Against my better judgement, I've decided to have another go at posting this.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CbBySCeczWp7Rh0_e5oVSaKTvl_DAcDxDT9GtZaP81o/edit#Answers to questions being typed up before I've even hit post:I know its not 100% canonI know that sisters are supposed to be incorruptable (even though bloodtide and Miriael say otherwise)I know my crunch isn't the best, and I know my Fanwank has probably made them OP, Which is why I'm posting this here in the first place, to get suggestions on how to balance while still making it an interesting and fun side to play (even if you don't think so)If you want to see the absolute Trainwreck that was last night's thread, head here:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/33391045Current ChecklistHES is Havent Even Started Relics - WIP Warlord Traits - WIP (though slaanesh is done, khorne and Tzeentch are spitballed) HQs Miriael Sabathiel - done Mistress of Pain - done Mistress of Plague - HES Mistress of Rage - HES Mistress of Deceit -HES Mistress of Malice - HES Lady Soriaph -DoneTroops Fallen Sisters - Nearly Done. Failed Repentias - HES Fast Attack Nephilim - HES Pain Seekers - HES Heavy Support Corruption Engines - HES Defiled Exorcist(Possessor?) -HES Suggested Rules:Orchestra of Pain - HES Elites Sisters of the Cacophony - HES Witch Coven - HES Dedicated Transports Fallen Rhino - HES
>>33413732I'll be posting a picture of a fallen sister from time to time to bump the thread.
>>33413802Here is a wonderful snapshot of the character that sparked this whole thing.
>>33413974I should probably add that I don't have a problem with OP doping this, I just find Chaos Sister to be a boring idea.
>>33413974that's funny, it caused a whole shitstorm last night, so it must be interesting to someone besides myself (whether or not that interest is just blatant hate for any corruption of the sisters is beside the point)
>>33414023You see, I don't really mind that much, because you aren't doing anything malicious, just stating your opinion.
>>33413732I'm basically 100% ignoreant of 40k tabletop, but wouldn't it be easier and more efficient to just convert some SoB models and use the rules for Chaos Marines/Daemons/Traitor Guard, depending on what you have in your army?
>>33414039I saw that first thread. Good times. But hey you must really dig it to make it can try 3 times to get input so best of luck.
>>33414096/tg/ isnt about whats easy, its about pure fanatical fury with a slight tinge of stubborness
>>33414096Yeah, but OP already said he was a faggot so really he's well within his rights to do stupid, pointless things like a Chaos SoB codex.Not to mention there's only one canon Chaos SoB, who may or may not have a small smattering of followers. Not enough to warrant a book.You can literally use the SoB book, rename all the holy, loyal stuff to their unholy, Chaos opposite like Shield of Faith being renamed Dark Aura of Impenetrable Cock Tentacles of Slaanesh and it would work. Then change ally status of CSM and Chaos Daemons to battle brothers while everyone else is Come the Apocalypse or Desperate Allies.
>>33414170>>33414177Fair points, both. I wish you luck in your endeavor, OP.
>>33414177But you cant, because not all of the acts of faith carry over well from being for Big Papa E and to For The Dark Gods. And this is something for me to do for shits and giggles, mostly because most of the players at my FLGS want to see it, and mostly because I wanted to at least make a Miriael Sabathiel dataslate. And partly because /tg/ actually helps out with balanced rulings from time to time.
>>33414232Well, thanks for that. I expect tonight to either be 3rd times a charm or 3 strikes you're out.
>>33414514This Technically isn't a Sister, but its the art I'm gonna use for the Mistress of Deceit, so might as well post it.
>>33414280All of them carry over, you just have to explain it harder.>why is it an invuln save instead of a Nurgle FnP"Because Nurgle blesses his sluts SO HARD that they can feel no pain like it was an invuln!"
Add in Valkia the Bloody, known also the Gorequeen, the Bringer of Glory, and the Sword-Maiden of the Blood God as the ''Living Saint'' of these Chaos Sisters.
>>33414818Hmm, Never thought of looking to Warhammer Fantasy for inspiration, any idea what her stat block is so I can use that as a base?
wtf is with the warlord table. All the results are OP as fuck except 6, which blows dick...
>>33414892Here are her stats from fantasy.Hope this helps.
>>33414818She costs about 200-ish points if she were in 40K (1500 vs. 2500 standard), she is middle between chaos lord and DP, 2+ armor, A6 S7 instant death, flying, base to base -1A -1S to enemy, comes with morale reroll aura like a banner because when she appears on the battlefield, all the warriors of chaos know Khorne is watching them, will basically kill anything that's not the Abaddon/Swarmlord equivalent.Keep in mind this is with WHFB which feels very different when doing saves and S vs. T. She's basically Kharn as a sexy valkyrie.
>>33414892M4, WS9, BS3, S5, T5, W3, I8, A6, LD9You should also check out that one sect of Sisters of Sigmar that got taken over by a vampire. Not exactly the same thing, but tons of parallels and will give you a GW stance of how their nuns should act while corrupted..
>>33414986for which warlord table? I'm making one for each of the gods. If you are talking about Slaanesh, then i can see your issue, as they were the first to be done, and in at least one case been nerfed already. What would make it a bit better?
>>33415041>>33415048>>33415072Thanks guys, There is a 9/10 chance i'll put her in. I wanna make named characters for each of the chaos gods before I get to adding a second one in for one of them, and Soriaph takes a bit of precedent as shes of my own creation. Do any of you (if you are different people) have any ideas for a named Tzeentchian sister or a named Nurgle Sister. Im thinking of having the Nurgle sister be a champion of that one eldar god Nurgle has in his sex dungeon. Though that would add me allowing Xenos Scum into the sisters ranks to the long lists of why I'm an asshole faggot with no appreciation of the lore.
>>33415266Working on the Witch Coven now, but I might change them into an HQ or change it to Brotherhood of psykers instead.
bretty good OP if the Sister models werent so butt ugly and difficult to convert I would make this my next project
>>33416472well, I appreciate that. I stopped working on it for tonight though, so ill hopefully come back to a thread full of ideas, but i'll probably just come back to a pruned or deleted message.
>>33413732> MiriaelYou should be aware that she was from a third-party trading card game, btw. Never been in a codex or anything like that.
>>33416856her lore was also expanded upon in a short story by Dan Abnett. If that aint canon enough I dont know what is.
>>3341687240K canon doesn't work like that. Basically, "everything is canon and nothing is" is how assorted authors within 40K have said that it goes. So Miriael is separate from the studio fluff, wherein no SoB has willingly fallen and it took unusually extreme corruption to corrupt those that have been noted to have gotten tainted.So while it is perfectly valid to use Miriael, but people who prefer the codex version can exclude her from their own view of the setting.
>>33417185thats fine though, I'm not expecting those people to like the codex. Especially since its a niche idea for a niche group. the amount of people that will have the models to wysiwyg usually dont overlap with those that want more chaos forces. besides me that is, is next to zero.
>>33415266I might have an idea for a Nurglite sister. There is another fantasy character you might find interesting.>The dark templar had found Mother Fecundus in the thawing mires of Al-Quagoon. The witch had given herself body and soul to the Plague Lord – or as she called her patron, Father Nurgle. Mother Fecundus was carried by her followers on a palanquin. She could not walk. She was too massive – a bloated breeder of men. Her palanquin was more of a birthing throne than a litter and from it her obscene, malformed body, dropped large, writhing pupae. Mother Fecundus’s army was made up of warriors birthed in this way, for like an insect queen, she only sired males – a plague upon the world. Emerging from their disgusting cocoons, the fully-grown warriors had already received the blessings of their father in the form of chitinous plates that grew out of their bodies like armour. Many came forth too twisted for use but the vast majority of Mother Fecundus’s plague of men took their place amongst the ranks of their dour brothers. Old souls taken by Father Nurgle and placed in rank new bodies. Now if you replace her maggot sons with maggot daughters who are the reborn souls of sisters claimed by Nurgle, then it would be perfect!
>>33414591If this ever became an actual model, I would buy the shit out of it.
>>33413732its not a terrible idea, however if you manage to finish it it should really be that "dark reflection" of everything the good sisters are. when I stop to think about it (or consider references from other media) the recurring theme is "the most faithful have the farthest to fall" possibly check out ADB's horus heresy novel The First Heretic for some ideas about how blind faith can go so horribly wrong.
>>33415072>>33415041>>33415048I think in 40k her statline would be a bit toned down.At least two stats of WS9/S5/T5/A6/I8 should be reduced.
>>33413732Why does all of /tg/ always sperg out on this idea and this idea alone?Almost every other fluffbreaking shit in 40k get's handwaved, but this is somehow not okay; i sometimes feel like i'm on tumblr or something
>>33418891Because>muh waifus can't do evil ever and are not falling for human shortcomings, they are the pinncale of perfection
>>33414818Don't do living saint equivalents, do champion of chaos equivalents
>>33417289I know. Just making sure that it's known what's what when it comes to Miriael. In the past, some have claimed that she was mentioned in codex fluff.
>>33418891Because most non fluff 40k stuff is done as parody or pornNot a super earnest FANDEX LOOK AT MY HOMEBREW RULESIt's the difference between Eldrad the dick/LCB/DOOMRIDER and whatever the fuck the Reasonable Marines turned into
>>33419134But isn't the game about creating your own rules,characters and "narratives"?
>>33417535>for like an insect queen, she only sired malesyou had one job
(I'm making this post a little later than I wanted to, due to spotty wifi, but here it is anyway)>>33418891>>33418960Nice strawmen.If you're really interested to know why some SoB fans were rubbed the wrong way by this before, then I can try to explain. Basically, the main issues are, firstly, that many SoB fans mainly prefer the codex fluff on them, which does have them as über-faithful and all that. Secondly, the Sisters are a faction wherein their fluff allows for less leeway than others, at least in this particular aspect.Now, arguments can arise when it's claimed that Chaos Sisters like in this fandex are absolutely a thing, and that any other interpretation is wrong. And while other silly things have indeed been fluffed up here on /tg/, this would be more like saying to some Khorne fans that Slaaneshi Bloodthirsters were definitely a thing, or saying to some Necron fans that Necrons serving the Tau Empire could definitely be a thing. I guarantee that you'd start an argument off too with that. It's not that you're just doing something different, it's that you might say that the interpretations of the other fans are invalid.Not that the SoB fans are entirely blameless, mind you. You guys do, ultimately, just seem to be concerned with making something cool here. OP even said that it's not meant to be 100% canon. I think that, once it's been clearly established that this isn't trying to adhere to all canon and that other people aren't obliged to accept it as totally true, then it's silly to criticise it for not being canon. My advice would be to just reiterate that other interpretations of the Sisters are fine, and to then just ignore anybody trying to stir things up.
>>33413732If something as unorky als Blood Axes can be canon, than this can be a fandex.Khorne bless you,anon-
>>33420266I just prefer the idea of Chaos Sisters being a Chaos institution in mimicry of SoB rather than being simple fallen Sisters. Think that path allows for more flexible and detailed fluff rather than the "X but Evil" that most fallen to Chaos types bring.
>>33420508Sure, that's entirely feasible.Sounds like something that the Word Bearers might do, in fact, since they no doubt despise the SoB quite a lot.
>>33413732I hate Chaos, but I love homebrew 40k. I've been monitoring your threads silently and you have a lot of good ideas, but also a tendency to make OP rules. Remember the space marine and bolter statlines? That's what they gave to invincible demigods of war and their automatic rocket launchers. Always bear that in mind when designing.
>>33420546It does, but I prefer to directly link as little as possible to the Traitor Legions as I feel that they overshadow everything in Chaos. Maybe something like they help facilitate its growth, but not that it's entirely a project of the Word Bearers. Something like related but independent religious orders.
>>33420603>you have a lot of good ideas,Yeah, like adding "dark" or "evil" in front of regular sister gear. That's bioware levels of genius there, son!
Op's Back, just woke up to return to the thread>>33420603sisters boltguns are the same stats as SMboltguns, but I get where you're coming from >monitoring silentlyJust as planned>>33420508>>33420546>>33420786I get that suggestion a lot, which makes me want to maybe do that later on, after I'm done with this shitdex>>33420907What? The only two things I could see you being right about in terms of that are Desecrated Power Armor and Daemonic Bolters, which are both just explanations of why they have the gear. If you are complaining about the names of the units, none of them are final. If you have a better suggestion for the unit name, then by all means lay it out there.
>>33420954Okay, OP since you're back what would you like to work on?
>>33413732Have you learned how Penitent Engines work yet?
>>33420954>>33420786>>33420546>>33420508On second thought, I might add them to this fandex. >>33421000I've known how penitent engines work. Why would it be so absurd for them to replace a sister in there with one of their fallen sisters? Space marines do that shit with dreads all the time>>33420994ill be AFK for around 30 minutes while I shower/transfer to a friends house, but after that I'll probably work on either the Sisters of the Cacophony/orchestra of pain combo, Or the Apothesis units.
>>33421066Idea from last thread as pretty much really shitty cultists that have a 5+ chance of turning into a daemon when they die.
>>33421081God, it's so fucking difficult to parse through that last thread. I doubt that you'd want to run cultists like that since you're basically allowing a mob of cheap units to replace themselves with better units.
>khornate>still has perfect skin and hairBitch. You aint seen real battle. Take that makeup off your face before someone thinks you can fight.
>>33421191>khornate>not receiving a blessing that turns your flesh into dense, stonelike material that can shrug off attacks without damage
>>33418621Yeah, I8 is batshit insane. With that statline and her special rules, she's better than a daemon prince while also cheaper since she's a much smaller model.
>>33421219What'd be a good reduction? WS8/S5/T5/A6/I6?
>>33421264Yeah, looks reasonable. I6 is already high enough to beat anything that isn't built specifically to be fast as fuck.It keeps her about as strong versus standard units, but weakens her against expensive, killy units. I'd shave off 1a as well though.
>>33413732Does this have electric flesh pounding Lesbian Sex that causes fissures and earthquakes and warp storms.
>>33421282Is this relative to current point cost?
>>33421282>>33421264like I said earlier in the thread, I'de like to work on at least one HQ each for each of the Dark Gods before adding her in.>>33421303Yes? Maybe? No?>>33421310Im pretty sure thats what they are going for.
>>33421042>Why would it be so absurd for them to replace a sister in there with one of their fallen sisters?Because sisters don't go in there to begin with, idiot.
>>33421310The 200pts version.>WS8, BS3, S5, T5, W3, I6, A5, LD9>Mark of Khorne, Gaze of Khorne>+2 str, AP2 and Instant Death on the charge>reduces a and s of models in base contact by 1She still feels OP as shit to be honest, the special rules are 2good
Can they have dicks?
>>33421344Also 2+/5++I guess the weakness is that she's using a lance weapon, so she a shit if combat doesn't end on the first turn, but she still needs tweaking or a points bump
>>33413732Goddamn that is some OP bullshit
>>33421337"Many of the souls that are punished in this way may have once been members of the Ecclesiarchy; Imperial priests who have fallen from the Emperor's grace, or even Battle-Sisters who have failed in their faith or through their mistakes have caused the death of others.">>33421344>>33421358Might have to up the poitns cost a bit>>33421369then help me balance it.
>>33414591does she take the cawk?
>>33421347Slaanesh clearly.Khornes would simply have HUEG Erect clits due to bloodrush, and endless Period with a secret killer Foetus hiding inside or use it as a way to hide a blood-sucking flail or some kind (Think tampons of XTREME metal)Nurgle would have Foetus, rot STDs, and that appeal of a corpse that gets someone into necrophillia. and would pop out nurglings enmasse.Tzeentch can give themselves cocks if they want, but only the holier than thou-ish ones become herms because Illumination illuminati themes and such.Malal are hit and miss with Futa, and seeign as it's conflict, would get balless puffy vulva futa erect clit or a cluster fuck of genitalia to represent conflict
>>33421383Whatever you want, big boi
>>33421331When you say HQ are you talking generic or special?
>>33421400special, I've already got "canoness but x god" brainstormed up, I just want to make some more named HQs
>>33421383No, she gives it. Chaos is for futa
Most of the marks and such are ridicolously OP except for khorne, which is underpowered as usual, especially Champion of Slaanesh, which is basically an iwin button for every challenge and makes anyone with the rule an untouchable rape machine in cc, for 10pts.
>>33421450Is that better for the Champ?How many points do you think I should up the price to on the other marks?
>>33421482Simplify it. Simplicity is the key to a good codex, nobody wants to sift through a million pages of special rules, especially not in a fandex.Ditch the Sister, make the Touched standard CSM marks and tone down the champion stuff. Rethink the entire champ of slaanesh idea, it's incredibly overpowered.
>>33421553>simplicity is the key to a good codexSomeone needs to tell GW that.
>>33421567They do an alright job in most codex, the difficult part is to keep the army simple enough to not be a chore to play, internally balanced enough to allow the player to bring a wide array of different units, fun to play or play against AND unique enough when compared to others.That's one hell of a challenge, writing a good dex aint easy.
>>33421587As evidenced by the consistent bitching about OP rules, then Immediate bitching of other people that I'm making the codex too weak after I change the point cost or the rules itself.
>>33421603Yup. The line between OP and UP is very, very, very, very slim. You CANNOT make a codex without playtesting. What you want to do is make a rough draft, take some feedback to iron out the biggest kinks, then play. A lot. Versus every other army, and balance as you notice what is strong and what isn't. Also be prepared to add or remove a ton of units during this process, as you notice in what areas the army is strong and in which areas it is weak. This process is very, very long, and the army will go through periods of being OP as hell and pushover tier UP, and all you really do is keep playing and tweaking until you end up with a version that fulfills the afrementioned qualities.
>>33421695Yeah, I'm trying to get a vassal group to help playtest since my FLGS is closing
>>33421695>iron out the biggest kinksBut the whole reason I'm making my codex is to fit in my kinks.
>>33421864gr8 b8 m80In all seriousness though, why do people automatically assume that everything is sexually related >4chan.orgoh, nevermind
>>33421903Because the whole thing is to justify OP's Mary Sue snowflake slaneeshi champion who orgasms with every step she takes.
>>33421952Where exactly did I type that? If your talking about all the flavor text for Miriael, its just what was on the Lexicanum
>>33421412>Lilla HimmelOnce the daughter of minor noble family, her carefree days were cut short as she contracted Coralbed Fever. Years were spent in agony as her organs would grow inflamed and slowly calcify. As her organs failed in turn they were stripped out, replaced by cold machinery that robbed her of the pleasures of food, drink, and speech as she counted down to her death in a drugged haze. It was in this haze that she first heard the whispers, gurgling voices offering sickly sweet promises of a life eternal. With a word she sealed her fate, rising from her bed and blessing her house with the affliction that tormented her in offering to her new master. Unlike the bloated, rotting warriors clad in rust that typify Nurgle's champions, Lilla is a gaunt spectre, sinew and bone holding together burbling, corrupt machines wrapped in greyed leather. Those in her presence have their senses dulled by shared pain and misery that radiate from her.WS5/BS5/S3/T4/W4/I5/A4/LD9/SV3+How does that sound? I'm not too well versed on point costs or wargear.
>>33422039Definitely a possibility. I'm assuming that you want her to have some type of AOE passive or blast attack?
>>33422063I was thinking more along the lines of some kind of buff/debuff.
>>33422085Ok, maybe like, she grants something to sisters of nurgle around her?
I'll start believing this isn't done for magical realm reasons when I start seeing decent amounts of fanart that make chaos sisters look like the same sort of horrors that the other chaos followers look like.
>>33422107I would, but I'm shit at art, and everyone whose good at art and wants chaos sisters is probably part of the fetishists group
>>33422103I was thinking something like lowering the initiative of enemy units in base contact or granting FNP(6+) to all units within a certain range.
>>33422173Check the checklist in the codex, and tell me if that works. I might not give her armor though, tbh. might give her something like tattered robes
>>33422107Anything can be done for magical realm reasons, the real tests is if it stays magical realm.
>>33422261I was thinking the FNP is granted to everyone to prevent her from being overpowered. The -1I was specifically for units attacking her in CC. My mental image of her was more along the lines of looking like a Hospitaller/servitor combo so robes would fit.
>>33421977>If your talking about all the flavor text for MiriaelI'm talking about Penitent Engine-chan
>>33422039Not a Sister of Battle SO Fuck off. My dick can only get hard to corrupted nuns, corrupted nobles are fucking boring
I've been here for all incarnations of this thread but it seems silly that chaos "sisters" would follow the same/similar logistical and command as their loyalist counterpart.IMO this works best as a datasheet rather than a full-blown army. A character and a couple squads of "chaos sisters" supplanting a general chaos force seems pretty plausible, whereas a "chaos sister" army excluding both chaos marines and lost and the damned is a little less likely.
>>33422389This is based on the Chaos SoB being a Chaos institution that mimics the Adeptus Sororitas rather than everyone being corrupt and fallen SoBs. Besides, she obviously would have been sent to the Schola after her family's tragic deaths from the disease which afflicted her.
>>33422397Rules were put in place specifically so that you can take any unit from this codex with daemons or CSM. Though this started out as a Dataslate, so I might at one point compile the best stuff from this into a CSM Dataslate.>>33422413Yeah, the idea is changing at this point to just Harem of chaos, with a bunch of Chaos chicks fighting along sisters because Womyn
>>33422598I think keeping something of the structure of the Adeptus Sororitas would help. You could even line it up with the four gods, Khorne=battle sisters, Nurgle=hospitaller, Tzeentch=dialogus, and Slaanesh=famulous.
>>33422379Aside from not knowing how exactly PEs are made, I don't see a problem with it.
OP here, while I was waiting for my root canal today I started to read the book on Valkia.She seems like good addition, though she definitely needs to get nerfed for 40k
>>33413732Why not 1d4chan instead of a googledoc? Then you would have to write all the stuff alone.
>>33425842Just realized that you made the document deitable for everyone. However, I still like wikis more. ^^
>>33425842because I dont trust 1d4chan, and I'm an entitled little bitch who wants to be the guy who can say yes or no to stuff.
>>33425862its not though, as far as I know.
>>33425842I've decided two things:First, I'm gonna do the Harem of Chaos idea, where its a small amount of sisters lead an ultimately not sisters force. That way i can do stuff like add Valkia as well as slightly appease the lorewhores, andTwo, I'll start working on and updating a 1d4chan page for the army
>>33422413Sounds dumb and gay. We need more fallen sister smut
>>33414591>dat khornewhat are you using for mistress of rage then?
>>33429696probably the art I started the thread with>>33425862Heres a link to the 1d4chan page:http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Chaos_Sisters
>>33429811Uh, OP. I should probably let you know something. That 40K wiki article that says that Miriael corrupted some other Sisters seems to be mostly fanfiction. There is no mention of her doing that in her card game or the Dan Abnett story.
>>33429963hmm, you seem to be right. I'll roll with it but i'll make sure to note that, thanks
>>33429998S'fine. You're far from the first person that that article has misled.Hey, do you know something cool that Mirael does have? A squad of Slaaneshi Terminator Marines. They're a card in that card game. Though, granted, they might not really fit with what you're trying to do here.
>>33429811>1d4chanWhy am I even surprised. After all, you made this thread. THREE TIMES.
>>33420266Really the problem is that on /tg/ and fanfiction, the "Fallen Sisters" is an idea that has been done to death, and usually poorly.Add to this that fandexes are also usually awful and this idea is twice as stupid.
>>33430241and I will probably keep making them until its finished. Also, I just made the 1d4chan page at the behest of some friends and some fa/tg/uys here.
>>33430338Yeah, I know my crunch is awful, but im trying to fix it by getting help from people here and elsewhere.
>>33430814Sadly, your crunch is leagues better than your fluff. It sucks, but the fluff I'd just downright abysmal
>>33430241Even after last time he said he would just keep it to his fucking self.
>>33430962Any suggestions on how to fix it>>33430984changed my mind, decided to post it every night till its finished out of sheer stubborn stupidity
>>33431220You sound like an attention whore
>>33431220yeah, I guess I do. Nothing i can really say in response, other than I hope I'm not, at least not in real life.
>>33431399Do you even have anything new to bring us each day or are you just spamming your fetish in the hopes that we will do the grunt work for you/for attention?
>>33431548I added the rules for witch covens today, along with failed repentias, changed the touched by rules to one rule, modified point costs on a few things, but thats about it from today.This thread introduced me to valkia the gorequeen, as well as Lilla Himmel, which i might use. The thread also convinced me to turn it from strictly sisters to heretics dressed up as sisters led by actual fallen sisters.
>>33431399Nigger please nobody acts the same between /tg/ and real life.
>>33431657>valkia the gorequeen,God you Chaosfags are lazy and uninspired
>>33431701>make something newI'm a lorefucking faggot whose injecting fetishes>use something existingI'm an uninspired lazy faggotI'm getting some mixed messages here.
>>33431399Judging by you trying to force this on your entire LGS, you're even worse IRL
>>33431754You're using something existing to make something new, which makes you both of those things. Not hard to understand.You're not playing Valkia in a WoC list. You're trying to play Chaos SoB with Valkia.
>>33431762>Implying I'm forcing them and that they weren't the people that spurred me on to thisnice b8
>>33431754Simple: everything you make either disregards lore or is just derivative idiocy
>>33431698haha but what if they didthat would be crazy
>>33431787>>33431781Can't refute that logic. What do you suggest I do (that doesn't include stopping). I realize that that was probably going to be your answer, but I'm gonna be shitting out these rules till its done, so you might as well guide me to the bowl.
> Chaos HealSnrk
>>33431893I guess you were reading the page after that one guy changed it.
>>33431917He improved it, to be totally honest
>>33431893Honestly if someone wanted to make a Chaos SoB book from the ground up, THIS is the way to do it.
>>33432050And They Shall Know No Chaos!
>>33432050It's pretty much what OP did, he just tries to hide it by using shit like "Fallen" or "Desecrated"
Aren't The Fallen a Dark Angel thing? Why did OP make DAs into girls?
>>33432257> make DAs into girls> make
Guys. I have an idea for this codex. It's unorthodox, but think it over for a minute:Chaos Master Chief.
In order to better mirror the Sisters, I think the CSisters should be the internal corrupting force of the Warp, meaning we need to make Order Daemons and Loyalist Insurgents for them to purge.After all, doing all this sprite recoloring just to force another bland SM vs CSM style rivalry would be faggotry of the highest order.
>>33432318Chaos Sebastian ThorChaos SamusChaos Ephrael SternDamn, I'm a fucking genius
>>33432372>faggotry of the highest order>4chanlook at where you are>>33432318nice maymay bro
>>33432405It's like you guys don't even realize all Chaos heroes were once non-Chaos worshipping mortals at some point.
>>33432405>>33432458Make them get their powers from the Chaos-Emperor!
Guess I'm not posting it on 1d4chan anymore
why wont this thread just die
>>33413732Is there any particular reason this army is so Slaaneshi-focused?
Good lord why does everyone seem to hate this thing so much?
>>33435425it started as a miriael sabathiel dataslate and expanded from there, so all the stuff i had done first was the slaanesh stuff. I'm adding in other gods stuff as I go though
>>33435490It was a lot worse when he first posted it, and hes generally a little bitch about criticism
>>33435425There is a very obvious answer to this quesiton.
>>33435425Because dickSoBs are literally better than SoBs in every which way.
>>33435496I say to a hard focus on the other gods, most everyone doesn't think of anything but Slaanesh when Chaos and Sisters are mentioned.>>33435490People get really touchy about Sisters. And OP never learned to respond properly to criticism.
>>33435490Because its a shitty idea.
>>33436030thats true. I'm gonna be working on Nurgle right now, probably gonna use that suggestion that was given earlier, but make it not as powerful, since that stat block for a gaunt teenage girl was a bit much, and thats coming from me, shitlord of OP mountain.Love the idea though.
>>33436072>shitlordAt last, you reveal your true form, tumblrite!
>>33436072I never specified her current age, just that she was a child when she first got sick and years passed before she turned to Nurgle. Considering she's a HQ character even more time should have passed for her to reach her position. I imagined her as a sallow, leather-skinned, middle-age woman. Plus since she's an HQ character you'd be hardpressed to have a reason to field her if she has too low a stat block.
>>33436267thats true, you didnt specify her age. I wrongly extrapolated. I'll probably throw her in then, and well roll with it for now. I'm about to do a Vassal Playtest with some friends, so ill playtest her out after assigning an arbitrary points value
>>33436845Cool. If I bother to bang out some more, what would you like to see?
>>33436913More SoB rape
>>33436913Probably some stuff thats not slaanesh
>>33436913Something about a Canoness forced to carry a brood of Botfly larvae that contain thw tormented souls of her (willingly) fallen order in her diseased, bloated carcass. She also feels ecstacy when the larvae wriggle out of her flesh and attack/infest the faithful before returning to the carcass-womb of their "mother".
>>33437143thats quite terrifying.
>>33437143>Mother of WormsAttrillius stood impatiently in the depths of the sewer, sweating profusely as he grew ever more annoyed at the wait. He had been sent to this world as an envoy, an emissary of Khorne to raise up the populace by word and deed into an army, wild and murderous, so that his god might be pleased and bless his children for their works. Yet his masters saw fit to ally themselves with the bloated pus-drinkers that festered hidden among the populace. "Again, my apologies," crooned the woman who accompanied him through a mouth foamed with blood and of rotted teeth, "our blessed Mother is not as...mobile as she once was.""I don't want your excuses; I tolerate your presence because it was ordered, but I will not hesitate to have your flippant little band killed," he snarled."Quite the bold statement for one alone in a strange land." Turning his head Attrillius gazed upon the one he waited so long to meet. Clacking against the plascrete floor, the thick, spider-like legs of the palanquin ferried its corpulent cargo into view. "Greetings, honored emissary of Khorne, blessings be unto you, guide and strengthen you by faith and good works," wheezed the Mother of Worms as she nodded her head in greeting. Attrillius could not help but feel a churning in his gut as he gazed at her figure, swollen with wriggling cysts tended to by the decaying servitors fused to her litter. His head grew light from the stench of infection and he leaned against the wall for support. "Enough, let us be done with this, where is this cult of yours?""They have not yet found me, but will know me soon enough."Before Attrillius could raise a word of objection he averted his gaze as the Mother's handmaids removed the filth-encrusted blankets from her body. Writhing sacks of translucent flesh filled with thick, white larva seemed to be her entirety, with her arms and head growing from them like tumors.
>>33438063This may have just added a second nurgle HQ
>>33438063Goddamn I'm hard now.Now write her fucking someone while the larvae bore into her victim until they're turned into another Rotted Mother
>>33438063Clenching her teeth, the cysts ruptured as the larva within chewed their way out; the amniotic fluid, stained pink with blood, flowed from the now gaping holes as the larva rushed out, an undulated flood with faces almost human. Attrillius fell to his knees and vomited, scrambling away quickly as the worms turned towards his plight. For the first time in years the catechisms of his youth sprang forth in his mind and the Mark of Khorne on his tongue burned at the appeals for succor choking on his lips. Panting, he managed to look at the Mother, laying unfazed as she cooed softly and whispered encouragement to the exodus from within. Struggling to his feet he tried to form words but none would come. The robed woman who led him to this grabbed his arm and helped him up, politely trying to stifle a smile."I was under the impression that you would be made of sterner stuff," the Mother intoned mockingly as she turned to face him. Her once bloated form was now deflated with thick gouges and holes leading directly into her flesh. He turned his head to follow the trail of larva slinking to the water."How," he clutched his head and composed himself for a moment, "how is that supposed to aid us? By what measure is that a cult, much less an army?""You are a shortsighted child," she stared at him intensely, eyes dripping with contempt, "there is more than one way to break a world."Hours passed in the claustrophobic tunnel, the heat wrapped around them like a fog, and Attrillius grew weak as sweat poured from his face. He sat apart from the Mother and her handmaids, catching occasional snippets of inspid banter and more than a few remarks about himself. From the darkness he heard a shuffling, and pulled his lasgun from its holster, trying to make out what was approaching."Hold fast." Attrillius shuddered as a handmaid placed her hand on his shoulder, "Our sisters have returned."
>>33438486This better end in sex
>>33438486"Sisters?" He looked befuddled as the source of the noise came into view, a middle-aged man with his mouth frothed with blood lurching towards them. The man silently acknowledged the woman as he walked towards the Mother; Attrillius noticed he wore the robes of the local Administratum. Disrobing in front of the Mother, he prostrated himself before her. Suddenly he began to seize, rocking and spasming as his skin stretched and pulsed, before erupting open. A white worm, now fat and throbbing, pushed its way from the corpse and crawled to the Mother's litter in a trail of chewed meat. One of the handmaidens picked the worm off the floor and handed it to the Mother who caressed and congratulated it before laying it across her body. Attrillius once again tried to look away, but the handmaiden next to him held him in a grip far stronger than he thought her capable of. Forced to watch, he saw the larva slither down the Mother's body and nudge its way into one of the many gaping holes. With a quick strike it buried itself into her flesh and began regurgitating its former meal. Thick black blood vessels took root from where the larva attached itself and grew up her torso. Clenching her teeth in agony she gripped the sides of her litter as the servitor inserted a long needle into the side of her head. The autoquill attached to the servitor sprang to life, furiously scribbling as the Mother babbled praise.
>>33439101The handmaid released her grip from Attrillius and stepped forward to claim the strip of parchment from the autoquill. From the tunnels came a multitude; Attrillius collapsed once more as the Mother began to sing joyously as her children returned with their gifts. He tried to block the noise with his hands, but they were pulled away.The handmaid stood above him, his hands in hers, and pulled him to his feet. "Come with me,' she commanded, "the night is young and my sisters have not finished their work." Attrillius nodded without comprehension and grabbed her for support. His hand sank into her, the skin sagging inward where he touched; he quickly felt a squirming mass underneath and recoiled against the wall. Scrambling to get away he fell to the ground and started crawling as he struggled to find footing on the slick floor. He screamed as the handmaid turned him over, desperately he tried to kick her away at the sight of her skin undulating, quivering, rippling. His struggling did little to dislodge her hold as she dragged him to the Mother. "Sterner stuff indeed," she gloated at him, her smile splitting open to a rotting grin.
Congratulations, you made a female fetish Typhus
>>33439382Nurglites having things growing and nurturing in their bodies is not something new or something only Tyhpus enjoys. See (>>33417535) This is an actual canon character.Are you gonna call GW fetish baiting? Or are against bringing new life to the would? Are you Pro-abortion, you sick bastard!?
>>33439474My apologies. You just ripped off Fecundus and put her in 40K like OP did with Valkia. You're even LESS original than I previously claimed.
>>33439569Of course I ripped off Fecundus, the post asking for this required the core of it to rip off Fecundus.
>>33439569I am another anon.I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of fetish calling when the setting has daemonculaba and fantasy has Mother Fecundus.In your logic, GW is porn company.
>>33439612You could have just pointed that out instead of fellating yourself
>>33439672How am I fellating myself? Dude asked, I obliged.
I gotta say good work on the ''Mother of Worms'' and I commend you enduring all this abuse.Just a little piece of advice. Get a trip code or a name, man. It makes things go smoother.
>>33439984Grabbing a trip or name goes against my opinions on how things should be done in a homebrew thread.
>>33439984Okay, so it's morning and I'm ready for another round of arguing and abuse, anyone else wanna work on this?
Can someone tell me why all sisters of battle are depicted with gray hair? Whats the deal? They all super old?
>>33444110One of the main orders bleach their hair white as a way of showing devotion.
>>33444110It's not grey, it's white. As for why, that's never been explained. For now, it's just a stylistic choice.And it's not just one Order. It can seem like it's just the Order of Our Martyred Lady doing it, but it's shown up on other Sisters in other Orders too. It's just that OoOML is the "default" SoB Order who show up everywhere.
>>33444195Right so is there a list somewhere of all the orders and their color schemes or is everyone just a white haired, black ceramite plated, war machine?
>>33444225These are the six Major Orders. However, models of Sacred Rose Sisters have since been shown as painted with red cloth instead of black.Also, hair is basically whatever. As I said, the fluff has never said anything specifically about that.
Thinking about these in relation to current actual sisters, do you think maybe we should buff their CC ability?
>>33446969Just let it die, anon.
>>33446969We should give them the ability to rape Sisters into Chaos Sisters
>>33447045No, they should be able to rape Space Marines into Chaos Sisters.
>>33447054Let's just give them transformative semen, that they rape into everyone, even other daemons and chaos cultists