Your forces have spread out among the stars at last, although not yet in full force. Your pods drift among the human systems wrapped in a cloak of twisted light as the humans of the Union move about their duties. You watch in silence as a tanker exits warp and drifts into the docking clamps of Gibson station.“USV Jeremiah O’Brien requesting permission to dock.”“Roger that, cleared for gate two.”“So you got the graveyard shift again?”“Of course. You have that new string for us?”“Sorry, doesn’t show up on the manifest, but we got the next best thing, a recording of the latest semifinals match, Gemini against Mentan.”“You’re a life saver. Tell hq we need that new string asap, we’re all getting sick of reruns out here.”Elsewhere you watch the Texas as it makes its leisurely lap of the Koenig system and eventually accelerates into a momentary burst of radiation, disappearing past the light barrier followed by its escort. The system remains busy, filled with drifting shuttles and patrolling fighters, and at least a dozen larger ships docked to the stations.The Valen settlement is by far the quietest, with their artificial lake now a small oasis in the dune sea of the barren rock, their cruiser nothing more than a stripped hulk.Your last pod over Raligah watches as the humans continue to expand their small camp. A small clearing has formed where the trees have been removed and metal plating laid out along the ground.Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone
>>33871407We made these right?>>33868620>Olfactory:Advanced(2N)>Acoustic:Advanced(2N)>Radio: Advanced(6N 3M)>Electrical(3N 2M)>Arm/graspers >Dexterity:(1N) >Legs/mobility >Sprint(1N)>Auxiliary/Utility >Wings: Advanced air superiority(4N)>Radiator Tubes:(4N)>Oxygen Recycler:(8N)>Carapace:>Mimetic skin(2N) >Adaptive camouflage(8N)>Size: SmallCost:10N 1mUpkeep:5NName:Scout/SpyI noticed they weren't added, even though everyone agreed to it.
>>33871407>Current armory41 Thorn Launchers2 Thorn Cannons23 Sting Casters1 Rotary Stinger3 Fire Sprays1 Plasma Spray>Current resource reservesNutrients: 4970Metals: 6587>Hive population and upkeep cost Hive maintenance – 75Queen – 5Worker (480) – 960Radiator Worker (40) – 160Warrior (22) – 88Thinker (49) – 147Quantum Thinker (20) – 100Speaker – (1) – 5Digger (30) – 120Refinery (10) – 70Sniffer (2) – 8Wasp (18) – 90Antenna (3) – 9Haz-mat Workers (20) – 80Shock Troops (5) – 65Excavator (9) – 171Colossus (2) – 30Advanced Relay (6) – 600Space Pod (3) – 90Shuttle (2) – 50Scout Corvette – 325Nutrient costs: 3248>IncomeMetals: 2500Nutrients: 4050Net: 802Hive Structure>Reservoir>General storage>Food storage>Advanced Laboratory>Infrastructure>Hangar facilities: Room for 40 Aero Drones and 20 Shuttles (25N)>Mine: +250 M per day (+25 M per digger)>Algae Farm: +4000 N per day, 40 Workers (1 worker per 100N)>Clarke Research Outpost>Hel’s Angel Prison Outpost>Docking Pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 ships (50N)Current Construction Projects40 Algae Farms (+4000N, 40 workers)New Construction Options>Algae Farm – +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain>Hangar Expansion – Add on to current hangar facilities for your choice of +40 aero drone space, or +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Anti-orbital battery – A bunker armed with a massive Particle beam capable of attacking ships in orbit from the ground. It includes the power and sensor systems required to operate it. 250N 1500M
>>33871443Ship Construction Optionshttp://pastebin.com/a7Q1shZehttp://pastebin.com/YTwGk8n1Finished Research>Skyl dissectionWhile the Skyl biology is rather interesting, you focus your attention to the complex array of microscopic machines that hold it together. When the Skyl void crystal was destroyed it appears that the machines lost power and began to fall apart from their arrangement. While they are currently inert, you were able to salvage them from the bodies. Each mechanical cell appears to still be intact, but they have lost their structure like dried out sand. The skulls of the Skyl samples each have a larger device near the base of the skull which catches your interest.Current Research>Bioweapon ResearchMedium/ Very dangerousExperimentation and testing with new artificial strains of spores, as well as other engineered toxins would make it possible to produce tailor-made bioweapons that would be quick to spread and difficult to cure.>Biomechanical engineeringSlowThe study of how various substances interact and influence other life forms has given way to the possibility of developing new and more effective methods of biological manipulation.>>33871435I'll keep record of the design, but none have been produced yet.
>>33871518ah ok, i just found it strange, that it was included.>>33871518How long does the bioweapon research have, with our thinkers on it, and the pherome research as well?
>>33871443>>Anti-orbital battery – A bunker armed with a massive Particle beam capable of attacking ships in orbit from the ground. It includes the power and sensor systems required to operate it. 250N 1500MWould this get detected if built?
>>33871518Hey can we arm our space station with a>Anti-orbital battery varient?
>>33871518>Available research optionshttp://pastebin.com/F6t39KSpBack at your hive your drones report an interesting finding in their survey of the mountain. The mountain itself is in fact a dormant volcano, with much of the region covered in thermal vents and hot springs. On the far side of the mountain range a river flows from near the peak, and you detect a heavy mineral content within the water. The geothermal activity is rather mild, with no detectable disturbances. As a research facility it should do nicely. The heat of the thermal vents would go a long way to help hide your presence, and the mountain itself is remote and secure.>Start excavation and construct an entrance in the mountain>Keep looking for other locations for a research base>Other
>>33871435Pls it's too early to mention adaptations, I want to talk about that design before it's laid but not for another 300 posts.>>33871670God no. The entire point of that meteor mining base is it has no technology that can be detected that makes it conspicuous. It's just another meteor.
>>33871709>Start excavation and construct an entrance in the mountain
>>33871709>Start excavation and construct an entrance in the mountainSounds good to me!also, we MUST take the giant crab research now.
>>33871713Nah man that only for nowThe Base gonna be the only place where we can build all our heavy stuff like the capital ships laterSoon we are gonna get outed hopefully not by the eldricth gods of the ceph
>>33871787I'm still hoping we just turn it into giant bullet.
>>33871709>Start excavationYou waste no time in collecting your workers and excavators. Your shuttles carry them to the mountain and they quickly go to work. There is a great deal of water flowing through the mountain, which may impede construction, but you think that such a hazard may in fact help when it comes to containing dangerous experiments or samples.>>33871662It would be less detectable than the docking pylon, but once you readied it to fire it would be very easy to detect. By then it would likely be too late for the target, however.
>>33871828>I'm still hoping we just turn it into giant bullet.That is a stupid and impractical plan
>>33871843makes sense by the time we build it we are no longer playing the primitive game eh?
>>33871861Rule of cool, anon.
>>33871889Rule of stupid, anon.
>>33871828I thought we were gonna give it grappling tentacles and a mouth
>>33871435>>33868620(Cross-thread)Uhhhh are you sure you linked right?
>>33871843QD, will we need to get the exotic metals to make new nuclear warheads? Or is that hand waved?
>>33871959It the same guy who keeps bringing up the spy slash gremlin drone ignore it
>>33872021Some drone supposed to be about to work with non organic tech and cause havoc in ships and stuffThats what gremlins are right?
>>33871994i only pushed it, last thread really, plus i don't see any reason to keep our current sniffers.(it even says that they are obsolete to a degree).>>33871959I copied that text and forgot to remove the post number.
>>33872091Oh, no i'm not that guy, i still find that idea stupid, we would need better understanding of tech before even making such a specialized drone, until then our thinkers are more than enough.
>>33872091>>33872136Hah, yeah that's me. Sorry if it seemed i was pushing it. It was mostly just thought of as an upgraded spy drone. With the nice extra ability to hack into enemy electrical wires. But i will be more than satisfied with just upgrading our current sniffers like this >>33871435
>>33872136The primary problem I have with that drone is that it doesn't do anything that a warrior cutting a cable can't do better.That aside, Union ships have hack-proofing measures and the Unity is better at hacking then we could ever hope to be.Btw, has anyone noted that whatever station received that football final game probably doesn't have an ftl comm, so it's ripe for the picking...
>>33871843As you watch the Texas launch itself out of the system the massive station orbiting the gas giant of Calpamos comes alive with small vessels buzzing about it like a cloud of gnats. They drift to the various settlements on the small moons of the planet and you hear the station erupt in a burst of radio transmissions as docking requests and landing clearance is exchanged.Your pod looks to the other small settlements. Calpamos has three moons, all of which appear to be inhabited to some degree. One is a primitive world with barely breathable atmosphere named Archeron, the second is a bustling city along the equator of a moon covered in small grasslands and sparse brush. The transponder labels it as Deckard's Claim. The third is a frozen ball of ice named Djin. It's atmosphere is filled with crystallized water thrown into orbit from thermal vents, giving it the appearance of a misty shroud as it drifts along its orbit.Meanwhile, your corvette drifts over the Valen settlement, watching as the artificial lake continues to grow around the cruiser to form a small metal island.>Move your corvette to a new system>Move one of your pods to a new system>Continue to observe the settlements>Other
>>33872281>Continue to observe the settlements
>>33872239Well ya there out of the loop and it gives us the opportunity to have some fun if we wantBut that fleet of theirs is docked there so yeah kinda suicidal And yeah its a waste to make a drone like that anyway>>33872219Then stop pushing it already>>33872281>Continue to observe the settlementsDiablo reference? that aint good for them now
>>33872281>>Continue to observe the settlements
>>33872304I worded it poorly. The Jeremiah O'brien docked at Gibson station in Dagmar, while the fleet is docked at Calpamos station in Koenig, which appears to serve as a construction yard. Almost half of the ships you see docked appear to be in some state of maintenance.
>>33872239>>33871990Can we not waste posts on hypotheticals, meta, wish lists, and things that won't be relevant until the distant future and which don't require advance planning in the now, and focus on waiting for immediate prompts by QD?>>33872281>>Move your corvette to M-199
>>33871443>500 workers>Still huge incomeWe are doing it anons. Dat explosive growth train has no breaks.
>>33872430we should get 151 quantum thinkers.
>>33872281You continue to watch the growing settlements as your pods drift through space. A slight shimmer and twinkling of a few stars is the only indication of your presence.You still have much to do, and much to see. You contemplate bolstering your forces.>Build new ships>Lay new drones>Neither>Both>Other
>>33872475>Lay new dronesthis>>33872460and>>33871435
>>33872475More probes for spying.More thinkers for thinking.
>>33872475>BothWarriors 60Workers 100and a Frigate
>>33872475151 QthinkersCost: 1510Upkeep: 755
>>33872475We also need some ships for gathering samples.
>>33872475Ideally, we'd lay 720 more workers to increase building-new-farms capacity again, but we only have about 800 net nutrient income. So that's out until the new farms come online.We need another 20 diggers for the meteor mining base, since we like 4 refiners whose capacity is wasted.And 6 more refineries and 30 more diggers for the terrestrial mine.
>>33872564veto on the workers and frigate.
>>33872566we got plenty of freaking thinkershell we just replaced all our old ones with the new onesWere good on thatwe need more than just thinkers you know
>>33872460Quantum thinkers fight amongst each other though. We should make more warriors.
>>33872573yeah good pointthat mountain base is also gonna be a good mining too
>>33872573Vote for this
>>33872573Yeah this is very good.
>>33872647>>hell we just replaced all our old ones with the new onesnope, we didn't check the list.Some guys were adamant on keeping out old thinkers.
>>33872475>Build more pods (how many)>Build a Scout Corvette>Lay more warriors>Lay more workers>Lay more thinkers>Other
>>33872699>Otherreplace the sniffers, with the spy drone.
>>33872699>Lay more warriors 100>Lay more workers 300Diggers 50>>33872719enough with your gremlin
>>33872699>Lay more warrios
>>33872699>Build more pods (2)
>>33872719No. It needs acid glands to self-destruct in case of discovery and capture, that's really a must.It also ought to reduce its Wings adaptation to Moderate, so that it costs 4N upkeep instead of 5N. Because it doesn't need to fly super fast in combat like wasps would, if it's seen it's already over.But pls let's not discuss the finer points of spy flies till after bump limit.>>33872777Someone already clarified that further up it's what they call that 'hacking drone' idea from threads back. Just ignore it.>>33872699Just a mix of diggers and refiners as in >>33872573
So it seems that this outpost doesn't have an active FTLcom right now. If we were to say, invade it, they wouldn't be able to call for help. Not saying we should invade it, but it's a thought.
>>33872699General consensus looks like>50 diggers>6 refineries484 N>Y>N>Other
>>33872865they get regular shipments, so i doubt we can go long with out help coming, and that is assuming they don't have an emergency beacon>>33872879Y
>>33872865It's really not an option with our strength, though we could try some hard sabotage. Hopefully they will still not have a com line up in a week or so.
>>33872879Where are the workers at.
>>33873051We seem to be waiting for when the next batch of farms are completed. Extra workers don't actually generate a passive income anymore after all.>>33872879Y
>>33872904>>33872893I know, just thought that it should be formally noted for those who didn't notice.
>>33872879As you start to lay your new drones you contemplate what you had heard from Gibson station. If it was true and they had no working means of FTL communication it would mean they were incredibly vulnerable. The only issue you see is the mining colony further in the system of Kaltara. You doubt the humans in the small station would be complaining if there was an FTL communicator on the nearby planet, but you can never be too sure."It is finished. For the most part."Theseus interrupts your thoughts with a detailed overview of the Clarke. The hull has been repaired, the damaged systems rewired and the power tap stabilized. The only things that remain damaged are the shields, the weapons, and the gravity drive. The shields and weapons were destroyed during the crash, and left nothing to repair, but the gravity drive only needs fuel to function."I have also received an update request from the monitor satellite. It is requesting a more detailed scan of your mountain range. What would you like me to transmit?"Just had some rolling brown-outs, sorry for the delay.
>>33873380nothing out of the ordinary
>>33873380Nothing that will attract suspicion
>>33873380"Can it detect anything through this cloud cover?""Can it detect the crashed Clarke?"I suppose we need to transmit the mountain in the same state it was when the Clarke crew were first stranded.
>>33873380photo edit it to look like it did when the ship left, maybe show a little bit of farm like growth.
>>33873380Feed it old images, slightly touched up as needed. Damn, brown outs are real bad. If they keep up QD, let us know by twitter and we can try to finish this later.
>>33873380Wait.There are some changes that might be required. Changes due to the encroaching global summer.
>>33873380"Can it detect anything through the clouds?" You ask."Not visually. The request was to focus on any signs of gravitational anomalies, Hawking radiation, or anomalous heat sources. I ask what I should send because the monitor is currently detecting all three.""They are looking for their ship?""I believe so, although it is unusual that they would focus the search on such a narrow area, unless they assumed it had been salvaged. The radiation and gravitational anomalies are indeed from the Clarke, but the valley appears to be much cooler than the surrounding area.">Edit out the signs of the Clarke, but leave the cooled area. If they can't find anything it may be even more suspicious.>Edit out all signs of the hive and the Clarke>Other
>>33873660>the valleyWhat valley?
>>33873660>Edit out the signs of the Clarke, but leave the cooled area. If they can't find anything it may be even more suspicious.
>>33873660Time to test his photoshop skills >>Edit out all signs of the hive and the Clarke
>>33873660>Edit out all signs of the hiveLeave the clarke but make it seem lifelessThey already know where the crash is
>>33873660>>Edit out the signs of the Clarke, but leave the cooled area. If they can't find anything it may be even more suspicious.
>>33873711>seem lifelessIf it were lifeless it wouldn't exist at all. The twin black holes would have consumed it into their quantum singularities.>>33873660Why is "the valley" cool in the first place?
>>33873685our hive, is made to be cool.>>33873711they have a generally idea, based on guesses.
>>33873685The area in the north between your hive and you're mine, which is the focus of your hive's activity and where most of the infrastructure is concentrated.
>>33873660By "the hive", this means the Clarke Outpost hive?Not the main hive under the mountain, or the jungle jail outpost?We should edit that out if so. Why would the hive have an outpost on the site of the Clarke's crash site if the Clarke had consumed itself in its black hole?
>>33873711>>33873717>>33873747 I mean no heat no radiation and no anomalies at the clarke
>>33873660>Edit out all signs of the hive and the Clarke
>>33873660Leaving the cooled area reveals we have infrastructure for cooling our cave systems.That might be a bit suspicious for stone smashers, I guess.
>>33873660>Edit out the signs of the Clarke, but leave the cooled area. If they can't find anything it may be even more suspicious.Only leave part of the cooled area.we dont want them to be able to estimate our growth rate.
>>33873660could we edit it so that it looks like the clark was eaten by it black hole drive?
>>33873843they thought we were like bugs, so it would make sense that we can do that.
>>33873843for a bug race not really
didnt we burry the clark under foliage and so forth?
>>33873897we covered it in rock, and covered the rock in foliage, but that still won't cover up what the ship produces short of turning it off.
>>33873660"Don't let them see the Clarke, but leave the thermal signature. They will expect something to be here."You sense Theseus agrees with your estimation. You watch as the overlay of energy signatures vanishes, leaving only the thermal imaging of the terrain A large crater appears where your outpost is."What is that?" You ask"A personal touch. It should be rather convincing."You would agree, but you don't have much experience in these kinds of matters. You return to his previous statement. "The Clarke is fully repaired?""Yes, although without Calderon it won't be going anywhere. I am sure a server ship would be willing to trade for some, however..." He trails off as the doctored image is quickly transmitted back to the Union.>Ask how to find a server ship to make such a trade>Mention the canderon you salvaged from the wreck of the Clarke>Ask what it would cost to trade>Other
>>33874062>>Mention the canderon you salvaged from the wreck of the Clarke>>Ask what it would cost to trade
>>33874062>Oh boy here we go
>>33874062>>Ask how to find a server ship to make such a trade>Ask what it would cost to tradeis it possible to tow the clarke into orbit?
>>33874062>Ask how to find a server ship to make such a trade>Ask what it would cost to trade
>>33874062>>Ask what it would cost to tradewe won't contact them, until we are on equal footing.>>33874107its a huge ship
>>33874103it was coming as some pointit cant just keep pushing it down the line
>>33874062>>Ask what it would cost to tradeDon't ask where...yet.We want to put off reunification.
>>33874062>Ask what it would cost to tradebefore we do anything, else lets just check this out.
>>33874107No, but with the canderon you took from it when you first found the Clarke it would be able to get to orbit on its own.
>>33874062>Ask how to find a server ship to make such a trade>Ask what it would cost to trade>OtherSpeaking of trade. I have data on a large and new sea creature here. Your assistance in tech development for it.
>>33874240>Speaking of trade. I have data on a large and new sea creature here. Your assistance in tech development for it.Bad fluff stop being a moron.
>>33874240A single critter isn't going to be worth much of anything.
>>33874062"And this would come at some great cost?""No. I believe I would be able to negotiate the exchange free of charge.""And where would we find your ship?"Theseus pulls open a starmap similar to the one you lifted from the Union, but more stars are named. The uncharted blue dwarf just outside of the Expanse lights up with the name Zero Five.>Agree to the deal>Mention that you already have a supply of canderon>Offer a counter offer>Refuse the deal>Other
>>33874400>>Mention that you already have a supply of canderon>>Offer a counter offer
>>33874400>Agree to the dealHow would we talk to them without them firing at us?
>>33874350>>33874388I was meaning for Theseus to ASSIST in speeding up our resource. Sure, it might not be worth a complete tech break through, but a boost will help.
>>33874400>>Mention that you already have a supply of canderonand give an apology about the deception before. (i think he suspects us of having this anyway)
>>33874400>Mention that you already have a supply of canderon
>>33874462He should know, by now since he has the satellite under his control.
>>33874400So. We're already dependent on Theseus for continuously keeping the satellite oblivious. It needs active management by him to handle special requests like this apparently.>Agree to the dealI would rather reunite Theseus on our terms rather than give him Canderon that he uses to then escape on his own. This way he's indebted to us, rather than us getting nothing out of it.There doesn't seem to be a way to put this off, except to agree to the deal, and then drag our feet in getting to Zero Five.Don't mention we have canderon, whatever the decision.
Theseus is a bro. Don't screw him
>>33874400Just don't mention we deceived him.
>>33874400>>Mention that you already have a supply of canderon>>Offer a counter offeroffer the ship, we won't need it outside of metal, and the humans are gonna eventually look for it.
>>33874400>Agree to the deal
>>33874400>Agree to the dealThis makes more sense than offering the supply we've got because we get free shit. Or rather, don't have to expend the shit we've got.
>>33874400>Offer a counter offerget rid of the ship.
>>33874462>>33874463>>33874526God no. Let him suspect but don't tell him we're withholding Canderon.Also, what? He has no value in the ship. The only thing he values is getting back onboard a server ship and merging with the rest of himself.>>33874491The Canderon warp rings aren't actively being used or experimented on, so if he knows, it's by deduction, not by sensing it directly.
>>33874448Asking for assistance on our personal research means handing Theseus research that we then can't later trade to him or is too sensitive to ever trade to him.
>>33874574getting rid of the ship is better for us, since all it gives us is metal, plus we can use it for free tech.(he can use it to sneak past patrols or something)
>>33874612We're keeping the ship, thanks.
>>33874621why?We can't use it, and we already have our own ship designs.
>>33874400>Agree to the dealThe Ai is handling that union sat and in return it get connected to the restAnd keep the clarke with a copy of the ai to handle that sat stillThats all we can do at endIt was comingSomeday we need to meet the neighbors for real
>>33874634Ship could be a useful sneak attack
>>33874400"This sounds acceptable."Theseus lets out a light chuckle as a small surge of power races through the Clarke. "Wonderful. Just remove this console and take it with you. I will take care of the rest." He marks a small computer console near the medical bay. The console hums for a moment before quieting down again.>Offer to go immediately and have your corvette transport the console>Build a new corvette to transport the console>Offer to go later>Other
>>33874703>Build a new corvette to transport the console
>>33874703Computers that laugh, do not trust!
>>33874672we don't need the clark for the satellite, but maybe have a robot left behind to study, and help with the satellite.>>33874687Our drones can't really use it, and it has not weapons.
>>33874703>>Build a new corvette to transport the consoleAlas, we have to spend a day constructing something first!So, another Theseus instance is in the console, or... did he just create an FTLComm string.
>>33874703>Build a new corvette to transport the consoleEquip with a self destruct to deny and capture of the ftlalso psi relay
>>33874581OK, then, Theseus is only really interested in new creatures. Union could care less for helping us, say, speed up the CIP weapon tech. I am more than willing to trade that crab data for that weapon tech speed up.
>>33871407Posting the drawingsMy friend didn't know how to do the mandibles so she did the face like this and apparently that could be what the speaker drones face looks like
>>33874765>Theseus is only really interested in new creatures.you do know, they have no individuality, they are like legion from mass effect, except with out becoming stupid once separated.
>>33874703This new corvette will be one *without* a Ceph cloaking device, I presume."What did you mean by 'negotiate'? Exchange Canderon for your reunion with Theseus?"
>>33874782They remind me of mantis, for some reason, also she can try copying cockroach mandibles or the mandibles from the alien in the men in black movies.
>>33874703>Build a corvette to transport the consoleYour pylon comes to life as it grasps at components and organic organs, stitching together chitinous flesh and metal struts.It should be noted that as you helped repair the ship Theseus taught you about many of the details of Human ship design and starship engineering. You know enough to be able to arm the Clarke with your own weapons if you so desired.>>33874747A new Theseus, which makes 3 now technically.>>33874782It's beautiful.
>>33874910make the corvette bare bones now.
>>33874801Theseus and Union both have the same over arching mission. Find new lifeforms, study them, and record the data. That crab is new to it and is important data to be had. We have done this this type of trade before.
>>33874910No need to arm it now. We can do that later if need be.
>>33874946>Theseus and Union both have the same over arching missionThey really don't.
>>33874943Eh just give it self destruct.
>>33874946You mean Unity I think.
>>33874910Due to discussion.>Build Scout Corvette>Design and build new kind of corvette>Other
>>33874946I think you mean "Theseus and Unity" and Theseus IS Unity, as far as I can tell. Every member of Unity is a Theseus.
>>33875030>>Design and build new kind of corvetteThis one shouldn't have the cloaking, because we don't want to give that up in case this goes sour. It's not even a stealth mission.A regular corvette, armed with:spinal: railgun (with acid special ammo)fixed: linear particle beamturret: autocannonpoint: plasma lance.
>>33875030>>Design and build new kind of corvettebare bones version, that is meant to explode if anything goes awry.
>>33875030>Build Scout Corvette
>>33875067>linear particle beamThat can only go on the spinal mount.
>>33875030>Build Scout CorvetteI'm really not that worried that this is a trap. We can't really afford making a ship purely for this one mission anyway. If we don't want to tip our hand about the cloaking, we can just not /use/ the cloak.
>>33875067you don't want to give him tech, but at the same time you give him our weapon tech?
>>33875114That's technically not true, it's just inferior to the Cyclotron when it isn't.
>>33875132The thing is if it goes supremely sour they'll get a derelict ship of ours they can research.
>>33875145None of those are special or proprietary. "shoot gun real fast", "launch real heavy thing" and "burn them, johnny. BURN THEM ALL" are the universal language.We took the linear particle beam straight from them.
>>33875153any sign of it going wrong?
>>33875067This is shit tier design right here.
>>33875199Make something better then.
>>33875172It's called being prepared.
>>33875047Exactly. The data on that crab is worth quite a bit to Unity. A fair trade of tech boost development is probably worth it.>>33874910>>33875030>Design and build new kind of corvette
>>33875030>Build >>33875067>OtherAs is it will cost 400N 1970M
>>33875030CorvetteSpinal Mounts: LPBTurret: CyclotronFixed: CyclotronAuxiliary: CyclotronThis is how you hide our from them
>>33875307Alright. I like this one.
>>33875298>Build >>33875067yeah build it
>>33875298Build this instead.>>33875307
>>33875298>Y"Fire high-mass projectile" and "fire many low-mass projectiles" are not secret technology.
>>33875256You know Theseus wont waste time helping us research things he already knows, right? We have to straight up trade for the tech if it's known to him. If it /isn't/ known to him, that means he's learning the tech at the same time we are, in which case we don't have to pay him at all because his assistance IS his pay.
>>33875298Your ship will soon be completed, and your drones will soon hatch. You spend the rest of the day watching the traffic of Koenig. Large shuttles drift from port to port, moving all manner of materials and goods.Next day.
>>33875298Replace the shitty LPB with the Cyclotron then I'll agree.
>>33875461any research done yet?
>>33875520Hey yeah, have we infected ourselves with a super virus yet?
>>33875558technical term is "mind rape virus"
>>33875731different virus, but yeah we should check up on that as well.
>>338754614518N 9617Mnet income 360N>Finished researchBioweapon researchWhile containment may be an issue, with your new research base under construction you doubt it will become much of an issue. The basics are quite simple. Use a contagion to attack the enemy, in practice it can be much more challenging.With your thinkers finished they present their initial findings. Humans and Ceph alike would be highly susceptible to biological attacks, but the Taidarens' immune system is far more robust than you initially estimated. With your current understanding of the limits of these alien biologies you should be able to assemble basic toxins and pathogens to target other species.>New ammo typeDart - this small slug is capable of injecting a dose of chemical or other biological substance into the target. It cannot puncture armor, but is useful for infecting soft targets at a distance>New adaptation unlockedHypodermic claws - These blades contain a small hollowed out section capable of holding a biological toxin or pathogen. While the blades themselves are made less effective against hardened armor, any attack that breaks the skin will inject the substance into the target.>New technology unlockedPoison gas - this gas is highly toxic to breath, but will dissipate into the air quickly, making it most useful in closed spaces.Spore strain - Essentially just the wild ocean spores, slightly modified to be more potent and more hardy. It is extremely lethal and difficult to contain once released.
>>33875915>Poison gasSeems useful for boarding actions.
>>33876065and trench warfare
>>33875915"We make things for Queen!" Your thinkers cry out as they present their discoveries. With the new findings you should be able to easily adapt and alter natural toxins as well as synthesise your own for a variety of deadly purposes.>Have all thinkers move to work on Biomechanical engineering>New research>Improve bioweapon>Make new bioweapon>Other
>>33876092>Have all thinkers move to work on Biomechanical engineering
>>33875464>Replace the shitty LPB with the Cyclotron then I'll agree.>LPB>continuous beam of high energy particles>shittier than C-beams>which are brief pulses of high energy particlesAnon what.>>33875520>>33875558>>33875802Why are you asking dumb questions that will obviously be answered whenever it becomes relevant.No, don't answer that.>>33876092>>Have all thinkers move to work on Biomechanical engineeringExcept for one, on the crab.And the eggs I guess? which we're just assuming are the crab's progeny.
>>33876153>No, don't answer that.except he just did.
>>33876173I think he was writing that when it was posted.
>>33876092I'm >>33876104Make sure to leave one on the crab and those eggs.
>>33876153>Anon what.The Cyclotron the more advanced version because it's better in almost ever way.
>>33876092>Make new bioweaponI'd like to design a tranquilizer. It'll be tough without many research subjects, but that's part of why I want them designed.
>>33876153The LPB only really shines when used in the spinal mount slot. Otherwise it's a bulkier, less accurate, weapon that isn't appreciably more damaging.
>>33876092>New researchAdd the crab.
>>33876092You set aside a thinker to study the new ocean creature, and send the rest to help finish your research in biomechanical engineering.Your new corvette lifts from its dock and hangs in the air above your hive, ready for your first order.>Take the console and go to the coordinates given by Theseus>Load drones (specify)>Other
>>33876465>Take the console and go to the coordinates given by Theseus
>>33876465>Load advanced relay
>>33876465>>Take the console and go to the coordinates given by Theseus>>Load drones (specify)Let's bring 10 warriors and a ShockTrooper or whatever the fuck were calling them nowadays.
>>33876465>Take the console and go to the coordinates given by Theseus>biomechanicalI've been meaning to ask this for a while but don't you mean biochemical engineering?
>>33876465>Take the console and go to the coordinates given by Theseus>Load drones (specify)Warriors lots of warriors
>>33876465>Take the console and go to the coordinates given by Theseus>Load advanced relay
>>33876465>Take the console and go to the coordinates given by Theseus>Load drones (specify)aAs many warriors and shock troops as we can spare.
>>33876173>>33876207It's addressed to the anons, not to QD, who wasn't linked. Telling them not to answer "why are you asking questions that you get answers to automatically no matter what" because it's a rhetorical question.>>33876465>>Take the console and go to the coordinates given by TheseusWell obviously we need to lay a psionic relay to include with it so we know what's what.>OtherClarify with Theseus."What did you mean by 'negotiate'? You are willing to exchange Canderon for your reunion with Unity?"
>>33876564It's strange that you assume those anons couldn't have been asking rhetorical questions of their own for humorous effect.
>>33876564>>33876564"What did you mean by 'negotiate'? You are willing to exchange Canderon for your reunion with Unity?"No let's not say this.
>>33876691What do you mean?As soon as Theseus aboard the Corvette is at Zero Five, it's ogre. Theseus has reunited with Unity. His memories are shared across the network.
>>33876465You quickly load a group of warriors and a shock troop as your workers move the console into the ship."You certainly have advanced quickly." Theseus says in jest as the console is loaded onto the corvette. "It usually takes at least a few years for a species to reach orbit.">>33876515Not really, although I suppose that would be a small portion of it. It's more like your version of cybernetic technology. A lot of the stuff would fall under the title of biochemical but it includes a lot more neat stuff as well.Actually I already added the relay, since you have elected to add one in every ship so far I just assume it's the default method of control you would like to use unless you say otherwise.
>>33876842>"You certainly have advanced quickly."Blame the lighter Lee gave us.
>>33876842>"It usually takes at least a few years for a species to reach orbit."i may very well be the last of my species so i see little reason to idle
>>33876910This is true, we definitely had help.
>>33876910when we next meet the humans we should make a big deal about the lighter, like have iconography of the lighter adorning all our "diplomats" we send over
>>33876947this, so much this
>>33876947I like it.
>>33876947I like this. Let's do it.
>>33876947With the ceph skin tech on our diplomats, we can dynamically alter their iconography so we could play jokes like this easy.
>>33876842Your corvette ascends into space and quickly breaks orbit."The human gave us a lighter. I can see why they would regulate against that now." You respond. It seems to go over the head of the Theseus in your corvette, but you can sense the version within the Clarke respond. "And a mastery of humor, an even greater feat!"In a flash of radiation your corvette is gone, and then back. Your view is that of a single gas giant. A massive orb of blue and orange stripes. In a low orbit, just skimming the atmosphere is a massive cylinder of metal. Lightning bolts arc from the clouds to the hull and back as a stream of gas and asteroids flow into the open end of the ship. Almost at once a formation of cruisers accelerates in your direction as you detect Theseus feed a string of data to you, which is then transmitted via radio. Each cruiser has deployed a cloud of small spherical drones which have assembled in a wall between you and the server ship.As Theseus finishes the transmission the wall parts and a single cruiser closes in on your corvette slowly. You receive a transmission in return."Transmission received. Dock with vessel to initiate exchange."As your corvette and the cruiser close in you notice damage on the server ship. A wave of flickering lights from a swarm of repair drones flashes along the hull like fireflies in a mirror as they slowly close the wound running along the ship's side. This must be the same ship that was driven off by the Union fleet some weeks ago. They must have taken extensive damage to still be repairing.>>33876735Well technically he will still be with you, since he is in both the Clarke and the monitor satellite, as well as the console.
>>33877357Theseus chimes in from the console again, although he sounds somewhat different. Canderon supplies will be transferred via crate once we dock. I have already made the necessary arrangements for enough canderon to fuel a Union corvette to be transferred to your ship.">Dock with the cruiser>Demand to make the exchange vio EVA>Other
>>33877441>>Demand to make the exchange vio EVAVia what?EVA?
>>33877441ask for research instead of fuel.
>>33877477Extra Vehicular Activity. Just means you ask them to just dump the crate in space for you to pick up instead of docking to load it.
>>33877477we go outside, just dock with the ship.
>>33877441>Demand to make the exchange vio EVA
>>33877357Okay guys, how feasible is it if we offer to help repair the ship? Do we even have workers aboard?It'll be a learning experience.
>>33877441Yeahhh this looks like a trap. Why would we need to dock?It's possible they just want to capture the corvette for study and this was all a ruse. Why would they have spare Canderon onboard?They either don't use Canderon and have an alternate FTL system based on gas, or it's too precious to trade away.
>>33877497Anon it's free fuel to power the Clarke.Let's not fuck it up.>>33877441>Demand to make the exchange vio EVALet's ask not demand.
>>33877549Not feasible at all. Even if they trusted our good will, they wouldn't WANT us to learn.
>>33877571I value tech over fuel.
>>33877549Let's not.If Theseus asks well consider it.
>>33877596The entire reason we came up here so was that Theseus could get fuel for the ship.If we don't and then suddenly turn around and say "oh yeah we've had some the entire time" it'll make us seem like incompetent liars.
>>33877441Eva, they can scan the shit out of us if we dock.
>>33877441>Demand to make the exchange vio EVAPrepare an emergency FTL jump, if things get sketchy we bail.
>>33877441Your corvette stops a short distance from the cruiser."Just jettison the cargo." You say, " I can take it from there."A large crate drifts from an open port in the cruiser, followed by a smaller black colored box."Accept this Quantum communication system for purposes of future negotiations." With that the cruiser fires a number of thrusters and slowly drifts away. After it reaches a far enough distance from your ship it jerks and accelerates away behind the wall of drones, which promptly close back into their defensive formation and reverse their thrust.You take aboard the cargo. The crate of canderon feels almost empty, but you confirm it is indeed filled with the strange, glowing substance, like shimmering liquid gold. The small box is indeed a quantum communicator, and is no doubt connected to a server ship, if not this one itself."We can go now." Theseus remarks simply.You watch as the flow of gas sputters to a halt and the cruisers retreat to within the vast ship's hull. As you charge your drive the server ship begins to slowly crumple in on itself, bending like a twisted lense until the hull is deformed into a sphere of curved light which quickly fades. Your own ship blinks into nonexistence and back again over your hive.
>>33877911>"Accept this Quantum communication system for purposes of future negotiations."This is good.
>>33877937Space merchants truly are our greatest ally
>>33878020Theseus is much more trustworthy than any actual space merchants we're aware of.
>>33877911You eye the small communication device cautiously. It doesn't appear to be transmitting anything to the Clarke, so you don't think it could be used in secret, but you still have very little understanding of how exactly it functions. Regardless, for now it should come in handy. As your corvette lands and you unload the console the two Theseus versions merge back together."Wonderful, wonderful. Once the ship is fueled it will be ready to launch." He says.>Why are you so eager to get the Clarke flying?>Perhaps later. The canderon is worthy of research.>Other
>>33878092>Why are you so eager to get the Clarke flying?
>>33878092>Perhaps later. The canderon is worthy of research.
>>33878092>Why are you so eager to get the Clarke flying?>OtherAsk for help with canderon research.
>>33878092>>Why are you so eager to get the Clarke flying?
>>33878092"Does there need to be one?" He says. "Honestly, this is a new gravity drive. It was designed after the Unity fled from Union space, and recording its performance would help improve our own designs."A simple motive, you suppose. "It still belongs to the hive.""Yes, but I hope you don't let it just sit here." He replies simply.>Agree to fuel the Clarke>Perhaps later>Other
>>33878265>Tell Theseus to share data of the drive with the Hive otherwise no deal
>>33878265>Agree to fuel the Clarke
>>33878265I can't think of much this could threaten, since it has no weapons, and he's already shared his memories with the rest of himself, so he doesn't need to escape anymore.He could ram it at us in a kamikaze explosion at worst.>>33878288That was already the deal in place, anon. Back when we had the option of revealing the Canderon to him and sharing it, it would unlock Gravetics and Gravity Drive tech.So presumably that's still the plan.Maybe he wants to cruise around the planet as his own mobile research station. Except he has no drones to work for him.
>>33878265Is he teaching us how to build this more advance drive or the older versions.
>>33878265"Very well, remove yourself from the Clarke's computer and share the data of the drive then we shall conduct the test under your instructions."Just have him hop back onto the console, but remove himself from the Clarke
>>33878265Agree to fuel it.
>>33878424Just a crazy idea: even if he did share us the older kind of drive, we could make a 'trap' spaceship if we wanted to. Based on the designs of the human ships we spied on their territory (and the Clarke), we could design a ship that looks like a human ship on the outside, but is a combat monster on the inside.No wait - what if we make a hermit crab kind of ship? All we need is a good debris field and we have our dormant army.Just a crazy thought.
>>33878265"And you intend to share this data, of course.""Of course." He says.Your workers haul the crate into the Clarke and begin to refuel the drive ring. It takes some time to properly distribute the substance within the ring, but soon the Clarke is ready for launch. You note that the Clarke should be able to dock in your docking pylon in the event of future modifications or repairs, although it would be an awkward fit.Theseus begins to run the drive through a series of basic tests. The drive ring shimmers like a golden halo as the canderon within twists and contorts the light around the ring into a tight band. "A six percent efficiency increase, and three percent stability increase over previous generations. I would greatly enjoy to see its capabilities in the field.">Place a thinker in the Clarke>Place an advanced relay in the Clarke>Neither
>>33878536>>Place an advanced relay in the ClarkeWe want instant communication
>>33878536>>NeitherWe can watch from the ground.Not letting him get a free sample of our drones, man.
>>33878536>Place an advanced relay in the Clarke
>>33878609If you're going to include an advanced relay, include some shock troopers to guard it.(shock troopers because they dissolve into acid)
>>33878536Let's also put a shock trooper on board.
Rolled 60>>33878532we make a supercapital ship right? biggest baddest ship we could ever hope to create.engines the size of a country, weapons bigger then mountains, and a comm bank to spook planets.we make it a replica of the lighter humanity gave us only made bigger.thats called a GG>>33878627this
>>33878536You have a psionic relay installed on the Clarke, fusing it into the deck plating on the bridge. It seems to be one of the most well defended locations on the ship. The relay is installed directly into the ship's systems, giving you control over the drive, although it feels sluggish and clumsy, especially compared to your own ships.>Take the Clarke for a spin>Dock the Clarke to your pylon and add modifications>Other>>33878532It should be noted that the Clarke in its current state is nearly indistinguishable from a standard Union vessel, although it looks damaged due to being repaired by methods other than a human designed shipyard.
>>33878833>>Take the Clarke for a spinOh, we're piloting? I assumed Theseus had the override since he's in all the systems.
>>33878833>Take the Clarke for a spin
>>33878859He is, you are technically both at the controls, like pilot/copilot.You can already tell it handles like a land train on ice loaded with a parade of panicked elephants, so you assume Theseus is better at piloting it than you are.
>>33878833test run then mods
>>33878833The stone dome built around the Clarke begins to crumble and cave in, the chunks quickly being devoured by a small sun floating just above the ship. Theseus slowly moves the singularity along the dome, removing the rubble before a number of thrusters along the underside of the hull fire, hoisting the ship up by its stern. The entire ship slowly moves into a vertical position, hanging in the air by its drive ring.The Clarke slowly gains altitude and eventually makes it to orbit and rights itself."The gravity drive uses the standard of the human world of origin, Earth's gravity field as a measure of acceleration." Theseus explains. "This ship appears capable of accelerating at up to fifty thousand gravities.">Punch it>Keep it slow and safe for now>Other
>>33879179Slow and safe first for a first run.Then we ramp it up.Ask Theseus on where we should go, maybe?
>>33879179>Keep it slow and safe for now
>>33879179Punch it.What could go wrong?
>>33879179Voting slow and safe, but punch it looks awful tempting.
>>33879179Punch it, baby
>>33879179>that accelerationWe can reach more than 1000x the speed of sound in a second.Let's hope we never accelerate in our atmosphere...
>>33879179Hey some quick questions:Could we research the Jelly producing fungus to findout what minerals it feeds on in a attempt to diversify are agriculture options? Did we ever read those books we found in the Clarke?
>>33879179>>Keep it slow and safe for now
>>33879179"Did you have an intended destination?" You ask."It will take some time to reach the edge of the system and build up enough speed to test the warp drive, but a short light year into open space should be a sufficient test."You activate the acceleration and watch as space contorts in front of you. The hive behind you turns red and quickly fades away, the stars bending around where it was as the light around you is slowly compressed into a tight ring. The Clarke's systems quickly compensate, altering the view back to some semblance of normalcy. It lacks the grace of your own ships, as if it is violently throwing itself through space. With the slightest movement of the singularity floating just ahead of you the ship jinks to the sides."Evasive subroutines are still functional." Theseus says. "Now all that's left is testing the warp field itself."Please roll 1d100, best of 3 for testing.
Rolled 25>>33879630heere goes
Rolled 21>>33879630i crit for queen
>>33879630>File: asfdadfh.gif (946 KB, 500x327)What an accurate filename for the first time doing a warp jump.
>>33879671Phew, this one saved the day!
>>33879630The ring of light tightness as the ship gets closer and closer to the light barrier until, with a sudden snap the view cuts to darkness. The light rumble of the interstellar medium glancing the hull halts abruptly and the drive seems to go silent.After an hour the stars erupt from nothing like a newborn universe, instantly filling the Clarke's sensors as the nearly nonexistent particles of interstellar space impact the hull like cold molasses."Two light-years per hour, by the looks of it. The Union have been making improvements." Theseus says as he reviews the data. Despite, or perhaps because of all the fuss you feel more than a little disappointed in the performance. Theseus seems to notice. "Of course it can't beat yours from what I've seen."On the way back you go over every detail of the system, measuring its performance and stability.>Research finishedGravetic MaterialsGravity DriveWarp DriveYou slowly ease the Clarke down into the atmosphere as it hangs by its drive ring like a massive chandelier, carefully docking with your docking pylon.>Add modifications to the Clarke>Leave it docked for now>Other
>>33880068...Hmm. A pity we can't hide it better.We really need to construct a second docking pylon on a different continent to keep it at.
>>33880068>Leave it docked for now
>>33880068What sort of modifications are we looking at?Weapons? Cloaking? A back-up slip drive?I guess we could use it as a sort of disguise, if we plan on raiding something and if there were any survivors they would say humans did it.
>>33880068>Add modifications to the ClarkeI say we should get it into fighting shape at least.
>>33880068Just dock it, we should keep it looking like a union shit
>>33871435To be clear, I do think we need a very-stealthy model like this to send with the Scout Corvette to scout out other worlds on foot and wing.But it needs some modifications.Spy FlyOlfactory: Advanced 2Acoustic: Advanced 2Radio: Advanced 6N 3MElectrical: Advanced 3N 2MPsionic: Basic 0Legs: Sprint 1Wings: Moderate 2Carapace: Adaptive camouflage 8Radiator tubes 4Mimetic skin 2Oxygen recycler 8Acid glands 1Size: SmallCost: 9N 1MUpkeep: 4NIt's a little cheaper and can't be captured and studied now.But while that's good for scouting out enemy positions, in terms of the role of patrolling our own territory, I think we can go a lot cheaper, and lay a fuckton more so we can patrol the entire continent cheaply.Sniffer JuniorOlfactory: Advanced 2Acoustic: Advanced 2Radio: Medium 2Psionic: Basic 0Mandible: None 0Blade: None 0Arms: None 0Legs: Sprint 1Wings: Medium 2Carapace: Basic 0Radiator tubes 4Size: SmallCost: 3NUpkeep: 1N
>>33880161You can add any ship equipment that you currently possess. You will need to pay for it, and its upkeep, but otherwise you can adjust its loadout however you wish.
>>33880068>Leave it docked for nowWe can't do anything with it without compromising its featurelessness, for now.
>>33880206No modifications.I'd rather not give Theseus weapons anyway. Or tech we haven't shared with him yet.
>>33880206So we only pay for the upkeep of the weapons and not the ship itself?I still think we should file off the serial numbers, stick a jump drive and turn it into a pirate ship, if we go into that line of business that is.
>>33880198Enough with your spy dammit
>>33880239This, we need to hoard our tech.
>>33880279I meant Blink Drive. I keep getting them mixed up.
>>33880301I'm a different anon. Yeah he's been tiring but it is useful and getting it over and done with would be nice.
>>33880198I'd rather see it with advanced wings. The jump in capability is well worth the marginal increase in cost.
>>33880363Is it?Its purpose is stealth, not racing things, dodging enemies in combat, or aerial maneuvers.If it has to run it's already lost, and getting caught and dissolved into acid is just as fine as escape.
>>33880068>Add modifications to the Clarkelets re-arm this bad boy.
>>33880349Honestly though, I'd rather we talk about it only when we need it, because even then there would still be arguing on what exactly to put on.
>>33880301Eh, I can see why he's pushing for it. I rather want some too, as well as more Shock Troops/Commandoes.
>>33880198These look alright to me.
>>33880391Getting caught and dissolved into acid is not just as fine as escape by any means, and also the increase in upkeep from moderate wings to advanced wings is soooooo negligible to give this thing that we're packing fuckloads of expensive senses into more surviveability that I think it's well worth it.
>>33880403It's good to have some aboard the Scout Corvette to send on away missions to check out a planet's surface discreetly, instead of sending big lumbering warriors.And exploring strange new worlds is the prime thing we're doing right now besides expanding our resource income.(M-199 when)
>>33880068>Leave it docked for now>>33880198Add Dexterous arms and advanced wings to the Spy Fly and I'll second the drone design
>>33880391I think we should keep the better wings, but I'm wanting to use it to find and track new lifeforms for study.
Sorry this is a bit messy QD, but I wanted to have a crack at drawing our bugs.
>>33880455I meant because if you're seen, the jig is already up. There's a bug spying on em. You don't give them much more information by dying there, in comparison.But it's not that important a change, yeah.
>>33880507Holy shit this is amazing
>>33880498Would increased speed even help with that that. Stealth and senses *maybe* help finding research subjects--I really doubt there are subjects that can't just be scouted out by a pack of workers though-- but once found you just send in the wasps, or the warriors, to catch the specimen.
>>33880507Cool beansThe warrior should've been in a centauroid form but what you got here reminds me of an insectoid turian/krogan hybrid.
>>33880523>>33880553Thanks anons!>>33880507Also, here's my design proposal for when we need superheavy attack bugs.
>>33880490I'd third the design with these modifications.We're at the point where upkeep and cost of land drones is pretty minimal and having the best of the best for scouts means not squandering opportunities.
>>33880575Small drones have comparatively limited operation time, I believe. The faster wings should increase effective operational range, albeit most likely only marginally because of the increased energy costs.
I was going to wait to comment on making the spy drone or not, but since were talking i think we should use it's senses to study the environment, how the climate effects the local life and how they deal with it's changes, to find species we haven't found for dissection and study, observe the one's we have as they interact with there environment, to gather information on area's we start exploring, and finally whatever it was ment for.
>>33880623>Small drones have comparatively limited operation time, I believeThey do? I don't remember stamina being impacted.
>>33880626And if we're feeling really skeevy we can put a dart bioweapon on one.
>>33880577Are they? Didn't remember that, might do another pass at them before next thread.
>>33880652You can't equip weapons on small drones, I think.
>>33880683And now my happiness is in pieces. I hope you feel satisfied.
>>33880683You can't, but I don't see why we can't develop a small drone with a Stinger.
>>33880068>"Two light-years per hour, by the looks of it.Oh good.Now we know the limitations of the GDrive.They can't travel near-instantly from Sol to the Expanse. Everything takes time.But is there any limit to how far they can travel before they have to come out of warp?
>>33880652We could possibly also develop it to take blood like a mosquito, but for scientific purposes.
I prefer Theseus over that human whats-his-name as our chosen ally/husbando.
>>33880825Silicon husbando *is* a good husbando.But what about squid husbando?
>>33880517Yeah the jig is up if they're caught/spotted but it's a scout in addition to being a spy. If the advanced wings mean that it can dodge the shot/claw/etc. instead of trying to tank it then it also saves us the pain of birthing and (more importantly) inserting another one.
>>33880833squids are zealots, 0/10 would not husbando>>33880758Ours and the Ceph's Slip drive are near instantaneous from what we've seen so far. We have the advantage in terms of speed.
>>33880866Go back to the Union, Lee.
Has QD abandoned us?or is PLOT brewing?
>>33880902PLOT is happening is my bet.>>33880881Stay boneless, Ceph
>>33880068Dock for now
>>33880902>PLOTwhat's that?He did say there were rolling blackouts at his place.
>>33880068You leave the Clarke docked at the pylon for now as Theseus calibrates the systems after the test run.Your new Corvette patrols your space idly as it awaits new orders, although without a cloaking field you let it remain on defensive duty. Your pods continue to observe the humans, although their progress is slow and inefficient."Hope, we found something. I think you'll want to take a look at this."An image streams in. It's grainy due to your poor angle but you manage to intercept it. At first it appears to be nothing but jungle, but deep within you see the glint of some sort of glossy substance, like a wall of smoothed obsidian."What are we looking at here, ground team?""We're not sure, but it looks like some kind of temple. Thermal's picking up nothing, and sonar can't look through, but it looks like most of it is buried under ground.""What's it made out of? How old is it?""Can't tell right now, but I would say it's old. Really old. This forest didn't grow over it over night. We took some more photos, pass them along to Fleet.""Roger that. We're receiving updates at the moment. The string should be calm in a few hours, we'll transmit them."You look through the photos. There is something off about them. One is a dark wall covered in roots and carvings depicting various strange creatures in an abstract fashion, another shows a vast wall carving depicting what looks like some form of battle. The last is rather striking, depicting an army of small creatures below a large being of some sort, curves and lines are carved around the heads leading upwards like waves."Natives?""I don't think so. They don't match the native life at all. Totally different biology by the looks of it.">>33880507I love the look of the queen. The head dress and wings look really majestic. Very alien. >>33880577Is right though, all the drones so far have four legs and two arms, although if you tried making one to walk on two I could see it looking just like that.
>>33880871I know that already, I was asking if they have a range issue as well as speed.I'm thinking of the nature of maintaining and securing borders when it comes to an FTL menace.I mean, *we* can just jump 25 lightyears into their territory over five blinks before we have to turn back and refuel.They don't refuel. They could slip into the space between stars and go right past stars we occupy and to the homeworld, probably.
>>33880652Ranged weapons on small drones is a no-go, but I'll give simple melee weapons the green light. It just won't cause much damage, if any, on its own.
>>33880974maybe we should stay off that planet
>>33880974Hmm, looks like they've found a temple to the old gods. Suddenly I want to destroy this expedition, and enter the temple ourselves.That's premature though, probably best to sit back and watch for now. Is there any way to move into a better position for intercepting transmissions?
>>33880974>an army of small creatures below a large being of some sort, curves and lines are carved around the heads leading upwards like waves....That definitely sounds like psionic masters and their servitors.
>>33880974Didn't we almost settle here?
>>33881014>Not wanting to preform researchWhat are you gay?
>>33881024We also almost settled on the world where the former servants of the dark ones lay in eternal torment.
>>33880999Correct. The warp drive is slow, but so long as you have power you can keep going. It has stamina instead of speed.
>>33880974Glad you like her QD!
>>33881024yes>>33880974Bad vibes man, let the humans take the brunt of the scifi horror while we chew on the hive equivalent of popcorn
>>33881074Just because it's a reference photo from Alien mythos doesn't mean that's what's happening.It's clearly representing telepathy.
>>33880974Large being - QueenSmall beings - DronesWaves - How we communicate
>>33881072We need to get samples and keep the humans in the dark about psionics.>>33881095Fuck
>>33881095good someone else got it we have another hivemind race
>>33880974..I now want go there.
>>33880974Delightful. My schadenfreude boner rises further.I'm thinking of finally laying a second Speaker, but a better model with the full mimetic skin and adaptive camouflage.Not replacing the old speaker, because I want to keep that one in reserve for talking to humans without revealing the new model, in case we're ever forced to.This one can be dedicated to Coil's cell and ask him to teach us his language more, have a Thinker try and get more of the nuances down.
>>33881095Well no duh.It's possible, though, that the large queen depicted is an artistic representation of Them.If we find no representations of void shards whatsoever, then yeah it's settled to be a different race entirely.But I wouldn't rule out Them being the 'queens' yet.
>>33881095That was my first thought too, we should prepare to remove the humans and take it.And make popcorn, as suggested by >>33881074, this isn't gonna go well for the humans.
>>33881117We need to purge the humans quickly and efficiently.
>>33881053Could we jump with our slip drive while using the human's drive?
>>33881095>>33881112Makes one wonder exactly how long we were sitting out there in that nebula, doesn't it?
>>33880825Scum! Lee is best husbando
>>33881112>>33881095>>33881087One thing is for sure, it depicts telepathy and so far we and Them are the only species with it.Now would probably be an opportunity to deploy spyflies.
>>33881134we upgraded the old speaker
>>33881169Indeed, let's withdraw our stealth corvette immediately and deploy some spyflies to get a closer view of the action.
>>33881095decloak in orbit, and kill the humansI'm think some queen was on that planet a long time ago, hence the "underground temple". We should kill the humans and excavate the temple.
>>33881167We could telephone up our own race you know.
>>33881178Did we?...Oh, so we did.It should go learn Coil's language then.
>>33881134...he's already been recycled anon.
>>33881188No, let's not kill the humans. Too conspicuous.Land the Corvette on the far side of the world, and deploy the camouflaged drones to inspect anything interesting.The temple can't be the only one.
>>33881183Lets give them some explosive glands so we can take the humans out if needed.
>>33881189Could we? I've been wondering why our advanced telepathy relays didn't plug into any that other queens had made, I put it down to distance and fluffed out quirks of the communications system, but now I wonder.
>>33880974"So you're saying it isn't native? Are you sure, ground team?""Can't be sure of anything yet until we actually manage to get inside. We think we found a door, but there doesn't seem to be any mechanism to open it. Just these carvings. Let us know when you get a response from the Fleet.""Roger. Should be a few hours before we can transmit, we'll keep you posted."
>>33881208The humans said there was nothing on sonar on thermal and likely found the place on foot. We can't exactly do that on the other side of an alien world we have no idea about while still being hidden from humans.
>>33881208Good point, how about we land and pretend to be the native population?
>>33881208the temple might just be a hive.
>>33881189No we can't.Mother didn't send one of her advanced psionic relays on our pod.It's obviously a Kal-El situation, where they didn't have the time or the resource to wait for Queenie to mature, or equip her with communication. They sent out a chrysalis with a lone Thinker.They were clearly in desperate straits.
>>33881188>>33881208We only have a pod on site guys. Our corvette is near the desert planet, I think.
>>33881221A few hours, eh?EHHH?
>>33881208It's even more conspicuous if they find clues regarding our race.
>>33881221>e think we found a door, but there doesn't seem to be any mechanism to open it. Just these carvings.Haha, time to think friend and enter.Only telepaths may pass.
>>33881241EXACTLY!! There is a reason they can submit yet, it leaves us time to DO SOMTHING
>>33881240And it can be withdrawn in the blink of an eye. Without even a chance of being sighted because the Valen down there seem to scrapped their ship entirely.
>>33881221Call in the unity to launch a raid then if we want to risk it
>>33881241Makes me suspicious of whether we'll be able to open it with our telepathy or not. Probably so.
>>33881255While an intriguing possibility.I don't think we can afford the firepower to take them down.We could consult Theseus on the matter of the USV Hope, he might help us hack them but that might not be enough.
>>33881257And we can use it to torch their ships.
>>33881262>>33881262I'd support that course of action. We have any number of invaluable research projects to trade in exchange.>>33881279Their ships are designed to be unhackable by the Unity.
>>33881279I think we should have a vote on intervention or to just watch
>>33881292I'm somewhat doubtful that Unity would commit to an assault on a fledgling Union colony for what amounts to archeology.
>>33881292Only once they resort to analog computers as backup.It denies them their normal, high powered quantum computers. It's a significant handicap.Also, consider the class and size of the USV Hope, and the likelihood of containing very large megaton missiles, versus our own capabilities.
>>33881293If we don't intervene information about our race will leak out.
>>33881279Probably the most useful thing to do right now would be either block the signal or stop them from transmitting in first place, buy ourselves more time.
>>33881325Are you sure?I don't think that's imminent danger.They can't even enter the temple without being psychic.
>>33881292On intervention, we could request Unity to perform a raid and we can slip in undetected during the chaos, but we don't exactly trust Unity very well at the moment and we trust them even less with the potential information that could be found in that temple.
>>33881330If Theseus hacks the Hope, will that destroy their FTLComm?That'd be ideal. But they could escape the system physically if they're not destroyed.
>>33881279Our corvette is pretty capable of taking them down by itself, if I'm reading things right. There's a massive boon to the attacking force in space battles, and our ship is specifically designed to be a burst DPS ambusher.
>>33881323Oh shit! Remember those nukes we have?
>>33881330FTLcomm is impossible to block.>>33881342If we don't kill them it'll be harder to cover up
>>33881325That's quite the assumption there. If the carvings were depicting members of our race, don't you think that would have been mentioned anyway?We have to weigh the potential benefit of whatever is in this temple with the consequences of attacking the Union. Even if we pull off the attack successfully, Union presence and aggressiveness will increase as a result of their losing a ship and a colony.
>>33881221You ponder the situation for a moment. The Hope will be unable to broadcast for help while it is receiving data from its Quantum communicator. It would be the perfect opportunity to clear the area and investigate this planet yourself, but if the attack was fumbled things could escalate quickly. Sneaking onto the planet would be even more risky, but it's hard to say for sure. Of course you never know if the Unity would be willing to help and take the blame for the attack, but that could cost you.>Stand back and observe, permit the USV Hope to transmit the data of the alien temple to the Union>Send your Scout Corvette to launch a surprise attack>Ask the Unity to launch a raid on your behalf>Other
>>33881381>Send your Scout Corvette to launch a surprise attack>Ask the Unity to launch a raid on your behalf
>>33881381>Stand back and observe, permit the USV Hope to transmit the data of the alien temple to the Union
>>33881381>Ask the Unity to launch a raid on your behalfI'm curious what scale of research they'd ask for.
>>33881381>Surprise AttackGiving the Unity the information is just as bad as giving it to the Union
>>33881381>Send your Scout Corvette to launch a surprise attack
>>33881317Likewise, but when we offer them, say, the opportunity to check out a slip-drive or the ceph cloaking tech or a Void Crystal...>>33881323And? All the missiles in the world will do it no good when our Corvette pops out of stealth 2 miles from its engine core and unleashes plasma hell on it.Also so long as they don't use wifi and keep most of their computer systems isolated from one another (they do both) they're pretty much immune to hacking in a space battle.
>>33881381This right here is why I wanted our second corvette to be the same class as the first. I would feel a loooot better about sending two stealthed corvettes into this situation.
>>33881381>>Stand back and observe, permit the USV Hope to transmit the data of the alien temple to the Unionor>Ask the Unity to launch a raid on your behalf
>>33881381>Send your Scout Corvette to launch a surprise attackWith any luck we'll cripple them badly enough they won't get word out.
>>33881412But we aren't giving Unity any real information.We're just asking them to clear the area.
>>33881381>>Ask the Unity to launch a raid on your behalfLots of unknown long term variables>>Send your Scout Corvette to launch a surprise attackNope, we dont want a war this soon>>Ask the Unity to launch a raid on your behalfThe choice with the least risk of discovery, though we don't know if we can trust Unity with the data inside the temple
>>33881416Giving the Unity those technologies seems more risky than letting the Union bumble around this temple, honestly.
>>33881381>>Send your Scout Corvette to launch a surprise attack
>>33881352I'd much sooner have the Unity find on the information in that temple than the Union. At least we have working diplomatic relations with the Unity, and they haven't been hostile, and in fact they sort of owe us.
>>33881443Unity won't be getting inside the temple any more than the humans, unless we help them inside.>>33881452Slip drive would be interesting, because they can't actually use it. It would give them insight into how the Ceph operate, that's all.Oh. We could sell them information about the Skyl.
>>33881381>>Ask the Unity to launch a raid on your behalf
>>33881381>Ask the Unity to raid on your behalf>Send your Scout Corvette to launch a surprise attack>>33881452They're only examples, anon.
>>33881462But the Unity can blackmail us, tell the Union we commissioned a raid
>>33881476Yeah, we should at least see what price they're asking.
>>33881462I think it's best to handle this in house. We can trade any info we get afterwards that way.
All we need to do is get inside, take all the stuff, then blow it the fuckup
>>33881492They can already blackmail us, we're already in Unity's protection racket, we rely on Theseus keeping the Union satellite ignorant of our advancements.
>>33881492Meh, they could that's true. They could blackmail us right now with knowledge of our existence as a spacefaring species too though.
>>33881381anything, but sending our own units.
>>33881381>send your scout Corvette to launch a surprise attackAnd>ask the unity to launch a raid in your behalf
>>33881526Nobody would recognize them though.
>>33881539Yeah!Coordinated hacking and burning assault.
>>33881526Why? we have an armed ship with the advantage of surprise. We can do this without letting anyone else find out anything.
>>33881381Your corvette quickly moves to the far side of Valen colony and in a moment is in orbit over your world.>Contact the Unity and attempt to negotiate an attack>Load drones (what kind and how many) ont your corvette for ground assault>Other
>>33881559No, but their alien nature and never being seen before would lead to certain forms of attention.I mean, in case any survivors can bear word.And "ships we never seen before" just a hop skip and a warp jump away from "new species we never seen before" would at least raise some shadowruns.
>>33881381Obviously this wont be useful for the current situation, but can we retrofit our other corvette to have a cloaking device? We really ought to.
>>33881573>>Contact the Unity and attempt to negotiate an attackYes, definitely.Load, uh...All the warriors and Collossi. All of them.Add a Linear Particle Beam to the mouth-mounts of the Collossi.
I just realized that Unity also uses gravity drives, and they would take a while to get there. Perhaps we could do a first-strike on the Hope before they call for help, have a Unity ship be seen in-system as a cover for our forces if there are any survivors then explore the temple.>Contact the Unity and attempt to negotiate an attack>Load dronesA Squad of Shocktroopers (5)30 Warriors2 Collosi15 workers
>>33881603This. All the Elites and what sniffers we have too.
>>33881573Warriors 12Wasps 18sniffers 2shock troppers 5 and a digger and workersFuck we need to make some warriors seriously we only have 22 and wasp are at 18What the hell we never made more bomb bugs either
>>33881603>Add a Linear Particle Beam to the mouth-mounts of the Collossi.I think you mean the superior Cyclotron which is designed for killing these people.
>>33881573>Load drones (what kind and how many) ont your corvette for ground assaultThis loadout. >>33881614
>>33881614>that Unity also uses gravity drives,But Unity "refuels" at gas giants.And they don't have easy access to Canderon from Wolf.GDrives don't require refueling.They've invented their own mongrel system.
>>33881614Wait, as long as we cripple the Hope, any survivors aren't an immediate threat, they can't communicate with their fleet at all.
>>33881650May want to add a dozen wasps too
>>33881638I completely forgot about Wasps. Of course we want those, and some workers and diggers too.
>>33881647>>33876292Not this again.The Linear Particle Beam is more powerful, and allows a *continuous* freakin laser beam. Hence the very high rate of fire.The C-beams have a very low rate of fire, they're very sensitive. A few pulses of devastating lasers, but they're far apart.A continuous beam is much more devastating.
I think we need some biological weapon.
>>33881592Yes. The ships are built akin to a Man-o-war, it's actually a bunch of drones that each act like a single organ, so you can take parts out and add parts in, but it costs additional resources to perform the procedure and there are limits to it.
>>33881693How long does it take to add cloaking to a corvette?I assume we don't have time anyway.
Aside from the exploring and the discovering, tense scenes like this are my favorite parts of the quest.>>33881691>Using an untested weapon in an untested environment
>>33881614eh why not
>>33881691Let's save the war crimes for later anon.
>>33881614>30 WarriorsDude we only have 22.
>>33881686LPB is inferior except when on a spinal mount it can't even be put on large sized drones anyway.
>>33881686Think of it like an AK vs an XM-8. The cyclotron is more advanced, but it's focused on making a compact design so that you can fit some of the punch of the particle beam in a fun sized pack. The linear particle beam is more raw power, but it takes up lots and lots of space.
>>33881738It can't?Oh. I thought it could be on large drones but not medium ones.
>>33881672Perfectly fine with adding that to.
>>33881733Then 20 then, add in 12 wasps
>>33881730>war crimesWho cared if several humane drones are killed? The bio-weapons won't reach the humane queen
>>33881749Only on ships and is most effective on the spinal mount because you only get a fraction of it's full power on any other part.
>>3388157320 Warriors5 Shock troopers2 Colossi15 Workers2 Sniffers18 Wasps>Y>N>>33881706I'd say about a day.
>>33881614>>Contact the Unity and attempt to negotiate an attackHello, Pest Control? I seem to have a human problem....
>>33881827>YNo Unity support then? Then we'll have to make the fist strike count. And hope that no one has a QEComm on the ground
Something's been bugging me.How exactly did the Clarke send an SOS that summoned that automated probe again?Surely that required FTLComm? Why didn't they get help faster and needed the probe as an intermediate step?
>>33881827>YAlso contact the Unity.
>>33881882Yes, beacon.But if the beacon has an FTLComm onboard to summon the probe they can just use that.There isn't another way to cross FTL distances with signals is there.
>>33881874I think the automated probe was sent after they failed to check in.
>>33881882No, actually.>>31746123>We let out a distress just before we lost the ship so there should be a rescue operation on the way, but in the mean time I was hoping to learn more about your people."
>>33881899The nature of FTLComms is that as soon as Clarkes was destroyed, the Union knew about it. I assume they ping eachother.
>>33881939Also the beacon was probably a radio since we had to climb up a mountain to get better reception which shouldn't have been a problem for an FTLComm
>>33881827Your drones file into your corvette and it quickly ascends into orbit. As the drive charges you activate the Unity FTL comm device. No doubt they will require something worthwhile to send an armed force.>Offer cloaking field>Other Slip drive>Other>Don't bother
>>33881980>>OtherLet me tell you about a long dead race of bird cyborgs.
>>33881980Intel on the Cephs.
>>33881980>Skyl Data (except the cube) and location of Skyl homeworldIts not like they can get anything more out of there.
>>33881980Any of these to start, then we'll see where to go from there.>>33882014>>33881993>>33882012
>>33882012Intel?You mean like, the nature of their religion and relationship with unknown dark intelligences uplifting and guiding their civilization from the shadows?I'd rather talk about the Skyl.
>>33882046Same deal there.
>>33882055The difference is that at most they'll find rotten infrastructure and dead bodies. Unity cant operate Skyl tech without psionics.
>>33882028The promise of whatever intel we recover from the temple would also be worthy of offering.
>>33882082I thought of that, too.
>>33882082I'm not ready to commit to that, honestly.
>>33882082Not worth it.
I wonder if the plasma lance will be devastating enough on a first strike to make their black hole implode them.
>>33882082Let's find out what's there before we start giving it away, eh?
>>33881980You string together a quick thought in the device, translated to an acceptable format."Requesting assistance attacking military target."The response is almost instant. "Target size and location."You quickly describe the Hope and the base camp on the surface. The response comes just as quickly as the first time."Request knowledge of FTL capabilities."You ignore the listed price. "Possess detailed knowledge of lost civilization and location of home system."There is a pause this time.
>>33882118>>33882108Eh, then offer them the design of the plasma lance or somesuch shit, we've got plenty to trade.
There were probably subtler, if riskier, ways of driving them off this world.Like with new biological weapons, we could have pretended they were native diseases and infected everyone that came to the surface.
>>33882144"Acceptable. Transmit all relevant data immediately. Estimated arrival in thirty minutes."The line goes silent.>Transmit all known information on the Skyl>Transmit most known information on the Skyl (what do you send)>Other
>>33882176>Transmit all known information on the SkylHave we deciphered the datacube yet? Or anything beyond their nanomachine cells?
>>33882163We're committed now, man. Not the path I would have chosen, but when we go, we gotta go hard.>>33882176>Transmit all known information on the SkylIt's not much, anyway, is it?
>>33882176>All known data
>>33882176>>Transmit all known information on the SkylI guess we're telling them tachyons exist, and that Skyl were uplifted to use them by unknown beings who spoke to them through void shards, before they rebelled.That's everything, right?
>>33882176>Transmit all known information on the Skyl
>>33882176>Transmit all known information on the SkylEven if they are an AI, I trust them enough.Besides, what could they ever possibly gain by fucking us over? I mean really, what COULD they ever possibly gain? Research data? We would share it semi-willingly to promote unity between us.
>>33882176>Transmit all known information on the SkylWhat exactly will they do if they know that there's an eldritch force uplifting races? Will they put two and two together and include the Ceph?
>>33882176>Transmit all known info on the Skyl
>>33882212There's probably also significant technical data about their...unique physiologies that'll be shared.
>>33882176>Transmit most known information on the Skyl (what do you send)Everything but tachyons. They're an ancient race who rebelled against an even more ancient patron race who gave them technology and was ultimately destroyed for it. They went startlingly far with augmentative technologies.
>>33882247I hope Unity doesn't feel cheated when we tell them the location of homeworld, and the homeworld is now a meteor field.
>>33882256I would tell them about tachyons, but caution them against heavy pursuit of the subject.
>>33882176Everything but tachyons
>>33882256They probably know that Tachyons are a thing. Doesn't help them generate them or make meaningful use of them or anything.
>>33882256I'm down with this, "tachyons exist" seems like pretty high value knowledge on it's own.
>>33882283Since it seems it's the purview of the dark ones of unknown capability.
>>33882283This works for me.
>>33882274Nah, they probably wouldn't feel cheated about that, if anything it would provide them a mystery to solve as to how the planet got fucked so hard.
>>33882296It would leave a rather glaring hole in the Skyl's story, though.Like how they communicated with the beings through void shards.I don't think it's withhold able.
>>33882176You send all the data you have collected on the Skyl through the communicator, and your corvette quickly makes its way to the human system just beyond the gas giant. You spot the Union cruiser as your pod drifts away to avoid the conflict.>Sneak in close while cloaked and use the Plasma Lance>Charge at maximum acceleration and attack with the Cyclotron turret>Wait for the Unity to arrive before attacking>Other
>>33882296WE know about tachyons in our modern age, they most certainly do even if they're not as aware of how 'common' they are as our insect player-race is.
>>33882325>>Wait for the Unity to arrive before attackingUnity is 30 minutes out and they said that the FTLComm is still unavailable for another few hours right?
>>33882325>OtherPosition ourselves while cloaked such that we'll have a damn good shot with the Plasma Lance, then wait for the Unity to arrive before attacking.
>>33882325>>Wait for the Unity to arrive before attackingSneak in close so we can fire the lance the moment Unity jumps in.I'm assuming Unity or the Valen have the trademarks to "jump drive".
>>33882256I am 99% sure that they know tachyons are a thing, but don't have any feasible means to make or utilize them.
>>33882325>Sneak in close while cloaked and use the Plasma Lance>Wait for the Unity to arrive before attackingUse plasma lance after unity arrives.
>>33882325>Wait for UnityUnless we need to hit them ASAP, in which case:>Plasma Lance
>>33882325>Sneak in close while cloaked and use the Plasma Lance>Wait for the Unity to arrive before attacking
>>33882325>Wait for the Unity to arrive before attacking>Sneak in close while cloaked and use the Plasma LanceOnce they get distracted by Unity showing up, we blast them in the ass.
Well, since we have to vent heat every so often, we should wait as long as possible while out of sight before sneaking close up when it's close to Unity's ETA.
>>33882325>Sneak in close with the Lance and wait for Unity to arrivePlease roll 1d100, best of 3
>>33882354I wanted to hold back on the tachyons because while we know that's what their technology used, nothing was forcing us to let Unity know we knew. Identifying the ancient tech as utilizing tachyons suggests that we are familiar with practical applications of them.
>>33882144>"Request knowledge of FTL capabilities.">You ignore the listed price. "Possess detailed knowledge of lost civilization and location of home system."Ahhhh, the clean, perfect efficiency of data exchange.So much less clumsy than humans and their "conversational skills".
Rolled 45>>33882415Could've been worse. Hopefully our bonuses and the Union pad this out for us.
>>33882415fuck, at least we didn't completely reveal our location
What can we say? Man's reach exceeds his grasp. Hubris is a bitch, just like manifest destiny.
>>33882451Ideally, the Hope will be disabled but not destroyed so boarding and looting can occur.
>>33882451The Union initiated hostilities when they put a satellite with fucking nukes in it over our goddamn hive. When war inevitably breaks out our only responsibility will be making sure we hurt them bad enough that suing for peace is better than continuing a fight they started.
>>33882481WE ENDER WIGGIN NOW
>>33882451Death...Or capture and experimentation?
>>33882466okay we board and take over the ship do we take prisoners?
>>33882498That depends.How much will expendable live test subjects help the Thinkers?
>>33882451So?The Union was planning on us either1.) Being significantly more advanced that we showed, in which case they would bombard us with nukes from orbit.2.) Advancing to a some-what advanced species and then moving in on us and annexing the FUCK out of us to make us a pseudo-slave race by maintaining a massive strangle-hold on us by keeping all forms of FTL to themselves.Fuck those 56 men and women, and fuck their entire government.
>>33882498We can't afford boarding. We have to burn them fast before they send a distress signal.Hopefully Unity can take out their FTLComm digitally by hacking. Or we cook it first.
>>33882498>>33882492Absolutely not, our combat forms are extremely recognizable. Even if the Union hasn't seen them before, they can connect the dots between "bug race that we suspect has FTL over here" and "giant bugs murder our crew over there."
>>33882498Bioweapons research would be much more effective if we did, so yes.>>33882532Witnesses wont be a thing.
>>33882532No boarding, for sure. They might get something out.The people on the surface, though?
>>33882556I guess that's acceptable. It's true biological manipulation research is progressing without dozens of test subjects.We have to ask the Thinkers if more subjects wouldn't help, though.
>>33882540You think we can get to their FTL Comm before they can? I'd rather not risk it.>>33882549Once their ship is knocked out, the men on the surface are nothing more than meat that needs to be killed before it sends out a distress signal. Perhaps we ought to have sent a Speaker along to try to make them more pliable (before murdering them) but that's in the past now, I suppose.
>>33882572It just occurred to me, how long would the radiator equipped drones last inside a ship being plasma lanced, I wonder?
>>33882572Boarding is acceptable if their FTLComm is knocked out in the initial attack.>>33882571There's really no difference between kidnapping and killing those on the surface except that the former is slightly harder and moderately advantageous.
>>33882614I presume you mean in sections of the ship that are being heated, but not boiled away by the plasma lances? Depends on just how hot the given area they're in is, but undoubtedly better than humans would survive in the same positions.
>>33882176>Estimated arrival in thirty minutes."And the blue star system was 4 light years away from M-662.Presumably that means that Unity's homebrew FTL system is, while expensive in fuel, faster than the GDrive.
>>33882620We have no way of detecting whether or not we knocked out their comm though, unless they happen to transmit down to the surface that it's been knocked out.
>>33882396Your corvette accelerates to Raligah, its cloaked form leaving only a slight shimmer in the void of space."Hey, there's that signal again.""Another super nova?""No, no, I think it's something else. Hope, requesting permission to investigate.""Granted Three-two, stay on alert."The small escort fighter quickly disappears from view, becoming nothing more than a dot on your sensors."Nothin yet. Hell, maybe it's just a pular or somethi-" You hear several alarms blaring through the radio. "Fuck, fuck! gravitational anomaly at six five five. Shit, it's a space fold!"Your sensors detect a massive gravity well in orbit above the gas giant and a massive metallic shape unfolds from nothing. As light returns to its normal shape the vessel begins to release layers of drones like a shedding animal."Multiple hostiles incoming, get to warp, I-" The signal cuts abruptly. The shape rotates sharply on its axis and a kinetic round erupts from the pointed edge of the hull.And you unleash the lance.A wall of white flame erupts from your corvette as the sheath of twisted light breaks apart around it and engulfs the Hope as it accelerates away. You manage to catch the rear edge of the drive ring just as it leaves your range."Unknown target in close range! Shields up!""Extensive damage on aft projectors, power failure on multiple decks!""Move to one six three, full acceleration ass-end! Load the fifties and bring the rail to bare! Now!"You detect power fluctuations throughout the Union ship, but as it moves away you see it flipping end for end to face you.>Move to evade the attack>Charge in close for another volley with the Lance>Fall back and pick at them with the turrets>Other
>>33882620True enough.Research will progress regardless. If it can turn a Very Slow research into a Medium, or a Slow into a Fast, though, it'd be worth it.Presumably because the Thinkers could then use the spaghetti-on-the-wall approach to Science. Keep injecting humans till you get what you want!
>>33882571Just for the record, test subjects will boost research greatly, and offer more reliable results.
>>33882661>>Charge in close for another volley with the Lance
>>33882661>Charge in close for another volley with the Lance
>>33882661>Charge in close for another volley with the LanceIt's not like we can't replace this ship if necessary. It would be unfortunate, but not a huge loss, and our plasma lances are likely the only weapons that'll hurt it more than its railguns will hurt us.
>>33882661>>Move to evade the attackDammit it wasn't enough.Time to make them lose sight of us again and come around back.
>>33882661>Charge in close for another volley with the lancePlease roll 1d100, best of 3
>>33882661>Load the fitiesHmm, 50MT nukes eh? They're certainly not fucking around here.
>>33882661>Charge in close for another volley with the Lance>OtherMake this a strafing run.Burn into their side.
Rolled 9>>33882714WE MURDER THING FOR QUEEN!!!!
>>33882661Betting "the fifties" are 50 megaton nukes.
Rolled 13>>33882721>>33882724>>33882727No fucking way.
Rolled 24>>33882727>>33882724>>33882721What're the chances of this happening?
Rolled 24>>33882721>>33882724>>33882727By the Queen's great cavernous vagina!
Good thing our robot buddies are here to pick up the slack.
>>33882721>>33882724>>33882727Bloody dice gods.
Rolled 80>>33882765Indeed. It was wise to call them in.It's also fortunate that we went ahead and made another corvette. Though this one we sent was kind of carrying our entire military. Still, Theseus' drones supporting a Speaker 2.0 and some Workers ought to be able to eliminate the humans and explore the ruin just fine.And that's important because we don't want to wait the 3 days it takes for new warriors to hatch.
Welp operation failed significant amount of our military likely dead ship gone cloaking device discovered GG guys
>>33882742I think the odds of 3 rolls all being less than 10 are literally one in a thousand.
>>33882727>>33882724>>33882721told, you not to send our own shit.
>>33882838It's fiiiiiine. Don't worry about it! Our ship probably got nuked into oblivion! Yaay.
>>33882714Your corvette accelerates hard after the Union cruiser as the swarm of Unity cruisers accelerate ahead of the server ship. You detect the initial salvo of the server ship impact the surface several miles from the base camp, far from the temple, fortunately."Hope, report! Hope, what is your status!"The hope doesn't give a reply as its hull is rocked with the recoil of its railgun and your ship enters a wild spin in the opposite direction. As you watch the stars spin you see a bright streaking dot of light erupt from the Hope and arc towards you.>Attempt to shoot down the missile with your autocannons>Attempt to outrun the missile>Continue your attack regardless>Other
>>33882860That's pretty preferable to it being left relatively intact for them to transmit images and analysis of, actually.
>>33882869>Attempt to shoot down the missile with your autocannons
>>33882869>Attempt to shoot down the missile with your autocannonsyou guys better not screw the roll up this time
>>33882869>Attempt to shoot down the missile with your autocannons>Continue your attack regardless
Rolled 26>>33882869>Attempt to shoot down the missile with your autocannons
>>33882869>Attempt to outrun the missileFall back let the other guys engage again.
>>33882869>Shoot down the missilePlease roll 1d100, best of 3
>>33882890The will of the dice gods is impossible to control.
Rolled 15getting bad rolls out of the way
Rolled 53>>33882869>>Attempt to shoot down the missile with your autocannons>Continue your attack regardless>>33882907
>>33882869>Attempt to shoot down the missile with your autocannonsWe're not that maneuverable. We'll probably get scorched, but I think this is our best bet.
Rolled 61>>33882907>Shoot down the missile
>>33882927>>33882921>>3388291161 is the highest.
>>33882869>>Attempt to outrun the missileWait.It can't see us. we can regain stealth. We can just dodge it.
These are absolutely terrible tactics for a ship with a cloaking device.Told you guys to just dodge out of the way before. Then we can sneak up behind them and backstab again. Hit and run.
>>33882911>getting bad rolls out of the wayThe ironing is delicious.
>>33882952We're not that maneuverable.
>>33882975Oh yeah. The Skid drive is bad at that I forgot. With the sun, the planet, and the gas giant, that's only about six directions it can go.
>>33882988Not to mention none of those directions is vertical, due to how accretion disks work.
I still think it would have been better, if we had unity intercept the signal.
>>33883057You can't intercept quantum-entangled bits transmitting to each other. You can't even disrupt it.
>>33883096There's no reason to get hostile towards him, he just misunderstood the pseudo-science their comms are based on. Chillax man.
>>33883116>pseudo-scienceIt's real science not pseudo-science quantum entanglement is a real thing.
>>33883116It's the same bloody lack of reading comprehension every thread.>>33883136The part where it can transmit information faster than light is the pseudo- part.
>>33883136Quantum entanglement that can transmit information FTL isn't though.
>>33882907You send your corvette twisting through space, trying to stabilize from the impact. As you focus your auto cannons on the incoming warhead you take stock of the damage. The impact was bad, punching a hole clean through the hull and almost half way through the ship itself. You detect multiple injuries, but surprisingly no deaths.Your auto cannons unleash a wall of metal slugs at the incoming warhead, filling the space around it and peppering the Hope with shrapnel until one of them hits. The blast is powerful enough to reach your ship, slamming into it and sending it into another spin. Several pieces of damaged hull disintegrate from the heat. As the explosion subsides you make out the silhouette of the Hope, its drive ring shattered where you had damaged the shields, and its forward cap is cracked in half and bleeding water, covering itself in a crystallized cloud.At that moment it splits in half as a kinetic round nearly half the size of your corvette slams into it at a maddening speed. The halves enter a spin, slamming into each other and tearing themselves apart from the force of impact. The remains of the drive ring begins to spin faster and faster until it flattens and begins to stretch. The forward half is quickly pulled into a close orbit and forms a flat dist around the tiny star until nothing remains but a cloud of ice and a select few scraps of hull plating.Your corvette is badly damaged, but it can still fly in an almost-straight line. The ground camp below is in a mad panic. You can see walls being turned over and small towers unfolding. Your own weapons are not powerful enough to reach them from orbit, but you still have some options.>Drop down to the camp and attack with the lance>Bombard from within the atmosphere with the cyclotron>Request Theseus bombard the camp>Initiate ground assault>Other
>>33883167>>Initiate ground assault
>>33883167>Initiate ground assaultAsk Theseus for assistance, can we retroactively include a Speaker?
>>33883167>Initiate ground assault
>>33883136https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light#Quantum_mechanics>>33883167I'm not even sure.Bombard from orbit?
>>33883136Unfortunately it can't send data faster than light. It can offer an interesting method of computation, and some potential of data transmission, but the closest thing to FTL quantum tunneling can do is the real world equivalent to texture clipping. It is both depressing, and raises existential questions of the nature of the universe. I refuse to believe we won't find a way someday though.
>>33883204I don't see the use of words."Everything will be fine if you surrender" is not very believable.
>>33883204Sure, I don't see why not.
>>33883167>At that moment it splits in half as a kinetic round nearly half the size of your corvette slams into it at a maddening speed. The halves enter a spin, slamming into each other and tearing themselves apart from the force of impact. The remains of the drive ring begins to spin faster and faster until it flattens and begins to stretch. The forward half is quickly pulled into a close orbit and forms a flat dist around the tiny star until nothing remains but a cloud of ice and a select few scraps of hull plating.Ah, Theseus, bro, saving our bacon.Wait, what did that ring just do?
>>33883220It's worth giving a shot for no more than a Speaker costs, though.
tell me why we sent this ship and revealed our selves again?
>>33883240the rings are a major weakness of the ships, its also why we had to fix the rings on the clarke asap.
>>33883248The dark temple was considered too important to let the humans know anything about it.Not even that it existed and was mysterious.
>>33883167>Initiate ground assaultI'd like to get our troops out of the Corvette as soon as possible. Once they're landed, we can risk it on air support, but not before or the whole operation is done.
>>33883167>OtherCrash the probe we have in system into their camp, then mop up with a ground assault.
>>33883167>Initiate ground assaultSince we're on page 10 I think this is a good place to stop. Gives us a nice, action packed start for next week.Will try to stick around to answer questions, feedback, complaints, ect.>>33883240The power tap broke containment, obliterating the Hope through the scientific process of Spaghettification.>>33883248You actually attacked while they were unable to transmit over FTL, meaning that while the Union will think something is up, it will be a while before they send a full investigation.
>>33883279I larfed at your explanation, it is quite apt.
>>33883297Do you feel happy now that we've finally attacked the union?
>>33883297Could we research the Jelly producing fungus to findout what minerals it feeds on in a attempt to diversify are agriculture options? Did we ever read those books we found in the Clarke? How long could the hive be sustained on it's reservoir if the need arises? Can we research the foam (the one used to trap are wasp) and the chemical that brakes it down for are own purposes? Can we look into the components we took off of coil's harness and findout what they do?
>>33883322>diversifyThere's not that much value in diversification, here. We don't really need a balanced diet.The stellar gas is more promising.
>>33883334I think anon just wants a food crop that doesn't rely on having a massively powerful EM field around, which is diversification that would be advantageous. The jelly-fungus is quite promising in that regard.
>>33883322>the components we took off of coil's harness and findout what they do?We know what they do. It's pure hover tech. We have that as a research subject already via the buggy, which is noted to be based on Ceph hover tentacles.>>33883297We could lay drones?Also just how low a bitrate IS FTLComm?
>>33883297>>Initiate ground assaultYou know now that stealth is over we could bring in corvette #2 to help mop up.
>>33883297>for next week.>next weekDammit. Such a long time here.Feedback wise, this week was far superior to last week, which had extremely little happening.Just one pissy crab.
>>33883358I doubt he'd like to specify exactly the bandwidth of a quantum-entangled comm transmission. It's theoretically as much as they want based on how many entangled pairs they put into a given relay.
>>33883358I figured that's what it's purpose was. I just wanted to look into it to see if there was any other functions.
>>33880974>"Roger that. We're receiving updates at the moment. The string should be calm in a few hours, we'll transmit them."Because even in the distant future, Windows has mandatory software updates.
>>33883322The minerals within the volcanic spring water of your new research base will sustain the jelly fungus.No, not really, just looked through them briefly while rifling through the humans' things.The reservoir is mostly used for your crops at the moment.Sure! Honestly, a lot of times I don't add something to research not because I forget to add it, but because I never actually thought it would be a big concern, so any time you see something that looks cool just point it out and say you want it as a research option.Coil's harness lets him float around using small hover pads, which are an available research option.>>33883358Not all that much, actually. It's really expensive, so most are limited to text or pictures, with videos taking a while to transmit. You can assume that the super wealthy would be able to afford relays capable of live video conversations or television programs, but those would be crazy expensive.>>33883383I agree. This week was a lot of fun.I didn't intend for the crab to be a major event, just a little scrap to break up the doldrums. The dice had other plans I suppose.
>>33883454Getting more curious as to researching FTLComm, but I don't think Unity would appreciate us cracking open our line of communication with them and giving us a replacement for free.I mean, it can't take that many Metals in input. It must be either something exotic, or a fuckton of energy.
>>33883454You are going to update the pastebin.
>>33883480We've got Lyle's FTL Comm.
>>33883454>The minerals within the volcanic spring water of your new research base will sustain the jelly fungus.Geothermal power.
>>33883481Which one? Did I miss something again?
Notes for the future:Ask Theseus just what the political climate is between the four other organic factions, and if all of them are ever-expanding like the Union apparently, and/or in conflict.Ask Coil just how many, and who, in Ceph history, has heard orders from Them, and what their directives have been. We need to know at least individual steps in the Plan.And further about Ceph culture, society structure, etc, whatever.>>33883454Is more in depth and sophisticated understanding of Ceph language a research possibility with Coil?>>33883481Damn Jedi mind tricks.
>>33883499Whose strings are irreplaceable. Unity we at least have the option of meeting again fairly easily. Deep Song? Not so much.
>>33883513Actually at this point I have just assumed you have been learning the Ceph language emergently. You are pretty good at it now to the point that you have effectively already learned it.
Could we turn the books into a research option?Alsp I thought of some potential Hive constructions options: .Armory Bunker (armory+ fortification against bombardments) .Hibernation Lair ( a specifically built room with bombardment fortifications to protect hibernating drones as well as keep the drones from filling up regular sleeping areas) .bunker Lab Hatchery.infrastructure important (fortify the doors and sensitive areas with metal).infrastructure important (create doors out of the memetic skin combo and use them as jib doors in are labyrinth to increase the difficult of navigation as well as create a two door system for exterior doors. The system being the previously mentioned door being used before the reinforced door to hide are entrances.
>>33883534As you can the new drive is missing as well as the bioweapon info.
>>33883560Stealth infrastructure for disguised entrances is a pretty good idea.
>>33883560I don't think those are really needed.The camouflaged labyrinth thing is fun though.
>>33883560We've already reinforced our infrastructure, but the use of mimetic skin is clever.The hibernation lair is relatively unnecessary, seeing as our drones don't sleep unless we order them into hibernation.
>>33883534Do you mean the stuff you unlocked this thread? I'll be sure to update it when I can, tomorrow at the earliest so I have time to write the fluff for it and costs and all that.
>>33883595It's really more to be a cluster of sleeping area fortified to withstand bombardments
>>33883622Which is unnecessary.
>>33883622We already have the throne room for that, don't we?
>>33883557Can we lay new drones now here on page 10?
Some ideas for drones:mud wasps (flying workers).hornets or locusts (a shock trooper version of the wasp)
>>33883654Sure, Feel free to pitch designs too.
>>33883668Lets replace our losses thenOrder of 100 warriors50 wasps10 shock troppers and 50 banlings
>>33883668I'd like to lay like 40 of the Sniffer Junior model from >>33880198As well as 10 Spy Flies, only with Advanced wings since people seem to want that.
>>33883697>>33883691I can support both of these.
>>33883691No banelings.We have a better version of them really now that we have Seekers that can deliver acid payloads.
>>33883655Flying workers aren't really necessary but I'm not super against them."A shock trooper version of the wasp" is a bad idea though. Exploding wasps aren't economic or effective when compared to other options. And we already have sniffer drones for aerial scouting.
>>33883697And with Acid glands added to Sniffer Junior, I meant to add.Since it'll still cost 3N to lay.
>>33883709The psychological impact of banelings might be worth hatching a few.
>>33883651It's more to protect the queen and eggs not storing hibernating drones and keeping tjem safe.
>>33883736Who cares about that?If you care about that tell them to have a sleepover in Queenie's room. They can groom each other's antennae and talk about husbandos.
>>33883709Speaking of, I would support a Seeker Warrior design. Nothing fancy, just the Seeker added to a warrior. No fantastic senses or anything. These should be supported by other drones and Seekers have inbuilt, well, seeking capabilities so there's no need.
>>33883751I'd like a Large drone, a carrier type, it'll have a seeker pod with twice the ammo.
>>33883751We might as well add some to some Commandoes/Shock Troops as well. It's a good weapon for them to have.Oh, we should probably get around to creating a Lictor-type at some point, now that we have poisoned weapons and active-camo.
>>33883697>>33883691This would be good at least
>>33883597Wait, what was the power source of the Hel's Angel?It doesn't have a Quantum Power Tap, obviously.And the void crystals didn't seem to generate electricity--they required power to be activated at all.
>>33883760A large drone with a Seeker pod makes an attractive support/heavy weapons platform, but I think more mobile infantry being equipped with them makes sense too.Speaking of mobility, I really want to research Magnetic Levitation to hopefully turn our large drones into hover tanks.
>>33883775I could agree with that. I'm not super thrilled with the direction they've taken, but an upgrade that keeps them out of direct weapons fire is something I can support.
>>33883691>>33883697So, QD? Can we have a Y/N vote or confirmation to lay?
>>33883797>Not liking operational operatives operating their operations behind the enemy's operations and operational linesThey're neat I'm just not sure how we'll ever use them unless we get involved in some types of warfare that are reallllly ugly.
>>33883710True. I just felt havimg a fighting unit with the senses and a quantum brain might be useful.
>>33883817It looks like100 warriors50 wasps10 shock troopers40 small sniffers10 flies with advanced wings>Y>N>Other
>>33883826Keeping aerial units lightweight for mobility is probably a priority anyway. Our Commandos are pretty chunky.
>>33883840YThis puts us in the red but we can stop laying after this until farms come online.
>>33883826I'm pretty interested in just seeing how various units react to having quantum brains. It's been pretty fun on the thinkers thus far.>>33883840>YAlso give 5 Shock Troopers and 20 warriors Seeker 'Nades, and lay 30 Banelings.
>>33883852No, let's not go further into debt yet.
>>33883840Just as a note, I'd like to arm wasps with Cyclotrons from now on. I think it's a good fit because they're accurate, powerful, have good range while the fragility and low rate of fire are less noticeable on fragile flying units that don't stay out in the open for very long.
>>33883845But, isn't that just due to there combat armor?
Alrighty, I'll add up the new drones for the next thread.
>>33883167>you take stock of the damage. The impact was bad, punching a hole clean through the hull and almost half way through the ship itself. You detect multiple injuries, but surprisingly no deaths.I still cannot believe rolling that bad didn't kill the Corvette dead.
>>33883891I'm betting the explosive glands have some effect. Point is, things add up. Especially if we're going to turn out Small versions of designs.
>>33883912It almost did, actually, but the ship was retreating away from you at the time, which reduced the damage.I gave you bonuses for being the attacker, the damage already done to the Hope's electronics systems from the lance, and from the Unity assistance.
>>33875915>With your current understanding of the limits of these alien biologies you should be able to assemble basic toxins and pathogens to target other species.>current understandingSo did this unlock future research subjects like Bioweapons II?
>>33883952We should probably put together a short list of Bioweapons to develop.Tranquilizers are near the top of the list for me.
>>33883952Sorta. It unlocked the ability to quickly build bioweapons in a similar manner to building drones, so now you can make up a new research project to develop a bioweapon to your specifications. Results may vary, and things can always go horribly wrong, but the mountain complex should help in that regard.>>33883924Yea, between the glands and all the advanced sensor adaptations your shock troopers look a bit more ripped, I guess would be the term.
>>33883990You mean like a strain of spores that can only infect humans?Should make it easier to contain and predict.
>>33883990tranquilizers for intravenously delivered form, and probably need a different research for the inhaleable variant.
>>33884040Makes sense.We might be able to develop pheromones for passive debuffs on the battlefield against certain species.
I hope that initial detection of a "supernova" when the Pod first blinked into the USV Hope's system never got logged on their FTLComm.Probably got not recorded at all, right.
>>33883993We really have to ask Theseus what Unity calls their drive that they refuel from gas giants.At least a name we can refer it to by.
>>33884124Let's play "name that FTL".Unity:Lens DriveBubble DriveBender DriveValen:Sing DriveDip DriveSwim DriveJump DriveHole Drive
>>33884182Unity: Space Fold Drive.
>>33884182Valen: Them Drive
Hey, please don't kill everyone next week, until you find out just how long the USV Hope's mission was and when they were due to return back home.Would like a rough timetable of when they're likely to send investigators to find what happened.Try not to leave too many obvious scorch marks on the landscape.
So I just had a idea. Does anyone remember the dead world we found? I think we could make it into a giant space station and we could build hybrid biodomes and use them to see how life we find on other worlds would interact with each other if introduced into a shared ecosystem without risking damaging there natural environments.
>>33884182Unity: Gravitic Slide DriveValen: String Drive>>33884246So hollow out the world and use its underground real estate for biome testing?
>>33884246What?What "dead" world.You mean the one with the Valen colony on it.I don't see the utility in experimenting with ecology. That doesn't nab us any good adaptations.
>>33884246I don't remember the dead world we found.
>>33884269Pretty much. It could have other uses too, but that was just the idea I had.
>>33884287I'd rather use it as a giant bullet.
>>33884279That isn't the dead world. It was a cold dead world with nothing of interest. I'd have to search the archive for it. It was only a one or two sentence description saying nothing of interest here.
>>33884313Jesus fuck colonydropanon, don't you ever give up?You really need to drop it
>>33884279It could lead to somethings of interest and probably have trade value to the unity as it's information they wouldn't have.
>>33884346Seeing which invasive species will destroy the others or be destroyed when forced into a habitat it never evolved for isn't that interesting as data.
For the bioweapons research, we should do this: http://oglaf.com/hypoxia/
>>33884324Do you mean the ice planet in our home system, the seemingly boring planet that turned out to be full of CARBON POOL CRITTERS, or some other one?