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Having a succubus familiar is perfectly okay if your character is female, right /tg/?
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>succubus familiar
Fucking powergamers.
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>Lesbian Sorcereress gets a Succubus Cohort, keeps trying to seduce her
>Succubus only goes one way, keeps acting extremely modest.
>Cute things happen, followed by yuri scenes.
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>>31513372
Yeah, sure.

I'm sure it could be something like a childhood freind which helps a girl into womanhood, teaches her the ins and outs of sexual appeal, lust, controlling men, etc....

Nothing primarily sexual, hell, she could even be neutered.
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>>31513555
>"So you wanna be a prostitute, well, whoopdidoo. I have been around the block before with blondies just like you. Each and every one disappointingly plain! For which their ain't no ointment. So much for excuses, overly sized tooshes, asking me to loosen their restrain! My answer is two words!"

"O...kay."
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>>31513582
Well, it is useful having an experienced woman teach you the ins and outs so you aren't taken advantage of when adventuring because you're a nerdy wizard, witch or sorceress who only just left the magic guild/master to venture out with your slutty slightly uncooperative until later levels succubus familiar.

She'd also be useful outright for spying on men, and getting insight or bonuses to seduction checks, appraisal and the like.
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>>31513372
don't ask us, ask your ERPG group.
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>>31513617
Yeah but to be honest she would probably fuck you over (No, i'm now preventing you from picking out your favorite aroused anime reaction image and going >fuck you over. I'm evil like that) considering that she's A) demon B) evil as satans shit who recently joined the EA and got to head honcho position and C) she wants nothing but to fuck men.

Honestly you should just get a pet turtle or tiger, shits way more controllable and better than a cock hungering soul wrencher.
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>>31513582
>overly sized tooshes

That's impossible
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>>31513667
You can't prevent shit, anon.

>fuck you over

Now that that's out of the way,
>evil
too.

Because hurr always evil is faggotry and wrong.
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>>31513798
You just saying that because you want hot yuri action while going "P-purest love!". While i don't blame you there's a difference between an creature with free will that is made in natural ways labeled evil... and a creature entirely made out of the whole concept of evil.
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>>31513826
Negative energy =/= evil, that's just what trolls on /tg/ say. Don't listen to trolls, anon.
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>>31513372

You can be male and have a succubus familiar. Just have your character believe they are a inherently disgusting and morally reprehensible species. He would use the succubus as a tool, to gain knowledge and influence over others.
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>Be a sorcerer, fluffed as an Earthbound-styled psychic
>Go a little mad with power
>Succubus familiar is actually your imaginary friend
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>>31513851
Negative energy is for undead, friend. Devils, demons and the like are evil given form, life, and, depending on setting, a modicum of free will. (See Fall-From-Grace for an example of the latter)
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>>31513851
So why is it not evil.

Explain why demons are and can be good.

Please let me see your worldview of purest love.
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>>31513372
It's always perfectly okay to have a succubus familiar.

>>31513528
I have to add this in my next campaign, whichever it is.

I built a succubus table for my last (short-lived) campaign.
>mfw the wizard summoned one and made the binding contract "do whatever you want just don't screw with me"
>mfw he then summoned two celestial beings to keep her in check
>mfw he still to this day does not understand why he pissed all three off so hard they banded together just to fuck around with him
>mfw they actually provided plot and benefit to the party while doing their own agenda
>mfw he refused to summon the rest of the succubus table because "waah waah intelligent beings aren't toy that obey my every command! You're just fucking with me on purpose!

Why do I have the worst players, /tg/?
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>>31513372
Having a succubus familiar is fine for anyone
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Vampire secretary cohort.
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>>31513956
>Any free will at all
>Always pure evil
Pick one, anon.
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>>31514045
As I said, it depends on the setting. Demons & Devils always start as incarnations of evil, but in some (like Planescape) they are able to evolve from it. In others, they're stuck to 'all the evil, all the time!'
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>>31513977
Well maybe he realised that summoning succubuses was shit and not worth it. Also i honestly don't believe someone is stupid enough to look at a demon and just go "Oh yeah you got free reign, just don't suck my cock!"
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>>31513956
>Never played Planescape Torment
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>>31514137
>Also i honestly don't believe someone is stupid enough
You better believe it.

Honestly, she was one of the tamest in the table, she never actually hurt him, his interests or the party, just fooled around.

But then again, the player has the social skills of a typical basement dweller. Keep that in mind. Even the celestials he cherry-picked them from the monster manual and kept pointing their spell-like abilities at me saying "THEY MUST DO THIS THIS AND THAT TO MY SOLE BENEFIT" like they were magic wands with infinite charges that didn't take actions to use.

And I swear, he still to this day does not understand why he pissed them off, his reasoning was "Oh but I am LAWFUL NEUTRAL, I am above good and evil therefore they can't tell me shit and am objectively right because LAWFUL".

I wish I was making this up.
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>>31513372
Koakuma's not really a succubus in the sex-demon sense. She's just a succubus in the cute-girl-demon sense.
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>>31514197
You either misquoted, or failed at reading comprehension, considering F-F-G is my standard exemple for a demon who managed to evolve from "always evil, all the time!"
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>>31513977
>Succubus table
Show us, anon.
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>>31513957
You're so anti-yurifag that it made you retarded.
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>>31513372
Koakuma best book sorting succubus.
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>>31514254
>I am LAWFUL NEUTRAL, I am above good and evil
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>>31514510
Agreed.
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>this thread
Well what about it we approached it from the OTHER SIDE?
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>>31514805
An angel familiar? Seems a bit... pretentious.
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>>31514805
Why in the multiverse would a succubus wizard want a human as a familiar?
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>>31514132
>In others, they're stuck to 'all the evil, all the time!'
nope.
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>>31514937
Because they give you way too many bonuses to skills. Versatile little bastards, if a bit short lived.
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>>31514937
Because they're so desperate that they'll do anything to please you, mostly.
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>>31514805
It goes the way of christian thinking about how things sexy and tempting can't be good. Sorry anon, we're well past the days of fertility goddesses and holy temple whores. Makes me sad.
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>>31514923
>>31515046
What about a minor Heavenly companion who likes smiting evil and wrongdoers as much as the next Angel, but also happens to enjoy sex?
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>>31515099
?
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>>31514805
The problem with "sexy angel" is they're basically perfect. Not only is she a total slut, but she's also a great person, because she's an angel. There are no downsides.

It lacks the "you want to, but you shouldn't because she's bad news" aspect of the succubus, where you legitimately have to decide whether it's worth it.
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>>31515196
As long as you ask the succubus nicely not to level drain you/take your semen, shapeshift, and impregnate someone, you're fine.
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>>31515218
But what if she's a dickass and betrays you?

At least with angels you can expect that.
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>>31515196
See
>>31515155

Where the snag is that the angels are basically able to enjoy every pleasure of the flesh with none of the personal downsides; immune to STDs and gaining weight (through non-magical means anyway), supernaturally lucky enough to send casinos broke, and ultimately unable to properly relate to the humans they're supposed to protect. Allies that must be used carefully.
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I'm playing in an Anima campaign where my wizard-mentalist convinced the party's summoner to bind a Succubus to her as a familiar.

The general consensus is my wizment is probably a worse person than the succubus.
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>>31513372

Depends on what the power level of familiars generally is.

If people generally get housecats, it's a bit much to get a full sized humanoid.

However, having a succubus contact who does things for you, if earned in good way, is fine regardless of the gender of anyone involved.

Since in my settings, succubi are not trapped into a particular sex, summoning one while female and not lesbian doesn't mean you have immunity to the devil's charms.
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>>31515196
>The problem with angels is that they're perfect


I'm going to be honest, I don't really see a problem here
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>>31515331

Hey, when you want a sexy flesh robot, you get a sexy flesh robot.
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>>31515361
No, because perfection implies being perfectly knowledgeable and perfectly conversant in all the right things at all the right times, doesn't it? Nothing robotic about that.
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>>31513582
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>>31513977
I would watch this anime
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>>31515331
Here's a problem

>Wizard with Sex Angel familiar
>"Hey that Wizard is always in the company of an Angel, I bet he's some Lawful Good Paladin-wannabe."
>"He's got some nerve visiting the Wizards Guild of No Sense Of Right or Wrong."
>"I bet he's here to force us to stop having fun."
>Yeah, let's gut him."

TL:Makes No Sense - By hanging out with an Angel some people will think you are here to smite them for being evil, and will try to get rid of you.
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>>31515482
>Evil Folk will avoid your company
>Evil Folk will expose themselves as villains in your presence

Even more hidden benefits keep rolling in. I think Angel Familiar gf is here to stay, Anon.
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>>31515482
Did you seriously try to say that if you look like you're good aligned then neutral characters will try to murder you preemptively.

That is the dumbest possible interpretation of anything. Even evil characters would leave you the fuck alone because they don't want to fuck around with divinity. Anyone strong enough to fight you would know angels aren't something to fuck with, anyone NOT strong enough to fight you will just be scared shitless of angels.
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>>31513582
>I'd given up hope that someone would come along
>A girl with has ass for once
>not a dong
>The kind who earns high fees
>Won't settle for low fees
>Please no more he-she's
>But no - I get the virgin
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>>31515551
Not everyone who is good has an angel for a friend, someone who makes a point of having an angel for a familiar/cohort must clearly be an ultraExalted Good crusader type - otherwise why does an angel consider hanging around her?
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>>31515608
To redeem her? Gosh, Anon, there could be loads of reasons.
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>>31515384

I was always under the impression that it was more like they were perfect at what they were made for.

>Be an angel of soldiering and beating down dudes that are beneath Michael's attention but still need a shot to the nuts.
>Soldier and beat down dudes like a goddamned BAWS.
>Kind of fail to keep up with the times and what humans are doing these days.
>Get sent to deal with some dude in a city called New York.
>Grab toga and manifest in a dark alleyway.
>Step out.
>The humans make weird faces.
>Their clothes are all different.
>One of them keeps annoying you about whether or not you've been drinking.
>Asks you to walk a simple line and repeat "Alpha beta gamma delta epsilon..." forwards and backwards
>Fucking humans.
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>>31513582
Ow god reading that in his voice. Memories, gonna watch Hercules now.
Thanks anon
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>>31515608
Because if you ask a wizard why they did anything ever they will always reply
"shit was jokes" and then set you on fire.

Seriously evil doesn't hunt down good, evil hides from good. If they think you're an ultra crusader then they're going to run the other way because they don't want their ass crusaded upon.
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>>31513372

Meh. I've seen it done right and horribly wrong. However, the only way that I've seen a succubus familiar done right in recent years can be summarized in a quote from a certain geriatric archmage, who after weeks of people assuming he was a sexual deviant out of game shared this gem:

> "Young lady, I am 97 years old. These old bones don't need that sort of excitement anymore and even if they did, magic would likely have to be involved for the act. That said, I do not summon succubi for that purpose but rather because they are the only demon that I've ever found capable of learning table manners and who can be trusted to maintain some semblance of personal hygiene of their own accord."

He basically had three succubi that he kept on staff, but only for the actual purpose of reorganizing books, helping him bathe, dress, and all of those things. It wasn't sexy times, but it was hilarious to watch the party let their own imaginations run wild.
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>>31513372
>Succubus familar

That sounds like it needs an extra feat or something, succubi are CR 7.

Otherwise, sure, I don't give a fuck, bang your fam all day if you like. Might be cool due to that 'shared senses' thing.
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>>31513957

Someone clearly has never played a Megami Tensei game. A real one. Not that Persona crap.

A demon need not be evil, just heavily chaos aligned enough to be considered generally bad. Remember, neutral-chaos is just as dangerous as light-law in many circumstances. Hell, that's the entire point of the SMT series. Lawful good isn't all it seems to be.
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>>31514805

And then you break the Lord's law, and she smites you.

>but I didn't know that was sinning!

Ignorance is no excuse, now die.

Law-fags, please leave.
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>>31515790
Their definition of demon is different though. In most of their game they essentially mean any outsiders to their world.
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>>31515669
>evil doesn't hunt down good, evil hides from good

I don't agree
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>>31513977
Sounds like one of my players. He constantly uses the fact that out of character, he see's the trap, but in character he doesn't know the trap is there.
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>>31515953

Indeed, however, they do include classic, actual demons in their demonology. A lot of them are not evil, per se, but rather chaotic neutral. Lilim and succubi in these games tend to be neutral-chaos aligned rather than evil-chaos.

Basically, they do what they want and have an aversion to listening to rules and regulations.

In AD&D, which the MegaTen alignment system is based off of, chaotic evil and chaotic neutral aligned characters were often the most dangerous ones, namely due to how unpredictable they are and their general refusal to play by any rules other than their own.
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>>31514937
Because I'd willingly offer my free will for the rest of my life if I get to share the bed of a succubus for the rest of my life.

>captcha: hoopless was
... Welp.
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>>31515724
>That sounds like it needs an extra feat or something, succubi are CR 7.
Just refluff a quasit as a minor succubus and take Improved Familiar (the feat you need for quasits).
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>>31515551
>Anyone strong enough to fight you would know angels aren't something to fuck with
Well apparently, said "you" doesn't.
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>>31515953
That kind of definition isn't necessarily unique to that either. Hell, (hee hee) angels and demons are technically the same species, after all. And even in D&D settings they tend to be similar kinds of creatures, could argue that the definitions are imposed by humans in the first place. Also alignment a shit.
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>>31516062
I read that as some kind of reverse soul selling.

Where the sex crazed succubus sold her soul for the humans free will.

Man i should not be on 4chan at 4pm.
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>>31516149
>Reverse soul selling

Brb worldbuilding.
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>>31515965
Then you don't understand the system. Evil is first and foremost about selfishness, it's about caring only about yourself.
A high level evil threat would know that fighting a high level good character wouldn't be worth it. unless they're a chaotic evil type, in which case they wouldn't be "hunting down" anyone so much as longing for destruction in general.
Stop thinking that Evil is the same thing as Good, but with horns.
Good hunts down evil because good must improve the world and rid it of threats. Evil hides from good because Evil cares only about itself, fighting good doesn't advance evil. escaping and continuing to be evil is what promotes the most evil.

It's like cats and rats. A cat's goal is to kill all the rats in the house to make it a good house. A rat's goal is to not get killed by the cat while breeding more rats and eating all the food and shitting in the walls.
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>>31515482
But if they try to get rid of me for having an angel, that means they ARE evil and they deserve to be smote.
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>>31516203

Evil is such a relativistic term, though. My good could very well be your evil.

Don't trust those LG aligned folks.
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>>31513957
>Someone clearly has never played a Megami Tensei game. A real one. Not that Persona crap.

Don't knock the gateway drug.

> A demon need not be evil, just heavily chaos aligned enough to be considered generally bad.

There is no good and evil, just light and dark in MegaTen. Chaos is all about freedom, competition and self-reliance.

Too deep and too much makes you a strong-rule bullying dick into juntas and 'everything is permitted', but this is extremism.

> Remember, neutral-chaos is just as dangerous as light-law in many circumstances. Hell, that's the entire point of the SMT series. Lawful good isn't all it seems to be.

You got this partly right, anyway. Lawful is all about service, acknowledging a higher power and believing in it and the concept of being saved. The problem comes in when it begins meaning a strict hierarchy, "daddy/leaders know best", conformity to the point of becoming a Borg collective/hive mind with no free will, condemning those different to death in various ways and methods. Law is very scary.

More terrifying for MegaTen: they explicitly won the battle in the first SMT and the world in SMTIV is likewise Law as fuck.

But there is no "Lawful Good" in Megami Tensei.

On-topic, succubi in D&D are capable of being Neutral. Their half-human offspring can even be Good.

Also, I think they are usually used as assassins?
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>>31516261
>Evil is such a relativistic term, though

Not in D&D it isn't.

BoED/BoVD were shit, but one smart thing they did was remove all moral ambiguity from good/evil keywords. D&D good and evil are tangible forces like gravity, not matters of opinion.
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>>31516273
Well it seems i got my shit wrecked by your hot facts.

Well shit, time to emulate megami tensei.
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>>31516097
In D&D, devils were angels who turned evil because they had to to effectively fight demons but they stayed lawful.
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>>31516273

I know that there is no good/evil dichotomy in MegaTen, only a never ending sea of grey.

But you gotta talk down at the D&D and Christfags level to facilitate communication somehow.
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>>31516261
>Evil is such a relativistic term, though. My good could very well be your evil

In general I agree, but in D&D good and evil are empiracle aspects of reality, you have beings literally composed of good.
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>>31516261
While we're on the subject.

Let's say that I'm in a party of heroes, and that I'm hellbent on getting rid of every and any powerful evil beings that plague this world...

... so I can rule? Not necessarily through classic evil means such as world conquest, but per example by calling kings out on their corruption, slaying them, and claiming myself queen in their place.

Am I evil, because in the end, all I'm doing is for my own sake?

Am I neutral, because I'm driven by my ambition?

Am I good, because my actions wil probably make the world a better place?
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>>31516336

Evil, as for your neutral and good examples, you're considering the ends justifying the means....
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>>31513977
>mfw the wizard summoned one and made the binding contract "do whatever you want just don't screw with me"

...Why would anyone summon a demon and then not give them any kind of orders?
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>>31516336
yes
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>>31516273

No. The true endings for every SMT game is always the neutral ending. The sequels always assume the neutral ending for the game prior to it.

SMT4 drives this home with blasted and infernal Tokyo. One was where the prior character chose the law path, the other, chaos.
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>>31516356
He might have an uncorruption fetish.
ONLY 1 TAG ON EX FOR THIS
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>>31516356
What part of 'wizard' don't you get?
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>>31516074
>You get a gawky, flat-chested awkward teenage succcubus
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>>31516336

The scenario you described would make your actions good by default regardless of your motives. If you're killing Fantasy Hitler (and don't engage in undue cruelty while doing it), it doesn't matter why you did it.

What does matter is your attitude towards good and neutral beings, which presumably exist in your world unless it is some weird Ravenloft shit.
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>>31516434
WHERE DO I SIGN UP

SERIOUSLY GUYS

I WANT THIS

THIS IS LIKE A WAIFU MATERIAL PILE-UP
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>>31516434

"Ah... um... w-wanna h-hang out or something, m-mortal?"
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>>31516455
And I want to play one.
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>>31516446
>>31516354
Gentlemen, we have a disagreement.

Also, I would use them for what they're worth, and if they did well, I'd remember their names if I need to use them again. Of course, I'd return the favors, and I wouldn't be cruel with those who failed me - gotta preserve my PR.
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>>31516200
But that's wrong. You can be completely selfless and still evil if, say, you champion evil by hunting down good heroes. Evil isn't about selfishness any more than good is about selflessness. Evil is about causing Evil, good is about causing Good and avoiding anything that would cause Evil.
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>>31516478
Maybe we could arrange something. Come see me after class.
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>>31516499
>use them for what they're worth
I'm gonna go ahead and agree with anon number two, the way you're phrasing things makes it really really sound like this character is Evil, or at least Worryingly-Ruthless Neutral.
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>>31516499

Sounds like a textbook Neutral tyrant then.

D&D morality is generally not that interested in what your brain thinks, only in what your hands do. Evil is to cause suffering. Good is to alleviate it.
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>not having an Incubus familiar when your character is male
>not playing off your course machoism, trembling ineptitude or smug superiority against his sauve smoothness
>not developing into a complex character relationship as you learn more about each other and get through things together
>not getting caught by the party in 'coincidentally compromising' scenes
>not avoiding admitting growing close
>not always looking out for each other
>not playing out your breaking heart when the Incubi betrays the party to his master/struggles/succumbs to the evil that composes him
>not making your character's goal to bring his fury down upon hell and rescue his friend
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>>31516455
>>31516473
This needs some art.
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>>31516336
Your chaotic neutral which can really be summed up by looking out for your self, but not going full evil to do it which is NE
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>>31516567

Pic related is now your familiar!
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>>31516524
>Evil isn't about selfishness any more than good is about selflessness

To clarify, selfishness is evil, but evil isn't necessarily selfish. Likewise, selflessness is good, but good isn't necessarily selfless.
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>>31516558
>>31516560
>>31516582
Alignements. How do they work?

That being said, I'm phrasing the things as my character thinks them. But then, her actions contrasts sharply her thought, since she put on a mask pretty much permanently.
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>>31516534
>after class
>implying school uniform
Y-yes sir.
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>>31516434
You mean the best succubus
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>>31516582

Chaotic Neutral is typically the game-ruining lol-so-random idiot alignment. If the guy wants to overthrow an unjust rule to set in place his own, somewhat less unjust one, that strikes me as lawful neutral or true neutral.
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>>31516621
And just like that, Astarotte x Kodomo no Jikan.
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>>31516611
Too confident
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>>31516619
I'm just saying that the way you're talking about this, it sounds like as soon as the category of "things that are in her way" includes good and/or innocent people she is going to turn evil.
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>>31516434
>>31516455
>>31516626

You do understand that they can change their physical form to look like anything humanoid, right?
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>>31516676
But they can't change their personalities. Well of course they can act, but then it's just like paying a hooker to act like your gf, there's a feeling of fakeness.

Also, let us dream plz.
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>>31516649

No, chaotic neutral is the alignment of assassins and the like. They do what they do for whatever reason, and they could decide to fuck over their clients and turn them in or kill them later.

Then again, I never really liked the alignment system as their "morality" is set in stone and not relativistic.
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>>31516667
This one might be more to your liking temperament-wise, maybe a little young...
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>>31516619
They don't, really.
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>>31516658
I don't know it sir. Perhaps you could illustrade with screencaps?
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>>31516706
>but then it's just like paying a hooker to act like your gf, there's a feeling of fakeness.
Have you ever been with a proper escort?
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>>31516669
That's what she'd do... if she wasn't scared shitless of breaking the illusion for an instant. Burn a village, and if a single survivor gets out, the Empire she spent decades building will crumble just the year after. Or at least, suffer a violent blow. So she doesn't. She tries to get rid of the village through another way, per example by making people slowly go away from it through offers and stuff like that.

Or, say, if a natural disaster that she has absolutely nothing to do with must happen, she'll direct it towards the small village that bother her, bullshitting her generals so they'll let her do it, then offer shelter to the families as soon as she orders said disaster to be redirected, hopefully saving everyone.
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>>31516749
Of course, dear. Screencaps incoming.
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>>31516414
>uncorruption

There should be a better word for this... Expurgation? Purification?

Anyway, the concept of turning a wicked companion to the path of virtue is an old standby, as anyone who did the Viconia romance can attest.
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>>31516649
>>31516619
Alignments are dumb but I think the best examples of CN would be like jack sparrow or eddy of ed edd and eddy, they do what they want and they do it for them selves
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>>31516793
Thank you master.
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>>31516706

And succubi are the best actresses and liars in the world.

You have to assume that anything you think you know about them could very well be false. Everything.

Trust me, I put on the innocent act a lot around guys. Just mix it in with a little bit of a show of experience and vulnerability, and quite a few guys fall for it. Well, not all guys. You just have to know what parts of your personality to accentuate and which to subdue.
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>>31516729
Spot on you might just make honor roll this semester for such fine work
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>>31516793
Think nothing of it.

This is Lotte. She's a loli succubus, that despise men, and is completely tsundere for the MC.
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>>31516807

>Chaotic Neutr
>Jack Sparrow
>Ed, Edd, and Eddie

Oh god, the EE&E is dead on.
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>>31516820
>And succubi are the best actresses and liars in the world.

Keep in mind that we are talking about a "lesser" CR 2 Succubus, not a full-fledged CR 7 one. This one has yet to earn her wings.
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>>31516852

You assume that she's even showing you her true form. Fools. Trust nothing they show or tell you. They are far stronger and more experienced than they let on.
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>>31516880

If she was more than CR 2 I wouldn't have been able to summon her with Find Familiar.
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And this is Kokonoe, the sluttiest loli ever, and the embodiment of the dreams of lolicon all over the world. She's actively trying to seduce the MC, a.k.a her teacher, who has a hard time resisting her advances. Just to emphasize, in the picture, she's in a corridor.

Now do you see the similarities between these two girls and you, dear?
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>>31516895
Or maybe she let you do it, because she wanted to fuck your mind and, possibly, your body?
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>>31516904

Asuha > Lotte.

Okay, she's technically half-succubus instead of full-blooded succubus.
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>>31516844
I wonder how she might get over her dislike of men.

Nice negligee.

>>31516904
I see she knows how to change without fuss when she needs to.

Yes, I do sir.
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>>31516524
>>31516614
Thats factually incorrect according the the classic nine point alignment
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>>31516952

Aaand forgot my pic!
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>>31513977
Table? Mind sharing?
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>>31516820
We don't want innocent though we want sex deamon tomoko and I can't see even a deamon willingly acting like her
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>>31516895

Really now? What's to stop a fully developed succubus hearing your summoning spell, show up pretending to be the CR2 version and pretend to be bound to you?

Then, she'll slowly work her magic, subtly manipulating the Summoner to her own machinations. Hell, most succubi have mental linking powers that are very similar to those of a familiar. You would not be able to readily tell the difference.

Then, she'll slowly manipulate you without spells, relying upon charisma and social manipulation, turning you inwards to her own machinations. But, as soon as you linked, your soul was already slowly being corrupted.

You are attempting to summon a highly intelligent, highly manipulative and deceptive demon. You cannot afford to assume *anything* about her.

Yes, I'm *that* DM.

Do you know how much free shit I have gotten over the years by wearing a pushup and fiegning ignorance on things? Men fall for this shit without supernatural powers. What makes you think you could overcome this when the woman in front of you does?
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>>31517015
I shouldn't admit it over the internet, but actually I never read Astarotte, only the what, maybe four first chapters. Then I grew bored. Too much clich├ęs and slice of life. Does it get better? Because if it does, I'll need to read it.

As for Kodomo no Jikan, I only watched it. I know the manga's way better, though.

>>31517034
We do want some innocence though. Some shynss. Some "P-please be g-gentle".

Sidenote, if a boy asked Tomoko to have sex with him, she'd probably faint.
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How succubi work:

>Succubus has her way with a guy (most likely a young man during his sleep. Wet dreams and all that)
>Changes to incubus
>Has his way with a girl, shoots the semen gathered as a succubus into her
>???
>Demon babies!
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>>31517045
>>31516478
Wanna join the classroom?
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>>31517045
>implying i'm not evil
>implying wizards have/care about sex
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>>31517115
Yes please, would you direct me?
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>>31517177
Of course, that's what's a teacher to do for his pupils. Although we both know who's really in charge here.
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>>31517115

Classroom? What?

>>31517116

That's the beauty of it. You won't care in the beginning... but that will all change and you won't even see it happening to you.
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>>31517216
Of course we do sir.
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>>31517222
'tis a classroom for clumsy teenage succubi. Although technically, if you joined it, you'd be the teacher (read: GM).

Also, if I had time for it, I'd write something about the battle of wills of a succubus and an unaging wizard. This can only end up with cooperation of both parties.
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>>31517083

It doesn't really get much better, the whole series capitalizes on the tsun-tsun relation between Lotte and Naoya, and the double entendres and awkward situations of him being (almost) the sole male in the series and surrounded by amorous and scantily clad females.

I personally enjoy the manga, but it's a "disconnect all higher thought processes and laugh at the silliness" kind of fun...
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>>31517262

We can change that you know. All you need is a steady job and time.
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>>31517222
>Implying my race is capable of having sex for pleasure
>implying i'm not undead and therefor lack a dick
Now stop trying to take my wizard powers a way I waited 30 years for these
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>>31517261

Sorry, a bit too creepy for me. And seduction isn't quite something I can teach textually. It's very in the moment and intuitive.
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No, it's only okay if the player is a girl

In fact everything it's okay if the player is a girl, even the most depraved magical reamls are a-ok when they're made by a girl

Such is life
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>>31516414
What's the tag I need to know, it's my fetish
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>>31517262
Why the fuck do I see traps everywhere since yesterday. Not that I mind.

>>31517271
Glad I didn't read it then. I'm not a big fan of tsunderes. Conversely, I'm all over yanderes.

>>31517325
A shame, really.
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>>31517045
Familiars have an empathic link. Can't fake that, doesn't work. Sorry.
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>>31517357
by 1 tag I meant 1 entry in the tag anon

Time to visit /d/ and make your fetish known, for the greater good

Succubi into angels by the power of paladin cock for holding hands leg lock and missionary position
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>>31517314

>implying that she won't use you for other means to fulfill her goals

Wizards. Think it's all about them. Hah.
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>>31517354
Oh my god. You made me imagine a whole new level of despicableness. A level so high, it stops being despicable and starts being funny. The ultimate combination between the most magical realmiest character, and someone that's forgiven for everything and only ever do good things and has no flaws whatsoever.

Magical Sues.
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>>31517388
... It's not exactly this that happens in it, but I advise you to read "My balls".
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>>31517407
Has anyone ever paid a prostitute to play D&D with them?
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>>31517388
Oh rip, that's even worse, i'm pretty sure I already read it then too

I've already looked on /d/ and stuff

You know it, I'll have to put that in one of my games sometime
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>>31517385

She doesn't have to!

Profane Gift (Su)
Once per day as a full-round action, a succubus may grant a profane gift to a willing humanoid creature by touching it for 1 full round. The target gains a +2 profane bonus to an ability score of his choice. A single creature may have no more than one profane gift from a succubus at a time. As long as the profane gift persists, the succubus can communicate telepathically with the target across any distance (and may use her suggestion spell-like ability through it). A profane gift is removed by dispel evil or dispel chaos. The succubus can remove it as well as a free action (causing 2d6 Charisma drain to the victim, no save).
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>>31517385

Telepathy, 100ft.
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>>31517438
No, but it sounds like a great sitcom waiting to be made
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>>31517438
No, but now, someone will. Shall it takes several years.
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>>31517481
Can't wait for the omega Pasta.


>Freudian D&D with the psychologist as the DM
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>>31516039
>being worried about traps
>not diving right in and taming them
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>>31516261
>Don't trust those LG aligned folks.
>he doesn't trust his friendly neighborhood paladin

Scum detected
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>>31517502
Man, it will be so awkward even greek letters won't start do describe the sheer cringiness of it.

On the other side, the laughs that will be had.

>>31517541
>Halfling honor
If you go in the Astral Plane, be a dear and bring me my sides back.
Also, don't you move, I have the perfect thing for you.
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>>31517464
The caster still won't be fooled. A familiar and it's master share a specific link that comes from the binding ritual, and sharing a piece of soul or whatever nonsense. The caster can feel what the familiar is experiencing, loosely. Even if you could fake that, which telepathy doesn't, it would be a dead give away that the succubus wasn't a real familiar.
>>31517462
I don't see what that has to do with anything.
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>>31517561

I am hardly scum, you watch your tongue!
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>>31517601

Okay, keep believing that. Don't worry, she's totally your thrawl.

Look, I'm not judging you for wanting a succubus familiar. Just be aware that there is a rather unbalanced power dynamic that may or may not end up biting you on the ass.

...besides, being bit on the ear feels so much better!
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>>31517541
>>31517587
Here: http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/shia/198238/Tower-of-Traps-page-1

NSFW link, of course.
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>>31516563

It's magical realm/erp level, but I've had a fantasy of late for a sly, seductive incubus that changes its appearance and gender based on its temporary master's or mistress' desire, as well as the incubus' own whorishness.
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>>31517612
Where does this come from, might I ask?
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>>31517805

Manaworld comic/pay per access site. But you can find it on Sad-panda and other sites.

Character is Syx.
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>>31516563
u a poof m8?

Your story sounds cute
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>>31517687
>Okay, keep believing that. Don't worry, she's totally your thrawl.
>she's totally your thrawl.
>thrawl

Thrawl (plural thrawls)

(archaic) A stone slab or shelf used to keep food cool in a pantry or larder in the days before refrigeration was domestically available.

I... What?
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>>31517845

Mispelling of thrall.

Or you use the succubus to keep your dairy products fresh.
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>>31517867
Cowtit's succubi with Succubi conversion COC milk

YES
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>>31517845
>>31517867

Sorry, my phone autocorrected thrall....
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>>31517845
>>31517867
>not stuffing food in your succubi
>not licking chocolate on her naked belly
>not drinking juice out of her mouth
>not eating salad fruits between her breasts
>no pork ribs cunnilingus

pleb
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>>31517607
That's exactly the sort of thing a Paladin-hating scum would say...

>>31517751
I appreciate this contribution, Anon. Will peruse in greater depth later.
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PORK CHOP SANDWHICHES
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>>31517918

Hating paladins is not a crime! They are not welcome in my home, nor will they receive my assistance on any matter!
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>>31517957
Is hating the agents of Justice an Evil Act? What if it never rises above the level of a passing thought?
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>>31517988

We just want to be loved, leave us alone!
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>>31518112
Go back to sucking ant dicks
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>>31513869
I played a sorcerer with demons blood. He didn't have a very high opinion of demons, mainly because he knew exactly what they were like.

He had a succubus, which he hated because he was a purityfag and a pedophile.
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>>31517918
No problems. I'm here for that. Now get in the classroom.
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>>31518253
>purityfag
>pedophile
Phoenix complex alert
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>>31518253
>/ss/uccubus run Orphanage


Oh god, this is the hottest idea ever
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>>31513372
is it a futa succubus?
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>>31517105

Church canon since the 14th century.
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I just want to summon a cute incubus familiar who wants to be a succubus. Is that so wrong /tg/?
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>>31517116
Yeah, better use the incubus/succubus to fuck the local lords for cash/titles.

It get's to fuck bitches and get demon babies, wizard get's smolah, better friends will never be seen.
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Or darkest, if it's a Classic out to kill you succubi.

I mean, imagine this scenario
>Orphans are brought upstairs one by one for "punishment" if they do wrong in the household
>Succubi rapes them to death them flays their skin or puts them in the Generic orphan slop stew
>Or castrates than, and puts infected bandages on the wounds to let them slowly die as they are magically bound to the naughty corner in the presence of the other children, bound by geas to experience the pain of castration if they try to interact with them.

>Orphange's basement is host to a portal to the nine hells or abyss or whatever.

>PC's can come back and discover it to go in and close it at epic level
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>>31518452
Well, "incubus wants to be a succubus" might be an overly easy problem to solve, since (in/suc)cubi can do that with their basic shapeshifting abilities.
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>>/ss/uccubus
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>PC's face when they find the kids remains
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>>31517083
>Sidenote, if a boy asked Tomoko to have sex with him, she'd probably faint.

>What a cute lips you have, I bet you must give the most awesome blowjobs.
>Y-y-you too!
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>>31518353
I like it.
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>>31518462
>> this is the reason for doing it.

Captcha
>> his amused
Yes, for the emperor.
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>>31518651
>The ones that come out of the orphanage are epic level Blackguards with Oedipus complexes
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The fuck happened to this thread ?
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>>31518728
I think /d/ showed a up
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That's silly. Why would you want a succubus familiar, when instead you can have an angelic familiar who's a follower of Lymnieris?

>Alignment: Lawful Good
>Temples: brothels, convents, graduation ceremonies, sacred areas where rituals of adulthood take place
>Worshipers: adolescents, the avowed chaste, prostitutes, unwillingly engaged couples
>Minions: guardian nagas, nymphs, unicorns

>Obedience: Lie on a hard, flat surface wearing nothing but a cowl. Concentrate on the feeling of the surface and the air while achieving sexual release without touching yourself. Healing spells you cast heal 1 more point of damage per die.

>16th-level power: Rite of Passage (Sp): You gain the power to usher others into a new state of being. Once per day, you can cast greater polymorph on a willing creature. The duration of this effect is permanent until you or the target dismiss the effect or you use the ability again.

>20th-level power: Undo Maturation (Su): Once per day with a successful touch attack, you can rewind the sands of time for a single creature, causing the target to revert to the previous age category, taking all the appropriate penalties to mental ability scores without any of the benefits to physical ability scores. If the target is an adult, it gains the simple young creature template. If the target already has the simple young creature template, it rejuvenates even further, reducing all its ability scores by 2 (to a minimum score of 1) and decreasing its size by an additional step.
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>>31518728

Well, we were talking about succubi, what did you expect?
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>>31518693
>Writing note for next campaign
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>>31518783
>Blackguard joins party
>So, what's your goal in life Urgol-thum?
>To find my mother...
>AND IMPALE HER ON MY SPEAR
>Table fall silent
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>Why in the multiverse would a succubus wizard want a human as a familiar?

Maybe the summoning went a little haywire...
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>>31518814
>Guys, is he talking about fucking her or killing her?
>Yes.
>Or?
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>sexual release on a hard flat surface
>Undo maturation
>adolescents, the avowed chaste, prostitutes, unwillingly engaged couples

wtf/10 would not worship

Let's find an Earth Mother goddess with big hips and sassy clerics instead
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>>31518899
>denial
>/ss/
not a kinks for everyone, but I'd take her over a NTR deity...
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>>31513977
>It's always perfectly okay to have a succubus familiar.
>uses a slut as reaction face
Bring back Chihaya.
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>>31513372
Sure lets go with that.
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Alright, so it's a world where succubi go through a phase of teenage clumsiness, then earn their wings, and sometimes hijack the "find familiar" spell to purposefully bind themselves to a human wizard that they'll be able to control.

Now of course, there are the few happy couples: the cute succubus that grew up under the monitoring of an actual good-willed wizard, and the grown succubus that decided to play fair with the wizard that summoned her.

But then, there are also the wizards that are reduced to slavery, and the teenage succubi that are abused by their masters, which lead to violent clashes between the two - examples include the succubus orphanage.

Please, /tg/, continue. This is getting intereseting.
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>>31513528
>raping a heterosexual is cute
Yurifags are fucking disturbing.
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>>31518996
What about a demon that denies it's origin so hard, that it walk the line of Limbo?

A demon that fought so much against it's desires, that it became a Master of his nature.
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>>31519012
Trust me, there even worse in person.

>Ask him why he likes Yuri

>They can never give me a straight up answer, just this vauge BECAUSE IT'S NICE and goes back to observing intently.
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>>31519134
Man, that's sounding a lot like the succubus had a fall from grace or something.
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>>31519012

Errr... That's more rapefags than yurifags. I mean, consensual relationships between lesbians is the norm, you know...
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>>31519153
>>Ask him why he likes Yuri
>>They can never give me a straight up answer
pun intended?
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>>31519206
>That's more rapefags than yurifags.
You act like theres a difference. Most yurifags think that girls cant rape other girls and that its just another expression of love between girls. Its fucking creepy
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>>31518820
I hate that series so much for wasting all of its potential on retarded bullshit and for having one of the worst MCs of all time.
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>>31517222

I'm sorry, but that behaviour is Evil, miss, and I am going to have to smite you now.
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>>31519271
LNs are better. Or so I've been told.
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>>31519156
If an angel can fall a succubus can rise
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>>31519358
They're better than the anime but still fall prey to the exact same problems. Plus the only translation we got was a trainwreck from people who don't understand translating or editing at all.
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>>31519239
>ever doubting the purest form of love

Anon a shit. If the rape is yuri, the rape is pure and good and blossoms into love.
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>>31519413
Like I said, /u/boats are scum.
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>>31519378
Angels tend to fall due to grand cataclysmic and mythological events.

A succubus would not rise to be some shoddy mortal's waifu.
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>>31519430
The fuck is a /u/boat? Some kind of specialized naval german yuri?
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>>31519323

I take it you've never truly felt the touch of a woman, hmm? How pathetic.

Have fun with the smiting and your morality. I'm going to continue having fun.
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>>31519134
Alright, so we have, for both sides:

- Those that live happily ever after ;
- Those that get abused (and, incidently, those that abuse) ;
- Those that enact revenge ;
- Those that prefer the other side and rise/fall.

Yep, I'm totally running a succubus-focuse campaign now.
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>>31519600
I could get behind this.
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>>31519413
Incorrect.
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>>31519571
it's loud, it's big and it shits torpedoes.

And it's undoubtedly always full of seamen ready to eject.
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>>31519571
Like fa/tg/uys, but for /u/. They are also an insidious bunch who try to sink all ships that aren't yuri shippings
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>>31519571
No, just a retard from /a/ who doesn't like yuri.
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>>31519631
>confusing your normal ships with your fapping ships
What a womanly mistake. Those fuckers are no better than those freaks who ship Thor and Loki.
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>>31519631
But a lot of the quests have straight, asexual or bi protagonists nowadays.

Besides the one that's explicitly running on /u/
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>>31519271
you better be talking about saito.
but really,
here, have some gold.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8903072/1/Halkegenia-Online
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9581483/1/Halkegenia-Online-v2
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10063397/1/Halkegenia-Online-v3

nothing like an ISOT to make full use of a settings potential.

Louise is best girl.
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>>31519618
Too bad I can't run stuff before summer comes, then.

But here, have my fake mail. If you're interested ini this, I'll run it. In months, granted, but I'll run it.
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>>31519662
>Those fuckers are no better than those freaks who ship Thor and Loki.
They are essentially one in the same, only /u/boats tend to stick only with anime.
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>>31519669
Yes, Saito. He's so bad that I prefer absolute faggots like Kirito to him, for fuck's sake, and I hate SAO with a passion.
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Hey can someone do me a favor and post the cap of the paladin that was too dense to know the demon wanted to have sex whit him
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>>31519239
>Implying girls can rape other girls
>Implying girls can rape
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>>31518679
Hey, those are ingredients for suicide!
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>>31519782
>what is strap-on
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>>31519714
getting mad because kirito is a fag is a little over the top, I mean, hes a 14 year old kid from modern japan, and has in common mostly with those crazy koreans that obsess over starcraft only this guy with rpgs, what the hell do you want with him?
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>>31519782
Tumblr pls
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>>31519841
>Still implying it's rape if the aggressor is a girl

Rape is an expression of misogynistic hate and patriarchal male privilege. Women categorically cannot rape.
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>>31519239
I'm not sure if you're the bait or if he is the bait or if both of you are bait.

But one thing is for certain, learn to take a fucking joke. "Women can't rape" thing didn't even come from /u/, it came from /r9k/ and /pol/
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>>31519862
raccoonsexdungeon.tumblr.com
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>>31519782
So holding a handgun to someone's head and making them do sexual things to you against their will wouldn't be rape? Weird.
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>>31519662
I bet you think these two aren't falling in love with eachother.
I'mplying I masturbate to yuri
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>>31519887
Brb not raping people
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>>31519887
I guess he means it could be categorized as sexual assault...
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>>31519901
It would be better if you did.
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Does an angel fall if she come to love a human being?
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>>31519935
Oh shit I forgot angels.

Well, definitely not Love is pure. Lewdness too, weirdly enough.
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>>31519935
Depends on the circumstances and, just as importantly, on the setting. Like, I think that happened in some version of Abrahamic mythology, but I've only heard it secondhand so I dunno.
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>>31519901
>being into lesbianism for anything other than masturbation
Oh, I see, you're one of those sick fucks who likes stories to revolve around romance instead of romance being a side element of the story.
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>>31519850
Kirito's problem isn't even necessarily that he's a bad character. It's that he's a bad character who has Mary Sue attention black hole syndrome and so the story is written so that he takes all of the attention away from everyone and everything more interesting than him.
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>>31519935
Nephilm, bro. Enoch went and murdered their asses for loving too much.
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>>31519926
the problem really is that I like D/s and consent play and most yuri is just not brutal and soul crushing enough, I mean theres a little sure, but the closest thing to the kind of stuff I like would to read is stuff like gurenki if it payed more attention to the MC's feelings on being enslaved.
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>>31519970
assuming what someone likes and doesn't like over the internet is pretty stupid anon, but completely within the range of your exhibited retarded behavior.
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>>31519969
>>31519991

I guess heaven need to get crusaded upon so angels can love, too.
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>>31519999
That whole thing with everyone forgetting the MC after the sister/mother/doll died was soul crushing.

Seriously being forgotten by everyone you've ever known by the end of the plot is awful, doubly so if it's a result of saving the world.
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>>31519982
wont argue with that, but thats kind of every MC ever in anything, especially LNs though, pretty much every anime, ln, whatever reduces the women around the mc to his sluts and rarely pays attention to them except with how they relate to the mc, and all the men will invariably be joke characters that are bros but don't get any. its a disgusting formula, and the only reason I really enjoyed SAO is because its like .hack but without the suck of the ending.
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>>31520042
If you thought that was bad, I hope to god you never play Nier.
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>>31519571
>it's some kind of loli battle machine
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>>31520050
>but thats kind of every MC ever in anything
No. Nooooooo.
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>>31520024
Wait... this is glorious.

In addition to all the succubi war, there's also an angelic civil war between those that want to be able to be with humans, those that refuse, and those that do - and subsequently fall.
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>>31520042
didn't help that the whole thing just kind of ends right after it, but it seemed somewhat hopeful, like kiki and urara where going to hommando her memories back. but either way, the MC in this series could stand to be a little less retarded and a little more afraid of being collared, still, the beginning page where she pulls innefectually at it was really nice touch, but it never gets to the point where she cries about it.
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>>31520052
>not on systems I own
>unsure of status of emulators
I can't.
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>>31519880
>"Women can't rape" thing ... came from /r9k/ and /pol/
It's older than 4chan, actually. Way older. Chances are it originated in Antic Rome or some such.
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>>31520070

I know which side I'm taking
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>>31520080
Wasn't the whole point that she only had her memories sealed and that she was in love from before the manga began?

Kinda invalidates shit.

Also I heard the author dumped the manga to write yaoi
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>>31520068
cmon, you know its true, even in manga I like its true. Ranma 1/2 is my favorite, the mc is not a characterless hack and has motivations, opinions, flaws, etc, but still, the whole story is structured that same way, and it keeps going, from tenchi, to date a live, to familiar of zero to toratora, to shoukugan no shana (or at least the first half of it)
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>>31520107
but she doesn't display anything like that in the beginning, she reacts with comedic fear (its played for laughs) avoids creo, but otherwise doesn't make a fuss over it. thats not really repressed love, at least not to me, I'd think her being afraid and crying as such would be a big factor still, but she would find herself unable to simply run from creo.

and the author originally writes nothing but yaoi anyway, he probably abandoned it because yuri wasn't doing it for her.
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>>31520129
>cmon, you know its true,
counterpoint: Lawrence from Spice & Wolf
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>>31520084
Its for your own good. Nier is...painful, to say the least.
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>>31518994
There is gonna be so much succubus Shantae porn out there after 1/2 Genie Hero gets released....
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>>31520179
There already is quite a bit out there.
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>>31520170
And Shiroe from Log Horizon.
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>>31520170
exceptions are not the rule. 90% if not more anime follows this formula, Infinite stratos, hell even hentai prince and the cat stone, or kashimashi,
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>>31520158
True enough I suppose.

Still sucks that the author manage to get some genuinely heartwrenching shit then just ditched us.

I feel like what those failed experiments that always end up rising against and killing their creators feel like
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>>31520224
>>true enough i suppose.
I mean maybe I'm too into this kind of thing, so I cant claim to have no bias, but I just think this kind of thing, even if you sincerely loved the other person, should terrify you, giving everything to someone, your whole self. is not a trivial matter. and yeah, I do liked what little we got though, Creo is just a nice character design. and has enough flaws to not outright feel like she's too perfect.
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>>31520103
I can see the setting designing itself. I can see the PCs' characters. I can see the politic battle.

I WILL run this. That's settled.
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>>31520443

Look like this thread was useful for something
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>>31520284
To the average person I suppose. But maybe she's just really into whatever fetish you would list that as.

plus what the fuck you gonna do
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>>31520443
Just make sure there isnt any yuri
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>>31517262
>>31517302
>>31520521
Not your blog, nigga.
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>>31520713

Yuri is fine, stop hating
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>>31520746
Rape is not okay.
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>>31520752
Not all yuri is one sided.
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>>31520760
>Not all yuri is one sided.
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>>31520818
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>>31520806
But its not
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>posters in this thread
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>>31520713
Only if it's consensual. Three quarters of the NPCs wille be.
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>>31519156
>read the words fall from grace
>pop an enormous chub
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>>31520050
Bakemonogatari did a good job flushing out and characterizing the characters that weren't the MC. For a show/LN that's pretty harem-ish the chicks each get about as much screen time as the MC and are usually more interesting than he is.
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>>31519442
Pretty sure True Love is a cataclysmic event for Evil beings
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>>31521487
Then quit using /tg/ as yours Dennis
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>>31519600
>Some of them want to use you
>Some of them want to get used by you
>Some of them want to abuse you
>Some of them want to be abused
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>>31522847
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>>31516952
>half-Succubus
Is that even a thing in Lotte no Omocha? The father doesn't matter with Succubae, although it might matter with Asuha, as her father at least has the blood of an Incubus.
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>>31522878

>>Nips slipped in

Oh nooooooo.


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