If I tried to DM a civ game in this thread, would anyone be willing to play/guide it? No prior experience, just an enjoyment of civ building
also, links to civ builder resources would be fantastic. I don't want to have to go through Angrydorf's old threads and copy paste.
>>31769080I thought your picture was sideways
>>31770059I did too when I first saw it in my folders. It took me a couple seconds.
>HerpTrying this once moreDwarf: Forced to start in a mountainous region. Starts with iron tools, iron metallurgy tech, smithing tech, and brewing tech. Major penalty to magic, penalty to population.Elves: Starts with mastery of one school of magic, starts with wooden bows. Major penalty to population.Lizardmen: Start with wood working tech, starts with wooden spears, bonus to population, bonus to weapon&armor crafting. Cannot use magic, penalty to tech.Humans: No bonuses or penalties.Goblins: Major bonus to population, bonus to weapons&armor, starts with wooden spears and wooden bows. Cannot research tech, cannot use magic, carnivorous. Goblins gain technology by stealing enemies tech, smart goblins back engineer the tech so they can reproduce it.Orcs: Bonus to population, bonus to weapons&armor. Penalty to tech, major penalty to magic, carnivorous.Your Choice: Suggest an original race, the GM will state the penalties/bonuses for that race.(Keep in mind you can change the effects of the races by adding a locational prefix, I.E Forest Goblins, Mountain Elves.)
>>31769080OH LOOK ANOTHER CIV THREAD
>>31770354Just getting some DM experience. I'm open to suggestions.
>>31770340still here OP? I'll playGiants, (Frost maybe)Or dark elves
One more bump and then I'll let this die.
>>31770765>>31770768Well, that was good timing. Giants or elves? Sounds decent. Lemme know if you make up your mind while I think up some bonuses/penalties
Also, if you gave it a shot on /b you may get quicker responses. People are usually looking for civ threads there.I understand if you are hesitant if you don't go there much but the civ people aren't so bad. I can add an image used alot there if you would like
>>31770833I would prolly prefer giants, but if we get someone else and they would prefer DEs that fine with me too. I'm also willing to change if others join and its interesting.Here is the image I was talking about
>>31770838Add away! I'm just trying to get some experience and figured that /tg/ would have some sagely neckbears to help.
>>31770884Alright, Giants it is. Were you wanting a specific type, like Frost?
>>31770977I'm not picky, do it randomly or whichever one you would like to write the most. Anything interesting
>>31771015You can afford to be picky, if you like. The more prompts you give, the easier my job becomes.For Giants in general, I'm thinking a major bonus to combat, a minor bonus to smithing (maybe?). a minor penalty to magic, and a major penalty to population. Does that sound good?I'll need a location, too.
>>31771158Lets do mountains near forest, frost giants, or whatever you think is most suitable
>>31771213So, a Norwegian fjord? Alright. Frost giants will get the obvious flame weakness and cold resistance. Intelligence will be average (dumb giants are boring).>For Untold centuries, the Frost Giants had lived solitary lives, protecting their ancient lands against encroaching humans from the warmlands and goblins from the mountain innards. Dwarves too they had seen, although little was said between either race. Now, however, the push of the humans has begun to overwhelm the lesser frost giants and human encampments have sprung up in traditional Frost Giant lands. Against this threat, 10 Frost Giant families bonded together so that they might defend themselves better.>The first Frost Giant settlement has been founded. No longer will families live in isolated coves. Behold your lands!
I would have elaborated more but I thought I was taking a bit too long. Happy with the set-up? I'll rip off angrydorf for optionsA. Scavenge for food.B. Try to improve settlement.C. Try to improve weapons&armor.D. Try to improve technology.E. Your Suggestion
>>31771537Thats perfectly fine with me.If I could get stats that would help.Also its storming, so if I don't respond the power went out and I will be back asap.Have a few scavenge for foodName a leader?Have the rest improve settlement
>>31771645Right, stats. Population: 50 adults, 17 childrenFood: High (families brought food when you gathered. The settlement is ragtag but existent, with some work already done. You have some self-sufficiency)Architecture: You've taken up residence in some caves, but most of them are a little too short for your likingWeapons&Armor: No armor. Fists squash things nicely, tree trunks work too.Tech: Lacking. Essentially stone age.Defenses: None.Jotunn, one of the biggest Frost Giants and the mastermind behind the settlement arises and begins dictating orders. 10 adults walk off in different directions with small boulders, ready to smash their prey. The rest begin fortifying the caves with loose stone in the fronts while the children play around them.Defenses: Pathetic
>>31771911picture of DEFINITELY JOTUNN.
>>31771911Cool if we are starting lets.(C) try to make some tree clubs. Rock + tree = Fun
Eh, right, options againA. Scavenge for food.B. Try to improve settlement.C. Try to improve weapons&armor.D. Try to improve technology.E. Your Suggestion
>>31771993This, half make tree clubsHalf try to make living quarters more comfortable/more defense able
>>31771911We need stone tools. After that, we can work on proper fortifications.Heighten the caves, build non-cave houses, make spears.
>>31772030This works, also we are waiting on scouts to return from searching for foodAlso, where do I put the name to have it in the ID? I'm somewhat new to /tg
>>31772082put it in the name tab? Above the subject and email tabs?
>>31771993will answer this>>31771995C. One of the not-so-bright members of the newfound clan happily walks back into the camp, eager to show off his "prey": a tree trunk with a small boulder thoroughly lodged in it. Jotunn, not a fan of incompetency, uses the club to smack the dimwit upside the head. He hits a bit too hard, however, and knocks the poor fool right out.Noting the usefulness of this, Jotunn decides to speed the process of "modernizing" and orders the clan members to utilize stone in their work. Population: 50 adults, 17 childrenFood: HighArchitecture: CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone ClubsTech: Stone toolsDefenses: Pathetic
>>31772115Never look up there heh. I could tell the box was bigger though.>>31772126Also we have scouts that haven't returned
>>31772126>Heighten the caves, build non-cave houses, make spears.Next in line is walls? After that, it's a toss-up between farms/husbandries or mines/furnaces
>>31772030B. Disaster! A family was trying to expand their cave quarters by chipping away at the ceiling when the whole damn thing collapsed on them! The settlement grieves and begins expanding their caves downward instead.Population: 48 adults, 16 childrenFood: HighArchitecture: CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone ClubsTech: Stone toolsDefenses: Pathetic
>>31772237I remember the scouts. I'm just trying to figure out how much time should pass between events. Scouts should be back shortly, and possible with a surprise...
>>31772250I believe now we wanted to do scouting to get the lay of the land.(E) Scouting. (10 people)If we can break it up(D) Research better building for caves.
>>31772280Sorry, not trying to be difficult.
>>31772305E. The rest of the hunters return (rather successfully), and in an animal skin bag that one of them carries Jotunn sees squirming. The hunters deposit their food in one of the cooler caves and return to dump out 3 terrified dwarves in front of you. "They were trespassing" explains one of the frost giants.The DwarvesB1: Free themB2: Enslave themB3: Interrogate themB4: Other (Specify)___________________________A. Scavenge for food.B. Try to improve settlement.C. Try to improve weapons&armor.D. Try to improve technology.E. Your Suggestion_________________________________Population: 48 adults, 16 childrenFood: AbundanceArchitecture: Improved CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone ClubsTech: Stone toolsDefenses: Pathetic>>31772341Don't worry about it.
>>31772483(B3) Hello neighbors, What brings you to our woods?
>>31772483Interrogate then (possibly)enslave. Have them teach us all their tech, etc and then (possibly)we will force them to mine for us.B. Improve settlement, name a leader, maybe pray to a God?
how long should I be waiting for people to vote?
>>31772483O yeah. I guess I vote we (B) build farms first then walls.>>31772637I say a few minutes depending on your style and the amount of people seem to be active. if it's vote based 5 to 10 range.
>>31772250I'll be honest here: I expected that. There was no other way for them to find out.They can study the fine art of tunnel supports and frames.>>31772483Dwarves>InterrogateActions>Next in line is walls? After that, it's a toss-up between farms/husbandries or mines/furnaces
>>31772637I would try to do 5, 10 max to keep the flow
>>31772835Fair, Flow means a lot it seems.
B3. Jotunn orders some food brought to the dwarves and squats down to come closer to their eye level. Though the dwarves are terrified, they are also quite livid at having been manhandled. Nevertheless, Jotunn's calm demeanor and his rebuke of the head scout Ymir settled the dwarves enough to speak of a Dwarven settlement a days journey up the river, next to a nearby mountain.B. Frost Giants aren't idiots, and their technological backwardness had been a matter of preference and tradition. Nevertheless, in these trying times the Frost Giants were willing to do what was necessary to preserve their lands. The Giants took a break from expanding the caves and began clearing lands for farms.The DwarvesB1: Free themB2: Enslave themB4: Other (Specify)___________________________A. Scavenge for food.B. Try to improve settlement.C. Try to improve weapons&armor.D. Try to improve technology.E. Your Suggestion_________________________________Population: 48 adults, 16 childrenFood: HighArchitecture: Improved CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone ClubsTech: Stone toolsDefenses: Pathetic
>>31773009I'm split on attempting to be friends with them or enslave them.Have scouts search the caves for ore while some of the others construct a forge.
>>31773082If we are tree lovers let enslave or take out. Other wise I'm fine with trying. Maybe we can get some nice metal clubs.>>31773009(B4) Would your kind be willing to trade or team up in some way?(B) Wall time.
>>31773009Walls and Mines
>>31773082>>31773155B4: The dwarves, aware that they could easily become dwarf pancakes if they get too angry, temper the scorn in their voice when they discuss trade with you. "What have you to trade with us, anyway? You have no economy! What wer-" the lead dwarf bites his lip as his eyes spot a glint in the makeshift wall. "Is that.... emerald?"B. The meager cave walls are knocked down and reconstructed. Some logs are added to the rubble, making the walls slightlier sturdierE. Noting the dwarves change in attitude after spotting the mineral, Jotunn orders scouts be sent into the deep tunnels to find more mineral deposits.The DwarvesB1: Free themB2: Enslave themB3: Negotiate tradeB4: Other (Specify)___________________________A. Scavenge for food.B. Try to improve settlement.C. Try to improve weapons&armor.D. Try to improve technology.E. Your Suggestion_________________________________Population: 48 adults, 16 childrenFood: AbundanceArchitecture: Improved CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone ClubsTech: Stone toolsDefenses: Meagre
>>31773481>Food: Highmy bad.how do you plan on mining when you're still banging rocks together
>>31773508We are giants, I'm sure we can manage to make some rubble>>31773481Continue to negotiate with them. Have them assist in building a forge.Start mining the emerald while we wait for the scouts to return.
>>31773508I had assumed stone tools included picks.We should probably make some wooden carts, work on SHARP stone tools, tunnel design, and wooden supports.That should be it for mines. We can work out furnaces and forges later.Do we really need to trade now, though? Tech is what we mostly need.
>>31773508Stone on stone action and now trade metal for emerald.>>31773481(B3) Why yes it is. You wouldn't happen to be willing to give us some better tools and weapons for it would you?... (D) yeah improve our stone tools for mining.
>>31773610I say if they do have metal and what not. Lets get better tools and other nicknacks from them. As well as getting a early friend. Could help to have them around.
B3. An offer is extended to the dwarves: precious metal for technological knowhow and some assistance around the settlement. Given that the dwarves woke up this morning without no intention of negotiation with motherfucking FROST GIANTS, they're not too keen on the offer—however, the dwarves are also quite greedy, and so propose an offer: The dwarves return to their families and send a proper expedition later to establish trade.D. The equipment that was on the dwarves has been studied by your more intelligent FGs, and by imitating the style your tools gain some efficency.The DwarvesB1: Accept offer and free themB2: Reject offer and enslave them___________________________A. Scavenge for food.B. Try to improve settlement.C. Try to improve weapons&armor.D. Try to improve technology.E. Your Suggestion_________________________________Population: 48 adults, 16 childrenFood: HighArchitecture: Improved CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone Clubs and Brass testiclesTech: Improved Stone toolsDefenses: Meagre
>>31773771am I going too easy on you guys? Should I throw some curveballs? We spent nearly an hour on the dwarves.
Rolled 66>>31773810Up to you. But it's good to have a warm then start throwing some pain here and there. Would you like us to roll actions and use the chance dice as a way of throwing things at us?>>31773771I say go with it >B1 But maybe follow them ... dam it i think we would be to tall for that.(E) Train a bit with throwing rocks and using the clubs for team combat.
>>31773771Nice pali first of allI'm thinking we should enslave those chumps and show them whose boss. Atleast for short time. maybe if they change their attitude they can go home.Start mining, get an area ready to store ore for the forge when it is completed. Hopefully the scouts will return with good news.Train with throwing rocks and with clubs is a good idea too. Maybe stockpile some throwing rocks at strategic places around camp.
>>31773771>B1: Accept offer and free themWe should probably make some wooden carts, work on SHARP stone tools, tunnel design, and wooden supports.That should be it for mines. We can work out furnaces and forges later.>>31773810well I HAVE been suggesting walls in preparation for what's to come.The dwarves don't really matter much right now, unless we decide to go to war.
>>31773938Keep in mind, you're Frost Giants. Standing over a burning furnace is not your idea of a good time. I've been toying with giving you a mage so you can have specialized forges
>>31774034Again, that's why we should leave furnaces for another time.
B1. The offer is accepted, and teh dwarves leave with some haste.B/E The entire settlement is mobilized to expand storage and brush up on combat skills. Jotunn knows better than to freely trust a dwarf. The caves are further improved with supports and tunnels within the mountain are carefully widened. This effort gives the frost giants quite an appetite and quite a bit of food gets eaten in an impromptu feast.The scouts have not returnedA. Scavenge for food.B. Try to improve settlement.C. Try to improve weapons&armor.D. Try to improve technology.E. Your Suggestion_________________________________Population: 48 adults, 16 childrenFood: MediumArchitecture: Sturdy CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone ClubsTech: Improved Stone toolsDefenses: Meagre
Rolled 4>>31774226(E) Go look for the scouts and some food.
Rolled 26>>31774226Mine and improve defense (wall), stockpile throwing boulders/practice with them
>>31774226Walls, Houses, Carts, Mining Tools, FarmsNext turn Watchtowers and Scouting the scouts
Rolled 33>>31774358Fair. I was thinking we get some food built back up. We go threw it fast.
B. The settlement is a storm of activity. More timber is felled, more boulders are added to the makeshift wall, fortifications are raised.Suddenly, screaming is heard from deep inside the caves.
>>31774461>getting ahead of myselfPopulation: 48 adults, 16 childrenFood: MediumArchitecture: Sturdy, spacious caves and some log houses.Weapons&Armor: Stone ClubsTech: Improved Stone toolsDefenses: Minimal
Rolled 87>>31774528If we don't have much room for the clubs lets keep a few for rams. I'm thinking we mainly use rocks to throw and hit with.But other wise lets check out our caves.
Warriors rush to the source of the screaming and steel themselves for possible combat.
>>31774528That should be enough defenses.Have 1 group search for the scouts, the other check out the caves. Spears maybe in order here.
Rolled 66>>31774633high is good for FGs>>31774634I'm going to pretend I didn't rush this post and equip the FGs with spears
>>31774675Oh god, flaming spiders.We're gonna diplomace and mate for frost spiders and Flame Giants, aren't we?Although to be honest, having a race of fire elemental creatures handle the furnaces is actually logical...
Rolled 83>>31774634Yea, agree with this
>>31774675... O god. I hope someone has frost magic, IF we are fighting the image.>>31774739That would be cool to have spider forgers.
It probably is about time we delve into some frost magic
>>31774739I'm actually not up to speed on FG relations to other races. Can they tame the flaming fuckers?A wave of flame falls upon the Frost giants as the arachnids impale themselves on stone spears. The fighting is intense, but brief—only a few seconds pass before the surviving spiders flee. 4 Giants perished in the heat.The spidersC1: Pursue?C2: Fall back and tend to the wounded(typical choices food/settlement/etc)Population: 48 adults, 16 childrenFood: MediumArchitecture: Sturdy CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone ClubsTech: Improved Stone toolsDefenses: Meagre
>>31774827>C2: Fall back and tend to the woundedTrap the caves to capture them next timeBuild watchtowers, find the scouts
Rolled 53>>31774827I'm up for following to see what he will have to deal with and fall back if it's bad. >>31774858I will back this plan, Trapping sounds good.
Rolled 57>>31774827>>31774858This, also have the smarter giants study frost magic.How long till the children are grown? They have been kids the whole time. Also maybe we should breed soon
Rolled 5>>31774912The kids are magical they will never age.
>>31774912how do i implement time into this halp meC2: The wounded are gathered and barricades are erected. Before the barricades are finished, however, a child of one of the missing scouts sneaks out and disappears into the tunnels.B. More fortifications are built, with the dead warriors being built into the foundations. In the midst of a funeral rite, one of the buildings suddenly freezes over. The more intelligent FGs begin to study this phenomena, but progress is stymied by lack of an alphabet.Population: 44 adults, 16 childrenWounded and Missing: 10 wounded, 4 scouts missing, 1 child missingFood: MediumArchitecture: Sturdy CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone WeaponsTech: Improved Stone toolsDefenses: Meagre
>>31775219if you didn't know how, don't bother with children, just have a single population stat.wait, barricades? weren't we making traps?
>>31775280my beginning fluff said families, and families have children. I s'pose I could just drop it and randomly replenish some numbers every now and then.I though people wanted fortifications in the tunnel to prevent any surprise spider dickings. Traps are on the to-do.
>>31775324nah, if there are no surprise spiders, we can't get surprise TRAPPED spiders.I mean, personally I'd do the traps first and just not make fortifications, but I'll bet the others aren't as trap-crazy as me.
Rolled 98>>31775219Work on alphabet/frost magicWill also vote with Crog, whatever he goes with>>31775219Just do it by rounds, the better breeding, less rounds it takes.Good stuff DM, especially for your first time.I wish I could stay but I gotta get some sleep. Take it easy
>>31775324on that note, one more update and I'm off to bed. 3:20 am in the morning and I need to keep applying for jobs.
>>31775366the Civ sheet near the top of the thread mentions animal companions for Giants... maybe I can work that in.
Rolled 23>>31775219Ba, We need not letters only feelings. The father of cold will guide us. >>31775324I could work. The kids are still there just not something we can use. Well make we could make a school for them.>>31775366Trap-crazy, Now all I can think about is Scooby-Doo. Well the new one where Fred is all trap happy with stuff.
Rolled 64>>31775446Dam my spelling in this post. I need to sleep, Night people.O yeah, Any clue when you>>31775430 would like to run next ?
Final updateTechnology and traps: While the wise ones devise a system to retain knowledge in the stone, traps are constructed and placed all throughout the deep tunnels. During this, a charred corpse is found—one of the scouts sent for minerals. There is no sign of the other three corpses or the child.I dunno if you guys want to archive this or something, but I'll be back tomorrow night around 10 pm/11 pm.Population: 44 adults, 16 childrenWounded and Missing: 9 wounded, 3 scouts missing, 1 child missingFood: LowArchitecture: Improved Sturdy CavesWeapons&Armor: Stone WeaponsTech: Improved Stone toolsDefenses: Weak
>>31775532How was that run, guys? c&c and I'll c what I can do to improve.
Rolled 94>>31775532I can do it or you can. Foolz will do a basic one and sup/tg/does a bit more. Will "Frost giants the Beginning" work?
>>31775580That sounds great, anon. Thanks for participating!
>>31775722and I'm gone. gnight all.
Rolled 59And linkhttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31769080/>>31775722No Problem.