>Choose someone to visitZhang Liao
>>33901296>Choose someone to visitZhang Liao. Him being only at appreciated can not stand.
>>33901296Gather the five Roaring Gales together, and find a peach garden.
>>33901296>Choose someone to visitZhang Liao or Lingqi >the famous Two Zhangs; Zhang Zhao and Zhang Hong have also joined up with Lu Bu. People begin to talk that your forces are unstoppable now.Hell yes
>>33901296>ZHANG ZHAO AND ZHANG HONG JOINED US
>>33901296>WRITE LETTERSUN CE
>>33901296>Choose someone to visitZhang Liao>Zhang Zhao and Zhang Hong have also joined up with Lu Bu.OH BABY
>>33901296Chen GongI want to speak more to this man.We need better relations with our main strategist.He will also have more to speak about what happened on the campaign
>>33901296>>visit someone (Zhang Liao)We need to bro it up
We need to do matchmaking. Brother -> Cai YanSister -> Gao Shun or Gan Ning. Just introduce everyone at first, see if they hit it off. inb4 sister totally spills her spaghetti at bad boy Gan Ning
>>33901296seconding the first part of this >>33901341
>>33901296>Choose someone to visitZhang Liao>Zhang Zhao and Zhang HongHow the hell did he get them?
I'm unfamiliar with these two Zhang's. Are they badasses?
>>33901296>>33901355Yes please.Raian, whatever option we do, writing a quick letter and sending it off should be doable with our chosen option without having to spend one entire turn on it.
>>33901296Zhang Liao. We must buddy up with our fellow five generals so that we may fight like an ancient chinese A team.
>>33901296>Taishi CiWe've never actually interacted with him.
>>33901296>Choose someone to visitChen GongKind of want to debrief a little before we go all administrative mode.
>>33901296Chen Gong, failing that our bro Zhang Liao. We should get an idea on what Chen Gong plans for the future with Yuan and Liu and fill him in with more detail in regards to the events that took place while we were visiting Liu Biao.But we need to show some appreciation for Zhang Liao as well, nothing fancy or anything. Just need to let him know his efforts have been appreciated.
>>33901424Badass administrators>Zhang Zhao's proficiency in administrating civilian affairs was impressive, as before Sun Ce died, he told his successor Sun Quan, "Consult Zhang Zhao on internal affairs and Zhou Yu on external affairs
>>33901372No, wrong.Brother goes to a Qiao.Sister goes to a more external force that ISNT already on our side.Learn to politics.
>>33901296Visit Chen Gongand >>33901355v
>>33901424>Sun Ce had such a high regard for Zhang Zhao that he authorized him to deal with all important affairs, both military and civil.
>>33901355This goddamn it.Why do people want to visit Zhang Liao anyway? Seems weird.
>>33901463>wanting to waste even more time instead of having them pop out heirs to continue the linelearn2dynasty
>>33901372Brother-Cai Yan would be a formidable administrator team. I don't see the Qiaos being available anytime soon, so I like this match.Agreed on the sister as well though I wonder if Gan Ning is the type to beat his wife.
>>33901488Well, besides hurr durr muh meta best warrior na under lu bu, he's a pretty cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything
>>33901296>>Choose someone to visitZhang Liao
>>33901439Is Taishi Ci in this quest an archer or the dynasty warrior style fighter?
>>33901494If you want that, then take a Qiao as a wife instead of fucking around with Lu Lingqi, and start pumping out babies and have marriages everywhere.But no, we wait Lingqi, so we have to make the best use we can out of the situation we have.
>>33901488>Choosing Sun Ce over our bro and second highest ranked general Zhang Liao
>>33901424Judging by their stats, we just got two high grade administrators. We are not going to be hurting there.
>>33901296>>33901355i am fine with whoever as long as we can slot in the letter writing
Do we really want to send a messenger into enemy territory just to say 'hey buddy had fun fighting you'.Is that worth risking somebody's life?
>>33901551I don't care about the letter, but that's a pretty insignificant reason to oppose it.
>>33901526I think I recall him using two clubs so Dynasty Warriors style seems closer.
>>33901551Do you really think we'll send a military messenger?It'll go in with civilian traffic.
>>33901528Well we are in the process of making Lu Bu the boss of china so marrying his daughter to ket our dynasty take over makes sense you know.
>>33901488Because writing a letter to sun ce is weird? We fought him,, have no real interest, and he's on a enemy side right now. Meanwhile Zhang Liao has helped us a lot but we aren't even friendly with him.
>>33901579And the content of the message would be unchanged. Actually, go ahead and send the letter. Ce will probably be so disgusted he'll never speak to us again and cancel the rivaling.
>>33901583Yes, it does.However you're not backing up that marriage with anything significant.Our name is powerful on it's own, moreso with Lu in it. BUT, if we can (best case scenario) combine Sun and Qiao into it, we're essentially the beloved of the south lands.
>>33901534i get so happy when i see people use these screencaps
>>33901624This image is going to prove useful in the future.
>>33901359>>33901296Voting for Chen Gong, we're going to need some guidance on administrative things. 'Cause we only gud at fights.
We really should increase our Leadership now that we War with the best of them.
Before you depart your household, you remember the fight you had with Sun Ce. He was one of the toughest warriors you fought, and he even gave you some trouble at the battle with Liu Biao's forces. Seeing yourself in some ways to the young man, you decide to send a letter to the young man praising his skills and announcing to him that you wish to fight with him once again. With that done, you decide to pay a visit to Zhang Liao who has fought along with you the past year. You respect the man for his might and skill as a general, and you feel like you should become friends with the man. You visit his household and the servants quickly allow you in. At the living room, Zhang Liao is reading over some books and he rises to greet you with a bow when you arrive."Greetings, General," he says with a bow and a nod of acknowledgement."A good day," you reply with a bow back. "I was hoping we could have a chat, as fellow warriors serving under our lord.""But of course," Zhang Liao says motioning for you to sit down as he sets aside his books. >Talk about your recent campaign>Talk about the political aspects and lord of the land>Inquire about the books he read
>>33901668No? We should finish our war up, then go for Charisma.We're at a point where we basically sit behind the lines now, so we may as well let others lead while we politics and RIP AND TEAR
>>33901725>Inquire about the books he read>Write inTell him that he's been a great aid, and that we would have failed countless times if not for his sound advice and prowess
>>33901725>Inquire about the books he readThen depending on what he's reading segue into >Talk about your recent campaignor>Talk about the political aspects and lord of the land
>>33901211>have our Brother train under the wisest men we can findWe have the two Zhangs now... might be worth it.
>>33901726Leadership is an important skill when you are behind the lines and commanding an entire army. Which is what we've been doing in campaigns. Leadership takes a higher priority than Charisma, which is also important.
>>33901725>Inquire about the books he readBe humble, don't pretend to know anything about anything
>>33901622So, you want to be loved by the south instead of the world. Besides, in all honesty, even if Sun Ce escapes Yuan Shu, chances are that he might just start roaming with Liu Bei and form a more loyalist Shu. Maybe with Ma Teng as well.Besides, the Qiaos really didn't help as much once Sun Ce passed on. I don't mind having the Qiaos being treated well, but I do agree with solidifying things with the Lu Line.
>>33901725>Inquire about the books he readLet's get to know him personally.
>>33901725>Inquire about the books he readZhang Liao is a smart man, let's not speak purely of war and shit.
>>33901725>>Inquire about the books he readStart with some basic lead ins.>also sending the letterBased Raian
>>33901725>>Inquire about the books he readWhatcha reading there, bud?
>>33901725>Inquire about the books he readLet's get some culture
>>33901725>>Inquire about the books he read
>>33901725>Inquire about the books he readthen>Talk about your recent campaign
>>33901725>>Inquire about the books he readAlso inquire about what pastimes he enjoys, like tea drinking or calligraphy or whatever classy gentlemen like him do for fun.
>>33901725>Inquire about the books he read>>33901755This too. He and Gao Shun were invaluable in the previous campaign.
>>33901725>Inquire about the books he read
>>33901755I agree with this. Zhang Liao is pretty bro tier along with Gao Shun and Gan Ning.
>>33901726The biggest problems we've had so far has been in leading armies. The most we managed was an 1:1 exchange and if we keep having the smaller armies we really need to do better.
>>33901725>>Talk about your recent campaignZhang Liao is a warrior first and foremost. So are we. Let's play to that common bond.
>>33901755This.>>33901771Liu Bei is to the north east of Yuan Shu, with very little power and ambition.Not only will he be abandoning his mother in the south lands, he will be joining someone stagnant.Rather than re-joining his mother, rejoining his homelands, serving under a good lord, etc etc.And the Qiaos helped, that's good enough.
>>33901761The Two Zhangs, Chen Gong for military strategy, and Wang Can for literature and governance.
>>33901841He was also extremely humble.Remember our first interaction where he did not match our declaration to take heads and make names for ourselves. Talking about a matter that might lead to or including boasting may not have the best effect.
>>33901863Fujoshishit pls go
>>33901838This is nitpicking, but we were outnumbered by Wang Lang. 7000-7500(?) to 10000 I believe. Leadership is still really fucking important though.
>>33901857>preparing our backup characterAll for it.
>>33901863>The Books are Zhang Liao's officer visit item meant to improve visits like our kettle. Kek.
>>33901897>borrow books>make sure Zhang Liao dies next campaign>books get
>>33901880>Shufags etc etc etc
>>33901877Yeah, we need to keep from boasting and keep the talks of past and future campaigns to a more thoughtful tone. We could consider asking if he'd be interested in mock battles/board games to study warfare together. A way to sharpen our minds as well as our skills. I'm pretty sure he'd be down for sparring whenever though.
>>33901725I want a spar. Let's make sure he understands we are the #2 here.
>>33901981Except he's superior as both a general and a fighter. Really, if anyone should have an independent command, it's him.
>>33901981We need to be sure our wound is healed before sparring the likes of the elite 5.
>>33902010Which is why we need to make our position clear.
>>33901974I would be down with sparring but sparring with Go.
Guys whats a good pre-nuptial gift for Lu buI'm thinking sneaking the Emperor out from under Cao cao's nose
>>33902153Do you want us to die?
Sitting down, you take a glance at the books Zhang Liao set aside. You think it is a good topic to bring up."Were you studying General? I hope I have not interrupted anything."Zhang Liao nods."A general must be knowledgeable on tactics and warfare. Though I am a warrior at heart, I must also lead my men as they have entrusted their lives to me. And well..."He takes out one of the books, looks at it with a slight sigh."I was reading upon my ancestors as well. One of my ancestors was a disgraced general, and long before my family name used to not be Zhang. We changed it to save us the disgrace from his failure."You can see some of Zhang Liao's resolute attitude has to do with this disgraced ancestor. Sensing her may have some personal problems with this, you decide to dissuade Zhang Liao of any doubts. "General, without your help, I think that the my campaign may have gone worse. Have no fear of your ancestors, you have done much to contribute to Lord Lu Bu's cause and I am certain he trusts you."Zhang Liao nods."In one way, I feel I must make up for my ancestors as part of their blood and line. However, I will not let them dictate who I am here. I will not allow the failures of men from the past to prevent me from obtaining true might and serving my lord."Zhang Liao smiles."But I thank you for your counsel and help, General.">Talk about intrigue within your own force>Talk about the other lords of the land>Ask for a sparring session
>>33902183>Talk about the other lords of the landWe're kind of too wounded to spar.
>>33902153We shouldn't.The Emperor in Cao Cao's possession is the catalyst we need to bring all the warlords to bear on Cao Cao.>>33902183>Ask for a sparring sessionBut with GoLets spar.Intellectually.
>>33902183>>Ask for a sparring match
>>33902183>>Talk about the other lords of the land
>>33902183>>Talk about the other lords of the landIntrigue would insult him, and I'd like to hear his thoughts on this before sparring.
>>33902183>>Talk about the other lords of the landAsk about Gan Ning and Gao Shun
>>33902183>Ask for a sparring sessionLet's be honest. That's what we came for.
>>33902183>>33902223This. We'd get our ass handed to us while wounded if we actually sparred.
>>33901463We're not getting a Qiao, it was a match made in Heaven that they would be the wives of Sun Ce and Zhou Yu. Unless Raian says something to revoke that.
>>33902223this is great
>>33902183>>Talk about the other lords of the landI'm actually interested in this.We are also wounded at the moment I believe so there is no reason to spar
>>33902183>>Talk about the other lords of the landWe're supposed to be healing, not risking injuries.
>>33902183>Talk about intrigue within your own forceHow is this not a red flag? We need to be on this.
>>33902183>Ask for a sparring sessionHe wishes to improve not only his skill at arms, but in command as well. After that incident with the fire ploy failure, we could certainly use some training and advice from a fellow general. A mock battle game should be good.
>>33902183>Talk about intrigue within your own force
>>33902183>Talk about the other lords of the land>Ask for a sparring sessionSPAR AT GO>
>>33902265I thought it was more a trap option. Zhang Liao doesn't seem the type to really want to talk about that stuff. We should save that for Chen Gong.
>>33902291It's definitely the trap option.
>>33902245Well yeah. Maybe the fact Zhou Yu and Sun Ce are bumfuck nobodies and their father wants to marry them to someone important?
>>33902183>>Ask for a sparring sessionVia Go or some strategy game that doesn't entail getting hit
>>33902311Stop samefagging the Go thing.
>>33902183>>Ask for a sparring sessionVia board game, of course. Who better to learn military strategy than from Zhang Liao? Besides Chen Gong, I can't think of anyone else in our army well versed in military strategy and tactics.
>>33902245Fuck the Heaven But I still want Cai Yong for other brother
>>33902183>Talk about the other lords of the land
>>33902231I'm pretty sure Gan Ning and Gao Shun aren't lords of the land. It's Cao Cao and Yuan Shao and the like.
>>33902369Yes, but it's the closest option to what I wanted. I'd like it if we built up relations between top generals especially the Five Roaring Gales.
>>33902183>>Talk about the other lords of the landZhang Liao is more about duty than thrills when it comes to battle. A friendly match isn't up his alley the same way it is for Lu Bu.
>>33902389My guess is that Zhang Liao and Gao Shun get along famously. They have similar personality types.Zhang Liao and Gan Ning should get along okay since Zhang Liao likes strong warriors too. Gan Ning and Gao Shun might be a bad match though.
>>33902442>Gan Ning and Gao ShunBuddy cop movie when?
>>33902442>Zhang Liao and Gan Ning should get along okay since Zhang Liao likes strong warriors too.Don't you remember the almost-fight they had last thread?
>>33902474They made up pretty quick once we stepped in though. Even Gan Ning admitted to being in the wrong.
>>33902501yeah but it still leaves a bad taste in the mouth. I'd rather that not be their only lasting interaction
>>33902550Zhang Liao spent some time showing him around the city and telling him how things are run after that. They're fine.
>>33902421Harry Propeller HeadsThe fuck?
>>33902474Until we intervened. Gao Shun is more of a stickler for law and order. Zhang Liao is honorable, but he likes strong warriors as well. Similar personalities, but Gao Shun is more likely to have a long-term issue with Gan Ning.
>>33902183>>Talk about the other lords of the land>>Ask for a sparring sessionIf we're actually doing the Go thing... Theres no reason why they can't be done at the same time.
"No doubt you are an integral part of our force, General Zhang. How about we test each other's wits with a game of Go?""Hmmm... It is said that even a small game such as that is integral to strategy and knowing tactics. Very well," Zhang Liao replies, calling for a servant to bring a board and some stones.You begin to play your game. Along the way you decide to discuss the lords of the land with Zhang Liao."What would you say of the current lords of the land? Are they a match for our force?" you say placing down a stone."The other lords? To be frank, I am not concerned much with them. I follow Lord Lu Bu, and his path is my only concern. Of all the lords, I do feel Cao Cao and Yuan Shao are our biggest concerns however. They have conquered sizable territories of their own, and I believe they have talented officers under their belt as well. For those like Yuan Shu and Liu Biao... I do not believe we should be too concerned with them. They will never conquer the land."You both exchange territory capturing, and it seems both of you are on par as of now.>Roll 1d100, best of three
Rolled 72>>33902632lets do this
Rolled 10>>33902632I Go Gud
Rolled 3>>33902632GO fuq yourself
Rolled 29>>33902632"I am in agreement. Of the two, I find Cao Cao to be more dangerous. With our current strength, we might be hard pressed to defeat them, we might need to find alliances to defeat Cao Cao first."
>>33902421What the actual fuck. Some of those names, man.
Y'know, I'd rather that instead of plotting to steal other guys' wives and strategists before we and they have even met them, how about we just focus on what's right in front of us?Like, Liu Biao and his generals need to be taken out. Liu Biao is a whore for peace, Huang Zu is a cowardly rat who sacrifices his own men and steals glory, and Liu Cong's Uncle may one day prove dangerous to our lord's heirs.
>>33902720Yuan Shu pls go
Rolled 42>>33902712Actually, Cao Cao really isn't that strong at the moment in anything but politics.If we can get Yuan Shu out of the way, then we leave a perfect opening to Xu Chang, and the Emperor, and Cao Cao's main base while he fights off Yuan Shao.Taking it however raises larger problems. Such as Liu Bei joining Cao Cao, or Yuan Shao joining him.
>>33902752>Liu Bei joining Cao Cao,I pray this happens, just because Liu Bei will inevitably betray him.
Rolled 38>>33902752I hope Yuan Shu declares himself emperor before we go smash his face in. It'll be so much more satisfying if he does that bone headed move. Also Lu Bu would get more "Loyal to the Han" points politically. Though cow cow may try and use that against us at some point.
>>33902752How about making Sun Ce the owner of Yuan Shu's lands so we're not fucked politically?Then ride with Sun Ce and Liu Biao upwards, to defeat Cao Cao.
Hey, why do people have a problem with BENEVOLENCE, to the point where they sarcastically type it in all caps?
>>33902752If we can take the emperor, we can make real the falsehood of protecting the emperor.
>>33902786Jesus, go read some yaoi hentai of sun ce and calm your raging boner.
>>33902769I am honestly picturing the way this version of RoTK ending with Lu Bu looking at a chained Liu Bei who has betrayed multiple lords and sentencing him to death for being unloyal. The irony would be delicious.
>>33902752Yuan Shao is too proud to join up with the likes of Cao Cao and Liu Bei will eventually betray Cao Cao if they join forces. What we should do is keep tabs on Cao Cao and strike when his and Yuan Shao's forces decide to fight it out later using Jing as a launching point.
>>33902787It's a mystery
>>33902786Sun Ce's a good general but letting him hold land may be a mistake.
>>33902787Benevolence runs counter to RIP AND TEAR. Some anons just want to watch China burn. I prefer the middle ground.
>>33902787In this particular quest? It could refer to the playerbase using modern Western morals to make decisions. Which almost always backfires because ancient China had different moral standards. It could refer to the raging hard-on that people have for Zhuge Liang. It could refer to the fact that Liu Bei backstabbed everyone, pissing off Weifags, Wufags, and Lu Bu fags. Take your pick
>>33902798>people hate on sun ce>people hate on Liu BeiWhy do you suck Cao Caos cock so much?
>>33902841>implying we're not chasing after lingqi because it's the closest we'll get to railing lu bu sempai
>>33902826Ancient China may be different, but the guys who were 100% for Loot and Pillage were mistaken in thinking it was THAT different.
>>33902826>Lu Bu fags complaining about backstabbing
>>33902817So that's why Ahdou had brain problems
>>33902798It's like setting up a puppet government you know. He'll basically be under our control but officially he's be in control.>>33902821Not really, after Yuan Shu is defeated, Sun Ce would have a hard time finding troops.And then against us? We have some of the best generals, administrators and one of the best allies to count on.The only person who could challenge us head on is Yuan Shao right now
Rolled 86Guys guys Sun/Liu alliance
Rolled 14>>33902752Liu Bei's going to hate Cao Cao anyways, seeing how they're diametric opposites and then there's the whole "I'm a scion of the House of Liu, how dare Cao Cao hold the Emperor against his will." etc etc etc.
>>33902824But I thought our character was someone who wanted to go down in history. Do we want to be known as a monster, or a hero?
>>33902808Actually you're right, totally forgot Jing connected to Xu Chang. But keeping Yuan Shu alive at that time wouldn't be a good idea either...
>>33902864This is true though. Winning popular support is Empire Building 101 no matter which era you are in. Cao Cao did it, Sun Ce/Quan did it, and Liu Bei did it. Taking lip from some punkass insulting our lord would have been a bad decision though
>>33902864They pretty much had the same moral standards as the Romans did. Minor differences, sure, but if you're familiar with that, it isn't hard to grasp the Chinese.
>>33902873>Yuan ShaoLoving every laugh.
>>33902905I still find it amazing how the two empires existed around the same time and indirectly traded with one another
>>33902885Yeah, it's what I pondered about before. Liu Bei may be low tier right now, but so is Sun Ce, and they are both loyalists. If Liu Bei marries that Sun Girl, instead of a marriage alliance, it may very well solidify them as one loyalist force.
>>33902936It's true. Yuan Shao has the most land, the most grain and the most troops.His commanders and strategists are incompetent, but if the land was arranged differently, he could challenge us as it was, and we'd find it hard pressed to survive
>>33902964That'll be a pain in the ass to deal with...
>>33902964>Liu Bei>Caring about allianceslaughingcaocao.gif
>>33902964It won't happen though, Sun Ce literally gives up fucking everything by going there.Including his mother!
>>33902964It's 195 right now. Didn't Liu Bei marry SSX in 209ish? I'm pretty sure she's like 8 right now or something.
>>33902999That just makes it more appealing for him.
>>33902936Yuan Shao has a shittload of food, troops, and land. You can't just gloss over him because our officers have higher stats.
>>33902964>If Liu Bei marries that Sun Girl,You mean that marriage where Liu Bei was almost 50, and she was 18?Yeah, not going to fucking happen mate
>>33901027Heavenly Gale- Zhu XingNorthern Gale- Zhang LiaoEastern Gale- Gao ShunSouthern Gale- Gan NingWestern Gale- Taishi CiI like it. We can be the quirky miniboss squad if they ever make a game out of this campaign.
>>33902999Question is would it make sense for them to even offer the marriage alliance or accept it in the first place?Now that the Suns dont even hold any land.
>>33903021I always found it amusing how dynasty warriors glossed over that point.
>>33903040non non nonIn chinese wuxia, you don't use tian.You use Zhong. Or centre.Central Gale for the strongest.
>>33903044Dynasty Warriors has them looking like they're 18 even when they're like 80.
>>33902964Ooh, I hope this happens! I dunno why though. Maybe because unless Liu Bei gets hitched to Sun Shu, somebody on here will go, "Hey, we should get to one of them first 'cause FUCK them and their happiness, am I right?"
>>33903040>mfw we are the Ancient Chinese Winds of Destruction
>>33902960Yep, its always fascinating to compare what was happening in other places in the world at the same time, that you might not consider when looking at only civilization. Fortunately Persia was in the way so that herpderp China vs. Rome arguments can be avoided. Chinese were big on Filial piety and loyalty to the state. Note that whenever someone doesn't like someone else they call them a traitor and Cao Cao is so quick to use the Emperor's authority. When it comes down to behavior in a war, well, the ancients all played dirty.
>>33903019Yuan Shao had pretty good generals and strategists. Zhang He, Gao Lan, Wen Chou, and Yan Liang were all good. The problem was that he was facetious lord and the succession crisis didn't help matters much.
>>33903057Why the fuck not? I don't really know about China or whatever, but Heaven sounds a lot more important than center.
>>33903069It won't happen. Neither side has anything to gain.And only Liu Bei does things he can't gain from
>>33903083>mfw the wind tiles in mahjoong are named after us
>>33903041Liu Bei recognized the Sun Clan as a family of heroes. Y'know, before they killed his bros, at least.
>>33903103>And only Liu Bei does things he can't gain fromI dunno, projecting an air of benevolence was one of his prime assets. He was fairly pragmatic when you look at the history.
>>33903100Because thats just how its done in wuxia.Read your Jinyong.
>>33903126>fairly pragmatic>betrayed more people than lu buthat's one way of putting it.
>>33903120Only Sun Jian. After Sun Ce did pathetically under Yuan Shu, that idea may have changed
>>33903083>We're using war as BENEVOLENCE so we can end war as BENEVOLENCE.
>>33903120Wasn't that in the wake of Sun Ce's conquest of the south?Now that he has nothing to his name, the sun family's worth is much reduced.
>>33903145Plus Raian basically said that Sun Ce is a nobody right now. Zhu Xing is a famous general, Sun Ce isn't.
>>33903169Yet Zhu Xing still sends him creepy stalker mail.
>>33903169Tl;dr, We're the little conqueror, Sun Ce is a buttfuck nobody with a cool father
>>33903157Nah, Liu Xuande recognized Sun Wengtai as one of the only lords who came to kill Dong Zhuo who wasn't also jealous of Dong Zhuo.
>>33903180Gotta keep up our rep as General Who Manifests SpaghettiWe've been too on the balls in our social interactions in the last thread or so
>>33903169Zhu Xing:Heavenly Gale, Manifester of Might, Spiller of Spaghetti.
>>33903202Also.Heavenly gale as the title shouldn't be used.Because thats reserved for Lu Bu.
>>33903202'Zhu Xing farts and the stench of Lu Bu is carried across the Southlands.' - Confucius
>>33903229Zhu Xing, Gale of Sharks.
>>33903229But he is the Flying General, anon. We are merely the winds that lift him up.
>>33903229No, Lu Bu is the flying general.We're the tale that carries him
>>33903233>lu bu>not lingqicmon anon, you know who we're more likely to eat.
Your match goes evenly for a while, but at the end, Zhang Liao manages to win at the game by a few points. You both respectfully attest to each others skill at the game, and talk a bit more before toue visit comes to an end."It has been a pleasure speaking together with you, General Zhu," Zhang Liao says with a smile.You bow in return."Let us get us a few drinks next time, and perhaps even have a spar. I am afraid my wounds prevent me from doing so today.""I would be glad to match blades with you. Farewell, until next time General."Learning more about Zhang Liao and his character, your relationship with him increases.
>>33903202Fondler of Kettles, Adopter of Window Boys.
>>33903253The gale that comes from Heaven lifts someone up?
>>33903253If we're heading for a point where we make a push for the Lu Dynasty, then Heavenly Gale is suitable.The winds of the Heavens sweep across China.
The next few days, Lu Bu calls for a gathering of officers at the center of the city. Crowds and throngs of people gather to see. Lu Bu steps forward as people murmur amongst themselves excitedly. “People of Yangzhou!” Lu Bu calls out. “I, the Flying General, have take it upon myself to govern these lands and lead the South to crush rebels and traitors filling this land. I ask each and one of you to serve me faithfully and help me bring prosperity back to these lands long ravaged by barbarians and bandits. I have killed Yan Baihu, and subjugated the Shanyue that have plagued your territory. I now look upon to kill rebels like Yuan Shu who scheme and plot to usurp the throne. With my elite army, my officers, and the cavalry that follow me, I have no doubt those who would oppose me shall me crushed beneath me. To those that have the courage and bravery to earn yourself a name, follow me to pierce the skies and heavens. To the others, I ask that you follow the law and follow your daily duties in earnest. Follow these simple rules, and I swear that you will live a good life under my law. I also make strict laws that my men shall not take or pillage the people of the Southlands. Those who do shall meet the law.”The crowds of people cheer and raise their hands. Years before, Lu Bu used to pillage the lands and people for his army. You can see that as a lord now, he has changed some of his policies and character.“Now, my faithful strategist Chen Gong shall announce titles and ranks for those that serve under me.”
>>33903277Conqueror of Yumi
>>33903268Well at least we didn't insult him. Still a disappointing visit really.
>>33903291Oh shit here it comes. Five Roaring Gales is go!
>>33903291Chen Gong steps forward.“In light of his merits and efforts, General Zhu Xing is enoffed as Prefect of Wu and given the title of Inspector. Along with his title, General Who Manifest Might, he shall have control over a fourth of the army and has command over military and political affairs. Zhang Zhao, who has served to being stability back to these lands and has helped with developing our territories shall be enoffed as Administrator of Hui Ji and Senior Consultant. He shall have the greatest authority when it comes to managing these lands and enforcing the law. General Zhang Liao shall be given a hundred households, with the title of General of Tiger Courage...”The ranks and titles go and on for some time, with additional speeches followed. At the end of the day, you are given jurisdiction over the city of Wu and have been granted additional privileges and titles. As the cheers subside, you meet with Lu Bu and the other officers once again. “Inspector Zhu, which officials do you wish to take?” Chen Gong asks as he looks upon a parchment. It seems you can request some officers to go under your command and be with you at Wu. It would be wise not to be too greedy and take all the talented officials however. The other territories will be needed them.
>>33903298We're at Friendly now. Couldn't expect much more.
>>33903310Taishi CiZhang LiaoGan NingGao ShunLingqiWang Can
>>33903310Cai Yong, Gu Yong, and Yu Fan
>>33903310Gan Ning, Song Xian.Do we need to choose administrators as well?
>>33903310Gan Ning and Gao ShunCai Yan and Yu FanBut most importantly Lu Linqi, as our wife.
>>33903310Gan NingGao ShuWang Can
>>33903310Wait military officials, civil officials, or both?
>>33902841People hate on sun ce because of the people who want to send creepy mail to him cause we are his rival. You know who else were rivals? Guan yu and Zhang liao. Sure Guan yu served wei for like a year but his love for Liu bei was too great to hold him forever. The same can be said for Sun ce's dream of conquest
>>33903310Zhang Hong.Lingqi.Gan Ning.Hou Cheng.
>>33903310Lingqi, Gao Shun, Cai Yan, Yu Fan, Wang Can, and one of the three Lts.
>>33903348I say we take Zhang Hong for the administrative stuff.
>>33903342This is too greedy. Hogging all the good generals.
I don't care who else goes as long as it's not like 6 people, but, Gan Ning is a must.
Gentlemen, we have to bring Wang Can and Gan Ning.Wang Can is our asshole and will not do well with anyone else and we need to take care of Gan Ning.
>>33903342>>33903354>>33903368We should let Lingqi make her own choice as to where to go. If we want to marry her we shouldn't have her be our direct subordinate.
>>33903342>It would be wise not to be too greedy and take all the talented officials however. Also, lol at trying to seperate lingqi from her father now that there is no campaign pretext
>>33903310I feel like we should keep Gao Shun at least. Wang CanLinqiYu FanAnd Gan NingThough I'm a bit worried about gao shun and gan ning being together. They don't seem like they'd get along well
>>33903310Gan Ning, Wang Can, Lingqi, Cai Yan,
We should grow a full beard to emulate Lu Bu, and encourage full, proper beards in our subordinates too.
>>33903310Gan Ning, Yu Fan, Cai Fan, and maybe LingqiYu Fan won't be able to work under anyone else because he's too blunt and Lu Bu will probably execute him for saying too much.
>>33903412Wang Can is not an asshole, he's Yan Jun's friend.Yu Fan is the huge asshole, our asshole.
>>33903310Yu FanGan NingFan NengCai YanZhang Liao
>>33903310Gao Shun, Song Xian, Yan Jun, Wang CanAsking for Lingqi to have a permanent assignment away from her father would look terrible!...Unless we marry her first! Let's pop the question before we leave.
I say we can give up Taishi Ci.
>>33903418It's not like we are ordering her to suck our cock.
>>33903310Yu FanGan NingCai YanGao Shun
>>33903310Yu Fan, Gao Shun, Fan Neng, Wang Can or Gu Young, Cai Yan, and maybe Lingqi depending on how she takes it.
>>33903436Zhang Liao has his own shit to manage.
>>33903310Take this moment also to ask for Lu Linqi's hand in marriage. Give a long speech about how our years of service together have made you fall in love with her, or some romantic crap like that.
>>33903418This is ancient China, wife's are supposed to be direct subordinates.
Reality check for everyone voting lingqi - this is, bar none, the absolute worst thing we could do for that relationship right now. She hasn't seen her father in over a year, and she's a huge daddies girl. If you want to continue pursuing her, this is the wrong way to go about it.
>>33903448It's obvious enough that we're interested to anyone who's looked. If we use this as a second excuse to have her next to us it could cause trouble. It'd be better to ask Lu Bu to court her directly so it doesn't look like we're being underhanded.
>>33903448is there a reason why we aren't
>>33903310Yu FanGan NingCai YanSong Xian
>>33903310Gan Ning for his skill as a warrior and posible admiral.Gu Yong for his administrative, same with Cai YongYu Fan for his honestyLingqi as well for her leadership, combat and other skills.Other choices if it isn't greedy is Taishi Ci and Song Xian
>>33903474This. Holy shit, people. Asking for her hand in marriage right now is a bad idea.
>>33903469She's going to hate us for that. Are you new to this or what?>>33903474We could just ask her if she wants to.
>>33903447We have 5 Elite Generals and Lu Bu himself. We have three territories.Ideally, we'd have two Elite generals in each territory. We should take one if we take Lingqi. We can't justify taking two elite guys and Lingqi. That makes the other territories too weak.
>>33903486Shut up Dong, sempai already thrust his halberd through your hu lao gates.
>>33903310I don't care who we take so long as it isn't Lingqi. Let her go with her father.Also, we need to take the asshole administrator and Gao Shun because they can help us be honorable and pragmatic.
>>33903474Agreed massively.>>33903310Raian, I suggest you ask if we want to lock in some choices.Then we can debate the remainder.
>>33903310Gan NingYu FanCai YanSong Xian
>>33903484The reason we don't make it official is because Lingqi would hate us on principle if we did. Better to make her love us before we do that.
>>33903310>>33903431 HereActually, we need to take Song Xian and Gao Shun instead of Lingqi
>>33903514I think Gan Ning should be locked in already.
>>33903474Really, if we wanted to marry lingqi, this is the perfect opportunity to formally ask her if we could court her. She'd no longer be under our direct command, so no impropriety, it fits her status as lu bu's heir, and it fit's lu bu's status as lord.
>>33903310>>33903519I can get down to this
>>33903486yes its a 7ft Halberd
>>33903532I think this is a good chance to take Gan Ning instead of Song Xian since they're techinically the same rank but one is much more competent than the other.
>>33903310Yu FanGan NingFan NengCai YanGao ShunAs much as I would like to add Lingqi to our retinue, we can't. One, she's our lord's daughter. Two, she hasn't seen her daddy in a year. Three, that would be against protocol and etiquette if we did carry out that idea.Best option is to be discrete and ask Fengxian in private about marrying Lingqi.
>>33903539Just saying some confirmation from Raian woud help speed up the process.
Gan Ning Cai YanYu FanThese three confirmed going then. Come to a consent on others.
>>33903474yeah this also whoever the asshole guy we recruited should come with us, if we don't take him he's dead in a week.
>>33903553>Best option is to be discrete and ask Fengxian in private about marrying Lingqi.No it isn't. Jesus christ people, Lingqi is not this hard to understand. Ask *her*. Trying to end run to Lu Bu is a terribad idea.
>>33903546Our relationship level with her would take a dive if we did something like that. And if we don't take her with us we can't even do something about it. She will spent her time with her father telling him she hates us and probably attack us the moment we come back.
>>33903310>>33903422Removing Linqi from my vote
>>33903310>>33903390Take out Lingqi and put in Gan Ning instead. Changing my vote.
We can ask Lingqi to marry us without having her join us immediately. It was common practice to wait for some time between the engagement and the marriage.
>>33903561Thanks Raian.Add Song Xian to the list, we need to help train scrub general.
>>33903561Song XianRaian, add the two Zhangs to the list of dudes in our force. I know we havent met them, but still. Pastebin is our only way to know who we have.
>>33903561Add Gu Yong.The two Zhangs can administer one province, Chen Gong, Yan Jun, and his BFF Wang Can can administer the third.
>>33903561I'm sad Gao Shun isn't on there
>>33903561Hou Chen, Song Xian
>>33903608Then ask to have him added. Those are just the consensus choices.
>>33903561I'll vote for Gao Shun to be added to that list.
>>33903561Song XianLingqi>>33903595>two ZhangsWe already have enough admins now.
>>33903561Song XianGu Yong
>>33903561Gu Yong is a strong adminster and we can use the hand there. Fan Neng can also be helpful so we can have 3 for admin, and 3 for army stuff without draining the officer core of it's best.
>>33903617Dont do that. Don't add Lingqi
>>33903561Wang Can or Gu Young, whichever one gets more popular support. Fan Neng
>>33903608He's too top tier sadly. That and him possibly not getting along with Gan Ning means its best to let someone else make use of his talents.
>>33903561I'll go with no Lingqi so long as we can get some opportunities in the near future to raise her affection level. We are so damn close
>>33903613I already voted and included him.
>>33903550Song XianGao ShunGao Shun is more moralistic than us and Song Xian is the mediocre general, but he's the only mediocre general that worked under us before, as to not poach all of the talent.
>>33903561How many districts are being created? We'd have a better idea of what is reasonable to ask for if we knew how many forces everyone had to be split between.
>>33903668I'm fairly sure it's 3.Jianye, Wu, and Hui JiHui Ji is the land we conquered, but we are being sent to Wu.
>>33903656Maybe... we can speak with her afterwards and ask her directly if she'd like to come with us to Wu. We won't make it an order.
>>33903561Let's just take Song Xian.Going by RTKXI we're splitting our officers between three territories, going by RTKX it's a four-way split.
>>33903674Then we should be able to pick up 2 more generals. Lets get Gao Shun and Fan Neng
Rolled 84>>33903679This, please.She's really way too cute, and these threads just wouldn't be the same if we didn't have our spaghetti flinging target around.
>>33903561Gao Shun, Fan Cheng, and Gu Yong
It's funny we're taking the most sharp tongued officers with us. If only we had another sharp tongued general Chen Gong would send us some wine for just ensuring they all stay away from Lu Bu.
Gu Yong so our cultured waifu can still see her guardian and his political ability
>>33903679I say we go for it. Lingqi's the type whom we should approach first before her father, and there's no telling when we'll get another chance after we leave.
>>33903679Sounds good.>>33903737All according to keikaku.TN: keikaku means plan
We should also speak to our brother about having him learn under some of the able administrators/strategists in the faction while we're gone. Unless the family will be coming with us to Wu.
Song Xian and Gu Yong confirmed.Gao Shun as well, unless any more strong objections.
>>33903737It doesn't help that we, as Zhu Xing, need blunt advice to get gud at tactics and strategy half the time.The other half of the time we're too busy coming up with overly-complicated plans like Tzeentch and the end result is a massive bucket of spaghetti everywhere.
>>33903776The family always comes with us I think. That was my secondary motivation in bringing Cai Yong.No Qiaos? Instant waifu.
>>33903778How many districts are there? if It's 3 i'm fine with taking gao shun, if it's 4 then i object.
>>33903778I'd only object if taking Gao Shun would be seen as greedy. I can't pass up having at least one stoic bro with us.
Isn't it incredible how one man can affect so much in this world?
>>33903778Gao Shun would be greedy and his character clashes with Gan Ning.
>>33903778I object, if it's seen as an over-concentration of forces.
>>33903778No objections unless there's more than 3 cities. Let's see Zhu Xing and Gao Shun as high ranking generals. Gan Ning and Song Xian as Lts. 3 Administraors.7 in total
>>33903778>Gu YongWhatOh dear.That should be enough I think.
Oh fuck, Gan Ning is going to kill Yu Fan, isn't he?
>>33903778Thats 5 out of 17 already. I think we're done unless we want to grab along another scrub general to train.
>>339038137 is one too many. Also we are second in command. It would look like we are incompetent if we need that much help.
>>33903832Probably not. If they get on each other's nerves we'll just have to separate them and talk it out.
>>33903778Eh, I was pro GAO shun but we have too many officers now. So I object to bringing Gao shun
We probably should have just asked how many officers and administrators we should take.
>>33903778We shouldn't take more than five, leave Gao Shun behind.
>>33903778I'd prefer to ditch song xian for gao shun
>>33903844As second in command that actually justifies taking more men. We have a lot of responsibilities and areas to oversee, it would be hubristic to disdain advisers and do it all ourselves. We have a large task ahead of us, and our position warrants men and women that can assist us.
I'd rather have left Gu Yong behind in exchange for another officer.
>>33903897We take one of 3 territories. Lu Bus is the most important and the third one is administrated by someone lower than us so we should need less people than they do.
>>33903913I think he's a package deal with Cai Yan.
Take Song Xian, leave Gao Shun behind.
Why don't we just take everybody and overthrow Lu Bu?
This voting method is terrible.
>>33903959Because then we couldn't serve under Lu Bu!
>>33903959Because Lu Bu is our bro and we want to bang his daughter.
>>33903959Get the fuck outta here
>>33903913We need more administrators than officers to be honest.
>>33903972In a bed made out of spaghetti.
>>33903959what's it like to be a filthy traitor
>>33903928We are also inspector and prefect of Wu. Our responsibilities are more than just managing a single territory.
>>33903972How can he call us his bro if we follow another mans dream?
"Let me first take General Gan. I am confident in his abilities, and I believe I can best make use of his abilities. I would also like Generals Gao Shun and Song Xian. For those that would work with me on civil matters, please allowed Lady Cai Yan and Sirs Yu Fan and Gu Yong to come along with me.""Very well," Chen Gong says scribbling things down. "The Two Zhangs shall govern Hui Ji... Why not allow Fan Neng to stay there as well... And let us see... General Taishi should hold no problem enforcing the law and taking care of any rebels. The rest shall stay with us. Hui Ji shall focus on development, the cities of Jian Ye and Wu shall focus on defending our lands."Chen Gong nods to himself, and carries out his papers as ordered. And with the stations filled out, you prepare to leave with your list of officers. And yet... A pang of desire makes you wish you could have brought Lingqi along. You felt like asking for her, but found yourself afraid that you would offend her. Should you at least try and ask Lingqi if she would like to follow?>Ask>Don't ask
>>33903992Feels benevolent.>>33903996We really should have asked about the intrigue shit if we are investigator.>>33903997Our dream is to bang his daughter not to become emperor.
>>33904010>>AskClever write-ins plsSpaghetti need not apply
>>33904010>AskTime to manifest spaghetti.
>>33904010>>AskTime to at least let her know that Zhu Xing loves her
>>33904010>>Askoh god what do we say?
>>33904038She still won't get it.
>>33904010>AskAsk, but don't explicitly ask. Just tell her you are leaving now and cast a longing gaze.
>>33904010>>AskAlso what's the general opinion of Linqi in the lands?
>>33904045That we are madly in love with her.
>>33904010Ask'You ever been to Wu? I heard they make amazing Spaghetti there. Through i doubt it tastes as good as you. Heh heh.'
>>33904010I think we shouldask her. And if we marrying her or something, switch her for gao shun
>>3390405410/10 qt 3.14
I wish we would have brought Gao Shun along so that he could be a good morality compass and also a good blitzkrieg attacker.
>>33904010>AskOnce more into the fray,
>>33904053>she thinks we have some sort of eye disease and worries about us
>>33904054Probably isn't much of one. People think she's weird most likely.
>>33904074We did bring Gao Shun along.
>>33904068I'd switch out Lingqi with Song Xian if that's the case.Song Xian was pro-looting and the Gan Ning, being an ex-pirate, is probably a little loose as well. Gao Shun's the strong moral compass we need to keep other officers in line.
>>33904010>>Ask Lingqi<mumble to self> "I am General Zhu Xing, General Who Manifests Might, Conquerer of the Southlands, Lord Inspector of Wu, and here I find myself completely and utterly terrified of asking a strong, bold, and beautiful woman a simple question..."
>>33904010>"You take care of yourself, my lady.">"y-you t-too, g-general"
>>33904107Gan Ning's a reformed pirate, though.Song Xian's a bit on the banditry side of things.But I agree that both could do with a bit of oversight.
>>33904128>the greatest romance of this era are two kids spaghetting over each otherMy sides
>>33904090>>33904088Oh, joyous day!
>>33904010>Ask"Lady Lingqi, I will be heading to oversee our defenses at Wu. I considered asking for you to assist me but I recall you weren't fond of administration, however should you wish to come you will be most welcome. Your presence is always a reassurance on and off the battlefield. If it's not to your tastes then I leave our lord in your and master Chen Gong's capable care."
>>33904224Don't be so formal talking to Lingqi. Just ask her if she wants to go or not. Jesus.
>>33904224A little too impersonal, maybe. We're trusted friends, now, after all
>>33904241It's funny because the only two people in Wu that don't know we're into Lingqi are Lingqi and Lu Bu.
>>33904128And then, without sound, Lu Bu peeks around the corner, strokes his campaign beard, waggles his eyebrows, and quietly vanishes. He need not do more, for the message was sent.
>>33904241>>33904247I tried to manifest spaghetti though.
>>33904261I laughed hard
>>33904271Nah, that's not manifesting spaghetti, that's just being boring.
As the other officers depart from the meeting, you wait on the hallways for Lingqi. It takes a bit of time, but you see her coming out soon enough. You quickly walk next to her, and take a few quick glances to make sure no one is around."Lingqi.""Yeah? What is it?"You rub your chin, slightly a bit nervous. Why was this woman of all people so hard to talk to?"I was wondering. We've done well together in the past, and I believe we can work together well again. Do you want to stay in Jian Ye? Or would you like to come with me to Wu?""Huh?" Lingqi says looking at you with a frown. "If you wanted me at Wu, why didn't you just ask at the council?""Well.. You got angry with me last time...""Oh." Lingqi slightly blushes, and she scratches her chin in response. "Yeah sorry about that. To be honest, I'm sort of embarrassed by that little outburst. Kind of make me feel stupid and petty thinking about it... Ugh." Lingqi scratches the back of her. "Well, if you really want, I wouldn't mind tagging along. But why do you want me there?">State it is because of her martial prowess and skill as a general>Confess your true feelings
>>33904261And behind lu bu is the rest of the 5000 people who have benn on the spaghetti.
>>33904271>Spaghetti>Not a declaration of love
>>33904290>Confess your true feelings
>>33904290>>Confess your true feelingsmaximum spaghetti
>>33904290>>Confess your true feelings
>>33904290confess your true feelingsGODDAMMIT IDDSS HABBEDING
>>33904290>State it is because of her martial prowess and skill as a generalPlease don't confess. The spaghetti will be unbearable.
>>33904290>Confess your true feelingsDon't fail us now, spaghettilord.
>>33904320No anon. You fell into raian's trap option. inb4 failure more scarring than chang an
>>33904321It will be deliciously cheesy and covered in a thick sauce.
>>33904290>State it is because of her martial prowess and skill as a general>Confess your true feelingsHey, they're both true.
>>33904290>>State it is because of her martial prowess and skill as a general>>Confess your true feelingsget ready to fight regardless
>>33904321It's too late. Why didn't you stop it?Don't call this tasty italian pasta. This is the future that you chose.
GUYS NOITS THE WRONG CHOICEDONT PRESS THAT BUTTON
>>33904258>MEANWHILE, AT THE SUN RESIDENCE>"Hey Bro, you got fanmail from that one guy trying to get in the pants of Lu Bu's daughter!"
>>33904290>>Confess your true feelingsThis will go badly.And she will likely refuse and flee but i think it needs to be said
>>33904345Is too late, comrade.It was always too late.
Oh boy, here we go. We're about to get our first stat decrease.
>>33904303>>33904306>>33904308>>33904312>>33904320Better make this a write-in Raian.
>>33904293They want to take part in the all you can eat Lu Family Spaghetti dinner. Enough there to feed a city.>>33904290Why not both? Half the reason we love her is because she is a good fighter among other things.
>>33904290confess your true feelings
I can't wait for Zhu Xing's spaghetti he's stored in his kettle to spew out all over the place when Lingqi bursts into treats
>>33904330>>33904336Yeah, this is as good a time to mention our feelings as any, we may not see her again for quite some time. Her marital prowess is also invaluable though.
>>33904290We confess, then a wall falls down and the other 99% of the entire province says "ABOUT GODDAMN TIME".>>ConfessSeriously, this is almost as lurid/ridiculous as an anime.
>>33904290It's happeningFriend-zone happenings
>>33904364Just tell her you want to make strong flying children with her.
>>33904363>kettlePLEASE TELL ME WE'VE GOT IT ON US RIGHT NOW
>>33904290>State it is because of her martial prowess and skill as a general>Confess your true feelingsBoth is best.
>>33904377the best part is i can see that happening
>>33904385What are we going to do with it? Panic and club her in the head with it?
>>33904346top kek>>33904377Also likely.>Chen Gong started a pool at the outset of the last campaign he's waiting for his horse to come in damn it!
>>33904290Invite her to our house for spaghetti dinner so we can use the power of our kettle.
>>33904398No no, we'd panic, try to club her head in but miss because spaghetti. We'd end up clubbing lu bu.
>>33904398Fill it with our tears.
>>33904398This may honestly be the best way to confess to Lingqi.
>>33904414This thread will be epic when she shuts us down in the next update.
>>33904398that's what general zhu xing was known for in history, assaulting people involuntarily with his kettles
Fucking Raian and his traps. And we are supposed to be an investigator now.
>>33904437And then I await a housecall from a laughing Lu Bu holding a bottle of wine.
>>33904449We are the best spaghetti investigator.
>>33904437Everyone's expecting it, though.
>>33904449No, anon. We are going to be the incompetent police chief. Gao Shun is the veteran who's too old for this shit. Gan Ning is the promising rookie. Song Xian is the corrupt cop comic relief. Yu Fan is the sassy secretary
>>33904453>oh, lu bu sempai...[Good End]
>>33904290I haven't seen this much freaking out since Thread 1 when that one awesome anon rolled that 92 to get us to serve under Lu Bu.>ConfessIncoming General Who Manifests Spaghetti!
>>33904471Yup.Its abit of a poor decision.But its IC.
>>33904438'On Lu Bu's side stood Zhu Xing, General Who Manifests Might. And in his hands was his trusted weapon, a supposedly magic kettle. And in his pockets there were Spaghetti, spilling forth across the lands of China.'
>>33904474who's Lu bu?
>>33904482I haven't rolled above a 54 since that 92 roll.
>>33904495Mayor. About to kick our ass.
>>33904487It is said that with this kettle, he slayed the bragart Guan Yu in combat. He later became known as the God of War.. and noodles.
>>33904495The Mayor, With Chen Gong as the Mayor's aide.
>>33904495The Action Movie Star Turned Mayor, we are his biggest campaign supporter
>>33904482Man, it's hard to believe how far that roll and picking the fight with that guy in camp has gotten us.
>>33904514It is said that alongside Genral Cao's chicken, Genreal Zhu's noodles are top notch.
>>33904514He died drowning in meatball sauce, entangled in his own Spaghetti.
>>33904495The tough cop who doesn't play by the rules, every case ends up with zhu Xing calling him a loose cannon.
>Zhu Xing, or Zhu Gong>Patron saint of Noodle stall owners all over china
Y'know, if this blows up in our face, we could always pick up drinking.
>>33904537>We are best remembered as a tasty, if unhealthy, noodle treatOur legacy is glorious.
>>33904562It IS going to blow up in our face.No question of that.
>>33904544That would be Lingqi. Also she always gets asked why she isn't suing our ass for sexual harassment. She's always left wondering what sexual harassment they ment since she didnt notice.
>>33904537Nb4 zhu Xing invents lo mein
>>33904562>ifIt's like you haven't read any of Raian's updates.
>>33904577This moment will be known as the critical moment where Lu Bus rise to power failed.
>>33904584>>33904577Sooo, people here drink rice wine?
>>33904609Yes, but we drink spaghetti sauce mixed with tea from the Kettle of Sacred Tears.
>>33904609I thought that was more a Japan thing.
>>33904599>lingqi spurns us>we go and shack up with Sun Ce>lead him to becoming emperor of china
>>33904629Many different types of wine. Plum, rice, snake, tiger.
>>33904629No rice wine is pretty widespread in east asia
>>33904599In 194, General Zhu Xing failed to defeat General Lu Lingqi at the battle of spaghetti, marking the begining of the end for Lu By's forces.
Roll 1d100. Anything less than 90, and Lingqi cuts your dick off and game ends here.Just kidding."Well to be honest... How can I put it without making a full of myself..." Lingqi looks at you with a brow raised. Your clear your throat."I've grown quite fond of you Lingqi. I was hoping we could get to know one another better. I would be happy, and content, if I could know you would be my side. Not just for our future battles, but for our daily lives."...There is a bit of silence, and Lingqi stares at you absentmindedly for a while. After a few seconds pass by, she flushes and raises hands midair."W-Wait a minute... What? Did you just... What... Damn it be all!"Lingqi fumbles on her response. Before she can reply, the sound of footsteps in the air being both of you to a stop. Lu Bu comes out of the council room."Ahh..." he says with a smile seeing you both, and coming alongside you both. "Are you two getting along well? I have heard you distinguished great service on your campaigns.""Uhh... Yes, about that Father," Lingqi says stammering a bit. Lu Bu looks back with an odd looks."I was hoping I could head over to Wu. I think my skills would best serve over there, since you already have Masters Chen Gong and Zhang Liao by your side. Would it be fine for me to be there?""Hm? Of course. I think I have given up long ago on reigning you in," Lu Bu replies with a slight sigh. "Do whatever you wish. I am certain you would do well leading your men with Zhu Xing."
>>33904688One side effect of this crushing loss was the development of modern day lo mein in the aftermath.
Rolled 26>>33904700Window Boy!
>>33904700Lu Bu laughs, and pats you on the shoulder as he walks away out of the hallway. Lingqi takes a breath of air once her father is gone, and looks back at you with a sigh."...You. What... Do you exactly like about me?""Everything," you respond with a serious look. "Your ability to fight. Your bravery. The fact that you decide to fight in a men's world. Your guarded, hard exterior, but your kindness deep inside. And I think you beautiful as well.”“U-Uhh...” Lingqi spits out, gritting her teeth in terrible embarrassment.“You're some kind of dumbass. But I... I can't really say no after all the things you spewed to me just now, can I?” she responds, scratching the back of her head. “Yeah... Fine. We can see how things work out together. I uhh... I'll promise to do my best not to be a nuisance.B-But nothing serious like marriage okay!? Not yet!”You nod, and you hold her for a while in the hallway.
>>33904700...Wait WHATTHAT ACTUALLY WORKED?
Rolled 13>>33904700My dick
Rolled 90>>33904700May the Earth, Heavens, and People all bless this roll!
Rolled 39>>33904700>actually succeeding
>>33904700PRAISE THE KETTLE!
>>33904714I did not expect this.
>>33904715Yeah. I mean, it was to be expected.
>>33904722It was a joke anon. You wasted a 90 on a joke.
>>33904700>>33904714WHERE DO YOU LIVEWHERE CAN I SUCK YOUR DICK>>33904722SAME AS ABOVE
>>33904722We actually would have won even with that fake condition. Truly this coupling is blessed.
>>33904736>inb4 it wasn't a joke
>>33904700>>33904722The dice gods have a sense of humor today too.
>>33904722HOLY SHIT WE MADE THE ROLL TOO
>>33904700The spaghetti flowsLike ever raging riverLu Bu Already knows
Rolled 31>>33904700>>33904714Does Lu Bu know? Does he know he's going to become Papa Bu?
Rolled 27>>33904722THIS UNION IS PLEASED BY HEAVEN & KETTLE!PRAISE IT FAGGOTS!
>>33904736When someone says, "Roll at least a 90 or your dick's getting cut off," I do no stop to read spoilers.
Today is a glorious day.I will drink to the couple tonight when I get off work.
>Lu Bu doesn't have a clue>everyone things he does>he just laughs it off whenever someone makes a reference to us and Lingqi>we come back after a year>Lingqi is pregnant>IT'S TIME TO DUEL
Next hurdle: we have to explain how sex works to Lingqi>and then I just j-jam it in!
>>33904771>tfw Dian Wei kills us and Cao Cao steals Lingqi and fucks her
Lu Bu ranked up in INT and CHA by magnitudes in the southern campaign. Maybe Lead too. He doesn't seem nearly as brash and young as he did before he set off.>Chances of Lu Bu victory intensify.
>>33904794Our good buddy Jia Xu might have something to say about that.
>>33904794Remember what Guan Yu did to Lu Meng? Yeah, that's us and Cao Cao, except with more spaghetti and bashing heads with lacquered kettles.
>>33904806Beard is ultimate stat bonus.
>>33904792Oh boy. 'What's that between your legs? Oh wait my father had that too, only bigger!'
>>33904803Honestly if our sister's husband dies I want to give her to Cao Cao.
You arrive at the city of Wu. The city seems regular, not as rich as Jian Ye or Jing province. It seems there is much work to be done, in improving the markets and farmlands. You are in command of 5000 soldiers, who are still green and a bunch of recruits. You need to make sure to train them and raise more troops for future battles and campaigns. For now, there is no set goal, but Chen Gong informed you that Wu should focus on raising some troops and focusing on battles. It is likely for this reason that you were assigned at Wu, since it is close to the mainland and Yuan Shu's forces.It is the Fall of 195. You should begin your task soon...City: WuAdministrator: Zhu XingDefenses: 40/100Safety: 50/100Support: 40/100Markets: 40/100Farmlands: 40/100Troops: 5000Training: GreenEquipment: 1000 horsesGold: 3000Food: 4000Officers: Gan Ning, Lu Lingqi, Gao Shun, Song Xian, Cai Yan, Gu Yong, Yu Fan(Rules and stuff following)
>>33904818>>33904818-15 to all stats
>>33904806Yeah, definitely. Things are going too well, something horrible is going to happen
>>33904832Here are the following actions you may take:>>>Train a stat (choose)>>>Visit an officer (choose, people outside your city and within your own force is fine, Cha/Pol)>>>Search for a talented officer (Cha/Pol)>>>Build defenses ( Int)>>>Raise safety (War)>>>Raise support (Cha/Pol)>>>Improve Markets (Pol)>>>Improve Farmlands (Pol)>>>Recruit troops (Cha)>>>Train troops (Lea)>>>Gather intelligence on enemy (Choose what type of information you are seeking and on who, Int)>>>(Write-in action, though try to refrain from doing this too much)>>>Buy your own equipment (Will not take a turn)>>>Buy your army equipment (Will not take a turn)>>Improved Spears: 1 gold for 5>>Improved Armor: 1 gold for 5>>Strong Crossbows: 1 gold for 5>>Horses: 1 gold for 5>>Catapult: 100 gold for 1>>Siege Rams: 100 gold for 1>>Siege Towers>>Ballista: 100 gold for 1>>Warships: 100 gold for 1http://pastebin.com/BSVQuD83 <--- All the information you need for kingdom stuff.The important things to note are that 1 turn of action takes 1 month. You are given an income of food/gold every three months based on Pol stat and the obvious city stats. Your troops must be paid and fed #/10 every three months which I will automatically add/deduct. Officers are paid 50 gold every three months and can take one city action or you may make them train on something (Stats will not be given because it furthers meta, but a generalized detail of their skills will be given if requested) No, you may not embezzle money, but you may add your own money to the treasury if you so wish. To move things along further, we can do three actions three months. I need 6 rolls for these three months. On request, we can do actions slower or faster.15 mins of Q/A on kingdom building, and discuss amongst yourselves before we actually begin kingdom building. You are starting on the 7 month, Fall.
>>33904837If we let Cao Cao best Yuan Shao we can practically kiss goodbye to victory.
>mfw confessing actually got us another great general without looking greedy in front of the court
My hundreds of hours spent on RoTK games will save us in this section, all you need to do is get good dice rolls!
Rolled 48>>33904837 Liu/Sun Alliance happens Cao Cao NTR happens Benevolence >>33904848>Buy your own equipment (Will not take a turn)>Buy your army equipment (Will not take a turn)>Improve Farmlands (Pol)
>>33904848Can we order the officers under our command to do things? Like tell Gan Ning to train the troops for a month while we work on the farmland?
>>33904848How do some of our administrators and officers help out?
>>33904848>>>Search for a talented officer (Cha/Pol)>>>Visit an officer (choose, people outside your city and within your own force is fine, Cha/Pol)(Lingqi)>>>Buy your own equipment (Will not take a turn)The book that makes this easier>>>Improve Markets (Pol)Markets = More gold Gold = Money to buy food
>>33904848>>Improve Markets for Gold Income>>Improve Farmlands for Food SuppliesPrioritize those two so we can get a solid foundation.And now we're playing RoTK 11.
>>33904848Why do these scrubs get as much money as Zhu Xing, the General who manifests spaghetti? Do we share land border with Yuan Shu and other lords? Or is it all Yellow River? Can we tell our administrators to do the Pol stuff instead? We are not so hot at those.
>>33904848>>339048325000 tropps is very little isn't it.
>>33904848Can we delegate certain actions to administrators and the like?Do we still have personal finances we can spend from and do we still make our personal salary?
>>33904832So my priorities given those stats are (in no particular order)Get at least 10k troops, with 2k cavalryimprove defenses, safety, farmlandshave song xian train LDR, make one our administrators the actual administrator of the city because they have much higher POL statsSearch for talented officers.We might want to start with improving lands and infrastructure for the first 3 months.
>>33904848Will our officers be doing their own thing while we focus on a task?Or do we need to whip these lazy bastards into shape?
>>33904848Do all these actions take our own stats or can we send our officers to do it?
>>33904848Raian, can we get the stats of the officers under our command?
>>33904848Alright first thing lets get our economy and support up. We will need food, gold and trust to hold this place.I'm thinking these in order. If we can get a boost to Pol from our officers this will work well. >>>Raise support (Cha/Pol)>>>Improve Markets (Pol)>>>Improve Farmlands (Pol)
i wish we could have sided with cao cao so we could have help fulfill his dream of being able to fuck every married woman in the land
>>33904891It's in the pastebin, the administrator of the city is whose POL counts. Currently, we're in charge. This needs to change.
>>33904893Gu Yong should be the administrator, Cai Yan and Yu Fan as his main assistants.Yu Fan is far too abrasive to be the main administrator. Gu Yong's gentle nature will be much more valauble as the lead administrator.
>>33904901He said no to exact stats, because of meta, but he may give general description.
It would help if we had the stats of our officers on hand.
Listen guys, we should hold off a little on fixing the economy so that people looking for a better life can be drafted into the army.
>>33904876This seems balanced enough, we also should check in with Lingqi about how she's feeling, then we can go onto doing it with the rest.ALSO, ANY REPLY FROM SUN CE?
>>33904872Yes. As stated, one action for them every three months.>>33904873See above.>>33904880Yes, you border Yuan Shu. Chang Jian river divides you however. Above.>>33904891Above.>>33904897They all will be doing general things like patrolling, paperwork, etc. Improvements, you command them.Niggas, please read rules before asking.
>>33904848Our current expenditures:500 gold for our troops every 3 months350 gold for our officers every 3 months._______850 gold every 3 months500 food every 3 months
>>33904927Messages take a long time.
>>33904848>>>Buy your own equipment (Will not take a turn)>>>Buy your army equipment (Will not take a turn)Improved armor x 5000Make one of the admins officially the admin.Could you show us our Officers stats?
>>33904929So a plan like:Month1Zhu Xing: Build DefensesGan Ning : Raise SafetyLu Lingqi : Gao Shun : Train Troops Song Xian : Train LDRCai Yan : Recruit TroopsGu Yong: Improve supportYu Fan: Improve FarmlandsWould be how you want this layed out?
>>33904876>>33904877>>33904893>>33904903Since each of our officers can take a city action, let's not have Zhu Xing personally do anything that involves Pol besides Searching for a Talented Officer.Zhu Xing should raise safety or train troops. Our administrators should definitely improve our economy though.
>>33904929It'd REALLY help if we knew the relative strengths of our officers.
>>33904848We need city stats in a pastebin. Either the pastebin or a new one.
Rolled 51>>33904994Nigga read the character pastebin>>33905000Seconding
>>33904989I second this.
>>33904989We should REALLY search for talented officers though, best goddamn idea right now
>>33904848Lord Gu Yong is immediately in charge of administration. 100 Pol after all.Lingqi:Raise Safety (War)Gan Ning:Recruit Troops (Cha)Song Xian/Gao Shun:Train Troops (Lea)Cai Yan/Zhu Yang:Raise support (Cha/Pol)Yu Fan:Improve Farmlands (Pol)Zhu Xing:Search for a talented officer (Cha/Pol)This is my idea for our distribution of work.If we can get more generals, we can get more done.
>>33904980On of them should become the official administrator. Let Lingqi train the troops. Gao Shun should raise safety since he should be popular with the civilians.
>>33904980Yes. And three of your own actions. You do 1 action a month, officers do 1 action every three months. I'm going to try and do three months an update, but that can be lowered or raised depending on how things go. Events may happen, etc. I need 6 rolls if you are doing the 3 month an update.
>>33904832>>33904848>>Markets: 40/100According to the pastebin, that means we only get 40 gold every three months. That can't be right, can it?
Yu Fan is higher rank. He should be admin. And he's abrasive to those above him, but that doesn't necessarily mean his pol is low especially to underlings.
Our first priority is to start recruiting troops and raising support. Our administrators will focus on improving the farmlands and markets, while our generals will help raise safety and train the troops. There, I propose:>Yu Fan: Make administrator>Zhu Xing: Build defenses>Gan Ning: Raise safety>Lu Lingqi: Recruit troops>Gao Shun: Train troops>Song Xian: Recruit troops>Cai Yan: Raise support>Gu Yong: Improve farmlands
>>33904989We yeah best Pol should run the city. We can do the war actions and probably the training. >>33905011We got good people right now we need to work on making more money and food. Then we train to fight.
>>33905012Honestly I think we should have Gu Yong search WITH us, at this first venture. That way we can really get someone good
>>33905012Add in Gu Yong to 'Improve Markets' and we'll make use of everyone.
>>33905019Officers taking one action every three months is ridiculously stupid. Unless they are getting shit done three times as hard as one of our action that is crazy
>>33905012Who builds defense? Also we get 3 actions.
>>33904848For the first three crucial months, we should raise safety, train troops, and build up defenses in case of war.Cai Yan can help increase support, Linqui with safety, Gu Yong On the markets, Yu Fan the Farms, Gan Ning for troop training, and Song Xian for safety as well. A strong core is needed for our army, and Gan Ning could do well in teaching them how to handle naval battles. If we get some good men, we can gear them up properly with good quality armor, spears and horses.
>>33905012We need two more Zhu Xing actions, those look fine otherwise though.Add a social visit (Lingqi or Gao Shun for marriage to sister), and WAR or LDR related action.
>>33905044We get three actions. I say Raise Safety, and Improve markets added to that.
>>33905049That is a good point.
>>33905046agreed, we need to make a solid foundation here first. Yuan Shu got pretty bloodied and should be cautious about attacking with Lu Bu back from his campaign. Now's the best time to focus on infrastructure. Once we've got that laid down we can start whipping our troops and defenses into shape.
>>33905012>>33905044>>33905059Can we buy few warships as well? (5 to start?) We really need to start training our soldiers not to be scrubs at naval combat.We border the Yellow River
>>33905012Needs defense.Also we need to agree on our shopping list.
Rolled 75>>33905060can I suggest we save the sister till we confirm Sun ce's marital status, getting in on that could be a boon for us.
>>33905060I'd say make sure our injury isn't going to get worse. Getting stabbed in the stomach isn't too fun.
GUYSIF WE GRAB MORE OFFICERS THAT MEANS MORE ACTIONSTHAT AND PEOPLE, LIKE REALLY GOOD PEOPLE, LU SU, LU MENG, ETCTHEY ALL LIVE HERE
>>33905056I say we do that ourselves as one of the other actions for the 3 actions
>>33904848Zhu Xing: Build Defenses, Search for Talented x2Gan Ning : Train TroopsLu Lingqi : Raise SafetyGao Shun : Train TroopsSong Xian : Train LDRCai Yan : Recruit TroopsGu Yong: Improve supportYu Fan: Improve Farmlands
>>33905100Change farmlands to markets and you have a deal
>>33905094Let's also remember that each new officer costs 50 gold per month. Not a lot, but it should be a reminder that we can't neglect our economy
>>33904848>>33905012This is good.Add in, also for Zhu Xing:Visit LingqiBuild Defences (Int)
>>33905122Works for me, I just want infrastructure worked on.
>>33905100>no admin>no markets
>>33904848First, we delegate administration to Gu Yong.Improve markets and farmland with Zhu Yang and Yu Fan. Raise Support with Cai YanTrain troops with Gan NingRaise safety with Lingqi Recruit Troops with Song XianFirst month: Build DefensesSecond month: Improve MarketsThird Month: Search for a Talented Officer
>>33905127Gold > FoodWe can buy food, and with Gu Yong we'll get a fucking great price too
>>33905153What admin actions are you talking about?
>>33905154You forgot Gao SHun.
>>33904848Is it possible to raise officer relations by tasking ourselves to a task alongside that officer?
>>33905154I get the feeling the Gan Ning has a better char score than Song Xian, how with his troops more willing to following him anywhere.I'd suggest swapping Gan Ning and Song Xian.
How the fuck are we going to vote on this with so many plans flying about? Also warships? It doesn't cost a turn and it would be nice to get our troops trained early. Let's not let our army embarrass themselves in front of Cai Mao and Huang Zu again.
>>33905167The administrative position.
>>33905175>tasking ourselves to a taskY-you know what I mean.
First priority should be to get the troops trained and equipped.Zhu Xing: Recruit Trooops, Build Defenses, Train TroopsGan Ning: Build DefensesLu Lingqi: Raise SafetyGao Shun: Train TroopsSong Xian: Train LDRCai Yan: Raise SupportGu Yong: Make AdministratorYu Fan: Improve MarketsBuy Improved armor for all our soldiers, and 1000 horses.
>>33905184Oh, give that to Gu Yong
Rolled 90>>33905155and if we are embargoed or they refuse to trade or there is a famine?
>>33905178Let's agree on tasks first and look at shopping list after Raian locked it in.
>>33905012>>33905044>>33905100>>33905154>>33905192So these are the 5 plans right now unless I missed any.Should we look at finalizing one of these plans so we can move on?
>>33905178>How the fuck are we going to vote on this with so many plans flying about?I'm wondering this myself. Also Raian, can you make sure all the information you posted is included in a pastebin? Those two posts are pretty important, and city stats should be kept in a pastebin same as characters stats.
How useful would a cavalry heavy force be? It'd take 800 gold to upgrade our entire force to cavalry, which seems relatively cheap all things considered.
>>33905210The first two plans are incomplete. They only have one Zhu Xing action.>>33905100>>33905154>>33905192Those seem to be the three "complete" plans right now.
>>33905210>>33905154I'll go with this one, if we can buy two warships so Gan Ning can train our troops to be able to perform as well at sea as on land.
>>33905220We need to be able to defend our waters as well and Calvary doesn't do so well on water if I remember correctly
>>33905210Gu Yong - AdminLingqi - Safetyseems to be agreed on>>33905220Let's just do that with 1500-2000 of them and give em to Gao Shun.
>>33905220We need to train the men to fight first. Riding is a luxury skill at this point.
>>33905210Addition to the first plan was:Visit Lingqi and Improve Defences
>>33905230I think we may want to try every possible action this time, to see how effective each is. That way we can make more informed decisions in the next 3 month turn
>>33905216Personally, I'd rather just do what I usually do in RoTK11.Call a council, have the strategist lead the meeting and execute all of the plans offered by the council. 9 times out of 10, the plans are sound (though the construction layout is arsed and stupid) and usually executed in the same method that players use.That said, I believe voting should be executed in phases instead of everyone just going BLEH and dumping their ideas like a bucket of slime all over their nana's living room floor.
>>33905230well...>>33905100has no admin>>33905154has no Gao Shun
>>33905154I'm voting for this with Gao Shun helping where he can.
>>33905235I am ok with this. If Gu Yong is still free for an action, having him build up support is a good idea as well.
>>33905210Well, the majority wants Lingqi to raise safety, so that's a lock. >>33905154 here and I forgot Gao Shun under train troops. Also, switch Gang Ning to Recruit troops and have Song Xian build defenses.
Gentlemen, we need to hold off buying the equipment first.Troops: 5000/10 = 500 Gold per 3 monthsOfficer: 7 x 50 = 350 Gold per 3 monthsIncome: 40 Gold per 3 MonthsHow in the fuck is this sustainable.
>>33905278I don't think markets are a 1:1 with gold earned per 3We really need to just use every action with someone who isn't terrible with the requisiite stat so we know how much each action does.
>>33905275Wait, we need naval capabilities, Gang Ning needs to train the troops and Gao Shun needs to recruit troops.
>>33905278You don't get 40 gold per month you stupid fuck. All the pastebin says is that the market level decides how much gold you get.
>>33905278I'm pretty sure we aren't getting 40 gold per month. That's just 40/100 max development.
>>33905278Yeah! RAIAN, GIVE US BACK OUR PREVIOUS WAGES, JUST MAKE EVERYTHING IN THE STORE MORE COSTLY!
>>33905210Second plan anon, I say go with >>33905067and add Raise safety and Improve markets to Zhu Xing.
>>33905298Then lets see how much gold we get per 3 months before we decide to splurge
>>33904848Administrator: Gu YongZhu Xing: Build Defenses, Search for Talent x2Gan Ning : Recruit TroopsLu Lingqi : Raise SafetyGao Shun : Train TroopsSong Xian : Train LDRCai Yan : Improve MarketsGu Yong: Raise supportYu Fan: Improve FarmlandsThat hits every action at least once.
>>33905278>You are given an income of food/gold every three months based on Pol stat and the obvious city stats.Multiple things factor in to how much money we get. We should focus on improving markets soon though yes.
We are wasting too much quest time on this process. The quest only runs us for 6-7 hour a week. I vote for whatever plan is getting the most support right now so we can move on. I'm sure any plan that gets decent amount of popular support won't be batshit crazy.
>>33905316Improve markets is PolYou're giving a Pol action to Zhu Xing?
>>33905321I'll go with this.
>>33905317We can at least buy our own shit. And better armor is a must.
>>33905321Supporting, we can do purchase later.
>>33905012>>33905249I vote this
Gu Yong: Market, administrationYu Fan: FarmCai Yan: SupportGan Ning: Train troopsGao Shun: Train troopsSong Xian: Recruit troopsLingqi: SafetyZhu Xing: Raise defense, Search for talent, Visit LingqiAre you guys fine with this? If so, we move on. If not, tell me what change you want.
>>33905337Honestly we don't have enough admins.
>>33905352Yes, yes, fine with it.
>>33905352Switch Gan Ning to recruit troops, Song Xian is our weakest general right now, have him train his LDR
>>33905352Can you give us the shopping lists?
>>33905352Can we assign our younger bro to improve support as well?As fluff even if it doesn't do anything mechanically.Get them to know each other and learn.
>>33905337It's undesirable, but we need to raise markets as fast as we can before recruiting other people, which means spending at least 1 action on that. After having a solid base, we can get more administrators to automatically improve our markets or farmland, whichever one is more needed.
>>33905352honestly, as long as you dont fuck us for not being super strategist here becaues, y'know, this is a clusterfuck.
>>33905354Then it's a good thing we are in a military city, huh?
>>33905352Raian, I think you should add a general description of each officer's abilities to the pastebin. It's too tempting to just check each officer's stats in RTKXI.Also, swap Gan Ning and Song Xian.
>>33905352This is good
>>33905365This>>33905369and yeah having younger bro be more involved in things sounds good. I doubt managing the clan takes that much time now.
>>33905352Change the Lingqi visit with improving markets.
>>33905392Is our brother even here?
>>33905352This is fine let's go.
How can we make this process cleaner for next time?Maybe it would be better to make this a bit more macro?Like telling the administrators as a group to prioritize A, B, and C. And telling the generals as a group to prioritize D, E, and F?Just having 3 groups (Administrators, Generals, and Zhu Xing) could cut down a lot of the clusterfuck while preserving our choices.
>>33905404Lingqi visit improves Cha. We need that.
>>33905352lets not visit lingqi yet, but instead work on markets
>>33905352Good enough, let's proceed
Rolled 48>>33905352I assume we start the 6d100s.
>>33905420We could just say "Assign the best suited officers to the various tasks focus on Military or Infrastructure" and then make specific write ins for having officers improve their stats instead of doing another task. Then write in Zhu Xings 3 actions and any purchases.
Rolled 66>>33905352At this point I just want to get this moving, so rolling dice. Whatever changes you do to those orders is fine by me
>>33905426Agreed, let's work on the markets first so we have money available.An idea occured to me; Maybe once we have well trained troops, we can use the river and some warships to do some major trading with the other cities to improve our Trade and give our troops some training?
Rolled 1>>33905352This is fine.Rolling, because we need to continue
>>33905420It's kinda iffy. On one hand, we have officers that specialize in certain things that are not apparent with just grouping them together, such as Gan Ning with naval battles. On the other, this was a clusterfuck.
Rolled 59>>33905352Move on for the love of god please
>>33905458Well, I would like a bit more control over the officers than that though.Maybe give them priorities? Priorities on building infrastructure would make it up go faster, while popular support would only go up little in comparison.
Rolled 84Let's go
>>33905489Spaghetti. Spaghetti everywhere.
>>33905489Thankfully, I think raian means for three of us to roll 6d100
>>33905457>>33905472>>33905485>>33905489I hope Rain takes these just so you impatient asses fuck things up and the rest of us can laugh at you.
>>33905521>impatient>nothing but useless bickering for the last half hour>page 9uh huh.
Rolled 47, 97, 60, 45, 100, 7 = 356>>33905518Alright, lets give it a shot then.
>>33905521We haven't even agreed on the shopping yet.
>>33905521You alright there man? It was even said in the first post we needed 6d100s >>33904848
Needs a new thread.
Rolled 95>>33905531>100Wowie, pretty scary
>>33905530Raian can always make a new thread if he needs to.
Rolled 72, 44, 39, 76, 89, 53 = 373>>33905531In that case...
I think this might work.We split the officers/administrators and the jobs into differing pools.Unless otherwise tasked to the Special Duties pool, the leaders go into either their civil or military duties pool.Tasks are the divided as such:Civil:>>>Raise support (Cha/Pol)>>>Improve Markets (Pol)>>>Improve Farmlands (Pol)Military:>>>Build defenses ( Int)>>>Raise safety (War)>>>Recruit troops (Cha)>>>Train troops (Lea)>>>Gather intelligence on enemy (Choose what type of information you are seeking and on who, Int)Others:>>>Train a stat (choose)>>>Visit an officer (choose, people outside your city and within your own force is fine, Cha/Pol)>>>Search for a talented officer (Cha/Pol)>>>(Write-in action, though try to refrain from doing this too much)And the we assign piriority for civil and military projects by 1, 2, 3, etc.
>>33905556Recruit troops should be in the Civil pool as well, administrators can recruit troops as well since it's a CHA based skil-set.
Alright. Looking over how much discussion was needed just to do this, and seeing as how I am expecting to do this for a year's worth of game time, we are going to simplify these procedures. The procedure I made would be great and fine if I was just working with one guy doing all the actions, but with like 10 other people, it's going to be disastrously long and boring runs with people arguing and getting angry. Number crunching will also make things last much too longer.Every officer is going to be expected to do typical jobs: generals are patrolling and training, admins are doing paperwork and the like. Instead we'll pass the time like we did back when serving Dong Zhuo, with monthly turns and just a general description of what's going on with the city (The markets are average, the people are angry, etc etc [This is just an example, not how Wu is])Officer events, city events, and the like to keep things up. Zhu Xing gets to do free-form actions based on what he thinks is most needed at the moment.Is this fine? We're going to use this thread to discuss, and I will run another session tomorrow. I think things have transpired enough to warrant a thread end anyway.
>>33905548He can, but he never has and I doubt he will. Plus, the bickering we have is pointless. We have no idea how effective any of these actions will be, so any plans are at best guesses. Just get this started so we can see how things go and make informed decisions next turn.
Rolled 84>>33905593>I will run another session tomorrowYES THANK YOU BASED RAIAN!
>>33905593Thats fine to->thread tmrHYYYYPE
Rolled 69, 65, 84, 4, 9, 71 = 302>>33905593Just tell us when and what to rollan, ok?
>>33905593So the town will just upgrade over time, with us affecting special events that modify that steady upgrade?
Rolled 83>>33905593>another session tomorrow.BasedAlso nice system
>>33905593I think that's a good solution. Full length thread tomorrow? Same time as always?
>>33905593>I will run another session tomorrow
>>33905593>another session tomorrowWow. This hasn't happened since the first 4 threads.Welp, gives you more time to hammer out a more simplified and streamlined version for multiplay as opposed to single players.
>>33905593Raian, its a great idea. If you ever run a three kingdoms tabletop with your friends, use that system. But you gotta understand. Majority vote for three actions of our guy, 7 miscellaneous officers rolls for all of them and then also the purchasing of equipment. Its too much for tg without an outside aide like strawpoll or something.
>>33905593At least give us some leeway, some projects that we can designate for special attention to focus on them.We also need opportunities to dip into the city fund for our own personal expenses. hue.
>>33905593Truth be told I was excited for this phase, but yeah it seems it'll grind to a slog if we do this every time.It be cool if the most appropriate officers were assumed to be doing duties as listed here and improved the city every three months. Just remove player involvement from that end besides getting new officers etc.I'm fine with switching back to how it was during Dong Days. Maybe we'll get another kettle.
>>33905593Is it Q & A time?How did we do?Did we steal away too much talent from the other cities?
Rolled 19, 28, 99, 1, 46, 46 = 239>>33905593Well, thats alright in a way. It does make things easier, but perhaps a bit of preference in certain actions can be allowed along with using some officers for special actions? Like a personal city watch or the like? Can only bring two other officers with us for said action and they are used up for 3 months.
>>33905593Sounds good, Maybe let us set a over all goal every 3 months.
>>33905593>>33905556This is probably the best way of going at it but have gather information be in the civil pool to even the importance of each main pool.
>>33905593Q/A?What would have happened if we'd told Lingqi that we wanted her along for her prowess and stuff?
>>33905593Yeah I'm good with this. There are too many people in this thread to repeat this multiple times. Yay, thread tomorrow.
>>33905593Good solution. Might want to add a focus for the officers. Like focus on military, focus on domestics, or balanced. And then three special actions for us.
Rolled 14>>33905593Raian take some advice from someone who saw Nazi's in fantasyland die a slow & painful death.SIMPLIFY THE HELL OUT OF THIS OR THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN
>>33905593Could we also have a "City Objective" like they do in ROTK 10? I think micromanaging all the officers is too much for /tg/, but returning to just Zhu Xing being Zhu Xing doesn't give enough gravitas to our position.The officers will do their own thing, but they could spend more time on things.For example: Civil: Focus on Markets/Farms, Military: Focus more on training
>>33905593>if you do first response, no bickering just regret
>>33905593Unrelated but did we get any stat ups for this session? Or stat decreases
>>33905593I feel that this will be better. We honestly don't run often enough for this to be viable.I am honestly having a difficult time processing all this information
>>33905596My problem is I'm not a NEET, which I would love to be but cannot. Work + Quest is already 12 hours off a day. Other general activities also interfere. >>33905619Yes.>>33905657Did fine on interactions. As with previous thread advice given by Wang Can, a lot of problems you guys made yourself from being too afraid to do things. And no, other areas will be fine. It wouldn't have been if you took Zhang Liao, Taishi Ci as well.>>33905679Then you guys just stay friends until you get the courage to confess.>>33905694The objective will be when Lu Bu announces a campaign might start, warring with another faction, etc. For now, what is expected is for you to make sure troops are prepared and make sure the city is decently maintained.>>33905725No.
>>339057397 PM Pacific tomorrow like usual?
>>33905739 I think things would be fine if you just removed giving orders to each general. If all we did was direct Zhu Xing's actions, plus buy equipment for the army, that wouldn't be too different from normal actions. It's a great system, I'd hate to see it get scrapped entirely.
>>33905778It's very micromanagy and not actually great. Once we figure out what officers do what actions best, we'll just have them spam those actions over and over until the city is fully upgraded.
>>33905739Since she already agreed to give dating a try, what would have happened if we confessed while 'friendly'?
>>33905790This is how I do it in ROTK X, should be fine here.
>>33905739I'd can't wait to see the paste bin get updated to see our reputation and relationship statusesAlso I'm really impressed by how Lu Bu is changing. How did that come about? It was the beard wasn't it?
>>33905790>Once we figure out what officers do what actions best, we'll just have them spam those actions over and over until the city is fully upgraded.That's why I suggested we remove that part in particular and keep the rest.
>>33905739For the guys under our command, can you give us some rough indication of ability? Like A, B, C, etc.So that we dont have to keep looking up rotk stats.
>>33905810It's unnecessary. All Raian has to do is assume we're spamming the officers doing their best actions and 90% of this micromanagement disappears.
>>33905810Video game and quests are different beasts. We have a limited number of quest hours per week. Things might be different if it was like Hellborn Quest where it runs every other day.We should make the best use of these quest hours while we can.
Rolled 77>>33905739Raian you should just cut out Micromanaging the generals it's what is ultimately going to congest or even kill this thread.
>>33905826Now I think thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiJWCJc4OecHis bread will end us all.
>>33905842Which honestly might be for the better, the micromanagement aspect can a be a little tough without something like a good UI to keep track of things.
>>33905739How close are Lu Bu and Chen Gong? Are they bros yet?
>>33905890It would have been nice to have gotten to know Chen Gong better. I hope there's a chance in the future... before we fight Cao Cao.
>>33905866Lu Bu has mastered the ultimate weapon; the halbeard.
>>33905802Refused but flattered.>>33905837Don't get in to the stats too hard. They are more important for you and are there for you to have a mechanical side to improve on. For all other officers, just think of their generalized abilities. Obviously you can trust Gao Shun to do work. Song Xian is an okay dude, but facing off against Sun Ce alone, he will likely not make it unless he has overwhelming troops or something.>>33905890Friendly. Their relationship is slightly complicated. But they trust each other.
>>33905969>Song Xian is an okay dude, but facing off against Sun Ce alone, he will likely not make it unless he has overwhelming troops or something.Like I keep saying, this nigger needs to go back to LDR college until the next big fight happens.
>>33905969That's good to hearSo it was Chen Gong's influence that lead Lu Bu to start maturing as a lord then? Or was it more him stepping into the role on his own?
>>33905969Has our wound still not healed? I recall last thread you said it'd probably be healed by the time this thread started.Hope you aren't discouraged by the bickering today. Its still a fun quest.
>>33905988I'm fine with keeping him a decent general. We don't need to grind every general. Raian just said to not get into stats too hard.We need him to work on recruiting and training troops anyway.
>>33906012>recruitingno, his CHA is terrible.
>>33906024The QM just said not to look into the stats less than 5 minutes ago.
>>33905969Thanks then Raian.3KQ is so much fun.
>>33906048Which of course means that generals have no strength or weaknesses and we turn Song Xian into the administrator.You're retarded
>>33906066We were given no in-quest indicator that Song Xian had a below average charisma.Only thing we know about him is that he's a decent general who was fine with looting and that he is prone to flattery. You can assume that he would be a terrible administrator because he's a general. You can't assume he has a terrible charisma stat and would be inept at recruiting from that.You are just justifying looking up ROTK 11 stats.
>>33905969I hope you reconsider abandoning the system completely. Take the advice here:>>33905861>>33905778>>33905842And give it a try for one three month period. This will remove the vast majority of the complexity, you could even give Zhu Xing one action for three months.If we go back to the system from Chang An, it won't feel like we're in control all that much, which would be a shame considering how far we've come.Either way, I appreciate efforts.
>>33906089Nope. You're just being fuckawful at figuring out people's character from descriptions.
>>33906089He also suggested abandoning our captial so he can panic more easily than our senior generals. Basically his a political animal that doesn't seem to have many strengths but is competent enough to use as a sub commander. Based on his actions so far in quest I'd question any movement to giving him more authority until he'd shown enough improvement to warrant it. I have no idea what his stats are like but in quest observation makes him seem mediocre and prone to cronyism but not useless or necessarily corrupt.
>>33906124Song Xian's advice has always had a sound basis. But it also show's he doesn't like to take risks or endure serious hardships in order to get a victory.
>>33906098This seems like a reasonable conclusion and I agree. Although I would wager his CHA is probably higher than Lingqi since he is a political animal and wants to advance.>>33906098Which Raian posts lead you to the conclusion that he has a terrible CHA?
>>33906148>"They have the advantage of the hills..." Song Xian mutters.>"We bombard them for a few days, then commence an all our attack," Song Xian states. "We should be giving no rest to the enemy and make them surrender as quickly as possible.">Song Xian suggests abandoning Jian Ye and moving back to Hui Ji, consolidating forces, and striking back together with Lu BuHe's basically /tg/ pre-Wang Can advice.
>>33906150The fact that he's a toady and terrible at chosen method of advancement.
>>33906148>>33906150>>33906162Obviously we need to train him up.I sorta see some affinity with him. We spar with him, train his leadership and get him to study books.We'll turn him into a proper general.
Speaking of Song Xian, we should remember his request that we allow him a few more opportunities for glory. Let him lead an opening charge or fight a duel with a commander that isn't too powerful he'd appreciate it and it'll help keep his loyalty so long as we throw him a bone every once in a while.
>>33906186If it doesn't take up turns, sure. Way too many generals and administrators to gladhand and he's fairly low on the totem poll.>>33906206This sounds good though
>>33906230It's kind of funny but the system in this thread would have been great for grinding scrub's stats up. >important generals and admins focus on listed tasks.>Scrubs focus on improving skills.>Zhu Xing does one improvement action, one social action and one action to either help train up troops or scrubs/find talent.
>>33906206This seems reasonable
>>33906206We will make him into our Zhu Xing.Shows promise but still low on the totem pole.
>>33906273Man we STILL haven't done dick with our siblings
http://pastebin.com/UTDjnUuX>Lu Lingqi (Major Genera): Trusted, "dating"so much glee
>>33906292>Huang Zu: DislikedFeeling's mutual, ya cunt
>>33906291Hopefully it wont take years for Zhu Yang to get in Cai Yan's pants.Also, Gao Shun or Gan Ning for our dear sister? Gao Shun appears to be the one who will look after her more.
Hey, can we begin training our younger siblings into useful people?For instance, Yang could train to be a good administrator/governor/politician, and Yue could train in influencing people and ploys.
>>33906303We will have his head on a platter before the Liu Biao faction is done in.
>>33906304Have her meet with both, see which pairing is more compatible
>>33906304Gao Shun seems like a honorable type while Gan Ning is more of the rogue archetype. Depends on what sister is after I guess. Little Gao or Gans would both make fierce warriors.
>>33906318I kinda liked Liu Cong. He wasn't the ambitious type and he was fairly humble. Even after we kick out the Cais, I want him to stay in place as prefect/governor of Jing.Plus Lu Bu's daughter is happy with him, don't want to make her a widow if we can help it.
>>33906340Both sound damn good to me.