The ruined cathedral becomes a meeting point for the members of the alliance. Guards outside work to disperse the crowd that had formed from the noise and the rumors. Steward had put emergency measures in place to prevent the whole structure from collapsing, and now he's using his earth magic - along with Valeria - to repair the outer wall."...I guess you earth mages are good for something after all," Arcturis grunts.Valeria raises an eyebrow at him. Steward doesn't respond - he just keeps working.Adavan walks in the doors of the cathedral. Donovan turns to him. "Adavan! You're alright!"Adavan stretches his arms, careful to keep himself covered with his robes. "I was blown clear of the cathedral. I think it knocked me out." He sends you a telepathic message. <It took me some time to regenerate, but at least I lived. Come speak with me later.>Yi Fang steps forward. His arm has somehow reattached itself. "Arcturis. You saw to what lengths they'll go. You saw the insanity. Perhaps Archon's sometimes-desperate measures have been thrown into new light for you."Arcturis glances at you. "I want to speak to Matthel. You have him secure?"What do you do?>dump Matthel on the floor>write-in
>>30341089bUY hEART sTONE tTIAN,
>>30341089>dump Matthel on the floor
>>30341089"It's too late for him to cause more harm now."Dump him.
>>30341123No.>>30341089>Dump Matthel on the floor."Why did I even decide to hear you out?"
>>30341089>dump Matthel on the floor"He may be disoriented by his experience in stasis - his confusion should be temporary."
>>30341089>>dump Matthel on the floor
>>30341089>dump Matthel on the floor>>30341123Can we not? It's not immediately useful and the xp would be better hoarded for erasure spam.
>>30341089>write inask if his Wind burn will be a problem, its pretty clear he has no qualms using it on us<Do you have means of holding him, he'll probably be a little shaken up after a stay in my Pocket>>dump Matthel on the floor
>>30341123Fuck that MP5 all the way.
>>30341123Where the fuck are we going to get raw Adamantium?We should spend that XP on summoning upgrades and Magic Power 5, goddamnit
>>30341123Let me copy-paste my response.That sure would have helped us here, asshat.Pointless waste of exp.We never need a huge hulking automaton.We never did.We never used those, we always fought ourselves.I don't understand your obsession with it, personally I'd go for the darkest shadow tree. with order immateria and other USEFUL things.
>>30341089>write-inHave him bring us to a mana pool so that we can gather some energy before we let him back out.We spent ourselves against Metatron, after all, and we wouldn't want to mess something up when retrieving Matthel due to exhaustion, after all.
>>30341123No buying now, wait for plot. we'll need our special moves later
>>30341089Dump matthel. Buy Magic Power V.We need more mana and regeneration guys, what were we out of the WHOLE fight? Mana.
Okay, so they're going to finish summoning Hyperion in a few days. That means we need to free Hecate first. The last key is in the Flints' vault. Adavan has seen it. So we should grad Adavan, go get the key NOW, and spring Hecate.
>>30341123Nope. We need the xp to erase Sandalphon and the entire goddamn sigil.
>dump Matthel on the floorTell every mage here to get ready to restrain him before we do.And tell someone to get our airship, NOW!
>>30341183>>30341170>>30341156>Magic Power 5This...
><It took me some time to regenerate, but at least I lived. Come speak with me later.>I hope he stole the key so we can deal with the parasite through Plan B) Release the Hecate!
>>30341192This the allies can fill us in later we free Hecate NOW
>>30341156Yes, that last fight might have gone better had we had more mana.
We have enough xp to buy mpV and save 10 for an emergency Erasure.That's what we need to do.And eating the water gem might be a good idea. 3d33 xp + having another shard to draw power from would be amazing.
>>30341089Dump him on the floor. Then excuse ourselves to go steal the last key with Adavan.
>>30341233I'd rather like to have a spiffy water elemental ally, though.
>>30341233Yeah no we're not eating that
>>30341089>dump Matthel on the floorI would actually like to start buying stuff up to eventually get Order Immateria.
>>30341192I think Adavan already stole the key and is on his way to do just that as we speak.Wish he waited for us to be there though.
If I may anons, lets not forget what the sage told us about flint's parasite. It can be removed in 3 ways: With fangs help, freeing Hecate, and third way I can't recall right now...
>>30341220>>30341211is it just me or is putting NOW at the end of your post come off as petulant as fuck
>>30341089IN ADVANCE:Please please please grab the last part of the dark-but-not-darkest-gray tree. The lack of a tree completion bonus is killing me. Light gray can come next.
>>30341233HIGHER DCs, and a second elemental might be good.
>>30341220>>30341213>>30341210>>30341192>>30341176I know we're all amped up from the battle, but for right now we need to debrief with the allies and secure Arland's entrance into the alliance.Step 2: Free Hecate. We'll need her help to fight against the Pentaverate. There is also the unlikely possibility that she is going to be stronger than us.Step 3: We need to hide Flint on Xile. It's the safest place in Venia, and Sandalphon needs Flint alive and on the sigil to summon Hyperion.
>>30341254If he's already got the key, then we can go now and free Hecate.Freeing Hecate is a way to rid Flint of the parasite, which will set back the ritual while they find someone new. Might buy us a few more days.
>>30341273IT WAS HIGHER DCS FOR THE NEXT ACTION AGAINST METATRON BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE TIMEIT'S NOT HIGHER DCS FOR THE REST OF THE QUEST.Stop lying just because you don't like the option.
fuck talking to matthel tell Arcturis we are taking the key and will be back within three hours and free Hecate, tell Fang to bring the fucking Black lady in might as well get this fucking party started everything has gone to shit anyway.
>>30341255I guess Hecate it is then.
"It's too late for him to cause more harm now," you say. "Just as a warning, he'll probably be...disoriented."You unpocket Matthel.>mana: 6/58The lord's son is dumped onto the floor. He's shivering. His hands slide over his face with a mad sort of desperation. His eyes go wide. He slowly props himself up.When he sees who he's surrounded by, his eyes go even wider."...what..."Arcturis kneels down to Matthel. "How long have you been working for Sandalphon without my knowledge?""I...I don't..."What do you do?>Try to control yourself.>You've had enough of this shit. Let the anger flow.>write-in
>>30341272Actually fuck that, mana power 5 all the way.
>>30341277add servant flint to fuck with the spell.
>>30341255Hecate likely can't help us without being at the Seal itself.I'm pretty sure all parts of the plan hinged upon us being at the right location to dismantle it.So we're fucked forever.
>>30341294>Try to control yourself.Let's not make a scene.
HearthStone Titan: Stride length of 20yards. Due to massive weight we shall use average stride length for walking because something like this most likely cannot propel itself off the ground in the sense of how we run (especially considering how it would shake itself apart by putting three times its own weight on each foot per stride). Assuming SM was using “stride” how I think we was as “distance between the two feet while walking” the average mans stride length is between 2.5-3 feet and the average height being 5ft 10in creates a rough estimate of half your height in stride (maybe a bit more but this is a golem so whatever). That leaves us with a forty yard tall (36.58 meters) (120feet) HearthStone Titan. Giving us a 10-11 story golem. And the Bots that are inside of it seem to be about 10-11feet tall consider SM said “They tower at least several feet above the largest humans you’ve seen. It also has a control room in its head and what seems like a “bay” or something like it for the bots in its torso.
>>30341294>Control ourselvesArcturis is about to spank his boy, let's try to stay in control.
>>30341294>You've had enough of this shit. Let the anger flow.
>>30341294>write-in>pick him up and punch him
>>30341277>Sandalphon needs Flint alive and on the sigilI don't remember this as all. The only thing he needs from flint is his light, and he is getting it.
>>30341294>You've had enough of this shit. Let the anger flow.Way to almost destroy your entire homeland asshole
>>30341294anger. all the anger
>>30341277>Sandalphon needs Flint alive and on the sigil to summon Hyperion.[citation need]
>>30341294>Try to control yourself.Ask peace for help. If we've learned anything it's that we can't be a raging chucklefuck all the time.
>>30341294>Try to control yourself.
>>30341294>Try to control yourself.I can imagine Shadow being so angry right now that he just starts vibrating or something.
>>30341294>>You've had enough of this shit. Let the anger flow.ANGER
>>30341301I'm pretty sure Servanting Flint would "fix" his problem, but it would also totally destroy his power level. Shadow would overwrite his Light powers and then we'd have a very shitty Shadow Knight instead of a Magic Jesus-level Paladin. Not the best solution.
>>30341294>Try to control yourself.>Fail miserably
>>30341294Excuse ourselves. We need to go talk with Adavan. Don't mention the key to them.
>>30341294Just teleport outside and be upset there.I don't even wanna see him right now.
>>30341307Stop using 'forever' and 'there's no way to fix this ever'. It kills plans and thoughts that might work.
Rolled 4>>30341294ask permission from his dad to rageTHEN RAGE
>>30341294Controlled and channeled anger.
>>30341315>>30341320Two threads ago Matthel told Arcturis about bringing Donovan down to the Sigil to complete it.
>>30341294Teleport outside and start whaling on everything while screaming out our anger.
>>30341294>>Try to control yourself.>write-inMaybe some subtle persuasion. Via terror."He seems hesitant to come clean. Perhaps I should secure him once more so we can continue this later."Guaranteed he starts either spilling the beans or railing against how we're an abomination the minute we imply that we can put him back in solitary.
Vote 1:>demonstrate self-controlVote 2:>BURN THIS RAGE AS FUEL FOR YOUR JOURNEY
>>30341294>>write-inFind Donovan. We need to get him secured.
>>30341336what's the alternative?
>>30341294>Try to control yourself.just barley>You've had enough of this shit. Let the anger flow.slowly, like a flame gaining fuel>write-in"Matthel, I saved you once despite myself because I believed you a good man. Donovan praised you as the only beacon his family ever had to offer him....BUT your actions here have case away any respect I held for you! And any mercy you receive from endangering him, Arland, and ALL OF VENIA will not be granted by me unless you do everything you possibly can to fix your MASSIVE FUCK UP or I will send you meet Metatron where ever his final resting place is!"
>>30341294"Answer or you go back in"Not even in the mood for his shit. Just consume.
>>30341367He's in the room with you now, safe and sound.
We need to focus on freeing Hecate. This now takes priority over everything else, because it is both necessary to counter Hyperion if he comes back and also is our best shot at stopping them from summoning Hyperion in the first place.
Guys, showing ANGER here would probably sway Arcturuis to our side and help with the reveal.
>>30341294>You've had enough of this shit. Let the anger flow."DO YOU NOT REALIZE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE! YOU HAVE STARTED A WAR THAT HAS BEEN OVER FOR 700 YEAR ALL OVER AGAIN! YOU HAVE KILLED YOUR BROTHER! YOU HAVE DESTROYED YOUR OWN HOUSE! AND YOU MAY VERY WELL HAVE DESTROYED THE WORD IF THIS CAUSES THE RIFT TO CRACK OPEN FURTHER""And you made me break my fucking hammer."
we should just start raping the guy in full view of everyone<LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DOOOO>
>>30341432>that last lineI thought I couldn't laugh anymore, anon. That was treasurable.
>>30341422>>30341432>>30341439lol. Edgemeisters detected
Can we get a listing of who owns what amount of Airships? Because you said that there were 27 at the beginning of the quest. But you said that Kelevere had 4 and the Ring City only had two, which doesn’t really seem to make sense considering their overall “power”. Shadow ate 2 at Evinbrook(one of the dukes, one of the Ring Citys), then destroyed the one we stole from the angels, but apparently they had another that one couldn’t jump giving them three. I am really confused and would like solid number on who owns how many of these things.
>>30341365I admit I'm a little disappointed, but we'll control ourselves.Just barely.
>>30341465Can we at least show some anger?It would be OOC as fuck to not.
>>30341465Why? Were you expecting us to explode at Matthel?
>>30341465I demand we be more than just a emotionless blob of nothing
>>30341465Make it so were visibly holding back our unrelenting all encompassing anger
>>30341458The numbers are decided but not all the names. I'll complete this and distribute it at the end of this thread.>>30341483Actually, yes.>>30341482>>30341485>>30341487You're going to show anger, just control it.
>>30341465I believe>>30341375 sums it up, start slowly and calm until we're inches from him and holding him by his shoulders shaking him and yelling
>>30341483because it would be in fucking character.
>>30341483I was looking forward to the RIGHTEOUS FURY.....that is my fetish....
>>30341485>>30341482He did say "just barely"...
>>30341465Can we still show distaste for him making us break our hammer?"I should have shoved it up your ass when I had the chance. Could have avoided this whole mess."
>>30341465Well yeah, in this light anything short of beating him to death and then consuming him demonstrates self-control.Also, restrained anger can be even more intimidating to deal with.
Rolled 19>>30341507Shadow's fury would be something to see....we haven't seen that in a while
>>30341502>>30341507On the one hand, we look like a cool cookie.On the other hand, we look like we don't really care after all.Choices, choices.
>>30341512Reminder to ask Hemmelus for some bottled Mana to take with us, that shit us usefull and can be easily stored in our pocket.
>>30341497>>30341365>>30341465yessss, let the anger flow through you. only when you have felt true emotion will your transformation be complete
>>30341541its more like were so fucking angry that we dont look mad at allthats when you watch the fuck out
>>30341549didn't mean to link that
Rolled 78Don't buy SHIT, we're gonna need erasure to deal with the Stage Two of this - either crashing the party, or kicking hyperion's ass
>>30341549Yeah, let's just buy a fuck load of mana potions off of him.Easy mana.
>>30341549Utility belt it instead. Pocket takes a turn to retrieve and costs mana.
>>30341572we can go giant and rip and tear everything forever
>>30341572Given that we have 35 EXP, we can buy Heartstone Titan or MP5 and still have enough for one use of Erasure.All we need to do then is give Sandalphon a hug.
Just wondering, what does Vampiria do with the wild elementals that it finds within its borders? because they own quite a large track of land and i can't imagine them hunting them like the angels.
>>30341458I bet Atlantus has quite a few airships. Since travel to and from their main city would be bitch considering it's surrounded by swam and forest.
>>30341572>>30341589I think we should spend 15xp and save 15xp for emergency.And for the love of all fucking shit, let's complete the Shadow tree for the bonus.
>>30341598probably uses them for magical research, most elementals are not sentient so who gives a fuck?
>>30341583But they're unstable as fuck. I think.>>30341604They have water mages and rivers. nuff said
>>30341598Speaking of that, have we even SEEN another elementalexcluding our shards
>>30341597If this battle has taught us ANYTHING, it's that MP is our lifeblood. Get MP5.
>>30341604and I bet they'd just love when the diplomatic rep of Haven gives them a shiny relic from Leviathan him/herself
>>30341612Wait, do we have 30 or 35 EXP? SM said 35 in the story post, but he may have miscalculated.
>>30341612I 100% agree with this statement.
We're going to get so fucking wrecked in the inevitable battle with Hyperion. I hope Sandalphon accidentally summons another fucking army of demons instead.
What I see shadow doing at this moment.
>>30341625spirit guy in the beginning, and maybe a water one at leviathans place.
>>30341628In agreement. Can we seriously just get it SM?
>>30341628No it isn't, it would have turned out the same if we had had full mana. We have and always will be best at Melee
>>30341637On the bright side, Hyperion's release may mean that we get our original power back. At the very least we can use all of our shards.
>>30341638I really hate that popular depiction of Hades. For so, so many reasons.
>>30341637We can just pull an us on himsplit him up and erase his memoriesits the true righteous path
>>30341653No.We're getting Heartstone Titan.
>>30341662Disney Hades is awesome, don't be hate'n
>>30341656Are you fucking kidding me? How many more options would we have had available if we still had some mana left during the battle with Metatron?>>30341677And you. What use is a giant robot going to be? Can it even fit in our pocket?
>>30341662kinda agree, it was okay for explaining greek gods to children but not a very good depiction overall
>>30341677wow anon you sure changed my mindthanks for deciding what all of us want!
I want /m/ to leave.
>>30341677I'll ask again - where are we going to find raw adamantium and Shadow Cores lying around? Do you think we really have the fucking time to make a Titan? Do you think a Titan will even slow Hyperion down for a second?
>>30341658now that's some wishful thinking right there.
>>30341628We're a Melee class. If you want spells then invest in the shadow magic tree. We're the Lord of Shadow, not earth or water. We have maxed out Melee and not magic.Mana is usefull but not the main focus.
>>30341677Not needed right now
>>30341705The raw adamantium will probably come from archon aor Steward.We don't need shadow cores, just raw adamantium.
>>30341677Haha nope. It's been demonstrated time and again that WE need to be stronger. It is not the time to be spreading ourselves thin.
Should we strawpoll what we should spend the exp on? And if we should save some of it for emergencies?
>>30341677It's an extremely pointless purchase. Like others have pointed out, we would benefit more from tree completion bonuses and other things that are immediately useful.
Rolled 62>>30341597>Titan or MP5 and still have enough for one use of Erasure.If there's ANYthing we've learned from this fight, it's that one might not be enough!FUCK SPENDING XP UNTIL WE NEED ITDeal with the CURRENT SHITSTORM before blowing away all our reserve-mana!>>30341612decent middle ground
You've had enough. You've gone to the end of the world and back, you've survived angels, demons, robots, and the mad dreams of the Archonium, and now you finally came full circle to do what you set out to do in the first place: help your friend.And this pathetic, traitorous, lying, brainwashed son of a bitch was the SOLE variable stopping you from finishing the job once and for all.Everyone is staring at you. You realize your fist is buried halfway in the wall next to you, pulverizing a section of of stone. Chips and shards of it plink off your arms."John," Steward says, "that is not a productive contribution to the structural integrity of the building."You ignore him, keeping your gaze fixed on Matthel. "Answer your father's questions," you say, "or I will put you back where you were and forget about you."Matthel crawls back from you, sliding across the ground until he hits Auriel's legs. Her lips wrinkle up, and she kicks him off her. Obis, remembering the time he spent in your pocket, rubs his sides, as if warming himself."Well?" Arcturis says."...since...I was young. When I went on the exchange program, with the Atlantians.""...that's over two decades." Arcturis closes his eyes. "Dammit, Matthel. Damn you to the Nether.""I did what I had to do!" Matthel shouts. His voice is hoarse. "You don't understand now. But you will. My actions will be validated. That thing!" Matthel points at you. "That thing is our enemy! Not me! Father -"The lights in the cathedral flicker. Your aura vibrates. Your fists are clenched. You take a step forward.Abigail wraps her arm around yours. <Shadow. I know...I know.>Her voice is a balm. You tuck her in closer, exchanging the anger for the comfort of her presence.Arcturis kneels down to his son again. "You answer my questions, boy, and you answer well. Where is the sigil?">con't
>>30341709Is it just me or does it seem like our most dangerous encounters have always been foes who use really powerful MAGIC?
>>30341706One can hope. It's hope that will be shot, burned, stabbed, buried alive screaming, while SM dances laughing on its shallow grave, but it's hope.
>>30341709It makes all of our spells more powerful, increases regeneration and a higher regen cap in addition to more mpit's the best option besides maybe paving way for order immateria
>>30341705Making it is instant.>>30341691Not many considering our magic is subpar right now, specially compard to angels.
>>30341709We are melee incarnate and finishing the shadow tree gets us one step closer to perfecting that goal.
"...I don't know for sure. Probably at the ring city.""What do they need to complete their spell?""...Donovan has to be physically present, inside the sigil. That will let them remove the shel'kath.""By killing him," Fang says."They won't take his life!""Says the traitor," Obis says. "Shut up already. We've already heard your version from John and your own dad. Not to mention the sage. Even he thinks you're screwy.""How can we stop the sigil?" Arcturis asks."How should I know? I never wanted to stop it.""We could just destroy the spell itself," Fang suggests. "Though, to get close enough and actually perform that task would be quite difficult. Not to mention we have an army at our collective doorsteps. And the Highest himself will be here. Tomorrow."Arcturis sits on his haunches, thinking.Do you have any questions to ask Matthel?>write-in
>>30341709that's retarded, we went Melee for HP and PLOT demanded it, even SM admitted this.we should continue to expand our magical abilities because we are basically maxed out on Melee anyway.
>>30341731>"Dammit, Matthel. Damn you to the Nether.""That's actually what I was just doing. Want me to put him back?"
Rolled 43>>30341728>Should we strawpoll what we should spend the exp on? And if we should save some of it for emergencies?Save ALL of it for Emergencies, go attack the ringed city now, consume the shit out of the angels there and stop the final ritual that will kill donovan.KILL DONOVANThe shael-kath will kill him to complete the hyperion summoning ritual!Stop fucking about with xp, and figure out how to stop it!
>>30341709And giant robots help with that how?Also, we didn't max out melee. We have a ways to go for it.
>>30341735But our magic is shit, and we always won with Melee
Rolled 80>>30341750>Do you have any questions to ask Matthel?"Why.""Why would you help slavers. why would you help people who literally bottle up the souls of people they don't like and force them""What could possible make you agree with people who do THIS?"*impressions of the soul-jars*
>>30341750Now could be the time to spill the beans
>>30341750"Sandalphon was coming here to watch the ritual himself, wasn't he? Not to negotiate at all. To watch Hyperion return."
>>30341737that's not hope, hope has a chance, what you are talking about is hopeless folly
>>30341760Strawpoll is easier to proxy than 4chan
I'd like to bring up a point last thread, where one anon made an interesting point about removing Donovan's Light magic by servanting him. Could we send a few mind message via spirit magic to Fang about that?
>>30341741>Not many.>What is the fucking entirety of the Water and Spirit trees.Also, would you kindly explain how we can use a giant robot in battles with fast-moving targets like the angels that have extremely powerful magic (read: ranged) attacks.
>>30341750<I'm going to kill Sandalphon. And there's nothing you can do you stop it, Matthel.>When he gets here, Erasure him.
>>30341750Is there a significant upgrade to Melee anywhere left int he tree? besides Tau?
>>30341750"Into the trash you go."Pocket him just to fuck with him and see him cower some more.
Okay, our fastest ways to stop the ritual would be to either free Hecate and allow her to remove the spirit based demon, or to enter the Ring City ourselves and make a big mess.
>>30341750"Why shouldn't I kill you Matthel? In the time it would take for anyone here to stop me, you can be dead, why Matthel, why shouldn't I?"
>>30341750>Do you have any questions to ask Matthel?No. I think we have heard all we need to from him.We need to get our fucking airship in this city AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
>>30341799Might be our best shot at this point. Doesn't hurt to ask at this point of being beyond fucked.
>>30341750So it won't activate without Donovan?That's good news, right?
>>30341750"I don't give a damn what you think of me, you call me an enemy but the world has labeled me as far worst simply for existing. Yet this "monster" as you called me cares more about this world than you can possibly comprehend, and YOU are the sole reason it has been allowed to fall even further into danger." *punch the wall/floor by him* "And if you were not the brother of my closest riend I would drag you to the Nether myself if it would undo this damage..... The Shadow is not the dark beast the Angels wish it to be, they call it so to validate their own needs and crusades. Hopefully one day you can realize that if the world is not lost to us"
>>30341750"Why would you think releasing an elemental of chaos would be a good idea?
>>30341786I'm also voting for this query.
>>30341750"How long has it been since you've thought for yourself? Do you even remember what it's like to not be dancing to the strings of an insane, trauma-riddled angel?"
>>30341807We are the Elemental Lord of Shadow. Not Water or Spirit. If you wnat magic then fucking use the shadow magic tree, that's why Nightblaze is so good, that's why that one shadow beam fucked up riazel when we were still weak as fuck.We've bought skills much more expensive than Shadow beam or whatever it was and they aren't nearly as effective.I'm sick of not focusing on what we are Good at, Shadow magic.I only wanted Heartstone Titan because it will help with the war. we can leave it with the army or just drop it in the middle of fucking Kan-abars capital city an let it fuck shit up.
>>30341837They need Donovan alive and in the sigil.They're going to kidnap Donovan Flint - tomorrow. Sandalphon is going to fucking take him in the middle of negiotations.Sandalphon won't give two shits about us or the Demon Lords or Arland.Donovan's heartbeat is the only thing from keeping Hyperion in the Core.We have to GET DONOVAN OUT OF ARLAND.
Since we are mostly melee focued I say pathing the way to the ORDER sounds like the best idea.If ORDER makes it so we are immune to all but magic. I wonder what it unlocks.
>>30341824I don't think we've told Fang we can servant people, he probably figured it out though since two of them spend a lot of time with him
>>30341887Our full power
>>30341883Or bring the Black Lady in.
>>30341883So... Pocket him until Sandalphon is dead and laugh and laugh?
>>30341883>claim that we're the result of an experiment that the Elf Queen and us did to ourselves in order to combat the Chaos spreading throughout Venia in order to protect it.>It's a technical truth and allows us to talk about the whole Order = Shadow element and everything else is Chaos thing and address the core issues Venia is facing.Just thought I'd bring this up from the last thread as a cover story for our identity. We can also say we lost our memories in the process and still be speaking the truth.
>>30341887I really want to finish dark-but-not-darkest gray and light gray off so we can get that delicious Order Immateria. DBND-Gray isn't a requirement, but it's making my need for tree completion fuck me in the ass.
>>30341880>I'm sick of not focusing on what we are Good at, Shadow magic.Doesn't really jive with your wanting a giant robot. Getting MP5 or Ray of Darkness works better.
>>30341887Finally someone who is reasonable.We never use those silly summons and automatons. All that we ever needed was wisp.
>>30341880SO. MUCH. THIS.I fucking want Eclipse because it it so dam good.
>>30341915Err...didn't mean to link to anything but whatever.
Yeah... I don't know why it never occurs to us to use our enemy's specific elemental weaknesses.We've got a whole bunch of crap.
>>30341915Nah, Hemmelus is bro enough. Arcturius loves his country enough.
>>30341750"How many of the Highest have you actually met? Were they saviors? Champions of Light all? In my interacvtions with them I met those who can see beyond to the person under the elements....but also barbarians who care nothing for the innocent, slavers without souls who bind others, blind fools seeking an end to battles that never existed, even the highest himself turned a blind eye to their sins because it suited his needs. Would Hyperions return be good or bad for the world is not my place to say, but ripping Venia asunder in the process is a mad mans dream."
Guys, would they know if we had the shel'kath removed from Donovan? If not, we could release hecate get it removed, let them take Donovan under the assumption he's still integral to the plan and use him to trace down where the sigil is in order to destroy it.
>>30341942To be fair, Metatron's sheer power in fire magic might have made our water magic useless.
>>30341942Because we suck at them compared to using what we are naturally good at.
>>30341942>light element servants>weak to shadow magicWELL GEE WHATAYA KNOW
>>30341961>>30341966Angels are weak to shadow by default, aren't they?
>>30341977Our most powerful Shadow spell is Cone of Destruction. Metatron shrugged it off like a boss.
Rolled 99>>30341908Just watch Donovan seppuku Just watch
>>30341920If you had read the rest of the post then you would see why.It is situational for the war, not to mention that thing would scare the shit out of the angels. and be a nice bargaining chip for the alliance. if we even need to bargain anymore.
>>30341995You can literally pinpoint the moment his heart tears in half.
>>30341994he did have the highest defense of any angel though
>>30341977YupI guess we haven't fought enough demons for them to realize otherwize
>>30341994Ray of darkness almost 1 shotted Raizel, who was like 9.and there's still Eclipse and whatever is off of it
>>30341999>scare the shit out of the angelsPuh-lease. Any one of the Highest could rip it apart. Drop it in Kan-Abar? So will the three or four demon lords.Not to mention, how do we transport it? Our pocket won't be big enough until we get *gasp* Magic Power 5.
All aboard the Xile train, if the angels can't reach him then they can't kidnap him
>>30342034Y'know... that place is still unfriendly.
>>30342025We don't have Ray of Darkness right now, though.
>>30342045not the palace that only Donovan can open and close
>>30342034Pretty much this.Donovan should fly to Xile in the Noiralev until negotations are concluded by which I mean, Sandalfaggot throwing a huge tantrum that Flint is safe from kidnappingIn the meanwhile, we should free Hecate and get MP5 and complete our Shadow tree for the fucking bonus
>>30342027No they couldn't we were pretty strong back then and we didn't even consider touching that thing.SM, Just how strong ARE those Steelstone Titans?>>30342027It's only 10 stories high (36 meters). we have 81 cubic meters of space
Man i cant wait until the post gametheres going to be some fun stuff we can do
Rolled 71>>30342015This is an accurate representation of Donovan's time at home
>>30342025No, your not remembering right. Eclipse was active when we shot Raizel, so all of his resistance was negated and shadow magic had double power. SM specifically said that he had a lot of shadow resistance normally.
Is that magical mirror still down there?Can we eat it?
>>30342060we almost do
Wait wait guys so what do we have to unlock in order to get to Order Immateria?
>>30342087it might have melted but couldn't hurt to check
>>30342083Oh yeah, then that's all the more reason to get Eclipse. All of the angels long built up Shadow resistance is for naught.
>>30342060We had it during the fight because of the dynamo overload mode thing. It unlocks everything up to Eclipse for a few turns.
>>30342105Physical Shadow tree.
>>30342071We were pretty strong, I'll admit that. Compared to the Highest, though, we were a fucking baby. And the demon lords are apparently even stronger.Also, a 36-meter height doesn't leave a lot of room for width and depth in an 81 cubic meter space, doesn't it?
>>30342087Slag.>>30342105Not for a long long long time. and lots of PLOT probably.
>>30342105The Physical Shadow tree (middle grey) is the only thing standing between us and OI.61xp total cost to complete that tree.Then Pure Darkness is another 20.Then OI itself is 60.So we need 141xp to unlock it. 106 more than we have now.
>>30342112Yeah, I know we had it then. We don't have it now, though.And IIRC, MP5 costs 25 EXP. The additional 7 EXP for Ray of Darkness would leave us unable to use Erasure.
>>30342122....You don't understand cubic space do you?
>>30342143Well, might as well start now.
>>30342105First we need to get pure darkness.To get that we have to finish the tree it's attacked to.When we then buy pure darkness if ORDER isn't blue then we have to buy that resistance back in order to unlock it.
>>30342143Well it's a good start.If we can consume another angel we might get another 30 for the pot.
>>30342155Yeah. Pure Darkness itself is really good. It lets us use all the abilities from the Physical Shadow tree even without actual shadows.So if we had it, we coulda Shadow Dominated Metatron from behind the rock wall.
>>30342144Using erasure to solve problems is extremely foolish anyway, and I support any expenditure of exp that will prevent people from foolishly doing it.
>>30342122I would say Demon lord is about equal to 5th highest if they were both at full strength.But in Army fighting Larger means much more combat capability. Ie: Golems. Not to mention Arcturius was impressed that Steward had them, AND our will be quite a bit stronger than a normal one. AND it will be Shadow + Earth which complement eachothers weaknesses nicely. Earth seems to resist fire and light quite well. And Shadow has beaten the Skysever many times.
>>30342069>Donovan should fly to Xile in the Noiralev until negotations are concluded by which I mean, Sandalfaggot throwing a huge tantrum that Flint is safe from kidnapping>In the meanwhile, we should free Hecate and get MP5 and complete our Shadow tree for the fucking bonusThere's also the idea that they may sacrifice one of their own angels with a sufficuently strong soul, with a new shal-kath, to finish the spell if they can't get to donovan.still.Our other option is to buy Impersonate, and use the mirror to 'report in' to Sandalphon.
>>30342148Neither do you, apparently. Assuming that the Titan is 36 meters tall, that stretches the Pocket into a long, thin box or cylinder that's at most 2.25 meters wide.
>>30342180We also could indefinitely regenerate Mana.
>>30342190>Using erasure to solve problems is extremely foolish anyway, and I support any expenditure of exp that will prevent people from foolishly doing it.Hey, it saved THE WORLD from Steward 002Also this anon has the right of things>>30342191>But in Army fighting Larger means much more combat capability. Ie: Golems. Not to mention Arcturius was impressed that Steward had them, AND our will be quite a bit stronger than a normal one. AND it will be Shadow + Earth which complement eachothers weaknesses nicely. Earth seems to resist fire and light quite well. And Shadow has beaten the Skysever many times.Figurng out how to *make* golems, and giving steward the ability to *produce new ones* is so fucking crucial to the war effort it trumps anything else.
>>30342155If we started saving up now we would probably die before we got to it. we need help NOW. We just plain are not strong enough.
>>30342192>There's also the idea that they may sacrifice one of their own angels with a sufficuently strong soul, with a new shal-kath, to finish the spell if they can't get to donovan.They considered using Angels, but something kept the spell from working with angels as the host for the Shel'Kath.Otherwise Sandalphon would've just slapped it on one of his mooks ages ago and we'd be facing down Hyperion already.
>>30342192>the mirrorOh yeah.We should eat that.>>30342199I think mana regen comes from the MPs, none of which are in the physical shadow tree.
>>30342190How is it foolish? It's our ace in the hole.
>>30342192Could that really work?If it was that easy I'm pretty sure a large percentage of the angels would gladly die to bring back Hyperion, considering the high rate of suicidal tendencies.
>>30342192SSandalphon said angel souls can't be used because their blessing fucks with it.
>>30342210Saving? We'd be spending it on physical shadow tree
I hope you are happy SM, you have forced me to eat my secret candy stash to avoid raging with the fury of a thousand suns.
>>30342222The mirror may well be slag, but I'd expect Metatron's ARMOR to have fared slightly better, considering its purpose.That's probably a good candidate for eating.
>>30342195You also do not understand that it isn't an actual "BOX" It molds into every single crack, crevice, space and opening to the point where it won't take near the space as its height.
>>30342222We regenerate Mana while in darkness. Guess what Pure Darkness does?
>>30342237I downed 3qts of vanilla-choc swirl in the last four hours, first from excitement and then the text two from stress.
>>30342246If that armor is still there it is going on the consume list.ORDER here we come!
>>30342257I hope it does what you're saying it does. I'm just doubtful.
>>30342253You know what? Fuck this.>>30341750SM, can our Pocket as it is now hold the Heartstone Titan?
>>30342208We can make Golems>>30342235The only thing worth buying is Army of darkness
>>30342266three quarts of ice cream? christ
>>30342253This is pointless, give it up. Hearthstone titan is a massive waste. CONSIDERING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE FIVE OF THEM. And hat we would never use it in combat. We got our allies, one titan won't make any difference.
>>30342279SM has a bad habit of not answering questions like this. He like our fighting. ;_;
>Pure Darkness - You can now use your shadow without a light source. Shadow attacks from stealth are just as strong as normal.Apparently we've been incurring some damage penalty to stealth attacks. Wish that shit would go away fast. PD pls.>Order Immateria: Physical attacks cannot harm you. Physical attacks with a magical component do only their magical damage. Significant bonuses to Shadow Attack, Light Magic Resistance, Stealth, and Magical Stealth.
>>30342257Allows us to use our shadow for attacks and stealth in thelight
>>30342233>>30342234That doesn't mean there AREN'T more light mages they can use if flint is unavailable!Also, yeah, eat metatron's armor and grab the mirror
>>30342305>Apparently we've been incurring some damage penalty to stealth attacks. Wish that shit would go away fast. PD pls.You weren't here form the beginning of the quest were you? he is talking about the shit we haven't using since before the first battle of EvinBrook. where we stab shit with our shadow.
>>30342310....SMHow the fuck does that work? We become SNEAKY in LIGHT?Like, I'm imagining this with my fried 1:30AM brain, some mote of shadow floating across a lightbulb scwaling "SNEAK SNEAK SNEAK" and everything doesn't feel like it should.
Adavan won't wait forever
"Sandalphon was coming here himself not to negotiate," you say, "but to see it for himself. Wasn't he?"Matthel shrugs. "I don't know.""...why..." You close your eyes. "Why would you help slavers? Why would you help people who literally bottle up the souls of people they don't like and force them to obey their every command?""I didn't believe that when you first told me, and I don't believe it now.""I was one of them," Ila says. "I experienced it firsthand. We couldn't tell anyone, because they commanded us not to. They had our souls, captive, torn from our bodies and kept in little jars in a sealed room under the city. Any of the other shadow mages will tell you the same.""It's true, Matthel," Donovan says. "I was there. I saw the souls released myself.""You're delusional," Matthel says. "Fooled by an angel with an agenda, and their illusions!" Matthel jabs an accusatory finger at Ila. "That's what they're best at, Donovan! Trickery! Traps, visions! You'd take the word of some shadow whore over your own brother?!"You step forward to punch Matthel, and it seems like you're in a race with Donovan for the honor - but then, someone you don't expect beats the both of you there. Young Bull's arm, hairy, sharpened with claws, catches Matthel across the chin. Even as you watch, the hair melts away, and it returns to a normal human arm.The werewolf leans over him and draws a long breath through his nose. "You're pathetic, and you smell it, too. If you so much as look at her again, you won't have to wait for you family to deal with you. I'll disembowel you myself."Everyone is taken aback by the display - Ila, especially. Great Tree pulls Young Bull back up. "You had your hit. Now that's enough of that.">con't
----------In short order, one of Hemmelus's students shows up with a magical device - a heavy set of stone bracers, handcuffs that double as a means of cutting off someone's magical power. They're latched around Matthel's wrists, and he's hauled off to the dungeons under the castle town.Arcturis turns to face all of you. "Sandalphon is coming. I wonder if we've pushed him too far."Fang shakes his head. "...no. Not yet. He's not going to invade...but I'm not sure what his strategy will be. But as long as he has that sigil in his pocket, we're all in danger. Not just Donovan.""You'll have a guard at all hours of the day and night," Arcturis says."Yeah." Donovan scratches the back of his neck. "I guess it's what we have to do.""But he's going to show up at the gates," Obis says. "Do we let him in, hear him out? Turn him away? I mean...you don't just tell the Highest to go back home. He might be our enemy...but if we can convince him to postpone things until after the demons are dealt with, maybe we can use his strength."You feel a hum in the air.Steward halts his movements, frozen in place. Valeria places a hand on the wall and closes her eyes. Hemmelus frowns."...what is that?" Abigail asks.The humming increases. It pulses. You can feel it.brummBrummmBRUUUMMMMA wave of power rolls through the sky, through the air around you. Everyone is still.It dies away."...that," Fang says, "is the summoning of the fourth demon lord.""Fuck," Obis says."There's another question we need to ask ourselves," Auriel says. "Can we actually afford to turn Sandalphon away?""Can we afford not to?" Fang counters."We have to be careful he doesn't try anything...but we might need his strength.""I have a theory," Vellik says. Everyone looks at him. "What...if Sandalphon is responsible for the demon lords?"Valeria looks puzzled. "I'm afraid I don't follow, your grace.">con't
>>30342373>"I have a theory," Vellik says. Everyone looks at him. "What...if Sandalphon is responsible for the demon lords?"Man, Obis isn't going to like THIS.
"It's the perfect excuse to bind nations together, fulfilling the Ring City's long term goal," he says. "A convenient backdrop to make us desperate enough to call for Hyperion.""...it sounds too clever for Sandalphon," Fang says."Over the centuries he's had, you have the time to be clever once or twice.""True. But even I'm not that insane.""That's saying something," Obis mutters."I'm sorry," Fang says. "I didn't quite catch that.""Nothing of importance, Archmage.""I'm sure it wasn't."Vaz Grak makes a low grumble in the back of his throat. "...I do not like this. Too much is coming together, too quickly. It feels...suspicious. And now...we must hurry.""If we don't gather our forces and attack," Tae Wong, "we don't have the luxury of debating the point.""We never had the luxury," Xu adds. "And now we have a week. Two, at best. They have four of the five.""It feels like Sandalphon is holding too many cards," Arcturis says. "He's going to force our hand. And lingering in the background is the threat of that element-forsaken sigil!" He sighs. "But I don't think he'd be responsible for the demons. He fought them himself in the Shadow War, in the elementomachy. He knows better than to try to control them - it's been demonstrated to him first hand."What do you do?>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's Field>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.>tell them that you are Erebus, and that your true power may be able to make the difference, if you can reach the isle in the Void>some combination of the above>some other strategy
>>30342392>some combination of the aboveTime to spill the beans
>>30342392>some combination of the above
>>30342392>>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.Also, ask for the elemental key of wind, but downplay what we know of them
>>30342392Wow, that third option, no fucking way.
>>30342392Hecate only. Melody is for Fang and Auriel to sell.
>>30342392>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's FieldThey have an elemnetal lord, so do we, it's best not to reveal all our cards just yet, guys.
>>30342414>>30342412You have to tell me what options you want, if you want more than one. I can't read your minds.
>>30342392>>some combination of the aboveeverything except the Erebus bit.
>>30342392All three. In that order.
>>30342392> consult with Adavan.However, do not reveal Hecate's presence to the others. The two of us should go and free Hecate immediately.
>>30342392>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's FieldJacob's field is also a main stronghold of the Kanians and a good place to strike at.
>>30342392>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's FieldThe Black Lady can be a dramatic pull when Sandelephon gets here, the Erebus thing does not help us at all here.
>>30342392>>30342436>>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.
>>30342392>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's Field>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.only go full erebus reveal if we absolutely have to
>>30342392>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's Field>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.might as well start pulling out our aces
>>30342392"It may be possible - that I have misled some of you concerning the partners of this alliance. I am glad to see that we have reached a kind of agreement - but there is another great power we can ally ourselves with.""I have spoken with the Black Lady.">see how these motherfuckers react
>>30342440This. Don't tell anyone where the Nice Lady is.
>>30342392Can we ask whether or not Sandalphon can replace Donovan if necessary?And can he track Flint's location through the Shel'kath?Because we have ways of effectively removing Flint from play.
>>30342392>tell them that you are Erebus, and that your true power may be able to make the difference, if you can reach the isle in the VoidFuck it. Time to Tony Stark this shit.
>>30342392>>tell them that you are Erebus, and that your true power may be able to make the difference, if you can reach the isle in the VoidHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAno
>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's Field>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.>tell them that you are Erebus, and that your true power may be able to make the difference, if you can reach the isle in the VoidTell them everything.
>>30342392If anyone is seriously stupid enough to vote for pulling the Black Lady card right now, FIRST CONSULT WITH FANG.
>>30342392Can we catch Auriel's eye and point to ourselves?She'll probably be able to determine what we're trying to say, and flip us off accordingly.
>>30342392>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's Field>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.please do not reveal that we are Erebus unless absolutely necessary.
>>30342457that's a nice way to put it, secondedtesting the waters is good
>>30342454This. Save the Erebus reveal.
>>30342490How about we talk to Fang and Auriel before we decide anything?Why is SM pushing a decision so fast?
>>30342392>some combination of the aboveconsult advan and fang on the first two, reveal erebus only if we get the votes
>>30342500Or just use the <telepathy> to beam the blaring stupid directly into her brain.
>>30342392Revealing Hecate's presence is probably the one most acceptable socially.I saw we do this.
>>30342392We're not saying shit.Instead we're exchanging meaningful glances with Fang first, then Auriel, then Adavan.
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only smart person in the world.But that can't be true because I'm working on my 4th qt of vanilla now. Yum yum.
reveal everything but the fact that we are Erebus.
>>30342392>>some other strategyGo with the first two and modify the third. Reveal that we're not human in the interest of full disclosure. After everything that Arcturius has seen, he may believe that we actually want to make things better. It would also probably help to deal with the whole Black Lady situation.
>>30342392>>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's Field>>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.We are not Erebus, we are Shadow. Our power and motivations speak for themselves.>Reveal our airship.
Guys, the first option is the only reasonable one here, remember Fang told us a secret is most effective when it's revealed. There is no point in revealing more then one secret at a time here. It'll just ruin our chances for using them in the future.
>>30342392Telepathically communicate with Auriel, Fang, and Adavan.Do NOT say anything without them.
>>30342512He's not pushing, he's giving options that retards want to pick because they're tired and impatient and trying to rush things.
>>30342392suggest taking Donovan to Xile temp.
1) Sandalphon2) Lucifer (dead, we should tell them of this)3) Metatron (dead)4) Raphael (might be persuadable)5) Auriel (before she lost her powers) (on our side)6) Anahita7) Michael (dead)8) Raziel (dead)9) Gabriel10) Penemue11) Jophiel12) Charmeine13) Qaphsiel14) Tyrael(on our side)The highest taste goooood.We've eaten 4 highest already.
>>30342530This. HECATE ONLY.
>>30342392>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's Field>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.Either of these is a possible course of action if their respective collaborators are on board for revealing them.The Erebus reveal might end up being necessary post-Hecate unsealing what with her kind of knowing what we are and maybe blowing our cover, but until then, let's try not to go TOTALLY off the deep end.
"Hectate is buried under a hick town, I have half of Leviathan in my pocket and the other half is powering Atlantis, I essentially have the pledged loyalty of the person capable of freeing Geb, and by the way I am Erebus 2.0 rainbow boogaloo."
>>30342524>>30342519Fuck no.Not without checking with Fang and Adavan.Also, is now really the right time?
>>30342518I'm working on my 5th reese's and my second package of sour punch straws right now.
>>30342359Ila husbando get.She won't be lonely now ;u;
>>30342515Saying that we are going to bring abck an elemental lord is a smart play. When we are arguing to not bring one back. And the one we are trying to bring back we opposing Arland (probably doesn't matter)
>>30342566You know how secretive Adavan is.I don't think we told Auriel about Hecate.This seems like too much of a bombshell.
>Taking a vote for making a Matthel punching bag at our next opportunity
>>30342552THIS. Check with Auriel and Fang first.Quick decisions ruin EVERYTHING.
>>30342587It is. sperge guy discussed it at length. We really should talk to our allies before dropping it all on them at once. A measure of acclimation of sorts.
>>30342566We could also bring back Leviathan
>>30342590God I wanted to pocket the fuck out of that smarmy little shit
>>30342392Consult with allies.
What do you do?Vote 1:>consult with Adavan about HecateVote 2:>consult with Yi Fang and Auriel about revealing your alliance with the Black LadyVote 3:>reveal your position of the Nemesis, the cloaked anti-magic airshipVote 4:>I don't like any of these options, let's keep talking
>>30342566Yeah, seems a little hypocritical.I vote have a conversation with Fang and Auriel and company first
>>30342392>consult with Adavan. Now is the time to reveal Hecate's presence under Jacob's Field>reveal your alliance with the Black Lady. Vampiria's might can turn the tables.>tell them that you are Erebus, and that your true power may be able to make the difference, if you can reach the isle in the Void>some combination of the above"Alright, clearly all hands are being forced. I would have liked to wait for a better opportunity to discuss these things, but I'm afraid that can no longer happen.There are things you don't know about the elementomachy, about Erebus, about the Nether.I think now is the time when I must illuminate everything. Understand that I have absolute conviction in my goal of saving this world, and I beg that you hear me out. Hoping that you will not see me in a different light when I am done is futile, so all I can do is beg that you hear me out and hope that you can trust me. So, without further ado..."Spill everything. We have reached the fucked threshhold, we don't have time to waste pissing around in diplomacy matches.
>>30342613Consult with Auriel and Fang about everything.These options suck.
>>303426131<Now might be an excellent time to bring up the fact that we can ensure Hecate's return.>
>>30342613I think the Nemesis was the card SM expected us to be smart enough to come up with on our own.It's not as much of a bombshell as Hecate and the Black Lady, but its speed and immunity to the Skysever might let us move Flint to Xile before Sandalphon shows up.
>>30342613No option to call a meeting with everyone that's intheknow? I'm disappointing.
Now that I think about it...if we could usher in Hecate's return...wouldn't that be a huge boon against...you know...summoned creatures?
>>30342678>Vote 1:>>consult with Adavan about Hecate>Vote 2:>>consult with Yi Fang and Auriel about revealing your alliance with the Black LadyAgreed.we need to do taht
>>30342613these suck, we need all 3
>>30342613All of the above
>>30342689>>30342687We can only bring up one at a time.
The more I think about it, the more I realize our best plan is this:Have arcturius welcome sandy back, have flint go willingly to 'bring back the glorious heritage of hyperion!'and smuggle us to the ring directly.Then, walk right into the defenses of the spell, pocket flint, and destroy it.THIS is the time for subterfuge
>>30342701The nyxystix is the best bet for now. It's the lowest on the scale of 'HOLY FUCK'
>>30342613cutting off votes...mmm, Fenway Fudge
>>30342701we still need to tell auriel and company about Hecate
>>30342721>Fenway FudgeFucking Dropped
>>30342721>based SM, like there's anything else comes close
>>30342715I brought an idea like that up earlier>>30341950
>>30342715This plan is horrible. Absolutely horrible.
Hecate: 9Black Lady: 6Alright, we'll consult with Adavan.Also, I have to write one thing at a time. This vote isn't locking you into a decision. We can talk with other people after Adavan. Don't get your panties in a wad.
>>30342794>Don't get your panties in a wad.Confirmed for bad choice.I'm going to go get more juice and cheese sticks.
>>30342794>implying we won't go for all threemight as well start writing...
>We bring all our cards to the table>Roll for diplomacy>SM: Ohh, I'm using that nat 1 now, hope you roll 2 100s
>>30342794>Don't get your panties in a wad.SM they were in a wad the second everyone voted for rainbows, and they have remained so since.
>>30342794>ballbusting fight drags on for hours with the final attack actually being debated by the lesser minds who haven't payed attention>rolls shit here rolls shit there rolls shit everywhere we needed them the most>entire difficulty of fight was prescribed to the actions of dumb anons from a previous threadSM, my pants had wadded up so bad they blew off.Just hitting orbit an hour ago.
>>30342794>Don't get your panties in a wad.they left months ago
Now that I think about it, would letting Matthel speak fall under the "Let's talke to them!" category?
>>30342782and yet, it only puts US at risk!
>>30342909Yes, yes it would.
My panties are wadded so deeply inside of me that it's forming coal.
>>30342922>walking Flint directly into the sigil exactly where Sandalphon and all the angels will be waitingI'm sure nothing bad could happen if we complete Sandalphon's goals for him!
>>30342909>letting him speak>not beating the ever loving shit out of him until he doesn't even have any lips while still keeping him alive let alone letting him speakI hate you. With all of my hate. But that is still nothing compared to my hatred for that little fucker.
>>30342966I hate you too, anon.
>>30342794>Don't get your panties in a wadnow don't you go getting testy with me, you forced me to eat all my Reese's and the only Almond Snickers I had left.
You slip off of Abigail's arm. She gives you a questioning look. "I wanted to talk to Adavan."You and the lich take your privacy in the hall near the stairwell. <You said you wanted to talk.><That's right.> Adavan puts a hand into his robes and withdraws an iron ring - and you can feel magic on it. Looped onto the ring are four keys. He quickly replaces the ring back in his robe. <When I was blown away during Matthel's attack, I came to two conclusions. First, that as I am, I'd only get in your way. Second - that it was a perfect opportunity to infiltrate the treasury.><...so what happens when they look inside the treasury and see a bust with no key on it?>Adavan grins. <What, did you think I was twiddling my thumbs while you were at that party? I made a copy. It won't hold up to very close inspection, but no one goes to look at that thing anyway.><Well,> you say, <that lines up perfectly with something I wanted to mention to you.><I can feel it coming,> he says. <We're backed into a corner...and the trump card you want is Hecate.><More or less.><I don't know, Shadow,> he says. <I don't know how she'll be received. I don't know how strong she'll be after all this time. She'll definitely make a huge difference...but...I think I'd feel more comfortable if we did it after the fact - after she was free. Then the protests wouldn't matter; it would be done and done. When she flies in to save the day - if she must - then no one will complain.>It's not a bad point.How do you respond?>Alright. We'll sit on it for now.>Ok. We'll free her, and keep it under wraps.>No. We should tell them about it first.>write-in
>>30342966>later>Shadow are you okay? I've never seen you that mad>I wanted to hurt him Donovan, he was your brother and I wanted to turn him into paste for what he did. To you, Ila, everyone..... I wanted to make him wish I'd consumed him if only to make it all stop
I took 7 325mg Hydrocodone the moment i read that the final seal disappeared. Not bragging, but I think i may have a problem.
>>30343047>Ok. We'll free her, and keep it under wraps.
>>30343047>Ok. We'll free her, and keep it under wraps
>>30343047Ask Aureil and Abigail what they think, if we had two or more elementals then it wouldn't matter>implying we can free Geb and find Leviathan
>>30343047>Ok. We'll free her, and keep it under wraps.shell be nice to talk to and chill with anyways
>>30343047>write-in"What about removing Sandalphon from the equation? I could forgo using the power I got from Metatron for empowering myself further and just... erase him."
>>30343047"Then let's do it. Now. Before Sandalphon arrives."
>>30343047Ask him if we can at least tell Auriel and Flint.Surely they've proven themselves trustworthy?Also while we are talking to him, ask about the temporarily Servanting Flint plan. Would there be permanent side effects even after we removed it?
>>30343047DON'T FORCE THE DECISION NOW SM!!!!!i WANT TO TALK TO FANG AND AURIEL FIRST. and let auriel know about this whole thing first.
>>30343047>Ok. We'll free her, and keep it under wraps.Sounds like the perfect time for a heist.
>>30343047>No. We should tell Auriel and Abigail about it.
>>30343047>Ok. We'll free her, and keep it under wraps."You deserve that much, Adavan."
>>30343047>write-inAsk his opinion on eating the water gem. We know it's a big something. Leviathan's own personal ice-demon dude was guarding it.
>>30343148Those things couldn't have been that strong.
>>30343047We'll free her, and keep it under wraps, but I want to at least ask >Auriel?>Abby?>Flint?about it
>>30343084Dude, are you serious? What strength Hydrocodone? It comes as 5/325, 7.5/325, and 10/325. And you took seven of them? You're worrying me here.
>>30343121This. Not the whole alliance but at least the people who need to know on our side.Abigail too.
>>30343174>Shadow Quest is worse than any drug
>>30343174shadow quest is srs biznis
>>30343174New you realize the horror you've wrought SM.
>>303431747.5It isn't that big of a deal, I have a high opiate tolerance. I've survived 13 before, though i was hallucinating at that point and i don't think i slept for awhile
>>30343084>Not juicing fentanyl patches and squirting that up your buttIt's like you don't even into abusing prescription drugs.
>>30343174I'm on my 5th qt now. This one's chocolate, the real cheap kind.
>>30343047I feel as if our closest allies might deserve at least some say in this.Not Arcturis, Vellik, or Fang, but the ones who have risked their lives to save the second coming of Erebus.Also there might be some massive flaw both of us are too close to see right now, and it would be really embarrassing if we accidentally destroyed the planet or something.
>>30343202Shit, man.Get it together.
>>30343202>>30343174actually i think its 10/325I don't really look at the bottle, i usually take them out and put them in a bag
>>30343174Lets the idiot done out if he od's it aint your problem its his.
>>30343212Is Hecate trapped in the Core too?I'm just thinking that freeing Hecate MIGHT ALSO destabilize the core.She is an Elemental Lord of Chaos, after lal.
>>30343242...Please read the archives.
>>30343242I don't think she is, but she might still destabilize things.
>>30343242nope, she's been sealed under Jacobs Field since thread 1. just like how Geb is just fucking around the wastes and Levi might be chilling in Atlantis
>>30343202>10/325>seven tablets>of 10/325>seven>of 10>sevenI am here to tell you that you have a problem.Anon. You need to do something about this.----------------...back to our regularly scheduled 4Kids! episode of Shadow Quest...
>>30343228I'm not gonna kill myself over a story, i have other reasons to do that. SM is actually a big reason NOT to. Which reflecting on is quite sad considering that some strangers hobby writing on the internet is a fairly large reason in wanting to live.
>>30343242Erebus tricked her into sealing herself in a tomb thing. She actually tried talking to Shadow a few times but we had no idea who "Erebus" was at the time and ignored her.
>>30343263>>30343267I'M NOT TRAINED TO HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS
Rolled 61>>30343267I know dat feel
>>30343208>Not injecting morphine into the vein near your tear duct
>>30343267But whatever Back to the quest.I probably should have spoliered and saged that
>>30343267Oh, it's not that bad. Once the only thing keeping em going was waiting for a book to be released. It wasn't even a good book.
>>30343267Any reason to want to live is a good reason.I've been where you're at(with this very quest even) and you take what you can get to motivate yourself to keep going.Just keep the will alive and keep looking for other reasons.
>>30343267stop depressing the thread we have our own problems to deal with and I know I don't need yours on top of mine.
>>30343263I've spent days not able to deal after some threads, just shows you how addicting and awesome your work is
>>30343299>>30343267I knew I wasn't the only one that felt this way, but I didn't think I'd see people admitting it.I fucking hated Christmas this year and last year. Almost all the quests I like stopped running for a month.
>>30343296We love you SM. Take heart in the fact that you make something that people love, and things like that seriously effect peoples lives for the better, and many of those people don't have to many things making their lives better. You do good.
>>30343327Why so surprised? You should've known most of your players were addicts of some kind.Though I rather prefer the term "Explorer of the Senses," myself.
>>30343327We've finally found a weaknessCONTINUE TALKING ABOUT MEDICATION ABUSE!
>>30343327Are you afraid, SM? Are you afraid of the knowledge of what this quest has driven your players to do?
>>30343337I knowThe people on 4chan.
>>30343084>>30343174>>30343202>>30343208>>30343263>>30343267>>30343296>>30343303>>30343327>this is my life, these are the people I have come to know in the past year...
>>30343368More like kept from doing.>>30343365Maybe we can use this to keep him from using the 1....Or maybe it'll fix our dice?
>>30343368Yes.No.Yes.>>30343384I'm totally trapped in a glass case of emotion right now.Must get back to writing.
>>30343365I've never abused medication but rather my psychiatrist abused his ability to prescribe them.Never felt so empty and lifeless before than when I was on all those anti-psychotic and a bunch of other shit for depression and anxiety.Thank god I got a new guy. Now I just take a miligram of Risperidone and work through the rest of the problems on my own.
>>30343303>Implying I'm not injecting 120mg of morphine RIGHT NOW
Everyone else is abusing hard drugs and I'm just sitting here drinking Welch's Passion Fruit Juice and eating cheese sticks.While I wait for the hallucinations from sleep deprivation to start up. Because those are the most interesting things I have to look forward to besides the quests I like.
>>30343409there there SM, there's sure to be candy at the end of this wonderful terrifying mind explosion. as long as you remember to write it in
>>30343417anti-psychotics are terrible, better to just dope up on zanex or some painkiller than make yourself an empty shell like that.I know a few people who were much worse after they went on them, the again, they weren't actually COMPLETELY crazy, and i don't know the exact one they were taking.
>>30343405Hmm>>30343409SMSMIF YOU USE THE NAT 1 I AM GOING TO INJECT INSULIN UNTIL I HAVE A SEIZURE, FALL INTO A COMA, AND THEN DIE OF HYPERGLYCEMIA
>>30343421>Implying you'd survive it>implying you're not taking several times the lethal dose
>>30343470Don't make threats like that.SM, don't respond to this.Do not joke about killing yourslef,just joke bout injecting Percocet into the tip of you dick.
>>30343464Unfortunately, I am pretty far down the rabbit hole and kind of need them to function.Luckily, with such a small dosage it's just brought down things to manageable and not the zombie-like state of before. I'm hoping to just learn to completely deal with it on my own someday but I need the meds now.
<...I think you make a good point,> you say. <She doesn't have to reveal herself immediately after we free her.><Exactly,> Adavan says. <I knew you'd get it.><But,> you add, <while I don't think the entire alliance needs to know...the inner circle needs to be aware. Abigail. Auriel. Flint. And Ila, too. They've earned your trust after all this, haven't they? After Xile?>Adavan is silent.<...Adavan...><Alright.> He sighs, lowering his head. <Alright. I just...Auriel. I don't know how she'll take it. Any of the angels. They were my mortal enemies. I never met her, back then, but I'm sure she knew of me. I knew of her. Our armies clashed. I worry...that some things never change.><Well,> you say, <she knows that my past self was Erebus. She seems to have gotten over it.><Heh. There's that. Ok. But...time is short. Very short. I don't think we should do it tonight. We make sure Donovan is safe, deal with Sandalphon in the morning...and then we'll have excuse when we go to 'gather our forces'. While Haven readies itself, we can infiltrate Jacob's Field.><That sounds like a plan. I'll keep you in the loop.><I appreciate that. Any ideas on how to protect Donovan?><I was thinking we hide him on-board the Nemesis. If he's constantly moving, they'll have trouble finding him, even if they're able to track the shel'kath.><That,> Adavan says, <is an excellent idea.>What do you do now?>speak with Auriel and Fang about the Black Lady>gather your inner circle to explain Hecate's existence>some other strategy
Were this not already archived, I'd have made its description a joke about Shadow Quest getting darker than usual...
>>30343501I can be hard, i feel ya.
>>30343502>speak with Auriel and Fang about the Black LadyThen.>gather your inner circle to explain Hecate's existence
>>30343470>implying you know what you're talking about >implying excess insulin causes increased blood sugar>implying you paid attention when the doctor was teaching you about insulinYou'd die of hypoglycemia, fag.
>>30343502>speak with Auriel and Fang about the Black LadyFirst>gather your inner circle to explain Hecate's existenceSecond
>>30343502>>speak with Auriel and Fang about the Black Lady
>>30343502>speak with Auriel and Fang about the Black Lady>gather your inner circle to explain Hecate's existence
>>30343502>gather your inner circle to explain Hecate's existence
>>30343502>speak with Auriel and Fang about the Black Lady
>>30343529Don't worry, he was just joking and didn't actually try to make everyone think he knew what he was talking about
>>30343502>>speak with Auriel and Fang about the Black LadySince we're getting our ducks in a row.
>>30343529I'm just spouting bullshit I pulled off yahoo answers man. I'm not even diabetic. Don't even know anyone who is, in fact.
>>30343502>speak with Auriel and Fang about the Black Ladythen>gather your inner circle to explain Hecate's existencepoints of interest>Geb>possible Leviathan?>revealing Nemesis/bringing it here before Sandouche comes>FLINT TO XILE PLAN
>>30343502>>speak with Auriel and Fang about the Black Lady>>gather your inner circle to explain Hecate's existenceDo both at once.Save timeBrainstorm ways to find the new aura circle.Maybe it can be tracked?I figure Steward ought to have some seriously long-range search capabilities, considering the shit city002 tracked us through
>>30343514It.Fuck my grammar spirals downhill when i do this.Editing that 3 Page Sperg of Questions and reminders took like 20 mins once i came down. I'm Inquisitive Anon
>>30343602That little birth of space between the first spoiler and the second spoiler is giving me the biggest fucking migraine ever and I have no idea why.
In short order, you exchange Adavan for Auriel and Fang. The others give you pointed looks. Arcturis's gaze follows you out of the room, but he doesn't ask any questions.Auriel turns to you as soon as you're out of hearing distance on the others. "I know what you're thinking. The Black Lady.""That's right.""Come," Fang says. "Let's go further."You walk down the stairwell to one of the lower landings. Fang proffers the black cylinder."Wait," you say. "That quickly? Are you sure?""No time like the present," Fang says. "Arcturis wants something to tip the scales. This is it. This is our trump card. We need to make contact and tell her to get down here."What do you do?>contact the Black Lady>no, not yet
>>30343639"Are you absolutely sure he won't react with hostility?"
>>30343639>contact the Black Lady
>>30343639>>contact the Black Lady"Well, this will probably go over less poorly that the other options I considered."
>>30343639Call her up.We need some Melody to improve the harmon-Yi (Fang)
>>30343639"There was Matthel's words earlier on this situation. It seems like it would put me and you under a lot of suspicion."
>>30343502<Auriel, I'm not sure how to say this so I'll just come out with it.... Erebus may have placed contingencies I wasn't fully aware of, more specifically I have confirmed Hecate may still dwell on Venia. Possibly others but I feel certain she tried to call out to me for help when I first awoken at Jacob's Field and after checking a few things I believe she could not only be brought back without harming the Nether or Venia but give us the advantage against the Demon Lords>
>>30343639Shouldn't give him some head up?Ehh, fuck it>>contact the Black Lady
>>30343639Glance at Auriel?
>>30343695>saying this in front of Fangishiggydiggy
>>30343639Mention that Sandalthong said he "Took care of" The Black Lady situation. Before we do anything.
>>30343712That picture makes me sad.
>>30343691We should bring this up.
>>30343639>contact the Black Ladyto Fang: if you are certain, it might push a few buttons but I think after everything thats happened her presence might just tip the scales in our favorto Auriel: Be ready, Melody said she would reveal her true self in time but who knows how she'll react when we tell her everything
>>30343712we need to call our child that when we have one with Abigail
So Hectate going to have to go through levelan up "slowly" like we did or are they going to suddenly super recharge back to full power stupid fast to make her balanced against our other allies?
>>30343746I thought the kid's name was already Laura.
>>30343763Eh, she was only sealed. Erebus was literally shattered.
>>30343763It would be hilarious if Hyperion had to level up like us. Given that he was stuck in the Core of Chaos, though, he probably doesn't.
>>30343763Kelvere is ripe with demons for her mana siphons.
>>30343763Hecate didn't blow herself up into pieces before sealing away. I reckon she's as strong as we are right now.
>>30343763Probably somewhere inbetween.She was "Sealed" we were "Broken up and Scattered"
>>30343639Does Fang know about our ship?Ask their opinion on keeping it a secret or not.Or better yet, passing it off as belonging to the Black Lady?
>>30343763she'll probably be closer to full power then we were. erebus self destructed and put himself back together over 700 years, Hecate was sealed during the war
>>30343780Watch him be stronger than before.>>30343784Fuck no that is ours and we are dam proud of it!
>>30343784The ship is also the city of Haven.We can't pass it off as someone else's possession.
"...Auriel?"The angel looks at you, Fang, and then shrugs. "Might as well get on with the meet and greet. The bag of bones is right.""I resent that.""Oh no, I've earned Yi Fang's ire," Auriel says. "Whatever shall I do?""If you weren't on my side, I'd make you regret those smarmy comments.""Probably upset your niece, too," Auriel says. "Looks like you've been de-fanged.""Don't make me start joking about wings, now." Fang turns to the wall. "Alright."He pulses power into the cylinder. The blank screen flickers up onto the wall, a thin sheen of mana.You wait.And wait."...I assume," Auriel says, "that something is suppose to happen at this point?"Fang puts the cylinder back into his robes. "She's not answering. Perhaps she's busy.""Even the rulers of the world have to use the lavatory."The comment almost makes you smile. Almost. "...earlier, when I was in the sigil room. Sandalphon mentioned something about her - that she'd been 'managed'. I'm a little worried.""I'm not," Fang says. "So she's a little tied up. There's nothing he could do short of killing her that would stop her for long.""...maybe you're right."----------------TO BE CONTINUEDTOMORROW!!!Ok, so, meta questions? Inquisitive Anon, you got that pastebin?
>>30343852The only person that has a chance of doing anything to the Black Lady is Sandalthong.Unless they teleported her into Nelmar
>>30343852Can we just buy MP5 now and get it out of the way?
>>30343852So it seems like as far as trump cards go, we'll have to settle with having a massive airship that is immune to the Skysever.
>>30343784The Ship is basically Haven,the fortress of Haven is really just a place for the real city to occasionally land and resupply at.
>>30343852The only thing you haven't answered yet isMagically inert people:We haven’t really heard anything about them at all so far. Are they all just subject to being peasants? That doesn’t really seem to make much sense to me because strong people like Obis and (kind of) Flint don’t really use magic at all and rely on physical prowess and some enchantments. It seems like a Magically Inert person would have a lot of versatility in the types of enchanted armors and weapons they could wield and use. For example, Flint wouldn’t use a shadow or spirit typed shield because it would literally hurt him to touch it, But Joey on the other hand could have a Shadow shield, a Light sword, a Wind Cloak, and a Spirit Ring, etc, etc. It feels like if you’re a Melee fighter then having an Elemental Alignment is more harm than good. I’ve been wondering why we haven’t met any important people or at least skilled fighters who were magically unaligned when (from what I remember) like 50%-80% of people are completely unaligned and a good deal of Skilled Combat is Melee. This also means that Joey has the potential to surpass Flint. Lastly, is it possible for some who is born of two magically neutral parents to be aligned either way? This is important because if not, the magically aligned (and magically adept) subjugating the neutral would likely be a replacement for the Element vs Element conflict.Airships:Can we get a listing of who owns what amount of Airships? Because you said that there were 27 at the beginning of the quest. But you said that Kelevere had 4 and the Ring City only had two, which doesn’t really seem to make sense considering their overall “power”. Shadow ate 2 at Evinbrook(one of the dukes, one of the Ring Citys), then destroyed the one we stole from the angels, but apparently they had another that one couldn’t jump giving them three. I am really confused and would like solid number on who owns how many of these things.
>>30343883thats a fucking massive bummer, I was hyped as fuck for her entrance and now theres nothing...
>>30343852I'd ask something but I'm so tired that the captcha looks like very small shadow elementals marching from side to side, going into the right side of the boxing and marching back into it from the left like they went around somehow.Great threads, will stalk your twitter for me.I can't wait to see what happens next. When are you running tomorrow d'ya think?
>>30343894>nullsfuck yeah nulls are awesome badasses that dont afraid of anything
>>30343895>thats a fucking massive bummer, I was hyped as fuck for her entrance and now theres nothing...
>>30343852>"Looks like you've been de-fanged."THE PUNSTHE RIDE NEVER ENDS, NOR DO I WANT IT TO.
>>30343852Oh, And what happens when a Vampire enters Nelmar?And What does Vampiria do with their Elementals?And we need to ask Auriel about the Fire Sprite elementals that were supposedly of human intelligence that Logi kept.I will have more in later threads, I'm going back and rereading and i'm only at 23 so i will have more.
>>30343923Yeah yeah, Sandelphon is going to bring her in chains to establish what a badass he is, and secure his place as the fake final boss.
>>303439048pm EST, right after Jeopardy.Ok, now I gots questions to answer...
>>30343923If she shows up as an enemy I am going to poop blood.
>>30343945>>30343956>Yeah yeah, Sandelphon is going to bring her in chains to establish what a badass he is, and secure his place as the fake final boss.
>>30343923>but mah shadow runsseriously though, whatevers keeping her better be important/not lethal
>>30343956She swore allegiance to us anon... Have some faith
>>30343963Can our Pocket as it is now hold the Heartstone Titan?
>>30343963>Blink onto and around him in the shape of a bell>ErasureTHONG REMOVED
>>30343963Oi ya git, can we vote for MP5 or what? Two people asked.
>>30343963>>30343963either>shake his hand>Erasureor>Blink behind>grab wings>then Erasure
Magic Power V pls
>>30343984Lets save it for next thread>>30343963When we Unpocket something does it shunt other objects out of the way? or can we only unpocket things if there is enough room for it? and what would happen if we tried to unpocket something large in a small space.
>>30343995Or Erasure + Shattenkrieg
>>30343995>Erasure targets his "blessing" and leaves him mortal>So Sandy, about that whole mindless war on shadow...
>>30343894>Magically inert people:>We haven’t really heard anything about them at all so far. Are they all just subject to being peasants? That doesn’t really seem to make much sense to me because strong people like Obis and (kind of) Flint don’t really use magic at all and rely on physical prowess and some enchantments.Magically 'inert' people just don't have the talent for casting magical spells. Magic is chaotic energy. Everyone has a soul, which is essentially a ball of chaotic energy trapped by the order of their bodies.Mages have excess chaotic energy beyond that needed to sustain life, which they can learn to manipulate in the form of magic.>It seems like a Magically Inert person would have a lot of versatility in the types of enchanted armors and weapons they could wield and use. For example, Flint wouldn’t use a shadow or spirit typed shield because it would literally hurt him to touch it, But Joey on the other hand could have a Shadow shield, a Light sword, a Wind Cloak, and a Spirit Ring, etc, etc.Sure. That's true.>It feels like if you’re a Melee fighter then having an Elemental Alignment is more harm than good. I’ve been wondering why we haven’t met any important people or at least skilled fighters who were magically unaligned when (from what I remember) like 50%-80% of people are completely unaligned and a good deal of Skilled Combat is Melee.Janus Miller is exactly the kind of person you're looking for. Remember how I described him in weird, eclectic outfits? Those are all enchanted items. He wears dozens of them.>con't
Ok. So Aeoulus was a dragon. Erebus was probably just a blob or looked something like Temerity did, but meaner. What were all the others? Hectate was "The Goddes" and was the most human seeming of them, at least by her actions, so she's probably a weird looking woman? I keep imagining her as a goldish orange greek goddess statue looking woman.No idea about Logi, Leviathan, Hyperion, and Geb. I keep imagining Rajin as a zappy djiin on a cloud or something.
>This also means that Joey has the potential to surpass Flint.Well...let's not get ahead of ourselves. In terms of the types of magical items he can effectively use, yes. But enchanted items are difficult to make. Powerfully enchanted items are exceptionally rare; many of them were crafted only by the ancient societies with great effort, or by the elemental lords themselves. These are things like the Staff of Winds, Dynamo Shells, Metatron's Fire Whip, etc.>Lastly, is it possible for some who is born of two magically neutral parents to be aligned either way? This is important because if not, the magically aligned (and magically adept) subjugating the neutral would likely be a replacement for the Element vs Element conflict.Yes, you can be a 'muggle-born', to steal a Potterverse term. Though, generally, powerful mages tend to have powerful offspring. Hence Donovan being a good candidate for the ritual based on his pedigree.>Airships:>Can we get a listing of who owns what amount of Airships? Because you said that there were 27 at the beginning of the quest. But you said that Kelevere had 4 and the Ring City only had two, which doesn’t really seem to make sense considering their overall “power”. Shadow ate 2 at Evinbrook(one of the dukes, one of the Ring Citys), then destroyed the one we stole from the angels, but apparently they had another that one couldn’t jump giving them three. I am really confused and would like solid number on who owns how many of these things.Archon - 4 Airships>The Lesser Element>The Light's Bane>The Guen Tal>The FangKelvere - 3 Airships (now possessed by Kan-Abar)Kan-Abar - 5 AirshipsVampiria - 4 Airships>The Lady's Fist>The Vengeance>The Haumod >The Vahn DumanArland - 3 AirshipsRing City/Empire/Ulund - 7 Airships>The Velarion>The Noiralev (wrecked)>The RagnarokHaven - 1 Airship>The NemesisIf I didn't list the names, it's because I haven't named them.
>>30344079Wait I completely forgot how Shadow Element people like Illa work.Doesn't that mean she has no soul, or an anti-soul somehow?
>>30344100>Metatron's Fire WhipSON OF A BITCHIt got destroyed, didn't it...
>>30344100>Kelvere - 3 Airships (now possessed by Kan-Abar)>Kan-Abar - 5 AirshipsFUCK
>>30343980Give me a minute on that one.>>30344102No, they have souls. They just don't use Chaos. They use Order.Two sides of the same coin. The energy can be put to use as magic.Don't think about it that hard.
>>30344102No>>30344079I like this Janus fellow, he sounds like he would be a bitch to fight. i knew he did that and thought of him i just didn't know he was neutral.>>30344079>>30344100So Obiss' Strong Fire soul really doesn't help him at all?
>>30343980I'm just going to go ahead and say you'll need the next magic power to pocket Heartstone Titan. I think that if you took the volume as-is, it would fit, but I think of the Pocket as a roughly spherical container, though things you put inside it will pack themselves to fit as much as they can, ala Resident Evil 4 briefcase.
>>30344130>So Obiss' Strong Fire soul really doesn't help him at all?>When we Unpocket something does it shunt other objects out of the way? or can we only unpocket things if there is enough room for it? and what would happen if we tried to unpocket something large in a small space.> And what happens when a Vampire enters Nelmar?>And What does Vampiria do with their Elementals?>And we need to ask Auriel about the Fire Sprite elementals that were supposedly of human intelligence that Logi kept.
>>30344155Got it.Also, I just read through the pastebin. Heartstone Titan needs 10 EXP to create, or has that been changed?
>>30344155I could swear you said it wasn't actually a "container" but more that you could have 81 square meters of "space" taken up which doesn't count for gaps and shit and all of that kinds of stuff.But whatever we're going to need it anyway
>>30344130So servant cancels magic from the higher elements, but with Obis would benefit cause he doesn't magic to begin with? If we servant flint would he "radiate" shadow instead of light if I understand?Does your average mage only have a single element? And does having more than one limit how much you can master each one while having only one would give you potential mastery far beyond what someone with more than one could reach?
>>30344199>If we servant flint would he "radiate" shadow instead of light if I understand?It would Cancel out
>>30344169Why do people even want this thing...
>>30344211There's only two or three guys. I get the feeling that most people want Magic Power 5 or Ray of Darkness.
>>30344130>Big question so feel free to "can't do that Dave"We know that Arland/Wind has its "bloodline" spell, and I guess the Sun Call would be considered the Light equivilant. But do the other elements/kingdoms/royal families have anything similar?
>>30344211Because they are incredibly powerful, and ours would be even stronger than a normal one. But we're going to need both eventually. We want to be able to pull a giant robot out of out Pocket.
>>30344236Gravity a shitRobots is where it's at.
>>30344234Buying it now wouldn't actually do anything because we ARE going to be saving 10xp for emergency Erasure. It's a waste.
>>30344234I think a bunch of operator-tier Machina Vitae would be a better investment, without having to use precious EXP.
>>30344146>So Obis' Strong Fire soul really doesn't help him at all?Well, he's extra suited to wield any fire-based things, and he has a natural resistance to fire. Obis could put his hand in a flame and be unscathed.Neutral-soul people can wield items of any enchantment, but not as well as those they'd be especially suited for. Jack of all trades, master of none.>>30344164>When we Unpocket something does it shunt other objects out of the way? or can we only unpocket things if there is enough room for it? and what would happen if we tried to unpocket something large in a small space.If you unpocketed something large in a space that was too small, the less sturdy thing would break. Either the walls, or the object you unpocketed.>And what happens when a Vampire enters Nelmar?That's a great question. Who knows?>And What does Vampiria do with their Elementals?Wow, you guys sure do ask great questions.>And we need to ask Auriel about the Fire Sprite elementals that were supposedly of human intelligence that Logi kept.They were his servants. They vanished with him. Not much more important beyond that.>>30344191Well, if that was so, then I change my mind.>con't
>>30344232I don't think Windburn is only usable by the Flints, i just think that you have to be so strong that very few have th strength to use it, Plus they ain't gonna go out teaching it willy nilly to anyone who asks.But good question about the others, i am also curious about this.
>>30344263>Well, he's extra suited to wield any fire-based things, and he has a natural resistance to fire. Obis could put his hand in a flame and be unscathed.can he swim?
>>30344255We would get 10 10ft robots to go along with it.>>30344244Yeah, but who knows what's going to happen, we may end up with another 20 EXP in our pocket before we head back to haven to prepare for the war. We got Sandalthong coming tomorrow. I'm just saying it is up there in usefulness.
>>30344199>So servant cancels magic from the higher elements, but with Obis would benefit cause he doesn't magic to begin with?He would lose his fiery advantages.>If we servant flint would he "radiate" shadow instead of light if I understand?It would just null. He'd lose all his light magic and have only weak shadow powers compared to other Servants.>Does your average mage only have a single element? And does having more than one limit how much you can master each one while having only one would give you potential mastery far beyond what someone with more than one could reach?Yes, most mages, by far, have one element. Generally those with more than one are dominant in one element, and minor in the second. With time it is possible to master both equally, but usually they are talented in one or the other, and the secondary element proves troublesome.This is especially difficult in the rare case that mages have contradictory elements, such as a Lesser and Greater element, like Auriel, who is both Light and Spirit. No mage ever has complete opposite elements, i.e., Light/Dark, Water/Fire.>We know that Arland/Wind has its "bloodline" spell, and I guess the Sun Call would be considered the Light equivilant. But do the other elements/kingdoms/royal families have anything similar?Everyone's got some powerful magic up their sleeve, but the Windburn in particular is special.The Sun Call is just a very powerful light spell that doesn't effect angels. It's not really a 'bloodline' spell. It was developed during the elementomachy to clear large areas and avoid the friendly fire problem.
>>30344295Probably wouldn't enjoy it to much.
>>30344264it was said the Windburn was the Flint family's legacy spell from their ancestor from Xile so I'm fairly certain it's only something they can use
>>30344295>can he swim?Sure. Kan-Abar is a port city with lots of canals, he swam all the time when he was younger. Pools are a good way to get out of the heat, too.
>>30344300If we unservanted Flint, would his light magic come back?
>>30344298Every bit of EXP is precious. If we want a Heartstone Titan, we need to spend 35 EXP in total to get it.It's not worth it right now.
>>30344313I would say it's worth it. It's more of a long term investment. Also for when we give Abby the Earth tree as part of the tree gift she will be able to craft Heartstone Titans to aid Archon.I feel like that would be something that we would pull out of our Pocket at key occasions.
>>30344300>It would just null. He'd lose all his light magic and have only weak shadow powers compared to other Servants.if it's nulled then there'd be no light magic for the shel'kath right? plus it'd come back if we cancled servant i think/hope
>>30344310>If we unservanted Flint, would his light magic come back?Yes.If you made him one of your Chosen, however, it would not, because you can't undo that.
>>30344334Then Chosening Abby would be better now because that would equally contribute towards that plan and it would actually have benefits now.
>>30344335>if it's nulled then there'd be no light magic for the shel'kath right?No. He wouldn't be able to use magic well because his Light soul would be muddled and befuddled by what is essentially a Darkness enchantment applied to him directly. He'd still have a soul of light, and it would still be preyed upon by the shel'kath.
>>30344344Can we eat they Keys for Hecates Tomb when we're done? Or maybe eat whatever dynamo is powering the spell keeping her imprisoned? Because there is no way it has maintained itself all this time?>>30344353I've wanted to Chosen Abby and lla for awhile now.Abby gets earthlla gets Shadow magic
>>30344363grrr, curse your logic
>>30344363But would the magic going back to the Sigil be Light magic or the muddled shadowlight?Very important.
>>30344353I've been waiting for you to Chosen Abigail for a long time. I really hope this is a powerful faction when we vote to distribute the EXP.I mean, I want you to have a super-shadow robot, but still. Abby-Sabby could use some survivability if she's going to be hanging around you.
>>30344367I'd support Ila getting Spirit or Water. She doesn't need our own Shadow Tree.
>>30344383>been voting for it since it went down to 15expWe're trying, elements know she needs it
>>30344376It would be entirely unmuddled.This is academic anyway. The sigil has already collected enough light, even though the shel'kath continues to drain him. They just need to bring Donovan over and finish the job.
>>30344383What about best girlsis lla? How would Chosening her (and giving her our Shadow magic make her? on par with Rapheal? of maybe Anahita?>>30344397Nigga she is Pure Shadow and is gonna stay that way
>>30344397She would probably turn down any non shadow tree.So either middle or Shadow magic, and Shadow magic is our strongest tree by far.
>>30344367I can get behind Abby getting earth, MAAYBE water but Ila probaly has more shadow spells then we've seen and could do well with water/spirit>ice blades>using fast blink to freeze enemies before they can react>healing>summoning>mind magic
>>30344410By the way, are Anahita and Jophiel female? Their names sound very feminine.
>>30344397Our strongest tree is easily the Shadow Magic tree and She could do with some straight up combat ability.
>>30344444>>30344444>honestly so could we, haven't touched shadow magic in months
>>30344397I think you underestimate just how good of a boost our Shadow Magic tree is.>Eclipse>Void Ring>Nightblaze>Code of Darkness>Oneness (reduces mana cost of all shadow magic)>Whatever comes off VR, Eclipse, and Shadow Bomb that we haven't revealed.And then if it also transfers the tree completion bonus... WHOOO BOY.
>>30344434Yes, they're both female.Going to sleep now, see ya'll tomorrow.
>>30344444>>30344459We should ask her how many shadow spells she knows.
>>30344427Compared to Vennegut our Water tree sucks.Compared to Abby our Spirit tree sucks.Let her stick with what she is good at.Or let her choose.She'll choose Shadow magic though because it has all though unique abilities.I want her to be our Sandalthong, ecept not as assholeish.
>>30344459>And then if it also transfers the tree completion bonus... WHOOO BOY.ya sure why notassuming you have it yourself, that is
>>30344460>let the fanfics beginG'night SM, may the keyboard rise to meet you and the dice ever be based
>>30344476WHOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOYJust to confirm, the Shadow Magic completion bonus is AMAZING? RIGHT? IT BETTER BE.
>>30344476Based SM>>30344455I know. I've wanted Ray of Darkness ever since we fucked up Raizel.
>>30344489>Best Tree>Worst BonusI would be quite asspained
>>30344501Please post both of those at the start of next thread.g'night SMg'night all
>>30344495Eclipse master class!>gather all our shadow mages onto Nemesis>got to Ring City>offer them peace, remove the spell on Flint or do so by force>Sandy refuses>Eclipse>Shadow barrage the angels>Ignorance potions all around
>>30344519I approve.imagine if lla could do it herself and lead our Shadow mages into battle.
Guys, guys, remember when Ila and the mages still thought Flint was our "master assassin"
>>30344559Do they still think he is?
>>30344559Ohohoho, how could I forget
>>30344573he certainly haven't done anything while they're around to prove otherwise
>>30344559Indeed. Oh Sir Flint, even when you fail you somehow win
Which shard battle do you think was the most epic?My choice is a tie between the Wrath fight and the New Shards vs Old Shards fight. Except the critfail of Damocles.
>>30344611those were good, but gotta give it to ShadowxHumanity vs. Temerity. awesome battle and plotberge
>>30344611I'm kinda partial to Isolation just because he is so cool.
I wonder what would happen if both Shadow and Ila 420NIGHTBLAZEIT at the same time.
We should DEFINITELY meditate on our shards tonight since Sandalphon is coming tomorrow.
>>30344627I think we both Schattenkreig'd each other during that fight, right?
Any other Servant/Chosen ideas?
>>30344635damn, that's hands down one of my favorite too. the shards weren't even a thing until that double super crit>>30344636they'd coil together until they hit the target and exploded into rainbows
>>30344671In Shadow quest positive crits are so rare that they Create Characters and Change Plot.
>>30344647our shadow magic was cut off for that fight so not even sure we could use Schattenkrieg, still sounds like something we'd do>>30344666maybe Young Bull (he's earth right?), maybe Cain or Hamil, Steward if he counts as a soul I've played with the idea of Vonnegut, make him an offer he can't refuse. Join our battle for the world or die when everything else goes. we could even pay him if we wanted and take Servant if he ever crosses/betrays us
>>30344690oh I know, been here since SQ 1>like that crit fail to grab a book from the Duke's library.....it was a just for a book and we still
>>30344714Cain and Hamil are my next votes. Adavan and Ila are already Servants, right? And we haven't Servanted Abby?
>>30344714Cain, Hamil, Young Bull, and Steward are all good, maybe Valeria too if she's up for it.But not Vonnegut, he isn't even loyal, he could give our blessing a bad name.Remember how we didn't have a limit to how many servants we could have before we unlocked Chosen? Hyperion unlocked Servant and servanted people like crazy and locked himself out of Chosen.>>30344733I miss critfails like that, lately critfails have been nerve-wracking
>>30344742>Adavan and Ila are already Servants, right? yep.>And we haven't Servanted Abby?naw man, we got her right after we survived the Archonium
>>30344742We servanted Abby. She just critfails multiple times every single encounter and looks horrible for it.
>>30344742We've servanted abbyAdavan should stay a servant
>>30344758I think you have that backwards, there's a limit of 3 on Chosen but servant has no limits on the number of times we can use it or how many people can have it>implying Sandy isn't Hyperion's Chosen. would explain his superiority complex
I'm waiting for lla to get insulted by an angel when they arrive and she gets mad and pulls out her own wings. It will be so bad but i will enjoy it so much.
WAIT A SECOND.SM just said that peoples' bodies are the shells of Order that contain their souls of Chaos.Dynamos are structured based on souls.We need some Order-infused matter to make dynamo shells.Under the dwarf city, there is a hole down to the core.>implications
>>30344784still say we should do the wing mimic like we did to Auriel when Sandolphon gets here
>>30344782>Servant - With the assistance of a mana pool, and some EXP you can make any sentient soul a 'servant'. Your servants are stronger, faster, and have more magical power than normal individuals of their race. >Servants gain all the abilities you've unlocked for them. All old servants are upgraded when you purchase new servant abilities. Even without any extras, your servants have boosted physical abilities. You can have up to 10 servants.He changed it after we unlocked Chosen
>>30344799hmm, interesting. still doesn't prove beyond a doubt that it was capped at 10 only after we got Chosen, but might explain how there are more then 10 angels if Hyperion never got his version
>>30344791Steward mentioned that the dynamo shell's material was so dense that he had no idea how to recreate it.>>30344764>>30344773Huh. I didn't realize we already had three Servants.
>>30344795I enjoyed the hell out of that. It would be a bit to dickish, were the leader and we should maintain our composure when facing world leaders for diplomacy. Now if a fight starts or if he insults us or ours then it fucking on.
>>30344819You could go check the Archives, If this were an argument mid thread then i would but bleh i don't feel like it.
>>30344821>Sandolphon comes alone>starts shit with us>suddenly us plus Ila/Abby/Adavan grow wings>Sandy's face when surrounded by Shadow Angels
>>30344838eh same, talk for another time
>>30344847I just want lla to have her "you aren't the only one with wings" moment. especially since she is such strong shadow. It would offend them soooooooo much.>>30344855yeah
>>30344820>Steward mentioned that the dynamo shell's material was so dense that he had no idea how to recreate it.I can see it now, spends centuries trying to find the secret in dwarven ruins...<Hey Steward, is this it in this file cabinet?>"Impossible, I've checked that cabinet 835 times"<You checked under C for Core casing right?>"Affirmative"<Somebody filed it under K>Stewards face
GuysWhat if Sandy outs us as Erberus?He knows we're around since we went super saiyan during our first angel encounter.Maybe now is a good time to let the cat out of the bag on that one.
>>30344864even better if an angel realizes who she is and that she was a slave
>>30344907if he couldn't tell who we were when we pretended to be Fang's summon and were right next to him in elemental form, doubt a human us would scream Erebus to him
>>30344911Oh they'll know. and it'll be glorious. Slaves looking their former masters in the face.Thinking about it, why wasn't there a conflict between lla and Auriel? or was it just kinda minor?
>>30344945eh, kinda. they didn't go at each others throats but there was palpable tension and we had to diplomancy them to put that shit in the past and grow up like big girls
>>30344934ofuk i forgot all about that
>>30344963Ehh it was awhile ago, that's why i'm rereading.
>>30344934yeah, for the Highest he ain't to bright. sometimes i think that helmet if for more than show or protection
>>30344984Too many knocks on the head during the Elementomachy?Jokes aside, Sandalphon does seem kind of like us in that he's a blunt-force kind of guy.
>>30344997But we're not a dick.
>>30344984They're all shitbad at detecting stealth on the fly.Remember how Lucifer was flying around us and trying to attack us, but couldn't beat our straight 40s rolls? Several times in a row?Unless they prepare a massive DETECT SNEAK spell, they can't do shit.
>>30344997yes and no, I think he prefers to straight forward approch but where we try to force the unimportant stuff aside til further notice he just doesn't give a fuck. side effect of being the big man in charge for 700 years i guess
>>30345005>we could become one though, only while its funny though
>>30345008To be fair, we have some massive fucking stealth bonuses.
>>30345030>People use that Descartes for Shadow Quest>They don't seem to realize that I made it for BFQIts original purpose was to jokingly suggest that people just roll with the constant raping instead of constantly arguing about the moral objectability of fucking a mindslave to recharge mana.
>>30345114And they aren't even maxed out yet!Completing the physical shadow tree will surely give a completion bonus for more stealth. OI gives more stealth. The thing after OI probably gives more stealth, and if it doesn't then that tree's completion bonus probably will.
>>30345124>if you've gotta better pic to that has to do with Shadow and dick then hand it over
>>30345138>Completed Shadow Tree>Unlocked: Nothing>You are so well hidden at all times, no one can find you>Seriously, where'd you go?Quest Over