Your workers clamor to seal the gash in your hive punctured by the Void Shard you had experimented with just the other day. The ground just under the jungle has been annihilated entirely, leaving only a long scar in the ground and a line of trees and shrubs sliced in half by the expanding crystal. The artifact has since become dormant, and is now no more than half a meter across. Needless to say, this has slightly set back your construction progress.Coil has spent his time since the test in a fit of hysteria as the complex color patterns of his faith's teachings dances across his skin. The Taidaren twins, Huey and Dewy are pitched in some argument regarding their situation, and Lyle has been drifting in and out of consciousness as the mixture of heat and humidity tests his endurance. He is not the only one to have noticed it getting warmer. Each day seems to be hotter than the last, and your drones are starting to become sluggish in the sweltering heat of the jungle outside. By midday it is like a pressure cooker, and you have had to decrease surface patrols during the day.The Clarke’s hull is nearly repaired, and Theseus has laid out plans for the rest of the required repairs. With the hull patched up, you have taken note of the Union ship design philosophy. They place a heavy emphasis on survivability over maneuverability, but despite the heavy armor you have identified multiple vulnerabilities, specifically at the axis of the habitation ring, and the junction just aft of the forward shield cap.Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone
>>33233991>Current armory41 Thorn Launchers2 Thorn Cannons23 Sting Casters1 Rotary Stinger3 Fire Sprays1 Plasma Spray>Current resource reservesNutrients: 2577Metals: 1998>Hive population and upkeep cost Queen – 5Worker (75) – 150Warrior (25) – 100Thinker (24) – 72Speaker – 3Digger (10) – 40Refinery (2) – 14Sniffer (2) – 8Wasp (18) – 90Antenna (3) – 9Haz-mat Workers (20) – 80Shock Troops (3) – 33Nutrient costs: 604>IncomeNutrients: 1050Net: 446Hive Structure>Reservoir>General storage>Food storage>Advanced Laboratory>Infrastructure>Hangar facilities: Room for 20 Aero Drones and 10 Shuttles>Mine: +250 M per day (+25 M per digger)>Algae Farm: +1000 N per day, 10 Workers (1 worker per 100N)>Clarke Research Outpost>Hel’s Angel Prison Outpost
Lets see what comes out during the summer season eh
>>33234005Current Construction Projects>Hangar Expansion - +20 aero +10 shuttles. 50N 100M>Labyrinth – a complex network of tunnels and dead ends crisscrossing between your hive and outposts, providing your drones with safe, quick, and reliable transit between them while confusing and defending against enemy intruders.New Construction Options>Hangar Expansion – Add on to current hangar facilities for your choice of +40 aero drone space, or +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M>Docking Pylon – Large spire designed to service the operation, construction and maintenance of larger FTL capable ships. Each Pylon holds 4 docking spaces for ship construction and maintenance. 100N 400MShip Construction Options>ShuttleCost: 50N 150MSize: 30 MetersA small craft designed to transport goods, drones, or anything else that needs to move from one location to another. They are typically used only for transport to and from orbit, and can carry up to 25 medium sized drones at once, or a single large drone.Space PodCost: 20N 50MSize: 10 MetersSimilar to your own pod, the standard Space Pod is an organic lump of sensors and maneuvering thrusters equipped with basic radiation shielding and a Blink Drive. They have very little room for cargo, and typically only carry a thinker and enough rations to last the duration of a mission. Due to the focus on small size and low energy signature, they are incapable of escaping a planet’s atmosphere, but can easily be towed by a shuttle.
>>33234028Finished Research>Grape ShotThis strange local fruit bursts open violently when disturbed, hurling sharp barbs in all directions. By isolating and altering the naturally explosive properties you have been able to produce a potent, compact explosive charge that can be delivered in projectile form.>Fungal sporesThese spores infect and attack the bodies of nearly any life form and are astoundingly adaptive. They take root in and alter the behavior of the infected to assist in the spreading of the fungal spores to new locations.>Berry birdsThe animated seeds of the small jungle bush are capable of instinctively tracking and finding a suitable mate using complex chemical trails. By integrating these into new and more effective forms you have developed an effective medium ranged weapon system capable of homing in on a specified target species.>Cyclotron particle beamsThe Cyclotron uses a ring of superconductive magnetic coils to accelerate a bolt of particles to near light speeds. Each shot requires a short charging time, and the weapon itself is frail and prone to failure when damaged. It makes up for these failings by offering a high powered, accurate long range weapon.>Slip DriveA deceptively simple device attached to the enigmatic crystalline Void Shard. You are still no closer to understanding the crystal itself, and in fact are now less certain that it is even possible to do so, but your understanding of its use now permits you to attach the Slip Drive to any single ship, as well as gaze into the twisted void of No Space.
>>33234056Current research>Unity ComputerWhile the sensitive data has been purged and much of the wires overheated into a twisted pulp, there is still much to recover from the discarded computer.>Oxygen RecyclerMediumAn artificially engineered culture of bacteria designed to replenish a drone’s oxygen supply, letting it hold its breath for extended periods of time while removing the need for bulky air tanks or breathing tubes.Available Researchhttp://pastebin.com/aHpp1QVv
>>33234056I wonder.What would happen if a Thinker attempted to utilize the Void Shard? Could it? Would it be absolutely terrible at navigating it, being completely autistic number crunchers and without intuition?
Welp time to build more farms and fix the jungle above the crystal then
>>33234119Not that we should experiment with it again until we go into orbit of course.
>>3323416810 Farms, and the Docking Pylon.
>>33234102You feel a sharp ringing sensation in your mind as Theseus speaks to you. The process of translating digital signals to thought is still somewhat awkward, but he comes through clear enough as always. You are just surprised he is the one initiating the conversation this time."I have detected anomalous signals nearby, has anything unusual occurred?">Nothing at all.>Tell him about the Shard testing.>Other (write in)
>>33234203Nothing at allAnd got to be careful
>>33234203>>Tell him about the Shard testing.
>>33234102Lets do these.>Lyle’s Combat armorMediumNot as powerful or complex as the drop suit, the combat armor appears to be a delicate mix of survivability and combat capabilities, with many similarities to the Union environmental suit. It appears to contain a number of devices designed to be useful in the field. Research of the ocean spores has resulted in new fields of study.>Bioweapon ResearchMedium/ Very dangerousExperimentation and testing with new artificial strains of spores, as well as other engineered toxins would make it possible to produce tailor-made bioweapons that would be quick to spread and difficult to cure.
I agree. Stick that thing in a "Tech Hazard Pod" and fly it away from the hive with a warrior assigned to surveillance
Well gonna need to start researching mental defences now
>>33234195>the Docking Pylonwhy?>>33234203>Nothing at all.
>>33234203>Nothing at all
>>33234235May want >Ceph Cloaking FieldVery Slow (Fast with the aid of Coil)You think you have discovered the components of the ship that permits it to avoid detection. It is a complex system that observes and mimics forms of radiation, neutralizing sound, retaining heat, and bending light around the ship to render it nearly invisible. Before we send ships past orbit I think
>>33234203>Write-inHmm. Half-truth?"An incident with the Hel's Angel. We damaged its engines."
>>33234280he doesn't know about the angel.
>>33234203>Tell him about the Shard testing.>Other (write in)The surface temps has sky rocked. is this planet's orbit getting too close to the star? how hot can this planet get?
>>33234291He does. We told him earlier about it.
>>33234291Yes he does.He knows we saw it. We showed it to him, he named it to us. He just doesn't know we 'won'.Though Queen did ask, purely hypothetically, what Unity would do with Lyle Rogers in custody.
If we tell him about the angel, then we are gonna have to kill him.Everything we had before was negligible, but now we have tech that his kind would be willing to fight for.
Lets hope he doesn't figure out how to use the signal a gain some of the abilities as a thinker and control our troops
>>33234319Worth considering, not that we know for sure that they would fight for it, or use violence to get technology.They don't seem to have gotten it out of Lyle before, for instance.
>>33234291If he's smart he'll know that when we questioned very specifically about the vessel that there's a good chance we've come across it in some form.But all other kinds of details then that he doesn't know, which is also why I think it's best not to tell him anything.>>33234319Precisely.
>>33234319agreed He is still a prisoner not a ally
>>33234339The qm said that they would be drooling at a chance to study the crystal and maybe our way of communicating.
>>33234203Relatedly.We don't have the tech to trade for FTL secrets of gravetic materials and the gravity drive from Theseus.However, we are going to experiment with it to learn its secrets anyway, and if it's dangerous, well, for all we know the potential consequences could destroy us both or attract deadly Union attention, if their satellite in orbit is networked with them (don't reveal we learned this for sure from the Hel's Angel's pilot, only imply that we naturally assume it, being paranoid).In which case, does he have any advice on our research methods to ensure our mutual safety?
>>33234203>Nothing at all."No disturbances at all." You respond as you direct your workers in repairing the damage. Your excavators have been sent to seal it quickly, their massive maws quickly molding liquid stone over the wound and covering it with dirt.There is a short pause as power surges through the damaged sensor equipment. Your workers detect a diagnostic being run."I see. A sensor malfunction, perhaps. I apologize for the interruption.">>33234313Yes it is, the orbit is highly irregular, with extreme winters and summers. The dense atmosphere should mitigate the winter, but during the summer the mix of humidity and heat runs a risk of steaming your drones alive if they remain outside for too long.
>>33234365A prisoner with a ship that has comms and access to a destructive engine...
>>33234261We have a small window of opportunity while the satellite is blind, for the next week or two, to blink out of this system and attempt to colonize a new one.the Pod is nice and stealthy, but we may want to consider larger options.
>>33234371We know how to communicate with the crystal with basic techAnd we just made an adapter for the ai to use to talk usCrap
>>33234409Or we could get find a way to keep the satellite blind.
>>33234391Yea and half the players want orge quest the second comingTell to wait and disable stuff get out votedWhat can ya do?
>>33234330He can't. We never have to worry about them obey his commands because they are designed to obey only us.>>33234391With no fuel to use said engine and a satellite that is monitoring us.>>33234447Do you want the Union to investigate now?
>>33234390how long would it take to upgrade the queen herself with ornate combat grade armor and the most highest level of phonic power yield? it might be the key to operating that slip drive.
>>33234470Well the issue is now he's got regulatory control of the engines. The best we can do is ask him to research a lot of stuff until he dies and then disable comms shortly afterwards, while also researching how to control the engine itself so we can take care of it.
>>33234447And? You should have more than one plan, don't rely on just one. Redundancies.If we use the current method of blinding it, and thus letting them *know* it's blind, it's suspicious.Making the satellite 'hallucinate', hacking the live transmission feed to edit hive activity out of it will be very difficult if they designed it with any intelligence at all.Every required system update will mean a new hacking mission to reverse engineer the new software's updated DRM scheme or whatever, and if the update takes too long to be installed (hacked) that alone will raise suspicions, and get a real maintenance crew on our bulbous egglaying ass.
>>33234489Instead of blinding the satellite, we could reprogram it to THINK nothing of note is happening on the surface. That or alter the data feed from the sensors itself. The signal won't be tripped if the feed does not reach the computer itself.
>>33234508by laying a new queen.
>>33234419You should note that he is incapable of "hacking" you. The adapter translates his signals into recognizable thought and vice versa, but the your organic thinkers are simply too alien to him to attack with any effectiveness>>33234383Would you like to ask for info on Canderon that is less technical? As it stands, it's dangerous because you have no idea what to expect from it. It could be harmless, it could explode in the presence of irony, you just don't know at the moment.>>33234447You could ask a member of the Angel's crew about that if you wish.>>33234489You currently have all the Canderon from the Clarke, so you could still repair it if you wished.
>>33234508No it's not. If Queen can control the ship it's on, which she can when equipped with FTL relays anywhere in the universe, she can access the void shards the same way.>>33234390Can we bring up gravetics safety concerns like in >>33234383 ?
>>33234390Question: When engaging in warfare with other hives of are species what prevents other queens from hijacking are soldiers and Vice Versa?
>>33234534You've given me an uber bad idea.Theseus could probably hack the satellite for us. But... that would give him a satellite.Perhaps we could trade Theseus something for some programming knowledge?
>>33234553I thought we could cocoon ourselves and evolve that way.
>>33234513We don't know anything about how it operates.Sure that may been true when it figured we were useless to it purposes and it was in a destroyed drone with a faulty power source. Its changed it rules book when dealing with us cause now we are a threat
>>33234563I already thought of that, yes.But that has to wait on learning basic Union computing technology, which we are learning as we repair the Clarke. We're still progressing on that tech tree.Then we learn how to subvert Union computing technology.
>>33234556Yes, sure. Ask that.He doesn't know we took the warp rings for ourselves, and those contain Canderon?
>>33234102Hey, research Lyle's Drop Suit. Didn't it shoot MISSILES? And/or had that self-destruct button he almost pressed.haha time for explosives!(And lay 26 more Thinkers.)
>>33234562The drones can tell the difference between their mother and a strange queen. The thoughts of foreign queens would invoke natural hostility as a precaution against just such things. Queens that are related directly, however, could "inherit" drones, however, if they are familiar enough.>>33234563It would be attacking a mutual enemy, so he would likely be ok with such a proposal.>>33234615Correct. To your knowledge he does not know you have the Canderon, all he knows it that it is missing.
>>33234587Yes, that's what I've already said. The idea is we learn enough about it so that it's no longer a factor when dealing with potential Theseus hostility.Especially since we're not letting him leave the planet, he'll figure that out eventually.
>>33234683QD, can the queen upgrade herself or will she have to lay a new queen for it to have new upgrades on it?
>>33234587He was probably acting as a man waiting to die and wanted one last good time before going cause he figured there was no way for the bugs can keep him alive for long.Now it knows better and wont leave any trace for us.
>>33234390>Ask Theseus about Gravetic technology.>Ask about Canderon specifically.>Ask other (write in)
It's important to remember that the comms Theseus has access to are incapable of communicating with Unity, only Union.
>>33234718Why the hell would the queen update herself.She's not a bloody hero unit.The Throne Room is her armor. Best not to make her any heavier for workers to carry than she already is, for emergency relocation.
>>33234686>>33234587>>33234513You guys do realize the engines have no fuel.
>>33234718What upgrades would the queen even need?
>>33234736The union made the unityCommon tech base
>>33234735>>Ask Theseus about Gravetic technology.I guess we can ask, where would you obtain Canderon, and how dangerous is it to handle?
>>33234718All queens are independentSo bad idea right now
>>33234765Anon means that it has only non-FTL radio signals capability.IE, it only has the spy satellite in its range.
>>33234746>>33234755once we start to make colonies around this planet and on other planets in this system, an improved telepathy ability will be much more useful than having to rely on relay thinkers.
>>33234797Even otherwise, it'd STILL only be able to talk to the Union. Union FTL-comms work on entangled particles. One comm unit only talks to one other comm unit.
>>33234797I wonder what Theseus will do when the in range satellite is no longer deactivated.
>>33234797Does that mean he already has access to that spy sat?Cause the unity must know Union protocol and how to get around it
>>33234748He can still mess with us via black hole, but only if he's desperate, on his last legs as we try to shut him down.But once we understand the Clarke computer system, we may be able to take control of the dangerous systems, if it ever becomes necessary. Hopefully it won't, though.
>>33234819No it wont. It's exactly the same thing except that incorporating more stuff into the queen will probably make it more awkward for her to get around. That's it.Grafting a screwdriver into your wrist is not more useful than having a screwdriver.
>>33234819Yes, I'm sure we can just magically gain the ability to control any child drone in the entire universe without any psionic relays near the drone at all.No if it were that fucking easy no queen would have psionic relays in the first place.
>>33234735>Ask Theseus about Gravetics.Do you have anything specific you wish to ask? Other than how it is found or handled?>>33234748You have it in storage.>>33234797Indeed, in fact, the Clarke's FTL comm was destroyed in the crash, so it only has local radio communications, and those have been damaged extensively.
>>33234840But it's going to come to a head eventually.Since we don't want either Union or Unity to be as aware of us and our capabilities as Theseus is currently, we'll be keeping him here and when he figures that out I don't think he'll try to kill us with that because it'd be suicide via black hole, and he seems to be programmed to value knowledge too much to do that.But that's just something he's told us, of course.
the unity is still operating in Union space with fronts and hired agentsSo the must know how to work in there
>>33234878>>33234852......You didn't read QD's pastebin did you?Here. Look for your self.http://pastebin.com/3hWCdbhNplease read up on QD's official statement please.
>>33234912Well don't forget that with local communication access he'd be able to attempt contact with anyone below the atmosphere. That's a more pressing concern I believe, since that Dr. Will-be-food might be willing to keep pressing his luck with sample acquisition.
>>33234912>>33234840The engines require Canderon to do that and it has none.
>>33234905We are interested in researching the gravity. If we defeat a hostile Union ship and attempt to reverse engineer it from the scraps, how do we do so without blowing ourselves up?
>>33234956>Advanced: A powerful FTL communication system that can beam thoughts to any other advanced relay regardless of distance. (200N 250M)We have standalone radio antenna drones.We can have standalone FTL psionic relays.Laying a psionic relay that is kept in our hive near the Queen is indistinguishable from adding one to the Queen herself, except it's more flexible.
>>33234963Right. That's definitely a bit more pressing.
>>33234965It has a small black hole active right now though.That's where its quantum power tap is drawing from.It needs Canderon to do FTL things, but it doesn't need Canderon to blow up like that signal beacon did in thread 4.
>>33234956I did read that. What is written there provides no evidence that I can see that supports the argument that incorporating further relays into the queen herself is necessary, optimal, or, indeed, possible.
>>33234995Radio is not the same as Psionic unless our QD says so.
>>33234965The ships power generator is still active, that's the black hole. It's what's powering the ship right now. Canderon is for FTL.
>>33234963yepAnd no guarantee he give us warning
So how will we make human drones?There have been 5 ideas thrown out.Parasite-Self explanatory reallySpore-Same as parasiteHome grown-Making a drone based on what we learned from humansHybrid-try to figure out a way to make a human/drone by insemination.just using our credits- we found a heft amount of credits and could just, buy the info or spy.
>>33235038Just stop, man. You're only reinforcing the idea that namefags are all stupendously retarded.
>>33235031It seems we are not all on the same page here. I hope QD will give us a clarification about this. This is rather confusing to some degree.
>>33235045>>33235018That's the fucking reactor not the engines.
>>33235079It's not confusing if you're not an idiot.
>>33235079It's not confusing.You're confused.There's a difference.
>>33235038Whats your point?This is a civ quest and we need to build infrastructureWe don't need to turn the queen into a psi kaiju
>>33235038How about this then?>Advanced: A powerful FTL communication system that can beam thoughts to any other advanced relay regardless of distance. (200N 250M)>any other advanced relayThe wording makes stand-alone advanced FTL relays necessary or they'd be entirely and completely useless.
>>33235072Why not all of the above.
>>33235075Just stop anon. You're just only reinforcing the idea that anons are all assholes to anyone who doesn't think like they do.
>>33235079You stated>an improved telepathy ability will be much more useful than having to rely on relay thinkersNo it isn't. How in the world is it? You show no support, no example where relays are somehow less optimal than making the queen a relay.
>>33235089Apologies, I was the one you initially responded to and I was thinking about the reactor and not the engines. Theseus has control over engineering in general, so I must've lazily blanketed it together. Sorry for the confusion.
>>33234905As Theseus seems to return to his tasks you send your question."How extensive is your understanding of the humans' propulsion?""Extensive, as I had been piloting a ship prior to crashing. This ship is missing its supply of exotic matter, so I did not mention it before.""In that case, where would we be able to gather more?"Theseus pauses, briefly lost in thought. "That would be...difficult. The product used by human ships is a naturally stable form of exotic matter found in the cores of a select few stars. All of which reside within human space.">>33235038Any adaptation can be stand-alone. It's just a drone with only that adaptation. As it is, the advanced relay can connect to any other advanced relay that uses the same network.
>>33235113Hell QD set up the backstory that we aren't just one large hivemind for the whole species.Every queen is independent and have a hard limit to how much they can controlThe use of relays feed into the theme
>>33235140The thinker are likely faster to lay down, but can be knocked out by accidents or being attacked. I see it as the difference of a direct fiber optic cable between to computers and using a wifi signal router.
>>33235155Star mining!? Humans are sexy bastards.Although, any stars that likely contained that stuff exploded to his knowledge? Incredibly remote chance of maybe possibly finding some scattered about that way.
>>33235188>have a hard limit to on rangeFIFY
>>33235155Thank you, that is want I wanted to hear. I'll keep my peace now.
>>33235155"More human ships may come. Do you have advice for disabling a Union ship without destroying its Canderon supply, and how to study Canderon safely?"
>>33235214Here, how about a compromise?We lay an FTL Comm really really close/right next to the queen.That way you can be quiet.
>>33235155So humans provide ftl drives to vassal species and also own all sources of fuel.SmartNo wonder the squid wanted so badBreak the monopoly
>>33234746anti spore precautions?Ya know, incase someone wanders in with it.
>>33235215It sounds to me more like humans have some sort of exclusive technology that induces stars into developing this exotic matter so it can be mined.
>>33235188>tachyon psionic communication>range limit>>33235275It's very smart indeed. Fucking imperialist scumbags.
>>33235269That's not a compromise, that's what everyone but fluff wanted in the first place.
>>33235265He hasn't actually given us the name "Canderon" yet.
>>33235294Yes, but you have to tell him that it's a compromise otherwise he'll faff about way more than necessary.
>>33235286>>33235236I mean drone limit not range
>>33235275It occurs to me that so far our native FTL is the least rarified in terms of materials. No spooky crystals, no exotic matter found in stars, just good old fashioned space magic.
>>33235315There is no drone count limit though. Only range, except when enhanced by relays.We don't spawn more Overlords, we just build more farms.
>>33235269I can live with that.I can see it like a bio-techno 'Crown' the queen and put on as she needs to.>>33235215Star mining does sound so awesome, and it does explain at lease one of the visions we had last thread.
>>33235325At a certain point, it'll probably get impractical to control drones without Thinker support. Not really an issue though.
>>33235346>I can see it like a bio-techno 'Crown' the queen and put on as she needs to.fucking wut
>>33235322We don't know how the Unity's FTL functions.
>>33235322Actually, about that...You may want to reread http://pastebin.com/z4yZdEbK
>>33235155"Naturally stable...""Exotic matter, yes. It is unique in that it does not annihilate normal matter on contact, while also altering local gravity fields when subjected to enough energy.""And they mine these stars?""At the moment, no. Most Canderon is currently mined by Canian labor from their home star. They are too primitive to resist the mining efforts."Interesting. It seems the material is not as common as you had assumed."And if more Union ships arrive, is there a way to disable this?""Yes."you wait for a moment expectantly, but he doesn't seem to be willing to part with that bit free of charge.
>>33235275Those that mean the unity still use the humans ftl drives?And the reason they want the squid drive is to get around that major weakness? not just for knowledge?
>>33235308It was mention by him earlier when loaded himself into the computer.>>33235352We have no limit to bandwidth .
>>33235294>>33235311I bet you two are 'That guy' in any gaming group. Please turn the nastiness down or keep it to your self.
>>33235369Until we see evidence to the contrary, I'm assuming they use Union-style drives.
>>33235372>Canian labor from their home star. They are too primitive to resist the mining efforts.IMPERIALIST BASTARDShow shit do you have to be to have a species mine out their own god damned starholy fucking shit
>>33235372Huh so we really should keep our mouths shut about our ftl drives then
>>33235372Ah, well.Time to talk to Coil then.Wait, did we not get his hover tech tentacles as a research subject? Presumably the hovering is in those, and the cloaking is in the helmet.
>>33235370Tritium is babby FTL fuel. Way easier to get than impossible transdimensional artifacts or stuff found in only certain stars.
>>33235407How's this for evidence: All the stars you can get Canderon at are in Union space. We saw a Unity Server Ship FTL out of system.I guess it's possible that they buy Canderon through proxies, but I find that unlikely.
>>33235426Simple beat the shit out of them and put in a puppet government
>>33235431Damn straight nigga. They'll try to give us pop music and blankets with small pox just to get at our delicious nutrition fueled FTL.
>>33235372>Offer a trade to Theseus>Offer to repair the engines in exchange for Gravetic research boost (give him the Canderon to fuel the drive)>Ask for details on star mining (write in)>Other (write in)
>>33235361well the relay does require both metals and nutrients to make, so it can't be too much of a stretch to think it is a hybrid of biotech and machine? But that's just how i would envision how it would look, that's all.
>>33235462Nah. We'll risk it on our own.
>>33235462>Ask for details on star mining (write in)"How do the Canians mine their star?"
>>33235462Other? Ask about union procedures to aliens with own tech base
>>33235462I think it's time to get the black box.
>>33235448As near as I can tell, Canderon isn't actually consumed, just necessary for the FTL drive. It's entirely possible that the Unity have a slowly diminishing supply that they're forced to reuse. Or they scavenge it from other ships.
>>33235494That's a question for the black box really.Like, I guess. Did the Valen and the Ceph join the Union after it was the Union, or were they part of the Earth dominated empire? The way they ended up joining would give clues.
>>33235462>Other (write in)"How does Unity cope with the scarcity of Canderon?"
>>33235501Theseus stated that he knows of a system where his kind refuel.Odds are they mine something from gas giants, given what we saw in No Space.
>>33235372No wonder They have to expand at all cost to find new sourcesAnyone want to take a guess that our system has some?
>>33235380Bandwidth limit, no. Processing? Maybe. The queen can probably only direct so many projects at once, especially as they become more technical in nature. Thinkers mitigate this issue entirely, however.
>>33235507Nah we know in dry polite terms but how do they actually do in dirty terms?Coups? Blockades ? Runners teams to gank people? Bioweapons?
>>33235526See, I interpreted that consumption of a planet thing as being one of the Firsters. Why would witnessing a Unity Ship devouring a planet cause us pain and force us to back out?
>>33235557where does it say this?
>>33234102About research.One thing that isn't clear, is if the Union ship's sensors are better than our own sensor technology, which is key to calculations for the Blink Drive.Is there room for sensor improvement through reverse engineering?
>>33235557Anon every drone we have contributes to our processing ability however most of it is use to control the drones so we never really need to worth about running out of processing power.
>>33235631Or you know,we could do the whole random mutation experiment thing, were we use thinkers to facilitate generations of sensors to random evolve better stuff.
>>33235629Anon go home you're drunkNo, reread that vision sequence. There were 3 vision and you just conflated the 2nd and 3rd.Two were beings we remember meeting before. Lee and Theseus. The third we have no memory of, but odds are is someone we've met too. The end of our home planet, drawn there by extensive use of psionics.
>>33235631I would like to think so. I hope we can get that option of new research of improved sensors.
>>33235629Wasn't that the rest of our species being wiped outAnd its coming for us next?
>>33235669>>33235700wait where was this?how'd we know it was our species?
>>33235700>>33235669I thought it was the original "Gods" bringing Armageddon against an enemy.
>>33235717It's called pattern matching and inference and foreshadowing antagonists. You think those visions were pure chance?
You find a third, and see a strange sight. A planet...burning. Its crust being torn apart by something vast. You can feel it shift, shaping itself in space like liquid mercury, and it twists in your direction. You feel an unbearable pain run through your head and seal the doorway, the mote of light vanishing in a moment. The crystal retreats to its normal size with the sound of thunder as the air around it fills in the vacuum left behind, and the crystal grows silent.>>33235717
>>33235700>>33235669>Life>On a gas giant>Being possibleNot convinced.
>>33235462You try again, keeping your questions as far from technical as possible. "How do Canians mine the star if they are primitives?""They dig. Canians are plasma based life. Their home system of Wolf contains only their star. They inhabit the surface, and operate the mining stations. Wolf is one of the most Canderon rich stars ever detected by humans, and the star is just cool enough to permit chemical bonds that permit the formation of life.""But if it is so rare, how do they maintain their fleets?""It is not consumed, only used as a component in ship operation. It is still expensive, of course.""And what about more advanced races?""What about them?" He seems confused on the change in subject."How did the Ceph and others come to enter the Union?""Ah!" You sense a sting of humor from him. "They have not, but many choose to leave their governments to live under them.""Why?""Comfort. The Union offers many races luxuries they would not have otherwise. Most Ceph within the Union would suffer execution otherwise, I am sure they feel the situation is most agreeable by comparison.">>33235446Indeed, it's just Hydrogen-3, it's like using dirt for gas when your neighbor uses liquid platinum.>>33235631You can't tell until you research the Clarke. At the moment they are damaged, but Theseus would teach you the technology in return for helping to repair them.
>>33235750So how does this relate to our species?>>33235745
>>33235745Meh. It's more like a paranoid assumption.
>>33235762>Theseus would teach you the technology in return for helping to repair them.I fucking bet he would. Thinkers, I choose you!
>>33235790The alternative is that the visions are completely random and the fact that it instantly focused on Lee and Theseus is a complete coincidence.Coil said utilizing No Space is art, not science. The idea of it being coincidence is weaker than the paranoid inference.
>>33235838or it can be a reference to his god.It doesn't have to be about us.
>>33235836We already agreed to that deal yo. It's underway. And just about completely harmless.
>>33235762So they are killing there own star And the other species have become hermit kingdoms? And they dump the excess to the union?Or the AI not telling everything?
>>33235751...It wasn't the gas giant. That was the 2nd vision. 3rd had a crust. Seriously, come on.
>>33235859Eh, him having operational sensors will make things harder to hide from him, but he is on the ground past a mountain range and buried so I suppose it isn't that bad.
>>33235762Of course.Hey, time to ask Coil his biography and also how cloaking works and how we can duplicate his brain helmet technology.
>>33235879What do you guys think that the grey squids have something to do with the crystals?
>>33235859If we already agreed to it why is it posed as a possibility to select in the post?Because that would mean we're already repairing them without getting anything from Theseus?We can't logically have made that deal already, the other repair/knowledge exchange deal was for something else.
>>33235762This is all quite interesting, and better yet, you feel much more confident that the material won't suddenly obliterate your hive. As you move on to more pressing matters Theseus asks another question. "May I ask why you have such a sudden curiosity for this material? The supply did not survive the crash."What do you say?
>>33235881I'm not convince some space god have decide to exterminatus our race
>>33235922What? Grey squids?Do you mean the pale white but color-shifting Ceph, who as far as we know are the only ones to have void shards?Cuz yeah, I think they miiiight have something to do with them.
>>33235953Want to know if there is any danger that's all
>>33235953I wondered if it was similar to my species form of travel.
>>33235953"I want to get the engines running eventually, and wanted to know how to fuel them."True on all accounts.
>>33235967The cephs who lose color is it cause of use of the crystals and are now danger to the rest ofg the species?
>>33235953"The Clarke could possibly be useful if fully operational.>>33235980Holy shit /NO/
>>33235980NO NO NO
>>33236021Why exactly?We made it known that we are not from this planet.
>>33235953"I was curious, and wondering if it were possible to obtain more for study."
>>33235980That, no.No. We need to at least try to pretend we're native to this planet.And not EVER broach the issue of our FTL method.
>>33236056>No. We need to at least try to pretend we're native to this planet.But he knows we're not native. He said it the first time we talked.That said, no need to remind him we have our own FTL tech. It's like waving bacon in front of a caged dog.
>>33236044It invites questions about our form of travel. There's no reason to do that. For all he knows, we travelled through space in stasis for 1000 years.
>>33236056He already knows we're not native.
>>33235975No. That would be absurd to ask, if there ostensibly is no Canderon here.
>>33236081He's smart, he's deduced we have FTL seeing as we're non-native.
>>33235953"I had hoped the fuel would be more common, repairing it would prove useful.""To both of us." He says, and returns to his tasks.Coil is still quite excited, and is jiggling his boneless form around his cell in a small circle as he flashes various intricate patterns of deep purple and black.>Speak to coil>Speak to Lyle>Other (write in)
>>33236134>Speak to coil
>>33236134Speak to coil
>>33236134>>Speak to coilCoil is one kawaii-ass space squid I tell you what.
>>33236134>Speak to coilAre you okay there?
>>33236134>Speak to CoilAND >Speak to LyleAbout time we started talking to Lyle.
>>33236134Ask coil about colorless ceph
>>33236134I kind of want to tachyon Coil's shell, if you know what I mean.
>>33236128Deduced it, yes. No reason to even mention we're even slightly willing to talk about it at all ever.>>33236134Ask coil if the satellite can be altered to provide incorrect sensory data to obscure us for longer.And then speak to Lyle, it's been long enough I think.
>>33236163No, the silent treatment is fun. Keep it up.I have ideas for the next phase of Operation Lylebreaking.He's clearly immune to pain as a motivator, according to Unity experiences, but there are other ways.One is laying lots of tiny drones that crawl all over him and his cell
>>33236206He will just eat them
>>33236223They're acid-dissolving drones.
>>33236134>Otherwhy not both?
>>33236240He will try anyway somehow get out the bindings Then he will steal our tech to upgrade himself with our biotechPart man Part bug all badass
>>33236240Probably best not to provide him a way to kill himself.
>>33236134>>Speak to coilCoil-chan my boneless beau I must say your exquisite eloquence is the light of my hive, tell me more of your people and make my ovipositor tingle, smooch-smooch-smooch!
>>33236134"Coil." Your drone says as the door flexes open. You attempt to translate what he is chanting, but a good deal of it is unintelligible, and what you do translate is nonsensical."Coil!"He stops his mad flopping and faces two of his eyes in your direction before speaking through the speakers in his shell."Joyus occasion! To be chosen as a part of the plan is an honor of the highest order!""I have been wondering about something. I have heard that there are members of your kind that cannot change colors, is this true?" He flashes a reddish orange, striped with yellow."The Discarded! They have no place in the plan! They blaspheme by their existence! We should not waste time speaking of them.">>33236246Because you only have 1 speaker drone.
>>33236307Only the self-dissolving tier, not explosive tier.And I guess they can stay away from his mouth.>>33236438Okay. We won't then! (Don't press it guys.)Tell me. Do you know how your neural helmet functions? What about the cloaking field?
>>33236438what is this plan you speak of, and who spoke to you.
>>33236438>Because you only have 1 speaker drone.Ooooooh.Does that mean if we made more than 1 we could have multiple concurrent communications?
>>33236438Crap so they all get exposed to the crystalsAnd some don't survive the process intactAnd the crystals have an agendaSo we met another species
>>33236438"Has one ever held the Gift as we do?"
>>33236506You don't know that for sure.The Ceph believe there is a Plan, but this may simply be a distortion of the history of how they received the void shards, and there is no currently active dark intelligence at work.
>>33236438More info on the discarded
>>33236438"We are glad and honored. How did you first learn you were chosen?"
>>33236438Laying more speakers is nothing, we should make at least one more.
>>33236542So the ceph high priests can use the crystal like we can then?
>>33236599Who cares easier for everyone to focus on one conv at a time
>>33236438"And what would that be?""Celebration! We must contact home at once and share the news of our peoples' union!""Let us speak of other things first, for example, your shell. How does it function?"He seems confused. He wiggles his tentacles in frustration. "It lets us hear them, ask them for guidance. Why would you concern yourself with that when you can do this yourself?""Is that significant? To have this ability naturally?""Yes!" You could swear he glowed slightly with that statement.>Ask about the Discarded.>Ask about the plan.>Ask about the satellite.>Other (write in)
>>33236634Well for convenience as well, we can have speakers in multiple locations at once to avoid the need to move them around, though I also don't find it as something immediately pressing since we've only got such few characters to talk to at the moment. More important for the future than now, I think.
>>33236573No way man, let's keep him in an ecstatic mood while we can.>>33236664Ask about the plan.
>>33236664>Ask about the plan.>Ask about the satellite.
>>33236438Actually that's smartThe high priests dump the discarded onto the union keeping anyone knowledgeable about the crystal away from them while making them think they got a chance to get intelligence about the crystals>>33236664Huh so they have a pseudo hivemindMaybe we are just to strong
>>33236664>Ask about the plan.>Ask about the satellite.>Ask about the Discarded.in this order, one at a time.
>>33236664>Ask about the plan.
>>33236687Well said. That and we will be able to relay speech to other non hive beings that way when the time comes.
>>33236664>other"Home? It would be necessary to have detailed maps to avoid dangers."Getting him to help interpret navigational data could be gud.
>>33236838I still really want his DNA. Think we could have the thinkers study him without killing/harming him?
>>33236664>>Ask about the plan.>>Ask about the satellite
>>33236664So the crystals are a species if they need special tech to communicate and it was telling us what we wanted to know
>>33236819>when the time comes.Exactly.I really want to crack ceph skin so we can update speakers with that form of communication and possibly get adaptive camo for our warriors.
>>33236888Wasn't there a research bonus for analyzing a creature while it's alive or something?Can't we just do this now? It's not like Coil has any alternative appointments.
>>33236664Ask did the crystals uplift the ceph
>>33236664"You speak of a plan, what is it?"It is everything! The will of the universe made manifest, unknowable to those within." He jabs a tentacle in your direction. "but you are chosen as a part of it, you must be! This is why I am here, to guide you down the path, it is all clear now!" He almost hopes up and down, his body compressing under the weight of his shell like a sponge. You change the subject to hopefully calm him down."Then tell be about the satel--""The Monitor!" He begins to bound across the floor, hobbling over his tentacles like a treadmill, only to run into one of your warriors standing guard. "We must keep it in the dark! We don't have much time!""How much time, exactly?"He shakes, thinking to himself in a panic. "Days, a week at most!"You hear a beep from the machines of the Angel. The FTL comm device warms up, slowly churning in its place as it displays an incoming transmission.>Failed to update.>Transmit status update.The machine indicates the transmission is from the string labeled as "Broker".
>>33237015Talk to coil and lyle about broker?
>>33237015"Then explain cloaking technology, so we can tamper with it stealthily.""Also, you never spoke to Lyle's Broke yourself, did you?"
>>33237015The device becomes dormant again, but the transmission still sits on the display."Quickly, we must repair the ship to reach it in time! We cannot let them disrupt the plan!" Coil is still wiggling in the grasp of your warriors, oblivious to the transmission. With his comment you remember that he still does not know just how advanced you are, and that you could construct a shuttle rather quickly.
>>33237015Better have a chat with Lyle. Looks like his employer wants a word.
>>33237015That's not good. Can we make a shuttle to get up there quick if we don't have one already?
>>33237015So we have some options:- ignore the Broker. Let them assume Lyle is MIA. Captured or killed by either the bug natives, or a passing Unity ship. Lyle is probably considered expendable, deniable assets.- Ask Coil for help drafting up a fake status update to delay them. Unreliable, the broker always went through Lyle.- Admit we captured the Hel's Angel to Theseus, and ask for advice how to con this guy.
>>33237015Are we supposed to make a status update?If that's the case, it may be better to talk to Lyle before we try that, to prevent any you're-obviously-not-lyle shenanigans.>>33237104And I suppose we should make a shuttle to reach the satellite so Coil can do his tech-nav stuff.
>>33237104He doesn't need to know, still. We can let him believe that we're using the Angel on our mission.But he has to explain cloaking tech first. (so that we can have an invisible Shuttle)
>>33237173>If that's the case, it may be better to talk to Lyle before we try that, to prevent any you're-obviously-not-lyle shenanigans.That will do more harm than good, Lyle's a liar liar pants on fire who will sabotage us with fake advice that will reveal he's under coercion or something.or he won't help us at all, since he has no motivation to.
>>33237233Right.I suppose "Mission Ongoing" is sufficient, as is not answering at all.
>>33237104You quickly sit Coil back in his cell."there is still time." You say simply.>Ignore the transmission.>Respond to the transmission.>Speak to Lyle about. (write in)>Ask Coil about the details of cloaking technology.>Other (write in)
So why did we keep Lyle alive if we're never going to talk to the guy?
>>33237279>>Ask Coil about the details of cloaking technology.>>33237281Not 'never'.But we ought to research chemical influence on his brain first. At least some truth serum-like stuff.
>>33237279>Lyle you help us out here and we'll give you some air conditioning. >>33237281Inability to follow through with audacious plans? We really should get chatting with him.
>>33237104We need to buy time but not show our handIf the ai Communicates with sat it can send a message so to dangerous The broker can be ignored cause this is union protocol and they may send another team anyway so we cant do anything about it anywayAnd if lyle like this they must have an established codes to tell each other about situationsSo build more farms and destroy the existence of the airfield till we research the stealth tech is the best option
>>33237279>Respond to the transmission.
>>33237279>Ask Coil about the details of cloaking technology.
>>33237279>Speak to Lyle about.That transmission. He should know something about that.
>>33237279ask the union to help us hack the robot.
>>33237279>Speak to Lyle about."Your broker desires a status update. What's your status, Lyle?">Ask Coil about the details of cloaking technology.
>>33237419That's really cheeky.
>>33237416>the unionVery funny anon. It's a middleman Mr. Johnson.>>33237411He'll know how to trick us is what he'll know.
>Speak to Lyle about itBefore or after we ask him about it>Sorry about killing you and taking your limbs>nothing personal
>>33237311Talking to him beforehand as well is prudent.
>>33237419We pretty much have to say this now.
>>33237419It must be said.
>>33237279In my opinion, the Broker will probably already know something is wrong (because Lyle didn't transmit) unless we get a secret code of some sort from Lyle...which will either not happen, or be a distress call and make things worse.
>>33237419Ok, that is clever and cheeky, I like it. lets do it.
>>33237279>Ignore the transmission.
>>33237419You know, for the first time we talk to him with words this presents a wonderful first impression.
>>33237279"First, do you know how to operate your stealth device?""Of course.""Then teach this technology."Coil hesitates for a moment. "Well, I know how to operate it. The twins would be able to get it apart. I can get them to show you how to build it.""Good."You are surprised by how enthusiastic he is over helping you all of a sudden. You send him with some drones down to the twins' cell, while your speaker moves into the depths of your hive to where Lyle is held.The door flexes open and his head jerks up to look for it in vain. The room is still too dark for him to see. Your drone moves into the center of the small room. He can't see you, but you can tell he hears the scuttling the speaker. "We have received a transmission. They ask for your status. What is your status?"He offers a weary smile as he tries to adjust himself within the cocoon of chitin and stone. "Just hangin out." he says between labored breaths. Of all your guests, it appears humans have the most difficulty in hot and humid conditions such as this.What do you say?
>>33237752"Affirmative, will transmit."
>>33237752How often are you expected to give status updates?How long until they consider you MIA, and the contract passes to another?
>>33237752Very goodTemp to your liking Sir?We hope you have enjoyed your stay with us so far
>>332378142nd. Keep up the snark
>>33237752I second>>33237798After that mention that we want to obtain a contract with him.
>>33237814>>33237798>>33237832I'll support these.
Oh.OHHHHHHHHHHH.I got it.We can be Coil, responding to the FTL transmission in a panic, because Lyle has been incapacitated after being infected by a local fungus that is completely resistant to their medical treatments. He's dying and can't communicate.They might hesitate to send a new team, or they might just send the next crew with a lot more biohazard protections.
>>33237814Turn down the snark a little.
>>33237862Mite b cool.
>>33237862I doubt Lyle is very susceptible to disease.
>>33237832>After that mention that we want to obtain a contract with him.What? No. God no. What are you thinking?We aren't giving him freedom for anything. For every contract he might or might not succeed in for us, he could do a dozen for our enemies.He's a wildcard, and he's staying in our hand.
>>33237888Disease no.Parasitic fungus yes.
>>33237752Ask him what services he'd be willing to provide if we gave him some air con.
>>33237901And?As long as he keeps his mouth about us shut I don't really care.And he will keep quiet about us if we make that a part of the contract. (If Theseus is to be believed)
>>33237752a combo of these three>>33237814>>33237832>>33237862but just say he has been injured and in a regen tank or in the med bad under meds.
>>33237872the only thing that is getting turned down is THE WHAT!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7IlF8BLnM
>>33237822Unfortunately only "accidental snark" is in-character for inhuman alien queen.>>33238016>As long as he keeps his mouth about us shut I don't really care.He won't. You can't give him a mission that says "for the rest of your life never ever talk about what you seen here." He'd never take a GEAS as a real contract. He takes shadowruns.
>>33238016I'm simply not inclined to let all the biotech on his body walk away anon. Those implants must be worth some kind of cool research.
>>33238063I thought the point of that song was that Lil John is constantly turnt up and what will he turn down for? Nothing.As a side note I hate you.As a side side note you really missed a good rick roll opportunity.
>>33237814Very good SirTemp to you like Sir?Would you like refreshments Sir? Water with a meal perhaps?We have some local cuisine but managed to import some foreign delicacies like Clamari, Long pig and lizard?Please remember to tell all your friends about your stay at our fine resort SirAfter all it worked wonders on your weight Sir
>>33237752The room pulses with a soft red light as bioluminescent walls hum to life. Small veins carry streams of nutrients around the ceiling."Oh, now isn't this pretty. I'll have to remember to shoot whoever got the intel on you buggers.""Are you comfortable?"He starts to laugh and a crap in his side quickly stifles it."Cheeky bastards aren't ya? I've had worse, truth be told.""Your allies-""Employer, let's be honest here, I hate that fat fucker, but he pays nice.""Your employer is concerned for you. How long until they send a rescue?""Oh well, I bet they have a whole armada coming as we speak!" He licks his lips, his mouth is dry and his voice hoarse, but he just manages to be as abrasive as ever."Then they will not send more?""Oh who the hell knows? Depends on who else wants the money bad enough I guess. You know... you little talkin' one was worth twice the others, just thought you'd want to know."
>>33238107I had assumed that he has taken missions with both Unity and The Union that are top secret and he did not talk about those even under extreme torture.Is that right QuestDrone?
>>33238201Ignore the transmission then
>>33238201this one is worthless to us.
>>33238222According to Theseus, yes.
>>33238222He'll never admit what his mission was.But he wasn't ON a mission from us when he came here, and saw things he shouldn't see. We can't bind him about those in our own contract easily.>>33238201Curious. What exactly did they tell you about us?
>>33238201Well he's not giving information so how about we ask for a contractual service.
>>33237862>or they might just send the next crew with a lot more biohazard protections.Good, good, more technology coming to research!And since they'll probably be thinking the whole planet's crazy dangerous, we can sow surprise and fear when we use our warrior castes' guns to rip their suits. I mean, what's more scary than getting your haz-mat suit torn in a leper zone?
>>33238264No.God no.Ask him what he wants besides freedom, and what he can offer for it.
>>33238201"What kind of intel were you given?"
>>33238201I wonder if he wants water?
>>33238201>I'll have to remember to shoot whoever got the intel on you buggers.""Funny. We were thinking the same thing."
>>33238259I'm fairly sure we can given>>33238253Also I second your question.
>>33238201Trade him water and or cooling the room down for info.
>>33238201> I'll have to remember to shoot whoever got the intel on you buggers.I... I wonder if it'd be worth the risk to send him to assassinate that scientist we suspect.
>>33238368Nah.Not until we get more info.
>>33238368It's definitely not.The interest that would pique would only mean there would be more where that came from, even if it is him personally, which it may not be at all.
>>33238258He's talking about our Speaker drone. Apparently, it's worth twice as much as any of our other drones.We could easily hand over our Speaker and lay new ones. The Speaker can self-destruct, can't it?
>>33238201"What were you told of us?""All the wrong things, from what I can tell.""Such as?""That you were poor conversation. That part's true at least.""And what else?""Look, if they had a book on the subject it wouldn't pay so well to get samples."A small puddle of water fills from the capillaries in the floor. Your drone takes a quick drink from the makeshift bowl."Aw well fuck you too. I've played this game before, and it's got the same rules with every species. Except Valen, those fuckers are weird as hell."
>>33238457What do the Valen do?
>>33238457"Have other species threatened your ship before?"
>>33238457"Do you wish to skip to the end of this game then?"
>>33238418Only within range of the queen or a thinker.
>>33238457>A small puddle of water fills from the capillaries in the floor. Your drone takes a quick drink from the makeshift bowl.[cheekiness intensifies]"What do you have to offer? Short of leaving our hospitality."
>>33238491haThis would be good.
>>33238547Oh man I didn't even see that anon's meaning until I saw your reply and did a doubletake.Thirding then.
>>33238457We enter snark to snark combatChoose your weapon
>>33238457what makes the valen wierd?
>>33238572Forthing as well.
>>33238572>>33238547I thought it was pretty obvious. He seemed pretty pissed when our acid drones hit his ship.
>>33238457Your speaker looks back up to Lyle. "Why is your ship so precious?""I've had her for years, and that crazy slip n' slide of hers is faster than a bat out of hell. Gives a nasty headache though.""Have any others threatened your ship in the past?""Guy named Vadek. He should be hitting the atmosphere soon, actually... Are we gonna sit here and play twenty questions or are you gonna give me some of that water?">Let him drink, and ask more questions.>Let him drink and go for now.>Ask more questions.>Leave for now.
>>33238691>Let him drink and go for now.Kinda not getting anywhere. Just offer hm a contract already damn.
>>33238691>Let him drink, and ask;"Is Vadek as experienced as you are?"
>>33238691>Let him drink, and ask more questions.Is Vadek the one who is gonna replace you?
>>33238706>>33238709Pretty sure vadek is dead guys.
>>33238691>>Let him drink, and ask more questionsAsk about his contract, the Vale,n and Vadek.
>>33238691>"Guy named Vadek. He should be hitting the atmosphere soon, actually...He can't mean this atmosphere.He means he spaced him out the airlock recently, and his decaying orbit is leading his corpse to fall down into whatever planet it was and burn up?
>>33238725Why do you day that?
>>33238705My issue with a contract is this: for what? What mission would we even send him on?The other issue is his continuing to harass us with ever escalating forces at his disposal.
>>33238756He is saying he killed the bastard in outer space.
>>33238762There's also the issue that we have little to offer him. The Unity offered him his life and money, according to Theseus.
>>33238705No. Goddammit why the hell would we.>>33238691>Let him drink, and ask more questions."That depends on your answers. Who are Constantinople and Deep Song?
>>33238691>Let him drink, and ask more questions.Who or what is exactly is Vadek. What is he able to do, what do you think he'll have with him.We might need to lay some more warriors soon.
>>33238762>escalating forcesI don't think he will lead a troup, but maybe more tech.>>33238778We found a decent amount of credits recently.
>>33238762To be our agent in the human sector dealing with problems that threaten to reveal us.Like taking out his employer and stamping out any interest in this planet.
>>33238706>>33238709>>33238793Goddamn I know it's ambiguous phrasing in isolation but you have context, use your reasoning to help your reading comprehension.He was a torturer, whose corpse is probably falling into the atmosphere.
>>33238799You're also aware we'd need to give him his ship back in order for him to get anywhere?And his navigator, and the unreproducible ceph warp drive void crystals?The alternative to that being we give him a shuttle?No.
>>33238810>lyle making himself unemployed>you thinking you can kill informationCan't stop the signal, Mal.
>>33238811I took that to mean that he was a competing merc also under contract with Lyle who will be coming to this planet soon.
>>33238810That's super vague. From what we've heard, newly discovered species are a hot commodity; there really isn't discrete entities to wipe out, interest will remain.
>>33238691You take the water and hold it up to him. "Who is Vadek?" You ask as he drinks."He would be the bastard that couldn't stop eating his damn cheese sticks at the console.""Then you are quite protective of your ship.""Don't you get fucking snippy now.""It seems to be filled with interesting and fragile things."He bites at your speaker's claw. You pull away just in time, dropping what was left of the water."You have any idea how hard it was to get a hold of her? Don't you fuckin' touch her!"That felt like a nerve. Your speaker chitters its beak-like mandibles as Lyle struggles in his cocoon.>Leave him for now>Ask (write in)>Other
>>33238824Yeah I agree.NOT TO MENTION that now Coil, too, knows too much, in a far scarier way: He explicitly wants to blab to the high priesthood of the void that he's found a new species who can speak to the crystals naturally.Now Coil is a dear, sweet, naive layperson who thinks this is joyous and means BFFs 5eva, but the more savvy Ceph might interpret this entirely differently.
>>33238691>Let him drink and go for now.Lets go back to dealing with the spy sat
>>33238828I should watch Firefly.>>33238861Very well. Limiting the interest to exotic game hunters only as a deadly planet. Getting rid of interest from Govt. funded scientists.
>>33238919>Leave him for nowyou just lost your ship.Just to spite him.
>>33238919"Coil has decided to stay. What use is your ship without a navigator?"
>>33238942>Govt. funded scientists.Just because he works for the frontier expanse as a scientist, and just because we assume it's him that's bankrolling this expedition out of his own pocket for his pet research theories, doesn't really make him qualify as that.Since if it is him, it's more like a hobby of his not part of his job.
>>33238919>Leave him for now
>>33238931Yeah but religious zealot allies though.And if there is some sort of power play with the Ceph elite it would be interesting.
>>33238963Meant to have the speaker, say that.
The issue I have with hiring Lyle in general is that our circumstances are not actually parallel to Unity's.Unity was a known thing before Lyle was ever sent after them, they were at no risk for their nature as an FTL capable faction being revealed and specific intel was likely deemed low-risk. In our case, all intel is high-risk if leaked, and our nature as an advanced species isn't known. suspected maybe, but not known.Unity also operates from multiple semi-independent locations while we're bound to a single planet with relatively few resources to draw upon, for now.It makes sense that he doesn't sell out the Unity as his employers because it would bite him in the ass and he can't meaningfully screw them over because they're migratory. Even with his honor issue, we don't actually know how he feels about intel gained on the mission he was captured on, or how loyal he is to those mission parameters themselves.He's too risky to use.
>>33238963>>33238968Don't tell him this.It's better to just leave him worrying and going mad with what's said already.Let the uncertainty eat away at him.We have to keep the ship intact so we can get information out of him later with the threat over his head.
>>33238987>alliesI was saying that there's a chance they might interpret it entirely differently.As in, consider us dangerous rivals.
>>33238942By what, killing them? That's a good way to increase interest.
>>33238978Ah your right about that.I still think we need to deal with whoever sent Lyle.
>>33239033Yeah that's what I was saying earlier.Wetworks will only raise conspiracy theories.
>>33238987He is saying that he thinks that they could see us as an abomination, or heretics, an affront to their "Gods" because we can speak to their relics without their direct technological intervention.
>>33238919>>Leave him for nowSay nothing.Let him chew on that and have nightmares.
>>33238991Thank you for being here.
>>33239031Dangerous allies that are a part of their gods all knowing plan? All right then.Anyways I'd only consider meeting the Ceph once we had a psionic relay up and are significantly more powerful.(I really want a semi friendly race tbh)
>>33239151What you want and what is likely are very different things.High priesthoods seldom are willing to give up a monopoly on power they've held for...however long it is. Thousands of years probably.
>>33238991YepCant use guys like him in the great game till we are secureAnd we aint even close to being strong enough to mess around like that yet
>>33239179High priesthoods bent on psionic communion, no less. Very very suspect!
>>33238919>>Leave him for nowWe need to ask Coil if he knows anything about the FTLComm. Like who Constantinople and Deep Song could be?Everything went through Lyle, but Coil had access to the computer systems. I mean we have access to the FTLComm right now. Or was it locked in Lyle's private chambers?We could get advice from him on how to impersonate him impersonating Lyle or admitting that all the humans are dead and Lyle is still dying of Space Cordyceps tumors.
>>33239179There is also a chance they would worship us, like the litte squid, what we might have to worry about is the cursed ones.
QD, we still gonna research the 3 species' DNA to find out how to make food they can eat?Will we be able to research Ceph color-shifting skin?
>>33239179We don't even know if there IS a High Council. We don't know if Coil is dim witted an optimistic or highly eloquent for his species.The main thing is we don't know!Plus the "joining of our people" and the fact that it is "special" to be able to communicate without tech make me not as wary about your concerns. I mean it doesn't feel like they worship their tech. Just that they rely on it very heavily.
>>33239252I don't think Coil was worshiping us, he seemed more like he was happy to be the one responsible for finding another creature that is part of The Great Unknowable Plan, and wanted to inform his people of our species. That's the furthest thing from worship imaginable, bar desecration.
>>33238919Your speaker skitters through the door without a word, and the lights dim back into darkness."Hey! Hey get back here!"The door flexes shut and he sits in the dark muttering a string of curses.Coil is currently arguing with the twins, and has separated them on either side of him."Things scary! Why helping?""They are glorious creatures and it is our duty to help them fulfil their part in the plan by any means!""Plan dumb! Coil dumb! Getting eaten is bad plan!""Helpful things are not eaten.""Shut up.""You shut up!"The two climb over Coil and begin slapping at each other until Coil manages to hoist them into the air."If you help you won't be eaten!" He says, his colors pale and flustered."Fine fine.""Yes yes fine." They each say quickly. Neither appear very happy about the situation, but so long as they produce results they can complain all they want, especially since they are complaining to Coil.>Ask Coil about the FTL strings>Discuss ship construction>Other (write in)>>33239269Yes, and yes, although they have enough food for some time still, and it apears that anything Lyle can eat the Taidarens can eat. In fact, they are about as robust as you with regards to diet.
>>33239252That seems very very end game thinking for right now.
>>33239312>>Ask Coil about the FTL stringsAnd about delaying their employer
>>33239312>Coil is currently arguing with the twins, and has separated them on either side of him.Can he move much on his own?>Ask Coil about the FTL strings
>>33239312>Ask Coil about the FTL strings
>>33239347Seconding.Also, when can we construct a shuttle QD?
>>33239312Could we try control Coil like we would a drone? When we were experimenting with the Void Shards, Coil seemed to communicate with the Void Shards like our drones communicated with us. Perhaps we could establish a mental link for better communication.
>>33239312>Ask Coil about the FTL strings>Discuss ship constructionwe need to get up to that satilite ASAP and alter it.
>>33239417>constructI mean it's more like "lay", but we can do so at the end of the day before time skips forward, which will be soon.>>33239442While I am always for Science, he might consider that heretical if he realizes what we've done, and that will ruin his friendly mood.In fact I'm almost sure it would be heretical, because it would be taking on the role of They, providing answers to his asks for advice.
>>33239417Whenever we want. But they do give off small amounts of detectable radiation.
>>33239442I feel like this would be a bad idea for a multitude of reasons.The greatest of which is possibly pissing off the dark ones by stealing a member of their flock.
>>33239312Why would we discuss ship construction with him?Once we know how to make the cloaking device, Coil isn't needed except for the deactivation codes or whatever advice he has for tampering with the signal.But didn't he say using the codes again would be suspicious to the Union? What's his plan with the Monitor?
>>33239468>>33239417Didn't we have 2 colossi and 4 excavators from the last thread?
>>33239517What does that have to do with anything?
>>33239466It's got potential though. At first I thought the shell was a brain organizer and had tachyon functions, but it's possible they're connected. That hearing Them talk is a poetical way of describing tachyons playing a part in their thought process and intelligence.
>>33239532That is why we need to reverse engineer the helmet before we try mad experiments like that.
>>33239532Or it could be a different hive like mind.
>>33239530It wasn't listed on the population list
>>33239552Pity we don't have spares lying around.
>>33239312Your speaker enters the cell as the three finish their discussion. A warrior quickly pics Coil up and carries him down the hall."Help them, teach them how the cloaking device works!" He says as he turns the corner. Another two warriors escort them to the ship."This device communicates with others like it, yes?" You say as you point out the device."Yes.""Where are these locations?"Coil shimmies up to the screen and peers over the desk. "The Broker only speaks with Lyle... Constantinople, that's in Sagittarius, never been there. Oh, Deep Water, that's the Valen bank. Nice place.""Bank?""For money. They serve anyone, no questions asked. Lyle uses them for payments."Interesting. That does explain how Lyle can take contracts from so many.>Build shuttles (how many)>Build Pods (how many)>Build neither>Other>>33239363Without his floating harness he just scoots and flops along the ground. Your drones carried him to the cell.
>>33239580When we decide to meet the Ceph we could always ask for one.
>>33239598We should have 2 shuttles total.If we already have that then we should be fine.
>>33239580If we reverse engineer it, we could duplicate it.A model with the WiFi part ripped out of course. If he has to control a technological ship again, he can relay his requests through a Thinker.>>33239598>Deep WaterDeep Song or Deep Water?And a bank, huh. Intriguing.We could use his accounts for our own but we probably need a password, nut just being from this FTLComm address. Best not to touch anything yet.Sagittarius, the Commonwealth system. Wonder who he knows there.Build one shuttle and one Pod.
>>33239598We should give coil his shell back. He's proven his loyalty
>>33239664It's probably one of those fiddly things with a chance of failure.
>>33239678He doesn't need it.Guests get their mobility back on a need-to-have basis.
>>33239598>Build shuttles 3 for now>Build Pods 1 for nowthe shuttles can get us up to the satilie, the pod will help get us to the other worlds. Maybe the pods can scan the surfaces of the other habital worlds so we can get clued into what's waiting for us down there and where is the best places to start new colonies there.
>>33239664Yes, Deep Song, sorry.I have a lot of planets to keep track of.
>>33239694What's the difference between him being carried around by two warriors and him constantly being guarded by two warriors? No sarcasm I honestly can't think of one.
>>33239742The pod is a ball of sensors equipped with a Blink drive and some maneuvering thrusters, so yes, it can effectively scan any planet you put it in orbit of.>2 shuttles>1 pod>Y>N
>>33239817YP.S. Lay 26 Thinkers
>>33239817>YI'm assuming that pods sent outside of our FTL com range will have to follow fairly basic mission parameters? Ones a Thinker can carry out?Also, how self-destruct can we make them?
>>33239866That brings me to the next question of Advanced psionic relays.I hope they aren't very big, and that you can fit one on a Pod.
>>33239817You lay the foundations and your workers quickly begin assembling them. An assemblage of several simple drones combined into a unified whole.>>33239890They are decently large, but yes, you could have a pod carry a relay instead of a thinker.>Place a thinker in the pod>Build an advanced relay in the pod (200N 250M added to cost)
>>33239866Well, we could go all bio-acid pods on the inside to make them go boom.Possibly a very advanced flesh-eating microbe tailored to destroy just the pod.
>>33239890Doesn't the area psionic relays cover make it not necessary to carry them inside a pod?
>>33239941>Build an advanced relay in the pod (200N 250M added to cost)
>>33239941>Place a thinker in the pod
>>33239941Well we aren't sending the Pod anywhere...yet.Can we swap them easily later?
>>33239976A relay above orbit would let us direct space operations a lot better. Nice to have some sensors up there too. I'm ambivalent though.
>>33239941>Build an advanced relay in the pod (200N 250M added to cost)I suppose having a relay beyond our atmosphere will make some things later easier.
So, Pod + FTL relay + remote eggsac + cloaking device = future colony?Or maybe we need a bigger ship for cloaking.
>>33240061yea that's sounds right need a crew of warriors and drone thought
>>33240061Let's not get a rival queen up in here just yet.
>>33239954The advanced relay has unlimited range, basic relays that are default can cover many many miles, and the moderate relay, which is what your queen has, can control drones with a radius that can cover an entire planet at once. They work much like the Union FTL communications, but can connect to any other advanced relay, as opposed to only a single other.>>33239976Yes.>>33240061Well the cloaking device is optional, but yes I suppose that would work rather well. It would be largely defenseless at first though.
>>33240083Remote eggsacs are just extensions of our queen. Don't worry.
>>33240083nah no new queen involvedthe remote eggsac just a layer with no brains
>>33239941>>Build an advanced relay in the pod (200N 250M added to cost)
>>33240119When did we get that?
>>33240185at the start as basic tech
>>33240115This is why we gotta build the Docking Pylon. So we can get defense...ful.... FTL colony ships.That will still be stealthy, thanks to stolen Ceph technology.
>>33240185It's not on the drone builder sheet, but QD mentioned it was a thing, to silence the "lay a queen?" debates, so we don't have to ferry drones between planets from the homeworld.
>>33239941>Place an advanced relay in the pod.To be doubly clear, each advanced relay can only connect to other advanced relays on your network, so you would need one in your hive to connect all the others to yourself.>Lay new drones (what and how many?)>Don't lay new drones>>33240243Was planning on setting up the stats on that when it looked like you would be needing it soon, so probably will have it stated by next week.
>>33240295Lay 24 Thinkers25 Workers(build 10 Farms, they take forever to started paying Nutrients income and psionic relays are expensive)
>>33240212Goddamnit I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl over this.
>>33240295What>>33240342SaidAlso we should probably start phasing out the old worker drone models for heat resistant ones.
>>33240295advanced relay 1Drones 40Farms 10Warriors 2020 explosive ammo weapon grafts
>>33240342Seconding this. Plus another Advanced Relay in our base, when we can.
>>33240212Not stolen.Freely given.
>>33240295Current build order:>2 advanced relays>24 thinkers>25 workers>10 Algae farms>Y>N (write in)>>33240347So am I>>33240379You don't actually need to build the ammo mods. They just give an optional special attack ability to any drone with an applicable weapon graft, so when you deploy them you can choose to equipped them with one extra ammo type in addition to the standard armor piercing.
>>33240115I know it's possible to upgrade our queen, but can we have her enhance her own to the advanced stage?
>>33240483Add two more thinkers for a sold 50
>>33240521Oh man I wrote 24? Fuck.I did mean 26. Damn brain.Well 48 is a cool number too, it's not worth making a second Y/N vote.
>>33240483You stole those designs off of the... Starsector mod forums, didn't you?
we got more thinkers than warriorsNeed to bump the ratio of warriors up
>>33240483I'm curious, are the alt ammo types applicable for both Thorn and Sting weapons?
Did we ever lay any Excavator's? Because If we didn't we should. It would make construction go so much quicker.
>>33240555There's more for Thinkers to do than for Warriors.Warriors are there for when things go wrong, but Thinkers are always busy even in peacetime.Besides we may want Colossi instead. Or air drones. Or space fighters.
>>33240555We need to bump EVERYTHING UP!We also need to thoroughly explore this planet, prepare for invaders, prepare to colonize other planets, and obtain bio mechanical engineering.I'm excited.
Shit, page 10 warning!
Goddamn early thread arguments.They got to bump limit in the first 3 hours.Have to learn not to say nonessential things before bump limit.
>>33240664>>33240689Hmm, quite right. Another thread, QD?
>>33240483>2 advanced relays>24 thinkers>25 workers>10 farmsYou start laying your eggs, workers are quick to take them and with great care place them meticulously around your throne room. They tend to them to ensure they are at the perfect temperature and moisture at all times.>>33240538>48and there's that number again.>>33240553Many hours on google image search for bioships. Some guy named Hyrotrioskjan popped up and his stuff was too perfect to pass up. Literally a ship design for every intended ship class I had set up. It was like a sign.>>33240605You have 4, and they are boosting construction. You would have been done with the hangar expansion if not for the Crystal giving you an emergency skylight.This seems to be a good stopping point for this week. I'll stay till we 404 to answer questions, take feedback, ect.Already got it archived so no worries.
>>33240709Hangar expansion isn't really necessary when we haven't even started filling it at all anyway.Now Docking Pylon, that opens up whole new possibilities of ships to be statted.
>>33240700As luck would have it I have work in the morning. Still, same time next week, and maybe we can use up the end of this one for some planning. I try to take what you guys want to do and put it in the OP of the next one to save time.>>33240749True, but your workers can only be spread so thin. They are building spaceports and kilometer long tunnels in days, quite impressive when you think about it.The hangars will be done next thread though.
>>33240709Drone design?TechnicianOlfactory: Basic 0Acoustic: Advanced 2Psionic: Basic 0Radio: Advanced 6N 3MEM: Advanced 3N 2MMandible: None 0Blade: None 0Arms: Dex 1Legs: Endurance 1Carapace: Basic 0Acid glands: 1Size: MediumCost: 14NUpkeep: 7NTechnician Juniorditto to above, except:Size: SmallCost: 14N * .25 = 3NUpkeep: 1Nfor all those hard to reach places. (and sabotage and stealth). as small as you can make them.
>>33240709>You have 4Okay then. Note though you might want to add them to the Hive population list next time.How long until the Shuttles are hatched?
>>33240792maybe after we research biomech
>>33240792What is it's purpose?
>>33240811Bio what?">Biomechanical Engineering" is for manipulating other species, its name is rather misleading. It doesn't seem mechanical at all.
>>33240777I'd like whatever thinkers are free to start working on bio mechanical engineering.Also I'd like to thank you for running. These quests have become something to look forward to every Sunday.
>>33240825Manipulating and using human technology. Sensing what worker drones can't. We have no drones that have the Advanced electric sensing that allows precise voltage detection, and that's a niche where that's helpful.
>>33240709To be honest I expected our race and ships to be more similar to Species 8472 than Starship troopers bugs.Dem bioships.
>>33240827For more effectively doing what we do. I'd imagine we could make a colossus and a micro after we obtain it.
>>33240846We never did officially commit to new research subjects this thread.Do we not decide the exact breakdown of number of Thinkers per each subject anymore either?I'd like to try>Ion thrusters- because our current ability to maneuver in space is very, very limited. Nothing combat practical.>Drop Suit- it unlocks new research (missiles?)>The study of how various substances interact and influence other life forms has given way to the possibility of developing new and more effective methods of biological manipulation.And this. At least being able to make humans hallucinate horrible things like the fungus does would be a start.
>>33240809Crap, I could have sworn I added them to that list.Somebody actually crashed into a transformer while I was updating that, most of the data was recovered but I guess that little bit was deleted. Either way you are getting the construction bonus from them and I have them in the excel sheet.>>33240846Thank you, and same here. It's a blast running this for you guys.>>33240864Specifically for the large drone it seems like the closest thing I can think of.>>33240827Well that field of research sort of blurs the line between the two. It does what most races do with cybernetics, but with biology, so the term seemed fitting at the time.>>33240935I usually assume an even division of thinkers, unless you specify a priority, or one of them is fast enough so that only a few are needed.
>>33237862This still seems like a good plan.What's the explanation for why Coil didn't just panic and pilot the ship home though?I guess we gotta ask Coil what is 'home', and how he ended up working for Lyle.
I want a colossal drone, that carries tons of miniature drones inside of it......for harvesting?
>>33241007The bigger space ships are already that. You don't need to come up with excuses.Just build the Docking Pylon.
>>33240990The engines were still not fully functional. The Slip Drive was fine, but the connections used to control it and the more conventional thrusters were still damaged.>>33241007Like, a hollow large drone? Or do you mean a space ship?
>>33240990Not sure it's worth the risk. Pretending to be Lyle and sending a message might prevent anyone else coming for a while, but if there's a secret code or something we've messed up, we just made the Hel's Angle interesting to pursue.
>Ceph Cloaking FieldVery Slow (Fast with the aid of Coil)You think you have discovered the components of the ship that permits it to avoid detection. It is a complex system that observes and mimics forms of radiation, neutralizing sound, retaining heat, and bending light around the ship to render it nearly invisible.So this'll be unlocked next thread?>>33241047I meant the explanation within our master ruseman plan to deceive the Broker with the fungus plague story.
>>33241028I still can't wait till Lee comes back expecting us to be in the stone age, but already colonized that planet and working on the others! "That pocket lighter really helped. Thanks!" still we need to start looking for expatiation even on the home world.
>>33241054>Pretending to be Lyle and sending a message>LyleThat wasn't what that post said.It's a ruse that the humans and Lyle are all infected and dying/dead from Cordyceps, and that's why Lyle isn't answering with his secret codes, "Coil" is.I guess a little bit of truth would work, the engines got damaged and being repaired.
>>33241054I like the idea of Lyle being incapacitated and Coil having to answer for him.And because of the possibly infectious nature of the fungus they don't want to fly off and possibly spread the fungus.
>>33241054Well it's already the stereotype plot hook for almost every alien horror movie ever.>>33241062Yes.
>>33241047>Like, a hollow large drone?Exactly that. I guess the miniature drones could go out and harvest any organic life in the area to return to the large drone so it could, internally, make more miniature drones, is that viable?
>>33241112The trouble is, would Lyle or Coil or any of their crew be altruistic enough to quarantine themselves? Would the Broker even believe it?"Engine damage in fight with locals" would be safer than quarantine, though that's a possibility too.
>>33241131But what is the end goal?To make more small drones?To make an area uninhabitable?
>>33241120That's why it's so great.
>>33241131That sounds incredibly nonviable.And completely pointless.We don't "harvest any organic life" why the hell would we
>>33240850Why not just make an improved sniffer for the improved sensing purpose? Why would we need a special drone to use their tech when we can just reverse engineer it and grow are own version or wait and make body snatching parasites?
>>33241093Not sure why the Broker would give a shit.
>>33241136"Help please send help the humans are exploding into spores and the engines aren't working, the twins were caught in the jungle, no one left to fix, I'm locked up in this room I can hear them outside trying to get in, I'm all that's left, HELP"
>>33241188>give a shitThe point is to not make it obviously a lie, since he's familiar with Lyle. His shit giving quotient is orthogonal.
>>33241207How about we not ask for help?Let's just say that the twins are working on repairs but it is going slowly.
>>33241161>>33241154As a weapon to attack organic life forms? In small cramped areas, like cities or space ships. Imagine a humans face when an armada of tiny bugs are swarming down a cramped hallway and eating their friends faces off. If they bring the resources back to the larger drone, they'd be able to replenish their squished ranks.
>>33241182Having a tech drone might be useful when we start playing with electricity more.>>33241207And then the shadowy individuals interested in obtaining samples of a newly found semi-intelligent species are also interested in mind control spores.>>33241228I'm still not sure what the point of making excuses to the Broker is. What are people actually trying to accomplish by this? What events are they trying to prevent/encourage?
>>33241246If you want to swarm them with tiny bugs do that.Bigger bugs are better at that anyway.The "have a big one" aspect however is incredibly silly.
>>33241246You're thinking like a horror movie. There are much more effective ways to destroy cramped environments.Like the linear whatchamacallit.
Should we build a miniature done that only purpose in life is to burrow into the ground and dies by exploding?
>>33241274I guess the point is to- explain Lyle's lack of timely status update- give the impression that Lyle is still on the mission, if set back a great deal- the set back was not caused by the cunning or technology of the local sapient raceSo I guess, he's infected and incapacitated and they're still trying to revive him, would be the correct cover story.
>>33241274Prevent more people being sent to our planet and encourage patience in the broker.
>>33241274The humans are exploding! = Mind control!
>>33241311Maybe. Not yet.>>33241274Why would we play with electricity?
>>33241348We're doing that right now with the Clarke.We don't have any need for Union technology.... except when we're trying to reverse engineer it, take it apart, sabotage it, modify it, subvert it, etc.
>>33241341>I can hear them outside trying to get in, I'm all that's left, HELPSounds like zombies to me. Or the primitive bugs successfully overwhelming the ship's defenses while deadly exploding spore infections happen. Either way, too complicated, too /interesting/.
>>33241182>Why not just make an improved snifferThere's an idea.Spy FlyOlfactory: Advanced 2Acoustic: Advanced 2Psionic: Basic 0Radio: Basic 1EM: Basic 1Mandible: None 0Blade: None 0Arms: Dex 1Legs: Sprint 1Wings: Medium 2Carapace: Basic 0Acid glands: 1Size: SmallCost: 11N * .25 = 2NUpkeep: 1NStealthy, as tiny as possible.
>>33241286I do want to swarm them with tiny bugs, but to keep laying a bunch of tiny bugs just for them to get squished and cost more resources to lay didn't seem like a good idea. So, I thought "Hey, let's make them self-replicate"That was the whole point of the larger bug, to be able to reproduce more smaller ones.
>>33241381I am thinking more in line of 'Infesting' Union ships, much like how the Zerg do.
>>33241423There is no self-replication.There is only the Mother.
>>33241408Let's wait till we get micro. Or whatever the next size down is.
>>33241423We do have seeker drone thingies based off the bird-fruit. The pods generate their own birds.>>33241435Hopefully cleaner than that. Getting bio junk all on up in those systems is uncouth. Also suspicious.
>>33241423You act like we aren't self-sustaining with resources already. And can remain so, with sufficient foresight.If anything that is *less* efficient with resources, because you are paying the upkeep on yet another remote eggsac.
>>33241297You mean the linear particle accelerator?It's quite powerful, but incredibly bulky. The cyclotron is actually a more advanced form, but you reverse engineered it first and then quickly came up with the more simple, raw power focused version. If the cyclotron is a crowbar, the Linear accelerator is a sledge hammer.It is also capable of firing a sustained beam, instead of just a bolt since it doesn't need to charge before firing.
>>33241516Yes I do.The only reason>>33241423Would be something we would use is if we wanted to keep some structures intact and chemical warfare a la fungus is much more effective at that.
>>33241499>If anything that is *less* efficient with resources, because you are paying the upkeep on yet another remote eggsac.Bullshit, if anything you put a dormant feature in the larger drone and then when it comes time to swarm shit, wake the fucker up and it will sustain itself with the resources it acquires.
>>33241592Have you noticed how our drones don't eat anything and everything in sight already?Why do you think that is?Why would we want to?>dormant featureWhat are you even talking about?
>>33241592But why swarm?
>>33241592Consider the hive to be a scaled-up version of this entire scenario.The Queen is the mother unit, the worker drones are the miniatures.They go out and eat things and bring it back to make more of themselves via her.Only they mostly eat from farms underground because it's easier and not wasting time eating things that are harder to digest.There. Your idea is implemented. You can stop now.
>>33241486Pretty sure we're not gonna get that size.And if we do, I doubt we'd be able to keep all the advanced senses.
>>33241274But, why build the Sense/tech combo? I can get around having better senses, but why not just build a better sniffer for that? Also, I don't see the point of having a special drone for tech when from what we've seen are workers are capable of handling human tech well.
>>33241516Hey QD!I've got some friends who are artists and I'm going to pester them to do some art for this quest. Could you post something on twitter about how everything looks or something?
>>33241679It's there for electricity Voltage sensing, which no model of drone has so far, and which has useful applications when repairing human technology, or investigating it, or sabotaging it, or doing anything with it.It could just be a worker drone with voltage legs, if you want to get down to basics.
>>33241679Building a better Sniffer or this thing is pretty interchangeable. Any engineer/technician drone should have a more robust frame than a sniffer though. Something capable of labor.>>33241701And basically this.
>>33241682Heh, weird, I kinda drew up a 3d model of a worker in zBrush the other day for practice. Let me screenshot it.
>>33241725Awesome!I'd still like QDs description though just so what my friends make is their interpretation.
>>33241682I try not to post when I don't need to to avoid spamming the directory, but you can message me any time and I'll respond as quickly as possible.As a general rule, I have tried to rip things that are common in the quest from things I can find pictures of, like a Heighliner and Oblivion drones for Unity.>>33241725>>33241772I'd love to see them, especially interpretations as they always bring something new and interesting to the table.
>>33241772>>33241725Well, here's my take on the workers.
>>33241809what happened to your faaaaaace
>>33241822I DID THING FOR QUEEEEN
>>33241679The sniffer has to fly and be mobile out in the field for patrol, for scouting, for being there as extra eyes-and-ears in battle to help other drones' awareness.It's useful to have some of those senses, but not all of them, for repair drones. They don't really need a keen sense of smell. They might need to be able to use echolocation in enclosed dark spaces, and they need to be able to detect radiation at the least, if not be able to talk radio waves.
>>33241809Oh, neat. I like it.Are those things on the back the antennae? And what's the backpack?
>>33241860Yeah, the back ones are antennae, and the 'backpack' is part gut, part rucksack I guess. Didn't put much thought except 'MAKE SCULPT FOR QUEEN'
>>33241714Why not just build single purpose drone's like the Antenna into the hives Infrastructure for at home Senses and then use the sniffer on away issues?
>>33241929I assume the labs have all sorts of instrumentation built in, but that's of limited use on scavenging operations. It's a pretty small niche to design a drone for though, I'll admit.Maybe we'll make a hacking drone sometime. Need more tech research.
>>33241929The point is to have these senses in alien places without Infrastructure, like the Clarke, or when we get to the monitor satellite.Some of them are also very short range, not like radio senses. Like voltage sensing for repair work, and echolocation for navigation.
>>33241975The thinkers already handle that I believe.
>>33241996I can see that point. I just believe having a fly with that ability is more useful as it can use those ability in the locations the land based drone can and the areas it can not.
>>33241885Oh, so it's the abdomen? Neat, I never imagined it setup like that. Very alien.>>33241772I kinda pictured they would have the abdomen as a counterweight with the thorax hunched over and the arms pulled in close, almost Igor-like. The warriors would be more upright, almost like a centaure to give it a better vantage point for combat and its abdomen would be more stubby to help with its balance. Endurance legs would be set like a lizard, with the hips out to the side, while the sprint legs would be set up with the legs more to the front and back.Four eyes each, two are small, beady ocular eyes set in the front like a jumping spider, and the other two are larger compound eyes set on the sides. Likewise, four digits on each limb curled around a circular wrist. They are slightly reddish due to their diet. Wings are set up with a set of interlocking chitin that has a set of wings that work like propellers and push air against the airfoils. Thinkers would look like big, black lady bugs, but with noodly legs that can't move, but can be plugged into other drones. More like a living laptop.That's just my take, feel free to experiment with new looks and shapes.
>>33242040Yeah all we need is a worker to plug in the Space USB port and the Thinkers can roll to hack.After Theseus teaches us human computers anyway.
I'd like to get ion thrusters sometime soon so that we can make a feasible large drone troop transport. Shuttles are fine and all, but not really suited to combat operations.Of course, I guess we could use paratroopers and not bother with field landing capabilities.
>>33242092Thinkers are... moe.
>>33242089I don't see much need for flight in the enclosed spaces that technology happens in, on ships, in satellites, in bases...
>>33242113I should warn you that you still won't be all that proficient at hacking. It's like the polar opposite of your natural instincts, so it would be quite difficult.You can sort through a genome in an afternoon, but sending an email is a big deal, essentially.
>>33242174We need to kidnap some human's tech-savy child to help us take over the universe.
>>33242191I wonder if Lee has kids...
>>33242174>You can sort through a genome in an afternoon, but sending an email is a big deal, essentially.That's pretty kawaii.Okay, good. We need Theseus as an ally if we want to do the advanced stuff. It's in our mutual interest to keep the Union blind.
>>33242216Yeah, "Ally." Ehehehehe!
>>33242203Not ones he knows, probably! The life of a spaceman is an adventurous one.
>>33242143I don't see much need for it being a land based creature.
>>33242336There's a complexity maximum per drone, and wings cost extra nutrients for no benefit for something that works indoors, rather than traveling around at high speed.
>>33241809It's like an unholy mix of insect, centaur, and RC car!>>33242174How is it against our natural instincts? Would we have an easier time building/stealing a computer and getting a worker to hunch over it going tap tap tap instead of mind interfacing?
>>33242384>RC caroh man, now I'm picturing workers scuttling to and fro, saying 'vrooooom' like autistic kids while they zip away.
>>33242384I mean that the way the computer is designed it would feel unintuitive and obtuse to try and navigate it, like trying to tell your grandpa that to turn off the computer you click the start button. The same reason Theseus can't hack into your network with the link, the most damage he can do is cause a mild headache, but that's essentially just making a vuvuzela sound in your ear.Either way, you can still hack, you just won't be all that great at it.
>>33242376What's the complexity maximum per drone? because it be nice to no the limit for designs.
>>33242492>>33242376Not really a max, it just gets more expensive and bulky until it becomes unfeasible to make a lot of them.
>>33242514I thought you said that shoving enough things into one drone making it more and more complex would cause potential genetic errors, and we'd have to roll for not having deformed children when they hatched or something.
Oh god, now I can't stop imagining that our race is just space-insect-instead-of-flamboyant-lobster space pirates.TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBEEEEESSSSSSSSSS
>>33242572>lobsterWell, we are really more like big crustaceans....
>>33242528I was still trying to figure out a good way of doing drone design and thought that was a good way of keeping things from getting crunch heavy. The way things are set up now seems pretty balanced at the moment.I try to keep the crunch as simple as possible while still being able to facilitate cool biological shenanigans.
>>33242483Ah. I see. That makes sense.What's the living thing:machine ratio of our shuttles, pods, and spaceships?
>>33242636Spaceships are actually set up like a Man-o-war. It's a bunch of drones linked together to form a single function. It's all biology, but with some metal reinforcing to keep the more dangerous parts contained, like power generators, while weapons are mostly machine like the grafts, but bigger.
>>33242674Query:have you prepared new regions of this planet for us to explore and find new stuff to sample yet?Like those badlands east of the Clarke mountain range.
>>33242514So this is completely workable?:Improved SnifferOlfactory: Advanced 2Acoustic: Advanced 2Psionic: Basic 0Radio: Advanced 6N 3MEM: Advanced 3N 2MMandible: None 0Blade: None 0Arms: Dex 1Legs: Endurance 1Carapace: Basic 0Wings: Medium 2Acid glands: 1Size: MediumCost: 18N 5MUpkeep: 9N
Hey, next time we talk to him, we really ought to find out from Coil...- where he got the Void Shards- his people's history with the shards- how he came to work for LyleAlso, it's worth considering this is a Ceph who works for a human, so he's a little atypical at least, and not xenophobic. There's a good possibility others will be much more xenophobic, and thus interpret out tachyon talent more heretically.
>>33242686not on the map, not yet, but don't let that stop you. The badlands are actually southwards, towards the equator.