Guts gets dropped in Middle Earth. He has the ring and knows what it does to people and how to destroy it. But he doesn't have the Berserker Armor.Does he manage to get to Mordor? Does he accept Gollum's help? Would he get corrupted?
>>32015892What in the hell is going to stop him? Even without the Berserker armor he's taken out bigger baddies than anything Middle Earth could throw at him. He's probably fine - He's managed to stay un-corrupted in his crapsack world, at least mostly, fighting through darkness and pain on a very personal scale. Dunno if he'd accept Gollum's help but he's done stranger things. He doesn't have the gentle touch that Bilbo had, though, so he'd probably not get that help.Chances are, the Fellowship goes about as planned, Sean Bean dies earlier for getting on his nerves, the rest of the party conspire to get the ring from him up and until the point he cuts the head off the Balor for reminding him of a Demon and sending him into a "GRIFFITTTTTTTHHHHHHH" spiral for a little while.
What if he wears it on his metal hand?
>>32015968Then he has an invisible hand that attracts the spectres.>Guts puts the ring on the metal hand.>Pulls out the hand.>Drops it on the ground.>Waits.>A spectre arrives.>As he kneels to pick it up, Guts pumps it full of bolts/swings the Dragonslayer at him (he's done so with a single hand before).>Repeat x9>Put ring on right hand and proceed to go into Mordor without trouble and invisible.
>>32015892Does he manage to get to Mordor?Yes, he goes in through the front.Does he accept Gollum's help?Maybe? He's been shown to be very independent before teaming up with Silke and the others.Would he get corrupted?Hell no. He has a force of will that makes everyone else look like pussies.
This is a stupid thread because the power levels are completely different (at least in the Third Age).If this were taking place in the First Age, I'd bite. Of course, Guts would probably get annihilated in FA, considering some of the stuff that went on then.
>>32015892He gets trapped on that boat.
>>32015892>Does he manage to get to Mordor?He walks through the goddamn front door. Oh there's an army of orks? They're dead. The great eye is upon him? He shrugs and keeps strolling, he's dealt with worse shit. Wraiths? Balrog?Same as the orks. Guts is ridiculously powerful compared to everything the Fellowship faced.
>>32016046You motherfucker.>hfw the fucking corsairs of Umbar are the foe that delay him the most.
No, he can't do shit because his spirit body is literally held together by his spinal cord. Slann fucking wrecked him, he can only fight BECAUSE of the berserker armour. It holds him together. Without it he's fucking dead meat.
>all those double page spreads of balrogs, ringwraiths, trolls, mumakil, wargs, uruk hai, etc. getting bisected
>>32016101>Slann fucking wrecked himIt was a long time since I read it, but didn't he "kill" her after she took off his armor? She wounded him pretty badly, but he still could fight without the armor.
>>32016101That's why he's able to walk around fine without it, right?
>>32016101> It holds him together. Without it he's fucking dead meat.Where the fuck are you getting this from?
>>32016101They used it at that time because he wasn't healing fast enough not to die.He spends a whole lot of time with it off lately, like the part where he had a fever and wasn't wearing it for weeks and he didn't die.Plus it doesn't actually do anything when it's not active, it's just armor. The magic only happens when it takes over and drives fucking spikes into him.Also if we're being very very picky we can just go with black swordsman guts
>>32015967>Balor>Griffith>Not ZoddDo you even FORCES?
>>32016163> drives fucking spikes into him.Man, I forgot the armor did that. It must hurt like a bitch, specially considering how he fights when Berserk.
>>32016163>>32016139>>32016122>>32016118I think Anon might be confusing it with the ethereal wound he recieved while fighting Slann.I'm not sure if that's healed yet. Did it heal when the worlds merged, or did it heal naturally? God, it's been so long since I've read past the Golden Age.
>>32016191The reason is pretty much because of how he fights when berserk. Not like he feels any pain while he has the berserker juice flowing though.
>>32016191>That sprite work>No Berserk fighting gameAlso the armour removes the sensation of pain while active, and the pain is a bit more dulled even when it's not.But the latter is more a side effect of losing every other sensation in the process, too.
>>32016216I'd sacrifice humans for a Berserk game done by Platinum
>>32015892Guts wrecks face and "kills" Sauron, but as a man he is easily corrupted by the ring. It is the fate of all men.The only people we have ever seen resist the ring for any length of time are those that have no ambition or strong desires. The Ring tempts you with the power to do whatever it is you want to do. Sam was a simple gardener, so the only thing that the Ring could come up with to tempt him was taking over Morder and turning it into a lush, verdant paradise.And Frodo? Frodo fell to the ring himself.Guts wants things too badly. The nature of the ring would exploit that. The Berserker armor alone proves that Guts is not above using dangerous and powerful things if he thinks it will get him what he wants, so the ring is going to get its hooks into him rather easily.And when Guts has the ring, he will become a dark lord the likes of which the world has never seen. Strength and unrelenting vengeance given form.
>>32016248There are ways
How does it feel like to know that Miura will die before Guts gets off the boat?
>>32015892I would much rather see what would happen if embraced it.
>>32016264>Guts>ManGood thing he's Half Apostle, otherwise he might be tempted.
>>32016264Yeah, but what he wants isn't really something the ring can give him. Heal Caska and murder the fuck out of Griffith. Apart from that, I feel like he would just like to stop butchering the whole countryside and maybe try to give a "normal" life to his half-demon son.
>>32016248That's a dream I'd sacrifice for.>>32016264He's being tempted to do nasty shit by the Idea of Evil itself, he'd do fine.>>32016274>tfw Miura will write a Berserk/Idolmaster arc just before he dies>>32016277I said fighting game.>>32016291>Guts falls, everyone dies
>>32016316>Berserk/Idolmaster arc.>Guts defeats Griffith by making Schierke the best idol in Midland.
>>32016264Here's the thing: Guts is a struggler. He is half in our world, and half in the interstice, and because of his nature outside of the normal plane of reality, essentially, he can work his will directly on the world, in small ways. This means 'fate' is something that he denies. If 'fate' was all it took, Guts would've fallen a long time ago. The God Hand, those guys Guts is trying to kill? Yeah, fate is their bitch.The Ring ain't got nothing on him. It would make him ridiculously powerful, and he would use it. He wouldn't fall to it though, and once his goal was complete, in this instance, getting the Ring to Mordor.. he'd drop it like a sack of potatoes.
>>32016291You think that matters? The Elves cant go near the ring without being corrupted either. Even Gandalf and the Eagles, the equivalent of Angels in Middle Earth and of the same class of being as the Balrog an Sauron himself, dare not touch the ring because they know for a fact it would consume them. Besides, Apostles are just people who already sacrificed their dreams or loved ones for power. So, if anything, being half apostle should make him MORE vulnerable. The ring is a bitch like that. The stronger you are, the more pull the Ring has on you.
>>32016329>Theresa from the second arc beats Schierke and succeeds in getting her revenge on GutsWhy am I buying into my own stupid idea.>Captcha: termted have
>>32016365>Theresa.>That little girl who traveled with the cleric (and got horribly murdered and then split in half by Guts)>The fairy-girl and her friend.>Schierke.>Mermaid girl.>That one that's now on the Band of the Hawk.There's enough little girls in Berserk to turn into idols.
>>32016334> he will just use the ring as much as he wants and then drop it> I can stop using this ring whenever I want to, I just don't want to!LaughingSauron.jpg >>32016316But he is not tempted to do nasty shit. He is tempted to do exactly what he already wants to do, more easily, and with no chance anyone will stop him.That is the insidiousness of the ring. The ring does not turn you evil. The rings gives you the chance to do everything you have ever wanted, the evil only sets in when it turns into you reshaping the world as you please because you know no one can stop you.
I still can't get over how young the cast is.Guts is fucking 21.Jesus christ that kid's seen some shit.
>>32016401So... it's a behelit. Like the ones Guts collects so they don't fuck shit up. Or to make sure Skelly Knight doesn't choke on them and die.
>>32016042I wouldn't say he's get annihilated but he'd find himself matched by a lot of the stuff crawling around. Also theres the question of who's will is stronger: Sauron, who is an ancient, god-like sorcerer or Guts, who loves like a truck and eats monsters for breakfast. Part of the reason the hobbits made it was because the ring only uses partial power against humble creatures like halfings, against kings and warriors and people who pose a threat to the dark lord to work harder to corrupt them. If Guts puts it on its likely he will be contending with the full force of Sauron''s will and and magic. But yeah, generally, Guts=High fantasy LotR=Low fantasy (except for the first age)
>>32016425Except that you never have to make that huge sacrifice.The ring never says you have to sacrifice your dream, or your loved ones. The Ring never makes you give up anything.The ring lets you have it all. All you want and more. Its the best defense Sauron could think of: making his phylactery too useful to ever be disposed of.
So wait.>Guts with some assist kills the monster from the lake>Moria trip still ends in Gandalf and Balrog falling because fuck your killcount Guts, we have to get out of here>Sarn ambush gets obliterated, party proceeds as planned>Fellowship kills their way up to Gondor, occasionally fighting off Wraiths with Guts living in two worlds bullshit>With Saruman's on the offense and Sauron on the defense, they crush whatever is left of the resistance>With the Middle Earth completely ruined, Guts reaches the mountain and fucks up Sauron>36 volumes later, he reaches the Isengard but is unable to get insideThe world is now completely fucked up and the history is now about the last of men trying to get shit right and an evil wizard who refuses to leave his tower because there's a guy outside waiting to fuck up anything he can possibly create.Guts is forced to travel to Valinor and get someone to deal with the wizardAnd gets on a boaat
>>32016399I'm telling you man, it's only a matter of time.Berserk Idols quest imminent.>>32016401I'd still say he'd be a hard sell, it's not like the ring's offering him anything he couldn't get without it anyway.Like >>32016425 said, things like that are pretty common, judging by the amount of demons we see and the fact that Skull Knight makes a sword out of melting them down.
>>32016466Also, assuming the mark grants him corruption resistance
>>32016407Wait, he's TWENTY ONE?The man looks FORTY.
>>32016457Wat.No. No.LoTR is the PARAGON of high fantasy, it's just also low magicMeanwhile berserk is portrait low fantasy (before the merge with the abyss, then it went full on high fantasy)I'm not trying to be mean but I think you are confusing what they both imply
>>32016479He looks A LOT younger in the earlier volumes. No idea why Miura keeps making him older and older as his art improves. I guess the armor has some blame, but that shit has been going on long before he got it.
>>32016479I'm pretty sure some years must have passed in the plot, not only in time skips, but yeah, he's AT MOST and even being quite a stretch, between 15 and 30. And if we assume the plot takes less than a year between time skips, then yeah, he's 21.It's just that at some point his face became a square.
I've just realized that Guts and co have been on the boat for eight years.
>>32016507> between 15 and 30.I obviously meant betwen 25 and 30. Even though we all know Guts already had a fucking big killcount by 15.
>>32016496Alright your right with that. I guess what I mean is Berserk is "high power" and Lotr is "low power"Hows that?
I reread Berserk a little while back. I never realized how different the Guts in the early volumes were from the Guts after the Golden Age arc. Even though they are supposed to be t he same, they are completly different.
>>32016479He was 11 when he killed Gambino, was in various groups for around 4 years until he was recruited by the Band. So 15 when he joined the Band of the Hawk. He was in it for 3 years, then he left for a year. He's around 19 during the jailbreak of Griffith, Eclipse and shit. Shota dude mentioned Guts left Casca alone for two years, so he's 21 by the time Tower of Conviction started. And from there, like, a month has passed. If that.No idea how old the attempted S&M incest duo is.>>32016507Even if it is in roundabout ways, they almost always mention how long it's been after every major timeskip.
>>32016520Read Golden Age, then the first few volumes.He's mad as fuck and hunting down the Apostles that killed his friends. I think the Count got Pippin, the succubus lady got that douchenozzle who hated Guts' guts, and so on. The first couple chapters of Berserk is just an angry man killing things so he's less angry.
>>32016525Also, I believe It's the Mark that is making Guts older and older.He has to go through that to end up like the SkeleKnight. A dead body that never really died, living in the cursed armor
>>32016530But the shit that happens before the golden age arc is still like 2-3 years aftet the eclipse. The stuff that happens after the golden age is a direct continuation from the stuff that is before it.It probably just comes down to Miura not having fleshed him completly out and decided to change some things during the golden age arc.
>>32016520That's because he calms down a bit. Probably when he gets all sad because he ruined Theresa's life. Then he goes from "fuck everyone, I'm going to kill as much as I can" to "man, I better do something better with my life, maybe heal my girlfriend".>>32016556> before the golden age arc is still like 2-3 years aftet the eclipse.That's DURING the 2-3 years after the eclipse. For all we know he may have killed the Baron a week after the Eclipse.
>>32016580>That's DURING the 2-3 years after the eclipseI refuse to believe that. Puck has not been with Guts for fucking 3 years.
>>32015892He's fucked. He always needs more power and the ring will give him just what he wants.
>>32016596Black Swordsman+Lost Children+Anything else took two years.Maybe he was hunting apostles for a while, met Puck about a year in, then did the rest in a year.Guts knowing Puck for a year or two sounds feasible.
>>32016510>2025>The final battle of JoJo's Bizarre adventure part 15 Pain is Only a Number begins!>Chapter 5033 of Naruto: The thrilling conclusion to Naruto and Sasuke's (real this time) final battle!>Guts and company arrive at Elfheim: But what awaits them>And Daenerys finally fucking leaves Mereen
>>32016598Guts -needs- more power, but he doesn't -want- more power, other than the power to unfuck his girlfriend's mind, and the ring is something that offends him: a power beyond mortal men, something the uses people, for the destruction of mankind.I think he'd do fine.
>>32015892Do remember that while Guts isn't afraid of using dangerous things in clearly desperate situations, he's always had the grand daddy of all humanity->power things sitting right in his pack pocket. Yup, one of Hell's skittles, a Behelit. There's been plenty of times where he could have invoked that and became a monster of legend, but chances are... I personally think the idiot has forgotten all about it. So chances are the ring may or may not affect him, due to him being a bit divorced from reality, but he certainly won't ever pull a Griffith and sacrifice everything for himself.
>>32016731It's clearly Puck's behelit.
>>32016766Okay, but what If It IS Puck's behelit?
>>32016784Puck hasn't forgotten it.Puck will inevitably try to use it, or at least be tempted.Puck's gonna be kill.
>people seriously arguing Guts wouldn't be affected/tempted by the ringEven fucking saint like Samwise Gamgee got tricked into wanting it, Guts wouldn't be able to resist at all.
>>32016630You get the time mark on this when he returns for Casca and they mention how long he was gone.I think it was 2-3 years. He met Puck somewhere midway.
>>32016806But what If Guts has a supernatural means to resist It?
>>32016821That supernatural mean best be Tom Bombadil's level of bullshit.
>>32016839Who wins, Tom Bombadil or Skull Knight?
>>32016857Tom for sure.Skull Knight can't even into reality manipulation.
>>32016879Yes he can.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sz9cgtNBgs
>>32016839What about the brand of sacrifice?Shit allows him to basically live in the spirit world but whenever he meets an evil spirit, the brand hurt as shit and there's blood everywhere.Surely that would offer him some kind of resistance, even If painful as fuck
>>32016507That kind of life takes a toll. Have you seen how quickly presidents get old once they get in office? And that's just mental stress, not fighting fucking demons.
>>32016857>Skull "Fate is for fags" Knight>Femto predicts his attack with pinpoint precision and uses it to fuck the worldBombadil wouldn't let this shit happen.He'd dance all the way up the Sultan Yggdrassil and kick Femto's ass in, throw the Sultan into his tree collection and ride Zodd into the sunset.
>>32016905If he can into reality manipulation he could have killed Void by reversing the black holes.Tom basically manipulates all around him so he can have that peaceful despite the fact it has evil undead and trees around.
>>32016925>so he can have that peaceful forest*
>>32016012>I know nothing about The Lord of the Rings!>Time to spout bullshit!
>>32016911Well, that's up to speculation on which ever magic is stronger, the brand or the Ring.
>>32016948Dude, it was a joke. Don't get your autism all over the place.
>>32016671>Dude with a rage demon he can't control> Can't resist the battle madness of the Berserker armor> Full of regrets, hopes and desires for the Ring to exploit.Gutts lasts half a second. Tops.
>>32016956I think it would be a matter of who's stronger, Sauron or the Hand of God.And I don't really see Sauron winning this one.
>>32016975We must not forget that Sauron IS a god.
>>32016958>rage demon he can't controlThe demon has got him, like two times, and only for a few seconds. Then he shook it off himself.> Can't resist the battle madness of the Berserker armorThat one doesn't tempt or anything, it just straight up turns you crazy, which isn't a matter of willpower, but of knowing how to counteract it. Which he knows (or, rather, Schierke does).> Full of regrets, hopes and desires for the Ring to exploit.Guess Frodo just wanted to take a stroll in Mordor then! Not because he desired to detroy the ring in hopes that he would kill Sauron that way!
>>32016911Why would it? All the brand does is increases his presence in the spirit world and makes him a prime meal for evil spirits.
>>32017001No, he's actually more like an angel.There is only God in LOTR, and that is Eru.
>>32017001But he isn't.He's more like a very corrupted angel. Not even Archangel tier as he used to be Morgoth lackey
>>32017001No, he's sort of like a fallen angel. The God Hand would compete with the Valar (maybe, we don't really know exactly to what extent the powers of each of them arrive), which are superior to Sauron.
>>32017013>>32017026>>32017043OK, OK, I give.
>>32017078But dude, we have to tell you how Sauron is not a god, but rather a fallen angel. And a buttslut.
>>32016182> Do you even FORCES?Obligatory.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoJgkgRxUfc
>>32017098And a sunday cartoon henchman to boss villain
>>32017107>No more "Ten hours of Caska's right nipple" comment.New youtube sucks.
>>32017124>Think it says "Hurry thy forces">Eventually look it up>"Hai yai forces"My version's better.
>>32017158I bet it was intentional.
>>32017007>The demon has got him, like two times, and only for a few seconds. Then he shook it off himself.Like I said, he can't control it.>That one doesn't tempt or anything, it just straight up turns you crazy, which isn't a matter of willpower, but of knowing how to counteract it. Which he knows (or, rather, Schierke does).Resisting the Ring has nothing to do with willpower. No amount of magic can save you either. Ask Gandalf.>Guess Frodo just wanted to take a stroll in Mordor then! Not because he desired to detroy the ring in hopes that he would kill Sauron that way!Frodo had no illusion that he would succeed and pretty much went because there was no other choice, yes.Resisting the Ring has nothing to do with power, or willpower, or might. Prior knowledge of it nature or hatred of the superntural won't change a thing either. The only thing that can offer a degree of defense is humility. Frodo had no delusion that he could be some sort of great hero that could ride into battle saving the day, or that he was somehow better than all the people around him. His only aspiration was to smoke his pipe in his garden. That's why the Ring had such a hard time corrupting him, because he had absolutely no use for power of any sort.
Guys, we've been talking about guts, but what if we instead send in the True God of Midland!!
>>32017193AS LONG AS I STAND ON THIS TINY BRIDGE IN MORIA, NONE SHALL PASS
>>32017189does this mean that pre golden age guts would have at least been a decent ringbearer
>>32017189And despite all that, Frodo still failed in the end.Gutts is a prime target for the Ring.
>>32017210He'd want power to impress Gambino/avoid getting raped.
>>32017203I see you got some Balls-rog, But you're gonna regret it! When I chop your head off, WITH MAH AXE!
100 man slayer was one of the coolest moments in fiction, ever. Especially how the band found them.
>>32016794I kinda really like the idea of Puck returning to his home and getting his start of darkness on with the Elf King trying to pull some bullshit on the party. I mean, there's a lot of elves he must've been long time friends with that he'd be willing to sacrifice if push came to shove...
>>32017224THERE SEEMS TO BE A SHORTAGE OF ORCS IN YOUR ARMY
>>32017252>That moment when the Band arrive running and prepared for a fight then see all the fucking corpses scattered around.Man, that's gotta be one of the best moments in the entire manga.
>>32017265No dude, like this.They return, Elf king heals Casca, everyone is happy.His travelling allies mostly ignore him, Guts is preocupied with Casca and what they're going to do now that they live in paradise. His old elven acquaintances return to torment him again. Alone and bullied, he takes comfort in the little egg that has been his bag-companion for over a year. And then it smiles and bleeds.
>>32017265>>32017309Now the most important question which remains,what kind of Apostle would Puck become?
>>32017338A giant demonic chestnut.
>>32017338A bag of healing items that is actually a mimic.
>>32017338Chibi Puck with little horns and a spaded tail.
>>32017309To be honest I don't buy it that Puck left just because he was bored and he just "forgot" how powerful a guy his King apparently was.There's something that smells fishy about Elfheim and its not the boat they're using to get there.
>>32017269ITS PATHETIC, THAT A HOBBIT LIKE YOU IS PERMITTED ON THE BATTLEFIELD!
>>32017338Some sort of goat demon with things that looks like a fujoshi drew it
>>32017368It definitely is the boat. They've been on it for 8 fucking years.
>>32017368Puck thinks of the king like Eddy from EE&E thinks of his brother.Sort of bigs him up, but he's a sadistic bully crazyman.>>32017338Big strong swordsman
>>32017338A gigantic sized (for an elf: read; actually human sized) multi winged demon of healing hax and insane regeneration while probably being the newest fastest apostle on account of wind spirit heritage.and then he tries to rape sheirkes elf friend whatshername
>>32017386>The navigator's just been playing Idolmaster the whole time
>>32017465I think at this rate they're going to discover America.
>>32017475>Obama liberates FalconiaThanks.
>>32017305True that, brother.
>>32017512I think that's the moment when Caska though "I have to fuck him".
>>32017475That'll be Miuras grand tweest.Elfheim is the modern U.S. just with magic and elves.Though elves probably don't have to worry about healthcare.
>>32017512This has got to be one of my favourite pages in the entire manga.
>>32017537How old is he at this point?
>>32017491>Casca's faceCouldn't stop laughing.>>32017512>Casca's assDayum.
>>32016357Yes, the ring has the greater part of Sauron's power inside it, and a big part of Sauron's soul with it. The only guy who's sure he knows how to handle it is Saruman, and he was forbidden to use the tools of the enemy. He was only to study them and discern their secrets. Gandalf opposes Saruman's plan to take the ring because while Saruman really could use it for good, and would strike down Sauron, Gandalf's pretty sure the ring wouldn't stop being what it is, and would eventually work its way into Saruman's head. If it can't overpower him, it'll do so insidiously, and then the world would have a new dark lord, even more dangerous than the last. (One of the few things I actually disliked about the LotR movies was that they rewrote all of this and made Saruman into a wuss who had given up)
>>32017537Casca is so moe. We've had a decade of retardmoe Casca. I just want a return to cute and capable Casca.>>32017547Only 18. Man is a freaking beast.
In the last panel the guy in the far back next to Judeau looks so fucking done
>>32017570>am I kawaii, uguu
>>32017570I dunno, I think Judeau's a little more moe in that page.I thought he was a girl for a good while.Stupid sexy Judeau.
>>32017596Same here. Pretty much up until the eclipse, in fact.
>>32017596Out of all of the deaths in the Eclipse, his was the saddest.Pippin went out like a fucking legend, the rest were sort of forgettable. Corkus had a sad one, thinking that all good dreams must end, but come on man, Judeau died saving his love, but he pussied out of admitting it and sort of half-heartedly insulted her before he died. His last thoughts weren't of panic, nor of fear. It was "Holy shit I fucked that confession up something awful."
>>32017596he's got a cute nose.N-no homo...
>>32017638>No mention of Gaston.Scum.
>>32017592christthis is a lot funnier than it should be, got any more?
>>32017666I was thinking of Judeau but whatever
>>32017666>>32017693I know, but I wanted to use the speech bubbles.
>>32017638I dunno, I was pretty gutted when Gaston's head fucking exploded.In fact that whole section was just crazy-fucked, had to take a break for a while after that.I do appreciate it that Miura really went all out to make the reader HATE Griffith, villains like that, I tend to like the most.>>32017646If only he was a chick, things could've worked out.But now I must steal Schierke from Guts.
>>32017678I've got more Berserk fun related stuff.
>>32017666>>32017702Heh, fair enough
>>32017714I can't get enough of this shit. No matter how grim Miuras world is it's always one panel photoshop away from being fucking hilarious.
>>32017713>Uh, he raped some women and killed all of the MC's friends.On paper, it sounds sort of lame, but 11/10 execution, Jesus Christ.>>32017732Arcs that aren't Lost Children, Eclipse, Black Swordsman or Tower of conviction (Jesus those are grim as shit) are pretty cheery in places.Berserk is a happy place apart from when it isn't.
Did Griffith want Guts to stick his thick, heavy and far too rough Dragonslayer into his ass?Did he wish to give Guts a God Handjob?Was he the homosex, or did he love Guts in a soulmate BFF way? Did he even love Guts, or was he just enraged that his property left him?
>>32017797I don't think Griffith was capable of love
>tfw I love playing two handed warriors because of Gatsu
>>32017769I could stare at this gif. all day.
>>32017807>GatsuI'm taking this bait.
>>32017807>TFW your favourite vidya at the moment lets you be Guts.Fighting giant bosses with Greatsword in one hand, and Avelyn/Forbidden Sun pyromancy in the other.Just like the Black Swordsman.
>>32016649Naa Jojo May be at part 9 remeber Steel Ball Run took like 7 years
>>32017666Based on a true post: >>32017585>>32017786Nah mate.Nah.That face on his ripped body just doesn't work. If it was more muscle girl, then we'd be in business.>>32017797Griffith wanted the DGuts' huge sword is actually a symbol of his virility according to Miura, so it's not surprising.>>32017807>All those Ultra Greatswords in Dark Souls 2Aww yus.
>Pick up Dragon's Dogma for like 5 bucks>Game literally has Guts armor and Sword>Has a whole class around using HUGE 2-handed weapons>Disgonnabegood.jpg>It's literally the shittiest class in the gamewhy.jpg
>>32017855Because caster supremacy is a contageous disease.
>>32017855>whyBecause you can try to be Guts. But you can't be Guts.
>>32017840Knight Elzevir thanks you for the 1200 souls and the token of spite your pathetic death granted him. Would gank you again.
>>32017855In Dark Souls 2, you can be Guts and it's actually really effective.>>32017863F-fucking Havel Mages with Resonant Katanas that outrange me...
>Eclipse happens>Guts gets raped instead and is a flaming retard now>Casca is now on a quest of revenge
>>32017861or maybe he is just shit at the game?I know I am.
>>32017870>In Dark Souls 2And in 1.Fats the Bandit, represent.
>>32017840>Literally the only game where you can see a fight between Guts and Lu Bu.>There's only hexfags with katanas and mundane dual Avelyns.Goddamnit...
>>32017877Nah, it's just flat out a bad class. I can DESTROY with any other, but the Warrior is slow, poor damage, no defensive options, all he's good for is tanking hits, and he's not even that great at that.
>>32017876>She loses because she can't use a sword that can reliably pierce the demon's extremely thick hide.>Also, pregnant.This was not a good idea.
>>32017870Flame claymore +10, pyromancy flame +10, +10 Archdrake shield, King's Set, Ring of Blades +1, Southern Ritual Band +1, Clear Quartz Ring +1, Clorathy Ring +1. Chaos Firestorm, Great Fireorb, Flame Whip, Warmth, Flame Swath.I eat martials and spell spammers. Fuck katana wielders. Spear/rapier is cancer though.
>>32017855Come on, you can totally do a two warriors only run and totally have fun at It. Dunno with solo warrior runHell, I warriored my way through BBI and had funYou only need that evade attack for i. frames and arc of fuck your shit. The third one is optional
>>32017897My guts have reached orbit.
>>32017848And with added :3>>32017876Good luck piercing anything with that wimpy little sword, Casca.>>32017897Fucking hell, why'd I laugh.
>>32017888>make a Garret cosplay>invade a trespasser>Darth Maul is fighting CorvoSeriously, there's so much potential in this game.
>>32017891It's not as efficient as other vocations but It's not bad and is perfectly capable of fucking things up
>>32017908Pyromancy+10 and Raw +10 Avelyn in offhand.Raw +10 Greatsword in the other. Alonne Knight set, no helmet.Ring of Blades +2, Third Dragon Ring, Dispelling Ring and Illusory ring of the Conqueror.Might not be optimal, but god damn I am going to play Guts.
>>32017098>And a buttslut....Continue.
>>32017996didnt he seduce that one noble or something
>>32017903>Pregnant That can be fixed, if Griffith were female from the start. Because of eclipse Casca miscarries and Griffith gives birth to the devil spawn.
>>32017855fuck you nig, warrior best class
>>32017944I am sad beyond belief there is no Hawk Helm.Lucatiels set with that, and an estoc?Fuck son, have Griffith vs Guts every fucking day.
>>32018025This. I went from Fighter to Warrior for 99% of the game.I also spent a few levels as assassin for some more damage, but I went sword+shield.
>>32017976I just wish Sentinels of Blue worked. I just want to help the gentle apostles that walk the land out. Except no-one is part of that covenant AND wears the ring.I also have a hexer Pilgrim of Dark called Apostle Laquis whom I have a jolly good time raping face.I'm planning on making a dual +10 blacksteel katana, Alonne Knight armour bell bitch. Sigh, I love this game.
Oh hey, more fun stuff.
>>32018077>that gifficking perfect
>>32016300To be fair he'd probably give caska the ring to protect her>caska gets morally corrupted>she now makes a silly face whenever she sees vegetables
>>32018144>Invisible Casca.Tower of Conviction just got fucking hardmode.
>>32017876>Gutts getting raped. Been there, done that. Only made him angrier.
>>32018049It's because Dark Souls main way of grabbing people is "Are you a bad enough dude to die a fuckton?" and entering that covenant is essentially admitting you need help.>>32018144Holy shit, now we know how Slann became an apostle.
>>32018168Or because having to wear that cuntshit ring to be viable for protection, and that ring is worth shit nothing and the slot could be spent on infinitely better choices. At least make the apostle ring covenant member only, and grant a fat 20% hp boost or something.
>>32018187Best gril? or bestest gril!
>>32018163>School bully even tougher after getting molested.jpg>>32018168It's because no invasions happen in NG. It's actually the most popular covenant my a ton. Another problem is that Red Eye Orbs are rare as shit, and the odds are so stacked against the invader that few people even bother.
>>32018210>tfw not sure if would a Slann.I'm not entirely sure if I want to know what's hit that...
>>32018222>Guts>Never went to school>Never a bullyI'm missing the analogy here.
>>32018017>rule 63 GriffithNo no no my boner can't take this and oh god the story still works perfectly jesus he really was gay for Guts
>>32018222>Rank 2 blood bro from invasions
>>32018314How do you not get gangbanged by a faith sunbro, some tanky havel fuck phantom and the host who sits back and climaxes all in your face?How?
>>32018313>rule 63 GriffithHave you heard of a thing called Berserk prototype?
>>32018356Eyepatch Guts is weird. I dunno, think modern Guts could rock the patch?
>>32018356WOAHWOAH! what the hell is this?!
>>32017976>>32017840>no using Crypt Blacksword>laughingdarkwraiths.jpeg
>>32018388Crypt Blacksword has a shit moveset, if I recall correctly.
>>32018388Too short, and it scales with INT and FAI. That's no Guts build, sir.
>>32015892The only things that even pose an inconvenience to Guts are the entire army or Mordor, and the Balrogs.Guts ruins armies of nastier beasts basically on a daily basis, and has gone up against Balrog-level foes around a dozen times. But without his armor, the Balrog might actually be seriously dangerous for him. I'd still put my money on Guts, though.>Would he get corrupted?Well, the ring WAS made by a demigod with the express purpose of imposing his will on dudes, and seems to work especially good on humans. Maybe if he were carrying it for decades it would start screwing with his mind, but his identity is almost entirely defined as "I fucking hate demons", and the ring is a demonic artifact. And given how he's managed to stay generally okay in his ultragrimdark setting, he's got the willpower to basically ignore it. What I want to know is why he would bother destroying the ring, when it's a shorter walk to Sauron's tower. You just know he'd rather walk up to the man himself and bisect that fucker in one go.
>>32016457Sauron is actually a fallen angel of an even higher order than Gandalf. See: Satan analogue.
>>32018400>not being bad enough dude to kill people with sub-par weapons.I kill people in the belltower using only two Fire Ladels, Xanthous Crown, Prisoner Waistcloth, and Lion warrior Cuffs. Arguemtn invalid
>>32018420>his identity is almost entirely defined as "I fucking hate demons",No problem, the ring can be used to destroy those things. See >>32017565>What I want to know is why he would bother destroying the ring, when it's a shorter walk to Sauron's tower. You just know he'd rather walk up to the man himself and bisect that fucker in one go.Because Sauron is just a shadow on the throne. He has no physical form, but is tied to the mortal plane by the ring. As long as it exists, he can't be killed. He also can't recreate a physical form for himself until he gets the ring back and becomes whole again.
>>32018405Make it RAW.plus the greatsword is not the right shape, its more of a Buster Sword. Meanwhile cryptsword has the proper girth and shape, a true Hunk-o-metal.
>>32018354I tend to be gangbanged more by fellow red phantoms. Also rape squads happen, its a fact of life. If it does I use the mobs and cheese the host with toxic mist or double raw repeater crossbow power stanced. If they're estus chugging faggots same, cast warmth, laugh, return, kill peasant.If invading with my hexer its even simpler because Scraps of Life is similar to Firestorm, just with far less cast time and you can move before the pillars of dark appear, perfect for dispersing gank squads, then you just have to cast Dark Mist on the host of the world. Dark Mist has insane range and almost instantly poisons. Afterwards you just have to land a shot with Dark Orb, or rush the bitch down with your +10 dark heide sword. Either way, 99 tokens of spite.Also another change that should be implemented is that red sign wins should count towards Brotherhood of Blood ranking. (I spent two and a half days and won like 110 fights before I realized I will never rank up using that).And make halberds not shit somehow.
>>32018425Technically incorrect, Sauron is definatly more powerful than Gandalf, but he's not the Satan analogue. Sauron is the lesser evil, he's Satan's buttslut. Sauron's BOSS, who was imprisoned outside creation, is the Satan analogue.
>>32018472Personally I think the Redsigns should also inhibit other summons much like Dragon Eye does.
>>32018432>Killing people in the Bell TowerThat's like shooting fish in a barrel, though. Of course you're going to win PVP with the cards stacked in your favor.
>>32018496>Use Dragon Eye in lava bridge.>Spawn.>There's a fucking thousand delayed fireballs on the bridge.>Host is already right behind me casting Fire Tempest as I spawn.>Try to roll.>As soon as i-frames end I die.Some people...
>>32018522I know that feel. Since the bridge is obviously not the place for honor pvp anymore are there any suggestions for where to drop my redsign instead?Also what does Dead Again do anyway?
Raiden gets dropped in Middle Earth. He has the ring and knows what it does to people and how to destroy it. But he doesn't have the Codec.Does he manage to get to Mordor? Does he accept Gollum's help? Would he get corrupted?
>>32018490A half dead sloth can dodge it though, and the moveset is terrible. Not to mention coding the durability loss to framerate is catastrophic, halberd and heavy weapons lose durability like if they were made out of paper because of it.>>32018496I dont mind that much because invade+red sign and red sign+red sign lets you do fight clubs. (That and I had my most wonderful moments of cooperations with fellow brothers of blood while hunting down the host like a filthy, filthy animal. Sunbros only wish they had jolly cooperation of this level.)I'm also amused by pigs that try to rush you down while bowing. As if you cant roll out of emotes. Perfect for backstab setups. Turtler enemies are the most fantastic thing ever though. The faggots who put their havel greatshields up all day long asking for you to shield bash them and then crit them in the face with a spear or knife or claymore. Siiigh. But yeah, Blue Sentinels are like the Knights of Darkmoon. Painfully dysfunctional. Much sorrow. Not to mention their duelling arena's matchmaking is utterly fucked (SL 70 with less then 200K soul memory paired with SL150 2M+ soul memory people with endgame gear).Brotherhood of Blood is best jolly covenant of wonderful gentlemen of high stature and mirth. Rest are irrelevant.
>>32018557Combusts corpses. Generally worthless unless you want the all hexes achievement.
>>32018565Considering how self-denying Raiden is he "MIGHT" be able to resist the ring a bit.however, as a machine, he'd have to be extra careful since there is no way to properly repair and heal himself in middle earth. No Gatorade Spines for you. As for fighting: he could kill a balrog, or heven the Witch king since he technically "Not a man"
>>32018598..what enemies leave corpses? most just dust away.
The Dude gets dropped in Middle Earth. He has the ring and knows what it does to people and how to destroy it. But he doesn't have his rug.Does he manage to get to Mordor? Does he accept Gollum's help? Would he get corrupted?
>>32018626Meeeeh. Some. Hollows. Skeletons. Lizard things in Shrine of Amana, what not. Doesnt matter, useless hex.
I'd say that if you're going to pick someone that powerful you might as well pick someone with a less predictable moral status.What would the demi-fiend do?
>>32018703Depends on the player
>>32018703Put on ring, bitch slap Sauron, rule Middle Earth.
>>32018630He'd be fine. He lacks any real ambitions, so the ring wouldn't be able to corrupt him.
>>32018703Expend his compendium with a specimen of everything he comes across. Pick the side opposite the first guy who pisses him of. Perhaps search Bombabil for the same reason he paid Masakado a visit: for sport. Otherwise just chill. He isn't exactly a long term plan kind of guy.
>>32018630He uses the ring to steal beer.
>>32018049You don't have to wear the way of blue ring to summon sentinels.
>>32018035IF you're looking for something a bit femto tier, the throne watcher helmet is actually a good match
What if Kenshiro went to middle earth too, and Dio got his hands on the rings.
>>32019097Really?Gosh, now I can have the full Berserk cast.I've got Serpico, Sherike and Isidoro, as well as Guts.
>all this /a/ crapSeparate universes and the way magic works. Tolkien put a lot of effort into world-building and designing Middle-Earth's lore and magic. There's no way in hell this Guts character can resist Sauron's influence. Nobody has a will that strong. Tom Bombadil is an exception because he's practically an avatar of Nature. From what I've gleamed through this thread, Guts will be used by the One Ring whether he likes it or not. If he won't be corrupted by it, it'll make sure he'll lose the ring by accident or design.
>>32019218>Tom Bombadil is an exception because he's practically an avatar of Nature.>Who is Samwise
>>32016334>and once his goal was complete, in this instance, getting the Ring to Mordor.. he'd drop it like a sack of potatoes.keikaku doori.jpg
>>32019237>Who is SamwiseTokien's husbando
>>32016291Guts is human. He's said it himself, right down to the marrow of his fuckin' bones. Don't lump him together with those faggot-ass monsters.
>>32019353Him saying it doesn't really prove anything, does it.
These two get dropped in Middle Earth. They have the ring and know what it does to people and how to destroy it. But they don't have the rest of the Dai-Gurren Dan.Do they manage to get to Mordor? Do they accept Gollum's help? Would they get corrupted?
>>32019371There's the part where he was born from a human. And the fact only humans can be sacrifices.
>>32019387Gee, I wonder.
>>32019218> Implying you know whatever the fuck Bombadil is anymore than the rest of us.Bitch please.
>>32018565Do you even have to ask?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t0y86-Spig
>>32018579>Brotherhood of Blood is best jolly covenant of wonderful gentlemen of high stature and mirth. Rest are irrelevant.this is what bloodbabies actually believe. sunbro4lyfe
>>32019437Please tell me that's not the real OST.
>>32019473>responding to blackheart>not knowing he's universally known as a THAT GUY, THAT DM and people usually screencap his posts to laugh at later.
>>32019483It absolutely is.
>>32019387>Do they manage to get to Mordor? Hell yes!>Do they accept Gollum's help? Why not?>Would they get corrupted?Who the hell do you think they are?!
>>32019526And that you mean "yes, they do."
>>32018703Would the demi fiend hand over the ring to gollum to recruit him?
>>32017537I have such a boner at that particular image/scene. No homo.
>>32019203If you got the time, mind linking them? I wouldn't doubt I could find them easy enough, but just something nice to save for posterity? here's a link for it, by the way http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Throne+Watcher+Set
Oh, I keep finding this shit. I should probably organize my image folder.
>>32016507>OH MY GOD!>I've seen some shit>Oh? A another demon's butchering people? Sure I'll kill it
>>32019501Post one then, faggort.>>32019473Sunbros are and have been shit. (Rank 3 sunbro was my first char in DS2)
>>32020108not even that difficult to get rank three. just drop your sign about ten times before each boss.
Hey guys, I'm not very far into Berserk (I just finished reading the Golden Age arc last week), but I heard that there's a part where Guts and Zodd team up for a bit to fight someone. Is this true?
>>32020142Hence my general dislike for the covenant. Their special gimick AKA lessened online restrictions doesnt mean shit since you can replace the same with HAVING FRIENDS and using the Name-Engraved Ring. That and the Sunlight Spear miracle which is, like all other spears, useless in pvp.
>>32020212Yes. Awesome ensues.
>>32016649Actually, Naruto and Sasuke are currently teaming up to fight some Lich guy who orchestrated the entire plot of the series... N-not that I watch it, or anything, it's just that my friend reads it.
>>32015892Ring pretty much corrupts anything no matter how powerful and given how much he wants to kill griffith it's pretty likely he would be corrupted. Now if him and frodo teamed up it would proably end with him dumping frodo into mount doom at the end.
>>32020212Guts rode around on Zodd's back as if he were the dragon from A Neverending Story so he could hit a thunderstorm with his sword.He mainly had to team up with his as this was the first fight the naked loli that lusts for Guts couldn't help him.Things start getting crazy in Berserk later on. But in a good way.
>>32018703>Demi-fiendHe would master the ring in about 3 seconds then assuming demon route demifiend turn arda into a hellhole that would make Sauron freak out.
The Nameless One gets dropped in Middle Earth. He has the ring and knows what it does to people and how to destroy it. But he doesn't have his intestines because Morte thought it would be hilarious to hide them under his coffin.Does he manage to get to Mordor? Does he accept Gollum's help? Would he get corrupted?
>>32020573This is honestly a hard question. Depending on if he is fully awakened and what alignment he had and other shit. I mean a will 25 Chaotic evil nameless one would be middle earths worst nightmare.
>>32020573>Does he manage to get to Mordor? Yes.> Does he accept Gollum's help?He'd make Gollum realize what a fucker he is and leave him crying at the spot he meets him.>Would he get corrupted?The Practical One already set it up so that the Ring would be dropped into Mount Doom via a system of pulleys so that he doesn't get too near it.
>>32020573YesMost LikelyYes, but then he dies and the corruption is cleared
>>32020573The mindfuck would be impressive, that's for sure.
>>32020640I don't think even Tom Bombadil could handle that.
>>32015892Camlost...You look different
>>32020679Yeah. Assuming the worst case that is a Cha 25 Will 25 Int 25 Chaotic evil nameless one with the ring. He would have middle earth by the end of the month. Then he could use the rings boost to pull a sauron and overwealm tom though surrounding him. Best case is lawful good nameless one.
>>32020717In which case he probably has a really fucking strong axe and can still easily defeat Sauron through a bit more normal means.
>>32020717>Cha 25 Will 25 Int 25 Chaotic evilHe would literally be the same as Saruman with the ring, only worseHis words and ability to manipulate people would be beyond god-like
>>32020749Honestly it's very possible for the ring to betray Sauron in this case. I mean corrupted gandolf vs Sauron has some odds for it happening. The absolute worst case nameless one would blow Gandolf out of the water.On the other hand assuming the best case the nameless one could probably just unforge the ring himself. Like Fenor could.
>>32020796Some Namless Ones would hand the ring Ignus and tell him to melt the thingIgnus could do it too
>>32020108I smell /dsg/, as expected from a bloodbaby
>>32020573>What can change the nature of a man?>Eagles
>>32020826Now this I"m unsure of. Mainly because it's less the heat or the likes of the fire and more the mythical properties of being the fire where it was forged.He might be able to but he would pretty much have to make a copy of the fires of mont. doom so close that there is no difference at all.
Gwendolyn, Cornelius, Mercedes, Oswald and Velvet get dropped in Middle Earth. They have the rind and know what it does to people and how to destroy it. Velvet is human and they have their psyphers.Do they manage to get to Mordor? Do they accept Gollum's help? Do they get corrupted?
>>32020928*But they are not inscribed in prophecies.
>>32020921They said that Dragon's Fire could destroy the ringIgnus is connected to the Elemental Plane of Fire itself, he could melt it down
>>32020948>Melts the ring.>The magic doesn't leave it.>Sauron doesn't die.>But now he can't wear the ring.>HAHA WHAT NOW FUCKER
>>32020948I think Dragon's fire could destroy the Seven. But the One? Doubt it.
>>32020978They fucking clearly said it could destroy the One, but all of the dragons strong enough to do it were dead.
>>32020928How many muggle seeds did they have on them?This is VERY important.
>>32020978Gandalf said that its a possibility but that there are no dragons since the Black that has fire strong enough, and none would melt the ring anyway, as they were created by its master.
>>32016519LoTR is fairly high power, it's just the power is subtle for the most partsongs of slaying and shit
>>32020948>Dragons fireNah even the fires of Ancalagon The Black the dragon which was large enough to make mountain ranges was strong enough to burn the one ring.
>>32021021Nah he said flat out "Dragon fire can melt all the rings but the One. Which I do not think even the fires of Ancalagon the black himself could melt"
>>32021004You think Middle Earth inhabitant release phozons on death?I don't know about muggle seeds, but what about alchemy materials? Makes me think that loaded with artifact as they are endgame they could basically shrug off as much as guts. Even without that though your uncharged psypher in act 1 can pierce dragon scales, so I figure they'll be fine.
>>32020928They lack anywhere near the amount of will to do this. You need literal godlike willpower to throw the ring and even Elrond would have to jump in with it. So it would just end with one of them taking it.
>>32017220Gambino was already dead silly.
>>32021188Perhaps. If they can''t find a dragon to whom they can give the ring and quickly it'll probably end poorly. Although I don't really know what the ring could appeal for in them. Out of her kingdom Mercedes will be like a fish out of water, but she won't really have any desire. Oswald and Gwen already have one another, Cornelius will just want to follow Velvet, and she'll wan't to get rid of it, except she has already lost her kingdom and family. Can psypher's affect the ring?
>>32021435>dragonWould need a powerful ass dragon considering even the strongest one in middle earth couldn't do that and he was like large enough to see from China in france. Something like the last dragon might be able to do it. But in general you need mount dooms fires due to the magic in the ring.>Although I don't really know what the ring could appeal for in them.It mainly works on their desires and twists it. Like it would probably show Oswald or Gwen a future in which both are unaging and have enough power to protect them for eternity. Mercedes would probably see herself as being a queen more powerful and great then her mother ever was and crushing Odin with it. Velvet would probably see herself with enough strength to crush the Mad king Valentine and changing him back to normal. Mean it took a Sams goal of being a gardener and almost corrupted him with it.
>>32015892Why doesn't Guts just break the ring withhis Dragonslayer snd his inhumanly stregnth?
>>32021435>Can psypher's affect the ringI'd tend to say "yes but no". Yes because they basically run on souls and absorb them. What would happen if they destroyed it and Sauron got absorbed, I don't know. But for narrative reasons that'd be no fun, so let's say no.>>32021572If the ring is as powerful as you say it is, how the hell did bilbo hand it over?Irregardless, they're in Middle-earth. The desires regarding Odin, Valentine or their kingdoms would mean nothing to them anymore. That reminds me, Oswald is pretty touchy about "being used". I'm pretty sure knowledge of what the ring it does to people wouldn't fly well with him at all. What about magic? Didn't Velvet become "the witch of the forest" or something? couldn't she do something?
>>32021658Gimli tried and he's stronger than Gattus
>>32019146>Dio gets The RingJoJo discovers how to unlock his potential smithing powers, and forges a metric fuckton of rings.Dio punches them all, and they break, but then JoJo is able, through some bullshit, to forge rings out of nothing, and get all the effects of wearing multiple rings of power without actually wearing them.Also, for the sheer stupidity of:"Dio, why did you assume I was only wearing TEN rings? You've missed half of them!""No... It's impossible!""Yes, Dio, I forged TOE RINGS OF POWER! Now fall, before my POWER RING TOE KICK!""Noooooooo! I, Dio, refuse to be... ghuhgklegah"
>>32021768Gimli didn't have a demon-fucking slab of iron too long, too thick to be a called a sword.I'll be honest. I just want to see Guts make the Ringwriaths piss themselves.
>>32021918Given how Aragorn managed it, it wouldn't be too hard for him to do so.
I just realized that one of those 'raiths is protected by prophecy. Guts does not into fate. Would Guts still be a giant evil magnet in Middle Earth?Guts would probably end up fighting the Ents, which is sad.Who could conceivable defeat Guts? Saruman or some other magic-user? Some Fëanor-teir elf? Smaug? A balrog? Since he doesn't have the berserker armor, I guess a group of elves might be able to archer him to death.I want to see Guts fight Shelob.I want to see Guts at Helm's Deep.I bet Guts wouldn't even take the ring to Mt Doom, he'd just climb the tower and stick Dragonslayer right in Sauron's big red eye first.Why isn't there a crossover fanfic of this?
>>32022238What if Guts meet a pretty elven lass that manage to cool down some of his anger?
>>32021761> how the hell did bilbo hand it over?Sauron wasn't as active during that time so the ring wasn't working as hard and bilbo was rich as shit and naturally resistant being a hobbit. Gwen and them are just normal humans and the ring can really fuck them up. Compared to a hobbit.>Irregardless, they're in Middle-earth. The desires regarding Odin, Valentine or their kingdoms would mean nothing to them anymore. Ring would most likely show them going back to their home using it's power even if it's impossible because the ring lies and even in a case where it doesn't Gwen and Oswald have pretty strong desires for each other so it would probably get into them really fast. Even Sauron himself couldn't imagine destroying the ring so bound he was and this was the guy who scared off an entire army with his presence and will. Which is why he never thought to watch against that. >What about magic? Didn't Velvet become "the witch of the forest" or something? couldn't she do something?Need some high grade magic. Only people I can think of off the top of my head who can destroy the ring without the fires is Feanor the guy who stuck some of the light at the beginning of the world into orbs and The blacksmith god who was the greatest smith ever. About the only person that might have a chance to destroy the ring I can think of from Odin sphere is prime king Valentine before he sundered his powers into the coins.
>>32021761The Ring was done with Bilbo, it knew Bilbo was retiring and also that Sauron was searching for it+mobilizing his armies. So it allowed itself to be separated from Bilbo because Frodo was more likely to be caught.
>>32022268You're joking, right?We all know there's only one girl for guts: the mentally challenged rape victim who hates him, and who he has to continuously convince himself he won't kill in a fit of rage at the injustice of her condition, and the strain it puts on him.
>>32022238>I want to see Guts fight Shelob.He might actually lose that one. Only reason Sam won was due to having a magic sword and her charging face first into him breaking her nigh unbreakable armor.>I want to see Guts at Helm's Deep.He'd do pretty well. Biggest issue is protecting the wooden walls honestly. Mainly because as strong as guts is he can't take a army worth of arrows.>I bet Guts wouldn't even take the ring to Mt Doom, he'd just climb the tower and stick Dragonslayer right in Sauron's big red eye first.Sauron is one of the few beings in middle earth who could defeat guts to be honest. This is the guy who scared a army off with his presence and only died to 3 of the greatest superhuman men of the age football tackling him.
>>32016958>offered ridiculous amounts of power by what is basically a giant flaming god-creature>offered said power in exchange for doing something he REALLY wanted to do anyway (namely, killing Griffith)>says noThere's more to him than you think.
>>32022499Biggest difference is the ring really could give him a bullshit lot of strength compared to that guy. It's also got a mystical effect to drive you to want it. Like the only being who could destroy the ring at doom was a 4000 some year old elf with more willpower then God and even then he would have to jump into the fires because he couldn't handle the thought of giving it up.
>>32019146Kenshiro is a good example, he could get corrupted and end up being a one man army of a tyrant. Marching endlessly up and down the lands making brutal examples out of anyone who does not conform to his brand of Justice. Somewhat like American foreign policy.Post-Roah Kenshiro though, is bullshit plot armor and would easily shrug off the ring and break Sauron with the power of moralfag.Dio meanwhile, makes many more rings for his toes, nipples, cock, ears...dude is bling.
What's going on in here?
>>32022807Go away Sandro, nobody called for you.
>>32022807>Me in dominions 4
>>32017214>And despite all that, Frodo still failed in the end.The problem was that he started using the ring to control gollum.
>>32017189>Resisting the Ring has nothing to do with power, or willpower, or might.Not quite true one can master the ring with enough of that and if done so would kill Sauron just as much as if he had tossed it in the fires. Course then right afterwards you become the new dark lord.
>>32023083>Becoming Sauron is resisting the Ring's influence.That's some seriously selective thinking.
>>32022443>breaking her nigh unbreakable armor.That sounds exactly like what the Demonslayer did at the beginning with the apostles' skins. Except it became magic later. And we all know Guts doesn't need the enemy to set up itself for a thrust of his sword. Specially considering he's been able to hit some apostles that supposedly moved at mach speed (butterfly girl, anyone?).
>>32023194Well you won't become Sauron exactly. If Gandolf did it he would be just as wise as he was before but his wisdom would lead him to think he should decide everything. So you would become a dark lord just one based on you. It is also theoretically possible to be strong enough to toss the ring. But you pretty much have to be as mentally strong as Elrond.>>32023248Yeah be hard to pull the same trick sam did though since the dragon slayer is fuck off huge and her armor is really insane. I think it was if I remember right something built out of a magical material of nothingness or something.He would probably win but even the dragon slayer would have issues doing anything. It's pretty hard to kill a demigod spider born out of a being born from nothingness.