The ground trembles beneath the stampede. Your drones run in all directions to avoid the oncoming wall of creatures as they mow a path through the jungle. The humans still don’t suspect any danger, and by the time they notice the incoming horde it will likely be too late.The stampede passes, and your drones emerge from the debris of scattered and torn vegetation and survey the damage. Several holes have been bored into the thick layer of overgrowth and a path of mushroom trees have been overturned and crushed.You are the Hive Queen, and at the moment the fate of the humans rests with you. A response from the incoming human rescue fleet was received earlier in the day, but the probe sending the signal was destroyed by something in the system. With the planet’s constant overcast you have no way of observing what goes on above you without placing a drone in orbit yourself, so for now you can only listen to the radiation with a single antenna mounted on the peak of the small mountain which you have made your home. The humans of the Union have set up a small camp near the edge of the jungle, and it seems the electrical current of their defensive perimeter has driven a heard of local creatures into a frenzy. If you do nothing you doubt they will be alive by the time the rescue fleet arrives.Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone
>>32206764>Current armory3 Thorn Launchers2 Sting Casters>Current resource reservesNutrients: 207Metals: 35>Hive population and upkeep cost Queen – 5Worker (17) – 34Warrior (5) – 20Thinker (6) – 18Speaker – 3Digger (3) – 12Nutrient costs: 92>IncomeNutrients: 50Net: -42Hive Structure>Reservoir>General storage>Food storage>Laboratory>InfrastructureHive construction underway>Algae farm>Research underwayUnity Tech Interfacing 3/5Human Tech Interfacing 1/5Flyer dissection 2/5 Available research options>Lightning gunVery slow, potential of failure and destruction of sample device>Human environment suitVery Slow, a bulky looking, yet light weight suit composed of tightly woven fabric and small metallic plating covering the chest and forearms. The suit seems to react to injury to the user, and contains a number of devices the humans use to make up for their frail physical structure and sensitive biology. Study of this technology could offer insight into any number of research fields.>Human technology interfacingYou have determined that the small device you retrieved from the human camp is some kind of artificial data storage. Physically it is worthless, but if you were to spend the time to develop a way to interface your thinkers with it the data within may prove well worth the effort.>Unity Drone salvageThe physical components of the drone are quite interesting. Opening it up and taking a closer look would give you a much better idea of how the device works (grants small bonus against Unity drones, and unlocks weapon, armor, and propulsion research options)
>>32206764>>32206776Yay!Tell the humans they are brave to lure so much food towards them at once.
I want to make a suggestion for a list of possible developments for our hive: Harvester Sacks - A drone climbs in and is slowly digested, netting back a large lump sum of nutrients, and thus making recycling drones and dead workers much more efficient by gaining back more of the resources used to create them. Leaches - Medical units that latch on to expensive and irreplaceable units. Leaches draw out impurities, poisons, and even hunt parasites with their 'tongues'. They close up when full, and become, essentially, bio-waste trash bags, which are difficult to puncture, and can be thrown away for safety. General - A warrior implanted with the genetic material of an advanced thinker, giving it the ability to lead long distance scouting and hunting parties. Electromagnetic Drone - Through a clever use of bio-electricity, this drone is able to detect metal minerals in rock and soil, letting you know where to dig for buried resources. Upon physical contact with a vein, they can tell how large it is, and in what directions it spreads, increasing mining efficiency.
>>32206935Ha.But nah let's just save Lee at the last second. We can carve out a cave somewhere a bit distant from our hive to keep him safe and fed until rescue.
>>32206976 Metal Supports/Shielding - By using an almost negligible amount of metal, you can line specific parts of your warriors claws with metal to act as supports against stress. These metal strips and linings aren't to make the warrior more deadly, or to give them sharper claws, but to prevent exoskeletal cracking should they have to block an attack with their claws, or strike an opponent with a shell harder then theirs. Medic Drone - The medic drone contains internal pouches of fluids of varying viscosity that can be smeared through an aperture in it's claws, or injected through a proboscis. These pastes and liquids serve as anesthetics, antimicrobial medicine, hemostatic gauze paste, silk for tourniquets, and hardening cast pastes. It also has detachable spines that can be used as splints. The Medic Drones claws have been retrofitted for injecting and smearing paste rather than the scything and clubbing that it's contemporaries claws are designed to do. This drone is not without defenses though, as an overdose of anesthetics in an opponent would be lethal, and the pastes in it's sacs would harden and lock a predators jaws shut.
>>32206976Anon, we have to find something existing already in nature to research and/or mimic it.>sticking Thinkers into ordinary drones.Man why. Why why why. Do you even specialization?Why put Thinker brains on the frontlines where they can die when they can add their brains to the warriors from a safe distance as a separate drone? Stupid.
>>32206984I'm down for waiting until it is inevitable that most of the camp will be thrashed so we can loot it. but we're not going to let them all get killed.
>>32206776At the human camp your speaker drone goes largely unnoticed. The humans appear to acclimate to new things quite quickly. You see Commander Grey for a moment discussing something with Lee, his arm draped across Lee's shoulders. Lee looks slightly uncomfortable, although his leg is still wounded, so you have a hard time determining a baseline.>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede>Say nothing>Attempt to power down the fence yourself>Speak with Grey or Lee (write in)>Other
>>32207017Because brains are stationary, and this will extend their range.
>>32206976Please no. Let's keep the Specialization debates until after PLOT happens.I missed the chance last week to suggest maxing out that Olfactory antennae adaptation for some worker models, so at least have the same patience I have.
>>32207056>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede
>>32207056>>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede
>>32207056>Inform Grey of the approaching stampedeand>www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/460d99f6a63c4Could we this?
>>32207056>Say nothingPlease.At least wait a little bit until it's closer.
>>32207068>Do not suggest things! I didn't, so you shouldn't either!NO.Also: we should be careful how we tell the bipeds about the stampede. We shouldn't give away just how many powers we have.
>>32207064Do you have any idea how vast telepathy range is already? Not to mention ignoring the fact that we can relocate the Thinkers as we please to far off bases. Or set up telepathy relays for us all.We do not need Overlords.
>>32206976-The electro magnetic drone is good, though the planet's (apparently very strong) electromag field would present difficulties in development.-The Leaches are unnecessary, our biologies have already adapted to the environmental hazards here.-Harvester sacks aren't necessary because we don't recycle drones that much-Generals can be done better by just building a psionic relay>>32207006-Metal supports are...redundant.-Medic drone is good, but you're not thinking alien enough with it. Give it flash-cloning/building chambers so it can eat the damaged limbs (or battlefield charnel) off of our bugs and then clone a new one to graft on.
>>32206976>Harvester Sackswe're already pretty efficient without those, but why not?>LeechesLaunch them at foes as bioweapons>Generalnah>EMDI don't think that's how bio-electricity works. You want prospector drones, don't fluff it that way.>>32207006>Metal Integrationwe already do that, although further research to increase efficiency might be possible.>Medic Dronenot as useful, since drones and broken chitin are so easily consumed and replaced. Maybe a drone that can release anaesthetics, stimulants, and antimicrobial paste?>>32207064not necessarily. Like with that time I argued for putting range extenders on Furnace Drones, the sheer range is simply so large, there's no need to add the extenders onto other units.>>32207056>Inform Grey of the approaching stampede
>>32207150I'm saying don't slow down the goddamn thread with that when we have PLOT.I want the same thing you do but use some sense.
>>32207056Inform grey of the approaching stampede.
>>32207056>Speak with LeeHumans should consume the electric worms, they're an efficient source of nutrients.
>>32207177>>32207150Really now man, start up a new thread "Hive Queen Quest Discussion" and post them there. It's good to come up with ideas, but it does really bog us down.
>>32207092>>32207095>>32207108Why should we though?
>>32207229so that we don't get caught up in the stampede?although the stampede itself and the trampling of mushroom forest might be a boon...
>>32207022you're voting for not telling them then right?
>>32207160>-The electro magnetic drone is good, though the planet's (apparently very strong) electromag field would present difficulties in development.What difficulties? Says who?>-The Leaches are unnecessary, our biologies have already adapted to the environmental hazards here.Except for the cordicepts fungus that has already claimed one worker...>-Harvester sacks aren't necessary because we don't recycle drones that muchUm... Care to count how many we already have? Think again.>-Generals can be done better by just building a psionic relayTHAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS.
>>32207056>Inform Grey of the stampede
>>32207264We are not in danger of the stampede. at all.terrible reason. they're ignoring us completely.>>32207257It is to our benefit that there be a bunch of unused human technology we can loot.
>>32207169>>Leeches>Launch them at foes as bioweaponsYES.
>>32207273Why not just move a thinker so its in range.>>32207225I don't see that going down well with the anti quest portion of /tg/.
>>32207273Alright, if you're going to be like that then I'll cease to entertain you in polite conversation.
>>32207273Oh my god shut up with your stupid snowflake ideas already.First, Thinker brains is not the same as a psionic relay.And second, you don't put your psionic relay units into the same body as battle units.
>>32207297Not really. The bugs will probably trample all the equipment to bits.
>>32207297>It is to our benefit that there be a bunch of unused human technology we can loot.Most of which will probably get crushed by the beasties.
>>32207056As you move to speak with the humans you can't help but look at their camp. Even in a trampled state, much of it may be of some use. You weigh the risks...>Wait to tell them until they are almost here>Tell them now
>>32207347>>32207357Okay, there is that not insignificant risk.Man I really wish Unity had left some human corpses behind instead of vaporizing. All we have is bones, nothing interesting to dissect.
>>32207369>>Tell them now
>>32207369Tell them now
>>32207056>Inform Grey of the approaching stampedePreferably in a sorta joking manner like >>32206935suggests.
>>32207369Oh so trampling won't be that disastrous! good.>Wait to tell them until they are almost here
>>32207369It will take them a while to believe us so>Tell them now
>>32207056>>32207369>Tell them now>Speak with Grey or Lee>Lee or Grey"Your kin is very brave to bring so many food to yourselves at once. Perhaps you will share the secret of this fence with us?"
>>32207369I want to maintain them as allies, but I REALLY want human anatomy research...>Wait to tell them until they are almost here
>>32207369>Tell them nowI honestly would prefer these guys in our debt.
>>32207225I try to stay after the session is over until the thread 404s for meta discussion, questions and the like.
>>32207369>>Tell them nowDont want their sensitive (and probably cool) shit to get stomped.
>>32207169>not as useful, since drones and broken chitin are so easily consumed and replaced. This has nothing to do with that. What happens if we send out five or more drones to kill something and bring it back, and all but one of them are too wounded to carry it? Consuming or recycling them won't be efficient. >>32207225>Really now man, start up a new thread "Hive Queen Quest Discussion" and post them there. It's good to come up with ideas, but it does really bog us down.No, we already have a thread for discussing Hive Quest; THE HIVE QUEST THREAD. We need to think of technologies now, and come up with a plan of what we want in the future and start making them before it's too late. Our offspring take time to hatch, if we only make them when we need them we'll be too late to use them. That's like waiting until your house is on fire to go out and buy a fire extinguisher.
>>32207369>The hive, which is totally trustworthy, and which you are 99% sure secretly took out at least 2 Unity drones and is lying to your face a bout this, after which you immediately erected this electric fence which you never had around your camp before this, is now suggesting you have to turn off your electric fence.I can't wait to roll for diplomacy.Also I see Grey is trying to feed his suspicions into Lee, turn him against us right under our antennae! Ballsy.
>>32207369>Tell them now
>>32207398At worst, you could scrap it for metals, although you hope something would survive.(I'll roll for damage)
>>32207446Actually we're suggesting they move AND turn off the electric fence. Since I doubt the bugs will just stop outright once the fence is off.
>>32207177>>32207443We basically want to avoid what AI Quest has devolved into. Catching up on this week's thread, there was literally zero plot progression because it was all discussion about possible upgrades and progressions. We should try to keep this streamlined and focus on the plot when there's plot
>>32207369>Tell them nowJesus guys, let's NOT be a dick to our (sort-of) friends.
>>32207446They had a camp with buildings before so they didn't need a fence anon. Really if they do think we took out the drones what do they think a fence is going to do to us?
>>32207518>Jesus guys, let's NOT be a dick to our (sort-of) friends.>friendsThat's stupid.Not telling them has its advantages. "Being a dick" isn't really a relevant concern.
>>32207443>Consuming or recycling them won't be efficient.Battle units don't need to return to base to replace their armor chitin, they just eat the broken pieces and grow new ones.As for wounded limbs and such, I'm not sure if those regenerate, or if there's anything in particular a medic can do about that in the field.There was the cloning thing here >>32207160, but otherwise medical pastes are all we've got.Last post from me about this, though. This can wait until the thread ends.
>>32207522They set up the fence because they're in the jungle now (because they think that there's still a Unity drone wandering around). Before they were out on the plains, which had few/no predators aside from the Flying Wings of Death.
>>32207369>Tell them nowYou decide it best to err on the side of caution. Your speaker walks up to the two humans."You are attracting danger."Grey looks at you, startled for a moment."What? What do you mean?"Hmm... how do you explain the situation to the Commander?
>>32207584>>32206935I still like this
>>32207559That is also a better reason for the fence then thinking it would stop us.
Wait... Why do we want them to turn off their fence?
>>32207584Well, I was hoping we'd go for the 'Way to be ballsy' approach so ....If that's off the table, then I guess we inform them of the large number of regular bugs throwing themselves onto the fence and the ground shaking first.
>>32207584Yes go with, >>32206935Might add an addendum about how they plan to kill then store so much of it.
>>32207584Let's point out how the worms are being drawn to the fence.
>>32207584I support this >>32206935 with adding there is basically a stampede coming through here.
>>32207649The wildlife is attracted to electricity, so it's drawing a stampede because it's a sci-fi grade electric fence of death.
>>32207649it attracts the wildlife because they all sense/eat electricity.
>>32207584Your lure-fence has attracted too many prey. The hive is curious of the secret behind such a potent trap.
>>32207663>>32207691>>32207661Yeah, supplement it with these.
>>32207704>>32207665This, mention the worms. Make them understand that these organisms do not work the same way the do. Electricity might not be the deterrent that they hope it is.
>>32207746Nah, don't bother with the details. Let them believe us or not.
>>32207777Yeah, fuck 'em and all, but, won't we need them to turn it off if we want our speaker to get out of dodge in time?
>>32207746>>32207777We can point out their fence is luring worms which are luring bigger predators who are stampeding their way.
>>32207777>Grey won't believe us>Lee will>mutinous schism in the camp as we try and flee the stubborn camp with Lee and whoever he tries to convince with the word of the Cassandra bug at his side
>>32207584"You lure much, much food all at once! It would be far too much for the hive to hunt.""I'm still not following. How are we attracting-"The zap of the fence frying yet another creature makes Trevor jump slightly. He turns to the fence, and the pile of writhing worms and small creatures reaching up in an effort to grasp the wires."Oh shit.""Your weapons must be quite powerful to deal with so many. There is a large herd heading this way."The two look at each other briefly before Grey slaps Lee on the back. "Remember what I told you, and keep Junior here out of danger." He turns to the others "Incoming! Get to your stations, and shut down the damn fence!"
>>32207777I concur. If they don't trust us...eh.
>>32207811Our Speaker can be reborn.We can get Lee to open a gate for us anyway.Lee would never betray us.
>>32207829hahahah!, time to hunt!
>>32207829>. "Remember what I told you,"What was he saying?"
>>32207850Actually how have our Speaker's legs healed so far with the human splints on them?
>>32207876>>32207829We didn't hear.Damn I'm wishing we sent those spy-flies along with the Speaker. Any chance we could hatch some, QM?
>>32207829"I suggest you leave this place before the herd arrives. The hive can provide short-term shelter."
>>32207906>We didn't hear.That's.... the point anon.That is why those four words were in quotation marks. So that the Speaker would ask Lee them.
>>32207876We can speculate that he wants to keep the Speaker safe from danger since its the only viable contact the humans have to a friendly radio-capable race
>>32207876>>32207906>>32207829What if they're actually talking about us in a wholly benevolent fashion?Like "Isn't that guy fucking great? Got us out of a sticky situation, he's like a native guide! Let's be sure to keep him the fuck alive."
>>32207906I am all for, ASAP, laying a clutch of tiny spy flies to deliver to where the Speaker can pick up the eggs and bring them into camp.It's not like we'll have to feed them since we can't control them anyway, they'll just run about until they starve.
>>32207921While keeping Lee in a cave of his own / metaphorical doghouse as a pet is appealing, let's wait on that.
>>32207921No, we can't compromise the safety of the hive.
>>32207829Lee looks at you nervously as he takes out his pistol."Do you know what exactly they are?""Very big, and many of them!""Ok... well stay close to me." Lee moves back to one of the small tents, inside you note many more gravely wounded humans. Lee leans against a nearby tree, taking the weight off his leg.The humming of the fence stops suddenly, and you note several of the rampaging creatures waver in their course. Two stop outright and begin to lumber about in a daze before slowly moving back out to the mossy plains. Most of them, however, seem to stay their course. You wonder of they know what they are even chasing now. Likely the ones behind are following the ones in front are running from whatever imaginary thing could be chasing the ones behind. It hardly matters. Nearly a dozen are left and will arrive at the camp very soon. Should you wish to prepare, or offer assistance now would be the time.>Have warriors help defend the camp>Offer advice (write in)>Other
>>32208059Which is way more advanced than just dwelling in a cave like when Lee was there last.Let's not reveal we have Creep/squishy walls/Infrastructure.
>>32208073No risking our precious children.
>>32208073Offer warrior defense in exchange for some of those funny looking human technology. High-pressure salesmanship is a go
>>32208073>Have warriors help defend the campPreferably from out of site, but defense is top priority. We'll hopefully be able to get some nice samples from these things.
>>32208073>Have warriors help defend the camp
>>32208093>revealing our mastering of projectile weaponryNO.
>>32208073>OtherUse the warriors/drones we dispatched to try to cause the horde to splinter or redirect its course. Have the warriors attack one side so they lean away from them, while the workers have dug a ditch (or some other obstacle) that the horde wants to avoid to push them further off course.
>>32208120>defense is top priority...how so?They'll be fine. They have lightning guns.If we do get a few human corpses out of the deal it's actually a good thing.
>>32208073Alternatively, send in few workers to quickly loot any technology from any humans who get trampled or killed while the remaining humans are distracted. We could have them be accompanied by warriors if need be to "help out"
>>32208136I have to agree with overly-paranoid anon here. This: >>32208159 would be good so long as we don't do any of it in sight of the humans.
>>32208073>OtherAsk for a power generator of theirs.So we can lure some of them elsewhere. (And study it.)Do NOT let them see our warriors.
>>32208136Who said anything about using our weapons?>>32208073Have our warriors turn up with no weapons and declare our intent to die helping our friends. Hopefully they'll hand us some spare weapons out of pity.Naturally said weapons will disappear in the confusion of battle.
>>32208186Yes, they'll definitely lend us weapons we have no training in and can't actually hold.
>>32208186Warriors are equipped with weapons, would you just have them disarm themselves at the hive before going out?Also risking our children at all for random xenos is also a poor move anyway.
>>32208073You decide it best to help the humans, or at the very least, attempt to mitigate the damage.>Send warriors to help directly>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede>Other
>>32208073>Have warriors help defend the campEither A) With no weapons or B) Try to pick some of them off from a distance.We can send out the drones to retrieve the corpses of the creatures for study/food afterwords.
>>32208243>OtherGet power sources from the humans and attract the stampede elsewhere!
>>32208243>>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede
>>32208243>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede
>>32208265Probably dont have time.
>>32208288Surely if we have time to send warriors to arrive at the camp, we have time to take a power generator a moderate distance.Maybe not with the Speaker, but Speaker can deliver it to a worker that's out and about.
>>32208243>Use the drones already out to try to divert the stampede.Send warriors to assist...if they'll get there in time.
>>32208243I don't care what we do as long as we don't send warriors to defend directly.
>>32208317If we have time to move the generators why don't we just get them to move their camp out of the way?
>>32208346Worker drones are stronger and faster than a large group of humans carrying heavy equipment. Duh.
>>32208346I'm assuming because it would take too long to move their wounded. >>32208243>Send warriors to help directly
>>32208073whynotboth.pngsend the drones to divert the stampede but move in the warriors to be in place to quickly defend the camp if that fails
>>32208243You already have a small squad of drones that you had sent out to scout the area. You don't have time to send any others out, so you will just have to make due. They run after the massive, lumbering creatures and catch up to them soon enough. They move quite fast, but your two warriors easily out run them, leaving your small squad of workers in the dust.>Attack the creatures head on>Shoot them from the side>Attempt to tackle one
>>32208395>>Attempt to tackle oneI want to dissect it anyway. Only need one.
>>32208395>>Shoot them from the sideAssuming humans can't see us, if they do, fuck using warriors.
>>32208364Maybe the humans dont have extra generators to be throwing away.
>>32208419Maybe their lives are more important than power generators.This is the one chance we have to get them to give us one willingly really. Since it helps save their lives.Too late now I guess though.
>>32208395>Attempt to tackle oneHaha, just for the hilarity.Then we shall ride it to direct the charge elsewhere. (Perhaps to around our mountain so we have all the resources we need for quite a while.)
>>32208395>Shoot them from the side
>>32206776>Net: -42We really need to send a huge hunting/foraging party next chance we get.
>>32208395>>Attempt to tackle one
>>32208395>Shoot them from the sideJust need to lure a couple off and point them away from the humans.
>>32208395>>Shoot them from the sideWhy would we even tackle them when we have shooting claw things
>>32208468We have farms in the process of being carved out as we speak.
>>32208468I get the feeling we're about to see a decent surge in available food. These big things are probably tasty.
>>32208395>>Shoot them from the side
>>32208486And we don't know their daily output yet or when they'll be done.Better to have more than 5 days' worth of food if we want to keep growing, since that'll quickly become 2 days' worth.
>>32208395>>Shoot them from the sideShoot ONE from the side
>>32208439They would probably die without electricity, at least in their own heads. I doubt they want to shack up with giant bugs.
>>32208512damn, you should've voted for tackle then.
>>32208395>Shoot them from the sideYour warriors move to the flank and take aim. Hopefully you can scare them into turning away from the camp.Roll 1 d100, best of 3
>>32208516In the heat of the moment they could consent, given we promise to bring it back the next day.We might meet some delays on that front.
>>32208516>I doubt they want to shack up with giant bugsYou never know maybe they are fa/tg/uys
>>32208073>Offer advice (write in)Erect a fence elsewhere have our drones and diggers dig a hole turnthe stampede falls into hole we close it off they die of starvation we fucking profit
Rolled 19>>32208551Here we go!
>>32208560I doubt it would survive in the first place seeing as all these monsters are going hell for leather after it.
Rolled 87>>32208551I hope we don't scare them off at all though.I hope we just catch one or two to eat and/or dissect.
Cool, i haven't caught one of these since the first thread.Something VERY IMPORTANT that seems to have been overlooked.It is entireley possible that ocean-fungus will have a 'budding season'. If those spores become airborne, we're fucked.Every drone that goes outside becomes a timebomb.The thinkers developed that filter lung, but that's not enough.We need some sort of filter-gland to make us immune, even if they do get in our system.
>>32208613>turn on device>run like hell, perpendicular to the herd's charge>turn off device after they change course enough>keep running, change directionOne drone has more mobility than a camp with wounded humans.
>>32208647>It is entireley possible that ocean-fungus will have a 'budding season'. If those spores become airborne, we're fucked.I thought the same thing ever since the first Cordyceps drone exploded. When are those spores getting released? Probably during the global summer that's coming up....and that filter lung *is* enough, if we equip it on every drone that goes outside during that time. But that makes them so squishy and vulnerable.
>>32208647That's quite easy to do, just have to invest in research.The more pressing issue is hiding/disguising/withdrawing our radio-antenna drone before we get somebody from space snooping around.
>>32208649>implying the generator doesn't need to be stationary>implying one drone can out run the bugs>implying it doesn't get attacked by other smaller but still nasty bugs that are nearby.
>>32208647>We need some sort of filter-gland to make us immune, even if they do get in our system.No, we just have to have the hive seal the doors and lay low and live off our stockpiles/underground farms until the threat literally blows over. Like hibernation but as a hive.
>>32208667Only the lung itself is squishy and vulnerable.
>>32208551Your warriors open fire, placing a volley of chitinous rounds into the side of the closest two creatures. They let out a deep howl and shift their weight into the next in the herd with a thunderous crash. Several of the rounds simply bounce off, but you note some damage done to at least one of them. As they try to turn away from your warriors they bump and tackle each other in a mad melee. Several of the creatures eventually turn away, while one bounces off of the others and turns in the direction of your warriors!Roll 1d100, best of 3
Rolled 79>>32208752Hah! Eat hot chitin, motherfucker!What's up with everything here having armor that can shrug off rifle-equivalent round?
>>32208771You mean the Enormous bugs and the mechs? The only other thing we shot with them got fucked up.
>>32208771These guys are supposed to shrug of flying death wasps without missing a beat.
>>32208667>...and that filter lung *is* enough, if we equip it on every drone that goes outside during that time. But that makes them so squishy and vulnerable.A Set of external lungs grafted on the outside.... yeah, i don't need to list all the risks with that.Even if the lungs are improved, if the spores get in a cut, or one swallows something...We need some sort of gland to purge the spores from our system.[X] vote to breed team of thinkers and dedicate them to this.
>>32208896>We need some sort of gland to purge the spores from our system.That is probably impossible.
>>32208752You are caught off guard as the creature lunges toward your warriors. Is it just panicked or is it actually attacking? Regardless, the beast slams into one of your warriors with a loud crunch. Your drone just manages to grasp a piece of its thick shell before it falls off and under foot. You try to maintain your grip, but as you make to climb over the creature it slams into a tree, and your warrior with it. Your drone bounces off the thick trunk and falls to the dirt, rolling a short distance before coming to a stop in a bloodied heap. You can feel its thoughts drifting slowly about, alive but barley. "H-hurt..."The creature is turning around for another pass, but there are at least six from the herd that are still heading to the camp. Your injured warrior can hardly move, let alone stand and fight.>Stay and protect the injured warrior>Abandon the warrior and chase after the rest of the herd
>>32208896Game balance isn't easily circumvented with "i wish we could do this" ideas. I prefer to work with the building blocks we've been given.
>>32208950>>Stay and protect the injured warriorGotta protect our kids!And dissect that elephant thing.
>>32208950>Stay and protect the injured warrior.We don't want the humans seeing our warriors and their weapons anyway.
>>32208958You mean the blocks of "your tech is largely determined by your imagination"?
>>32208950>>Stay and protect the injured warriorTargets: Eyes, Ears/antennae, Bottom of feet
>>32208996We can't invent poisons, we have to study something poisonous.To create better filter organs, we probably need to study more infectious spores.We need a concrete research path to follow. Researching one kind of spores got us the filter lungs. We need more data to upgrade it.
Rolled 65>>32208950>>Stay and protect the injured warriorIf the humans can't take down 6 of the herd, then they weren't going to go very far on this planet anyway
>>32208928We have insane biotech that can create organic fusion reactors and living space ships.If we can't develop a chemical that kills spores and a gland to produce it, fucking laugh.
>>32208950>>Stay and protect the injured warrior
>>32209027I'm not saying that we don't. Maybe we just have to get the lungs to unlock the next level of lung upgrade.
>>32209042Are you special snowflake anon from earlier?Anyway, we just need to research the spores first. Once we research a wide enough variety of spores to a sufficiently detailed extent we'll probably unlock a 'universal key' that'll grant us immunity to most of the toxins on the planet.We can't just magic up an immunity gland without research though.
>>32209089More importantly, we can't just tell the Thinkers "we want this!" and get it.we have to have a research subject, new spore varieties.
>>32208950>Stay and protect the injured warriorYou have helped enough already, you do not intend to sacrifice one of your precious children so easily. Your warrior raises its weapons and takes aim.Roll 1d100, best of 3
>>32209042>We have insane biotech that can create organic fusion reactors and living space ships.>If we can't develop a chemical that kills spores and a gland to produce it, fucking laugh.Note these are completely unrelated. Our ability to create reactors has no effect on our ability to create glands.
Rolled 99>>32209127shoot the soles!
Rolled 33>>32209187I do hope that crits don't override outside the voting window.
>>32209145Not him, but I understand where he's coming from.If your genetic memory gives you the ability to create organic fusion reactors and living space ships, why haven't we also been given the capacity for high-performance filtration?
>>32209089>Are you special snowflake anon from earlier?What?>We can't just magic up an immunity gland without research though.yep, that's why i said [x]vote to breed team of thinkers and dedicate them to the problem.The basic Idea should be simple enough. Expose spore samples to every chemicle/horemone we can produce until we have a mix we can use.Something the spores hate, that we can handle
>>32209209For game balance man, geeze. Also maybe the genetic memory included space ships because those are important but not filters because our home planet doesn't have many airborne pathogens?
>>32209209>organic fusion reactorsHe made that up.That was a misunderstanding clarified near the end of last thread. We don't have fusion at all.
>>32209209can we even access that tech right now?Also, we need to figure out the practicals of constant filtration: maintaining the filter, ejecting filtrates, adjusting the filter to suit the environment, and figuring out a protocol for when the filters are breached. We can do it, it just takes time.
>>32209253>[x]vote to breed team of thinkers and dedicate them to the problem.That isn't going to work. Just keep studying samples of infectious things when we get the chance. We don't have any more right now. We exhausted all research into the ocean fungus itself.
>>32209145We create fusion with modafied glands and organs. They are very related.
>>32209286We can have it though.
>>32209338You mean the giant stomach?
>>32209127Standing over the injured warrior, your drone takes aim as the creature charges. A tree is uprooted and split into pieces as the massive beast tramples it underfoot, its numerous legs clawing at the ground as it carries its armored mass directly at you. You open fire in response, puncturing several of the eyes. The creature lets out a howl of pain and rears up, its carapace straining from the stress of its own weight and revealing a soft, exposed underbelly. You litter it with chitinous slugs, shredding the beast's belly and spilling its contents across the ground. It continues to lunge back, and eventually turns over, slumping to its back in a thrashing rage that soon withers into still silence.The beast is dead, and your warrior is saved. The workers have nearly caught up and move to assist the warrior back to the hive.1/2
>>32209338Fusion would be a very difficult thing to do with organic materials...
>>32209399Drag the corpse too!! Soooo many nutrients!
>>32209349There is no indication nuclear fusion is possible with biological organs. We don't even know nuclear fusion exists as far as I can tell.>>32209338Different tech trees entirely.Also, we don't, in fact, do any fusion whatsoever, organically or otherwise.
>>32209439By that logic there's no indication nuclear fusion is possible with mechanical components either.
>>32209309>That isn't going to work.What's the problem?-get sample of spores.-Store in secure lab.-Expose to different substances and test results.-Repeat until we get results or find something better.Why are you even objecting. This is something important we need, with an obvious and simple sloution.
>>32209566Not that anon, but I'm pretty sure he's talking about your 'Get a group of thinkers and tell them to figure something out' idea.
>>32209564I'm not sure you understand nuclear fusion.
>>32209566>with an obvious and simple sloution.There is none
>>32209405>>32209439We used something to power faster than light travel. Also QuestDrone totally said we can make some sort of giant nuclear stomach thing last thread.
>>32209664It was just a giant stomach.
You guys know it's not an either/or deal with the material base of our technology, right? Even our basic infantry weapons include inorganic materials, simply manipulated using organic means.I suspect that as we rise through tech trees, things will become increasingly metalo-organic.
>>32209633I'm certain you don't.
>>32209695This.So much this.The line between organism and machine will begin to increasingly blur as we get more and more capabilities to expand and empower both.
>>32209693Well hell it doesn't matter if it was nuclear or not, if it can produce the same power that's pretty damn impressive.
>>32209633And I'm not quite sure you understand biology.
>>32209664For the last time, I already said that was a misunderstanding that was clarified last thread. You should have kept reading. >>32076425
>>32209566That's a nice goal. It's not reaaaally a plan. It's something that requires multiple steps over a prolonged amount of time, too. It's ALSO something that doesn't appear to be incredibly pressing this very moment.Definitely a priority is to increase knowledge of the ecosystem and its dangers. It's something we're all keeping in mind, I'm sure.
>>32209622Yes, i voted to breed a group of thinkers and dedicate them to this project.... why is that a problem?I really don't get what people are objecting to here.
>>32209742Could have missed it. it was a while ago and I have been doing a bunch of tests.
>>32209751You don't have a plan. You have a goal. We are already laying Thinkers once in a while to increase our research pool.You see a research subject available that looks like it contributes to your goal, vote for it. Repeating your goal over and over right now accomplishes nothing.I swear conversations like this almost make me stop liking open ended quests.
>>32209751It would be a waste of time and resources at this point.
>>32209751All you were originally saying is that we get a group of thinkers and tell them we want a solution. That is not how any of our tech has worked so far. We need to give them some specific material to research, then they'll give us results.
>>32209399The humans have set themselves up along the edge of the fence, lightning guns at the ready. As the howling in the distance becomes louder you note many begin to waver in their aim, including Lee, who is shaking slightly in his suit.The treeline breaks, and a number of small creatures leap the fence, bounding in all directions as they flee the stampede. A moment later the perimeter explodes as the massive shell of one of the herd rips the cables from their anchors with a loud twang. The creature is met with a dozen arcing tendrils of lighting searing into its front and it promptly leaps to the side, annihilating several empty tents and a flood light before slamming into a small, dug out shelter carved into the trunk of a tree. It shakes back and forth violently in a vain effort to shake off the bubbling flesh covering its face. Several more tendrils leap into its side, slicing deep, burning gashes into its armor. Two more appear from the treeline, and a human disappears under one as it advances. A small crunch and muffled scream is all that would indicate if it has run over anything at all, and the two are quickly covered in arcing plasma.Lee lets loose several bursts from his own pistol, and you note he is screaming in panic as he does so. His first shot arcs through the air before turning sharply and evaporating a large chunk of a tree, while the next slices off several legs from one of the advancing creatures. Another two enter the camp, mowing over more of the camp and several of the remaining humans before meeting the same fate.By the time the last has fallen still in the clearing, you count seven out of twelve of the humans, not counting the wounded still in the tent Lee had been defending.>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods (requires the help of all workers)>Leave it, it's too big to deal with right now
>>32209895>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods (requires the help of all workers)
>>32209895>>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods (requires the help of all workers)speaker can...observe the wreakage?
>>32209895>>Leave it, it's too big to deal with right nowWell.I hope the body will be there later.I'd like to subtly retrieve a human corpse while they're distracted.
>>32209895>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods.Let's try to study that armor before we eat it.
>>32209748>That's a nice goal. It's not reaaaally a plan. It's a solid start. Get samples. Test samples. Repeat as needed. If you want more, i think that'll have to wait for the first stage to testing to open more options.It's ALSO something that doesn't appear to be incredibly pressing this very moment.For all we know, the spores will go airborne in two weeks.Of course, it might not happen this year, but we can't risk it.Inaction could fuck us.
>>32209985>Repeat as needed.Game mechanics do not seem to allow this. For game balance reasons.We have exhausted all research subjects related to the ocean spores. Period. There is no more spore research until we get a new and more interesting sample unlike what we've found before.
>>32209895>>Salvage the creature you killed in the woods (requires the help of all workers)
>>32210000Hail the wisdom of the quads!
>>32207904 So are our Speaker drone's splint-ed up legs healed yet?
>>32209985We don't even know that sporing seasons are even a thing with the ocean. General ecological research might tell us that, and covers many more potential threats. Focusing just on the one because it's spooky that a worker got taken over is understandable, but rash.
>>32210000To be fair, we could choose the action "Collect interesting samples of local fungi."But...we don't seem to have 'turns' where we can choose our own actions all that often.
>>32210100I don't see how that's a "To be fair". That is only adding to my point.Go, do that. This guy can just stop whining about how his idea of how the research mechanic works should be how it works, instead of how it has actually seemed to.
>>32210074Yes, sorry I keep forgetting to answer that...>>32209895>Salvage the creatureYou send out your workers and they quickly move to the dead creature. Your warrior helps up his wounded brother and together with the workers, who even with their number struggle to carry the massive weight of the still bleeding beast. It takes several hours to get the corpse back to the hive, in the mean time the humans attempt to recover from the attack."The hell were those things?""What does it matter, just so long as they stay dead.""God! Stevens!"Several of the humans collect what little remains of there killed crew, and the rest replace the cables of the fence.The fence remains powered off.
>>32210100We're caught up with the humans making a mess of things right now.Searching for delicious researches is something I'd support. Man it's really piling up though, huh?
>>32210000>We have exhausted all research subjects related to the ocean spores. Period. There is no more spore research until we get a new and more interesting sample unlike what we've found before.Has QuestDrone actually said this?Is something stopping us from collecting spores and testing them?Good chance some of the local creatures will have some sort or resistance. If possible, i'd expose the spores to samples taken from them. See if we get any results.
>>32210186Look at the available research subjects for research.Do you see ocean fungus anymore?No?Jesus use your goddamn eyes.
>>32210151>+XXX Nutrients?>new research subject?
>>32210219Yes, because the listed options are the ONLY options.Other important or interesting things could never come up.
>>32210249Slow down man, he's obviously writing.>>32210186More likely the local creatures learned not to eat the ocean.
>>32210151>Several of the humans collect what little remains of there killed crew,note to self: remember if/where they buried those.
>>32210151The day continues, quietly and slowly at the human camp, quickly and without incident in your hive. As night falls you note the humans don't seem to get much sleep. Lee approaches your drone with a small, half eaten brick of bland nutrients and sits on the ground."So how you holding up?" He asks."Acceptable.""So what were those things, exactly?" Lee takes a bite out of his nutrient brick, breaks off a piece and offers it to you. "Some kind of pack animal or something?"
>>32210321"We do not know. This is the first time we have seen such large prey. We normally stay within the forest, but these beasts came from the plains."
>>32210301They're the only ones currently available yes. The only time research options have appeared is when we've acquired new material.
>>32210321Shiiiit. Our non nativeness is suspected by Grey and company ain't it.How to answer..."Yes. We have seldom hunted them."
>>32210321"Explain: Pack Animal.Yes, they are "pack animal." Wander [where we saw them before, I think the plains], very dangerous. The hive does not hunt them, why did you?"
>>32210321"Yes, they roam in packs on the plains. They have formidable armor and are best avoided."
>>32210321To be clear, these creatures were large enough to fit being the same as those big shapes we saw on the plains, right?
>>32210406While it's not been stated, yeah. That's an acceptable leap of logic.
>>32210321"Dangerous. They come from the plains. The Hive does not hunt them. They hunt... disturbances. Your lightning guns are powerful."
>>32210436>>32210387>>32210378All good.Be sure to include the question.
>>32210378Maybe a little followup."A lure like you used, if smaller, would be very useful in attracting prey."hint hint nudge nudge Lee
>>32210462Yes, that too.
>>32210154>Searching for delicious researches is something I'd support.Let's try something we might have a limited time window on though, rather than ecology --send workers to scout for the humans' life ships. Lee said the original camp wasn't far from where they touched down.
>>32210462Let's not ask them for that just yet. Or at least not so bluntly, be more sly about it.We've got Unity Drone tech to acquire, I'm sure they include a generator.
>>32210406Yes, and judging by the direction they came from, they had originated near the plains.>>32210321"Pack...animal?""Yea. You know, like domestication or something. I mean, those looked wild but I figured you would have used some of them to carry stuff.""No. They are dangerous and have thick armor. The hive has not ventured past the Jungle.""Seriously? Never?" Lee seems genuinely surprised. "How long have you been living in this jungle?"
>>32210506>The hive has not ventured past the Jungle."Damn it...
>>32210506Long enough to know not to venture past the jungle.
>>32210506The hive is young. The jungle provides all nourishment we require.
>>32210506"As long as I can remember"
>>32210506"We have hidden from those flying things for many generations, and the plains are far too advantagous for them."
>>32210506>The hive has not ventured past the Jungle."fuck, anon, you shouldn't have said that."Why would we venture beyond the Jungle?"
>>32210506"Open air brings high danger. The jungle is sanctuary."Also: >>32210533
>>32210506>>32210528I like this one.
>>32210506>The hive has not ventured past the Jungle.Why would you say this?
>>32210349YouuuuuuuYou did this!
>>32210546I would vote for this.
>>32210524>>32210546>>32210615>>32210634I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was trying to imply that we stick to forests, not that we've never been to the plains
>>32210615Eh, plenty of species don't expand beyond their native biome.It is, in fact, a mark of advanc(ed/ing) civilization for a species to extend beyond its native biome. This slip up will probably serve to convince them that we're primitive.
>>32210651It's all good, Especially if thats the meaning. Just, you know, read the paranoia in the air.
>>32210533"As long as we have walked."Would be more truthful.
>>32210699They called me mad. But it was they who were mad!Mad about shadowruns.
>>32210707That's a good one, I like it.
>>32210506"As long as the hive can remember. The places past the jungle are too dangerous."Lee takes another bite of his nutrient brick. "Well it doesn't seem much better here." He leans back against the soft trunk of a mushroom tree and absently looks up, as if looking for stars. With the power shut off the dim glow of the tree's soft fins are clearly visible in the night. "You know, when it isn't actively trying to kill you, this planet is kinda pretty."Lee!"Lee looks back over to the harsh light of a lamp shining in a tent. Commander Grey is leaning out of the shutter. "I need to talk to you!""Damn, so much for that. I'll see ya in the morning, Junior."...Junior?
>>32210749Time for espionage!
>>32210749Damn. We really need those spy flies. Probably more about us.Well, next turn time! Allocate workers to life pods retrieval?
>>32210749I hope Lee has good luck with his Queen's mating advances. They must replenish their numbers quickly.
>>32210788Funny.But our species clearly does not have sexual reproduction.
>>32210749Time for a new turn.
>>32210785We'll advocate them to searching for them. Perhaps we should research the Unity weapons first (We have a mostly intact drone that we're interfacing with actually) and use them to destroy any pods we don't steal. Alternately, perform field research...steal important/complicated bits, then blast the rest.To cover our tracks, you see?
>>32210749Lee walks over to the tent and crawls inside. You note several shadows within, although you cannot hear them from this distance.You note that most of the other humans are either drifting to sleep in their own tents and carved out shelters, or are on watch at the perimeter fence, which seems farther away than the humans seem to be able to see in the dark.
>>32210844>destroy any pods we don't steal.but Metals!
>>32210844Allocate*>>32210870We're starting up a mine, covering our tracks is more important.
>>32210860>farther away than the humans seem to be able to see in the dark.As if we have the opportunity to....sneak closer and eavesdrop with our sensitive antennae.I mean we heard that rumbling long before the humans noticed it. Our range should be large.
>>32210870destroy them by eating them.
>>32210886It may be possible...They seem to have already started a discussion about something.
>>32210886I would approve. Get the nutrient brick (or a worm) to nibble on. If anyone asks, we just wished to be near our hive-comrade Lee!
>>32210886I 100% support this action.
>>32210907I'm realizing belatedly that one of our digger drones with their sonar-tier echolocation sensitivity would be good for eavesdropping at great distances too.Something to consider for later. If no spy flies.
>>32210886I'll second this
>>32210860>Attempt to sneak to the tent and eavesdrop>Don't, it's too risky (progress to next day)
>>32210947oh man is it "roll for stealth" time?
>>32210947>Don't, it's too risky (progress to next day)
>>32210947>Attempt to sneak to the tent and eavesdropOnly if we can mantain a decent distance. Speaker drone is not very subtle. And not very hard to see.
>>32210947>Attempt to sneak!!!
>>32210947>Attempt to sneak to the tent and eavesdropLet's curl up near there and pretend to sleep.
>>32210968True, I support.>>32210955With our Mantis-shrimp colored drone, yes.
>>32210947>>Don't, it's too risky (progress to next day)different drone
>>32210947>Attempt to sneak to the tent and eavesdrop
>>32210947>Attempt to eavesdropRoll 1d100, best of 3
Rolled 93>>32210987We've stated before that we do not need sleep. This is a relatively viable excuse if we get caught though: >>32210910>>32211005
>>32210999None are nearby, man. This is a one time convo.Though we could lay maybe one or two as small as possible flier scout drones later yeah.
Rolled 91>>32211005Worst case scenario they see and and stop talking
Rolled 64>>32211005Here we go!
Rolled 51>>32211005tempted to stop rolling to avoid critfail cuz a 93 but
Imagine how it looks to them.A monster, being friendly. Too friendly. Yet clearly lying to you about something. Hiding something.And you swore you scouted upstream before and found it uninhabited. And Zoey and company found that weird organic pod in the wake of that big impact sound.
>>32211010Closeness with honorary drone Lee plan is a go.
>>32211069Fair, our only real hope is that they've been too stressed out by everything that's been going on to put 2 and 2 and 3 and 4 together. (Which is not an unreasonable presumption).Intel Analysts who read the debriefings will connect the dots though, but by then we should be firmly established.
>>32211069In their diminished state, I'm not particularly worried about their paranoia. I've favored supporting them as convenient so far for the intelligence opportunites on factions beyond this "sphere" and possible tech opportunities.
>>32211069Meh. Just not seeing it anon
>>32211169I just hope one of their wounded is beyond saving and expires so we can nab the body without it being too squashed like the others.
>>32211005why not take one of the dead bodies the human's put in there morgan instead of skipping to the next morning?
>>32211362What? Waltzed up to the morgue and walk out with a dead body?Are you crazy?
>>32211362>I have no idea wtf is going on here but I like itEven not knowing what's going on, you're being very foolish if you think no one will be around to notice activity in the 'morgue'.Or wherever they keep the bodies.Also leaving camp would be suspicious and require going past the guards on perimeter duty. Duhhhh.
>>32211005You can't take it anymore. The nagging curiosity is too much!Your speaker drone gets up, and it is only now that you realize just how loud the foliage is as it crumples under foot. Even still, you slowly make your way to the tent, antennae held low in an effort to make out their conversation. As you get closer the light from the tent's interior begins to lightly illuminate your drone's vibrantly colored carapace. You immediately regret making your speaker so incredibly brightly colored..."I think he's nice.""You think everything is nice, Lee, that's how you lost every credit you had last shore leave to those Taidarens.""But they looked honest enough."A woman's voice, hushed yet stern comes through."They can't physically make facial expressions! How are you telling me they looked honest? Taidarens can't even own property outside of Hydra, damnit!""Lee, just tell us what you think so far." Is that Seiner?"I told you. I think he's nice.""They. You mean they." Seiner again... "I think they are a gestalt intelligence that uses radio waves to communicate. I'm still trying to figure out how they adapt so quickly though. Have they said anything about it?""What? No. I mean, it's weird talking to...them, I guess. It's hard to explain. Like talking to somebody on the phone.""Probably something to do with their intelligence. You're likely talking with most, if not all of them at once."Grey's voice speaks up now."Look, after we crashed something fell from orbit. It was gone the next damn day after something chased us away from it. Did you see it when you were in their hive?""No.""Are you sure?""Yes, sir, I am sure." You can sense a certain amount of aggravation in the statement.You can hear Grey sigh. "Ok, Lee. Just keep an eye on that thing until the fleet gets here. This system is supposed to be secure. If these things are civilized, or god forbid space-fairing we have a whole other book of protocols.""Understood, Sir." Lee makes to leave.
>>32211424Forgot to change my name from a different thread. I'm up to date with this one.Also, its dark and they can't SEE to the fence. pretty sure the bodies are in a TENT or somewhere away from the others. if we sneak workers in and have them stick to the darkness, we could smuggle a body out.>>32211400
>>32211449fuck just go in and admit we're space faring alreadythis is getting old
>>32211449hide and wait until Lee leave's, Then speak to him abit later." What will your people do to us if we exist when more of you come?
>>32211449>Then we have a whole other book of protocolsEvil insect mode piqued and ready for engagement. If these niggers think they can take on the Hive then they'll have another thing coming.
>>32211449Lee's figure moves for the flap of the tent, which you are standing rather close to...>Move back away from the tent as quickly and (hopefully) as quietly as possible>Lay down and remain still and hope Lee doesn't see you.>Make something up and play dumb>Other
>>32211449>If these things are civilized, or god forbid space-fairing we have a whole other book of protocols."Welp>>32211510Nope
>>32211449Haha time to get caught!
>>32211524Hope someone has a good write-in.
>>32211524>>Lay down and remain still and hope Lee doesn't see you.
>>32211449>space-fairingI LOVE the Space Fairs!
>>32211524Pretend we're foraging for food?
>>32211524>PANIC, COMMIT SUICIDE
>>32211524>Make something up and play dumbWe wished to know what was inside that food, It was rather easy to eat and wished to know the secrets of it.
>>32211579I'll second this
>>32211510I dunno about that, "A whole other book of protocol" is rather forboding.>>32211524uhh, these:>>32211575>>32211579If that doesn't work: >>32211578
>>32211524>>OtherStare at the suddenly very interesting electric worms on the floor.or"It is unbecoming to speak harshly of ones' benefactors."
>>32211579No, no.We forgot to ask if we could use technology like they used for the fence to attract food.Only we'd have it on a lower setting obviously.
>>32211524>Make something up and play dumbKnock"Is the one called Lee here? This one wishes to discuss the meaning of the word "Banging".
>>32211578We dooo have that self-dissolution gland in there....
>>32211524lee should be the hives wiafu
>>32211579>that food, It was rather easy to eatIt would be odd to only ask about it now. We first ate it in like thread 4.
>>32211612That's better...not particularly convincing though.
>>32211593it's not foreboding at allthese guys have given no indication that they harbor even the slightest ill-intent towards other intelligent speciesyall are getting too carried away with shadowruns
>>32211645the ration he ate and split a small piece off for us.
>>32211651>these guys have given no indication that they harbor even the slightest ill-intent towards other intelligent speciesThey hid their own secret plans of conquest by correcting themselves when they called the Texas part of the "frontier expansion fleet". Claimed it was merely "patrolling this part of space".They're expansionists like we are. they won't tolerate competition.
>>32211663I...know that. it's the exact same emergency-rations nutrient rectangle.
>>32211663Yeah, we first ate it in Thread 4.>>32211651I was actually arguing against the shadowruns people, but this has me spooked. "Civilized or, god forbid, space-faring" would indicate that somewhere something bad is going to happen if they discover our tech level.
>>32211686Then the plan is simple.We into space.
>>32211651Actually, they might. Kinda. It's possible they pseudo-annex upstarts. We know they've uplifted species before, and I'd be surprised if it wasn't massively favorable to them.Now, we don't -need- uplifting, but we're not in any shape to engage in interstellar politics.
>>32211449>>32211524Well. We might have to kill them after all.
>>32211723>arguing against the shadowruns peopleSuch a FOOLISH anon you were.
>>32211737We could pull the countless worlds under command of the swarm tactic if it gets to that point lol
>>32211723Well we ARE supposed to be ACTING dumb, and this help reforcens we are not the BRIGHTEST speices on the world. WE wanna be dumb as LONG as possible to them.
>>32211686>>32211723they've got their hands full with the unitya one planet spacefaring race would go down as a footnoteand if we tell them now they won't freak out when they see we have other incredibly advanced technologythat would scare them a lot more, thinking we went from stone age to space exploration in a few months
>>32211746Should have let the herds squash them. Told you.>>32211760>countless worlds under command of the swarm tacticWhat.>lolAre you lost, little boy?
>>32211760At the point that I would be comfortable frankly admitting our advancement, yes that would ideally be a plausible outcome. That time is not now.
>>32211777That would destroy their valuable technology.
>>32211771>a one planet spacefaring race would go down as a footnoteCorrection: it would be low-hanging fruit. they'd assume it'd be easy to nip in the bud early before it becomes a problem.
>>32211777Letting them get squashed would have meant we didn't get this bit of info that helps characterize their faction. If necessary, we should be able to wipe them out ourselves. I don't think it is though.
>>32211524Current favored options seem to be.>PANIC, SELF DESTRUCT! (Rupture chemical glands to cause rapid decomposition)>Hide in the darkness>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.>Other
>>32211605Voting for this.
>>32211771They'd most likely aggressively recruit a one-planet spacefaring race into their alliance. Especially if they thought that doing so could help establish a foothold in a contested sector.
>>32211815We already knew they were suspicious of us. Well, the smart anons did.We already knew they were a people of rules and regulations without flexibility, for varying levels of advancement as they define it.We already knew about their "frontier expansion" manifest destiny thing.The only new information is that phrase, "god forbid".
>>32211827Ask lee about the food that was given as it has improved upon your body.
>>32211827>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.I rather like the food choice myself.
>>32211802If they thought that way, they would have just wiped us out by now. After all, if a one planet space-faring race is easy pickings, a one-planet stone age race would be even easier.>>32211849k, we could join their alliance
>>32211827>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.Specifically about the fence. If it's possible to make it less powerful as a hunting lure.
>>32211827>Ask Lee something"Lee, the Hive would like to know about that food you gave to this drone."
>>32211827>>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.Electric lures for food. Can we have some?
>>32211865>>32211874Again, its the same food we got days ago when we first sent the speaker to the humans.
>>32211867>wiped us outNot wiped us out. They would use us as a resource. Possibly conquered, strong armed into working for them, agree to their rules and limits. Stone age people aren't useful.
>>32211827"Lee, this one has been wondering...why did you hunt so much food? Would you be willing to assist the Hive with your...bait?"
>>32211777Its called a bluff, faggot.
>>32211827>Ask Lee something, and act like you didn't hear anything.I like the thing about the fence. We believe that through modification, it would make an effective lure for food.
>>32211897Well, we need an excuse. And food is a decent one.
>>32211867On your first point, these are crash survivors on an alien world. They were never looking for a fight. Since then, they've got severely diminished by enemy action. They also didn't know about us. There's basically no reasonable way that they could have or would have wanted to "wipe us out".On your second point, I'd rather not. Huge reduction in autonomy, potential expansion, and it'd make the Unity our enemies. I'd like to learn more about them first.
>>32211862>>32211865>>32211874Food is stupid.Ask about sharing electric lure technology since they don't want it.>>32211925> And food is a decent one.No it isn't. Tech we recently discovered a use for is infinitely better than something we ate days and days ago.
>>32211912"Lee... we would ask assistance in.. mastering your... bait."
>>32211951WHY would we ask them something about the electric right NOW?Did they NOT just seem aggressive or WORRIED about us being advanced?
>>32211951And if Lee is all "muh regulations", comment on how his species' rules seem quite stifling.
>>32211909I feel confident in our ability to hide progress from them if this happens. Especially since we develop everything organically.
>>32211909This anon gets it.Stone-age race means that we're a useless novelty. Enslavement wouldn't get political approval, enlightenment would fuck with us too hard, so we're mostly left alone.A Space-faring race is an equal, but we would be in an incredibly weak position for negotiating the treaties they would want.People are freaking out a bit more than is warranted though. They've got no solid proof just yet and we sure won't give them any.
>>32211951Sorry, allow me to modify my statement to appeal to your autism:Food, in general and as a topic, provides a decent excuse- due to the fact they believe us to be primitive and primitives tend to wonder where their next meal will come from.
>>32211966Approving.Lee waifu best waifu.
>>32211970This isn't being advanced. This is a perfectly primitive-compatible desire for them to share an advancement we clearly lack.
>>32211980And if we accidentally give them solid proof, well there are only 7 witnesses who are capable of fighting back.
>>32211966I do enjoy that.Out of all the humans I like Lee the most.
>>32211449>how they adapt so quickly though.Ah, yes.Our inexplicable obtainment of vocal cords in a freshly hatched drone 2 days after meeting a human.
>>32212015Everything they have RUNS on power. If we learn that, then we may spook them into thinking we will attack them or something. i'm basing my thoughts here on them being spooked, and very scared humans. we can ask them LATER. Not right now, espply when it seems we are listening IN on them.
>>32212069And how fast we developed projectile weapons after seeing them.
>>32211827Lee emerges from the tent, and for a moment looks around himself wide-eyed as he exits into the darkness. It isn't until he nearly bump's into you that he notices you. He jumps instinctively at the sudden sight."Jesus, you scared the shit out of me.""The hive could use assistance with hunting more food. Would you be able to tell how those devices call to the herd?" You blurt out, pointing a claw to the fence.Surely even Lee see's through your lie. It's too obvious!"Oh, sure. They just pump electricity through the cables. The're supposed to keep things away though, not call them closer. I don't think the commander would appreciate me showing you how it works though."Well, it was a good question, you think to yourself.
>>32212086They don't know we have projectile weapons at all.Only that we probably took down 2 Unity drones and left them a flaming wreck.
>>32212086Not sure they know about our projectile weapons yet. We killed the drones secretly. Shot the bugs and the flying things secretly too.
>>32212086It should be noted that they have yet to see your warriors or their weapons.
>>32212094>I don't think the commander would appreciate me showing you how it works though."Sweet, dutiful Lee.Always cockblocked by the superior officer!
>>32212017Indeed, and we will have the element of surprise.
>>32212094Oh right. No night vision.Well that was a waste of worrying.
>>32212094So we are caught then? Fucking hell.------Ask Lee what will happen to us whenever more of his kind arrive?
>>32212094This is why Lee is best human.Now on to the next turn!
>>32212094"You are certain you can not help us master your bait?"
>>32212094"Thank you Lee-kun. ~"
>>32212137tiss why I said we could STEAL a body at night.
>>32212138Are you sure you're caught up with this quest?You seem so new and dim witted.ADVANCE TO NEXT DAY ALREADY
>>32212173Yes and they're missing one the next morning. No nothing suspicious here officer.
>>32212138Caught? What the hell are you talking about?>>32212174Agreed.>Advance to the next day >>32212094
>>32212177*pomf* what're we gonna do in da mushroom Lee?
>>32212094Lee walks off to a small hole dug into one of the trees and rests for the night. The tent is still active, but they appear to have moved on to some trivial holograms once more, judging by the soft glow.Writing next day now.
>>32212173They have GUARDS.They were too far to see us far within the perimeter but the whole point of guards is they can see far enough along the fence itself to cover it if we try to leave!
>>32212174Lack of sleep, its 3:31am here>>32212241>>32212217>>32212215Alright I'll stop with stealing the bodies. But just remember it was for science... and the hive
>>32212094>They just pump electricity through the cables.We can do that. Bio-electricity, motherfuckers. Lets let the thinkers ponder this and then lay some battery drones.
>>32212263Technically we can just pump electricity from deep within the earth.
>>32212263We could, but once they're gone. Don't bite off so much while there are watchers.
life pods time? life pods time.Hope the Thinkers finish their human tech interfacing in time for it.
>>32212239Nutrients 155Metals 35>Eat giant beetle>Save for research>Current research updateYour thinkers report that they have made progress with the Unity drone, but have reached a block. They have designed a way to interface with the drone but require resources to produce a prototype. It will require testing, but they are optimistic as always.12 Nutrients5 Metals>Yes>No (pause Unity Tech Interfacing)
>>32212263We just need to find a creature with a battery in it. Like a space camel's hump but for electricity not water.Then we can harvest electricity from underground and bring it where we need it.
>>32212374>Save for research>Yes
>>32212374save for research, WE ONLY HAVE 1 guysyes
>>32212374>Save for research>YesI figure we can get the nutrients we need from normal hunting
>>32212374>>Save for research>>32212374>>Yes
>>32212374>Save for research>Yes>Extra: Lay 5 Thinkers
>>32212374>Save for research>YesWe can eat it if we get desperate later, I guess.
>>32212405Yeah, our research is kind of piling up...
>>32212405>>Extra: Lay 5 ThinkersAnon stahp.that will cost 30 nutrients.as is, we will starve in 3 days. that will shorten our time to 2 days.food first.
>>32212427Farms are en-route tomorrow. We can hunt if needbe.
>>32212474>Farms are en-route tomorrow.I forget where QM said exactly when they'd be completed by.And we don't have any idea how many nutrients those will provide per day yet, do we?
>>32212490I think it'll be a little while before they're up to full yield anyway.
>>32212425You can't have too many researchers.
>>32212374That farm needs to hurry up, really need to counter that nutrient cost of upkeep.
>>32212536But you can lay drones too fast before our food supply is either steady or buffered up enough.
>>32212560Eh, It really is piling up though and we can scavenge if needbe.>>32212405Supporting.
>>32212591Scavenge first, build a fat buffer, *then* commit to more drones.
>>32212591I'm pretty sure we already have a few in the works.
>>32212374>save for research>approve prototype150 Nutrients35 MetalsYour diggers have made good progress towards the intended dig site, in another day they will hopefully begin to bring in a steady stream of metal alloys, in similar news the workers are well on their way to finishing the chamber for the algae farm, and should be finished in another two days, although it may take longer for a full harvest to come in. (Will produce 500 nutrients per day once complete. Can be upgraded later.)>Research complete - flyer dissectionYour thinkers report with glee that they have completed the dissection of the predatory flyer. The creature is quite large, and supports it bulk in the air through a combination of air bladders in the wings and a series of methane fueled, naturally evolved ramjets. It would be a simple matter to create a drone with these, although it would make it rather large and totally remove its ground based effectiveness. Such a drone would be incredibly fast, but would have a poor turning radius, and would be unable to walk or climb, reducing it to purely an air based role. In addition, you have refined your methods of radar detection, increasing the effectiveness of your antenna.You now have two thinkers idle.
>>32212641Could we not use millipede-like legs on the bottom of the flyer to grant it some measure of mobility in its 'hangar'?
>>32212641Items of interest>Lightning gunVery slow, potential of failure and destruction of sample device>Human environment suitVery Slow, a bulky looking, yet light weight suit composed of tightly woven fabric and small metallic plating covering the chest and forearms. The suit seems to react to injury to the user, and contains a number of devices the humans use to make up for their frail physical structure and sensitive biology. Study of this technology could offer insight into any number of research fields.>Human technology interfacingYou have determined that the small device you retrieved from the human camp is some kind of artificial data storage. Physically it is worthless, but if you were to spend the time to develop a way to interface your thinkers with it the data within may prove well worth the effort.>Boost current research (Unity interfacing, Human tech interfacing)>Start new research>Other>>32212621You currently have 1 refinery drone that will hatch the next day.
>>32212641Unity WeaponryAccelerate Farm construction
>>32212641>>Research benefits of giant beetleLighting gun
>>32212641>ExtraDisguise/Hide the Radar drone.>>32212690>Boost current researchUnity Interfacing.
>>32212690>>Human technology interfacing>You have determined that the small device you retrieved from the human camp is some kind of artificial data storage. Physically it is worthless, but if you were to spend the time to develop a way to interface your thinkers with it the data within may prove well worth the effort.This. We need to figure out exactly what their "different set of protocols" are if they find out we aren't rock-bangers.
>>32212690What about the giant beetle?>>32212685Find a millipede-like creature to research if you want that, probably?
>>32212690>Boost current research (Unity interfacing, Human tech interfacing)I'd say boost the Human Tech Interface so we can speed that up.
>>32212690>Boost current research (Human tech interfacing)
>>32212694sorry lemme fix that>>32212690>>Unity Drone salvage>The physical components of the drone are quite interesting. Opening it up and taking a closer look would give you a much better idea of how the device works (grants small bonus against Unity drones, and unlocks weapon, armor, and propulsion research options)and accelerate Farm construction
>>32212685More efficient to just have workers cart it around. No need to make aircraft that don't require a ground crew.
>>32212690>Human tech interfacingAnd maybe farm construction.>>32212722Fair enough.
>>32212685It would be able to scoot around on its legs, yes, but it would be about as effective as a modern airplane, so very slow and cumbersome.
>>32212690>>Boost current research Human tech interfacing.>>32212641> finished in another two days, although it may take longer for a full harvest to come in. (Will produce 500 nutrients per day once complete. Can be upgraded later.)So that's a lot.Yet it really will be 500 per day every day once it's completed, and then 5 or 7 days for first crop to reach maturity?
>>32212765As long as it can taxi to its runway.
>>32212690>>Boost current research (Unity interfacing, Human tech interfacing)
>>32212690>Boost current researchHuman tech interfacing>Start new researchHuman environment suit
>>32212825You can't do both.You certainly don't want to dedicate just 1 Thinker to such a very slow research as the suit.
>>32212738Seconding.Can we please hide the antenna though? Have some workers dig it into a superficial silo in the rock so it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb?
>>32212690Put both on our current research
>>32212868But if it's in a silo it will have rock in the way of its reception.We have a guard, and the air is cloudy so nothing can be seen from orbit. We can bring it into the hive later if we need to.
>>32212841I certainly can do both. And getting an idea of what "very slow" means in terms of research timetables appeals to me.
>>32212920Just a superficial silo, the amount of rock oughtn't do anything to hinder its signal too bad.Or shit, disguise it as a mushroom or something but I don't like the idea of it just sitting there.
>>32212871Your thinkers complete the human technology interface. Squishy veins and jellyfish brains are what it's made of. Holographic recordings of human experimentation with biochemical weapons to destroy your people appear in your mind. You're concentrating on these images when alert pheremones spread through the hive. The humans have discovered your base! Artillery bombardment incoming!>1 burrow to withstand the blast>2 spawn fighters to destroy the artillery>3 attempt to relocate your massive shell
>>32212920We don't need a signal right now, so it would be fine stuffing it in a silo.
>>32212969A ruselord already!Man this quest is going places.
>>32212969>>1hangon, we really left the radar drone there all this time, without Anti-air?
>>32212969Uhh, shit.>2>>32212974We could make it retractable, usually stowed hidden in the silo but pull it out when needbe.
>>32212969GET OUTTA HERE FUCKING LIAR>>32213013>>32213013not the same person
>>32212690Looks like most are for boosting Human tech interfacing.>hide antennaYou dedicate several workers to the job. A small pit dug in the rock should offer it a decent place to hide from anyone passing the hive without blocking its reception.>New drone designsseveral frequent and popular proposals>Small and fast winged drone for air patrols. Uses speed to boost cutting power of blades. Can equip Sting Casters, but larger weapons would prevent it from effective flight.>Small, winged "sniffer" drone that forgoes defensive measures for increased maneuverability, speed, and greatly enhanced senses including radar and limited echolocation. Cannot defend itself.>Other
>>32212969Nice try with the trip, but no.
>>32212974We didn't need a signal before either after we already transmitted the requested thing.But we left it out all night anyway and listened for updates.>>32213013>>32213017wow you fuckers are dumb. go to bed. even the euro dumbass didn't fall for it.
>>32212969Not the same person as REAL OP!!JXBy03rxbrE - fake!!tu02dh0DlTY - real OP
>>32212969Sure is some low quality bait.
>>32213031Well, you say we can boost Olfactory antennae at the cost of other senses.What if we max that out as far as we can? What's the tradeoff? How many points can we put into Smell?
>>32213031Small and faster winged drone with sting Casters - 4 dronesSmall winged sniffers - 6This way we have some defense up and also a REAL early warning system.
>>32213031>Small, winged "sniffer" drone that forgoes defensive measures for increased maneuverability, speed, and greatly enhanced senses including radar and limited echolocation. Cannot defend itself.But can we keep some pouches on it? Sacrifice some agility if we must. If we can get those bionades working then we can have a small bomber wing.
>>32213043>DumbI thought it was us experiencing the story inside the Human Disc and getting a chance to influence it. Don't be a twit.
>>32213031>Small, winged "sniffer" drone that forgoes defensive measures for increased maneuverability, speed, and greatly enhanced senses including radar and limited echolocation. Cannot defend itself.A jungle environment means that aerial maneuverability is of comparatively little benefit for combat. I'd rather focus on intel/scouting as our Warriors are entirely adequate for facing threats in my mind.
>>32213076we have 3 days of food, and you want to spend something like a days' worth on laying that many man? come on.let's design things but not lay more than 1 or 2 until we get more scavenged.
>>32213103I.. did not do the math correctly on that one. Never mind.
>>32213076If you want your proposals to be taken seriously you should probably drop your name.
>>32213096>thought it was us experiencing the story inside the Human Disc and getting a chance to influence itSo that... sounds pretty gullible and dumb. It bypasses the whole problem of "humans never met us before" implausibility, but:It didn't sound anything like QuestDrone's style.The research had only 1 Thinker on it, no way was it complete, and they never had a prototype laid for them like the Unity interfacing did?And the username was capitalized wrong, even if you didn't notice the trip.
>>32213075The drone would max out as many senses as possible, at the cost of all other aspects. It would be completely unarmed and its carapace would be too poor to withstand most attacks. It would, however, be decently fast and be able to detect most thing coming miles away.Essentially a very small AWACS.
>>32213140Sounds good to me. If their range is good enough, they can map the whole planet.
>>32213132ya i'll just go back to the one I use for Warhammer threads.>>32213140How small are we talking about here? like.. base ball sized or Nickel sized?
>>32213140Maybe we can send a hunter killer drone for defense.
>>32213140So one or two of those would enhance worker scavenging if it knew the scents of prey previously caught?
Why are all namefags so unintelligent? See>>32213159>>32213160
>>32213164>Worrying about worker scavenging when we're about to get 500 nutrients a dayplz.
>>32213159"hearing/smelling things coming" is not what it takes for "mapping".also what. did you just join?
>>32213211Because they're attention whores.
>>32213159Die monster! You don't belong in this world!
>>32213211I've found that just about everyone who feels the need to namefag on here when it isn't required has some form of autism.
>>32213211It's because only a very particular type of person would want to use a name on an anonymous image board.
>>32213219In like 5 or 7 days when you include whatever time it takes to grow the first crop.
>>32213211QMs are namefags too, so you can't generalize like that. Not all are like the ones you quoted.
>>32213159It's a small AWACS. SMALL.And there's also the problem of predators flying in the goddamn skies. It would be a waste of our precious resources spawning them.
>>32213267spawning them in large numbers to "map the region", yes it would.as scouts, however, and possibly spies to eavesdrop on the human conversations from a safe distance? or bloodhound trackers?a few are worthwhile.
>>32213160About four to five feet in length.Sniffer drone could find and track potential prey, keep tabs on potential threats (such as flyers) or serve as airborne scouts.The flying warriors (I think the anon that proposed it called them wasps?) Would be able to quickly respond to threats, protect sniffers, and engage in hit-and-run attacks on larger, stronger foes, although there low damage output would limit them to the "thousand cuts" strategy in most situations. They would posses a high damage, but high risk dive bomb attack, however.Sniffer 8 cost, 4 upkeepWasp 10 cost, 5 upkeep
>>32213302I really wouldn't call it small then per-say. I take back my thoughts on using them. If we can get them smaller then they would be great for scouting and spys.
>>32213266QM's have a reason to use a name. Anyone namefagging without a reason acts at best like a high functioning autist.
>>32213302I like the Sniffer. Not in love with the Wasp yet, I'd put off laying any of those.2 Sniffer drones only. max Olfactory. Curious, does this mean it has max eyesight too? any better than normal?
>>32213302If we made the Sniffer 2 feet instead, I think you said that was the minimum controllable drone size.... what would we have to give up?
>>32213345Yeah, that's what I meant. They're using their name when they need it instead of as a username or some shit.
>>32213264This reminds me: how much worker labor is going to be tied up by running the farm, or will Infrastructure handle most of that?
>>32213348Vision on this planet is limited by constant fog, rain, or thick spore clouds. It would have normal eyesight, which seems better than humans at least, but it would primarily use its radar and echolocation abilities.
>>32213302I would say we make a Sniffer and they should always have at least two "wasps" with them for protection.
>>32213374>>32213345I personally enjoy having a username on any site, but haven't made a real account as of yet on this sense i'm not on it enough. + changing the name at random is kinda cool.>>32213302Have we ever gone back to research that drone who was ripped from our control and spawned abunch of alien things? -Quest number 3-
>>32213344Four or five feet in length is basically human size. Humans are great for scouting and spies. It's also really small for long-range sensor equipment.
>>32213429we have radar? as in radio waves?>>32213441i'd rather be cheap right now and trust in its ability to run the fuck away when it detects a threat at a great distance.
>>32213448Dear god you're retarded.
>>32213369Everything would need to scale down in effectiveness, so it would have a fraction of the range of detection, and gusts of wind would pose a danger to it.
>>32213448As long as you're ok with people assuming you're retarded. Because that's the impression namefags like you leave.
>>32213429Sounds good to me. Lay two.
>>32213466Question: does the algae farm require Worker labor to run? If so, how much? Ballpark.
>>32213448>real accountLook at this pleb. Hasn't even upgraded to 4chan Gold yet.
>>32213419Infrastructure will provide water as needed, but harvesting at a reliable rate would require one worker per 100 nutrients per day, so with the current size it would need 5 workers to function.
>>32213504and we don't know how many days after the 2 days of construction it will take before the first nutrients we get from it?
>>32213504That shouldn't be much of an issue.
>>32213486Honestly i'm fine with people calling me names over the internet. However I do wish somebody would answer my question as to wither we have sent drones back to the fungi infected drone that climbed up a shrome and blew up with spores coming out of it.
>>32213489I concur.Their speed and early warning system is all they need to keep themselves safe.Eavesdropping and scouting drones are go.
>>32213530why would we bother answering a namefags questionyou aren't smartyou won't do anything useful with the informationgo away
We need to focus more on food. Even if we get the farm up in time it apparently will take some time to get a harvest in. We should get more drones, or at least dedicate our remaining drones to getting food.>>32213448Jesus Christ just kill yourself already.
>>32213530No, no we haven't. Personally, I want to wait till we're not dealing with the humans. Or at least not babysitting them.
>>32213584Thank you for answering me and good point. Hopefully OP adds that to research list.
>>32213566>We need to focus more on food>We should get more dronespfffhahaaahah. Nice contradiction mate.The key is dedicating like 10 drones to go out hunting, not laying more first, which costs a bunch of nutrients up front.
>>32213566Peeling drones off of the work means that they'll take longer to complete the farm.How about we eat the beetle and just acquire another one at a later date.
>>32213614Probably too late for that particular drone to be particularly informative. We could infect another at basically any time though, if we wanted. I'd want an off-base research centre set up though, just to be safe.
>>32213525No, this will be your first attempt at farming it, however in tests it almost immediately started growing like a weed, so your best estimate is around two days to start getting a small amount, and a week or more for the full harvest to come in.>>32213530When the body began spewing infectious spores, you elected to quarantine the area and have avoided it since with a very wide berth.>Produce no new drones>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)>Lay 2 wasps (20 nutrients, 10 per day)
>>32213626That sounds good to me.Oh, thread's about to drop off.
>>32213504I'd vote for 2 Wasps and 1 sniffer, and then rededicating drones to scavenging for food.>>32213626That's that I wanted but anons voted to keep it for study before I got here. It would solve a lot of trouble to just eat it.
>>32213636>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)
>>32213637>>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)wait what? you said it was 8/4 and 10/5 before did you double everything?
>>32213626The beetle is, for lack of a better term, the woolly mammoth of the planet. It would offer quite a decent boon, but hunting it would prove quite deadly.
>>32213637>Lay 2 sniffers>ExtraEat the beetle. We can get another one for research later. Hell, we might even be able to ask the humans for the ones that they killed at their camp.
>>32213668Well there's 2 of each.
>>32213637>>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)Okay do this only.we spies now>>32213659we don't need any Wasps. sniffers are good at detecting danger to run from before it's dangerous.
>>32213637>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)Not too worried about them surviving just yet.
>>32213668that is total cost, for both.
>>32213674That doesn't intimidate this unit of the consensus. We have smarts, technology, and coordination.
>>32213636>>32213637danke--->>32213659this for layingKeep the Beetle, it may be useful we can eat the other's from the camp.
>>32213618How much up front do they cost again? I thought they were like 5 each and had a fast hatching time.
>>32213677Seconding that.>>322137175 each, 1 (maybe 2?) days to hatch.
>>322137172 days. and we don't have a lot to spare, we will be almost out of food in 3 days if we don't scavenge today or tomorrow and lay nothing.it makes no sense to solve the food problem by laying more scavengers *now*.
>>32213637>Lay 2 sniffers (16 nutrients, 8 per day)>Lay 2 wasps (20 nutrients, 10 per day)
>>32213637>Lay two sniffer drones (16 nutrients, 8 per day)and lastly,>Eat the beetle>Save it for research
You know, we could always ask the humans if they mind if we take the other giant beetles lying around their camp.
>>32213712Which could easily wipeout our warriors even with all that.>>32213753>Save it for research
>>32213767Okay we do that, but save this one. it's more intact and fewer lightning burns. Eat the humans' ones.
>>32213753save it for research> Ask Humans using speaker drone if we may have the dead beetle's from the attack.
>>32213753>eat the beetle>ask humans for one of the dead beetles
>>32213753>Save it for research
>>32213753>Save it for researchbut> Ask Humans using speaker drone if we may have the dead beetle's from the attack.
>>32213712Actual field experience should intimidate you.We only took down ONE of the behemoths because we rolled a 99. this was after it squashed one of our warriors, our strongest, almost to death.
>>32213753Eat the beetle.
>>32213753>Save it for research, and ask humans for the smoldering, cooked ones.I think that will be where we start off next thread, since we are already on page 9.I'll stick around till 404 for questions, comments, feedback and all that good stuff. Feel free to pitch drone designs still though, I'll just save them for next thread.
>>32213827No questions, just thanks for running as usual. I look forward to next time.
>>32213827Bio-Generator Drone, is that currently feasible?
>>32213753>Eat the beetleAnd ask the humans for theirs.>>32213801It was 2 warriors versus a mammoth, if we came at it with our full 5 it wouldn't be much of a task to take one down.
>>32213827shoot. no actions for this next day?we tend to stay on page 9 a long time.
>>32213827Being on page 9 doesn't mean much on /tg/. It could still be an hour and a half or more before we drop.You don't run often enough to cheat us of this!
>>32213858We had an 83 or something and our warriors still took significant injury.
>>32213886Look, if Cro-Magnons can take down mammoths with Atl-atls then we can hunt these fuckers with bio-engineered killing machines.That aside, I'd wager that it'll give us somewhere in the hundreds of nutrients so losing X many warriors would still turn back a net positive.
>>32213858The only reason we succeeded was because we were lucky. Even with our full 5 there is a good chance we'd fail.
>>32213827you never described the beetlehemoth as a potential research subject to put Thinkers on. what's it say potential wise?
>>32213946Then we'll send ten at it and a swarm of drones. Or we'll drive them off a cliff, or we'll poison their food, or any number of things.
>>32213927These things are obviously considerably more formidable than mammoths considering that they can individually crush their way through giant trees and the fact that rifle-equivalent projectiles bounce off of them with frequency.The mammoth comparison is a rough one given to us by the QM. The QM that also said that hunting these things would be significantly dangerous.
>>32213856>Bio-generatorYes, and technically it is included in every drone. Technically speaking, all of them run on chemical based internal combustion engines that run off nutrients, including many things you have yet to make, such as ships.>>32213858Yes, but that was two against one, attacking an entire herd would probably go a little differently. They are herbivores as far as you can tell, but have the temperament of a hippo and the skin of an Abrams tank.>>32213882True, but I want to dedicate the end of the thread to drone making so it doesn't hinder quest progression, I just wanted to make sure that if anyone wasn't interested in that they would know what's up.I would like to run more often, but if I did it would be spur of the moment things and I wouldn't be able to set up a regular schedule.
>>32213994>spur of the moment thingswith twitter that works fine actually. several other quests don't have a regular schedule like HMQ and SQ. how much advance notice for twitter is 'spur of the moment'?
>>32213994Even a couple hours notice on the twitter might be enough. Not really sure what kind of prospective player base you have to run with. Doesn't -feel- huge, but it can be hard to tell.
>>32213994these herd creatures do they look more like the avatar herd creatures that ripped the humans to shards at the end of the movie? Also what is the research information for actually researching these beetles?
>>32213994>Yes, but that was two against one, attacking an entire herd would probably go a little differently. They are herbivores as far as you can tell, but have the temperament of a hippo and the skin of an Abrams tank.If that's the case we could send hundreds at and still fail.
>>32213827Can we design new weapons?I'd like a larger rifle designed for hitting the predators of this planet where it hurts. Preferably the projectile would incorporate metal for penetrative purposes, and also be able to carry a payload (such as acid from the Refinery Drone) that it could deliver.
>>32213953Sorry about that. I'll fill out the research fluff next thread, but the gist is super strong armor research. A little tweaking with the genes and some added metal alloy and it would be on par with a heavy armored vehicle. Too heavy for a warrior, but useful for any big siege drone you may build, or to armor space-fairing drones.
>>32214053Or for larger warrior drones, or for armoring our hive doors with.
>>32214036No need for that. Do it proper predator style. Isolate weaker elements of the herd, old or sick, then take it out with superior firepower. They don't have armor on their undersides right? We should turn the bionades into land mines.
>>32214053Ah. Something to save for later then. Low priority.Technology is more interesting so far.
>>32214036Personally, I assume we'd either try to separate one from the pack and kill it alone or work on those human Zap guns, which seemed to work slightly better than our rifles.
>>32214082Exactly, there are any number of ways to take out non-sentient entities that they can't see coming.
>>32214092>separate one from the packand how would you actually do that? in a way that assures you or it won't draw the attention of all the others?
>>32214082If we knew more about how their senses worked, might be able to lay burrows in their paths, strike from underneath.
>>32214108Generally predators just wait for one to wander too far.We have other options at our disposal. Tunneling, using explosions to scatter the herd, using electricity to lure them out or enrage them, developing a big-game-hunter/sniper rifle to pick them off from a distance, etc.
>>32214119well that means we research the beetle's sooner then later.
>>32214134no, we're not hunting the beetlehemoths.not with farms coming online.
>>32214082Must of those tactics would fail due to them living in the middle of the plains.
>>32214022I would try to give at least a few days notice, but I often don't know if I'm working until that same day, and I frequently run two tabletop campaigns on the weekends.Maybe one day I'll get laid off and can run all week.>>32214037Yes.The major drawback of your species is that inventions are rare when only one in every few billion people are sentient. The thinkers can innovate and reverse engineer like crazy, but they can't for the life of them come up with anything new.>>32214073Yup
>>32214082>superior firepowerdid you see what our firepower even did to their armor?
>>32214169Just 6 hours notice is more than enough honestly though.
>>32214169So, are you going to mechanically penalize us for our lack of sentient beings...or just let our imaginations run and write it off as our queen being particularly clever/in an unusual situation?
>>32214156we have the beetle for research still, + whatever ones the human's will give to us.>>32214169Question, Can we spawn more Queen's or something more sentient then thinkers? Maybe a inbetween or do our warrior's have that ability to be upgraded?
>>32214158Why? How the plains do anything to mitigate those tactics?>>32214174Yes I know. That's why we need more gun. Or traps or what have you. We know they can die, just a matter of making it happen.
>>32214108We induce a similar situation to what happened tonight. Set up some sort of electrical generator, preferably on a lower output than the fence. Once they start stampeding we turn it off and allow our warriors to attack one or two of them. Either ones that split off after we turn it off or those that look injured already.
>>322141693-4 hours notice would be fine mang.>>32214208Just ignore whoever that is, he'll continue to shoot down legitimate tactics no matter what.
>>32214205>sentientDon't. We don't need that trouble, at all.
>>32214234Don't worry, no one will ever listen/vote for his plans.
>>32214208Eh, it's not a huge priority. I DO support weapons research in order to face, you know, metal-wearing jerks from space if need be.I think our next big step should be drastic expansion of our infrastructure though.
>>32214234Something like a lesser queen to help pump out babies and lead indepent mining outposts, but loyal as hell and still falls under our control?
>>32214208We still have Flyers to worry about and there's nowhere to hide.
>>32214277>queen>but loyal as hell and still falls under our control?
>>32214254Well we've actually already got the drastic expansion of our infrastructure bit down because the farms are coming online and the mine will open for business tomorrow.We're in the transitional stage. After the farm is online we'll need to boost our manpower massively.
>>32214277There's no need to have independent mining outposts when we can build psionic relays and have a massive psionic range anyway you fuckwit.
>>32214310Fair enough, I forgot about the psionic relays.We are fucking zerg btw, ZERG
>>32214277We can feasibly create drone structures that are specialized to create a single pattern of drone as directed by us. We could also be delegating a lot more drone control to the Thinkers than we are. Part of it is that our environment is so wild and unknown.
>>32214287Oh you mean how various creatures have adapted to listen to each other when wary of predators?Or do you mean the possibility of being eaten?Either is a fairly legitimate concern but the lack of trees in a plain leads to questions on whether we care.
>>32214333Such amazing insights you have.
>>32214333Yes, however QuestDrone already stated that any other queens would be fully independent beings, and while we could ally with them as their 'spawner' it could go either way.
>>32214296Agreed. A significant workforce should be fun to play with.
>>32214203You will need to come up with anything new yourself, and it would take the form of a very hard research project to genetically engineer such a device from scratch.>>32214205Technically, yes you can spawn queens, however they are very, very resource intensive to produce, as they go through a larval stage in which they devour everything not bolted down before entering a cocoon. The queen would also be in no way beholden to you, and would be free to peruse her own path in life, make her own hive, colonize her own worlds, and potentially compete with you for resources. She would still recognize you as her mother and would by default be on good terms with you, but it would be more like dealing with a neighboring Feudal lord than a daughter.>>32214254Infrastructure (the gooey wall slime every insectoid alien race simply must have) will actually grow into new rooms as you build them. This will slowly increase upkeep cost from the current negligible amount to a potentially decent amount. I will let you know if when you need to start paying for it.>>32214277You are thinking of a remote egg sack, and yes I thought up just that to avoid the inevitable arguments over making queens They are essentially organic gene labs that you can transmit new designs to and have them lay remotely, so you can colonize other planets without ferrying millions of drones.
>>32214369Thank you for that information and also not calling me a fucktard within 3seconds. Well good luck and night OP.
>>32214369>so you can colonize other planets without ferrying millions of drones.... Somehow I honestly never thought about how we'd actually colonize other planets. Glad you've got that covered Guide!
>>32214369Could we alter the Infrastructure so it is powered the planet's electricity?
>>32214421Now *that* would be a hard genetic engineering project.
>>32214421> so it is powered the planet's electricity?what?instead of food?
>>32214421You mean, like, natural electricity generation embedded in the Infrastructure?
>>32214421Hybrid infrastructure electro-algae? An interesting idea. Not sure if it warrants the effort when we can just farm for the food the infrastructure needs.
>>32214460>>32214445Like the moss.
>>32214476Yes, like the moss.
>>32214476That is hardly necessary, since we FARM the moss.So effectively feeding it nutrients from our farm is doing so. If you regard the hive as a single superorganism, it is feeding on electricity.
>>32214335Indeed. Thinkers can boost the effectiveness of drones by micromanaging their activities for greater efficiency.If you control a drone, it has no effects.If you and a thinker control a drone, it gets a buff.If only a thinker controls a drone, it gets a penalty.These apply to all rolls for any action taken by the drone.>>32214361I'm thinking on modeling it after Evil Genius, so you can just set and forget your workforce. I want to avoid time consuming micromanagement if it's possible.>>32214395All are welcome, and I know it's late.>>32214421Well, technically it is, in the same way that all things on Earth are powered by the sun in a non-direct way. (sun feeds plants, plants eaten, animal dies and fossilizes, becomes oil, ect.) Same thing, planet's electrical field feeds the algae, the algae feeds the hive.I will say that cutting out the middle man is possible, but you would need to put a lot more research into it. Once you have had time to observe the algae as it grows in your farm you will understand more of how it works. It may not be cost effective though, since you can always expand the farm.
>>32213429>radar and echolocation abilities.I asked about this--radar? as in radio waves. we have radio transmitters in regular drones like that?
>>32214537Yes. Your recent dissection of the flyer actually helped with its implementation, as it hunts via radar.
>>32214537Well in a super-specialized scout we would.
>>32214557I thought it hunted via sonar. Thread 1 mentioned "infrasonic".But the it noticed our radio transmissions.
>>32214623One of the humans explicitly mentions their radio sensitivity.
>>32214623Did I? If I did I was mistaken in my word use.Honestly, it's one of the least unique animals on the planet, but yes, it hunts by making short, rapid radio bursts and using it like radar. It isn't the most effective radar out there, but it can detect movement rather well. It seems to have trouble distinguishing large objects from large groups of small objects, however. That or it just stays away from groups regardless and only targets lone prey.Thread have been archived. http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest
Human lightning weaponryOn a waspUsed to hunt those big herbivoresThey wouldn't even be able to fight back
>>32214709So could you give us a basic lowdown on our tech levels in basic things?Like what are our specialties. It seems that our warrior's armor is decent when we invest metals into them, but that they're really just meant to be en-masse combatants (which, of course, makes sense). We've only learned of 3 types of ranged weapons we have access to so I can surmise that ranged weaponry isn't really our specialty either...What is traditional warfare like on the homeworld? Just hordes of bugs? How much do hives make use of tactics?Do we have any stealth technology? I like the idea of a stealth/assassination drone designed to...be stealthy and has poison weapons and such. Exactly how good are our sensors? Just because we can make an olfactory unit that can smell everything for miles doesn't mean it can make sense of all that info.What sort of power systems do we use? Entirely biochemical? What's our experience with electricity? To what extent to we hybridize technology and biology?etc.
>>32214957If we can fit enough juice in it to make it fire enough rounds for a small swarm to kill them, then it would totally work.
>>32215030A few strikes from the humans was enough to kill them. We could honestly just make a flying drone and let it use the pistol we recovered to kill a few if we felt like it.
>>32215019Hive-on-Hive warfare in space would likely be similar to other space combat. Hit the enemy first and hard enough to prevent them from hitting you, with the go-to weapon being the railgun, and the go-to plan B being swarms of fighter drones. On the ground it would have a lot more trench warfare, with millions upon millions of warriors smashing into each other and firing off weapons like madmen.Standard tactics would typically involve bombarding any relay sites from orbit, while queens themselves would usually be left targeted both because they would likely be a blood relation and because it would decrease the chance of another hive targeting them directly out of reprisal. If a planet invasion was successful there would be no relays to command the drones, and any thinkers would be incredibly inefficient at mounting a defense by themselves. If relays were properly protected the battle could quickly become a meat grinder.Your sensors are quite effective, but not infallible. If a sniffer knows what its looking for it is much more effective, while if set on a general patrol it may miss something in the massive frenzied mess of conflicting signals.>>32215046Without knowing proper weapon maintenance I would advise against it. The equivalent of a weapon jam for a CIP pistol could be rather unpleasant. Once you reverse engineer it, however, you will be able to manufacture them at will. You also have the Unity drone's weapons to study.
>>32215201>While queens themselves would usually be left UNtargeted.my bad.
>>32215201So no infrared-dampening chitin mixtures and stuff like that for stealth, eh?
>>32215251No, not yet anyway.Your kind's history with invention is few and far between, but once one is made it is almost instantly reverse engineered across the entire species. While you may have fewer inventions of your own, you will be able to quickly pick up just about any tech you can find and innovate it to suit your needs.
>>32215287Nifty. Also, you didn't address cybernetics. Are you going to allow us to do anything with our physiologies, or are we going to need no manufacture actual CIP pistols out of metal and grease?
>>32215321They will be metal heavy just by necessity, but not fully mechanical. It works by ionizing the target with an invisible and harmless beam, and then releasing a bolt of plasma. Essentially replicating a natural lightning strike and directing it at a target. There is a chance of it leaping to other, unintended targets if it offers the path of least resistance, like when Lee shot up the tree.When you start producing reverse engineered weapons they will be partially organic like your others, and can be grafted to warriors in whatever configuration you wish.
>>32215321I just want to know if they're a thing, really. irl there are just some things biology just isn't suited to as well as 'traditional' tech. It would make sense either for [the name of our race] to have developed cybernetics for those applications, or for them to have avoided them or stuck with biology for whatever reasons.
>>32215381Historically, cybernetics is a rare thing. I have no doubt you will be breaking new ground in that field as you uncover new tech. As a rule though, whatever can be made with organic materials is. Cybernetics just picks up the slack.
>>32215377So it's an electrolaser?
>>32215409pretty much. It has a low range and accuracy but high damage.
>>32215377>partially organiccan we make them fully organic?
>>32215508Why would we really want to?
>>32215541in case we have a shortage of metals
>>32215508They require metals for critical components. Where you draw the line between organic and mechanical is up to you, though. Even your warriors are partially made of metal, and you could argue that biotech isn't any different than really advanced nanotech. Definitions on what is and isn't a machine or not start to break down when dealing with genetic engineering.
>>32215561Nice to see a QM who knows that.Your technobabble is strong, what's your job?
>>32215594Shipping. Trying to get in real estate. I'm just a massive sci-fi buff, and love technobabble that sounds like it means something, especially if it's almost true.
>>32215508You really couldn't do that without playing hell with effectiveness. Different materials simply have different tolerances and properties.
>>32215642A pity space operas aren't as popular as they used to be, huh?
>>32215642How much do we know? Or, rather, how many textbooks of our species history and knowledge is crammed into the Queen's brain?And the idea of space ships, fighters, and advanced technology being operated by insect-intelligent, well, insects, who are following orders from immobile dog-brained things amuses me.It reminds me of the book Blindsight, in a way. The drones seemingly lack any understanding of what they're doing other than basic cause and effect, and the BugAutists can't innovate to save their lives.Really, without a queen the entire thing just looks like the blind leading the blind.
>>32215706Not just space opera, but that very special place between space opera and hard sci fi where everything still makes sense so long as you don't have a Phd in physics, but Einstein is told to go fuck himself because FTL is just too damn cool.The Star Carrier series hit the nail on the head with this, and his math is stronger than mine will ever be.>>32215734Or a DMV.
>>32215734Also, as to what you know of your past. You have the general overview of how things work, but no exact details. You know how to make a drone with wings, but not who the first queen to make them was. You know how to make a ship, but not when they were first invented.
>>32215765>Star CarrierWell looks like I got a new series to read. Any other ones you'd recommend?
>>32215765>or a DMVSo, so true.What does a Thinker look like? A larva-looking creature without any legs?>>32215788Genetic memory. Neat.Do we know how any of the space-age tech we'll soon build works (beyond basic physics)?Or is it more like blueprints and less like true knowledge?
>>32215734Given the human understanding of social interactions within a hierarchy, it would look that way. But the reality for a eusocial insect species is much more interesting, and much less hierarchical. They may not share thoughts, but in their instincts and pheromonal method of communication allow them to coordinate massive projects, all without the need of a leader. One seemingly insignificant intelligence becomes an intelligence to rival a mammals, in their case. Bridges, life rafts, ventilation systems demolition, all a matter of a fast acting chemical democracy. The term 'queen' for the reproductive caste is a bit of a misnomer, really.
>>32215868Although in our case, not so much a misnomer at all.
>>32215825Old Man's War is another favorite. It's like if somebody home-brewed Eclipse Phase into Starship Troopers and set it in the Distant Worlds universe.Foundation series is great, as is anything by Azimov ever, but he's usually more on the space opera side of things. I would say the "sweet spot" is what you would get from a fusion of Azimov and Clarke.And of course the obligatory Ender's Game>>32215833I picture a thinker looking kinda like a head-sized beetle. It's legs are actually noodly appendages that serve as biological data cables that it uses to plug into things it needs to control, like hive infrastructure or relays.You know how it all works, you're just not sure how you know.>>32215868A lot of it isn't all that different from nature. The nomadic Arrow ants will assemble themselves into bridges, rafts, ladders, and each day will make a shelter out of interlocking ants to protect the queen, who commands it all through complex lines of chemical bonds handed down a ladder of drones. If the line is broken, the ants enter total chaos, a lot like your own drones.
>>32215892True enough. But it (decision making by means of psychic consensus) could be an option in the future, should the 'hive-mind' with a queen as the psionic anchor become troublesome. But the need for something like that, if it was needed at all, would be far off.
>>32215939Man the Foundation series was great... Anyway thanks QD.
>>32215939>head sized beetleHuh, smaller than I thought.Can we make bigger Thinkers for greater.. thinking?
>>32215974Yeah, I disregard the 2 additional books he wrote later though. They get kinda...yeah.
>>32215985I think that among or basic units the Thinker is the only one we can't really modify.
>>32215999We can modify it. We just need to make a shower and a toilet.Then think long and hard.
>>32215985Bigger brains don't always mean smarter. It's entire body is composed of a brain, and it needs to be fed direct nutrients because it lacks a proper digestive system.>>32215974Thank you for playing, anon.