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You are Reinhold, master swordsman and victor of the Royal Swordsmanship Tournament. The King was so impressed with your skill, he personally requested that you be transferred out of the army and into the Royal Guard! Not bad for an orphan who was raised in a brothel in a poor fishing village.

The only issue at this point is your assignment... you've been charged to be the personal guard of the King's only daughter Marianne. While she is the vision of loveliness that you'd expect from a Princess, her personality is... well... she seems to have some issues.

You're finally awake... though everything still kind of hurts, you're back in one piece at the very least.


>Sorry, but you've been stripped down to the rank of DOG!
>Though dogs are loyal, they're not all that smart...
>Though she still considers you her friend, she thinks a little less of you... and also herself.
>And while dogs are man's best friend, they still don't count as people.


Thread archive:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Princess+Guard+Quest

Character list + descriptions (in progress):
http://pastebin.com/1Vhj4DJv

List and descriptions of the spells shown thus far:
http://pastebin.com/2c9y2sDM

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/QM_Archelon

Quest compilation that's kindly maintained by a person who isn't me:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n4nhs9gd0kmnnni/04tpEy5_pe
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"So, uh... you're sure that King Celestino isn't still suspicious of me for whatever?" you ask, still more than a bit concerned about that little revelation.
"Oh no, that's all cleared up," Agnes says as she shakes her head. "Thierri pretty much forced him to apologize to Gregory for doubting you like that, too!" she laughs.

Well, that's nice to hear.

"I take it that the two of you go way back?" you ask.
"Yes... back when I was but a girl and Celestino's hair still had some color to it, I was lauded as a national treasure of sorts," Agnes replies with an embarrassed smile. "My time in the sun eventually came to an end, but I suppose you can still consider us to be friends. At the very least, he gives me a lot more leeway than he does most of the other nobles."

Like in letting her discipline his children?

"I guess that's yet another reason to stay on my best behavior," Marius says, laughing. "If I make Citrine mad then she can tell on me to you now, and then you'll sic King Celestino on me!"
"As if you'd ever do anything to make me mad," Citrine says, shaking her head as if her husband said the most ridiculous thing ever.

>[1/2]
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Oh boy
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Rolled 6

We're never gonna get that child's drawing, are we?
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So will Reinhold freak out about losing his sword or still be a chill guy?

LETS FIND OUT!
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BUTTER UP BOYS, IT'S THE BEST FREAKING QUEST ON /TG/
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REINHOLD A SHIT
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Hi arch
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>>29716766
>[2/2]

As the others laugh, you start wondering about Celestino... and Monique.

"So, about Monique's sword being a Sealed King," you begin, "how would he even come across one in the first place?" you ask. And it seems dangerous for him to publicly reveal that he has one like he did..."
"Hm?" Agnes turns to you. "How so?"
"Well, what if the King decides to confiscate it from him or something? Or the loads of people who'd be dying to get their hands on one?"

"Ah, I see," Agnes says, snapping her fingers. "While there's definitely a danger in someone jealous that they couldn't get their hands on Setsuranka before that fool did sending assassins after him, a Sealed King isn't exactly the kind of thing that you can simply take from someone else."
"But if he's knocked out, there's nothing keeping someone from just taking it from him," Citrine says.
"The man who engineered the curse that transformed them into swords placed quite a few rules concerning their limits and usage," Agnes says, shrugging.


>ask about da rules
>nah, not interested
>[OTHER]
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>>29716780
>BUTTER UP BOYS, IT'S THE BEST FREAKING QUEST ON /TG/
Not even slightly
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sup arch

hope you're feeling better about whatever was bothering you last thread
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>>29716795
>>ask about da rules
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Christ, where is that reminder anon.
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>>29716784
YOUR SHIT A HAND
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>>29716795

ask about the rules
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>>29716795
>>ask about da rules
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>ask about the rules.

Youve put enough worldbuilding into this universe arch, you HAVE to tell us about this!
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>>29716795
>ask about da rules

why would we not want to know this
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>>29716795

>ask about da rules
Ask about origin of the swords too.
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>>29716795
>ask about the rules, legit curiosity.
>all this talk of swords...time to get a new one unless our's is repairable.
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>>29716795
>ask about da rules
are they written in a big magical tome?
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>>29716795
>Ask about those delicious rules
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>>29716795
>ask about da rules
This I gotta hear
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>>29716750
> and also herself.
Can't have that. Maybe some more ice puns will help convince her that she's not at all to blame, it's just Reinhold being Reinhold.
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>>29716795
>>ask about da rules
Wasn't the guy who did all of this in the first place kind of a nutjob?

I mean, I guess he might have been on the Niklaus end of the nutjob spectrum, but making sure the resulting blades were being used responsibly doesn't really strike me as the kind of thing he would've put the highest priority on.
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>>29716800
judging by the thread size and lack of mass downvotes on suptg, I would be inclined to disagree
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>>29716795
>>ask about da rules
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Alright, so over the course of the last couple of threads I've been formulating a theory about a possible sealed king Reinhold is a shoe in to getting his hands on.

There are 26 sealed kings, and if what Monique says is true, one of them was broken at some point in time.

What if we're wearing a shard of the damn thing on our wrist?!
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>>29716889
Archelon has made it very clear in the past that under no circumstances will he ever allow us to get a Sealed king.
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>>29716876
Probably because everyone else with a brain ignores this quest. And everyone knows votes on sup/tg/ mean nothing because you can proxy spam.
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>>29716795
>ask about da rules
>"Still, that's pretty impressive, I have to congratulate him when I see him next"

Time to be chill about the whole thing
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>>29716889
Allow me to answer that speculation with a resounding
>NO!
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>>29716795
Da rules.
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>>29716795
>ask about da rules

We may as well ask. Though I'd also like to ask about Volker, Volker's sword, reforging it, and her opinion on us trying out using two swords.
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>>29716889
Nah. If Niklaus had a sealed king fragment he wouldnt give it to us, he would examine it to figure out how it was made.

And then go around turning all the nobles into swords. All of them. Everyone gets a sword waifu.
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>>29716795
>ask about da rules

DA RULZ BOIS, LETZ EAR EM
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>>29716889
This will never happen because the QM will cry powergaming.
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>>29716911
Oh that's right. I forgot that archelon hates fun.
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>>29716889
But we know exactly where Tina came from, she's a mad science experiment courtesy of Niklaus derived from the angry parasitic crystals that turn bears into megabears. That theory doesn't track in the slightest.
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>>29716889
No
Just no
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>>29716795
>ask about da rules
and ask about Rein's sword too. we need to reforge that too.
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>>29716938
>cry powergaming
>wave powerful mystic artifacts in our face

I think he's just tsundere to our powergaming ways.
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>>29716868
>making sure the resulting blades were being used responsibly doesn't really strike me as the kind of thing he would've put the highest priority on.
remember that even before all the other sealed kings he first used it on the elemental he fell in love with

>>29716889
one that was destroyed was water iirc, and all we have is normal metal with some crystal lice on it

also, at first chance, can we ask about mari, she hasn't even been mentioned since we woke up
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>>29716889
Nope. Because that would be clever and interesting writing. And we can't have that.
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>>29716908
I want to believe

We will forge our own out of princess love
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>>29716908
Then why are we even playing?
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>>29716989
I think he's a faggot but w/e

I'm just here to samefag controversial votes.
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>>29716923
why do people want to use two swords? if rein has been using one all his life, it'll be nearly like starting from scratch. isn't most of his style reliant on hitting/blocking hard? that needs a stable grip on the sword and a lot of strength, not one in each hand.
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>>29716997
That's incredibly cliche and predictable.
It's also doesn't make sense considering it's a crystal.

But you're just here to start shit, so i'm done.
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>>29716889
its a parasite Ol' Niklaus made for us, Tina is more special then any old sword.
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>>29716990
>also, at first chance, can we ask about mari, she hasn't even been mentioned since we woke up

Yeah, agreed. Reinhold is her bodyguard.
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>>29717043
>That's incredibly cliche and predictable.
Everything in this thread is cliche and predictable so it would fit perfectly.
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>>29717040
Because powergaming
honestly I'm ready to let the powergamers eat the thread alive if that's what it takes to move up in this world. There was a time when I would yell at them for sabotaging our SoL quest, now I see the error of my ways
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>>29717030
We don't need a sword waifu, we will be the the one to Free the Sealed Kings. If doing so, would protect our nation and princess of course.
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>>29717040
>hard hits and blocks
Fuck guys, just wear gauntlets
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>>29717040
iirc correctly volker often used two swords. and as for starting from scratch we need to do that anyway since granny says that volker didn't do the family style right and now we need to get here out of the shithole that is marconetti and come live with us, train us, and ship her with arnaud
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>>29717040
I could see Reinhold experimenting with it. His mentor did it and managed just fine.

I'm not saying we instantly switch over, more that we find Nico on a slow day and try using two swords in a friendly sparring match because it'll be fun and who knows, maybe at some point Nico will have to fight a guy with two swords and the practice will be good for her.
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>>29716908
>>29716913
I'm just saying, it's pretty convenient Monique ended up with an Ice type sealed king to match his affinity.

It would be equally convenient for us to end up with a metal type sealed king to match our affinity.

It's still a shot in the dark, but even if Archelon won't let us wield the full blade, I'm still nealy 100% positive the "crystals" Niklaus was experimenting on are shards of said blade.

>>29716953
The Crystals are more like a fluid metal from what I've seen, and the super-bear thing can be explained as a sort of pseudo possession state, like what Monique's blade did for him.

>>29716925
>>29717048
I don't think Nicklaus knows exactly what the shards are, that's why he's experimenting on them.
He didn't make the parasites himself, he probably scraped them off of some wildlife.
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>>29717074
It's in character to want to get stronger and better at our job, so it's not a big deal

As long as we aren't acting like complete retards so we can accumulate MO POWA than it's fine
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>>29716804
Not really, but I appreciate the sentiment.

>>29716780
Peter Parker Quest is a better Parker story than Marvel's had since killing off Ultimate Pete, and a better quest than this.

>>29716939
Yup. I hate fun even more than I hate dandelions.
And I HATE dandelions.


>writing
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>>29717143
I don't care what shitposters say, you're a pretty cool guy arch

But fuck you for not making giant bears canon
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>>29717030
for monique

we are playing for monique POV.
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as for us getting a sealed king, the only way i see that happening would be to get the one volker died trying to get, so that we could honor his memory/avenge his death, regardless of how strong it is, and even then only after serious adventuring
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Why does anybody like Monique? He's such a gigantic douchebag.
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>>29717164
I will accept this.
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>>29717166

no
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>>29717143
to be fair, dandelions are annoying as fuck to get out of a yard once they start setting in

>>29717161
i thought he did make giant bears canon when sylvie punched one to death
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>>29716889
Considering that Niklaus made this in an experiment, this seems incredibly unlikely.

That said, looking back at the thread where he told us about it...
>"Meh," Niklaus shrugs. "It flat-out doesn't work anyways, and even if it did, I can always cut off the arm that gets infested and grow a new one."

>"G- grow a... what?"

>"Regeneration's a simple matter... anyways, I'm not able to figure out just how to recreate 'Gran'... so I've turned my sights to the independent type."
This is literally the only time 'Gran' has been mentioned in the entire quest—mentioned as an unfeasible goal under a line of questioning about why he gave up on researching crystalline parasite-human bonding.

Maybe a thing worth asking for clarification on next time we see Niklaus, hm?

>>29716990
I feel like if you had an elemental waifu, you wouldn't want to put a provision into the spell binding her to a physical object that would allow people to take her from you provided that you weren't conscious.
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>>29717184
Why does anybody like Reinhold? He's a typical beta maximus retard.
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>>29717193

yep
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>>29717184
you answered your own question.
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>>29717202
I thought it was just a normal bear but crystal shit infesting it.
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>>29717202
No, that was a super crystal bear. It was regular bear size, just extra stronk.
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If we get a Sealed King it better be Metal type and it better be Tsundere
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>>29717184
only in regards to rein, otherwise he's decent, if a bit pompous
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>>29717228

Sealed Queen
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>>29717161
Every day until we get out burr waifu
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>>29717184
>>29717213
I've realised I despise every character in this.

Join me. It is easier.
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>>29717228
Marianne is a Sealed King
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>>29717216

nop
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>>29717166
I'm down for some serious adventuring.

I don't like the idea of leaving our post, (rendering the "princess guard" part of the quest obsolete) but I want to actually get out there and do some first hand exploration of the world Archelons crafted here. We can really only get hearsay while attached to the princess all day.

If we do go on an adventure, I would vote we do so alone. It would be nice to take a vacation from the waifuing,
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>>29717239
can we have one of both?
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>>29717184
He's a misguided fool that puts on a facetious facade in order to win friends and attention
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>>29717228
I-its not like i save you from that wound, it just got in my way from fighting.
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>>29717213
Archelon portrayed him as one initially and it just spiraled from there. I would have made him that nice.
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>>29717248
No no, not yet

I still like Nicolette
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>>29717228
>this will never happen
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>>29717184
They like him because he's almost as egotistical as the average fa/tg/uy.
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>>29717264
I know how you feel.
I didn't care much at first, but I really want to delve into the lore and areas of this universe instead of sitting in castle home.

Wanderlust I guess.
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>>29717287
I can't comprehend Morgan Freeman voicing a tsundere.
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>Reinhold's new theme

www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2I_pIJaXVs
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>>29717248
then why are you here?
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>>29717318
I can.

I'd wield tsundere Morgan Freeman magic talking sword in a heartbeat. It would be the best thing ever.
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>>29717287
10/10 would talk to every minute everyday.
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for all you wiafu guys.
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>>29717352
>>29717318
Fuck you any disembodied voice is automatically James Earl Jones
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>>29717343
>Reinhold's theme
>Not Broke, beaten, and scarred
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>>29717264
>>29717314
>Celestino tries to marry Monique to Luciana
>Luciana flees the country
>Drags Marianne and Co. along with her

This is the only possible path I can see which leads to adventure.
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>>29717344
Because when there is an important vote I like to samefag it and view the anguish.
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>>29717438
lol what a waste of a life.
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>>29717456
>Says someone who browses 4chan regularly
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>>29717264
if the only way the quest continues is to guard the princess than the key is celestino. if he okays luci going out on an adventure, luci will ask mari, who has said she'd go if she could go with luci, we'd go with mari, nico could come to earn her knight title doing something impressive, sylvie could come as backup/making sure luci doesn't try anything, rana and reya could come as hired help, emelio could come to man him up through ADVENTURE, melon could come to make sure everyone ate more than roots and wild berries, taka and carol could come as more guards

am i forgetting anyone? honestly i want more time with taka, emelio, karel, and starry sky. we need more guy friends
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>>29717343
I've got Matthias's right here.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyHPIcbn88
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>>29717431
Speaking of such, am I the only one who got REALLY nervous after Luci said her father "wanted to talk to her about something" like immediately after someone brought up that theory?
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>>29717228
We will never have a sword waifu except during Monique PoV.

And then the sword waifu will be us.
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Hey Arch, wrote a fanmail letter for you.
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>>29717431
>Monique won against Reinhold in duel
>Since Monique won this time, it retroactively makes Monique the true bodyguard of the princess
>Thierri fires us and hires Monique
>We go on quest to get a sealed king so we could be powerful enough to defeat Monique and reclaim our rightful position as guardian of the princess

That sounds like such a great adventure.
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I have a problem with the cursing in the quest. I'm not against cursing in general, it's that it happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Keep questionable words in reserve so that when you deploy them they have more oomph. A character that swears often, like Nico or Gregory, seems so out of place.
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>>29717475
Implying I browse regularly.
I don't even know how to spoiler.
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>>29717476
Honestly that's just asking for somebody to sweep by and clear up an entire roost of royalty
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>>29717486
You really like to post this shitty video every chance you get.
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>>29717494
>F5
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>>29717487
celestino respects luci enough to let her turn someone down, but whoever she winds up with has to benefit the country in some way
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>>29717508
Select the text then Ctrl+S.

You could also try reading the FAQ.
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>>29717497
Then, 20 years later, we show up, walk right up to him, and kick him in the balls before he can react.
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>>29717509
Yeah, Monique when the sword corrupts him
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>>29717438
So you spend hours a night reading a thread you dont like just to make other peoples lives miserable?
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>>29717497
There's no way in hell Thierri is going to fire us or hire Monique, you seem to forget how much Marianne hates Monique and how much Thierri loves his daughter.
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>>29717497
I don't know how to feel about this.

I'm rolling with whatever happens I guess
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So is monique paralyzed or in a coma?
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>>29717494
d'awwww that's really cute.

really love to burn it.
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>>29717497
I doubt Thierri is very fond of Monique.
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>>29717546
That's another thing, I'm really suspicious of that sword.

It seemed cool in the duel, but why the fuck should we believe it? Brainwashing 101 is making someone think you are their friend, and then make them think that you are their only friend.
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>>29717497
>>Thierri fires us and hires Monique
>mari proceeds to smother him in his sleep
she hates the idea of being with him and thierri has us on to be her friend more than anything else

>>29717509
hence the hired dragons
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>>29717476
At that point it stops being an adventuring party and becomes a small army.
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>>29717572
>>29717550
>>29717582

>Not understanding the joking nature of the post
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>>29717554
he just had a long night of hate sex between karel and her mom, probably still asleep.
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>>29717582
They're still teenagers.
And i'm pretty sure Marianne is the sole heir too.
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>>29717494
>implying there's no piss forest in archelon's magical realm
We've only seen a small fraction of the setting, remember>
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>>29717576
honestly i grew suspicious when it called him master. i can get putting up with we lowly mortals due to being sealed and all, but it's still a fucking demi god
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>>29717601
was he still awake during said hate sex?
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>>29717549
Yes.
I have three screens though, so I can just occasionally peak at the thread at critical moments.

One screen dedicated to this and monitoring.
One for gaming.
and the last one for irc/music.
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Guys, we never going to get a sealed king. It a magical nuke sword that GM archelon said we NEVER EVER GOING TO GET. EVER. So no Metal Sealed sword.

But Monique some how for some reason gotten one of the 26 sealed swords and archelon thought it was some how possible to beat him?

No. Not with the sword keeping him together. it was impossible from the start.

Honestly the GM could have done this better, by making Monique train or shit and get better or use a magical sword but no sealed king.

That plus the fact we never going to get a sealed king kinda fucked things up even further when our "rival" gotten his hands on one. There also the fact that even with the rules he bend to use the magical sword, he still won despise the fact that he broken the damn rules he fucking bend due to the sword keeping him going.

Heck, the whole thing about the great grandfather was the one who made the rules made thing even more bullshit than before.

All the "hype" for the damn duel and it was all for nothing.

It was a fucking disaster.
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Imagine if rein's gains a sealed king whose whole gimmick is to absorb blows and break upon impact to send shards of metal raining down on targets only to be reformed and fixed in seconds.

[Spoiler] The sword will be extreamly sadomasochistic, taking great pleasure in being used for combat and being broken apart
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>>29717615
Piss is a sub-element of water. Eventually we'll fight a piss Devil Child.
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>>29717611
Thierri has a brother somewhere but he's basically abdicated. Plus Marrianne might be first in line anyway, if they go by full cognatic primogeniture.
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>>29717626
We could have beaten him, if we rolled a crit when we knocked him out.

But, by and large, it was clearly a fight we weren't meant to win.
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>>29717640
/b/ giving form?
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>>29717623
he was asleep the whole time, his sealed king did all the ravage thrusting.
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>>29717655
GOOD THING CRITS WERE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THANKS TO THE DICE CHANGE HEY
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>>29717626
No, no it wasn't.

That's how things happen, and Monique got lucky in finding a treasure.
Not everything has to go Reinhold's way.
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"There're rules to those things?" you ask.
"I memorized them when I was a little girl since I dreamed of being lucky enough to find one," Agnes sighs nostalgically. "I guess I shouldn't expect everyone to know them off-hand like I do, though... I take it that you're interested in hearing about them?"
"If it's not too much trouble," you reply.

"Very well, then..." Agnes smiles. "The most basic aspect of the Sealed King is that they grant their holder the same powers as the elemental spirit from which they were created. So that Gilbeault boy can utilize ice magic just as easily as any Contractor or Devil Child, and doesn't have to Conceptualize Script or Invoke the spell or any of that in order to do so."
"That sounds pretty convenient," Citrine replies.

"But it's not as if just anyone can pick one up and use it," Agnes continues, "the Sealed Kings themselves are still alive... even though they're trapped in sword form."
"What, so they pick their masters?" you ask.

>[1/?]
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>>29717611
>And i'm pretty sure Marianne is the sole heir too.
mari is first in line, but they have a full order of who would get the throne if it wasn't her
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>>29717655
>>29717677
>No. Not with the sword keeping him together. it was impossible from the start.
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>>29717677
The one we voted to pass.
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>>29717626

We don't need a Sealed King.

We just need a sword that can withstand the cold and won't break from the forces. A flaming sword of reasonable weight is a nice start.
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>>29717626
Of course we won't get a sealed king with THAT kind of attitude!

Get it together anon, nothing is set in stone.

If we collectively put our heads together towards the goal of getting a sealed king, I'm sure we could get one.

Of course, it would require we become a dick obsessed with getting it, but it's hard to have cake and eat it.
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>>29717677
no, if you beat a dc by a certain amount it counted as a crit.
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>>29717697
Arch specifically stated that if we rolled a crit, he would have stayed down.
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>>29717648
What if

What if Adrien is Thierri's brother
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>>29717632
Shit, roll failed, new fetish acquired. Well played, anon.
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>>29717626
We don't need a sealed king. That's why we'll never get one. Plus it's not as narratively appropriate.

We'll have one (be one!) when playing as Monique though.
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>>29717701
Dude, archelon said no sealed sword ever for us.

He hates power gaming. Seeking power is useless.

We get what we got and that that.
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>>29717699
I sure as fuck didn't vote for it.
I saw it as training wheels for an already easy quest and to make things worse it made crits useless.
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>>29717701
NO
WE MUST FORGE OUR OWN SEALED KING
WITH US INSIDE OF IT

Nicklaus can help
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>>29717710
Nope you needed a 20 and something else over the dc.
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>>29717730
Well isn't that just fascinating.
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>>29717741
But Reinhold isn't a king. It would be a sealed bodyguard.
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>>29717715
I seem to recall Thierries bother started with an H or an L...

I don't know. It would be pretty badass if you were right though.
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>>29717697
He siad that the crit would have ket him down.
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>>29717701
The best we can do is learn a WHOLE NEW SPELL EVERY NIGHT WOWZERS!!

ANYTHING MORE AND IT'S POWERGAMING. (which is actually fun, but hey, the QM has a hateboner for it so w/e)
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>>29717730
if you dont like it, you are not being kept here.
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>>29717761
Raul
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>>29717759
We can't get an sealed king, and I don't think it possible to become a sealed king. If so, many powerful people would have done so before they died of old age.
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>>29717730
>training wheels for an already easy quest
How can a story be easy or hard?
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>>29717689
> can utilize ice magic just as easily as any Contractor or Devil Child, and doesn't have to Conceptualize Script or Invoke the spell or any of that in order to do so.

fuck yeah bitch.
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>>29717699
You mean the votes that we know are being samefagged by people who hate us and hate the quest?

Good to know.
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>>29717700

This.

We have plenty of money set aside.

Lets get our own magic sword. Something that can stand up to temperature based attacks.
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>>29717759
We're the king of break
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>>29717761
Thierri's brother's name name is Raoul.
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>>29717796
1/10 shitty sword would not duel with

This is the time we should take up a mace instead
That's where the real pussygame is at
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>>29717759
it's already given he will be king.
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>>29717729
Look man, I'm getting real tired of the "BUT ARCHELON SAID!" shit.

It's not that your wrong, Archelon may very well never let us have one.

But at least come up with a real reason we CANNOT get one, other than "God says we can't, so we can't."
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>>29717689
>"The most basic aspect of the Sealed King is that they grant their holder the same powers as the elemental spirit from which they were created. So that Gilbeault boy can utilize ice magic just as easily as any Contractor or Devil Child, and doesn't have to Conceptualize Script or Invoke the spell or any of that in order to do so."
...so wait, if this is the case, why did Anrasorana feel the need to contract with his holder in addition to letting him be his master?
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>>29717759
technically, if we marry a princess and become a king and then get sealed AFTER that, than we would literally be a sealed king.
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>>29717786
We rarely get into fights and it is mostly dialogue, so the moments when we needed to roll was a breathe of fresh air since it gave it a chance to actually fail and impact the story instead of insulting a girl and making up the next day.
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>>29717794
>We have plenty of money set aside.
we also have a grandma with a massive sword collection that gave volker his, and a mad scientist friend that would be more than happy to give us enough of that bracelet material to make an amorphous blade that we could instantly reforge
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>>29717689
Hey Archelon QM, i know you said we are not going to GET a sealed king, but what is to stop us from MAKING a rival to a sealed king class (or near enough) sword ourselves?
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>>29717844
we need to have seal cavalry if we become king
our apparently compulsive need for bad puns compels us
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>>29717859
are you honestly this fucking stupid.
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>>29717859
Being shitty at magic?
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>>29717835
But that the whole fucking reason.

When god said you can't do something and you attempt to do the thing he said you CAN'T do, you unable to do so.

If god told you can't swim and you try to swim, guess what, you fucking drown.
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>>29717844
i think we'd be prince consort technically
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>>29717870
Just ignore the fucker, like most people from AI quest do.
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>>29717848
You sure Niklaus would do that? I can't really get a good read on him.
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>>29717859

And you stupid?

Who are you going to seal in a blade?
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>>29717835
>But at least come up with a real reason we CANNOT get one, other than "God says we can't, so we can't."

Because god says we can't, so we can't

Sorry, this is like trying to push for harem mode. If you piss off god too much he's going to just fucking kill us. This is a line he has drawn, do you want to test it?

Fuck you blotch captcha, I hope you rot in shit.
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I must have missed it, but when did Arch say we weren't getting a sealed king?
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>>29717865
>Seal cavalry

>Dad... why can't we eat tonight?
>Son, our glorious king spent the national treasury on imported seals for the army
>But...why?
>Because it was a great StEAL
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>>29717912
I think it was way early in the quest, when people were all talking about upgrading our equipment and raiding the vault for powerful weapons.
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>>29717835
>"LETS DO A THING THAT THE PERSON WHO CONTROLS THIS WILL NEVER LET HAPPEN."

Oh my fucking god.

The /qtg/ was right.

Every single player in this quest is a massive fucking idiot.

And now I'm posting here too. Jesus fucking christ.
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>>29717891
i think he'd do it more for the sake of SCIENCE!!! than for us but i can completely see him doing it. think of it as just moving his bracelet experiment up a notch. "yes it works, but is there a limit to the amount of matter that can be influenced at one time"
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>>29717891
>>29717859
i think if er get Niklaus to help us re make our broken sword into a crystal magic one we will be pretty op
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>>29717885
How do I filter a nigga this dumb
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>>29717937
>Every single player in this quest is a massive fucking idiot.
i think it's just one or two repeatedly posting
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>>29717859
Because the guy who has the spell has been dead for a thousand years I think
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>>29717794
>>29717848

An idea.

Titanium. It doesn't shatter easily, it doesn't rust, it's not a great electric conductor. Weight wise you can make something reasonably big and strong while having a decent swing speed to it. It's not the best for offensive enchantments but it'd be a PHENOMENAL defender, and our job is defense. Just gotta put some kind of metal magic on it and it'll be a perfect Reinblade.
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>>29717912
Because exactly what's happening right now.

We're clamoring for one just because Monique has one and Reinhold's MC so he's got to get one by law, right?

No, because it's fucking rare and that's the point.

I still want to believe too though
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>>29717835
because there are like 26 of them in existence and the people who vastly outclass us in every way can't get a hold of them and monique getting one is probably a huge fluke

that's like saying to a DM "what do you mean i'm never going to find an assault rifle, what's your justification for that" in a low fantasy setting.
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>>29717835
Why would Reinhold want a sealed king, and even if he does how is he going to get it? He likes his life now just being a bodyguard with all the privileges. He can't just go off adventuring and he probably doesn't even want to.

>>29717859

Because we don't know a thing about sealed kings other than what people have told us. We are clueless.
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>>29717912
early on the quest, go archive diving if your really want proof.
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>>29717837
He contracted with him prior to getting sealed.
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>>29717912
It was when power gamers caused 2-4 shit storms and caused arch to say we have the best gear around.
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>>29717976
Dude, this is a -sword- we're talking about here.

You can't make it out of some pussy shit titanium. It has to be hand-forged from meteoric iron.
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>>29717968
4chanx comes with a mini guide on how to do it.
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>>29717935
>>29717998
Thanks
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>>29717976
>Titanium.
WOW.

GREAT IDEA YA DRINGUS.

WE'LL JUST USE THE METAL THAT NEEDS ELECTRICAL FURNACES, VACUUM CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENTS AND HEAVY CHEMICAL REFINING TO MAKE.
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>>29718027
THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP MOTHERFUCKER
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>>29717995
Man, the contractee must have been piiiiissed.

>"Anrasorana, I'm home!"
>Sword
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>>29717976
Titanium has shit stress ratings though with low fatigue. Parry the wrong attack and it'll bend right over and let that attack through.

Plus the obvious problem of this being MEDIEVAL FANTASY so therefore alloys are right out unless it's some kind of bullshit magical alloy.
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>>29717976
One thing about us being defense though is that our fighting style is largely offensive. Just like in the duel we are the offensive type. If we should be doing anything it would be getting better at what we are already good at and supplement that with smaller skills.
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>>29718027
Well, this is a high-magic setting.
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>>29718027
MAGIC AND SHIT
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>>29718027
>>29718041

Magic for some kind of Fantasy Alloy like Amalgam or Mithral?
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>>29717976
Nigga if they have the metallurgical prowess to purify and forge titanium then they can make us something out of a high carbon steel alloy that isn't brittle as hell.

Titanium shatters like a mofo.and we already break swords as it is.
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Rolled 93

>>29718027

MAGIC realm much? every one knows you get Titanium when a wizard casts refine on 'mineral sands'
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So as its plainly obvious we have someone actively starting shit right now.
If you believe you are about to respond to said person, please take a moment to consider if you actually want to start a conversation with them.
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>>29717995
>Mainly because Anrasorana ran a dojo which was taken over by the only person he ever contracted with after his sealing.

So it was an ambiguous language thing; this was intended to mean that the only man he EVER contracted with took over the dojo after Anrasorana was sealed (and thus could not run the dojo any longer), rather than that the only man who he contracted with after having been sealed took over the dojo.

Cool.
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>>29718027
you forgot also does not take an edge
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>>29718058
YOU HAVE TO HEAT TITANIUM TO 2000K TO MELT IT

AND THAT'S NOT EVEN REFINING IT FROM THE SHITTY ROCKS THAT CONTAIN 0.10% TIATNIUM.

TWOTHOUSAND DEGREES KELVIN.

AT THIS TEMPERATURE IT REACTS WITH ANYTHING. CHIEFLY OXYGEN.

SAY MAGIC MOTHERFUCKER

I DARE YOU

SEE WHAT HAPPENS FAGGOT
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>>29718112
MAGIC
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>>29718112
GM will not allow it to happened.

Even if it was possible due to physics and magic, Gm will not allow it because it is powergaming.
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>>29718112
MAGIC MOTHERFUCKER.

I couldn't help it. Had to say it.
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>>29718112
I won't say that any magic can do it
But Niklaus, the resident supermage alchemist can probably make something at least as good as titanium
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>>29718112
magic
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>>29718112
Magic science.
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>>29717879
>>29717911
>>29717937
Meh, people have lied to others before. I just assume that IF/WHEN we get a SWORD OF SUPER KILLIFICATION DEATH SLASHIES, it will be for a reason that will make sense in the story, not because a bunch of random weirdos (most of us posters) really, really, REALLY wanted it.
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>>29718112
Even if you made a titanium sword it would suck nuts compared to a good steel one.
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>>29717689

"That's right," Agnes says, nodding. "They choose a master based on personality or elemental affinity or even because there's nobody else around to choose from, and the person that they pick is bonded to them for life. The master they choose is then mentally linked with the sword, the elemental can telepathically communicate with them."

"But the master is the -only- person who the elemental spirit can communicate with, so choosing a master is a rather big deal for them," Agnes explains.
"Yeah, it'd suck to be stuck with a total jerk as the only person you're able to talk to for sixty years," Citrine nods.
"Like Monique Gilbeault," Sylvie says, a scowl on her face.
"Yes..." Agnes sighs. "...and Celestino or Thierri couldn't confiscate Setsuranka from him even if they wanted to, as he's been recognized as her master. There's a few spells out there that can recall a named object to its user's hand, and the world itself doesn't recognize theft as a valid change in ownership."

You're getting kind of lost here.

"Wait, 'the world?'" you ask.
"Yes, like now the world recognizes aggression towards the target of a Sanctuary spell and shields them from harm... I like to think it's simply the will of God, but others like to argue about that," Agnes replies.

>[2/?]
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>>29717893
>>29717877
>>29717870
you shit heads don't get it do you? The sub quest to make a powerful sword for ourselves is always near end game goal. i never said RIGHT NOW! Reinhold has to work at it to make himself worth of having it too.
>>29717949
and THIS anon knows what's up. I am sure Niklaus won't make an ultra sword from a broken one, but i bet he can at least make one that is better than a masterwork grade sword.
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Let's just go with the idea we had before the Sealed King showed up, christ: a highly skilled spell sword. Because, regardless of a sealed king or not, I'm sure that we agree that people the likes of Gregory and Arnaud could handle anything thrown their way.
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Archelon, an open question to diffuse the building Science Magic storm that seems to be brewing.

What kind of fantasy metals or Supernaturally Suffused Minerals/Metals what are interestingly uncommon but do exist in setting are there in your setting?
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>>29718101
just going to draw attention to this once more.
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Man why can't we just have a normal sword. Ask gram gram where she got Volker's sword and we just get another one of those. With shit we can customize.
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>>29718179
>Monique's bullshit intensifies
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>>29718184
Seriously. No matter what we do, nothing we make it going to be as cool as a Sealed King. Stop trying to plan the super ultimate blade we can make and accept we're going to have to settle for a reasonably decent blade and just be badass skill wise.
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>>29718196
explain?
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>>29718179
Reality confirmed for sentient. We are in a computer program.
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>>29718134
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

FUCK OFF

YOU DON'T JUST MAKE TITANIUM WITH MAGIC

YOU CANT
YOU
YOU FUCKING CANT

DO YOU KNOW JUST HOW TIME CONSUMING THE KROLL PROCESS IS

FUCK YOU IS HOW LONG IT TAKES.

YOU NEED TO TREAT EVERYTHING.

YOU NEED TO TURN IT INTO TITANIUM TETRACHLORIDE.
YOU NEED TO FRACTIONALLY DISTILL THE TI(CL4)
YOU NEED TO PUT IT IN A VACUUM TO CAST IT

AND I'VE DUMBED IT DOWN

TITANIUM IS FUCKING HORRIBLE
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>>29718180
Dude, it been fucking 100 thread already.

It seems more like a damn movie or a story than a quest due to how little the character interacts, change or know about the world.
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>>29718196

Maybe Setsuranka genuinely likes Monique. Plenty of us here seem to like him.
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>>29718196
If it wasn't for the fact everyone hates him and he has frequent nervous breakdowns, he'd be a pretty solid gary stu.
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>>29718179
well fuck, there goes that idea of Thierri taking the sealed king from Monique.
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I think it's hilarious how butthurt people are getting about Monique. It's nearly as entertaining as the quest itself.

Good show, Arch.
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>>29718112
Calm down man. We're suspending reason for fantasy.

I am entirely comfortable with the idea that in a world where objects that can materialize from nothing, inanimate objects can be animated, and the concept whether or not something has a soul is objective and empirical,

I am comfortable that an object's entropy can be manipulated.
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>>29718223
well, you should be glad that it's easier with MAGIC
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>>29718223
>autism

Titanium is a horrible metal for a sword, but you're sperging out about this way too much.
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>>29718223
What about magic titanium?
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>>29718228
Monique 's character is that he's an ordinary pushover noble that happens to put on a dickhead personality because that's what he thinks being a noble is.
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>>29718223
You're assuming we can't just use magic to just...magically extract the titanium. And then use magic to work it.
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>>29718231
Eh no.

The whole fucking country loves him and now he got a magical nuke sword that the PC will never ever fucking get.
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>>29718196
Get off your autism horse. Monique is great.
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>>29718223
okay confirmed for autistic. Calm your shit.
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>>29718218
see >>29718231 while remembering "everyone" is basically our close circle of friends +Gregory. Important all of them, but few
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PLS stop the shitstorms
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Aside from Material, there is also forging or construction technique.

Imagine using delicate magic to shape the internal structure into a series of honeycombs, a very structural sound shape? Or would that be bullshit.
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>>29718184
personally i want the bracelet modded volker sword from niklas because
1. it lets rein keep using volker's sword, which would be a big thing for him
2. even if we don't get the control over it's amorphous shape like kayneth had with the mercury in fate/zero, just being able to reforge it if it does break fits rein's style amazingly
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>>29718223
thank goodness for magic
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Some of you wanted sword waifu NTR, you certainly got it. Honestly I am taking this as a hint to steer us away from the pursuit of power/glory. Obtaining powerful magic weapons is not a primary goal of this quest.
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Arch, the reason thread quality has decreased is because everyone is sick of Marconetti and also Monique's bullshit

It happens. I think a change of scenery will fix it, but no need to rush these things.
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>>29718263
The actual royal family of the country he lives in doesn't really like him one bit.

Who cares what the peasantry thinks?
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>>29718240
>people

I'm pretty sure it's one guy convinced that monique is arch's self insert DMPC or something
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>>29718256
Fuck Magic Titanium.

Get some Space Titanium
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>>29718307
Probably two.
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>>29718223
MAAAAGGGIIIIICCCC

LIBERAL DOSES OF HANDWAVIUM SHOULD HELP WITH CREATING ENOUGH HEAT, WITH A LARGE CHUNK OF UNOBTAINIUM TO MIX IN WITH THE METAL

WHOOO, MAGIC WIZARD BULLSHIT WHO THE FUCK CARES ITS MAGIC
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>>29718301
Also the fucking nobles love him for beating down the peasent bodyguard.

the actual royal family might not like him but the absolute rest of the country fucking loves him.
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>>29718289
While you are right, I can see why people are so eager to. Our main rival got something we'll never match in any way and anything we get won't be very impressive in comparison. Players hate not being able to be top dog in stuff.
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(1/2)
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>>29718289
But we're a fucking bodyguard. How can we guard without power?
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>Titanium sperg
I'm fucking dying. This is so unbelievably stupid.
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>>29718325
Well we did have a character find a sealed king under his bed so I'm pretty much okay with anything at this point
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>>29718226
i can fully believe this quest to run into 1,000 threads. It's already a VN Arch is making. i can't put it past the idea that someone will write a novel or make a movie about this quest. Shit, i bet hollywood would jump all over this in time. they are so empty of new ideas and this one is rather fresh and all.
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Monique is a great character because he makes /tg/ collectively shit itself in autism rage and jealously. Fucking great job on him, Arch, although I'm sure it was an accident.
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>>29718179
>The will of god

I'M ON TO YOU ARCH
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>>29718347
(2/2)
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I still say we just ought to roll with creating our own sentient weapon through Tina, since Arch hinted that it's possible, though it won't be easy from that same hint.
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If we ever get some sort of sealed sword equivalent I bet it'll be whichever waifu we picked trapped in a sword.
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>>29718231
but i like him anon.
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>>29718328
>>29718352
>Bawwwww I'm not the biggest dog in the setting bawwwwwwww.
>The protagonist lost, all is over
>bawwwww
>Why can we lose in anything
>Why aren't we perfect

This is getting kind of repetitive. Stop throwing tantrums over a quest on the Internet.
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>>29718297
>also Monique's bullshit
this is arguable, but i agree with your other point.
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>>29718381
Fuck off you prick
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>>29718321
Make that three you little bitch because now that someone's mentioned it, it makes an AWFUL lot of sense.
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>>29718369
>It's already a VN Arch is making
i thought it was supposed to be a comic but he gave up do to not being able to draw


also arch, question about the rules of sealed kings. if someone with an element bonds with a sealed king of a different element, does the wielder's element change?
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>>29716750
You should take a break for a month or two. Mess around with Renpy, plan the routes out, do some editing. Keep us updated on progress.

Then maybe continue the quest after things have calmed down or just keep making the game.
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>>29718403
>>Why aren't we perfect
More like why aren't we slightly good in any way?
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Are you trying to communicate with people now?
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>>29718361
I'm actually surprised Monique wasn't walking funny during the duel from pulling that sword out from his ass.
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>>29718403
You're an idiot, it's not because we aren't the big dog, it's that the ceiling of power levels was established to be with these fucking swords and one of the characters just walks into the quest with one of these swords.

How do you fucking recover the story after that? This is worse than copies of the sword of light.
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>>29718417
>"Wait, 'the world?'" you ask.
>"Yes, like now the world recognizes aggression towards the target of a Sanctuary spell and shields them from harm... I like to think it's simply the will of God, but others like to argue about that," Agnes replies.
Accidental repeat of last post. Delete imminent?
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>>29718421
This will be addressed in the net story post.
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>>29718317
how about a sword made of gundanium?
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>>29718347
>>29718381

why am i finding this so hilarious
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>>29718430
Yes. Because we totally didn't gut him before the powerup, and neither are we nearly the best damned swordsman in two lands, given our age. And are being trained by goddamn Arnaud. Give us some credit.

>>29718436
>You're an idiot, it's not because we aren't the big dog
No, that's exactly it. Autists going to autism.
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>>29718430
>why aren't we slightly good in any way?
>Pretty much everyone worth a damn is damned impressed with us
>We've won every fight we've been in so far

You're an idiot.
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>>29718403
I don't care about that. I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to hate the idea of the protagonist getting stronger, if we're massively under-qualified for our job.
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>>29718403
>big dawg in quest

More like "We have built the story up to be us slowly gaining power and someone cuts ahead to the front of the line"
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>>29718448
Why not just build a Gundam?
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>>29718179

"So you can't steal them from their owners, and the man who designed their curse also made it so that anyone connected to the death of a sword's owner isn't able to be chosen as its new master," Agnes sighs. "I suspect that's why Volker's rivals to getting the Sealed King struck when they did..."

"...because they'd have to get both Volker and Adrien out of the way before the sword could pick either of them," you say.
"That's my guess, at least."

>[3/?]
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thank you, have pic since i think this is the thing other anons said you liked
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>>29718449
Because they're moving.

ITS THE ONLY WAY TO GET IT THROUGH
HIS THICK
FUCKING
STUPID
SKULL
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>>29718424
Fuck that.
Not that I want Arch to push himself,he should continue as is.

You can't shake off trolls, they're here for every popular quest. It's just the way of things.
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>>29718417

Is there any rule concerning the revelation of a sword's enchantments in the middle of a match?
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>>29718454
We need to crit the roll.

With the rules of the dice, that was fucking impossible.

I believe the chances of success was like 2 percent or 4 due to mathematics in a qtq thread.
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...I want to read more of gram gram's lecture...and not this thread's background argument about metals, science, and magic.

Please can we reign this in and not go full shitstorm?
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>>29718454
> and neither are we nearly the best damned swordsman in two lands

Which is completely meaningless. Magic so overwhelms any ability with a sword that swordsmanship is a worthless skill. And even in duels, enough magic is permitted that actual personal skill with a sort doesn't matter.
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>>29718448
What if we made our sword out of Uranium 235? Eh? It's even called weapons grade Uranium in high concentrations, so you know it exists to be made into a weapon like a sword.
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>>29718454
>No, that's exactly it. Autists going to autism.

no, that's your strawman to keep lying to yourself that this turn of event is anything but narrative convenience.
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Archelon you better have a gun because I'm gonna find where you live and come and beat the shit out of you.
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>>29718507
Nigga what the fuck
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>>29718505
>>29718507
if you're so butthurt just stop following the quest

seriously, man

why are you even still here?
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>>29718497
>And even in duels, enough magic is permitted that actual personal skill with a sort doesn't matter.
This is true. Hopefully Karel and us can bitch at Celestino enough to make some changes. Or something. archelon has already said this will be addressed IC.

>>29718505
>no, that's your strawman to keep lying to yourself that this turn of event is anything but narrative convenience.
If you hate what archelon is doing why bother following the quest? I am legit curious.
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>>29718487
For fucks sake it was considered a win already just drop the fucking rule breaking spiel.
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Lunar Titanium, I like the idea.
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>>29718507
Nigga you better have a good monitor, because i'm going to find where you live and come and beat the shit out of you.
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>>29718507

man what?
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>>29718479
AND ON THIS CORNER IS REINHOLD PILOTING THE PTSD GUNDAM
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>>29718507
forgot my name :^)
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>>29718532
no fuck you
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>>29718489
Yet people chose that option and we saw 20s get wasted left and right.
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>>29718507
The fuck is wrong with you.
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>>29718436
>This is worse than copies of the sword of light.

I don't like it as much as you, but come on, the sword of light thing was a joke to how DMs make uber-weapons but then realize "oh shit, that trivializes everything they come across from now on" which results in making copies of the same weapon. It's a joke making fun of the power treadmill
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>>29718532
I'm curious since it seems that all the rules are immediately skewed to favor Monique.
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>>29718479
That will be our final form, as metal aligned.
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>>29718507
Sorry, but I found that funny for some reason.
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>DEATH THREATS
>RAMPANT NAMEFAGS
>STORY GOING NOWHERE
>POSTING THE SAME SENTENCES OVER AND OVER AGAIN


THE END TIMES HATH ARRIVED.
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>Start following PGQ to find a break from Shadow Quest's toxic fanbase.
>PGQ's fanbase goes toxic.
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>>29718592
Shut the FUCK up already, you're only making it worse.
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>>29718527
>>29718521
>gosh if you don't like it stop reading it

I've been following since thread 20. I think it's bullshit, but I want to see where it goes first before I write arch as the worst storyteller ever.

If it goes back to the castle with various tidbits about how Monique is feeding starving africans and inventing the steam engine while wearing tight blue spandex, then I'll quit.
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>>29718592
You forgot
TAKING 10 TO 15 MINUTES TO WRITE A COUPLE SENTENCES RIDDLED WITH ELLIPSES
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arhcelon can i suck youre dick
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someone draw something to defuse the thread, quick
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>>29718582
It's more like Arch nailing it down because people were so obsessed with fucking winning.
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>>29718101
And a third time pointing this out.
Please be cautious about responding to retarded people.
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>>29718593
It'll probably get a bit better after a few threads.
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>>29718593
PGQ's fanbase was always cancerous. It being hostile is new.
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>>29718593
I feels you man. I just wanted to relax.
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>>29718610
You're right!

>TAKING 20/30 MINUTES TO WRITE FANFIC TIER SHIT
>CONSTANT OVERUSE OF ELLIPSES AND OTHER GRAMMATICAL ERRORS
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>>29718630
I know Shadow Quest got a lot better after we got of Namek. Hopefully once we return to Granache shit will calm down.
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>>29718593
I feel you, man.
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>>29718605
Good, please leave.

Monique is not a mary sue and was never slated as one.
He got lucky, and he has some skill.

That's it.
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>>29718582
His great-grandfather made the damn rules. I am pretty sure when he went into that duel he was fucking sure that anything he did was ok or ok enough.
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>>29718644
Probably not. Unless QTG takes an interest in another quest.
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>>29718593
At least you didn't see it change as the quest became more popular.
hell the fucker players attitude at the begging towards now is worlds different.
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>>29718622
here is reinhold with best grill
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>>29718593
I know that feel all too well, friend.
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>>29718623
Victory is the absolute virtue. If we didn't win the tournament, Rein would not be a bodyguard.

If he didn't seek power by training his swordmanship, he be a fucking trap prostitute.

To those who don't win, they suffer and they die.

Winners are the ones who get the most out of life.
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>>29718638
That's because a bunch of antiquest retards started piling in trying to get this to stop running.
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>>29718593
know how you feel dood
It makes me feel sorry for Ach that has to put up with this more than we do
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>>29718676
Chin's too small.
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>>29718666
he was at least confident he could convince people he was right
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>>29718672
I DID though. I joined in thread #2.
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>>29718681
And we had our victory in knowing that we can handily beat monique, new skills or not.

But spasming over the material outcome is petty and what losers do.
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>>29718676
YAY! Now everyone can be friends again!
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>HAHA SO GUYS IT TURNS OUT THAT SWORD THAT'S DANGEROUS? YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY TAKE IT AWAY
>HAHA LET ME RETCON THE RULES SO ALL THE RULE BREAKING STUFF HE DID WAS ACTUALLY LEGAL

A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TIER WRITING

WOULD FUND A VN TEN TIMES OVER.
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>>29718560
fucker, stop stealing my name and causeing shit to happen.
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>>29718593
It seems like Shadow Quest's Toxicity moved here because it was really fucking clean last I saw of it.
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>>29718644
Shadow Quest got better after Xile because the playerbase collectively realized how shitty they were being and the whole thing ended on a high note with magical shadow-wind hybrid airships.

I have my doubts about that claim.
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>>29718666
This, he might have lawyered a bit, but i doubt he would risked being DQ.
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>>29718652
You forgot to put in "Magic Sword of Bullshit"
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>>29718676
best gril a shit
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>>29718676
Best grill is fucking shit, I've edited your fan-art to make it much more accurate.
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>>29718676
best girl a shit
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>>29718676
Sylvia a shit.
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QUESTION TO CLAY SCULPTER ANON IF HE'S HERE

HOW MUCH WILL MEGACHIN MARIANNA COST?

I'M PREPARED TO PAY A LOT.
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Is PGQ the Evangelion of VNs?
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>>29718723
No YOUR stealing MY name
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So at this point it's pretty obvious there is like 1 or 2 guys who have shown up and are just trolling us all. Let us not rise to further bait and get back to enjoying post surgery recovery/character catch ups.

I imagine our lumps are around the corner.
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>>29718644
Didn't it get a lot better because people actually understood why they fucked up and did their best to not do it again?
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>>29718720
Dude you're just mad because people pointed out your a retard.

Nobody likes you.
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>>29718743
>>29718751
>>29718752

goddamit pgq

within seconds
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>>29718763
hmm hhmm yes

epic truely epic speech my friend

let us not troll or be trolled
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>>29718739
That was where the luck comes in.

Sometimes anon, people get lucky.
Sometimes, they get very lucky.
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>>29718759
Not deep enough.
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Come on guys, we're probably irritating arch.
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>>29718763
>>29718766
i agree good anons. i await archelon's next post
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>>29718766
actually no.

If Monique said that magic is allow if only offensive.

but he cheated and the sword was keeping him going, thus support/healing magic.

and that shit was illegal.
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>>29718799
>irritating

he hasn't posted in like 15 minutes and he was already in a bad mood

he's probably long gone by now

i think the best thing to do at this point is just everyone stop posting
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>>29718809
it was deemed legal by the referee, but considered unfair.
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>>29718795
There's luck, and there's stacking the deck.
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[12:42:41]<archelon>: My players are so stupid.
[12:43:07]<archelon>: They've done stupid things, and there have been consequences.
[12:43:56]<archelon>: And there will continue to be.
[12:44:32]<archelon>: I don't get why they don't understand that.
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Hey Arch, what the hell would Monique have done with Setsuranka if our choices had lead us to being on better terms with him?

>>29718823
>15 minutes

That's not that much for a Quest Thread.
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>>29718860
Real convincing there, hombre. Screencaps or gtfo.
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>>29718860
Is there a word for sad, mad and disappointed at once?
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>>29718860
He was a NEET once. Surely he understands the kind of people that wind up on 4chan?
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>>29718872
>Hey Arch, what the hell would Monique have done with Setsuranka if our choices had lead us to being on better terms with him?
Don't expect an answer for this because it would require him to think outside the rails he laid.
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ugh seriously what's wrong with you guys tonight? are you all having your periods or something?
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>>29718885
It's called a "Father".
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>>29718860

I understand consequences. I await them and want to see where they take the story next.

I'm just confused what the earlier arguing was even about or how it spiraled into madness or how there were seemingly three distinct fluff providers.

...I don't know what's going on.

I just want to finish Agne's lecture and then see what happens next/what choice we will make next.
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>>29718842
>>29718739
>>29718605
Let arch tell his story. He doesn't owe you anything, neither do the rest of the readers.
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>>29718480

It looks like Agnes is rather shaken up over remembering what happened to Volker, but then she takes a deep breath and continues speaking.

"The last major thing about the Sealed Kings is that their curse is apparently -not- permanent," Agnes says.
"Wait-" you stammer. "Seriously!? What, they get turned back if their sword form breaks?"
"No, they -die- if their sword form breaks," she shakes her head. "From what I understand, the way the curse works is that all of the Sealed Kings could only use the most basic of their abilities when they were sealed. And as they absorb the excess magical energy given off by their owners, they slowly regain those abilities."

"...so it's kind of like how my bracelet eats some of my on magical energy just from me wearing it?" you say as you look down at your wrist.
"That's how Mr. Niklaus explained it to me when he was telling me how the crystals function," Sylvie replies.

>[4/?]
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jesus where's the janitors when you need them
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>>29718912
It's /qtg/.
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>>29718912
i'm having fun
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>>29718912
Just another installment of PGQ
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>>29718926

HAHA~

This bodes well for the crystal.
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>>29718936
at the expense of everyone else
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>>29718837
So the ref gets to decide what legel or not legel, not the rule book that Monique used to be able to use the sealed sword?

If so, I call fucking briding for the judge to let that happpened.
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>>29718872
>Hey Arch, what the hell would Monique have done with Setsuranka if our choices had lead us to being on better terms with him?
What do you mean by that?
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>>29718926
>so it's kind of like how my bracelet

Arch you magnificent bastard

You like stoking the fire, don't you?
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>>29718922
>IT'S FREE YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN

are you mentally handicapped

i can't even imagine what cocktail of mental illnesses would make you say this
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>>29718926
...so at some point in the future, they're going to start absorbing enough energy from their wielders to COME BACK?

Jesus christ, THAT'S going to be a shitstorm.
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I think the problem here is that Arch has this worked out already but the fact that he does have this worked out comes off as railroading and he takes so long with his writing and pacing that we aren't seeing any silver lining and just seeing us losing to the god hax sword of ultimate power.
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>>29718926
>"No, they -die- if their sword form breaks," she shakes her head. "From what I understand, the way the curse works is that all of the Sealed Kings could only use the most basic of their abilities when they were sealed. And as they absorb the excess magical energy given off by their owners, they slowly regain those abilities."

>"...so it's kind of like how my bracelet eats some of my on magical energy just from me wearing it?" you say as you look down at your wrist.

Tina confirmed for potentially ascended crystal spirit if we pour excessive amounts of our own magical energy into her!
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>>29718951
>The ref gets to decide what is or is not legal
>Sometimes rule books aren't balanced.
It's like I'm actually playing sports.
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>>29718860
arch please don't leave us, i love your writing, but maybe taking a few days off after this and letting people cool down some would be a good idea

>>29718916
i know i shouldn't laugh at this but i can't help but to do so
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>>29718916
N-not all fathers feel that way!
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>>29718860

One thing I don't get. How were we supposed to know that our sword would break if we kept fighting?
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>Cosgrove offers a decent, well thought out post (that is probably more words than the average PGQ thread lol)
>Archelon brushes it off and plugs his ears.

top fuckin lel

gg no re
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>>29718953
I think he means that monique played it off like he planned this whole thing to break our sword with the ice thing. You said if we hadn't punched him he would've been mostly ok with us, so what would he have done with a sealed king if we were on good terms with him?
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>>29718916
A shitty father, maybe.
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>>29718975
Taking time off isn't going to do anything, the people who keep shitting up these threads are pretty fucking determined.
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>>29718951
As an avid /sp/ enthusiast, I can guarantee you that public sporting events have botched calls and games all the time.

Even at the most professional level.
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>>29719000
Or a father of a shitty son.
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>>29718951
iirc posession mode was deemed legal, and this was likely some extension of that. against the spirit of the rules but not technically illegal

>>29718970
bracelet sentience has already been hinted at, and i think it may be jealous of mari
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>>29718993
Where was this?
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>>29718926
>their curse is apparently -not- permanent

Jesuschristhowhorrifying.jpg.png.gif.exe

On the bright side, at least we now have a perfectly valid reason for fiddling with Tina constantly.
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>>29719033
If you were a good father, you wouldn't have a shitty son. Nice try.
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>>29718993
link plz?
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Hey, Arch? I'm not sure how many other people would enjoy it, but what are the chances of having a straight up Q&A thread one day? Just a thread to explore the setting, and get information about some of those nagging questions people might have.
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We should definitely get a sword made out of the living crystal in the far-far-future.

Not out of powergaming or anything like that, but because having a living crystal sword is cool.
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>>29718926
TINAAAAAAAA MAI WAIFU!
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>>29719046
Why would you respond to that
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>>29719046
Supposedly in the Quest IRC. Nobody posted screenies though so I call bullshit.
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[12:55:47]<archelon>: I'm bored now.
[12:56:02]<archelon>: I'm going to finish.
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>>29718957
>I willingly misinterpret what others say
He means that this is something he does for the people who like his writing, and if you are not a fan there is nothing making you stay here. This isn't a product you are forced to use and there is a wide variety of other quests for you to choose from out there which are also free.
If those don't satisfy you, then you are free to create your own and compete in the open market of writing that is the /tg/ quest thread.
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>>29719044
I think right now the bracelet's primarily reactive.. it's learning by feeding off of our emotions as well as our energies. The more we give it, the more it has to work with to develop a personality.
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>>29719061
http://pastebin.com/kHuk5TZy
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>>29719076
I can confirm that he did not say this.
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>>29719076
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>>29718582
DMPC
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>>29719061
>>29719046
http://pastebin.com/kHuk5TZy
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>>29718990
we went over the limit, i think. it was more about knowing when to stop before we get destroyed than thinking about the well-being of our blade.
but ah, who wouldn't have done it on the heat of the moment?

>>29718997
well, without us he wouldn't have left on his journey to find and train with the sword, i guess
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>>29719070
Would you believe me if I said I was curious.
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>>29719060
Good point. Add "guilt" to the mix.
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>>29719093
>>29719099

Archelon's Response?
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>archelon on irc freaking out about thread quality

i wonder why

i
fuckin
wonder
why
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>>29719093
thanks
and that really is a beautifully done piece of criticism
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>>29719154
Probably people who don't punctuate or use capitalization.
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>>29719065
>I'm not sure how many other people would enjoy it
dear god i would
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>>29719150
see >>29718860

as an anon said, "n-no guys it's n-not my fault.."
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>>29719107
>well, without us he wouldn't have left on his journey to find and train with the sword, i guess
No he already had the sword by the time we punched him, and by then he forgave us for the sword.
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>>29719176
Well then maybe Arch should improve on his writing ability if he's so upset about it.
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>>29719154
But anon, he isn't freaking out. Some of us actually can see the IRC.

>>29719179
Just an FYI, that one is also misinformation.
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>Archelon is talking about how he was molested as a kid in the IRC
What the fuck
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I implore ALL of you dumbshits to learn IRC so you can all sit in the channel and see when he's shittalking you all.
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>>29719098
Honestly, I'll be alright with the duel if I just get to see Monique deal with some pretty bad consequences, like depression from realizing that he had broken the rules, a constant sense of shame from realizing that he ruined his self image of being an honorable man, stuff like that
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>>29718926


"So as time goes on and they absorb energy from their holders, their power slowly grows... and it's said that once their total energy absorbed matches what they had back when they were first sealed, a final ability will unlock that will restore them to their true forms," Agnes says.
"Has that ever even happened before?" you ask.
"No," she shakes her head. "It's been nearly a millennium since their sealing, but none of the Sealed Kings have regained their physical bodies. But they tend to choose masters that match their own elemental type, as the energy absorption works best in cases like that."

"It also works the other way around," Sylvie says. "If someone with a water affinity got their hands on a Fire-element Sealed King, the total amount of energy that they're able to absorb from them is decreased by a lot."
"Anrasorana was the strongest spirit of Fire, so I'm sure that the energy that he'll need to reclaim is the most," Agnes says, "but his sole wielder up until very recently was a man who had contracted with him previously and proceeded to take over his swordsmanship school in his place... thanks to this and the fact that he hasn't had to change hands more than once since his sealing, I'd bet that he'd be the first to regain his body."

>[5/6]
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>>29719179
Why are you so determined on shitting the thread up with this drama?

I'd just like to move on and not bitch about every single inconvenience that happens.
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>>29719154
don't freak out arch, your stuff is great. if i didn't think so i wouldn't put up with all this in thread fighting, i'd just read the pdf you link to in the pastebin
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>>29719241
NO THE ONLY CONSEQUENCES WILL APPLY TO PLAYERS

BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY ONES TO MAKE MISTAKES
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>>29719250
Arch why don't you learn to indent your paragraphs? You're not in high-school anymore.

Or maybe you are.
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>>29719271
FINALLY
Was that so hard, people? PROOF.
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>>29718997
Ah.
He'd have still kept it a secret like he did, and then showed off at a thematically appropriate moment (in his eyes) to brag and brag and brag.
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Archelon you better watch the fuck out because I'm going to get your IP from IRC thanks to a ircop friend.
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>>29719276
You can't indent on 4chan, nigger. Or at least, there is no reason to.
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>>29719250
>Strongest Fire Spirit
>become sealed sword
>have a school of swordsmanship
>have user take over said school
>Pass down from student to student until ressurection

Honestly, that fire spirit is smart...except for the swordsmanship thing. Likely just a fucking hobby that managed to save his ass due to the sealed sword business.
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>>29719241
i'd like to see this. sure he may have officially won and sure the general populace may love him, but he knows full well he would not have gotten back up if setsuranka didn't save him, and knowing that even with a sealed king he had to resort to (to him) dishonorable methods, may very well hurt his ego in some way
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>>29719309
That is EXACTLY what happened.
Anrasorana liked not-Japan so much that he opened his own dojo and then got turned into a katana for his troubles.
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>>29719250

Man, we're gonna need a type chart for this.
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>>29719333

Spiffy.
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>>29719333
Is there anything in particular that determined what kind of sword each of the Sealed Kings is?
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>>29719333
I can imagine worse fates.
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>>29719309
>except for the swordsmanship thing. Likely just a fucking hobby
iirc the entire reason possession mode is legal in duels is so that he can have fun fighting
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>>29719335
>http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Type_chart
Here you go
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>>29719333
I know this is only going to incite crazyness, but is there even a sealed king for metal?
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>>29719358
Are they all swords?
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>>29719385
no.
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>>29719385
NO becuase that would be POWERGAMING
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>>29719385
Ozzy Osbourne
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>>29719385
there was a spirit of metal in the shape of a dragon that stayed free since he always flew around and was hard to track

>>29719387
curse was specifically designed to turn them into swords so i'd guess yes
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>>29719241
I'm that anon, and I agree with you. If he has to deal with real consequences then at least something was accomplished in this whole fiasco.

I'll still be butthurt because I believe that archelon wasted two threads patronizing his players by calling for a series of decisions and rolls that didn't affect anything when he could have just presented the duel to us in a 3rd person POV narrative. But at least there will be some glimmer of hope for the writing.
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>>29719333
Why were these elementals sealed again? Cause it seems like a real dick move.
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>>29719385
Sealed Kings not allowed, Anon. Or fun. Or Powergaming. Or trying to branch out in any way, shape or form.
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>>29719250
>[6/6]

"Huh, I didn't know any of that," you say. "Thanks for the explanation."
"Don't worry, it was fun for me to actually get a chance to talk about all of that stuff," Agnes replies, smiling. "Sorry if I bored the rest of you with my rambling, though..."

"I thought it was really interesting!" Citrine says. "Now I'm wondering which one Volker and Adrien were going for..."
"And I think I have a bit of inspiration for my next painting now," Marius nods.
"I'm always been interested in the Old Kings, so don't mind me!" Sylvie says, shaking her head.


>any more questions regarding that?
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>>29719440
Dude was batshit crazy, I think.
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>>29719440
douchebag sorcerer with a powerboner
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Remember, Magic is the only way to survive against the upcoming foes.

If there any upcoming foes at all.
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>>29719429
I'm pretty sure we were 2 away on a crit from winning.
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>>29719462
Is it possible to fuck a sealed king?
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>>29719462
Nah. Let's ask about Marie.
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I missed the last few threads and just got done reading them, Sealed Kings are some bullshit they are basically an auto-win in duels for anyone who possesses one, the only people who could face them on even somewhat even terms are other people with other Sealed Kings.
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>>29719462
"talking about swords and volker, do you know where i could get a new unbreak... well, nearly unbreakable blade?"
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>>29719440
im going to guess wizards, as they have no concept of right and wrong. I mean just look at Niklaus
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>>29719462
Nah
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>>29719492
This.
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>>29719462

Ask where your old sword went.

Then ask where to get a new sword.
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>>29719462
"All this talk about swords and Sealed Kings has got me wondering, where's mine?"
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>>29719429
even if we weren't able to win (which i don't think is true), we still affected the outcome. we could have bowed out at any number of points, one of the votes being literally a one vote difference

>>29719440
>Cause it seems like a real dick move.
it kind of was, the guy that did it was a dick ass wizard
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>>29719518
>>29719516
This
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>>29719492
I would imagine it's possible in the same way it's possible to fuck a regular sword.
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>>29719499
Actually Reinhold was on the verge of wining, you have to remember that Moniques sword held him up long enough for him to leave the arena with pride.
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>>29719492
Voting
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>>29719462
does the sealed king take on many forms? or are they all just swords?
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>>29719494
This.
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>>29719503
>>29719516
These
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>>29719462
Nah we should probably go and see everyone else.
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>>29719492
seconding
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>>29719462
First, ask if anyone knows how Marie is doing. Because we haven't heard anything on her for a while.

Then, ask about our sword. If anyone picked up the pieces for us, how Volker got it in the first place, if it could be reforged, make a joke about trying out using two swords and then seriously consider the idea.
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>>29719462
Do you know anything about the metal sealed king ?
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>>29719499

we have been there done that man, please don't go dragging up an old corpse
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>>29719467
>>29719473
You'd think that the elementals would just kill the fucker after the first 10 or so were sealed because holy fuck, why would they let this continue?
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>>29719518
>>29719516
But we saw it get fucking shattered, unless you're referring to the hilt and/or pieces of the blade?
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>>29719462

>So...all this talk of legendary swords has reminded me that I think I may need a new one...though I don't think I need something like that.
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>>29719462

"What do you think we should do with the sword? Can it be repairrd?"

Family is all here.
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>>29719494

This, at last.
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>>29719518
we didn't suffer from memory loss, we already know what happened to it.
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>>29719462
Can a Sealed King absorb energy from other elementals, or just human-like wielders? Or are humans just better energy conduits regardless than elementals even if the total energy potential is lower?

I'd also be interested in more info on the crazy dude who did the sealing, but judging by why she knows this, I dunno that she'll have a really good summary.
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>>29719494
This here. Come on its our job guys.

>>29719492
No, fuck you.
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>>29719492
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>>29719558
There is no metal sealed king.

Also, this bears repeating, no sealed kings for Reinheld ever.
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>>29719516
Fourth'd. Maybe two.
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Oh boy
Time for PTSD
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>>29719546
This.
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>>29719358
Personality and the way they used their abilities, mostly. Anrasorana got turned into a katana because that's what he used, Setsuranka's blade is deep blue because that's her favorite color (and what she was named for), etc.

>>29719385
There are multiples for all elements.

>>29719440
Long story short:
Crazy man likes swords. He REALLY likes swords.
So he goes about figuring out how to make the absolute best swords ever, and his waifu volunteered to be the test subject.
It was a success, so he went about roaming the continent in order to keep on making awesome swords.
Because he was crazy.
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>>29719462
so bonding with a sealed king doesn't change your element, but still lets you use their element without invocation? did i get that right arch

also, ask about if anyone knows where mari is, she hasn't even been mentioned
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>>29719271

Fuck, they're talking about my dice program! Tell them that they should change the DC in the "output [whatever it was]" to see different curves for different DCs. It doesn't show "fail" or "pass" but just how likely you're to get certain values. But you can tell how likely you're to pass by looking at the At Least tab and checking out the likelyhood or rolling DC or higher. If you want to know crit chances, look at the Normal tab: 1's probability is crit fail probability, 21's probability is crit success probability, 20's probability is getting a normal success 20.
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>>29719562
Political gain and thinking they were too powerful for the puny mortal.or he was that good
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>>29719492

mentally maybe, or telepathically in your dreams. I hope this remains officially unansw-

why the hell is this getting votes? This is not something you ask your grandmother!
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>>29719564
>>29719571
We so far haven't adressed that yet.

more suffering!
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>>29719592
S-Shirou?
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>>29719494
This
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>>29719462
can we ask about volkers' sword? where is it? did they collect the shards? can it be reforged?
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>>29719492
Please
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>>29719505
well shit
>>29719592
>crazy man roams continent making swords out of elementals
I totally called it, though it was a tad obvious.
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>>29719609
fuck off with your suffering.
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>>29719592
I want to find this man and shake his hand.
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>>29719494
This
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archelon I think you should take a break

everything's......slipping.
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>>29719492
Please don't ask gram gram this

We have to take this query to Monique
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>>29719655
What if Reinhold is his reincarnation
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>>29719587
>implying we need a magic stick to kick more ass.
we just need more training, that's about it, sword of fuck you +50 are for weaklings with no talents on their own

>>29719592
with great powers comes great... LOL NO, wizards!
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>>29719653
You have no appreciation for drama, anon.
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>>29719596
Don't you need to separate the normal 1's from the crit-fail 1's?
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>>29719660
No fuck that. He shouldn't have made the thread if he wanted a break
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>>29719651
It was also already explained.
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>>29719462
>"Now I'm wondering which one Volker and Adrien were going for..."
Metal dragon the only one to escape the sealing.
Metal being a rare element
>We're not getting a sealed king in our element are we
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>>29719492
Yes, this
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>>29719592
>and his waifu volunteered to be the test subject.
>It was a success
Not very impressive turning a sword into a sword.
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>>29719619
no, shirou's girl started as a sword, wizard made his girl into sword

>>29719651
>I totally called it
it's been explained already, by arnaud iirc, a long ass time ago
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>>29719564

I'm referring to the hilt, yes.
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>>29719492
Say this

maybe we have grown some testicles
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>>29719494
I agree.
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>writing
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>>29719521
This was the reveal of the Sealed Kings, the nuclear option in this setting. Nothing would have allowed us to win and interfere with this. We're basically nobody. Everyone in the castle is more more skilled or wields more personal power. For the concept of the Sealed Kings as the ultimate magical weapons in the setting to remain valid, we had to lose. So we did.

If that's what has to be, then the QM should just quit pretending that we have agency and writefag it.
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>>29719660
The quest has gotten more popular and there are more trolls. This is 4chan. /b/ is mainstream and popular as shit that's why it's shit. Don't feed the trolls. Seriously its simple.
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>>29719492
This is a stupid question to ask.

Don't.
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>>29719592
> We are metal
> metal is a subset of earth
> earth is associated with bulk And strength

> We use a broadsword
> Broadswords are mostly strength (behind claymore)

Metal sealed king would likely be or homeboy if we got it
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Rather than using a fancy sword wouldn't it be better to beat people with normal weapons?
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>>29719677

In this system, you can't have normal 1s, because if your highest roll is 1 (that, is you roll 1, 1, 1) then you also critfail.
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>>29719592
>There are multiples for all elements.
S...so you're saying there's a chance!
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>>29719732
IT'S TOO LATE
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>>29719596
I think I covered most of that later on in that conversation, but the "at least" tab thing was probably a good thing to mention.
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>>29719751
No.
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>>29719729
Ids not just the trolls

the writing is.....like drinking out of date milk this week
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>>29719751
Just as good of a chance as Luciana has of getting Rein

In other words, none
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>>29719751
There isn't a chance. We aren't getting a Sealed King, it isn't happening.
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>>29719743
can't
'powergaming'
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>>29719763
>the writing is.....like drinking out of date milk this week

The writing is what the fuck are you talking. You're drunk anon, you're not up to literary criticism at this moment.
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>>29719751
FAT FUCKIN LOL

no powergsming for you.
One spell a night and that is it.
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>>29719763
No, it's not.
If you're serious, feel free to believe that.

If you're stirring up shit, I hope you feel happy.
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>>29719592
What happens if the master of a Sealed King becomes an elemental themself?
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>>29719751
People much more capable than Reinhold searched and didn't find one.
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I'd really like someone to cite it where archelon says we're never ever getting a Sealed King.
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>>29719804
Like Monique?
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>>29719578
>Can a Sealed King absorb energy from other elementals, or just human-like wielders? Or are humans just better energy conduits regardless than elementals even if the total energy potential is lower?
It is possible for a Sealed King to choose another elemental spirit as its master.
But it's pretty much cannibalism at that point, so it's never been done.

>>29719593
>so bonding with a sealed king doesn't change your element, but still lets you use their element without invocation? did i get that right arch
Yes.
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>>29719794
No.

The sealed sword drains the user.

Thus the master can't become a elemental.

>>29719804
Monique manage though. Thanks to the powers of the will of the planet or Archeon
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>>29719826
It was a fluke
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>>29719794
I'd imagine that this would be unlikely to happen; things undergo a soul ascension due to a buildup of magical pressure over time, and we just learned that Sealed Kings siphon off energy from their wielders in order to increase their abilities back to full-strength.

Assuming these come from the same pool of magical energy, I can't imagine you could have a great enough increase in power while also charging up your Sealed King to do so.
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>>29719829
>>29719807
Arch can you confirm this?
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>>29719834
Anon, it was a fluke that you found a nuke under your bed.
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>>29719829
>But it's pretty much cannibalism at that point, so it's never been done.

Wait so

they're EATING people.

First monique

and then they're gonna eat me
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>>29719826
Like the guy back at the home castle who can beat pretty much everyone in the story so far.
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>>29719826
I say we kill monique and give the sword to Arnaud
he wasn't involved, he becomes the master
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I personally don't want a sealed king.
Relying on somebody else's power is a pretty pussy way to do it.
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>>29719844
>Tina is preventing Reinhold from ascending.
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>>29719858
Nah, we go to prison for killing such a "hero"

also, the gm will just say no. Just like never ever getting a sealed sword or getting powerful.
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>>29719865
It's ok, because if that's true, that means we're ascending THE BRACELET instead.
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>>29719848
If we found the sword nobody'd be fucking complaining, I guarantee that

Whyis it so hard to believe that miraculous things happen?
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>>29719335

1000 years of MS Paint.

Not sure what is missing from this, but it isn't really aesthetically pleasing either.

I added the ??? there because the empty space would kill me.
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>>29719834
Your joking me m8

I didnt get what people meant by "monique is thd mc" at first but now I fuckin do lol

honestly at this point id rather play as him because it is that much more interesting
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>>29719864
but basically the only way to do it
we clearly advanced massively beyond Monique in terms of sword skill, but being possessed by the sword caused him to destroy us while having a hunk torn out of his thigh and a missing ribcage
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>>29719886
Nice.
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>>29719886

durrhurr

There is no actual ???, I just added there because I needed to fill in the space.
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>>29719865
Unless all the magic poured on her somehow was returned to Reinhold.
That ought to pop his soul.
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>>29719853
no, they eat magic, but elementals are made of magic
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>>29719885
>If we found the sword nobody'd be fucking complaining, I guarantee that

Yeah we would, suddenly one day we find a fucking sealed king just sticking out of the ground?

People would be crying foul all over.
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>>29719853
Elemental spirits are made of magical energy.
Sealed Kings absorb magical energy.
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I spotted a bug in the anydice script for the new dice system, should have use >= instead of >

http://anydice.com/program/328d
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>>29719864
that right
a power that is not our own is not worth using
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>>29719911
Arnaud is lightning.

Gerhard is Darkness.

Nico is still technically unknown.
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>>29719901
We got possession form into yellow health with a regular sword, given some combat casting training, a few spells and an enchanted blade I think we could manage it.
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>>29719912
Thats powergaming so hurrrr never happen.

> yfw this quest was meant to be about a boring guard
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>>29719911
Isn't the librarian guy from Granache whose name I've forgotten because he hasn't appeared in ages also Darkness?
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>>29719911
Shadow is Gerhard not Arnaud.

Karel is Water.
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>>29719917
>People would be crying foul all over.

LOL+++ would laugh again.
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>>29719864
Why? It's a tool. A sword is a tool as well.
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Guys, stop whining. Sure, Reinhold losing the duel is sad. But Monique using the Sealed King was basically bringing a gun to a fist fight. Without the Sealed King, Reinhold would have wrecked Monique, but this "cheat" allowed Monique to win. But only barely, because in skill Reinhold beats Monique.

So:
Reinhold >>> Monique
Reinhold < Sealed King

I'm sure that there will be repercussions for Monique (either external or internal by his own concience/honor) for what he did, why don't we just wait what happens?
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>>29719901
Instead of drawing a power of an elemental spirit, I'd rather become one.
or become a dragon
or some crystal-infested half-elemental abomination
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>>29719592
>There are multiples for all elements.
1) Earth
2) Air
3) Fire
4) Water
5) Light
6) Dark
7) Lightning
8) Ice
9) Metal

Does this mean that there are 18 sealed kings or do the last three not count as there own element? How many are accounted for?
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>>29719911
what are red lines for?

also, metal should connect to earth and ice to water in some way to show that they're subsets, don't just stick them close together

also, karel is water i think, flamberge is just a fire sword
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>>29719944

You got it now. Go back to your epic-level campaign if you want to take over the universe.
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>>29719944
Would you shut the fuck up about this already?

You've been literally saying the same shit over and over and over
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>>29719911
This is probably off, given that Monique insinuated to the Devil Child assassin he fought that Ice was one of the worst-case combat scenarios for someone with the Water element.

Unless he was just saying that because of the Sealed King, but whatever.
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>>29719959
the problem is that in our line of work 'cheaters' are the people we will have to fight. If we can't fight a shit-tier one, what are we going to do against competent fighters with magic bullshit?
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>>29719959
dude, that was no fucking gun.

That was a magical nuke. It like bringing a nuke to a duel of swordsmanship.

It pure bullshit.
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>>29719911
the ??? element is nicklaus's personnal element.
he called it bacon
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I just hope that Reinhold acknowledges the fact that he lost to the sword, not to Monique.
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>>29719944
You're just kinda pathetic at this point.
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>>29719964
There is 20-something I believe.
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>>29719964
there are 26 plus one that was broken
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>>29719959
lets hope so
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>>29719973
> I can only think in extremes

PGQ players, everybody.
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>>29719985
That shit-tier one had a magical nuke.

Still, he was shit-tier compare to the world when it comes to skill for the sword or magic.
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>>29719964
iirc when monique did his big reveal setsuranka was named as 27th sealed king, and i don't think those numbers take mage's waifu into account, since i think she was water and arch has confirmed that the first sealed king was light
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>>29719865
Magic is like a muscle. Our bracelet or a sword for that matter stealing our magic would be no different than us casting a spell. If anything it's making us stronger since it's giving us a spirit workout.
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>>29719958
Because you're essentially letting an elemental spirit to do your fighting for you.

It's no difference to contracting a demon to kill your enemies.
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fucking get murdered arc
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Fuck magic, we need to go full Darth Maul physical victory only wins

We will win through pure physical discipline
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>>29719993
>>29719972
>>29719949
>>29719945

Fixed. Anything else?
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>>29720044
Which is also a tool
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>>29720069
and die to basic magic
we're a fighter in 3.5
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>>29720079
That's why we bring sylvie along to dispell magic
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>>29719985
Yes. But 1) Reinhold is a young boy not yet at the peak of his skills, especially with magic, and 2) there will not be many people trying to kill the princess who also have a Sealed King.
This quest does not tell the story of an invincible superman. Like any hero story, it starts with somebody weak but skilled/gifted and follows his/her hard journey towards victory/level-up/... It's a very basic concept of narrative. Or how interesting do you think Harry Potter/Star Wars would have been if the first movie started with Harry/Luke at full skill/power?
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>>29719959
>Implying Monique has honor
>Implying Monique isn't conceited enough to believe that he deserved to win
>Implying Monique doesn't believe he's the better swordsman

Let's face it, Monique will just rationalize it afterwards and sees there being no difference between his own power and the power he is borrowing and will only regret his attitude after he loses his sword.
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>>29720072
Karel is water
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>>29720072
There needs to be a line to indicate an element beating another one outright instead of just being opposites, like Ice wrecking Water.
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>>29720073
But it is not your own strenght and proves nothing of your martial prowess.
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GUYS, LISTEN

SERIOUSLY

About the Sealed King....

This wasn't to punish you. It was a bullshit move by Monique, the character. It was not the QM trying to fuck with you. This was Monique, who was majorly pissed at us, who knew a loophole because of his background and then exploited it. This wasn't railroading. This was just Monique being a dirty fighter. I really cannot see how you can hold this against archelon.

You guys really need to separate Archelon, the QM from what the characters do. Archelon isn't Monique. And you should separate your OOC feelings from IC ones. You can feel pissed off as fuck IC, but getting mad OOC because we lost is silly. Anyone who has played campaigns with IC drama and the real possibility of failing (especially against overwhelming odds) shouldn't get upset.
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>>29719959
>monique
>conscience

Yeah, right. If he felt what he was doing was wrong he wouldn't have done it in the first place.
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>>29720119
>inb4 MUH DMPC autists
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>>29720114
Except it does. Like a sword or magic, it all depends on how you use it and to what extent. It takes just as much "mental prowess" as anything else.
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>>29720092
he's going to get his shit wrecked by half the castle when we get back home, i bet
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>>29720072
add some line to show when an element is a subtype of another
luci's dad is light
elena's element is swordie
anransoranra is sealed king of fire
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>>29720119
That presumes everyone in here isn't a mouthbreathing neckbeard with dysfunctional-level autism.
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>>29720119
I think it's more just because Arch takes time to post.

We have a lot of people here, and given time to stew shit gets a little heated.
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>>29719959

The problem this comes down to is that there is literally NO downsides to having a sealed king. you're basically the invincible hero who wins because all the rules bend around him.

That is what happened here-

No magic duel?

Sealed King says forget about it.

Enemy's a better combatant?

Sealed King says forget about it because of previous rule.

You're badly hurt?

Sealed King says forget about it.

The fact is- you're above the law and protected by the world itself for having a sealed king.

This is what archelon has shown us- and he's done nothing but build this fact up. Nothing can match up to one.

I would have given less of a shit had this bee Celestino that pulled this bullshit, or the villain Count Asshole of the Kingdom of Evil.

But this was our asshole rival who is now better than us in every way, except that he wasn't.

Because of an unbeatable sword.

Why wouldn't we want to go on a quest to get one, considering Monique found one that easily and its impossible to rematch him without one?
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>>29720119
Because this was Monique, a character who is basically a joke character, obtaining one of the most rare and powerful magic fantasy items in the entire world. Completely out of the blue.
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All of this sword discussion has you thinking about your own-

Oh.

That's right.

Your heart sinks as you remember that your sword, the only possession that you actually valued, broke during your duel with Monique. It might have been because you slammed it into his back when it was covered in ice, it might have simply because the blade was frozen at all... that doesn't matter.

It was practically your partner for the past nine years, and the only tangible connection you had to Volker during that time.

And now it's gone.


>ask Agnes about your sword
>ask Sylvie about your sword
>ask Citrine about your sword
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>>29720090
All valid points. But what I was pointing out wasn't that we can't stand up to a Sealed King. It was that we don't have anything to counter someone even moderately skilled at magic. Which is liable to get Marianne killed if anybody actually tries to assassinate her. Using Star wars, it'd be like asking what happened if Han Solo had to fight the Emperor in order to try and protect Luke
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>>29720092
His honor is very important to Monique. He believes he is better than Reinhold and that he would have won without cheating, but now he has the feeling that the sword made it too easy and that it was not truely his victory. Yes, he probably will rationalize it (basic psychological defense mechanism), but it will gnaw a little bit.
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>>29720072
Setsuranka told Monique that Karel was water right after the duel.
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>>29720149
Which they are because we're in /tg/ and in PGQ.
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>>29720092
> loses sword
did you miss the bit where he can't.
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>>29720164
>Agnes

duh
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>>29720164

>ask Citrine about your sword
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>>29720164
>>ask Agnes about your sword

It's the only option.
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>>29720119
It's like when you play DnD and know how to roleplay.
Thank you for vocalizing this so well, anon.
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720164
>>ask Agnes about your sword
She'd know best what can and cannot be done here, as well as where to potentially get a replacement.
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>>29720164
Ask gram gram if it's possible to fuck a sealed king. Since you ignored it last time when it clearly won you fucking asshole.
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>>29720164

>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720072
King Celestino is light just like Luciana is.
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>>29720164
>ask Citrine about your sword
she knows us best
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>>29720164
>>ask Agnes about your sword
sylvie was taking care of us and citrine was passed out
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720164
awwww yisss

Time for rejoicing
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>>29720164
Agnes
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>>29720119
Yes, but the thing is that people still love him despite his villainous speech and the fact that he fought as dirty as possible.

It's like he brought a machinegun to a knifefight and when he was losing, he proceeded to use mustard gas and everybody loves him for it.
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>>29720136
>>29720149
>>29720192
>Yeah! Thanks person! You are so smart and well-read!

Thanks samefag!
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
Also decide with her on what to do with it, reforge it or bury it.
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>>29720000
Nah. Just stay classy. Someone had to lose ans someone had to win. No need to be bitter about it.
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
Grandma hugs are the best hugs.
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword

"Gran, do you know what happened to my sword... what's left of it?"
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>>29720164

>Ask Agnes about your sword.

And with that, this anon is done for the night, sleep beckons.

Good luck everyone.

Archelon, have a good rest of the night.
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>>29720164
Ask every/no one about our sword
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>>29720197
This
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword

Sword Grandma, give us your wisdom regarding this sword that we borked.
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword

Ask the general crowd of people around us if anyone gathered the pieces, then ask Agnes about how Volker got it, if it could be reforged.

Try to lighten the mood after this by joking about using multiple swords.
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720162
And? It was a surprise. The worst you can say to archelon is that he didn't foreshadow it well enough. You could say what Monique did on the rooftops (using magic that kicked an elementalborns' ass) was a bit of foreshadowing, at least.

Either way, that isn't something to have a huge shitfit over.
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>>29720119
Dude. Monique having a sealed king goes against everything we learned and heard of the setting.

GM told us consequentially we never going to get a sealed king ever.

And then Monique somehow manages to find the rarest, most powerful weapon on the entire fucking setting right after we beat him, broke his sword and punch him for being a dick.

We could have been struck by lightning twice and those be better odds than Monique getting a sealed king.
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>>29720164
>>ask Agnes about your sword
Volker got it as a present for his 20-somethingth birthday, and I can't imagine Agnes wouldn't have known at least a little about it.

>ask Sylvie about your sword
She was the one who helped drag us out there; if we want to keep part of it as a memento or take it to Volker's grave or something along those lines, we'd want to ask her if she knew where it went.
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>>29720119

Everybody listens to this guy.

>>29720162

Think of him as the asshole animu rival who always come back with retarded new overpowered tricks.
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720090

The issue here is one of perception. The way things played out, our skill with the sword appears worthless. This is the foundation of our character, how we got to this point. At almost every real fight in the story, magic has been the deciding factor. Reinhold can improve, of course, but being surrounded (and in some cases dominated by) these high-powered individuals makes it hard to see the silver lining. Like Cosgrove said, we don't see ourselves as a bodyguard, more like a pet/bought friend for the princess.
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>>29720218
Yeah samefag totally.
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>>29720164
Ask where are sword is, like we don't remember. Then watch the feels flow like a river.
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>>29720197
This.

fucking railroading cunt I'll bite your fucking face.
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>>29720244
>Think of him as the asshole animu rival who always come back with retarded new overpowered tricks.

Okay

I'm still going to call it bullshit writing, like it is
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>>29720213
>everybody loves him for it.
the crowd loves him for it, because they care more for a show and shit than anything else. important people want him dead.
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>>29720213
Separate yourself from Reinhold. Reinhold can be pissed about something that's happening in his world. Everyone sucking his dick over his "legit" win, and being pissed off as hell over it? Sure.
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>>29720160
we ALMOST beat him, remember?
oh, and our 'teacher' had a really flawed technique.
i'm sure we could kick his ass with enough training, between arnaud and grandma
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>>29720253
You know what we need, a pile of bandits to kill on our way home.

We'd all be feeling a lot better if we got to carve a bloody swath through some bad guys.
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>>29720197
Voting
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Christ, this is a shambles isn't it?
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>>29720242
Monique also has money and a job where he isn't responsible for one of the most important people in the country ~12 hours a day every day
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>>29720197
This is stupid. Drop it.
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>>29720271
The important people on our side want us dead. Celestino doesn't give a shit, and most of the crowd were nobles (read:important people)
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>>29720256
oh so you're just an idiot that thinks making stupid decisions = roleplaying

I'll keep that in mind
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>>29720181
Unless it gets released.
Once it's released, Monique is just a weak little boy.
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>>29720164
>ask Agnes about your sword
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>>29720218
>proving our point, all thread long
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>>29720197
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>>29720197
Fuck you just stop.
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>>29720291
weak little boy with a powerful elemental he can make a contract with
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>>29720119
>This wasn't to punish you. It was a bullshit move by Monique, the character

And pulling it out of no where was a bullshit move by Archelon, the writer.

Everything that happened afterwards was bullshit rationalization by Archelon, the writer

Surprise, he's responsible for the actions of his characters.
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>>29720256
Nice photshop you fucking gypsy.
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Ask Agnes if it's possible to fuck a sealed king
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>>29720296
Wrong picture.
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>>29720276

Except Sir Gregory would just open the carriage door and disintegrate them all with a snap of his fingers.
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>>29720313
Do this
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>>29720124
"I am Monique Gilbeault, a man of style and grace. ... I am the most accomplished of my father's children.

The only one of us to have truly inherited the skills of my great grandfather, the reknowned duelist Marquise Gilbeault, I have managed to achieve the rank of Captain of the Border Guard of my home country of Granache THROUGH NAUGHT SAVE MY OWN ABILITIES."
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>>29720290
no i believe separating PC from Player and DM from NPC are the signs of someone who can properly play Pen and Paper RPGs.
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>>29720308
See:
>>29720244
>>29720241
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>>29720289
>The important people on our side want us dead
who? even the nobles of marconetti don't want us dead, even if they are drooling over monique. meanwhile a member of royalty from monique's home nation had to be physically restrained from killing him
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>>29720313
>>29720197
These
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>>29720276
no. That'll just solidify our role as Worf. Killing mooks with no effort only to be curbstomped to prove how awesome something new is
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>>29720313
>>29720328
>>29720341

Fuck you, stop.
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>>29720319
>>29720256
Oh so you're just part of the archelon defense force

Everything about Monique getting a sealed king goes against what we know about the setting, so saying "dude, it's just monique being a dick" doesn't change the fact that "dick" is now among the most powerful character in the setting.

So screw you, screw your fallacies, and please take the time to understand why you are wrong
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>>29720348
stop responding to him, please.
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>>29720339
>>29720289
sorry should have read want *him dead. pardon my autism
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>>29720274
What I'm saying is that it's inconsistent or Marconetti is just a shithole country filled with assholes.
I mean, I get it that the nobility would be on his side, but the common folk not rooting for the underdog?
That's kinda weird.
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It's all because SOMEBODY had to brag about PGQ in the QTG, and now the other quest fans are raiding.
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>writing
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>>29720330
>not knowing that just shit to make himself feel better
>believing that he still thinks like that after the sealed king bullshit.

Anon. He a noble. he does shit to make himself feel important.
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>>29720348
We'd stop if Arch asked the question the first time.But seeing as how he wants to be railroading bitch. Just have to vote again.
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>>29720253
Then the obvious solution becomes getting better at magic since this is probably expected to be a job Rein'll hold for at least a decade he's got time to get better.
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>>29720348
Are you fuckin gay m8
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>>29720119
>hay guiz, that real person didn't do anything! the imaginary one did!
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>>29720330
he did get the job and nearly win a tourney before getting the sealed king. he's no slouch, it's just that he is a sword mage while rein is pure sword, and in a sword only tournament rein's going to win
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>>29720358
>Goes against what we know about the setting

No, it doesn't.
It's just unlikely.

But guess what, shit happens.
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>>29720337
>See: two fucking posts that acknowledge that it's hack writing and completely backstabs the setting as we know it

Nice work: Proving me write and all.

This just took a shit on the setting if sealed kings apparently grow on trees. If monique is an asshole rival that can just pull powerups out of his ass then I don't even know why we fucking bother.

We signed up for princess guard quest not DBZ quest and trying to change it now is disingenuous
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>>29720358
Okay, brah. You sure made me change my mind with those hot opinions of yours.
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>>29720358
>in the setting
Nah, he got his ass kicked by us. Had it been Greg or Thierri he'd have been royally fucked.

Also, it makes sense for him to find the sword, he went on a journey specifically to find some way to beat Rein and got lucky.
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>>29720358
>Everything about Monique getting a sealed king goes against what we know about the setting

Mind actually detailing in which way it does so? By which I mean cite exactly where the established facts of the setting are contradicted by this fact.
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>>29720358
>Oh so you're just part of the archelon defense force

How is this not fallacious in an argument?

>>29720365
Skewed perceptions? Maybe in Marconetti, they have Nasu-style perceptions of heroic. Where being heroic means being cheesily overpowered. You can hold that against people IC.
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>>29720358
>goes against the setting

Huh? No it doesn't. Do you even know what that phrase means?
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>>29720386
unlikely is Monique getting stronger than us when we were both doing similar training arcs
he found an ancient artifact that the greatest people of a hundred generations were looking for by climbing a mountain
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>>29720391
How does captain bumblefuck mcfaggotass find a fucking sealed king though? The kings couldn't find them.
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>>29720308
I'm sure you think that the ending of sixth sense was bad writing to. Arch knew from the minute he introduced Monique that he was packing a sealed king. It was part of the plan. Just because you didn't see it coming doesn't mean it's an ass pull.
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>>29720386
>It's just unlikely.

It's fucking plot bullshit, it's "a wizard did it" levels of plot convenience

He's a DMPC meant to forward the plot, nothing more. That's why he shows up out of no where with a sword of destruction. Because his role in the story right now is to move the plot along. And surprise, people don't like it one bit.

>>29720390
>This is shitty writing and an insult to the playerbase
>opinion

>>29720391
Our ruptured organs don't show it. He could have kept fighting forever if the sword let him
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I like how all of the people bitching have such terrible spelling.
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>>29720365
Going into the Tourney, Monique was the underdog, he'd lost the last fight against Rein and Rein was now a Royal bodyguard.
He's also a prettyboy and does a good job impressing the plebs.
During the fight he revealed himself to have one of the strongest swords in the world as well, and still made the fight an insane spectacle for the plebs, how could they not love him?
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>>29720389
>one person has a sealed king

>THEY GROW ON TREES

Blowing things out of proportion much?
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>>29720389
You're mad as hell over a quest, and the best thing you could do to respond was the classic greentext strawman. Go outside, take a relaxing walk.
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>>29720419
>Arch knew from the minute he introduced Monique that he was packing a sealed king. It was part of the plan. Just because you didn't see it coming doesn't mean it's an ass pull.

It IS an ass pull.

>duh, arch planned this ass pull from teh beginning so it's not an ass pull

It's still a fucking ass pull to just hand one of these characters the best sword ever made.

Archelon defense force, will you ever learn?
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>>29720409
>>29720420
Pretty much.
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Seriously Archelon. Just stop. For your own health.

You don't have to put up with this.
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>>29720430
because he made a faggy-ass speech about how he found said amazing sword to break our non-magic one and humiliate us?
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>>29720442
If there had been some kind of foreshadowing, it'd be forgivable. Something like, "Rumor has it Monique got something amazing!" instead of this thing from out of left god damn field.
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>>29720409
There are 28 of these, it's not the only fucking one.

>>29720420
Except for the whole foreshadowed training leave where he started hearing voices.

Maybe it wasn't the biggest sign, but he obviously stepped out of the way to get it, and it was noted long before the duel itself.

No, you don't like it.
You and a few other people have been shitting this thread up since the beginning, just let it go.
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>>29720419
Arch giving this guy a sword is still shit writing of the highest caliber if he hyped up these swords to be rarer than god.

Now he's being played off as a super-powerful PC with a psychic bond to his sword. Frankly it's shit.
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That's it, I'm done for the night. All the shitposting has completely drained any desire I had to keep on writing.
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>>29720420
Err, the description was pretty implicit that he was going to die at any moment if he kept going.

So...no? Maybe if you wiped the tears of infinite sadness from your eyes you'd be able to read?
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>>29720454

You mean like how he got amazing at Ice magic?
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>>29720445
Why are you assuming he doesn't enjoy this?

He runs a thread five or six or seven days a week, and if god let him I bet he'd run a thread on the eighth too.

He's a junkie, PGQ is his heroin. Daddy needs his medicine.
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Thanks, QTG!
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I'd truly be fine with losing the match if Monique hadn't been such a goddamn asshole about it.
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>>29720449
Playing to the crowd at the same time, what makes you think that a crowd would dislike that?
It's like you've never been to a sporting match in your life man.
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>>29720460
Oh COME ON.
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You all faggots post so much bullshit.
JUST FUCKING PLAY THE GAME AND STOP DISCUSSING THINGS ALL THE FUCKING TIME ENDLESSLY

>>29720460
See you man, don't lose hope
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>>29720460
Holy shit nigga. just close your eyes nigga like seriously
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>>29720460
i'm split between "rest well and come back stronger tomorrow" and "don't let these idiots win, report and ignore"
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>>29720460
I honestly can't blame you for that.

You've accumulated a giant pile of assholes following you around. Who are sad that someone else got a shiny thing that they can't have.

And they'll probably keep on bitching until the sun burns out because they have nothing better to do.
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Rolled 28

>>29720460
hahaha victory
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Hurrr dun like surprises XDDD

Look I can shitpost too!
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>>29720445
>>29720471

>>29720460 ...although I've been wrong before.
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>>29720461
>Err, the description was pretty implicit that he was going to die at any moment if he kept going.

no, he would die at any minute if the sword stopped protecting him, read it again

It's still an amazingly hacky plot convenience and I have no respect for people who think this is genius writing to just hand out powerups like this. Especially if it's a powerup that trumps every fucking powerup in the setting.

We KNOW we're not getting to his level anymore, so why even bother improving ourselves? Frankly Monique has won this quest.
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>>29720460
It's cool, Arch. Pretty much understandable considering the massive amounts of faggotry being put forth by the idiots who are butthurt over nothing.
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Monique is best character, beats Reinhold in a fight, gets pussy, and makes players mad jelly.
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>>29720454
there was foreshadowing. Kubo-level foreshadowing basically insinuating Monique was talking to more than voices in his head, but foreshadowing. That foreshadowing, however, didn't link in any way to one of twenty something weapons powerful enough to threaten armies. Hell, arch countermanned any foreshadowing by telling us that it was impossible for someone of our caliber to get our hands on a Sealed King.
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>>29720460
Wow guys way to be assholes.

Sorry you feel that way arch.
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And now I see why people hate quests.
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>>29720460
Take a month break and learn how to write, you fucking hack.
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>>29720460

See... see you next thread.
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This thread tho
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>>29720358
implying some kind of white knighting followed by a claim which has nothing to do with either quoted post, then complaining about fallacies, followed directly by telling them that they are wrong without a contradiction to either post...

I don't know what you are attempting to do here, but its neither arguing nor is it making any coherent sense.

>>29720460
I can't blame you, just dont give up. You've created something interesting with people who enjoy it.
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>>29720430
Monique wasn't the underdog, because of his noble status.
His noble status means that he CONSTANTLY needs show off his strenght and martial prowess, more so because his house is that of duelists.

He failed to meet that obligation and he fought dirty against an opponent that was superior to him in every single way and used his noble status to bend rules in his favour.
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>>29720508
He's trying to write like a VN.
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>>29720460
take a few days off to let things calm and do stuff for yourself and let me get my sleep schedule right, thanks anyway, and your work is apreciated
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>>29720517
Probably won't be one.
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>>29720460
Take care Arch, just take it in stride.
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>>29720119
I get what you're saying
buy this feels a lot like the ending to mass effect 3

It isn't just that we lost
it's that we lost against semi - blatant rule breaking.
And as far as we've seen, there was no comeuppance in regards to said unsportsmanlike conduct.

Granted this is someone else's story; wet can read or fuck off

But we've been invested over 100 threads

It's kind of like being given candy only to find sit inside.

Straight losing to the sword would've been more acceptable to the common Anon.
it was a nuke after all.

Instead we learned we HAD won but he was holding himself together using "non-attack " magic

Reinhold himself will likely not fight it.

The injustice and dishonor in such bull is pissing many off.

If that's the intention, arch should clarify it.
Otherwise t comes of as him just justifying that this is okay.
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>>29720508
agree this whole quest is a huge shit post and an eyesore
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>>29720442
Here is a picture of a door if you do not like this quest there are others on 4chan that I will gladly recommend. No one is making you stay.
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>>29720460
Sorry Arch, if we had the power to reach through the internet and strangle these people we would.

They'll get bored eventually, don't lose hope.
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>>29720386
he found a sealed king 4-5 weeks after we punched him in the face.
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>>29720460
But, you said you were writing.
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>>29720430
You're not the underdog when you're nobleborn from house of duelists and are carrying one of the most powerful weapons in existence against a nameless peon with a sharpened piece of metal.
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>>29720482
>>29720487
>>29720508
I'm done with you people.

The fact that you sit around here and do nothing but try to derail shit is sad.
Go on and act like you did something by being putrid cunts
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>>29720460

Completely understandable. The morons seems to be out in force tonight.
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>>29720460
Just write the VN.

I think the biggest problem with your quest is that it doesn't actually fit the quest format.

I want to keep playing it, but not here and with /tg/.

I'd suggest taking some time off at least.
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>>29720508
Shut up you stupid troll.
If you dislike the quest leave it, and go back to you miserable excuse for a life.
Waste of fucking oxygen, I bet you're one of those full-on autistic basement dwelling neckbeards.

>>29720487
Get the fuck out.
You'll never win, bitch, from now on all you'll manage is to be ignored.
Die choking on a horse cock.
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>>29720532
and nothing of value was lost
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>>29720460
Take some fucking writing classes, homo.
>>29720527
Clearly he has a long way to go
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>>29720532
What a fucking relief
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>>29720460
Oh wow.

Archelon, there will always be a vocal few who shit on things. That is endemic to anonymous boards.

You cannot pay angry shitposts heed, because they are angry and they are shitposts. Reasoned and thought out comments like Cosgroves in your guys' irc chat is one thing, its constructive and lets you examine reactions from a fresh perspective.

But if you pay any fucking heed to someone who blatantly shitposts like this, you're damning yourself. Don't.
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>>29720460

This quest is going to go just like that Harry Potter quest.

The QM does something stupid and a few neckbeards end up jeering him until he broke.
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Okay, seriously Arch, I'm not mad at you. I never was

I'm mad at the twist you made, and not writing isn't going to help it because we just dwell on it more.

Sorry you can't take criticism well.
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>>29720559
I sincerely hope you're not sincere.
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>>29720562
>writing classes
Your butthurt is showing, his quest's quality is great when compared to the average quest of /tg/.
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>>29720532
Thank God, one less cancerous tumor plaguing /tg/ will be gone.
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>>29720572
he ain't been given criticism.
Criticism is constructive and offers advice on how to improve.
What he got is a bunch of faggots yelling incoherently.
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>>29720508
>>29720562
Fucking samefag
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>>29720536
I thought it was abundantly obvious because he was so gracious in defeat (to the point of redundancy) and that this duel literally counts for nothing but personal honor.
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>>29720579
Stop Anon, please. You're killing me
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>>29720572
>Anything that's been said in this thread being anything close to resembling criticism.

no, criticism focuses on actual points and issues with writing.whatever, the only thing that's been thrown at Arch in this thread is blatant insults.
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Seriously, why can't they hit AoPH and just leave PGQ alone? What'd Arche do to them?
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>>29720493
The sword was implicitly implying he "couldn't keep this up". Read it again. If it could keep him together for ever, this would never become a problem. THe sword's espoused worry signifies this isn't the case.

In other words, learn to draw conclusions.
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>>29720460
See you around arch. Sorry for the fuckwits harshing your mellow, the people who don't just hateread will be here when you come back
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Arch, why are you melting down? We're discussing something in your own setting

We discuss it not because we're 'shitposting' or because we hate you, we're doing it because we care about this setting and going and giving monique that sword hurt that setting for us.

We're hurt because we care about it, Arch. We're hurt because we want to have fun with this setting, not degrade your enjoyment of it.
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>>29720583
>dislikes quests
>wants them off /tg/
Go back to your 40k threads, faggot.
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Can we all agree to not respond to the shitposters next time? This thread wouldn't have been nearly as bad had people ignored them.
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>>29720583
>>29720563
>>29720560

Why do we have to act like kindergartners?
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>>29720563
>>29720562
>>29720560
>>29720508
>>29720487
Pretty sure it's all the same dumb ass.
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>>29720594
>>29720603

There's been MORE THAN ENOUGH criticism in this thread.

In last thread

and the thread before that.

Like the dice system, like not giving nique the sword, etc. etc.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not criticism. You should pay more attention to criticism you don't like.
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>>29720572
The bulk of the "criticism" in this thread is better labeled as "shitposting and thinly-veiled insults", and frankly the guy is under no obligation to listen to anons calling him a homo or whatever else.

I too was a bit angry at the twist, but come on now.
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Good luck, Arch sorry to have this degenerate
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>>29720614
Look at the amount of trolls directly insulting him and telling him to quit, or just admitting they want to derail it.
Realize, your concerns may be real, but others are just trolling
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>>29720594
Cosgrove gave him some of the best wisdom I've ever seen.

and he brushed it off saying it was our fault.
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>>29720621
it's not us. Its the people here specifically to shit post.
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>>29720603
all the fag deserves
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>>29720621
they're all exactly a minute apart. Its probably all one guy acting like a kindergardener
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>>29720460
basically I