Rolled 52Last time in Mutant Hivemind quest we saw the wrath of ghoulish hordes. Which sorta wiped out the ENTIRE Eastern Marsh...nothing left after that. We also tried out a new parasite that attacks zombies and discovered much to our horror that it backfired on us. We were nearly wiped out if not for the timely intervention of Richard. Now however what it was knows about us...and it hungers.Now however we got bigger problems.WARNING HUGE zombies hordes detected.Increased presence of Super Mutant Mobile Bases detected.Enemy Bandits are rallying their forces in opposition.Ghouls have unleashed MASSIVE numbers of ferals into the swamp.Monster presence continues to build. Deep Monster Mayhem will begin in Unknown period of time. The coalition representatives are still present.
Rolled 99>>27553611EDE Research Facility>>>>>>Food: Low>>>>>>Water: good>>>>>>Morale: Average>>>>>>Armaments level: Very Low>>>>>>reputation level: [REDACTED] so evil not even an A.I. can state just how so...>>>>>>Infrastructure: Fast Breeder Reactor(online) Biofuel Emergency Generators. Biofuel purifier. Biofuel Production Facility+. Barracks. Private Quarters. Storage labs(glowing flowers, finger biter fish, experimental fluids). Medbay. Laboratory. Workshop. Armory. biology splicing chamber. biotech research labs. biostorage facility. Psionic research department. A.I. Core. chemical warehouse. Secure warehouse. Holding cells. Holding tanks. Offices. Data Storage. Super Computers. Bionics lab. Cloning facility(occupied). Nanite bed(busted). Broodnest. Lovenest+. Crystal Grove. Swarm Vats. Sac Nest. Egg Garden+. >>>>>>Defenses: Reinforced Buildings. Reinforced Gate. sand bags. Two bunkers. walled compound. sensor tower, Death Trap. Defense systems Online. Ghoulish Reaver Defense Matrix. >>>>>>vehicles:1 Digga Drilla. 0 bandit spider tanks(biofuel) 0 Paramilitary spider tank(runs on biofuel). 0 plasma thrower spider tank(biofuel). 0 laser battery spider tank(biofuel). 3 transports crawlers(biofuel). 9 siege mk1.2 tanks. 2 'metal rain' artillery. 5 swamp walkers. 1 booty tap trap layer. 3 Piercing Demon(BIG holes small target) 4 Plasma Baby(YOU SAID RADIATION IS BAD FOR YOU) 3 BOOM-town( you said WHAT) 4 Bloody Bandit(Extra bloody and BEATTA) 3 Paramilitary Supreme(I can't hear you over the sound of how AWESOME I am) 0 doom buggies. 0 bombardier (if you thought boomtown had boom you don’t know BOOM) 2 Forsaken Bandit (When solo go FORSAKEN) Hover craft(limited). Hilly Billy(Limited). >>>>>>Power: Fast breeder reactor(infinite...damned ghouls), emergency biofuel generators, 10 mini reactors>>>>>>materials: concrete, plastic, acid flesh and rock, Industrial chemicals, medical supplies. rusted metal.
Rolled 86>>27553640>>>>>>Weapons: Pistols, Assault Rifles, Grenades, rifles, Traitorous Battle Rifles very limited, sniper rifles, smg, shotguns, flame thrower, mono knives, stun batons, spears, elemental spewers very limited (flame acid, electric, plasma mk1). Elemental Variants/ammo. heavy weaponry basic. Psionic Railgun(crude). Hilly Billy weapons(limited).>>>>>>armor: Environmental protection body armor. mk 2 power armor(limited 20 suits),125 Marauder plate. Chamleze body armor(100 suits). Hilly Billy Armor(limited).>>>>>>Technology: Super Advanced biolabs, Complex A.I. flower research(complete), spider tank conversion, Hydra, Super Spider Tanks(Markus edition), serum mutant. Mutagen Serum. Psi crystals. SpiderBorgs. Psionic tech(crude). >>>>>>psionics: Hivemind, Mind blank, Nexus ME, Overmind, Hive to Hive, No Limits. Wrath. Psionic Stealth.>>>>>>communications: hivemind, short range radio, Overmind>>>>>>Mutations: Base, Hivemind. Toughness.Memor 2800Strong Arm 1500Vizen 1600Buggers 1500Rix 1400Viroz 1500Mulic 900Ortor 900Tectus 400
>>27553611>HUGE zombies hordes detected.Where? Which direction?>Increased presence of Super Mutant Mobile Bases detected.Why don't they just leave us alone. . .>Enemy Bandits are rallying their forces in opposition.>Ghouls have unleashed MASSIVE numbers of ferals into the swamp.What do our new allies have to say about this? Which bandits on the map are our enemies and why? If I recall the Sentients ghouls don't mind us controlling/manipulating ferals so long as we don't trade them like currency.>Monster presence continues to build. Deep Monster Mayhem will begin in Unknown period of time. Here we go again. . .
Rolled 31>>27553665New base Unamed.(feel free to throw one out there)Max pop 25000(5000 Security Depot+Burk's Bunker)Current Pop 6000>Food: Excess>Water: good>Morale: Average>Armaments level: Good(paramilitary/Black Ops)>Weapons:Pistols. assault rifles. Grenades. Sniper rifles. Shotguns. Smg. Mono trench knives. Elemental Weaponry MK 3. Heavy Weaponry Advanced. >Armor: Containment Sealed Power Armor Mk 1.50. Stealth Power Armor Mk 1.5. Experimental HyCyBo Power Armor. Combat Armor mk 2.5. Scout Armor mk 2.0. Infrastructure: Ammo depot. Parts Warehouses. Garage. Vehicle Bay. Target Practice. Virtual Training Lab. Barracks(Massive). Officer quarters(Deluxe). Morale Bar(and more). Mess Hall. Farms. Gym. Medical Bay(elite).>Defenses: Defense Matrix. Omega Class Bunker network. Burrower Deterrence system. Quarantine Kill Release. Detection System Network Experimental (specialized Counter)>Vehicles:250 hovers. 250 Walkers. 500 Bug vehicles. 500 Spider vehicles. 500 wheeled vehicles. 50 choppers. 25 VertibirdsAll military grade.>Technology: Advanced Military Spec. Experimental Security Network. Brain Jacking. >Communication: Personal Coms. Black grade security encrypted network. Long Range Radio. Satellite Linkup. Pop Specifics1000 Super Soldiers Dr. Volk edition4000 ghoul1000 Spec Ghoulsghouls are currently in the security depot overhauling/repairing it. Month 167>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice7 Resource points.
btw, I know that the super mutants are semi-hivemind. but do they have any Connection to SWH?
>>27553781Actually they were SWH's original enemies from before the end of the world. Their descendants of the old world military from before the fall. They've been fighting her for centuries.If anything they're the only ones besides us not corrupted from her in anyway shape or form
>>27553770Just call it Base 02.You know, for all that Memor are clever clogs, we are an unimaginative lot when it comes to naming cities.
Rolled 32>>27553705Huge Zombies hordes are detected everywhere...only problem is ALL the nearby ones are heading in our direction and you know that GIGANTIC zombie hive? Its spewing forth even more zombies heading right towards us. A.I. Burk has alerted me that he has detected massive zombie presence underground. The bandits that are still red are hostile. Other bases have turned purple to represent their new allegiance. Ghouls explain that the massive number of ferals being pushed out by the ghouls is an attempt to fuck with zombies.
>>27553853>The bandits that are still red are hostile. I'm guessing those are the guys who didn't show up to the coalition meeting.Damn, I'm hoping we can offer a tribute of fuel for some kind of nonagression deal. We don't need more problems.
>>27553770suggestion for base name. base "Foresight" or "stepping stone" to reflect that we have learned and it's only the start.>>27553810Oh, but then I will assume that it would be safe to actually use a modified version of the parasite versus them? I know that I pushed the parasite hard the last time. But the supermutants don't pose the Psychic risk that SWH does. So they would be an ideal target for the parasite. just saying.Proposing1. scavenge2. improve base , make fleshvats where we extract biological matter from the swamp passively and reform it, either into food, possible fuel or material for fleshbeasts.3. take the digga drilla, novaks etc etc to set up tons of traps and ambushes for the zombies, we need to thin the horde. If we got spare fuel we couldfor example dig trenches that we fill with fuel, then let a sizeble Group of zombies cross Before we ignite it, cutting them off from the rest of the horde and then exterminate them in manageable numbers. this way we could possibly try to flush out the underground zombies too by strategic digging and flooding the tunnels with fire.mad science: have Richard work on offensive nano-bots. selfreplicating swarms of nano-bots that hunt zombies (or other designated targets)
Rolled 87>>27553919They did show up and their reps are still around even.
>>27553971Ah, well. let us approach them to try to get them to join us, the ones closer to us are the prioritised.Let us offer protection from the zombies in co-ordination. We all share our information, what is effective, what is not etc to better be able to fight them. We also offer a fallback Point if they should be overrun and sanctuary as our people. And you know, other Incentives.
>>27553936All psionic users pose the risk of being overcome by She Who Hungers, especially now that she's learned how to hijack the parasite. On top of that it's been proven her brute strength can overcome any logical failsafes we attempt.>>27553971"Bandits, do you not see the very ground teems with the common enemy that is the zombies? Surely you can see that, whereas we still offer the olive branch and promise of cooperative prosperity, the zombies do not see as you more than food. We see you are mobilizing your forces. Let it be known that if we meet it is in our every desire to fight alongside your troops, not against them, against this common foe. Surely you see the every downside there is in hostility between our forces">>27554019We tried that last thread. They think we're not strong enough yet and want to test us. We will prove ourselves in time
>>27554019Oh if you mean cooperation, even they won't join, then by all means yes.
exactly :) and when they benefit from our assistance and see how much more effective when we organize they will be more keen on the whole joining up with is part.
>>27553936We had nanites, but they were incredibly rare and extremely dangerous. Far too many times we were nearly been killed by that gone wrong (such as a Grey Goo scenario, basically they eat our entire base in moments). Even Richard nearly lost his life in a bad accident. We had to destroy our nanite beds.Plus, that kinda tech has been around for centuries and somebody would've thought of it by now.But that is still a pretty good use of imagination.
>>27554080I have another plan for getting them to join of their own accord as well. But we need peace.Now is the time for war, and I don't want it to be with the bandits.
>>27554091hmm, ok. lets change it to sonic cannons that disrupt and confuse the focus of zombies and other creatures, (preferable with settings depending on the enemy) that we can put by the battlefield to make the enemies less coherent and effective. (It would also be great as a deterrent seeing as people and monsters usually try to get away from the painful sound so we could use it to try to drive away monsters from where we don't want them into where we want them 8[among the enemy])
>>27554172Yes the infrasonic subwoofers, I proposed that last thread to work in conjunction with Silent Megaphones to debilitating effect. It's likely a lot monsters might be immune to sound or hunger would drive them forward, so psionics would fit here.I'd like that to work in tandum, but for now Psionic research is a bit dangerous until we can set up a safe lab in the wastes away from our base.
>>27554091and If we still maybe have some of the nanites in some sealed containers we could possibly drop some of them on the supermutant bases to let them go grey goo there,Also, have we tried approaching the supermutants about the zombies? If the supermutants aren't fans of SWH they would probably love to join in on the fight against her.
Rolled 27Two new bandit heroes have joined us.Witch Luna an unusual female hero who even bandits dread. Its said even Reavers come to her for 'consultations'. bonus to Banditry bonus to negotiation Mojo- Witch has special abilities that mimic psionics yet are not.Magic Juice- Enhances the drinkerCursed Brew- Poison and worse. Welcome to my Garden- Receives a bonus when on home ground and enemies are penalized.Warlord Slag an older 'retired' warlord. Came out to the swamp for one last pillaging yet somehow ended up sticking around and adopting a bunch of fresh-meat bandits who would of died if it wasn't for him. Free military actionFree banditry action Old ass bastard- has seen much and more.Retired Badass- If you thought badesses are AWESOME you clearly have never seen a one who managed to live to retirement. Way of War- Has special strategic insights.
>>27554209Use the free military action to set traps and ambushes for the zombies. Use free bandit action to conduct a small raid on the human cities where we stealthily plant some eggs for various fleshbeasts etc for them to procreate there and then be of future use.
>>27554208That'd probably not work, the swamp has healed over nanites before and they're very expensive.The supermutant militar factiosn hate all fleshbeasts and fleshbroods. And we've got a huge brood going on, as well as our own Broodmother Clora.They won't accept her and they won't accept us.
Rolled 48>>27554019>>27554048You are not strong enough we can handle zombies easily enough. As for the downsides are nothing if we get to have some fun and get rich. >>27554208The supermutants fucking HATE you so goddamn much. You sorta burned that bridge down and more a long time ago.
>>27554270They don't need to accept us. they just need to realize the bigger evil (and danger) that is SWH and then focus on her. The enemy of my enemy is my friend doesn't really need to be true, but I'm sure they realize the folly of messing with those that are fighting your great enemy.
>>27554209Excellent. We'll have to put those to use asap.In the meantime I have a proposal to deal with the hives, I'll elaborate in a next post.>>27554246Flesbheasts are birthed in the broodnest. We could research eggs, but it's likely they still will have a hard time surviving in the city as there are still dangers there.
>>27554303As far as they are concerned we ARE she who hungers forces. All fleshbeats are equally despised in their eyes. We're the great enemy.>>27554282"Think though, would you rather have "some" fun and riches, raiding our little bases. Sure you get what ever scraps we can offer.We can promise you more fun beyond even your experience, and riches beyond your wildest dreams. We are not asking for your support, or your cooperation, but time to prove it."
>>27554306>Plan East/RightWe send a major force from our base against the great zombies hive. Our allies and the ghouls (who have promised to help whenever we are planning to purge zombies) will drive the entire hive toward our forces entrenched and reinforced by artillery direct from our base. If things get too bad, we have our allies retreat from their positions and reinforce central army as we fall back.>Plan west/leftSimilar. We ask the Ghouls if we can reinforce one of their bases. Then our forces also drive them toward it, and we make a stand.In addition, the expected paths of the zombies will be mined and webbed and trapped by our spiders and spiderborg forces lying in wait.Any objections or alternate plans are welcome.
>>27554282>>27554348Hmm, maybe we could let them "intercept some top secret messages" that indicate that we (SWH) are conducting a vital project that will increase our Power manyfold and pose a great risk to the supermutants. This Project will be located in a location among SWHs forces, the project will be reaching a critical point which would cause the super mutants to need to strike fast and decisively there to stop it from coming to fruition.
>>27554397Assuming we can do that and they won't sniff a lie like that in seconds, where would we lead them? What happens once they find out it was all a ruse?
>>27554390sounds pretty good. how about we Contact the marauders and ask if they want in on this as well? We will supply the fuel they would use up ofc, and they could drop fuelbombs, which would mean all they have to lose as long as they maintain a high altitude is some time. They could also possibly bomb the hive this way and cause damage or destroy it (depending on how the hive is made up and how flameable it is)
>>27554445One bombing a year, and we used that up already. In addition we gave away half our high grade fuel (i'm presuming their planes came and took it) and we need to restocpile.
Rolled 21>>27554348"You want our support you earn it the bandit way but you are not true bandits and you are weak. So basically go fuck yourselves and your shitty pact.">>27554445You have only 1 bomb run still availabe for the rest of the year.In any case what is the consensus?
>>27554436we could lead them to hives or deeper into SWHs terrain, and if we make the message impy that the best/easiest way to stop the Project (possibly due to some failsafes etc) would be to just destroy the area completely them finding out afterwards is a moot point. And seeing as how supermutants hate fleshbeasts and the like, I don't Think they would be able to very much tell the difference between a normal zombie hive etc and one where they have a special Project. and even if they do discover aren't we already their great mortal enemy that must be vanquished no matter what. Atleast this way they woul suffer losses and attract some of SWHs Wrath away from us towards them Before (if now that they fight SWH more) they strike us.
>>27554462We have 2 per year due to giving 2/3 instead.>>27554487So they would not agree to fight a common threat while we also supply the extra fuel etc they expend? :/ darn.
Rolled 22>>27554537You actually get 1 bomb run a year inexchange for regular refueling. That two runs was due to them being desperate for fuel.
>>27554513Maybe, but I still think they're smarter than that. Plus they could just scout there and find out it was all a hoax.
Expanded planGonna think of what we should do for actions as well
>>27554568How are they going to scout the inside of a hive? That's called attacking.And if they don't fall for it they just continue as earlier. Really, what do we have to lose? And we have Everything to gain. We could also set up some kind of scenario where they get the information, maybe sacrificing 10-20 memor or something for the greater good by having them be posted in a new outpost in a Place we know the supermutants will find them and have that info there, with other non-vital but true and easily comfirmed info that we don't mind them knowing.
>>27554618>How are they going to scout the inside of a hive?Our tectus and heroes have done it before.And they are supermutants, they have a strange powerful and swift force of infantry that managed to wreck our SST's somehow.
>Zombies are attacking us because they're under SWH influence, She has a deal with some of the sentient-psionic-director ones>We woke her up with the Psy-Field>Then we got her specific attention with the parasite By the way, if we use the parasite on anything else will take over them too. It works thus: a sentient has an automatic resistance to being psionically dominated, the parasite subdues them by physical means, then SWH only has to dominate a simple cattle-like mind to control the sentients >Anyway, we're being attacked by zombies and there's a small extremely advanced (and as-yet uncontacted) faction to our North East that's been doing research on the zombies since we've been in the swamp.>Just saying
Rolled 1>>27554640Unfortunately for that user their currently get their shit stomped if the panicked screams on the coms are anything to go on. Plus the zombies tend to avoid them for some reason.
>>27554694Shit, looks like I'm gonna have to rewrite my plan
>>27554640yes... we should probably Contact them... didn't It bypass and not subdue the resistance? the reason that SWH used the parasites to attack us was because she was already in Control of the pre-existing zombie hivemind. EDE can correct me if I'm wrong.>>27554630Still, what are the downsides? And the scouts still have to recognize a zombie Project, we can just say that the hive is learning making alterations to make super duper zombies. or make all zombies able to copy themselves, or be more resistant to whatever and it would be nigh impossible for them to find out wether it's true or not.
Rolled 90>>27554694...Apparently the zombies have stopped ignoring them as well. Poor bastards.
>>27554694we should try to send assistance with some kind of deal, assist them or try to get some of them to safety, ofcourse we'd also like to save any information they have on the zombies.
>>27554710You strapped something psionically sensitive (it would've been bad enough it they were just inert) onto the zombies brain. SWH didn't have control over their hivemind (unless you didn't get what EDE was hinting at with those conversations between sentient-psionic-director zombies [including Carl] last thread) She had made them a deal. THEN we came along an put tiny little brains in control of much bigger and stronger brains. She took advantage of this and hijacked their hivemind/the minds of the infected and poured that rage and strength into breaking ours.
Rolled 45>>27553770>Basic 1Feed our 3 matriarchs 3 resources for 15 Borg ST's. Then send them out and their usual contingent of thousands of spiderlings and several Tectus and Rix to lay traps, mines, webs, and scorched earth tactics for the two sites as per described in map>Basic 2Irewin and our Ghoul forces go to lower west/left ghoul camp per the map to prepare to hold a stand against the incoming great zombie hive we will be sending at her>Basic 3Gather Resources, we shall need them in the turns to come>MilitaryRamona prepares our army of SST's to make a major stand against the huge hive that we will be sending toward her, as well as sending in some spiders>BanditWarlord Slag prepare to lead bandit allies 2 zombie hive to the west, and Luna from the far east on the great hive as described in map
>>27554710>>27554808So please stop with your hard-on for the parasites.
>>27554815*send out the ST's, not the Matriarchs. We keep those safe at our base.
>>27554815Correction, Alexis is not with Irewins group defending but actually in the forrest between the two western hives, preparing skirmish and attrition tactics.
Rolled 72You are Carl currently your kicking some science ass if the panicked screams of the researchers are anything to go by. At least you were supposed to you didn't really have to do anything as the some experimental subjects broke free doing all the work for you. So you kinda just snooping around in between taking down the occasional guard. Who have some really kickass armor goddamn you actually had to stop trying to shoot them because it didn't do anything. Ah well if only you could find where that delicious scent was coming from...its been a long time since you smelt something that good. Especially considering you can't munch too many zombies. Hah this is sorta boring...then you heard a shriek followed by sudden quite then rumbling. Well looks like whatever it is they do to dissuade zombies isn't working any more. Ah damn now your gonna have to hurry about finding that meal. Man this was only supposed to be a quick pit stop on your way home for a quick bite to eat.
>>27554815Sounds like a good plan, except we haven't scouted our enemies, we have very few forces, we won't get the "on-home-turf" bonus of our new hero, the zombies will probably ambush us from below once we've dedicated our forces, and SWH is undoubtedly marshaling some as-yet-unknown forces underground that would take our bases while our troops were gone.Also, sending out the BorgSTs. They're not numerous or upgraded enough to be useful in the battle, but their loss will significantly eat into reproduction rates for the BorgSTs as a whole.
>>27554880Not really. It's the mothers who can do all the work.We can make 5 BorgST's with 1 resource on the mothers alone, and we don't have the number for the bonus.For now they're expendable.Also this is merely preparation phase, we're not going to attack this turn. Simply preparing our forces. and of course we're going to scout the shit out of everywhere.
Rolled 28>>27554880....Where have you been earlier smart anon?
>>27554867I really Think we should send a strikeforce to try to assist or rescue some of them. a few of those scientists on our side would benefit us greatly.
>>27554899Oh, I've been around. I'm the one who always gets his advice ignored.
>>27554907I try to listen as best I can.
>>27554896No, the regular BorgSTs gather resources for/protect the matriarchs. The matriarchs themselves are capable of hunting but are primarily reproducer-units. That is, of course when they have enough BorgSTs to do the resource collecting.
>>27554907yeah, If you've made some of the posts I Think you have, you are a voice of reason. But yes, sending out too many troops into uncertain territory wouldn't be smart, setting up traps etc could be fine though.And for the hives. Why don't we try making the supermutants attack them first? And since we've apparently managed to infiltrate hives before do so again, and this time maybe set off some kind of bomb, maybe the entropy virus in the middle of the hive, that should clear it out.
>>27554931True enough. But then again, the BorgST's are only going to be hleping laying traps. If they're precious, we simply have them fall back while the thousands of spiderlings and our skirmishers slow the zombie hives down and fall back as well.We'll keep them safe where we can. We're not thrusting them to battle.
>>27554957Which is why we'll be ensuring we're not uncertain about the territory via scouting, that way if something is amiss we can quickly redraw a plan to adapt to the new danger.Also I'd rather not lead the supermutants anywhere near our base. Because the next thing they'll be after they get the hives, is us.
>>27554957We've actually not managed to infiltrate a hive consistently, I don't know why someone thought we had. I think Alexis might've done it on her introduction/a roll of 100.If we pull the supermutants over to near our base then they'll smash us. That is, unless SWH gets some reason to want them dead more than us and sends the zombies after them. This is a distinct possibility if we can capture some of their psionic operatives (not likely) and manage to get them to draw SWH's attention. But they'd be attached to their hivemind the whole time, so that might be more trouble than good.The entropy virus is becoming less and less effective against zombies. The hives have likely converted all zombies to be immune to it after the massive effect it had on the battle of last thread. We don't have any bombs big enough to blow up the hive either, though if we set Torg to it (I think we got Torg back) he might be able to make one.
Rolled 60>>27554815I'll vote for this if it includes scouting every nook and cranny and only preparing to attack.I suggest we also set some buggers and feelers around the tunnel ruins to detect even the slightest hint of zombies popping up.
>>27554974We could lead them to one of the hives further from our base. And the infiltration to deploy bomb/virus is still a sound plan that we should attempt before commiting major forces to the hive, we could do this while scouting and to several hives at once as well. Just because there is one special hive near us doesn't mean we don't want to destroy them all :D
>>27555035The more we use it the less likely it'll be effective, since zombies are such adaptive creatures.I'd suggest Richard researching on a new entropic virus strain once we clean out his labs and safely deliver him there.
Rolled 99>>27555078Richard here go fuck yourselves that Entropic Virus is one of kind. It would be hell incarnate making something that could mimic it even remotely.
>>27555014The virus is still effective against the zombies, it's just that since we were only using the single target version they started avoiding the areas we had bombed where the virus was active so they no longer just kept dying and dying. In a hive where they are not at first aware we deployed the virus? especially if we use the full out version instead of singletarget version it should be a massacre. And even if the infiltrator fails to infiltrate all the way in it could still release the virus and wreak havoc since the all out version of the virus will spread and probably kill off the base anyway.>>27555078And if we are going to make a new strain anyway we should use this version full out now to good use before they actually become able to resist it, try to infiltrate all Hives we know of at the same time and release it so they won't have time to build up a resistance.
>>27555115We are fighitng hell itself. Fact is your entropic virus isn't getting any stronger.If you think you're intellect isn't up to the challenge, then that's your thing. It's not the first time the swamp's just chewed and spat out something you threw at it.
Rolled 20>>27555020>>27554815I concur with this sentiment
Rolled 14>>27555158Problem is virus is great against many things but perfect at only one. I cannot copy its perfection.
>>27555115You don't need to do something quite as... messy and flashy. A virus that causes the body to produce blockers on the neural pathways for example would be just as effective. And leave more bodies for the fleshbeasts.Or a virus that induces bloodlust towards anything like itself (some kind of rabies strain) that would cause any affected group to turn on itself. Or maybe just a virus that attacks the Visual nerves and leaves the victim blind. the point is it doesn't need to be quite so... powerful... it can be just as effective while not as advanced if used correctly
Rolled 75>>27554899Anyway, I propose>BanditrySend a force to the White Factions base. Their objectives are to save as many scientists as they can, salvage/loot/steal/etc. as much specialized equipment as they can, and capture Carl if they can (that would preferably be peaceful, have Irewin cook something scrumptious up to try and get him to come along). Dedicate Irewin,Warlord Slag, Ramona and Witch Luna to this. Witch Luna and some Vizen, of course should persuade the scientists that we're just evaccing them and will return them to their greater faction ASAP.>MilitaryScout out everything with Tectus and Vizen. Particularly I'd like to know where tunnel mouths are, even hidden ones (especially hidden ones). Send Torg and Alexis along and have them all place remote-detonated explosives in the tunnel entrances so they can be collapsed when we want.>Basic 1Research into our Psionic Zombies just sitting in a containment bubble somewhere in our base. (Clora and Claire)>Basic 2Gather resources>Basic 3Produce 3 more spider matriarchs (we can do that right, because each matriarch can make one? Otherwise just make one more I guess) (1 or 3 resources)>Mad ScienceRichard researches a new entropic virus strain that is tailored for zombies.Whatever ghoul forces and bandit forces that are available should be sent out with the banditry force, a few vizen, and a lot of vehicles so they can carry things/people etc. away.
>>27555225voting for this.
Rolled 75>>27555225>Send a force to the White Factions base. Their objectives are to save as many scientists as they canFINALLY!I been waiting to find out about these guys all day.Well, I guess I can save my zombie plan for a few turns. It's actually better that way. I'll probably have to change it based on new info which is also good.Voting
Rolled 84>>27555125I advise against using the virus in a hive strongly. The chances that the zombies will be able to integrate it are very likely, and we don't want that. You're trying to do something very bad again.
Rolled 62>>27555225This.Scout first.Prepare next.Attack when we know nothings on our back.
>>27555225>>27555254Not a bad double to have.Stop rolling guys.
Rolled 91>>27555254It's a good plan, but there's too many unknowns right now. Once we get eyes and ears we'll do it.
>>27555254I know. I'm happy that there are other people that are also are interested in them.>>27555262Well, As I see it they are just as likely to integrate it if we use it on the battlefield etc, this way we atleast take out Important targets while it's still viable, and if we do it at as many targets as possible at the same time we get an even bigger effect before it's integrated.
Rolled 49>>27555225Declaring Mad Science roll.
Btw EDE, Was it ever comfirmed that the zombies are building up a resistance towards the entropic virus or was it just that they were Learning to avoid the missile strikes carrying the virus etc?
>>27555300No, they're not more likely to integrate it on the battlefield. The hives are the centers of zombie-production/reproduction. They're where more advanced zombies are manufactured, and that's not a simple process. Let loose an entropic virus in there and we're just as likely to kill them as to get a new kind of zombie that causes whatever it touches to turn into a pile of bio-organic goop.
>>27555300I've been interested in them since the 1st chapter the showed up ages ago. But we never bothered with them until now.
>>27555328I never got why people just discarded them as meaningless when they several times showed up in advanced vehicles with advanced weaponry and just wen't into battlefields abducting zombies killing anything in the way. seemed like kind of a big hint from EDE
>>27555360Kind of like how he mentioned them last thread, and again right now.Of course, it could just be a trap. But we're damned if we don't because we have SWH's active attention and she has many more conventional military forces at her disposal than we have conventional or unconventional means to deal with them. I bet EDE took my S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Controllers flooding out of the tunnels comment last thread seriously and that's what She's going to unleash
>>27555225Oh, add Tabula Rasa to the Psionic Zombie research action.
>>27555435We should, If it's of any worth. Though he's been said to not be too savvy with flesh integrated psionics. He's good at pure psionics and crystals though.
Rolled 17>>27555225Our forces got sent to the White Base. (bandit bonus activated speed freak able to arrive in under one turn). Our forces arrived but the place was nearly overrun. They place had either been largely evacuated/overrun already. We managed to break in and start looting at least we tried anyway place was crawling with zombies. We did find Carl however if you consider we found him floating around in a large pool full of gore. On our way back however we encountered one of their wrecked craft with some survivors to boot who we took with us. Even the craft itself. Alexis found some entrances and collapsed some but is considered about the access points in ruins. Which are not nearly so easy to find. Crews sent out while everyone was busy and brought back some resources. 5 points acquired.1 spider Matriarch under construction. Cursing all the while Richard tried to create a new entropic virus focusing on zombies. Found him around hanging around the Swarm vats and hell hole...pouring in some Entropic Virus solutions cackling madly. Then a strange spiked tendril covered in eyes erupted from the Hellhole grabbed and slammed him around before dragging him in. He is yet to be seen. Even though Clora'Zel roused herself to check it out even. Month 168>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice12 Resource points.
>>27555422Ooooh that was you :oWas never really sure wether that could actually happen or not xD btw.>>27555435Oh, there is already a tabula rasa? Darn, I was thinking of a tabua rasa Project that would be to create a species of mutant that absorbs attributes from other beings and morph into similar things. possibly due to absorbing their genetics. Would be a good species to either take and try abilities other creatures have, Get monstercopies that are under our controll or just to get an influx of a certain species we need more of quickly.
>>27555494Haha, oh Richard dear. We love you.
Rolled 87>>27555322They avoided the missile strikes its unknown if they now have resistance to it or not. Psionic zombie research wise it seemed to have gone into comatose. Don't know why when we got probed it psionicly it sort of exploded...from the glimpses we saw it seems that one Zombie Hivemind lost to and got absorbed by another.
>>27555494Huh. I don't Think that will kill Richard, the guy is too much of a bastard for that. Will be interesting to see what he's learned when he gets back though.I suggest that atleast one action is reverse-engineering the Craft and any Equipment they had with them, also learn EVERYTHING the survivors knew, and hopefully have them join the hivemind.
>>27555494>Then a strange spiked tendril covered in eyes erupted from the Hellhole grabbed and slammed him around before dragging him in.Why are we so bad at making safe containment facilities?Are we cursed or something or does Richard actively put himself in front of danger instead of just monitoring lackies from behind a monitor?
>>27555567Of course richard always puts himself in right in front of the monstrosity he creates, safety protocols be damned.He wouldn't be richard if he didn't.
Rolled 39>>27555567Its a hellhole anon you built it without considering safety precautions. Richard does is best avoid danger problem is things just happen in the name of SCIENCE.
>>27555548See, There is no sign of them developing a resistance to the virus, can we please proceed to virusbombing their hives now?>>27555567We really should improve our safety :O And Richard has Always been a bit of a loose cannon, you get that way from first being a goverment scientist that doesn immoral things, then getting turned into a nanobot monster and then do even more unspeakable things while isolated with what you percieve as an abomination for who knows how long
>>27555592The hellhole was built specifically as a saftey precaution against the most dangerous shit we could imagine and in case anything goes wrong.
Rolled 75>>27555593>>27555593I stated it was unknown user. I don't know for certain especially when it comes to hive strains.
>>27555621Yeah, there is the chance that they become resistant, But so far there is no sign of that happening. Though the risk of that happening exists.
Rolled 7>>27555617Its actually designed to develop the worst of the worst of bio whatever.
>>27555659And we'd make something like that without the precaution to be ability to deal with the worst of the worst biowhatever gone wrong?Riiiight.In any event we'll fix that problem later, I'm getting sick and tired of such preventable accidents.
Rolled 21>>27555707The facility was actually trying to defend itself imagine if YOU had something that fucked over life itself being poured down your gullet. it also sorta went haywire.
>>27555494Extra: Converse with the survivors."You have seen that we have let you alone to your affairs in peace for many years. And that in your hour of peril we came with the expectancy to save some of you. You are those that we have saved from the horde. Who are you and what is your purpose in this swamp?"
>>27555494Talk to the scientist survivors using Witch Luna and some Vizen, have Tabula Rasa outside the room, and have him step in if it looks like things are about to get rowdy (I suspect that their scientific interest would trump their desire to get rowdy).Get the general lowdown on their faction, and ask them if they know why their deterrence fields stopped working, and tell them that we can offer them resources to continue their research here, but that until we deal with the zombie problem we can't safely extract them back to their faction. If they help us deal with the zombies, we can help them in various ways.(Did Carl come peacefully?) Talk to Carl, ask him what he was out and about to. Ask him what's up with the zombies, and if he knows anything about them, and if he's willing to help us save our asses from them/SWH.>BanditryHave Warlord Slag and allied bandit forces shore up the defenses around the bandit bases. (Resources: 4)>MilitaryHave Alexis head out and scout out the ruins specifically (but also the paths between us and the zombie hives) for tunnel entrances. Don't have her collapse any, just note their locations.>Basic 1Torg makes a shitload of really strong explosives, we're going to trap the tunnel entrances (or maybe the entirety of the ruins) with these so we can blow them up when SWH starts to send her forces out of them. (Resources: 4)>Basic 2, 3Shall be declared after we get information from talking to the scientists and Carl. (so don't enact any of these actions yet)By the way guys, SWH is doing the same-old deal as the Heart of the Swamp and stirring up the monsters so our forces are paralyzed where-ever they get stuck at, and we're under attack from the outside while She fucks us over with previously undiscovered forces.
>>27555756I support.Though i think we found Carls corpse.
>>27555744That's not the issue. We can'st stop stuff from going haywire.The issue is him putting himself directly in front of danger and getting incapacitated, where we have plenty of expendable assistants (Viroz, Borgs, Robots, ect.) to stand in the line of fire while he supervises via telecoms from saftey in an entirely different location, or at least behind several feet of industrial security glass and/or concrete
>>27555817Yeah, I know that Richard is used to doing things his way. But his safety is Paramount for our future plans.
>>27555756I'll be back in like 20 minutes to finish up this action-proposition list if EDE has posted the writefaggotry.
>>27555756When there is peace, I have a plan about the monsters.
Waiting on those inquiries to the surivors before posting.
Rolled 18>>27555753"...We are members of the Umbra Corporation. Purpose is to research zombies.">>27555756Our Company specializes in medical research. We have a base in the city to the north. As for why our fields failed we don't know. We wont be staying long an extraction team will be coming for us shortly."Carl states that he was just getting something good to eat that is why he was wondering around. Zombies be and do what zombies do. What I know about them? Well not much just that they can mutate...somtimes and are driven by hunger. Save you from them and who? I can't really help you zombies ignore me for whatever doesn't mean I want to antagonize them enough to STOP ignoring me. Or on your own there plus something like She Who Hungers being under the swamp is quite funny. After all why would the Super Mutants be more concerned with dealing with the brood over her if she is such big threat as you claim. Banditry actionWarlord slag as assimilated our tech into the bandit bases upgrading them.Alexis says there are a lot of such ruins and is uncertain if she can even find them all. She is still scouting them out anyway however. Just states don't expect a miracle.Torg is still absent.
>>27555986"We are Memor. One of our purpose is to research zombies. Is there anyway we can contact your extraction team for a peaceful exchange?"Umbra Corpororation, iseewhatyoudidthere
>>27555986I said not to enact them yet... :/
>>27555986"not umbrella"They didn't volunteer any additional information we might find useful? Something we might use against the zombies perhaps?I would suggest that we use action2 to reverse-engineer the vehicle and and the Equipment and action 3 to Incite the supermutants to try to attack SWH where it really hurts, her home (it could work and be really awesome) with false (and real) messages etc they could intercept.Either that or use it to infiltrate hives to try to destroy them from within.
>>27556062And just where pray tell is her home, why wouldn't they have attacked it by now if they could, why on earth would they believe we would be there?
>>27556088We either tell about the hives (further away from us), send them towards somewhere in the Deep swamp where we think it might be. And didn't we sense SWH psychicly since we first started searching for broodmothers? We could just use that to find out somewhat where she is.
Rolled 74>>27556051Our extraction team is on its way. As for exchange all of our research is confidential and not to be shared. Not until we develop cure anyway. Bit tough to do thanks all the damned mutagens though. >>27556062Zombie have a pack mentality and even a crude hivemind sorta deal. At least some strains did or used to anyway. >>27556051Who says their Umbrella corp anon? They are just a bunch of doctors trying to make a cure.
>>27555986Ask them if we may keep their vehicle when they leave (we did save them. Also, ask what their vehicle is/does/specializes in). Tell them that we may be able to collect zombies for them if they don't intend/want to re-establish operations in the swamp again. We would keep them detained until they came to pick them up, payment would be negotiable. Mention off-hand that we have, right now, a sample from a creature that zombies always ignore. Managed to grab a piece off of it while it was floating in a pool of gore in the middle of their base. Are they interested in it?
>>27556166We just took the wreckage. Don't ask unless they ask for it back.Asides from that I support it.
>>27556166Mention that we have reason to suspect that the sample is from a zombie capable of leading massive numbers of other zombies (that's not meta, he was Bob's friend and saved our ass using a horde of zombies once if I recall)
>>27556140"We mean a peaceful exchange of you of course. We will be happy to return you to your superiors. We can supply you with what little zombie information we have if you are interested. In fact, in future times, we will be happy to offer any military assistance against the zombies, as we tried to do now.""We take value in the cure, and your work.">>27556166I'm thinking more on the lines of adding a token gift of a single crate of high grade fuel over asking them to buy back their forces. I also don't want supersoldiers and mercenaries wrecking shit up on the way here to extract them.
>>27556166>>27556197And ask Carl if we could do a bit of study on him. Say we kind of missed our chance the last time. Put him up in the nicest place we have, by the way.
>>27556201Well they're corporate (or government and lying) remnants. Their technology is far more advanced than ours, I doubt they even use biofuel. They ARE, however, very interested in zombies. And we just happen to have practically the very first one...
>>27556229Like I said, a token gift. Even if it's useless to them it's what we offer and a sign of good faith.
>>27556166I meant detaining the zombies, don't misinterpret my poor grammar please! The scientists are have their freedom, just don't let them poke around any of our bio-facilities or get near/see Clora's stuff.
>>27555986I mean, those actions didn't even have a roll with them!
Rolled 16So when they mean "Corporation" is that just a name leftover from before the fall or are they really a company? As in stockholders, and a nation to sell goods to?So far we've only seen military states (if that) and all trade has been done through pure economic goods rather than currency or any semblance of an interconnected economy.
>>27556397Probably a left over. Like the military faction.There is no nation, only it's remnants who uphold it's ideals in the hopes it might one day come back.
>>27556397At the beginning there was an option to be "Corporate Remnants". They're the remains of big-businesses that went into corporate bunkers before The Fall. They have bonuses to production and research, and penalties to military.
Rolled 80>>27556166"Whatever you had salvaged is payment enough for return. Unlike others we are not competely insane when it comes to tech falling in others hands. As for it is just a basic transport craft." "...hm interesting more samples are always good. Never enough samples as Dr. Volk himself always stated. Not quite sure how he never had a enough samples though I mean you think genocide would provide all you need and more never so the infamous Dr. Volk." >>27556397"Used to be not any more we are but a left over holdout. There are no longer true nations of any kind. Kingdoms perhaps but the nations of old are no more no matter how badly the government remnents wish it was so as others who have heard the old tales."
>>27556471Hah! Dr. Volk! Muahahahahah! So THAT'S why you made Richard disappear!!
>>27556471"And again, is there a way we can contact your extraction team to hand you over, along with some tokens of our support, and avoid hostilities (which is certainly the exact opposite of our intentions)? We can even transport you to them right now to their location if it is safe to do so."
Rolled 27Then I suggest Action2: Reverse-engineer our salvage.Action3: Set the supermutants up so they attack either Hives further away from us or where we sensed the psychic precence in the Deep swamps.
>>27556471Ask them if they'd be willing to take one or two of ours (Vizen) along with them as a liaison, and to maintain communications.Also, (if Carl is okay with it) give them a small sample of Carl when they go. Tape a note that says "From your friend, R" on it.
>>27556519>Action3: Set the supermutants up so they attack either Hives further away from us or where we sensed the psychic precence in the Deep swamps.Gotta be specific.What do we gain by that also. They've paraded through the Deep Swamp before and it was them who killed the heart and drove out clora's sister. There's nothing of a value there that either we or they know of.
>>27556519I don't suggest that. Also, where did we detect a psychic presence in the swamp? The first thread?
>>27556536That. That is an excellent idea or potentially a dangerous one, they might want to extract richard, although I imagine they've already experimented on samples Carl to the fullest.
>>27556570They don't have any samples of Carl. They did go through quite a bit to capture Carl's lesser friend, Bob, though.
Rolled 39>>27556551>>27556561Ah my bad, I just assumed that the precence we had sensed would turn out to be SWH.How about we change action 3 to either try to make them attack hives, or have the prophet try to sense the location of SWH psionically with the help of our collected people. might be risky, But if we just try to sense the precense and not interfere with it I think we should be fine.
Rolled 56>>27556209Carl does not plan to stick around for long he was about to leave when Clora'Zel got a hold of him. >>27556327Basically what would of occured.Don't worry those actions don't really count yet since you hadn't filled them all out. >>27556489Never asking about his past or even wondering about his past. You would be surprised about what heroes may know have interesting insights they may have.>>27556508No worries we will be picked up soon enough. >>27556536"Negative they would not know the proper safety precautions and cannot afford to train them."
>>27556612If we're going to deal with the hives near our base, we're doing it ourselves and our allies.Grabbing the Supermutants attention isn't a good idea, if they're leaving us alone we can bide our time.
>>27556627>No worries we will be picked up soon enough.Dangit. We're trying to avoid bloodshed here.Just put them in a house near the border and build a big sign or pait our roof. "UC SCIENTISTS HERE ->. PLEASE TAKE THEM"
>>27556657Look, they're not being hostile to us. It's just some guys coming to pick us up. I doubt they'll shoot us if we don't shoot them.
>>27556657We'll add bright neon light pointers too.
Rolled 65What is consensus?
>>27556675"Extraction team". If we don't leave them somewhere at least easy to pick up, we wake up the next day, and theres dead memor guards on the floor and the scientist are gone. The latter I have no problem with, it's the former.>>27556737ActuallyIn anycase, what should be our goal now? Have we surveyed and scouted the area enough to deal with the zombie hives or should we focus on something else?
>>27556612You thought that the mind-parasites would be fine too.
>>27556750And we survived it, the failsafes worked. We've sensed several areas before and SWH hasn't been able to attack us that way. It's not 100% safe, but I think we'd be fine, And we have to deal with SWH sooner or later, finding out where "she" is so we can do something is the fastest and safest way.
>>27556737see >>27556748Have our scouts managed to survey the surrounding area to the fullest or are there places out there we're still in the dark?
Rolled 100>>27556795You have explored only 1/5 of our section of the swamp.
Rolled 8>>27556737Let's ask all our heroes what they know/sense/think about the scientists. If none of them say anything negative/advise against it, give them the sample of Carl (if we can get ahold of one) with the note like planned. We'll let them go whenever they want/when their team calls for them.What's Clora doing with Carl?>BanditryUpgrade Bandit defenses w/ Warlord Slag (4 Res.) >MilitaryScout for tunnel locations w/ Alexis, also collection info on zombie forces, only mark the tunnel entrance/ruin locations, don't collapse any>Basic 1Manufacture explosives>Basic 2Manufacture explosives>Basic 3Research Symbionts for improving resilience and strength. Make them be compatible with mutants, humans, and ghouls if possibleExtra: Find out what going on with/save Richard.
>>27556737My vote is2. reverse-engineer our salvage.3. Have the prophet with the full help of our people search psionically for SWH, only passively, never trying to actively interact with "her"
Rolled 88>>27556782When have we sensed areas before? Have we done it since we activated the Psy Field and woke her up?
Rolled 55>>27556829I'll vote for this.Do we plan to deal with the hives eventually? We have Ghouls looking at us to see if we'll keep to our word.
Rolled 92>>27556842Reverse-engineering isn't something we're good at, and we don't have vehicle manufacturing facilities. That would be a wasted action.
We since we're not going for hives yet, I have another suggestion.An effort must be undergone to study the monsters proper. The heart of the swamp created the monsters for her own benefit. How is that our creations, the SST's and the behemoths, require vast amounts of nuclear energy and high grade fuel to function while these creatures of equal or greater size manage to do so on a purely carnivorous diet, without so much as a hint of artificial fuel? It is possible they have some sort of biological nuclear reactor as part of their digestive system, as we have found plasma spewing monsters. We must unlock the monsters secret. How they can turn meat into a fuel that rivals nuclear energy, or possibly IS nuclear.If we can unlock this, we can Apply it to our own machinery or creations.When it is possible I recommend an immediate capture of monsters as live specimens for research. This can be done with our assortment of Spiders and STborgs, fleshbeasts, in addition to our well trained hunters. Webbeys and Webbers shall construct a massive trapdoor web. Fleshbeasts will act as psuedo-bait, while our hunters drive the monster to where we need it. Once it falls into the web, the Webbers will cocoon it as sprayers and spewers use their stingers to inject a powerful neurotoxin and anisthetic.Once a few have been collected as such, they will be brought to Richards laboratorys for vivisisection and analysis, live specimens for experiments, as well as the releasing of monsters with trackers and cameras to view their habbits.
>>27556847Hmm, fair point. Not to my knowledge more that what we passively do all the time.I still consider it Worth it though, SWH can just send more and more at us untill we take it out. And for that we need a location.>>27556864Ok. But the rest of the salvage? possible Power armors, maybe biological stuff we found in the base etc.
>>27556863Yeah, we'll have to, but we don't have the forces to outright fight them and we don't have a sneaky udnerhanded way of taking them out right now either.
>>27556900But we do have our allies, and a plan at least. And it won't be so much as outright as it is leading them to the places we want them to go. Which of it's own, is rather underhanded.
>>27556887That's an excellent suggestion, but only the very big ones would have those and I'm not sure we're able to capture them. Capturing some of the small plasma-creatures that inhabit the tunnels is much more feasible though, and would likely reveal some interesting things.
>>27556887Okay, This might work instead of the salvage action.How about action 1:>>27556887action 2: psionically search for SWH, have the search channeled through some unneccesary poor sod in a partitioned hivemind while directed by more powerful and experienced members. We should have people outside the hivemind (robots or ghouls or something) be on standby to kill the poor sod we channel it through in case SHW attacks psionically.
>>27556891I'm actually beginning to suspect that SWH isn't a physical entity at all, but something purely psionic in nature.
>>27556943I've had that suspicion as well. If we search this way we might get an answer and be able to adabt accordingly.
>>27556943Also very possible, she could simply be hunger incarnate.Though the sliver of escaped sample that caused the fall has me doubting if it didn't grow into something as massive.
>>27556941No, don't search for goddamn SWH using psionics! Don't you get how bad an idea it is to mess around with psionics and SWH yet??
>>27556961What sliver of escaped sample that caused The Fall? Clora was formed from a sliver of an escaped sample of (we think) the Heart of the Swamp.
>>27556981I meant the escaped sample directly, my bad.I thought that escaped sample was the first to escape and eventually become SWH and contribute to the end of the world.
>>27556935We only need to capture the ones the size of the Behemoths and see what the hell it is that powers them that isn't a minireactor.And since we're the best biologist in town with our own broodqueen, we'll be able to reverse engineer it in time.
>>27556963Yes, it might be dangerous. But do we have any other real way to do it? Eventually SWH will get us, one way or Another as this zombie horde proves. SWH has woken and if we are to do anything about it we need to know about location/state of being, I don't particurarly like us taking too many risk either, But it's neccessary.We could possibly try to learn this by researching one of the psionic zombies that made a deal with "her" though. to learn exactly how they get their orders etc.
>>27557029You know what? Go ahead.
Rolled 17>>27556829Anyway EDE, if you're waiting this is the consensus I believve
>>27557037I'm still on your side
Rolled 9>>27556829Seconding this
>>27557056>>27557040Okay, lets see if we can learn anything from psionic zombies that have a Connection with SWH. If we don't learn anything from that and no one comes up with any other way of locating SWH we try the psionics after doing some extra research and mutations to make us more resistant to her incursions?
Rolled 9>>27556829Upgrades continue for bandit defenses assimilating what they can with our tech. Alexis will gone a while exploring known ruin locations. Estimated time of return is unknown. Explosives are being created or at least we are trying to.Symbiotic research has commenced for enhancing resilience and strength. Simple enough problem is making them compatible with so many things. Month 167>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice6 Resource points.
>>27557102We can research for 10,000 years, devise the greatest logical resistances and failsafes.Her sheer power trumps all logic and reason.
>>27556818What's this going to do, EDE?
>>27557146So exactly what is your plan for dealing with SWH? Trust me, I would really like to know a better way. But do you agree with the whole researching the psionic zombies that have contacted SWH to try to find out?
>>27557178We accidentally find some underground complex or something? xD maybe get a map from some bandits or mutants.
>>27557179>So exactly what is your plan for dealing with SWH? Trust me, I would really like to know a better way.What we are already doing. Growing in strength, biding our time, until we can devise a SAFE solution to attacking her. Until this swamp is unified, we cannot risk it.> But do you agree with the whole researching the psionic zombies that have contacted SWH to try to find out?I agree with researching psionic zombies, to an extent. Not to trying to find SWH.And by extent, I mean I'm still in favor of the creation of a psionics laboratory in the waste for any further psionic research.
Rolled 59>>27557178...nothing while I go get myself something to drink and think about it. All I know is it may or may not have something to do with exploring and the swamp.
>>27557216I really like that idea, but I'm not sure how long it'll be before we have the resources to go out and establish a base.
>>27557216We're not the only ones growing and researching, don't think that SWH doesn't grow stronger as well, How long until SHW takes over our hivemind without us being able to do anything about it?
>>27557237Beats me, but maybe by that point we'll be able to do something about it. We don't have nearly the resources to attack her right now so knowing her location is less-than-useless because it wastes resources and endangers us. Finding out where she is before we're ready to strike just means that we're likely to make a move on outdated information when we are.
>>27557267We could give the information to the supermutants, or try to have the marauders drop a bunch of jerryrigged nuclear reactors to blow "her" up, We could develop a virus to drop there, we could sneak in with operatives and assasinate. Would that be wasting more Resources than fighting nigh endless hordes of zombies? constant monster uprisings that flood us? having to deal with being afraid that our hivemind will be subverted and not being able to utilize our psionics?
>>27557136I would like to prepare to strike, as I feel in time once we scout the area and are secure in our information, we should deal with the hives and bring faith to the members of the pact that it si worthwhile>Basic 1Slag assess our allied bandits strength, and what he thinks about our combined ability to strike on the hives>Basic 2Gather resources>Basic 3Have some teams helping the Matriarchs set up nests around the base proper, to assist in BorgST production for future efforts.>MilitarySend Irewin as an envoy to the nearby Ghoul camps, specifically the one we may plan to use as a point of defense, and prepare to coordinate a strike>BanditSend Luna to the Vileblood base, have her and those heroes try to reclaim Richards labs from whatever accident was caused. She should have a bonus in her territory.>Extra:Relocate the scientists to a moderately secure, but easy to see from outside, location for their extraction teams. With a black flag or something to indicate them.>>27557237>How long until SHW takes over our hivemind without us being able to do anything about it?So long as we don't touch her, we are safe. Giving her the shred of ability to take over our hivemind even faster is of no help at all.
>>27557231Hmm, that'd be a pleasant surprise.Let's start this turn by asking our New Heroes about their pasts. Where'd they come from originally/recently, ask Luna about her not-psionics and why Reavers 'consult' her, and Warlord Slag about any notable past battles, ask both of them if they know anything about the swamp, Richard, brood mothers, or psionic entities.While we're at it, ask Tabula Rasa what he sensed when the hivemind was attacked. Has he been able to feel any psionic presences of power around? Is it possible for an entity to be purely psionic, without any physical form?
>>27557311If we can reach out with our psionics and connect with hers (which is what we are risking) then so could she. That she hasn't done so yet would either point towards that it's not possible or that she's not quite strong enough to break through our blocks without the collective hunger of hundreds of thousands of zombies.
Rolled 42>>27557311I like this, though I'd send Slag and Luna out to the VileBlood base (with shitloads of troops) and make Basic 1: Continue Symbiont research.
Rolled 81>>27557311>>27557342I will vote for these>>27557344Which is why shouldn't give her the possibility nor should we reach out and connect to her.And the reason she hasn't broken through with the zombies is that she still can't break directly into their minds unless something, say a parasite or psionic device, overpowers it and allows here to
>>27557342Good thinking. This has my support. we could also try to ask for rumors among the ghouls, bandits and mutants, who knows. they might have some information
Rolled 34>>27557311I second thiswith these modifiers>>27557342>>27557359
>>27557365>And the reason she hasn't broken through with the zombies is that she still can't break directly into their minds unless something, say a parasite or psionic device, overpowers it and allows here toAnd now she no longer has the the ability to use the zombies seeing as they no longer have parasites on them.And we don't try to connect to her, we just sense around and see if we sense something that might be her. Under no circumstances would we try to connect.
>>27557399Psionic feelers are a gateway to connection.
>>27557417But with this logic we can't even risk sending any of our Soldiers out to fight, or do anything where they might be captured and serve as an entry point for SWH.
>>27557461This is also true, and something we shall have to deal with.We have been fortunate she has not tried to undergo such a tactic.
>>27557461>>27557495Actually, scratch there. She HAS tried to do something like that. An Arch Brood King told us this. For a long time we were slowly being corrupted by her. Even the supermutant psionic users noticed this.Torg invented some sort of psionic bomb from a rare and unkown element he had forgotten, and completely severed any and all connections to her.
>>27557495The thing is, as long as SWH exists we're in mortal peril. She could do this at any time, take one of our scavenging parties etc, or just someone that wandered off. Atleast of we make efforts to locate and take care of her we know when we're at risk and can atleast take some precautions.The sooner we do this the less risk.
>>27557537see above >>27557530Memor have been cleaned of potential corruption by Torgs bomb.Zombies haven't.We make another of those, you'll be damned sure we'll be interested in zombies.
>>27557551Have the other races we've included been? And are we immune to further attempts to create a new Connection? if we were truly safe then the feelers wouldn't be any risk.Or she might take all the others with hiveminds and take them over, becoming that much more powerful and completely impossible for us to withstand.But yes, we should try to get Another of those bombs.
>>27557595We can presume the cleansing is genetically passed on or has psionically affects all Memor who join part of our mind.The Supermutants have their way of dealing with her.Zombies naturally were not very connected to her, slaves to their own instinctual hunger, until we opened the way for that particular group.As for the bomb, I honestly feel that was a once in a lifetime event.
Rolled 19>>27557311Slag states that they are mostly leftover rabble made up of fools who thought they could survive here despite being a not at least being veterans. A few survived and formed the lesser bandit groups who joined up with us. As for our combined ability to strike a hive he doesn't suggest it. 4 resources acquired from scavenging teams.Matriach dens established.Ghouls state that they are planning to strike soon. Just waiting for resupply so they can strike out.The scientists have been picked up and Carl has disappeared as well.In other news Richard has RETURNED! If you can consider crawling out of the hellhole and barfing creepy crawlies that anyway. Apparently something done there had a scratch it couldn't itch and Richard was forced to find it. He did which turned out to be a disc detailing grid plans for installations in the former swamp. Month 168>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice4 Resource points.
Rolled 81>>27557383I think this needs a third.
>>27557645>He did which turned out to be a disc detailing grid plans for installations in the former swamp.knew it.I suggest we explore them at once to see if there is anything we can find in there that might help us.other than that we really should handle the huge zombie hordes. I suggest taking out the hives with infiltrators having the entropic virus
Rolled 45>>27557645Well, analyze the disc and see what tunnels are between us and the zombie hives/around our bases. Look for likely staging areas for large-scale infantry attacks (consult Warlord Slag for all these), look for psionic specialized research facilities (if it's that detailed a map), and look for anything else of interest. See if there's any easy ways of getting to the water-purifiers way below us.
>>27557645What about reclaiming Richards labs? Or were they already safe.What did the extraction teams look like? Did we just let them waltz in and out without so much as a howdy?Remind the Ghouls that we too are planning to strike soon, and we can resupply them and that a joint effort is far more agreeable to all parties no?
Rolled 46>>27557701Also, this: Let's start this turn by asking our New Heroes about their pasts. Where'd they come from originally/recently, ask Luna about her not-psionics and why Reavers 'consult' her, and Warlord Slag about any notable past battles, ask both of them if they know anything about the swamp, Richard, brood mothers, or psionic entities.While we're at it, ask Tabula Rasa what he sensed when the hivemind was attacked. Has he been able to feel any psionic presences of power around? Is it possible for an entity to be purely psionic, without any physical form?
>>27557645>As for our combined ability to strike a hive he doesn't suggest itNot even a tiny one?Even with everyone attacking (and I mean everyone) ghouls bandits and all?Damn.
>>27557711Which is why I suggest the infiltration strategy
>>27557722I swear, if you let the entropic virus loose in a zombie hive it won't end up well for us.
>>27557722Sure. But not with psionics or anything linked to that. or viruses.Also I really wonder what the ghouls are up to if even Slag thinks that all our combined might isn't enough to pilfer even a tiny hive.
>>27557741Possibly not, we could use other Bombs as well.
(waiting for inquiry responses)
Rolled 8>>27557342Warlord Slag has had a long and prosperous career. I was one of the only bastards alive who ever gave the guard a run for their money. As for how I stated out a nomad wondering the dustlands in a faraway land. One day my was lost to the dust. In order to survive I started stealing got caught nearly lost a hand until a some raiders came buy and released me during their pillaging. After that I joined up with them. I served with bandits, raiders, pirates, and even slavers. One day I got strong enough to start my own band known as the Slag Slug Sluggers. There was no where you could be that we couldn't find you. We had a long prosperous career many joined even former marauders. One day the guard came to protect the 'innocent' and enforce their own code of laws. We fought long and hard. We may of been good but we were up against paramilitary tier mutants. So I had us do what we did best. Guard were used to this but they had never dealt with me and mine. We were one of the few groups capabling of striking deep into Guard protected lands. I must admit we made killing. Eventually though I got bored and was getting old. And my men were filthy rich so we went our separate ways. Instead of retiring right away I wanted to go on one last job. Notable past battles includes the rape of Nakora. Pillaging of the Corporations of Alanc. Busting of government bunkers. Deep strikes on the Guard. The raiding of the Kingdoms. The battle of the Baylor. What I know about the swamp is its a treasure trove of advanced tech very advanced even by pre fall standards.Hm don't really know much about Richard other then his willingness to deal with bandits and the quality he provides. Don't know anything about broodmothers other then they command entire broods. I hate fighting broods nothing worth pillaging or raping. Ever.Psionic entities I have fought before they can only take shape around areas of great power. And believe me you don't ever want to fight one if you can help it.
>>27557856Ask him what he knows about Glowy Joe.
Rolled 32>>27557645military action:Commence the infiltration of hives to blow them up.(If the mad science works then use that)Bandit action:Try to abduct one of the smart zombies that seem to be leading the zombie hordeaction1: explore the facilities we've discovered. specifically searching for psionic facilities.action2. scavengeaction3. co-ordinate a strike with the ghouls.Mad science: Have Richard create a virus specifically tailored to kill zombies and hives.
>>27557920We're in the middle of an infodump anon, let's wait a bit.As for infiltration and abduction, Alexis would be far better at that. We also don't have the explosives and how would we even deliver those bombs to them?
Rolled 59>>27557856Luna states that her abilities she learned from her village's shaman and her family. As for why the reavers consult her why even reavers sometimes need something that even they cannot risk taking by force. The swamp holds great power that is why I came here. Richard don't know much about them any more then your average bandit. Brood Mothers? Ah yes I knew one nice gal we had great fun discussing many things. That was until her brood got purged by the guard and I got exiled. Bastards. Psionic entities? I don't know anything about that. Tabula Rosa here I felt the usual psionic energy hovering around the zombies that got focused and well you know what happened. As for beyond that heh I sensed something reacting up from the city area briefly launching its gaze over here due to all the commotion. Entity of pure psionics not that I know of even I have to have a physical form.>>27557711With ghoul assistance possibly. >>27557885All I know he is crazy, influential and quite strong.
>>27557920Wait, you actually want to like physically go find SWH? Are you out of your mind? Whenever we venture into random tunnels things psionically strong enough to cut off hivemind contact and powerful enough to wipe out dozens of Tectus do just that. The tunnels aren't anywhere we can go until we build up a shit-ton of BorgSTs to cleanse them with plasma and radiation.
>>27557965Hmm. We should have Luna take a look at the crystals at some point.
>>27557965>With ghoul assistance possiblyWell then we better help them asap because as is their planning to do it alone and if they're defeated that's a huge loss of allies.I hope Alexis returns soon.
Rolled 34>>27557981What? where did that say "go physically find SWH"?>>27557965Hmm, that's some interesting information from tabula.We might want to do some research into the whole Mojo thing.
>>27558031How about this plan?We focus soley on the west two hives with our combined forces.If things go bad, we have reserves.We can also call in the Vilebloods to assist.We must bring faith in the pact that we can eradicate the hives.>Preparation of deadly forrest of spiders and skirmishers, loaded with webs, mines, and radiation from Novakon>Entrenching deep into Ghoul base with SST's AND Irewin and our own ghouls>Mass conglomeration of what forces we can spare on two hivepoints>Scouting, scouting, scouting, and more scouting
>>27558132We could MAYBE take out the smallest nest with the combined forces. Lets not go on 2 hives. maybe 1.
>>27558183Problem is their so close, that the other cuts of half our forces. It is likely anyway that attacking one will attrack the other, so better to lead them to where we want them to be than have them go where we don't.
>>27558132I would go for it. I don't know where or what the original plan the ghouls were to attack. If they think they have a better one that ours (that is combining Memor, Bandit, and Ghoul) let's ask them.As well as consulting Slag on it.
>>27558196How about we set up all our traps to try to cut the hives off from eachother and then focus on one hive, once that one is taken out we go around the trapped area and attack the other hive with out concerted forces. We also leave a small troop to keep an eye on the other hive the whole time.
>>27558132Figure out a way to account for the mass of zombies underground waiting to come out via tunnels, the impending Monster Mayhem, the inevitable attack that'll come from the big hive to the rear of our attack, and incorporate hero bonuses and you might have something.
>>27558230Like I said, we attack one hive the other will follow. If we attack the one west, it shall have to be both at the same time because both will respond at the same time to an attack on either.The traps aren't meant to stop them, only slow them and attrition. And putting forces in the middle is like putting a hand between an anvil and a hammer.
>>27558132Also, any attack on the hives should wait until Alexis is back. Tell the ghouls that we'll throw our full force in if they wait or whatever, but we shouldn't attack until she's back.
>>27558281exactly, Hopefully the traps slow them down enough to allow us to take the first hive out before the other joins the battle. And we're not putting any troops in the middle. We just have them Watch the other hive and report about it while possibly trying to distract the zombies there.We could try to use the grid we found to know where we should avoid tunnels.
>>27558267>>27558290>Figure out a way to account for the mass of zombies underground waiting to come out via tunnelsWe'll use the grid map for that and set up a watch. If any show up, we'll unfortunatly have to divert troops. I'm aslo considering possibility of laying explosives, or drowning the tunnels in acid with our new Sprayers. For what it's worth.>the impending Monster MayhemThis is an issue of it's own that we shall deal with when it arrives. I'm hoping we can at least get these camps before monster mayhem.In any event if we don't, we better convince the ghouls not to attack or they will destroy themselves (and end neither of us like).>the inevitable attack that'll come from the big hive to the rear of our attackFor that we have our allies to the east and the vilebloods. I'm thinking of an emergency reserve line to slow down forces there, while we deal with the west hives. If things get really bad, we pull out from the west entirely>and incorporate hero bonuses and you might have something.I need a list of all our heroes, I've only incorporated the two new ones and Irewin and his four men defend the Ghoul fortReally I'm pressing for an attack once alexis returns because I don't want the ghouls to do it alone, get killed, and we lose allies>>27558316Thing is if we attack the one directly west, the one further will still make it and then we have 2 hives headed in our fortress direction.I'd rather a stand against 2 hives be made on a ghoul fortress instead
>>27558390How about we do that, but then when they reach they fortress we sweep in from behind and take out the hives while their forces are out. We should also bury lots of pipes filled with single target entropic virus in large circles, when the horde moves over the circle we activate it, creates a circle they can't move through and then when they can't avoid the missiles any longer without Walking through the circle and dying we virusbomb the insides, this way we both kill large numbers of them and creave artificial chokepoints to slow them down.
>>27558390While we wait for alexis, at least for now we can lay the traps and prepareThus I propose>Basic 1Spiders and Spiderborgs lay their traps on the map as described above. Skirmishers also prepare layout the territory without arousing Zombie suspicion, as well as setting Buggers and feelers and sprayers on the tunnels mapped in the grid. In addition, outlier scouting outposts will be set up to detect monster movement in case of Mayhem event.>Basic 2Feed our (4?) Martirarchs 4 resources for 20 BorgST's. We'll need them.>Basic 3Gather resources>MilitaryGather the Ghoul, Bandit, and our own generals to fully coordinate the future attack. Consult them all, especially Slag>BanditLuna tries to convince any of the other Bandits who really hate zombies to our aid.>>27558450The plan generally involves pushing the zombies out of their hives as is. But I want it to not be our fortress that does the holding.
>>27558494ofcourse we try to do this by a ghoul fortress. But the entropic virus plan is sound. I really think that should be worked into our strategy.
>>27558494Actually, consultation of military leaders isn't an action it's an extra. For military it should be>Set up defensive lines to the east of our base (sandbags, barbedwire, turrets, webts, bandit traps, ect) and on the Ghoul fortress we plan to make a stand
>>27558525We still haven't tailored it to target Zombies only. And that thing could easily spread to us.
>>27558540No it wouldn't. The single target version can't spread.
>>27558551Ah, well then. So be it. We lay minor entropic bombs as part of our traps. But only activate them once the area is lost and there's none of our troops to be affected.
Rolled 64>>27558494>>27558527Voting.Gotta give the ghouls and bandits some faith before they leave a useless pact.
>>27558564Well, we should do the circles thing tbh, or lines that constantly spew out low ammounts of the virus, this way we have areas where anything that passes through dies and we can controll their path. if we make the circles we not only force them to cluster up between them to get through alive which gives us easy targets, it gives us huge Groups of zombies that are trapped inside ande which will simply die due to subsequent bombs.
Rolled 14>>27558494I approve. I really hope Monster Mayhem doesn't hapen through all this.
>>27558598Could work.I don't know if we have enough virus material for that.
Rolled 91>>27558494you forgot mad sciencemad science: Have Richard work on a zombie and hive specific virus.
>>27558598add this to this>>27558527
>>27558661And that's our Mad Science Roll.
>>27558661You just rolled for it.
>>27558691obviously ;) otherwise I wouldn't have rolled there
>>27558494Traps have begun to be laid despite the heavy presence of zombie hordes. 20 BorgSTs constructed thanks to Matriarchs. Our forces got hit hard when they went scavenging for resources. They knew what to expect for basic zombies but some mutants showed up took down a SST and while our forces were destructed a zombie horde descended on them. 2 resouce points acquiredGhouls suggest dirty bombs to break them unleash the ferals followed by soldier and armor support.General Slag insights state that the zombies got leaders among them who are not stupid. Said he fought some during the Clean Up of Alastrad. Then you got mutant zombies who can even take down a tank solo or more easily. He even states that some zombies have enough brain cells to even pilot or even operate computers. All thanks to some variants that are capable of mutating or even waking up certain parts of brain. Luna got a hold of some roaming Raiders who are willing to help. Shit even a Reaver or three showed up. Mad ScienceRichard came up with a virus that should wreak some havoc among hives thanks to samples Irewin got him. Not sure long it will be good for but aught to give the zombies one of a mean surprise. Month 168>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice6 Resource points.
>>27558850Well, I say we infiltrate as many hives as possible this turn and unleah the new virus at the same time in all of them.
>>27558850>heavy presence of zombie hordes. >They knew what to expect for basic zombies but some mutants showed up took down a SST and while our forces were destructed a zombie horde descended on them. >General Slag insights state that the zombies got leaders among them who are not stupid. Said he fought some during the Clean Up of Alastrad. Then you got mutant zombies who can even take down a tank solo or more easily. He even states that some zombies have enough brain cells to even pilot or even operate computers. All thanks to some variants that are capable of mutating or even waking up certain parts of brain. This is strong hints aganist an attack isn't it?>Ghouls suggest dirty bombs to break them unleash the ferals followed by soldier and armor support.See but that's the thing. The ghouls are going to attack anyway with or without us. And when they do, they'll be no better off and we lose them.
>>27558913Sometimes there's nothing we can do about the folly of others. Best to leave the hives alone, it's clear we can't deal with them.But the traps should still work, and if their bases DO come under attack, we'll be there to help.
>>27558957Yes. We can at least fortify their bases and give them good places to fall back.On a brighter note, maybe we're underestimating the ghouls.
>>27558957We can still infiltrade and unleash the new virus. Hell, we could probably even launch missiles filled with it at the hives, probably best to keep the missiles as backups in case the infiltration fails.
>>27559028How are we supposed to do that? Did you see what some of their mutant zombies did our SST? (shit we can't even build those anymore)
>>27559028We don't have missiles designed to carry and dispense biological payloads. I don't think we even have missiles.
>>27559048we infiltrade.... you know SNEAK in. we don't try to fight. So their zombies ability to wreck shit doesn't matter. And also, how are they supposed to be able to punch the backup missile in case the infiltration fails?
>>27559085The ones we used to disperse the parasite or our entropic virus.
>>27559096>you know SNEAK in.You know how many times we tried that? With our greatest heroes to boot.You know how many times we failed?You know we've never EVER suceeded except once, and that was only one hero. And Carl was with her so that was cheating.And that was without this new revelation.
>>27558850>Basic 1Continue to lay traps and fortifications, this time planning an exit strategy and attrition paths for zombies with the Ghouls "on the offchance you guys need to fall back. We'll be behind you all the way, and if you set up a good head against the zombies we'll follow. Likewise you guys need to hike it out of there we'll be ready to guard your flanks">Basic 2Begin weaponization of Richards new virus. Mines and missiles.>Basic 3Gather more resources, I'm expecting monster mayhem soon and the clock is ticking. We might not have the chance later.>Military>BanditSlag and Luna peronsally protect our next scavenger crew, things are getting dangerous. Try to capture one of these strange mutant zombies if you can.
>>27559132We don't need to get all the way inside. we just need to get nearby so we can disperse the virus.
>>27559149They do have patrols you know?Super mutant zombie patrols (holy crap).Also Alexis is out.
Rolled 53>>27559146Forgot to roll
>>27559146Add trying to infiltrate and disperse the virus in the hives as military.I support this.>>27559161Yes, and those patrols are failproof? Even if only 3/5 get through thats still 60% of the hives we target taken out.
>>27559186>Yes, and those patrols are failproof?So far they have been.Now they're only stronger.
>>27559186Plus "these guys are smart". Once they;re onto our plan even the slightest failure, they'll attack.Plus, they might adapt to the virus within their hives, rather quickly. It will be far more effective on the battlefield.
Rolled 11>>27559146Having the two bandit heroes guard the scavengers does nothing. How well they do is entirely dependent on roll, the scale of resources we get goes 1-10 correlated to the first digit of the roll and the danger. Seemingly regardless of who we send along or what have you, danger/loss is based on ambient conditions and the roll. I theorize anything less than a 60 will have us lose troops right now.
>>27559336Well then by all means, we should consider good alternative uses for them. any suggestions?
>>27559228well, the hordes are mostly centered around the hives. right? so if we release the virus among the hives as well as among the various hordes we could possibly take out most of them, and since we're taking out the hives we'd have taken out their main way to adapt to the virus and improve. the key part is timing, releasing it by all the hives and hordes at the same time to prevent them from having any time to adapt.
>>27559412The hives are where they are strongest. They probably have some kind of healing bonus there, like we have clora and viroz in case of viral attack.
>>27559412we do this correctly and there won't be any zombie invasion any more. at all. problem solved without us risking any real losses, just a few minions delivering it
Rolled 27>>27559376How about we have them train up our bandits.Also, let's switch Basic 1 to Military and make Basic 1: research further into strength+resilience symbionts, (3 different types one each for mutants, ghouls, humans)
>>27559430sure, but if we do that then we wipe out most of the zombies and should easily be able to go in in force and destroy the hives even if they actually manage to survive the virus in the hives since most of the surrounding zombies will be dead.
>>27559412Zombie hordes spread out AWAY from the hive which are all zombie central.
>>27559477and that's why we send people carrying the virus to those locations as well.
Rolled 86>>27559437>correctlyThat's the thing.The devil is in the execution.And there's a legion of them plaging this our efforts at every turn.>>27559445I can do that.>>27558850>Basic 1research further into strength+resilience symbionts>Basic 2Begin weaponization of Richards new virus. Mines and missiles.>Basic 3Gather more resources, I'm expecting monster mayhem soon and the clock is ticking. We might not have the chance later.>MilitaryContinue to lay traps and fortifications, this time planning an exit strategy and attrition paths for zombies with the Ghouls "on the offchance you guys need to fall back. We'll be behind you all the way, and if you set up a good head against the zombies we'll follow. Likewise you guys need to hike it out of there we'll be ready to guard your flanks">BanditSlag and Luna peronsally train our bandit populace.
>>27559477This was me name dropped.
>>27559469>since most of the surrounding zombies will be dead.Do you not get the sheer scale of their numbers?>>27559493What you're asking is virus an area so large not even a fleet of cropdusters could cover (much less deal with leaping zombies)
Rolled 81>>27559494I can roll for that.
>>27559494We send maybe 5 separate units to each target to make sure that atleast 1 gets Close enough. even if we don't manage to get to ALL of them we'll have severely thinned them out.
>>27559528>severely thinned them out.No we won't.We won't even leave a scratch on their sheer numbers.
>>27559514more zombies means more people that infect eachother. the more people in an area the more devastating a virus is since they spread it to eachother.>>27559553same goes for that. we infect 50 indivduals in a Group of 10.000, they start infecting others who in turn infect others untill they are all dead.
>>27559571Presuming the virus is that effective at all.In any case this argument is moot, we're gonna use it on them anyway but infiltration is out of the question, it's already too dangerous.
>>27559494I think this is the consensus, we have some decent rolls already
>>27559494add mad scienceSonic weaponry to disorient and confuse the enemies, preferably with different possible settings for different enemies and effects
Rolled 54>>27559663Ah yes, the infrasonic Subwoofers. We should develop those.They'd be more effective with the screamer crystals, but we aint touching that until we set up a wasteland lab (or somewhere else far away).Rolling
>>27559494New symbionts have been developed. Further research required to allow it to effect ghouls and such.Weaponize for missiles was pretty basic mines were a bit more tricky but we found a way to mod some in the military base to suit it. This time our forces got lucky and didn't encounter any problems.9 resources acquiredMilitary improvement continues and strategies discussion continues with the ghouls. Meanwhile during bandit training.So...any reason why you are uh 'training' the bandits Luna?Got orders to just like you. Despite your lack of ability in this field?Yup, same could be said of you though old fart.Indeed.Month 169 >>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice7 Resource points.
>>27559783what about the mad science?>>27559663>>27559688
>>27559812More research required.
>>27559783Alexis still hasn't come back?And how many years will Didrikson be searching for the legendary monster o monsters?
>>27559836He refuses to give up. At the moment he is checking out the newly cooled Eastern former marsh. Which becoming more like a delta then swamp now. Alexis has to break into ruins and avoid all the dangers it may take a while.
>>27559836Until we send Alexis to him to help. (alternately, she'll come back with him)>>27559783lol, I love you EDE>>27559663>>27559688That's a lot of research to develop a very complicated system...that won't do much.
>>27559866It will do quite a bit. It can be used to drive monsters away, to be used as a non-lethal weapon, to be used to disrupt and confuse enemies to make them less effective by far in large areas.
Rolled 94>>27559783>BanditrySend the bandits out to loot the ruins of the White Faction's base. Send Witch Luna and Ramona (so that we get her Speed Demon bonus)>MilitaryTrain the bandits to work in a coordinated fashion with our fleshbeast and mutant forces.>Basic 1Develop symbionts for ghouls (hopefully there'll be an autocatalysis effect with the ghoul's enhanced physiologies)>Basic 2Hide remote-detonated explosives in/around the entrances/exits to tunnel mouths that we know of that could be used to flank an attack on the two hives.>Basic 3Manufacture mutant symbionts and equip our forces with them. Start with Memor, then Tectus, then Rix, then Strongarms, then whoeverMad Science: Human symbionts (we can vend these to the city bandits, they expressed interest in the GREAT BANDIT MEETUP)
Rolled 85>>27559987I suggest that if we're going to attack the hives we do it next turn. The longer we wait the more prepared they'll be, I'm sure their underground zombie forces are dying to lodge their cocks firmly in our rectums.Mad Science roll.
Rolled 38>>27559987I'd imagine Umbra corp well extracted any valuables or blew them up, but it's worth a shot.Vote
>>27560002We've been hinted that attacking is a bad idea though, or at least incredibly risky
>>27560005That's likely enough, but we don't want to lose the interest of our bandit heroes.>>27559855EDE, could we get a list of all the heroes we have and (a summary of) their traits/specialties? If you want to just link to a word doc or anything that'd be fine. I'm not sure if we kept the 4 ghoul heroes we acquired during the East Swamp battle or anything.
>>27560002probably a good idea.A lot of people have been agains my infiltration/missile bombardment strategy. But so far has anyone come up with any other viable strategy that doesn't get us wiped out?The zombies continue to advance and to fortify more etc. the faster we do this the better,
>>27560033Not a good idea*
>>27560019Yeah, we have. I couldn't advise against it strongly enough. I think that if we attack then a massive zombie horde will be at our base in a heartbeat. I think there's a point to showing the ghouls and bandits the pact isn't empty. It'd also be nice if the zombies weren't around, but I don't think we're strong enough to do much of anything right now.But everyone seems pretty set on attacking so whatevs.
>>27560074I made the original attack plan, and after the evidence of our Zombies strengths I no longer support an attack like that right nowI'm in favor of seeing how the Ghouls fare
>>27560033Radiation has always been effective against the zombies, turning them into dead or ghouls.If we could only get more isotopes for dirty bombs.
>>27559987Vote for this
>>27560125Fair enough. We ought to advise the ghouls to attack next turn then so we can stop investing shit-tons of resources into temporary fortifications. But he if we roll a 100 we might even get rid of 2 zombie hives
>>27560031You didn't keep them. As for the heroes abilities...fuck I would have to trawl the archives because for some god forsaken reason my computer refuses to save the damned notes.
>>27560190Okay, that's alright. Just give us names. I'll think about trawling the archives and finding them.
>>27560180Not so much temporary fortifications as much as laying a shitload of traps to slow and thin out the fuckhordes of zombies in the expectancy of the Ghouls being pushed back
>>27560190Anything else your notes didn't savethat you want me to look for while I'm there?
>>27560230Not particularly I just don't know why they refuse to save its pretty infuriating.
>>27559987When our forces went to the former base we found nothing...at all its a bunch of empty space and filled holes left over.Bandits training with the rest of our forces went amazingly well surprisingly enough. Despite the lack of training and general creepyness. Turned out they were right about ghouls being massive pains in the ass to modify by anyway. Research is improving immensely painful and slow. Explosives have been sent around known entrances to the tunnels and collapsed. Can only produce even serum to modify one group at time. Memor have been handed out the symbionts that enhance toughness and strength. Only problem is it will require more food/water to sustain them after all you got to take care of the helpful lifeforms as well if you want to keep enjoying the benefits. Mad science was performed to create human versions. Then word quickly spread Vilebloods state they will send a caravan for pick up of new stock in a few turns. They'll even bring payment of some kind. Month 169>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice11 Resource points.
>>27560421It's been months. How much do the ghouls need to stockpile on their "imminent attack"?
Rolled 53>>27560389How hefty is the bonus from the symbionts, by the way? And would it be possible to design ones that do more advanced things, like grant the host chameleonic skin while it's equipped, or institute a psychic stealth field? Will it be possible, woth research, to combine different effects into single symbionts, or would it be more efficient to just wear more than one?
>>27560455That need some rare stuff which takes time to gather up. >>27560473Depends on how advanced said symbiont is problem is the better they are the more costly they tend to be to maintain. As for combining different types harder to research/costlier but slightly cheaper when compared to getting more then one in the long run.
Rolled 2>>27560421>Basic 1Bring Dr. Claire to Base 02, and prepare a farm expansion in there to help with the increased need for food>Basic 2Eh, have Luna, Irewin, and Richard work together to form a brewery using our best Biotech and their special brews and methods. See which ones the bandits and viroz like the most. Also consider having Dr. Claire help via research into a new type of hops plan . Maybe we can start an alcohol profit (or a new poison weapon, either or).>Basic 3Gather resources>MilitaryHave Warlord Slag inspect each of our three bases (Base 01, Base 02, Ghoul Camp) to check for any signs of weakness, decay, or need for improvement.>BanditSend a group to assist the Ghouls in finding these "rare items" they need to collect.
Rolled 43>>27560566Could use a better roll.Also I'd love to see whatever the three of those come up with!
>>27560566so damned close...
Rolled 50>>27560566I can go with this.>Eh, have Luna, Irewin, and Richard work together to form a brewery using our best Biotech and their special brews and methods. See which ones the bandits and viroz like the most.>Also consider having Dr. Claire help via research into a new type of hops plan . Maybe we can start an alcohol profit (or a new poison weapon, either or).Heh, we make something good we might even get the Hillbilly's to start trading again.
Rolled 67>>27560421I've been begging for symbiont research for threads now, and it finally gets done and look: immensely valuable trade good. I begged for psionic crystal research too. >BanditryTake Warlord Slag, Ramona, and Witch Luna, head to a nearby base and loot the fuck out of it. Let's see if THAT is more along the lines of their experience >MilitaryTrain the bandits to tolerate/work with us some more, let's get them used to our weirdness.>Basic 1Produce Human Symbionts (Clora and/or Richard get their bonuses applied to this right? For bio-engineering and inhumane? So we can invest more than one resource?) [3 Res. if possible]>Basic 2Research Finger-Biter Fish, if we never did that. We can have them in the growth tanks in the farms for extra food. (If the research has already been done, then improve farms/research farms with fish living in the water that crops grow in, Chinese rice-paddy style) Improve the farms in the bandit bases if the military and Lair EDE both have maxed farms. Claire can have herself dedicated to this.>Basic 3Research into Ghoul Symbionts>Mad ScienceResearch into Ghoul Symbionts
Rolled 58>>27560631And ask the ghouls for an estimate on when they'll be ready to attack the zombies.Sorry, make Basic 3: Produce 1 BorgST MatriarchMad Science Roll.
Rolled 53>>27560631This. Except replace Basic three with.>Eh, have Luna, Irewin, and Richard work together to form a brewery using our best Biotech and their special brews and methods. See which ones the bandits and viroz like the most. Also consider having Dr. Claire help via research into a new type of hops plan . Maybe we can start an alcohol profit (or a new poison weapon, either or).Because that is a really interesting idea.Rolling for mad science
Rolled 62>>27560665Sounds like a better replacement for 2. They'll get use to use soon enough.>>27560657This should be basic three>>27560631Voting for this, modified by above
Rolled 22>>27560665You remember the Viroz are the walking sacks of plague right?
>>27560756And that's our roll.
Rolled 91>>27560710Suit yourself, but remember the two researches i begged to have done and got ignored on.
>>27560758Which is why we'll test it on them."See this shit? You think you hillbillies are hotstuff, this stuff could knock out a Viroz."
Hm so what is the exactly consensus?
>>27560781Oh fuck wait, I just read that. I though training to get close to us was basic 2, you put the military there!Dammit, next turn I'm gonna press for that research.
>>27560805Well,>>27560631>BanditryTake Warlord Slag, Ramona, and Witch Luna, head to a nearby base and loot the fuck out of it. Let's see if THAT is more along the lines of their experience >MilitaryTrain the bandits to tolerate/work with us some more, let's get them used to our weirdness.>Basic 1Produce Human Symbionts (Clora and/or Richard get their bonuses applied to this right? For bio-engineering and inhumane? So we can invest more than one resource?) [3 Res. if possible]>Basic 2Research Finger-Biter Fish, if we never did that. We can have them in the growth tanks in the farms for extra food. (If the research has already been done, then improve farms/research farms with fish living in the water that crops grow in, Chinese rice-paddy style) Improve the farms in the bandit bases if the military and Lair EDE both have maxed farms. Claire can have herself dedicated to this.>Basic 3>Eh, have Luna, Irewin, and Richard work together to form a brewery using our best Biotech and their special brews and methods. See which ones the bandits and viroz like the most. Also consider having Dr. Claire help via research into a new type of hops plan . Maybe we can start an alcohol profit (or a new poison weapon, either or).>Mad ScienceResearch into Ghoul Symbionts>>27560756This is the roll
Rolled 83>>27560781 Not that i actually expect the finger biter fish to reward nearly as heavily as either of those
Rolled 24>>27560847 If they did though that would be baller
>>27560832That sums it up rather nicely.
>>27560832This is the consensus, waiting for EDE
Rolled 47He's taking so long because he has to describe all the badassery researching the finger biters unlocked.
>>27560832So...which base are we gonna loot?A nearby oneLike...what kind exactly. lets do an enemy bandit one2 weeks later.What did we miss?Everything that we could possibly loot. Ah if only we had a ravager.heh you should of seen my wife.What you have a wife Slag?Yup badass bitch too she rode a missile straight into the sunset nuking the Kaldor Capital City AND their entire army.Awesomeshe survived.30 resources acquiredBandit arms lootedMetal rains 5Siege tanks 4Doom buggies 25assorted vehicles. Most of them converted to bandit.Bandit cohesion with our current forces is currently underway. May take a while though. Massive amounts of human symbionts have been produced.The horrors unleashed the day we upgraded the brewery will be forever remembered as the day that that horrible horrible fluids were produced.So any reason why I saw Irewin charging into the garden waving around a machete while screaming about hops that then tried to attack and eat a GHOUL of all things...not my fault I grabbed Dr. Claires new hops during my experiments.That is because you ASKED FOR IT.Oh yeah what about forgetting to mention that you WATERED THE DAMN THINGS with Luna's whatever. How was I supposed to know both of them would interact in such a way? There was a piling of increasingly dead seeming bandits and wasted Viroz stumbling around muttering about weird ass mojo. Meanwhile some representatives sent by the Hilly Billy family were also not spared when they came by to renegotiate trade. Mostly in the fact that after taking a sip they become lethargically depressed and muttered about how it even better then Grandmas special. Finger biter fish research concluded that we could it has potential. As in interesting properties. Considering they can bite your finger off then replace said finger as itself. Not to mention being able to massively adjust their mouth and body to enable it. Creepy.
>>27561205Month 170>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice5 Resource points.Pop increaseMemor 3000Strong Arm 1600Vizen 1700Buggers 1600Rix 1500Viroz 1600Mulic 1000Ortor 1000Tectus 500
>>27561205Ha, we'll send em a box of a couple dozen bottles of. . .Memor Mojo sounds like a good name for it. Spread that around and see if any come asking for more!
Think I am gonna end it here for tonight anons got stuff to do in the morning. Will stick around a little while for questions though.
Rolled 56>>275612235 resource points?
>>27561260Has monster presence picked up significantly?What exactly are these "rare" items the ghouls need to stockpile?
>>27561271Erh correction 35 resource points.
>>27561223>27900 people excluding fleshies and borgs and stuffOh god we're getting there, if it weren't for those damned zombie hives.
>>27561274Partially.Ghouls wont say just saying that they are waiting for a certain resupply.
Rolled 51>>27561276I'm not sure what direction the finerger biter fish can be taken in...
>>27561260Gonna thread tommorow EDE?>>27561315I. . .hmm, I'll have to sleep on that.
>>27561315>>27561340I got IT.An arm fish.That bites the stump of a severed arm.The molds right back into a perfectly good arm.Two strongarms for the strongarms.
Rolled 75>>27561367What sort of interesting properties do the fingerbiters have? Or does it require more research?
>>27561381Requires more research.
>>27561377Or. . .or. . .a bigger fish that bites somethings head off and replaces it as the brain, for control of the body.
Rolled 53>>27561395We should set Richard to this. (War-Criminal tier scientist...looking at fish.)
Rolled 63Well, we suddenly have a shitload of trade goods...Props to the guy who's idea it was to make the brewery.
>>27561475We better plan to start selling Memor Mojo and beat out any competitors.And then if we're being threatened "no more Memor Mojo". That ought to get them running to our aid.
>>27561475Brewery has some kinks to work out considering how many heroes you assigned to it.
>>27561475Thanks. It's yet another step towards a sucessful Operation Market Garden.>>27561504We'll work out the kinks later. Heh, maybe something good'll come out of that too if we're lucky.
Rolled 18>>27561475We could combine the hops plants with genes from the plant that grows massively with radiation (though it sounds like Claire might've already done that).>>27561500Or we say "Hey guys, if these guys attack us we'll have to cut back on the Memor Mojo." And a ravening horde of Hillbillies descends upon them.
Rolled 74>>27561504What sort of kinks? Aside from the ghoul-eating plants, that is.On another note, we should probably just go out and raid hostile bandit bases the next few times we need resources. We need to be careful not to piss off the stronger bandit factions though.EDE, do the bandits have population growth?
Rolled 88>>27561560Like, our bandits.
>>27561590>>27561560Also on that note, what is Bandit society like?Do they have wives and families? Or is growth via recruitment? Specifically ours.
Rolled 47>>27561504Also, does our disc of the bases show any bases hitherto unknown and/or unoccupied (like Burke's base was)?Let's name Burke's base "Lair Burke" you know, keep the theme and keep it simple.
>>27561641I'm so used to calling in Base 02. Does that make us Lair EDE?
>>27561504I think I'll try to find and collate information on all the heroes and their traits/abilities, and information on the traits/abilities of all the units we have names for. I'm thinking I'll also try to get together a list of researchable items. Would you like me to look for anything else? Can anyone here think of anything else that needs to be collated across threads?
>>27561668See : >>27553640Usually he calls it "Lair EDE".
>>27561668Though "Lair" might be a bit of a misnomer in this case because we never converted it to a lair.
>>27561701Not sure. You could gather all of EDE's post on a month by month basis, like a history of our people.Oh, also our numerous "guests" still avaliable and research items that we have hiterhto untouched.
>>27561730Maybe also important characters, named and unnamed?
>>27561504The Umbra corp extraction, what was it like? What did the team look like?
>>27561773Yes, were they in advanced power armor? What vehicles did they come in? etc.
And can we get a link to the last thread?
Jesus fuck EDE, you're messy.
>>27562466What do you mean?
>>27562523I'm trying to compose a guide/collate pertinent information from all the threads. It was a headache just to straighten out the chronological order of all the links in the archives.
>>27562538Haven't you tried Suptg?
>>27562560Yeah, it's the numbers on the threads themselves are wrong sometimes, and sometimes the months don't advance per turn like they should, and sometimes the links between threads are broken.... blech.
>>27562634Looks like EDE is in need of a major update to his programming
>>27562720Bah, I won't be able to finish this by tomorrow. Maybe by Tuesday but not tomorrow.