Ghosts of Retribution are on the move. Those respobsible for the terrible betrayal at Varda are going to feel pain. Tonight we are expecting mass executions of Ecclesiarchy officials, lots of gunboat diplomacy and maybe even a Sector-wide civil war between Astartes and the Ministorium.If you are new and want to join in, here is our chat: http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23RisingSons&server=irc.Rizon.netWikipedia: http://chapterquest.wikia.com/wiki/Chapter_Quest_Wiki
>>29299509"By the way, Archcardinal Astrobelus Kest, do you happen to remember a fine Space Marine by the name of Clarus?"
>>29299509Also, I will be working on wiki tonight. I hope to cover following articles:+Troya+Ursus Dynasty+???Also, someone had a good idea of adding a new page called Drawing Board to suggest your schemes and plans before they are implemented:http://chapterquest.wikia.com/wiki/Drawing_Board
>>29299585>I have never had a pleasure to know many of your brothers by name, Chapter Master, and this brother Carlus is not one I can recall I am afraid. He is doing fine, I hope, fighting for the Emperor and all?Please roll your Scrutiny(+10) to understand whether he speaks the truth or roll Persuasion(+10) to convinve him to reveal his hidden thoughts, if there are any(requires specific argument to unlock this option)
Take Kest and Ursus aside before the court hearing:>Gentlemen, none of us want sector wide instability, but you see I serve my brothers just as they serve me, and they demand vengeance. They place the entirety of the blame on the Iron Monks as a whole, due in no small part to your previous.....'interference' in our affairs, does the name 'Clarus' ring a bell? If the Iron Monks were to provide them with sufficient reparations for the crimes committed by Haran Dreifus, payment for lost brothers and destroyed material, such a sign of genuine regret would do much to calm their fury. Of course, they will not be truly satisfied until Dreifus his hunted down, but it would certainly make them stop desiring the deaths of Iron Monks priests wherever we go.
>>29299767"I didn't expect you would either. however, let me see if I can recite this properly had a warrant which stated ""By the orders of Astrobelus Kest, Archcardinal of Sector Deus, this person is declared to be under direct protection of Ecclesiarchy and anyone who will lay a hand on him, obstruct him in his duties or deny him help and support, will be going against the will of the Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind."" "I assume he gained this on his pilgrimage.....May I inquire where exactly he gained this....order."
>>29299879That's no proof of anything other than that he had protection of Kest. We have to mention that we found this note after we caught Clarus spying.
>>29299925All in due time.
>>29299953It's just not an order. It's a seal of protection. The only suspicious thing is that it was found after he was caught spying. Omitting that fact makes the seal uninteresting.>>29299779Say this.
>>29300068>It's just not an order. It's a seal of protection. The only suspicious thing is that it was found after he was caught spying. Omitting that fact makes the seal uninteresting.What was the seal given for? And wouldn't that give him a reason to deny the seal existed or was given?
>>29299814>>29299855(VJ, as persuasion is a harder and more rewarding option in this situation, you needed to offer some kind of argument why should Kest open up to you, as I stated in the original post. Even if you would have rolled a critical success, I would have to ignore it because you haven't completed the requirements for Persuasion to become available option. Bear this in mind for the future.)>>29299879>Well, even if that order was not counterfeit, I have to state that there are hundreds of such warrants issued every month to various individuals who have proven the need for the protection of the Mother Ecclesiarchy and while I do sign them quite often, it's not me who suggests them. I feel that this brother has done something wrong to you, if that is the case, please bear in mind, that one of my subordinates might have asked me to extend my protection to this person.>>29299779>What kind of compensation are we speaking about here..?
>>29300166>Reparations for the destruction caused to Varda, as well as the materials lost, and, most importantly, the destruction of priceless geneseed, the lifeblood of our chapter. Its not that my marines want your money, otherwise we'd demand much more than just the value of what was destroyed. What we want is a sign that the Iron Monks are genuinely regretful of what occurred, and want to make amends. Such a display would make my brothers much less.....homicidal towards the Iron Monks.
>>29300166"I see, so may I inquire as to if these suggestions and warrants have the reason and date signed recorded?""And no, he has done nothing wrong to me Arch Cardinal, what would give you that impression?"
>>29300306>Furthermore, we would request a complete removal of Iron Monk support of Hive-Bishop Fidorus Pax, and his book, Monstrum: Adeptus Astartes declared heretical, falsely telling the entire sector we mean them harm is incredibly counter-productive to sector stability. I'm sure you'll agree with me, Governer Ursus?
Rolled 100, 72 = 172>>29300306>>29300422Rolling for Astrobelus Kest and for Larion Ursus to see their reaction you your demands:Kest: (targets: light 60, hard 30) D1Ursus (targets: light 75, hard: 35) D2>>29300309>Well, the fact that you cannot ask that brother yourself about this does not speak well of your Chapter management skills... Or maybe indicates some deeper problem with your brotherhood. Kest is getting slightly agitated.>I will make sure to send someone to check the registers, maybe we will find something.
>>29300306>>29300166>In addition, the book Monstrum: Adeptus Astartes must be banned. Do you know what this book preaches, Ursus? It preaches that the entire Astartes are nothing but inhuman battle-mutants cursed by the Emperor and that it is not his will that we exist. It calls for the populace to 'resume' a crusade against us, the Emperor's Chosen and protectors of all Mankind. This is heresy, and if it is not removed who knows how many more heretics it will spawn. Man cannot be confused now. The people must not fight their protectors. This sector's stability depends on it.>>29300309Don't say this. The whole point is that we know that he has been spying on us. Saying this implies that we do not have control over our brothers.
>>29300673>100, 72IS THAT GOOD OR BAD?!?!?!
>>29300673"I would have thought you'd have known he was dead Arch Cardinal, he seemed to keep in contact with the friends he had made in his Pilgrimage, very close indeed, would you happen to know anyone that was high up enough to "Suggest" to you his warrant who kept close contact with him?"
>>29300887NO. Don't say this. He is not dead, he is MIA, and making it look like we killed him is foolish in light of that seal of protection.
>>29300887Don't say his dead for the love of god.
>>29300953>>29300921Oh sorry."I would have thought you'd have known missing in action Arch Cardinal, he seemed to keep in contact with the friends he had made in his Pilgrimage, very close indeed, would you happen to know anyone that was high up enough to "Suggest" to you his warrant who kept close contact with him?"All better now?
>>29300673Kestus is extremely hostile to the ideas you proposed:>I am afraid Ecclesiarchy does not represent the interests of the Iron Monks and neither do the Iron Monks represent Haran Dreifus or his twisted machinations. I am not able to grant your requests - remember that I have already agreed to bring all those men who are not directly involved in this transgression to your judgement.Larion Ursus however is a little bit more supportive of your demands:>I think, that some compensation should be provided by Ecclesiarchy due to the fact that it was under the Ministorium banner that Dreifus managed to trick honourable Astartes into believing him... I will not get involved into financial matters, but I will personally sign the decree banning Monstrum: Adeptus Astartes in the boundaries of Sector Deus and Hive-Bishop Fidorius Pax will no longer be welcome to preach in the Capitolis Sectorum. No, Astrobelus, I have made up my mind.Kest is forced to agree with Ursus' decision regarding Fidorius Pax and his damned book, however if you will want any compensation, you will have to find another way to get it. Alternatively you can always use power...Are you ready to proceed to the High Imperial Court?
>>29301250I'm not sure if threatening him this way is wise.
>>29301137>>29301250Hang about hang about can we use a favour point with the HLoT to foce him to pay reparations for what they destroyed?
>>29301137"The Ecclesiarchy and the Iron Monks however represent the inability to control their own high ranking members, which Haran Dreifus so cunningly wove himself into.""Not to mention, the Ecclesiarchy and the Iron Monks also represent the forces mislead by Haran Dreifus, both in their recruitment to his cause, which I believe was entirely uninterrupted by the Ecclesiarchy or the Iron monks, which may I ask what was his reasoning from taking those troops? Or do you wantonly give out the power to take over worlds to men who seem to turn into heretics at the drop of a hat?""As well as the men currently in our possession, the men who have surrendered also lie within Varda for judgement, which if not repaid in coin, will have to be worked away with sweat and blood."
>>29301137>The Ecclesiarchy might not represent the interests of the Iron Monks, and the Iron Monks might not represent Haran Dreifus and his actions, but Dreifus certainly represents the Ecclesiarchy and the Iron Monks and unless both make amends they show that they not only cannot control their subordinates but are not willing to pay for their misdeeds. It is their negligence that lead to this betrayal and it is their responsibility to make right. Dreifus was acting under their banner. If the Iron Monks are not willing to pay for his misdeeds then I am forced to conclude that he has their tacit support.>The Iron Monks will pay, one way or the other. I implore you to make this easier on them.
>>29300673Shouldn't this be their roll to resist our charm and logic?Why are you rolling for us?
>>29301509>then I am forced to conclude that he has their tacit support and that they believe Dreifus's only mistake is that he was not successful in his effort to destroy us.
Sorry for being away. Ursus Dynasty expanded: http://chapterquest.wikia.com/wiki/Ursus_Dynasty>>29301343Yes, that is possible for 1 point of Favour. Please confirm that you want to do that.>>29301379>>29301509>>29301691>I have told you what I can do for you. If you want, we can recall our deal and leave it for the Imperial Court to decide, Inquisition or not!>>29301547Because that's not about you charming or persuading them, it's about what they can offer from their organisational perspective. Example: maybe Kest has just 200W left in his treasury at the moment and he knows that if he will pay reparations, Ecclesiarchy will go bust. Maybe it's some other reason. Either way, he is unable to make further concessions.
>>29301990Let me give a list of reparations required:46 Suits of Astartes Power Armour. 92 Million Thrones2 Rhino APCs. 8 Million Thrones1 Suit of Terminator Armour. 10 Million Thrones52 Units of Astartes Geneseed. 200 Million ThronesDamage caused to Vardan Infrastructure. 7 Million Thrones (In my endless mercy I have omitted the 30 Million Throne cost of Novomrk's generators as I gave the order to destroy them)Compensation directly to the Vardan people. 50 Million Thrones & PrisonersTotal: 317 Million Thrones to the Ghosts of Retribution. 50 Million Thrones & unconditional control of the prisoners taken to the people of Varda.So guys.....favour point?
>>29302066Perrow's saying we should try and win it in the trial first, is this a possibility Skargan?
>>29301990>Example: maybe Kest has just 200W left in his treasury at the moment and he knows that if he will pay reparations, Ecclesiarchy will go bustThat's a terrible example considering they've outfitted an army against us which seems to be from every angle completely expendable for, the prices that we get things, far surpasses 200 wealth.So, that is a terrible example, please make another.
>>29302125Nah. Let's burn favor point. I don't like courtrooms. Kest probably has the advantage in there.
>>29301990"We will buttfuck you if you don't agree to pay FULL reparations. MAybe we can work out a payment plan, but you WILL pay, or you WILL behold the true might of our "Strategic Girth"."
>>29302066If we use the favour point and have them pay reparations, will Kest still testify against Dreifus' buddies in court, or are we effectively buying them off?
>>29302348Yes.Pic related: their world pretty damn soon
>>29302371I don't know, but even if his buddies are not punished I say take the money. Dreifus is enough... for now. We have no way to verify whether they punish the right people. They'll probably just get rid of people that are trouble to them. If they are trouble to them, they may be useful to us.>>29302420Pls Brother. Let's save our girth for the Xenos and the Traitor. This is a family friendly dialogue.
>>29302472Kest knows who the rotten apples are, it's in his own interest to point them out to us too.
>>29302503We can't trust Kest. We can trust gold.I want the tangible thing that will benefit our chapter, not some nebulous punishment that will probably find its way to the wrong people. If we're going to punish the Iron Monks lets do it ourselves.
>>29302674Aye. I vote we continue with the lawsuit, and call on the Sector Lord as our liege to help out.This will weaken the IM in the eccelsiarchy, and if properly publicized could weaken the IM and ecclessiarchy among the commons. The White Preachers and Eaglebearers can fill in the void.
Now you stand in the Halls of Justice in Tachion Primaris. This grandiose palace is the place where all the major Imperial disputes are being settled in the name of Emperor. Fortunes of whole noble dynasties rise and fall here, saints are being declared heretics and villains are announced to be heroes. Sometimes one word said at the right time here can decie the fate of the worlds and the population of millions. As your Thunderhawk roars over the ashen sky of the Hive-world towards the Halls of Justice, you notice tens upon tens of thousands of people rushing towards the palace. And these are not just some commoners, that kind of people are not even allowed here, these people are nobles, merchants, priests and military officers, all rushing to see or at least to listen to the greatest trial of their lifetime. Astartes, Angels of Death, are accusing Ministorium, Servants of the Emperor, of high treason. This is something that could shake the foundations of the Segmentum itself. Brother Pilot Asteus nods looking at the crowds below:>They are right to come to watch this, milord. We are going to get justice served today, one way or another.He pats Thunderhawks' weapon controls lovingly.>Make sure to make them pay. For Volion, for Laren and even for that bastard Ardius. For all the brothers who gave their lives defending our Realm. Make them pay, milord, and we shall shed our blood in a thousand battles more for you.As you step down onto the roof of one of the magnificent towers surrounding Halls of Justice, Larion Ursus approaches you, surrounded by his Honour Guard. Your men give a sincere salute even if their duty here is not to you directly. However Larion also wears the insignia of Iron Monks on his left shoulder. A clear political statement, showing that he trusts the marines, but values Ecclesiarchy too.
Rolled 95, 28, 94, 93, 7, 67, 91, 64, 83, 83 = 705>>29302780>Are you ready, Chapter Master? This is going to be a big day. Make sure to remember to stick to the agreement, otherwise everything will go to hell. I have your back on this one, but only if you act sensibly.===Guests of interest who might attend the trial:===1. Fabricator General Regon (70%) +1 your cause2. Hive-Bishop Fidorius Pax(85%) +1 Ecclesiarchy cause3. Lord Governor Kerius Dermont(50%) +1 your cause4. Representative of the White Preachers (70%) Neutral5. Lady Canoness Preceptor Amelia Engel (65%) Neutral6. Leutenant Gaius of the Ultramarines (50%) +1 to your cause7. Representative of the Merchant League (30%) +1 to your cause8. Secret guest 1(90%) ? 9. Secret guest 2(75%) ?10. Secret guest 3(20%) ?===Please state up to 5 demands that you want this court to enfore, starting with the most important and going down. Your goal in this scene is to gather up as much support to your cause as possible, this will determine how many of your demands and to what extent will Court enforce. At the moment you are perceived as a victim, granting you +1 to your cause.+++Ecclesiarchy: 0Ghosts of Retribution: 1
>>29303369Skargan will you let us plan this out please. We must choose our words carefully.
>>29303369+Fabricator General Regon sends his apologies, he will not be available to personally participate in the trial due to the terrible malfunction of one of the Nestorian forges, he is the head of crisis management.+Hive-Bishop Fidorius Pax arrives to the hall on the back of a huge platform, carried by a dozen slaves, he continues to roam around the main hall, preaching against you, clearly unafraid because of the protection this place grants him. He even goes as far as to distribute for free the copies of his book to the important guests who are going into the trial, so that they would "know the enemy that they are dealing with". +1 to Ecclesiarchy cause+Lord Governor Kerius Dermont sends his greetings, but is unable to attend the trial due to the fact that Mormark is under quarantine and it could have political consequences.+White Preachers have not sent a representative, they clearly do not want to antagonize Iron Monks in this situation. Or maybe they know something more about this..?+Lady Canoness Preceptor Amelia Engel enters the hall in full armour, with stern look on her face. She gives her wordless greetings both to you and to Astrobelus Kest. She is clearly unsure how to treat this situation. The last time you were on trial, she was your opposition, but many things changed since then.+Someone you would have never expected to appear is Gaius, who marches into the hall with two of his brothers, bearing full parade armour, loudly exclaiming his greetings to the world of Tachion Primaris from the Ultramarines Chapter and his support for the Astartes in need, Ghosts of Retribution. The legendary reputation of the Ultramarines Chapter boosts your prestige too.+Merchant League do not send their representative because of the warp storm, however you suspect, that they do not want to lose either of their business interests.
>>29303822+The last to enter the hall is a retinue of a dozen figures. They do not display their colours and banners, but march in silence. They are not excited about trial at all. It is their duty, their work, their everyday routine. They are the only ones in this room that have greater power than the judge himself. They are the Inquistion.
How many civilians died at Varda?How many Scitaari died at Varda?How many Iron Monks died at Varda?I'll look on wiki just want clarification.
Before the proceedings begin, you inquire about who is going to be the judge. You soon find out that it will be Nestus Margon, the same High Judge who was heading the court two decades ago when you first entered these halls. You know that he has a dislike for Space Marines, especially because of the fact that his love, Anastasia Belladon, seems to be infatuated by one of your Brothers, Sergeant Lusmer, who serves in the service of Larion Ursus as the head of the Honour Guard. This would strengthen Kest's cause against you, but the fact that you are now the vassals of Larion Ursus, makes Nestus Margon hold his emotions back. You think that he will be impartial in this situation.Strength of claims:+1 You (Gaius)+1 You (Victim)+1 Kest (Pax)===Astartes: 2Ministorium: 1
>>29304146>How many civilians died at Varda?I have forgotten to generate that. It was 50+d50 thousands. You may roll now.>How many Scitaari died at Varda?432 if I am right.>How many Iron Monks died at Varda?Around 8-9 thousands. Almost as much became prisoners, a few more thousands ran for the hills. +++Nestus Margon opens the trial with a lengthy ceremony, during which a servo-skull flies over to your stand and leaves you an unsigned note, but it is clear who wrote it.>IT WAS AGREED THAT THERE WILL BE NO INQUISITION IN THE DEAL. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING?
Rolled 24 + 50>>29304392
>>29304392Reply in turn. >I HAVE NO HAND IN THIS. DID YOU REALLY THINK THE INQUISITION WOULD NOT SHOW UP TO AN EVENT OF THIS SCALE?
>>29304515I mean, respond on the back of the note, and tuck it into the skull again.
>>29303369>>29304216"Before we start properly, I would like to offer thanks to those who have come to the court today""Fidorius Pax, thank you for coming to bring your unbiased opinion to this court today, I hope your contribution will be worth the trip.""Lady Canoness Preceptor Amelia Engel, the same goes to you as well, I hope that our previous enguagements shall not sway either of our words today."Lieutenant Gaius of the Ultramarines, it is an unexpected gift to have a Battle Brother join us on this day.""We are not here to discuss that which is obvious members of the court, that of which being that one Haran Dreifus, and all of those who supported and empowered him willingly are traitors to the Emperor, heretics to our holy cause, and a danger to all of those in the Imperium.""We are here today to talk about how Retribution for the crimes committed against the Imperial Citizens of Varda, and of course, wounded Chapter of Adeptus Astartes, the Ghosts of Retribution.""Eighty six of my brothers fell to the hands of the Iron Monks under Haran Dreifus' command, as well as 432 scitarri cohorts who were all of them in defence of the Imperial world of Varda, and her citizens of which despite our best efforts 74,000 have died.""Our wishes are simple, bring justice for the blood spilled by the hands of those mislead by heretics, most preferably with their own blood, as well as bringing reparations to those who are still living for the damages inflicted upon their lives."
>>29304515>>29304559You receive reply within minutes.>DO NOT DRAG THEM INTO THIS OR WE WILL START PLAYING DIRTY. LET'S STICK TO THE DEALAlso, as a sidenote, how many and what troops did you bring with you? Any special characters?>>29304455Can someone please edit page of Varda by detracting these deaths from the population total and making a short note in history about this loss of life?+++OOC this is getting tense guys, this trial can decide many things for decades to come for the Chapter.
>>29304668>>29303965Forgot a note there."And to those working tirelessly to save the Imperium from itself, and the enemies around it, I am afraid I do not know any of you by name, but I thank you all for your continued devotion to your work, and for unexpected journey to the court today, I hope you will find nothing out of order with any of the participants of the court."
>>29304668>>29304763Can we wait a bit longer.
>>29304828Just a proposed opening statement, wait as long as we like.
>>29304723>>29304392>>29304216>>29303822>>29303369Ladies and Gentlemen of the court, the Imperial World of Varda was attacked, invaded, and ransacked by the Iron Monk Bishop-Marhsall Haran Dreifus. This is nought but fact, backed up by the testimonies of the crew of the Frigate Strongback, who heroically rebelled against their officers when they realised they were fighting the loyal Adeptus Astartes. Several days of fierce fighting resulted in the deaths of 74 Imperial citizens at the hands of Dreifus’ men, including Protheran Refugees [state this whilst looking at Engel], 86 Battle Brothers of the chapter, and 419 Skitarii warriors of the Adeptus Mechanicus.It is true that it was under Dreifus’ direct orders that these crimes were committed, and indeed everyone has expressed desire in hunting him down for them. However, I believe responsibility should ALSO be placed the Iron Monks, surely if a man such as Dreifus rose from a common street preacher to a Bishop-Marshall in just a few short years, there must have been others facilitating him. Indeed, the Iron Monks have shown nothing but contempt for Adeptus Astartes, as evidenced by Hive-Bishop Pax’s book ‘Monstrum: Adpetus Astartes’, give it a read [Looking at Gaius], it contains nothing but lies and propaganda designed to rail the populace again the Space Marines. Surely so actively encouraging internal strife within the Imperium with no provocation is nothing less than heresy?I demand that those inside the Iron Monks responsible for his meteoric rise to power, as well as the obscene military might he had at his disposal, be immediately declared heretics for their crimes [Demand 1]. Furthermore, I demand the Iron Monks to provide reparations for the damage caused by their forces in the attack, broken down like so:
>>2930485957 Million Thrones Reparations to Varda. 7 for infrastructure damage and 50 directly to Vardan civilians for the losses of life.46 Suits of Astartes Power Armour. 92 Million Thrones2 Rhino APCs. 8 Million Thrones1 Suit of Terminator Armour. 10 Million Thrones52 Units of Astartes Geneseed. 200 Million Thrones57 Million Thrones Reparations to Varda. 7 for infrastructure damage and 50 directly to Vardan civilians for the losses of life.Totalling 367 Million Thrones (367 Wealth) for the entire incident. [Demand 2]Finally, we demand the court acknowledges Dreifus’ clear violation of the Decree Passive [Demand 3]. An ancient contract laid down so we may never again endure a Reign of Blood.Thank you.-------------Whadda we think?
>>29304859Imperial citizens made out of this the best with only 74 of them dying.
>>29304906Asking for repairs might go against the deal we struck with Dreifus beforehand, other than that, he will testify against Dreifus' allies, and we get our vengeance.
>>29304964The deal we struck with Kest**Striking a deal with Dreifus would have been heretical. And bad.
>Servants of the Imperium. I am here today to demand justice for the treacherous betrayal of Iron Monk Bishop-Marshal, 'Haran Dreifus', which not only all but destroyed the capital of Varda, Novomark, but ended in the deaths of 86 Astartes, 419 Scitarii cohorts, more than 8817 traitor Iron Monks, and 74,000 Vardian civilians.>While I am ashamed at my failure to do my duty as an Astartes and prevent such grievous loss of innocent life, it is clear who here deserves condemnation. I called the Ecclesiarchy for reinforcements against a potential threat. My astropaths discovered an unkown fleet heading, in force, to Varda. I feared that they planned to attack, and my men were greatly outnumbered. We were not prepared for war, so I called for the aid of the Ministorum, and received a dagger in the back. It turns out that the aid and the attack were one and the same! The fleet my astropaths had detected was Dreifus's. From the very beginning he had planned to raise his sword against his brothers, against loyal Imperial citizens. There are few worse crimes, and those responsible must pay.Not done yet.
>>29304906Agreed, but also demand a formal apology on the part of the IM and Ecclesiarchy.
>>29304859I disagree with Demand 1.
>>29304723We brought with us, Brethorius, Trianion, Laptus, Macedon, Kay, Kronos and Mercurion as a honor delegation, with three additional veterans. In addition also Kvei Lohar in his position as Governor of Varda.
>>29304859Demand 1, in addition to sentencing them to the trial of the blade.
>>29305366I'm against. Probably outvoted. I think it is senseless to demand this.
>Some would have you believe that the only person responsible was Dreifus, that this was an isolated act of a renegade, unsupported by his fellow Iron Monks, but this is a lie. It is clear that Dreifus's heretical beliefs are not special; but common in his sect. It is only because of the support the Iron Monks and the Ecclesiarchy offered him that so many died. Even now, Hive-Bishop Fidorious Pax preaches heresy against the Imperium, outside this very courtroom! He hands out the book, 'Monstrum: Adeptus Astartes' which portrays the Protectors of Mankind, the Children of the Emperor, as nothing but blood-thirsty battle-mutants, 'monstrum bellarius'. He calls for humanity to crusade and destroy their very protectors? Do you not see the heresy? Is it not obvious how not only accepting, but encouraging such beliefs lead to this tragedy? This book and its heretical contents threaten not just the stability of not just this sector, but the entire Imperium! If not for the Astartes, Mormark would have been destroyed by the Heretek. If not for our Emperor's many guardians countless of worlds would be lost to the Ruinous Powers, and despite the, the local Ecclesiarchy still allows this heretical belief to exist and even supports the sects spreading this disgusting doctrine.
>>29304668The guests are very pleased that you addressed each one of them individually by name. Even the crowds of nobles and other interested people seem to appreciate you taking time to mention them, it's not common in the Imperium these days. The way you handled yourself brings support to your cause. You may roll d100 for your Persuasion(+20) to get +1 to your cause.>>29304859>>29304906Your demands are met with applause, cries of denial, laugh and banging of tables in approval. People who have gathered are divided over this issue. However your case is made up of hard facts, so scholars of law are forced to think about advising Nestus Margon to decide in your favour. You may roll Logic(+30) to get +1 to your support.>>29305101>>29305529Your decision to end your speech with emotional note affects the public strongly. There is not one non-ecclesiastic person in the hall who would not be in awe of the mighty Astartes and be proud to some extend to be protected by you. At the end of your speech Gaius rises from his seat before anyone else and strikes his power armoured fist into his chest, then extends his hand with his fist clenched tight and roars at the thousands of spectators:>AVE ASTARTES! AVE IMPERATOR! ULTRAMARINES ARE WITH THE GHOSTS OF RETRIBUTION! ALL HAIL THE CHAPTER MASTER!The hall erupts in thunderous applause, they are taken by this display of loyalty and duty to them, the citizens of the Imperium of Man. This might not be a good argument from the judicial perspective, but judges will have to take this into account. Roll above your Heresy(+30) and you will get an extra +1 to your cause!
Rolled 49, 95, 64 = 208>>29306123
Rolled 13>>29306123Silence is gold...
Rolled 46>>29306123Roling for the last roll.Assuming we're taking the first of every roll that is.
please roll 4d4 and 1d3 in two separate posts, linking this post.
Rolled 3, 2, 1, 2 = 8>>29306401
>>29306401Don't listen to the void!
Rolled 1>>29306401void y u do dis
Rolled 39, 33, 8 = 80>>29306425>>29306521Word of Varda and the events of the Halls of Justice spread quickly...
>>29306123IDS HABBEDENG WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN YOUCOULDHAVEPREVENTED THIS*man gets "removed" from premesis*
>>29306154Persuasion roll: passed +1Logic roll: failedHeresy roll: passed +1+++Your support increases by 2 points+++Astrobelus Kest takes the stand after you:>I will be brief, my friends, because I feel that there is not much to discuss here. First of all let me state that I understand and value the duty that Adeptus Astartes are doing for us. However sometimes their duties take them to places and make them do things that are not exactly in their jurisdiction. As we have seen, their brutal attack on the Covenant of Adeptus Sororitas two decades ago was a disaster that came out of their meddling in business that didn't involve any threats to the Imperium. However this is not an excuse for what happened at Varda. Haran Dreifus is a heretic, a mad dog that needs to be hunted down and his head put on a spike. What he did is worse than heresy, it's treason! But my friends, tell me, do you really think, that I or my Church, are responsible for the deeds of a single madman! I am in business of funding charity houses and spreading Imperial faith, not waging war! And even in the cases when Ecclesiarchy needs defence, we always make sure to follow the guidelines of Decree Passive just as they have been laid out. If you would inspect our temples even today, you would not find a single armed man there who would serve us. Our guards are pilgrims, the ships that carry us to the stars are all manned by volunteers to the Imperial cause, the soldiers who destroy the hereticsa at our request belong the Noble houses that support the Word of the Emperor. Not single one of those men, ships or machines answers to me or to any brother in my organisation. Even our ranks, such as Leutenant-Bishop, are mere tradition, left from times when this Sector was colonised during the Reclamation Crusade. I find it disgusting and low that Chapter Master claiming that we are not holding up the sacred laws of Sebastian Thor.
>>29307303Or would you want us to discard and turn away every single person who wants to protect Ecclesiarchy with the strength of his arms? Would you want to leave Ministorium wide open for bandits, heretics and aliens to rob? Would you want to make revered priests travel to preach into the distant stars without any protection? If it is so, I would say that you are a madman! This faith was built by books and by swords, taking away either of them will destroy not only it, but the whole Imperium! What would be your next wish, so that we would forbid Imperial Guardsmen praying to the Emperor, because it also violates Decree Passive? Or maybe you'd want to dissolve holy orders of revered Sisters? Please, Chapter Master, let us try to close this wound, don't make it wider by allowing your uncontrolled hormones cloud your mind. I suggest following settlement - we will help you find and punish heretic Dreifus in any way you wish. We will even go as far as to give you the men who you think are responsible for the Betrayal at Varda. Also, as our final gift to you we wil even ask revered Fidorius Pax to leave for Sector Paxia or Sector Scarus and to cease his preaching. People of Capitolis Sectorum, tell me, are my suggestions not generous and full of love? Let us rise up and praise the Emperor, if we wish the Chapter Master to accept these demands!
Rolled 81, 16, 93 = 190>>29307337He is appealing to:>Past reputation (15% chance to get support)>Unreasonable demnds(70% chance to get support)>Emotional support for Ecclesiarchy(45% chance to get support)After the first part of the court, there will be a break. Will you want to speak with anyone, try to bribe judge or someone else, etc, or can we skip it?
>>29307457Speak with Trianon. What's his read on the Inquisitors, are they planning on taking a side that he might have seen? Drop by Gaius briefly for a shoulderclap and a friendly word.
>>29307457>bribe judgefor the record, don't do this
>>29307457Talk to Ursus, didn't he say he'd declare Pax and his book heretical? He shouldn't have any sway in this court. Also talk to Lieutenant Gaius and thank him for hi support, ask him his opinion of Monstrum.
"Lord Captain, we've new orders."A bionic arm calmly snatches the piece of parchment from the junior officer's grasp, the Lord Captain sighing before returning the note to the man in a crumpled ball."Mister Jent! I trust your esteemed House has provided you with the required maps and charts to navigate to Sector Deus?""Yes, Lord Captain.""Very good. If you'd be so kind as to prepare for the required journey...""Yes, Lord Captain.""Master of the Watch, please inform our charges and escorts that we've received new orders.""Aye, Lord Captain.""Helm, set course for the system's edge. We head for Tachion Primaris."
Rolled 31, 6 = 37>>29307457Strength of claims+++Astartes: 4Ecclesiarchy: 2The rest of the trial will last for a total of 3d5 days, the witnesses will be heardm evidence examined and judges will make their decision. Both sides will roll a d100 for defence and d100 prosecution.Defence = you gain +1 support for these marks, 10, 30, 50Prosecution = your enemy loses -1 support for these marks, 25, 50, 75I would prefer 2 players each rolling d100.>>29307588>>29307660Larion Ursus smiles at you:>Yes, just as I said, I will declare that book heretical, but it will go easier if Kest agrees with me. That's why he is offering this as a concession in court. Don't worry, Pax is history.Gaius laughs heartily when you approach:>My friend, I am glad to see that you are winning this damned trial. Such a shame to see warrior such as you tied down in this beaurocratic mess, when you could be out there ripping the spine out of some accursed xeno! Don't worry, I am sure you are going to win this! Oh, and don't worry about Pax. Madmen like him arise every couple of centuries, I heard Space Wolves once had problems with religious extremists in Segmentum Solar... Well, it ended in a bloodbath and after they left led to civil war in that Sub-Sector, so I can only admire your patience and choosing to solve this problem using reason.Trianon is very thoughtful:>I am not sure. They have heard about it even before the trial was announced, that's for sure. I think they still have suspicions about us - we are a new, unproven Chapter, by their standards. However they know that not everything in the Sector Ecclesiarchy is as nice and tidy as Kest tries to show. Inquisitions is a wildcard, Chapter Master, we must treat them carefully.
Rolled 85>>29307995prosecution marks
Rolled 5, 5, 1 = 11>>29307995days
>>29307303>>As we have seen, their brutal attack on the Covenant of Adeptus Sororitas two decades ago was a disaster that came out of their meddling in business that didn't involve any threats to the Imperium.>Heh. My 'brutal attack' involved nothing more than a conversation where I peacefully took a prisoner into my custody.>>But my friends, tell me, do you really think, that I or my Church, are responsible for the deeds of a single madman! I am in business of funding charity houses and spreading Imperial faith, not waging war!>I think, Astrobelus Kest, that your Church is no longer your own if a mere madman is able to commandeer a fleet and his own invasion force. I don't buy it. It is obvious he had support from the Iron Monks, and no amount of alms-giving will conceal it. They must pay for their support.>'Imperial Truth'. Very nice. This is the same Imperial Truth that states that there should be a crusade against the Astartes? I daresay, Kest, that you have failed at your duties if such heresy is able to masquerade as truth. If anything, the punishments should be harsher.Do you guys think we should say this? I want to say more before I'm satisfied but Skargan want this to go quick.
>>29307457Can we approach Engel and request the aid of her Order's Hospitallers for Varda's civilians?
>>29308112>...and they must pay for their support and the damage it caused
yaaaaaaayyyyy I looooooooooove writing reams and reams of dialogue so I can lose because of dice
>>29308385Welcome to games that use dice.
Rizon is down for me.And yea, use FP because we suck at everything without them.
>>29308720yeah. what do we want to have happen?
>>29308792Win trial and gain our demands instead of being drawn and quartered by fate.
>>29307995>>29308032>>29308050>>29308112Astartes: 4 (-3) (+0) (+1 support from vjvjv)Ecclesiarchy: 2 (+1) (- 2)CLOSE VICTORY 2:1 (you will achieve minor gains and what was agreed with Kest)In the end, after 11 days of trial, Nestus Margon declared following verdict:>Dear ladies and gentlemen, men of cloth and men of sword, humans and Astartes, this court has finally reached it verdict on the case of Betrayal at Varda. From this midnight, following decisions must be implemented by all loyal Imperial servants in all branches of service.>1. Haran Dreifus and anyone who is with him now bears the mark of Traitoris Extremis, he is to be hunted down and presented living or dead to the Adeptus Astartes of the revered Ghosts of Retribution Chapter. To encourage this, Imperial Authorities will offer the reward of 10 million thrones for anyone who delivers him, alive or dead. We believe, that Ghosts of Retribution will offer a reward of their own in addition to this.>2. The list of following 129 priests who have been in various ways related Haran Dreifus over his career is to be inspected by Ghosts of Retribution and they are to be judged as they for their involvement or lack of thereof in the transgression against the Chapter. This investigation is left to the Chapter to conduct.>3.Ecclesiarchy will grant following compensation to the Ghosts of Retribution because of the fact that it was indirectly associated with attack - 30 million thrones to the Chapter and 30 million worth of thrones to the people of Varda. This can be repayed by building infrastructure, schools, temples and other things of value to the local communities.>4. Hulks in the space around Varda are from now on property of the Ghosts of Retribution, so is "Strongback" as soon as the criminals are delivered to Imperial justice authorities(look at 5). Ships under Dreifus command, if taken in battle, will become property of the person or organisation who will capture or kill Dreifus.
>>29308838burn a favor point w/ HLoT to get all the reparations we are asking for
>>29308838Also we'll put 10 wealth up for Dreifus as well.>>29308948Thanks, I agree.
>>29308838>5. Participants in the munity of the Imperial Navy Escort "Strongback" are sentenced to 25 years of working in the slave gangs aboard the Imperial Navy Cruiser "Theseus". Leaders of the mutiny, including ex-Starboard Gun Battery Sergeant Fedoric Zurich, are sentenced to death by crucifixation in the plaza in front of St. Evangelions Cathedral in Tachion Primaris. Families of the mutineers will not receive any compensations associated with the death of serving sailor and their offspring loses the rights to join Imperial service in any form.>6. Ecclesiarchy is allowed to accept support from it's armed patrons and no one is allowed to challenge this for a 100 years or until another similar incident happens.>7. For the next 100 years priests of Iron Monks allegiance will not be allowed to enter Varda system without invitation.Now that the verdict is passed, you may state if you wish to use any Favour or Fate points to influence the outcome.
>>29309021>5."If I may, Lords and Ladies? Is it the judgement of this court that the loyal crew of 'Strongback' committed a crime in rising against and bringing the Emperor's wrath against a command crew committing a clear act of Heresy?"
A friendly reminder that whatever rewards we are given we should make sure we split some with Nestorium (even though they didn't show up). Their representative left in a bit of a huff at the end of the battle because we impugned her honour. And yes it is probably worth burning Fate/Favour to get a better outcome.
>>29309217We'll give the Eye of the Titan we found on Varda as a gift, Regon'll love it, they love their titans.
>>29309021proposed Fatepoint expenditure:amend 3 to "The Ecclesiarchy will grant compensation to the Ghosts of Retribution equal to 300 million thrones, and an additional thirty million to the people of varda." after "the people of Varda" is retainedamend 5 to "Participants in the mutiny of the Strongback are hereby exonerated, having acted in the greater good of the Imperium, under orders from the Adeptus Astartes in exceptional circumstances"add to 6 "The sum total of this armed support is not to exceed the decree passive. This number is not to include forces directly employed by the Priesthood"
>>29309189>I am afraid that the officers in "Strongback" were following their direct orders as required per codex of Imperial Navy. The mutiny against them is still under jurisdiction of Imperial Navy and is being punished as such. This verdict is not negotiable.>>29309217One note - burning FP or using favour will have an ingame effect this time.>>29309233Add some beads too
>>29309278I agree with this, and we can burn a favor point of one fate point is not enough.That's as much favor and fate as I think we should spend.
>>29309364>It was my understanding that the 'Strongback' was under the command of the Merchant Guild, shouldn't they decide what fate their men have?I say spend a favour point to attain full reparations and let the rest lie (aside from strongback crew thing).
>>29309364"Understood, Lords and Ladies. If ordered to commit Heresy, one must commit Heresy to the best of their ability, as per the orders of their superiors."Emperor forbid anyone act to stop Heresy.
>>29309278add to "Amendment 3", "This may be paid in reasonable installments as agreed upon by the two parties. Furthermore, any assets of Dreifus are to be surrendered to the Ghosts as payment on the part of Dreufus"and add a 8th clause: "The Ecclesiarchy is to apologise to the Ghosts, and assist in any investigations related to the aforementioned list"
>>29309417I'm kind of in favor of Fate Point in addition because I fear that using just Favor will cause a lot of bad things in the future. It's safer to change fate than the minds of the HLoT. The consequences are also easier to predict.
>>29309364>>29309482>damned if you do. damned if you don't.Welcome to 40k.
>>29309569I'm against using a favour point because our life is not in danger.
Let's finish this for tomorrow(or some other evening this week.) Thanks for a good session, goodnight!
>>29309763Is....is that a snowflake on his pauldron?The Speshul Snowflake marines?
>>29309863Howling griffons mane...
>>29309763Thanks Skargan. I have high hopes for the future of this Chapter. Let's make a little Imperium of our own.