You have split your drones and scattered them throughout the area hoping to find valuable resources and food. The main force has been dispatched into the dense jungle to the south of your mountain hive, while the other two groups followed the river to the shore to the west, and the mossy plains to the south of the jungle. The rain makes the way muddy and difficult, but you hope it will be worthwhile.Deep in the jungle your drones discovered another one of the strange bi-peds, gravely injured but still alive, and you have ordered him taken back to the hive. Your drones load up the unconscious creature and the corpse of the predator it had slain and prepair to make their way back.“Broken.” A drone states plainly, starring at its limp leg. The drone was grazed earlier by the bi-ped’s lighting gun, and now the leg is no longer functional, but shows no sign of injury apart from a small burn along the carapace. The drone will be slowed down by the injury, and likely expose the rest to attack. You could leave the drone behind, or even order it to be consumed, or is the worker worth the risk?Miles away your other drones report their findings, and await your command to progress in their investigation. To the west at the shore your drones have found an ocean covered in a strange, orange colored film and to the south a flat plain of moss. Has the Queen it is your will that will determine their actions.
>Last thread http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Current resource reservesNutrients: 152Metals: 25>Upkeep cost Queen – 5First Clutch Worker (20) – 40Thinker – 3Nutrients: 48>IncomeNutrients: 50Net: 2>Hive populationFirst Clutch Workers: 20Thinker: 1>Available research optionsLightning gun – Very slow, potential of failure and destruction of sample deviceAlien biology – medium, studying samples of the predator’s corpse may yield basic understanding of local fauna’s chemical processesBi-ped – Very slow, observation of the alien being may yield insight as to their nature and intentions
>>31608582"Broken." Your drone repeats the thought as it tries in vain to move its leg. It will surly slow down the rest, and may attract predators.>Consume the drone +3 nutrients -1 worker>leave it behind and have it try to return alone>slow down the column to protect the wounded workerIn addition, your other two search parties are awaiting your orders.>investigate the shore>investigate the moss plains
>>31608673Hm...>1 Consume droneIt's a first batch, after all, yes?>Investigate shore next.Also, do we pick research options now? Or no?Nice map also. Helpful
>>31608746yes, first batch, and yes, you can select your research now, but it will not take effect until we get all the drones on the same page. Technically, they are all doing their things around the same time.
>>31608673Awesome. Nice to have you back, QD.>Consume the worker.It's just one worker, a First Clutch at that.>Investigate the shoreSee if the film is useful in any wayHow do we go about research? I'm assuming we can only do one thing at a time for now since we only have 1 thinker?
>>31608582Alien biologyWe need to be able to live in this place before we start dealing with the other visitors.>>31608673>Consume the drone +3 nutrients -1 worker>investigate the shore
>>31608808Ah. Then I wish to study Alien biology then.
>>31608812correct. The tinker will analyze the item you want researched, and will need 1 worker to use as a tool to handle the item.In the future, more thinkers mean faster research, and more things can be researched at once.
>>31608808>>31608812Consider that I also vote for alien biology. We'll probably want to the lightning gun next, to further offensive/defensive capabilities.
>>31608860How much to new thinkers cost?
>>31608874We'll need to find a source of metals and other things to fashion into new guns. I doubt we can make space lasers out of dirt and fungus even with all the research in the world.
>>31608884Worker – 5 nutrients to lay egg 2 upkeep per day, 2 days to hatch.Warrior – 10 nutrients to lay egg 5 upkeep per day, 4 days to hatch.Thinker – 6 nutrients to lay egg 3 upkeep per day, 3 days to hatch.Sorry, I had meant to add that to the pastebin. Which I also forgot to post. I kinda rushed home after Easter dinner.
>>31608673>Consume the worker +3 nutrients, -1 worker>investigate the shorewriting.
>>31608929>ThinkerHm...that should be one priority we have next. Research is super important.
>>31608673Consume the drone is the best optionInvestigate the shoreResearch the lighting gunHas there been any discussion on what kinda of queen were going to be?
>>31608962Might want to rush a Warrior. If it can pull down more than 5 nutrients per day by hunting, then it's worth it.
>>31608993At least one, yes.
>>31608582Research alien biology.Hatch 2 warriors.Hatch 2 thinkers.
>>31608988Not peaceful. No diplomacy.
>>31608962We already have a Thinker. If anons wanted to make 1 or two more I'd be find with that (I want to find a way to get more yield out of our fungal-jelly thing...or generally improve our nutrient income). I tend to side with this anon (>>31608993) that warriors are probably a better investment at this point though. As well as 'updating' our workers, so to speak.
>>31609100We can recycle 10 workers and hatch 10 more. The second wave will be more useful.
>>31609100Indeed. I'd like at least one warrior, 2-4 Thinkers, and then focus on drones for resource gathering.Sound good?
>>31608673"Worker help hive!" the worker exclaims with glee, as it drops to the ground, at peace with its purpose. Its brothers assemble around it and with their claws quickly dismantle the worker, devouring it entirely.The ocean stretches far into the horizon, much farther than your drones can see with the rain impeding their vision. A worker walks up to the thick film slowly, and with an outstretched claw pokes the substance. It is surprisingly resilient. With a more forceful jab the film is punctured and a thick brown-red ooze bubbles up from the orange growth. Satisfied of the safety, your workers begin taking samples in the shallow water, and discover the film is nearly two inches thick in some places, and contains a thick membrane of syrupy juice. Under the membrane tendrils of dark green strands stretch deeper into the water, like roots.>Take samples back to the hive>eat some of the samples>write in
>>31609152Have one of them eat some of the samples, and take samples back to the hive regardless of the results. Poisons are just as useful as food.
>>31609123>>31609139I'd approve. 2 warriors though, they're expensive but I feel like 2 warriors supplemented by workers should be able to take down any threats we'll face in the immediate future. Also, dat redundancy.
>>31609152>Have one drone sample the substance>If good, bring some back to the hive for further study.
>>31609152>Take samples back to the hive>eat some of the samplesynotboth.jpg
Anyone think we should dam up the stream so it doesn't leave our mountain (and we can develop reservoirs of the nutrient-water)? If I were a curious organism and I noticed a red-tinged stream (like we did when we came here), I would follow it to its source. Which is where we've made our home.
>>31609152>Eat the film>Eat the juice>Eat the roots
>>31609291Juice first. The lump in the cave had edible juice but the lump itself was inedible
>>31609291Porque no los tres?But yeah, this guy: >>31609329 Juice, roots, film.
>>31609291>juiceWe've had good experience with that.
>>31609329It is probably the exact same substance.
>>31609291Juice first. If the juice is toxic, there's no way in hell we're going to be able to test the other two now since they'll get covered in juice during extraction and we have no way to clean them on site.If the juice is poison, we'll just have to grab samples of the other two and test them later.
>>31609359But the water in the stream was red, and this water is brownish. The fungal masses producing both of these are very different as well.
QD, next time you probably want to post the pastebin in your OP, makes it easier for us to find.
>>31609291Have 3 drones eat them all. Don't you want to be sure of their effects? Drones are so expendable. It is worth sacrificing them to learn even the smallest thing about something.
>>31609395If all three drones eat all three, then we have no one to bring samples back.
>>31609395Drones are a resource we need to carefully marshall until we reach the mid triple digits.
>>31609367This unit of the collective makes good points. I concur with it.>>31609421I think we assigned 5 drones to each scouting group.
>>31609291Your drone scoops up a lump of the thick syrup and quickly swallows it. It tastes sweet, and slightly spicy. After a short while you sense no ill effects and command another drone to do the same with the roots. They are stringy and salty, and seem to hold no nutrition at all, likely they serve as anchors for the film, or as a way to collect food in the water. You command a third to eat the film itself, and the worker begins to hack and wheeze as the surprisingly dry substance breaks into powder in its mouth. You wait a short while, but the worker reports nothing abnormal.Something is off about it though. You are unsure as to what, but the thoughts from the worker feel strange, as if they are on a delay.
>>31609505Dropped your trip?But: great, a narcotic.
>>31609505>DelayHm...drug of some sort, perhaps. We should take a sample to a thinker to look it over, maybe?Either way, we have found a nice source of nutrients.
>>31609530this is me>>31609530You are uncertain. The worker detects nothing wrong, but you feel its senses distorted, and your control diluted.
>>31609580Very good, bring back samples of all 3. The powder sounds like it will make an excellent stiptic powder.
>>31609567>Hm...drug of some sort, perhaps.How about we take a sample, present it to the biped once we begin to figure out how to communicate to it.
>>31609505They won't be eating any more of that.
>>31609505Your drones gather the samples, pinching them into the crevices under their blades.Meanwhile, on the mossy plains your last 5 drones spot a number of objects in the misty rain. They seem very large, and your drones can feel their lumbering footsteps even from here, but the plains are open and there is no place for them to hide. You know there are air born predators in this area, if such a creature were to attack you doubt your drones would find cover in time.>move in and investigate, it is worth the risk>follow the treeline and try to find a vantage point that is not in the open>return to the hive, we can search the area at a later time>other
>>31609738>return to the hive, we can search the area at a later time
>>31609738>>return to the hive, we can search the area at a later timeHow large is "very large"? What's the scale in relation to the captured biped?
>>31609738Hm...Follow the tree lines. Would provide a way better scouting territory.
>>31609738Return to the hive, we can search the area later with superior drones and some warriors.
>>31609804It is difficult to say at this distance, but it must be many times its size. By the trembling of the ground from their movement, your thinker estimates nearly ten feet in height.
>>31609738You decide they are far enough from home, and recall them back to the hive. They begin the trek around the jungle, and by the time they reach the shore your drones have finished collecting their samples. Your drones reach the hive entrance soon enough and present their findings to you and the thinker, placing them in separate locations to be analyzed in more detail.New research optionsStudy samples - medium, may offer new source of food, or offer warning of toxic chemicals>switch research>continue researchYou look upon the bi-ped's broken form. Now that it is in your hive and away from the spores, it appears to be breathing more regularly. Its legs appear damaged, but the bleeding has stopped for the most part, and pieces of its suit have become swollen and rigid around the areas of the most critical damage. What will you do with it?>kill it>carve out a cell to hold it>stick it to the wall with your workers' saliva>do not restrain it>other
>>31610150>stick it to the wall with your workers' saliva>>31610150>continue researchWe will research it later. We should hatch 3 thinkers and 3 warriors.
>>31610150>Switch research: Study Samples>Carve out a cell to hold it.Station 1 worker by the cell. Of course its weapons has been removed, right?Consume 10 first-gen workers, hatch 10 workers, 2 thinkers, and 2 extra-heavy/fighty warriors. Assign 9 (one's guarding the human) to create reservoirs for the Nutrient-water to flow into, and try to dam its flow out of the mountain.
>>31610150>stick it to the wall with your workers' saliva>continue research
>>31610150>Continue researchHuman first, then new foods.>HumanCurious. Would keeping him alive make research easier? Or is there no reason not to keep it alive?Also>Stick to walls of hiveGod that shit is so alien. I love it.
>>31610241of course. The bi-ped's lightning gun has been taken away for later research.You have 19 workers and 1 thinker available and 155 nutrients.
>>31610150>>stick it to the wall with your workers' salivaIt's injured, it won't have the strength to escape the hold.Also, that suit sounds like it's got some fancy damage-reactive protection going on. We can strip it from him and see how it works. Maybe if we evolve it on our drones, it'll provide them with temporary injury negation.
We need to hatch thinkers so we can just research all of this at once.
>>31610150>continue research>carve out a cell to hold itThe cell can be used for other things later as wellLet's hatch>>31610206, because >>31610241is a bit much, we won't be able to sustain them.
Let's hold off on hatching anything before we make sure new food is safe.
>>31610345We need nutrient income to support the thinkers or they'll all just starve at the start f the next cycle.
>>31610392We will have enough. We have 150 in reserves.
>>31610401He means sustaining. We don't have the income to support researchers for too long. Our bank is all we have.
>>31610150You order your workers to take the bi-ped and, grinding up several mouth-fulls of stone, quickly encase the creature's limbs and torso, embedding it in a rock-hard cocoon attached to the wall of your cave. It may still take some time for it to wake, but you will figure out what to do with it when the time comes. For now, you must grow your numbers.19 workers are idle. Thinker bonus lost due to research.155 nutrients available, net income 2What kinds of drones do you wish to create, and how will you delegate work to your current workers?Your hive is currently little more than the single cave of your throne room, with three caves leading out and to the mountain side.
>>31610300Multiple thinkers = multiple research projects going on?I say we birth at least one more thinker and some workers to help the thinkers with research.Set a thinker to examine local flora, then we get a farm going on and plenty of nutrition to lay shittons of eggs for anything we desire.Alternatively, we research the lightning gun fully, to the point we can create biological versions of it, and we hatch some augmented warriors.Then we eat roasted millipedes year-round.
>>31610474I don't think we will able to evolve biological versions of conventional technology. To build things like the lightning gun we will need industry and metals.
>>31610453>WorkersHead out to search anything we have yet to search with our workers. New food sources, especially.>New workers to createNone, YET. I want us to have a healthy income before we make anymore drones.But...Can we eat all our workers, and then remake them without losing anything?Also, let's dig out a section of the cave to be our 'granary' if we need such a thing.
>>31610474Think of each thinker as a little autistic research point, which you can assign to any project independently, or combine them to research more quickly. They can also operate drones on your behalf if you are too far away, or don't want to be bothered with them.
>>31610535Actually, one addendum: Add ONE thinker to our hive
>>31610453Warriors would be nice.We are kind of vulnerable.
>>31610453Create 3 thinkers and 2 warriors.
>>316104532 Thinkers, 2 Warriors.I like this proposal up here for actions: >>31610241
>>31610535eating a drone will give back about 75% of the initial cost to make it. For workers you will get 3 each.
>>31610590Hm. What is the benefit of remaking them? Tougher? Faster? Anything like that? Or do we not have any good mutations yet?
>>31610453Worker – 5 nutrients to lay egg 2 upkeep per day, 2 days to hatch.Warrior – 10 nutrients to lay egg 5 upkeep per day, 4 days to hatch.Thinker – 6 nutrients to lay egg 3 upkeep per day, 3 days to hatch.Send 16 workers out in the forest again. Tell them to look for edible flora and potential game.3 workers keep a lookout in our cave system, one for each entrance.We can birth a few warriors and thinkers in the meantime. We'll consume our first clutch workers later so that we have nutrition for our warriors and future workers. Not sure how many to make just yet.
>>31610608If they die we can recycle them.
>>31610608your current workers are cheap and relatively weak. New workers would be stronger and more effective, and you would be able to alter them prior to laying them.It should also be noted that drones have no upkeep prior to hatching, so if you lay any now, you will only need to feed them upkeep after the incubation period.
Hatch 10 drones. We will consume 10 of the first wave when the second hatches.
>>31610649So, at least laying them is a good idea, because it means we can save a lot of time?Nice...I like it. Let's do that.Also OP, I don't think we'll agree. Perhaps call a vote for the most logical choices?
>>31610588Seconding this for consensus.
>>31610453It seems we have a few more focused ideas>replace all workers (lay 20 workers, eat the others when they hatch)>replace some (how many)>lay 1 thinker>lay warriors (how many)
>>31610723>replace all workers (lay 20 workers, eat the others when they hatch)>lay 2 thinkers>lay 2 warriors
>>31610588>2 Thinkers, 2 Warriors.That's a total cost of 30 nutrients over three days for the two thinkers and 60 nutrients over four days for the two warriors. At a combined total cost of 90 over four days, it'll significantly eat into our 150 nutrient reserve, dropping it down to 60.If we were to spend ninety nutrients for workers, we get 10 more workers over two days and use them to more quickly enhance our nutrient collection process, build out the hive and create some basic camouflage/defensive structures.>>31610584That would be an expenditure of an additional fifteen, which we could use for one more worker. It might be good to have another thinker to double our research capacity.Basically, what I'm saying it, let's think about getting the most bang for our buck. Instead of focusing on specialized units now, let's build up our resource intake and infrastructure over fifty percent more quickly by adding ten workers.
>>31610723>Lay one thinker>Lay one Warrior>Replace 10 Workers. Have this half stay home to help around the hive, and scout, while the rest head out for deep scouting (suicide mission basically)
>>31610723How about a vote for work distribution, too?>>31610746Pretty much this.
>>31610723>replace all workers (lay 20 workers, eat the others when they hatch)>lay 1 thinker>lay 5 warriors
>>31610723>>replace all workers (lay 20 workers, eat the others when they hatch)This is not doable.We have 155 nutrients. If we lay them all twenty, we'd spend 200 nutrients, knocking us down to -45. If we can go below zero, we would recoup 57 back by eating our current workers, leaving us at 12 nutrients. Then we'd have to pay upkeep on the workers that just hatched, knocking us down by 80 nutrient to -68.We'd be roundly fucked.
>>31610763I'm sorry, but I don't understand your math.20 nutrients for the 2 Warriors, in 4 days they hatch and start costing 10 nutrients per day.12 nutrients for the 2 thinkers, and in 3 days they start costing 6 a day.20 workers will cost 100 nutrients, then 40 a day in two days. However, we'll get 57 nutrients from consuming our 19 first-gen workers.
>>31610763>>31610820In these posts, people don't know how into math.
>>31610826I thought we paid upkeep starting after the eggs were laid, before they hatched to reflect incubation, nutrient intake by larval state drones. That kinda thing.
>>31610820Did you make sure that the upkeep from the first clutch is converted into the upkeep for the workers?
>>31610858We pay the immediate cost for laying eggs, then there's a period when they incubate where we pay nothing for them (this has been stated repeatedly), then we pay half the initial cost per-day as upkeep.Only Queens and other very complex bugs (maybe a few specials) have a larval stage.
We have enough. We will send the warriors and our workers to kill those beasts in the plains. They will yield a nice amount.We should send 2 workers north and 2 workers east to scout.
>>31610723>replace 10 workers, hatch in 2 days>lay 1 thinker, hatch in 3 days>lay 1 warrior, hatch in 4 daysIt's looking like this is the consensus, for a cost of 66 nutrients initially, and a rebate of 30 in two days for a total of 36. (this is probably more math than there needs to be, sorry.)This sound right?
>>31610943I thought this got support: >>31610746Or at least replacing all of the workers.Nothing has been decided on so far as actions for the workers while they await death though.
>>31610943I am okay with that, since it was my vote. We can always make more later, I figure.Time to crown a knight
>>31610960Hmm, your right.recycle all workers (100, rebate of 57)lay 2 thinkerslay 2 warriorstotal cost, 75
Newbie here, i want to get into these kind of games; where should i start?
>>31611020Fine by me.I hope we find new food sources soon.
>>31611042Well, reading the archives is the most obvious thing. But you're welcome to join us if you like, anon.We're just chatting about ending the first cycle, I believe.
>>31610960We should have the workers look for food.
>>31611020I approve.>>31611065Of this also.
>>31611020works for me.>>31611042Well you can jump in immediately, though I'd wait until QD's next post. I'd recommend reading the archive while you wait for the next update
>>31611042>where should i start?The archives.
>>31611020Your workers will continue their duties until the new workers are born, what work distribution would you like?>building (what and with what materials)>hunting (where)>carving out the hive (describe)>guard duty>other>>31611042Do you mean quests? The archives in the OP (original post) will catch you up to speed, and you are more than welcome here.
>>31611099>BuildingHollow out a cave for storage. This will become important eventually. Is there anything in particular we may need?>HuntingIn the mushroom forests. Search for weaker prey they can leap upon.>Guard dutyJust a hand full to keep a look out. 2 or 3
>>31611042Go to suptg, search the tag "hivemind" to find all the previous quests.There's also another series of quests under the "hivemind" tag that I frequent. They're very good, but they're very much the 'hardmode' of /tg/ civ quests and probably don't make good beginner fare.
>>31611133I approve.3 on guard duty (1 for each entrance), split the work evenly between the remainder.Let's build a reservoir for the stream. I'm sure our workers aren't drinking constantly, so we're likely missing a ton of possible nutrients right on our doorstep.
>>31611133You can carve out any room you wish. Having different places to store items, house drones, and place infrastructure (which you can design as a special drone) such as air filters, organic doorways, or anything else you think you may need.>3 on guard dutythat's 16 to spair
>>31611229So, 8 hunting and 4 building a storage room and 4 building a reservoir.
>>31611323>4 building a reservoirThese caves have more rivers in them than just the one in our throne room. We should devote some effort towards channeling all the different rivers into the reservoir.
>>31611229Ah I see...hm...Well, I am not sure why we'd need anything except an organic doorway right now. So maybe build that out of rock paste/fungus?I leave it up to you.Split the 16 between hunting and assisting in building a storage place.
>>31611229>3 on guard duty>8 will dig a reservoir>8 remain idleA reservoir will likely not offer a sizable increase in nutrient income, but will offer a more stable source of water in the event of drought. The jelly is the main source of the nutrients, while the water is, well, watered down.
>>31611323>>31611354>>31611363>3 guard>8 hunting>4 building a storage silo>4 build a reservoirroll for hunting and building please.
>>31611364>It would help in case of a droughtI can dig it. We need water to survive, correct?But I suggest 4 build a resevoir, 4 build the storage room, and the rest swarm hunt stuff.
Rolled 89>>316114081d100 or do you want 2d100?
>>31611229Organic doorways can also have some eyes on them, allowing us to keep watch on the outside like they're cameras. We could even give the doors camouflage, to keep our nest better hidden.>>31611364Instead of a reservoir, we could always just create honeypots. We live on a planet that constantly goes from hot to cold, right? Droughts can easily happen, and we'll be prepared with honeypots keeping our nutrition from expiring.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_ant
>>31611427rolling for each, best of 3d100 for hunting and both projects, so 9 more, you can roll 3 at once if you want.
Rolled 6, 44, 83 = 133>>31611518
Rolled 39, 24, 57 = 120>>31611518
Rolled 66, 64, 26 = 156>>31611518Ah. If you want something other than the standard 1d100, you really need to specify in the roll prompt.>>31611408
Rolled 95, 98, 93 = 286>>31611518
>>31611484yes indeed, of course the more bells and whistles you put on something the more expensive it gets.
Rolled 98, 100, 30 = 228>>31611518
>>31611569THE DICE GODS ANSWERED MY PRAYERS! PRAISE THE RABBIT GOD!
>>31611559I know, i'm terrible at that.writing
>>31611569>>31611593>dem rolls>both sets miss the cut offWhy, cruel dicegods.
>>31611610awww they did. Well at least they look awesome
>>31611572If we just make the doors more like easily movable cartilage flaps that can turn rigid to prevent access/simulate rock, along with a basic brain to recognize living beings and possibly advanced vision and antennae, it won't have much of an upkeep at all since it doesn't move or produce anything, although it might cost a bit to lay the egg.
>>31611408Your drones receive their commands and embark on their duties. They split up into teams as you begin your work. Your eggs are placed around you on the soft pile of mold, each carefully placed with love and care as you manage your growing hives activities.It is not long before your guest awakens. The creature twitches in the cocoon, but to no avail. It whips its head around, wide-eyed and shaking with what you suspect is a fight-or-flight response. It seems to have trouble seeing in the dim light, and it takes some time to notice you, at which point it begins to scream. Your head shifts to meet its gaze, your face engulfing its field of vision. You are unsure if the creature knows you are sentient, but it is clearly frightened, how do you proceed?>attempt to communicate with it (how)>silently watch it, it may yield some small insight at least>other
>>31611897>attempt to communicate with it (how)make marks in the ground.like | (some mark here) |then point to ||Try and see if they understand basic concepts of math||
Rolled 80>>31611897Hm...what are the limits of our vocal chords?Do we have any method of speaking at all? Or just soothing clicks and whistles?If not, then do our best soothing tone of voice (I think it'd be amusing to try and calm it this way) and observe.In the mean time, gesture "Shhh..." to it too.
>>31611897Let's examine it's face to learn more on how it works.
>>31611964you do not have vocal chords, you communicate through telepathy, but this creature does not seem to have the biology to receive your thoughts.You can make chittering sounds with your mandibles, or perhaps a hissing sound if you tried, but you have never given it much thought before now. It seems like such an inefficient way to communicate to you.
>>31611897Stuff it with jelly. It needs to be kept alive for study.
>>31611897Well, we've bothered to keep it alive. Maybe see if it wants some water? Do we even have anything we could give it water in? I wonder if the red water is poisonous to them. Maybe offer red and clear to see what it goes for...Also, any way you guys can think of to gesture "please shut the fuck up"? Let's put our [whatever's analogous to a finger] in front of our mouth as a shushing motion. These things make noise with their mouth parts, maybe it'll get it.
>>31612081I can agree. Whatever this thing is, let's shut it up.
>>31611897>try to give it water>tell it to shut it's face hole before it busts a gut
>>31612066we should use it as a test subject, feed it anything that we are unsure about and see what happens. It's alive so we might as well use that for our benefit
>>31612174We have yet to even establish if it will die from ingesting our main food source.These things also seem unable to deal with the spore-laden atmosphere. They seem like poor test subjects, really. What's the point in testing things on them if they die from things we can thrive in?
>>31612167Give it water.
>>31612167The creature quickly looses its breath and begins to gasp, emitting bursts of terror filled whimpers in between coughs. You call for a worker who quickly arrives, in its claws is a small bowl of stone it had carved from the room-to-be it came from, filled with water. You take it and hold it out to the creature's fragile looking face, and watch as it quickly goes from terror to confusion. The creature starts making a strange, rapid cawing sound as air escapes its mouth in short bursts.Eventually it accepts the water, choking on the first gulp as the strange taste hits its senses."Y-you're....intelligent?"You give a courteous bow, officially greeting him into your domain. He starts making the whooping sound again, louder this time."I can't believe it! You understand me?"You give another nod, clicking your mandibles for emphasis."a-and, you're...not going to eat me or anything?"You must admit, you had given it thought. Probably for the best not to mention it though."O-ok, well this is-AGH!" It screams again, only briefly this time, as it shifts its weight. "This is great and all, but... could I get down. I need to get back to the others."How do you respond?
>>31612664If we can some how communicate "would you let me go if you had me in a cell?"
>>31612664>point out its injury
>>31612664Shake your head.
>>31612664Hm..point to it's injury and shake head. Then gesture to the swarm and then gesture to him, implying 'his swarm', and then point to us, as if to ask 'against us?' or no?Just need to make sure if this guy wants a war.
>>31612664Let it down.Draw a rough map in the sand/dirt of the area around us in the dirt and prompt it to locate its home camp. Then point to its eyes then to us, then mimic its screaming. Proceed to convey something in the negative about it going back to its base.Let it down though. Just if it tries to leave the boundary of our hive, have its worker escort (which it will have one of at all times) prevent him from going further.
We might try to strive for symbiosis, eventually.
>>31612664"Look, my name is Ryan Lee, Senior Spaceman of the UIS Clarke, we were..." It grows silent as you shift your head across the room to face the lightning gun resting on the ground, then back again. Its head falls back to rest on the interior of the cocoon as it lets out a whisper under its breath "Shit, shit, look, I didn't know, I thought you were native wild life, I had been attacked, I was separated from my partner, if I knew you were intelligent I never would have..." Its face scrunches up for a moment in, deep in thought. "Y-you didn't see another one of my kind, did you?"You nod, and turn to the corpse of the large creature."Oh... I see." It grows silent, its head drooped down and away from your gaze.>cut it free>leave it for now>pursue more information>other
>>31613029>pursue more information
>>31613029Cut it free, don't let it leave the mountain though. Demonstrate that wecan eat the jelly.Give it a worker as an assistant, and if possible demonstrate that we only intend tto keep him for a short time, so his associates won't be able to discount his story of us being peaceful.it'll also allow us to develop our military such that we can crushthem if necessary.
>>31613029>Pursue more infoLet's see if we can't get him to talk more about his hive. They are most intriguing creatures, after all. Or perhaps learn if he is going to tell them about us.
>>31613029>pursue more informationalso secondind this >>31613175
>>31613029>pursue more informationDraw a little stick biped and a little stick queen and then off to the side somewhere draw a little stick biped herd and then tilt our head inquisitively. Try to get it to tell us where its hive is.
>>31613029did we at least remember to give some of our new children the ability to speak the language of these ugly bipeds? this was heavily discussed last thread but not mentioned when you laid the eggsalso, cut it down, its legs are broken and it can likely be convinced to not make the suicidal trip... and it doesn't know where it is, and we can follow it to its hive and locate it (lucky they don't have telepathy) if it somehow does find its way back, but honestly it will most likely just sit here due to its injury.as for communication. we need to get some math symbols down, then indicate a time unit, then do a countdown to convince it to wait a few days (hopefully it is not too dumb to do basic math)
>>31613331>and we can follow it to its hive and locate itI meant to say "even if it could find its way back)
>>31613331The lightning gun indicates that at least some members ofits race are capable of advanced math. No need to be species-ist here.
>>31613392The lightening gun suggests this is a warrior drone, it is surprisingly intelligent for being so far from its hive...... doh. never mind, we are well aware of the existence of non hive creatures.Are we aware of any non hive sapients though? (from the preloaded history and info we got born with / was on our pod)
>>31613468From what I remember we were amazed at the idea of a creature communicating verbally. So take that how you will
>>31613468The presence of an extensively developed language is indicative of sapience, even if we don't. And even if we haven't contacted other sapient species that aren't hiveminded, we've certainly encountered non-hiveminded normal species so we're aware of the concept.
Where's the Hegemon?
>>31613029You grow closer, your blades unsheathing from your forelimbs. He jerks back in his cocoon and lets out a small yelp and in a swift motion you slice the cocoon open. The bi-ped drops the short distance to the ground, legs buckling under the weight."Ghah! My legs, I think there broken." The creature adjusts a device sewn into the sleeve on its arm and the legs inflate rapidly, then constrict into a form-fitting tube. A small cylinder emerges from the sleeve and is quickly jabbed into the neck. As the strange series of self-repair procedures come to a close it turns to see that you have scrawled a crude map of the forest, with the mountain marked at the top. You point your forelimb to the drawing as you look into the bi-ped's eyes. The message seems clear."Right, you show me yours I show you mine." With a finger it quickly scribbles a circle due east of the jungle. "We have a camp here, not too far from where the life boats from the Clarke came down, but with far fewer predators. We had scouted up into the river not too far from here but we never found any sign of intelligent life. Shows what we know."You chitter your mandibles inquisitively."Uh, right, what I was saying before. We were on a patrol, surveying new systems for colonization. We were ambushed by a fleet of apples and...well I doubt you would have met them. In any case, they have been fighting with the Union, that would be us, for a while now. Our ship was destroyed and our life boats fell here."An interesting story."Oh!, I almost forgot, I'm technically not allowed to handle first contact, but the tech guys give us all these things to hand out to new species." With a flick of the wrist a small tablet emerges from a sleeve and is handed to you.>>31613468>>31613518Non-networked creatures are known to you, and it is assumed that sapient life is possible in the same manner, but this is the first time such life has been encountered by your kind as far as you are aware.
>>31613658>take the device>have a worker take the device>save the device for the thinker later>other
>>31613677>have a worker take the device>save the device for the thinker later
>>31613677>Have thinker take device for later. It is clearly important data if it's on a chip.So these guys are actively going out and seeking for lifeforms like us...interesting...Well, we would tell him we crash landed here too, but we can't really speak.See if he has any...'questions' for us now.
>>31613677Have a worker take the device.Scribble the weird film and the huge sounding creatures onto the map, make inquisitive gestures.
>>31613677Have a worker take it, then let the thinker assume control of the worker.Don't want this to end up being a bomb or something. Smells suspiciously like a bomb to me, and thesecreatures obviously have a predisposition to violence.
>>31613734>Well, we would tell him we crash landed here too, but we can't really speak.not yeton the one hand, i want to withhold that info and make it think we are native, on the other hand their thinkers will likely figure it out.Their inability to contact their kind is a boon to us. we can get info but not vice versa. we can determine whether an alliance is better after learning more about their enemy. Or if we want to kill them all and study whatever tech they have here
>>31613593heh>>31613331a vocalization specialization would make a worker much less efficient. A 'diplomat' specialty drone with dedicated organs for producing vocal speech would be relatively cheap, since it would not need much in the way of performance. Essentially you would need to replace the mandibles with a mouth built for verbal speech.
>>31613765>Don't want this to end up being a bomb or something. Smells suspiciously like a bomb to me, and thesecreatures obviously have a predisposition to violence.we could store it deep in the cave system away from other stuff. thinkers study stuff via drone telepathy not direct manipulation
>>31613792in that case, lay one such drone. if the creature insists on leaving, insist it takes it with
>>31613778Very true. But he doesn't need to know of our possible hostility. Not yet.If we figure out something useful comes of their deaths, so be it. But for now, there is little cause to make an enemy when we do not even have a single planet under control.>>31613792>DiplomacyEh. Maybe just call it a 'Talker' drone. Just because we want to speak with him doesn't mean it's peaceful after all.
>>31613792Add one of those to the list of things to be happy. Make it shiny, in all the spectrums we know of, that way no one can be alarmed by being caught by surprise by it.That is to say, make it pretty and mantis shrimp looking.
>>31613819>insist it takes it withby that i mean the egg>>31613821>Eh. Maybe just call it a 'Talker' drone. Just because we want to speak with him doesn't mean it's peaceful after all.oooh... some sort of self destruct mechanism we can trigger?
>>31613852Nice idea, though I am unsure how effective a weapon...
>>31613677>have the worker take itnew propositionCreate and lay a Talker specialty drone.if you you can alter it in any way you like by applying modifications to the mouth (in this case, vocalization) antennae, back, carapace legs and arms.
>>31613890Yes. Communication is useful
>>31613870Bio bomb. although I was thinking of it not as a weapon but as a way to keep our secrets should something try to dissect itthat is, it can start a chain reaction that would dissolve its insides and destroy all genetic and structural data. either intentionally or if killed.OHO! the fungus, the one that was utterly nasty to bite into? it must be a defense mechanism against things eating it, is our control over genetics good enough to replicate whatever it is that it is producing to make our flesh taste foul?It could deter predators (then again, the cost of that is inability to recycle... unless we produce specialist recycling drones that detox)
>>31613849>>31613852I like these. Be sure to include a self-mkill in case they decide to dissect it.
>>31613890do it>>31613920replying to self here, seems like impractical when i think about it. a bomb will risk accidental explosion from an injury (BAD with diplomat), a self dissolving thing would be unnecessarily costly and convoluted. especially with the tech level (both species have FTL)If we want to give it a hidden oomph though we can include a toxin gland
>>31613973>especially with the tech level (both species have FTL)by that i mean they have scanners (we do, accurate enough to detect life on planets in different star systems from where we currently are. as indicated in our first choice of planet)
>>31613973I Like the self-dissolution. It is unlikely to suffer life threatening injuries in service as a diplo drone that weren't meant to kill it. Also, such a gland wouldn't be as difficult to make as you'd think.
Are we going to make the Talker more humanoid-ish for the purposes of not making them all scream and freak out thinking it wants to eat them?Even if we don't we need to make sure to have it observe the bipeds and determine what physical characteristics make them feel non-threatened. Can't make them do what we want if their first thoughts are "OH GOD BUG MONSTER!!!!".Meta as fuck, but big eyes and round heads with fluff/hair on top would go a long way if we can make it not look too much like a creepy doll.
>>31613890A worker breaks off from the never ending line of shifting stone and takes the device. The small tablet lights up immediately as the worker carries it away. To look over properly."Queen! Thing is key! Many numbers, makes sounds and symbols."You look it over through your worker, it appears to hold a series of very basic tests, one involving color coded patterns, another displaying a series of exponential number sequences, and another that seems to test memory. Upon completion the device displays a series of images that seem to represent the bi-peds.HumanUnionMaleFemaleThere is a wealth of data here, but it all seems to be built around social interaction. Data regarding technology or genetic structure is left out.>Speaker drone proposedCarapace: vibrant colored patternsMouth: vocalization organsBack: none (wings can be added, but will decrese the drone's mass and overall health, and increase metabolism, thus increasing cost by a small amount)legs: standard (general, all purpose. nether excels or fails at anything)arms: standard (decent strength and dexterity)blades: standard (extendable sharp bone for self defense)
>>31614155You could add a leg adaptation to fuse the lower limbs to appear as a bi-ped. This would decrease mobility and stability when walking or climbing, however, but may improve initial reactions by other bi-pedal creatures.
>>31614155Whoa, no no no. That would just set off oh soooooooo many uncanny valley as fuck alarms. Let's just go with the mantis shrimp idea.
>>31614155>Make horrible caricature of what a human should look like>It is more scarier to them than our normal form
>>31614156Give it fine manipulators on the claws. These creatures have such appendages, we will likely need some in order to function with them.
>>31614156I'd rather it had hand-like things than bigass sword claws. It's going to have to be around the bipeds, afterall. something to better work their tech if it gets it's "hands" on it would be good.
>>31613938what, like, some explosive chemicals so it explodes acid upon death?like a Xenomorph's acid blood but more bursty?
>>31614156>>31614214Make it two legs, yeah. This can be our social interactive diplomat drone.
>>31613890...do any of our drones fly?a small, defenseless Talker that can just fly, talk, and has antennae out the wazoo for senses would make sense.
>>31614221>>31614228what makes you say that?
>>31614350But flight would make it cost more for not really much benefit.
>>31614323we were flabbergasted by how it is possible for these creatures to walk properly on two legs. it is an exceptionally difficult feat to achieve and we don't know how to do it well. we could probably figure it out with research, but no time. also, i prefer it look at least somewhat like us
>>31613658...well, I was rather expecting more xenophobic hostility here from bipedal colonists.Sounds like that comes later.
>>31614385From the sounds of things, the "apples" are the shits.
>>31614378You're right, I retract my biped suggestion.. As an ambassador unit, it should be welcoming, but still mostly representative of our race.
Oh god, I had an awesome idea! it should be able to produce small beetle like spycam bugs.
>>31614316Geeze, no. A gland that excretes an enzymatic cocktail designed to dissolve the major components of its body. The only reason things like this aren't used as weapo s is that to be used as a weapon they'd have to be too broad spectrum..and there's no reason to dissolve ones body in the wild so it isnt evolutionarily favorable.So it'd just tur. Into a puddle of goop.
>>31614413We're the queen unit anon.only queens reproduce.
>>31614350flight is more costly, not much benefit.better reserve flight for what needs it.like scout drones / sky huntersI am thinking an eagle like thing, with poison. its small, it is cheap, it doesn't eat much and it can't carry big kills home. but it could sting one of those huge aerial predators and make it fall to its death somewhere, and then the drones collect it for food. or it could fly down and sting a large predator on the ground and again, workers collect the carcass
>>31614385i mean also>tfw no Thinker mad scientist vivisecting bipeds to unlock their secrets
>>31614444not reproduce... they would be genetically identical to it, organs basically.humans have living cells that are "unattached" to the rest of the body. males manufacture sperm cells in their testes, white blood cells are alive and are single cellular things, red blood cells are produced by bone marrow (and consume their own genetic code and cellular machinery to increase their efficiency; so they only last 2 weeks or so).Basically, have it able to "shed" an eyeball and then grow a new one, and the shed eyeball has legs and telepathy to it.might be overly ambitious project though
>>31614156>Speaker dronevibrant colored carapacevocalization organsno back adaptationstandard legsextra dexterous armsno bladesantennae? (current standard adaptations are sound, EM detection, or a more finely tuned set for a specific EM spectrumspecial: self destruct. enzyme rapidly digests body upon death. (damage has a chance to cause pre-mature self-destruction if the gland is ruptured.)
>>31614517It's effectively reproduction anon.WE aren't really 'reproducing' either, we're producing subunits that can only think what we think.
>>31614517I like the idea, but that should wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation before its implemented.
I think specialization should come later when we can afford it. For now, all our morphs need to be simple with what utility we can afford.
>>31614517Expensive, and would require research, but it may be possible.
>>31614517Your eyes are larger than your uterus, anon.You can just lay those spy drones yourself, and have another drone carry them. perhaps in a specialized sack in its body.
>>31610150So how many threads does a medium-difficulty research take at 1 Thinker?
>>31614413>>31614156Back: Beetle reserve, 50count.Arms/blades: Fine manipulation appendages.The beetles should be roughly penny-sized, anf equiped with a death rattle. The explanation for their existence, should any be found, is that they serve as an early warning of toxic environs for the talker. No point in sending the drone into biologically unfeasable discussions, right?
>>31614549we CAN give birth to queens (reproducers)...>>31614586heh, I love you anon, this is a wonderful saying.>>31614582yea, I was way over reaching with this one. maybe one day in the far future. when/if we have a star fleet
>>31614586What this guy said. It would be so much easier to make a drone have a hollow carrier compartment/sac that our spy drones crawl into.
>>31614398Quite possibly.Or the war with the Union could have reasons beyond being "shits".
>>31614620that would work too, they are premanufactured and loaded into the drone. the drone is just a carrier to other drones. we lay 51 eggs. the beetle eggs are tiny though
>>31614620Is all that fanciness really necessary.Just stick with >>31614548
>>31614677If we don't establish this as a thing they do now, we won't be able to later. So, not necessary, but good to have.
>>31614614depends on the research, current research is rather simple so just a day or two to dissect and poke around in the alien carnivore you brought back.>>31614622yes. What makes you a queen is not necessarily the ability to make drones, but the ability to think, project your will, and manipulate the genetic structure of your workers. You could theoretically make organic cloning vats that just pump out drones of your design. That would be a more advanced tech however.>>31614620Due to their size they would be incredibly simple, and would transmit only. Once released they would zip about like flies and would not accept input from you, but you would be able to see through them in a limited fashion.
>>31614763I still don't understand what you meant the benefit was?How this makes the drone more 'plausible'? To what purpose?
>>31614763We can too. It'll die eventually, either naturally or violently, then the new one can have the spy beetles.
>>31614816It would be easier just to make spy drones and send it towards the Talker drone, whom we will know the location of at all times.
>>31614548I think we should cast a vote>add the spy beetles (small, flying eyes that cannot be directly controlled, but will fly around the area and can be used as cameras)>save for later to reduce costs (future research may improve miniaturization)
>>31614879Save for laterWe know there are airborne predators around. Let's wait till we can extinct em
>>31614879>save for later to reduce costs (future research may improve miniaturization)
>>31614879>saveliterally no point but saving travel time
I anticipate long Specialization debates taking up the large space of time that EXP spending debates normally occupy in other quests.
>>31614931It'll likely become less of an issue once resources become more plentiful.
>>31614879ok, final form Speaker dronevibrant colored carapacevocalization organsno back adaptationstandard legsextra dexterous armsno bladesstandard antennae (sensitive to sound)special: self destruct. enzyme rapidly digests body upon deathfinal cost 6 to lay, 3 upkeep. 2 days to hatch.
>>31614931eh, I am the original suggester of the idea (the detachable thing, not the carrier of seperately hatched drones refinement) and I voted against it when I saw how it would come out as well as said "it would probably be too expensive" in a reply to myselfThis was brainstorming rather then a debate since there weren't really sides. just people refining each other's ideas and accepting when they are wrong.
>>31615000I hope the bipeds will be feeding it out of their food stores after it hatches.Can eggs incubate on their own and hatch away from us and the nest?
>>31615000Confirm. Let us properly speak with our human...er...associate for the first time.
>>31615000>special: self destruct. enzyme rapidly digests body upon deathcan this also have an option for manual trigger rather than just on death? (actually... better leave it on death and just have a "suicide pill" ability)
>>31615029>2 days to hatch.anon........all he can do is take the egg back with him, if that's even healthy for eggs.
>>31615054We can still talk with em. Just in two days.
>>31615041all drones would be able to kill themselves with a psychic command.This unit may not have blades to stab its own enzyme sac with, but it can bash itself against available surfaces.
>>31615054>implying we're letting him leave
>>31614931hopefully only for specialty drones, and as you make more custom adaptations I will assemble a table of them and their costs that should help speed things along. (I hope)>>31615028yes. They have all the nutrients they need to hatch within the egg.>>31615041you could force the gland to rupture I suppose, although now I picture it committing sepuku...
>>31615090there is little to be gained by killing it, while sending it back would create significant good will and allow us to milk more info. even if we end up killing them all after we finish getting all the info we want from them (since they cannot communicate it to the rest of their species).>>31615080not if it is restrained in an MRI machine
>>31615107>hopefully only for specialty drones, and as you make more custom adaptations I will assemble a table of them and their costs that should help speed things along. (I hope)I imagine it will a lot. since we would have brainstorming to invent custom organs, and can then just quickly mix and match those into a final organism.>>31615107>sepukuhonor, family, tradition.that being said, sepuku is the pussy version of harakiri.Harakiri is splitting your stomach open and dying over 2-3 days from infection. Sepuku is splitting your stomach open and then receiving a mercy beheading by a friend or a loved one to spare you the pain and suffering and giving you a clean death
>>31615118I guess the only danger left is if they by luck disable the part of it that receives telepathy, yet not kill it, leaving it comatose.Though I guess we shouldn't give him an unhatched egg that won't have self destruct grown yet.
>>31615029Let's go ahead and send one or more of our workers with him, assuming they're in range.
>>31615118I never said I wanted to kill itjust keep it in the cave for 2 days until the speaker hatchesthen we can actually communicate instead of just handing it an egg and hoping it gets back to it's village safely and takes care of the egg properly
>>31615208It may not be able to stay healthy that long without food appropriate for its species.
>>31615208oh, yea. obviously. I meant if it absolutely insists on leaving.Most likely we can convince it to stay for a while, it has broken legs FFS. we probably will have to carry it back
>>31615249>it has broken legs FFSI think he just fixed them with Star Trek Magic.
>>31615244I'm sure we can find appropriate food
>>31615000You lay your latest egg, a special son born to a unique purpose. It will be your voice to the 'Humans'. With the device the one known as Ryan Lee gave you you have learned that it is known as a 'he', and that their kind have only two casts, male and female. To make up for their bleak genetic heritage they seem to have adapted artificial devices to supplement their bodies. You still feel that altering the body is a more direct and efficient rout, but you can only assume they have some problem preventing them from doing that."Ugh..." Lee grimaces at the new egg as he adjusts himself on the floor.>give him the egg>have a worker carry him to his village>keep him in the hive until he is healed>keep him in the hive until the drone hatches>>31615266The suit is designed to grow rigid and serve as a cast in the event of a bone fracture, he can limp on it, but not much else.
>already diplomancingHoly fuck guys.
>>31615249>Talker drone hatches>its first words to the bipeds on its diplomatic missionWE REQUIRE MORE VESPENE GAS
>>31615266they are in a cast. might have nanites rebuilding them but it wont be instantly fixed.oh, their suit contains some interesting tools and we saw a torn discarded suit where its companion was killed and eaten by the predator (it didn't eat the suit), we should have a drone carry it back to hive for study as well. (and perhaps there was another gun there as well)
>>31615326>keep him in the hive until the drone hatchesafter it hatches we can ask him verbally if he wants to stay until healed or go back
>>31615326>keep him in the hive until he is healed>keep him in the hive until the drone hatcheswhichever happens firstif drone hatches before he is healed then have a worker carry him.
>>31615326>>keep him in the hive until the drone hatchesSomeone doesn't appreciate the miracle of life.
>>31615326>keep him in the hive until the drone hatchesDid the tablet have any sort of typing thing so that we could at least explain what we're doing? Or at least a language so we could spell it out?
>>31615326Keep him until healed/Egg hatches
>>31615338Not "take me to your leader earthling"
>>31615326>>keep him in the hive until the drone hatches
>>31615326We should identify any additional predators between the hive and the human settlement.Possibly spies while he heals.
>>31615326Keep him in the hive until the egg hatches, after attempting to ascertain if he will be able to live that long.If he won't live that long then give him the egg and have a couple workers (at least 5, because this place is hella hostile) take him to his camp. Leave him outside it for them to find though.
>>31615382It seems to do several things in a specific order1, test to see if the subject is sentient2, display a series of math equations to convey basic biological appearance, and basic terms3, display language information (written and spoken) using math as a universal decoder ringHe has also told you the location of his settlement. It is extremely unlikely that they know of your existence, or of his situation.
>>31615423His survival isn't that important, actually -- if he dies, it's not like we get blamed, and we can attempt diplomatic contact again.However we should scout out a more precise location of their camps to the east.
>>31615461>basic termsany way to convey "wait 2 days"?
>>31615486Well don't necessarily devalue his survival. It's 'important' in so far as if we lose him we lose a significant boon.His death carries a high opportunity cost, is what I'm trying to say.
>>31615486>His survival isn't that important, actually -- if he dies, it's not like we get blamed, and we can attempt diplomatic contact again.true, but if he survives we appear more friendly to them then we really are. and they are more likely to share info with us.torture, betrayal, and revealing info under duress is a foreign concept to us>>31615495well, it contains written language info
>>31615326Eh, just give him the egg and send him off to his village.Let's not overcomplicate this.
>>31615486>His survival isn't that important, actuallyHaving one of their own vouch for us is still pretty useful at this stage at least.
>>31615326>keep him in the hive until the drone hatchesConvey to him in writing to wait two days
>>31615461This will, perhaps, speed an ease our choice.Ask him if he can stay alive for 2 days.
>>31615524Not really.Queens may be the only sentient life we're familiar with.But nothing's to say that we don't know of inter-colony politics getting complicated, digging info out of rival queens, yes?
>>31615547We won't need that with a Talker Drone?We didn't actually do him any favors, did we. We just moved his injured unconscious body.
>>31615574Eh, the concepts he mentioned probably are foreign to us.
>>31615461How long will it take for the Thinker to figure out their writing system?
>>31615461Anyway for us to see what the dude wants to do? I Mean his legs are all jacked up and he may want recovery time to start with.
>>31615574>But nothing's to say that we don't know of inter-colony politics getting complicated, digging info out of rival queens, yes?most likely done via cloak and dagger wheeling and dealing "I will be your ally" get info and then backstab rather then torture.heck, direct brain dissection might be possible
>>31615591And gave him water. Also, you devalue moving his unconscious/injured body. Something would've eaten him out there if not for us.
>>31615591Unless that Talker Drone comes with pheromone generators, I'm pretty sure the alien life form that mimics speech will be less positively received than the guy that landed with the crew in the first place.
>>31615461Lets write for him that we want him to wait a few days for the egg to hatch for proper communication, and for him to take it with him back to his camp.
>>31615326You notice his discomfort. Such a shame it must be to have such a soft outer layer. A worker arrives and vomits up a gooey glob of mucus and quickly molds it into a mat for him to sit."Uh.... t-thanks..." he says as he scoots himself over and slowly lowers himself onto the soft bed. "Oh god, I think it's seeping into my trousers..." You are unsure what 'trousers' are, but at the very least he seems to be in less pain. "So....does this mean I'm stuck here for a while? I mean, it's nice and comfy here and all, but if I don't get back they will start to worry about me."You take out your blade and trace into the dirt a circle. You then sketch out another circle next to it and trace a ring twice around the first."Ok...pictionary, I can do this." He stairs at the scribble for several minuets until you click your mandibles in impatience."Ok, ok. Two something.... two orbits, you years!"You cover your face with your claws. Even across species you feel shame on his behalf. This must be why he said he was not permitted to do "firt contact"."Oh! Two days. Ok, that's cool."1/2
>>31615597We're familiar with the concepts of war and fealty to queens that have conquered others.>>31427589 Rebellion, betrayal, and extraction of secrets are practically part and parcel of a fealty system.
Can we study the human corpse and try to create a symbiotic parasite to communicate with the bipeds more effectively?It really just needs to receive and relay transmissions. Probably should be left on the drawing board at the moment though.
>>31615674fealty is not acquired via torture, but the promise of survival.You live on to run your own colony, you just serve in a greater alliance of queens.I doubt any humans IRL have been "converted" into becoming vassal nobles via torture (rather then just being killed and replaced)
>>31615665>Two something...two orbits, two years!>Even across species you feel shame on his behalf.This unit of the collective was bemused at this exchange.
>>31615665>queen used the geocentric modelwell it is harder to indicate rotation than orbit.
>>31615696>Can we study the human corpsewe don't have one, it was eaten by the carnivore (whose corpse we brought back with us)I would like to point out i suggested we get the equipment of the fallen human from where the carnivore ate it (the gun, that thing the human injected itself, the thing it used to create the leg casts, a second first contact tablet, whatever extra stuff it carried) for study but nobody replied to that post.
>>31615665Well if all of these things have a similar level of intelligence we can safely disregard them as a threat, comrades.Then again, dumb animals are the most likely to be frightened, and frightened animals with lightning guns are not a good thing to be dealing with.
>>31615716I meant to, but my tablet is utter shit at using 4chan. I approve of those sentiments.
I wonder if there's anything worthwhile up the mountain, or just barren rock.
>>31615727it said it isn't qualified for first contact. this means there is a thinker unit of its race.so we are talking with a worker or a warrior drone, which is exhibiting significantly more intelligence then our workers and warriors...... if we are sufficiently impressed... I wonder if we would dare try making fully sapient non queen drones at some point
>>31615805I wouldn't be surprised if there was a spore volcano up in the mountains, filled to bursting with molten spores
>>31615815The implication behind Thinkers being "as close to sapient as you can get without really being sapient" is that we can't.It's probably got something to do with our means of communication.
>>31615815We already saw in the tablet that their inferior hive only has 2 castes; male and female, and that they do not modify their bodies but rather use tech.
>>31615850>The implication behind Thinkers being "as close to sapient as you can get without really being sapient" is that we can't.we obviously can, queens do it and we can birth queens.I think it would just be extremely expensive to do so (incubation time in years instead of days, high nutrient costs, require thinker to manage incubation, etc)
>>31615665Your workers continue their duty, and the human rests. Most of his time is spent staring at a device on his arm. Our of curiosity you try to steal a look, but it seems to be complete gibberish. Something about young humans fighting other young humans. You find it all to be quite brutal. At one point he seems to notice your interest. "Just some old story. Bit close to home honestly." You disregard it and focus on more important tasks."Queen, I have finished!"Your worker emerges from the corpse of the predator, a grotesque visage covered in splattered gore. You have uncovered some interesting findings from the creature. It has no eyes, but seems to have outstanding sense of smell, and in each of its feet there is a small spike, which is connected directly to a small nerve cluster. It has no true brain, but a distributed nervous system. The small spikes under the feet seem to detect electrical impulses, likely to hunt prey under ground.>select new researchOne of the drones that has been out hunting has gone astray. You have never known of this to happen before. You can no longer feel it, but your other drones can see it walking into the jungle. It does not respond to you.>Follow it with drones sent hunting (how many)>let it go>other
>>31615815We aren't that narrow-minded.We can easily tell this is a non-telepathic sapient individualist species that communicates through sound.He obviously doesn't have communication with his hive, clearly an individual.
>>31615897we overheard a conversation between them, after having gotten the translation, which indicated that different members are of higher intellect than others.And this specific one said there are those who are authorized to deal with us but he isn't oneSo, either the female caste are the thinkers, or there are sub-castes, or there are castes not revealed by the tablet
>>31615908Here we go. Brain-fungus time.Fucking awesome...
>>31615908>Follow itWith two drones, and kill it if it's just aimlessly wandering, and bring it back for consumption. Can't waste valuable nutrients.
>>31615908>Follow it with drones sent hunting (5)Is that the drone that ate from the ocean?
>>31615908Follow it with drones sent hunt, ALL OF THEM. If something has managed to pull the psionic strings of our drone, we need to find it and kill it ASAP.>Select New ResearchInvestigate the spikes on the predator's feet, we could use those.Also dispatch a drone to recover the other human's equipment from the predator's former nest.
>>31615908>>select new researchLightning gun.>>Follow it with drones sent hunting (how many)2 others. We need to know why this happened.
>>31615815There's no point to full sapience, that way leads only to rebellion and disunity in the hive.Thinkers are all we need.>>31615908research the ocean samples.capture that Cordyceps-infected worker! Thinker must dissect.
>>31615953Hell no. Do not bring it back to infect the hive with parasitic fungus.
>>31615908>Follow it with drones sent hunting (how many)3 sounds goodresearch lightning gun
>>31615961yes....specifically the one that ate the film on the surface. It has been a day since then.
>>31615908is this the drone who we had sluggish communication with after it ate one of the stuff?in b4 Ophiocordyceps fungus
>>31615966>researching the 'Very slow' research optionno, we need more nutrient supplies first thing.ocean fungus.
>>31615975Hm. Peculiar. >>31615972It might be a fungus, but drones are simple minded beasts. It's not like the fungus could compete with our mighty brain. And if it can...well. We just found a very dangerous weapon.>>31615975Mind giving a list of all research options when we have to pick a new one?
>>31615936what does that have to do with any of the arguments made in the post you quoted?
>>31615940Judging by the equipment that this one had, and the level of intellect it displays, I'd wager "males" are the more warrior/worker-amenable caste and "females" have greater proclivity towards thinking/social/research roles.
>>31615953hell fucking no we aren't bringing back the parasites.kill it, dissect it (thinker drone cannot move and performs research via remote control of workers), when research done destroy the corpse AND the drone who did the research in case it was infected too and have them burned. also, start developing biological countermeasures based on your research (like, a special worker which produces enzymes which kill said parasite)
>>31615990yupIt has not been quite the same since. Until now you had assumed the effects would wear off eventually, or was simply damage to its brain.
>>31615975Interesting. Follow it.
>>31615908>walking into the jungle...if it's walking towards the ocean...the fungus must at some point release the spores into the air to lure animals to come drown themselves so it can then digest their rotting corpses.but we ate some spores before its normal air release time?
>>31616031aha. well now we know not to eat that thing again.>>31616001just no>>31616027>Next research project - parasite fungus
>>31616073the syrup is totally our new food supply though.Time to set up some drones to cut up the ocean and drag out that sweet spicy syrup.
>>31616054It was more of a meta joke/jab than anything serious, anon.>>31616027>>31616073Eh, we can follow it. If it's released spores from our drone then it's already done it. Let's at least observe the phenomenon. The couple of hours/minutes it'll take it to get to the ocean wouldn't provide enough research for us to save ourselves if it was going to kill us anyway.
>>31615908Follow it with 2 drones. If recovery is impossible, kill but DO NOT EAT. Seal it in some container or something to research later.Next research: parasite fungus, biped anatomy or human language
>>31615908>Follow it with two workers>>31616001Lightning gun - very slow, chance of failure and destroying the sampleocean substance - meddiumfirst contact device - slow, chance of failure and destroying the sampleyou can also propose a new adaptation and task the thinker with attempting to figure out how to implement it.
>>31616104>ocean substance - meddiumI wanted this for nutrient source reasons but now i double vote for it.
>>31616104>ocean substance - mediumThis then. Obviously, it's not normal fungus
>>31616031Wait, which part of the ocean goo did it eat?The membrane, the brown-red goo itself, or the roots?I think it was the membrane, right?
>>31616097did you not read >>31616027?research is done via dissection. and can be done at range.we can have a worker dissect it where it is at under the guidance of the thinker
>>31616104research wise we need to figure out a way to test things besides eating them, like a second stomach that can test foods for spores, poison, and such without being connected to the digestive tract to avoid being affected
>>31616128It was the membrane yes. The 'film' was the bad part.From this post, where QM dropped trip so i didn't see it on first readthrough:>>31609505
>>31616104>Lightning gun - very slow, chance of failure and destroying the samplefirst contact device - slow, chance of failure and destroying the samplegood thing we have two of each... or would have two if we finally sent a drone to retreive the equipment of the human that was eaten by the large predator. which we left in the clearing where it died.so we should REALLY get on that already.>ocean substance - meddiumis that the thing that caused a drone to go rogue? if so I vote for this
>>31616143Yeah but infection only occurred via direct ingestion?it probably is not at the spore production part of its lifecycle right now.But yeah Thinker can dissect it safely away from hive.
>>31609505>hacks and cough, something dryhigh concentration of sporesit is possible they are ALL infected but this one just had so many spores the infection progressed the fastest while the others would take a days/weeks to show symptoms. we should adapt total immunity to this (note I already voted for researching it, I am just explaining why. so don't doublecount my vote pls)
>>31616104>first contact device - slow, chance of failure and destroying the sample
>>31616104You order two of your drones to break off and follow the stray. You must discover what could possibly sever your connection to your worker. The worker stumbles about the jungle, a shell of its normally graceful self. You focus all your effort to peering into its mind, and eventually you get a single thought."Climb"The worker struggles to climb one of the mushroom trees, its carapace cracking as if stiff at the joints. As it nears the top it sinks its mandibles into the trunk of the tree and you can feel it drift away.What could possibly have caused this? You give your thinker a new task, to study the substance from the ocean. It must hold an answer.You hear more cracking. The worker is still moving, but not of its own volition. Its limbs twitch and convulse. You order your workers to flee as quickly as they can and as you do so the stray's head bursts like a blossom, fungal spores, thick with blood fly across the clearing as tendrils of alien fungus sprouts from every crack in its carapace.Roll 3d100 to evade.
Rolled 74>>31616297three different anons?
>>31616297fuck we should've bitten off its legs.
>>31615952>>31615969I couldn't resist
Rolled 51>>31616297no great loss if we get hit, just 2 more dronesworth it to know this fungus grows into brains and gives unnatural compulsions
>>31616336Live and learn.At least we can harvest the syrup.
>>31616343Man I just realized, can you imagine how shit this planet must be to crash land on for the humans?
>>31616370Yeah, everything is fungus and trying to kill you.Even the animals are fungus?How are we defining fungus, anyway.They all must be ultimately deriving energy from geothermal sulfur vents or something instead of photosynthesis.
>>31616297>Roll 3d100 to evade.You're really bad at this. You need to -clearly- indicate what you want. Do you want three rolls of 1d100? Do you want one roll of 3d100? Do you want some unknown number of 3d100?From now on, do this:>Roll XdY, taking the first Z rolls.and replace the X, Y, and Z with the appropriate numbers.
>>31616421>>Roll XdY, taking the first Z rolls.Roll XdY, taking the first Z posts*.
>>31616297this is why i said to kill it immediately and dissect the corpse on the spot (without moving it anywhere). then sacrifice the worker who did the dissectionthe two drones that were MAYBE exposed to this should remain away from the colony, scouting, and only return after a few days have passed and no negative effects were observed.
>>31616297Your drones leap away with every bit of effort they possess. The cloud of spores and chunks of blood splatter the nearby trees. this world is filled with dangers, many of which you have yet to understand. This time your drones have escaped with only a single loss, but you shudder at the thought of if that worker had been carving out our hive.The spores settle, far away from your onlooking drones, and it appears to be clear.>attempt to gather the drone>leave the drone, and forbid any drones from going near it in the future>other>>31616437I really am... at least you rolled well.
>>31616459nah it's finejust let them back in
>>31616474If the spores have settled, it's probably fine. But I'd say>Leave it for now until we research and develop biological immunity to this strand of fungusWe can get it later, if it hasn't rotted.
>>31616406>They all must be ultimately deriving energy from geothermal sulfur vents or something instead of photosynthesis.there aren't any fungus on earth that does that. deep thermal vent creatures are not funguson earth fungus gets its nutrients and energy by either forming a symbiotic relationship with a plant. or by being a parasite, or by consuming corpses.the defining traits of fungus is philia. fungus is a multi cellular organism whose cells form a strand that is 1 cell thick and very very many cells long. Each cell has a fungal cell wall (different from baceterial cell wall and plant cell walls in structure), and the cell walls between each adjacent cells have holes in them which allow for free flow of nutrients and sometimes even DNA between them.Fungus sexually reproduces by two strands from different individuals meeting and combinging their DNA. they then fruit, creating a mushroom which disperses spores
>>31616474>leave the drone, and forbid any drones from going near it in the future
>>31616362pretty risky act if you think about it.
>>31616474have one drone dissect it for study, and then commit suicide on the spot. preferably burning both down with fire (we have FTL, we know fire) when done studying
>>31616522>there aren't any fungus on earth that does that.there aren't any fungus on earth that walks on two legs and eats things either, or that covers the entire ocean, but here we are.
>>31616522Not him, but we're playing a quest with a giant psychic bug crustacean thing as the MC. Are people really going to complain about the fungi being unrealistic?
>>31616406honestly, when I say fungus I mean>alien shit that looks like fungus and has sporesIt has evolved in an environment totally isolated from actual fungus, so if we get down to it, it wouldn't classify as anything properly when compared to earth life. Same goes for the queen. Fungus is just a really convenient term that conveys how it looks and functions really well.
>>31616568>there aren't any fungus on earth that walks on two legs and eats things either, or that covers the entire ocean, but here we are.he seemed to be referring to earth fungus in his post which I quoted, so I explained earth fungus to him.>>31616588nobody complained about it. a person made an offhanded statement about how fungus works on earth, I explained how it actually works on earth.Neither complained on the realism of this fictional alien fungus
>>31616602Heh, just like our bugs look like ant things, but are not related to ants at all.Sci fi magic baby!
>>31616607>he seemed to be referring to earth fungus in his postI meant I was asking how the QM was defining it. which was now answered. 'we' as in the quest, for the quest's purposes.since obviously it's highly unlike any earth fungus, per previous lines.
>>31616602speaking of fungushere are parasitic mushrooms growing out of bigger mushrooms
>>31616474Mark/memorize the location for later, but only come back with fire or a chemical resistance
>>31616474>otherkill it with firewait we don't have fire.note to self: discover fire. then kill it with it.
>>31616682i didn't even THINK of manufacturing a biohazard suit for out drones... but it makes sense. we have FTL tech. we have sensors that can detect life on a planet in another star system. we have heavy industry techheck we can probably send over a mechanized inorganic drone.
>>31616685would you consent to first having a second drone dissect it for study before killing it (and itself) with fire?
After thinker analyzes the ocean fungus samples, we can perhaps then devise a Specialisation purifier unit to ensure no stray spores enter our food supply of sweet spicy syrup.
>>31616750we can dissect or or whatever after the original samples are analyzed that we already have.it's really a decision for after that, dependent on what we learn.
>>31616750we could always evolve a self destruct protocol into future units, like when connection to the hive mind is severed the drone destroys itself with acid blood or something
>>31616757Why not have an organic airlock at our cave?Might be a good purifying chamber.
>>31616685>Discover firecan we lay an egg from which hatches a drone which is basically a sack of self igniting organic naplam and everything else is atrophied (basically has to be carried somewhere)or we could make a drone that has extra bestest sensory and dissection tools and the self immolation ability.Or we are just over thinking it and freaking out over something that is easily solved. I mean, we have zerg tier genetic manipulation here. we can just make ourselves immune to this thing with some study in the future and in the meantime, just keep it away
>>31615908>Something about young humans fighting other young humans. You find it all to be quite brutal.Damn shonen animes / Battle Royale.
>>31616800i can think of worse ways to spend two days
>>31616791How would that even work?Insects that eat foreign and dangerous materials?
>>31616778>after the original samples are analyzed that we already have.oh fuck, there is a sample of it (uneaten) in the fucking cave! take it away right now!>>31616787we already made such a thing, an organ. it just increases cost and decreases (slightly) efficiency in other areas. we put it in our diplomat drone.reason I wanted fire is because it would burn both itself AND the already dead drone. purging both
>>31616791big and expensive.food purifier would be needed regardless.i mean, if our analysis reveals there's any risks of harvest of the syrup getting any of the spore film with it. There might be no risk at all.
>>31616818>>31616791>>31616757a unit that produces a film that can identify and eradicate spores, like a mix of a spider and cleansing bug that feeds on and neutralizes spores
>>31616711....yeah, that's totally what I meant by chemical resistance. You totally didn't just think of a good idea yourself based on misinterpreting my words.>>31616829We should have quarantine rooms
>>31616818we can create organic air filters, doors, etc.an airlock is two doors one after the other. where only one door can be open at oncenot necessary unless you are in a submarine or outer space.for our hive we just need an air filter and a single fortified door
>>31616818Yeah, sure. That works.>>31616829Anon, it's not like it's gonna jump on us. It's a cluster of spores defined down into a slime. It's fine.
>>31616829im saying use that in all future units, like an acid sac that is set to rupture when the mind link is overpowered
>>31616850Overcomplicating.Just have Thinker research a fungicide that neutralizes Cordyceps spores, and a unit that can dispense it.
>>31616855>We should have quarantine roomsagreed, add quarantine rooms to build list.
>>31616880just tossing out ideas, feel free to come up with something simpler
>>31616880i agree that this is the best route.it should also be able to produce "jelly" containing the antifungal agent to be fed into infected in early stages to cure them
>>31616850>>31616757We can use gravity(spores float), filters(organic, rock, sand, whatever), or osmosis(liquid-only movement, not sure how well that works with syrup)
>>31616474>leave it, and don't go near it again (future research permitting)Your drones turn away, and rejoin their brothers on their hunt. They have gathered an assortment of small plants and animals...or at least you think that's what they are. Some of the things that looked like plants either tried to fly away or tried to kill your worker, so you can't be entirely certain where plant ends and animal begins on this world. In any case, they seem edible enough. Your workers even got lucky and encountered the remains of one of the large worms you witnessed before. Several drones load it up and they make their way back, loaded with supplies.+86 nutrientsAs your workers finish their duties, your first eggs begin to hatch."Ah!, uh, something happening!" Lee yells as the eggs around him begin to shake. The first one ruptures with a long, slender claw and a worker slowly seeps from the soft shell and onto the floor."Kinda cute when there little."You find the notion ridiculous. Your children are always beautiful."We are hands, mother!"your children chime in as they attune themselves to your will. Such precious little darlings.As your first clutch workers return, they drop themselves next to the eggs, and the new hatchlings quickly turn on them, tearing them apart and devouring any trace of them. Lee nearly jumps out of his suit.Unsure of what to make of it, he eventually calms himself and states simply "Quite the recycling program you have..."
>>31616877such a thing would decrease our ability to recycle our dead, increase costs, and decrease efficiency of all future units.we have already built A unit with such a sac. we should not make it standard issue yet. maybe if cordicepts gets out of control
>>31616902>>31616880>>31616850ooo I like that, produces a substance that neutralizes any foreign substance that can be ingested for infection and applied to cleanse anything entering the hive
>>31616885From now on, only one drone gets to come in and out of the queen's chamber. to dispense from the food fungus syrup. Food Drone only leaves to put stuff into food storage and otherwise stays with us in quarantine.Everyone else stays out.
>>31616923Hm. Luckily, he's a perceptive fellow. I guess he recognizes the activity here. Good.Alright then! We got us a little food. That is good. Now, we should focus on scouting for/finding a way to farm more resources. A steady income is what is gonna allow us to spread our brood.Any ideas on creating farms? Because I am not 100% on that...For now, let's deal with the human I reckon.
>>31616933>a substance that neutralizes any foreign substance...that's like saying "a bottle of an acid that can dissolve anything"It sounds OP and not entirely logical.I doubt it's possible to neutralize any substance we've never even seen before and thus can't recognize.
>>31616933a panacea like that doesn't exist
>>31616940>and otherwise stays with us in quarantine.the idea of a quarantine is NOT to keep your most valueable unit (us) and resource (+50 food a day spring +water spring) with the infected stuff.it is to make a quarantine room that is isolated from the rest of the hive. so whatever is there cannot infect us, cannot infect our water, cannot infect our food, and cannot infect any of our drones.also, if the hive is infected, that one drone going in and out will bring it to us, so its not a real quarantine.We could and SHOULD eventually create a special quarantine for the queen chamber where things only go out and not in (by having her lay new eggs and then have those carry out the harvested food as they hatch)heck, we should have a seperate chamber for the queen from the food spring
>>31616970>>31616976simple at first that can be updated as we discover new pathogens and neutralizes spores and such not EVERYTHING
>>31616967>Any ideas on creating farms? Because I am not 100% on that...we have this foul tasting fungus that creates delicious jelly spores in water. If we find other suitable springs we could plant more of it. or we could artificially replicate the conditions it grows in.or we could farm anything else really (there are tons of different creatures/plants on this planet). we would basically have to do research on what is farmable and which is most efficient to farm
>>31616923Start with the talking. You can pretty much skip the interactions unless there's a funny quip to make.Carefully quarantine all samples SEPARATELY, and research the brain fungus.also, damn you for the brain-fungus, I'm about to go to the doctor to see if the odd lump on my wrist is completely benign or more dangerous than I thought. I don't need this paranoia
>>31616985Yeah, but unfortunately we committed to the queen's brood lair being in the same room as the steady food supply.using it as a throne.so it was the closest thing.either we need food, and someone has to come in to bring it to us, or they need food, and they have to come in and take it from beneath our big fat butt.
>>31617010>>31616967the humans must be getting food from somewhere, combined efforts could yield farming of some kind
>>31616923>>31617022>Start with the talking.did the ambassador drone even hatch or only the workers?
>>31616923Now for our fabulous rainbow beetle to start singing and dancing.
>>31617034we could have the queens chamber just off to the spring. one drone goes back and forth to it to bring her food and water.daily, newly hatched workers carry water and food out from here to the rest of hive.alternatively we can just harvest her food at the source, but rest of hive can harvest a hundred feet downstream.
>>31616923As your eggs hatch, you pay close attention to one in particular. As it emerges it is obvious even to Lee that it is quite different. It's head is much more rounded than normal, with its mouth a wide maw of solid, chitinous teeth. Two flaps of skin struggle to cover the adapted mandibles, and as it seeps from its egg it tests its unique ability.What does it say to the human?pop is now 20 standard worker drones, 1 thinker, 1 speaker
How immobile is the Queen?
>>31617035The humans come from a very well stocked ship in life boats, they probably have very long-term preserved emergency rations that will run out someday.
>>31617101"Hellooooo Humannnnn. Cannnn yoooou understannnnd meeeee?"
>>31617110all the more reason to work together, they know food will run out if they don't find a steady supply at some point and rations suck
>>31617101AHHHAFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS I'M FREEIT'S TIME TO CONQUER EARTH
>>31617101>What does it say to the human?"urafagetm8"
>>31617101"What's snapping bro? Give me some skin"
>>31617034well you could always make a proper throne room and move theirBut then all the water in the valley wouldn't pass through your carapace
>>31617101"GREEEEEETINGSSSS, WEEE ARRE THHEEE HIIVVVEEE. WEEE OFFEEEERR PEEEAACE"
>>31617137Rita you're drunk, go home
>>31617101Hello, Lee. I will accompany you back to your hive now if you are prepared for the journey.
>>31617101Greetings human, this unit is capable of your speech. now that we can communicate it is time for you to return to your hive. I shall carry you there (using I for hive, we are the queen, we ARE the hive. the dones are our extensions we carry him via drone)
>>31617101"How's my smile?"joke answers aside..."Ready to go now?">>31617105Since her first laying and abdomen swelling, she needs workers to carry her.
>>31617105Your egg sac is about the same size as you now. You can move, bit your egg sac must be carried by a team of six workers.
>>31617150Mweep mweep mweep, all this planets water passes through my glorious egg sac, mweep mweep
>>31617180>I shall carry you there...hmm. i forgot what size this Speaker drone is.Like, all the new workers are nearly the height of the bipeds >>31426509 , but we can make the Speaker smaller right?
>>31617180it is worth noting that any further communication can be done while they are being moved.
I'm kinda disappointed that the egg laying isn't more sexual.But I wouldn't want to weird out the other players purely for the sake of that.
>>31617221>...hmm. i forgot what size this Speaker drone is.Sorry if it wasn't clear, I meant that a WORKER drone is carrying him.I is the HIVE. the speaker and worker are both part oft he I.
>>31617180Just a simple"Let's go then."Then send workers to retrieve his dead comrade's technology after he's gone.
>>31617234I suggested a quest ages ago built around broodmothers, and someone said they'd prefer it in supreme detail about the egg laying...I remember you anon
>>31617258>Then send workers to retrieve his dead comrade's technology after he's gone.+1also, while we are at it. move the sample of horrible brain eating fungus spores out of this cave and put it in some other cave for later study
>>31617234 I share your sentiments
>>31617101The speaker emerges, slowly rises to its full height and looks down at Lee."I...spEEEK. I will TaKe you To your hive."The sounds are off, with clicks and near screeches in the words. This will take some getting used to.Lee stairs up at the speaker, eyes wide and jaw dropped open. Finally he speaks. "Sweet Mary and Joseph, that's fucking terrifying."I think this is a good end for tonight. Will stick around till 404 for feedback.
>>31617315>image.jpg...what are you posting from
>>31617314>"Sweet Mary and Joseph, that's fucking terrifying."Tolda y'all we shoulda gone for the cuddlyfication attempt.
>>31617314It was fun as usual and I look forward to next thread. Also I just knew, like from the very beginning that ocean fungus was going to take over.
>>31617314thx 4 runin budi gud thred
>>31617314archivedhttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>>31617234I'm going for motherly miracle-of-berth as opposed to lewd. It seems far more appropriate.
>>31617314Well that'll need some refinement, maybe.Maybe tell him to keep hive location obscure next time.So how long to analyze the ocean samples?
>>31617314Heh. Well, at least we made it make sense. Even if it's terrifying.Actually, is there anyway to make a queen NOT be terrifying?Anyway. Good thread, QuestDrone. You're a cool guy, and run a mean quest.This your first quest? If so, you run pretty well considering.Also, some suggestions>When asking for us to build stuff, offering suggestions really helps, since it gives us an idea what we are working with.>Putting up a list of 'our tech tree' would be a good idea, the more we research and learn stuff. Also a list of 'known' plants, and stuff like that.>Also, when we're dealing with splitting lots of drones, it might be wise to just deal with fractions. Reduces the amount of time wasted on exactly how many drones we send where. Not as important right now, but it will be later.
>>31617361Just throwing it out there, but birthing-orgasms happen. Sometimes.
>>31617314NEXT TIME: On Hive Mind QuestThe Hive makes first contact with the humans, Lee makes a new friend, and humans attempt to answer that greatest of questions. "If it can understand me, can I fuck it?"
>>31609597>Very good, bring back samples of all 3. The powder sounds like it will make an excellent stiptic powder.Oh boy is this anon's face red.>bleeding wound? stick some of that stuff from the ocean in it!
>>31617383That must be kind of awkward. Tell me more.
>>31617401>can I fuck it?"ahh, the old Capt. Kirk approch
>>31617421>That must be kind of incredibly hot.ftfy
>>31617234It's already weird.
>>31617440Now anon, you realize normal people would consider it practically babyfuck.
>>31617401>can I fuck it?"I don't think it has the equipment
>>31617335>>31617337Much appreciated. I'm just happy people enjoy it.I hope to run again next week, Thursday if I don't have work on Friday, but otherwise I will probably make Sunday a regular thing, or at least as much as possible.
>>31617455...so its bad that I really can't wait to impregnate my fiance and fuck her senseless?
>>31617466>it can evolve itnever stopped humanity before anon
>>31617486>it can evolve itit can't. the queen can cocoon herself to transform but most drones cannot unless specifically made to do so>>31617525dammit. I am want to make this quest pure of all the sexual bullshit. but this actually makes perfect sense once we learn more about human society
>>31617483fiances are male. you mean fiancee?
>>31617544They wouldn't even feel any pleasure from the sex itself. They just do it because it makes queen proud and that's better than any squishy biped dick.
>>31617525>oh drone #1634, the moon looks beautiful reflected off your carapace>>31617544meant the queen could evolve matching parts for the others at some point>not really though, I agree something like this may happen when we learn more about humans but still would rather avoid it
>>31617545yeah yeah. I just hate putting the extra e on there. It looks stupid. Not to forget most of the idiots I've talked to have no idea the difference. So yeah fiancee
>>31617483you mean in that order?
>>31617570obviously. and it makes perfect sense for us to manufacture them and send them to prominent humans once we figure out how their society works... which disgusts me... infact, I am moving that we do not do it even though it is logical
>During thread it's SCIENCE and survival >After thread it's got alien bug sex, orgasms, and banging pregnant chicksStay Classy /tg/ and parts of Asia
>>31617613I thought I'd be safe from the waifuers here.I thought your quest would be a haven.
>>31617613yea... i am with you on that one. as much as it makes practical sense. it will take the thread down roads that it shouldn't go.call it censorship if you want but lets just not do it.I would like to point out I am >>31617619 and >>31617544
>>31617610Well, the second action can take place before and after. But the idea was, impregnate and then fuck prego wifey.>>31617613Also sorry QD, was not expecting my comment to actually be noticed. lol
>>31617646>as much as it makes practical sense> it makes practical senseNo.... no it never did, at all. "hey bb u want sum fuk" is not actually likely to be a good diplomatic method except for very specific human cultures, and only among the 4chan-dwelling deviants who like bug monsters.
>>31617640I don't want to waifu anybody.I want to make specialist units that are essentially whores, which would make us the pimp queen I guess.Calling them "waifu drones" was a joke. The idea itself was also a joke, somewhat, in that although it would work, I don't really give enough of a shit to push for it at all.
>>31617613Don't worry Drone it'll be over soon
>>31617613I think we can all agree no one wants that
>>31617670Oh no, that's fine. Banging away while your child grows inside her and maybe kicks from the inside at all the commotion is cool. Not like you're gonna poke his eye out with your dick.It's the birthing orgasms that are awful babyfuck-esque.Even odder than breastfeeding-a-baby orgasms.
>>31617677Waifu drones. as in, they look almost entirely human. (think star trek aliens). And they are not openly there to fuck. they are "ambassadors" and "cultural explorers" whose secret mission is to seduce influential men.However, as I said before, its just hypothetical that shouldn't be done
>>31617721Don't shittalk breast-feeding orgasms.
>>31617740>>31617721>>31617483I-I I don't even
>>31617735>look almost entirely human. (think star trek aliens).man that'd be super boring.
>>31617735>they look almost entirely humanNope
In all seriousness, I'm always open to feedback. Things that seem unbalanced, or don't make sense.eventually you will be in charge of spaceships and outposts, so when things get to a big enough scale I hope to consolidate the resource and unit production into a larger scale system.>>31617735There are other aliens.... not just humans. In fact the humans are the only humanoid aliens too.
>>31617790>There are other aliens.... not just humans. In fact the humans are the only humanoid aliens too.Humans are the only culture I know of susceptible to waifu infiltration though....... speaking of almost human looking infiltrators. Cylons!
>>31617790I inferred, due to mention of use of metal and minerals to create technology.Quite a ways away, on this death world though, before mining.Do we not have ancestral FTL tier technology in our genetic memory already? Is research still required.
>>31617790Here, I made this in case you missed it. >>31617378
>>31617790>eventually you will be in charge of spaceships and outposts, so when things get to a big enough scale I hope to consolidate the resource and unit production into a larger scale system.seemed obvious from mentions of industry, metal usage, and the fact we had an FTL engine bolted onto our egg
>>31617813Yes, you have access to the Blink Drive, but it will need a lot of infrastructure to create and develop fuel for. It permits instantaneous travel from point A to point B, but as the distance increases it becomes more and more inaccurate. Range is mostly dependent on sensors.
>>31617790We can have multiple sets of antennae on speciality drones?We really should have at least one for EM radiation.To detect the radio frequencies the humans' technology uses, and figure that stuff out.
>>31617858You would need to make room by weakening other senses, such as eyesight if you wanted multiple, but I don't see why not.
>>31617858>To detect the radio frequencies the humans' technology uses, and figure that stuff out.we don't know that it uses radio (if it even uses radio, maybe it has quantum entanglement communicators)
>>31617880what about my earlier idea of scout/hunter drone?a small flier (size of eagle) that has poison sting. it can sting a giant flyer predator or large carnivore predators and then workers will carry the carcasses to hivealso, when fighting it can augment warriors by stinging enemies. it mostly works off of being really fast, mobile, and poisonous
>>31617880Oh, the carapaces for our newly hatched replacement Worker drones.Are they camouflaged according to the local forest?And they handle the atmosphere much better than the first clutch, right.
>>31617916what does it sacrifice from the standard model in exchange for these advantages?
>>31617945it is tiny in comparison to the standard model, it is much weaker. it has no real carry capacity at all. it has no non-poison means of dealing effective damage (in case it encounters something immune to its poison).it probably has higher metabolism (however that is balanced by its much lower mass). poison has limited storage amount and needs time to recharge obvious.
>>31617916That sounds fine. Wing adaptations are unique in that they cause changes in other adaptations, such as lowered durability (less health) and smaller in size. It also gives them a higher metabolism, which gives them a slightly higher upkeep cost. Poison, venom, or other toxins could be researched (lord knows you are surrounded by the stuff already) to make a stinger adaptation.>>31617923Yes, but they do change slightly with their diet.>>31617945It would be fast and small, so hard to hit, but if anything did hit it it would likely be down for the count. Stinger effectiveness would be determined by what you research, and swooping attacks would get a bonus to damage, but would be less accurate.
>>31617991We can begin mining at any time?What would be the... first 'step' in tech tree climbing -- you know, the first tools required to make more complicated tools, which are required to make more sophisticated technology in turn , etc.
>>31617991perfect. I wanna research that then. we shall use it to hunt the flying predators. with the predator population decimated our species will be safer from attacks AND will be able to assume their role as the top of the food chain (something has to keep the population of creatures lower on the chain in check lest they over-breed and consume all natural resources and all starve)
>>31618026Yup, although you can't just dig anywhere. You need to find an ore vein. I'll just lump all metals into one big category for simplicity, and once you find one I'll roll for richness.It should be noted that mechanical and organic tech are not mutually exclusive, and you can mix and match them as much as you want. It might end up a horrible frankenstein bug monster, but you can still try.>>31618032wings or stingers? you already have wings, and you will need to research a poison, venom, or other such toxin to incorporate it.
>>31618092>wings or stingers? you already have wings, and you will need to research a poison, venom, or other such toxin to incorporate it.the entire designwings, stinger, and toxin.and while we are at it. make it as small as it can be while maintaining full range of vision and telepathy. (not sure how small it is).... actually, what sizes are workers, warriors, and thinkers?
>>31618092What's the minimum size for a controllable drone?Is this modified for whether we want it to be able to fly, in addition to see and hear and crawl?
>>31618127stingers are just a delivery system.wings you have.you need toxin SAMPLES to research and duplicate it sounds like.
>>31618182It will certainly take work to get such a thing working, yes.I was just describing what I want to achieve.
>>31618156At current tech, i'm gonna say about 2 feet if you start stripping other parts to make room while still being a functional drone. You could research genetic miniaturization, but it would take a while.>>31618127workers are about the same size as an average human, around five feet. Thinkers are just a brain in a box, so they are much smaller. About a foot in diameter and they look like a beetle. Their legs are bundles of nerves that can 'plug' into other drones, but they can't move, eat, see, ear, or do anything other than sit and think.Warriors are quite large, and well worth the big cost increase. Almost seven feet in total. They are much, much slower and less dexterous than workers, but they can shrug off small arms fire like it was a squirt gun. They may have a harder time stopping a lightning gun, though.
>>31618231five feet high?seven feet high?what about length and breadth?
>>31618231So question.Do you have an idea of what a alien bug queen hive should look like internally?Because I don't.
>>31618250I imagine ant/termite nest. If it gets big anyway
>>31618250That part is really open-ended. It's daunting, i have no idea how to begin to plan 3D base layout.
>>31618243That would be their height when standing upright, as which point you could imagine them having dimensions similar to a centaur, so about the same in length.>>31618250Personally, I have always preferred to describe actions and let the reader assign what appearance they think is the most appropriate, although the closest thing I can think of would be pic related.
>>31618250I feel like QD should present a couple options for us to pick from with the option of mish-mashing parts if we want.I mean, fuck, we're supposed to have an extensive genetic memory with all kinds of shit. We can shit out a warp drive but we can't get a couple of options for digging a hole?
>>31618303To anyone wanted to provide drawings, I would encourage you just draw the first thing that you think of when you think of the queen or a drone. It's open ended on purpose.
>>31618313There are some basic things we can guess, though--Like, digging deeper into the mountain, but not LOWER.because lower, you might dig your way into a water way and flood yourself.
>>31618231>Warriors have harder time taking a lightening gunfuture drone type research.Speedy fighters: as fast and agile as possible. those drones fight by wielding a lightening gun. They rely on camoflage, shooting first, dodging, cover, etc to kill their enemies.>>31618231>At current tech, i'm gonna say about 2 feet if you start stripping other parts to make room while still being a functional drone.sounds great. so, for my fliers we would make them 2 feet (vs the 5 feet tall workers) stingers. they will die to a single strike from pretty much anything. but hopefully they get to sting the enemy to kill it. call them kamikaze drones. (and gotta research them of course)
>>31618303The only reason I ask is because...well I mean, I want our 'palace' to end up multi-level, sprawling, and too complex for mere humans to just walk in and snipe our Queen.Can we like have, Hive 'levels', where the structures grow more complex if we dedicate time to it, increasing 'defense' or something?It's a bit hard to tell you when and what caves we want carved out, after all.
>>31618330Sadly, the only drawing I could do is MSpaint. And you do not want to see me do that. It's terrible.
>>31611020Oh hey this was the final decision right?So we just tripled our Thinker power?
>>31618303>pic related.I missed it the first time I read the sentence too, but they were asking what a 'hive' should look like internally, not what the queen looks like.
>>31618368Nothing could be worse than my art, trust me. It's like I have two left hands, and I'm right handed.>>31618378yes, when they hatch you will be able to research 3 things at once, or combine them to make research faster and safer, or research something while giving a passive bonus to your drones.>>31618391ah. Same pic I suppose, but the background instead. The workers eat rock, grind it up, and mix it with saliva into a cement-like compound, so termite-like.>>31618357possibly. You would end up with areas some of your drone casts couldn't fit in though.>>31618342as to the lightning gun, think pic related, but in a compact rifle form. Shit accuracy, but high damage.
>>31618425>possibly. You would end up with areas some of your drone casts couldn't fit in though.Oh? Would you mind expanding on that a little bit?I'm curious.Anyway, I am really getting excited for this quest. After we secure a solid income, our hive can grow big time. Just need to get farms and shit down.
>>31618451Well warriors are quite large, so if you are looking for architecture that limits enemy movement, it would probably be too small for most warriors. Of course, you could make a caste of smaller warriors made for close combat in that environment.I want to make a map of the hive, but I have a feeling it will quickly become a cluster fuck of tunnels going in so many ways it would stump a Wankavator.I'm really glad people like it. I just thought it would be a fun premise, spent a bit of time thinking on how it would work, and just ran it. It's new territory for me, but a hell of a lot of fun. Wish I could run more often.
>>31618425No, they just wanted more complexity to the hive to confound human navigation without perfect telepathy I think?Like making the hive purposely unnecessarily confusing, like a labyrinth.Anyone with mapping technology wouldn't be slowed down for long, but it'd force them to make a lot of exploration and guesses.
>>31618504>Smaller tunnelsNah man. The secret is LOTS of tunnels, going EVERYWHERE. That's how real ants do it. Confusing for anything but their own men who know the scent trail to follow.But if you did a map for it, you don't need to do all those tunnels dude. Just do the basics>Palace/Throne>Storage>Birthing/Egg room>Etc etc etc as neededOnly show the rooms, and how they relate to one another via distance and 'floor', and the paths that lead directly to and from. That's all that matters, right?
>>31618425>saferAll on the lightning gun! We're gonna be insectoid electric eels, guaranteed.Think we can also recover a biped suit and figure out all the neat bits and baubles it's got? Our current specimen seems to be using his at the moment.I'm also surprised we're diplomancing with non-queens already. We should be prepared in case the bipeds want to try and exterminate us while we're still so vulnerable.This one has already expressed displeasure towards our attempt at creating a more suitable medium for communication for some reason, so who knows how others like it will react.
>>31618537Yeah we can just keep a running descriptive greentext in that case.
>>31618569Yeah really it's far too early at such a vulnerable state.Fortunately, they are isolated and cut off from their civilization.Which means we have a time limit to GIT GUD before they can Exterminatus.
>>31618569We're not so much...diplomacizing...as we are determining hostility. This individual is okay, so we shall attempt to communicate with his kind. If they displease us, or withhold valuable resources, we will do what we must to survive. The hive comes before all. The swarm must survive.
>>31609088Man, that went right out the window with the new thread didn't it./tg/ never resists the urge to diplomance.One can only hope Spaceman Lee will adhere to a request to keep the hive location secret.
>>31618521Oh, yea that could be done rather effectively. In fact, even without trying it will end up confusing for others to navigate just because of the lack of windows, signs, or major landmarks. Intruders would defiantly have a major penalty to finding their way around unless they have some kind of tech to overcome that.>>31618537Yea, I figured I would try that.On an unrelated note, if ever want to get in the mindset of a hive insect, you should check out The Besieged Fortress. It's been described as "Apocalypse now on six legs" and that's the best description I can think of. It's about an African termite colony that goes through a series of Dorf Fort grade FUN.>>31618569honestly, I was surprised when you elected to not eat the four humans you found at the pod right then and there, but pleasantly so.
>>31618602>REVEALING YOUR EXISTENCE AT ALLthat's where you fucked up.it's not worth the risk at such a vulnerable stage.they only want off this planet, but who knows what other people might recognize us as matching the description of a threat from a foreign star system?
>>31618609>Labyrinth is goSweet. Protecting the queen is priority.Oh, speaking of: Can we make 'Princess' drones that can evolve into a queen, should we parish? Or is there no such luck right now?>Besieged Fortresssounds interesting. Termites are one of those types of bugs-terrifyingly effective.>SpoilerHeh. Could 20 babby drones kill four armed (well, at least one was armed) humans?I am not 100% on the strength of each drone currently.
>>31618604oh, and just so you know, the term "spaceman" was taken from the military rank "Airman", and is not meant to be as pulpy and golden-age themed as it sounds. It seemed like it made sense at the time, but now I keep picturing Buck Rogers when I read it.
Man, I can't wait until we start doing ridiculous projects like flea circuses, or gold-plated carapaces.All of our attempts at simulating human culture will be hilariously wrong and unbelievably disgusting to them; we know inside that our children are beautiful.
>>31618628No no anon, we will not reveal ourselves at all. Only the drone will speak.
>>31618630...what you are suggesting is laying queens.Making queens that only become sentient on your demise would be ridiculously OP extra lives.They aren't you.
>>31618635I do too. I picture the bulky ass space suits Neil wore.I enjoy the image.>>31618646Hey, it was just a thought, anon.
>>31618635I keep picturing these guys as astronaut cowboys. So yeah...
>>31618630You were in a good enough position to try, but would have defiantly taken heavy casualties. I can say that for sure.As for queens, yea you could, but you would have no control over them...or the hive they themselves control, and yes, your kind has known very bloody wars over land, resources, and living space. (of course, the billions of drones lost are not really mourned all that much.)So you can, and she would still consider you a relation, but you should keep that in mind.>>31618656>>31618657retro ascetic is best ascetic.
>>31618645it's a little late for that!Spaceman Lee saw the hive, the eusocial structure, the disregard for individual lives.they know everything they need to exterminate us if they wanted to. or anyone they ever talk to wants to.even just revealing the Speaker drone is revealing your existence enough regardless. Questions will be asked. You can lie and say you're that body alone... then they'll want to know your whole deal and life cycle eventually. And knowledgeable xenobiologists might recognize a mildly modified worker drone and see through the ruse anyway.That being dependent on terminating Lee.
>>31618711Ah. Good to know then. So no Princesses for us, then.Hm..Wow. then we'll need to come up with stuff to increase our queen's range of telepathy then I guess if we want to control the planet.I guess the question is: Why do we exist? Was one old queen desperate for the continuation of our species, and launched us deep into space maybe?A good tactic for a losing war, no doubt.
>>31618733You have no idea.I was wondering when somebody would ask that.
>>31618714That does not mean they will pursue our death, only learning about us. Our drone would of course deny it, and if they threaten, it will just dissolve.I also highly doubt the human will be able to retrace his steps through severeal miles of fungal monster forest he's never seen before. Besides, we were friendly to him.All that said, I definitely think building a few warriors is a good idea. If only to be sure.
>>31618733>our genetic memory kicks in at the sight of a particular hive>we become engulfed with a singular driving thought, more powerful than any fungus could suggest: Kill them.I like this plot twist.
>>31618756I've been assuming it was just standard "spread my genes throughout the stars" manifest destiny.
>>31618756I have been thinking it, dear QM. But ah, so many questions I have.I like the idea of keeping a pod of like, 500 Princess, and launching them in all directions in space should our hive become under dire attack. Those that find anything, will continue our blood line. And it's also a big "FUCK YOU" to the 'x extermination race'.I also desire to become more like the Rachnii. Not necessarily hostile, but expansionist and territorial. We will not make the mistakes they did against the Krogan...
>>31618765>That does not mean they will pursue our death, I never said it would. The point is:a) nobody knows you exist: nobody can destroy youb) somebody knows you exist: not impossible for them to decide to destroy youwhich is preferable? when you haven't even hatched warriors yet and still eke out new nutrient sources?>I also highly doubt the human will be able to retrace his steps through severeal miles...he can see the river anon. right here in our hive.he just has to follow the water upstream.
>>31618798I suppose you make a good point. Yet still, there is possibility for knowledge here. These creatures are quite skittish. There is very few ways we would be able to speak with beyond one on one that WON'T end with us getting shot.I guess what I am saying is either we're nice to the human, and try to speak to them this way, or not at all, and risk them finding us as our hive grows and attacking us out right out of fear.This way: We are seen as intelligent, worthy of speaking to (and hell, it appears to be worthy of some sort of information, too, whatever that device was.)
>>31618832If they encounter and discover our existence and hostilities are initiated, THEN we can sue for peace by bringing our Mr. Speaker to them.saying hi i'm sapient. and figured out your language. sorta.
>>31618853Another excellent reason to build Warriors soon.
>>31618832>that deviceIt's intended to teach new aliens English, to make first contact possible without involving half of NASA to spend years on xenolinguistics research. Mostly it's to try to keep the grunts from embarrassing the human race in front of alien diplomats.I must admit, I'm a fan of the 'starfish alien', so inter-racial relations tend to be a bit awkward.
>>31618868Starfish aliens are damn hard to pull off in a sentient manner, too. I look forward to what you have in mind, QD.>That device teaches englishHeh. The ultimate "Learn the language" policy, hm? Still. It implies the explorers are meant to make peace with new species.
We should only bring the Speaker to human camps while it's with an actual human.If we send a Speaker to a sapient race that doesn't know who or what we are, they're going to assume we're some sort of face-wearing murder insects and try to kill us before we kill them.
>>31618888I mean, we ARE, but still.
>>31618883Honestly I hope I can do it justice. There is a fine line between "really fucking freaky" and "ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!" The intention is that each race is a different from one another as you are from the humans.Apples derogatory nickname, like Kraut.
>>31618952>ApplesShit, I meant to ask you about that.........Tree monsters?Entirely photosynthetic race?This planet must be their hell.
>>31618974Nope. I'm sure you will think the term is agonizingly cheesy when you see them though.
>>31618988Heh. I look forward to it. The 'old timey space suits' still make me chuckle.
>>31618988When do you think you'll run again, QD?I am excite.
Just thought of something absolutely terrifying.We evolve up and create hundreds to thousands to millions of fast Locust drones that can eat any organic substance on a given planet.After making the whole planet barren, or whatever parts we demand to be barren, we shovel all extra nutrition in Honeypots and start creating anything and everything we desire.Locusts could turn into Honeypots on demand just like real ones, so that we wouldn't have to to keep birthing Honeypots, or getting the Locusts to carry around freshly-hatched Honeypots. If we do this, we will replace all life on the planet with Honeypots.Although we should only do this to other planets once we establish a home. It'd be a pretty nasty thing thing to do.
>>31619126>that can eat any organic substance on a given planet.here's where you lost me as in "doubtful, pipe dream, OP in a game like this".>Honeypot...and i have no idea what this means. or rather how you seem to mean it instead of a normal meaning of a trap.
>>31619059Probably next weekend. Will post on the Twitter as soon as I know.