My people, to me! It is now the Sacred Time, and in accordance with ancient tradition we tell the history of the tribe.We came to Dragon Pass in 1329 to escape persecution in our homeland, taking the name Fimbulveltr or "Great Winter" in memory of our ancient enmity with Ves Venna. In the two years since then we have found secrets hidden in our tula, fought against the ice demons, and struck blows against the Greydogs and Anmangarn, our ancient rivals. Most recently we found a tribe of duckmen to the North.It is now Sacred Time, and time to allocate our clan magic for the year.
Always remember /tg/.1) No one can make you do anything2) Violence is always an option3) There is always another way
Herds, health, hunting, crops, war, children, and... trade, I guess?
This >>28217054 fag again, I want to make it explicitly clear that saving magic is actually not a good idea, if the wiki's any indication.
2x War1x Hunting1x Health1x Crops1x Herds
>>28217054Hunting and Children are traps of sorts. Children don't contribute anything to production and require support anyway. After investing a few points into Children you'll spend the rest of the game trying to get kids killed to get back to reasonable labor balances.Hunting isn't great either, I don't believe it has an effect on food yield.>>28217091Stocked clan magic functions as a luck stat.
>>28217179Unless anyone has strong feelings about Hunting I'd like to go with this for the year. Any objections?
>>28217281I do not understand enough about this game to know what is a good move.But I would lean toward economic over military growth, so... more crops, I guess?
>>28217281It is now Sea season, and Orstalor continues to be the most reasonable Trickster I've ever seen. We've got twelve goods, which is enough to build a Watchtower if that's something we want.Since we can't go raiding, we should go trading or exploring.>>28217344Magic into Crops lets your farmers plow more land. The more land they plow, the more food gets produced. One unit of food on the menu feeds one person for a year.
>>28217398So choose trading or exploring? Trading.
>>28217398I can't shake the feeling that Orstalor is setting up the entire tribe for a monumental prank, and is building us up to make it all the more hilarious (and disastrous) when it hits.How much stuff do we have to trade?
>>28217439We can do almost anything actually, but trading and exploring are relatively safe and have good benefits.Anyway, we don't have the stockpiles to trade for treasures, but we've got the basics covered, so I'm going to suggest we set up a trade route.The closer a clan's name is to blue the more they like us, and the more likely they are to accept establishing a trade route. Lonisi or the Apples would be good targets.
>>28217513Do the Lonisi or Apples tribes have anything they are renowned for in particular?I remember the omen at the end of the last year said that we needed to get a mystery or something involving Urox because of the signs. Can the Lonisi or Apples help out in that regard?
>>28217495According to the diplomacy screen, 162 cattle and 12 goods. We've actually got a horse deficit; you need one for every thane and noble.Also Orstalor has somehow become our best diplomat. I don't have words .
>>28217603Who wouldn't trust a face like that?
>>28217569Good catch. We need to make a sacrifice to Urox and learn one of his blessings before the end of the year. Our neighbors can't help there, though they can teach us hero stories.Lonisi is known for hating Chaos. The Apples have strong ties to Heortland.Also, Orstalor has just informed me that we have a good chance at becoming allies with the Wolves. We didn't put any points into Diplomacy at Sacred Time, but if anyone wants to go diplomancing that's an option too.
>>28217656Just to move things along I'm going to go ahead and tell Orlgard to ask if the Lonisi want to buy stuff from us. Four thanes go along (despite what the picture shows).
>>28217836No event, so it's now the second half of Sea season. We've got 18 goods, so a Watch Tower might be a good purchase.
>>28217875considering how many times we got raided by them ponyfuckers and how "effective" the rock is at lureing them away i think a watchtower would be good.
>>28217969Fucking Horse-Spawn I swear to god. At least now we have a chance of seeing them coming.
>>28218014The Lonisi ripped us off and decided our superior products would ruin the local economy.
>>28218045Oh hey. These assholes again. With six thanes on guard rotation, the rock and the watch tower we finally saw them coming.
>>28218071although i dont really know too much about our odd's and i might just end up shooting us in the foot, lets KILL EM ALL by charging
>>28218071Put at least one magic into it.
>>28218260>>28218302Having had enough of the horsefuckers to last us ten years, we charged in with the intent of killing them all. Unfortunately, they're pretty good with magic. What do we do to get them to stop?Ingard's got good combat stats, so an option involving direct combat is best for him.
>>28218358Take bold risks
>>28218358Outflank those fuckers!
>>28218358either 3 or 5, and i'm leaning a little towards 5
>>28218406>>28218434Ingard was old, but he was still a warrior... but perhaps he should have remembered why he got to be old.
>>28218519We drove the Horse-Spawn off despite our losses.
>>28218552Well, trying to kill them didn't -quite- work out.
>>28218576On the plus side, offset our horse deficit.
Extra event before Fire season: Dead chief, what do? We're being offered 50 cows to resurrect a chief.Should be pretty obvious how this works. Note that the ritual CAN fail, which will reflect badly on us if we ask for higher compensation.
>>28218576Kill as many as possible and take captives only really work if you outnumber the enemy
>>28218637Perform but ask for nothing/an alliance. It's a healer's sacred duty to do what they can for the suffering.Let's make momma Chalanna Arroy proud.
>>28218648Yep. There's some interesting mathematics that goes into determining what war tactics work and what don't. I'll do a short write up on the subject tomorrow.>>28218672He's not suffering, he's already dead. Still you want the alliance?
>>282186371. Accept their offer
>>28218702>He's not suffering, he's already dead.Yeah but his clan liked him enough to come ask us to bring him back from the dead. They gotta' be suffering in his absence.Or we could just accept, I guess that's simpler.
>>28218769Going with the alliance, you can never have too many friends.And it worked! Free ally! Or rather, an ally in exchange for five magic, putting us at -2. Urk.
It is now Fire season. We can raid freely, but we get magic for doing it in Dark season. This might be a good time to go exploring, except! Our new supply of horses lets us recruit five more weaponthanes, which will bring our total to 17 (once the hurt guy heals up).
>>28218889Don't forget the Urox blessingMaybe we could go on a cattle raid to get cows for the sacrifice
>>28218943A fine point. I went ahead and got the weaponthanes anyway, but accidentally triggered a notification that we were running short of carls for farming. Whoops. We can fix that next season. Right now it's time to steal some cows from the Greydogs.
>>28219055Here's the pic.
>>28219080Unfortunately the Greydogs knew we'd be coming.We're HEAVILY outnumbered, so as to prevent losing people I'd suggest Survival+Evade.One of the downsides to negative clan luck is this becoming much likelier.
>>28219128Survival+Evade. Time to run like bitches.
Could have been worse. Should have been better, but could have been worse.
Here's an interesting event. One of our warriors, if he's going to get married, has to steal a treasure from another clan to give to a third clan.In more important news, Orstalor is finally behaving like a proper Trickster.We've got negative clan magic. Chances of this backfiring are increased.
>>282193512We ain't gonna risk the clan's honor just so Rangoron can get a wife
>>28219351This whole business gives me the heebie jeebies.
>>28219351Go for it.
>>282193513ballz 2 da wallz
Rolled 2We'll let Eurmal decide.1=Let him try.2=Ask the ring to reconsider.
>>28219478Putting points into Diplomacy would have have helped here.
>>28219492At least he tried.
How the fuck am I supposed to survive this shit? I put two points on War every sacred time, yet get raided like 4 times per year and lose about 100 cows.>Praxians>Horse-spawn>Random Neighbors
Earth season. Time to sacrifice to Urox?Wait a second, how the hell did Rangoron heal so fast?>>28219517Offer to Humakt, get Truesword, build walls. Once you're not an easy target, raids will come less often. You might try diplomancing some neighbors, nearby allies sometimes warn you of attacks.
>>28219563i think we should sacrifice
>>28219905Got to go afk, will sacrifice after I return.
>>28219563Early in the game it's best to go War clan to withstand raids. Later on you can switch to Balanced.
>>28219990What's the difference? What bonuses do war clans get?
>>28220027They can put more points into War at sacred time, among other things.Anyway, we've done our divine duty and can now pray to lay the smack down on Chaos.
>>28220159No event, so it's the second half of Earth season.Robasart has made an interesting point by accident. Our treasure Blacktail the Bull has an expiration date--he'll die randomly around 1339. We might want to trade him away in the future.Since we have them as an ally now, we stand a good chance of successfully opening trade relations with the Taralings.
>>28220251Sounds good. Are we still losing horses?
>>28220251Send word, Heort-son, to our neighbours, whowith greed-lust in their heartscovet our finest goodsGift them rings, Heort-son,of silver made by Fimbul handsSpeak the words of tradewith silver-tongue of IssariesAnd bring treasure to your kin(TLDR: Trade Blacktail the Bull for any other treasure, use Goods as bribery if you have to.)
>>28220302We've got 43. I think we're okay on that front.Something that you'll notice in this picture is that there are three kinds of grains being planted: Wheat, barley and rye. They offer different benefits: barley has the highest potential yield, wheat earns us some cash and rye is consistent. The game gives you a small benefit if you have production of all three above 20%.>>28220350Any objections?
>>28220408I have no idea if it's possible to trade for treasures and establish a trading route at the same time. Guess we're going to find out.
The Old Owls are calling in a favor. Kentvent, who's Very Good at this "Customs" thing says that they're trying to take us for a ride. What do we do?
>>28220612It's not really that much the guy's asking for, may as well be generous, cultivate good relations, etc...
>>28220612>>28220675I agree, their clan is not far from ours so it would be good to befriend them
>>28220675In this case, being generous is giving him what he asks. Giving much more will tick off the carls.
>>28220612Honor-bound are weSons of Orlanth all assembledLike to like, favour to favourCustom to custom be honouredFor two-score give them foodas custom and honor demandGive grains to them, Heort-sonand succulent pig-flesh alsoFor honor's price must be paid(TLDR: Give them food for 40, as custom demands.)
>>28220708Forgot pic.>>28220807Bit late, but goddamn do I love the saga narrating.
The bull is off, no clue if we're getting the trade route too.It's also Dark season. I think we should be cattle raiding.
>>28220880Pink names means they're dicks, right? Old Owls. They have it coming.
>>28220917>discharge favor to Old Owls>raid them in the worst season of the yearI love it.Orstalor's being sensical again.
>>28221002Heh. +1 clan magic.
FUCKING. HORSE. FUCKERS.
>>28221050Hail, Heort-son, chief and leaderof Fimbulvetr's mightGird yourself in gleaming mailand speak the words of HumaktRaise high the bannersBlow bronze-bound horns of warShake the spear, the axe, the hammerLet know the spawn of Yelmthat Woe and Doom are theirs(TLDR: Charge the enemy, drive off. Don't sacrifice, it doesn't work out.)
>>28221110Ouch. We're going to make them regret that one of these days.
>>28221150Well that's something at least.Note that we've lost Blacktail; he was the incentive to establish trading relations it seems.
>>28221208Second half of Dark season. Might as well go raiding again.
>>28221242Should have added: give me a target or suggest a different course of action.
>>28221242Greydogs maybe? Red is war I guess.
>>28221273as a side, for a longer term goal, we should make peace with anamagrm just cause its not useful having 2 people attacking.Also, can you please press the button that shows the boundaries of the land for each clan? It'd be useful to know which clan borders on each other
>>28221273Hail, Heort-son, Fimbul-ChiefWax wroth whither Grey-Dog foolsHeed well your father-fathersWho feuded with such ill-bred knavesRun! Heort-son, to battleBury axe-head in craven breastsAnd take torcs and rings and silverFrom coward's hearth and home(TLDR raid Greydogs.)
>>28221320All right, I give up, where's the button?Also the Greydogs seem like they could be a good tribe partner...
Wait I found it.
>>28221303>>28221388Raiding Greydogs, this time with added auxiliaries.
>>28221454Huh, Stag Hearths look big and powerful. Maybe we should be friends.
>>28221495Holy shit, they're in real trouble.
>>28221564Our man Elmalandti has Excellent Combat and Good Leadership.
>>28221604Excellent sounds better than good. Charge!
>>28221623He took injuries but gave our troops a morale boost.
>>28221657Like a true Uroxi!
Oh god this event.
>>28221704all this drama ugh lol
>>28221704Those guys are our neighbors, and not enemies... so let's take Orstalor's advice.
>>28221704Has our trickster steered us wrong yet? I say side with him.#BasedEurmal
>>28221757>>28221753We'll be hearing about this again.Fucking carls.
It is now Storm season. We have our Urox blessing, so we're in the clear on that front.We have nowhere near enough goods to construct the Stockade or the Stone Wall. Given that we have a small farmer deficiency we might consider calling for immigrants. Additionally, we could build a shrine to Issaries (Silvertongue), Humakt (Truesword) or Vinga (Fyrdwomen). We might also send a diplomatic mission or explore.
>>28221704no no no no no
>>28221854Shrine building sounds good. I'd say either Humakti or Vingan shrine.
>>28221854We're under attack -all the time-Go get the Shrine to Vinga, -now-. We need Fyrdwomen.Then sacrifice to Orlanth until you get the secrets of Orlanth & Aroka, do that quest, and GET THE KLANTH.
>>28221879>>28221890Going with Vinga.Silly Robasart, that's not what the shrine is for at all.
>>28221890...Fuck. We should've had the fucking klanth from DAY FUCKING ONE. God I hate not remembering all the shit about this game.
Who the fuck are these jackasses.
>>28221957all these nignogs!
>>28221957These guys are regular fucking Orlanthi, by the look of it. Normal fighting tactics apply but we're outnumbered so we should be careful.
>>28222015Oh, I know that, I just didn't recognize the clan. They're to the north of us by the way.Anyway, charge and drive off gets us a victory at small cost.
>>28222065>We captured 1 horse.Awesome.
>>28222065We're a bit lacking in the farmers department; we ought to consider calling for more. All the same, we could sacrifice to Orlanth for a certain heroquest...
>>28222116Getting the klanth should be a decently high priority, I'd say sacrifice to Orlanth now and call up more farmers at the next opportunity.
>>28222224Which seasons are the ones you want to heroquest in?
So, uh, we found some weird bones or something. Dunno if they're anything special... Maybe we should trade them or something?HAHA FUCK NO, EARTHSHAKERS IMMINENT!
>>28222250Clan hall? Basically i'll support whatever Orstalor says.
Is there a complete list of iOS/PC differences?
>>28222264yea lets keep that shit.
>>28222250Display in Clan Hall.It will look impressive, and might please ancestors for the same reason.
>>28222250Hail, Heort-son, Fimbul-ChiefAll over blood-stained Dragon Pass Shall the skalds sing of youAnd your Hall, skull-ladenKeep these. They're too good
>>28222237For most people it's Dark. But since since our clan gets tangible benefits for successful Dark season raids, we'll want to heroquest in Storm season.>>28222264He asks a rhetorical question.>>28222277It's not quite complete, but if you Google "iOS King of Dragon Pass" the developers have a short change log.Apologies for the delay, spamblocker like you wouldn't believe.
The bones do great with tourists, but the ancestors were cheesed off that we had seemingly draconic accoutrements next to their idols.
>>28222353This. Skulls are awesome.
>>28222400> Magic -3Crap.
Wait hang on, this event chain NEVER resolves this easily.
>>28222443Praise. They ripped her off, she got her own back, all is good. If they want to feud over it, fuck them.
>>28222400Cheese off ancestors to entertain tourists? Yeah, sounds like Eurmal.
>>28222400Yeah, okay...with this? WE DO NOT WANT TO GO HEROQUESTING THIS YEAR. Unless shit changes. That negative luck stat can mean bad shit for the quest.
>>28222443>random asshole has a nameThis won't be the last time we hear about Norbert, mark my wards
>>28222473We thanked her for taking care of her own bullshit on her own time.
Sacred time! Good work Fimbulvetr, we survived another year!
>>28222589sure, if you are
Our tula, sans text marring the cropland.Anyone up for another year?You didn't see that.
>>28222554Looks like we made profit on... everything. Not bad.Praise Eurmal!>>28222610I can stick around a while longer if you're up for it, definitely.
>>28222607>>28222618>>28222639Sounds good. Let me fortify myself for the next year and we'll get started.
How do you determine what Battle tactic to use?
>>28222833There's a really fucking complicated system of what beats what made even more complicated by the fact that you have no idea what the enemy is going to do before they do it.
>>28222833You almost always want to charge, so there's that. If you've barely got an army, you want to evade.For everything else, depends. Usually you'll just want to Plunder when attacking, but if you're trying to really fuck up the other tribe you'll kill as many as possible, burn steads or destroy fortifications, in order of ascendancy. You need to have a LOT more attackers than they have defenders to have a chance of working though.
>>28222906Charge wins all day, every day. On the (extremely rare) time that the enemy uses Maneuver, well, you'll probably be running Truesword and the Klanth at that point, which means your Weaponthanes -are going to fuck things up- anyways.
And we're back. Anyone still here, assign clan magic for the year please.
>>282230321 Herds (You must construct more cattle)2 Quests (WE ABSOLUTELY MUST DO A HEROQUEST THIS YEAR)1 War (Fuckdamnit, Horse-Spawn)
>>28223032xx questsx war Save some for luck.
>>28223063>>28223078Alloted and locked.>>28223089We should get some for completing the heroquest.
The year's off to a rousing start; what with our clan head kicking the bucket.
>>28223131Fuck.Do we have another Elmali?
>>28223131Our most suitable replacements. If we were an Orlanth-worshipping clan we could slot Onelisin in since Vingans counts as Orlanthis for most events.As it is, we might consider Jarstakos, he's the clan's best magicman, which will help during the upcoming heroquests.>>28223155Oh yes, you always have more adherents of your chief god than any other.
>>28223179Could we get some details for the better choices?
>>28223179Jarstakos looks reasonably young and, more importantly, he's a follower of Elmal.He shall replace Robasart posthaste.
>>28223229Sure. What in particular? Here's Enfrew's full stat line.
>>28223260Jarstakos, for comparison.
>>28223273i'd do jarstakos cause he's younger and can level up as shit goes on with quests and things
>>28223260>>28223273Jarstakos is a good mage, but not a good leader. Any better Elmali leaders?
>>28223273Baranthos is our best combatant.
>>28223310And Ingard, who's no slouch himself, but is 61.I'd recommend Jarstakos for immediate utility, but I leave it to the tribe to decide.
>>28223310> That combat stat.I like Baranthos's power, and fear that the short-term pick of Jarstakos is unwise. But if everyone else wants him instead...
>>28223332Either Jarstakos or Baranthod
Unless we need their stats immediately for something let's pick a younger member and just let him/her build up
>>2822336835/37 isn't really old. Regardless, it's pretty much a choice between best warrior and best mage, since we want an Elmali.
>>28223397What are the chances of Jarstakos improving at Combat and what are the chances of Baranthos improving at Magic? Is the question we should be asking ourselves.
Rolled 1>>28223358It's pretty much an even split between Jarstakos and Baranthod. The only way to solve this is to ask Eurmal.1=Jarstakos2=Baranthod
>>28223421Pretty much all the good heroquests (not the one we have, the other ones) raise Combat and Magic.Even Elmal Guards The Stead raises both.In other words, we can get both of them up to par soon enough.
>>28223436That settles that.
>>28223436hell yea Eurmal!
>>28223493The followers of the Storm Bull are wise in the ways of fighting hated Chaos. Listen to them.
Without textbox, because the pic is actually pretty cool.
>>28223466Mm, he's got a trustworthy and manly beard. He shall be a fine enough chief.
>>28223512yea lets seriously murder them. PURGE THE CHAOS
>>28223512Agreed. Smite the chaos!
>>28223493AW SHIT, IT'S CHAOS-CLOBBERING TIMESWORDS OUT, PEOPLE, LET'S HACK SOME DEMON SKULLS
>>28223550Throw EVERYTHING WE GOT AT THEM!
>>28223588Yeah, think we'll need to recruit outside the clan... but concerted campaign is honestly the best choice... we need to up our weapon thanage stat.
>>28223588DAMMIT YOU PEOPLE THEY'RE JUST PIGMEN AND BULLBUGGERERS. YOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE TO UROX.
>>28223588God damn it.>>28223598Well, NOW we need to recruit from outside the clan.
>>28223588im going to bed b/c reasonsbut remember to Heroquest this year!
>>28223598Orstalor's being funny, but it's Sea 2, we've got three weaponthanes and a shortage of farmers. What do we do first: Make weaponthanes or send for more carls? We can get ten thanes total.
>>28223646Disreagard farmers acquire weaponthanes
>>28223646Thanes. Fire's the next season and we all know what fucking happens in Fire.
>>28223662>>28223646Agreed, need more thanes. Carls after that.
>>28223662Kinda have to, yeah. We've been having shit luck in battle, which would only be worse if we lack proper troops.
>>282236461.) Thanes are not dead, they're out hunting.- We'll get them back. That said, this IS a great opportunity to recruit a bunch of thanes with far greater action efficiency (10 as opposed to the usual 2-3)2.) We are short farmers. This must not ever EVER EVER EVER happen. Food is all-important. Seriously.MORE FARMERS, NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW.
>>28223695Agreed, we probably also want to pour some magic into war purposes, just in case.
>>28223662>>28223677Of course, there's more than one way to recruit a thane. We now have nine.
>>28223721oh! Okay, then yeah, equal effort between thanes and farmers.
Fire season. We can recruit five more thanes, for a total of fourteen. Or we can do other things, like heroquest or call for farmers.
>>28223721Too late, but yeah, I thought that what happened was the broos fucking assraped our thanes to death.
>>28223781Okay, NOW we need the farmers.
>>28223781If the other thanes ain't dead after all, we should farmer up.
>>28223781Now that we've got thanes, I say farmers first, then quest after that. We can raid in dark for magic as well.
>>28223816Sounds like a plan
>>28223781Could we recruit thanes and farmers with our two actions this season? The farmers will help in earth season, and I don't know if our heroquest has to be in fire.
>>28223781Get. More. Carls.Like yesterday. We need more farmers. Direly. Urgently. Offer them land and sheep (no cattle, that pisses off your hardwdorking carls even more.Carls gonna carl.)
>>28223781Do we -have- to pick between farmers or hero questing? because hero questing is pretty important isn't it?
>>28223840Starvation is top priority shit since you can quickly fall into a starvation spiral that's difficult to get out of.
Fimbulvetr calls for carls. We're offering sheep as well.>>28223833You can heroquest at any time. There are generally times when it's "best" to heroquest, namely when you can't travel. Our tribe doesn't have that issue since we can raid in Dark.
>>28223840We can farmer up in the first half of Fire, then try to heroquest in the second half. Alternatively we can just farmer up both halves of Fire and tough it out until one of the halves of Dark or anytime in Storm to heroquest.
>>28223877I suggest the following:Search our Tula in Fire 2 (we haven't done this in ages)Raid the Old Owls in Dark 1Sacrifice to Orlanth in Dark 2Do Elmal Guards the Stead in Storm-We need to work on getting better heroquest,s because EGtS is a failpile.
Oh hey, Odayla devotees offering to make hunting easier. Seems that most of them are Gorinds (the asshats who raided us last year for no reason) and giving gifts will improve relations.>>28223933We have Issaries the Conciliator, I think.
>>28223933Nigga we don't need EGtS, we got Orlanth and Aroka last year. If we're lucky, we gonna be Klanth soon.
>>28223955Give gifts. Let's not have more enemies than we need.
>>28223955We're kind of lean now. A favor might be better.
>>28223988>We need to work on getting better heroquest,s because EGtS is a failpile.Agreed on Favor. We can't afford the enemies, but we might be able to afford them later if they ask for too much then.
>>28223988>>28224015A favor it is.
>>28224039It's now Fire 2. We can try heroquesting now, or call for more thanes.Who am I kidding? Orlanth and Aroka, take 1!
>>28224074I'm guessing we want a treasure?Actually, who can tell me the myth?
>>28224104Apparently we want a treasure from it. No idea about the myths in this though
>>28224104Orlanth's Kinsman Daga was blighting the land, troubling Ernalda and making her less fruitful.Orlanth promised her he'd go and kill his cousin, for he had quarreled with his kin before.The two men fought but neither could best the other, so Orlanth went to seek Heler, god of rain, to bring bountiful rain back to the earth.Heler had been devoured by the Dragon Aroka, however, and on his quest to free him from the belly of the dragon Orlanth encountered many enemies, beating them and taking something from each.On the way he seduced the Dark Woman, and gave her a gift in turn.Then he found the dragon and used the items he had collected to defeat it and free the god of rain, ending the drought Daga caused.
>>28224129>No idea about the myths in this thoughdis gun b gudHeroquests are interesting. Our champions act out the stories of the gods, but their own abilities are tested. It's possible to fail to follow the myth but succeed anyway. Of course, if you fail a heroquest outright, not only is there a chance your hero will die, there's a chance of wrecking supernatural disaster on Dragon Pass.Orlanth and Aroka is all about ending a drought. Failing the quest has a non-zero chance of starting one.So, what does Orlanth say to Ernalda?
>>28224228one one one>>28224194
>>28224228I know how they work and all, I just never knew how to find out how it's supposed to be solved. With the other anon posting the myth it's all easy though
>>28224228It's either 1 or 2, this is the main part I don't remember anymore.
>>28224228Nephew, right, not cousin. I knew they were related just forgot how.I like three, but one is most accurate to the myth.
>>28224294>I like three, but one is most accurate to the myth.That's the most important part isn't it? If we go trying to change history bad shit happens.
>>28224313Actually it's a little bit more complicated than that. Sometimes, alternate paths work. Sometimes? The "correct" paths DON'T. The game's a bastard like that.
That went well.>>28224194Aha, a lawspeaker. So long as we have you we should be fine, it's not like this is Elmal Guards the Stead.>>28224277When you learn the details of a heroquest, it's added to list of legends you can find in one of the menus. I'll show it off later.>>28224313Sometimes. It can also skip huge sections of one particular quest, or instigate Interesting Times, in the Chinese sense.
>>28224336Three. Now is not the right time to slay Daga.
>>282243364 is the most accurate, I THINK. IIRC Orlanth couldn't overcome Daga at this point.
>>28224356Might be 3. Either way, don't kill the ugly fucker.
>>28224336three three threeAlso Elmal Guards the Stead is so randumb ugh
>>28224356>>28224358>>28224379>>28224381It actually doesn't matter, but three has a chance of leaving your quester in decent shape for the next parts.
>>28224381oh wait changed my mindfour four four
>>28224409Wow, those are awfully specific names! The items named here are among the treasures we can win at the end.
>>28224336>it's not like this is Elmal Guards the SteadYeah, that one is a little troublesome, but so long as you can overcome the monsters at the beginning - usually fine so long as your quester is competent - it's just remembering what lies chaos will tell to Elmal to entice him away from the stead.He must be humble when he's told he would make a great king in Orlanth's place.He must be resolute when faced by the memory of a love once shared.And then he must see the truth, and offer to serve chaos in order to trick the lie-teller into devouring his soul in the form of a fine stallion.>>28224445At this point, Orlanth beat his enemies and took something from each.
>>282244451 is our best choice.
>>28224465>>28224471>>28224497That's rig--oh what the fuck. Never run this with a Vingan before, that's just not RIGHT. And they still use the male portrait too.
>>28224503She should seduce him, to be in better shape to defeat the Dark Woman who she will be unable to seduce as Orlanth did.
>>28224503Pfft, that's new.Kick his ass, the sex comes later.
>>28224526...Is that really how it works with a Vingan?
>>28224503what i dont remember this at all ~~ Q_Q
>>28224545If she feels confident of defeating them all by martial means, then she can try that. But Orlanth seduced one of his enemies, so doing it this way mirrors his progress the best.
>>28224526It's stupid effective.>>28224545Yes.
>>28224503Fuck his brains out. Teach him what it means to be with a warrior woman.
>>28224565Huh. I thought it was SPECIFICALLY the Dark Woman.
>>28224582Silly Anon, women can't seduce women.
>>28224578Well I'll be damned.
>>28224578>secret snake danceYou don't say.
>>28224578Storm Bull, what are you doing. Stahp Storm Bull.This might be lost on some of you, but Storm Bull does not appear in Orlanth and Aroka. That said, there are many stories, and new ones are being made all the time.>>28224599That's forbidden love, Anon.
>>28224578Is it really suggesting that we blinded the dark woman with what I think it's suggesting we did?
>>28224650....4 is a risk. I say we take it.
>>28224650Bring 'em along, what's the worst that can happen. (Probably quite a bit, but IIRC the best choice is indeed to bring him with)
>>28224650I have never gone wrong saying 2 to a storm bull, then letting him beat the piss out of the monsters we inevitably meet next while I moonwalk away.
>>28224650I dont know shit about this game, but I like choice 4, its got moxy
>>28224698Definitely 4. Let's redfine some mythology!
>>28224650Yeah, four I think. We've already twisted the myth slightly by attempting it as a Vingan, so what's changing a few more details?What's the worst that could happen?
I went with four because the response makes me laugh. 2 and 4 are both correct, though. The moral of (this part) of the story is that stories are mutable things, and that's no bad thing. The moral of Orlanth and Aroka is that killing dragons is awesome and does awesome things.>>28224658That depends entirely on what you think fem!Orlanth did to blind the Dark Woman.>>28224722Failing Lhankor Mhy Finds the Truth has a chance of warping the landmarks of Dragon Pass. Even changes it in game!
And suddenly Chaos. What does our girl do about it?
>>28224760one one one~
>>28224740Heh, somebody should compile a list of crazy shit that happens from all the failed heroquests.
>>282247601, this is why we brought him along
>>28224760Our part in this is to fight a dragon, his is to fight Chaos. Let's do our jobs. (that's one)
>>28224760Orlanth is wise as a ruler.Storm Bull is wise in the ways of chaos.Do as Storm Bull says.
>>28224760Run away and scream "rape".
>>28224760Storm Bull's got our fuckin' back, do as he says and let's bumrush that fucking dragon!
We let Storm Bull have his fun.And then our girl rips a dragon in half.This game is so fucking metal.
>>28224813You think that is metal? Humakt the Champion is pure metal through and through.This is more like... marginally covered in metal shavings.
>>28224813And then everyone woke up. But there's something different about one of the props... Which one?
>>28224848Orlanthi runes I think
>Colymar tribe demands cattle every yearHow do I stop this shit?
>>28224848Well, a lot of people wanted the Klanth, so i'm going to vote for that. If we don't get what we went for, why did we ask our God-talker to recite the holy myth to us?
Textboxless image. While Onelisin was seeing the real shit in the spirit realm, the tribe were play acting it here.>>28224846You know, we HAVE a Humakti...
>>28224722KLANTH KLANTH KLANTHTHEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN
>>28224865It's actually whatever we look at first.>>28224888In this case, we wanted the Klanth of Orlanth.>>28224886Hire more thanes and raid them until they offer tribute.
>>28224848the bag with troll runes on it, itll stop our enemies from escaping our warriors
>>28224848Take bread. Get more magic. Take Klanth. Get better charges.Either way, do Orlanth & Aroka again soonlike and get the other one.
>>28224848gotta go for that klanth
>>28224932>Fighting a tribeWon't they wreck me?
>>28224848i'd do breadddd though my 2nd choice would be klanth
>>28224915This. We need that fucking Klanth.
>>28224906So did he actually go into the spirit realm, or did he just stagger around like he was blasted out of his mind while everyone tried to stay out of his way and acted the parts?
>>28224932Whoops. Here it is.>>28224940Only if you don't have enough weaponthanes. Try building a shrine with the Truesword ritual, that'll make them even better.
>>28224947most likely both
>>28224947i like to imagine the latter where hes just a doofus
>>28224933>escape from usYeah, because THAT's our problem...
>>28224947Now see, that's the thing about Glorantha. A lot of things are both one thing and another, especially concerning the gods.So both a wave and a particle. She most likely acted out her part in the play, but if things had gone wrong...
>>28224932so when we do this a second time do we want more magic at harvest time or berserker powers?
What foul sorcery is this? More cottars than children.
>>28224983magic bread yohaving a regular source of magic is really useful
Oh hey, it's our Western neighbors with the massive tula. Charge!>>28224983Splendorbread is my choice, though I'd love to pick up the Bag of Winds.
>>28225038With the Klanth, why would you ever NOT charge?
>>28225038Let's see how they fare against a clan with Orlanth's favour! Charge! Kill as many as possible to teach those curs a lesson!
>>28225054No idea. Shit, even WITHOUT the klanth I charge nearly every time and am generally successful.But I do like when you can combine the klanth with the humakt sword that kills the fuck out of people and just go full murdertown on your enemies' faces.
>>28225075They outnumber us, trying to kill them is more likely to fail.This went quite poorly. Wonder what we did to piss them off? Still though, they paid with weaponthanes.Oh hey, forgot to mention it earlier, but completing that heroquest scored us five extra magic.
>>28225118Both, which is why deviating from the story can lead to bad things, because then the people around you can't play their parts.
>>28225096Combine enough blessings and treasures and you can take on the world. I remember having one clan who was getting paid tribute by almost everybody. After a few years I had far, far more cows than I knew what to do with. Absolutely sick.
>>28225132During dark we raid the shit out of them. Forget stealing stuff, we're going to cull them down to the point they can't fight us anymore.
>>28225132Dang, should've spent a bit of that magic on a battle buff. Too late now.>>28225159This is a good idea, though. They're burning us out instead of looting, so we need to be murdering them.
>>28225159How are we able to raid during dark? Do we have some sort of treasure, or blessing?
It's now Earth season. We've got enough farmers, maybe we want to take on a few more weaponthanes?This is the background screen. It shows the stories you know, as well as setting information. I might go into it more at a later date.Okay, we're autosaging. Should I start a new thread?>>28225196A blessing for choosing the ice demons as our ancestral foe.
>>28225196Anyone can raid during Dark, it's just risky. We find it easier because our ancient enemies were the ice tribes.Right?>>28225214Right.We'll probably make the end of the year, won't we?Sacrifice to Urox for smite evil and hope our thanes come back safe from fighting those broo, maybe?
>>28225244>Sacrifice to Urox for smite evil and hope our thanes come back safe from fighting those broo, maybe?this.Also hire more crafters. Let's up that production so we can give more gifts.
How do treasures work? Do they have a limited number of uses?
>>28225266>How do treasures work? Do they have a limitedSome do, yeah, others give passive bonuses, others are basically just useful as valuable trade goods.
>>28225266Some do, some are unlimited. I think most of them tell you. The bull we start with obviously will die of old age at some point so we traded him away.
>>28225244Let's do that then. We can decide about a new thread after this year.A sacrifice of cows to Storm Bull was favorably received. Orstalor reminds us that he's a Trickster.>>28225266Some randomly break, and living ones can die of old age. Most provide a passive effect and remain so long as we have them.
>>28225342Unfortunately, it seems it was too late to help much. Still, we should be okay for a year.
>>28225342some are conditionally unlimited, there were these magic fire arrows we had that sucked up a free magic point every time we used them in another thread.
>>28225373Wait, did we lose ALL the thanes we sent out? Damnit.
>>28225373Horse-Spawn. Chaos. Random jackasses. And now the fucking ELVES?! Jesus Christ, we're fighting everyone BUT the ice demons.
>>28225373>Wait, did we lose ALL the thanes we sent out? Damnit.next time we call in outside help.
>>28225411Whoops, was shaking with rage.
>>28225434Set up patrols, we'll be needing them anyway. Against more than just elves.
>>28225434>Around elves, watch yourselves.png
>>28225411>>28225434Hey, you know what would be a great idea right about now? Let's go find some ducks and raid the shit out them.
>>28225434Our magic is strong, we can afford a divination or lifting a curse.
>>28225464This man's common sense deserves a seat as clan head.
>>28225464Thirded. Motion carried. Let's go raid some ducks.That said, set up some goddamn patrols.
>>28225510Patrols will do nothing since Elves are masters of stealth.
>>28225476I'm going to intervene and say that we need to lift this guy's curse. 4 magic is a high price, but the event can fuck up the carls, who are already displeased with us.
>>28225491>it's like I'm voting for a U.S. president again!
>>28225529wouldn't it work against other threats though?
>>28225434The best option here is to send out a war party.
>>28225543fine. But let's go raid the assholes who raided us (stag heads) or ducks.Or those guys who kept at us for stuff.Or do something else to improve the carls liking us. Getting more crafters or appeasing a god of crafting could be fun.
>>28225543Would probably have helped if you'd scrolled to show the bit about the curse at all, rather than 'randomly spend magic on curse-breaking for no apparent reason'. But sure, we'll take your word for it.
>>28225546the threat here is clearly Elves. Since we need to protect against Elves stepping up patrols will not affect the rest of the events in the game.
>>282255904chan strikes again
>>28225590Some guy in /k/ is gonna be really confused.
>>28225590why do we see a gun?
Whoops, this event. Some of our carls aren't happy with us.All right you lot, confess. Who started spreading dissention in the ranks? It was you wasn't it, Anon 5464?>>28225590...what.
>>28225373This is what happens if you don'T explore your Tula. You get fucking broos EVERYWHERE.Moral of the story: Explore the tula once every year. EVERY year.
>>28225629FRequest her to step down. We need to appease the carls desperately.
>>28225617Elmal teaches us to hold honour and duty sacred above all. These disingenuous assertions shame the guardian-god of our clan.
>>28225657Bingo. We're calling her on this.
Honestly I thought the M1A was OP's response to us bickering. One way to shut up dissension, that's for sure.
Earth 2. Maybe we should explore the tula?>>28225704Are you kidding, I fucking love it. Makes me feel that I'm not talking to an echo chamber, like I was the first few hours.
>>28225725I agree just hope we don't run into any dragonewts.
>>28225725Good idea, especially with all the damn broos around that killed out warriors.
>>28225766>>28225795The Humakti takes three thanes and ten farmers into the woods...And we're rich!
And we're fucked.
>>28225853I know we have that funky sword now, but uh. Time to survive, isn't it?
>>28225853Survive and Evade
>>28225868Neatly summarizes my feelings on the subject.All things considered, that went quite well.
Dark season. We're going to raid the SHIT out of the Stag Hearths. Or should we get more than 7 thanes first?
Is it possible to win this god damn game? Also, how do you figure out what you're supposed to do on hero quests? I bought this game but I'm so lost on some of it.
>>28225948Probably wanna recruit more, but if others think we dont need to then commence the raids
>>28225961If we have more than 12 warriors, raidin' time.>>28225953I think the 'end goal' is to become high king... we're no where fucking close.
>>28226012looks like we have 7, so recruit then raid
>>28225953It's entirely possible to win, but the game is not newbie friendly. Try reading up on the heroquests in the background screen, the second button from the left. Follow the stories as close as you can and you'll should pass.>>28225961>>28226012I hired six more thanes from outside the clan, leading to a total of thirteen. We'll have fifteen when the wounded recover.In the meantime, looks like our hunters will contribute extra food for a year or two.
We've been handed a chance to do away with a favor for cheap,
>>28226096Give more than he wants, if custom is 20. Be generous to the guy who asks for less and not more than custom like those other fuckers
>>28226135agreed, give more.We need friends right now, desperately.
>>28226135Also after that we need to murder the fuck out of the dudes that burnt our stead.
>>28226160And everyone agreed it was good.
>>28226177Carls, relieved? oh shit
>>28226210Good. Gooooood.Let's dust these puppies. Don't go for looting. Go for Killing as many fuckers as we can, be sneaky about it if you can, but if you can't, forget it. Pump -all- of our remaining magic into it. We don't need it for the rest of the year probably.
>>28226232Yeah but we keep magic, and it is good to have lots of points. I'd never spend more than two or three on a single battle.
>>28226232>>28226269Wait... does unused magic expire, or carry over?
Orlanth banzai!They technically outnumber us, trying to kill is likely to backfire.>>28226288Carries over.
>>28226299I say plunder for now. Hopefully we'll kill some thanes and be able to hit them again soon to kill more/burn em out.
>>28226299Burn steads since future attacks will be easier
Enfrew has Very Good Combat and Leadership.>>28226385Next time, after we enshrine Truesword.
>>282264073! 3!and yeah, we enshrine Truesword. We need to burn out some fuckers, teach them to mess with us in future.
>>282264073, let's rely more on tactics than brute force.
>>28226425I agree with this guy!
>>28226504Excellent. That's the year, innit?
>>28226504WE ARE THE WHITE VOID. WE ARE THE COLD...BRONZE. THE END HAS COME!
>>28226529I think we still have storm season. Shall we rek them again?
It's Storm season now. Inclement weather might prevent off-tula expeditions. We should consider enshrining Truesword, or hiring yet more weaponthanes. Or going to look for a certain black banner...
>>28226555Better to build a shrine at the start of a year, get more benefit from it before we need to pay upkeep. Hire a few more thanes is my vote.
>>28226555Enshrine Truesword first, then more thanes.Really, if we need to enshrine the blessing first why the hell hadn't we done this already?
>>28226555I say go for truesword. It'll help for defending as well right? Worth it.
>>28226555> going to look forWait, is there another quest-thing we can do? We DID spend a bunch of magic on that, after all...
>>28226607Heroquests are risky business. Even putting a bunch of magic towards it and doing all the right steps, you can still die.And I think our chances plummet on any quests after the first every year.Exploring, though, exploring we can do.
>>28226584There are two ways to get the benefits of a god's miracle: to sacrifice for it and to enshrine it. Enshrining it makes the benefit permanent, so long as you can pay the temple's upkeep, while a benefit you sacrificed for lasts a year.>>28226607Not quite. Not only can you explore your own territory, you can explore the rest of Dragon Pass. You meet distant neighbors (like the Marsh Ducks) and uncover impressive treasures, of which the Raven Banner is one.
>>28226660Well, let's do that, then. Good way to round out the year.
>>28226676I dunno, isn't the Raven Banner of limited practical use because it eats one of your clan ring members when used?
>>28226721Only if you use it all the time. So long as you use it sparingly you can usually convince ordinary thanes to carry it.I think.
>>28226580I like the cut of your jib. Thanes first. We have 19 now.>>28226653>>28226676Then exploration. We get Truesword at the start of the year.We're being raided by the Greydogs, the sons of bitches.
>>28226767We outnumber them. Kill them all.
>>28226767Look at those numbers.Kill as many as we possibly can.
>>28226780>>28226783Death to them all.Onelisin sees a friend cut down by them. What does she do? (Excellent Combat, Very Good Leadership).
>>282268485, those fuckers are going down!
>>28226848FIGHT BRAVELY or INSANE RISKS, whichever you prefer.
>>28226848This is our successful heroquester we're talking about here. She can fuck them up.... but 2, not 5. We're winning anyway, she doesn't need to turn the tide on her own.
>>28226848Insane risks HO!
>>28226875>>28226884Justice and revenge. Great work, Onelisin.
>>28226943My only regret is that we lack a shrine to Maran Gor. She would greatly enjoy the sacrifice of these dogs.
>>28226978>16 dead>43 woundedMan, they're going to have a rough planting season.
>>28226978Anybody else notice how nonlethal these battles seem to be? We got 200+ man battles and usually come out with less than 20 casualties... that's INCLUDING wounded mind you, on both sides.
>>28226997Yeah, that's relatively normal. Especially since most battles AREN'T fought with the aim of taking as many heads as possible, if you noticed.
>>28226997To be fair, that's reasonably realistic. Actual fatalities seldom came as high as 10%, and if they did, then that force was said to be "decimated".
>>28226995>>28226997We're up to 20(!) weaponthanes. Should we send an expedition out of the tula, for fame and fortune?
>>28227029Sure, why the hell not.
>>28227029That's the plan.
And they're off. We might consider learning Vinga's Pathfinder ritual, which will make exploring much safer.
>>28227080I can dig that, but this one's already off and we need Truesword enshrined before that.
The who? Oh right, the guys we beat the shit out of for being thrall takers year before this one.
We are not actually low on farmers, but fifty odd of ours are out with colds or injured. Still something to consider for the upcoming year.
We'd be down people too, if it weren't for the massive farmer summoning ritual we performed in the middle of the year.
>>28227161We should make those two shrines right at the beginning of the year, then explore our tula.Truesword first, then Barnatar
The omens for next year. This is where we'll pick up next time--maybe tomorrow?Thanks for playing, anyone who's still here.>>28227176Have to learn one of his rituals first, but sure.
>>28227176This sounds good to me, magic into war and exploring, get those shrines, and explore/rek shit.Unless we still need the mystery of the exploring ritual. then i dunno
>>28227196The omens I mentioned and failed to post. See you tomorrow, I hope.
>>28227196*yawns*Prolly stayed up too late, but I had fun. Never seen this game before, looks cool. Catch you again later.
>>28227196Thanks for leading us through a couple of reasonably successful years, chief. I'll definitely see if I can catch tomorrow if another thread goes up.
>>28227210Aw, hell, a poor harvest. Maybe a sacrifice to ERNALDA this year is in order.Rest well, oh glorious OP.