Rolled 82Banditry Primer Edition anotherwise known as the newbie's guide.Last thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31961297/>>31961297Last time we finally had the funeral for the old man, had some recruiting done, a raid, met some interesting people, read some notes, and finally had some mighty fun events occur even including a crashed Guardian within our base.>>>Turn 19>>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons>>>>>>D. Research technology>>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations>>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something>>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials>>>>>>H. Your choice>>>>: Resources 1. 2 loots>>>>Pop 500(130 slave, 50 mutant, 100 ghoul, rest normal)>>>>Military 350>>>>>>Fuel: Good>>>>>>Food: Below Average>>>>>>Water: Average>>>>>>Morale: Excellent>>>>>>Medicine: Average>>>>>>Health: Below Average>>>>>>Armaments level: Above Average>>>>>>Tech level: Salvaged Old World>>>>>>Reputation: Bandit Scum>>>>>>>Infrastructure: Officer Quarters. Barracks. Pod Room. Medical/Vehicle Bay. Armory. Storage Units Complex. Sensor Suit Milspec. Cells. Ammo Dump. Supply Depot. Reinforced Structures.>>>>>>Defenses: Bunkers. Razor Wire Fence Defense Net. Turrets. Braced. Fortified(milspec). Countermeasure System.>>>>>>vehicles: 5 paramilitary tanks. 2 paramilitary Birds.4 Paramilitary Choppers 3 paramilitary APCs(hover).20 Bandit technicals >>>>>>Power: Unstable Nuclear Reactor, emergency biofuel generators. City Power>>>>>>Weapons: Pistols, rifles, Grenades, SMGs, Shotguns, Throwers. Spewers. Mono-Knives, machetes, axes, spears. Cross(bows). Slings. Impaler. Blade Launcher. Heavy Weapons(assorted)>>>>>>armor: Outcast Wraps, Salvage Plating, Wire mail, Basic Armor(limited)>>>>>>communications: Radio. Milspec internal comms.>>>>>>Materials: Supplies, Ammo Dump. Armaments parts. Vehicle Parts. Spare Parts.
>>32000034What are the robots doing? What are the crazies doing?Are both the Madam and The Ravager Niece still here?What's the wether like outside today?
>>32000175Seconding these questions.
Rolled 97>>32000175Bots are chilling but seem to be concentrated near the lab access.Crazies are...well insane at the moment they are tripping balls and trying to uh build things?Crazies have revealed their projects.Discovered Project EyeballDiscovered Special JuiceDiscovered Madness and YOUMadam has departed while Ravager niece is going through her deceased uncle's belongings.Weather is very nice.
>>32000034Also did this stuff get resolved?>>31970729>>31970618
>>32000303Can they speak?"You're an AI Bal, are you able to determine their intentions, programming, origins, etc.">>32000303>Discovered Project Eyeball>Discovered Special Juice>Discovered Madness and YOU*sniff sniff* "I SMELL CRAZY AND I'M INTERESTED! WHAT ARE YOU GUYS COOKING? DON'T MIND I'M SPEAKING IN CAPITAL LETTERS."
>>32000303>protect eyeball I think your going to have to give me the run down on that one...
Rolled 6>>32000354>>32000370I'd like answers to these as well
Rolled 51>>32000354bots are loyal to me. Intentions was originally to keep things contained then it broke out. Forced to withdrawal to next chokepoint. Origins are from within the lab where they were built varies.>>32000354Project madness and you was the first when they thought it would be awesome to create something MADNESS inducing. Instead it just made them run out of energy so they thought to create special juice. That was when their eyes begun to hurt so they began project eyeball to protect their eyeballs.Instead they ended up with a floating eyebot that shot laser beams from its eye when they were actually after something like eye drops. How they went from one to the other....no idea.
Rolled 42>>32000539"A giant floating eye with lasers? What do you mean it looks just Grenadier Demoman Nel's left eye?Who was in charge of this whole thing anyway? Wasn't it that guy with the staff, what was his name, Marasmus or something?"blatant wizard officer fishing
>>32000539By the way, this was the /consensus/ from last thread>>31977704>>31977851
>>32000539"Our badass urban scouts are going to need to incorporate your prototype floating eye into their ranks. You will be provided with funding and a really sweet pair of sunglasses in compensation, if that is agreeable to you guys"
Rolled 80>>32000713Scouts sent out to find new targets despite all the 'pleasure' areas located literally fucking everywhere(and actually fucking at that). It was tough to find something that wasn't well doing all of that. They did find a few place's including a clinic and base of some kind crawling with heavily armed mofos besides that we didn't find anything.>>>Turn 20>>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons>>>>>>D. Research technology>>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations>>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something>>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials>>>>>>H. Your choice>>>>: Resources 1. 2 loots>>>>Pop 500(130 slave, 50 mutant, 100 ghoul, rest normal)>>>>Military 350>>>>>>Fuel: Good>>>>>>Food: Low>>>>>>Water: Below Average>>>>>>Morale: Good>>>>>>Medicine: Average>>>>>>Health: Below Average>>>>>>Armaments level: Above Average>>>>>>Tech level: Salvaged Old World>>>>>>Reputation: Bandit Scum>>>>>>>Infrastructure: Officer Quarters. Barracks. Pod Room. Medical/Vehicle Bay. Armory. Storage Units Complex. Sensor Suit Milspec. Cells. Ammo Dump. Supply Depot. Reinforced Structures.>>>>>>Defenses: Bunkers. Razor Wire Fence Defense Net. Turrets. Braced. Fortified(milspec). Countermeasure System.>>>>>>vehicles: 5 paramilitary tanks. 2 paramilitary Birds.4 Paramilitary Choppers 3 paramilitary APCs(hover).20 Bandit technicals >>>>>>Power: Unstable Nuclear Reactor, emergency biofuel generators. City Power>>>>>>Weapons: Pistols, rifles, Grenades, SMGs, Shotguns, Throwers. Spewers. Mono-Knives, machetes, axes, spears. Cross(bows). Slings. Impaler. Blade Launcher. Heavy Weapons(assorted)>>>>>>armor: Outcast Wraps, Salvage Plating, Wire mail, Basic Armor(limited)>>>>>>communications: Radio. Milspec internal comms.>>>>>>Materials: Supplies, Ammo Dump. Armaments parts. Vehicle Parts. Spare Parts.
hmm let me think of actions
>>32000913>clinic+easy target +valuable drugs+valuable doctors -people like clinics-possible government installation >bunker+impressive target+likely has an armory +seems hostile-well armed-unknown faction I would like to look at the bunker. Seeing as we generally want to be good-ish bandit outcasts whatever that means I do have faith that we can raid this bunker.
>>32000913"Master Trill, you are our best, but we must know everyones limitations and abilities.How easily could you explore the bunker without being caught? And we all know how unpredictable and dangerous bunkers are...What thinks you of the clinic by the way?"
Rolled 71>>32001390>>32001390>>32001390"Breaking into a bunker without getting caught? hah we're scouts not ninjas or some shit like that so I would say its not looking all that promising. As for the clinic well more like a hospital but you have to consider the size of the 'actual' hospitals. It takes care of the local needs most unsurprisingly sexually related."
Rolled 25>>32000913>basic: tril and the badass urban scout team scout out the base with heavily armed "mofo's" bring the crazy eye protect floating laser bot. Scout them good, we want to know the best ways in and out, where the good looting is, ect. They know the drill.
>>32001453see >>32001434>"Breaking into a bunker without getting caught? hah we're scouts not ninjas or some shit like that so I would say its not looking all that promising. not a good idea, we need more stealth capability first
Alright, raiding the bunker is bad without us knowing whats in there and the hospital sounds like a place we shouldn't raid because everybody probably use it and it's very important for the economy of the sector.Then again.>>32001434What do we know about hospitals, are they free or do you have to pay? Who frequents them? If we were hurt, could we go there for aid?
>>32001480I think it's because of the key word you used>>32001390>exploreScouting and exploring are not one and the same.
Rolled 91>>32001528Uh no they are not free...except for some which are positively ghetto bare bones, overcrowded, and understaffed full of either broken or shit staff. This is coming from an AI of all people.Who frequents them is whoever can afford to...unless your deemed scum of course. Like say most mutants, ghouls, bandits that sorta thing.No. You would have to find one that is less...issues with your kind.
>>32001537Do we really want to attack a bunker without exploring it?How many times has that been any good.
>>32001528Great question..>>32001574Oh is THAT how it is eh? Fuck those stuck up sons of bitches! It's on. We are raiding all the drugs.
>>32001638Right. And thankfully, this should be within our reach.>>32001574We did specifically ask Tril to scout out places we could feasibly attack alone of course.So now the choice is further intelligence or conduct a raid proper?>>32001574"Okay, how about that hospital? If you can't explore in there and expect to be unseen, can you at least scout around and look for shortcuts, escape routes, weaknesses, etc. without being seen?"
>>32001707More intel>food lowBut not too much time spent on that. Also remember to hit the hospitals food supply it likely comes from the farm
>>32001794Hrmm, crap the food. Survival first, then drugs.So we can either hit the farms againorwhat about those dispenser things we found 1 or 2 threads ago?
>>32001855They turn loot into food, but I think loot can already be auto turned into food. Loot can be anything if we are clever. >we forgot about bling bling voucher girl.
>>32001936>bling bling voucher girlShit remind me who she was again? She was the one who went out with (former) White Avenger right?>>32001574Requesting answer to this>>32001707>(to Master tril)"how about that hospital? If you can't explore in there and expect to be unseen, can you at least scout around and look for shortcuts, escape routes, weaknesses, etc. without being seen?"
>>32001959She basically won the fucking lottery, told a hero to fuck off, came home, and we have not looked into it at all. It's seriously driving me up the walls over here. How do you think the crazies are funding their research? We are just going to let the crazies have all the fun with those vouchers? I'll bet they spent them already on a lifetime supply of rubber duckies or some shit.
>>32002012Wait, she was OURS?All this time I thought she was her own and independant and had left.
>>32002048Yes. She is a living among the crazies and we have no idea which crazy chick it is.
>>32001574"Bal, do you know how the crazies are funding their work?"
Rolled 74>>32002084Mostly what they scavenge, salvage, trash or whatever it is they deem 'useful'.
Rolled 76>>32002386Ok>basic: Tril and the badass urban scouts scout around the clinic and look for shortcuts, escape routes, weaknesses, etc. without being seen. Use the crazy floating eye.
>>32002386"How long till the auto venders fill up?" Maybe we can hit it up again and have the rest ready for raiding.
>>32002782Hey this my sound weird. But after we raid and get what we need from it. Lets give some out to the people. It should help out recruitment and rep. Maybe even get us a few more jobs.
Rolled 39>>32002946I kinda want to try and kidnap a good doctor or two. We could force them to work a free clinic for their freedom
Rolled 23>>32002806"They get refilled semi regularly."
>>32002991Maybe we could build our own as a front for dealings and more income.
Rolled 33>>32003059That's a too big of an idea, I just want to get >health: good
Rolled 31>>32003006Cool>>32002782Ok will back this vote if we can send the bling (with help) to get some more food and water. If they have ammo that as well.
>>32003102True, I like to dream big to much.
Okay, left for an hour, came back.We got a plan down guys?
Rolled 22>>32002782Alright, still didn't get an answer to my question, but will vote.
Rolled 19>>32002782Voting, let's raid that hospital soon. Get all dem hot nurses and doctors.
Rolled 85>>32002782Tril and company scouted out the clinic. According to them it has a docking/unloading bay and a place to house vehicles some security measures(this is a rough part of town afterall). Weakness wise will be the sheer volume of people going through once we attack though that will dry up but they will still have to worry about their charges.Shortcuts...well the air counts and there might be a way to do so underground.Additional weaknesses would be the fact that they clearly are not meant to be combat heavy and while they do try to use safeguards that can't do it to such a degree as chase off people.Floating eye meanwhile has floated off somewhere causing us to lose it much to the sadness of the Insane.
Rolled 82>>32003771AlertWe have lost some slaves to malnourishment.lost 30 slaves.Bandit caravan has returned returning our guys and taking 100 with them this time around. They have paid us in drugs, munitions, and booze.They even complimented our forces.>>>Turn 21>>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons>>>>>>D. Research technology>>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations>>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something>>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials>>>>>>H. Your choice>>>>: Resources 1. 2 loots>>>>Pop 370(130 slave, 50 mutant, 100 ghoul, rest normal)>>>>Military 350>>>>>>Fuel: Good>>>>>>Food: Very Low>>>>>>Water: Low>>>>>>Morale: Average>>>>>>Medicine: Average>>>>>>Health: Below Average>>>>>>Armaments level: Above Average>>>>>>Tech level: Salvaged Old World>>>>>>Reputation: Bandit Scum>>>>>>>Infrastructure: Officer Quarters. Barracks. Pod Room. Medical/Vehicle Bay. Armory. Storage Units Complex. Sensor Suit Milspec. Cells. Ammo Dump. Supply Depot. Reinforced Structures.>>>>>>Defenses: Bunkers. Razor Wire Fence Defense Net. Turrets. Braced. Fortified(milspec). Countermeasure System.>>>>>>vehicles: 5 paramilitary tanks. 2 paramilitary Birds.4 Paramilitary Choppers 3 paramilitary APCs(hover).20 Bandit technicals >>>>>>Power: Unstable Nuclear Reactor, emergency biofuel generators. City Power>>>>>>Weapons: Pistols, rifles, Grenades, SMGs, Shotguns, Throwers. Spewers. Mono-Knives, machetes, axes, spears. Cross(bows). Slings. Impaler. Blade Launcher. Heavy Weapons(assorted)>>>>>>armor: Outcast Wraps, Salvage Plating, Wire mail, Basic Armor(limited)>>>>>>communications: Radio. Milspec internal comms.>>>>>>Materials: Supplies, Ammo Dump. Armaments parts. Vehicle Parts. Spare Parts.
>>32003814"Anytime guys, anytime.Hate to ask, but could you spare some grub? We're about to go out on da hunt and get more but are a little low right now and you know what they say an army marches on their stomach."
Rolled 99>>32003855"Sorry we never have spare rations its the price it is to be bandits. Well more along the lines of it being a massive pain to acquire as those who have it tend not want to let go of it and those who do wish to...well its not the exact stuff your gonna want if you catch my drift."
>>32003814Alright, I'm cooking up a plan, in the meantime is the Ravager niece still around?If she is"Hey, your uncle was the best damn ravager we new, old bastard could shoot and loot at the same time (ravage).Now, you're a ravager that ain't no easy title to earn. We wish he were here to help us, but the madam is gone, so for now you're the next best thing.We're about to go on a sting, would you be able to help us loot AND raid at the same time like the old man could?"
Rolled 66>>32003970"That is because he was the only ravager you knew. Heh as for that last part...isn't that what raiders are for? The art of the ravage isn't something nearly so lowly or simple. Its not meant for shit that even scum raiders can accomplish. No. We are in an entirely different world. We take what cannot be taken, we do not merely raid no because that would mean that we are limited in what we can take. I am a ravager NOT a shitty raider. Come back to me when you want to steal a heart, loot a hive, or acquire technique itself."She mad by the way. Heh to call a ravager a mere raider I am considered rampant and even I know better. We have an understanding of each other you know? She is like her uncle we share that same sorta understanding.
>>32004128>Anon slaps himselfGoddammit, that's an unessary wrench in the works.But now we know. We'll approach her for the big operations then.
Rolled 85>>32004128>basic: Time to raid the clinic. Same tactics used >>31968611 except without the romo raiders. Otherwise known as "standard operating procedure", we raid the clinic by the books, and try to find their damned food stocks.
Rolled 33>>32004179Nah you just asked incorrectly moron. Her ravage ability makes looting look like its for chumps.
>>32004255I'm working on a plan which caters to the new info given by tril.>>32004262Was just going by the definition is all>RAVAGE: There ain't nothin you can't loot even if its nailed down...hell even if its nailed down you just got yourself some FREE fucking nails! How awesome is that?
>>32004313>giddy with anticipation
Rolled 68>>32004313>>>31968611Ravage is an ultra strong version of looting. It enables to acquire stuff that normal looting wouldn't work for. Such as that heavy as statue or that building over there?You just looted it.It even has conversion abilities and other qualities depending on the hero.Voss for example had one particularly awesome version.You are unaware of her own blend of ravage but its basis is you to loot the unlootable.
>>32003814Dam it we lost people. Ok so we can't make our one food and water. But can a loot be made into something that makes food or water?Nice that we got ammo. But could they have asked before we lost 100. But it's a clinic so we got some edge still.
>>32004454I think we still have a couple of supply units. Could burn one of those to temporarily fix the food/water issues.Or we could take over the farm towers already.
Alright, here's the jist of it.We're going to need to make a distraction which causes them to think we are going after their patients and wards (a tempting slave target yes, but not what we are truly after).The real objective of this mission is the food and drugs and medical equipment, and tangent to these, the vehicle bay.Sam Leader Sammy, Gal'Kal, and Gaus crew Chief will take up an elevated and hidden position outside the hospital giving them ample targets through the windows and allow Sam to watch out for air reinforcements. They will provide sniper support as we clear out the building from the outside.One group, the larger, will mount a frontal assault and go directly for the patient wards. Ideally this would be led by our most resiliant forces such as the Mutants, and backed by machine gunners and gatling forces (and heroes such as Heavy Divisions Chief Mulka). Their purpose is to initially attack and make it seem like they are going for the patients, *while moving through their supplies, but their real objective ties into the second group.>con't
>>32004505If we have a supply I'm down for that. I believe it up all our stats by one. All most forgot "Consuming a loot can boost any stat even pop". I love taking notes,I know right.
>>32004548Another group will attack through the airvents and head their way into the vehicle bay. This group will be lead by Trill and his scouts, and will lead our lone badasses who are good at remembering direction, however at the front of their Saw Thrower Officer Sawyer with Impaler Master behind him. Emphasis on saw thrower taking at the front in the air ducts, who would want him to be behind you with those saws?Their mission is locate and attack the vehicle bay and take whatever vehicles there are there be it ambulances or whatever. Saw Thrower Officer Sawyer will take point and then drop down and slash every enemy they see while the forces behind him such as Impaler Master provide ranged support.>>32004389I WOULD have liked to ask the Ravager Niece for this part of the mission to loot and drive the getaway vehicles because it's the most vital, but I bet that's too easy and mundane for the likes of her.Once the vehicles are taken, our forces stop attacking the patients and proceed pick up and to loot all the drugs food medical equipment etc. and then back up real quick into the vehicle bay and make good our escape. The vechs would make a fine addition, and in the least let us carry far more out that we would have on foot.While our main forces retreat/fight their way to the vehcile bay, which if all goes well 2nd group has taken, behind them they are to enact a scorched earth policy so they don't just get shot in the back while carrying the loot.If they have a psych-ward, have our Crazies unleash their crazies and turn them on their former doctors and make a mess of things to cover our escape and meddle with THEM.Get the goods to the vehicles (both captured hospital and our own), get on them, and bail the fuck out with what we need.Note: If you see anything like an enemy hero, call another hero such as Netter and Harpooner. If not, they should be set to capturing other high value targets such as experienced doctors, nurses, etc.
>>32004505What exactly does "take over the towers" mean to you? We already beat them up every 5 turns or so, do you think if we beat them down extra hard this time they will just "submit" to our whims? Do we put exploding dog collars on them? Come up with a plan to control them and then I will consider it.
>>32004593>>32004548Love it. Anybody want to add or change anything before I cast my vote?
>>32004548>>32004593Nice nice. Maybe let Hot Buns and the ghouls have fun with the dead or dieing people. The remaining fill any holes where Officer Ice and/or Trill will need them.
>>32004716Hrmm, I was hoping for that we could have Impaler shiskebab some of em while Hot Buns cooks em. We take em on the vehcs too for a meal.Actually, thats even better I say we have Impaler from the 2nd group to the first JUST for that."You boys ready for some fast food? Because we're gonna get pickup, just gotta cook it a bit."Anyway, someone please look into this plan for it's achilles heel because I'm sure fucked when it comes to finding that.
>>32004787Do we have anybody on overwatch, or anybody guarding the homestead?
>>32004618>Militarily conquer tower>Enslave occupants to work the farms with usTakes too much time for us to scout+raid every time we need more food or water.
>>32004787The main thing to remember is we lost 100 from jobs. But >>32004833 this is about it our men know their job well now. They shouldn't be stupid about most things. Just tell them to fill the gaps and have some ready at home just in case.
>>32004833I would have Officer Ice take this up, this is a timed and syncrhonus operation and needs someone clearheaded.She had her fun last time, this time it's overwatch duty, but next time we'll let her have fun some more.Home wil be guarded by bots and ghouls this time. Tell them they can cook up those 30 dead and we'll be back with extra fresh and piping hot takeout.
>>32004896On second thought, no bring them along that isnt FRESH enough.Hmm, who to keep at home who to keep at home. . .
>>32004548>>32004787Gal'Kal the mutant is more of a close in kind of fellow.We don't know where their airvents are (I don't think so anyway). We don't really have enough information to tell whether this plan will go alright or horribly wrong. If I had to identify a "point of first failure" so to speak, then it would be that everything hinges on taking the Vech Bay...which is probably heavily defended and has a smaller group heading towards it.
>>32004548>>32004593>>32004973You also don't make use of the ghouls. They'd do well in the airvent group (if they're not mostly ferals...I don't know about our composition there) due to their CQC buffs.
>>32004896The ghouls got left out last time and were VERY disappointed.The bots don't experience emotions though, so they should be fine.
>>32005015We can ask BAL if they would like to join the raid. Side question. Didn't BAL say they were holding something back?
>>32004973>Gal'Kal the mutant is more of a close in kind of fellow.Really?>Big ass sniper rifle with a whole lotta kill. Weird seeing her out this far...until I found out i was mistaken. Weird though swear they could of been related.>We don't know where their airvents are (I don't think so anyway). >>32003771Trill said that "the air counts and there might be a way to do so underground."Did he mean air DUCTS or did he mean our air path (choppers, aircraft, etc.)>requesting genie clarification >>32004389> If I had to identify a "point of first failure" so to speak, then it would be that everything hinges on taking the Vech Bay...which is probably heavily defended and has a smaller group heading towards it.Yeah, that is the most dangerous part. that's why I wanted to go through the airvents (if possible) and try to pull as many people away from the vehicle bay by making them desperate to hold their charges.They are probably sensible people and would expect an underground, but they wouldn't expect chainsaws falling from the ceiling and our best popping in behind them.>>32004991>>32005015Yeah, I am suggesting we bring the ghouls so they can eat on the nice BBQ that Impaler+Hot Bunns are gonna make. The freshes meat there ever is
>>32005109Ohh, wait who's the big tank of a mutant heavy weapons specialist? I thought his name was Gal'Kal, my bad.
>>32005141Mutant Heavy weapons master Gorsh>The mutants version of a 'heavy' if you could consider a walking tank a heavy. Kinda overkill you know but well mutants DO tend to be a bit skewed when it comes to such matters.
>>32005109>>32003771Requesting Genie clarification.Did officer trill say the air ducts are an option, or the airspace is an option (flying in with our paramilitary choppers etc.)
Rolled 85>>32005222Will admit the air ducts were an interesting idea not quite sure how you plan to get so many guys through them though.
>>32005222Oh damn, that's a nail in my plan then.Hrmm, now to rework it.>>32005245I had thought that he meant air ducts were an option and thus they would be big enough for at least a group of people moving single file.
>>32005222>Intentions was originally to keep things contained then it broke out."BAL what broke out?"
>>32005324When [REDACTED] broke out, of course.
OKAYNew plan for Group 2Once group 1 is decently within the hospital compound, our air forces are going to attack the vehicle bay from the outside.Rocket Troops will blast a hole in the vech bay wall and Missile Troops and Explosives will take down any vehicle inside that tries to stand in our way.Lightning and Ice forces (bar Officer Ice who will overwatch) will act as point defenses and take out any AA or AT missiles or shells that try to take out our vehicles.Our vehicles are going to do anything good inside the building, so devote it to this part bring in the birds the choppers the apcs etc. Get them ready to evac the forces within the hospital as soon as can be done.Lone Badasses and Urban Scouts new duty is to lead the group 1 from to the vech bay and make sure they don't get lost or hindered.
>>32005373I mainly want to know if we need to start working on under ground more. Maybe we can get more robot allies.
>>32005380*air forces and vehicleAnyone object?
>>32005380I assume group 1 is made up of the people free and are not watching the base as back up.
>>32005445What I know is that if I were Genie and I wanted to hint that we need to get what's going on underground under control soon and I had a critical success random event...I would send a bunch of badass robot refugees up from the underground.
>>32005491Yes, the same group of heavies who will be mounting the front assault and preferably under cover of the snipers who will be firing throught he windows.Group 1 will also include the Ghouls, who will be enjoying the free shiskebabs that Impaler and Hott Buns will be providing.
So to resum my planBasic1We're going to need to make a distraction which causes them to think we are going after their patients and wards (a tempting slave target yes, but not what we are truly after).The real objective of this mission is the food and drugs and medical equipment, and tangent to these, the vehicle bay.Sam Leader Sammy, Gal'Kal, and Gaus crew Chief will take up an elevated and hidden position outside the hospital giving them ample targets through the windows and allow Sam to watch out for air reinforcements. They will provide sniper support as we clear out the building from the outside. Officer Ice will be stationed with them for overwatch.One group, the larger, will mount a frontal assault and go directly for the patient wards. Ideally this would be led by our most resiliant forces such as the Mutants, and backed by machine gunners and gatling forces (and heroes such as Heavy Divisions Chief Mulka). Their purpose is to initially attack and make it seem like they are going for the patients, *while moving through their supplies, but their real objective ties into the second group.The ghouls will be with them too, and Impaler and Hotbuns will be cooking up the freshies meat we can get (living and walking meat) for a take out BBQ>con't
>>32005598Aw you got to it before me.
>>32005598Lone baddases and urban scouts will be attached to them to ensure they don't get lost.That is Group 1.Once group 1 is decently within the hospital compound, our air forces are going to attack the vehicle bay from the outside. This will be Group 2.Rocket Troops will blast a hole in the vech bay wall and Missile Troops and Explosives will take down any vehicle inside that tries to stand in our way.Lightning and Ice forces (bar Officer Ice who will overwatch) will act as point defenses and take out any AA or AT missiles or shells that try to take out our vehicles.Once the vehicle bay is opened up and/or taken our other forces (group 1) stop attacking the patients and proceed pick up and to loot all the drugs food medical equipment *that they should have been walking to on the way to the patient ward (the false target) etc. and then back up real quick into the vehicle bay and make good our escape. The vechs would make a fine addition, and in the least let us carry far more out that we would have on foot.While our main forces retreat/fight their way to the vehcile bay, which if all goes well 2nd group has taken, behind them they are to enact a scorched earth policy so they don't just get shot in the back while carrying the loot.If they have a psych-ward, have our Crazies unleash their crazies and turn them on their former doctors and make a mess of things to cover our escape and meddle with THEM (make sure to do this only after our forces have gotten away and not get bogged down by crazies.)Our vehicles are going to do anything good inside the building, so devote it to this part bring in the birds the choppers the apcs etc.Get the goods to the vehicles (both captured hospital and our own), get on them, and bail the fuck out with what we need. If you see anything like an enemy hero, call another hero such as Netter and Harpooner. If not, they should be set to capturing other high value targets such as experienced doctors, nurses, etc.
>>32005685*AIR AND VEHICLE FORCES, NOT JUST AIR
Rolled 92>>32005685>>32005598Sounds like a plan.
Rolled 3>>32005598>>32005685VotedRolledLets kick some ass
Rolled 21>>32005598>>32005685Rolling for the plan>>32005731We're going to need a better roll than that anon
Rolled 40>>32005761You mean like this roll? >>32005711
Rolled 44>>32005598>>32005685Rest watch base or fill gaps. Linking> >32005222Roll for plunder!
Rolled 57I love how we're a bunch of outcasts, but we're putting more time and effort into making tactical assaults plans than when we play actual paramilitary.
>>32005789Lol, So true. Be we learned so much from them.
>>32005789We also have more officers and specialized troops than we the last time we played paramilitary.
>>32004389>Ravage is an ultra strong version of looting. It enables to acquire stuff that normal looting wouldn't work for. Such as that heavy as statue or that building over there?>You just looted it.>It even has conversion abilities and other qualities depending on the hero.Wait, so is this like Ork looting/conversion?Holy hell have I been missing out on the potential then, I thought it just meant stealing.Shit, we could make looted versions of all sorts of things!
>>32005826Training is a very powerful tool.
>>32005874That is way we need to get back to it. Me must clam the food towers.
>>32006009We* Yes one person must clam it.
>>32004618>Do we put exploding dog collars on them? I'm pretty sure that is an actual slaver item.We have slaves under our control already, and sucessful largescale slavery is a thing. Remember the Skullfuckers who would throw hundreds of slaves into the radiation infested mines everyday just to get at some extra resources.
>>32006079>32004618 #Really the way is to leave some armed guards there to force them to do what we want under penalty of death. Problem is that we only have 350 military.
>>32006146If we properly break them then it wouldn't be too much of an issue.
>>32006146Make use of the inside men to keep in line. They can give us info and help control them.
>>32006146>>32006164That or we thin them out through selling the more useless ones or feeding them to the ghouls.
Rolled 32>>32005861Voss had a particularly nasty version if you trawl the archives.>>32005598Forces have been stashed and put into overwatch.Primary force meant for distraction purposes dispatched. They ended up fighting surprisingly hard as security systems popped up(and were promptly crushed) and their security forces did their best to hold us off...when they realized we were heading towards their patients abruptly they started to fight that much harder.That was when our second force was dispatched hitting the vehicle bay...which was surprisingly empty. Like super empty appears to be meant for only a quick pitstop(ambulances) or unloading of cargo thus rarely vehicles were there. So group 1 shifted focus while group two suddenly found it self under assault from a new force.That was when we found ourselves getting hit with company as some fast reacting flyer forces came up from the air. Luckily our forces on overwatch popped up and ambushed the rescuers.Crazies meanwhile decided to have some fun running off hooting and howling into the clinic. Goal unknown but we suspect that they are after their psych ward.AlertSecond group is under attack from unknown force. The force is sandwitched between our two groups and seem focused on elimenating the second while the other is busy.AlertOverwatch has ambushed from unknown flying force.What do?
>>32006208Damn well defended hospital, then again I guess for a hospital to exist in this district it'd have to be.
>>32006172>>32006164So we just expect them to pay on time under threat of violence? That's called extracting tribute, which is what I want to do.>>32006174That's more like "taking over the tower", it's gritty and I don't recommend it, but it may work.
>>32006255No, we expect to occupy the towers and then use the former owners as slave labor. It's really not that hard to understand.
>>32006248This is probably their version of a 911 response.>>32006255How would we be bandits if we didn't try being as gritty as we could be?>>32006208Hrmm, let me think. . .
>>32006255The inside men help run it. Keep tabs in ways we can't and give info on things we will need to do to keep people in line.>>32006208As for this. Thinking throw the Psycho at them.
>>32006294Occupation will work. How much of our 350 military will we be leaving there?
>>32006208We have them between our hammer and the anvil, now lets close the fist.Group 2 stay where they are and keep counter attacking the rescue force while overwatch does the same. Lightning forces and missiles take down those flyers, same goes for overwatch.Defend the evac point!Group 1 now it's time to start the next phase. Start grabbing and looting everything in sight, food, water, medicine, the straggler hopsital crew, and make their way to the vehicle bay.Hot buns and flamers burn out the path behind us, and acid guys start spilling behind us as well make sure we can't be followed.The rescue force is sandwhiched between us, so let's squish them and then get on our way.
>>32006396Beats me. Alternately we occupy them while we move their equipment out into our base, then reconsolidate into our base.
>>32006473Make use of Impaler Master iye and spike the air crafts wings and engines
>>32006546He's currently inside the building with group 1, but the moment he gets out YES absolutely.Also have our ice forces try and block their engines with ice if they have the range.
>>32006396We can always cut in a deal with the Ramo Raiders, they might be better slavers than us.We co-run this joint and reap the rewards>>32006544It's not just a matter of equipment it's the land.
>>32006473We could try dispatching our aircraft from our base to assist in evac or dealing with the rescue aircraft, you know.We've got paramilitary vehicles, why aren't we using them? Sure our pilots will be eh, but the equipment ought to compensate.
>>32006593Its a megacity, they're using hydroponics. A second base would be nice (we would definite ly want to add a secret entrance or three to the tower) but we dont want to spread ourselves too thin.
>>32006605We are>>32005685>Our vehicles are going to do anything good inside the building, so devote it to this part bring in the birds the choppers the apcs etc.They're the ones who are waiting in the evac point ready to help carry all the loot more than our guys can on foot.
>>32006544>You) #That's something that the Ravager niece can help us with."Ma'am we could use your expertise, what's the best way to steal the farm? Not like just the stuff, we kinda need the whole thing..."
>>32006711Now that;s thinking.
Rolled 4>>32006711"You want to steal the ENTIRE farm structure included? Well you see all you have to do is go through the Alcor Channel to the city underground works who keeps shitting running. You then divert the structure to rail with a howza for the final stretch. After that you have to send the codes...."Let me put it this way she knows exactly how to do it. If can accomplish it on the other hand is something else.
>>32006871Damn.Also, the city has an underground rail system? Wish I knew that earlier, so it's not just a giant ocean of monsters and baddies and hell down there in every inch.Also I think the response is pretty much this >>32006473Group 2 keeps counter attacking the rescue force and hold out,defend the evac point and evac vehicles (our vechs) that we brought along.Group 1 starts looting and carrying all that shit and goes to the vech bay to join the fight against the rescuers, load up our vehicles with as much loot as we can, and bail out of here with the goods
Rolled 48>>32006948For the most part.If we need to roll. Rolling
Rolled 65>>32006948Alright, I'll bite.
Rolled 97>>32006948Guess so.
Rolled 72>>32007196>>32005711Feels good to have the Goddess' favor as opposed to ire like the Gearheads had.
>>32007535https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IJCFc_qkHwFeels good to be a gangsta.
Rolled 45>>32006948Group two tries to counterattack but its hard going as our forces are not in all that great terrain(vehicle bay) while the enemy is deeper in the clinic and has a height advantage as they deployed from the rooftops.Group 1 continues to loot and has begun to work towards the vehicle bay. They work with alarming speed fitting even raiders would be proud. When they hit the enemy they hit them hard catastrophically so as they ended up quickly collapsing between the our two forces. They are attempting to withdraw upward towards the roofs.AlertEnemy aircraft as withdrawnALERTEnemy mechanized has arrived and deployed their forces in mass. They seem to be blocking our forces inside the vehicle bay/near it with their own vehicles while their infantry mostly deploy inside the clinic.AlertA portion of the enemy mechanized forces is going after our Overwatch forces.>>32007535Told you she has a thing for bandits.
>>32007587Time to bring in our reserve forces and make a quick getaway. "Bal, could you have your robots come give us a hand down here?"
>>32007587I am presuming we have our vehicles and aircraft within the vehicle bay preparing to load up the loot yes?
Rolled 82>>32007666Bot forces are otherwise engaged. I may be rampant but that doesn't mean I am stupid contrary to flesh bag popular belief.>>32007724Yes but they are sorta blocked in. Not to mention I don't recall you deploying your aircraft.
>>32007587Looks like time is up. Blow the walls and get the hell out. All forces with draw and fire at the enemy. Make sure our loot makes it out. Hot buns Roast every thing not us and flamers join it. Sonic weapon drop the bass to throw the enemy's aim off and damage tracking gear. (Is my vote.)
>>32007758We did deploy aircraft, it was part of the actions. We threw in most of our vehicles into this>>32005685>o devote it to this part bring in the birds the choppers the apcs So I'm presuming they either landed and prepared to load or they took part in the counter offensive against the flyers.
>>32007587"Hey douche bags with the vehicles and the infantry, leave right the fuck now or we blow the whole clinic sky high. We got what we wanted, so unless you want to be on "exploded corpse cleanup duty" for the next 4 months I would leave right now and don't do anything stupid"
Rolled 90>>32007847Error apparently by air bound sensors were operating incorrectly.>>32007855...Message sent but we have received no replies.Correction incoming transmission."I am calling your bluff."
>>32008020Well I'm down for burning it all. How about you guys? "Hot buns how about you. Think you can bring the heat?"
Alright, Overwatch is vulnerable at this point.Rockets will defend the vehicle bay from vehicles on the ground.I would like our aircraft to load up with missiles, explosive, ice, and lightning forces and attack the mechanized forces from the sky. Lightning will focus on point defense against AA missiles, ice will try and clog up their guns, and missiles and explosives will bomb the mech forces.An air group of the above should be dispatched to counter the portion of the mechanized forces, pick them up, and then snipers start picking off the rooftop forces while SAMMY is redeployed to watch out for a return of enemy craft.Group 1 will continue the push to the vech bay.>>32008020That means we do have our aircraft yes? We would've known from the start if they didn't come along with Group 2 like they were supposed to.>>32007855>>32008020Damnit, now we're gonna lose face if we DON'T blow up the whole building.We can only hope the crazies find the generator to this place or something. . .
>>32008020Fuck, he called my bluff. We don't need to blow up the clinic, we just need to blow up a nice hole in there lines for us to escape through."We don't want to kill fucking sick people, just get the fuck gone and nobody else needs to die today."
>>32008085no no no. Do not fall back. You keep it up. You make them pay. We are people of our word.
>>32008085"What!? We TOTALLY want to blow up this whole lot sky high, like the fucking fourth of July. It's not like they weren't going to die anyway. Don't be such a pansy."hey if NPC's get to have live arguments, so should we
>>32008080*Rockets will defend the vehicle bay from THEIR mechanized on the ground.
>>32008110I guess we blow it all up then. Not like we don't have enough explosive experts in our midst. More importantly, how do we get home.
>>32008192Flames of war, I mean hot buns or Maybe underground, But not the best pick.
Alright, so here is my proposalBasic 1Aircraft in the vehicle to load up with missiles, ice, and lightning forces.Rockets in the vehicle bay unleash a barage to make an opening for the aircraft to fly out and not get blown to bits. and then continue to defend from the ground.Lightning will focus on point defense against AA missiles, ice will try and clog up their guns, and missiles and explosives will bomb the mech forces.A group of them will be dispatched to counter the portion of the mechanized forces attacking overwatch, pick them up, and then snipers start picking off the rooftop forces from our aircraft while SAMMY is redeployed to watch out for a return of enemy craft.Group 1 continues to push their way through to the Vech Bay and if possible Flamers and Explosives prepare to blow up the whole hospital so we don't act like lying pussies.
>>32008406>Rockets in the vehicle bay unleash a barage to make an openingAnd by that i mean against their enemy forces, not open up a new hole in the roof, we do not want this whole place to collapse by blowing it up with our forces in it.No, we do that AFTER we leave.
Rolled 65>>32008406Hell yeah!
>>32008406Edit:Explosives will not join the attacking group, but rather stay and wait for the return of Group 1 and prepare to blow up the place to kingdom come.
Rolled 23>>32008406Not sure if the air craft we have can hold them all. But I'm game.>>32008502That could weaken the push out to much.
>>32008550Truth. >>32008502Rescinding this. Explosives will join to drop bombs on the mechs.It's up to our flamers to prepare the explosions.
Rolled 56>>32008406Rolling>>32008550Their mission isn't to defeat them all by themselves, but buy time until Group 1 can join up and help us fight our way out and through them with all our cobined forces
Rolled 85>>32008406This could be better, but I'll vote for it because fuck typing things out on a tablet.
Rolled 21>>32008406Aircraft loaded up.Barrage has been engaged though considering our lack of numbers or things that can shoot lots of rockets its effect had some to be desired as we lost one aircraft on the getaway while at least one of the others is heavily damaged.Casualties for escape aircraft1 aircraft20 troopsGroup of aircraft sent to overwatch. they picked up the survivors but they suffered serious casualties. During their escape the enemy also continued to fire at them before heading off to reinforce their primary force.25 lossesSAMMY criticalICE wounded.Precious few were unwounded.Group one is at the vehicle bay already. As for blowing up the hospital they claim its not possible.AlertEnemy aircraft detected and are inbound.AlertMassed enemy infantry are approaching from inside the building towards our forces.AlertAircraft harassment has left some to be desired causing us to lose a chopper along with the troops onboard.Orders?
>>32008899My vote is do our best to make a smoke screen and Get every one the fuck out. Burn and fire at all that get in our way. We can stay any longer.
>>32008899Okay, we are about to be caught in our own hammer and anvil moment and we need to do everything in our to not have that happen.Sammy is incapacitated and she was our best AA unit, we're in a pickle here.The way I see it, we can continue to hold our ground inside the hopstial and avoid being bombed by their airforces and possibly do something against the aircraft and vehicles using the hospital as cover, but risk being swamped by further enemy reinforcements andorwe can make a final push out and push as hard as we fucking can with everything we still have and try to consolidate our losses as we're bombed by enemy aircraft on the way home.
>>32009035That or make use of the contacts we have. But they could be a good bit away. Maybe sweet talk the old man's niece.I assume the crazies are done with what ever they are doing.
>>32009091Hell, maybe if we stay we'll find out what the craziers are really up to.That said, if we leave now. . .we're leaving them behind.
Rolled 17>>32009035Aircraft shouldn't be too much of an issue, we move quickly and we're in a city. We should just punch out.We really should've done that last turn.
Rolled 80>>32009106I forgot about them, we cant leave them behind.
>>32009123Last turn we still had Group 1 to catch up which they did, and we had to rescue our overwatch group.So punch out then, alright, was thinking we have explosive leave some "presents" for those massed infantry.
>>32009144No we really can't.I think if we hold the hopsital, which we can for at least a bit longer and would avoid the aircraft and vehicles, make some deals and call in reinforcements through our contacts and hold out long enough for the crazies to finish whatever they are doing we just might be able to make it out of here with everybody.
>>32008899"Hey crazies you done? We got no more time we got to leave, Now!"Also note for next time we do not take more that a round on this. We smash and grab.
>>32009239Seconding this.The situation is not getting any easier here, our airforces were forced to leave and couldn't make more than a dent on them. We don't have overwatch, or SAM AA, I think they took the snipers home too.Time to follow the true and blue bandit motto."He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day."Let's make sure our loot outweights the casualties we've suffered and not loose anymore than we should.
>>32009239>>32008899Genie, do we have ANY contact with the crazies at all?
Alright, so to state some of the things we've learned today we really should take into account the time we take on our raids, as clearly the enemy reinforcements were far greater than we accounted for we did not expect not only an air reinforcement but also an entire mechanized army.
I'd like to make a plan on how we can push out but we can't leave our crazies neither can we leave our vehicles behind.
>>32009661Well it is a city and this a place of healing. But yeah we will need to make great use of what we learn here.
>>32009731We do well as ground troops. If we need to blow one up do it to live threw this, SO be it. Our peoples lives mean way more.
One option I am considering is that we consolidate everybody, fight our way through the hospital, and find the crazies.Then we'd have a choice of:fighting our way back through the vehicles and hope we have the strength to punch through tanks and aircraft and rooftop forces taking shots at us. ORWe fight our way through the tunnels previously suggested as an option, leave our vehicles behind, but avoid a large portion of their forces.Problem is. . .we're going to lose our vechs. We might be able to tell the Ramo Raiders this and see if they can mount a second raid to take them back and we give them a share, or hell, maybe even all of them I'd just hate to see the city forces take them and scrap them or use them.Hopefully whatever we do the crazies have a real good plan in our favor.
Alright, thinking of a plan and weighing options...
Dam it crazies this is way you charge your phone at night. So we can call you during the day. What are you people up to ...
Alright, this entire missions goal was food, water, and drugs. We have those and we have the vehicles.Our situation at home is starving. Even if we return with everyone, that will not solve that issue.To lose what we've gained would make this whole operation a failure, so we should pull out while we have what we came for. We need to leave with the loot and our vehicles while we still can.This was supposed to be a raid, not a battle, and we need to keep it like that.Basic 1Get everybody and everything on board our vehicles and ready for the last great push out of here. Deploy smoke in our trail so as to keep the enemy blinded. Try not to fire at their vehicles as much as you can fire at any enemy projectiles that could cause further harm towards us.
Rolled 91>>32010106Also rolling
Rolled 82>>32010106When you put it that way, alright, let's get out while we can.
Rolled 13>>32010106... Trying to think of any thing to add. But seems good. >>32008899"We getting the hell out crazies. Last chance."
Rolled 43>>32009239>>32009370Nope. Considering the lack of sounds of battle they appeared to have avoided the enemy.
Rolled 76>>32010106Troops load up on vehicles and attempt to break through. We managed it but not without suffering losses. We lost a APC and mostly techincals but and others who got hit with a lucky shot or three. Most vehicles were all hit to some degree or another. Luckily the popping smoke helped a bit as we made our getaway. We even managed to get out before the infantry came up on us so we didn't have to worry about anyone shooting our backside.
Rolled 48>>32010309>>>>Turn 212>>>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons>>>>>>>D. Research technology>>>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations>>>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something>>>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials>>>>>>>H. Your choice>>>>>: Resources 1. 2 loots>>>>>Pop 250(130 slave, 40 mutant, 60 ghoul, rest normal)>>>>>Military 350>>>>>>>Fuel: Good>>>>>>>Food: Very Low>>>>>>>Water: Low>>>>>>>Morale: Average>>>>>>>Medicine: Average>>>>>>>Health: Below Average>>>>>>>Armaments level: Above Average>>>>>>>Tech level: Salvaged Old World>>>>>>>Reputation: Bandit Scum>>>>>>>>Infrastructure: Officer Quarters. Barracks. Pod Room. Medical/Vehicle Bay. Armory. Storage Units Complex. Sensor Suit Milspec. Cells. Ammo Dump. Supply Depot. Reinforced Structures.>>>>>>>Defenses: Bunkers. Razor Wire Fence Defense Net. Turrets. Braced. Fortified(milspec). Countermeasure System.>>>>>>>vehicles: 5 paramilitary tanks. 2 paramilitary Birds.4 Paramilitary Choppers 3 paramilitary APCs(hover).20 Bandit technicals >>>>>>>Power: Unstable Nuclear Reactor, emergency biofuel generators. City Power>>>>>>>Weapons: Pistols, rifles, Grenades, SMGs, Shotguns, Throwers. Spewers. Mono-Knives, machetes, axes, spears. Cross(bows). Slings. Impaler. Blade Launcher. Heavy Weapons(assorted)>>>>>>>armor: Outcast Wraps, Salvage Plating, Wire mail, Basic Armor(limited)>>>>>>>communications: Radio. Milspec internal comms.>>>>>>>Materials: Supplies, Ammo Dump. Armaments parts. Vehicle Parts. Spare Parts.
Rolled 64>>32010331Pop 250Military 350Well that raid was kind of disastrous. Why didn't we just go for the farms again?
>>32010331O dam we skipped a lot of turns.So we got nothing from the fight then? I hoped for food or something. >>32010448I believe it was to show off.
Rolled 24>>32010473Hah, so much for that. Good luck, Crazies.So how do we get back on our feet again, since we're still starving?
Rolled 12>>32010448If it makes you feel better you gave them a bloody nose.>>32010473Yeah hadn't seen that mistake...
>>32010555loot for food/water and pop maybe. Rest for the day and heal/train. Then we scout the towers. Then do what we do and raid the shit out of them with the help of the niece.
Rolled 31>>32010652Eh, bloody nose it may be but they clipped a handy 1/3 of our total population.Its alright though, not being involved in planning means i don't feel massive guilt when it goes sour....Really though, should've just done the farms.
Rolled 65>>32010666We really, really should just conquer them. Looting for food/water (unless we pull something out our asses like with the autovendors...which we cant because no Crazies) isn't very productive because we're in a megacity.
>>32010787Only reason I say raid is the lost of numbers and the 100 on a job at the moment. When they get back we take every thing.... Hm. Maybe use the loot to do a bake sale and get more members. Not sure of the creative limit on loot.
Rolled 61>>32010836Fair point.I would say we should try recruiting from our slaves, but 30 of them starved the other turn and we didnt treat them nicely at the best of times, sooo.....
>>32010652So what did we gain from that bloody nose?
>>32010331Going with we gain little to nothing. Break a loot for snack cakes and get food in us.Lets check in with the tower people we bribed and scout the area again for anything new. Is my vote.
Rolled 32>>32011159We might want to give our informants a loot and break down a supply.
>>32011274That is, I think only units of supply can be broken down to boost a stat like food/water...though I think that maybe loot can be converted into supplies? I don't know anymore.Also, our informants have done great work for us for quite a while now without getting rewarded. We probably want to give them something as a reward if the logistics of it are possible. If we plan on conquering them though then it's a non-issue because we'll just integrate the traitors.
>>32011274That could work. Boost everything by one and give them a random bonus. >>32010331"How are things on your end?" (tower people)>>32011331>Loots can be converted to resources, supplies, or consumed/traded and even other uses(be creative).>Consuming a loot can boost any stat even pop(aka people become more fertile and your showing off makes recruitment easier).>Supplies when broken down will raise all your stats by one.
>>32011359Well, looks like it's just time for sleep since Genie seems to have nodded off.
>>32011834Yup. Maybe we can pick it up tomorrow. Take it easy every one.
>>32010448>>32010473Actually the real purpose of this mission wasn't to show off, it was to see if we are capable of raiding another target by ourselves without any assistance using the methods and tactics we've learned http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31961297/#p31977704>"We need to practice ourselves, without allies, and our first solo mission was. .okay, but could have been better. We've learned new things and are ready to try out new tactics."And apparently. . .we can't.>>32011159>>32011274>>32010652No but really, what DID we spent a considerable amount of time that much of our forces had looting through the whole place with the objective that they were to "Start grabbing and looting everything in sight, food, water, medicine, the straggler hopsital crew, and make their way to the vehicle bay."And holy hell am I glad this was just the hosptial, the bunkers would've aboslutely KILLED us if they were a harder target.I really hope out of all this we did not just get 100 dead men and truckloads of empty space.
>>32011843Yeah.On another note, I'm all for being circumspect and cautious and discussing our actions...but we took like 2 or 3 turns in a 200 post thread. Not that I know how to fix that.
>>32011886Oh yeah, the bunkers would've murdered our civ flat-out.To be fair, we're probably playing this a bit wrong. We should try to secure our food/water situation...and then delve into the secrets of our base to try to 'tech up', hoping of course that we're strong enough to not get insta-gibbed by whatever's down there.
>>32011888>I'm all for being circumspect and cautious and discussing our actions.>but we took like 2 or 3 turns in a 200 post thread.And apparently, today, despite all the thought we put into this we aren't thinking hard/long enough. . .I'm wondering if we shouldn't just devolve to an action a day/thread>>32011906Yeah, well, at least now we know what we're dealing with if we try to raid anyone who isn't the farmers or by ourselves.We should just stick to co-op raids for a long time we tasked Urban Scout trill to specifically pick out targets we have an easier chance of soloing and if this was his 2 best options we are really fucked and are in no position to solo anything for a long, long time. Not after this.
>>32011886That would suck if this is just a waste of time. >>32011888Maybe lessen what we fill out in plans. Try putting a little more trust in the ncps to do what works well. (I think we would need a general again for this.). But I think we will pick up speed as we do this more. We did this time around and I think it payed off. Just need to keep at it a little more.
I'm looking at the stats and the only thing I'm seeing changed is that loss of half our population.Did we loot ANYTHING at all as we cleaned out the hospital grounds? Not even a single scrap of "food, water, medicine" which was their main objective?NOT A SINGLE THING?
Rolled 24Problem is you have too many specialists. Most of your forces are strictly divided up when you teamed up with another group they provided more general grunts as well as more specialty units.
>>32012003How is having too many specialists a problem?I think what you mean to say is we don't have enough numbers or grunt muscle to back them up I understand that.But even still we did our best to try and make each specialist complement each other and fill in gaps in each others weaknesses.
>>32012003Also >>32012000Did we just leave the hospital empty handed!?When we basically looted from one side of the hospital to the other and the entire point of us pulling out was to make sure we didn't lose the precious food we were after, there is something horribly horribly wrong with us if we didn't find a single thing of interest in that hospital.We should have at least gotten some food from the enemy casualties that we ordered Hot Buns too cook up.
>>32011906One of the main objectives of the hospital raid was to help with the food/water situation.Unless they figured out how to feed patients from thin air something is fishy that we didn't get anything from the hospital.
Well, im going to go to bed and hope genie answers my questions tommorow.If it took us 300 posts and half our civ dead and all we managed to loot the entire time was some hospital air, we should never have been born.
Rolled 95>>32012026you have a bunch of heavies with only a handful of other specials. No joke your basic units are virtually nil.>>32012051You acquired medicine and loot.>>32012099You only acquired a little bit.
>>32012243>You acquired medicine and loot.Well, that's something at least. I didn't see it in the update stats though.A little bit isn't enough to bump us up from "very low" even at half population?
>>32012243The medicine and loot we gained are NOT in the latest stats by the way, presuming we did manage to loot them.
Rolled 1>>32012274This has been a very bad week for me anon should clear up sometime after next week though.
>>32012288If you say so Genie, we can only hope the best for you.If possible I'd like to continue the game tommorow but we are less than 100 posts to the bump limit and after todays monumental failure I really do feel like we need at least 200 posts of thorough analysis with our actions.We tried really hard to fight smart today, we did.
Rolled 75>>32012334Yes, I was rather impressed with you guys.
>>32012441That brings a degree of comfort to this anon more than you'll ever know Genie. It does.
Rolled 45So...the reason this ended up so bad was because we didn't have enough numbers?Not because of awful planning (mostly)?
>>32014526in defense it wasn't such a terrible plan like the one that ends civs.we just didn't factor in the unknowns, we didn't expect enemy reinforcements to come so fast and in such force (we had no idea they would receive mechanized reinforcements at all) neither did we expect to be bogged down so and unable to leave before those arrived.It was a raid that turned into a battle, and not in our favor. I think we grew overconfident after what a curbstomp the last battle with the Ramo raiders was (seriously no vehicles, no heroes, no reinforcements) and this was such a turnabout in enemy strength stronger than we've ever faced before.It sucks too because we asked Trill to scout out targets that would be easy for us to raid solo, but instead we ended up tackling a target harder than we've faced before and without allies.We suffered from a "lack of basic units" and muscle power. Our specials and heavies are excellent, but an army they do not make. If we wanted to fight that like we did, we should have had more men.
I also noticed that you can judge how good or bad a battle is going by the joviality of Genie.In the previous battle, he opened up with humorous banter from the medics, our forces enjoyed themselves, the flamers had their hot contest, everyone had a good time, and it all ended in a single post.I hoped we could have seen the same with the whole Impaler+Hotbuns shiskebab feast for our ghouls, but that was never mentioned during the fight. Instead we got 3 alerts, and had to keep fighting, and that should have tipped us off.When Genie gets serious, we know the battle is serious.
... Hm. Maybe we can find a caravan to raid. Some thing that will be quick and with low reinforcement. Unless every one at home needs a rest. If that is the case, I say rest and heal up. Contact Madam Azullasha ask if she would be willing to aid us (With info, training, etc.) for some trade goods like loots. Same with the niece. (Hopefully we can ask her the right way.) But out of all of this we need ways to keep food and water up.
>>32016845Think we can call in the Ramo Raiders for anotehr co-op again? We're at half strength, and I hope we've been building up good relations between us.
>>32016932We can try it. Nothing wrong with asking about more jobs. Main thing is I don't want to waste the niece's time and have her do nothing. She could end up leaving soon if we do.
Rolled 36>>32014820Your heavies are excellent most your specialists meanwhile need some love.
>>32017206Love as in training and better weapons?Also"Hey, Ramo Raiders. You guys up for another joint-op yet? We're a little strapped for food and tightening our belts right now, so we're really open to whatever terms you have in mind as long as it gets us something to eat."
Rolled 58>>32017247seconding that line of dialogue
Rolled 86>>32017247"We are planning to hit some restockers for supplies."
>>32018382"Sounds like you're about to hit exactly what we need, which right now is food and water. You give us those, we'll be open to giving you most of the rest.How soon can we be ready to move out?"
Rolled 63Dam it's still dead in here. >>32018382Nice. >>32018448 I hope it goes as well as last time we hooked up with them.
>>32019543Ocasionally, we should remember that the great and powerful Genie has a life of his own too.Can you imagine what it's like?
>>32019666What is "a life" and where can I torrent one?
>>32019666I think I can imagine how it's going for him all too well at the moment...Damn finals...
>>32019666Yeah I know, In fact I'm grateful that Genie even posted at all.
So, in an attempt to prompt discussion...What are we going to do now?
>>32023229If we can get that job with our "co workers". I think that will be our main goal. Other wise i say heal up and ready the tower raid. Also see what we can do to get the niece to help out.
>>32023305We really do need some spare food, and yeah that co-op with the Ramo's is of the utmost import. Next is readying for a tower raid, we might need to ask for another co-op because we're at such half strength and they have only grown stronger.
>>32023305>>32023362Have we considered asking them to assist us with raiding/conquering the towers?
>>32023393I haven't, Mainly because I feel like tower is our baby. But it would be smart to see if they would help.
>>32023393We could, if they deem it more valuable than their raid.>>32023463We're not gonna be able to do solo missions for a long time, today we attacked with our prime and with the best planning we could but it wasn't enough.We're gonna have to play it safe until we can rebuild our strength
>>32023486I meant after their raid."Hey, we scratched you guys' back now help us scratch ours. We're thinking of getting rid of our food problems for good."
>>32023546We are the ones asking them for a job. How about "Hey after this you know that tower we co-op on? Want to join us in taking it all?" or something
>>32023584Well yeah, either way we all agree that we'll need to enlist their assistance.And we can carry the Ravager Niece along so she can help us legitimately steal the hydroponics and such.
>>32023879Or the whole building. But first we would need to know what is underground.
>>32023924Let's not even try to start stealing the whole building. The equipment will be good enough (and possibly more than we can handle) by itself.
>>32024040I believe the niece said she knew how to and could. But is lacking some info. But yeah we just need the food and water stuff.
>>32024102She said she knew how, but as for being able to ACTUALLY STEAL A BUILDING well there are some technical difficulties with that.Also why would we want the whole building when we could just get the useful bits?
>>32024148So we can steal the stuff people use to make a new one.
>>32024148Why wouldn't we want more building materials?
>>32024282>>32024200Well okay, good luck. You know we only have 250 people in our faction though, right?
>>32024390We got friends on the other side, I mean inside. Plus any one else hungry. We can get a good horde behind us. But I agree with the main goal and action should be "Smash and grab". No messing around we lost to many all ready. But when we get our men back I want to see if we can get it all.
>>32024390Oh hell no I am not gonna back a raid like that right now I thought this was hypothetical.Shit we were at our strongest and we couldn't raid a hospital.
Should I just let it die?Anyone want to switch to the Foolish civ?
>>32028013Up to you.As fun as it could be. I think we would roll a 1 again and get all the heroes hurt. Like with the scouting mission. But it's up to how every one else feels.
Rolled 30Next Tuesday's game will be cancelled by the way should be good on Thursday though.
>>32028284Dam. Kick some ass at finals. (I assume that is why.)
Rolled 52>>32028348Pretty much at the moment life is fucking with me though so who knows.
>>32029733The dice gods they moved from /tg/ to real life. Fair, None the less hope it goes well. Life likes to throw curve balls here and there.
Rolled 18>>32019666Not as interesting as you would think anymore.>>32019877One thing i have learned is a boring life is a good life and having no life is even better.>>32028013Foolish Civ needs some fucking love already.>>32030033>>32030033If they were then i would more deep shit as dice goddess wouldn't be far behind. As is REALLY not looking forward to VR for...reasons thanks to a certain goddess.