Old thread boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/33487742You are Sireyi Valyenya, 18 years old, you are on your first quest.You have retrieved the Horn of Alzurad: a legendary artefact that can call dead heroes back to fight for the holder of the Horn. But now you’re lost on another plane, trying to find your way home.You are trying to figure out the dark and troubled past of your captor.“Thank you for helping us” you say. Gendric doesn’t respond, lost in his own memories.“You want to talk about it?” you continue. He’s silent for several minutes then says “You ever have something happen to you that no matter how much you try to run away from, it always follows you?”>What happened to you?>Can’t say I have, no>Well I was ordered to marry an evil king once>Other
>>33491789Well, I was ordered to marry an evil king once. His court wizards captured me and tried to mindwipe me.
>>33491789>Well I was ordered to marry an evil king onceThis >>33491832
>>33491789>Can't say I have, no>What happened to you?
>>33491832>>33491841Guys, it was an experience that was only relevant to the revolution sidequest.
>>33491862I'm pretty sure backstory is important... and it did set up our future self I'm still proud of my 20 and rules lawyering
>>33491862Well, now it's kind of relevant again. We've resolved the issue successfully eventually, though.
>>33491862More like it was an experience that has lasted from the time it began to like a month or two ago. Thats actually massively relevant.
>>33491887>>33491893Would you really describe the debacle as haunting, though?
>>33491789>Not in the way you're speaking of, no.>What happened?The king is a thing we might bring up, but it's not the same thing as what he's talking about.He's likely referring more to his own mental trauma from the event, and Siyeri wasn't very traumatized at all.
>>33491930well it did drives us to onto the path of being a Paladin, but no, not haunting in the traditional sense. >>33491937This anon does make a good point. He really is more asking about trauma more than anything. So it may be better to just go no, not really and ask him what happened.
>>33491930It haunted us enough that we got a fangrill out of the deal and a bitter enemy (now deceased).I guess it's also a question how sympathetic he would be to someone who runs away from nobility rather than being exiled from it somehow. But I'm sure Sireyi can spin that to her advantage - had she gone through with the deal, she would be as she is now - a captive, just with subtler chains, and separated from her ideals.
>>33491789>What happened to you?Ask him what happened first. Then Sireyi can attempt to relate to him when he opens up.
“Well, I was ordered to marry an evil king once. His court wizards captured me and tried to mindwipe me.”He smiles very briefly, not looking at you “So how’d that work out?”“I resisted their mind-control” you say, not wanting to get into the whole thing “and when I was older I went back and helped overthrow the government”“And the king?” he asks “Was put on trial an executed” you say.“Hmm” he responds “What happened to you?” you askHe takes a while before answering “I was an acrobat in the circus, the master of acrobats was a vampire with a taste for children, no one in the circus seemed to know or care. Eventually I ran away.”>That sounds horrible>If there’s anything I can do to help...>What happened to the vampire?>Not all demon-blood are noble born?>Other
Eh. It doesn't really compare. It's not something that followed us, so much as something that we ran away from and then went back to and made right.
>>33491962So if anything, that experience had a positive impact on Sireyi.
>>33492002>That sounds horrible>What happened to the vampire?>If there’s anything I can do to help...The last one feels a bit...uncaring?It doesn't feel like a sympathetic response at all, and I don't feel comfortable choosing it.
>>33492002>What happened to the vampire?
>>33492002>That sounds horrible>If there’s anything I can do to help...>What happened to the vampire?
>>33492002Oh, so we read his mind earlier to discover the bit about the vampire trauma before he could tell us. Cool, neat.
>>33492002>What happened to the vampire?>Not all of demon blood are noble-born?>>33492011which is why it might serve to motivate the guy to emulate us or even team up.
“That sounds horrible” you say “If there’s anything I can do to help...” you leave your offer hanging“I wish there was” he says with weary resignation “But there isn’t, I’m just a demon-blood who gets through life as best I can, and when I die I’ll be doomed to the pits of Hell, because I didn’t curry the favour of the demon lords.”He has a rather...gloomy outlook on life.“What happened to the vampire?” you prompt“When I ran away” he says “I was taken in by an old human bounty hunter, a pure human” he dads significantly “taught me everything about tracking, and used up what little money he had to have a wizard teach me how to use my own magic. I owe him a lot, he raised me. When I was ready we hunted down the vampire together.”A grim smile plays over his face “I still remember the look on the old bastards face when I put that silver knife in his heart.”What do you talk to him about now?>I thought all demon-bloods were noble, why did you grow up in a circus?>Hell isn’t the only afterlife>What do you plan to do now?>If we work together, another child (Jal) doesn’t have to suffer (bargain)>Other
>>33492184>How does killing the demon lords sound?
>>33492184>What do you plan to do now?>Hell isn’t the only afterlifeLet's hold off on bargaining immediately, I want to get him by the immortal soul in addition to the feels.
>>33492184>Hell isn’t the only afterlife>What do you plan to do now?>If we work together, another child (Jal) doesn’t have to suffer (bargain)sure whatever
>>33492184>Hell isn't the only afterlife. Why, there's Tartarus, Yomi, reincarnating as a beggar...>What will you do now?
>>33492184>It does not have to be like this. Demon lords are not the only powers, and they are not invincible.
>>33492184>Hell isn’t the only afterlife>What do you plan to do now?Oh this is going to be good. We sending a demon blood to Heaven. I wonder if Konig needs another Paladin?
>>33492184>"You do know that the past doesn't set the future right?">"You're not set for hell, Do enough good and you'll get yourself in heaven">"Don't let that piece of shit vampire dictate your whole life"yada yada
>>33492259Eh, Gendric seems like he would benefit more from Magic Dragons God.
>>33492251>>33492226I'm going to second these. since it leads to him working to kill demon lords
>>33492184>Hell isn’t the only afterlife>"It is the belief of my religion and my Goddess that even demons can redeem themselves.">"She would not bar you from [heaven-equivalent] simply because of your ancestry, so long as you truly wish to redeem yourself and pursue such a goal."
>>33492307I don't care. I just want to redeem him and make him a Paladin. Its just so perfect.
>>33492329How does that work on this world though? We'd need to destroy the demonic barrier first.
>>33492184>>33492329>>"She would not bar you from [heaven-equivalent] simply because of your ancestry, so long as you truly wish to redeem yourself and pursue such a goal." Definitely seconding this dialogue as well
>>33492330He's cooler as a bounty hunter anyway.
>>33492330>turning everything into a paladin>noble girl with angel blood? Paladin>princess of country? Paladin>random merc guy? Paladin
>>33492184>>Hell isn’t the only afterlife
>>33492358You will be consecrated. Resistance is futile.
>>33492358>pic related.See, you understand perfectly!
>>33492358Frost giant shota? Paladin.Lesbian wizard? Paladin.Werewolf noob? Paladin.Bard who can't even play a harmonica and is really more of a ninja with magic? Oh, you better believe she's becoming a paladin.
“Hell isn’t the only afterlife” you say "It is the belief of my religion and my Goddess that even demons can redeem themselves. She would not bar you from The Heaven of Joy simply because of your ancestry, so long as you truly wish to redeem yourself and pursue such a goal."“Bullshit” he ripostes “Heaven is a myth, there’s no such thing, the old gods that some worship don’t exist.”“If they don’t exist” you say “Then how do you explain me?”“A sorcerers experiment” he says truculently, though you can tell he doesn’t believe what he just said.“Well what do you plan to do now?” you ask, trying another tack“The plan hasn’t changed” he says, suddenly all hard edges again “I’m still selling you to the priests of the demon lords. Even though a few others made offers. The Priests of the Demon Lords have the true power.”“Demons are not invincible” you say “And even Demon Lords can die.”He stares at you “You must be mad to think such a thing.”>Sorcerers experiment? That’s a lie, I can sense evil, I expect your own senses tell you what I truly am.>Let me tell you about the Goddess Velya....>What offers?>The only madness is believing the Demon Lords are invincible>Other
>>33492424>Pfw our group of paladin rolls up to the Demon Lords
>>33492464In order>The only madness is believing the Demon Lords are invincible>Sorcerers experiment? That’s a lie, I can sense evil, I expect your own senses tell you what I truly am.>Let me tell you about the Goddess Velya....
>>33492358>>33492424>You get to be a Paladin>And you get to be a Paladin!>EVERYBODY gets to be a paladin!
>>33492464>The only madness is believing the Demon Lords are invincible>Sorcerers experiment? That’s a lie, I can sense evil, I expect your own senses tell you what I truly am.>Let me tell you about the Goddess Velya....>What offers?
>>33492424Our adventuring party when this is over is going to be huge>Lesbo Wizard paladin>Werewolf scrub paladin>Giant shota paladin>Dragon paladin mount>Princess?paladin>Demon hunter guy?
>>33492464>The only madness is believing the Demon Lords are invincible.
>>33492464(gamble: roll to defeat the inhibition and risk of slavers taking advantage if he blacks out)>hold my hand and I will show you (redeem)(safer)>sing some prayer. Velya sounds like one to have singsong prayers. Something about celebrating life and new day after waking up maybe.
>>33492464>Let me tell you about the Goddess Velya....>What offers?>The only madness is believing the Demon Lords are invincible>Sorcerers experiment? That’s a lie, I can sense evil, I expect your own senses tell you what I truly am.
>>33492464>>Sorcerers experiment? That’s a lie, I can sense evil, I expect your own senses tell you what I truly am.>The only madness is believing the Demon Lords are invincible"I know why there's only two Demon Lords, not three."
>>33492464>mfw everyone's forgotten about the horn and the princess getting stuck with ninverthat and the giant as wellthis is the part where I wish I could say...____ the horn
>>33492581Lol who says I've forgotten? We've just got to get the fuck out of here so we can redeem everyone and turn them into paladins.I really only wanted Gendric to become one at first but now that everyone is talking about it part of me wants to make everyone a paladin.
>>33492581I think it would be fantastic if we showed up while Ninver thought we were dealt with."And here's the bounty hunter he hired to catch me. Don't worry, he's turned a new leaf."
“The only madness is believing the Demon Lords are invincible” you insist “If they truly cannot be beaten, why do they go to such lengths to insist the gods are not real? And wasn’t there three Demon Lords originally, and now there’s only two?”He mulls over that one, he doesn’t have a counter-argument“Sorcerers experiment? That’s a lie, I can sense evil, I expect your own senses tell you what I truly am.”“I can sense weaknesses” he says “Well, more like I can look into the core of someone and see what they are truly like, what do they hate, what do they fear, in battle this gives me a seconds notice before they strike. And I can smell, better than a demon-hound, it’s part of what makes me a good tracker. Every person has their own scent, that tells me who they are”“And what do you see when you look at me?” you ask “What do I smell like?”“I see...purity, compassion, love, a soul so pure I am ashamed of what I’ve done.” He says quietly “A soul too pure for this world. And you smell of clean air with nothing tainting it, of home, of...forgiveness.”“Let me tell you about the Goddess Velya....” you start reciting some of the basic doctrines of compassion, of joy, of personal choice. Jal is listening with rapt attention too.Once you finish, he is silent, thinking about what you’ve said.“What offers?” you ask, curious as to who wants you.“Oh those” he says absently “One of the Mistresses of Flesh, the owner of a gladiator arena, a wealthy collector of ‘exotic’ animals, and a sorcerers guild.”“Of all of them, the Mistress of Flesh offered the most, five times the 150,000 gold the priests offered me. I think the rebels may be funding her.”
>>33492768>Mistress of Flesh, that’s like a Brothel madam right?>Rebels?>750,000 gold?! 750,000?!! Seven-Hundred and Fifty Thousand?!! The Kingdom of Dornmers entire treasury has not much more than that!!>Selling me isn’t the only option>Redemption is for everyone, forgiveness too>Other
>>33492785>Mistress of Flesh, that’s like a Brothel madam right?>Rebels?>Selling me isn’t the only option>Redemption is for everyone, forgiveness too
>>33492785>>Mistress of Flesh, that’s like a Brothel madam right?>>Rebels?Lets not emphasize how much money that is. Thanks though Pally for giving us an idea of the economic situation>>Selling me isn’t the only option>>Redemption is for everyone, forgiveness too
All the things huh?(well, almost)Roll 1d20+11 Fellowship for redemption/forgiveness option.This will take a few minutes to write, you got here earlier than expected.
>>33492785>Mistress of Flesh, that’s like a Brothel madam right?>Rebels?>Selling me isn’t the only option>Redemption is for everyone, forgiveness too>750,000 gold?
>>33492785>Rebels?>That's a lot of gold. What do you think they want me for?Getting hooked up with the rebels could be very handy. And I wonder if .... maybe we should ask if he's familiar with our family name?(this last one maybe for a bit later)>Redemption is for everyone, forgiveness too
>>33492768>Tell him the truth of why the gods have forsaken this world.>Tell him what must be done for the gods to return.Even if we die, that information has to get out there.
Rolled 12 + 11>>33492880
Rolled 5 + 11>>33492880
Rolled 7 + 11>>33492880No more heresy for you, Demon!
Rolled 15 + 11>>33492880heart of the cards guide my draw
Rolled 10 + 11>>33492880Shine through the gloom and point me to the skies
>>33492914I really hope the Number 23 comes through for us.
>>33492949Well...it should at least be high enough that he just wants to take some time to think about it.We also did a lot of actual talking about redemption with a few write-ins, so that should lower the DC.And our negotiation mod is ridiculous.
Rolled 5 + 11>>33492984personally I think our negotiation mod is too low. We need it up to +20 at the very least
>>33493009Agreed. It really needs to keep getting higher. I still am not sure though which halo we should get
>>33493009I don't think that'll work, since skill levels (might?) cap out at the governing skills modifier.So we cannot raise negotiation above 3 until we get fellowship up to a +4 universal mod.>>33493034Lightning, definitely.It's just better, and I can't really recall invoking our authority very often.
>>33493058I just finished rereading it and I'm tempted to agree with you. If it was broader than just 'invoking our authority" I'd prefer it because I like the flavor, but its hard to say no to a +10 to willpower where spells are concerned.also >Call Down the Thunder to Me:and>Charged Halo:are hard to say no to
"No," he says, and keeps the two of you locked in the cage for the rest of the trip. He finds the piece of metal Jal was planning on using, and discovers that she is a girl. The two of you reach the slave auction without much trouble and are sold to a wealthy pig demon as pleasure slaves. And then you both got Pig AIDS. the end
>>33493118Not to mention, the +10 effective willpower also applies to spell-like abilities, as OP confirmed Wednesday.So our Lightning Bolts, Lightning Storms and Windblasts all get the effects of that bonus.
“Mistress of Flesh, that’s like a Brothel madam right?” you ask“Sort of” he says “they’re sorcerers with a focus on mind-control and alteration magics, their...girls are all conditioned to be addicted to their jobs, and are often altered physically to suit the clients tastes” he notices the look you’re giving him.“I had to hunt a client who was hiding in a House of Flesh ok? I had to find out about them.”“Rebels?” You ask“Yeah” he says “you don’t think an Empire as big as Drache doesn’t have people unhappy with it?” We’re in one of the outer provinces and the army is here, so you won’t see much here, but if you go to the rotten core of the empire you’ll see some strange shit.”“Supposedly one of the rebels key figures is a member of some noble house that defected to the empire from one of the human kingdoms Valvenva or something and” he continues “that she’s the daughter of one of the two Demon Lords, good propaganda machine the rebels have, but a bit too far-fetched.”“Selling me isn’t the only option” you say“It’s the only option I can see” he says almost apologetically “I’m a bounty hunter, this is what I do.”“It doesn’t have to be” you say “redemption is for everyone, forgiveness too” “I don’t know if I deserve redemption” he says “If I am worthy of it, and even if I am, will I still be me, will I be changed by it?”“The only way to find out” you say gently “Is to try it.”>Success, he’s cracking
>>33493133What happens to our familiar?Also, do we get to play as Bokin/other party member now?Don't leave me hanging, anon.
>>33493169Final argument, please pick only one>You have defended the weak before, now you can do so on a larger scale (Protector Path)>The Demon Lords made this world what it is, strike back against them (Avenger Path)>If you are to be forgiven, you must forgive (Redeemer Path)QM Note: There will be a final roll after picking the last option, the DC will not differ no matter the vote. No Gendric cannot be a paladin, he’s (in class terms) a Ranger with Half-Demon/Sorcerer powers.But the path you pick will alter his future powers to suit that path, and by converting him to worship Velya (as you are doing), even his demonic powers will shift to become more divine in theme than hellish. Think of it like a prestige class.
>>33493194Well thats pretty neat OP.>You have defended the weak before, now you can do so on a larger scale (Protector Path)or>The Demon Lords made this world what it is, strike back against them (Avenger Path)I'm leaning heavily on Protector Path. Thoughts?
>>33493194Considering his past history with the Vampire, I'm thinking>The Demon Lords made this world what it is, strike back against them (Avenger Path)
>>33493194>>You have defended the weak before, now you can do so on a larger scale (Protector Path)
>>33493194>You have defended the weak before, now you can do so on a larger scale (Protector Path)
>>33493194Velya would frown if we set him on the path of the Avenger.>Voting against Avenger, other two are fine.
>>33493034where do you see the skills we don't have yet?
>>33493194Avenger and Protector fit him best, I think. Protector is something both the paladin and her goddess would approve of. Revenge is not really one of the thinks I associate with the Goddess of Joy.>Protector Path
>>33493283http://pastebin.com/yKvP3AiPJoyful Paladin Rules
Protector it isRoll 1d20+11>in b4 /tg/ dice
Rolled 15 + 11>>33493356
Rolled 9 + 11>>33493356Here we go
Rolled 4 + 11>>33493356Oy vey
>>33493194If we succeeded here...the question becomes, do we immediatelly take on the slavers or not.If not. we could have him swap our power suppressing bracers back to the non. rest for a day to recover our powers. then the two of us take on the slavers together....Actually wait better plan, try to "escape". then him and you kill the hounds away from the slavers. they have 2 weeks until they reach their target. we can use hit and run tactics to kill them all.teleporting out to safety and back in to fight every day after a good rest
>Success“You have defended the weak before, now you can do so on a larger scale” You say, spending the rest of the day telling him about the more martial doctrines of Velya (protecting people from harm is about as violent as the creed of Velya ever gets).That night, Gendric lets you and Jal out of your cage and returns your equipment to you, asking you what you want to do. He also removes all of your restraints.As you are now within one of the provinces of Drache, it simply isn’t practical to care for all these slaves, but if you let them go, they may have a chance - provided you take care of the slavers and demon-hounds first.>The three of us are just going to leave quietly>Wake up the slavers, give them a chance to end this peacefully>Wake up the slavers, fight them>Let the slaves out of the cages, they can deal with the slavers>Other
>>33493361>>Success, he’s crackingI hope that means the DC is under 26
>>33493468>we could have him swap our power suppressing bracers back to the non.by that i mean the one we broke and is defective.heck, we can have him pretend to take us to a quickie in the woods for it
>>33493356blessed toughness is in the joyful paladin rules twice
>>33493468>2 weeksI don't recall it being 2 months and 2 weeks of time already.When we left, they said we had 3 months to reach the slave auction.>>33493486Or we could not do that since our powers are full enough to deal with some scrub slavers.>>33493479>Wake up the slavers, give them a chance to end this peacefully>When they inevitably refuse, attack them.
>>33493468Eh, if he managed to swap our magical restraints for non-magical ones, we could easily regain our powers and take the slavers on without much difficulty. He's probably the only formiddable opponent out of the whole lot, except for the hellhound pack.
>>33493479I think we redeemed the only one here who is redeemable.For one thing, he is the only one who hasn't been raping the slaves daily... wait, is he the only one who hasn't?Anyways, I suggest we escape, then kill the hounds when they send them after us. then rest, then come back and hit them hard killing all the slavers and freeing the slaves
>>33493486It has different costs depending on if picked through Divine Warrior or Blessed Health
>>33493479>OtherTry and lock the slaver in somewhere or tie them up. Maybe knock them out somehow?I don't think we could possibly redeem 30 demons, and I don't really want to initiate combat if we could just go quietly, even if it would pose little to no danger with Gendric on our side
>>33493504I thought it was 3 weeks to reach the auction not 3 months.thanks for the correcitonin that case we have months. we can take them no problem>>33493505EXACTLY, which is why i suggested it.we need a day to recharge our powers
>>33493479>Mfw when this worked out perfectly>Wake up the slavers, give them a chance to end this peacefully
>>33493523>, even if it would pose little to no danger with Gendric on our sidethey still pose a great danger and have a pack of demon dogs.He is individually stronger. but we are completely out of juice. and if we get recaptured now they will horribly abuse all of us and we will NOT escape again, it would be game over.We should use hit and run tactics and manage our magic so we could always escape, recharge, and return the next day
>>33493479>Wake the slavers one by one or in small groups and give them opportunity to surrender>deal with the demonhounds first though.
>>33493528If we do this, can we do it to each of them individually somehow, making sure they don't wake the others, to avoid 30vs2.5?
IF we are going to be absolute retards about it and wake the slavers to give them a chance, we can AT LEAST try to kill the demon dogs first (just animals) AND at LEAST try to use the sleep powder on a bunch of slavers first so we can free the slaves first and tie up as many as the slavers before they awakeI would like to point out that considering the slavers having been raping the prisoners daily, we would pretty much have to fight the slaves if we want to spare the slavers
>>33493561wait! I just had idea! how about instead of waking the slavers we go and gag and then redeeming touch them?there are a LOT higher chance of it working this way and they will be out for days if it fails!waking them up otherwise is utter stupidity
>>33493479I want to decoy out the Inuyashas by pretending to flee, kill them first, and THEN offer the slavers a chance to end this peacefully.
>>33493578well, to do that we should just "escape" normally, the slavers will unleash the hounds on us and then we kill the hounds as they come after us... THEN we deliver ultimatum. if they refuse we can fight them, if it goes south, we escape, rest, and try again the next day
>>33493537We could try and stay in captivity for a day/night to gain back our powers, big G could get us some normal chains and such, then hit at night.>>33493577Yes, I was thinking something similar, though I don't think we have enough juice for 30 redeeming touches.maybe jump them, tie them up/gag them, take them out into the woods, offer an ultimatum.. or just leave them tied up in the middle of the woods, seperated from each other.
>>33493597>though I don't think we have enough juice for 30 redeeming touches.do as many as we can, then go back to cage with fake chains.slavers won't know what caused it.
>>33493615Yeah, not like demons and part-demons can feel pulses of angelic energy.OHWAIT
>>33493597>maybe jump them, tie them up/gag them,if we tied and gagged them we could just redeeming touch, rest a day, redeeming touch, rest a day, until they all got redeemedalso, keep in mind that we need to hurry back to the storm princess and there is a good chance that she ran AFTER us and could have been caught as well
>>33493565>expecting /tg/ players not to be full retardNeed I remind how we got in this situation in the first place?
>>33493577>>33493597I just read the character sheet and>Redeeming Touch (1)>Demons are immune to this power.So I guess that's out of the question.
>>33493629good thing they are tied, gagged, and under the effect of sleep powder>>33493642they aren't demons. they are demon blooded humansprobably get a large bonus vs it
Y'know, I think it's best if we let the slaves decide what to do. It's the same thing we did with the Evil King and the citizens.
Can we get a numbered vote?I don't particularly feel like having to redeem a bunch of dickbag slavers just because a pair of newfags think that paladin = moralfag.
>>33493659The slaves will want them dead, what with being raped and abused nightly for 2 weeks.And honestly, I want them dead toowe redeemed the only one of them that was not beyond redemption
>>33493629I think if we try to fight, then we should at least take out the leader beforehand, either by sleeppowder/chains/etc. or RT if it could actually work, that should sap their morale somewhat.Or just kill him, but, you know, paladin and all.
>>33493479>Let the slaves out of the cages, they can deal with the slavers.
I would like to point out that most off the plans for the redemption are>I think this is a terrible idea>But if we do it, lets not be total retards about it and use plan X to do it betterHow many people are even for trying to redeem the slavers?
>>33493642Except that most pureblood demon apart from the dogs is already siding with us.At any rate, we need to deal with the hounds first regardless of what else we do.
>>33493710we have sleep powder... for hounds, why don't we lace some meat with it and throw it at them?easier than fighting them and takes out the slaver's major weaponAlso, our elf is a thief, she can probably sneak and release a bunch of the slaves quietly
Can we just fucking kill them? Holy shit, they are evil to the bones, they are evil incarnate. There is absolutely no fucking reason to risk ourself AND THE HELPLESS slaves by trying to do the "good/honourable" thing.
>>33493682Technically none of them is beyond redemption, it's just very impractical and risky to do it by magical means.Well we can always do it the old fashioned way:"Mr. Lipwing, do you believe in angels?"
Let's tie them up while they're asleep / fight any who are awake, then let the slaves decide their fate.
>>33493687Here's a better idea:Wake them up.Offer them a chance to surrender.They refuse.We use lighting storm to instantly kill 10 of them.Repeat for two rounds.End fight.
>>33493709We could wait 1 day, try and get G to drug their dinner with sleeping powder, then let the slaves out and leave?
>>33493739>Also, our elf is a thief, she can probably sneak and release a bunch of the slaves quietlyand arm themoh, and our halo is an AoE buff to allies and malus to enemiesSo if she could steal weapons and arm the slaves first, oh god it would be a massacre
This discussion reminds me of this scene...
>>33493741Why use the simple way if you can do more complicated stuff that will lead to tons of chaos?I for one would just leave. Perhaps steal some valuables, because those are useful and stealing from slaves is ok.
>>33493812>stealing from slavesyou made a typo but essentially that is what we would be doing if we want to let the slaves out, giving them access to slaver gear is the way to go.
>>33493812>I for one would just leave.Wouldn't that go against our code though? I agree on complicated shit though. We should just try to kill as many as possible without raising the alarm. OR, we could leave, gather our strenght back and hit them at full power. This is probably better idea
>>33493888Thing is, we are already following a plan to (hopefully) end all demon-slavers in this realm. We can't stop every time we encounter helpless people and evil rulers. It would slow down the overall plan.>>33493812We could also just kill all slavers and give their stuff to the slaves so they have a chance at pretending not to be freed slaves. Anything that doesn't take too much time.
Whether the slavers can be redeemed is for the salves to decide. Besides, there's always another way they can be redeemed...
>>33493888What about this course of action1) sleep the slavers2) sleep the dogs (permanently)3) free the slaves, pur slavers in their cage4) after that we can decide if we stick around and redeem the slaves few ones a day or just leave them to mob justice.
>>33493981Disagree completely.How about we just kill the slavers, kill the dogs and free the damn slaves?
>>33493978Hahaha, salves!I meant slaves.>ntnHigh arguments
In the interests of avoiding an argument for the next hour (fun though that may be), lets narrow it down to:Please pick only 1 from each category.Overall Plan1 Wake slavers, fight2 Wake slavers, parley (then maybe fight)3 Leave Quietly, don't return4 Leave Quietly, perform hit and run5 Remain hidden in camp, pretending to still be a captiveDemon-Hounds1 Kill Quietly (only way to avoid noise is kill in sleep)2 Give drugged food3 No special actionsSlaves1 Release pre-parley/fight2 Release afterwards3 Don't release (only if leaving quietly)Redeeming touch everybody goes under leave + hit and run - because it will take so longPost as much explanation as you want, but please put 3 numbers at the top of your post, i.e.Order is: Overall, Hounds, then slaves1 2 3textSo I can see them clearly, hopefully I've covered everything
>>33494029I personally wouldn't mind that either as a simple solution but it would feel a bit hypocritical after our lecture of forgiveness and redemption.Then again, Gendric was the only one who showed any interest while the rest seem comfortable with their (soon to be finished) way of life.
>>334940522 1 2
>>33494052>Overall Plan>1 Wake slavers, fight>2 Wake slavers, parley (then maybe fight)>3 Leave Quietly, don't return>4 Leave Quietly, perform hit and run>5 Remain hidden in camp, pretending to still be a captiveWHERE IS THE OPTION TO KILL THEM IN THEIR SLEEP?Demon-Hounds1 Kill Quietly (only way to avoid noise is kill in sleep)Slaves2 Release afterwards
>>334940522, 2, 2
>>33494074>Saving a bounty hunter with clear regrets is the same as trying to save unrepentant rapist slaverslolno
>>334940522 1 2Freeing the slaves first means they get in the way. We can murder hobo the shit out of them by ourself if we have to
>>33494092>WHERE IS THE OPTION TO KILL THEM IN THEIR SLEEP?Oh ok6 - Kill all part-human slavers in sleep (roll vs fall, Extreme)
>>33494100This.For fucks sake, why are you people so retarded. Talking with them will lead you nowhere and only make them better prepared to fight.
>>334940522 1 2Sireyi is pretty powerful, especially compared to these jokers, and our new half-demon buddy is no slouch either.
>>334940522 1 2>OverallDisarm before waking, offer ultimatum: flee and live or die>Demon-houndscoup de grace those shits.>Slavesrelease afterwards
>>334940522 1 22 because we need to give them a sort of chance.1 because they can hardly be redeemed or reasoned with2 because they would only be in harms way beforehand.
2 2 2we could kill their leader without parley then go one-by-one on others, also what does out religion say about killing demonhounds in their sleep (if it's no biggie then we can kill them after drugging them).>>33494052
>>334940521, 2, 1
>>33494126>The most optimal way of killing absolutely evil people, safely saving score of slaves which were beaten and raped by said people. At the same time when we are not at full power and are clearly outnumbered>Hurr durr, roll not to fallYeah, no, fuck that.
Does Khorne get paladins?
>>33494218If you really care so much about our full power, we can always leave and come back.
>>33494218Someone's butthurt.Nobody else bitched but you, there wouldn't have been any support for your option.It's also not even optimal, Siyeri is monstrously powerful and we aren't even that far from full strength, it's faster to just kill them all.>>3349422640kids pls.
>>334940522 2 2
>>33494234>>33494246>>33494255Nah, I mean, "fuck that option even though rolling for not falling makes no sense in this contest". Lawful Good doesn't mean lawful retard. Although I might be overestimating the power-level of the slavers.
212 it is, voting closed.Please roll 2d20 for stealth to sneak up on demon-hounds (even asleep they might hear you)
Rolled 2, 13 = 15>>33494316
Rolled 5, 20 = 25>>33494052OP, just to clarify, this is not a proper numbered vote.A numbered vote would be:>>33494052X Y ZAnd anything else in the vote, commas, text, anything, would automatically disqualify that vote.>>33494316
>>33494052>OVerall planmissing the plans for trying to capture the slavers alive and THEN decide what to do with them>Demon-Houndsare these sapient?
Rolled 11, 19 = 30>>33494316Righteousness must prevail.
>>33494355>missing the plans for trying to capture the slavers alive and THEN decide what to do with themby that i mean using sleep poison on them
Rolled 3, 14 = 17>>33494316PRAISE UR MUM
Rolled 7, 10 = 17>>33494316
>>33494355>>33494376The first is because you were the only person that wanted that plan, and it's an awful plan.The second is no, they're just big angry helldogs, hence why we can kill them in their sleep without rolling to fall.
>>33494343I think OP made that formatting for sake of clarity, not as a safeguard against samefagging.
>>334940524 1 1
>>33494389>The first is because you were the only person that wanted that plan, and it's an awful plan.>Everyone that disagrees with me is the same personno, you moron, there are multiple anons saying that>>33494255>Someone's butthurt.Make it pluralI am not that anon and I agree with himstop being so goddamn lawful stupid
As Jal keeps watch, Gendric and yourself sneak up to the demon-hounds that night as they lay sleeping.It makes you feel sick to kill anything when it cannot fight back, but they are full demons, and your code does not prohibit it.As you approach, it seems that although Gendric was perfectly quiet, you were not, as you approach one of the demon hounds raises its head and growls at you, the others are instantly awake and rising to their feet.>Back away, maybe they will go back to sleep>Attack>Stare them down, they always seemed scared of you
>>33494427We are not a gray guard, and even a fucking batman would not murder people in their sleep just because it was practical thing to do.
>>33494316the joyful paladin rules don't show that we possess angels voice 1
>>33494454>Stare them down, they always seemed scared of you
>>33494454Any option to run and get them to chase us?
>>33494474Write-in options are always allowed, unless specifically prohibited
>>33494427Okay, two anons.Against about 8 or so.So your plan is still unpopular.He also clarified that he wasn't butthurt, he also hated the 'kill them in their sleep' plan.>>33494463The character sheet does, however, and the rules don't need to show it since everyone that isn't a newfag or read the archives already knows.>>33494454>Stare them down, they always seemed scared of you
>>33494454>>Stare them down, they always seemed scared of you
>>33494463Stop trawling the rules and character sheets for typos and errors, that's my job.I've also already got a huge list of everything I've found that's wrong, I just don't want to interrupt the thread with it like you are.
>>33494456batman is a moron who lets millions of innocents die on a regular basisAnd what of the "subdue alive in sleep and then parly from position of strength" option or the "go out and rest for a day to recover magic" option?we are going to be fighting in melee without our magics. ugh!
Ok, roll fellowship 1d20+3 to staredown
Rolled 1 + 3>>33494593BAM
Rolled 6 + 3>>33494593
>>33494561ah sorry i was just reading to see what skills we can get and noticed that
Rolled 5 + 3>>33494593time to fail and die
Rolled 8 + 3>>33494593If this works, we still need to cage them somehow
>>33494601>>33494606>>33494613ok, so the hounds are barking and waking everyone upnew plan. we escape, the hounds chase us, we turn around and kill the hounds. then escape further and rest and recoverthen we come back for hit and run tomorrow
>>33494601>>33494606>>33494613We are soooo scary
How much juice do we have right now?Can we teleport ourselves, our elf, and firedancer a decent distance away?
>>33494648Instead of 'turn around and kill' change it to 'use Lightning Storm +3 to instantly kill all the hounds' and I'll support it.
>>33494721We need to conserve our mana to escape
The demon hounds respond to your challenge with aggression and charge forwards. Their barks and howls waking up the slavers. The slavers are not in the fight yet, but they soon will be.Your Actions>Halberd (+smite? +lightning?)>Lightning Bolt (2 targets)>Lightning Storm (4 targets)>Flee>OtherGendric>Fire Blast (3 targets)>Flaming Swords (melee)>Burning Shackles (restrain)>Flee>OtherBattlefield6 Demon HoundsNotes: Jal isn’t taking part in this fight because she’s not (yet) a fighter, she's currently watching from a hiding place under a cage-wagon.Halo is assumed to be lit unless requested otherwise.
>>33494737Mana isn't a thing, we have AE, currently at 0, and DE, which is currently at 17 or so and fully replenishes when sleeping.Lightning Storm +3 is less risky than attacking the hounds in melee, would kill every one of them and only takes 5 DE.Read the archives, it's hilariously effective.>>33494767>Lightning Storm +3>Flaming Swords
>>33494767Storm+4, Fire Blast+whatever, and make sure Gendric knows that Sireyi's a tank.
>>33494786Eh, seconding this. Let's get this over with.
>>33494767>Lightning Storm (4 targets) +4>Flaming Swords (melee) Wait until Sireyi fires off the storm
>>33494767Hit dogsthen fleethen restthen come back for slavers
Lightning +3 and SwordsPlease roll 2d20
>>33494786>Mana isn't a thing, we have AE, currently at 0, and DEwhich i am calling mana for shortI thought we were at 0 for both
Rolled 4, 9 = 13>>33494889
Rolled 19, 10 = 29>>33494889Praise calling the next poster a faggot
Rolled 4, 12 = 16>>33494889BA-BAM!
>>33494895DE was recovering at one a day.AE isn't really useful at the moment since we don't have any (real) attacking or teleporting spells other than dimension door, which is short-range.Lightning Storm is an Angelic ability and powered by Divine Energy.
>>33494889if we casted tongues would we be able to understand Jal's cant
>>33494967and i thought we were out of both.Also, doesn't teleport cost 10 DE?
>>33494988Nah, OP did give us updated DE count in some updates, look up. And teleport costs depending on how far you want to go and who you're taking with.
>>33494981I don't think it works on accents.And I can already understand her cant, more or less.>>33494988Teleport is an R3 Arcane Spell.Ride the Lightning costs one Divine Energy/mile and an additional 5 Divine Energy for every individual other than Ebby who we bring along.We can fly at 200 mph and have a strength of 21, so teleporting isn't really necessary anymore.
>>33495030Ride the lightening is a teleportation spellRide the lightening is the only teleportation spell we knowcalling it teleport is fine until we actually learn a spell called teleport
>>33495058I felt the need to clarify the difference between Teleport and a teleportation spell.Because autism.
You summon the power of the storms, revelling in what was temporarily denied you. A crackling burst of energy erupts in the midst of the hounds, causing their howls of fury to become yelps of pain, (DE 12/27), 2 of the hounds attack you, snarling and snapping, neither hits you.Gendric summons his two flaming swords and rushes to meet the hounds, cutting down one of those you wounded. 3 of the hound attack him, 1 bites him but is quickly shaken off.The slavers are now emerging from wagons and bedrolls, whips and swords in hand.Irigo emerges from his wagon, a thick bullwhip in hand.Your Actions>Halberd (+smite? +lightning?)>Lightning Bolt (2 targets hounds, 3 targets slavers)>Lightning Storm (3 targets – if targeting the hounds, 6 if targeting slavers)>Flee>OtherTargets>Demon Hounds>Irigo>SlaversGendric>Fire Blast (3 targets hounds, 5 targets slavers)>Flaming Swords (melee)>Burning Shackles (restrain)>Flee>OtherTargets>Demon Hounds>Irigo>SlaversBattlefieldIrigo27 Slavers2 Demon Hounds3 Demon Hounds (badly wounded)
>>33495058well if you wanted to be pedantic, we also have dimension door
>>33495080>Lightning Storm +2>SlaversThis way we can squeeze three out.>Flaming Swords>Hounds
>>33495080>Lightning Storm (3 targets – if targeting the hounds, 6 if targeting slavers)>Slavers>Flaming Swords (melee)>Demon Hounds
>>33495080How resistant are demon dogs to Gendric's fire? If not much, might want to have him finish them off with a blast.Sireyi could storm the slavers. Bonus points if Irigo is among them, to gauge how big a threat he is.
>>33495085I was wrong thenwe have 2 teleportation spells and as such i should be clearer on which to use in the future
>>33495080>Lightning Storm Slaverslets see if we can put the fear of Veyla into them like we did GendricFlaming SwordsDemon Hounds
>>33495080Storm the Slavers, Fire blast the Demon hounds.
Lightning Storm + SlaversSwords + HoundsPlease roll 2d20
Rolled 14, 12 = 26>>33495201
Rolled 4, 14 = 18>>33495201
Rolled 20, 9 = 29>>33495201
>>33495080Your Actions>Halberd (+smite? +lightning?)>Demon HoundsGendric>Fire Blast (3 targets hounds, 5 targets slavers)>Slavers
Rolled 10, 10 = 20>>33495201I know I'm late but I'm gonna roll anyway
>>33494126>6 - Kill all part-human slavers in sleep (roll vs fall, Extreme)out of curiosityis this because they aren't evil enough, or is it because it would be a violation of our vow to not kill the helpless?
>>33495269It's the latter.
>>33495226I don't have any gifs of Emperor Palpatine laughing maniacally while shooting lightning, and that makes me sad.>>33495269It's probably because we can't kill the helpless, including lesser demons, so part-demons are right out.
I'm having flashbacks of Sith Quest, and that ended terribly. We've gotta stop using lightning so much.
>>33495316in that case I retract my previous butthurt on the subjecti totally misunderstood it and it only now occurred to me that this wasn't a case of "killing the slavers would be evil so you fall from doing an evil act" but "you violated your vows"
You turn the power of storms upon the slavers, ripping them asunder, (DE 10/27), all six of those you targeted die, simply dropping to the ground, their bodies stinking of charred flesh.2 of the hounds lunge at you, neither hits you.5 of the slavers rush at you, wielding shortswords and whips, two manage to hit you but you don’t feel a thing.“She’s mine!” yells Irigo, flicking his whip at you and missing. Your his? in his dreams maybeGendric Continues to battle the hounds, dropping another one. 3 of the hounds attack him, 2 inflicting harmful bites.5 slavers attack Gendric, one hits, scoring a minor wound.The remaining slavers spread out, guarding the wagons to ensure the slaves don’t escape.Your Actions>Halberd (+smite? +lightning?)>Lightning Bolt (2 targets hounds, 3 targets slavers)>Lightning Storm (3 targets – if targeting the hounds, 6 if targeting slavers)>Flee>OtherTargets>Demon Hounds>Irigo>SlaversGendric>Fire Blast (3 targets hounds, 5 targets slavers)>Flaming Swords (melee)>Burning Shackles (restrain)>Flee>OtherTargets>Demon Hounds>Irigo>SlaversBattlefieldIrigo21 Slavers2 Demon Hounds2 Demon Hounds (badly wounded)
>>33495392>Same action>Same action
>>33495392Same for both
>>33495392>>Lightning Storm (3 targets – if targeting the hounds, 6 if targeting slavers)>>SlaversGendric>Fire Blast (3 targets hounds, 5 targets slavers)Targets>Demon Hounds>Slavers
>>33495392Do we not get to see Gendric's Hit points?I want to know how many he has.
>>33495392Storm slaves, Fire blast hounds.
>>33495392Guys, we are too low on DE and we can't afford to lose nowwe should collect our 2 allies and retreat and recover our juicethen come back tomorrow and try again.
>>33495460Still writing his sheet anon, gimme time
>>33495392remember that if we run away we have to fight the hounds. if we wait until we are completely licked before running we will be unable to beat the houndsso kill the hounds now.
>>33495489We take 2 DE per storm and kill 4-6 slavers each time.They have only 21 slavers left, and they'll probably start fleeing after another round or two of lightning.By that time, Gendric will be finished with the dogs and we can take Irigo, easy.We aren't low on DE, and Sireyi's AC makes her damn near invincible most of the time.>>33495545Gendric is doing good at that so far.
So same again wins out2d20 please
Rolled 9, 18 = 27>>33495566
>>33495562alternatively, 2 rounds of lightening reduces them to 12 slavers and then we are out of juice, and they beat us down, and we get bad end.
Rolled 5, 9 = 14>>33495566
Rolled 6, 11 = 17>>33495566
>>33495589>2 rounds reduces us to no juiceThere went your mathWe're using MINIMUM power lightning, as in 2 DE.On top of that I also stated that we don't really need DE for everything, given that our DR is 14 or so once you factor in defence bonuses.
>>33495588>>33495591>>33495598ok so, 9 fails our attackSlavers leader attacked us, so this most likely mean he disrupted our spell and probably damaged us. we are now too low on DE to lightening port 3 people far enough to be safe for a night.assuming we don't teleport into hostiles
>>33495663>Assuming we'd need or want to teleport>Assuming our spell was disrupted>Being such a newfag that you don't know OP rolls for enemy actions>Not realizing 10 DE wasn't enough to RTL away in the first place>Not remembering we can carry two people bodily and still fly at over 100 mph>Yes, our armor class is high enough that I'm not worried about being attacked during takeoff>Not realizing we still have enough for 4 more lightning storms and they do not have that many slavers
>>33495623anon, we had 11 DEwe just wasted 2, we are now at 9 DEfrom pastebin>You can bring extra people with you at a cost of 5 Divine Energy eachWe now can no longer teleport with both our companions since it costs 10 DE to bring them with us PLUS the cost of the ride the lightening itselfwe CANNOT ESCAPE
>>33495745Flying.Flying and 21 strength.How are you guys this retarded?Why would we even need to escape?Also we had 10, not 11.Check OP's last update.
The slavers scatter, trying to avoid your thunder, but they cannot, although they do avoid some of its effects, only 3 of those you target drop, (DE 8/27).2 of the hounds lunge at you, neither hits you.The five slavers around you continue to hack and whip at you, none hit you.Irigo, flings that thick whip at you and misses.Gendric drops another 2 hounds. He moves up to attack the hounds biting at you.5 slavers attack Gendric, two hit, scoring minor wounds (HP 40/46).The remaining slavers take cover near the wagons.Your Actions? options as aboveBattlefieldIrigo3 Slavers (badly wounded)15 Slavers2 Demon Hounds
>>33495785>2 of the hounds lunge at you, neither hits you.>The five slavers around you continue to hack and whip at you, none hit you.>Irigo, flings that thick whip at you and misses.BEHOLD!Sireyi's bullshit armor class!Same action all around.
>>33495779>Why would we even need to escape?you are seriously underestimating the power of a dozen slavers, 4 demon dogs, a boss armed with magic weapons, and poor rollsAlso, it occured to me, would the divine health ability have stopped the sleep powder we were dosed with?
>>33495785Save the DE for escape attempts.Halberd down the doggies.Gendric should burn some slavers.
>>33495745>>33495785Same action!Love how everyone just misses the fuck out of us. Pally, is it the dice trolling you or is it really that good of an AC?>Divine Energy: How much Lord Helixly power your body can handle before you start hurting yourself. Once you run out of Divine Energy you can keep using powers, but they cost you hit points instead. You cannot heal this damage with magic, it has to heal naturally. Divine Energy fully recovers every day.>Once you run out of Divine Energy you can keep using powers, but they cost you hit points instead. Please learn to fucking read newfag
>>33495785>angel voice>"Flee for your lives. Your slaving days are over.">"DO be afraid."
>>33495850well damn, i was not aware that we can burn HP for DE...in that case we have a LOT left
>>33495785Save our DE. We can kill all of them single-handedly, there is no need to waste DE right now.
>>33495785>The remaining slavers take cover near the wagons.Do NOT use the lightning storm near the wagons! We could hit the civilians.
>>33495851no, fuck that. we fight them until they decide to surrender. We are far too weakened right now to risk wasting an action and dammit they have been raping the slaves every day and it pisses me off
>>33495850>is it the dice trolling you or is it really that good of an AC?Yessame and same, roll 2d20
>>33495785Irigo>>33495785>Irigo, flings that thick whip at you and misses.that whip worries me, i bet its magical. what if it has paralysis poison on it? a single strike and a failed con roll could be game over
Rolled 13, 20 = 33>>33495921
Rolled 10, 18 = 28>>33495860...what upsets me about this is I've mentioned that like 4-5 times today. >>33495921Hahaha. Good to know Pally. rolling
>>33495921Dammit, don't aim at or near the wagong.
Rolled 3, 15 = 18>>33495921>answering an either/or question with 'yes'
>>33495871good point. no more lightening>>33495938>...what upsets me about this is I've mentioned that like 4-5 times today. first time i see it
>>33495850Still, the regeneration of that is atrocious. I would like to save that for emergencies.
>>33495934Our con bonus is +6 and we have a healing ability that may or may not work on poison.OP outright stated there won't be any VN style bad ends.On top of that our DR is ludicrous, hitting us would require a very high roll on his part.>>33495975Your opinion became invalid when you decided to start acting like a sociopath in regards to the slaves.
>>33495975>pic related>>33495969Jesus you must be knew then. Well welcome and lurk more please.I just sperg out some when people keep saying we're fucked if we run out of DE as if once that happens we are totally boned.
>>33495850>calling people newfags
>>33495850>You cannot heal this damage with magic, it has to heal naturally.how fast does it heal naturally?
>>33496027I actually agree completely with Mathrian for calling them on their shit.If you aren't going to read the damn archives, then at least read the Pastebins in the OP.
>>33496011>Your opinion became invalid when you decided to start acting like a sociopath in regards to the slaves.Please explain. Do you mean because I suggested we can just leave because I don't want to waste even more time on small-time criminals given that we want to save the world?
>>33496027>implying thats bad>>33496028Iirc its like 1/day. So its definitely not something we want to abuse
Hey, when the Konig Krusaders come to put this world to the blade, do you think they'll execute these slaves for being pregnant with demonspawn?
>>33496112Yes, because not 'wasting' the hour it would take to save these people's lives makes us such a good savior of the world and wouldn't make us fall for abandoning innocents to a terrible fate at all.>>33496154They'd fall for it.
Mindful of hitting those locked in the wagons, you wrap the power of the lightning around yourself, bringing down those in your vicinity in a haze of discharged lightning, some of it hits you, it feels....good (DE 6/27).Irigo, flings that thick whip at you, as in, literally throws it at you. Or maybe he just snapped it a bit too hard.His whip goes flying off amidst the wagons and with a wail, he runs after it. critfailGendrics swords bite deep into the hounds harassing you; they turn their attentions to him, one manages to leave a bite wound on his arm (HP 36/46)5 slavers attack Gendric, two hit, scoring minor wounds (HP 32/46).The remaining slavers are cowering near the wagons. Two of them locate Jal and drag her from her hiding place, kicking and screaming all the way, holding her between them – hitting them with a lightning power would hit her too.The remaining slavers look ready to panic. The demon hounds are in a kill-frenzy and will be difficult to call off.Your Actions? options as abovePlus>Save Jal (How?)BattlefieldIrigo3 Slavers (badly wounded)10 Slavers2 Demon Hounds (wounded)
>>33496101>If you aren't going to read the damn archives, then at least read the Pastebins in the OP.1. the pastebins aren't linked in this thread, only the previous thread that 404ed2. the pastebin is massive, i read it and didn't see it there.3. who is lord helixly? Are you sure this is the right character because the quotes being made don't exist inhttp://pastebin.com/tsAx3JGTmeaning its from another character. do we know if our main heroine can burn HP the same way this other character can?
>>33496199Hey, you remember in the Amazing Spider-Man 2 when Electro made that one guy's heart stop, and then after like 15 seconds, he defibrillated his heart back into beating again?
>>33496199>>Save Jal (How?)ride the lighting behind the slaver.Can we do that?
>>33496199Kill the remaining hounds, and shout "Surrender, and we will spare your lives".
>>33496199>Save Jal (How?)The slavers holding her don't have a knife to her throat YETRush them with our regular movement and kill them with our helbard
>>33496199good idea >>33496235seconding RTL behind Jal and her captors>>33496200Joyful Paladin Ruleshttp://pastebin.com/yKvP3AiPlook in pic its the bottom block of text.
>>33496200>Only checked the character sheet>Didn't check the rulebinThat's even *more* important than the CS.Even if the first thread OP is dead, you go look it up on the archives before participating and read those pastebins.>>33496199>Windblast all three of them and fly to catch Jal before she hits the ground
>>33496255Then lets do that and disable the slaver. Attacking with the halberd risks hurting Jal, so we should try something else.
For those voting Ride The Lightning: What do you do when you get there?She's restrained by 2 slavers, though as >>33496278 has pointed out, no one has put a knife to her neck yet.Are you attacking with halberd, using strength to pull her away, trying to intimidate etc?What's the plan when you arrive?
>>33496378I say grab her and fly up with her
>>33496378Could we Windblast after RTLing behind them, and then fly and catch Jal?Other than that, maybe just grabbing her and flying straight up.
>>33496378>using strength to pull her awayThink is more safe.
>>33496378halberd them>>33496414and abandon our other ally while using her as a human shield?also, it would be seen as escaping and encourage the other slavers to come out of their hiding spots
I get the feeling that if we escape now they will just kill the rest of the laves and escape rather then letting us pick them off.
>>33496430Oh your right. Its not like we couldn't put her down somewhere, like in a tree, and then dash 200mph back into the fight.
>>33496430>Angel is now high in the sky>Clearly, she's running away and not preparing to rain heavenly lightning down on us from where the wagons provide no cover.We fly in battle all the time, read the archives.>>33496464We could shoot lightning *while* holding her and remain in the air.>>33496457That's why we aren't running.
>>33496464if that was our plan then we should have tackled her and teleporter her out and then came bakcbut seriously burning too much DEand we just made her a huge target by showing the slavers we will drop everything mid battle to save her.Our bounty hunter ally should use his brain and reprioritize into attacking the slavers, we need to eliminate them ASAP
Rolled 4>>33496414>>33496420>>33496427>>334964301- grab + fly up2 - Windblast + catch3 - pull her away4 - Halberd
>>33496491>Angel is now high in the skywhile carrying someone>>33496491>We could shoot lightning *while* holding her and remain in the air.no we can't, they are using the slaves in the wagons as human shields against our lightening
>>33496513Huhuhu, 4 is the number of death, but howse death will it be, the slavers', or our own?
Rolled 2>>33496513ok, roll 2d20Gendric continues to fight the hounds, you go RTL to Jal and Halberd-up her attackers
>>334965134you realize she is currently being held by 2 slavers, if we just grab her and fly they will both get an easy
My apologies, I was rolling a dice to dice actions, not requesting a voteI should have been clearer, sorry for the confusion
Rolled 6, 18 = 24>>33496553We fly up way too damn fast for that.>>33496541
Rolled 7, 11 = 18>>33496541Lol thought you were calling for a vote.
>>33496553both get an easy attack against us or her, possibly damaging our wings, or potentially we wasted a round as we just fail the strength check to grapple her out of there (2v1)
Rolled 10, 8 = 18>>33496541I don't think people realize you were rolling for action in absence of clear consensus
Rolled 9, 3 = 12>>33496541
>>33496571so are we waiting now?rolling?
>>33496619All rolling done, am writing results
>>33496583>Angel of death who just killed score of your compatriots materializes behind you in flash of lightning>She brings her polearm down on you>"easy attack"
In a flash of lightning you appear behind the slavers attacking Jal, a sweep of your halberd badly injures one, making him stagger back (DE 5/27). The other one puts a sword to Jals ribs, she twists and kicks and calls him all names under the moon but can’t escape. “L-l-let me go or I’ll kill her!” he threatens.Irigo retrieves his whip.Gendrics swords end the demon hounds he is fighting.5 slavers attack Gendric, none hit.The remaining slavers are cowering.Your Actions? options as abovePlus>Save Jal (How?)>negotiateBattlefieldIrigo4 Slavers (badly wounded)9 Slavers
>>33496748>Siyeri>NegotiateWe get a +11, just some generic, "Let her go and you get to live">Gendric>Flaming Swords>IrigoThe slavers are all cowering, they aren't any threat right now.
>>33496722you misreadI was saying that this is what happens if we do the "grab jal and fly away">Angel of death who just killed score of your compatriots materializes behind you in flash of lightning>She grabs the girl you are holding onto with both hands leaving herself open to attack, and try to fly away, while you are still holding onto her>Use one of your arms to stab her with your sword
>>33496748>full intimidation angel mode>"Flee for your lives, your slaving days are over.">"Be afraid. Be VERY afraid."
>>33496748>Incinerate the wounded slaver with a lightning bolt, and say, "Let her go."
>>33496748>“L-l-let me go or I’ll kill her!Deal! Flee and be spared
>>33496748>negotiateDrop your weapons and flee and Veyla may show mercy
>>33496786>"Let her go and you get to live"That is what he explicitly asked for.He is asking us to let him escape, nothing more
>>33496786>HerHim, I mean.I don't know if it even matters, half of us have just been calling Jal by her real gender the entire time anyway.>>33496794>Sword bounces off her platemail or the fact that her skin is almost as fucking hard as platemail>>33496810>>33496796You know that we have a lower bonus to intimidate than to negotiate, right?
>>33496837And if he decides to be a prick and stab Jal, we can just heal her and then proceed to fuck his shit up.
>>33496853>Sword bounces off her platemail or the fact that her skin is almost as fucking hard as platemailActually, I originally suggested explicitly that they would take a whack at our wings.
>>33496853Given circumstances when we just wiped out all those slavers, I think numerical bonus should give way to plot and QM fiat.
>>33496853>You know that we have a lower bonus to intimidate than to negotiate, right?that is an excellent point.>>33496861so is this
Ok roll 2d20Negotiate whilst Gendric takes the swords to IrigoAnd yes, a roll to negotiate is still required, to convince the guy with the sword that you'll actually let him go, that he doesn't need to take Jal with him etc.
Rolled 2, 8 = 10>>33496890hope I don't fizzity uck up
Rolled 19, 11 = 30>>33496890
Rolled 15, 13 = 28>>33496870Wings benefit from Divine Warrior, probably.It doesn't even matter, I doubt such a thing would happen.You're talking about the worst possible result from a certain course of action as if it was certain fact if we went with that plan.>>33496890
>>33496916I made the argument before the plan was decided onand while i am sure they benefit from it, our DR is not THAT high and wings are REALLY fragile
>>33496914>19+11=30We negotiate the fuck out of that slaver.
With a calm and soothing voice you convince the slaver to release Jal, he flies whilst she runs into your arms and hugs you hard, crying.Gendric slashes Irigo with one of his swords, leaving a wide gash on his chest, Irigo falls fack clutching at his injury “I surrender, I surrender!” he screams.It seems the fight is over. All that remains is to determine what to do.You have just under 150 slaves with you, and a dozen (former) slavers plus Irigo.Slavery is perfectly legal in the empire and Irigo is a legal slaver, so taking them to the authorities isn’t an option. You and Gendric and Jal could spend another 11 days going back the route you came, but these slaves were convicted of crimes in their home town – they’d just be made slaves again.You could simply let them all go to fend for themselves, giving them the slavers supplies.Unless you protect Irigo and the slavers from the former slaves, they’ll probably kill them. You could let one group (slaves or slavers) leave well before the others to avoid them crossing paths.And whilst you decide that...XPGeneral XP 8 (can be spent upon anything)- Mini-Quest Completion – Slavery (2)- Recruited Gendric (2)- Rescued Slaves (4)Paladin XP 5 (you can only spend this upon paladin powers, weapon skills and Divine Energy)- Converted Gendric to worship of Velya (3)- Fought and killed Demons (2)Angel XP 6 (you can only spend this upon angel powers and Divine Energy)- You didn’t kill any mortals outside of combat (4)- Used Storm elemental powers in combat (2)
>>33497070Now that we've freed the slaves, it's time for us to leave.
>>33497070Lightning Halo -6 AXP -2 GXPSanctuary -3 PXPBlessed Health 2 - 2 PXP -4 GXPSpend the remaining 2 GXP on spells, preferably some attack ones to compliment the new Halo.
>>33497070>Irigo and rest of the slavers is to leave immediately, without taking their possessions. Those will be left with slaves.>we will check on slaves' status, heal if any are injured or sick that would require immediate attention and protect them in case slavers decided to try something funny. We can later check by a scout flight that the slavers are fleeing properly.
>>33497070Isn't slavery illegal in the storms nation? we chould bring all the slaves and slavers there and hijack a boat to do so.that being said, they will try to escape and raise a warning. since we cannot summarily execute them we should just use intimidate and tell them to run.If the slaves later complain we can justify it to them with "my magics were exhausted, we were lucky they surrendered when they did, it was a bluff basically".Some might try to hunt down the escaping slavers for revenge... good for them.the rest we help escape.Oh shit, I just realized, remember some of the slaves themselves are murderers and rapists.They could take over if we just leave them all be.
>>33497232will the storm nation even allow half demons to enter its borders?I think th
>>33497254Yeah, we'll need to consult the court wizard before we bring our fiendling buddy to visit
>>33497070Imprision the slavers, they'll give our escape away. Help the slaves plan where to go (if there's another town or region they could realistically get to, make sure they have the ability to get there).Beyond that, we really need to get back to the Island of Storms, as things may be deteriorating there.>>33497136I'm pretty new here, but wouldn't the Crown Halo be a better investment? I know Lightning has some pretty great self-buffs, but Crown seems like it has powerful group buffs too.
>>33497232Pretty sure the Heartfire stops anyone with demon blood from entering the area.
>>33497136I think we should pour in our points into base attributes to get all the 1XP per 1 attribute bonus first.They are just so ridiculously cheap there is no reason to not get them right away over specialized bonuses that cost more
>>33497275No, not really.The crown's fellowship bonus only applies to authority rolls or getting our allies to obey us.The lightning halo gives +10 effective willpower to all spells, and, far more importantly, all spell-like abilities.Such as all those lightning storms we were throwing around.
>>33497297the heartfire is only a power sourcethe lightening storm that is fed from it is what stops people from entering>>33497314i agree that lightening crown is absolutely better. especially considering how damn often we use magic.I think there might be better purchases though
>>33497136>Blessed Health 2 - 2 PXP -4 GXPIf your reasoning for this is rapid baby-making then I disagree. It is rapid baby-making, isn't it?It would be better to level our sorcerer powers so that we accumulate enough power to break the barrier.
>>33497303Except the only attribute we could still get for 1 XP is...none of them.
>>33497335I disagree with your disagreement. Hopefully we'll not need this particular aspect of the spell for anything, but it's always better to have more options.
>>33497335The next level of Sorc costs 9XP and can only be bought with general XP, of which we only received 8.The reason for BH2 is poison immunity.>>33497329There aren't, at least, none that use AXP, anyway.
Angel lantern looks pretty good, it provides an AoE buff to defense to all allies in range>>33497339most of them actually. since its based on the BASE value and we never increased those, we purchased boons that increased total value instead.That is, the battle blessing that gives us +2 to con/str/dex does not count for the base value of those for increasing them directly.
>>33497335This, need sorc powers so we can get the fuck off this shitheap of a plane.
>>33497382>>33497335Someone was talking about disease immunity last thread & the thread before. If it works on poisons as well, it may be worth it.
why don't we get Lightning Mastery? we keep on using lightening all the time in every battle, making it hit more enemies and do more damage = GOOD!
>>33497070Lightning Halo -6 AXP -2 GXPTitans Endurance -5PXP -1GXPSave 5 GXP for additional Dragon/sorcerer Powers when we get more XP
>>33497385You are aware that the little (t) next to some attributes increases XP cost by 1, right?Angel's Lantern costs 10 XP total, not 8.>>33497394We've got other methods, and we're doing all the sub-quests, regardless.>>33497433Lightning Halo improves our pre-existent spell-like abilities by a greater margin than LM3.
>>33497496I have to disagree.Mainly because Titan's Endurance is 10 experience, not six, so we'd only be able to save one for spells.Also because I think it's kinda bad, due to the high DE cost to ignore any damage that would've hurt us in the first place.
>>33497496Actually, if we have the possibility of buying spells which prevent Scrying, I think that would be an excellent investment either currently or in the future.
>>33497382>>33497384>>33497409I don't believe you. You just want to drag me into your magical realm.
>>33497446>Lightning Halo -6 AXP -2 GXP>Blessed of Health level 2 (adds poison immunity) for 5 PXP and 1GXP
>>33497561I...anon the whole reason we almost got magical realm'd this time is due to poison.Remember? He slipped us a knockout drug and that's the only reason we didn't regain consciousness before him?
>>33497543>Actually, if we have the possibility of buying spells which prevent Scrying, I think that would be an excellent investment either currently or in the future.holy shit that is good pointremember that TWO priests have hired this bounty hunted to get us without ever hearing about us.they merely sensed our existence in this world and then scryed upon us!Another HUGE reason to invest heavily in sorcery is that if we can take down the ward then not only are our powers better, but we can get other people trained as paladins AND we can use the HORN!If we use the horn we could strike massive blows to the enemy.Oh, and we could get the rest of the party back from our world into this one.
>>33497561Believe what you want. Although if magical realms scare you that much, I question if this quest is for you, since they are >impliedon fairly regular basis.So far we've been for the most part capable of not driving the threads to the ground and I'd like to believe we can keep doing that. Having power to help our friend bring a baby to the world faster than normal is unlikely to change that. OP was never particularly graphic either btw, so you don't need to worry about that.
>>33497542>>33497543>>33497070Ah, my bad. I was reading off the Favored of Veyla chart. And Divine Warrior isn't FoV. Damn. Guess I'll change >>33497496 to>Lightning Halo -6 AXP -2 GXP>Blessed of Health level 2 -5 PXP -1GXPwhich leaves us with 5GXP to either save or spend on spells.
>>33497648>which leaves us with 5GXP to either save or spend on spells.use it to buy "dragon magic" power>Dragon Magic: You learn the magic of dragons.>1 - Arcane spells cost 1 less arcane energy for you to use, to a minimum cost of 1.>2 - Arcane spells cost 2 less arcane energy for you to use, to a minimum cost of 1.>3 - Arcane spells cost 3 less arcane energy for you to use, to a minimum cost of 1.as a bonus, this will accelerate the familiar's growth
>>33497648I can back that, and I'm the guy that made the other list.>>33497703Ha, no.Save for sorcerer's magic level 3, it's way more useful and *also* boosts Ebby.We only have 1/3 powers needed for her next growth level for now.
>>33497734>Save for sorcerer's magic level 3, it's way more useful and *also* boosts Ebby.sorcerer counts too? I thought it was only dragon powers (remember, we had sorcerer talen before the dragon bond)
Ok, thread over, thanks to everyone for playing, and sorry about the mistakes I made – such as only posting half a post at one point, that’ll teach me to keep my pre-written paragraphs in the same file as my on-the-spot stuff.You didn’t end up going to the undead circus and seeing the skeleton clowns performing an abbott and costello sketch. This may appear as a non-canon story at some point.Feel free to discuss XP options in this thread, I’ll check the archive tomorrow.Next thread is 12 BST tomorrow – 12 hours 40 minutes from now.Autism Anon, please feel free to post error list, I thank you for your efforts and will check archives in the morning and make corrections.I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did, and please make one last Intelligence check 1d20+1 – you may have spotted something OOC anyway, but if not I’ll point it out IC, since its important.Next thread begins dark sister quest. It has the most pitfalls of all 3 quests, prepare your paranoia.
Rolled 13 + 1>>33497764
>>33497764Cheers for the thread, OP! Remain awesome.
>>33497757>Hatchling: Ebonsong is a dragon the size of a house-cat, she has no special powers or abilities yet, and can only fly short distances.>Her mind is undeveloped, the equal of a human baby (1 year old). Taking further levels in Sorcerer Magic, or Dragon Powers, will cause her to age rapidly over the next year to Very Young Age.>Powers until age-up 1/3.>Taking further levels in sorcerer's magic will cause her to boost
Rolled 1 + 1>>33497797thanksin that case, ok save to sorcerer 3
Rolled 15 + 1>>33497764Also for the record, we should drop some points into intelligence in the future.
>Success>>33493169>“Supposedly one of the rebels key figures is a member of some noble house that defected to the empire from one of the human kingdoms Valvenva or something and” he continues “that she’s the daughter of one of the two Demon Lords, good propaganda machine the rebels have, but a bit too far-fetched.”>ValvenvaGendrics not too good with names, he misremembered Sinver as Sinther
>>33497822Definitely, it's on my priority list right below sorcerer's magic 3 and a few spells for it.Also, dropping error list and question dump in one minute.
>>33497703I could probably get behind that. However since Sorcerer's Magic 3 counts I'd rather save for that. >>33497734Glad to hear that. >>33497757 >>33497764Thanks for running Pally. I like how things worked out. At the start I was honestly worried and as things went forward I was concerned that we'd be doing this for a while. However you ran it well and we managed to get out quickly so all in all I'm quite happy with how things turned out. Have a good night>>33497835Ah, yes I totally did catch that.
Rolled 16 + 1>>33497822what does int actually do? and willpower?that is, are we going by the "modifier" as per DnD? where a 16 gives +3 and a 18 a +4?in which case raising will from 16 to 18 would cost 6 points (4-1+4-1) and give us.... a +1 to all will rolls?mmm, seems a bit low.then again, some will rolls are not about casting a spell at enemies which is where most our will buffs are.
Keep in mind, some of these are suggestions and you don't *have* to take them OP.Autism RisingRules formatting error:Some abilities display only unpurchased ranks, while other abilities display all ranks and sometimes have '(already possessed)' after acquired ranks. Please decide on which you would prefer to make universal. (I'd prefer only displaying unpurchased ranks, myself)Rules formatting error:>Angelic (elemental) PowersShould be:>Angelic Powers (Elemental)To fit with the formatting of other Angelic powersRules formatting error/suggestion:>Raising a stat by 1 costs 1 XP, to a maximum stat of 12.>Once you’re at 12>Raising a stat by 1 costs 2 XP, to a maximum stat of 14.>Once you’re at 14>Raising a stat by 1 costs 3 XP, to a maximum stat of 16.>Once you’re at 16>Raising a stat by 1 costs 4 XP, to a maximum stat of 18.Should be formatted as:>Raising a stat by 1 costs 1 XP, to a maximum stat of 12.>Once you’re at 12 raising a stat by 1 costs 2 XP, to a maximum stat of 14.>Once you’re at 14 raising a stat by 1 costs 3 XP, to a maximum stat of 16.>Once you’re at 16 raising a stat by 1 costs 4 XP, to a maximum stat of 18.Possibly include commas after 12/14/16, but I don't think it's necessary.Rules error:>Both cost 1XP per point purchased until you double your base points, then the cost rises to 2XP per point. Base HP is currently 9, Base Divine Energy is 12. Bases may change in future.Base HP is 56, 16 (I think) if Giant's Endurance doesn't count as a base increase. Divine Energy has 14 as it's base.I realize that it says 'bases may change', but that's no excuse for leaving fraudulent information just lying around.Rules formatting error/question>Angelic Powers (warrior)The w in warrior would look better capitalized.Instead, could we just get the (properly capitalized) name for the angelic warrior caste put in there?Second half of the error dump to follow.
>>33497703changing this vote to sorc 3 saving. because its better.we will get this later though, since this is an awesome ability which we really do want.
>>33497890Intelligence help with knowledge, investigation and finding information checks, and it's pretty weak with us (since we have no passives to enhance it, I expect there will be some draconic ones available sooner or later)Willpower is used to spell offense and defense
if we could only afford to save up to>Angels Magic: As the child of an Eladrin, your mystical powers are particularly strong.>3 - You add +4 Willpower, and gain 30 extra Arcane Energy, you reduce the XP cost of learning new spells by 3.before spending any more XP on spells
Autism Rising: Part 2Rules formatting error/suggestion:Formatting is weird between levels and extrapolatives sometimes.For readabilities' sake, it should universally be:>Ability: Description>Level 1 - [R1 Description]>Level 2 - [R2 Description]>Level 3 - [R3 Description]>Extrapolative 1: [E1 Description]>List-Type Extrapolative (i.e. Titan Peripherals): [Description]> [Capability 1]> [Capability 2]> [Etc.]>Extrapolative 2: [E2 Description]Sanctuary is a good example of this style formatting, and the way Divine Warrior extrapolatives are listed right now is a good example of why this formatting should be universal.CS error/suggestion:Arcane and Divine Energies both have their bases displayed so we can know what base*2 is, HP, however, does not; I don't know if the HP added by Giant's Endurance counts as a base increase or not for the purposes of increasing HP with XP.Either way, base HP is something that should be displayed.CS error:Divine Warrior is still listing both the first and second ranks. Only the second rank should be displayed, listing both is redundant since we can't 'downshift' the power.Once again, everything is still amazing, you are amazing, nobodies going to judge you over these errors or formatting weirdness that only I really care about because muh autism, etc.
>>33497936I meant mechanically, does it basically give +1 to roll per 2 ability points?Does raising will / int increase our spell points?
>>33497951I would love if the taken/not taken note was at the begining near the level number for ease of parsingSpeaking of investigation, how are we going to prove that that noble asshole set us up?We got a witness but he is the one who captured us
>>33497951>List-Type Extrapolative (i.e. Titan Peripherals): [Description]> [Capability 1]> [Capability 2]> [Etc.]Shit, that didn't paste right.Those spaces next to each [Capability] are supposed to be the kind of indentation you get from hitting the tab key, but evidently 4chan hates those.Oh well, question dump inbound.
>>33497910>Rules formatting error/suggestion:>Raising a stat (text)Should be formatted as:>Raising a stat by 1 costs 1 XP, to a maximum stat of 12.>Once you’re at 12 raising a stat by 1 costs 2 XP, to a maximum stat of 14.I actually prefer the QM's current style with this. It's less of a wall of text a numbers. It helps those who don't wade through numbers regularly (unlike you or I) to understand what they're seeing.
>>33497999well, the queen has some sort of truth sense, it will require stripping him of his magical protections first and nondetectionAnd he holds a LOT of political powerthen again, the queen could exercise her authority to judge him herself
>>33497973I think the AE formula is (Willmod + 10 + Bonus)So in our case, (4 + 10 + 20) = 34.>>33497947That's literally the exact next angel ability I want.Maximizing gains, because anything else is heresy.>>33498009It makes it more difficult for me, personally, to read it, and me and Mathrian are the only one that make XP sheets.Maybe include a lineskip between each one?
And now for some questions/requests/other autistic bullshit:Can peripherals that can be chosen multiple times only be chosen an equivalent amount of times to the number of ranks you have in their parent skill, or can you just select them over and over again infinitely?The former is far more balanced, because if it's the latter, then Blessed Toughness makes regular health purchasing totally obselete.Not to mention other multiple time peripherals like Intense Lightning.Does Intense lightning have a 1/2/3 x2/x3/x4 kind of doubling, or is it x2/x4/x8?Again, the former is better because it doesn't result in game-breaking amounts of damage.Do skills have any kind of cap to how many times they can be taken?Like the modifier of their governing skill governing how high they can rise or capping out at 5 ranks.The Favored of Velya discount only appeared after we got our full suite of powers, but was this intentional or was it that the idea of discounting powers aligned to our god only occur to you later?I'm typing these up on Thursday, and I'm going to check the CS and Rules before posting to try and make sure they're all still valid.However, I might still accidentally leave one or two things that you've already corrected in, in which case I apologize for wasting your time.I had no time-consuming commitments Thursday, so I just stayed at home and read the character and rules sheets 37 times.
>>33497764>Next thread begins dark sister quest. It has the most pitfalls of all 3 quests, prepare your paranoia.Wait what?Don't we still need to finish off the last bits of IoS?Or is that going to be wrapped up in the OP of next thread?Because I was really looking forward to the scene where we make our return known to the Regency Council.Also:>You didn’t end up going to the undead circus and seeing the skeleton clowns performing an abbott and costello sketch.I regret everything.See you next time OP, thanks for the thread.
Just so OP can easily find the list when he wakes up amongst the minor debate about powers:>Lightning Halo -6 AXP -2 GXP>Blessed Health 2 -5 PXP -1 GXP>Dedicate remaining 5 GXP towards Sorc Magic 3If you could *actually* put that XP down as being dedicated to SM3, that'd be great.Just so nobody next thread gets confused as to why there's 5 unspent GXP, something that's never happened before.
Oh yeah, thanks for that picture of the guy wearing the santa hat, goggles, and tiny car. I thought it was an interesting form of praise.
>>33498084I'm just reading the pastebin. Must be how my mind is structured.>>33498084I'd highly suggest something that stop scrying, then. Maximizing gains is one thing, but we have to have some reasonable abilities to hold off our enemies while we're doing so (and since the spells here seem similar to 3.5, getting scrying & anti-scrying up is key).
>>33498444Well, the ability to *disrupt* scrying is actually a level 3 spell called False Impression, though we may be able to get an artifact of some kind, like what the IoS nobles have.But yeah, that's the #1 L3 spell on my list once we get SM3.There is a L2 spell to *detect* scrying, but that's not as useful without being able to disrupt it.Also, note that I said Angel ability, as in purchased predominantly with Angelic XP.Usually.
>>33498518Getting Detect Scrying would be quite useful, as it would allow us to tailor what we talk about and how we talk about it.