You have accomplished many things since you have arrived, and as your workers piece together your space pod and shuttles you anticipate you will have much more to do beyond this planet as well. Coil has ensured the Taidarens performed their task properly, and you must admit you are impressed by their nimbleness in deconstructing the cloaking field for your thinkers to analyze. Your workers have finished their repairs of the hive and have returned to their construction duties, finishing the hangar bay expansion and making more progress on the twisting tunnels beneath the surface.With the twins finished with their explanation of the stealth device you can use the stealth projector from the Angel and equipped it to your pod or shuttles as you see fit, although your own versions would be grown into them, this should offer an efficient method of stealth for now.Theseus has made good headway in repairing the Clarke, and has shown you many of the complex inner workings of human communication systems.Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone
>>33385087>Current armory41 Thorn Launchers2 Thorn Cannons23 Sting Casters1 Rotary Stinger3 Fire Sprays1 Plasma Spray>Current resource reservesNutrients: 2194Metals: 2248>Hive population and upkeep cost Queen – 5Worker (100) – 200Warrior (25) – 100Thinker (48) – 144Speaker – 3Digger (10) – 40Refinery (2) – 14Sniffer (2) – 8Wasp (18) – 90Antenna (3) – 9Haz-mat Workers (20) – 80Shock Troops (3) – 33Excavator (4) – 76Colossus (2) – 30Nutrient costs: 1112>IncomeNutrients: 1050Net: -60Hive Structure>Reservoir>General storage>Food storage>Advanced Laboratory>Infrastructure>Hangar facilities: Room for 40 Aero Drones and 20 Shuttles>Mine: +250 M per day (+25 M per digger)>Algae Farm: +1000 N per day, 10 Workers (1 worker per 100N)>Clarke Research Outpost>Hel’s Angel Prison OutpostCurrent Construction Projects10 Algae Farms (+1000N, 10 workers)Finished Construction>Hangar Expansion - +20 aero +10 shuttles. 25N>Labyrinth – a complex network of tunnels and dead ends crisscrossing between your hive and outposts, providing your drones with safe, quick, and reliable transit between them while confusing and defending against enemy intruders.New Construction Options>Algae Farm – +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain>Hangar Expansion – Add on to current hangar facilities for your choice of +40 aero drone space, or +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Docking Pylon – Large spire designed to service the operation, construction and maintenance of larger FTL capable ships. Each Pylon holds 4 docking spaces for ship construction and maintenance. 100N 400M
>>33385108Ship Construction Options>ShuttleCost: 50N 150MSize: 30 MetersA small craft designed to transport goods, drones, or anything else that needs to move from one location to another. They are typically used only for transport to and from orbit, and can carry up to 25 medium sized drones at once, or a single large drone.Space PodCost: 20N 50MSize: 10 MetersSimilar to your own pod, the standard Space Pod is an organic lump of sensors and maneuvering thrusters equipped with basic radiation shielding and a Blink Drive. They have very little room for cargo, and typically only carry a thinker and enough rations to last the duration of a mission. Due to the focus on small size and low energy signature, they are incapable of escaping a planet’s atmosphere, but can easily be towed by a shuttle.
>>33385108Oh yeah, about that >Current armory15 Thorn Launchers, 4 Sting Casters (285M) were only made back when the drone count had an error in it >>33097036 It doesn't matter much with our reserves right now, but ships seem to cost a lot of metals and we'll want to build bigger ships soon.
>>33385135Finished Research>Oxygen RecyclerAn artificially engineered culture of bacteria designed to replenish a drone’s oxygen supply, letting it hold its breath for extended periods of time while removing the need for bulky air tanks or breathing tubes.>Unity ComputerThrough elaborate testing and examination you have been able to put together some of the Unity computer’s design. It operates as a series of interconnected entangled particles, providing the vast amount of computing power required for a fully sapient mind. A series of more conventional circuitry surrounds the quantum computer core, providing more precise computations than the more abstract quantum processor is capable of. While the computer itself is not enough to reverse engineer, it should help put you on the right track to designing your own such processors, which would offer thinkers a much more robust grasp of nature, increasing their adaptability to new situations without your guidance.>Ceph Cloaking FieldVery Slow (Fast with the aid of Coil)Huey and Dewy have made excellent progress with the cloaking field, and your thinkers have gone over every inch of the device. It is a mixture of technologies designed to avoid detection. An array of projectors bend light slightly to curve around the ship instead of bouncing off, while heat sinks absorb radiant heat and match the background radiation and a complex system of speakers counter the sound waves of crew and ship activity while in the atmosphere, muting the sound of engines or equipment.Available researchhttp://pastebin.com/qtpitgns
>>33385087Do we have the power of reincarnation? If not, how durable is our form?
>>33385182No. Why are you asking silly question?We're a player in the game where you win or you die. Don't go looking for immortality.
>>33385156I figured you would want to keep them for use by future drones, since they don't have any upkeep. Metal is used in upfront price, but not for upkeep so you tend to need more of it, but you don't need as much in income.
>>33385160So is Ceph genetics, Taidaren genetics, and human genetics not gonna be listed as a research field?Or Ceph color-shifting skin?What about the hover-technology that made the humans' buggy float, or Coil float in the air?
>>33385160With your research concluded your thinkers stand idle. What would you have them research next?
>>33385160>Dat Quantum CalculationsI want it so much.>>33385182We could make ourselves like fungus where we can never die unless our brain is destroyed but that's about it.
>>33385214Okay. Then, we should expand our hive to the whole planet, so we will have lots of defences and places to hide.
>>33385269>Biomechanical EngineeringAlthough, this really sounds more like. Biosymbiotic engineering? Or parasitic?
>>3338526918.>Regeneration Tank38.>Quantum Communications
>>33385087Hey QD, I belatedly noticed that hexographer pesters with the announcing of its new update every time it starts, so here's the new version.http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/41929277/file.htmlAs usual the filename has to be hexographer-pb.jar, replacing the old file entirely, don't let the browser save it as "hexographer-pb (1).jar" or something.
>>33385347>Quantum CommunicationsUHHHHNo. We are not cutting off access to the Broker and the Valen bank.We still have to send this master ruse to him -- Note that we don't know whether Lyle sent a status update after we killed his crew and he started repairs, so avoid mentioning anything contradicting that."Rogers has been infected with local fungus. He has become incoherent, delusional and dangerously erratic. Medical treatment difficult and ineffective so far. Prognosis unknown."
>>33385265 Genetics would be in the two new research fields, the other stuff I forgot and just added to the list, thanks for reminding me.
>>33385269OP did you know about the special properties that tachyons have? Like that the fact that they can travel backwards in time?
>>33385269All thinkers to work on quantum calculations.The sooner we get this one done, the sooner our thinkers become more effective, the faster we can do the rest. It is an obvious choice.
>>33385269>Lightning gunBecause, if it's destroyed, we can purchase the technology from Theseus. Better to see if we can get it ourselves, first...Actually. We should see if the Taidaren twins have ever seen a CIP pistol before. They seemed to use ballistic weaponry only, and Lyle seems to be from the Commonwealth not the Union, but there's a chance.>Linear Particle BeamsWe need to scale up a real high damage weapon like this quick so we can reach ship sizes next.>Biomechanical EngineeringIt leads to at the least, truth serum and mood control right? Best for interrogations....also, you forgot to delete Unity Computer from the list there.
>>33385400>Genetics would be in the two new research fieldsEh?Figuring out how to produce food they can digest is under Biomechanical Engineering?What fields are you referring to?
>>33385160>All on Quantum CalculationsWe need this the most.
>>33385269Current popular options seem to be>Biomechanical Engineering>Quantum Calculations>Split thinkers>Focus on one>Other>>33385360Thank you very much.>>33385445Yes, although time travel makes things far too complicated. As it stands in fluff, tachyons are photons accelerated past the light barrier during the big bang, and have been trapped in a state of infinity ever since. It's less "faster than light" and more "everywhere and nowhere simultaneously."
>>33385570Focus on Quantum Calculations
>>33385570I wasn't thinking of time travel I was thinking of precognition. Would that be possible?
>>33385628That's the same thing. Time-traveling information.It breaks the real world laws of physics exactly as hard as FTL travel, since they're basically equivalent.Precog sounds counter to the fluff he just said though.
>>33385570Focus on Quantum Calculations. Do that and the rest goes quicker.
>>33385570>Focus on Quantum Calculations
>>33385628That would open up a big can of worms with potential futures and alternate realities and all kinds of weird things.Theoretically, but it's not time traveling information, but super complicated predictions, and requires lots of research into quantum algorithms and Void Crystals.
>>33385628We all ready got a way to get plot info from the space crystals Lets just leave time travel alone
Haaa.God I'm slow.I realized that Canians live on the star in the system called Wolf. Wolf as in 'Canis lupus'. Canians, Canis, Canine.And that was before I even noticed Ceph was a shortening of cephalopod. I blame it originally being spelled Seph.Which makes me wonder, what does Valen derive from? Give the above, and them being 'weird' about not-torturing Lyle and being philosophy types. Valence bonds? Valence as in feelings, emotions, or as in naive optimism, like the "valence effect"? Or "Valentine", even.
>>33385570>Focus on Quantum CalculationsYour thinkers tear into the remains of the Unity Computer once more, this time with theories as to how to build such a device of your own.as they do so you hear a ping of static from Theseus."If you wish, the power systems are repaired and I am ready to begin repairs of the quantum power tap. It is currently operating at a low output, and the containment fields have been damaged." He says. "I can instruct you on how to repair it, but it may be hazardous.">Continue the repairs and instructions>Halt repairs for now>Focus on other areas of the ship>Other
>>33385929>Continue the repairs and instructions
>>33385929>Halt repairs for nowAI forgetting whos in charge
>>33385821Well since none of them use words in the same way we do their own names are not pronounceable by humans, (or us, for that matter) so all those names from the Clarke database are the names humans have given them.
>>33385929>but it may be hazardousHazardous how? What is the danger involved?
>>33385997>conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Welcome_to_ConworldsQD have you ever been to this site before?
>>33385570>Focus research on Quantum Calculations.
>>33385997speaking of things we found on the clarke didn't we find some pictures and lees journals or something will we ever have an option to look through them
>>33385929>>33386007"What are the risks?" You reply quickly."The quantum power tap is a powerful magnetic shell containing two artificial black holes orbiting each other at close to light speed. If the containment field is not repaired further damage could result in the device consuming the ship and the nearby area before dissipating. Likewise, repair efforts could result in injury or death to the operators."
>>33386066Let's not make the QM write up a bunch of gratuitous fluff when we have a finite 300 posts till bump limit each Sunday in which to be able to play.Please, let's save weird fluffy questions like this for after 300th post.
>>33386079>If the containment field is not repaired further damage could result in the device consuming the ship and the nearby area before dissipating.Shit
Concerning drone buildingDoes the fact that small drones cost 1/4 of the price mean that we can build tiny Advanced Psionics drones to help communication really cheap?
>>33386079Let's fix it as soon as possible then.
>>33386079Righto lets fix.
>>33386079>Continue repairsYour workers move into the engineering section as Theseus analyzes the damage.Please roll 1d100, best of 3, due to Theseus's help and guidance crit fails are only normal failures.>>33386138Some adaptations are too big to fit on small drones, like weapons or a chemical forge, including relays, which are quite large.
>>33386138Are you talking about the relays?Cause those are more like structures then drones and require a lot more power than a small drone can provide
Rolled 62>>33386352I don't even want to roll anymore.But I must. The game must be fair.>>33386321
>>33386322>>33386321I was just looking at the drone builder pastebin and the advanced psionics said nothing about limitations. I guessed it was something like this though which was why i asked.
>>33386321The process is slow, but your drones manage to avoid the insatiable maw of the strange power tap. You leave them under the watchful guidance of Theseus as you tend to other matters. Your pod and shuttles have been assembled and are ready for duty. The cloaking device has been removed from the Angel and could be used as a cheap alternative to producing your own, which would take additional time.>Equip the pod with the cloaking field and tow it to orbit>Tow the pod into orbit but save the cloaking field>Equip the cloaking field to one of your shuttles>Find the Union monitoring satellite with your shuttle>Other
>>33386519>Find the Union monitoring satellite with your shuttle
>>33386519>Equip the cloaking field to one of your shuttles>Find the Union monitoring satellite with your shuttle
>>33386519>>Find the Union monitoring satellite with your shuttleWhile cloaked. Obviously.Ask Coil what, exactly, his plan is to deal with the Monitor.
>>33386519>Equip the cloaking field to one of your shuttles>Find the Union monitoring satellite with your shuttle>Ask Coil to help you
>>33386519>Find the Union monitoring satellite with your shuttle>Equip the cloaking field to one of your shuttlesGet the lizards to disable it
>>33386519>Tow the pod into orbit but save the cloaking field>Find the Union monitoring satellite with your shuttle
>>33386519>Equip the cloaking field to one of your shuttles and find the Union satellite.One of your two shuttles roars to life, its thrusters kicking dust and mud in all directions as it slowly ascends. As it arcs over the jungle the air around it bends and it disappears into an orb of folded light. Its first flight is going perfectly and you can make out the small clearing where the Angel is buried."Coil, how did you intend to deactivate the satellite?""We have a code given to us for the mission." He says, scooting his body towards your speaker, "The satellite will still function, but will not report anything unusual. We must fix the ship quickly! Before it's too late!">Take Coil to the satellite>Have Coil instruct from the ground>Other
>>33386808>Have Coil instruct from the ground
>>33386808"Before, you said that you used a code which was temporary, masquerading as maintenance crew. That the satellite would return to normal function at the next system update. You said that doing this again would arouse suspicion. Is this a different code?"
>>33386909Ooooh nice. Good question.
>>33386808Nice >>33386909>Have Coil instruct from the ground
>>33386808"You said that may arouse suspicion if the same code is used twice." Your speaker says."Yes." Coil shifts his weight, nervously flopping along the ground like a sack of jelly. "But it is the only way. It will not last forever, but it should last long enough to get help from my people!"You elect to have him stay on the ground and advice from there, and your shuttle quickly reaches orbit. Finding the satellite proves to be more easily said than done, as without the broadcast it is nearly invisible. You search along its orbital path, and eventually find it drifting slowly along its orbit, slowly covering the planet as the twirling gases of the thick atmosphere churn beneath you. You can see several large storms near the equator, and a small region of relative calm and clear skies near the poles.The satellite itself is a narrow, long cylinder covered in antennae and solar arrays. On the front is a large fish eye lense surrounded in smaller cameras and sensors of various kinds, and near the back it is a wide block of thick metal. You see a small panel, poorly secured with one bolt where you suspect the interface is.>Take the entire satellite into the shuttle for your workers to examine>Have your workers move out to examine it, taking breaks to return to the shuttle for air>Other
>>33386909Yep we really need to know
>>33387207Take it in the shuttleDisable its ability to move and then launch it in away from the planet and let it drift in the void
>>33387207If we mess with its orbit, itll probably go off.Get the workers to take turns going out.
>>33387207>"But it is the only way. It will not last forever, but it should last long enough to get help from my people!"Well this is a terrible plan then. Fuck this, never mind.It will be better to just have all our ships leave the system with their newly outfitted cloaking devices. We don't need to disable it entirely... yet.Understanding it would still be good though. Even if this could hypothetically backfire.>Have your workers move out to examine it, taking breaks to return to the shuttle for airSlow and steady.
>>33387207>>Have your workers move out to examine it, taking breaks to return to the shuttle for air
>>33387207>Have your workers move out to examine it, taking breaks to return to the shuttle for air
>>33387207>Send your workers out to examine itYour speaker chitters in frustration. "Your plan is flawed.""No, they will think it is just damage needing repair, only attract attention after a while but it will work long enough to call for help.""That is the flaw."Your workers slowly open the satellite, the small console flashes to life in a series of yellow and black symbols dance across the screen.Several options are available on the console.>Open FTL comm: Available string Union Intelligence Administration: New Port office>Run diagnostic program>Deactivate maintenance mode>Emergency manual override
>>33387528>Run diagnostic program
>>33387528>>Run diagnostic programWell all of these seem like terrible options except this one.Only asking Theseus for help will give us the expertise to subvert this satellite. And giving him control of the satellite would be.... a large leap of trust.
>>33385160Could we apply some of the things we learn from the clocking field to are infrastructure to make are hive difficult to find?
>>33387706I like that idea. But which ones and how?
>>33387744All of them.By slapping on as much cloaking as possible.
>>33387528You wonder how effective Theseus would be at subverting the satellite. Surely more than Coil at any rate. You run the diagnostic program to see if you can figure out how the device functions.>Diagnostic underway, please stand by....>Sensor systems online>Power systems online>Maneuvering jets online>Propellant canisters full>FTLComm on standby>Targeting systems functional>Guidance systems functional>Separation charges ready>Auxiliary programming on standbyThe screen displays a diagram of the satellite in false color, with several apparent compartments within the rear segment. You find several small explosives within bolts connecting the metal plating to the satellite, and the entire sensor system appears to be detachable.>Ask Theseus for help in subverting the satellite>Use Coil's code to keep it dormant for now>Investigate further and attempt to enter the sattilite>Other
>>33387821Sort of torn between 1 and 3. I prefer permanent solutions, but 3 is risk of us fucking up and 1 is putting trust in Theseus.
>>33387821>>Investigate further and attempt to enter the sattilite
>>33387821>Ask Theseus for help in subverting the satelliteIt's in our mutual interests that the Union does not arrive. Theseus will most likely help us at no cost.
>>33387821>Ask Theseus for help in subverting the satellite>Investigate further and attempt to enter the satellite
>>33387821>Ask Theseus for help in subverting the satellite
>>33387880>>33387889>wanting to give Theseus the satellite>>33387821>Investigate further and attempt to enter the satellite
>>33387850Yes, definitely.The only thing is we don't want Theseus to keep an active instance of himself in the satellite, because then he has an FTLComm where he can fuck us over, if we end up betraying him.And a working sensor array to watch every one of our comings and goings as we fly into space and FTL outta this system and back.
>>33387706Unfortunately the result would be a mountainside that appears blurry, as if underwater. Masking your hive's thermal image is actually done by nature, as you make an effort to keep heat out and keep the hive cool, although in the winter the hive would become much more visible.So you could, but the visual cloaking would not apply much of a bonus, and thermal masking could cause health risks. It would be somewhat the equivalent of camo, useful to hide from orbital observers but the illusion would break down when viewed up close.
>>33387922If I recall correctly it was stated the satellite doesn't have the power to penetrate the thick atmosphere and can only detect varying radiation levels.I didn't vote either way myself.
>>33387922Quantum entanglement comms can only send to one reciever, and in this case, it's to the Union, so he can't fuck us up there.
>>33387818I mean, how are projectors which bend light going to help our infrastructure? Illusionary tunnels for defense?The heat sinks just absorb radiant heat to match the background, having that in our infrastructure would be counter intuitive to our current methods, IIRC.Not sure how useful the sound masking would be either.
>>33387943>although in the winter the hive would become much more visiblewe need to work on this before winter.
>>33387979>he can't fuck us up thereHe can. He can sic the Union on us out of spite if we ever get into conflict.And he'd have a spy satellite and see all of our space ships that come and go. So we can't hide that anymore.This is assuming that his assistance involves installing Unity OS onto the satellite, rather than simply giving us control of it, of course.
>>33387821>Investigate further and attempt to enter the sattilite
>>33387990No you don't understand.We make the planet disappear.
>>33388039mayhaps we should ask him if he would even help first? before we go in breaking things?
>>33388042An array of organo-sats surrounding the planet in a sphere which obscures it from the very void of space itself?I think I understand now......you're insane!
>>33388042oh man i could go for us doing this
>>33388042YES YES YES
>>33388042>then what is our satellite orbiting around?Yes, Union will never investigate now!
>>33387943How about muting the sounds we make from tunneling and such?
>>33388133all we have to do is toss it into spacethenwe'll have our nice cloaked homeworld 2.0 all to ourselves
>>33388042As fun as the idea is, we can't mask the gravity of the planet.
>>33387821You quickly send a thought to Theseus. You can sense even through his calculated demeanor that he is tense. A small human tool is torn from a worker's grasp and is consumed by the power tap, and you feel the power conduits in the Clarke seize momentarily."Yes?" He responds in a somewhat rushed tone."You are aware of the satellite in orbit, yes?""I am not, but I had assumed it was there, yes.""Would it be possible for you to disable it?" You ask in between his instructions to your workers."Yes, easily, with the repair of the communication array."You return your attention to your workers as they find a small corridor leading in, likely for legitimate maintenance work but it should serve to satisfy your curiosity.Roll 1d100, best of 3 for investigation
>>33388156Tachyons can mask the effects of gravity by being decelerated in a lorenz-geodesic pantam field.
>>33388195thats enough pesudo science babble to make me think that it just might work.
Rolled 36>>33388193>>33388195Dammit Jim...
Rolled 14>>33388193Oah boy here we go
Rolled 73>>33388193Yeah...he is currently busy it seems.
Rolled 85>>33388233Why do i feel like this a close but no cigar roll?>rollan just to see if i would have failed
>>33388195I must admit that I don't actually know enough about that to say it will work or not, but it sounds cool and if it works the way it sounds like it works then that is actually how Warp Jamming works, although you don't have that tech yet.
>>33388195>pantam fieldYou mean a phantom field right?
>>33388193Your workers open the small paneling and enter the cramped space. You direct them to where you think the hollow space is, and your workers encounter a wide, rectangular pillar running down the length of the satellite's spine. A large ring is wrapped around it and several other consoles are placed along the side. It almost looks like an entirely different satellite within the first. Your workers quickly scramble up to the ring and note a number of small aerodynamic canisters within marked with a series of bright yellow circles painted on the side. The entire device appears to be dormant, but one of the consoles is operational.>Investigate the console>Leave it alone for now>Other"What is wrong with the communication system?" You ask Theseus idley."The only way to broadcast anything past the clouds would be to either go their physically, or use the radio laser. The laser in question has been damaged. It would not take long to fix, should you agree.">Agree to repair the communications array of the Clarke>Not now>Other
>>33388257Damn it, that roll would do it I bet!
>>33388487It's a nuke.To reduce tech level of a planet.
>>33388487Ask Theseus what it is.
>>33388487>a number of small aerodynamic canisters within marked with a series of bright yellow circles painted on the side.Goddomot Lee, why is your race full of such flagrant assholes?!Sat;>Investigate the consoleTheseus;>Not Now, we're super busy.
>>33388487Fuck Put it in the shuttle and blow this thing up as far away from the planet as possibleOur cover gonna be blown sooner than later so fuck it
>>33388521The satellite did mention it had "Targeting systems". >>33387821>>33388487"Wait, you can disable the satellite in such a way that it appears to continue to observe an uneventful planet? How?""Can you hand over control of the satellite software?"
>>33388521>>33388549It's an FTL drive....
>>33388487>OtherAsk Theseus what those canisters are>Agree to repair the communications array of the Clarke
>>33388582In the event we take down the satellite, and they come knocking, we can complaing we were annoyed by its noise (radio sensitive, remember?) and removed it.
So the lizard may have not blown themselves to the stone ageThe Humans did and then enslaved the survivors as techsSmart
>>33388599I second this emotion
>>33388487>Investigate the console>>Not now
>>33388487Your workers quickly move to the console. It appears to have a small set of limited available inputs.>Activate emergency protocolsThat sounds very bad, and you promptly ignore it.>Run diagnosticIt appears most of the functions run from the outer satellite. You activate the diagnostic program and quickly receive a short list.>Targeting systems online>Payload full: 16 warheads available for dispersal>System on standby: awaiting Parliament authorization code"Perhaps after the current repairs are finished." You finally say to Theseus."Yes, of course." He says quickly as your workers slowly alter the containment field, gradually increasing the Clarke's stability.>Leave the satellite for now>Destroy the satellite>Enter Coil's code to keep it dormant for now>Help Theseus disable the Satellite>Other
>>33388807So if they can't control a species they destroy it.What a shame. For them.
Hey little off topic, but don't have a lot of time to post, I'm not usually online when this quest runs. So could we replace our drones that run our farms with smaller drones? Even if it takes 3 do do the work of one big drone the upkeep would be more efficient, maybe someone could design a micro drone that is specialized for Algae farming? Exta biomorphs more expensive but perhaps the ratio could be then brought down to 2:1 perhaps even 1:1
>>33388807Such a friendly people these humans
>>33388807>They have nukes set up to bomb us on demandHahaha
>>33388807>Enter Coil's code to keep it dormant for now
>>33388807>Help Theseus disable the Satellite
>>33388807>OtherAsk Theseus what end result he can achieve with the satellite.Will he be networking with it? Or reprogram it? Set a program to send a simulated sensory signal of an uneventful planet?
>>33388807Help Theseus.Wonder if we could research nukes.Take one payload?
>>33388851>implying you can bomb bug city>implying it isn't just a staging area
>>33388854No. No raising suspicions and drawing attention.>>33388880The system will notice and report tampering like that, did you even think at all?Can't take samples until after it's thoroughly hacked by Theseus. Which we may not even want to do.>>33388879Ask Theseus what exactly he can do, come on.
>>33388807>gradually increasing the Clarke's stability.I'm a little confused, is Thesus's overall goal to fly the clarke out of system?>keep satellite dormant for nowlets try to hack other human tech so we can possibly come back to the satellite
>>33388807>16 warheads available for dispersalYou know what this line reads to me?>16 free nukes to loot and reverse-engineerLet's do this, lads!
>>33388807>OtherTry to remove the warheads?>Enter Coil's code to keep it dormant for nowAnd then... I don't know.Try to bring a thinker up to research the sat?
>>33388807Put in shuttle or tow itDenotate itWe already gave the ai a unstable nuke now you guys want to give it more?Just speed build a defense fleet and wait for the check up teams
>>33388807>>Leave the satellite for now>>Help Theseus disable the SatelliteANYTHING but entering the code.That'll arouse suspicion people why are you saying this
>>33388909The reactor is unstable.
>>33388916I second this. Speed build a CLOAKED defense fleet and wait for the check up teams.
>>33388807>>Help Theseus disable the SatelliteAsk him to give us control over it, please, not give him control over it pls
>>33388807>Help Theseus disable the Satellite and loot the nukes.
>>33388903No need to be condescending.I stated that we should hack it.Diagnostics are on-site.Did you even think at all?
>>33388807>Enter Coil's code to keep it dormant for nowWe have to deal with the satellite now.
>>33388944Theseus wouldn't nuke us right off the bat. He needs our bugs in order to rebuild the Clarke.
>>33388916>>33388932Yes build a cloaked fleet, but don't damage the satellite or input the code why would you do that?Why would you want them to come?
>>33388807>>Leave the satellite for now
>>33388964>We have to deal with the satellite now.No we don't, waht the fuck are you thinking.We have cloaking technology now.We can fly right past it, it doesn't matter anymore.
>>33388981Their idiots what do you expect?
>>33388968Also remember the Union's objective - research biological life. Theseus is less likely to nuke us than humans do.
>>33389012>Union'sYou mean Unity.
>>33388981There gonna come one way or another but I would rather have the homespace under our controlThey will back off if the see a fleet guarding our world but we cant give them the option of nuking us right nowIts too dangerous
>>33389012>misnaming the Unity Networked System as the Union of Independent Colonies
>>33389026My bad, I keep getting the two switched. I mean the AIs.
>>33389004We do have to deal with it now. If they either receive word or receive no word at all, then they send a fleet. We're not ready for it. Cloaking technology is not a lynchpin, it's a tool.
>>33388807"If you were able to, how would you be able to disable it?" You ask."The satellite? Simple. They are automated to respond to threats and report strange events. I would simply overwrite that and have it report calm, uneventful activity.""And they would not detect you?"You sense what you could only describe as a laugh. A short spark of energy pinging through your mind. "Of course not."You weigh your options.>Have Theseus hack the satellite>Use Coil's code to temporarily keep it dormant>Destroy it>Ignore it until it reactivates>Other
>>33389030You do realize we could just remove the nukes.
>>33389050>Have Theseus hack the satellite
>>33389045>If they either receive word or receive no word at all, then they send a fleet.But that's wrong.Let the satellite reactivate itself at the next update request, and no fleet will come.Show no signs of a fleet on their sensors, by being cloaked and invisible, and they have no reason to come.>>33389050>>Have Theseus hack the satelliteThat sounds better.So long as we can understand what he's doing and we get to take apart the satellite bits. Including the sensors and the weaponry onboard.Then it's a harmless little orbiting FTLComm. Blind, and toothless.
>>33389050>Have Theseus hack the satelliteCould we remove the nukes.
>>33389075>>33389050I think that if we want Theseus to hack it we should also elaborate that we'd like to be able to take the more sensitive parts of the satellite apart for study, so if he can also disable any latent security features that'd be swell.
>>33389075We're not cloaked. The update request is supposed to come from Lyle and his men, who are no longer capable of responding on their own. When they fail to respond, the satellite activates its nuclear package, or if the satellite fails itself, then they send a fleet to bomb us back to square one.
>>33389062Yea and leave the sat in place for what? Give to ai so he can tell the rest of the unity?We are gonna have to deal with the major powers soon And we are gonna be exposed regardless if by the hanger or the unending runner teamsSo screw it, secure our space and make them understand we are not meant to be messed with
>>33389087That's why we're asking Theseus to hack the sat innit? So that it doesn't transmit, and we can safely defuse/loot/reverse-engineer dem nukes.
>>33389109>We're not cloaked. The update request is supposed to come from Lyle and his men, who are no longer capable of responding on their own. When they fail to respond, the satellite activates its nuclear package, or if the satellite fails itself, then they send a fleet to bomb us back to square one.None of that is accurate.You just made that up based on your grossly inaccurate misreading of the first dialogue with Coil."The next update request" is obviously the next update request sent from the Union server it's FTLComm-networked with. It either means a software update being pushed to the satellite, or requesting an update on the planet's status.
>>33389050>Have Theseus hack the satelliteOnce our thinkers are done with their research we can have them study the satellite as well as it's payload.
>>33389050>Have Theseus hack the satelliteask if he can let us take the nukes off the satallite as well when he hack it.
>>33389050You send several workers to investigate the radio laser. It's a small turret near the rim of what is left of the Clarke's shield cap. The device appears to only have superficial damage, but from what you understand of this kind of technology that is more than enough to cause it to break down."On second thought, how long would it take to repair.""Perhaps several hours. It is functional, it simply cannot be directed properly.""Very well, how does it need repairing?"You feel Theseus split his mind into two. He returns his attention to the repairs of the Clarke's power tap as the new... him examines the radio laser. It takes barely an hour to perform the needed repairs, replacing several servos with some replacement parts found in the Clarke's cargo bay.It quickly comes to life, swiveling sharply to face the sky. Your workers are jolted by a sudden burst of movement from the satellite as it faces several antennie towards the surface in response. Several moments later and you feel the two minds in the Clarke merge again, and the satellite fires its own transmission back."Interesting. A standard monitor satellite linked to the local intelligence office. Perhaps..." you feel him trail off in a series of calculations. "I do believe with sixty percent certainty that the Union considers you to be above class 1 or greater.""You have already finished?" You ask."Yes. If they were capable of preventing my digital intrusions they would not need to use analog backup computers.">Speak with Theseus (write in)>Remove the warheads>Other
>>33389401>Remove the warheads
>>33389401>>Speak with Theseus (write in)"Then there is no risk to taking components of the satellite apart? Removing the warheads? The sensors or communication array?"
>>33389401>Remove the warheadsHave Theseus make ties with the unity to start diplomatic relations
>>33389401>>Remove the warheadsThis isn't even a question.
>>33389481>make tiesYou have no idea what entangled quantum particles based FTLComm tech is do you.>diplomatic relationsNo.
>>33389401>>Remove the warheadsAnybody remember if a class 1 is very high or very low on the Union's threat scale?
>>33389540>or higherclass 0 is stonesmashers.They suspect us of being space-faring because of that organic pod they found that then vanished the next day. Our pod.They can't prove it was ours yet. But we're very suspicious.And if it's not ours, it means a different FTL race could have landed here and infiltrated our world.
>>33389569But even though they suspect us all they left was an apparently low grade spy satellite. Nukes aside.
>>33389401You quickly have your workers load the warheads onto your shuttle. The satellite shows no sign of complaint.>Returning to monitor mode, stand by...>All systems are normal. Zero emissions detected. Local scans show no objects.The short update is quickly sent through the Quantum communication device. Theseus seems to be amused by it all. "I must say, you learn quickly."Now, what will you do with 16 nuclear warheads?>Transport them back to the planet for study and storage>Keep them in orbit>Dispose of them>Other
>>33389700>>Transport them back to the planet for study and storage"In the interest of our mutual safety... do you have any safety protocols for handling these warheads?"
>>33389151"And it is dormant now?""Yes.""What are these codes?""They are in the computer. They make the monitor think we are maintenance workers.""How long will it remain dormant?""Until it receives an update request. Usually a few weeks. We are usually long gone by now.""When did you shut it down?""When we first arrived. We turned off the warning broadcast and the monitor"The code would have turned off the monitor, but kept it transmitting. As soon as they saw our emissions, they would have reacted. Suspicious, sure, but on the other hand Theseus could be playing the long game.
>>33389700>Transport them back to the planet for study and storage
>>33389401This sounds good >>33389436>Remove the warheads
>>33389722>>33389700I'll second this.
>>33389700>>Transport them back to the planet for study and storage>>33389722Would we need to? iirc, our drones are immune to radiation that would kill a human several times over, and if IRL protocols are being followed, the codes to arm the nukes are nowhere near us. Though it is possible for Theseus to hack his way into them given time.
>>33389700>Transport them back to the planet for study and storageWe should construct a facility far from our hive for this, that can double later as a missile site.
>>33389760The decision is kind of moot now. But sure, weigh the risks and benefits of trusting Theseus to get a permanent solution versus making a temporary solution that will draw Union attention and probably an inspection into the satellite in a week or two. That's reasonable.But that anon up there said a bunch of bullshit that had no basis in anything.We are cloaked. The shuttle is cloaked. We can cloak every single ship before we send it into space so it can slip right by any sensors.The update request does not come from Lyle.>"Until it receives an update request. Usually a few weeks. We are usually long gone by now."If it receives an update request in a few weeks, and Lyle and his crew are gone before that, then it cannot possibly be expected to come from them. It comes from the Union uplink.And the satellite launching its warheads automatically would be a fucking stupid hothead design, and the Union is clearly intelligent. And the satellite said right there that it requires an authorization code from Parliament in order to launch the weaponry.
>>33389700>Transport them back to the planet for study and storageI wonder if we can find the fissionable material on this world to make more nukes? Or will we have to go to the other planets now?
>>33389820Our workers may be immune to radiation, but they're sure as hell isn't immune from the massive shockwave and sun-level heat produced by the detonation of one. If we are to study them we need to know how to reverse-engineer one without turning most of our hive to charred shit.
>>33389700>>Transport them back to the planet for study and storage
Reminder that Theseus now posses comms capable of contacting things in Orbit.
>>33389867Like I said, most IRL nukes are made to be tamper-proof, and detonating one would require a very precise process. Exploding something near it would only disable the nuke.
>>33389893I know. But it's best we not take away his toys until we complete the Clark repairs.Once we get all the Clarke research we can get and understand everything about it, then we can remove sensitive parts from his control.
>>33389893Assuming he also didn't split a part of himself and put it on the sat without telling us.
>>33389897Yeah, but IC we don't really know that, don't we?I assumed we get the vibe that these warhead thingies are maybe dangerous because of the black and yellow coloration, and we've seen it before on Lyle's ship.
>>33389929he prob did that
>>33389946they prob not using nukesMust be that special mineral in there ftl just weaponized
>>33389929Possible. But it won't matter if we- remove the communication array from the satellite- remove all sensors from the satelliteA Theseus that is blind and deaf and that we don't know exists has no reason to betray us.
>>33389700>>Transport them back to the planet for study and storageand>>OtherDisable or take for study the satellite's sensors and communications arrays. It don't need those no more.
>>33389700Your shuttle descends with its deadly cargo, very very slowly. Your shuttle touches down on the outscirts of your hive and they quickly take them into the tunnels below, deep beneath the ground and far from anything important.>New research optionAtomicsVery slow/Very dangerousYou can't help but feel better with the satellite relatively taken care of. It floats silently for some time before resuming the regular warning signal once more. You still have your pod available, and your short time in orbit has revealed a number of natural signals in the system.>Replace the cloaking field onto your pod>Have a shuttle tow your pod into orbit>Use your cloaked shuttle to investigate the rest of the planet>Other
>>33390011>Use your cloaked shuttle to investigate the rest of the planet
>>33390011>Use your cloaked shuttle to investigate the rest of the planetput the first cloak we make into the pod then put it in position
Maybe we could use the nukes to mine asteroids later?
>>33390011>Around the planet in 80 hoursDO EET
>>33390011>>Use your cloaked shuttle to investigate the rest of the planetWe need to find a species that is adapted to the extreme heat of global summer, to mimic its natural air conditioning.>OtherConstruct one of our own cloaking devices and attach it to a pod. You haven't mentioned the cost of constructing one yet.Then put the cloaked pod into orbit to watch for us.
>>33390011>Use your cloaked shuttle to investigate the rest of the planetExpansion and growth time!
>>33390011Can we have a cloaked pod as a sort of orbital early warning system? If so then >Have a shuttle tow your pod into orbit>Use your cloaked shuttle to investigate the rest of the planet
>>33390088>Can we have a cloaked pod as a sort of orbital early warning system?this seems rather dangerous....
>>33390011>>Use your cloaked shuttle to investigate the rest of the planet
Maybe we can stick a nuke inside a cloaked pod and have it be a sort of suicide bomber.Come to think of it, I wonder if the humans have cloaked missile tech.
>>33390156Nukes aren't all that great without their activation codes.
>>33390168Yeah, about that...http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/launch-code-for-us-nukes-was-00000000-for-20-years/
>>33390186My country is amazing.
>>33390221Well the idea was that all launches had to be done by hand, so there was no rick of hacking back then.
>>33390186Glorious. ALL HAIL AMERICA!
MEANWHILE Mr. Broker requires a reply still.We should really do that simultaneously with all this satellite stuff.
>>33390011Your shuttle quickly takes off again, flying just below the cloud layer to get a good view of the ground below.North of your mountain is a valley, carved by wind and rain and leading to a wide open plain. The land is carved with harsh winds like a dry fjord. The land is muddy and where it isn't covered in the scars of wind and runoff it is covered in dense fungal vegetation. The thick atmosphere permits what would normally be a thin line of swampland and jungle to spread to most of the planet. It tapers off slowly near the poles as the air becomes colder, leading to a vast frozen landscape of lichen and fungal ferns, and finally to deep snowdrifts and frozen ice packs. Southward, past the southern mountains the plains are more harsh. A desert of roasted, cracked soil pocketed with massive, white mushroom trees that stubbornly insist on living in the forsaken ground. At the equator there is a thin line of barren rock. Roasted and charred black and littered with the blackened remains of long dead animals, cooked alive on the world-circling skillet, and further south the pattern repeats, with a mix of wind blasted mountains and dry fjords leading into a dense thicket of marshland and jungle.>>33390186My friends have always joked that my wifi password was a nuclear launch code, now I can say I have them beat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k
>>33390304You guys thinking of an artic hive site? also desert looks good
Sometime we need to send our warriors out on hunting trips to find new lifeforms we can research.
>>33390304You remember the transmission you had received from the mysterious 'broker' figure a day ago, and you wonder if you should respond to try and avoid any more investigations or snooping in your system.>Transmit to the broker (write in)>Continue to ignore the update request>Have your shuttle investigate (write in) area further>Tow your pod into orbit>Switch out your cloaking field to your pod>Make a new cloaking field (5N 15M per 10 meters in ship size, 15N 45M for shuttle, 5N 15M for pod)
>>33390528"Rogers has been infected with local fungus. He has become incoherent, delusional and dangerously erratic. Medical treatment difficult and ineffective so far. Prognosis unknown."He may already know that most of the crew is dead, or he may not. It doesn't matter.Run the above lie by Coil to make sure it's convincingly something he'd send?
>>33390528>>Make a new cloaking field (5N 15M for pod)Tow the cloaked pod into orbit.Have the cloaked shuttle investigate the hot lands with warriors and such to retrieve samples of things that live in the extreme temperatures.Samples of those giant white mushrooms too.
>>33390528This is the same pod with the psionic transmitter, yes?
>>33390528a mix of these sounds good to me.we need more samples too.>>33390552>>33390589
>>33390602Yes. You currently have two shuttles and one pod. One of the shuttles has a Ceph designed cloaking device, and the pod has an advanced psionic relay
>>33390528>>Make a new cloaking field for a shuttleI think it wise to monopolize on this tech, especially since we're trying to keep a low profile. Plus, we could return the ceph cloaking to the Angle, if we ever decide to employ that mercenary we captured
>>33390528>Transmit to the broker (write in)"Just hangin out."
>>33390660Monopolize it?It already in the arsenal of the other factions intelligence communityThe only reason its going to be effective for us is that they think we may at best have early space exploration tech level
>>33390528You quickly assemble a new cloaking field and implant it into your pod. It quickly grows into the hull, sprouting bulbous projectors along the outside. The amount of light that needs to be distorted increases the cost the larger the ship is. while useful for small craft, you wonder if it would be worth being implanted into larger ships.Regardless, the pod is quickly towed into orbit and it effortlessly glides away from the shuttles grasp, drifting into the endless void of space. Your shuttle moves back before it reaches the limits of its connection, while the pod quickly moves off, unimpeded by distance with its powerful relay.You detect a number of anomalies. Your planet is the innermost object to the star, moving on a drastically elliptical orbit. Most of the inner system is a dense accretion disk, a cloud of stellar debris tightly formed around the star where several failed planets had torn each other apart fighting over an orbit path. The limit it only a few hundred thousand kilometers out from your planet, and it likely helps mask your planet's existence to those investigating your system, however in the winter you suspect you may suffer meteor showers. Further out, at least six light hours, is a large gas giant. You can detect several small planetoids caught in its orbit, three in total.>Investigate the belt>Investigate the gas giant>Investigate the planetoids>Other
>>33390863>Investigate the gas giant
>>33390863> The limit it What? The limit of what?Investigate whatever's closer. That gas giant will take forever to get to with chemical thrusters.
>>33390939Actually, the pod is FTL capable, meaning it has both a blink drive and a Skid drive, which can quickly reach relativistic speeds and make the distance in a few hours. Your shuttles would take months though, as they only have conventional thrusters.
>>33390863>Investigate the gas giantThe planetoids can come next.
>>33390863>Investigate the beltCan set up ambushes and defensive sites if we position stuff rightAnd there's a hard limit to the effectives of the stealth tech makes sense
>>33390989>it has both a blink drive and a Skid drive,Wait. Skid Drive?If it has a Skid Drive, why can't it use that to reach orbit on its own?
>>33391015Because it can't overcome the gravity of other planets. It's a very bare-bones setup that lacks many of the utility of larger and more complicated versions due to its compact design. The Skid drive is a component of the Blink drive, so if you have one you have both.
Bit of a side-note, but I'm concerned about the 'crew is sick' ruse. If Lyle is thought to be dead/decisively helpless, it's possible the broker would send teams to recover the other end of the expensive FTL relay and that fancy ship loaded full of tech.Lyle's no doubt useful and highly profitable, but I doubt it's loyalty that keeps the Broker from double-crossing him for his swag.
>>33390863>Investigate the gas giant.Your pod locks onto the planet and quickly accelerates towards it. The belt is thick with debris but your pod suffers no issue, with the debris of any size thousands of kilometers apart. Soon a more in depth analysis of the gas giant comes up, and your pod enters into an orbit as it takes in the new information. It has a radius of nearly a hundred thousand kilometers, and appears to contain large amounts of hydrogen. Its orbit contains a thick set of rings, each composed of a mix of ice and light stellar material, with the three planets trailing their own ring as they mix with the swirling rings of stardust
>>33391244>appears to contain large amounts of hydrogenthis is useful. why am i thinking this is useful?
>>33391267Fuel for the Blink drive.
>>33391267Tritium mining for our FTL.
>>33391215Consider the probability of doing the exact same thing if the team is presumed dead/MIA when they don't respond.There's a possibility they will have a few more days of patience, or weeks even, for the team to recover and return with the extremely profitable payload, that the broker gets a cut of.>>33391267It might not be, if the Blink Drive is just powered by an abstraction of a big boost of Nutrients instead of introducing a third resource to track.
>>33391267Hydrogen = cheap fuel
>>33391244This looks rather promising. The ring and planetoids could be mined as well as used as a base for later expansions.
>>33391302That's a fair enough point, but considering Lyle's known history of capture and presumed other scrapes with death, I assume he's given the benefit of the doubt.Admittedly, it all comes down to the psychology of the Broker, which we don't know.
>>33391244As your pod orbits the gas giant you take notice of the orbiting planets. One is a small rocky hellscape of half-molten rock that is fighting to freeze or burn, and what little atmosphere exists is from a number of powerful geysers spraying crystallized water into space, forming a dim, almost undetectable ring following its orbit around the gas giant, the other is a rapidly spinning ovoid. Its spin is so fast it is impossible to accurately take in measurements at this range. The last is a small ball of ice, covered in deep cracks and ravines in the dense frozen landscape.>Investigate the volcanic planet>Investigate the spinning planet>Investigate the ice planet>Other
>>33391394>>Investigate the spinning planetWe must go around it so fast we enter geosynchronous orbit!
>>33391394>Investigate the spinning planet
>>33391394>Investigate the ice planet\easier to handle.
>>33391394>Investigate the ice planetI hope there are ice volcanoes.
>>33391394You move your pod, shifting its orbit to the spinning oval. Its rotation is greater than escape velocity when at high altitude, forcing your pod to maneuver over the pole to get a proper view. Near the pole itself is a small, sharp hill, where the day only lasts less than six minutes. Farther south are large, mile high shards of crystal emanating from geysers of molten rock, cut into deltas by flowing rivers of mercury and torrential storm fronts of ash. While interesting, you spot no safe landing zone, and even if you did you would have no way of getting your pod away again.
>>33391560not this one?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG9FUrRXYxY
>>33391626You observe the planet for some time, taking in the view. There does not appear to be any apparent life at all, and the planet itself appears hostile. You move your pod out of orbit and relocate the other two.>Investigate the ice planet>Investigate the volcanic planet
>>33391726>Investigate the ice planet
>>33391726>Investigate the ice planetI bet there's life here.
Space is awesome and all, but.More distressing mysteries lie closer to home. Coil has evaded what we wanted to know due to poorly worded questions."Have you ever seen Them? What are They like? Where are They?" (Could be just a cargo cult, memory of precursors, or some kind of... 'queen' esque head of the ever shifting military hierarchy.)"How did you first receive permission to use the shards? How did you receive the shards? How did you first learn you were one of the Chosen? How do Ceph become pilots? How did you come to leave your world and work for humans? Who invented your helmet?">>33391726Ice, I guess.
>>33391726>Ice Ice Baby
>>33391726>Investigate the ice planet>>33391740Slow down cowboy we'll get tp that sppn.
>>33391740I'm guessing that while Coil is an ardent believer, he's not an authority on the faith. If I were him, I'd be trying to maneuver this miracle of natural affinity with what is basically god's word closer to someone who could initiate them properly.
>>33391740I don't think Coil CAN give us any information on them.I like the rest of your questions though.>>33391726Volcano planet.
>>33391726You quickly send your pod to the frozen worldlet, doing a quick flyby along the equator. There is no atmosphere to speak of, but the cracks and fissures show signs of liquid water and geological activity below the surface. It is far more hospitable by comparison, with the kilometer high ice cliffs and seemingly endless ravines dropping off into the dark abyss below. The surface ice is constantly changing, with large fissures and caves opening and closing with irregular frequency. Exploring the planet on food would be dangerous, but potentially rewarding if there is indeed a liquid ocean below the frozen surface.Cont.
>>33391626Lets get another pod setup, similar to the current one and then have it be a bit more hardened and pop it down on the weird spin planet for treasure hunting!
>>33391876I think that one's a definite no-go until much larger ship classes and more esoteric tech.
>>33391856Your pod quickly makes its way to the last planet, a small burning rock in an endless state of geological torment. The proximity to the gas giant makes its crust unstable, as thick geysers of water erupt and instantly freeze into the airless surface. The crust itself is in a constantly shifting state of burning and freezing, with flows of lava burning into the water below to create dense clouds of steam that quickly freeze into sheets of ice, which are again churned into the crust. There is water there, but the likelyhood of life is still faint, and the hostility is quite apparent. Even still, the planet appears to be rather rich with heavy metals, although you are not sure if it would exactly be worth the effort to get them, as the planet would likely fight you for every scrap.With your pod so close to a source of fuel, you would be able to top off with a quick low orbit run and prepare to send the pod out of system.>Plot a course to another system (write in)>Ask Coil about (write in)>Other
>>33392036>Investigate the belt
>>33392036>plot a course to FG-883 -- the arid planet rich in metalsScout out that place at least.>Ask Coil"How exactly do the Ceph receive Void Shards? When did they first learn to use them?" and stuff like >>33391740>>33391802Exactly. The lack of information will show it's just dogma to him that he's been taught. Not necessarily anything real that's all-powerful.
>>33392036What's the aprox range in terms of hexes on the map that we can jump?
>>33392111Since your drive makes the ship leap to infinite speed for a moment and then snaps it back to normal space, there is no actually range per jump, but for every lightyear added to the range of the jump, the more difficult it becomes to calculate. Safe range is 5 light years (5 hexes), after that you need to roll to end up in the right place, with the DC getting higher the farther away the target location is. Failed jump rolls could result in anything from ending up in the wrong spot, to jumping into a star, to exploding violently, to scattering the ship's mass across several light years. Every jump, regardless of if it's 50 light years or half a light hour, takes 1 unit of fuel. Your pod has a total of 10 units when fully fueled.So to get to FG-883, you could perform 2 jumps and not need to roll, or go the extra light year and roll to make it in 1 jump.
>>33392203Ooh.Okay maybe put off jumping and ask Coil that stuff first.
>>33392257agreed talk to coil asap
>>33392203I'd rather go to one of the two closeby uncharted(according to our map data) systems.
>>33392348I concur. The uncharted systems are less likely to have Union presence there to deal with.
>>33392036You send your pod on a low orbit flyby of the gas giant, collecting fuel for a jump out of the system. Meanwhile, you think you have some questions for Coil. Your speaker enters his small room and the two eyes facing you focus on your drone."Shall we fix the monitor now? It must be done quickly!""Irellivant, you have questions to answer."He shifts uneasily. "But, then we need to call for help."You ignore his half-hearted protest and ask your questions. "You have spoken multiple times of other beings. Who, and what are they?"Coil quickly strobes several bright colors. "They are everything! The planners that keep order throughout the universe! Everything is part of their plan, including you and me.""Have you ever seen one?" You ask. He quakes briefly at the question."Has the amoeba seen the ╠═╝▫■๑»«¶?" The translator breaks down. The word is likely the name of some local life form on his world with no translation. "They are beyond understanding. To know they are there at all is a blessing given to a rare few, and to feel their will a gift bestowed to even fewer."Interesting.>Ask further (write in)>Calculate your pod's jump to (write in)>Other
>>33392501>Ask"How exactly do the Ceph receive Void Shards? When did they first learn to use them?">>33392461That defeats the point. To scout out the Union.
>>33392501>calculate pod jumpset it to random walk, i want to see what we get.Additionally is this a "once jumped now it needs more fuel" kinda thing?
>>33392501>calculate a jump to JuricIt's within juuuust 5 hexes. And hopefully pretty interesting, to boot.
I thought this might be a shared interest for you guys.http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/528426.htmlhttp://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/39964.htmlhttp://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/66308.htmlhttp://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/79129.htmlhttp://tgchan.org/kusaba/graveyard/res/70355.html
>>33392532Scouting the Union isn't the only reason to scout generally.Due to limits of the speed of light and the cloaking device, our probe isn't likely to be detected if we're not dumb, but it is still a risk to consider.
>>33392551>random walkThat isn't even a proper term. You're just saying words.
>>33392556That's the one where all the "Heroic" units are named either after songs or bands right?Fucking MC is "Killer Queen" by Freddie Mercury, her right hand is "Scars of Yesterday" and HIS best friend is a fuckmassive beetle named Metallica right?
>>33392559Indeed, we are far too weak to risk tipping off the Union we're here just yet.
>>33392559That's why scouting a system where they don't have a ton of infrastructure and patrols established, namely in systems that haven't even been given names yet or colonized, only letters and numbers designations.
I've been if it would be possible to create a specialized servant race to help hide us while allowing to interact with other aliens races.
So, has it been confirmed that we DO in fact possess the best possible FTL out of all the known methods?As in, in every way? Sure the calculation of WHEN to stop is a problem, but can most likely be mitigated by making super-powered Thinkers born specifically for that purpose, but as far as maneuverability and fuel go, we have the best right?
>>33392572http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_walkeducate your self heathen.
>>33392722A proxy race doesn't seem like it would dodge many of the issues in introducing an advanced race to the Union.
>>33392501"And how did you come to this conclusion?"Coil lifts himself as upright as he can and starts on what you quickly recognize as a well memorized sermon. "Before we were us, there was the ocean of darkness. Tribes of the blind lived and died in unknown agony, until the Singing Stone fell. It wiped away the unclean, and of those that survived its judgment it bestowed itself!" You're not sure if you have hit a wall or if there is some hidden truth to the strange story, but it certainly wasn't the explanation you were hoping for. "As it gave us thought we learned to hear it, and serve it, until we had filled our ocean and could expand no further. It exploded into countless pieces, each one a whisper, each one a will to fulfill. They carried us away from our world, and give us the power to serve them!""But where do they come from?""I told you! The Singing Stone shattered itse-""That does not answer the question. Where did the stone come from?"Coil shimmies his form, breaking his proud posture. "From nothing!"Your speaker chitters its mandibles in frustration.>Ask another question (write in)>Plot a jump course to (write in)>Other
>>33392722anon go home you're drunk
>>33392743>maneuverabilityIt's actually the worst in that regard.>>33392756A proxy race for conducting wars is what I'm thinking.
>>33392743We're lacking in the maneuverability compartment. Union engines have us beat there, since they make their own gravity source and manipulate it freely rather than relying on planet-sized gravity sources for push/pull. Our drives also require a significant charge up time for use.Militarily, we're likely behind. Economically, we kick ass.
>>33392786Those damn tulaxian's always fighting and such, is a real shame they aren't civilized bugs like us hive members who serve the queen willing to talk of our problems instead of wiping out one of your worlds. Now about that trade agreement?
>>33392764>Ask another question Ask if there has been any other races that have wound up in this same situation with the stones. >Plot a jump course to M-662
>>33392764We should start constructing a docking pylon.
>>33392743From your study of the two FTL drives you have seen or heard of, yours is much better method of interstellar travel than the Warp drive, but at maneuvering the Gravity drive beats you. Yours is much, much cheaper however. The Slip drive appears to have no fuel requirements at all, and it can also propel a ship at tremendous speeds with ludicrous acceleration capabilities, so it actually seems better at the moment, although you're not sure how fast or accurate it is for interstellar travel.
>>33392764"And how did you become a pilot able to use the shard, and come to work for humans? I have heard humans consider Ceph secretive.">>33392827Yes. Seriously. Whose bright idea was expanding the hangar space when not a single bit of it was even occupied yet?
I actually still have interest in the Ice Planet, would it be possible to develop a "special" clutch of larva that would be focused on surviving the environment long enough to reproduce in large numbers (would have to make them cannibalistic) and have it deposited on this planet for the focus of a forced evolution to see if we can develop some specialization? Of course their development would have to be monitored and somewhat controlled ( a fail safe ) in order to smooth their integration if they develop any desirable traits.
>>33392830Exactly "How" Cheap?Like, produce one at the same theoretical price as a Tank, or supply convoy, or possibly a can of beans?If it really is fucking cheap, then that is a fucking WMD of bullshit proportions.>Sir! They just fired several fuckmillion torpedoes travelling at Ludicrous Speed! They don't even have warheads! Just stupidly powerful kinetic force!
>>33392878>larvawhat>reproducewhatWhat quest do you think you're in?
>>33392827This is the only construction I would consider it economical to attempt to cloak. Still probably prohibitively pricey.
>>33392886We went over this last week.The Gravity Drive required exotic matter called Canderon mined from rare stars.Blink Drive requires only hydrogen-3.
>>33392878I don't think they'd be able to breath with the lack of atmosphere. Even with the bacteria, they'd need some way of filtering the super-freezing waters for what's necessary to maintain respiratory function.
>>33392886>aiming projectiles that have no kinetic energy to impact with when they arrive at their destinationIf you just want to teleport-splat--You'd be destroying a Pod and a Thinker each time you blinked one to merge with an enemy ship?And there's always the possibility it just appears in a hallway instead of somewhere harmful. Then they get to dissect it.
>>33392932Well they would be worm like and live subsurface, mainly my idea was coming up with a way that terraforming might become a option in the future on less than hospitable places.
>>33392764"And how did such a thing come to be owned by Lyle?"Coil looks confused for a moment. "He is a part of the plan, even if he does not know it. I pilot the ship as are my orders. 'If they should be captured, cast them away to prevent their tainting.' But you are chosen by the plan as well! We are both servants of the plan!""So he does not know how it works?""For one of the blind hoards to know such a thing would be a grievous sin! No, he is simply a part of the plan, I do not know it what way."Your pod has finished its fueling and is quickly leaving the gas giant's orbit. Meanwhile your workers have, with the help of your excavators, formed the chambers of your new farms and your workers go to fertilize them. It will still take some time for them to grow, but your workforce is now free for other tasksAvailable construction options>Algae Farm – +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain>Hangar Expansion – Add on to current hangar facilities for your choice of +40 aero drone space, or +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Docking Pylon – Large spire designed to service the operation, construction and maintenance of larger FTL capable ships. Each Pylon holds 4 docking spaces for ship construction and maintenance. 100N 400M
>>33393016>>Docking Pylon – Large spire designed to service the operation, construction and maintenance of larger FTL capable ships. Each Pylon holds 4 docking spaces for ship construction and maintenance. 100N 400MWe need this seriously we need real FTL ships, not pods.
>>33392994I suddenly feel like playing UFO: Aftermath again.Even though that fucking game drowns me in rage.
>>33393016>>Docking Pylon – Large spire designed to service the operation, construction and maintenance of larger FTL capable ships. Each Pylon holds 4 docking spaces for ship construction and maintenance. 100N 400MAnd another 10 Farms?Also.>>33385108>Nutrient costs: 1112>5+200+100+144+3+40+14+8+90+9+80+33+76+30 = 832Where did the other 280N in upkeep go?
>>33393016>Docking Pylon – Large spire designed to service the operation, construction and maintenance of larger FTL capable ships. Each Pylon holds 4 docking spaces for ship construction and maintenance. 100N 400M
>>33393016>Docking Pylon – Large spire designed to service the operation, construction and maintenance of larger FTL capable ships. Each Pylon holds 4 docking spaces for ship construction and maintenance. 100N 400MSorry I haven't been around QD. Really enjoy the quest but be crazy busy
>>33393016>Docking pylonYour drones take advantage of the night to start construction. The tower will take much longer than you had initially anticipated due to the heat of summer limiting your outdoor activity.>Rush construction (will kill some workers during construction)>Limit building to nights (will take longer)>>33393038Plus your new ships, which I'm not sure if I should set up a different tracker for or include them in the Hive population.
>>33393109>>Rush construction (will kill some workers during construction)We can lay more. And upkeep is in the red anyway.
The talk on cloaking the planet got me thinking, would it be possible to "grow" a dyson sphere using photosynthesis, and then cloak that? The dyson sphere itself would cloak the light signature I would think. It would probably take forever and a day to grow, but the larger it got the faster it would happen.It would also make a great place to house the queen.
>>33393109>Limit building to nights (will take longer)
>>33393109>>Rush construction (will kill some workers during construction)
>>33393109>Rush construction (will kill some workers during construction)time is against us. Oh, btw, how is our 'guest'.
>>33393145Nothing about what you said made any sense at all. Are you mr. "larva" too?
>>33393145Why not just build a capital ship then
>>3339301620 farms and docking pylon
>>33393145That would practically make our Queen Eldritch God-tier man.Like the fucking Outsider or some shit.>Giant moving organism in space that feeds itself nutriets by absorbing the light from the fucking star in it's belly as it just eats planets to gain the metals inside them, all the while a singular entity rests inside the heart of the structure controlling every lifeform through an incalculably powerful omni-present hivemind.So of course we are going to end up doing one day.
>>33393176Do you know what a dyson sphere is?
>>33393179Yeah. 20 Farms too. All of the farms. All of them.
>>33393109>Rush constructionYour workers rush out, eager to prove themselves their mother.Your pod is ready on the outskirts of your system, just beyond the orbit of the unnamed gas giant>Jump to new system (write in)>Other
>>33393204>Jump to new system M-662
>>33393201Yes. Cloaking a megastructure that surrounds a star results in that star no longer being visible. That is, if possible, more conspicuous than not being invisible."grow using photosynthesis"?"cloak the light signature"? it would blot out the sun, if that's what he means, but what does that have to do with anything?
>>33393204>Jump to new system (the temperate planet)
>>33393204>jump to FG-883Must ships be at the edge of a system to Blink out?
>>33393258No, you're just already there.
>>33393267Did you stat up remote eggsac this week?
>>33393145Photosynthesis doesn't generate mass.
>>33393248I said "cloaking the light signature", because you'd still have to worry about cloaking the gravity signature of the star. Also, the curiosity from the disappearance of the star wouldn't matter, because hopefully with a structure that big and with that much energy, we might be able to transport the entire star with tachyons.I don't know what your problem with growing it is. That seems pretty straightforward.
>>33393325Well, hopefully there would be planets in that system.
>>33393331>light signature = gravity>he thinks you can cloak gravity fields>photosynthesis makes matter from nothing>he thinks you can FTL a fucking starNo.
>>33393344A Dyson 'Swarm' is more practical than a Sphere. Satellites as needed for whatever scale of energy is required for whatever you're trying to do with it all.
>>33393229>>33393251Fortunately these are the same thing.
>>33393204>M-662, the temperate planetYour pod charges its drive, and it will be ready momentarily.>Jump twice>Jump once (needs a roll)I think the dyson sphere crossed over into Lexx territory at some point.
>>33393364Light signature does not equal gravity. don't know why your saying that.The talk on cloaking gravity fields was from earlier in the thread.Photosynthesis doesn't make matter from nothing. you would need to canabalize a few planets.No fucking clue if you can ftl a star, but it would be real fucking cool if we could. I don't think you have the authority to say we can't when it comes to made up physics.>>33393368I just think it would be cooler to have a giant invisible deathstar.
Here's an idea.We should go to the dessert and arctic of our own planet first, learn how the florauna there deal with the heat/cold, and then go to a different planet.
>>33393420Is that any good? I've never heard of it until now.
>>33393405>Jump twiceNot really in a hurry.>>33393447Sound plan.
>>33393405>Jump twice>>33393447Good idea. While I don't think we'll improve our heat or cold resistances, finding new creatures that can switch between the two extremes might be pretty interesting
>>33393461Twice has been rocking it since the 70s man, how could you not know this?
>>33393532Shit, I feel so out of the loop.
>>33393515The possibility of increasing our heat resistance alone is worth it what with summer coming on.
>>33393550I thought we did vote to send a cloaked shuttle to investigate the southern equatorial hot lands and get samples of stuff.....
>>33393550The reason I don't think it'll improve is because it seems like something we would already have figured out and have blueprints for.But I honestly have no idea.
>>33393580Like here ish >>33390589Didn't think it was either/or with towing pod into orbit. One focus at a time I guess.
>>33393580We did an air survey. We can send out scouting teams later.
>>33389988Seriously we should probably at least disable the comms array on the satellite so it can't transmit or receive signals anymore. And disable all its sensors too.
>>33393580We sent the shuttle to do a basic fly by to investigate the rest of the planet.They didn't touch down anywhere or take samples.
>>33393638>>33393661That's... why I'm saying it. It didn't happen yet.
>>33393405Your pod makes the jump, flashing from one point to another with a simple thought. The space around you is a vast empty void with the target system shining dimly ahead. You charge up again and your view is replaced once more with a view of a vast, deep blue gas giant. At first you are not sure if your jump was accurate, but you quickly detect several more planets in the system, one of which holds a dense, breathable atmosphere.The giant is made mostly of nitrogen, a largely worthless ice giant that serves to protect the inner planets from wandering asteroids. Further in the system you find the lush world you had been looking for. It is somewhat small, with a slightly lower level of gravity than your hive. It is covered in a dark blue color mixed with a deep blueish green. The oceans glow on the night side with vast cultures of algae, and the dark blue jungles are spread far and wide across the planet. Its poles are covered in a dense ice cap, with each one flowing gradually into rivers of meltwater that flow into half-frozen river valleys, which in turn become deeply carved mountains and windswept grasslands.Farther beyond is a loosely organized asteroid belt, and sitting alone on the other side, like a fenced in animal is a single dwarf planet, barren and sun scorched."Three two, report, you said you saw something?""Supernova I think, short flash at six-six-zero, no contacts. False alarm.""Roger, return to patrol, move for low orbit pass over grid ten.""Roger Hope, Three two, over."You spot the craft as it moves in from the far side of the planet. A decent sized ship a bit more than a hundred meters in length. Several small craft are flying around it, departing from its belly and heading down to the planet. It's shaped like a metal mushroom, with the large shield cap at its bow and a shimmering silver ring to stern. A small ring covered in windows spins slowly near the shield cap, and its slender spine is covered in bulbous compartments
>>33393685Well now we know how close the union presence is to us
>>33393685>"Supernova I think, short flash at six-six-zero, no contacts. False alarm."I figured.Figures no cloaking tech could help to hide the Blink itself.
>>33393708>nowDude we already knew this system was being explored and inevitably colonized.>Uncharted red giant system, exploration assigned to USV Hope under Commander Richard Schneider
>>33393685Your cloaking field has already proven itself worth the investment, as your pod drifts into orbit around the planet, drifting within a thousand kilometers of the ship without detection. Still, you will need to vent the heat somewhat soon, although you guess you would be able to do that on the other side of the planet. For now though, they are none the wiser."Hope, I think I found a nice LZ, requesting permission to take a stroll.""Negative, sorry three two, we'll send in the Guppie to take samples, please designate.""Roger."After a short while you see a small shuttle emerge from one of the blocks of hull within the ship and it quickly descends down to a rather interesting collections of mountains and valleys, with a shore line covered in algae not far from it. You find yourself rather fond of their taste in landing zones.>Continue to monitor the USV Hope>Break line of sight and jump to a new location (write in)>Break line of sight and jump back to your home system>Other
>>33393756>Continue to monitor the USV Hope
>>33393756>>Continue to monitor the USV HopeOr>Break line of sight and jump to the uncharted blue star to the....Uh.What is the direction "upward" on the map called?anticoreward?The galactic core is in the 'downward' direction right?
>>33393783Up is Rimward, down is Coreward, Left is Spinward, right is Tailward.I should probably add a compass, actually.
>>33393756>>Continue to monitor the USV Hope
>>33393756>Continue to monitor the USV HopeThe irony is not lost on you as you watch the humans go about their duties. The shuttle quickly disappears below the clouds, although you spot it in a clearing after the mild weather passes by."This place is weird. We should get the lab down here stat. Who knows what's in this place.""You hear that?""Hear what? It's a jungle, shit man."The ship replies, you can see its radio laser tracking the shuttle bellow. "Roger, get a fence set up and we'll deploy the lab."A large cylindrical building drops from the Hope's belly, a series of small thrusters quickly set it on a landing course at it drops towards the planet. You can see more and more activity below.Back on your planet your shuttles have finished their tour of your world.>Investigate the desert>Investigate the equatorial badlands>Investigate the tundra>Investigate the swamps>Other>>33393824Yea, I'll try to do that now that you're in space.
>>33393900>>Investigate the equatorial badlandsit's sweltering time!Hello giant mushroom.
>>33393900>Investigate the equatorial badlands
>>33393900>"This place is weird. We should get the lab down here stat. Who knows what's in this place.">"You hear that?">"Hear what? It's a jungle, shit man."That sounds like the making of a good 'ol space horror story.>Investigate the equatorial badlands
I still wonder what they mean by "analog computer".
>>33393971Oh anon you card.
>>33393900Your shuttle loads up with a group of warriors and quickly takes off for the equator. The area is unbearably hot. Your shuttle lands near the edge of the badlands and fan out. The ground itself is baking, with several recent animals sizzling on the ground. As the last bit of sun ducks below the horizon you note that the clouds are much thinner here, and the air is much dryer. As if on cue as the sun disappears a number of animals emerge from various holes across the plains and move out along the badlands, crawling their thick, leathery hides along the ground with a slight hissing of burning skin. They are small, round creatures with a reflective white back and thick, charred black undersides. They each have two limbs, with their long tails quickly swishing back and forth, forcing their bodies along on their march. Each tail ends in a large claw, with what appears to be some kind of stinger in the middle. Their heads have no eyes, but are covered in long whiskers that twitch madeley at the ground before them.>Follow the migration>Let them be, it is too dangerous>Other
>>33394021>>Follow the migrationDanger? Better dissect it then
>>33394021>Follow the migration>Grab one of them for dissectionI almost typed Interrogation. I've been playing too much XCOM
>>33394053>interrogationHuh. You make a neat point.Our rookies are literally worth less than their stunstick equivalents.
>>33394021Your warriors move to follow the creatures. The ground of the badlands are baked, polished black stone. As smooth as glass and as hot as embers. Your warriors dance along the ground, the chitin of their feet slowly melting from the heat. It is a long and painful hike, but as the night goes on the ground cools enough to not cause damage. That or the nerves in your warriors' feet have died, you're not sure which.It takes until the middle of the night for the creatures to reach their destination. A seemingly endless wall, a quarter of a meter high, made of charred remains and shattered, melted stones. There are more of the creatures coming from the other side, and they quickly charge each other. The battle is furious, but surprisingly not lethal. Eventually the small war subsides, and the larger of the creatures begin stinging at the smaller in a systematic display of brutality. The smaller ones, after being stung, continue on their march opposite from where they came, sprinting in a lopsided, fumbling gait while the larger ones huddle near the small wall. You notice that their stingers are missing, firmly implanted within the backs of the smaller ones. Your warriors split up to follow the smaller sprinting creatures, and as they reach the edge of the badlands by daybreak they quickly burrow into the ground, their tails sticking up firmly like stalks of grass.At the equator, the sun parts the clouds and brings the ground to life with a crackling sizzle. Many of the large creatures are already dead, while the rest boil from the inside. Your notice the chitin of your warriors begin to crack from the heat and are quick to retrieve them, taking one of the corpses as a sample before you go.
>>33394170Ritualistic war? Some sort of mating ritual?
>>33394198It's probably not mating as we'd know it. But it probably has a reproductive purpose.
>>33394170With your warriors safe within your shuttle, and your sample taken you return to the hive. The badlands glow softly behind you as the ground becomes soft and half-melted, setting fire to the remains along the wall."Hey, check it out, what is that thing?""No idea, stay away from it though."You hear a strange howl from over the human's radio."Hope, we have contacts, repeat, multiple contacts."The howling increases, drowning out the human voices to the sound of rustling leaves and bellowing cries. It is abruptly silenced by a crack of thunder as you hear a CIP pistol split a tree."Hold your fire, fucking hold your fire!""Whatever they were, their gone now."
>>33394235Yes. Yessss.More suffering for humans!
>>33394235I bet 20 internet dollars that whatever those thing were are parasitic.
>>33394235Could just be aggressive monkey analogs. I'm stuck between hoping their colonization will be full of troubles, and fear that it wont.
>>33394276Based on... howling and bellowing cries?
>>33394314The answer is simple: We interrupt their colonization by blinking in a bunch of ships.
>>33394235>Next day2102N 2483MYour farms are closer to completion, with the layer of algae planted and slowly taking root. The foundation of the docking pylon has taken shape, with the struts slowly reaching to the sky. The summer heat is sweltering, however, and despite your efforts to keep your workers on short shifts, several have shown signs of heat stroke.On the jungle world your pod has dumped its excess heat on the far side of the planet from the Hope, and has resumed its post watching over them.>Continue to observe>Move to a new system (write in)>Other
>>33394356>>Continue to observe
>>33394356>>Continue to observeJuicy soap opera.When the farms are running we can lay another Spy Pod. Tune in on multiple systems.
>>33394356>Continue to observeNow I'm curious. That could've been us down there.
>>33394356Y'know, I wonder if those creatures from the sweltparty have any neat adaptations we can steal to aid our workers in hot conditions.
>>33394356>observeAlso, perhaps we should make some workers who can work in this heat?Some sort of drone utilizing heat-sink based physiology.Or just giant grubs.
>>33394414No, you think?>>33394419If we had that already in a form scalable down to mobile drones it would be an option. It has to be reverse engineered.
>>33394356provide cooling for Lyle.
>>33394440Is that dumbo still alive? I'm still waiting on those implants.
>>33394356"You ever get the feeling you're being watched?""Shut up, Al.""No, really I got the willies.""And I'm gonna beat them out of you if you don't help me carry this fucking thing.""This is Hope, ground team report.""Al has the willies, sir.""Roger that, I'll be sure to let Fleet know. Any sign of those contacts?""Negative. Kal got a glimpse of one though, said it looked like a pile of spiders.""Say again, ground team?""A pile of spiders, sir, all tied together, like a ball of limbs.""Roger ground team, keep us advised. Hope out.""It is finished. If we had some fuel we could repair the drive." The sound of Theseus catches you off guard as you listen to the human transmissions. You do wonder if it would be worth gaining a gravity drive, however. If you were to use the Canderon you took from the Clarke, you would be able to repair and reverse engineer the Union's FTL drive.>Offer to help repair the drive (grants Gravetics and Gravity Drive)>Do not>Other
I'd like to call for a community vote to rename our current planet, G-426, to the far more relatable name of 'Throne'.>>33394495>offer to helpAnd we should say that while he was busy doing the repairs, we were using our sniffers to investigate the countryside, and found the Canderon he needs.
>>33394495>Do notHe doesn't know we're holding out on him if we don't tell him since he doesn't know we have any and I'm not totally sold on him leaving with what he knows of us.ESPECIALLY the things he knows we know.
>>33394495>>Do not>spiderballsSamples, I demand samples
>>33394495>>>Do notEhhhhh. Sorry Theseus, but there's no way we're going to give a "guest" a means of escape.
>>33394495>"It is finished.Oh, that means we understand how their sensors and laser radio work and stuff?And can now determine if their sensor technologies are better than ours or something?
>>33394495"Yes, if only some survived the crash." You reply."Yes, if only."Your thinkers are hard at work uncovering the secrets of quantum calculations, but they can't help but gawk with interest at the new specimen.>Re Task several thinkers to dissect the sample.>Keep them working on Quantum Calculations>>33394567Better, it means you have a working understanding of the Quantum Power tap, although it requires Canderon in its production. It is a highly volatile power source capable of sustaining the most power hungry of ships. A well placed shot, or poorly timed malfunction will send the ship spiraling to its doom as it devours itself from the inside out, however.>>33394525This gave me a great laugh for some reason.
>>33394594>Keep them working on Quantum Calculations
>>33394594>retask several thinkers
>>33394594OHhh, right. "it" referred to... repairing the quantum power tap.Stupidly I thought he meant the Clarke at large project was finished already. Never mind me.>Re Task several thinkers to dissect the sample.
>>33394594If they want to dissect the new specimen sooner they will simply have to work harder to finish Quantum Calculations.
>>33394633Dude we need anything potentially giving heat resistance we can get to keep the hive efficient.>>33394594>retask
>>33394640An efficient hive means a happy Queen.
>>33394594>"Yes, if only some survived the crash." You reply.>"Yes, if only."Well if it isn't cheek and cheekier.
>>33394594>Re taskYou select a few of your thinkers and direct them to the smoldering corpse. A worker quickly moves over and begins the dissection as the thinkers pick at its every organ.You hear a pop. A short, wet crack as one of your workers goes dark. On your docking pylon your other workers are quick to remove the corpse, which has fused to the wall, as they carry more material to the top of the tower. An hour later and another worker grows dark, its head swollen from the heat and its skull splits with a crack of steam before it falls back, hitting the ground with a thud.throughout the day, a total of seven have been lost to the heat, but they make good progress on the pylon, and are more than willing to do their duty."Thing is cool!"Your dissection has gone quite quickly. The creature is rather simple in design, with a tail that appears to serve as both an ambush weapon and a method of reproduction, but what is most interesting is the set of hollow tubes and thin bones lining the tail, which radiates heat rather well.>New adaptation>Radiator tubes - these thick spines protruding from the back circulate warm blood near the lungs, where it is radiated as the drone exhales, greatly improving its performance in the heat, and mitigating thermal damage.I think that's it for tonight, don't think we have time for much else, but I'll try to stay for questions, feedback, and designs and the like.
>>33394759Equipping Wasps with the Cylotron Beam is fine right, it doesn't have recoil like a thorn launcher would?Wasps shooting freakin' particle beams from the sky.
>>33394802They have very little recoil, not enough to knock a wasp off balance at any rate, so yes, they can use them.They are great as snipers, or as support weapons, as they have a tendency to overheat with extended use.
>>33394759Have we made suicide bombers with those spore mind controlling things yet?
>>33394759>a tail that appears to serve as both an ambush weapon and a method of reproductionKnew it. They do the same thing bed bugs do when they fuck; the dicks are daggers that stab right through the female's abdomen.
>>33394827What?You have to research spores as a biological weapon first. That's still a research candidate.Better create a new, separate lab far away from the hive to do it in though.
>traumatic insemination Is there any other realm quite so magical?
>>33394759So, radiator tubes.> protruding from the backSo they're analogous to filter lungs, in their own way, because they protrude from the carapace and are an obvious weak point to attack. Blood everywhere.
>>33394759Is there any reason we shouldn't remove the sensors and communications array from the monitor satellite already?It's not like it uses either anymore. And this will prevent any shenanigans in case things turn sour with Theseus.
>>33394899It's possible that they can do remote diagnostics and Theseus didn't bother mucking with setting up a false OK for that.
>>33394909Doubtful it has any such oversight. Since his modification to automatically return "situation normal" didn't notice when the warheads were tampered with either.He also wouldn't want it to report to the Union if any genuinely accidental damage from a meteor or something hit it.So he would have prevented it from ever crying for help about anything.
>>33394827No, but controlling the spores for weapons would be in the bioweapons tech. I guess you could use the natural spores, but they would be much less reliable and unpredictable.>>33394846Similar, but the larger ones were female, and their tails contain small parasitic egg sacs that latch onto the male. Essentially, the females deliver the eggs, instead of the male delivering the sperm. Sorta like seahorses but more violent.>>33394877Actually they are made of the same material as the chitin, but yes, they are somewhat more fragile than the rest of the drone.>>33394899You can take it apart if you want, all it needs is the FTL communicator to transmit the ok back to the Union.
>>33394665In my head, Theseus is off-screen doing this.I actually cried from laughing so hard.
>>33394932How much extra at laying time will adding radiator tubes cost?
>>33394899Remember that Theseus considers the things he has learned more important than himself.We might be able to work out a deal where we broadcast what he's learned, and then we kill him.>>33394932A few questions:Can Queen put knowledge of languages into her DNA?How did we know the human language when we met Lee?How did spess warfare work between queens? Spaceship jousting?Oh my god. Spaceship jousting feudal Japanese space bugs.
>>33394985>a dealThat's not a deal.That defeats the whole point of terminating his programming.And he certainly wouldn't ever want to terminate unnecessarily if he wasn't absolutely sure his memories merged with his brother Theseuses.
>>33394985>How did we know the human language when we met Lee?Dude. Learning English was in the first goddamn thread.
>>333949574N, so +2 to upkeep.It will also help mitigate damage from thermal weapons, like flame throwers or incendiary rounds, which you are naturally vulnerable to due to your lack of sweat glands or other radiating properties. You can actually handle hot weather just fine, but this planet has a summer that is literally like an oven. Humidity through the roof with a temperature in the hundreds. The badlands during the day actually melt over into glass, which is what gives it its polished look.
>>33395000By "what he's learned" I was referring to solid research data. Not "Queen is hiding the Canderon from me. I know it. In other news..."
>>33395015Then he'd have to take Queen's word that we transmitted certain data with the Greater Theseus Collective.Does he look like a TI-83 calculator to you? He's not stupid.
>>33395026But he's also not one to go against deals made.Besides, he could use his own instruments to scan the transmitted data and ensure we upheld our end of the bargain.
>>33395026We could just ally with the AIs.It's not like we have contradicting goals specifically.
>>33395014Grand.Really gotta rebalance from having 93 Workers and 20 Haz-mat Workers (might've overbought) to having 10 Haz-mat workers, 80 Workers, and 30 Thermal Workers or something.The Thinkers think bioweapon research on the fungus we have a cure for is dangerous. But the end result is designed for us to still be immune to it at the end, yes? What kind of dangers would happen? Bypassing drone immunity?
>>33394985Yes.Your thinker in the pod your arrived in was surrounded by humans that were trying to open it up and look inside, it was able to use the few days to study and learn the language.Jousting at high speeds is a great attack and first strike strategy for attackers, while swarms of fighter drones and shorter range weapons for battles in orbit.Space combat typically has the attacker at a great advantage, as they can attack from any angle, know exactly where the enemy will be, and have the advantage of speed. If you don't want to keep the planet then just lobbing a few kinetic rounds off while on approach would be akin to raining nukes. Nukes have the advantage for smaller craft that can't pack as much punch in a railgun.
>>33395057Bioweapons are dangerous to research because it's the process of developing new, better and more deadly strains that act in more predictable and specific ways, such as not reproducing, or only causing hallucinations of a certain kind, or masking symptoms for as long as possible. Genetics is a finicky thing though, and you could end up spreading a horrible infection you don't have a cure for.Once you successfully make it you become immune though.
>>33395044You're not contradicting anything. He would have to be an idiot to make a deal where he can't verify that he's getting his end of it in the first place.He can obviously refuse stupidly unfair deals like that one. You can't just go "deal?" and expect him to agree to any ridiculous deal you want.
>>33395048They're competition for resources. They have no need for Nutrients, but they no doubt have a ravenous appetite for mining Metals to create more server ships and processing power.They're potential trading partners for information and tech trees, but the notion of "alliance" is a vacuous one when it comes to these factions. There will be times to act in concert for mutual self-interest, and then there will be...other times.
>>33395085Well no matter what happens we can always flood the lab with acid from the Excavators can't we?
>>33395087Except he CAN verify it.The Clarke still has communications systems. He has control of those. Hardwired control.We have control of our own communications systems (although to send these messages we might need to make more; trivial).If we send the research information, he can verify it with his own devices. Bam. Done.
>>33395119If a Unity server ship is in the system to receive the signals we're transmitting, and Theseus still has a radio to be able to pick up on transmissions, then quite simply, there is no killing him.He can just directly radio himself to Unity at large without any deals in the way.
>>33395133We are not limited to slower than light communications.
>>33395142Yes you are if you want Theseus to be able to eavesdrop and verify it. Follow the conversation.Theseus can't read tachyons.
>>33395103Before you get too runny in the shadows, keep in mind that the AIs, unlike the humans, did not leave a megaweapon hanging over our head, and have yet to do anything particularly untrustworthy.Sure there's some information control, but they're not stupid either. They just want to categorize everything. I'm sure they're not in the process of grey gooing all matter that they can use to make more robots yet. Anyways, we can understand hiveminds a bit more easily than backstabby governments.
>>Returning to monitor mode, stand by...So was this for dramatic effect, or was this going to happen imminently anyway if we hadn't acted quickly and had Theseus hack it?
>>33395148The Union has FTLcomms(tachyon or no, there is a method to detect what they transmit), and likely use uniform methods for their FTL communications. So the Clarke can talk to Union things.The Unity uses a Union-derived technology base. So we can build or alter the Clarke's FTL communications device to send a message to the most probable location of a Unity ship.
>>33395169I never said they were. That's just stupid.They'll want to mine the same planet we'll want to mine. I said competition for resources, not harbingers of an apocalypse.
>>33395198>. So we can build or alter the Clarke's FTL communications deviceNo you can't. It's quantum-entangled particles, a 1-to-1 connection and it was completely obliterated in the crash ANYWAY. QD said this.And besides, you can't eavesdrop on a quantum-entangled particle transmission, it doesn't cross the intervening space. It's impossible to verify that way.
>>33395187That was Theseus hacking it and tricking it into sending a report of normal, non-space faring insect people that are doing normal insect people things and totally not stealing all the nukes at that very moment.>>33395198Union uses Quantum communications. A "string" connects two points, and you can perform instantaneous communication between them, but the transmission along the string cannot be detected by any other device. Both ends of the string must be made together, and if one end is damaged then it can't be fixed. It's perfectly secure, but also expensive and limiting in its use.
>>33395198Have you read this quest at all?
>>33395242Oh, that sense of the word 'string'. As in connection. For some reason I kept reading it as in C strings for their names. That makes more sense.
But are the spiderballs a sentient gestalt intelligence?We must find out! And make sure the Hope classifies them as stonesmashers so they'll abandon the planet and allow us to colonize it instead.
>>33395242As I understand, advanced psy is a combination of medium (planetary range) plus ability to connect to any other advanced array, correct?Can we research medium+ (system-scale coverage)?
>>33395434That...hmm. That is kind of a niche that would be useful.But that reminds me.If we have an Advanced psionic relay on a remote planet, do we in addition need to create a 50N relay right next to it in order to talk to distant drones? Or will it cover the planet by itself?
>>33395434It would probably be difficult because it would be really powerful. Being able to coordinate fleet battles from command ships well clear of the battle area would make fleets significantly hard to disable.
remote eggsac when?
I wonder how effectively we could transition to full migratory fleet mode. Maybe fill modules with the electro-algae and set them up the orbits of planets to grow via the magnetism?