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Suptg Archive:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Shadow+Quest+
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Archive compiled with story posts and pictures for an easier read, as well as ability and metadata tables:(big thanks to contributors, especially Sorry!):

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/akcvpyo893vvae6/ieUkT-2X3j
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Twitter (quest times, cancellations, updates):

https://twitter.com/ShadowMaster_tg
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Theme music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLTQ5PlEWko
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Notes on Rolls and Voting:

When I request rolls, each set of three rolls counts for one action. For example, a two-step plan would take the first 6 linked rolls. A particularly bad failure can interrupt a string of actions.

When rolling 1d100, I will consider criticals within the first ten linked rolls. Only criticals that occur in the first three rolls will be counted as "supercrits". This is still the case even if you'd have plan long enough to require more than ten rolls.

When rolling 1d20, the rules are the same, but I only consider criticals for the first five rolls, rather than ten. Criticals in the first three are still "supercrits".

When a plot choice results in extensive debate, I'll try to weed out the most popular trains of thought, and then call a vote on them. When voting, please respond with only a link back to the post and the number corresponding to your opinion. Other votes are discounted, including those with dice rolls or extra spaces.

Finally, note that this is not a democracy; it is a benevolent dictatorship.
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Arland Summit Summary: Goals, Objectives, and Major Characters (thanks to Sorry for helping me and the players out!):

http://pastebin.com/FsP2C5Hr
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Your gathered allies have arrived in Arland, a war council set to gather their combined forces to face the demons and mages of Kan-Abar.

At the moment, you have the strong support of Matthel Flint; Hemmelus, the sage; the Lord Imil Anderson; and, hopefully, Harvan Flint.

Firmly against you stand Gerald Flint, Lord Prule Waterford, and Arcturis Flint himself.

You've worked with Yi Fang, Hemmelus, and Adavan to trace the other end of Donovan's parasite, and you are now in the bowels of Dobshire, beneath the bedrock upon which the citadel sits.
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Ability Tree

GREEN abilities have been unlocked and learned.

BLUE abilties are unlocked, but are not yet purchased.

RED abilities are revealed, but locked due to prerequisites.

UNDERLINED abilities are active-use, as opposed to passive. Not all active abilities require mana.

All Revealed Ability Descriptions:

http://pastebin.com/UBdTaB14

Books the Main Character has read:

http://pastebin.com/dAXR00gP

Character Sheet including learned abilities and other important information:

http://pastebin.com/JjjiRx6u
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Current Statistics:

HP: 81/81
Mana: 42/58
EXP: 0

Shards of Order and Chaos:

(Retribution) - Strong
(Maker) - Strong
(Silence) - Strong
(Peace) - Strong
(Breeze) - Empowered
(Hammer) - Strong
(Ardor) - Strong
{Resolve} - Empowered
{Humanity} - Resonant

--Summoned--

Wisp - 1 mana to order

--Automatons--

Vita (Shade)

--Equipment--

Utility belt with purse

--Inventory--

Aurora Water Gem (pocket)
Shade (pocket)

--Teleport Anchor--

Haven - Inner Fortress

--Current Location--

Dobshire

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Known Mana Pools:

Jacob's Field - entrance to Hecate's tomb - Spirit
Palthair Mines - Magnock's Lair - Spirit
Archon - Spirit District - Spirit
Archon - Shadow District - Shadow
Archon - Earth District - Earth
Archon - Water Distric - Water
Haven - Shadow
Abbotsford - Shadow
Aurora - Water
Va'ad - South Generator - Earth
Va'ad - North Generator - Earth
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What I thought was the best course of action from the last thread:
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I feel like the best thing we could do is ....

Confront arcturius at the castle on the way back, like we're out for a walk.
and be like
"Look king, i didn't want to say this in front of guests, but there's a really powerful curse on your son and its time we told you about it."
"The reason we're here, now, is because we've found a way to remove it safely - and I mean myself, fang, and the others that can see it."
"I suppose what i'm asking for is your blessing, since this is your land and I don't want to be a rude guests. I'd do anything for my friends, and your son is the best one I have."

And just hit him in his feelings.
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Other ideas:
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I want to discuss things with Arty first regardless, even if just to say "Yo, Flint's my bro, angels are actually evil, I still want this alliance to go down so we can stand against the demons and Ring City but I'm fucking this spell up regardless so later."
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Actually, we should just destroy the spell tonight, with Fang's help, and then tomorrow, tell the king that the spell was destroyed and Sandalphon will blame him when he finds out. That way the king will be forced to side with us regardless, because he will need protection from Sandalphon.
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Sup SM.
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>Last time...

You flit across the room.

Your senses didn't betray you - there's a river on one side of the cavern, just exposed above the ground. You slip into it, keeping a limb on the stone to hold yourself in place. There's a firm current, but not anything you couldn't swim against.

They didn't notice you at all. Metatron stands before the mirror, his palms out.

Arcturis taps a flint on the stone. "Tonight!" His voice echoes around the room.

"He was probably sleeping," Metatron says. He glances over his shoulder, and his eyes flash red. "Moreover, there are limits even to my patience, Lord Flint. The Most High is not at your beck and call. But I sympathize with your situation, and so here I stand, calling upon him. Please control yourself."

Arcturis settles on his feet and folds his arms. Metatron turns back to the mirror.

Luckily, the exchange gives you more than enough time to Analyze the room, and its occupant. Metatron is Light - as are all the angels - and Fire. Like Lucifer, he has a strong secondary element. More interesting, though, is that metal armor, almost like a second skin. You doubt he's as quick as Lucifer, but he's probably a lot sturdier. Taking him on alone would be an extremely dangerous prospect...

The spell, itself, seems to speak to you. Eight elements. All eight. Every shade of Chaos. And then you see it - the other end of the shel'kath, embedded in the spell.

They're collecting Donovan's power to make this thing work. You can only conclude that seven other mages have already had their turn...

And you can tell that this is a summoning spell. It's THE summoning spell. But what it intends to summon...that, you can only guess at.

The mirror begins to waver.

>con't
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Sandalphon's visage appears within the ivory boarders. "Metatron. I hope you - ah. The Lords Flint."

"Most High," Arcturis growls. "You lied to me."

"He is aware," Metatron says, "that you Donovan's life has been...effected...by the shel'kath."

"And?"

"And." Arcturis clenches his fists. "And?! You said he would be unharmed!"

"Is he living, and breathing?" Sandalphon says. "Has he not found love with that whore traitor?"

Metatron blinks. "Most High. Auriel - "

"Was a failure before Hyperion blessed her, and was weak-willed panderer to public opinion after he blessed her. What he saw in her I do not know, but I respected her stature because Hyperion's judgement lies above ours. But now that she has shown her true colors, we will deal with her in time." He looks at Arcturis. "What do you want from me, Lord Flint? It is late."

"We find another mage, tomorrow," Arcturis says. "I will not have my son bound by this thing any further. Or I'll join in with Archon, Sandalphon, and I swear by the elements, I am not bluffing."

"Arcturis," Sandalphon says, "we are about to summon the Lord of Light back from the Core of Chaos. Do not test me."

"I'm not testing you," Arcturis says. "I'm telling you!"

"You don't have a choice."

"What?! You will not - after lying to me for decades, I will not allow - "

"Half your nobles would side with me," Sandalphon says. "The Black Lady has been managed. I will arrive in Arland tomorrow. Do not touch the spell. If you do, I will have no choice but to conclude that you have turned against Hyperion Himself, and you may rail your complaints against the bars of the prison in Nelmar."

"I - "

>con't
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Remember the three step plan

1.Destroy and disrupt the summoning spell TONIGHT
2.Have Donovan tell daddy Flint that he destroyed the summoning ritual
3.Bring forth the Black Lady before Sandlethong shows up.
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"I will not repeat myself. I have waited 700 years for this, Lord Flint. You were not there when Erebus annihilated our armies, the four elemental lords. You were not there when the world fell to chaos. You were not there when I rebuilt it from ash and smoke. You were not there when I spared your grandfather Yi Fang's wrath so that Arland might have its day. We would not be having this conversation had my healers not saved your life when you were a child. I will not be denied the return of the Lord of Light, I will not have the masterstroke that I and my angels have worked on for CENTURIES, RUINED, BECAUSE IN YOUR OLD AGE YOU HAVE A FEW GUILTY MISGIVINGS!"

"...is what has happened to Donovan permanent?"

"Grow a damn spine." His visage vanishes. Arcturis is left there, staring at his feet.

"Father," Matthel says, "I'm sorry."

"Sorry." Arcturis turns to his son. "That's why you defended him. You stuck with him. You knew. You felt guilty. Did you ever truly love your brother at all?"

In that moment, Matthel looks so hurt that you almost feel bad for him.

Almost.

"...I love Donovan," Matthel says. "But if he knew..."

"Don't try to fool yourself. If he knew, he'd still be against it."

"Gentlemen," Metatron says. "You'd best get some sleep. I have a spell to maintain. Tomorrow is sure to be a tumultuous day."

Arcturis and Matthel make for the elevator.

What do you do now?

>try to slip in after them
>remain in the room
>escape down the river
>some other strategy
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>>30222248

wassup
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I'd say slip in after them, can always strike up a conversation on the way back.
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>>30222290
>remain in the room
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>>30222290
>escape down the river

then make way to Flint ASAP
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>>30222290
I'd say slip in after them, since there's a chance Flint and company are on their way right now.
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>>30222328
Oh you friend, you and me. We're the same.
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>>30222290
>escape down the river
This way we can come back through the river.
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>>30222290
>try to slip in after them

If we decide to talk to Arty before disrupting the spell, we should follow him and call off the gang.
If we're disrupting the spell and worrying about damage control after, we still should regroup with everyone and come down with backup.
If we disrupt it before killing metalface, we'll have a superpowered light knight on our side.
Either way, we'll need to follow these guys out of here and send a message to our group before taking action.
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>>30222290
>try to slip in after them
Metatron would probably wreck our shit and we've got to make sure that Flint doesn't kill Arcturius in a fit of rage.

Regardless, we need to get back down here later to fuck this summoning system up before Sandalthong gets to Arland.
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>>30222354
+1
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>>30222290
Do we NEED Flint here to destroy the Shel'Kath or can we just do it and solve the problem?
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>>30222274
Just saying it now that motherfucker DOES NOT look pure light
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Wait how the hell far down are we. I saw something about bedrock.
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>>30222290
10 mana Nightblaze.

Is only reasonable, yes?
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>>30222290
>remain in the room
Lets wait until he leaves and then fuck some shit up big time.
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>>30222403
Very.
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Alright, someone requested this be pasted to the new thread:

"I feel like the best thing we could do is ....

Confront arcturius at the castle on the way back, like we're out for a walk.
and be like
"Look king, i didn't want to say this in front of guests, but there's a really powerful curse on your son and its time we told you about it."
"The reason we're here, now, is because we've found a way to remove it safely - and I mean myself, fang, and the others that can see it."
"I suppose what i'm asking for is your blessing, since this is your land and I don't want to be a rude guests. I'd do anything for my friends, and your son is the best one I have."

And just hit him in his feelings."

Standby for brainstorming!

Also this:
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Guys, we need to decide what we do, NOW.

The way i see it, we have three options:

1) Wait for them to leave, and fight NOW.
2) Slip in the elevator and maybe think about convincing arcturius to change his mind
3)Escape, warn our allies, and come right back down, and beat metatron's ass with the help of our allies right above the cathedral"

Favor last thread seemed to be for:
Slip out
Speak to/break arcturius's loyalty
Come back with friends
Beat metatrons ass
Steal/consume the mirror
Kill the shael-kath and free fling
then stick the near- completed spell in our Pocket and hold hyperion's return hostage when sandy shows up tomorrow.
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>>30222290
>escape down the river
This secures an easy way back.
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>>30222350
I mean since we got our Wisp to tip off Flint with the out-of-context quotes, Donovan might be pretty steamed right now, even though his dad isn't as huge a jerk as we thought.

Also Matthel might encourage the misunderstanding to get his dad out of the way, since Arcturius seems to be being difficult.
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>>30222290
>>30222428

>>escape down the river

Escape down the river, catch arcturious out for a walk at night, returning to the castle.

Use telepathy to inform our allies what's going on on the way.

Then enact plan beatdown, depending on what arcturius has to say in private

Essentially>>30222428
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Vote 1:
>remain in the room

Vote 2:
>slip into the elevator with Arcturis and Matthel

Vote 3:
>escape down the river
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>>30222473
2
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>>30222473
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Wait a second
Metatron < Lucy
I think we might be able to kill him.
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>>30222473
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>>30222473
3
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Just caught up from the archives, and I have to say SM, this quest is pretty sex.
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>>30222487

yes, BUT we shouldn't DO IT NOW


Donovan NEEDS TO KNOW, as do our allies sitting outside the cathedral about to be caught by arcturius and matthel going up!
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>>30222473
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>>30222473
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>>30222504

Glad to hear it!
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>>30222379
We probably don't need him, but it'd be nice to see what he can do at full power. Assuming we can just 420blaze the spell and instantly get Flint to full strength.
With our luck, all the power would probably fuck Flint over somehow though.

>>30222403
>>30222405
>>30222419
There is nobody here who wants to leave this thing going until Sandals gets here, but we know the way back so there is literally no reason to get back to the group.
Keep in mind that they know the king and Matthel were talking, but not that the king didn't know. We don't want them to start shit when we have the spell to worry about.

>>30222428
>Slip out
>Speak to/break arcturius's loyalty
>Come back with friends
>Beat metatrons ass
>Steal/consume the mirror
>Kill the shael-kath and free fling
>then stick the near- completed spell in our >Pocket and hold hyperion's return hostage >when sandy shows up tomorrow.
I'd say just disrupt the spell before fighting Metatron, don't see much point in keeping the spell, and there's a risk Sandals ends up finishing it anyway. Hopefully we'll be able to get Arcturius to side with us or use the "they angels will blame you" threat to get him on our side, and have the entire city repel Sandals.

>>30222504
Welcome to Shadow Quest.
Enjoy your stay.
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>>30222473
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>>30222473
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>>30222473
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Just got home! I typed this up last night and it ended up being a little too long to post in here, so here is a pastebin link to some of my ramblings on this

http://pastebin.com/SNhpvyGu
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>>30222533
>there is literally no reason to get back to the group.
No reason to NOT get back to the group.
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>>30222473
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>>30222473
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>>30222428

I hate this plan Veto.

i would much rather just force Arcturis's hand

And i don't want Hyperion back, I doubt he would be very happy with us and it could start Elementomachy 2 electric boogaloo
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>>30222533
>but we know the way back so there is literally no reason to get back to the group.
It requires wind magic, possibly from one of the Flints, to get back.
So we need to convince Arcturius to help if we leave.

We CAN'T fuck up the diplomacy roll if we leave, or else we're fucked. Absolutely fucked to the point that we'll have to go XP hunt like mad and then Erasure the whole thing.
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>>30222473
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>>30222473
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>>30222473
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>>30222533
I'd say just disrupt the spell before fighting Metatron, don't see much point in keeping the spell, and there's a risk Sandals ends up finishing it anyway. Hopefully we'll be able to get Arcturius to side with us or use the "they angels will blame you" threat to get him on our side, and have the entire city repel Sandals.

Guys, this is delicate as shite.

I'm not saying we delay until sandy gets here, but i AM saying we act ont his information TONIGHT.

The ~only~ reason i say we don't eat the spell is because.....
.... Hyperion is the only source of anything in the world which could convince the angels to stop being dicks and get off their asses and help.
And we can dreamwalk through the nether to talk to him.
that alone makes the possibility of keeping the spell around worth considering.
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>>30222532
Can we consume the spell?
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Why the fuck do people want to slip in with Matthel and Arcturus?

We can't go back that way without tipping off Metatron, we can't talk to them right now without causing a huge mess, we can't get to our allies easily and get them here without securing a route for them to follow.

At least set a portal here before leaving if you're all going to be this stupid.
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>>30222473
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>>30222553
Because Flint and Yi Fang are waiting outside the cathedral hoping to ask Arcturius some very pointed questions?

And Matthel might spin the whole thing to his advantage?
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>>30222473

cutting off votes
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>>30222620
>At least set a portal here before leaving if you're all going to be this stupid.
This. We need an alternate route into here.

Using the elevator to get back is retarded.
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>>30222620
It's because we made a mistake by sending Wisp and might cause a severe misunderstanding that we cannot afford right now.
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>>30222590
>i would much rather just force Arcturis's hand

Alright, HOW do we do that?

>>30222590
Well im vetoing your veto because that guy actually has a plan, and i'm fairly sure you're a troll suggestion.
taking the spell hostage is a means of getting Sandy to stop being a douche and listen, and we can also potentially repurpose it to summon a different lord back. Its a powerful artifact worth considering keeping around
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>>30222652
too late for that, unless people don't mind us pocketing the.(but there is a problem with the old mage.
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>>30222652
>>30222620
Isn't the portal like super obvious though
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>>30222620
>At least set a portal here before leaving if you're all going to be this stupid.
Good idea.
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Roll 1d100
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>>30222652
Can we do that without Metatron noticing us? Doesn't seem very stealthy.
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>>30222648

Blink us into the elevator, at least, since it doesn't interrupt stealth

Also, EVERYONE here needs to read past this point in last thread
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/30199228/#p30207648
Because there's a lot of good ideas and we need to continue that train of thought on how to play this and not fuck up the negotiations.
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>>30222685
Not if you put it in a place that isn't. Like underwater.

Then just put people in the Pocket for a sec and dump them out afterwards.
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Rolled 63

>>30222688
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Rolled 70

>>30222688
It begins
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Rolled 8

>>30222688
let's go
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Rolled 91

>>30222688
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I will allow you to change your portal anchor to this room if you'd like.

Yes/no?
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>>30222677
So anything that doesn't agree with you is a troll?
>taking the spell hostage is a means of getting Sandy to stop being a douche and listen
not him, but wow.that is a horrible idea in the making and i would rather fuck up his plans instead.remember that little nat 1.
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Rolled 89

>>30222688

oh god why would you guys go out of the super stealthy river, that has an exit strategy in it, and is faster than the elevator anyway.
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Rolled 83

>>30222688
Sure
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>>30222677
you heard what sandlethong said he would do if the spell was disrupted, he will have no choice but to come join our alliance for protection, plus it gives us the perfect opportunity to introduce the Black Lady.
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Shadow Master is it feasible to seal off the room from leaking and filling it with water with our magic? Our ability to move unimpeded through water combined with being Metatrons natural weakness should allow us to fuck him hardcore.
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Rolled 27

>>30222711
Y
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>>30222711
Yes.

Make it underwater and out of the way.
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>>30222711
Yes.
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>>30222711
y
>>30222702
there is the sage problem though.
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>>30222711
Yes
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>>30222711
yea
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>>30222711
Where is the original portal anchor set at the moment?
Xile?
We can still Tp back there through mana portals, right?
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>>30222711
No, we can just walk down here/punch our way through.
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Rolled 75

>>30222688
here we go
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>>30222719
Because we have no idea where the river leads?

And for all we know, Donovan is already storming through the cathedral RIGHT NOW?
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>>30222711
Make sure it's out of site.

Not underwater since we could end up flooding our end like that.
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>>30222719
Maybe we can keep listening to the Flints, or at least keep them from getting away
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>>30222755
nope its at haven, people argued to change it to there, after leaving xile.
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>>30222721
>you heard what sandlethong said he would do if the spell was disrupted, he will have no choice but to come join our alliance for protection, plus it gives us the perfect opportunity to introduce the Black Lady.

Yeah, but Disrupt doesn't mean Destroy.
If we kill the shal-kath and free flint, then ther's no power going into the spell to finish it.
Then we steal the spell, and.... its no longer a threat of being finished or used.
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>>30222755

It's currently set to Haven, near the shadow mana pool.

You didn't discover any mana pools while in Xile. All known mana pools are posted at the start of each thread.
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Rolled 60

>>30222755
We can just use nyxystix
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>>30222785
We're not doing shit until we get the Four Element Sage to examine the spell and see just how it works.

I don't want to accidentally fuck everything up.
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>>30222724
>Shadow Master is it feasible to seal off the room from leaking and filling it with water with our magic? Our ability to move unimpeded through water combined with being Metatrons natural weakness should allow us to fuck him hardcore.

Pounce Metatron from stealth.
Throw him in Pocket - 1 mana
Remove air from pocket - 1 mana

Wait 5 minutes.
Remove Meta from pocket
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>>30222785

we don't even know if it's possible to steal this spell, for all we know if it gets moved away from this spot/stops receiving magic it will fall apart.
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>>30222785
>ther's no power going into the spell to finish it.
All it needs is light magic, if sandy comes he can finish the spell himself.
Also i feel like he would know instantly when the spirit is killed.
>Then we steal the spell
How exactly?
>its no longer a threat of being finished or used
Assumptions are dangerous.
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>>30222561 here. Any thoughts, or am I just only throwing out bad ideas and stuff that has already been said?
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>>30222771
>>30222735

You are in a cylindrical cave-like room with many stalactites; almost a half-circle. The longest flat wall is where the river runs.

Where would you like the portal anchor? Obvious choices I can think of off the top of my head are

>underwater
>on the ceiling

>>30222816

Note that an offensively-used Pocket is subject to magical resistance.
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>>30222816
Somehow I doubt it'll be that simple, we haven't even tested pocket on someone who didn't want to be pocketed much less the 3rd highest angel.
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>>30222854
>on the ceiling
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Rolled 83

>>30222854
Underwater. We can always move our allies inside of ourselves.
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>>30222828
>>Then we steal the spell
>How exactly?
>>its no longer a threat of being finished or used
>Assumptions are dangerous.

You need to read the last thread.
The spell's worked into spell sigils, spread across the terrain.

we.... have earth magic and pocket. There's nothing stopping us from literally Grand Thefting the entire thing out of the chamber.

Also, here's the clincher for stealing it:

I don't want to Consume or, or Destroy it, because just moving it doesn't take die rolls.
No die rolls, no chance for it to blow up in our faces.
having someone else examine it/do it for us also removes out dice from the equation.
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>>30222854
If we opened a portal underwater, would all the water flow out on the other end?

This is important.
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>>30222883
>I don't want to Consume or, or Destroy it, because just moving it doesn't take die rolls.
>No die rolls, no chance for it to blow up in our faces.
>having someone else examine it/do it for us also removes out dice from the equation.

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER

play around the dice! genius!
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>>30222895
I was thinking this too, might end up giving us away if this happens
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>>30222883
>>30222912
20:39
20:40
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>>30222854
>>on the ceiling
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>>30222561
we destroy the spell.

we can not let Hyperion back into this world before we consolidate our forces.

The same with the other Elemental Lords.
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>>30222895

Yes.

Unless you opened it in a space with greater environmental pressure. Then the water would be pushed back.
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>>30222912
>>30222883
probably still need to roll to avoid alerting Meta or setting off some auto magical defense thing
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>>30222854
>on the ceiling
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>>30222941
Then the cieling.
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>>30222941
Then let's try the ceiling.

>>30222937
Even Hecate? Because Adavan might disagree to that.
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>>30222942

I'd take a roll to alert meta over blowing up the world ANY day.
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>>30222883
>we.... have earth magic and pocket. There's nothing stopping us from literally Grand Thefting the entire thing out of the chamber.
Was this confirmed?
>having someone else examine it/do it for us also removes out dice from the equation.
This is will still require the roll of either SM or the player for the characters to analyze it.
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Rolled 76

>>30222932
Cut down on the paranoia, anon.
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>>30222883
>>30222912
>implying
>so much damn implying
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>>30222937
To destroy the spell would be an act of war not only against the Ring City, but with Arland herself, and it would hurt everything we've been working towards with this summit. I'm not saying do nothing, but that doesn't seem like such a good idea to me.
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>>30222854
>on the ceiling
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>ceiling

>writing
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>>30222993

This is yet another case for stealing the spell, actually.

putting Hyperion on the negotiation table is a huge gamechanger.

The prospect of the angels getting it back - even if we never let them ahve it -will make them way more inclined to listen after they get over being angry, instead of just being angry forever.
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>>30222941
We could always just put it underwater, and then open the portal while we're underwater elsewhere(and have everyone in our pocket for this, of course.)

People are probably just going to go ceiling but this would be the most stealthy.
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>>30222993
We're going to war with the Ring City, it's inevitable. With regards to destroying the spell, stopping the RC from summoning their God qualifies as a good idea.
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It seems that we could use this to convince papa Flint that Ring City a shit and he should side with us instead of just bending over for Sandals.
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>>30222963

Hecate is weak and she will be indebted to us for freeing her, she is the exception to the rule.

We do not know how the other Elemental Lords will react.
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>>30222993
It was was declaration of war to release their slaves.
This is just driving the point home.
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>>30223015
why do you think stealing is so safe in the first place?
It has been confirmed that they are arranged in a certain way and moving them can do anything and that is assuming they don't have magic protections on it.
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>>30223015

Now that you mention it, returning an elemental lord to the lands is such a world-altering event that really all the nations should have a say with it.

The problem with the angels is they are all dicks that are stuck in the past, and cannot move on from the Elementomachy mindset - they oppress people, they keep slaves, they use this entire war as an excuse for political gain - the world is better off moving FORWARD without the angels, and without the grudge-holding lords from their time
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>>30222993
>>30223015
I thought the whole point was to get Arland on our side against Ring City, not make diplomacy with Ring City. Because, you know, angels are unwavering hypocritical dickbags and any treaty we try to make with them would end in us getting shafted.
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>>30223072
We are allied with several angels.
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>>30223031
The important part of my statement wasn't so much the ring city art, but the Arland part. Arcturis is already wary of us and YI, to destroy the spell would mean a continued war with Arland even after the Kan'Abar situation is resolved.
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>>30223094
he means the zionist angels
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What if we sent Hyperion through a crucible of Order when he pops out of the portal all weak?
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>>30223094
Okay, the angels who are still in Ring City and didn't defect to haven.
The angels that still follow the highests that aren't Auriel.
The angels who had no problems with mass slavery and refuse to even fathom working with a being of shadow simply because it's black and icky.
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>>30223094
You really think bringing out gods of choas out is a good idea, especially when they warped the land around them?
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>>30223072

Hyperion's coming to arland -in the morning- and what do you think he'll do if he finds out His 700 Year Old Masterstoke was foiled?

He'll blame arland and attack immediately.
In the middle of negotiations.
When nobody is formally on any side
Its literally the worst thing that could happen at this time.

We need something that will get him to NOT do that.

We don't want to diplomacy the angels.
But they're going to barge into the meetings anyway, and we're gonna have to anyway.

We knew this was happening.

The key is to not get them to flip the table as soon as they join the game.
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>>30223141
Rapheal seems pretty cool. And it seems only the few higher ups even know what Sandals is up to.
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>>30223133
He is very against and after the little stunt sandy did he would be for it, but is only backing off because half his nobles are in bed with sandy.
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>>30223160

This is the other alternative i was thinking of.

Pre-empt sandy's arrival, and go hunt him right now, and make raphael be the ambassador in his stead
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>>30223147
Actually, if they do try to attack and someone, say the Black Lady, sweeps in to stop him we've set things up pretty well for ourselves and shut the Ring City out entirely.
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>>30223147
>He'll blame arland and attack immediately.
Then he will fight Shadow, Fang, and the Black Lady at once.

Sandals is strong, but he is not a fool.
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>>30223147
I don't give a shit if sandalfag gets mad, Flint deserves his life back and he's getting it tonight
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>>30223147
>Its literally the worst thing that could happen at this time.
If we time it with the Black Lady arriving to assist Arland against Ring City it might be the best thing to happen.
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>>30223133
Or we could do the smart thing and get him on our side beforehand like so many have suggested, either way the spell needs to die before Sandelephon arrives for Donovan and Arlands sake.

>>30223193
He seems pretty foolish to me most of the time but your point does remain.
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>>30223049
>why do you think stealing is so safe in the first place?
>magic protections on it.

Its at least as dangerous as consuming or dispelling it. That thing is such a powerful spell, a nightblaze may not even dent it, and it probably packs at least as much power as a dynamo if not more - and we know how dangerous that can be.

Anti-tamper safeties/security ..... will be triggered by other meddling besides stealing, anyway, though.

I'd ask you: why do you think any of the options are safer? Protections are in place no matter what.
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>>30223147
No the key is to get everyone to look at the Ring City like the major assholes they are and get them to chose to ally themselves with the Black lady instead.

they best way to do that is to get sandlethong to throw a big hissyfit, threaten to destroy and subjugate Arland.
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>>30223193
Don't forget Steward. If he's anywhere near as strong as 002, then it will be one hell of a stomping.
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>>30223214
>I don't give a shit if sandalfag gets mad, Flint deserves his life back and he's getting it tonight

Yes, but we need to do it in such a way that it doesn't blow up everything we've worked for.
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All this discussion.

All this actual meaningful discussion and clashing of ideas.

This is good, /tg/.
SM, you have made a good quest.

So...

What are we doing?
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>>30223271
He mentioned having 003 as a backup secret weapon or something. I shudder to think of what that is.
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We need to get Fang and Hemmelus down here.

Three of the most powerful mages of the world should be able to deal with Metatron, and then destroy the spell without blowng everything up.
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>>30223253
I never said they are safer, but stealing it has no real gain for us in any way imaginable other than hoping it doesn't make things worse, or that what ever activates won't be as bad.
1.Exp
2.Frees Flint
3.Ruins sandies day
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>>30223300
1.Destroy summoning spell free Flint from his curse
2.Tell Daddy Flint what happened
3.Offer daddy Flint a way out in the form of our Alliance and the Black Lady
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So, in my humble opinion, shouldn't we find a mana pool to get some mana back or use that teleport thing to a mana pool to regen it?

Or can that not be done since we changed the anchor?
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>>30223300
I honestly think we need to fuck up the spell in some way tonight.

Stealing, disrupting, destroying; it doesn't matter. That thing needs to not work by the time Sandals gets here.

Then we can take the giant hissyfit he'll throw as the perfect opportunity to intro the Black Lady like other anons were saying.
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>>30223175
Which is why we talk it out with him and figure out something together without going behind his back. Regardless of what we tell Arcturis, those nobles will still be in bed with Sandalphon.

>>30223227
I agree with the idea to get him on our side, but to rush the destruction of this spell could doom this alliance before it ever got started.
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Personally, I'm in favour of just stretching out as wide as possible and erasing this entire cavern, Metatron included.

But I acknowledge that this plan most certainly will not help the diplomatic situation. I just think that the risk of Hyperion returning and kicking off Elementomachy II: Electric Boogaloo is too great for this circle to exist for even one more day.
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>>30223327
I feel like it's very important that Hemmelus examine the spell and find out exactly what it does.

For all we know, Metatron and Sandalphon could be lying about the goal being freeing Hyperion, and it could just be Sandalphon trying to become Hyperion 2.0, or even just blow up the planet.
>>
We have the biggest opportunity ever.

To beat Sandalphon down, and have him watch as we grap Hyperion's hand and pull him out of the portal and say "Hello, I'm Shadow. Erebus is dead as of [whatever date we finally gathered all our shards]"
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>>30223353
>>30223349
I'd love to combine these with bringing our party to face Metatron, since he'll be the obvious obstacle here... Is there anyone other than the three mages and bamby knight out there we'll want with us?
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>>30223394
Better roll three 100s or that will fail.
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>>30223354
>but to rush the destruction of this spell could doom this alliance before it ever got started.
>rush the destruction of this spell could doom this alliance before it ever got started.
.rush the destruction of this spell could doom this alliance before it ever got started.
>rush the destruction of this spell could doom this alliance before it ever got started.

>>30223349
>>30223329

You guys have this idea that we can just do one thing, and it will make everything go our way.

You need to step back, go over the negotiations, and realize this is a complex as shit situation - anything we do, we HAVE TO SPIN to get the result we want.

going 'blah blah blah black lady makes us autowin alliance' is a great thought and all, but you seriously need to start thinking about the dialogue, convincing, and how we play this.

We have about eight-twelve hours to:
Prepare for sandalthongs arrival
Disrupt the spell somehow

Not have the alliance fall apart in anger and blame over those two things.
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>>30223353
We CAN'T be sloppy about this though.

This seems like something that could cause another core breach.
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>>30223404

We can take Metatron our self thanks to based Earth tree, I believe we did kill Lucifer and he was 2nd highest so I think we can take this guy.
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>>30223462
Lucifer kind of wasn't us though.
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You need to be able to get back in this room, and it might have defenses you don't know about. But that won't matter if you can circumvent them.

You quickly attach your portal anchor to the ceiling of the room, nestled between a few stalactites. That should give you at least a little advantage of surprise...

You slip into the elevator with Matthel and Arcturis. They hit the switch. As the door closes, you see Metatron take up his seat in the center of the sigil, folding his legs beneath him.

The elevator grinds upward. For a moment, you're in darkness again.

"...father..." Matthel swallows. "Of course I care about Donovan. But this was bigger - it was more important than any of us. He would feel the same way."

"You know, son," Arcturis says, "I really don't think he would. And I don't think you would, either, were you him." He glances over at his son. "Why did they inform you?"

"...Sandalphon came to me, on one of my visits to the Ring City. He told me of the plan. Said he needed a man in Arland, needed me to watch over things, as Metatron would be sequestered below. I accepted the task."

"You're a damn turncoat, too?"

"It's not like he's going to die or anything," Matthel says. "Yes...it's a sacrifice. But Donovan would do it for the spell. You did."

"I didn't know it would effect him like that!" Arcturis shouts. "It's a fool's game, risky at best. And if Sandalphon has lied about this, well, what else has he lied about? I let him use Arland, because it's in our best interests. Because he promised that he would guarantee our independence and future alliance if I cooperated. And I figured that if the runt could make use of himself, then I might as well go along...but this. I can't stomach it."

"I don't like it either," Matthel says, "but Hyperion will save us, and usher in a new age of prosperity. This is bigger than any of us."

>con't
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>>30223462
The problem is Metatron is physically tougher, and we're weaker to Fire than we are Lightning.
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>>30223462
Lucifer got beat the shit out of by super wind constructs and SkySever fuckery, not us.
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>>30223394

worst idea i have seen all thread.

that is basically giving Shadow Master that 1 to use on a silver plate.
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"My family," Arcturis says, "is more important than a future licking the heals of a force of nature that proclaims itself our master."

"Father!"

"What? You have something to say about that? Shut up, you indoctrinated little twit. I thought you were smarter than this."

The elevator opens. Arcturis and Matthel step into the catacombs and being walking back toward the door leading to the cathedral. You slip into Matthel's shadow.

"It isn't wrong for men to seek their own destiny," Arcturis says. "We don't need greater beings telling us what to do. Look where that got us. Decades of all-out war so fierce that it's taken us centuries to recover. And Sandalphon wants to bring that back."

"He just wants to bring Hyperion back. The problem wasn't Hyperion - it was the lesser elementals, that - "

"If you believe all that tripe, then you really are a fool," Arcturis says.

They reach the door of the cathedral. You are towed along in Matthel's shadow as they ascend the stairwell, and in short order, they're back in the hall leading to the nave.

"Father. What are you going to do?"

"...when Sandalphon gets here tomorrow, I'm going to have a long talk with him," Arcturis says, "and hammer a few fucking things out. In the meantime, we can use our guests as leverage to - "

He stops. Matthel stops behind him. "What is it?"

You're at the door to the nave. Yi Fang, Hemmelus, Adavan, and Donovan are standing at the far end of the rows of pews, having just entered the main doors of the church.

"Father." Donovan has his sword out. It's shaking in his grip. His voice cracks. "Matthel. You knew. You both knew."

What do you do?

>intervene (write-in)
>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow
>do nothing; remain poised in Matthel's shadow
>some other strategy
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>>30223353
I agree.

Sandalphon is going to try to browbeat the Flints into agreeing with him when he comes to Arland tommorow. His entire 700 year plan goes right out the window if this spell is disrupted, and he'll be completely thrown off his game.

I suspect, from what I have seen of Arcturis, that any further bullying from Sandalphon (And Sandalphon will probably blame Arcturis for this) will cause him to turn his back on the Ring City and throw in his lot with Archon. Right then, we bring in the Black Lady. Suddenly, Sandalphon has absolutely nothing going for him.
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>>30223349
>1.Destroy summoning spell free Flint from his curse
>2.Tell Daddy Flint what happened

Should be 2 then 1.

Arcturius is just LOOKING for a way to get out from sandy's thumb
We tell him the truth - that yi fang's presence here is entirely because he's dealt with this stuff before, and he owes us a massive favor - abigail is perfectly able to make archon's decisions.
And then the stinger - that the other cases fang's been involved in have always ended in the death of the host.

This will 100% guarantee he blames sandy for killing - or trying to kill - his son, gets us on his side, AND gives us permission/authority to go fix it when we offer to do so.

Then?

We rush in, beat the spell up, bring the black lady in during the morning before sandy gets here, and boom, gamechanger.

Arcturius on our side, all our nobles we persuaded on our side, sandy checked by all the players on the board, and unable to vent his rage at masterstroke being derailed.
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>>30223527
>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow
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>>30223527
Arcturis is actually that much of a fucking bro?!
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>>30223496
But we did max out our water tree.
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>>30223527
TELL FLINT MENTALLY WHAT WE HEARD FAST. And then the others.

A misunderstanding here will fuck over everything.
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>>30223527
>>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow

Impression to Flint

"< Easy flint. I'm here, in matthel's shadow. I just saw the other end of the parasite, and what it's fueling.>"

<Remember the olden days? Pretend to summon me again. I need an excuse to be here.>
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>>30223527
>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow
THE POWER IS BEING USE TO SUMMON HYPERION

HYPERION IS THE OTHER END OF THE PARASITE.
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>>30223527
>>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow
>>
>>30223527
>Intervene
"More than you know, but less than you think."
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Rolled 71 + 22

>>30223527
>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow
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>>30223527
Alright, not right now, but soon is the best time to tell Arcturus about the soul-slaves and why we attacked Ring City.
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>>30223527
This proves it.
We can get Arcturis against the angels, and easily at that.
We can work with this.
>intervene
Mindspeak the group, tell them what you saw.
Use Flint as proxy to explain:
Tell them EXACTLY what the return of Hyperion means to us, what the angels have done and why they're bad news.
Don't leave the shadows, don't want them to know we tailed them, at least not yet.
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>>30223527
Blink over there and pretend we arrived with them.
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>>30223527
>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow
"Your father is more or less innocent. He thought it would only drain your magical potential, and now that he knows the truth, he is willing to browbeat Sandalphon himself to remove it."
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>>30223527
>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow
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>>30222221
>>30223527


Fuck it, its time for this.
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Rolled 21

>>30223527
>>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow
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>>30223527
>Intervene (Write in)
"More accurately, you're father was misinformed, but still agreed to cripple you magically. , on the other hand, is a fully informed tool of Sandalphon. Who will be here tomorrow by the way."
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>>30223527
>communicate with your allies; remain in Matthel's shadow
Mention that Hyperion is being summoned with Flint's energy, we have a portal in the room, Meta's in there, Sandal's comin to town, and that Matthel's the bigger dick.

Also if things get too heated we should pop out from behind the Flints and jump scare the fuck out of them
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>>30223628

Start with that
and
>>30223577

lead into>>30223621
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>>30223527
BE READY TO JUMP TO ARCTURIUS' DEFENSE.

MATTHEL IS GOING TO KILL HIM TO PREVENT HIM FROM FUCKING UP HYPERION'S GLORIOUS RETURN.

I CAN FEEL IT.
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>>30223595
>>30223621
>>30223622
>>30223637
This. Lay out all the cards.
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>>30223654
Right, forgot to write "Step out of Matty-boy's shadow and say" before the dialogue,
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>>30223575
>>30223575
>>30223575
>>30223575
>>30223575

This is the correct course of action.

<Arcturis is innocent, Matthel is the traitor, and Flint is fueling Hyperion's return.>
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>>30223675
If we stay in his shadow we can Shadow Puppet him.
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>>30223676
Seconding Lay out the Cards
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Oh god I get it now. That explains Yi Fang's overwillingness to help Flint with the parasite.
It strikes at the first group which he may have figured was the Ring City, and it upsets the descendents of his rival.


>>30223675
I told you bro, I told you about being Arcturis' 1d20 save. Get rdy for it.
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>>30223710
Shadow puppet is horribly unreliable compared to bodily blocking the blade / spell.
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>>30223527
>intervene (write-in)

Step out of the shadows to the side of the church. We need to draw attention to ourselves before anybody does anything rash.

"Donovan, your father has been deceived as well. Lord Arcturis Flint had no idea the effect the Shel'kath was having on you.

I must admit, Lord Flint, I have misjudged you. Your words resonate with me more than you could know."
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>>30223724
Yes, but using shadow puppet alongside physically restraining him is better than just physically restraining.
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You have to cut off this misunderstanding before it can get worse. But do you:

Vote 1:
>explain things to Donovan from Matthel's shadow

Vote 2:
>blink to the far corner of the church and emerge from the shadows as John. Give an explanation.
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I can't deal with all this happening
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>>30223762
1
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>>30223762
2
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Rolled 6 + 22

>>30223762
>blink to the far corner of the church and emerge from the shadows as John. Give an explanation.
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>>30223676
>>30223732
>"Donovan, your father has been deceived as well. Lord Arcturis Flint had no idea the effect the Shel'kath was having on you.
>I must admit, Lord Flint, I have misjudged you. Your words resonate with me more than you could know."

"Additionally, this entire meeting of alliance is.... half a pretense, an excuse to cure flint. The entire reason yi fang is here is because he has experience removing the curse-parasites without the death of the host, and we needed a reason for him to be here you would accept."
"I"m sorry, but sandalphon planned the death of your son from the very beginning"
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>>30223762
1
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>>30223762
1
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>>30223762
1
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>>30223762
>explain things to Donovan from Matthel's shadow
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>>30223762
2
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>>30223762

1 then 2
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>>30223762
1
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>>30223762
1
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>>30223762
1
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>>30223762
1
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Rolled 21

>>30223762
1
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>>30223820
>>30223806

I hear ya
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>>30223820
Reply and number only. Otherwise your vote isn't counted.
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>>30223820

Seconding! Option 3

Do 1 to defuse the situation, THEN immediately sucker-punch with #2

Back me up people! Take the third path!
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>>30223841

I don't care about making my vote count, i care about swinging opinon - SM is open to superior plans emerging mid-vote, and has given some leniency in the past.
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>>30223762
1
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Alrighty, I'm writing.
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>>30223762
>2

We are just a mage. A powerful, scary Mage, but definitely human.
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>>30223840

Udaman!
Da shadowman!
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>>30223762
2
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If you're also so paranoid that Matthel is stupid enough to pull something with this many witnesses and powerful mages around you could just pocket him.
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>>30223883
Well, our cover story is that we're basically the greatest shadow mage outside Vampiria, so even if we go full blob mode I doubt anybody would question it.
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More importantly, we need to tell Yi Fang that there's a ritual going on below that will bring back Hyperion. He's going to want to stop that, and he's probably got the firepower to do it.
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>>30223965

This is probably the biggest consideration.

Yes, Flint's parasite needs to be removed tonight.

More importantly, Hyperion cannot return. Ever. At all.
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>>30223949
I think that they would, actually.
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>>30223994
>Ever. At all.
I agree that him returning now is like the worst thing at all but never ever I disagree with.
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>>30223945
You never know what a man with his pants pulled down will resort to. Though I earnestly think he isn't the patricidal type.
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>>30223994
Again, Sandalphon is a lying liar who lies all the time.

We only have his word that that's what the ritual would do.
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>>30224027

The only way I'd consider it is if we had a way to talk to him before returning him.
maybe the same way we encounter Legion?
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>>30223994
Agreed.
>>30223965
Have the sage join him
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>>30224027
I agree with it.

The world does not need elemental lords wandering around because they are invariably dicks who have Elementomachy PTSD.

Shadow gets a pass because he had amnesia.
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>>30223949
Maybe not full on "blob" mode but i'm sure we could get away with good old "Oh look a thousand tentacles/eyes/teeth of darkness are attacking you"
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>>30223965
Metatron is down there. We can go to deal with it together, when we're done with this rather terrible family reunion.
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>>30224065
And I disagree with you because our plans to free Hecate and Geb are hypocritical to that statement.
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>>30224097
Hecate tried to stop the Elementomachy.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DudDYrL02hc

"Donovan," Matthel says. The single name tumbles from his mouth. His eyes are wide.

"...what are you talking about?" Arcturis says. He does a better job of covering. "What is this? Hemmelus, explain!"

<Donovan, I'm in Matthel's shadow,> you say. You thoughts are projected to all four of your allies. <Matthel knew that the shel'kath would effect your life, but Arcturis didn't. He only knew it would drain your magical powers, not...hurt you. Your power is being channeled to a powerful spell under Arland maintained by Metatron on behalf of the Ring City. They're trying to summon Hyperion from the Nether.>

Everyone's heads move from Arcturis, then to Matthel. You watch their eyes search as they try to pinpoint you in his shadow.

And then you Blink to the far corner of the church, and emerge from behind a tapestry. The ruffling cloth draws everyone's gaze. "Donovan. I saw everything." You repeat more or less what you just said, aloud, so that Matthel and Arcturis are part of the reveal.

Donovan takes a step forward. He stares at Matthel. "...why?"

"Donovan, take it easy," Matthel says. "Remember who I am for a second. John is misrepresenting the truth."

"YOU SENT ME TO HELL!" Donovan screams. His voice echoes through the church. "WHY?!"

Matthel draws back, stung by the sound of his brother's voice. Hemmelus strides forward and clasps Donovan's shoulder with a firm hand. "Arcturis, it is -you- that must provide -us- with an explanation! And I will have one!"

What do you do?

>let Arcturis say what he has to say, then reveal the true reason you're here with Donovan and Fang
>some others strategy
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>>30224097
I'd be against those as well, but I do believe I'm outvoted, so there's not much I can do about it.

They're *slightly* more acceptable than Hyperion, because from what we have heard Geb was actually a pretty swell guy.
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>>30224065
Our plan is to bring back the elemental lords in a way that we can make them see balance. Whether that means tempering them with Order or something else entirely remains to be seen.
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>>30224065
>The world does not need elemental lords wandering around because they are invariably dicks who have Elementomachy PTSD.

This is the entire reason the angels are such dicks today, and a point we need to make

>>30224095
>Metatron is down there. We can go to deal with it together, when we're done with this rather terrible family reunion.

We're going to need to go in first, and steal the mirror to prevent him calling for help.

>>30224097
>And I disagree with you because our plans to free Hecate and Geb are hypocritical to that statement.
>>30224048
>The only way I'd consider it is if we had a way to talk to him before returning him.
>maybe the same way we encounter Legion?

ANY RETURN of the elemental lords pretty much depends entirely on their disposition and willingness to let bygones be bygones.
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>>30223994
We do not exactly know what this ritual does, only that it summons something and what Sandalphon said, which we shouldn't trust. If it does bring back Hyperion then now might not be the time for it, but to rule it out entirely when we are trying to bring balance and freedom to all the elements is hypocrisy. This is not our decision alone to make.
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>>30224097
I agree that we need to release some of them, probably starting with Hecate first, but Hyperion is a cockbag and we're leaving him for last, if we even decide to let him out at all.
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>>30224118

>let Arcturis say what he has to say, then reveal the true reason you're here with Donovan and Fang

I mean, let's hear it out. No better time, honestly.
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>>30224027
He's the same old Hyperion from the Elementomachy. The only reason we're not as bloodthirsty as the old Erebus is because we got a memory wipe and met some nice people starting out. Hyperion, however, i going to be just as keen on fighting as he was 700 years ago, if not more so. If he comes back, it'll be Elementomachy 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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>>30224145
Aeolus and Raijin are even bigger dicks.
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>>30224118
>let Arcturis say what he has to say, then reveal the true reason you're here with Donovan and Fang

If Arcturis lies, or Matthel, then we need to reveal to everyone else that they are trying ti bring back Hyperion as well. I am fairly certain that Arcturis will try to stop it if we can just not bullshit him.
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>>30224145
>>30224151

Guys, let's not forget that Erebus started the Elementomachy himself. Hyperion, while a total dickbag, was acting in self-defense initially.
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>>30224118
>>let Arcturis say what he has to say, then reveal the true reason you're here with Donovan and Fang
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>>30224118
"He seems to wanted to do what was best by his country.

Though it would appear he's valuing family more."
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>>30224128
>ANY RETURN of the elemental lords pretty much depends entirely on their disposition and willingness to let bygones be bygones.

Which we can't possibly know until we contact them somehow. Not their followers or anything, but the elemental lords themselves. In most cases this seems to mean resurrecting them in some sense, and Shadow has been all about giving people/things a chance
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>>30224118
Whatever we do we also should mention the soul-slaves and Ring City. Either after Arcturus's explanation or to get him to talk about it.

Also mention about Ila and Auriel following up on Waterford.
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>>30224188
It's entirely possible that Hyperion himself was also a massive cunt of a person. Basically, imagine both Hyperion and Erebus both being colossal, metaphysical douchebags, attempting to outdouche one another.
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>>30224118
>>let Arcturis say what he has to say, then reveal the true reason you're here with Donovan and Fang
>some others strategy

Work in bits of >>30223792
""Additionally, this entire meeting of alliance is.... half a pretense, an excuse to cure flint. The entire reason yi fang is here is because he has experience removing the curse-parasites without the death of the host, and we needed a reason for him to be here you would accept."
"I"m sorry, but sandalphon planned the death of your son from the very beginning""

>>30223732
>I must admit, Lord Flint, I have misjudged you. Your words resonate with me more than you could know."

Those are good lines to work in there.
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>>30224048
>maybe the same way we encounter Legion?
Friendly reminder that if years upon years of time spent in the unfiltered Chaos of the Nether did that to David, it'd be reasonable to assume it has effected Hyperion as well.

>>30224118
>let Arcturis say what he has to say, then reveal the true reason you're here with Donovan and Fang
Time to see if he can bring it upon himself to do the right thing without any further prompting.
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>>30224188
Actually, Aeolus started the whole thing off by getting pissed at airships. Erebus just secretly fanned the flames. Hyperion also attacked Erebus out of paranoia rather than actual defense.

The Greater Elements were the aggressors.
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>>30224118
>let Arcturis say what he has to say, then reveal the true reason you're here with Donovan and Fang
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>>30224222
I like to think of them as opposites.
While erebus tried to stop the spread of chaos, Hyperion tried his best to spread it.
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>>30224188
The elementomachy was Erebus' plan, but it only worked because Hyperion was itching for a fight already.
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>>30224188
Hyperion shot first.
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>>30224188
Don't forget that Hyperion has been stuck in the Nether for centuries, and will probably have turned out just like David, a babbling psychotic mass of shit and festering hate, piss and vinegar.
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>>30224250
Eregreedo pls.
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>Which we can't possibly know until we contact them somehow. Not their followers or anything, but the elemental lords themselves. In most cases this seems to mean resurrecting them in some sense, and Shadow has been all about giving people/things a chance

DREAM WALK
DREAM WALK
DREAM WALKEN

THIS IS MY COMMUNICATION METHOD
MY METHOD OF CHOICE
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>inb4, "It's guarded by an angel! What can you do against such power?!"
>inb4 we get to deliver a badass line about killing two other angels already.
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>>30224260
He did, motherfucker. Justified paranoia or not.
Hyperion shot first. And then made a home over ours.
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>>30224248
>>30224250
>>30224253
>>30224237

All fair points, but Erebus wasn't innocent either - just my two cents.

Anyways, get your popcorn ready because the Flint family is getting READY TO RUUUUUMMMMMMMBLEEEEEE
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>That moment when you realize that the demons are working for Hyperion as well, who is playing both angels and demons to his advantage to double up his chances of being summoned by either side.

>That moment where even when we sort out the Shel'Kath mess, we still have to fucking deal with a Demonic Hyperion manifesting during the war.
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>>30224266

DreamWalk without rhythm
it won't attrack the legion
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>>30224118
> some other strategy
Yi Fang is there.
Communicate with him. Tell him the ritual to bring back Hyperion is nearly done, Sandalphon is coming tomorrow to oversee it, and we need to nuke it NOW.
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>>30224294
I always wondered if you can fuck those.
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>>30224304
I didn't even realize that was a DUNE reference until years after I heard the song.
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>>30224282
If it was Erebus being summoned I would be just as against it.

Good thing we're not Erebus and thus have no Elementomachy bullshit to be guilty about.
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>>30224118
Cure now talk later
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>>30224282

Good thing Erebus is dead and we don't plan to try and summon him from the nether
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>>30224329

>DUNE in all caps

I consider you my brother, random anonymous poster.
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>>30224266
You know what...?! I really didn't think of that. That is a good soundin' plan to me. Team Dreamwalk on all them Elemental Lords a go?
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>>30224294
>>That moment when you realize that the demons are working for Hyperion as well, who is playing both angels and demons to his advantage to double up his chances of being summoned by either side.

Actually, I was thinking about this earlier today, and trying to decide how to bring it up.

Okay, so summoning is a wierd art because anyone can do it. It doesn't take any particular elemental soul, because you're using what's already there - the nether - and the skill comes from shaping/manipulating it.

But there's still skill involved.
Summoning an elemental lord is the pinnacle of summoning. Its brutally hard, difficult and takes lots of power.

Just think about the effort that went into LEARNING the path to even get there!

Like, that's 'summoning demon lords for practice' territory as a stepping stone to get to lords.

Only the most ridiculously skilled summoners could do such a thing.

Of course..... it helps if you're immortal, and used summons during the war so you're already damn good at it.

I don't think Sandalphon was doing.
>to double up his chances of being summoned by either side.

But I do think he summoned the demon lords, or at LEAST taught nulis how to do it, and is workign with them and using them as an excuse to launch his crusade-of-salvation and take the world in under his wing.
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The hall is quiet.

"...Sandalphon..." Arcturis rubs a hand down his mouth. "What John says is true."

"Father, we cannot - "

"Shut UP, Matthel," Arcturis says. He looks up again. "The angels have a plan to return the Lord of Light to the world. Resummon him from the Nether, from where Erebus banished him."

"And I presume," Hemmelus says, "that the soul-sucking leech latched onto Donovan is part of this master plan?"

"It is," Arcturis says. "Sandalphon needed a powerful light mage of good pedigree. None of the angels were compatible, or he simply would have used himself. Something about their blessing disrupted the power transfer by the demon. The demon itself is merely a tool to deposit power from a mage over a long period of time in the spell. Donovan was...lightborn. He was an acceptable candidate." Arcturis looks at his youngest son. "It was for the good of Arland, Donovan. I didn't know it would hurt you like it did. I kept it a secret because something that sensitive had to be kept secret. From those who would disturb it."

"But Matthel," Donovan says. "You knew. You knew it would hurt me!"

"Donovan, think for a second!" Matthel shouts. "This is Hyperion we're talking about! And wasn't I always there for you? Didn't I always stick by you! I took care of you! I made sure you stayed safe!"

"YOU HYPOCRITICAL FUCK!" Donovan shouts. He launches himself forward, wresting free of Hemmelus's grasp. Matthel's hand flies to his sword hilt.

>stop Donovan
>some other strategy
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>>30224370

DO OR DUNE NOT, THERE IS NO TRY
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>>30224393
> And wasn't I always there for you? Didn't I always stick by you! I took care of you! I made sure you stayed safe!"

Yeah, because they needed Donovan alive for the Shel'kath to continue feeding on him.
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>>30224393
Pocket Matthel
"That's enough of that."
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>>30224393
>stop Donovan

"Hyperion is not all he's cracked up to be!"

>begin tirade explanation.
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>>30224386
>I don't think Sandalphon was doing.

Oh, I'm not saying it's Sandalphon's plan. I'm saying it's Hyperion's plan. He's using both angels and demons.
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>>30224393
>stop Donovan
>10 Mana bind Matthel
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>>30224393
>stop Donovan

"Fighting your brother now helps NOTHING, Donovan. We need to deal with your parasite first."
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>>30224393
>stop Donovan
Doom Aura should get their attention.
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>>30224393
>>stop Donovan

"SIR DONOVAN FLINT, save your rage for the angel below. If you want to be free if this curse, HIS blood will have to be spilled, not your family."
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>>30224446
this
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>stop Donovan
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>>30224393

>blink to Donovan's shadow

We made a promise, gentlemen.

We'll let Flint kick the shit out of Matthel, but stop him from killing him outright.
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>>30224393
>stop Donovan
Then restrain Matthel and explain to him just what kind of people the Angels really are.

Both him and his dad need to know about the slavery.
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>>30224393
> some other strategy

Back him up Donovan if he needs it. Otherwise, let him.

But more importantly, we need to stop that ritual.
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>>30224393
>Other
Bind Matthel to prevent him from drawing his sword.
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>>30224490
This. Matthel needs to know he fucked up when picking sides.
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>>30224393
>stop Donovan
..from killing him at least. Remind Donovan that the angels are the ones that did this to him, ultimately. And the source of the curse is down below.
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>>30224393
>stop Donovan
Control Matthel's shadow and stop him from doing anything, saves us mana this way, and it would be good if people didn't know we could do other types of magic, I think.
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>>30224393
>And wasn't I always there for you? Didn't I always stick by you! I took care of you! I made sure you stayed safe!"

Hey, wasn't matthel the one who wasn't even going to tell im about Megan?
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>>30224393
>stop Donovan

We need him alive. He has a great wealth of information. He will face his crimes, but after we wring all we can from him.
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Alright, stopping Donovan.

Seems like people want to bind Matthel, too.

Vote 1:
>10 mana Bind

Vote 2:
>Shadow Control
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>>30224393
Stop Donovan
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561

2

SAVE MANA FOR METATRON FIGHT
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561
1
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224393
>stop Donovan

He'd never forgive himself if he killed his brother.

Also, a speech for later. Probably not appropriate to use right now:

"Lord Arcturis Flint. If you truly believe what you said about the elemental lords, then I believe we have something in common.

Hyperion is just as guilty for the atrocities of the Elementomachy as any of the other lords! Nothing good can come from bringing relics of the past back into this world to let loose age old grudges on a populace who has only just begun to wash away the blood of the past. The world is far better off without gods, and so I beseech you, do not allow Sandalphon to bring this mad scheme to completion."
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561
2
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>>30224561
2
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Ok, roll 1d100
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>>30224618
>"Lord Arcturis Flint. If you truly believe what you said about the elemental lords, then I believe we have something in common.
>Hyperion is just as guilty for the atrocities of the Elementomachy as any of the other lords! Nothing good can come from bringing relics of the past back into this world to let loose age old grudges on a populace who has only just begun to wash away the blood of the past. The world is far better off without gods, and so I beseech you, do not allow Sandalphon to bring this mad scheme to completion."

This, also.

"Someething else Sandalphon said, that I need to correct. He seems to think that the Black lady has been.... handled. She's really on our side, and is waiting for the right moment to put her marker on the board. I am -serious- about this alliance, and I think having her already be here when sandalphon arrives is a wonderful way to cool the angels heels"
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Rolled 81

>>30224663
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Rolled 93

>>30224663
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>>30224618
It's a little preachy, but it could work.

The key is making Arcturis think it was his idea, I believe.
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Rolled 45

>>30224663
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>>30224589
Fight the wave, anon. Fight the wave.
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Rolled 27

>>30224663
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>>30224618
God, I think it's kinda hilarious that WE ARE EREBUS. We bound all these dudes in the first place! Now we're saying "Nah, nah. Don't bring 'em back. That'll just cause more problems!" while at the same time planning to free Geb, Hecate, and (maybe) the water elemental.
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Rolled 20

>>30224663
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Rolled 17

>>30224663
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Rolled 13

>>30224663
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>>30224686
AND DROOOOWN
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>>30224670
>>30224668
Pretty good.
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>>30224668
>>30224670
oh yes~
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Wow. The rolls from after that 93 just keep getting lower...

I'm afraid for our future.
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>>30224668
>>30224670
>>30224682
We got this.
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>>30224689

We need to learn more about the instability in Venia before releasing the Elemental Lords. Erebus was trying to achieve something, but it's not clear what.
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>>30224668
>>30224670
>>30224682

We got this.
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>>30224689
From the sounds of it the Water Elemental was kind of a dick bag.
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>>30224689
We're not Erebus, though. Erebus is dead.

Hecate tried to stop the Elementomachy, and Geb only fought because he was forced to do so by Aeolous.

Dunno about Leviathan. I think that's his name, anyway.
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>>30224725
>>30224735
>Gotthismind
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>>30224736
I still think we can convince Leviathan. Can't be any harder than fixing the -insane- Geb.
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>>30224746
Geb has been driven insane, though.
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>>30224723

Its like a trampoline, and we're on the down curve.....

...lets just hope we bounce back up
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>>30224746
We're physically the same being as Erebus. Same body, probably. Physically look the same. We've just rejected that side of us.

Like how a MtF can be physically male but identify as female. They're still male, we just call them something else.
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>>30224689
That would be more true if we hadn't murdered Eberus by infecting all his shards with chaos.
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I want to combine with the other elementals to become ultimate balance elemental. Or something.
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>>30224746
Hecate would be able to tell us more.
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>>30224768
Maybe we can fix that with dream walking?

Since Geb at least exists on this plane.
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>>30224772
and not, you know, twist our ankle and fall off the trampoline, letting Matthel skewer Donovan
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>>30224794
>dreamers have power in their dreams
>the dreams of an insane earth god
>let's just jump on in

I want what you're drinking because evidently its makes you manly as fuck.
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>>30224818
Aren't we immune to blunt damage?

Or is it the opposite of that.
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>>30224831
Slashing.
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>>30224831
Opposite.
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>>30224831

An elemental lords attacks would probably have latent magical properties. Like ours do.
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>>30224818
> manly as fuck.

Metal as fuck. Metal.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nm7wKc9VB8&t=0m11s

We xavier now
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>>30224818
>>30224868

>>dreamers have power in their dreams
>>the dreams of an insane earth god
>>let's just jump on in

Yeah dude lets just visit the mind of an earth elemental, we can have a party and rock out.
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You rush up to Donovan and grab him from behind. He struggles against you, arms flailing. You hike up to his shoulders and lift him off the ground.

"Let go of me!"

"Calm down! Fighting your brother won't do anything now!"

Matthel is still standing on his toes, hand on his sword hilt. Your shadow snaps across the ground and links to his before he can react. And then he's frozen. His eyes dart about wildly. He moans slightly in an attempt to speak.

Arcturis looks at Matthel, then at you, noting the shadow. "What are you doing?"

"Restraining your sons. Both of them."

"...not a bad idea."

Fang strides across the room with Hemmelus. Adavan follows close behind. Your undead friend isn't his normal self - his fists are clenched, and he's marching with serious purpose. The idea of Hyperion being resummoned probably doesn't appeal to Hecate's general.

Fang stops in front of Arcturis. "Are you insane, Arcturis? Are you out of your mind?!"

"What are you talking about?"

Hemmelus shoulders in front of Fang. "What the Archmage means to say, is that a spell of this nature is highly...irregular. Summon, an elemental lord? The power required would be astronomical. More than any mage could muster."

"And so he's collected it over time."

>con't
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"It's not that simple!" Hemmelus says. "What if something goes wrong? What if the spell doesn't work properly? There's no way to do a dry run of something like this? What if they bore a second hole in the Core of Chaos? The Black Lady and the Most High patched it once, during the Shadow War. I don't want to risk weakening it further! Sandalphon is blinded to the potential consequences of his actions. The Elemental Lords are gone, and trying to change that is not worth the risk involved!"

"Thank you for the clarification, honored sage," Fang says. "Lord Flint. You're going to lead us down to this spell, and I am going to dismantle it."

"Dismantle..." Arcturis shakes his head. "You don't understand. Sandalphon is coming here himself, tomorrow."

"All the more reason to get on top of things, then."

"...I..." Arcturis seems torn.

Matthel strains against your Shadow Control. His aura of Wind churns and chafes against your grip. You can't hold him in place, not entirely. "...fa...ther...can't...let...Fang...the Lord of"

What do you do?

>try to convince Arcturis (write-in)
>some other strategy
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>>30224935
The second that summoning goes off all hell is going to break loose and is probably going to take half your city with it
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>>30224935
>try to convince Arcturis (write-in)
Tell him about what Sandalphon did to the Shadow and Spirit mages. Say that every last citizen of Haven could testify it and Auriel and Ila are currently looking for evidence from Waterford.

Sandalphon has lost his mind.
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>>30224935
Or we could just use the gate I left there.
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>>30224935
>try to convince Arcturis (write-in)
"I've been to the core of the world, and seen the patch. It is a weak, fragile thing. Riddled with holes. Demons spew forth at regular, predictable intervals and flood up from the fingers. A spell such as this, throwing around so much power, would likely break that seal entirely."
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>>30224935
> try to convince Arcturis (write-in)
"If it doesn't work, it could destroy Arland. If it does work, and Hyperion returns, he'll restart the Elementomachy and Arland will be destroyed in the crossfire."
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>>30224935
We've been waiting for a chance to tell him all about the angels and Hyperion.
Now is our chance.

Maybe talk about the world, chaos, order, all that jazz, but we don't want to get too philospohical.
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>>30224935
"Would summoning Demon Lords count as practice for something like this?"
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>>30224935
"Considering Hemmelus's perspective on things, I feel as if he would be uniquely suited towards determining just how best to handle the seal?

I understand you might be at least somewhat hesitant about Fang's involvement, but surely you can trust the judgment of the Four-Element Sage?"
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>>30224935
I met David in the Archonium. He had been driven insane by his experiences in the Nether. How do you know Hyperion hasn't as well?
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>>30224935

"Lord Flint - Sandalphon has lied to you before, and he will lie to you again. Worse, he has convinced your son that the Ring City's needs trump Arland's. You need a position of strength. We can give you one."
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>>30224935
Mention that Sandalphon was going to destroy his entire city when the Shadow mages got out as further proof of his craziness
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>>30224935
Dangerous spell.
Donovan deserves his revenge.
World doesn't need elemental lords. (this particularly agrees with what Arcturis believes)
Matthel is a fool.
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>>30224935
>>try to convince Arcturis (write-in)

>>30224225
>an excuse to cure flint. The entire reason yi fang is here is because he has experience removing the curse-parasites without the death of the host, and we needed a reason for him to be here you would accept."
>"I"m sorry, but sandalphon planned the death of your son from the very beginning""
THIS ONE ^^^^^
>>30224664
>"Someething else Sandalphon said, that I need to correct. He seems to think that the Black lady has been.... handled. She's really on our side, and is waiting for the right moment to put her marker on the board. I am -serious- about this alliance, and I think having her already be here when sandalphon arrives is a wonderful way to cool the angels heels"

additionally "Before you decide, there is something you need to know about the angels. Their society has crumbled into depravity and sickness in the 700 years they have been without leadership, without purpose. THESE are the people you want to trust your future to?"
> Share Slavery Details.
"Hyperion wants the world under his wing, or kneeling at his feet. No matter how useful you are, the angels will never accept you as equals. How can they? Nobody else is chosen by god to always be right."
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>>30224935
"Do you honestly believe that summoning Hyperion from the Chaos Core when a Pentarch is in the process is even a remotely good idea?"
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>>30224935

While we're at it, Intimidate Matthel.

"Be Silent." While giving him the most murderous glare we have.
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>>30224935
"Sandalthong will not honor the promise he made you, Arcturis. He does not want peace or cooperation, and he never has. He wants power. He wants command. Since its founding, the Empire has /enslaved/ mages of Spirit and Shadow. It has ripped from them their very souls and held them captive. I put a stop to that, and I will not see it begin anew."
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>>30225014
This.
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>>30224988
This and also
>>30225007
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>>30225014

>>30224935

Also, fucking -drive home- the point that this shael-kath business KILLS THE HOST especially when they finalize the piece of the element its attached to.
Drive home the point that sandalphon LIED to him to get it done, LIED about the effects and results, LIED that it will -cost his son his life- and nothing matters as long as he gets what he wants.
Drive it home to the hilt, and do it while matthel can't contradict anything because he's paralyzed.
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>>30225014
Mentioning the Black Lady right now is not a good plan at all. Save that bombshell for later.
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>>30224935
>try to convince Arcturis (write-in)
"I know you just want what is best for Arland. Sandalphon does not care for Arland beyond what he can extract from your family for his insane plans.

He is going to be here tomorrow, and he is going to take your home from you. From your family. From your people. You said it yourself, if you allow this to happen then Arland will spend eternity licking the heels of a force of nature that thinks itself your master."
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>>30224935
"I will not have my son bound by this thing any further. Or I'll join in with Archon,

Fucking quote Arcturis on what he said.
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>>30225053
Agreeing with this sans the Black Lady tidbit, break it after.
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>WRITING
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>>30225064
Right. Get the first stuff out of the way, it's more important right now anyways.
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>>30225064
>Mentioning the Black Lady right now is not a good plan at all. Save that bombshell for later.

We ALWAYS wanted to use the black lady to counteract sandalphon.

When is this a more appropriate time?
Regardless, if its not now, its soon.

>>30225080
DO THIS
SO appropriate
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>>30224935

Some point during this conversation, we should let shadow wings grow out of our back.

>IMPLICATIONS
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>>30225096
So you're just gonna grab all the important bits from the shit we've slung and make it coherent?

Please tell me you're doing that.
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If we servanted the Black Lady, would she become more powerful than us?
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>>30225118
No! Bad Anon! That does not help us! Shame on you!
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>>30225118

Thats dumb

>>30225121
>Please tell me you're doing that.
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>>30224935
"Lord Arcturis, think for a moment. Do you really want Hyperion ruling over you? He is just as bad as the other elemental lords, who tore the world apart so long ago over what was little more than a pissing contest!

The relics of the past need to stay in the past. The world has just about washed away the blood of the Elementomachy, and if Hyperion returns, all his grudges return with him.

I've been to Xile. I've seen the Elementomachy firsthand. Arland would be ground zero - It would not survive.
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Do we really want Fang, a really good summoner himself, near something like this?
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>>30225121
When have our write-ins ever been coherent?
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>>30225004
Actually, this is a pretty good point.

Hecate is sealed in a vault. Geb is driven insane and wandering a desert. Leviathan is stuck in a gemstone (Maybe).

Hyperion was actually *banished*. He's spent 700 years in the nether. God only knows what has happened to his already paranoid mental state.
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Rolled 94

>>30225226
Yes. Because he knows his shit.
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>>30225226
It serves to imagine that a master summoner would know how to properly dismantle the circle without accidentaly, say, discharging 500+ years of collected energy.

Besides, why would he want to summon Hyperion?
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>>30225226
>>30225251

The implication here being that Fang could somehow use the stored up power and go CUHRAZY with it.

On the contrary, I think the summoning spell is highly specialized - it would be like using an ICBM to make toast.
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>>30225287
> it would be like using an ICBM to make toast.
Damn. Now I want some toast.
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>>30225287
I've used an ICBM to make toast before. Y'never heard of atomic toasters? Also, thanks for making me hungry.
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>>30225287
I would totally go to watch a nuclear bomb test and hold up a little piece of bread on a metal rod to toast it.
Any day/every day.
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>>30225287
He gave control to abby, she loves us, he cares about her. I mean. Come on. I think it's fairly certain he's on our side.
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>>30225287
You have obviously never made toast the right way before anon.
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>>30225226
>Fang summons Hyperion
>"Didn't you know? I was an angel all along."

FAAAAAAAAAAAANG
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>>30225313
>>30225331
>>30225338
>>30225347

Wow. Apparently I don't know shit about toast.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skLjnVQ677Y

"Lord Flint," you say, "may I speak frankly?"

"...there's no time like the present," he mutters.

"I'm sorry," you say, "but Sandalphon has planned your son's death from the beginning. The shel'kath kills its host, in the end."

"I've seen it before," Fang says. "You might not trust my word, but I know where he got his spirit mage."

"...liars..." Matthel's Wind burns brighter. "...Highest...would...never...not..."

"You have no idea what they're capable of," you say to Matthel. Your expression silences his struggle. You turn back to Arcturis. "This process will cost your son his life. On top of that, as the sage said - a Demonic Pentaverate is in the making in Kan-Abar, and Sandalphon wants to summon Hyperion from the Nether? This may be the greatest moment of instability for the core in recent history, and he wants to disrupt it further If something goes wrong with the spell, Dobshire itself may be forfeit. We could be risking not only Donovan's life, and your country, but the destruction of Venia as a whole.

"The Most High has lied to you once, and he will lie to you again. He has even convinced your son," you say, throwing a glance at Matthel, "that the Empire's needs trump Arlands - and those of his own family."

"...put words...my...mouth...bastard...!"

"Shut up," you tell Matthel. "Lord Flint. You worry because Sandalphon comes from a position of strength - we are your new strength. Join our alliance. Join us." You lean back and fold your arms. "Unless when you said that you'd throw in with with Archon if he did not spare your son, you were only bluffing."

Arcturis stares past you, at the far wall of the cathedral. Everyone is watching him.

His eyes harden.

Roll 1d100
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Rolled 98

>>30225403
Oh dear.
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>>30225354
He doesn't age, and still has his skin - something which no other lich has managed to do. The whole 'preservation spell' thing is awfully convenient, isn't it?

Hmm

Please note that I do not actually think Fang is an angel. That would be dumb.
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Rolled 82

>>30225403

BY THE POWER OF JUSTICE!
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Rolled 41

>>30225403
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>>30225417
>>30225433
HALLELUJAH! STOP EVERYTHING!
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>>30225417
>>30225433
...Do we have to roll ten times?
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Rolled 27

>>30225403
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Rolled 43

>>30225403
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Rolled 25

>>30225403
Oh god oh god oh god
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>>30225456
NO
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And here comes the 1 of Domiclease.
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STOP ROLLING
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>>30225417
>>30225433
>>30225449
This seems good unless SM is using that fail now.
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Rolled 46

>>30225480
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Rolled 67

So when is SM using the nat 1?its at the black ladies reveal isn't
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>>30225466
CAN IT. NOT A WORD FROM YOU UNTIL THIS SCENE IS OVER.
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>>30225466
I think that 1 is reserved for when we do something really stupid that deserves to fail, but wouldn't have because dice.
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>>30225433
>>30225449
Justice cannot be stopped!

>CAPTCHA gospel niseden
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>>30225466
Damocles, anon.
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>>30225417

HAHAHA
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Rolled 77

>>30225403
GIMME THAT 1 FOR SWEET ACCIDENTAL CONSUMING OF MATT
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>>30225466
>>30225501

You guys aren't thinking big enough.

Its gonna hit at another 'we need to roll to not breach the core' moment, or at the final climax of the demon lord fight when ALL our friends are

SM said, and i quote, he's going to 'rake us over the coals with it'.
These are not the words of someone who is going to topple our petty victories with Doomocles.

Ask yourself this: Would a 1 here wreck everything, or would it wreck EVERYTHING?
Unless its the latter, and there's a few exclamation points, stop worrying about it and learn to sleep with the sword hanging over your throat.
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"...alright," Arcturis says. "I'll give your niece her chance." He looks at Fang. "Archmage."

"Yes?"

"If you betray us...there will be a reckoning paid in blood."

"I'll have to make sure you don't find out about it, then," Fang says. "Let's get moving."

Wind flares from Matthel, wrapping his body. You stagger, suddenly straining with everything you have to hold him. Everyone looks at him.

The wind is spinning around him. No...spinning two ways? Dragging against itself. What is he -

"Matthel, NO!" Arcturis shouts.

What do you do?

>shield your allies
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic
>Nightblaze
>protect Donovan
>some other strategy
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>>30225601
I don't think that SM wants us to fail necessarily. I think that he's waiting for a moment when a crit fail is appropriate or furthers the way he wants the story to go. I remember he said that this quest has never been DM vs PC, so we shouldn't worry about anything absolutely horrible happening.
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>>30225678
Pocket
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>>30225678
>>Nightblaze
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>>30225678
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic
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>>30225678
Is he trying a windburn?
>Nightblaze
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>>30225678
> 420 blaze it
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>>30225678
Matthel, you indoctrinated pillock!
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>>30225678
420 MAXIMUM POWER TARGETED NIGHTBLAZE IT!

Teach this bitch a lesson!
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>>30225678
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic
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>>30225601
>>30225685

The 1 will be used to further the narrative in a...particular direction.

I'm not going to waste it now, certainly.
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>>30225678
420 NIGHTBLAZE
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>>30225678
>Nightblaze
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic
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>>30225678
Das blud majk thar.

Envelop, pocket.
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>>30225678
Keep calm and NIGHTBLAZE
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>>30225678
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic
>>30225705
Offensive pocket has to overcome magical resistance.
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>>30225678
>Nightblaze
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>>30225705
Supporting this. It takes him out of the picture, and gives him nowhere to aim his Windburn.
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>>30225678
>Nightblaze
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>>30225678
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic
And Nightblaze, of course. I just want us to be containing the blast zone if the spell goes wrong.
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>>30225678
>420 blaze it
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>>30225678
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic

This is going to have lasting consequences isn't it?
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>>30225678
Pocket him!
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>>30225678
>Nightblaze
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Rolled 91

>>30225678
>>Nightblaze
Can we look for a mana pool after this real quick since i know now the angel might know.
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>>30225678
So, this is the Windburn.

A brief reminder:

>You briefly speak with Flint on the Windburn.

>He tells you that the Windburn is a magical technique mastered by Sebastian Flint, Donovan's great grandfather and founder of Arland and leader of the revolution. Essentially, Flint's family is capable of taking temporary control of the Skysever itself. The friction generated in the air by turning the Wind against itself is powerful enough to ignite explosive force, though it can be sustained longer without going that far.

>It is extremely draining, and demands several days of bed-ridden recovery after just a minute of actively using the spell. However, it can alternately devastate an enemy army or empower the user beyond human limits for a short time, potentially making the risk worth it. Flint's grandfather died during the Shadow War because of abuse of the Windburn. Having pushed the spell too far, his soul as vaporized by and added to the Skysever's blood magic.

>The Windburn isn't quite blood magic itself, but it's in a hazy grey area.

Nightblaze isn't going to work quite as well as we'd hope, I think, since the Windburn is literally just co-opting the Skysever.
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>>30225678
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic
>Nightblaze
Both.
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>>30225742
He's using the Windburn.
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>>30225794
Everyone stop voting and read this.
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>>30225678
>Nightblaze
>>some other strategy

Blink to him, knock the wind out of him while he tries to break free/gather his energy.

Then: Terror, to make him back down without starting a fight OR Nightblaze if the gutshot isn't enough
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>>30225794
So.. pocket?
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>>30225804
The Windburn is blood magic, anon.
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>>30225767
This. Don't put all our eggs in one basket. lolwut also has a good point about being able to cancel it.
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>>30225794
>Nightblaze isn't going to work quite as well as we'd hope

Yeaaah.

We need to remove him from the skysever.

So....
1) Blink Over
2) Envelop
3) Pocket or restrain
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>>30225678
>>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic
>>Nightblaze
Both.
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>>30225812
This! Use Terror.
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>>30225794
So, should we pocket him or pocket our friends?
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>>30225821
I think it's grey area,somewhere in-between normal and blood magic, and that it uses life energy from the caster
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>>30225678
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic
Nightblaze him while we do it.
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Pocket him then? I mean, theres no skysever in our pocket right? Right???
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>>30225678
420Blazeit followed by a Decay please
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Rolled 32

>>30225678
>attempt to envelope Matthel and contain his magic

If Metatron doesn't know about what is going on here upstairs, Matthel turning himself into a bomb is sure to get his attention. If it does, say hello to a mirror message to our resident Douchebag aggressor angel who just told Arcturis that any interference with the spell would be considered an act of war and several airships warping over Dobshire. Tomorrow Sandalphon was going to show up anyways, and chances are it was going to involve a show of force of some sort, even if he was trying to remain diplomatic. It would make sense that much of that is already prepared the night before. It is worth it to throw off our human disguise in this situation if it means saving everyone and not informing Metatron.

tldr; Don't let Metatron find out about us and save our friends. It's important.
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>>30225838

Attempting both at the same time will raise DCs but make a success more effective.
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>Decay - Reduce the target's magical attack power for 3-5 turns. (5, 11, or 22 mana. Higher tiers increased effectiveness)
So, how much mana we want to burn?
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>>30225837
This
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>>30225838
>>30225837
>>30225796
>>30225784
>>30225775
>>30225767
>>30225752
>>30225741
>>30225737

>>30225794
>Everyone stop voting and read this.
Everyone yammering about nightblaze - i know its our Go-To-magic - remember if we can't dispel the skysever, we can't dispel the windburn.

>>30225868
>If Metatron doesn't know about what is going on here upstairs, Matthel turning himself into a bomb is sure to get his attention. If it does, say hello to a mirror message to our resident Douchebag aggressor angel who just told Arcturis that any interference with the spell would be considered an act of war and several airships warping over Dobshire
>tldr; Don't let Metatron find out about us and save our friends. It's important.

We need to contain this before it blows up in our faces
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Would it be better to possibly try to talk Matthel down? Since he's really just fighting against our restraint, at the moment.
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>>30225873
...Wouldn't we effectively be casting Decay on the Skysever itself?

But if it'd work, I'd say 22 would be worth it.
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>>30225873
SM would this possibly work?
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>>30225872

voting to just envelop, then.

I trust that the other people in the room will be smart enough to fucking run away.
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>>30225878
So Pocket, then.
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>>30225821
It's wind magic, but makes use of the skysever, which is blood magic.

>>30225678
Earthforge?
Is there time to imprison him in stone?
Would that have any reliable chance of stopping it?
Otherwise, envelop.
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>>30225906
Blast Mathel with Terror and then envelop him.
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>>30225872
I'd say go for envoloping and Pocket him.
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>>30225678
I like the idea of Pocketing Matthel, since it means he's completely separated from the operating mechanism behind the Windburn.
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I don't know where the Windburn attacks from - the caster, or the sky.

I think, then, the safest thing to do is protect our allies with our body. The Skysever is SLASHING. Hydra has helped us against it before, on Xile, iirc.

Envelop our friends.
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I'm afraid I can't answer that, Dave.
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What if we enveloped him and adamantized?
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>>30225923
I'd say blink behind him and pocket him so we're not at the brunt of the force if we fail to pocket him.
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>>30225852
>pocket our friends

That's right, we can pocket people who are willing without a dice roll. But the king might not be so willing and we don't have time to convince him.
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>>30225872
Envelope and Pocket.
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>>30225923
>I like the idea of Pocketing Matthel, since it means he's completely separated from the operating mechanism behind the Windburn.

SO MUCH THIS

also its a pity we spent our XP on things other than Decimate. Seriously it looks amazing.
Its nightblaze on steroids
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What is with you people and the pocket? Stop trying to use it offensively when we have DOZENS of far better options to choose from.

For fucks sake, we have sleeping gas we can use against him! Look at the skills list people.
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>>30225947
It doesn't work on high powered targets you dingus.
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>>30225947
Sleep Gas will just be blown away by the Windburn.
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>>30225947
>Sleep Gas - Release a sleep-inducing gas to knock out your foes. The gas is potent, but isn't very useful in battle, or against powerful enemies.

I like the idea as an addition to whatever we do, just so he calms down a bit.
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>>30225925
Windburn is fire damage.
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>>30225925
I don't think Hydra is enough to stop something that can fuck with entire armies
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>>30225947
Envelop + Sleep Gas
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>>30225975

>lolwut

The Flints are all Wind-powered except for Donovan.
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>>30225925
Windburn is an explosion.
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>>30225982
Envelop + Terror.
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>>30225962
Sleep Gas is a bad idea, but pocket doesn't work on high powered targets either.
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>>30225962
>>30225964
All I'm saying is remember our options. /tg/ tends to get tunnel vision when it comes to using abilities.
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>>30225975
I want to insult you, but I'm too busy laughing.
Bless you, anon. Made my night.
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>>30225947
>For fucks sake, we have sleeping gas we can use against him! Look at the skills list people.

.... wait, really?

HAHAH YES

Blink+envelop+sleeping gas
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Can Terror even be used on single targets? I thought it was a radial clusterfuck power that could cripple our allies and half the city?
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>>30225985
>>30226001
That's how the windburn works. He uses the skysever to make the air so hot that it explodes.
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>>30226015
oh you anon
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>>30226015
Then use Fear. Fear to unbalance him, Sleep Gas to further disorient, then a knockout blow.
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>>30225992
>pocket doesn't work on high powered targets either.

What makes you so sure of that you keep souting it off every chance your minute to post comes up?

It needs a magic resist check
we have MP5
same as every other spell.

You're wrong that its bad against high powered targets
What you really need to realize is that, instead, its JUST AS effective as literally all our other spell options
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>>30226015
>Spend 4 to 14 mana. Unleash the true horror of darkness unknowable. Stun or disrupt target enemy, and other enemies around you in a large radius. Weaker enemies may flee.
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>>30226021
Oh my god you're killing me anon, stop!
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>>30226046
>Stun or disrupt target enemy, and other enemies around you in a large radius.

AND.

Yes, we need a single target ability.
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>>30226061
Fear or Mind Crush.
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>>30226038
Magic Power only effects our max mana and makes specific changes to spells that note the changes.

MP does not change how effective pocket is. It does not change how effective any of our spells are.

All the spells have power ratings. It is not based on levels in MP.
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>>30226088
but it is you dumb shit
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>>30226087
I'll second Mind Crush, it's the only thing that will hit hard enough to buy our allies time to restrain him. Well...wait.

What about Spirit Siphon? We could just drain all his Mana
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>>30226087
I'll second mind crush. I hope it doesn't give him PTSD.
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>>30226038
That's not how MP works, anon.
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>>30226088
>All the spells have power ratings. It is not based on levels in MP.

Yeah that's false.
Sm's stated that every level of MP increases general spell effectiveness, as well as individual mastery within the spells also increases it a little bit.
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Should I call a vote, or do anons want to debate further?
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>>30225947
Trying to use sleep gas against a single, powerful enemy, let alone one churning up high-powered winds, is pretty explicitly not a good plan.

Similarly, I don't know how well Terror is going to work if this whole thing started because he was strong-willed enough to break free of our Shadow Domination in order to initiate the Windburn.

>>30225935
Getting behind him helps us, but I'd rather we be between it and our allies if the thing actually does go off.

We're far more resistant to explosive force than the overwhelming majority of our friends.

>>30226038
To be fair, I can't imagine Pocket on an unwilling target is ACTUALLY the same magic resist check as any other spell, or else it would just be an immediate 1-mana Win Target Fight for as long as we didn't have a full cube of pissed off enemies from previous uses.
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>>30226118
Call a vote
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>>30226109
OKAY

FINE

SPIRIT SIPHON

TOO MANY FUCKING ACTIVE USE ABILITIES
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>>30226118
vote
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>>30226088
Oh god, why is that idea still kicking around when SM specifically said otherwise on multiple occasions. Magic Power effects not only magic point pool size, and mana regen, but also the effectiveness of every single one of our spells
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>>30226118

I don't think so. Debate a bit.

Can you clarify some of the rules questions and misunderstandings behind the debate, though?
Specifically, how MP works, and how the offensive pocket-check actually works
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Rolled 73

>>30226118
I'm for pocket+nightblaze.
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>>30226118
Call a vote.
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>>30226118
debate until 11.

We just have too many options.
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>>30226118

call vote
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>>30226118
I think at this point anons are just debating for the fuck of it.
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>>30226138
We need basic outline of what our abilities are.
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>>30226115
MP does not make all spells equally viable. That is complete horseshit.
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>>30226159

I disagree. But I don't think it is going to go anywhere, we need the vote.
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Let's lay out our options.

1. Pocket.
2. Envelop.
3. Nightblaze.
4. Nightblaze + Envelop.
5. Fear/Terror + Envelop.
6. Sleep Gas + Envelop.
7. Mind Crush.
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>>30226144
This, pls this.

Also we could Decay + Nightblaze or Decay + Pocket, or even Decay + Confuse.
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>>30226142
>but also the effectiveness of every single one of our spells

FUCKING THIS

Literally every MP makes all our spells better
offensive pocket is an offensive spell

herpaderp lets remove the problem from the source of his power, let him chill in void jail to cool his heels, and we don't use it because people are under the illusion it wont work?

When really it works just as hard as every other offensive option we're considering?

>>30226169
Yeah, but it makes it MORE viable, and i'm fairly sure that a regular human who's just starting to up his protections isn't gonna have a lot of Earth Resistance - which is also a factor.
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>>30226142
Magic Power does not make every one of our spells have the same DC like the anon I was replying to was saying.
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>>30226118
vote
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>>30226181
Forgot

8. Decay
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>>30226184
>Also we could Decay + Nightblaze or Decay + Pocket, or even Decay + Confuse.

I don't think any of these are good options. We need to conserve mana for the angel.

Also, if decay and nightblaze won't shutdown the sky sever, they wont shut down the windburn. We covered this already.

>>30226201
You don't know that, stop assuming it.

Pocket's a rank 3 shadow/earth technique, its at least as strong a DC as other tier-3 spells in general
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>>30226209
And Spirit Siphon.
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>>30226167
Which we have at the beginning of the thread.
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>>30226201
>Magic Power does not make every one of our spells have the same DC like the anon I was replying to was saying.
No, but it does make every single one of our spells more effective. It probably gives them all the same level of boost, and other factors make us better at certain types of magic.
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Magical Power effects your total available Mana, your ability to passively regenerate mana. Higher levels of Magic Power also increases the base power of your spells by a hidden multiplier.

That being said, Pocket does not have a stated base power because I didn't think about it as an offensive ability, and it really isn't meant to be used that way. So, it will not receive the beneficial multiplier of increased Magic Power levels, because it already gets a bonus from that in the form of increased pocket space.

And let's hang back on the "I told you so's". Everyone should be patient with newer players who may have glossed over the more obscure information while reading through the archives. Don't confront, inform. This is not the quest thread general.
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>>30226231

I like Nightblaze+Spirit Siphon
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>>30226248
So earth magic would be best here. So Decay, or Earthforge would be elemental appropriate
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>>30226259
Nightblaze+Spirit Siphon then
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>>30226259
Good. Call a vote then.
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>>30226259
lets do a 22 mana decay, if we need to recharge our mana we can go to a nearby mana pool for a free recharge
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Rolled 63

>>30226259
nightblaze+spirit syphon.
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>>30226231

Hm. I think spirit siphon is the most appropriate.

He's trying to muster up the energy to Windburn, so we take that energy away.

Blink+envelop, Siphon.

Nightblaze second, interrupt windburn first by cutting the power off from the engine.
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>>30226190
>>30226226
Pretty much these. People're just going 'uhrr, Pocket is DUMB' because they're pretty much dependant on anti-magicking everything at this point rather than attempting new strategies.

Pocket is THE optimum solution; It takes Matthel out of the equation so he can't continuously try to fuck us over, it gives his Windburn nowhere to go so he has zero option other than to just wait shit out in the Void, it's QUIET and doesn't attract any attention, unlike slinging fucking magic around. The only argument against it is "but it could be resisted!" Well so can Nightblaze, dipshits.
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>>30226259
I say Envelope the guy to contain the blast and use Decay to weaken it.
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>>30226248
And all spells have a base power, which this same multiplier is added to.

A combat spell is going to have a higher power than a utility spell.
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>>30226262
Seconding.
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>>30226291
>>30226306
Decay+spirit syphon
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>>30226262
>>30226291
>>30226306
Decay is a much better spell than Spirit Siphon since it's Earth and strong against Wind.
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>>30226291
>>30226336
I'm torn between these two.
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>>30226259
also people seem to only be sugesting our most basic spells, rather than our stronger ones that are made to stop stronger people
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>>30226259
What if we combine enveloping with Pocket? I mean, can we place a stretched out Pocket on our own body, and then pretty much wrap ourselves around Matthel and not!consume him?
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Spirit syphon + Earthforge.

Trap his winds in rock.
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>>30226317

Attempting to pocket a Flint using the Windburn will not be successful. It's not an offensive move and Matthel is using the most powerful ability he has access to, and he's one of the strongest Wind mages in the whole realm.

Pocket is not the optimal solution. Pocket is for carrying treasure.
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>>30226317
>The only argument against it is "but it could be resisted!" Well so can Nightblaze, dipshits.

I think we'd get a situational bonus to drag him in if we're all up in his junk line a shadow blanket, too.


Decay is shit, guys, why is everyone jumping on the bandwagon?
We can't decay the skysever.

Do something besides reaching for nightblaze first thing for fucks sake.

>>30226344
False. The skysever halves the effectiveness of all earth spells, remember our time on xile?
It gives no shits about things that aren't in the air.
AND
Siphon takes away the mana he's using to channel the windburn
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>>30226318

Decay does not block magic attacks, it simply weakens a persons magical capabilities, the WindBurn would probably still hurt like a bitch even after a decay.

that's why i'm going Nightblaze and Spirit Siphon
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>>30226344
this annon gets it!!!
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>open portal
>toss Matthel in and let him blow up the Hyperion spell himself.
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>>30226352
>>30226374

Yo, I'm jumping on your train, man.

Max power Decay and then Envelop.

Windburn will be weakened significantly, and we can physically block the rest until Matthel burns himself out.
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>>30226375
For the love of god this! Or something else that we haven't thought about yet. Like blinking to him and punching him so hard he's knocked unconscious.
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>>30226367
>Pocket is for carrying treasure.

So far we've used to to carry PEOPLE more often than we've used it to carry treasure.

Also, the fact that Matthel is trying to invoke the Windburn means that he likely wouldn't be able to evade the Pocket if we dumped his ass in it. He'd be too busy trying to start up his spell.
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>>30226344
>Decay is a much better spell than Spirit Siphon since it's Earth and strong against Wind.
>>30226374

>>30226369
>False. The skysever halves the effectiveness of all earth spells, remember our time on xile?

No, they don't.
This is the MOTHERFUCKING SKYSEVER.
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>>30226358
He's making a fucking explosion. Earthforge isn't going to do shit.

>>30226369
That was because of Xile housing the core of it. That doesn't apply to this spell
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>>30226388
The point is we don't want Matthel to burn himself out, that's what depleting his mana first is for, so he has no means to trigger the windburn.
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>>30226375

>igniting the 300 kiloton magi-nuke in the basement

Let's fucking not do that, bro.
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>>30226371
But that won't stop it.
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>>30226353
>an we place a stretched out Pocket on our own body,

Your pocket is one thing, located in an extra-dimensional space. It doesn't move, it can't be stretched. You can teleport items in and out of it at will, but that's all.

--------
>I realize these choices are not perfect, but we've spent enough time here.
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Vote 1:
>envelope Matthel, attempt offensive pocket

Vote 2:
>Nightblaze followed by Spirit Siphon

Vote 3:
>Decay

Vote 4:
>try to talk Matthel down
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421
3
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>>30226421
1
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>>30226421
3
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226259
>That being said, Pocket does not have a stated base power because I didn't think about it as an offensive ability, and it really isn't meant to be used that way.
Might just have been better off having it only usable on consenting or incapacitated targets, then, like one would a coup de grace.


>>30226375
While this would be extraordinarily funny, the portals are extremely unstable, and he'd just be able to, y'know, stop doing it. From what we know, it's still a spell, not an unstoppable chain reaction.

And then he'd go tell Metatron what's happening.

Spirit Siphon is actually a pretty interesting plan, but it's still a bit worrisome since it ranges from draining 1 mana to draining it all. Kind of hit-or-miss.
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226397

I suggested this already!

>>30226404
>That was because of Xile housing the core of it. That doesn't apply to this spell

Where the hell do you think the power for this spell is coming from, you dumb bloke! Its coming from the skysever itself! in the heart of xile!

In any case, treat the Disease, not the Symptoms

>>30226421
Option 5: Envelop no matter other options.
THEN pocket, then siphon if it doesn't work.
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>>30226421
3
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421
3
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421
1
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>>30226446
>>30226421

5

Best plan of both worlds
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>>30226442
>Might just have been better off having it only usable on consenting or incapacitated targets, then, like one would a coup de grace.

Maybe, but I try to place as few limits on player action as possible.
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>>30226421
3
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421
1
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226446
The spell using the Sky Sever doesn't mean it's going to channel the dampening effects of a place thousands of miles away.
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>>30226421
5
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>>30226490
>>30226473
>>30226446

I understand the intention to use yourself as a physical shield if all else fails.
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421
1
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>>30226421
1
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>>30226421
3
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>>30226446
>Envelop no matter other options.
This.
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>>30226504

What about the different order of operations presented therein?
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>>30226421
1
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421

cutting off votes
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>>30226504

Also, don't forget blink to get over there FAST
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226421
2
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>>30226539
I counted..

Vote 1: 6
Vote 2: 9
Vote 3: 4 or 5
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I can't wait for butthurt once people realize this spell doesn't actually use mana
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Pocket: 6

Nightblaze -> SS: 12

Decay: 6

Alright.

Roll 1d100
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Rolled 17

>>30226588
HERE WE GO AGAIN
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Rolled 84

>>30226588
I have a bad feeling about this!
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Rolled 42

>>30226588
Here we go...
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Rolled 55

>>30226588
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>>30226582
I'm just gonna snicker when it turns out that Pocket really was the best option.
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Rolled 2

>>30226588
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>>30226421
2
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Rolled 40

>>30226588
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Rolled 3

>>30226588
>Nightblaze -> SS: 12
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Rolled 91

>>30226588
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Rolled 56

>>30226588
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Rolled 32

>>30226588
SATAN GUIDE MY DICE
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Rolled 54

>>30226598
ATHEISM SAVES THE DAY
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Rolled 14

>>30226588
I swear to god
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Rolled 86

>>30226588
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Rolled 24

>>30226588
rollan'
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>>30226617
!
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>>30226605
why
>>30226615
WHY
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>>30226598
>>30226601

>>30226602
>>30226614

Can we use Maker to boost SS?
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Well. Roll for save?
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Rolled 17

>>30226588
Use a shard?
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Rolled 82

>>30226588
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Rolled 42

>>30226588
well it sucks that this thread didn't update for me.
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No cries and possibly not good enough.
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Rolled 37

>>30226588

I hope the other guys around us are also going to try and dampen his magic. He's going to have 3-4 different colors of magic disruption spells fired at his ass.
>>
>Roll d20 for Fang's spirit barrier
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>>30226597
>>30226598
>>30226601

Do you use Resolve to boost your Nighblaze?

Vote 1:
>yes

Vote 2:
>no
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Rolled 1

>>30226663
1
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>>30226663
1
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>>30226663
1
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>>30226663
1
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>>30226646
I don't believe anyone at all suggested a combined attack, anon. Or even a coordinated effort with all our POWERFUL MAGE ALLIES RIGHT NEXT TO US.

That was probably the better choice all along.
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Rolled 60

>>30226663
1
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>>30226663
2
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Rolled 64

>>30226663

{Resolve} - Empowered
Yeeaah
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>>30226663
2
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>>30226663
1
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>>30226663
2
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>>30226663
1
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>>30226667
Thank fuck that we weren't rolling for anything.
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>>30226663
1

And I hate you people for using a blatantly non-mortal ability here.
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>>30226663
1
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>>30226667
oh fuck i'll stop now
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>>30226663
1
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>>30226663
1
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>>30226639
I'll second this motion.
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>>30226646
>I hope the other guys around us are also going to try and dampen his magic.
Color me interested in finding out what would happen if two Flints both attempted to oppose each others' Windburn.

Would it just be double the friction-wind and thus twice as destructive? Or is the technique more finesse-based than that, and it would actually turn into a battle of wills over who could command the Skysever to listen to them more?
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>>30226663
There really shouldn't be a need. Even if this action doesn't fully work, we have *extremely* capable allies right behind us.
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>>30226692
Shadow mages are known to use anti-magic
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>>30226663
1
>>
Ok,

Roll 1d20
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Rolled 14

>>30226734
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Rolled 7

>>30226734
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>>30226692
all we have to say is "shadow magic" wile waving our hand
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Rolled 9

>>30226734
AHHHHHHH
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Rolled 17

>>30226734
Uh oh.
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Rolled 13

>>30226734
FAILURE INCOMING
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Rolled 7

>>30226734
>>
Rolled 1

>>30226734
pls
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Rolled 12

>>30226734
>>
Rolled 8

>>30226734
>>
Rolled 3

>>30226734
>>
Rolled 5

>>30226734
>>
>>30226692

Shadow mages do have weaker variants of anti-magic spells.
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Rolled 12

>>30226734
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>>30226755
FUUUUUUUUUUU......
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>>30226750
>>30226755
Thank FUCK.
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>>30226755
Hah! It's after the fifth roll, suck it!
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>>30226740
>>30226743
>>30226748
Well, that's not terrible at least.
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Rolled 7

>>30226755
Oh thank god I'm too slow for the first five.
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>>30226755
THANK GOD that was beyond the 5 roll limit for saves.
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>>30226755
>7th roll
Ha! not today!
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>>30226740
>>30226743
>>30226748

Ok,

Roll 1d20 again
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>>30226755
AHAHAHA FUCK YOU
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>>30226781
Please tell me the d20 rolls are best of three.
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Rolled 8

>>30226799
What is happening
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Rolled 11

>>30226734
>>
Rolled 49

>>30226799
>>
Rolled 1

>>30226799
LET'S GOOO
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Rolled 16

>>30226799
>>
Rolled 12

>>30226799
You asshole
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Rolled 3

>>30226799
>>
Rolled 1

>>30226799
Welp.
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Rolled 17

>>30226799
Double uh oh!
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Rolled 9

>>30226799
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Rolled 19

>>30226799
>>
Rolled 14

>>30226799
come on
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Rolled 18

>>30226799
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Rolled 20

>>30226799
Fingers crossed!
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Rolled 6

>>30226799
AHHHHH
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>>30226799
>>
Rolled 8

>>30226799
>>
Rolled 18

>>30226799
I don't get it
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>>30226815
>>30226820
FUCK.
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>>30226799
We suck.
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Rolled 9

>>30226815
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>30226815
There we go.
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Rolled 20

>>30226815
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>30226815

seriously, anon?
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>>30226815
Superfail is a go
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Rolled 20

>>30226815

Son of a bitch. Someone just fizzled their spell.
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>>30226815
NNNUUUUUUuuuuuuu.....
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>>30226815
Lovely.
>>
Tumbling tumbling tumbling down.
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>>30226815
YOU
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>>30226815
YOU FOOL! You've doomed us all!

>>30226833
FUCK! I rolled a 20 NOW?!
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>>30226815

...
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>>30226815
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>>30226820
Never roll again
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>>30226861
>>30226855
And where the fuck were these?
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Rolled 20

>>30226815
>>30226820
I guess this means we're right fucked then?
>>
Rolled 10

>>30226855
UH UH UHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHU>>30226833
>>30226861
HUMANA HUMANA HUAMNAUHMAN
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>>30226815
Well.

On the up-side, at least >>30226820 was the SIXTH roll, and we aren't ultra-dead.

>>30226871
Just mostly dead.
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>>30226855
>>30226861
Why?
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>>30226855
>>30226861
>>30226833
Where the fuck did all of these come from?
>>
>multiple 20s after they no longer matter

Fuck you /tg/ dice, fuck you.
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>>30226871
I don't understand

The chances of rolling a 1 in 10d20 is pretty high. This shouldn't really surprise anybody.
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>>30226871
Oh for fucks sake, just kill Flint and successfully summon Hyperion already!
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>>30226875
I'm sorry anon. I'll stop for tonight.
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>>30226855
>>30226861
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
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>>30226880
ANOTHER 20?! Stop rolling, guys, fucking christ!!
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Rolled 12

>>30226897
This is why.
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>>30226871
Not sure I understand what's happening here

Are you just asking us to roll d20s until we critfail?
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>>30226861
>>30226855
>>30226833
>>30226820
>>30226815
Now is truly the end of days
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>>30226880
I am raging like a fucking cunt right now.
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>>30226855
>>30226861
>>30226880

>3 20s in a row

WHAT THE FUCK!
>>
Rolled 14

>>30226897
>10d20
You mean 5d20
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>>30226917
The first was for the Resolve shard, the second was for an allys help.

Who will probably die to the windburn now.
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>>30226871
Are you actually surprised?
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>>30226946
>Who will probably die to the windburn now.
>The skysever fucks Adavan up. Again.
>>
Actually, this might be way more interesting that we thought it would be.

>However, it can alternately devastate an enemy army or empower the user beyond human limits for a short time, potentially making the risk worth it.

The Windburn isn't just usable as an offensive spell; it's a self-buff spell as well.

This might not be him firing off an anti-army weapon... maybe he's just making himself into an anti-army weapon instead.
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>>30226941
We rolled 2 1d20 checks, he meant 10d20.
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>>30226946
Please don't be Donovan. Or Adavan. Or Hemmelus. Or Arcturis.

But Fang's okay.
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>>30226962
Probably Ila or Flint.
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>>30226946
Adavan, go! Do your best! You know what this is like already!
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>>30226897
Crits only count for d20 in the first 5 and only the first 3 are supercrits.
>>
>inb4 that saved up 1 is activated here
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>>30226995
Oh, so it's only a minor critfail.

Whatever then. People are getting too bent out of shape about it.
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>>30227019
>implying SM even needs it here
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>>30227019
> thinking it needs to be fired here
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>>30227032
It's a super critfail anon, look again.
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>>30227032
It's the 3rd roll. The roll before it was a d100
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>>30227032
Except it actually was in the first three. Some chucklefuck rolled a d100.
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>>30227032
It's in the 1st three
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It's only been ten minutes since SM's last post, but it already feels like a century.
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>>30227049
>>30227053
>>30227057
>>30227076
Eh.

Our rolls weren't terrible enough to warrant an all-or-nothing saving throw.
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>>30227145
You either underestimate the windburn, or Matthel.
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>>30227145
It's the fucking SKYSEVER.
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>>30227145
Our actions we insufficient to save our allies from danger. That saving throw wasn't to help us, it was to keep someone else from getting hurt.
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>>30227145
But the way the dice played out we tried to do something, failed, then tried to save the situation and MADE IT WORSE. That's what the dice are saying.
>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISEOyKGGmOU

You pour power into a Nighblaze! A spinning orb of anti-magic forms before you.

>mana: 32/58

For an instant, the world turns into a negative of itself. Shadows are blinding lights, and the flickering candles are wreathed in darkness. And then your spell fires!

The orb careens toward Matthel. Your allies raise their magical defenses. You sprint forward, intending to close the distance.

The Nightblaze strikes Matthel. And then it stops. The Wind churns. A storm of green wind like a cluster of daggers strikes at your sphere from all sides, eating it away in moments.

You blink the distance to Matthel, and your Spirit Siphon is at your fingertips. He looks up at you. Wind burns in his eyes.

fuuuuuuooooooSSSSHHH
BOOM

You're flying. And then there's darkness.

>you've taken 25 damage
>you've regenerated 4 HP (60/81)

It hurts.

You try to shift. You're pinned under something. You push at it. It doesn't budge. You shake off the pain, then push harder. A heavy chunk of stone rolls off you, and you get to your feet.

You're standing in nave, in a pile of rubble. You don't remember what just happened, but the entire wall of the cathedral behind you has been blown to pieces. The roof above you is crumbling.

There's a shifting of rubble to your left. Boulders are blasted back. Arcturis, Hemmelus, and Donovan are are pinned inside, shielded by spirit. It flickers away. Underneath that is Hemmelus's own shield of fire and light, spinning gently.

Yi Fang is half-buried in the rubble next to them. One of his arms is just gone - obliterated. He looks up at you. <Why are you standing there! Go! Now!>

What do you do?

>chase after Matthel at full-speed blink
>some other strategy
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>>30227195

>chase after Matthel at full-speed blink

Shouldn't he be a bit disabled?
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>>30227195
>>chase after Matthel at full-speed blink
GOTTA GO FAST
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>>30227195
>Chase
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>>30227195
>chase after Matthel at full-speed blink
Christ...
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>>30227195
>The roof is falling on them
>leave
Nah fuck that help them out of this mess
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>>30227195
>chase after Matthel at full-speed blink
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>>30227233

Shade can do that.

Drop the golem
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>>30227195
>chase after Matthel at full-speed blink
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>>30227195
Blink to Arcturis, Hemmelus, and Donovan. Grab them. Teleport to the sigil room.

FUCK

WHERE'S ADAVAN
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Rolled 14

>>30227195
>chase after Matthel at full-speed blink
every one can handel them selves
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>>30227195
Nightblaze did jackshit
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>>30227195
Chase after him with blink, but also use Terror on him when he gets in range.
also >>30227244
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>>30227195
>chase after Matthel at full-speed blink
>>30227244
This.
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>>30227195
>>chase after Matthel at full-speed blink
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>>30227195
WAIT UNPOCKET LEGION AND HAVE HIM HELP THEM OUT
THEN FUCKING BOOK IT AFTER HIM
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Rolled 13

>>30227244
dis plz
>>
We do have that teleport, guys.
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>>30227195

Looks like we lost Adavan again...
Though we should meet back up with him at his fort once we get the key from the Flint's treasury...

>chase after Matthel.

>>30227244
Do we have Shade with us? If so, then do it. If not, can we sweep them out as we begin our persuit and drop them off outside?
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>>30227246
the fucker dies like crazy, but fortunately him and fang are immortal.
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>>30227195
What direction did Matthel go in?

If he went towards the lift we won't stop him in stop to get to Metatron, in that case we should just teleport there with out anchor instead, with backup.
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>>30227195
...now that we know where the parasite leads, am I the only one wondering if Auriel is a double agent assigned to Flint to make sure he stays alive long enough to get appropriately sacrificed to the Hyperion liberating spell?
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>>30227244
This.
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>>30227255
>Nightblaze did jackshit
Our rolls did jack shit
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>>30227274
Blink to Donovan, Hemmelus, and Arcturis. Grab them and teleport to Metatron's room.
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>>30227195
>>some other strategy
Pretty good thing we set anchor.

>Open our portal.

Even at maximum speed, I can't imagine we'd be able to get down there to cut him off any faster than "immediately".

And it means we can bring allies, if any of them are still up to the task.
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>>30227282
He's obviously going down to fetch the angel.
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>>30227277
>Looks like we lost Adavan again

That's starting to get a little funny.
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>>30227269

NO DAVE, NO!!!! NOW IS NOT THE TIME!!! STOP TENTACLING EVERYTHING!!! BACK TO THE NETHER WITH YOU!!!
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>>30227292

>>30227246
>>30227290
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>>30227195
Well, how about that, Nightblaze did sweet fuckall. What a surprise.
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>>30227298
Fuck ive been reading to much ME and i forgot his name was shade
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>>30227292

Portal takes two combat turns or something like that.
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>>30227288
It was empowered by Resolve it was a longshot
>>30227195
Let's use the gate
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>>30227269

The namefag called this one

why don't we come up with an original plan this time instead of reaching for the usual spells
>>
Matthel has gone down in the direction of the sigil.

Shade will be dropped off to help your allies.

What do you do?

Vote 1:
>secure allies, open a portal to the sigil room

Vote 2:
>chase after Matthel directly, don't let him reach Metatron
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>>30227318
Fast enough.
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>>30227327
>chase after Matthel directly, don't let him reach Metatron
>>
We should drop the wisp and have it find Auriel, Ila, or Abby. They need to get our airship here NOW.
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>>30227327
1
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>>30227326
But that's just silly! I mean, what're you suggesting, we do something creative like stuffing Matthel in a Pocket? Nonsense.
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>>30227327
2
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>>30227297
I'm sure it might be extremely painful.