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You are Zhu Xing, from the city of Xu Chang. You've defeated Wang Lang's army and have driven him back to Hui Ji. Most of his territory is taken, and it is only time before you can take the city.

Character Profile: http://pastebin.com/UTDjnUuX
Past threads: http://archive.foolz.us/tg/search/subject/three%20kingdoms%20quest/
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It is Fall, and the harvests are gathered as most of Wang Lang's territory is taken. With more troops coming to your side and a good harvest this year, you take a day of rest and celebration for your men. Your men and soldiers throw a feast outside of town and you have the day to yourself before you move out.

>Go see how [insert officer] is doing
>Enjoy the time with the soldiers and get to know them
>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
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>>33411220
>>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them

Let's build popular support
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>>33411220
>>Go see how [insert officer] is doing
Lingqi
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>>33411220
>Go see how [insert officer] is doing
>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them

Could we throw a small feast?

If not,
>lingqi
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yay, my favorite quest; hopefully you can stay for a full session this time.

>>33411220
>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
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>>33411220
>>Go see how [Lingqi] is doing
Time's a ticking. Have to get the waifu and work on heirs
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>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them

We are going to be ruling over these people soon, might as well start making a good impression.
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>>33411220
This was brought up at the end of the last thread but
>>Throw a small feast for all of your officers
They all deserve it and it'll be a good way to hang out with everyone and also get everyone to get to know one another.
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>>33411220
>>Enjoy the time with the soldiers and get to know them

The army is the foundation of the state. Especially Lu Bu's state.
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>>33411307
Yes, this. Feast for the officers.>>33411220
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>>33411220
>>Go see how [Lingqi] is doing
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I wonder if we'll become Sima Yan-tier with our women once we get really up there in power.
Also, yaaaaaay, favorite quest ever is here again.
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>>33411220
>>Go see how [insert officer] is doing
Linqi
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>>33411220
>>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
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>>33411220
>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
Let's begin to cultivate popular support and benevolence. We can party with the officers and Song Xian after Wang Lang is defeated?
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>>33411220
>Go see how lingqi is doing
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>>33411220
>>Go see how [insert officer] is doing
Lingqi
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>>33411220
Share some food with the peasants and get to know them.
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>>33411220
>>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
Time to raise our popularity with the people. We don't want to have to mow down any more homegrown militias like before again.
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I don't think we can go wrong here.

Lingqi would be useful since we do want to get as much of it done while we are against scrub tier enemies and not the Sun Clan.

Building support among the people is always important, same for military although they already have a reason to like and respect us.

Song Xian? Scrub officer can wait until Wang Lang's head is mounted on the city walls.
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ROTK11 bro from last thread:

pls upload your scenario
Looked awesome
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>>33411220
>Go see how [Lingqi] is doing
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>>33411220
>Go see how [Lingqi] is doing
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>>33411220
>>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
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>>33411220
Raian we should really get the general who defected and the administrator guy on the pastebin just to keep track of them as resources.
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>>33411479

Fan Neng and Yan Jun?
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>>33411220
>Go see how Lingqi is doing
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>>33411518
Yeah.
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>>33411220
>>Go see how [insert officer] is doing
Lingqi
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>>33411220
>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them

Man. All three seem good. But we want the people to like us more than they ever did Wang Lang.
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Gentlemen, been watching the 2010 Three Kingdoms again.

I have an idea to attack the city before we even do so.

There must be some traffic still going in and out of the city right now as its not fully under siege.

We Post flyers and town criers in the major intersections before the city so that news can travel into it, we might also attempt to infiltrate saboteurs inside.

We announce our intention to march upon the city and lay siege to it later in fall.

We will march with full force of our might, that Lu Bu has taken the head of the bandit leaders and is marching to reinforce.

Victory is no longer in doubt, all that remains is how long it takes and how many people die and suffer.

We call upon Wang Lang to capitulate and surrender. We will guarantee his safety and he will be able to retire in peace. In doing so, he saves countless soldiers and townsfolk from suffering and death in the siege.

We also call upon any soldiers or leaders of the city, should Wang Lang refuse to surrender to us. We call upon them to capture or kill Wang Lang and present the city to us. Wealth and a high position will be offered to those involved and all soldiers will be pardoned and still allowed to return to their homes.

We attack him mentally before we even do so. He'll be cornered by his leaders to accept surrender and he'll have to keep looking over his shoulder in case of betrayal.

A few months of this will fuck with him.
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>>33411220
>Go see how lingqi is doing
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>>33411220
>>Go see how [Lingqi] is doing
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>>33411220
>Enjoy the time with the soldiers and get to know them
>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them

How about a small feast for everyone? Perhaps not all peasants just the more important ones.
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>>33411220
>>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them

Need more popular support.

Whats more, we can always find Lingqi. This is one of the few events to help popular support.
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>>33411220
>>Go see how [Lingqi] is doing
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>>33411203
Food for the peasants. We can save celebrations with Lingqi and our military AFTER we secured the region. As is, we need to make sure we can keep some supplies going and prevent attacks at our rear.
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>>33411591
Honestly we should've done what Sun Ce did, and simply ride our 2000 Horses directly to Wang Lang and killed him like that.
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>>33411220
>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
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>>33411220
>>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
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>>33411220
>Go see how [Lingqi] is doing
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>>33411635

No sense crying over spilled milk.

Look to what we can do now.
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>>33411665
But what about next time?
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>>33411220
>>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
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>>33411220
>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
Secure the area before waifuism.
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>>33411220
>Go see how [Linqi] is doing
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>>33411428
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m06zzwuj781dxno/Zhu_XingSCEN002_.S11

Download to the media/scenario folder, then rename it to 'SCEN002.S11'.

Just tested it, and it loads fine. There is a bug where Lu Bu and Liu Biao's armies have Japanese test in their name for some reason. I'll also have to move Zhou Xin into Wang Lang's Army.
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>>33411678

Then propose the strategy with reasoning at an appropriate time?
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>>33411220
>>Go see how Lingqi is doing
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>>33411678

Thats in the future.

Right no this is a siege.
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>>33411220
>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
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>>33411220
>Go see how [insert officer] is doing
Lingqi
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>>33411591

I can support this.

Didn't Cao Cao do this before his invasion of the south?
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>>33411220
>Go see how [insert officer] is doing
Lingqi
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>>33411220
>>Share some food with the peasants, and get to know them
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>>33411220
>>Go see how [insert officer] is doing
Lingqi
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>>33411220
>Go see how lingqi is doing
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>>33411746

He did.
>>33411788 Perfect.
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Lingqi has done exceptionally well in the last battle, killing the enemy general Zhou Xin and having led the cavalry together with you to rout the enemy. And as ever, you find yourself infatuated with the girl for better or worse. You decide to take the time to see her.

You move around the camp as soldiers are eating merrily and laughing in mirth. The smell of stew and beef is heavy in the air and all around the camp you can see the fumes of food rising in the air. Morale is certainly high around the camp.

One of the soldiers sitting around a fire gets up to greet you, and when you ask where Lingqi is, he informs you that she in her tent eating alone.

"Err... General, no one is allowed ten feet near of Lady Lingqi's tent. With all due respect, perhaps you should stay away to not anger her."

You scoff with a wave of your hand. You're the commanding general here. You find Lingqi's tent, an announce your presence as you walk inside moving the flaps of the tent.

"Lingqi h-"

A chopsticks comes flying forward and hits you squarely on the head with a thud. You wince slightly in pain with a hand on your forehead.

"I specifically ordered no one comes near my place of rest."

You look at Lingqi, who is eating a small meal on her table. She is still in her black-clad armor, and her halberd is set aside near her bed. Her frows are burrowed and she looks at you with a frown.

"What do you want?"

>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle.
>I was wondering if we could eat and chat together.
>I want to discuss plans for the next battle...
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>>33411815
>>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle.
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>>33411815
>>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle.
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>>33411699
You're godly.
Thanks, anon.
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>>33411815

You waifufags are on your own for this shit.

The key to the south was popular support but nooo, waifuism.
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>>33411714
I'm not that guy, but as is, it's harvest season and fall. If we fight over the winter, it's likely going to end badly for us.

I say we secure the lands around the place, cut off supply lines, and try to damage their supplies and warehouses. It may demoralize the enemy and have the peasants inside try to get out so they don't starve to death during the winter.
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>>33411815
>>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle.
>>I was wondering if we could eat and chat together.

Not seeing why one can't lead into the other.
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>>33411815
>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle.
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>>33411847

How cold are Southern China/Wu territories during winter?

Fighting during winter is never a good thing, but we could have more time for campaigning since we aren't in Northern China.
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>>33411847

It's already been said that their supplies are sufficient to last for a year, even if we siege them. Also if you read last thread, all the land has been secured, save for the city.

When we siege, its either to pin them for a year or a quick campaign to conquer the city within 3 months or so.
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>>33411815
>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle.
We really need to start congratulating our other generals at this rate, though.
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>>33411815
Gods damn it, you stupid waifu lovers. This is going to bite us in the arse. Seriously, couldn't we do both? Because I am getting tired of the quite obvious spammer who wants to see this desolve into another waifu game.

Just.. congradulate her and get back to proper buisness.
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>>33411815
>>I want to discuss plans for the next battle...
Though I can kind of guess the tactics she wants to use.
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>>33411815
I hereby want to make you my wife to continue my line and combine it with that of Lu Bu's. Stop making me waste turns trying to court you you frigid bitch.
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>>33411815
>I was wondering if you had come out of the thoughts that had plagued you the last time we had fought
>We should fight again, I have not had a true victory against you until we are both at 100%
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>>33411919
>This is only the second time we've actually used a turn to talk to her
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>>33411909
>>33411884
>>33411863
>>33411834
>>33411828
She isn't the type that would appreciate that you know guys.
The very fact that we'd be discussing tactics with her would be compliment enough.
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>>33411940
Wait, what? Are you talking about another Lingqi? Cause the one I remember had a chip the size of china on her shoulder about getting recognized for her actions.
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>>33411815
>I want to discuss plans for the next battle...
>>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle.
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>>33411940

She has the strategic acumen of her father.
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>>33411940
True. Tactics make sense. Maybe we can suggest some support to the peasantry to ease the siege in the long term?
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>>33411984
Nothing has the strategic acumen of her father. Her father has negative strategic acumen.
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>>33412007

Lingqi's basically a really competent warrior who has expressed no real interest in strategy or tactics.

Lu Bu Jr.
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>>33411815
>>I want to discuss plans for the next battle...
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>>33411815
>I want to discuss plans for the next battle...
Also a bit presumptive ordering around her general.
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>>33411815
>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle
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>>33411815
>>I was wondering if we could eat and chat together.
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I can't care enough to vote on this shit.

Gentlemen, strategies for defeating Wang Lang? Lets at least get this underway.

>>33411591 This seems like a decent low cost move now to make.

When the siege comes, I'm hesitant on using fire, due to the damage to the populace and the people.

Instead, I think we should look to see if we can build siege towers to get onto the walls.
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>>33411815
>I was wondering if we could eat and chat together.
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>>33411815
>>I want to discuss plans for the next battle...
Will the waifufags leave us alone? There's a time and place for that. Now is not it.
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"You did exceptionally well in the last battle. Even killed an enemy general," you say with a smile, coming over to the table. "I just wanted to congratulate you."

Lingqi frowns even more, placing an elbow on the table and leaning her chin against her hand with legs crossed.

"Oh really? You couldn't have done it in another time? You had to come here for that?"

"Surely. Lord Lu Bu will be pleased once I inform him. And I must keep the praises separate from work, lest the other generals grown jealous."

Lingqi sighs slightly, though she is appeased.

"Well, have a seat since you're here. I was just thinking I had too much food here anyway."

You chuckle at her remarks, and take a seat opposite of her as offered. The food on the table is simple; some seasoned vegetables and a pot of rice and cooked meat as the main dishes. Lingqi casually goes back to eating her food, her legs still crossed and not caring much for table manners as is expected of women in these lands. You pour yourself a drink first.

>Why do you eat alone?
>What do you think of this campaign so far?
>Do you have any word on your sister?
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>>33411815
>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle.
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>I want to discuss plans for the next battle...
>>I wanted to congratulate you for the last battle
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>>33412074
Is it even a good idea to siege during winter? It's going to be cold and while the enemy is huddled up where it's warm, our troops are going to be freezing. There's a reason why no one fought wars during winter. Since we've failed in getting popular support, we should avoid doing things that'll make us unpopular towards our own troops.
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>>33411815
>I was wondering if we could eat and chat together
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>>33412131
>>Do you have any word on your sister?
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>>33412131
>What do you think of this campaign so far?
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>>33412131
>>Do you have any word on your sister?
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>>33412131
>What do you think of this campaign so far?
"Hopefully I haven't been too disappointing."
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>>33412131
>Why do you eat alone?
I think we're up along with our relationship where we can ask her questions like this.
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>>33412131
So we know she feels a lot of responsibility, doesn't particularly like fighting for its own sake, and is currently in a bit of a mood. Hmm.

>Do you have any word on your sister?
Might be the best way to approach this, obliquely.
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>>33412131
>>Why do you eat alone?
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>>33412131
>What do you think of this campaign so far?
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>>33412131
>>Why do you eat alone?

It might help if we're just more direct about this entire thing.
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>>33412140

The plan was to start the siege in the fall, so probably sometime soon.

We'll have a few months to attack but after that we still need to mantain the siege inorder to starve them.
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>>33412131
>"Well, have a seat since you're here. I was just thinking I had too much food here anyway."

tsun tsun tsun
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>>33412241
It won't work.
Remember how Wang Lang has a huge granary?
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>>33412131
>>Why do you eat alone?
Let's give this a shot.
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>>33412257

Yes and thats exactly why we need to siege to make sure they can't receive supplies on the sly.

Starving them out will take a year so we best get started.
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>>33412140

We aren't in the northern plains anymore. Winter isn't as severe down in the south.

The Battle of Changban was in October and Red Cliffs was in the winter. It obviously didn't end well for Cao Cao but that indicates that Winter campaigns are possible, though not ideal.

However, if psychological warfare and ploys don't work, I'd favor an attack on the city so we can consolidate our gains.
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>>33412140
The rest of China isn't going to wait. Here in Yangzhou the winters should be mild, and since we control the countryside our supply lines will remain secure. Since our morale is high is Wang Lang was never popular in the first place, there is little risk of revolt.
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>>33412131
>>Why do you eat alone?
Philosophical debate?
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>>33412131
>Why do you eat alone?
"Fengxian eats together, and he eats merrily, he adores the praise of his generals and friends."
"But you like to eat alone, Lu Lingqi, may I ask why?"
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>>33412298

The main problem is the damage to the city and her population.

I wonder if we should hold back on using fire and siege weaponry indiscriminately.

Either that or we allow safe passage for civilians to flee through our lines.
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>>33412294
>>33412298

Remember that Yuan Shu's likely our next enemy.

The Sun clan is popular in the south and they are with Yuan Shu. We need these territories quickly so we can start making them ours.

Taking out Wang Lang quickly is ideal here, even if it costs us more soldiers than the alternative.
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>>33412241
We have this in the bag long term though as long as no one else tries to attack us.

We control all of the territories surrounding Wang Lang. We should probably focus on fortifying our lands. Minimize losses so we can defend the land we just conquered. We can afford to be patient. Besides if we wait long enough Lu Bu-Senpai might come back after his own conquest and reinforce us and we can take the city easy.
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>>33412294
Alright that makes sense. I was thinking that it'd be cold enough that the rivers would freeze
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>>33412348
Honestly if we can get someone inside to set fire to the grain then this battle will be over in less than a week.
Speed however is of the essence, considering our position with Yuan Shao and Sun Ce.
That being said, I really wish we could recruit Sun Ce.
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>>33412360
>as no one else tries to attack us.

Wouldn't count on it
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Roll 1d100. Avg of 4, lowest dropped.
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>>33412360

A year is a long time, we must finish the campaign quickly in order to have time to consolidate our hold.

Besides, Lord Lu Bu charged us with subjugating these lands ourselves, it would be disrespectful for us to rely on him to finish things up.
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Rolled 27

>>33412408
OH FUCK PLEASE ROLL HIGH
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Rolled 21

>>33412408
Oh shit son
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Rolled 63

>>33412408
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Rolled 38

>>33412408
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Rolled 70

>>33412408
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>>33412360

We don't have time.

Yuan Shu is still out there and he might let loose Sun Ce to come against us.

Whats more Lu Bu is no longer in the north, Cao Cao will have a much easier time there and the three brothers may even be killed. He'll then turn to look towards the south.

Also... There will be no succession problems in the Liu camp. Liu Biao will give it to his eldest son since Liu Cong didn't marry his cousin and get the political machinations moving.
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>>33412404
We've got a few years on him.
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Rolled 67

>>33412431
>>33412430
>>33412425
>>33412423
Worst rolls ever.
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Oh man, /tg/ dice why do you hate us so.

We just want a waifu to make heirs with.
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>>33412423
>>33412425
>>33412430
>>33412431

LUCKY IN WAR AND NOTHING ELSE
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>>33412423
>>33412425
Waifuisim is over. She hates us. Can we move on now?
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>>33412423
>>33412425
>>33412430
>>33412431
ayy lmao
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>>33412458
>not having an heir

Do you even dynasty?
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I think Zhou Yun wouldn't be stupid enough to consider taking Lu Bu on in proper battle.
If anything they might join us and attempt to back-stab us, so that should be taken into thought.
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>>33412458
If this doesn't work we move on to trying to NTR Zhuge Liang.
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>>33412484
I don't have a problem with that. It's just that we had plenty of other things to do that NEED to be done. This can wait.
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Three Kingdoms Quest is up again! Most exciting time of the week has co-

>Waifu faggots insisting we choose waifu for every option whenever its a remote possibility.

Well I'm not surprised, but I had some small hope that /tg/ could actually play an MC as anything but retarded. Winning popular support or at least improving our relations with the generals who we aren't familiar with were the obvious options, oh well guess we'll just have to deal with "WAIFU! XD" for the rest of the quest unless we marry a homely woman of station later on or something.

On the upside at least RoTK was filled with awesome guys doing dumb shit and suffering the consequences for it. So at least Zhu Xin fits in.
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>>33412440

He's also likely to have more Yuan soldiers back him since Lu Bu is a much bigger threat now.

I think I posted in another thread about Sun Ce's likely generals: Zhou Yu, Lu Fan, Cheng Pu, Huang Gai, Zhou Tai, Han Deng.

Fortunately, Lu Bu can solo any of these generals in combat and so can Zhang Liao, Taishi Ci, and even us for the most part.

Their generals tend to be much more experienced than our counterparts though. We are very top heavy.
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>>33412518
I don't have a problem with that. Fuck benevolence.
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>>33412519
Not at the rate turns pass time. None of the other options were mission critical this moment, either.
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>>33412523

To be fair, Lu Linqi is a beloved daughter of Lord Lu Bu. Politically it's a real benefit to have her on our side.
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>>33412518

Fuck Zhuge Liang. Wei Yan did nothing wrong.
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>>33412550
>Fuck benevolence.
But xingcai isn't born yet
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>>33412523

You're not the only one upset, anon.

Well chime in on the possible siege plans, then.
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>>33412518
Lianshi is a much more excellent choice who is also in our side of the country.
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>>33412600

Disgusting melons, please go
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>>33412569
We're pretty much already Lu Bu's most trusted. It doesn't really give us anything we already have.
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>>33412600
>NTRing Quan

I can get behind this plan.
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>>33412569
Not with those rolls.

This was a waste of time.
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>>33412546
Duels won't matter much when we're pitted against some of Wu's future top commanders and Zhou Yu's intellect. Chen Gong's a decent strategist, but he's not a match for Zhou Yu.

I predict Sun Ce/Yuan Shu will be our major enemy for most of this quest, with Cao Cao the endgame. We already need to consider:

>No Lu Bu attacking Puyang means Cao Cao has no distractions while attacking Xu Province
>Assuming Liu Bei still wins, no Lu Bu to backstab him as he faces off against Yuan Shu, but that also means the province is unguarded against Cao Cao
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Lets just go full Sima Yao.
And make EVERY SINGLE GIRL IN THE THREE KINGDOMS OUR CONCUBINE!
ALL THE WAY UP TO 5000!
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>>33412624
Liu Bei is going to backstab the shit out of Cao Cao for muh Benevolence. We'll have to see how that turns out for him.
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>>33412624

There will also be no succession crisis with Liu Biao's camp. Since Liu Cong didn't marry Lady Cai's daughter, she won't bother stirring shit.
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"Everyone is enjoying themselves today and feasting together. Why do you eat alone here?" you ask taking a sip from your cup.

"None of your business," Lingqi says with a scowl.

"Hah, fair enough," you reply. "But all the others generals and I consider you an equal and a comrade in our force. We worry for you, and hope that you can place your trust in us as we do for you. If there is anything troubling you, feel free to consult me."

Lingqi slightly grumbles. From the expression on her face, you can tell she wants to say something but refrains from doing so. It seems your relationship and ability to talk is not on level enough for the girl to open up. You only chat a bit here and there before leaving Lingqi alone.

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The next day arrives and your men are in good spirits. In a few more months, Winter will come which will make it harder to take Hui Ji. With the city surrounded, you have the option of starving them out; though the city can last another year before running out of supplies. You are however a general that has been tasked with taking the Southlands as soon as possible, and you may feel like taking the city more quickly by fighting. What do you choose to do?

>Attack Hui Ji
>Starve the city out
>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals
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>>33412624

Yup, that's why I talked about the experience and intelligence of their generals.

Cheng Pu, Huang Gai, Lu Fan, and Sun Ce are all fairly intelligent generals.

Zhang Liao and our MC (basically Cao Ren) are their matches, but who else?

Gao Shun is a superb cavalry general, but a bit of a specialist. Taishi Ci is an awesome warrior, but how good was he as a general? (Real question, not rhetorical)

Lingqi, Lu Bu, and the 4 Lts are basically trash when it comes to strategy and tactics.

We really need to acquire additional strategists. Yu Fan, Lu Su, and other Wu advisers would be nice.
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So I've started reading the novel, turns out Diaochan is the same age as Lu Linqi is in this quest...
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>>33412720
>>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals

what a waste of time
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>>33412720
>>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals
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>>33412569
I have no problem with pursuing Lu Linqi in principle. I just wish people would save courting her for after we've actually gotten some significant victories and proven ourselves a capable leader and warrior to the other major players in the faction. We get by on being Lu Bu's trusted friend, but we haven't done much to solidify the loyalty of anyone (troops, peasants, ministers etc) that we work with and instead spend our time chasing after a girl who would probably be more receptive after we've kicked a bit more ass and proven ourselves competent.
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>attempt to burn the capitals Granaries
>Roll up with a fuck ton of food & established supply lines
>Offer to feed the city if Wang lang capitulates
>laugh as the city tears itself apart
>Profit
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>>33412720
>>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals
Also, fuck using rolls to decide on shit like that, it's fucking pathetic.
And inconsistent, considering we haven't done it at all before.
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>>33412720
>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals

For Zhang Liao's opinion, really
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>>33412720
>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals
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>>33412720
>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals
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It makes me laugh seeing even the tg dice shun and curse the waifu fags.
I'd say for them to learn their lesson, but I'm sure they won't.
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>>33412720
Call a council.
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>>33412748
>significant victories
What, like blowing up a 10k man strong army and taking over the entire province?

>but we haven't done much to solidify the loyalty of anyone
Why did everyone vote to ignore one of our generals when we had a free chance to improve his relationship, again?
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>>33412778
>What, like blowing up a 10k man strong army and taking over the entire province?

Thats not even complete yet.
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>>33412748
Yeah, the biggest problem here is that we're trying to 'make sure we have an heir', but our position is very shaky and could collapse at any moment. We can worry about marriage when our lands are stable and secure, not when we hold a single city and outlying villages and are surrounded by enemies.
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>>33412720
>>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals
All ideas must be laid out.
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>>33412720
>Attack Hui Ji
>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals

Going to attack, but maybe the generals have suggestions that can help increase the effectiveness.
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>>33412771
Of course it won't. They'll just go "oh, it's teegee dice"
But you know, if we didn't actually fucking need dice to do conversation skills, then maybe we'd already be in bed with the damn woman, or rejected entirely.
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>>33412784
One city with no support is left. This is mop up.
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>>33412720
>Call for a council and ask the opinions of the other generals

I'm up for >>33412751
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>>33412748

I was actually re-reading the quest last week and tried to look at our MC's battle record.

Zhu Xing has been a fairly good general so far.

His last defeat was at Chang'an, which we all remember, but he's won all his victories since then. He also took top credits for the letter ploy, and his successful southern campaign so far.

Zhu Xing has been very good when it comes to open field battles, but he's incredibly cautious when the enemy holds favorable defensive terrain.

It's worked out well for him in some ways, and poorly in others.

Overall, he's done pretty good so far.
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>>33412798

A 'mop up' that takes year. Troops of at least 4-6k and the final enemy general in a fortified city.

That is no mop up, this is a last boss.
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>>33412724
Yu Fan will be a bit tricky, as he was a direct and abrasive person, he might get along poorly with Lu Bu. Lu Su will also be difficult to find, he was just living on a farm when Zhou Yu came upon him. We'll need a lot of luck and some negotiating to get proper strategists, but that's what we need the most at the moment.
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>>33412810
>but he's incredibly cautious when the enemy holds favorable defensive terrain.
Now. Remember Chang an.
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>>33412720
Bloody hell do I hate dice for stuff like this. Well, we screwed up because of that, so let's get a game plan together.
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>>33412833
>Last boss
>Laughing Cao cao.gif
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>>33412810
Yeah, he's pretty good. But nothing outstanding. Of course most outstanding generals are simply lucky.
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>>33412837

My plan was to have Yu Fan as our personal strategist and part of our retinue. This should work since Lu Bu promised us our own city to govern.

He won't survive long if he's Lu Bu's direct subordinate. Reading up on him, I was amazed that he survived so long without some shanking his ass.
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>>33412833
Who will lose if he goes for an open field battle, knows this, and has let us take over the entire province because of it.

This guy isn't a last boss. He's a speedbump.
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>>33412751

Those are currently held in the city and are sufficient for a year.
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>>33412720
>>33412751
This seriously has some merit to it
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>>33412866
That sounds good, our top generals are reasonable people that are concerned with getting the job done and won't react violently to someone like Yu Fan. Lu Su would be an excellent diplomat, administrator, and adviser.
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>>33412720
>>Attack Hui Ji
Waiting a year is stupid and takes too long, I hope you all realize how stupid and incompetent it sounds for us to take an entire year just to seize one castle that doesn't even belong to anybody noteworthy.

Besides, who's to say we won't be attacked by another enemy sometime in that year? Keep in mind we're not the only ones here.

I say take it now, before it gets any harder for us.
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>>33412778
That's a single victory, but we need to prove that we're worthy of being Lu Bu's right hand, and that's a big shadow to step out of. If we had sealed the deal and caught Wang Lang before he got to safety that would have been a much bigger feather in our cap.

Don't forget we also have to live down the blunder of leaving the emperor exposed and vulnerable because we wanted to hang with sempai. That's going to take some doing. To be fair to Zhu Xing though, he's still young and is doing well despite a few set backs here and there. So I think he's at least on the right track.
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>>33412866
>>33412920

>One day, when Sun Quan travelling on horseback, he asked Yu Jin to ride beside him. Yu Fan saw that and shouted at Yu Jin, "You're a surrendered prisoner-of-war. How dare you ride side-by-side with my lord!" He wanted to hit Yu Jin with his horsewhip but Sun Quan ordered him to stop

>Yu Fan objected and urged him to execute Yu Jin. Sun Quan did not listen to Yu Fan. On the day of Yu Jin's departure, Sun Quan's subjects, including Yu Fan, came to see him off. Yu Fan told Yu Jin, "Don't you ever think that there are no great persons in Wu. It is just that my advice was not heeded."

>Mi Fang's men closed the gates so Yu Fan was unable to pass through. Yu Fan was furious and he shouted, "You leave the gates open when they are supposed to be closed, and you close them when they are supposed to be opened. Is this what you should be doing?"

>Once, when Sun Quan and Zhang Zhao were talking about immortals, Yu Fan pointed at Zhang and shouted, "They are all dead people but yet you call them immortals. How can there be immortals in this world?" At this point, Sun Quan could no longer tolerate Yu Fan so he exiled him to Jiao Province

This guy is fucking hilarious
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>>33412720
I really hate it when dice decide something like his, it feels really stupid.
It promotes relying on the dice rather than learning the character and how they function, what they like and what they hate.
It just all lies on the die, and that's not something it should ever rest on
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>>33412897
what are Saboteurs?

If it fails to bring the conflict to an end it serves to bring Wang lang ill will.

If it ends the conflict we come across as benevolent & kind.

either way we win
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>>33412720
>Attack Hui Ji
Just attack already.
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>>33412751
Sounds good. I wonder if those bandits would be useful for this kind of sabotage.
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>>33412922

I haven't read many posts in support of sieging this fucking castle for a year.

People just want to call a council first, because why the hell not?
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>>33412964
Time for anther Xu Chang
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>>33412938
Keep in mind rolls also take into account our stats. I think it was appropriate given that it was an important point in the conversation and all the nuances involved can't be determined by the players.
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>>33412948

We will need to infiltrate the city first.I'm not against the plan. I just thought that you might have thought that the graneries were outside the city.
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>>33412720
CALL FOR A COUNCIL
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I propose we pull a Cao Cao.
We send a 500-1000 of our weakest men to attack the walls, they will fail, obviously.
And then we retreat, as if to rally and re-couperate our forces. This will make Wang Lang drunk on victory, and attempt to attack us on the open fields, as he no longer has a competent strategist
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>>33412998
That just promotes spamming till the dice are good enough. I don't particularly like it.
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>>33413015

I doubt he'll be that stupid.

We wacked off his commanders and killed off more than half of his army.

Hes not going to fall for something like this.
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>>33412998
I wouldn't mind it so much If Raian actually let us build up our CHA stat, but no, we spend all of our sessions devoted to war, and even when we plan or talk or anything in the middle, it does not help.
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>>33412974

You are incorrect for many, many reasons.

The first being that it was Chang'an and not Xuchang.

The second being that we massively outnumber Wang Lang at this point.

The third being that an unsuccessful assault is unlikely to reverse our gains, merely inflict losses and perhaps force us to starve them out.

The fourth being that the enemy is being lead by Wang Lang without any of his capable generals (since we killed them all), and not Jia Xu.

>>33413015

Wang Lang might be incompetent, but he's not Lu Bu.
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>>33413047
We haven't had a stat up in 5 threads, anon. Over a month.
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>>33413022
I don't think so, since we have so few chances.
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>>33413039
Liu Bei did, and he didn't even have a numbers advantage.
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>>33413047
That's less Raian and Lu Bu fags wanting Cha & Pol to be our dumpstat
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>>33413078
Shufag pls.
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>>33413015
>>33413039

Also keep in mind this would make us VERY unpopular in our own army.

We want people to like us, right?
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>>33413053
It was Liu Bei that was tricked like that anon, not Lu Bu.
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>>33413047

You serious? No stat-ups until campaign ends. And CHA can go up during war sessions, since most of the session is spent on planning and social interactions anyway.

>>33413078

>Not wanting Pol to be our dump stat

You can't be a mediocre jack of all trades when you are a general. That's why we recruit advisers like Yu Fan and Yan Jung into our retinue.
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>>33413047

Raian said we'll get our stat up at the end of this campaign. Lets work towards it.

>>33413078

I still support Pol as the dump stat. Cha is way too useful.
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>>33413094
>Implying
Remember when Cao Cao had people defecting left right and centre for those devious plans?
Yeah, neither do I.
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>>33413093
>Shufag
>Not recognizing Cao Cao was the perfect fucking example of a jack of all trades.
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>>33413094

What? The plan won't work because a blind child could see it coming not for whatever you are talking about.
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>>33412998
Yeah, having the roll is the whole reason why Charisma is a thing. I'm sure if our relationship improves enough we probably won't even have to roll to talk about that particular subject and for more important dialogs I'm sure they will be more involved than simply rolling the dice anyway.
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>>33413094
This. Let's try some subterfuge in preparation, then bombard the city for a month or two and see what develops.
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>>33413126
At least you're honest about wanting to cripple us.
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You decide to hold a council to determine your next move. The generals gather around the main tent and table once again. When everyone is present, you nod and begin.

"Generals, first, I would like to thank you all for making this campaign a success so far. Wang Lang's defeat has only been accomplished with your help. However, the city of Hui Ji still stands, and as long as Wang Lang lives, he may return to attack our conquered lands. Winter is coming soon, and we have the option of keeping this city at bay until they starve while the other forces return to Jian Ye to rest, or we may attack the city now. What say all of you?"

"Retreating and waiting out a year shows a poor demonstration of a warrior," Song Xian states flatly. "I do not want to go back without having taken the city."

"Agreed," Lingqi responds. "We already retreated in the Summer when we could have pursued and defeated Wang Lang. It would be humiliating for us and for my Father's name if we go stand still once again."

Zhang Liao rubs his chin, contemplating the manner before speaking.

"I think we should take Hui Ji as well. There is still Yuan Shu to the north, and I worry should he attack us if we keep delaying our campaign. Should he attack and Wang Lang move out in response, it may spell trouble for our forces."

It seems the majority have stated to take Hui Ji. You can the council now and begin your task, or ask for more opinions on taking Hui Ji.

>Begin the attack on Hui Ji
>Ask advice on taking Hui Ji
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>>33413126
Actually Cao Cao was a hero of all trades, only stat that was mediocre was war.
This is the same for Liu Bei, Sun Quan...

>>33413144
You're calling Liu Bei a blind child now?
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>>33413166
>>Ask advice on taking Hui Ji
Cunning plans?
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>>33413166
>>Ask advice on taking Hui Ji
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>>33413166
>>Ask advice on taking Hui Ji
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>>33413053

I agree with this guy.

We need to take this castle NOW.

Even if it's a siege, we still have more advantages than disadvantages, we have way more to gain than to lose.
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>>33413166
>Ask advice on taking Hui Ji
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>>33413166
ask advice on taking hui ji
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>>33413166
>Ask advice on taking Hui Ji
We've never done a siege before. Any advice?
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>>33413166
We weren't really asking for that reason Raian....only reason why war council's relevant is because we're literally retarded when it comes to battle
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>>33413166
>>Ask advice on taking Hui Ji

Raise this: >>33411591 as a possible plan while infiltrating the saboteurs.
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>>33413160
Nigga dah fuq you talking about? expanding on stats that aren't war oriented is a good thing.

>>33413166
>Ask advice on taking Hui Ji

also mention >>33412751 as a possibility to the council.


>>33413185
Point still stands though.
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>>33413232
>Jack of all trades
>Useful
>Ever

You want us to be a mook forever.
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>>33413166
>>As Advice on taking Hui Ji

And I want to second >>33413212. That sounds like a good idea
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Our War is already 85 unbuffed, that's very high compared to most generals. We need to work on, at the least, Leadership and Charisma.
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>>33413166
>>Ask advice on taking Hui Ji
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>something didn't go our way
>time to whine and complain
>there were literally like 5 times where training a stat was an option

I can't wait until we actually lose a battle when going against someone like Sun Ce or Cao Cao.
>wahhh railroad
>wahhh not enough hints on silver plattet
>wahhh QM just wants to see us fail
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>>33413232
If we want to get to Cao Cao's level, with the current way we're going, we'll be about 40 before we reach his base stats, not including the possible huge stat leap we'll have after this campaign
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>>33413265
>most generals
None of the actual good ones we're worried about, so no. You have to be in the 90's to really count yourself among the heroes.
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>>33413207

The collective decisions have been pretty good so far.

Our only problem has been that we are far too cautious when it comes to assaulting enemy positions when they have favorable terrain.

But that's not a fatal weakness and it will likely be balanced out.

>>33413232

If we had 449 points to dole out, we could be the second coming of Cao Cao.

But we don't, we have limited number of points to allocate due to the nature of these games.

I can see why CHA would be useful in our position, Pol is the least useful out of bunch for many reasons including the fact that we can have political advisers.

WAR and LDR will always be our bread and butter stats since those are stats we have to rely on the most. INT is also incredibly useful, but can be supplemented by intelligent strategists.
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>>33413265
>that's very high compared to most generals.
Among war only generals it's pretty fucking terrible actually.
We need to be pushing 90s to be fighting most major generals equally
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>>33413281
But we're already 89 buffed. Are we really expecting to suddenly be on the level of the greatest generals of the era right off the bat? We don't need to try to be a second Lu Bu.
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So this quest got me back into RoTK X again. I had forgotten how relaxing the game is.

I'm still just as awful at the debates as I remember being, though.
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>>33413311
>part 9
>runs once a week
>right off the bat

nigger, what?
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>>33413265

We are the 4th strongest general in our own (admittedly top heavy) faction.

I get your point and think LDR is a big priority since WAR kinda buffs itself on its own accord. But we aren't an ultimate badass.

We can beat Zhang Liao and Taishi Ci if we get decent rolls but we are still slightly weaker than them.
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>>33413311
Lu Bu is about 105.
Most major enemy generals, such as Dian Wei, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, lie on the upper 90s.
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>>33413331
Lingqi is probably better than us too, we just rolled really really damned well in her duel.
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>>33413166
>Ask for advice, but give our own thoughts.
Honestly? Unless we can end this fast, we may need to resort to low methods to shorten the seige. Targeting their vast food stores could work, but it's going to REALLY screw with the locals and make us hated among them.

Might be a good idea to concentrate fire on a section of the wall with our seige and try to bust through the hole as well. Either way, we should likely give the peasants here SOME support so we don't have to worry about revolts behind us. Perhaps as a thank you for putting up with us last night?
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>>33413329
It's AD 192. We're not even 10% of the way through .
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>>33413166
We have catapults. How long would it take to punch a hole in their walls?
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>>33413331
I think we are also younger than them. Zhu Xing is only 20, so after a couple of campaigns I imagine he'll start to hit stride enough to be comparable to the other major players of the era.

>>33413166
Ask advice on taking Hu Ji. Get feed back from the other generals on the proposed schemes. If we can shatter the enemy's morale then hopefully our gains will be much greater and our losses much fewer.
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>>33413385
>Targeting their vast food stores could work, but it's going to REALLY screw with the locals and make us hated among them.

We're taking about the government's own stores, those aren't normally available to public anyway.
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>>33413349

Nah, we are stronger than her.

>>33413346
>>33413306

Did you guys confuse major enemy generals with the "Biggest Fucking Badasses" of the entire Three Kingdoms?

Or are Cao Ren, Yu Jin, and Yue Jin suddenly weak pieces of shit?
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>>33413349
Lingqi's War is 89 in RotTK XI, we're about even.
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>>33413385

The food one should be fine as long as we feed all the civilians the moment the city falls.
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>>33413385
If we do it as >>33412751 says we roll with a huge amount of food & a stable supply line so that we can troll the city into surrendering by offering them food if they do so.
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>>33413448

We also probably passed her in WAR after beating the shit out of her if we want to get meta-gamey.
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>>33413493
Potential upgrades are not actual upgrades.
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>>33413346
I don't think we're going to be facing the most powerful generals of the era in equal combat in the imminent future.

Even Sun Ce's conquest of Wu is several years off.
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>>33413385

Targeting the food supply was a common method of war, and it doesn't breed animosity so long as we can provide immediate assistance after they surrender.

They are likely to put more blame on their incompetent lord for their suffering. We can help spread that message as well.

>>33413507

This campaign is likely to end pretty soon. So unless Wang Lang took steroids, I think we'll be just fine on the WAR front.
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>>33413436
>Or are Cao Ren, Yu Jin, and Yue Jin suddenly weak pieces of shit?

We're also a match for Huang Gai, Han Dang and Guan Ping.
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"Generals, do you have any suggestions on taking Hui Ji? I wish to take it as quickly as possible before the dread of Winter. A straight up siege may take too long."

"We bombard them for a few days, then commence an all our attack," Song Xian states. "We should be giving no rest to the enemy and make them surrender as quickly as possible."

"Morale is the key force here," Gao Shun says. "The enemy has already lost numerous battles, and they have been holed up in the city for months now. If the General can find a way to deplete their spirit, we should be able to take Hui Ji easily."

"I am in agreement," Zhang Liao states with a nod. "I have heard Wang Lang to be a cowardly man, if not pragmatic. If we should show him defeat is imminent, then he should surrender. As for any ploys and the like... I am afraid that is Master Chen Gong's expertise, not mine. Perhaps you can focus on letting the enemy know that our numbers are larger than theirs. Or attempting to rile the populace that live in the city."

With the advice given, you nod and decide to move out your forces. Your troops march only a short day toward Hui Ji, and in no time, the city can be seen. Alarms rise through the city when your army approaches, and soldiers move to the walls to defend. All in all the enemy has around 4000 troops, while you have amassed an army of 10,000. You have an adequate amount of siege weapons and your supply lines are good enough that you no longer need to worry for supplies. The city walls are moderately strong, and the gates are heavily monitored that it seems people can no longer enter or leave the city. How do you proceed with this battle?

>Begin bombarding the enemy with siege weapons for a couple of days
>Commence an all out attack
>Taunt the enemy with insults
>other various, write-in ploys
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>>33413547
>Han Dang
Who?
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>>33413559

Dammit Raian.

The reason why that earlier ploy was suggested earlier was because the enemy would shut its gates on our approach.
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>>33413597
There are no brakes on this train.
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>>33413564

>Not knowing about Han Dang

One of Wu's strongest generals? They put him in Dynasty Warriors so even casuals should know about him now.

>Begin bombarding the enemy with siege weapons for a couple of days
>Taunt the enemy with insults
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>>33413597
Oh well, this is still a battle we can probably win easily enough.
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>>33413559
>Begin bombarding the enemy with siege weapons for a couple of days
>other various, write-in ploys

Start digging tunnels small ones mind you, small enough for maybe a dozen men to infiltrate the city.
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>>33413559
>Begin bombarding the enemy with siege weapons for a couple of days
But also send in letters stating that everybody in the city will be unharmed if Wang Lang surrenders immediately. State that Lu Bu will be arriving soon with an additional force of 10000 troops to lay siege to the city.
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> tg is bad at courting women

news at 11 you bunch of permavirgins
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>>33413627
>doesn't get the joke

This thread is really full of humourless lesbians, isn't it?
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>>33413627
Han Dang's gimmick in DW is that nobody notices him and his efforts. Whenever he's assigned a task, he's shocked that somebody noticed his presence.
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>>33413559
>>33413597

No brakes on the train.

>other various, write-in ploys
Use our siege weapons to deploy letters of >>33411591.

Lots of containers, lots of letters.

ALL SHALL SEE OUR WORDS.
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>>33413559
>>Begin bombarding the enemy with siege weapons for a couple of days

Once we do lent a letter asking Wang Lang to surrender in exchange for favorable treatment. He must know he stands no chance of success
Do not antagonize him..
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>>33413559
>>Begin bombarding the enemy with siege weapons for a couple of days
>Taunt the enemy with insults
>other various, write-in ploys

1. Challenge the enemy to duels to shame them and demoralize their morale. They no longer have any generals capable of beating us.

2. Offer gold tassel reward and promotion to any who bring Wang Lang's head
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>>33413674

Oh, this is good.

Send our letters over the walls.
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>>33413666
>>33413673

I didn't play DW 8, I just know he was included.
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>>33413597
>has had numerous plans ignored over the course of this quest
>expected this time to be different

You people are suckers for punishment.
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I say we use the catapults....

But, we catapult oUR MEN

ONCE THEY GET INSIDE WE WILL ASSAULT HUI JI FROM INSIDE AND OUT.
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>>33413718
Call them Manapults from now on.
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>>33413559
>Begin bombardment
>Other ploys
Have men chat loudly about our situation. How we have them completely surrounded, outnumbered, and that if this goes on, Lu Bu will likely arrive and end things. If letters won't go through, word of mouth will.
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>>33413559
>>33413674
Letters to show people they have a chances at getting out alive.

>>33413718
I think we would need the wing suits to make that work.
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>>33413718
...or we catapult letters into the city to tell them how favorable it is to surrender rather than to be mowe down by our 10,000 men. Scare them. Tell them surrender now and we pardon most of them, or we rape and slaughter EVERYONE. Because deep down they know we can.
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>>33413718
GENIUS
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>>33413675
I like this plan. Demoralize them and offer gold to anyone who brings us Wang Lang's head.

Wang Lang has no one left to really help defend him.

We can also try bluffing Wang Lang. Like saying "Lu Bu is on his way to fortify our position in a month."

Of course if none of this stuff works we can just war our way through.
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>>33413766

If we saved the heads of our enemies, we could bombard them with em.
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>>33413797
We have one helmet. Not much of a bombardment, but it might hurt someone's feelings.
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>>33413559
>Begin bombarding the enemy with siege weapons for a couple of days
>other various, write-in ploys
One day of bombardment followed by one day of letters
>>33413674
Rinse and repeat.
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>>33413795

We can bombard them with both siege and letters.

Since the letters will be addressed to both him and the people, he'll have to keep looking over his shoulder till hes dead or surrendered.
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>>33413718
Speaking of which, I remember Genghis Khan used a similar tactic, catapulting the dead bodies of the enemy soldiers to severely demoralize them. We could keep that in mind for future sieges, it's the most bad ass way to demoralize the enemy.
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Aside from letters, lets catapult dead animals

Die by the plague
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>>33413805
Leave the Helmet alone. She's a valuable commander even if she's a klutz.
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>>33413824
It also helps spread disease and really pisses off the populace.
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>>33413824
Man, if only we could be Temujin 1000 years early.
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>>33413824

its one of the SOPs in heavy sieges.

Hell, its even used in The Return of The King.
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>>33413718
>Houken be my name
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>>33413842

Do we really want to kill off the civilians who will be the backbone of our economy and recruiting base?
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>>33413824
That sounds awesome and would most likely be really effective.

The one possible downside would be we would likely get a reputation as a barabarian, although I don't personally see that as a problem
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>>33413864

Something to consider for future sieges.

At least we shouldnt do it in what will be our territory.
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>>33413864
Barbarians get all the bitches. Willingly or not.
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>>33413864

Reputation matters a lot in the Three Kingdoms era, particularly when our lord is Lu Bu.
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>>33413878
Mah nigga we Concubine lord now.
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>>33413864
It'd be better to save that for really tough sieges where getting the populace very pissed off at us is an acceptable loss.
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>>33413842
>>33413824
We don't want to fucking kill our populace.
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>Bombard the enemy for a few days, then send letters of surrender.

Roll 1d100, avg of 4, lowest dropped.
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Rolled 36

>>33413949
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Rolled 61

>>33413949

Bombard them with Yu Mi's helmet
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Rolled 97

>>33413949
Be merciful
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Rolled 81

>>33413949

DIE
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Rolled 45

>>33413949
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>>33413961
>>33413972
>>33413976
Goddamn.
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>>33413559
begin bombarding the enemy with siege weapons for a couple of days
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Rolled 77

>>33413949
>>33413961
>>33413972
>>33413976
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>>33413976
>>33413972
>>33413961
Yes, finally.
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Rolled 88

>>33413961
No.
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Rolled 87

>>33413957
>>33413961
>>33413972
>>33413976

YESSS.

79.6 AVG
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Rolled 7

>>33413949
Well here's hoping.
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>>33413961
>>33413972
>>33413976

Where's that youtube of Cao Cao laughing like a Maniac when we need it?
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>>33413949
>>33413961
>>33413972
>>33413976
and the sky was full of fire
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Rolled 65

>>33414006
I'm very glad I was late to the roll off...
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>>33414030

AS I BECOME DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS
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>>33413957
>>33413961
>>33413972
>>33413976
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-z0DhUVtsA
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>>33413961
No! Not Helmet Commander Yumi!
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We're going to get the people to surrender Wang Lang to us, rather than getting Wang Lang to surrender the city to us, right?

We promised to take his head.
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>>33413961
>>33413972
>>33413976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05I7wTjF8Cg&list=PLA57AF5CEA0F8D4E7&index=22
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Rolled 87

>>33414108

Either way is fine.

If he surrenders he can keep his head.
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>>33414108

If he surrenders first, his life will be spared but he will be exiled.

If we execute him after he surrenders, our army will pick up a bad reputation and enemy generals and rulers will be reluctant to surrender.

If they surrender Wang Lang to us? Off with his head
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>>33413961
Window Boy would be highly displeased.
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>>33414141
What about if we just refuse his surrender attempts in particular?
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>>33413961
>>33413972
>>33413976
HOREY SHET
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Rolled 57

>>33414141

Not sure about exile. He can be dangerous if he runs over to Cao Cao's side.
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>>33414141
Agreed, keeping our word to murder someone said in the heat of battle is less important than future rulers being willing to surrender to us when we offer it to them.
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>>33413961
>>33413972
>>33413976
As expected, our war rolls are really high and I am totally ok with that.
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>>33414102
Part of me is picturing the helmet being the one who kills Wang Lang. It would be one for the history books.
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>>33414108
>Implying a dead cow won't crush him as we bombard his window
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Rolled 78

>>33414182

Why.

It saves lives and keeps more of the city intact.
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>>33414192

He's a corrupt administrator and an incompetent general. Let Cao Cao have him.

Don't employ the questionable etc etc etc
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>>33414198
I'm glad you see reason with my argument!
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You order the catapults to be set up and to begin bombarding the enemy for a couple days. Lobs of boulders and fire pots are hurled to the city, and with the men defending the walls lacking in experience in dealing with a siege, the bombardment causes decent damage to the enemy forces and walls, killing a few hundred. After days of bombardment and the enemy tired, cases of letters demanding surrender and safety for those who will give up, as well as stories of Wang Lang's allies having been defeated are sent flying over the city.

Despite the bombardment, there are still enemy forces intact so they refuse to surrender yet, though their morale has suffered and you can see the enemy soldiers are in a miserable state.

>Continue the bombardment for more days
>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days
>other, write-in ploys
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>>33414192
I'm not so sure about exile either, but I don't know if he's the kind of officer who'd be in high demand
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>>33414238
>>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days

The time has come.
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>>33414238
>>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days
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Rolled 6

>>33414238
>>Continue the bombardment for more days

Keep it up once more.
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>>33414238
>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days

Another spurt of bombardment might cause them to wonder if their allies are really defeated, if we're so reluctant to fight.
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>>33414238
>>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days
The time is now. Unless we really need to do more damage than what has been done.
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>>33414238
>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days
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>>33414238
>>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days
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>>33414238
>>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days

The enemy are demoralized and weak. Now is the time to strike.
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>>33414238
Attack. Let's finish this.
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>>33414238
>Continue the bombardment for more days
For good measure
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>inb4 chang an 2:chang ander
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Lightning assault
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>>33414238
>>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days

Attack from three sides. The demoralized enemy will flee through the fourth side and disperse into the countryside, where we can recruit them later.
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I'm going to have to agree with attacking the walls. We'll loose some men doing so sadly, but their troops are shaken, their defenses are weakened and we have veteran troops with good morale itching for some glory. If we can end it in a big push we should do so.
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>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days

Roll 1d100, avg of 4, lowest dropped.
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>>33414238
>>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days.
We finish this fast. Also we don't want to destroy the walls too badly. We want to be able to use this city in the future
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>>33414238
>>Continue the bombardment for more days
Just let them give themselves up.
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Rolled 17

>>33414356
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Rolled 43

>>33414356
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Rolled 43

>>33414356
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Rolled 27

>>33414356

Glory to Gao Shun
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Rolled 77

>>33414356
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Rolled 39

>>33414356
CHARGE!
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>>33414238
>Attack the enemy with all your forces for a few days
Even if we only skim a few men off, we can make a huge ruckus of it. Have the helmet on a pole, make noise around the city and have our cavalry make a few laps around the walls as our infantry nip at the holes.
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>>33414342
We could even announce that citizens and soldiers fleeing from that side will be allowed to leave unmolested so long as they leave their arms at the gate.
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Rolled 75

>>33414356
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There's the /tg/ dice I've been waiting for. It wasn't enough to sabotage the waifu, no.
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Rolled 16

>>33414365
>>33414367
>>33414371
>>33414375

Such shit
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>>33414365
>>33414367
>>33414371
>>33414375
disgusting rolls.
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>>33414365
>>33414367
>>33414371
>>33414375
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Rolled 66

>>33414356
PREPARE THE SIEGE TOWER
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Rolled 9

>>33414356
Oy vey
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>>33414365
>>33414367
>>33414371
>>33414375

Terrible rolls, but correct approach. We'll continue the assault if/after this one fails.

Our WAR and their shittiness might still make this a success.
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>>33414365
>>33414367
>>33414371
>>33414375
Oof, bad.
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>>33414399
The irony
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If their backs are against the wall and we go balls deep, they may fight to the last man. I recommend at least soliciting surrender. If they refuse, crush them.
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Rolled 14

God shit rolls sorry guys
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>>33414367
>>33414371
What demon sorcery is this? I really hope this causes something good to happen.. for once. This is too crazy for a straight out fail.
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Rolled 92

>>33414412
I predict we'll take the city but with a decent amount of losses

At least that's what I hope
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Rolled 16

>>33414412

I dunno. They pushing our troops off the walls will boost their morale.

I'd suggest another period of bombardment before charing.
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>>33414432
If they do well vs this direct assault their morale may go up. If that's the case it'd be wiser to use the catapults again.
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How about we focus most of our forces to attack a certain part of the castle, since we greatly out number them they'll most likely concentrate most, if not all of their forces there.

While they do, a smaller group of forces sneak around to silently climb up the castle walls in a part of the castle that won't be guarded, maybe? Then we either attack them from both sides or if we somehow know or have a good guess at where whatshisface will be, we go straight to cutting the head off the snake.

It's probably a stupid idea but I am not a man known for amazing strategies. Idunno, just yeah..
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>>33414412
37 average. We're not winning this.
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>>33414445

It depends on the result.

If it's a total victory for them (unlikely), then yes catapults.

If it's mixed success, then I'd push for a second round of attack. Don't let them rest.
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>>33414476

We've had partial or decent successes with shittier rolls. Remember Raian adds modifiers and our modifiers are quite good here since it's a straight-up assault.
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>>33414479
Same, if they hold us off it'll be by the skin of their teeth, we just have to keep up the pressure.
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>>33414479
We rolled pretty low for our river attack if I remember, I'm sure if we use some sort of plan of attack in our method of charging we'd be able to mitigate losses.

Unfortunately there's not much to do with a siege.

I suggest we attack from two sides. Don't split up our forces too heavily but keep our enemy a bit split up.
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>>33414523

Well, we outnumbered them more than 2 to 1 so splitting troops in two seems like a sound approach.
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>>33414523
Splitting up is a bad idea. It's easier to exploit breaches in their lines since the available frontage is limited. We just keep pouring men through the hole and surround their forces.
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>>33414523
So one army on one side and the other on the opposite side each penetrating the city from a different angle?
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>>33414563
>Implying 2 to 1 numbers matter in a siege

Jesus christ do you even siege?
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You give the order to attack, with Gao Shun leading the rams to the gates while the other generals attack the walls with siege ladders and supporting fire. Despite having suffered days of bombardment, the enemy forces fight back with everything they got to some impressive display. Siege ladders are broken and thrown back, and the first ram at the enemy gate is destroyed by large boulders being thrown down and fire arrows before much damage is done to the gates.

"When men are cornered, rats become tigers," Zhang Liao comments rubbing his beard. "I will go to the forefront and rally the men."

Zhang Liao charges to the front lines, and yells for the soldiers to keep up their attack. He himself manages to go up the walls himself, killing a few enemy troops before being driven back down by troops from the other walls reinforcing. Gao Shun remains calm, as he sends another ram to hit the gates before it falls as well.

The next few days see tenacious enemy defends, your forces only doing adequately because of the generals under your command. The gate to the city is battered, some of the walls show cracks. A thousand enemies have been killed, but a thousand on your side have been killed as well. It seems the repelling of your forces have slightly heightened the enemy forces.

>Continue with another attack
>other, write-in ploys
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>>33414606
>>Continue with another attack

They are down to less than 3000. Partial success is fine, keep attacking.
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Rolled 49

>>33414606
>>other, write-in ploys
Bring in the artillery
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>>33414523
>I suggest we attack from two sides.
This is a bad idea, two to one is not great odds in a siege. The ideal is closer to six to one. Numbers count for less in siege warfare unless its by a lot.
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>>33414606
>>Continue with another attack
Lu Bu school of war coming through
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>>33414606
>>other, write-in ploys

SECRET TUNNEL! SECRET TUNNEL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al-889M7_CQ
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>>33414606
Continue with the attack.
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>>33414606
>other, write-in ploys
Continue the bombardment for a few days, take down one of the walls or the gates.
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>>33414606
>Continue with another attack

Again, press the attack on three sides. The enemy will flee as they are overwhelmed, we need to give them someplace to run away towards.
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>>33414626

We are probably closer to 3.5 to 1 at this point, I think. Not commenting on the strategy, just numbers.

They started with 4000, lost few hundred to bombardments, lost another 1000 to our assault.

We started with 10,000, lost 1000 to the assault.
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>>33414578
Yeah pretty much, we outnumber them.
Also they're morale is low and they don't have any good leaders to help them keep their shit together. I'm guessing they'd panic
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>>33414674
As said before, splitting forces is a terrible idea at this stage.
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>>33414630
Let's leave being Lu Bu to Lu Bu. Emulating him has not worked out well for us in the past.
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Rolled 84

>>33414606
>>Continue with another attack
>>other, write-in ploys
Lead the next charge.

TAKE CHARGE
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>>33414652
Seconded!

Either this or use a Siege Tower + Smokescreen

nnNovac near
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>>33414606
>"When men are cornered, rats become tigers," Zhang Liao comments rubbing his beard.
Gee who could have seen this coming.
>Other, if we have Zhou Xin and Yu Mi's heads, catapult them into the city after stuffing letters of surrender into their mouths
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Also, let's personally lead this assault.
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>>33414606
>>Continue the attack
Lets continue pummeling, brute force seems to be yielding the best results.
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>>33414752

1000 for 1000 for fucking terrible rolls is an acceptable result.

I was expecting worse to be honest. Thank you Based Zhang Liao and Gao Shun
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>>33414705
Oh... what if we leave a contingent with Zhang Liao, lead the attack on the walls to draw their attention and have Zhang Liao attack the side left most vulnerable? Still attack from all sides but with us at the helm the defenders will try their damdest to kill us and call reinforcements from the other sides. If we purposely only attack with half heated effort at wall or two that may give them room to reroute men and give Zhang Liao an opening.
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Hey, since things are different in these Three Kingdoms, does that mean that new people will rise up from footsoldierdom to become officers?

Or is this just gonna be stuck to canon?
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I still say we catapult ourselves and our men onto the castle to save the us the hassle...
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>>33414815
MC needs his rival, so having an OC rival would make sense.
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>>33414815

It's more likely that insignificant officers will grow up to become important officers I think. There's enough "canon" insignificant figures in history.

We've already wrecked Wu's dream team by killing or recruiting so many of their generals.
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>>33414855
Will Guo Coldsteel be a scheming strategist as opposed to our strong warrior?
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>>33414855

That sounds super dumb.

What's wrong with having a rivalry with historical badass officers? It's not like there's a shortage of them.
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>>33414881
Nah, a rival will have to be in the same field as we are.
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Rolled 14

>>33414736
I agree. We are great warriors as well, and our presence ought to inspire the troops
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>>33414606
>>Continue with another attack
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>>33414693
It is not splitting the forces, it's broadening the front so the enemy has to defend a longer stretch of the walls.
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>>33414902
Because /tg/ has gotta catch em all syndrome. Actually the main reason to use an OC rival/nemesis is to take Meta completely off the board when facing them. Other than that no real reason not to use on of the many many many established characters.
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>>33414815
Hey, if certain people don't bang each other, are their children lost forever, or do they show up as the children of someone else but with a different name?
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We have to make it seem like they're not trapped. Leave a big enough opening so that when the next assault starts, they have a choice between staying to fight or fleeing the city to safety.
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>>33414957
Forcing a breach at one point is far easier than trying for breaches at multiple points. They can defend the wall fully even while our attacks become weaker.
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>>33414881
>>33414902
>Not wanting some level of Kingdom involved in this.
>Not wanting to have a scheming strategist as our rival

c'mon the only difference between the Real ROTK & this is that Zhuge liang isn't the MC this time.
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S the consensus is:
- Don't split the forces
- Lead the charge
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When can we roll? This next update is going to take forever if we don't do it soon.
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>>33415018
I'll capitulate if we get a sword saint battle waifu and owl strategist imouto as part of the deal.

>>33415036
We should leave command to Zhang Liao if we die (I think he's the most senior officer besides ourselves right?)
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Rolled 12

>>33415062
How about we just do it now
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>>33415087

Yeah, not with rolls that like.
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>>33414881
Hey, we can strategize as well as we can fight. Just like how we are sometimes bested, sometimes we're an idiot. The thing is to learn what strategies work and which ones don't during our career as a general.
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>>33415087
Yes, keep that roll.
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>>33415087
I CHANGE MY MIND LETS NOT DO IT NOW, LET'S NOT.
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>>33415097
Because having a dice roll determine outcomes is conducive to learning lessons.
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>>33415119
If it were a 90 you would be insisting that we keep it, ya moron
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"We will give the enemy no quarter for rest. Continue the attacks. I will personally oversee the front myself. Men, charge the enemy once more! The first man to take the enemy flag will be rewarded ten households once we take Hui Ji!"

The soldiers shout raising their weapons, and begin the attack again as you lead the men to the walls. Gao Shun once again leads the rams to the gates and keeps up his stoic, mannerly attacks. By hours in, the gate is broken down, and Gao Shun orders a fierce charge within the enemy lines. On your side, parts of the enemy walls slowly begin to break and your men continue your fierce attacks. On the second day, you lead a group of men and begin tunneling under a weakened section of the wall. After long hours, your soldiers manage to destroy a section of the wall and you order for men to pour in.

Enemy forces fight with all they can, and they manage to drive your forces back barely. By the third day, only a thousand and few hundred remain on the enemy side. As you prepare for another attack to begin, seeing as how your forces can now charge through the gates and broken section of the wall, a couple riders come out from broken gates with white flags.

"Lord Wang Lang wishes to surrender!" one of the soldiers from the entourage state. His battered armor and dirtied face is indicative of how tired the other soldiers are in Hui Ji.
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>>33415152
obviously.
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>>33415119

Coward
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>>33415131
Our one defeat was not a matter of dice rolls, it came about from not defending the capital from unseen forces.
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You call for the soldiers to surrender their arms, and they do so. You move in the city with your soldiers, and begin to secure the city. You come to the governmental palace, where Wang Lang is awaiting for you with the seal of the city on hand.

"General, your prowess is unmatched and your heavenly presence must indicate that fate wants this city passed unto you. I surrender to your godlike might, and that of Governor Lu Bu's," Wang Lang states going to his knee. "I only ask that you allow me to keep Hui Ji, or to give me a proper rank within Lord Lu Bu's force."

What do you do? Do you trust Wang Lang enough to let him in your force?
>Execute him
>Exile him
>Accept him in to Lu Bu's force as a ranked official
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>>33415184

Also from assaulting a fortified position while outnumbered 2 to 1.

We didn't even a roll a dice for that because it was an obvious conclusion.
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>>33415193
>>Execute him
He would be cancer if we kept him alive. He had his chance to surrender.
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>>33415193
Execute him. He had his chance to surrender. His own stubborn pride brought him to this point.

We made a vow to take his head.
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>>33415193
>Exile him

We do not execute those who surrender but keeping him would be a serious mistake.
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>>33415193
>Exile him
His refusal to surrender led to the death of hundreds and destruction of infrastructure.
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>>33415193
>Execute him
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>>33415193
>Execute him
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>>33415193
execute him.
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>>33415193
>Exile him
Tell him if he had surrendered early on when it was clear they would lose eventually, to spare his people, we would accept him in our force as that would have shown him to be a wise ruler. Now we cannot accept as he cares little for his people.
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>>33415193
Do what will be best for the people and their hearts. No more death this day.
>Exile him
He's not worth the blood on our blade.
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>>33415193
>>Exile him

We CANNOT execute enemies who surrender.

Sets a bad precedent.
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>>33415193
>Exile him

He can have an ''accident'' perhaps Bandits or thieves?
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>>33415193

As long as we don't take this snake into our midst, I'm fine with either one.
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>>33415193
>accept him in to lu Bu's force as a ranked official.
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>>33415193
>>Exile him

We can't execute someone who just surrendered, do you people want no one to ever surrender to us again?
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>>33415193
>Exile him
He's not worth the bad rep to execute
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>>33415193
>>Exile him

>>33415294

Why?
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>>33415193
>>Exile him
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>>33415193
exile him
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Rolled 32

>>33415193
>>Accept him in to Lu Bu's force as a ranked official

Hes actually usable though if we keep him loyal.

Hell, we need decent administrators.
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>>33415331
>if we keep him loyal.
So, he's not useable
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>>33415193
>Exile him
He did surrender but it wouldn't be wise to keep him around.

We'd get a lot of bad rep for executing him
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>>33415193
>Exile him

"We gave you many chances to surrender and save the people from further harm, and yet you refused each and every time out of your own greed. The only reason why you keep your head this day is because I wish to prevent further blood being spilled on my new palace."
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>>33415193
>Exile him
We'd use him if he surrendered earlier. Can't really trust his judgement now.
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>>33415277
He had his chance to surrender before and keep his head, and he refused us. Now we must take his head.

>principles seeecei
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>>33415193
>PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO EXECUTE THE PERSON WHO BRINGS YUANJI INTO THIS WORLD
Accept his surrender and integrate him into our forces.
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>>33415193
>Exile him

Y'all needa realize that if we execute him, this will pretty much set an example and say to our future enemies that surrender won't be an option as we would just execute them in the end. This may just make future battles harder as the enemy generals would be encouraged to fight to the death.
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>>33415193
Exile him. His inability to surrender has cost his people a lot of suffering. Let him leave with what possessions he himself can carry and distribute the food he stored to the peasantry.
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>>33415374
>people don't want to execute him and prevent that abomination from being born

shit taste, waifu a shit, etc.
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>>33415193

I'm torn. If we exile him when he had so many opportunities to surrender before, others might call us naive or soft-hearted. It could also make Wang Lang an enemy in the future, though he won't be a dangerous one.

If we execute him, that may make enemies more reluctant to surrender in the future. Which could have rippling effect in our future conquests.

All things considered, I think being considered soft-hearted and naive is better than the alternative. We are only 20 so this "hit" to our reputation can be remedied and it may even be beneficial to us in the future.
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>>33415261
This. If he had surrendered he would have been worth taking a chance on, but he stubbornly refused. Executing him is tempting but isn't worth risking the possible backlash.

>>33415193
Exile him

Though we could always just give him to Chen Gong to deal with. He might think up a use for him.
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>>33415365
Seriously though, people are gonna think we're a biiiiiitch if we don't execute him. Sets a bad example. Future enemy commanders must realize that one chance to surrender is all they get.
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>>33415394

Cao Cao INVITES him to join him after he is historically defeated.

So yea, he'll be an enemy. That Cao Cao invites him is a sign that yes, he has worth.
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>>33415356
Seconding this.
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Guys, are you all a bunch of oathbreakers? We must take his head and present it to our lord!
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>>33415319
my reasoning is he surrendered and he is local.
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>all these executes
Waifufags are mad and trying to sabotage? I can't think of a good reason to execute, when he isn't worth the blow to our reputation. We don't want people to fight us to the death all the time.
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>>33415450
Moralfags gonna moralfag. This is exactly the situation with the guy badmouthing lu bu in front of us but they keep applying modern morality to it.
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>>33415461
He basically did. HIs forces were on the brink of collapse when he surrendered. He wouldn't have lived out the day.
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>>33415461

I voted exile, but execute is a legitimate option.

>Cao Cao maintained as a general rule that those who surrendered after being besieged were not pardoned

Not only were they besieged, they were about to be annihilated when they surrendered.
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>>33415450
>Implying we won't do that

we exile him & have him assassinated afterwards & take his head to Lu bu later.
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>>33415508

So you want to break our word to uphold our word.
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>>33415508
>>33415530

I LIKE IT.
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>>33415461
Some anons may fear that not executing him will make us look weak. Not to mention that its been stated multiple times before that he is a corrupt man
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>>33415530
worked for xuande
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>>33415468
It's not about being a moral fag though. It's about PR, pure and simple.

All three options have their perks and drawbacks. Keeping him is the most risky. Executing him is the least.
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>>33415530
When have any of the ideas in this thread made sense? All the preplanning at the beginning of this thread turned out to be so much intellectual masturbation.
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>>33415468
Less moralfaggotry and more 'trying not to be an asshat'. Honestly, if one of the other officers wish to end him for his shit, they can go right ahead. But as is, we made that call out in the middle of a battle.

Besides, this guy is responsible for the lost of thousands of lives because he can't surrender and we are having him leave with a satchel. If we are clever, the PEASANTRY could kill him.
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>>33415530
Not him, but yes, we Liu Bei now.
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>>33415544
If he's a corrupt man than he'll probably do more good for us on the enemy's side than on ours or dead.
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>>33415530
EXACTLY! we're not breaking it if no one knows what happened
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>>33415569
Fuck off shufag.
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Wang Lang has refused our previous offers of surrender, and if he is exiled there is a chance of him becoming a thorn in our side.
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>>33415568
Or we have "peasants" kill him.
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>>33415574

He indirectly weakened Cao Wei with a piece of terrible advice, but that wasn't until during Cao Rui's reign. So history isn't particularly relevant here
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>>33415574
With his reputation, and with his complete and utter defeat at our hands, that may not be likely to happen.
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>>33415568
I like the idea of asking the people of the city if they feel he should be pardoned. Make a spectacle of it. If the people are willing to forgive him then just exile him.
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>>33415588
Everyone at the front of our army heard us. Song Xian has definitely heard about our oath.
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Basically, there are no perks to keeping him alive except that we get to feel more like shufags. Killing him now demonstrates that ignoring our calls to surrender ends badly, and purges this snake.
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>>33415628
Fuck the people.
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I'm gonna say lop off his head.
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>>33415628

No, this isn't a democracy. We want to keep the people happy? Just give them food, security, and pardon for any who raised arms against us.
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>>33415193
>>Execute him
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>>33415630
I was referring to the assassination, besides if we placate Lu bu with a secret head it will make it seem like he is smarter than people think.
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Rolled 100

>>33415647

We show that there is always an option for surrender.

Unless you like every enemy fighting to the death.
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>>33415628
Yeah, seconding this.

Let the people handle it, it could even give us a good rep with the citizens.
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>>33415595
That too. Either way, one can kill a man without chopping off his head. Kill all respect, honor, fame and integrity and all you have in front of you is a simple monkey. Let him think death would have been a mercy.
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>>33415628
I like it. We plant people to yell for his execution in the crowd. Then we can execute him while somewhat absolving us of people thinking we'll never accept surrenders.
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Rolled 57

Execute
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>>33415684
I like every enemy surrendering before they've depleted their forces and destroyed their castle by fighting us. If they keep trying to surrender like this fucker, we gain no benefit whatsoever.
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Just asked my dad what we should do, and he immediately said that we had to execute him.
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>>33415647
Whoever said we were keeping him alive. We make a grand spectacle of his exile and release him into the wilderness with just the clothes on his back. After a day, we ride after and execute him away from prying eyes.
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>>33415708

No one cares about your dad unless he's Guo Jia or Jia Xu.
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>>33415708

And what does your mum say
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>>33415714
This gains us flat nothing, probably hurts our reputation with our troops, and makes sieges harder in the future.

About par for the course in terms of plans for this quest.
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>>33415708
My dad's Sima Yi and he said to kill the imbecile
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>>33415684
>We show that there is always an option for surrender.
Our calls for surrender and our treatment of the officers who accepted that surrender and were accommodated justly already give us that reputation.

Wang Lang wants to surrender after spurning out generous offers, on his terms on the precipice of annihilation. Fuck him, he gets nothing.

We pardon his men, we do not pardon him.
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Might want to have a Final Destination vote on this, Raian.
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>>33415738

My dad's Cao Zhen and he said Sima Yi a shit

He agreed that Wang Lang should be executed though
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>>33415734
It gains us a head which we can give to Lu bu in secret & it makes us look like a shufag.

I'd say that nets us a win.
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>>33415714
A day head start before you go monkey hunting?
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>>33415747
Yeah, for contentious votes like this that is best. Some may have changed their minds after the debates as well.
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>>33415738
Zhao, pls. you aren't even a glimmer in your dad's eye yet.
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>>33415729
Well, she's snoring, so I presume that means we should quit pussyfooting around and execute him already.
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>>33415765
>shufag
>a positive

fucking shufags and their insanity

>>33415778
your mom sounds pretty hardcore
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>>33415747

Raian doesn't do final destination votes. He also doesn't really do write-ins unless it's specified as an option.

He's probably finishing up writing the post now anyway.
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>>33415297
Now that I've seen the arguments, I think execution is the better option.
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How about we do some thing like, give him a "choice", but in front all of his soldiers.

We tell him, either he kills himself and we pardon all his men, or we let him live but we execute all of his soldiers.

So either he kills himself, or we let his soldier live anyway and we let his pissed off, betrayed soldiers kill him.
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You know what? I'm changing my vote from exile to execution. Agree that we will see to his family and ensure that they are well taken care of in these lands. Caring for his family is merciful enough while punishing him for needlessly sacrificing the lives of his men.
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i just want to finish this campaign and drink with song xian
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1. We already gave him chance to surrender, he is a huge dick opportunist

2. He repeatedly cower before our force and choose the coward option

3. He dare to bootlick us in front of our Generals

KILL HIM
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>>33415796
>MUH SHUFAG

sincerely fuckoff popular support is going to help us you goddamn faggot.
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>>33415817
the ride never ends, anon
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>>33415816
This is China not Sengoku Japan
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>>33415816
>>33415804
Changing to execution as well.
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>>33415817
I just want to finish this campaign and go back to fondling our kettle lovingly
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>>33415817
We can't forget our promise. The man deserves a drink.
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>>33415826

Addendum: One of Wang Lang's officer actually surrender to us and we received him

Also Taishi Chi, so killing this dick is logical
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>>33415830
>thinks keeping this shit alive will improve popular support

What drugs are you taking? They have to be super strong.
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>>33415826
we EXILE him then KILL him.

>We keep our word to Lu bu
>We ''keep'' our word to him
>We appear benevolent
>Wang lang doesn't live to fuck us over and reveal our tricks
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Rolled 71

Can Raian let us do a revote to make sure?
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>>33415816
>>33415840

Y'all should probably quote your original posts, that's how voting changes are done in most quests.

Not like any of this matters. The voting probably closed 20 matters. It's an useless argument.
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>>33415817
too bad we're going to be spending all of our time with the girl who permanently has a stick up her ass
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>>33415807
That's so dumb, this filth isn't worth one of his soldiers.
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>>33415836
China was bigger on familial bonds at this point in time than Japan was during the Sengoku era.
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>>33415867
What word? We asked him to surrender before he let his castle and troops be annihilated, not when he had functionally already lost.

Condoning this shit just weakens us in the future.
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Yeah, after seeing what you guys have to say about it, I'm starting to think that execution would be better as well.... switching my vote to execution, but we treat his soldiers and his family well.
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>>33415860
>Keeping this shit alive
>Not having him killed in secret

don't shove shit down my throat anon especially if its retarded.
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>>33415868
No, he's probably almost done writing a post where everyone tells us what a stupid thing we just did.
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>>33415886

Thats kinky
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>>33415899
>Thinks publicly exiling him isn't 'keeping him alive' in the view of the public
>thinks that's a good thing

you are grade a retarded, shufag.
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Rolled 68

I am >>33415277

I think i would like to execute as well.
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>>33415897
My original vote was
>>33415379

switching to execute though
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>>33415807
You know, this works better than my plan, and I was saying to exile him, then kill him after.
>>33415356 Here
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>>33415868

Fuck that, I don't care if we did a stupid thing or not. I just want to move on.

Wang Lang's only contribution to history is having a famous granddaughter.
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>>33415886
all i wanted to do was attend war councils, lead men into battle, and return covered in blood and bruises in both victory and defeat to drink and plot with my fellow generals and strategists
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>>33415919
how is it bad thing then complainfag?
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> Three Kingdoms Quest Part ⑨

You had one job anon
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>>33415952

I'm just going to early archive sessions from now on.
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>>33415948
If you can't be assed to read any of the dozens of posts about this subject above you, I can't be assed to repeat myself.
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>>33415879
Just for transparency

>>33415404 and >>33415816 where both me.
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>>33415952
>Zhu Xing invents a new dish that consists of cooked wheat dough in the form of long, slender, solid strings, and then proceeds to spill it.

laughingcaocao.webm
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Another fight with his room mate has probably ended this quest early.
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>>33415936
Too bad nobody else thinks it's a good idea..
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>>33415952
How was I supposed to know that it couldn't read "⑨"?
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>>33415971
and if you can't do anything but complain & Heckle why the fuck do keep posting?
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>>33415991

Why would you use ⑨ in the first place?
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>>33415991
Is this a rhetorical question?
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>>33415991

You fucking nineball.
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>>33415987
This campaign is taking way too long.
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>>33415991

kek
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(Sorry, had to talk as mediator and work things out with friend and his girlfriend for half an hour from last week's incident)

"I accept your seal of Hui Ji, but I refuse your enlistment to our ranks," you state firmly as you grab the seal with one hand. Wang Lang looks displeased for a moment, but quickly changes body language as to not offend you.

"You will be exiled from Yangzhou, but with all your possessions and family intact. If you so wish, our men will guard you along your travels back to the north and see you safely back to other lands."

It takes a few seconds for Wang Lang to reply, but he bows in acceptance and the guards move him out of the palace. All of the officials have fled and the place is deserted. You are surprised however to see one man standing in a bowed position at the main hallway to the side.

>Ask him who he is and why he's still here
>Drive him out and secure the palace
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Rolled 74

>>33416075
>>Ask him who he is and why he's still here
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>>33416075
>Ask him who he is and why he's still here
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>>33416075
>>Ask him who he is and why he's still here

Is it Yu Fan? Please accept him into our retinue
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>>33415193
>>33415236
>>33415237
>>33415261
>>33415272
>>33415277
>>33415285
>>33415297
>>33415303
>>33415320
>>33415323
>>33415351
>>33415356
>>33415357
>>33415379
>>33415387

And all the other Exile votes. You guys need to think a bit more.

In the previous thread, we swore to our ranked officers that we would take Wang Lang's head. For us to reverse our decision, one that had been made in front of every named general for that matter-- that's a moment of capricious indecision. If we did that, then our generals would start doubting our capacity for leadership.

If we took Wang Lang in, we'd have to worry about him plotting to betray us-- unless we go the Cao Cao route and shower him with honor and monies to make him happy.

Best option here is to:
>EXECUTE HIM
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>>33416075
>Ask him who he is and why he's still here
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>>33416075
>>Ask him who he is and why he's still here
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>>33416075

Who are you? do you have a death wish?
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>>33416075
>Ask him who he is and why he's still here
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>>33416107
I think people realized that afterwards. A lot of people changed their votes. But it was too late.
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>>33416075
ASK HIM WHO HE IS AND WHY HE'S STILL HERE
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>>33416131
It was always too late
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>>33416107
Everybody realized we should execute halfway through, but it was too late.
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>>33416131

Raians also abit inflexible but thems the breaks.
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>>33416075
>Ask him who he is and why he's still here

>>33416107
we'll have some men track him and finish him & his family off in the middle of nowhere.
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>>33416075
>Who are you and why are you still here
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>>33416153
>abit
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>>33416075
Ask him who he is and why he's still here. Also ask if it was frustrating watching this war after he advised Wang Lang to surrender.
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>>33416107
I'd rather have our soldiers lose some faith in us than have our enemies not surrender to us. If we win battles this one moment of being a fatuous lord will not make them insta-betray us.
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>>33416075
>>Ask him who he is and why he's still here
Sup homie?
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Was a stronger case not enough to beat the samefagging?
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>>33416075

You can probably start writing now
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>>33416131
It always irritates me to no end, especially when I get Slowpoke'd.

Again, I highly recommend that everybody read the Art of War and the Thirty-Six Strategems BEFORE posting in this thread. Half of the bad decisions comes from a lack of understanding 1st century Chinese military science and the other half from /tg/ herping-and-derping like a bunch of waifu-fags.
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>>33416169
Cao Cao wishes every enemy 'surrendered' to us like this assfuck did.
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>>33416154
No, the people who matter will think we killed him anyway. If we've exiled him just leave it at that.
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>>33416107
He wasn't worth it.
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>>33416183
Jesus fucking christ, shut the fuck up about those idiotic books. They're not some sort of revealed wisdom.
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>>33416075
>Ask him who he is and why he's still here

Also, Raian, during heated arguments where it's difficult to see what decision currently winning, it would be nice if you asked for a revote before putting pen to paper since some people may change their minds.
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>>33416199
how would they know? sure they will have suspicions but it could just as easily have been bandits or rogues after all these are dangerous times.
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>>33416219
>expecting raian to care

Oh man, you're new here.
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>>33416219

RAIAN PLS THIS
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>>33416219

The voting window is like 10 minutes and then QMs write. Most of the argument came after those 10 minutes.
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>>33416259

When was this stated?
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>>33416219
As somebody who voted exile, didn't change his mind and thinks all the people saying execute's argument was not sufficient . . .no. Exile had more votes and if it was the other way around and he asked for a revote you'd be mad about that. When your side is losing you don't become a whiny bitch for a recount to the Qm.

I didn't want to do waifu shit and instead bro it up with the peasantry. The waifufags won. I grit my teeth and accepted that. Accept that he got exiled.
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>>33416219
Yeah, Raian.. this would really make the whole experience a lot better. I understand it must be annoying to write something, then have to start over after seeing that everyone has changed their minds, but... you'd do that for us right?
Because you love us, right?
....right?
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>>33416219

Also, it's not like this was a major decision. We can't be wasting so much time when it's a weekly quest anyway.

>>33416271

The first thread I believe
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>>33416107
We didn't make an honor bound oath on our name and family that we would see his wickedness ended no matter the cost etc etc. We said we'd have his head on a pike in the heat of battle. That we didn't execute him after he surrendered doesn't mean we don't take our word seriously, it simply indicates we aren't unreasonable and dislike executing enemies that surrender to us.

That said I voted for execution anyway since the guy was a douche.
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>>33416075

>Ask him who he is and why he's still here
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>>33416280

Fuck that, that'll grind the quest down to a fucking halt.
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>>33416280

I keep imagining him doing that cao cao laugh to us
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>>33416306
...Fair enough..
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>>33416315
The only joy he knows is watching us fail.
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>>33416283
What this guy said
Wang Lang got blown the fuck out. The fucker's finished regardless of whether we exile him or execute him unless he pull a post-Chang an on us
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We could always sic Song Xian on him and go drinking later.
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>>33416341

Read the later part of Wang Lang's life after he gets kicked out.
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>>33416283
I thought the first thread indicated he'd post every 30 minutes? Even with people changing their mind I'm fairly sure exile won votes anyway. Wanting a revote is just sour grapes. All we can do is accept the QMs decision and adjust how we vote as the quest goes on.
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>>33416347
Ah, that's right, we made sure we don't have to drink with that guy.
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>>33416279
I don't really care if this asshole lived or died, but it was clear that many people were changing their minds during the discussion.

A simple consensus check really wouldn't hurt to have.
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>>33416363
It'd make the shufags cry, and we can't have that.
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>>33416349
I would really rather not use metaknowledge
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It feels like this is many of your first quests or something. The standard voting window is 5-15 minutes for most quests.

QMs need time to write too. They can't check over their shoulders every second and rewrite everything instantly.

Honestly, final destination should only be used for Critical Fucking Decisions, and this probably wasn't one of them given the tone of Raian's post. Not to mention that final destination can be samefagged easily as well.

This isn't unique to Three Kingdoms Quest either.
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>>33416075
>>Ask him who he is and why he's still here
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>>33416385
>samefagged easily as well.
How? Alt+0173 doesn't work anymore.
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You move to the man and demand to know who he is.

"The other officials have fled, but you stand here as if defiant. Tell me your name and reason for keeping yourself here."

The man keeps his bowed position, though he keeps himself poised firm and upright without hesitation.

"I am Yu Fan, styled Zhongxiang. It seems I served an improper lord who would consort to allying himself with bandits. I advised Lord Wang Lang to surrender to avoid this inevitable loss, but alas, I was not listened to. Despite my mistakes, I am honor-bound to keep my duty to the end and keep my service to this city."

You rub your chin, and question the man further.

"I have heard rumors of your talent and have also heard of the incident in regards to Wang Lang. What would you think of serving Lord Lu Bu?"

"If that is asked of me, I will do it. I am uncertain yet however that Lord Lu Bu will bring peace to the Southlands. He acted as a common bandits long before, and it is hard for a man to change his ways."

You remain silent for a few seconds, contemplating the situation. He seems an upright and loyal man, but he just spoke words that could have angered Lu Bu and it would come to no surprise if others would have wanted him executed.

>Hire him in to the force as an official
>Dismiss him
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>>33416105
If it isn't we absolutely need to hunt that man down and recruit him.
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>>33416418
>>Hire him in to the force as an official
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>>33416418
>>Hire him in to the force as an official

Can we hire him into our own retinue and not with Lu Bu?

He won't last a day if he's with Lu Bu all the time.
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>>33416418
>>Hire him in to the force as an official
There's really no chance of us dismissing him.
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>>33416418
>Hire him in to the force as an official
This is a guy we need to interact with frequently, keep him under our wing instead of Lu Bu's
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>>33416418
>>Hire him in to the force as an official

YUSH. YU FAN GET.

*ahem* Instate him as Major-domo or head advisor for this garrison until it can be formalized later.
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>>33416418
>>33416437
>>33416444

Please, Raian. We need to keep him with us and not Lu Bu. Mention something about how he can serve under us directly and that we appreciate honest advice.
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>>33416418
Hire him into our personal retinue and praise his candor though warn against speaking to openly with lord Lu Bu.
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>>33416418
>>Hire him in to the force as an official

"We have a need for good men who are unafraid to speak their minds. You are a good man Yu Fan. And with enough surrounding him, I am sure even Lord Lu Bu can change."
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>>33416418
>Hire him in to the force as an official
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>>33416418
>Hire him in to the force as an official
Tell him he is an honest man and that we would be happy to have him serve our cause, but warn him not to say such things about Lu Bu publically
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>>33416466
>I am sure even Lord Lu Bu can change."

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't say this. It implies that we agree that Lord Lu Bu has been acting like a common bandit.
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>>33416418
>Hire him in to the force as an official
Have we acted like a common bandit?
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>>33416418

You can see it for yourself Yu Fan, I am in dire need of administrator and strategist as you may expect in a force led by Lord Lu Bu

Worry not for injustice Yu Fan, for I shall uphold it by myself, with this blade I swore it
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>>33416418
>>Hire him in to the force as an official
He can be our guy and then soon we can be our own faction.
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>>33416418
We need people who will share their opinions in spite of Lu Bu's wrath, while at the same time not spreading treasonous thoughts. He isn't defaming Lu Bu, he just doesn't know if he's the right horse to bet on. I say we show him that you always bet on Red Hare.
>HIRE HIM!
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>>33416486
Of course it does. Compared to glorious Liu Bei, Lu Bu is but a savage.
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>>33416418
>Hire him in to the force as an official

Hire him into our personal retinue, and don't send him off to meet Lu Bu the "Bandit"
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>>33416418

>Hire him in to the force as an official-- under Zhu Xin.
To serve us, Zhu Xin, is to serve Lu Bu. And by this extension, we can keep Yu Fan in our retinue and satisfy his personal desire to avoid being in Lu Bu's derpy presence.
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>>33416488
well we did loot that one town at the beginning of the campaign.
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>>33416497
>this is what shufags actually believe
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>>33416418
>>Hire him in to the force as an official

This guy sounds very competent, doubting someone is a stupid reason to deny a good official for.

If he doesn't completely believe in us yet, we'll show him that we're worth believing in. Or something. Idunno. still seems like he's too good to pass up.
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>>33416515
That's just the guy screaming about Shufags false flagging.
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Reminder to not execute Yu Fan if he drops truth bombs on us when we do stupid things.

Sun Quan almost killed Yu Fan in the middle of a banquet because he was so angry at his insults. Sun Quan had to create a policy to avoid any orders given while he was drunk because of Yu Fan.
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>>33416418
her him in to the force as an official.

I don't know who this guy is, but if he's the strategist type and has that type of mouth, its better we get him while Lu Bu gets Chen Gong.
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>>33416461
>>33416480

This and this.
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>>33416418
We are recruiting the snarkiest strategist. Even if he's just to be the sassy black woman of our war council.
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>>33416532
Yu Fan sounds like a swell guy to have at parties.
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"Lord Lu Bu is bold and fierce in all things, and that fierceness can sometimes lead to rash action. However he is an unequaled hero of our age and with the aid of able supporters he can bring peace to this land. Aide me Zhongxiang so that we might guide our lord and the lands he protects towards a brighter future."
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>>33416558
>>33412935

Sassy as fuck

Despite being humiliated by Yu Fan during his stay in Wu, Yu Jin spoke highly of Yu Fan when he returned to Wei. Cao Pi even prepared a seat for Yu Fan even though he knew that it would probably remain permanently unoccupied.
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You guys realize we're still not going to get stat ups this thread, right?
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>>33416619
No anon plz. I can't bear the thought.
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>>33412935
toplel
This fucker's not allowed within 10 ft of Lu Bu
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>>33416619
Yeah, we are, unless something's gone terribly wrong on Lu Bu's end.
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>>33416619

Fuck stat ups, we are getting Yu Fan
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>>33416619
At this point, it's been 4 goddamn threads since we last saw a right propa stat-up.

Might as well just sigh and resign ourselves to getting crafting skillups like in FFXI, 0.1 to 0.2 points per hour.
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>>33416619
It's the end of the campaign, I see no reason why we won't.
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>>33416645
>over a month realtime
>no stat progression at all

FFXI looks generous compared to this.
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>>33416642

But that's a separate campaign. Our campaign is already finished.

If Lu Bu, Cheng Gong, and Taishi Ci can't take out Yan Baihu, then we are going to be in some serious trouble.
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>>33416643
Yu fan is +35 to Pol. Best stat up to date.
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>>33416672
Window boy can keep him company
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>>33416670
Hell they may already be done.
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>>33416666

And this look generous compared to Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI.
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>>33416670
The WAR phase of the campaign arc is over.

Now comes the FarmVille arc; where we have to make nice, socialize, and consolidate our base of power so we don't get a peasant rebellion, assassination attempts, and the Sun family coming in and saying "Dafuq?" and dropping Cheng Pu on us for a rematch for the shit we dealt with in Thread #1.
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>>33416672
>>33416692

I hope we can keep Gao Shun in our personal retinue.

Zhang Liao's too high ranked and he's probably the next in line for a separate command.

I think we impressed Gao Shun with our execution of the soldier and upholding of military law. He would be a very good second-in-command and would probably mesh okay with Yu Fan.
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>>33416705
I think governance and war are separate campaign types. Speaking of we need to spend a few actions just governing the shit out of our new lands.
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>>33416705

The campaign is over, now it's governing and building.

We are going to personally duel Cheng Pu and take his head.

I hope he remembers the minor captain who he insulted.

Also that minor Sun general that we attacked in the first thread.
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Hey, are there any demons in China right now? Hunting some down might get us in good with the populace.
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>>33416730

> Yu Fan and Gao Shun Snarky duo

> Yeah Zhu Xing do that, it wont backfire on us for sure this time eh? what could POSSIBLY go WRONG?
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>>33416731
>governing the shit
Is this the three kingdoms version of liberating the shit out of something?
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>>33416730
I hope we can get on friendly terms with both Gao Shun and Zhang Liao even if Zhang Liao is more likely to become independent. Being on good terms with Song Xian is a good idea too but that goes for all generals that we'll be working with.
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>>33416749
Lu Bu
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>>33416749
No, we need to spend time at the castle to improve our satisfaction and get more fans.
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>>33416749
I think there's a Taoist Sorcerer shitting all over Cao Cao right now
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>>33416753
Replace bombs with paperwork and you've got the idea.
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>>33416780

>Yo Yu Fan, handle this shit while I go hunting for kettles
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>>33416772
Rance would laugh so hard at our attempts to woo Lingqi
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>>33416748
>Also that minor Sun general that we attacked in the first thread.
... that guy was Cheng Pu.
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>>33416731
I agree, but watch waifufags pick the Lingqi option every time instead.

What's that? There won't be one, you said?

They'll MAKE ONE.
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>>33416801
First thing you do when you get a landed title is marry and start working on heirs.

It's like you don't even ck2.
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>>33416779

Dem Zuo Ci

> You killed my clones?
> Guess what? MORE CLONES
> EAT CRANE SHIT MENGDE
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"Then we will make use of your talents. See for yourself how far Lord Lu Bu can take us, and the changes he can bring. The other generals and I here have followed him for good reason. See to it that you continue to allow the Southlands to prosper under your care, and I ask that you act as my personal adviser for the future."

"As you command."

With Yu Fan joining the force, the rest of the days is spent keeping Hui Ji orderly and the populace content. Yu Fan does a good job of advising you on what policies to enact and how to keep the people happy, though his strict nature and straight arrow attitude turns off some of the other officials that have served Lu Bu since his capture of Jian Ye. A couple forces are still sent to keep the peace and take control of the remaining Southlands.

You hear news that Lu Bu has defeated Yan Baihu with resounding results. Taishi Ci managed to slay Yan Baihu's brother, Yan Yu in a duel, and during one charge, the Bandit King was personally killed by Lu Bu. With their leaders dead, the disorderly Shanyue were quickly defeated and decimated by Lu Bu's army. Chen Gong is said to have kept Lu Bu from pillaging and kept the people placated, creating strong unified territory on the eastern front. However, with still many different Shanyue tribes present, the campaign will take a few more months.

In the north, Cao Cao defeats Li Jue and Guo Si who were feuding and has taken control of the Emperor. He has moved the Emperor and the capital to Xuchang and has solidified his position. Yuan Shao defeats Gongsun Zan and rives him back further north, and it is only a matter of time before Yuan Shao takes Hebei.

With the southern campaign over, strong forces begin to rise. Lu Bu in the south has no doubt caught the attention of the other lords.

(Lead +7, War +2, Int +2, Pol +3, Cha +2)
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>>33416779
Oh yeah, that reminds me, Empress Himiko of Wa develops a crush on Cao Cao sometime soon. We should build up Zhu Yang's charisma and ambition to make him able to woo her so we can get Wa's resources and harassment on Wei territory.
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>>33416759

Am I the only one who thinks Song Xian will be a complete non-entity in the near future?

We will be recruiting so many generals that we'll only be able to focus on select few. Song Xian's not high on my priority list honestly.

As long as he feels neutral or higher, I'm down. Just don't want to make enemies.

>>33416799

Wrong

>You managed to wound Sun Jian's officer, Zu Mao before I saved your arse. Lu Bu took notice, and now you're Captain.”
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>>33416826
>War +2
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh man
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>>33416801
We need to petition Chen Gong to give Linqi a position far away so we have to focus on work instead of trying to woo her. "Please I won't get any work done otherwise! It's a sickness! I can't help it... whenever she's around I find myself compelled as if by some outside force to act like an idiot and try to impress her instead of doing something important."
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>>33416826

> War +2

Suffering
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>>33416826
Winter comes and you order your soldiers and generals to rest. Chen Gong sends you a letter, informing you that you need to return to Jian Ye soon, though he does not tell you why. He asks that you leave half your soldiers to guard and govern the area, and the other half back to Jian Ye by Spring time.

You have some time before you depart Hui Ji back to Jian Ye. Who do you leave to the guard the area and keep the peace, what do you spend the rest of the time doing?

>choose which officers stay and which go back with you

>spend the time training (choose stat)
>throw a celebratory feast for the officers
>spend the time focusing on governmental affairs
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>>33416838
>>33416845

We're nearing the 100 cap anyways. We're already in the top 10th percentile of warriors anyways.

It's gonna be harder to cap WAR from this point forwards, I think.
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>>33416847

Gao Shun and Yu Fan will govern justly. Yu Fan will also be murdered if he comes back with us, please don't bring him back.

Lingqi, Song Xian, and Zhang Liao will come back with us.

>>33416847
>throw a celebratory feast for the officers

Song Xian, now we can party.
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>>33416847
We own some one a drink. [Forgot their name.]
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>>33416857
We have 87 war now, anon. 5 threads of battles, over a month, and we have 87 war.
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>>33416847

Gao Shun Song Xian stays

Linqi Zhang Liao return with us

> DRINK WITH SONG XIAN, WE PROMISED IT
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>>33416861
I second this
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>>33416847
Backing this option >>33416861

Song Xian can finally have his goddamn drink with us.
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>>33416847
>>throw a celebratory feast for the officers
>Drink with Song Xian]
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>>33416847
>>33416861

Supporting
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>>33416847
Gao Shun and Yu Fan to stay.

>spend the time focusing on governmental affairs
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>>33416847
>>Throw a celebratory feast for the officers
We promised Song Xian yo. Besides all of our officers have done a really good job this battle helping us not fuck up.
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>>33416867

Oh Yu Fan stays ofc, dont EVEN GET HIM NEAR LU BU
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>>33416847
>Leave at Hui Ji: Gao Shun, Yu Fan
>Go with us: Lu Lingqi, Zhang Liao, Song Xian

>throw a celebratory feast for the officers
Time to feast and take that drink with Song Xian
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>>33416847
>throw a celebratory feast for the officers

We promised we'd drink with Song Xian.
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>>33416847
>>spend the time training (choose stat)
War

Jesus fuck, +2 is horrible.
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>>33416842
>>33416847

WE CAN DO IT NOW.
WE DUMP LINGQI HERE FOR GOOD AND KEEP HER FROM HAVING THE WAIFUFAGS RUIN EVERYTHING.

THIS IS OUR CHANCE.

Song Xian and Lingqi stay, train INT, and throw a feast and fINALLY DRINK WITH OUR NIGGA SONG XIAN.
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>>33416892
dude, we're near max on it as it is. if anything, the +2 is being generous.

besides, the lead bonus is far more important if we're going to be an effective general.
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>>33416892

We are 90+ WAR now, it would rise bit by bit with time as we battle more shit

If we are going to train stat, it should be LEA, INT or CHA
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>>33416911
87 is not 90+

We're still scrub tier.
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>>33416847
>>choose which officers stay and which go back with you

Lu Linqui and Zhang Liao come with us.

Yu Fan, Song Xian and Gao Shun stay.

>>throw a celebratory feast for the officers
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>Ignoring the +7 Lead we got
We're not going to be sieging castles and taking on armies by ourselves, we're not going to be Zhang Liao at Hefei every battle, we're only 21 fucking years old and one of the strongest warriors in the realm as is. Strong leadership will stop pesky revolts and keep the men in line and in high spirits. It's very relevant to our position as a general.
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>>33416924

War: 87 + 4 = 91

Fuck you
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>>33416847
>>Throw a celebratory feast for the officers.
Time to break out the kettle. We haven't used the kettle for a while now.
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>>33416842
I agree, we should do this word for word. Lingqi has already proven herself greatly in this campaign, it is time for her to return to her father's side.
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>>33416892
>>33416866
>>33416845

We are 21 years old with 87 natural WAR. 91 with our equipment.

That's higher than literally all of Cao Cao's general except Zhang Liao.

Xiahou Yuan, Xiahou Dun, Zheng He, Xu Huang, Cao Ren, Cao Hong, Yu Jin, Yue Jin are all weaker than us after our equipment.
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>>33416847
>>throw a celebratory feast for the officers

WE PROMISED SONG XIAN A DRINK!
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>>33416847
Celebratory feast (like everyone else has said we promised Song Xian so lets make good on it).

>>33416886
YEP. Let's not get our new adviser into death's easy reach.

>>33416889
This but leave behind Song Xian with Gao Shun. Two generals for defense and two back home (well three if you include us).
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>>33416847
It's time to finally fucking dump Lingqi.

>Stay: Gao Shun, Lu Lingqi, Yu Fan
>Return: Zhang Liao, Song Xian

>throw a celebratory feast for the officers
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>>33416943
>implying they don't get equipment bonuses.

Theres will be higher, if anything.
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>>33416955
>Stay:Lu Lingqi
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>>33416955
>Not bringing Linqui see her father.

You trying to get us fucked over?
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>>33416968
He wants to be forever alone, just like irl.
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>>33416957

Exactly, especially if climb higher we could potentially get god-tier equipment like GREEN DRAGON CRESCENT BLADE

CLEAVE AND SMITE
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>>33416892
No, it isn't. overchi awful.
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Gao Shun and Yu Fan confirmed for staying. Do people want Song Xian to stay? Lingqi can stay, but I sincerely doubt the majority want that.
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>>33416957

So they are on par with us. All these veteran, renowned generals. On par with a 21 year old who's fought in 3-4 campaigns.

>>33416968

Anti-waifuism gone full retard. I don't care about waifus, but not bringing Lingqi back to her father is a stupid move.
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>>33416955
How about we dump her with Lu Bu?
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>>33416988
yeah me neither but this is full retard
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>>33416982

I'm going to go with No. Remember Song Xian isn't upstanding, he's going to conflict with Gao Shun and Yu Fan.
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>>33416982
Let's bring Song Xian and Linqi.
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>>33416847
>Yu Fan and Guo San stay
>Song Xian, Lu Lingqi, and Zhang Liao go
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And as stated, Lu Bu still needs to pacify the Shanyue some more. Lu Bu will not be at Jian Ye.
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>>33416982

No to Song Xiang
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>>33416982

Song Xian Linqi come with us
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>>33416982
No just those two. Song Xian will clash too much with the others.
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>>33416982

No, don't let him stay. Bring him with us.
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>mfw we get rectum ravaged by a triple combo of Guo Jia, Jia Xu and Zhuge Liang
>but at least we have 90+ war and married lingqi
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>>33416982
I think we need to leave at least one more general behind and since Lu Bu prob- >>33417012

Leave Linqi behind.
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>>33416982
Song Xian and Lingqi come with us.
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>>33417012
Even so I am comfortable with >>33417010 these choices
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>>33416982
People are just butt hurt about Linqi.

I say take her, she's not as important as the our officers but she is a potential baby maker which means extra lives. Also our character is in his early 20's now and we haven't made progress on courting any other women.

Song Xian is a bad match for Gao Shun and Yu fan in my opinion so I vote he comes with us.
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>>33416982
We bring Song Xian with us and definitely Lingqi, not for waifu reasons mind you, but because Lu Bu will impale us with his spear once he learns we left his daughter behind.
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>>33416982

Leave song xian.

Gao shun will need a sub commander.
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>>33417012
>Lu Bu will not be at Jian Ye.

warning bells anyone?
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>>33416847
>feast with officers
>have that drink with Song Xian like we promised
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>>33416990
I'd rather we go wtih this.
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>>33417028

>Implying Zhuge Liang would work with Guo Jia and Jia Xu
>Implying we won't accidentally roll terribly in diplomacy roll and Lu Bu won't cleave Zhuge Liang in half
>Implying we won't pick up Zhuge's wife as our concubine
>Implying we won't steal his kettle
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>>33417012

Then why not send Linqi as reinforcements for Lord Lu Bu?
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>>33417068
>Kettle has +50 to Int
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>>33417041

What warning bells? Explain.
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>>33417087

Maybe Lu Bu will come to Hui Ji

topkek
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>>33417074

So we bring her with us first.
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Guys wait we have ONE MORE GENERAL!

Who's the guy who said he'd serve us after we beat Wang Lang? Have him stay behind with Gao Shun.
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>>33417068
>>Implying we won't accidentally roll terribly in diplomacy roll and Lu Bu won't cleave Zhuge Liang in half
>>Implying we won't pick up Zhuge's wife as our concubine

Very ok with these two outcomes. Yueying could make us some Juggernauts.
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>>33417068
I'm getting tired of the relationship with lingqi basically not advancing at all, even now that we've put turns into it. I might give her one more shot, but after that I'll just stop caring.
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>>33417104

Fa Neng rite?
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>>33417104
YES GENIUS.
how could we have forgotten?!

This, definitely this.
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>>33417087
Lu bu isn't at Jian Ye, yet Chang gong is I smell a plot.
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>>33417108
>wanting a landwhale as a concubine
ISHYGDDT
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>>33417104

Oh fuck, Fan Neng.

Yeah, he stays by default. He's a native Southlander anyway.

Now I feel fucking guilty.
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>>33417104

Anon, you are a smart man.

Fan neng will work well with yu fan. Together, they'll keep the peace.
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>>33416982
Bring them.

Song's gonna do whatever we tell him to do-- within reason, now that we're on a better relationship level with him.

Lingqi needs to go where her father could need her. Filial piety and respect, yo.

>Anti-waifuism gone full retard. I don't care about waifus, but not bringing Lingqi back to her father is a stupid move.

Say Lu Bu is dying/mortally wounded and wants to see everyone he loves and/or holds dear to his heart. Nobody would want to suffer a curse if his dying wish wasn't carried out.
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>>33417104
Oh, yeah. He stays.
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>>33417110
Raian does seem to be firmly in the anti-lingqi camp.
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>>33417104
>>33417134

Yup, he seemed like a honorable type. Gao Shun in charge of military, Yu Fan in charge of domestic policies, and Fan Neng as Gao's deputy.
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>>33417104
OH FUCK THIS!
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>>33417110
I'm not one of the guys gunning for her with everything, but we /have/ made progress with her. Y'all are just impatient as shit. Lead and Govern when needed then take some time to woo when things aren't as pressing. We haven't even known her for a year yet and everyone wants to be at the lovey dovey stage.
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>>33417110
There's no reason not to bring her though, Jian Ye is closer to inevitable battle with Sun Ce/Yuan Shu and we could use good fighting officers.
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>>33417110
Every conversation except the last one has made progress.
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>>33416982
Bring Song Xian with us.
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I wonder if He Qi is recruitable.

The generals that stay behind should keep a look out for men of talent.
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>>33417147

Don't put words in his mouth. He elevated our relationship status with Lingqi despite us spaghetting all over the place all the time.

We have some impatient players in this quest.
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>>33417152
Seconded.
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>>33417158
>not even that good a friend-zoned
>progress

A year without even a hint of romantic attraction is a bad sign.
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>>33417104
Oh yeah, Fan Neng!
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>>33417147
Source Citation: Thread #2 where he dropped Cai Wenji in our laps.

Truth be told, Wenji would've been a great waifu. But nooooo, everybody wants Lingqi as 1st Wife instead of 2nd Wife because of Prestige stuff.

It's like playing Crusader Kings II with a bunch of full-on autists.
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>>33417166

Are you the other He Qi bro from the last thread? Because I'm with you.
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>>33417169
>one upgrade to relationship
>have been trying to get her attention for 9 threads

I can tell where this is going.
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So here's some people in RTKXI with the same stats as us.

LDR: Sun Shang Xiang, Bao Sanniang, Cao Rui,
WAR: Zhang Bao (Son of Zhang Fei), Deng Ai, Dong Zhuo
INT: Pang De, Yuan Shao, Gongsun Zan
POL: Zu Mao
CHR: Xu Zhu
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>>33417186

Xiong di.

We're leaving the territory for quite some time so I was hoping we could nab him.
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>>33417189
>LDR: Sun Shang Xiang, Bao Sanniang,

So we need to commit suicide is what you're saying?
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>>33417189
Wow, we're ONLY on par with one of the most ridiculously competent and successful Wei generals in terms of War?
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>>33417182
> Cai Wenji

she's in the Wei camp now bro, though I'm not adversed Ravaging just about every waifuable character because concubines by right of conquest are a thing
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>>33417207

IT gets worse.

We have the same combat ability as the fat fuck dongs.
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>>33417186

Neutral-Acquainted-Friendly

Also, I maintain that 9 threads is nothing.

>>33417189

It's almost like you cherry picked the worst possible matches for us. Except for Deng Ai and Pang De, they are cool.
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>>33417174
Hey, at least we're faring better then Zhou Xin.
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>>33417189
>>33417207
Well, those two ladies got trained by the best generals in their respective courts.

We're doing this thing called "on the job training".
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>>33417152
Sounds good to me.

>>33417166
I agree with looking for men of talent to bolster our ranks.
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>>33417216
Yeah, sudoku is the only answer.
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>>33417182
You don't marry someone when you just met them that day!
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>>33417219
top kek
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>>33417218
Feel free to maintain whatever you like. Over here in reality, 9 threads over the course of 2 RL months and 4? years in-game is a lot.
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>>33417213
That's not going to happen until 196 AD, when Cao Cao kicks the shit out of Li Jue and Guo Si before bringing the Han Court to Xu Chang.

We still got 4 years to reclaim Chang An before Cao Cao does.
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You throw a feast before you depart to Jian Ye, deciding to take Lingqi, Zhang Liao, Song Xian, and with you while Yu Fan remains to govern the lands and Gao Shun and Fan Neng to safeguard from rebels and bandits. Warm fires are placed in the hallway of the governmental palace, and a large table is of roasting pig and dumplings are placed. The other officers arrive, and seat themselves. You have the option to give praises and make someone the honored guest for the occasion.

>choose someone to be the MVP
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>>33417258
>Zhang Liao
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>>33417216
He was kinda badass in Ravages, though it was more of a "Sheeit, he's tyrannical" sort of badass.
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>>33417189

> CHR: Xu Zhu
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>>33417258

Gao shun.

His charges and assaults have been the keystone in our campaign.
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>>33417258
Gao Shun.

He's a super-god-tier bro for that balls to the wall crazy pincer cavalry maneuver during the river crossing battle.
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>>33417258
>Gao Shun

Not even letting this be a fight.
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>>33417258

Gao SHun
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>>33417254
Anon it's already happened >>33416826


>In the north, Cao Cao defeats Li Jue and Guo Si who were feuding and has taken control of the Emperor. He has moved the Emperor and the capital to Xuchang and has solidified his position. Yuan Shao defeats Gongsun Zan and rives him back further north, and it is only a matter of time before Yuan Shao takes Hebei.
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How can Gao Shun be the honored guest for the occasion if he's not even there.
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>>33417258

Gao Shun

Though Zhang Liao gets a very strong honorable mention
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>>33417258
Hmm I'm uncertain on who the MVP should be. Linqi does deserve praise but she wasn't MVP. That's probably between Gao Shun and Zhang Liao
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>>33417258
Gao Shun.
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>>33417258
>>Gao Shun or Zhang Liao
These guys have been awesome this entire campaign.
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>>33417258
>Everyone
>Gao shun if I have to be specific
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>>33417258
Gao Shun
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>>33417307
How can we even be hosting the feast if we aren't there?
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>>33417307
>>33417311

Wait shit. If we can't pick someone who's not here. Then I default to Zhang Liao, otherwise Gao Shun is the true MVP.
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>>33417258

Gao shun.

But make sure to praise everyone in turn.

Everyone has played critical roles in this campaign.

Fa neng for his good advice, lingqi for her heroism in the river crossing battle, song xian for holding the line in the face of overwhelming odds, zhang liao for leading the assaults on the walls.

All have made great contributions, without them, our losses would have been heavy.
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>>33417334
>>33417331
This is the feast in Huiji, not Jianye.
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>>33417258
Gao Shun, no contest.

DON'T FORGET THE DRINK WITH SONG XIAN.
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>>33417334
We're throwing the party before we leave so Gao Shun will be there.
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>>33417306

Things are moving much quicker than in real life and I'm not sure why. Isn't 193? Gongsun Zan's not supposed to die for another six years.
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>>33417307
>>33417334

Ugh, misread things terribly.

>You throw a feast before you depart to Jian Ye

So Gao Shun still, not Zhang Liao
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Rolled 83

>>33417337
Thiiiiis
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>>33417337
This. Absolutely give everyone their due praise.
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>>33417337
Yeah this guy has it. We praise everyone but Gao Shun is MVP
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>>33417258
Gao Shun. Everybody deserves praise for their efforts though, see >>33417337


Make sure we have that drink with Song Xian.
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>>33417357

Gongsung Zan is still hanging in there.

>Yuan Shao defeats Gongsun Zan and rives him back further north, and it is only a matter of time before Yuan Shao takes Hebei.

Though not for long, so you are right.
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>>33417337
THIS THIS THIS!
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>>33417357
>I'm not sure why
Raian wants us to fight big boys right now instead of giving us time to consolidate our power.
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>>33417357
We need an update on Xu. Who has it, Cao Cao, Liu Bei, or Tao Qian?
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>>33417393
Tao Qian before the war with Wang Lang. Cao Cao and Liu Bei split Xu at that time.
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>>33417306
>>33417357
Fuck, we fucked with the timeline and the True History route is no more.

IF Route confirmed. Hold on to your butts, boys, 'cause it's going to hurt when Cao Cao decides to sail south and kick our shit.

... fuck, Wu's Navy was the only reason why Cao Cao's forces never made it across the Yangtze River.

Welp, we've screwed the pooch. I'm thinking we should've stayed in Xuchang back in one of the earlier threads instead of coming down to the Southlands.
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>>33417382

I'm fairly sure the "big boy" is going to be Yuan Shao.

Cao Cao's not going to focus on Wu-Bu because of Yuan Shao and Northern Plains. Besides, there's Zhang Xiu and other distractions to deal with.

Yuan Shu might or might not have the imperial seal, but he's a danger and a neighbor. He also has the Sun Clan.

Liu Biao and Jing province is our ally so we do have a fairly strong ally and connection to Imperial Courts right now.

>>33417393

Tao Qian is dead, Cao Cao and Liu Bei had split it when we left for the South.
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>>33417393
Can anyone update that map we had before, with all the different regions filled in to indicate who was in control of them?
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>>33417413

I don't think so. We just need to keep the Liu Clan as our allies and make sure they don't surrender to Cao Cao. This should be easier since their allies control Wu and not their blood enemies.

If we can absorb Yuan Shu's land, then we should be a match for Cao Cao. Particularly since Cao Cao is still outnumbered by Yuan Shao at this time.

Ma Teng might also be a strong, but distant ally.
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Hey, when we ask Song Xiang about that drink, we should go, "I know I said we'd do this when we had that filth's head, though I hope you'll forgive me, hahaha." Might show him that we do consider him some.
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>>33417457
Ma Teng might still die just like in True History if the whole plot to assassinate Cao Cao via poison delivered by the Court Physician fails.

Good lord, trying to plan a few moves ahead like in chess is giving me a headache.
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So I brought this up in the last thread but what are we going to use for our style name? We can name ourselves, but we can also just leave it to one of our elders.

You think Lu Bu will give us a cool style name?
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