Let's have a civ thread since the other one is dead.>Begin by choosing a race and a starting location from the picture, first to 3 votes wins.
>>33489662One vote for Skaven in a Valley.I just realized I wrote my name in the wrong field before.
>>33489693That makes it two votes for Skaven in a Valley.
Construct in city ruins
>>33489773Two votes for Skaven in a Valley.One vote for Constructs in the Ruins of a City.
>>33489662Voting for this
>>33489825So right now we have two votes for Constructs in City Ruins and two votes for Skaven in a Valley.
>>33489662I vote goblins in the valley
>>33489838>2 votes for Skaven>>33489662>>33489693>>33489825
>>33489838i vote for constructs in city ruins then
>>33489875Sorry, I thought he had replied to to the Constructs post. Then it's settled, Skaven in a Valley. Writing.
Constructs in City Ruins sounds good
After many weeks of travelling, through the guidance of the Horned Rat, a ragged band of Skaven arrives at their promised land. A valley surrounded by mountains to the north and to the east and through which a great river flows, wide and deep. Around the river, a plethora of different kinds of bushes spring up and trees grow tall, reaching for the heaven. Within this forest dwell many animals, including deer and foxes.Since the fire which burned their settlement down to ashes, these 50 Skaven have journeyed through icy mountains and arid deserts and at times their faith and loyalty have waivered. However, the Plague Mage, leader of the clan, has led them through those harsh times and now, finally, they are ready to settle in these lush lands.As chief of the clan, what will be your first decision?>The stomachs of my people growl (gather food).>We will not withstand the cold of the night (gather the necessary materials and build shelter).>Without knowledge of our surroundings, we may be in great danger (scout the area).>Something else must be done (specify).
I vote for shelter first.
>>33490031I vote for shelter but if it doesn't get any votes I'll be down for food.
>>33490031>The stomachs of my people growl (gather food).
>Inventory (not a turn)You were not able to bring much more than the clothes you were wearing in the hurry of leaving your previous home. Upon arrival, you decide to make an inventory of all the items your clan brought along. You, the Plague Mage, have brought your staff and a few books on the subject of magic, which you may study if you wish. Five of the Skaven are trained warriors and they managed to bring iron swords and leather armor, one for each of them. Three of the Skaven who were previously carpenters brought some of their tools, including hammers, some nails and other items which will aid you in building shelter. The rest of the Skaven were peasants and they did not bring anything relevant. Or at least nothing they brought made it this far.>Have a map. You’re the purple dot by the river.
>>33490031>>We will not withstand the cold of the night (gather the necessary materials and build shelter).
>We will not withstand the cold of the night (gather the necessary materials and build shelter).Although the weather is mild in this place, you have learned from your journey that, at night, temperatures can drop drastically. Your people would not endure such conditions, which is why you commanded five of the Skaven to gather whatever materials they can and proceed to build shelter.After some hours in the forest, the party returns with several deer skins which they collected from carcasses and propose that tents are built. Everyone works hard for the rest of the day and by nightfall there are enough tents for everyone. They’re not particularly warm and they will leak should it rain, but it’s better than nothing and everyone knows it.Everyone’s getting incredibly hungry. It’s becoming unbearable.What will you do next?>I must not allow my people to starve (gather food).>These tents are not enough. We must build stronger shelter (build basic wood huts).>How can I sleep when I don’t know what lurks around me (scout surroundings)?>Something else must be done (specify).
>>33490243Go and gather food. Now that we have protection from the outside completed.
>>33490243>>I must not allow my people to starve (gather food).
>I must not allow my people to starve (gather food).Your people grow restless by the day. A hungry Skaven is an angry Skaven, and you don’t want 49 Skaven angry at you, so you summon 10 Skaven to your presence and give them a new task. They are to search the forest for food, be it fruit, vegetables, carcasses or anything edible at all. They gladly delve into the forest and return later that day bearing baskets laden with apples, pears and mushrooms. Your people rejoice in this sight but the gatherers don’t seem happy at all.You notice that only 8 of the Skaven you sent have return. Upon questioning them, they tell you that a fierce she-bear attacked them and, with a single blow for each, killed two of them. The news inevitably spread and everyone panics. “A giant bear?” they shout “What if it attacks in the night? What good are our tents?”The clan expects you to deal with this problem immediately. However, it’s up to you to make the call.>I cannot allow this bear to haunt my people (send a party to hunt the beast).>I will not send my warriors to die (do not attack for now).
I would hunt it, but do we have any ranged equipment? Or we can send the mage, but that might taint the meat, if we were thinking of using it.
>Magic (not a turn)As a plague mage, you have delved into the dark arts, you have stared into the abyss, but you are nevertheless a novice. As of now you can only cast one offensive spell, which you have taken to calling Ray of Feebleness. You may aim it at a single target, which will be physically weakened, the extent of this effect depending on the foe’s own strength. In addition to this, you can also cast a spell which heals your allies of disease or poisoning, although some forms of these ailments may be too powerful for you to eradicate.You may study your books and meditate, in hopes of furthering your mastery of plague magic.>Here’s a map with the tents and also a paw where the bear attacked.
>>33490589"Why should we hunt the bear when we can easily ambush it. Set up a decoy camp filled with our warriors and have them make a bunch of noise to lure the bear over their while our civilians hide in our main camp. Then we ambush the bear when it attacks and kill it that way."
>>33490655The only weapons we have are iron swords, one for each warrior. You may research bows, which will take a while, or slings, which will be slightly faster. But every turn you spend researching it, you risk being attacked again.
>>33490726Why make noise when we can go the sneaky route? Skaven get a bonus for sneaky actions, if I'm not mistaken.
>>33490769Indeed, Skaven are particularly skilled in stealth.
STATS>Population: 50 Skaven (42 idle, 5 warriors, 3 unemployed builders)>Weapons & Armor: 5 iron swords and 5 leather armor, 1 staff.>Equipment: A few hammers, nails and other building equipment.>Technology: You have not researched anything yet.>Religion: Skaven worship the Horned Rat, although your clan isn’t particularly religious.>Morale: Although the tents and the recent influx of food were great for morale, everyone’s afraid of the bear. You have to deal with this.
>>33490769>>33490726>>33490655So what's it going to be? Go in for the kill or leave it for later? Maybe research some ranged weapons or fortify our position for now?
>>33490870Let's fortify and research for now.
>>33490870Let's fortify but train our men out in the open so that the people know we are ready to protect them.
>>33490589Hunt the Bear.Bring all warriors and the mage. Let the mage cast his spell on the beaar and weaken it, then ambush it.Don't forget to bring its carcass back.
>>33490589>I cannot allow this bear to haunt my people (send a party to hunt the beast).Who gives a shit if someone dies? Life's cheap.
Rolled 5>>33490886>>33490897>>33490949>>33490966Two votes for hunting the bear and two votes for delaying it. Someone roll a 1d100. >1-50 we'll hunt the bear.>51-100 we'll fortify our camp.First roll settles it.
>I cannot allow this bear to haunt my people (send a party to hunt the beast).Your people demand it and you shall give it to them. In the night, a party consisted of five warriors and you delves into the darkness of the forest. Hidden amongst the bushes and finding cover behind trees, you slowly advance towards the place where the bear was last seen. Eventually, you find it. Lying next to a tree is the mighty she-bear and in its embrace is a young cub, which playfully licks its mother’s fur. The beast has its head turned the other way, so you do not know whether it is asleep or awake.How will you proceed?>Weaken it with a spell and charge swords in the hand, slaying this beast once and for all.>Approach it stealthily and stab it in the back like true Skaven (casting Ray of Feebleness may alert the bear) >Attack with another, more creative strategy (specify)
>>33491140>Attack with another, more creative strategy (specify)Attack the bear making loud noises to frighten it. While scared we shall try and injure it and try to force it out of this part of the forest to make it leave us alone.
I would try and combine the two, get as close as we can, then cast our spell.
>>33491140Voting to take the bear cub captive and raise it to be a weapon.
>>33491140Have the mage stay in the background, while the other skaven sneak up.Sneak attack it, then cast the spell if the sneak attack does not kill it.
>>33491308>>33491328>>33491262Alright, we're going with this strategy it seems. Someone roll 1d100.You need a 40 to sucessfuly sneak attack the bear. Although this does not guarantee you'll kill it.
You command the warriors to stealthily approach the bear, while you yourself stay back, hiding amongst the bushes. As the Skaven get closer to the beast, it turns its head towards them. Thankfully, it’s asleep, your men sigh in relief. Each step they take is less and less confident as fear takes over their body. Nervously they draw their swords and, when they’re close enough, mercilessly stab it into the bear’s back. The beast lets out a fearsome roar of agony, which petrifies the warriors, and with great effort it tries to stand. Promptly, you cast your Ray of Feebleness on it, which sends the she-bear back to the ground. However, it has not given up. The creature swings its monstrous arm against the skull of one of the warriors and the sound of bone turning into dust leaves no doubt: he’s dead. The remaining warriors strike one more blow in the beast’s back and, finally, life leaves its body, which becomes a carcass.The cub is absolutely terrified and attempts to hide itself under its mother’s arm. You order your men to bring it back to the camp, along with the mother’s carcass. The bear’s meat provides for a great feast and the clan’s confidence in you is renewed, despite the warrior’s death. The Skaven are extremely happy that the bear has been dealt with, and so quickly!A rope (which is tied to a tree) has been tied around the cub’s neck. As it grows, this will not be enough anymore.What will you do now?>My clan needs proper military training (begin training soldiers, specify how many).>We must build infrastructures to accommodate our population (build something, specify what).>We are still unaware of our surroundings, which is unacceptable (scout surroundings).>Something else must be done (specify).
>>33491746Scout the area, we need to know what's out there.
>>33491746Attempt to calm the bear cub in order to gain its trust. Give it some food that is not its mother.
The recent improvements in living conditions have led your clan to have children! Everyone is confident that things will only improve from now, and that their children have a bright future ahead of them.STATS>Population: 55 Skaven (48 idle, 4 warriors, 3 unemployed builders)>Weapons & Armor: 5 iron swords and 5 leather armor, 1 staff.>Equipment: A few hammers, nails and other building equipment.>Technology: You have not researched anything yet.>Religion: Skaven worship the Horned Rat, although your clan isn’t particularly religious.>Morale: Food, tents, no bears, everything’s good. Could be better, but it’s good.
>>33491772>>33491778I agree with both of these, but I think scouting can wait.
>>33491778The cub is extremely agitated from having watched its mother die. It bites anyone that approaches it and is constantly roaring, even if no one's around. It has been eating mushrooms and apples for now.
>>33491860>>33491778>>33491772So what's it going to be?
>>33491875Scout out the surrounding area then. But keep men nearby trying to calm the cub.
Scout/hunt. Save some meat for the cub.
While some Skaven desperately try to calm the furious cub, you summon 10 others and send them scouting, 5 to the South and 5 to the North. To the north, there is a cave from which the river flows and a narrow passage. The wind there is extremely strong, the scouts have even called it “violent”.To the south, the tall, green trees suddenly become dark, dead and twisted and in the middle of this perverted forest stands some kind of monument, abandoned and overcome by vegetation. The scouts did not dare scout further.With this information, what will you do next?>We need proper soldiers at once. (begin training warriors, specify how many)>There’s still building to be done (build something, specify what)>We must fortify our position (build defensive stakes and establish patrols)>There’s still much we don’t know about this land (scout further, specify direction)>Something else must be done (specify)
What's our food situation? And I think we should fortify our settlement, or build sturdier
Gatherers have been bringing in food. It's enough for now, although a wider variety would result in more children.STATS>Population: 60 Skaven (43 idle, 10 gatherers, 4 warriors, 3 unemployed builders)>Weapons & Armor: 5 iron swords and 5 leather armor, 1 staff.>Equipment: A few hammers, nails and other building equipment.>Technology: You have not researched anything yet.>Religion: Skaven worship the Horned Rat, although your clan isn’t particularly religious.>Morale: Food, tents, no bears, everything’s good. That forest to the south sounds scary though.
>>33492387Begin to dig out underground huts. Nothing fancy just something that hides us from wandering eyes.
>>33492511So is gathering an implied action?
>>33492387>Theres still building to be done.We should construct additional tools, axes for felling trees, spears for fishing that river, once we've got a few of each, we can really branch out.
>>33492553Yes, it is. It will be done automatically every turn. When it is no longer enough to sustain our population growth, you will know.
>>33492556Remember that you lack any sort of metal right now or any metal working technology. Whatever tools you craft can only be made of wood and stone.
>>33492572Alright, thanks>>33492543I like this idea.
Rolled 51>>33492387>dark, dead and twisted and in the middle of this perverted forest stands some kind of monument, abandoned and overcome by vegetation[Spoiler]Sounds like we found our new home![/spoiler]Train more soldiers and carpeters.Dig for ore and turn the mines into housing.
>>33492604Wood and stone is better than nothing.If we had axes we could fell trees for baricades, etc.Spears for fishing the river increases our food variety, leading to more children. Seems like a sweet deal, assuming we're not mauled by eldritch horrors from that southern forest in the meantime...
>>33492693Yeah we should build a wall around the south once we get enough tools and resources. But for now we could set some traps up to deter attacks.
>>33492683Voting for this too
>>33492683agreed. Also: investigate the monument.
>>33492811I would agree, but it might freak the Skaven out
>There’s still building to be doneYou wander through the camp and see your clan clumsily entering their tents and struggling to get used to this new life. Accustomed to living beneath the earth, the tents could never truly feel like home. The only solution is to go underground. You call 10 Skaven and tell them to begin digging underground huts. They seem extremely excited about this, “to truly have a home” they say. This project will be finished in 3 turns and, more than shelter from the elements, it will protect you from “wandering eyes”, as one of the Skaven mentioned. As your population grows, more food is required and, consequently, you have assigned more Skaven to gather food. The more experienced gatherers warn you that excessive gathering may actually reduce the amount of food gathered, if the plants aren’t given enough time to grow and to leave seeds. In the long-term, this may be very harmful to our clan.With this information, what will you do next?>We cannot be defenseless. (begin training warriors, specify how many)>I don’t feel safe near that forest (establish patrols)>Maybe there are still mysteries to be unveiled in this land (scout further, specify direction)>Something else must be done (specify)
Research traps, spears etc. so we can get some meat in our diet
>>33492860Research spears and other piercing weapons so we can use them to gather fish from the river.
>>33492907I agree,no point in setting up a patrol when they can't defend themselves.Also,what's the status on the bear?
>>33492860train warriors, tech better weapons/traps, tame the bear
>>33492907>>33492951Seconded.Also axes, axes for making barricades.
>>33492860Scout:Search for any fucking source of ore.Can't do shit without ore.Leader:Improve magick and take a few apprenticesCould you tell us the approximate proportions of the map?Would it be possible to dig tunnels to different points of the map and how long would it take?
>>33492860Oh yeah. We might want to name our clan and/or leader.
>>33493012Name it something to do with killing the bear.
>>33493012Actions name clans. We don't get a name till we do something cool enough to put a name to. I guess we could be the bear rats but that's not really cool.As for leader her name is Penilopee Shierk
>>33492951Agree with this, also get throwing spears while we're at it, Skaven are better at range than in melee I seem to recall.Oh! And we should search the forest for herbs and stuff for poison and medicine.
>>33492954The cub is still absolutely furious. Maybe with time it will calm down or maybe you'll need to do something about it. Who knows? You'd never even seen a bear before.>>33492995You're about a day's walk away from the monument and a day's walk away from the cave. How long it would take to build tunnels depends on two things mostly.>Where do they start and where do they end?>How wide and tall are they? (Can a person walk in them or do you have to crawl? Can 5 people walk in them side-by-side?) This influences how fast you can travel inside them too.>>33493012Go ahead.>>33493038Good idea.
>>33493038>>33493044Never played WHFB so I don't know Skaven naming customs but something like Clan Bearblud or something? Bluds for short, Bluds 4 lyf
>>33493079Crips 4 Lyfe
>>33493079You guys can be the bearkillers
>>33493079Skaven do spell things properly, Orcs not so much.How about... Clan Mortis? Though that is a bit close to Clan Mors. Warhammer fantasy has taken all the good clan names.
>>33493134Clan Bearblood then.Bloods For Life
>>33493134>>33493157Hmm... how about Clan Wither or Clan Funus?I don't like Bearblood very much but if people want taht then I don't see why not.
Since you have arrived in this land, you have devoted quite a lot of time to studying your books. The ancient letters are hard to decipher, but through great effort you have managed to learn from them. You can now cast a cloud which has a slightly weaker effect than Ray of Feebleness, but on various enemies. In addition to that, the standard Ray of Feebleness has become more powerful.As you leave your tent, you see the gatherers arriving from the forest. Their baskets are not nearly as full as the first time you witnessed this scene. You choose to heed the old gatherers’ advice and find a new source of food. The first thing that comes to your mind is the river. It’s teeming with all kinds of fish and it’s not too deep near the bank. Of course, to fish you’d need spears, so you get 10 Skaven to begin crafting these tools, which may also be used as thrown weapons. Next turn they’ll be knees-deep in the river stabbing at the water (and hopefully hitting something).The bear cub (still furious) is getting bigger by the day and the rope is looking weaker. Some Skaven worry that it may escape.What will you do next?>As of now, we can’t protect ourselves (begin training warriors, specify how many).>We’re pretty helpless if something attacks us in the night (establish patrols)>There are probably natural resources we still don’t know about around here (scout further, specify direction)>Something else must be done (specify)
STATS>Population: 75 Skaven (58 idle, 15 gatherers, 4 warriors, 10 builders, 10 crafters)>Weapons & Armor: 5 iron swords and 5 leather armor, 1 staff.>Equipment: A few hammers, nails and other building equipment.>Technology: You have not researched anything yet.>Religion: Skaven worship the Horned Rat, although your clan isn’t particularly religious.>Morale: Food, tents, no bears, everything’s good. That forest to the south sounds scary though.
Make Axes, build a pen for the bear
>>33493317Train warriors. Say, half our idle.We need to do something about the bear. If it won't be tamed, I see 3 options: (1) kill it, (2) make a pen of some kind (probably won't work very well), or (3) maim it somehow so that it can be directed in combat (probably the worst option, morally, but I kinda want to see what happens)
>>33493317Kill the bear cub, we don't have any experience with animal husbandry and if we want to get any at all we should probably practice with something that's not quite as dangerous as a bear.
>>33493317Build a pen for the bear and build a larger underground but to use as either a schoolhouse or a a meeting hall. Whichever is a more popular idea.
>>33493389We are not killing Nathanial
>>33493418Nathanial isn't a baby anymore...
>>33493399Better yet, build a pit for the bear, large enough for it to roam around freely of course. Think the one in Game of Thrones.We can feed Nathaniel our prisoners once we've interrogated them.
>>33493462I like this
>>33493472Me too. We're Skaven, no Elves!
The underground huts are finished! Now the clan can truly feel at home! Should it rain torrentially or should the river flood, everyone will probably drown – but who cares? It’s huts! Underground! The builders are glad they’re finally done with this exhausting task, but they won’t be getting any rest soon.Nathaniel is all grown up now and we’re nowhere near taming it. A bear needs a proper bear pit, with enough space to roam around and pile up prisoners’ corpses. You get your building crew on it and you expect next turn it’ll be done.Meanwhile, the crafters are done crafting spears. Now they’re fishermen! The fish is a much appreciated addition to the clan’s diet and population will grow even faster now!What will you do next?>Right now, we need some proper soldeirs (begin training warriors, specify how many).>I don’t care if we have spears, I don’t feel safe (establish patrols)>I’m sure there’s still stuff to be found here(scout further, specify direction)>Something else must be done (specify)
>>33493581>I don’t care if we have spears, I don’t feel safe (establish patrols)
I would research something to keep the rain out of our tunnels.... the OP keeps making it sound like things like this are going to happen.
>>33493581>Right now, we need some proper soldiers24 soldiers, all must know how to handle a spear in close and at range. Train them to be sneaky, skaven aren't exactly good at holding a line.
>>33493645This we don't want to drown in our sleep
We need to build some kind of irrigation system to change the flow of the water and perhaps create a filtration system to provide water to our people.
>>33493645Just dig drains at the tunnel entrances, if our tunnels are really close to the ground the dig them in the tunnels proper too. And about overflowing, if we just make the drains deep enough then they won't and we get fresh water too even if there's a river right there.
>>33493729Forgot to say, "or pic related".
>>33493581Train warriors (30 idles)
>Seal tunnels from outside world at allt imes we don't need to go to the surface>Become true skaven and build massive underground hive>Find ways to exploit ground-water>Raise animals fed on fungus deep in the caves to be a sustainable food source along with the fungus and possibly some sub-terrestrial creatures we might find>Become masters of disguising the entrances to our underground utopia, so that if we go to war we can easily appear anywhere we want without having to travel across the surface>If we make allies, use these tunnels to become a trade superpower>All hail the horned rat
>>33493735This is reasonable. Just don't want to drown
>>33493735We should also make wells where the tunnels lead. Don't want good water to go to waste.
>>33493735Stock the drains with fish from the river, create an underground lake, create an emergency food source and a nice resort for skaven families to visit
>>33493869Anon here makes some pretty good points, but I don't want us to become exclusively underground
>>33493581We still only have 4 soldiers...If we were to be attacked, we would have very limited means of defending ourselves.>>33493869no.
>>33493869Don't know if allies will come easy though, keeping the Skaven traits in mind
>>33493971Skaven are naturally subterranian creatuers, but yes, we should at least maintain a presence on the surface.
>>33493988I'd suggest that we maybe provide basic training to the rest of the clan then. Sort of like when you get the peasants to join in on fights in Age of Empire.Alternatively we could introduce a caste system.
>>33493869I like this. Plant saplings to even have an underground forest.
>>33493988>>33494049Well the way I counted it people do want more soldiers, and digging drains aren't a very time-consuming project, there's enough rats to do that and still have some left over to train.
Hey, I have to leave now, we've been playing for like 5 hours. I had a great time and you seem to have a lot of great ideas for our great skaven civilization!I'll start a thread tomorrow at the same time to continue our clan's story. Make sure you stop by. Use the Catalog to find the thread (some people actually don't know about this). I'll see you tomorrow!
>>33494087Maybe get the carpenters building dummies and prop weapons to begin training.All children should be provided with basic combat training. The best of them become warriors.
>>33494145cool. Been fun, nice job, OP
>>33494178Posting my own civ thread in a minute or so, hope to see y'all there.
>>33494215Look forward to it.
>>33494215I'll be there! Love civ threads
>>33494243civ thread running here>>33493099