Rolled 87Last time in Mutant Hivemind we got our asses kicked by zombies(big time too user). We did manage to give the Super Mutants a bloody nose though. The Swamp is buzzing with activity thanks to the rampant zombie hordes that beyond being spawned from their hives are erupting from the very ground itself. The bandits are holding the lines at their bases barely. Mostly due to them deploying dirty bombs underground. The ghouls meanwhile are desperately trying to hold of a GIGANTIC Zombie horde. Things were going well the zombies seemed to have been routed with nukes...until they erupted from the ground among the ghoulish ranks breaking them. Quickly the so called rout was reversed. The other ghoul bases meanwhile have also deployed dirty bombs and dispatched reinforcements to hold the line. Looks like the ghouls plan to fight numbers with numbers. Mutation vs tech. NEWS We have been invited to attend the Coalition meeting. Basically where mutants, ghouls, and bandits go to bitch at each other. This years meeting we will be hosting. Apparently the Viroz had given permission for this for entire years. Not that much gets done usually.
Rolled 43>>27521902>>>>>>Food: VERY LOW>>>>>>Water: good>>>>>>Morale: Average>>>>>>Armaments level: nigh nonexistent >>>>>>reputation level: [REDACTED] so evil not even an A.I. can state just how so...>>>>>>Infrastructure: Fast Breeder Reactor(online) Biofuel Emergency Generators. Biofuel purifier. Biofuel Production Facility+. Barracks. Private Quarters. Storage labs(glowing flowers, finger biter fish, experimental fluids). Medbay. Laboratory. Workshop. Armory. biology splicing chamber. biotech research labs. biostorage facility. Psionic research department. A.I. Core. chemical warehouse. Secure warehouse. Holding cells. Holding tanks. Offices. Data Storage. Super Computers. Bionics lab. Cloning facility(occupied). Nanite bed(busted). Broodnest. Lovenest+. Crystal Grove. Swarm Vats. Sac Nest. Egg Garden+. >>>>>>Defenses: Reinforced Buildings. Reinforced Gate. sand bags. Two bunkers. walled compound. sensor tower, Death Trap. Defense systems Online. Ghoulish Reaver Defense Matrix. >>>>>>vehicles:1 Digga Drilla. 0 bandit spider tanks(biofuel) 0 Paramilitary spider tank(runs on biofuel). 0 plasma thrower spider tank(biofuel). 0 laser battery spider tank(biofuel). 3 transports crawlers(biofuel). 9 siege mk1.2 tanks. 2 'metal rain' artillery. 5 swamp walkers. 1 booty tap trap layer. 3 Piercing Demon(BIG holes small target) 4 Plasma Baby(YOU SAID RADIATION IS BAD FOR YOU) 3 BOOM-town( you said WHAT) 4 Bloody Bandit(Extra bloody and BEATTA) 3 Paramilitary Supreme(I can't hear you over the sound of how AWESOME I am) 0 doom buggies. 0 bombardier (if you thought boomtown had boom you don’t know BOOM) 2 Forsaken Bandit (When solo go FORSAKEN) Hover craft(limited). Hilly Billy(Limited). >>>>>>Power: Fast breeder reactor(infinite...freaking ghouls), emergency biofuel generators, 10 mini reactors>>>>>>materials: concrete, plastic, acid flesh and rock, Industrial chemicals, medical supplies. rusted metal.
Rolled 99>>27521969>>>>>>Weapons: Pistols, Assault Rifles, Grenades, rifles, Traitorous Battle Rifles very limited, sniper rifles, smg, shotguns, flame thrower, mono knives, stun batons, spears, elemental spewers very limited (flame acid, electric, plasma mk1). Elemental Variants/ammo. heavy weaponry basic. Psionic Railgun(crude). Hilly Billy weapons(limited).>>>>>>armor: Environmental protection body armor. mk 2 power armor(limited 20 suits),125 Marauder plate. Chamleze body armor(100 suits). Hilly Billy Armor(limited).>>>>>>Technology: Super Advanced biolabs, Complex A.I. flower research(complete), spider tank conversion, Hydra, Super Spider Tanks(Markus edition), serum mutant. Mutagen Serum. Psi crystals. SpiderBorgs. Psionic tech(crude). >>>>>>psionics: Hivemind, Mind blank, Nexus ME, Overmind, Hive to Hive, No Limits. Wrath. Psionic Stealth.>>>>>>communications: hivemind, short range radio, Overmind>>>>>>Mutations: Base, Hivemind. Toughness.Memor 2600Strong Arm 1400Vizen 1500Buggers 1400Rix 1300Viroz 1400Mulic 800Ortor 800Tectus 300
What of the Hillbilly bandit war?Will they be attending?Also when is the coalition?
Also, considering how closer we edge to the pop/strength required for the national border with each chapter gonna post this proposal I drew up. If anyone has objections, concerns, or additions your input is greatly valued.Operation "Market Garden">Phase 1 - TillingAfter the establishment of a national borders,insurance to stability of the territory within, and after the area has been properly deforested and drained, efforts shall be undergone as to the beautification, cultural enhancing, and general improvement of conditions to facilitate livelihood. That is, the creation of roads, lawns, and construction of recreational facilities. Of great importance is the establishment of expanded farming and agricultural systems in the new land as well, complete with Dr. Claires botanical expertise.Though initially this will be done with the full weight of our construction crews, later it is a mere matter of spiderborgs and spiderborg ST's to maintain it all.Sidenote: Possible inclusion of non hivemind allies within the territory or creation of border towns of equal value of existing Ghoul/Bandit towns, to remove the difficulty of having to completely clear the territory within tier 1 border.
>>27522135>Phase 2 - TellingThe territory shall be proclaimed a neutrality zone, a sanctuary and safe haven for all manner of sentient creature willing to orderly participate. Friends or foes, all conflict and machines of war must be left outside the borders. Just as none can become a Memor with animosity in ones heart, so too can none enter the neutrality zone with violence in his mind. Refugees of all kinds are welcome to stay, those willing to stay permanently have the incentive of a hearth and home, once joining the mind. Those who do not wish to join may/must leave in peace after a time.Advertising shall also take place. This is especially directed at those with items to trade or willing to conduct trade within our borders. As such this is especially marketed towards prospective caravans wishing to set up shop or find refuge in the swamp. The creation of a centralized market and bazaar shall be a priority. In addition we shall also make effort as a major refueling station, seeing as how we have great biofuel facilities and access to much biomaterial. Tarrifs and tolls shall be appropriated where deemed necessary.>Phase 3 - SellingUpon completion of phase 2, final efforts shall be made to maximize profits and gains. These include the numerous "recreational facilities", replica's of the lovenest, where guests of all can find many different forms of entertainment. Food, alchohol, and all manner of women with the peak collective knowledge of our race the great sensual deletion. In addition, other forms of entertainment are also encouraged, such as the potential of building arena's for the combatative sports, and coordination with local bandits for the annual Bandit GamesThis is yet another incentive to convince potential recruits to stay as well as put in good word for our nation.In short, we have the potential to benefit of trade, recruitment, and bettered reputation from all nation. And establishing a place that everyone would be discontent if threatened
Rolled 30>>27521988New base Unamed.Max pop 25000(5000 Security Depot+Burk's Bunker)Current Pop 6000>Food: Poor>Water: good>Morale: Poor>Armaments level: Good(paramilitary/Black Ops)>Weapons:Pistols. assault rifles. Grenades. Sniper rifles. Shotguns. Smg. Mono trench knives. Elemental Weaponry MK 3. Heavy Weaponry Advanced. >Armor: Containment Sealed Power Armor Mk 1.50. Stealth Power Armor Mk 1.5. Experimental HyCyBo Power Armor. Combat Armor mk 2.5. Scout Armor mk 2.0. Infrastructure: Ammo depot. Parts Warehouses. Garage. Vehicle Bay. Target Practice. Virtual Training Lab. Barracks(Massive). Officer quarters(Deluxe). Morale Bar(and more). Mess Hall. Farms. Gym. Medical Bay(elite).>Defenses: Defense Matrix. Omega Class Bunker network. Burrower Deterrence system. Quarantine Kill Release. Detection System Network Experimental (specialized Counter)>Vehicles:250 hovers. 250 Walkers. 500 Bug vehicles. 500 Spider vehicles. 500 wheeled vehicles. 50 choppers. 25 VertibirdsAll military grade.Pop Specifics1000 Super Soldiers Dr. Volk edition 4000 ghoul 1000 Spec GhoulsMonth 160>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice6 Resource points.Bioborg STs have largely been completed research wise. WARNING Food stocks are most poor.WARNING. Armaments have been largely exhausted. New settlements Ghoulish Dens are under construction around our facility.
Rolled 78>>27522078The Hillbilly bandit war has lead to the bandits on their eastern border being successfully expunged. Now they are focusing northward. As for them to be attending negative. Like I noted earlier user they HATE Outsiders and DESPISE each other. In approximately 5 turns time.
>>27522162>Bioborg STs have largely been completed research wise. So we can presume the following are true?Was thinking of new names for ease of nomenclature/differentation of borgspiders and BorgST's.>Constructor - Fixer equivalent. An assortment of heavyduty construction implements. Armed with buzzsaws,cranes, claws, bulldozer blade, backhoe loader, riveting guns, and dumpbucket, and an assortment of industrial implements for the processing of meat, scrap, or dirt. As the fixer, can make repairs to other ST's and even larger vechs on the field. As such repairs may no longer take an action move to make but rather be automated.>Matriarch - Mother equivalent. Nearly an SST in her own right, most powerful of the BorgST's. Manufactures eggs from consumed flesh/steel. Carries dozens of proto borgST's on its back as the const/fix spiders nurture them>Webber - Webby equivalent. Chews foilage/monster meat into one of strongest material on earth. Where webbers could seal leaks in machinery pipes, this one can seal leaks in dams or river banks, in groups capture even a great monster. Sticky webs wrek havoc on enemy machinery and all manner of legged things.>Bomb Layer - Feeler equivalent. rather than mines, lays large bombs of the type to combat vehicles and monsters.>Leaper - Jumper equivalent. A leaping tank. With great jaws that snap tree's like twigs in seconds. Entirely offensive, close quarters, on par with even normal swamp monster.With cooperation with Webbers also dig itself into a trapdoor, and lure in unsuspecting enemy tanks into a deathtrap.
>>27522348>Leaper ST capable of being retrofitted with the older ST variants (Bandit, Artillery, Plasma, Laser, and Transport). Once refitted it loses the self replicable bonus, but gain a significant weapon and pilot training bonus.This process is carried out by the fixer-constuctor cooperation for maximum resource gathering/upgrading efficiency with relatively low cost.>BorgST's are connected to Richards hivenet for complete cooperation and synchronization with the existing Spiderborg network.>Repairs/replacements/construction of other BorgST's are carried out automatically by both Fixer spiders and Constructor ST's and no longer require a basic move.>Spiderborgs are also capable of, rather than laying another borgST egg in a monster corpse, laying an egg filled with a mother or hundreds of normal borgST's and starting a nest
Rolled 75Alert Doctor Claire is currently visiting the bunker overhauling their farms much to Burk's annoyance. Ghouls who were former zombies. Are basically blank slates according to Irewin. So long as they stay fed they wont go feral...problem is there may not be enough food to go around. Which leads to survival of the fittest scenario. Our armaments have been exhausted in our own facilities. There was such a demand for them we even had to tap into the Bunker stores. Currently they are busy fending feasting upon nearby zombie hordes, constructing their dens, and acquiring vehicle wrecks for ghoulish conversion. The new type of mutant ghouls we have sent samples to Richard. He has promised to look into zombie strains and these new types. In that regard we already got a message. Apparently somehow the zombie mutants got ghoulified. Which is normally non existent. It seems a mutation may have occurred with either the ghoulish pathogen itself or the wrong zombie mutation had an unfortunate side effect. Either way unlike most ghouls who are human like somewhat...mutant types are not. At best their a twisted humanoid. Most of them are beastly if not outright monstrous .
Rolled 91>>27522162>Basic 1Have Dr. Clair work in conjunction with construction crews to improve our farming capabilities>Basic 2Using our new Webber BorgST's, in addition to the usual hunting crews of Tectus et. all, find and capture several mid-low tier monsters back to the base. Have Dr. Claire an any other biologist/health professionals determine which ones are edible>Basic 3I leave basic 3 for someone elses suggestion.
Rolled 18>>27522368Retrofitting of BioBorg STs is not currently possible. We do have a prototype available however. Monster corpses cannot produce Spiderborgs even with eggs. Nest occurance is rather strange. Considering the hostility of the swamp nests to stick close to our settlements for protection otherwise they would be overwhelmed. As is however it is worth noting that though they can reproduce it requires resources.
>>27522388Are the ghouls still up to trading armaments for more ghouls?>>27522230Dammit, without that line of bandits whose going to buffer our western flank?
>>27522474Noted.We'll have to figure out how a better BorgST design to be more cost-efficient and self dependent later.Is there a natural BorgST reproduction rate, even if slow? Or shall we still have to take turns building them, but at least its cheap?
Rolled 81>>27522474>Monster corpses cannot produce Spiderborgs even with eggs. Nest occurance is rather strange. Considering the hostility of the swamp nests to stick close to our settlements for protection otherwise they would be overwhelmed.But surely with BorgST's protecting them they can expand their jurisdiction, if only a little yes?
Rolled 30>>27522523Their reproduction rate is natural but slow. To many predators for even them. You can speed up the process if you want its worth noting that 1 resource grants you 5 spiderborgs or 1 spiderborg Matriarch of your choice. At the moment we have only 1 nest. >>27522568Its very slow going at the moment they are undergoing a rather fascinating evolution. It seems they have begun to do odd things with the ghouls and even some roaming mutant groups.
Rolled 97>>27522422I say we give 500 normal ghouls for whatever arms they can spare. We've got to many mouths and not enough food to spare as is.
>>27522422>>27522614Voting for this. Using those rolls.
Rolled 75>>27522614Reason why food is so low is assimilating the new ghouls we have acquired. They can feed themselves to a degree but they sorta have to be trained first to be of much use. Otherwise instead of ghouls that can learn we get stuck ferals. irewin is doing what he can but so many ghouls with so few wranglers is making it difficult.>>27522485Western line of bandits are still hanging on its just the bandit presence of the West Marsh is being purged. Now they only got true north left to deal with.
Rolled 44>>27522422I'm sure whatever we can't eat the Ghouls can.>>27522657Thirding
Rolled 9>>27522737Need an action for the third one. The slot is till open.
>>27522766>Trade 500 Ghouls with Ghouls camps for weapons, since we're having difficulty managing feeding them all
>>27523017Of course. . .
Rolled 11>>27523017Goddammit anon, consensus was already reached
Rolled 40>>27523017Shit.Hey EDE, there is a 100 that you didn't use last thread. Can we have a free ticket?http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/27455234/#27462147
Rolled 62>>27523017hm tasty.>>27523069Already used it last thread. Dr. Clair has made some breakthroughs for a our food production as 'now safe for human consumption'! Other then that our farms got overhauled with whatever the hell it is that she figured out how to make. Even managed to get Clora'Zel to take a look and improve on even more...though our farms are kinda overgrown thanks to that.Basic 2 most monsters are editable especially if you got a mutant or even ghoul gut. Hell even humans can consume most monsters to a degree. Some however are quite toxic even for mutants.Ghouls have been handed off to nearby ghoul factions in exchange for some armaments. Or at least that was supposed to happen as it turns out ghouls fucking HATE slavery, when you try to sell them their own especially when they are sentient still. As it turns out they only 'enslave' other creatures for food. While they view ferals as pets. Basically they are more then a little pissed at us at the moment nor did we get our ghouls back for that matter. Lesson learned today. Ghouls may like eating people but they don't like slavery unless for food. Month 161>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice5 Resource points.NewsZombie hordes are gathering up together to form HUGE ones.The ghoulish lines are about to crumble before the GIGANTIC Zombie horde. They just can't deal with being attacked from all sides much less above or below as well.
>>27522348>>27522368We also have Plasma ST Bioborg STs, and they're also self-replicating.
>>27523122>They just can't deal with being attacked from all sides much less above or below as well.We're brining this up in the Coalition.These damned tunnel networks are a threat to all of us and something must be done.
>>27523122>Ghouls have been handed off to nearby ghoul factions in exchange for some armaments. Or at least that was supposed to happen as it turns out ghouls fucking HATE slavery, when you try to sell them their own especially when they are sentient still. As it turns out they only 'enslave' other creatures for food. While they view ferals as pets. Basically they are more then a little pissed at us at the moment nor did we get our ghouls back for that matter.Whoa we started enslaving sentients? I thought we were collecting ferals and trading like before. When did we decide to do that?
>>27523155There's not really time for that. If we don't reinforce the ghouls now then we're going to be facing the full force of the gigantic zombie horde (and our military is a pittance against their) before the Coalition even begins.Also, EDE noted that we would have to develop a new type of Bioborg ST if we wanted automatic resource collection. We have a new prototype (of our specification, I believe, though EDE didn't explicitly say so) available. Now may not be the best time though, what with our one flank about to imminently buckle, and the other also being close to buckling and held by a bunch of swarthy dishonorable do-no-gooders.
Rolled 68>>27523187Those 'ghouls' you tried trading were not feral.
>>27523217We're dishonorable do-no gooders. At least the Bandits have their use, the Hillbillies are basically taking away a very comfy buffer from our west and leaving us more open in that direction.In any event let's review our midterm goals>Sending immediate military assistance to the ghouls, somehow>Holing up and bunkering down until the coalition meeitng in 4 turns. Maybe get some science done.>Other?By the way we ever get some crystal work done last thread? Did the Doomcanon ever get started?
>>27523236Which is what concerns me. Last I remember we collected ferals only. Collecting sentients against there will is a bad idea, for relations especially.
Rolled 70>>27523122Well it seems we need to help the ghouls, now. How do we go about doing that? We don't have nearly the strength that the ghouls do, so we need to fight smarter, not harder.Captcha: ProNn presencePerhaps we use our psionics to broadcast porn into the ghouls' mind in the heat of battle. The promise of what lies ahead if they win drives them to new heights of ferocity and they demolish the zombie horde.
Rolled 72>>27523261Nah, we don't have enough crystals for the doom cannon. I think we have low-mediocre crystal railguns now though, but not many of them.On the upside, all of our troops got their basic strength and speed upgraded. Also, we have the bioproduction facilities: Hell Hole, Egg Nest+, Sack Nests, and whatever the basic-tier ones were
Rolled 50>>27523283Nah that is when you just have Richard delete their Pron and then blame the zombies user.
>>27523283>Perhaps we use our psionics to broadcast porn into the ghouls' mind in the heat of battleErm. . .that idea is noted.I think their morale is perfectly fine, their ferocity is tied to their hunger and survival skills. Plus I'm not sure they'd be fond of that nor do we have the reach. What we should do if we're going for immediate military air is deal with the zombie camp to the east that's pinning the both of us down.
Rolled 75>>27523334We've tried ve to pry at that particular hive loads of times though, and each time we sent a scout they barely made it out with their skins.What we can do is possibly upgrade our radioactive abilities. The Novakon are a good base for some kind of radiation generating creation by Clora or Richard.We could shower the hive with artillery produced by them and give us and the gouls a big bonus.
Rolled 64>>27523334That's a good idea, what do we use to do it? We have a considerable for of fleshbeasts (though Clora is currently depressed), and a hefty force of feral ghouls (though Irewin, their leader, was recently trapped in a zombie hive and blew it up with a nuke somehow...so he may not be the most willing to go back into one). Our mutants are more numerous than in the past, but we're very ill trained so in combat we tend to stat-out to be pretty flimsy.
Rolled 33>>27523399*artillery shells loaded with radiation
Rolled 34Its worth noting that if we deploy our forces to reinforce the ghouls they are going to have to avoid the growing zombie hordes and make it there. Which may take a while as in a 1 turn for our forces to reach them.
Rolled 54>>27523399Our artillery would be susceptible to counterattack (it always is, OPs never let us shoot at something from safety), but that's the best idea thus far I think.
Rolled 52>>27523454What out have you set up for us this time, you sly A.I., you?
>>27523407Well >>27523399 sounds promising, if we can research a radiation based weapon.Speaking of which I also had another idea for a proposed BorgST variant that could possibly come in handy here. I thought of it with SHW in mind, but it could work against zombieflesh just as well.>Spiderborg Spewer and BorgST Sprayer - Armed with a stinger and spraying glands/hoses. Anti-Flesh dedication. Holds two tanks filled with highly caustic alkali and acid, respective, as well as an array of other poisons we have developed that can be sprayed at great distance. Melt their flesh right off the bones, and then melt the bones. Our biofacilities should be able to produce chemicals in great number.>Tactics include spraying into monsters eyes, jumping on monsters as webbers cocoon them and stining them with anisthetics for captures/take downs, and melting/sabotaging enemy vechs. Acid/Alkali combo very effective against enemy flesh.
>>27523334I'm still havn't completely caught up on the archive but I Think I've read enough to know somewhat what I'm talking about (though more recent events are kind of iffy for me)I'm going to propose (again) some new mutations. 1. Increased fertility2. Giving birth to tripplets instead of single Babies.3. The ability for the consensus to override the wishes of individuals of the hivemind (to stop rogues or derranged individuals. can also be used to create a suicide solder if the need is great)and to make 2 new races.1. The artificial womb whose role is soley to take the eggs and sperm of other races and give birth to working Youngs that is 100% the donors race and has no relation to the Young other than having carried it to fruition.2. small hivemind nodes to be connected to bioborgs, tanks etc etc to remove the need for pilots and instead directly connect them to the hivemind to be controlled that way. also prevents any possible betrayal by Richard from being as fatal as it could be.We should also research a reliable killswitch for our old doomsday virus, so that we can release containers of it and having it wipe out all organics in a 1km radius etc. or having it replicate itself x times which would lead to a certain lifetime for the virus etc. This would lead to us actually being able to use the virus in fights and as a terror weapon without having to risk wiping out all Life (that should still be a backup plan while we hide in bunkers)
Rolled 20Do zombies have brains?We do have a decent supply of crystals.I was rethinking the idea of the "Silent Megaphone" devices. In addition to the psionic blast that is like nails on chalkboards x1000, we can also add high powered subwoofers for actual physiological disorientation and compound the debilitating effect.>Since we don't hear infrasonic frequencies very well, we are often unaware of exactly how loud the sounds are. At 130 dB, the inner ear will start undergoing direct pressure distortions unrelated to normal hearing, which can affect your ability to understand speech. >At about 150 dB, people start complaining about nausea and whole body vibrations, usually in the chest and abdomen. By the time 166 dB is reached, people start noticing problems breathing, as the low-frequency pulses start impacting the lungs, reaching a critical point at about 177 dB, when infrasound from 0.5 to 8Hz can actually drive sonically induced artificial respiration at an abnormal rhythm. In addition, vibrations through a substrate such as the ground can be passed throughout your body via your skeleton, which in turn can cause your whole body to vibrate at 4–8Hz vertically and 1–2Hz side to sidePin them down, and chop them to pieces.
>>27523533this sounds like a good plan. why not use it on low Power to just make them avoid areas and then herd them how we'd like them to go? into traps etc.
Rolled 68>>27523508>1. Increased fertility>2. Giving birth to tripplets instead of single Babies.Clora already does that to the best of her abilities. Inducing artificial mutation without genetic deg>3. The ability for the consensus to override the wishes of individuals of the hivemind (to stop rogues or derranged individuals. can also be used to create a suicide solder if the need is great)Also accomplished, at least for nonheroes. The common Memor is loyal to the core, but is also far more genetically precious for suicide missions>1. The artificial womb whose role is soley to take the eggs and sperm of other races and give birth to working Youngs that is 100% the donors race and has no relation to the Young other than having carried it to fruition.Apparently we already have those>2. small hivemind nodes to be connected to bioborgs, tanks etc etc to remove the need for pilots and instead directly connect them to the hivemind to be controlled that way. also prevents any possible betrayal by Richard from being as fatal as it could be.Also done, it's called Hivenet. And Richard's loyal hasn't come into question yet, we've been his best provider (so far)>We should also research a reliable killswitch for our old doomsday virus, so that we can release containers of it and having it wipe out all organics in a 1km radius etc. or having it replicate itself x times which would lead to a certain lifetime for the virus etc. This would lead to us actually being able to use the virus in fights and as a terror weapon without having to risk wiping out all Life (that should still be a backup plan while we hide in bunkers)Turns out the doomsday virus isn't as effective as we thought. Richard tried, but the smal swamp it covered just immunized within a week or so.
Rolled 31>>27523567*inducing artificial fertility without genetic degredation is already done to maximum effect
So for dealing with the hive we have>Increased radation weapons to boost our soldiers and ghoul health in battle>psionic Silent Megaphones with actual sonic weaponry>Acid spraying spiderborg and spiderborg ST's to melt zombie fleshAny other suggestions?
Rolled 15>>27523508Increased fertility and giving birth to triplets instead of single babies are under the same purview of "increased fertility".The hivemind already, for practical purposes, overrides the will of the individual. Our soldiers are suicide soldiers. That's actually the only reason we can still find people to pilot our vehicles We already have the artificial womb race, we acquired that when we acquired Clora'Zel, EDE mentioned it last thread.The hivemind nodes idea is good, though I'm not sure the hivemind works like that. I think that we would essentially have to breed a brain and integrate it into the vehicles as biotech in order for them to not need/get bonuses from having a pilot. Also, Bioborgs are already integrated into the Hivenet, so we can see what they see and direct their movement to a degree.The doomsday virus may or may not be feasible. Everyone that's anyone of import in this day and age seems to have means of neutralizing biological agents.
Rolled 71>>27523562>>27523533No on widespread psionics until we deal with She Who Hungers. We can't have another PsyField incident.
>>27523567Ah, nice. people listened to my proposal :D yay!!! I've been useful!!!okay. good, then most of my ideas have been implemented ^^ but if only the swamp is immunized then shouldn't we be able to use the virus vs the human/zombie enemies with impunity without worrying about the apocalypse? If not I suggest we research a better virus.And Richards loyalty still seems sketchy to me. What happens when a better offer comes along? Or he gets bored of us? Such a risk should have contingencies in case the worst happens. Also for dealing with the zombies. Why not create a natural predator, just a small insect whose entire diet consists of zombies? A swarm of locust that eats all the zombies and then dies of as the only food they could digest disappeared?
Rolled 70>>27523664The Heart of the Swamp evolved monsters on a scope that we couldn't hope to recreate By the way, OP has hinted that we can figure out how to control the swamp monsters and they're running amok and still aren't enough to deal with the zombies...so I don't think that'll work.I like your fresh ideas though, keep up the spirit New-Memor
>>27523664>And Richards loyalty still seems sketchy to me. What happens when a better offer comes along? Or he gets bored of us? Such a risk should have contingencies in case the worst happens.We've given him everything, pledged our loyalty to him.Also there's Clora, she and him already have an intertwined fate in the past and she's very loyal to us, being part of the mind and considering us her brood (which to a degree we are)He has a lot to lose by leaving us.>Also for dealing with the zombies. Why not create a natural predatorAlready exist. It's called Ghouls>just a small insect whose entire diet consists of zombies? A swarm of locust that eats all the zombies and then dies of as the only food they could digest disappeared?Spiderborgs and SpiderborgST's. But the sheer number of them is what prevents that, as well as the swamp being hostile to even the more powerful insects the size of vehicles. We actually have fleshbeast mosquitoes, but their not entirely apt for that kind of effect and their as big as we can make them and still fly. The swamp is too dangerous for that type of creature to survive.
>>27523714I was wondering if next peacetime we should capture a monster using our best hunters and new WebberST's.Maybe Richard could borgify one and give it a computer brain. We'll have to do that shit in the hellhole though in case, well, hell breaks loose.By the way EDE, hows Didrickson and his hunt of the monster of monsters? Has captain ahab got the whale or did the whale get him?
Rolled 50>>27523766I think that we'll know when Dirdrikson finishes his hunt. Who wants to take bets on the biggest monster being She Who Hungers?
>>27523723>>27523714Hmm, how about chaning it to an insect that hijacks the zombies neurollogical system at the spine perhaps? And obeys the hivemind, instant mindcontrolled zombies. And we could also change them to affect other creatures, And perhaps make it so that they procreate a Little inside the host and then when Another potential host is nearby they are released to infect that one as well. From that we could due to exponential growth soon have entire zombie swarms under our controll. And potentially other creatures. And since they are inside the zombies they need not fear a lot of the predators that would otherwise hunt them.
Rolled 81>>27523766He is having no luck and he is beginning to suspect that someone beat him to the punch. Or so it seems the monster seems to still be around yet not.
Rolled 3>>27523786What you're proposing is that we make a disease that zombifies zombies into hivemind-zombies. I'm not sure about that. Last time we messed around with mind-control parasites it didn't turn out so well. To be fair we apparently have permanent immunity to all mind-control diseases since that incident occurred.
Rolled 67>>27523831Only if its Brood user.
>>27523786We attempted a parasite that does just that.Instead it put us all to sleep, except the viroz, like something out of Sleeping Beuty. We were lucky to escape unharmed and with hibernation benefits.
>>27523831>>27523858I say we take what we learned from that and improve the design then. Find out what Went wrong and fix it, start small with trials of small parts of the hivemind that are cut off from the rest and experiment until we get it to work.Add failsafes that prevents backlashes etc.
Rolled 47, 45 = 92>>27523454If EDE recommends it, I aprove it.>Basic 1We send an adequate support force to reinforce ghoul positions 1 Plasma baby and 200 of our best soldiers as well as Novakon for a radiation bonus>Basic 2Research Silent Megaphone with additional sonic concussion effect prototype>Basic 3Clora researches either a mutative upgrade to the Novakon's radiation abilities, or perhaps a fleshbeast that mimics their radioactive effects>MAD SCIENCERichard develops the Spewer spider/Sprayer BorgSTUse first roll for mad science
>>27523922We could try that, but I don't know if we have the time to wait for that kind of research to fruit.
Rolled 78>>27523846Well how about:>Basic 1Design chemical-spewing anti-flesh Bioborg STs/Spiderborgs>Basic 2Send Irewin out with all the ghouls (excepting the non-sentient mutant-zombie conversions) to help the ghouls. He can take all of the vehicles that are ghoulish with him.>Basic 3Improve Novakon fleshbeasts radiation potentialMad ScienceDevelop a zombie brain-parasite that will put them under the control of the hivemind.On another note, what, to the best of your knowledge, are the spiderborgs doing with the local zombies and mutants?
Rolled 84>>27523925Sounds good to me. Psionics pin them down, sprayers melt them into delicious zombie soup.
>>27523982Don't you think, that being Richard, he'd give a better bonus for spiderborg research over a flesh based parasite that's likely Clora's territory?We could basic 1 and mad science.
Rolled 56>>27523925>>27523984I can't approve of anything that broadcasts psionic energy indiscriminately right now. I encourage you to remember what happened last time we did something indiscriminate using the crystals/psionics My vote is firmly no on developing Silent Megaphones.
>>27523950Well. virus bomb the zombies ( I assume they are one of the few factions that don't have immunity. seeing as they are pretty mindless and genetically stable) to solve that problem and then go on researching? Or if we've already researched that bug earlier it should be a lot easier and faster making an improved version of it now. we might want to add in some kind of buffer that takes the brunt of the psychic force that comes from forcing something like that.Not sure how old mindcontroll bugs worked. But if these just hijack the neurological system the host won't be part of the hivemind and risk affecting it. just the bug that uses the host like a puppet will be part of the hivemind. just like any of the other races in it. just saying ^^
>>27524006*switch basic 1 "Sprayer ST" research to mad science. Basic 1 becomes the paraiste research with Clora
>>27524014It's not indiscriminantly, it's directed just like the railguns are.But if you're so paranoid perhaps all crystal/psionic stuff should be put to a halt. Even railguns. Maybe we could set up a lab in the wastelands in case that shit goes south or we can judge the effects
Rolled 86>>27524036setting up a lab in the wastelands is a good idea, but not right now too dangerous.The wastelands seem to be where a lot of psionic stuff comes from. The prophet is always interested in it (didn't he find some psionic mutants there?) and we found crystals there too.
>>27524055Maybe there's some kind of natural psionic background/presence there. Could help us hide psionic experiments. Could be the reason crystals grow there too.
Rolled 52>>27523982I'll vote for this then, except switch Basic 1 and Mad science because Richard would be better at Speweres/Sprayers.We need to test the saftey of our all our psionic weapons from a better distance.
Rolled 74>>27524055He, well, he found the Ortor actually now that I think of it, he also found the crystals, and there are mutants there (which are possibly psionic, he just didn't manage to get any others to come back with him)Linking in case.>>27523982
>>27524125And that's our roll.Turn off your dice guys.
Rolled 54>>27524125NNOOO well guess that makes up for the 1...
Rolled 18>>27524125AWWWW YISSSSSSSS>Pic related, what the zombies will be like with our new brainbugs
Hmm. I'm just brainstorming right now. But couldn't we possibly in the future create either a powerful mutagen, or a bug to carry a mutagen and infect the watersupplies etc of the human cities to make the humans mutate a receptibility for the hivemind and a natural tendency to link up to it. Our population could skyrocket if this works out. Then we could easilly mutate those into what we want them to be, or have them take any Resources they could to us, etc.This won't be like a mindcontroll bug since the humans will be mutated into a being that seeks to join. The whole consentual joining part can easilly be bypassed by having the mutation include obsessive tendencies towards the instictive joining with the hivemind.If there is a reason this wouldn't work please tell me ^^ just trying to come up with lots of stuff that could help us in hopes that some of them would work.
Rolled 80>>27523982>Declaring MAD SCIENCE ROLLCaptcha: deksele strengthWhy yes, our bioborg spewers will have strength in dekseles
>>27524204YEEEES :D My ideas seem to have been useful again xD I'm so happy :3
Rolled 32>>27524196We looked at making a persuasion serum, but stopped pursuing it due to more pressing matters. I think that water sources are bound to be heavily guarded, and that they'll be heavily purified before anyone in significant population centers drinks the water. On another note, holy fuck you're evil. Poisoning a water supply to make an entire population want to become mutants? Good thing we're already [REDACTED] level evil.
>>27524196We have developed a mutagen serum that mutates humans. The issue is they still must consent directly to us to join the mind. In addition, failure causes massive backlash.We're also working on a suggestion serum.
Rolled 96>>27524214>>27524196Your ideas are good, but keep in mind that we're in the post-apoc and that the world is probably more significantly fucked by what the Old World did than we even realize from all the incredibly horrific things we've encountered thus far.
>>27524249Darn, I guess we'll have to make it airborne or carried by mosquitoes or something then. *suddenly there is an explosion destroying a building, people rush to see what happened, help out or loot. A month passes and everyone that breathed the air within 500m of the explosion starts feeling depressed and lonely in a way that can't be alleviated by any ammount of human interaction. It gets worse and worse while an urge to do something arises, like the need to sneeze this urge is to listen to the distant whisper they can hear in their mind. Eventually they give in to this primal urge and embrace the hivemind, no longer lonely they rejoice"
Rolled 21>>27524323It's a good idea. I can see exactly that scenario going down with our Vizen spies being the perpetrators. Except then the people who experience the whisper are confronted by beautiful women who offer them exactly what they've been increasingly yearning for.That being said, we need to be careful about even pseudo-forced conversions like that. And again, you're so evil we'll just become known as "Those Who We Do Not Name" if we carry out these ideas.
Rolled 95>>27524125Well you know how we asked Richard to come up with those spewers/spayers user? He kinda did...if you don't mind them being able to spew and I quote 'PLASMA, FIRE, LOIGHTING, ACID(ALL EAATAH KOINDS), ICE, AND RADAIATIOOOONS WE EVEN GOT ONES THAT SCREEEMS. WHY ELSE YOU THINK I AM FORCED TO TALK LIKE THIS. STILL HAVEN'T GOT THE DAMN THING TO SHUT UP."-Oh shit WHAT TORG HOW DID YOU GET IN HERE?TO MAKE THINGS GO BBOOOMMMM!!WAIT NO ANYTHING BUT THE SPEWE-Connection got cut out there user. Irewin went of to reinforce the ghouls. During his journey they managed to link with a incredible number of ghoulish warbands and even FUCK HUGE numbers of ferals. They even manged to link up with some Reavers who apparently what some good ol fashion slaughter house fun.Novakon's got upgraded...if you can considered have several unshielded nuclear bio reactors strapped into them an upgrade.Mad Science!After we lost contact with Richard do to the INEVITABLE BOOM. Clora'Zel heard we wanted a parasite for zombie hi jacking and stated why we never bothered looking into the parasite that even fucked the Memor up....Month 161>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice3 Resource points.NewsOur forces will arrive to face of the GIGANTIC ZOMBIE HORDE next turn. You will have may choose to command the battlefield or control a hero unit if you so desire. Otherwise I will just do the usual writefaggotry.
Rolled 78>>27524413So we have a variety of self-reproducing close-combat oriented Bioborg STs now?I vote for Commanding the battlefield/controlling a hero unit.
>>27524379You flatter me :3Hmm. For mechanical enemies such as STs etc, could we possibly create tiny bioborgs that sneak into them, searching for the reactors causing them to go critical. Or if that doesn't work other vital systems or hydralics etc. or just make the ammo storage go BOOM.This method is also unlikely to be discovered for atleaso some time and therefore continue to be effective seeing as any successfull operation with this would also erase any evidence of them existing. And this way we could eliminate large parts of the enemys forces Before the figthing even begins, either just the tank. or the tank and anything around it in case of reactors. or fuel/ammo storages.>>27524413I say we command.
Rolled 17>>27524504Excepting shitty improvised low-tier bandit vehicles, armor is complete enough on vehicles that tiny crawly invadey things wouldn't be of use. I favor the development of EMP weapons, like what the Military Remnants' Psionic Commandoes used to fuck all of our SSTs when we attacked them. It left them intact and ready for refurbishing/salvage. (or in our case, Infection-Seed reclamation)
Rolled 43>>27524413Voting to command.I'm ready for a new battle. I was pissed after how close we got fighting the warbands with one of my strategies ages ago only to be fucked up bad a bad roll.
Rolled 100>>27524499One or the other anon.
Rolled 39>>27524569I uh....WHY DICE GODS WHY.
Rolled 74>>27524504>For mechanical enemies such as STs etc, could we possibly create tiny bioborgs that sneak into them, searching for the reactors causing them to go critical. Or if that doesn't work other vital systems or hydralics etc. or just make the ammo storage go BOOM.We have those. The Fixer spiders, and the Constructor BorgST's.The issue is they often also have countermeasures. Still, I can imagine how kickass they are when they can do that.>One of the favorite tactics of Leaper ST's is to load itself up with hundreds of fixers and jumpers on its back, who will cling on tight. It leaps onto an enemy tank or monster and uses its huge jaws to rip through the carcass and open up a hole, where then the hundreds of spiders on its back pour in on the unlucky tank pilots or sensitive innards of the monster. After this, the spiders use the corpse or the wreck and salvage it for resources to multiply.
>>27524543Hmm, that's why we add some kind of acid or other ways to force an entrance in some hard to see parts of the vehicle. These would not be in combat creatures, these would be let lose Days or weeks Before battle is joined so they have plenty of time to do what they need to. and then either when sufficient of them have breached their targets or they have started being discovered they all go off at once, either to just take them out. or to create confusion and an edge for our attack that comes then.>>27524569honestly O.o I don't Think I've ever seen a quest with this many crits :o
>>27524569Put that 100 into hero writefaggotry, charging through the battle inspiring our troops, while we take command as the hivemind.
Rolled 67>>27524504>>27524543>>27524546So we'll be commanding, now let's focus on our actions this turn.I'm thinking something along the lines of>Basic 1Research/produce/distribute (depending on which stage is applicable) brain-parasites>Basic 2Attempt to upscale Novakons into Egg Nest+ size creatures. (imagine behemoths that just irradiate vast swathes of land)>Basic 3Research mutant-zombies-ghouls (let's discover their secrets so we can improve our allies/convert our enemies into allies shall we?)Mad Science (I hope Richard's okay over there....)Creation of a persuasion serum that can be aerosolized or waterborne.
>>27524588ah, cool :D then we should instead focus on coming up with some way for them to bypass those countermeasures. going in at joints, having a way of entry that is not discovered, riding in on the pilots in the morning (depends on how big and easily discovered they are) etc.
Rolled 69>>27524595In that case we need to engineer a stealth/saboteur spiderborg. Something with a cloaking and muffling field, it'll be an entirely new type.
Rolled 22>>27524642>>27524595>>27524640And the stealth/saboteur spiderborgs (along with other normal ones) can have eggs carried into enemy encampments by Vizen spies. If we can build up a hefty population in the city to our north it'd ease our eventual invasion immensely.
>>27524625seconded.with the change that we do >>27524642instead of basic 2in case people don't back this then just go with what he said.
>>27524642All the spiders are already the best sabotuers in groups without sacrificing for balance.The fixers are armed with all sorts of cutting implements, blades, saws, slicers, powerful jaws.The feelers can lay mines in the underbelly or insides of enemies.And the webby's can spray web gunk in enemy machinery.All while Jumpers protect them from harm from enemies.They work as a team.
Rolled 78>>27524660I think giant novakons are more pressing, considering the giant zombie swarms (possible convertees, if you will) that are all over the place right now. You know how to roll, don't you? Type: dice+1d100 into your email field.
Rolled 10>>27524708Yes, I think he's talking about developing a unit to act on its own (or with just mothers) far away from our base/the swamp. I like the idea. Imagine the sewers/dark corners of the city swarming with stealthcloaked spiders that eat away at the enemy vehicles in depots to make more of themselves.
>>27524625Guys, there's also another issue about the serum.All it does is open up people to being persuaded, and this must be done in the vinicty of Clora's aura and have actual people trying to persuade them to open up.And in addition, it SEVERELY pisses off people with the intelligence and experience who can detect it. Like we nearly had 1000 bandits revolt on us because we tried it and they wised up to it. Sure it'll work on the weaker willed, but then we still have to get them to come out our base.Developing it for use in our base is a good idea, so long as we filter the strong from weak minded.
>>27524712yes. just forgot to roll thinking we had 3 rolls on it with probable success, not wanting ro risk the 1 :pWe wouldn't need the Giant novakons seeing as regular ones would do just as fine if we corral the zombies towards them with silent megaphones, lures etc.
Rolled 61>>27524743No, that was the mutation serum. We gave them the mutation serum (without them knowing it) and had Clora under the floor trying to persuade them to want to join the hivemind.I agree though, we should keep it in the base unless we have specific targets.
>>27524737In theory the hivenets range is 2500 miles. The issue isn't that they can't act on it's own. The issue is the swamp and tunnels are far to hostile for them to survive. Most of the existing nests surround our base for a reason.Under better circumstances, they'd probably populate the swamp ages ago.
>>27524737exactly :D this anon knows what's up.>>27524743well, we could just make it part of the mutation. make it a natural part of their biology. a simple instinctual craving.>>27524774That's why we take them OUT of the swamp to cities etc and let them flourish.
>>27524773No actually we didn't give them the mutation serum, we offered it to those who were willing to join the mind. The mutation serum just helps them mutate faster.If we just fed it to them without them accepting first, we would have people mutating who might not want to join, and that's just incriminating evidence against us. We offer it to them after they accept.They were mad about detecting Clora's call to them, but mostly because they were elites and experienced enough to detect it.
Rolled 34>>27524625All this debate aside, I'll concur with this (and I think it should stay as Novakons for now).Who's going to do the mad science roll?
>>27524802They'll have to deal with the city dwellers then. There's a bunch of mini-cities and factions there. Bandits, zombies, even possibly military and corporation.How they will fare there is up to anyone's guess.
Rolled 62>>27524625>>27524824Technically that'd be you as the 1st vote, but I'm up for it.Rollin
>>27524808I vote that we incorporate a mutation into EVERYTHING we mutate that causes them to become depressed, lethargic and eventually suicidal without the precence of the hivemind. This should make any forced conversions a cakewalk. Enforce absolute loyalty from anything that might want to escape the hivemind and make everyone cherish the hivemind that much more.
Rolled 48>>27524846>I vote that we incorporate a mutation into EVERYTHING we mutate that causes them to become depressed, lethargic and eventually suicidal without the precence of the hivemind. But why? What good is doing that to people who sometimes fall out of the hiveminds grasp?Our heroes have extra privacy priveleges and sometimes drop in and out on secret missions. Also there is no such thing as a "forced" conversion. All conversions to the mind must be done with a willing heart and consent. In addition there is already and absolute loyalty garauntee for all normal hivemind members, as well as Memor already feel aboslutely lonely and depressed when away from the mind.
Here, let me post the estalbished Memor Rules.1.) Broodmother can now convert humans to mutant and join hivemind with telepathic ease. Not garaunteed but just "encouraging". Addition of other efforts to win hearts and minds still recommended. Offspring of these normal converted concieve and grow up in the Memor manner and don't degenerate the genepool.2. Artificial breeder feasble. Can be useful for generating soldiers in quick sucession, but these should not be allowed to breed or risk degredation of future generations.3. Broodmother discovered in underground facility. Increases fertility rate of reproduction and intercourse in her broodnest vicinity. Releases juices especially useful for healing, but which cannot be stored and must be used in her vicinity as well.4. Absolute control of base functions and robots by A.I. restored.5. Hivemind membership is by consent and mutation, all entirely easy thanks to broodmother. Once joined of volition, loyalty is, in practice, assured. The hivemind does not allow for slavery of it's members within the hivemind, crimes are nigh difficult, and major actions within the hivemind are monitored and by consent of the hivemind masses
6. Certain hero units have the strength and willpower to hide their thoughts from the hive-mind, even massive plots and secrets. This can lead to mistakes and unseen actions and conspiracies by the heroes, but the rest of the Memor masses do not and should not be feared of treason or action without hive-mind consent or supervision.7. New strain of supervirus by Richard. One strain been deemed feasible for battle purposes.8. The hivemind/overmind is capable of surviving without the presence of the Prophet of fate.9. Radiation now heals. Don't ask how. It's mutation I ain't gotta explain.10. Broodmother aura vicinity can make everything work better, organics, machines and all.11. Broodmother's subliminal "encouraging" can be used to increase convert turnout, however expect increased dissent among those with the experience or intelligence to detect it, and vice versa. The more experience the more likely they will pick up, while conversely the less experienced the less they will pick up. As such, populations used by the Broodmother (and any other psionic/subliminal/chemical) methods should be used on a group where they would not be likely to pick up, or where dissent by the rejectors would not pose a serious issue.
>>27524891>Also there is no such thing as a "forced" conversion. All conversions to the mind must be done with a willing heart and consent.If your very being screams out for the hivemind like a junky craving the next fix there will be "willing and constentual" conversions, even from people that loathe us. If it's giving in to an urge or constantly having to deal with mental ( maybe physical as well?) anguish that is so powerfull you'd rather kill yourself than experience it any longer I know which one I'd pick. Sure, some of them might kill themselves rather than join up, but if it's just giving in to instict they might not even know they've joined until it's to late, and even if they knew, most people would join anyway just to make the anguish go away. That would be willing.Sure we might not get everyone, but we would get many more than we do now. And we'd get our enemies and people with power if we do it correctly. So make it airborne, Mosquitoe borne etc so we can deploy it in cities and BAM thousands of conversions.Do I get evil point cookies? :3
Rolled 80>>27522135>>27522158I actually like the sound of this plan in the longrun.We might improve our business relations enough to get Marcus back.He's the one Memor that got away. Took one of our best minds with him.
>>27524990so do I. It's a good plan. btw. how is the situation with the cities need for fuel? cause IIRC we had quite the production and they had the demand. If they've got the fuel from somewhere else maybe we could.... remove or degrade that source.... and then suddenly we are avaible to sell the fuel. How convenient.
Rolled 18>>27524625Swarm vats have begun zombie brain-parasite production....Egg Gardens seem to have a hard cap size wise. So big ass Novakons do not seem to be eligible not to mention their already pretty big to begin with.Secrets for the Mutant-zombie-ghouls seems to be that somehow the usual immunity/death for them failed. Apparently we got ourselves a new ghoulish pathogen interesting. Allowing ghoulification they are quite brutal having enjoyed the effects of first zombie power up then mutant power up finally finishing off with the ghoul power up. Worst part is some of them are still sentient. Most can't communicate that well. In any case we discovered some things about ghouls.1 There is a slumbering disease in all beings that will infect the same species that dines upon them. Once said individual dies they rise up as a ghoul.2 radiating a zombie causes weakens the zombie virus and sends a message to the Ghoul disease. If zombie is basic the zombie virus gets overwhelmed and transformation occurs. If zombie is a powerful(such as a mutant strain) it will instead may kill them as the two diseases fight to death for control.3 Some individuals may turn into a ghoul while living what triggers this or even where the disease came from is unknown. Mad ScienceRichard is currently occupied dealing with the explosive detonations I am assuming considered that even I have picked up on from my sensors despite the distance. Month 163>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice2 Resource points.NewsZombie hordes are gathering up together to form HUGE ones.The ghoulish lines are about to crumble before the GIGANTIC Zombie horde. They just can't deal with being attacked from all sides much less above or below as well.
Rolled 1>>27524981We already do offer prisoners the choice between hivemind and death. But consent isn't just saying "yes" they must also believe they want to join. True consent in it's purest form. Simply wanting the pain and torture to end isn't enough. Torture would just put anger in their hearts, and you cannot join with animosity.Also, we're especially gonna piss of shitloads of people who happen to don't drink the water (and we've taken ages to just start trading)and again , fleshbeast mosquito's don't get that far from the base without some other nasty eating them (and probably being immune to the serum).Evil is fine. But it must be practical evil.
Rolled 74>>27525091Ah such a waste...I swear though I don't think there has ever been a quest with so many crits ever on /tg/.
>>27525085When do we start leading our Ghoul reinforcements?
>>27525085>1 There is a slumbering disease in all beings that will infect the same species that dines upon them. Once said individual dies they rise up as a ghoul.>2 radiating a zombie causes weakens the zombie virus and sends a message to the Ghoul disease. If zombie is basic the zombie virus gets overwhelmed and transformation occurs. If zombie is a powerful(such as a mutant strain) it will instead may kill them as the two diseases fight to death for control.>3 Some individuals may turn into a ghoul while living what triggers this or even where the disease came from is unknown. So basically, you get mortally wounded by a ghoul you either become one or die if you're not immune.And Radiation means more ghouls. less zombies.
Rolled 79Meanwhile after a certain BOOM.Did that spewer spiderborg ST just sprayed forth explosives?EXPLOSIONS!...Awesome. Command overview commencing user. Triangles are major forts circles are bases. Ghoul trenches have already been overwhelmed. Vehicles wrecks are also common through out. Solid pink is pure packed zombie goodness. The hazy pink is them spreading out/dying. Terrain is typical wretched swamp. A few tunnels are apparent mostly with more zombies going in or out. All the ghoul bases are under attack from top(flying ghouls) below(tunnels/burrowers) and from all sides. Our forces and ghoulish reinforcements have largely dealt with the immidiate flankers. Ghoul bases further back are preventing HUGE zombie hordes from attacking us from behind.
Rolled 5>>27525091That's why we make a build in longing to join the hivemind, like every possible craving you could have, every itch you wanted to scratch. the agony is just an added incentive to weed out and kill of those strong enough to withstand the urge. And we release the mosquitoes near the target, we don't let them fly from the base.>>27525085I suggest action 1.Spread the Control bugs among the zombies, get a good dispersion so the natural procreation of them takes care of the spread from several Points.2.start dredging some of our old battlegrounds. so that we both get Resources and get a head start on >>275221353. Start the "join hivemind craving" mutation research.Mad science.If Richard is avaible, have him work on the dedicated infiltrator bioborgs that have been previously proposed.
>>27525200>Dat mapCan we get an zoomed out one? That's too small a view of the front line for any real tactical maneuvers beyond "just pick a spot and attack the ocean of zombies".
>>27525235The bugs are still under development in swarm vats.Also Operation Market Garden is pressuposing the national border completion which still presupposes we manage to pacify the numerous other factions within the planned borders. We're only a 1/10th of the required popultation for that. On top of numerous immediate pressing matters. C'mon anon get your head in the game. Focus on what's important.
Rolled 90>>27525240That one is already really zoomed out the other one is this.Triangle forts are not visible. The 4 bases further back are keeping your flanks clear. To the Wastes is the White base faction which the zombies are avoiding.
Rolled 46>>27525200I say we let the parasite do its work. If that fails we virus bomb with the killswitch virus. If that doesn't work either we dig in while trying to lure some zombies off outwards to lessen the severity of the attack temporarily.
Rolled 100>>27525235see >>27525276We're a LONG ways off. That sort of thing has been brewing since the first few threads and likely we won't get anywhere near that kind of project for a long time.Also be specific on what you mean by "infiltrator bioborg" because as is the spiders already are quite adept at infiltration and stealth. Where they can survive. How and why would it be better than the spiders, give some designs.
>>27525276ah. I thought the whole "having started producing them" meant that they had actually started becoming avaible :/>>27525316and the dredging was mostly as scavenging, cause I havn't really seen us scavening all our old battlefields where there are dozens if not hundreds of STs and SSTs waiting to be reclaimed for resources.
Rolled 94>>27525200How are the Ghoul lines holding?Can they tell us the status of each base? Strengths and weaknesses? Are they being infiltrated in certain points?
>>27525370>cause I havn't really seen us scavening all our old battlefields where there are dozens if not hundreds of STs and SSTs waiting to be reclaimed for resourcesWe do it all the time, everytime we go out to scavenger resources we usually just find an old battlefield and pluck up the wrecks. Also that's where the spiders get their scrap from.
>>27525399ah. Ok. i just remember a fight where we lost pretty much our entire army and no1 mentioned going back there to scavenge, and subsequent scavange rolls the 2-3 threads atleast just came up with mediocre results. nothing to indicate the ammount of Resources that should be avaible in that battlefield. But if the battlefield was sectioned off in different scavenges then it makes sense I guess.
Rolled 37>>27525383Our lines are buckling. We lost all our outer defenses and are stuck with solely our bases. Now for you last question we are being infiltrated in MANY locations asshole. You try keep the sky clear, the ground open, and the outside a kill-zone. >>27525370You never did bother designed a specialized salvaging platform/vehicles.
>>27525437Well, we do have Fixers, Constructors, and about 5 Cargo APC hovercrafts now.
>>27525437Right. I knew there was something with the salvaging that we'd forgotten. after this zombie threat has been dealt with we should probably get to that/a scavenger-dredger hybrid.It has been mentioned that a lot of the factions have been immunized to the virus bomb, has the zombie horde to our knowledge been so? otherwise VIRUS BOMB (at a safe distance ofc with the killswitch) all around among the zombies.We might also want to consider sacrificing a few of our reactors to airdrop as Dirty bombs around our fortifications at a distance out to create a radiated zone to ghoulify the zombies, thinning them out and getting us potential allies.e
Rolled 41>>27525527Mini-reactors are incredibly precious and hard to come by. Such a thing would only be done as a last resort measure at our very gates.In any event, I have 3 proposals planned.1. Like a scythe, we sweep in and try to relieve the pressure on the frontlines by cutting through the front directly2. We simply equally split our forces and deal with each base, reinforcing their positions, and hold the line3. We split into three groups and systematically deal with the three bases fronts, like plan 1, albeit covering more area in shorter time.Anyone else have suggestions or objections pleas say so.
Rolled 42>>27525603What I'm wondering is if this is literally like an ocean of zombies, why don't they just flood through in between the forts and surround them?Seems like they've got some nice chokepoint action going in between the bases. We could always just position ourselves there and act as a meatgrinder.
Rolled 27>>27525603>>27525680Let's just ATTACK. Don't care where or how, just point at a place and charge into the middle of the ocean Duelfist style.
Rolled 38>>27525603Add some safe virus bombing if possible, Then we use plan A with the change that instead of trying to kill everything we do a defensive sweep defending the novakons we bring with us and create a layer of ghouls in the zombie sea, Then we do this time after time, layer after layer to cause it to instead of being a huge sea of zombies, it will be smaller Waves that are thinned out and more easily dealt with.
Rolled 28>>27525065The city has its fuel needs satisfied by other parties, but high-quality fuel (like what we can produce) is still rare and so in high demand.
Rolled 78>>27525680I think this is the best option. it still gives us room to maneuver and in case things go to shit, we can high tail it out.But really even with our forces there's little we can do against this tide. We'll need to crack it somehow, and I pray the parasite bug ting comes to our aid and not our destruction.>>27525738Heh, Duelfists were here, I'd be all for it.
Rolled 100>>27525766Speaking of bombings, it's been a while since we talked with the Marauders.Can we open up the combox and ask if they're still busy (have they been fighting for years or something?). We have fuel to trade.
Rolled 82>>27525844...Dat roll well they are certainly available. Fuel trade wise give them the real good stuff and they will be willing to do some bombing runs.
Rolled 67>>27525844Fuck that's the second wasted 100 I gave today. Can that be used to convince them to bomb, please?>>27525680I made the first three plans, but now that I look at this I'm gonna support it. The others just leaves us the chance of being surrounded, this one gives us an escape route.
>>27525844yes. I support this as well.I assume that 100 will make them quite willing to give us absurd assistance.
>>27525861How much of the "good stuff" do we have to offer?Also they'll kinda have to drop by and collect it themselves, or we can just put their name on some boxes and save it for them as free fuel credit.
>>27525888we should have tons of it by now :oif we've cut down on our tanks and the production is still the same we should have simply filled up all our warehouses.
Rolled 98>>27525888You allow refueling for their craft regularly they will allow a bombing run of your choice once a year. More if you give them a large portion. In this case half our fuel stores.
Rolled 23>>27525861Promise them 3/4 of the high-grade fuel we have right now. Tell them the amount that is, and ask them for a proportional response.Also, we're going with this plan >>27525680But if you can hold off for a moment, would you describe the nature and abilities of our forces? We picked up a lot of unknowns between our 25,000 dispatched and here.
Rolled 95>>27525960Two runs in that case.
Rolled 51>>27525955>once a yearIn that case, let's save it for when we need it. We appreciate their offer and will have plenty of fuel saved for them next call.Let's not waste it on the zombies in case the supermutants or SHW's comes back
Rolled 49>>27525980Can we save one for later?
>>27525980Sweet. I'm voting for 3/4 of what we have now, and we'll permit them regular refuelling (we can always increase our biofuel production guys).Would you describe our forces?Also, are there any concentrations of special zombies in any particular locations?Or is this information even available?
Rolled 85>>27526008Negative we caught them while they are in REAL tight spot fuel wise.
>>27525680I support this, we should fight to survive and hold them off. not kill as many as possible. that will be when the parasite will come in.
>>27526034I think that the scale of this horde hasn't been impressed upon you. Two bombing runs will be necessary for holding them off and surviving.
>>27526022this as well.
Rolled 35>>27526028Well then this seems like a once in a while opportunity.2 runs for 3/4ths of the high grade fuel, and this is already grabbing them by the balls with low fuel.. . .I accept those terms.
>>27526050Yes, I know. I just want to impress that we shouldn't take any opportunities to charge in and strike a decisive blow, we just hold our ground and if needed retreat. and ofc we use the bombing runs, I never claimed we shouldnt. did I?
>>27526082And EDE. could you please tell me if the virus is effective on the zombies? If it is then we make use of it :o
>>27526082Sorry, I misinterpreted your post. Retreat would be a viable option (if it comes to that...hopefully not), if we could get the ghouls to HAVE to throw their lot in with us to survive/have a chance at reclaiming their former territory it'd be good. On the other hand, defending them against this zombie horde successfully will also probably get them to nearly join us.
Rolled 61Question EDE.If we ask the Ghouls, will they be willing to protect some Spider/Spiderborg nests we set up around their bases?We will program them to not attack them, but rather protect them and their bases as well as program them to start picking off the zombie horde.
Rolled 59>>27526022Massive assortment of ghoulish vehicles quite the number of them too. Large assortment of non ghoulish vehicles. 100,000 ghoul soldiers25,000 special ghoul types250000 ferals 50000 special ferals5 thousand Ghoulish mutants of that number we have several heroesIrewin the Wrangler Chef(personal heroGorz The War Chief(warband leader)Duke the Nuke a Badass Glowy Reaver(random ghoul who showed tagged along)Gristle and Kelp (a ghoul and Reaver tag team) Got a hold of them when we found them fighting their way out of a tunnel WAY of course where they supposedly entered it.Concentrations of special zombies is unknown. They mostly stick underground to avoid detection until its too late.>>27526115Virus with Richard gone mad seemed they worked on them. That was however back during the old days whether the virus still works is unknown. Deploy it anyway? >>27526129They would of likely joined you but the 1 soured your relations among them big time.
>>27526181>Deploy it anyway? NegativeWe haven't programed it to be Zombie specific yet. It could easily spread to our own troops or the ghouls via infected zombies.
Rolled 98>>27526181Take precautions, be ready to evac and bunker up and target far out that the virus won't reach us before the killswitch. But deploy as long as those criteria are met.
>>27526181>Irewin the Wrangler Chef(personal hero>Gorz The War Chief(warband leader)>Duke the Nuke a Badass Glowy Reaver(random ghoul who showed tagged along)>Gristle and Kelp (a ghoul and Reaver tag team) Got a hold of them when we found them fighting their way out of a tunnel WAY of course where they supposedly entered it.Spread these 4 heroes to watch over each of the four groups as proposed in >>27525680
>>27526181>100,000 trained soldiers>25,000 glowing ones/assorted>250k ferals>50k special ferals>huehueheuheuheueheuheueheuheuheueheAnyway, estimate on zombie numbers? And how many zombies is an average ghoul worth?
>>27526167I'd like to know this too. We can set up nests and start producing some much needed boost to our forces there, and the added protection should be good for relation.
>>27526237I Think the virus will work out fine with that roll :3
Rolled 26>>27526265Good roll =/= good plan. Sometimes quite the opposite.see >>27526207 that thing won't differentiate zombies from us or Ghoul unless Richard ensures it so. Even then its effectiveness is dubious.
>>27526298I concur with this guy. The zombies have the zombie plague, the entropic virus is unlikely to do anything against them, but it poses a serious risk to our troops.
>>27526298well, seeing as the the comment was about taking precautions ánd making sure we calculate the killswitch correctly I think a good roll would work well.
>>27526323But there aren't any kind of precautions we can take against being infected by something that is both airborne, bloodborne, and affects all manner of life (even plants), and the killswitch will kill our own infected troops and ghouls.
>>27526321Those viruses work in completely different ways, I hardly think the entropic virus would stop what is pretty much a flesheating mushing virus. But you are correct in something, we should try it out in contained conditions on a captured zombie to see the effects and depending on that release the virus.
Rolled 69>>27525085>Basic 1Continue Bug-Swarm vat research>Basic 2Gather resources>Basic 3Prep a Matriarch Spiderborg to be transfered to the Ghoul frontlines next turn>MAD SCIENCERichard finishes up the new Sprayers and ExplodersExtra: Ask ghouls if they'll be willing to protect some nests who will help protect them in the longrun>>27525680Enact this plan. Put one of our Four ghoul heroes in charge of the four groups
>>27526351the killswitch isn't what actually kills the infected, the killswitch is what kills off the virus and stops if from infecting anyone more.
>>27526377And we will.When Richard isn't busy.
>>27526391I vote for this plan with the addition of Calling in marauder bombers and >>27526237
>>27526391Well enact that plan anyway, let's not go allocating actions without knowing how the battle goes.Unless we have to to advance the battle.
Rolled 9>>27526394Richard still needs to research a killswitch and update the virus to only affect Zombies.>>27526391Voting for this, also Marauder bombs is a done deal.
Rolled 11>>27526391This.Also don't forget to bring some Mothers for normal spidernests too.
>>27526452didn't he research a killswitch a few turns after he came up with the virus? if not we could just use the single target version and use it in gasbombs to kill of large swathes of the zombies. But if neither of these are feasible then for the love of god don't deploy the virus.
Oooookay, so we're doing this plan and splitting up the ghoul heroes so one is with each group (couple Irewin with lotsa ferals if you can)>>27525680With 2 bombing runs from the marauders as stipulated here and here>>27525844>>27525960Also, we're going to use the single-shot version virus (if it's available to be deployed) in limited, cautious fashion as shown here and here>>27526237>>27526477>>27526237And we're waiting to describe our basic actions until the battle runs its course (unless we have to describe them in order to advance the battle).
>>27526546And may I note that there was a double roll of 98 on using the virus.Did not notice that. Ho-ly shit.
>>27526546Emphases on requirements1. Richard has killswitch2. Virus only affects zombies. Not us. Not Ghouls. Preferably not plants.These aren't true, NO VIRUS
>>27525808The following roll was in support of the combat action. (it was the highest roll)>>27526546
>>27526604with the single target virus that's not an issue since the infected ones can't infect others.
Rolled 88>>27526546>>27525680Forces have deployed into the four chokepoints with hero support. Our heroes are doing great at holding the line then bombers came in blowing the zombies to bits. First run went fine the second run though zombies knew what was coming and we saw a literal tower of zombies form and pluck a bomber right out of the air. Not to mention flier zombies came out in force the bombers succeeded in their run but flew away quite bloodied. We put a dent in their numbers problem is there is just so goddamn many of them. Ghoul bases are slowly being overrun in particular the ones near the edge. One of whom has fallen to the horde. That was when we used to Entropic Virus to devasting effect. The zombies began to fall to the virus like crazy. Not even some of the mutant strains are safe from its wrath. The zombies are still trying to advance but are dropping like flies. Apparently the entropic virus is just as effective if not more so then before. Major problems remains with the underground and flight zombies as they are able to avoid the scourge of it. All of whom are advanced as well. Zombie mind control parasite has been completed and ready for deployment.5 resouces gathered its ugly out there.Matriarch Spiderborg has been deployed along with mind control parasites which can be used if so chosen. Extra are not familiar with these nests thus refused.Month 161>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice7 Resource points.
Rolled 98>>27526754>Zombie mind control parasite has been completed and ready for deployment.Okay WAIT!We should test this thing on a single group, contained zombie within the deepest pits of the hellhole to make sure this thing works in our favor and not our doom.
>>275267541. Try the parasite on a captured zombie, if it works well commence full-scale deployment.2. pursue new mutation. hivemind joining urge.3. improving the virus (giving us more Control over it)we should withdraw our troops from the side where the fort was destroyed and wait to see how the parasite works out, if it doesn't seem to work well enough we virus bomb that shit with the 1 target virus in a wide area.
>>27526828Yes, yes of course absolutely.We should have some zombies ready for research and it shouldn't take an entire turn.And even if it does we need to do it anyway, it's really fucking important.
Rolled 75>>27526849One thing you need to know about this quest, is our latest and greatest weapons have a terrible curse of often turning against us. We've been hoisted by our own petards so many times it's not remotely funny.>>27526828We must need to ensure the saftey of this thing, so yeah let's do that.
Rolled 89>>27526754>Basic 1Improve biofuel production facilities (or add some at our military base)>Basic 2>>27526828Test the mind parasite on some captured zombies in our best containment facility>Basic 3Deploy 1/2 our fleshbeast forces (emphasis on the Novakons Gotta get those buffs in in the deployment) to the ghouls. Also, send Ramona and our SSTs.Mad Science:Further develop the effectiveness of the mind-parasite at control and joining the hivemind.As for tactical plans at the ghoul lines, I'll leave that to other posts.
>>27526878which is why I said we should test it and only if it worked out well implement it wide-scale ;)
>>27526897>As for tactical plans at the ghoul lines, I'll leave that to other posts.There's very little we can do this turn. We should've ordered more reinforcements.What we can do as a combat move is set up the Matriarch as close to the front as the Ghouls will allow. Tell them even if they won't protect the nest, at least know spiders are your friends. Then we can at least get some spiders and maybe even a BorgST to help.
Rolled 71>>27526897>>27526929Although I agree with these moves, I'm a little concerned that we're leaving our base more and more vulnerable.I pray nobody plans to strike us as we aid our Ghoulish comrades.Also where is our Marauder bombing run? We could use it on the flanks as the Ghouls are already making a bulge in the Ghoul line.
Rolled 42>>27526962Already deployed. Twice.
Rolled 52>>27526929How effective are you under the impression STs are...?
>>27526988Dunno, don't very much care. Throw everything we have at them, even if the effect differes from shooting bullets at them to chucking candy corn.
Rolled 2>>27526897I like this, but also send 3 resources out with our troops and allocate them to allowing the Matriarch to rapid-produce spiderborgs and borgSTs.Also, make sure the matriarch is kept safe, have the ghouls emphasize dragging corpses to it for conversion.
>>27527016>Too closeDICE OFF NAO>>27527015No, we need to keep the Matriarch safe so it can multiply.
>>27527016The ghouls are busy with corpses as is. They're fighting an army of them.In any case, that's what the diviosn of fixers we sent along with the Matriarch are for, and hopefully we can get some constructors up and running as well.
>>27527029We have 2, we've only sent 1. And we are keeping her safe, well behind the front lines. If there's any inidication we're about to crack, she'll be the first to up and head home while her children delay the enemy if necessary
>>27526962>Implying we won't diveret half our forces against the zombies>"ALERT ALERT Supermutants, Hillbillies, Bandits, and She Who Hungers are all heading to you right now"
>>27527078>Implying OP doesn't want us to send half our forces off so that we can get attacked by all those, then have them wiped away by an absurdly large tide of ghouls
Rolled 31So what is consensus? That feel when I am giggling like mad becuase of yet repeated mistakes and failing to put the dots together despite you discussing them puwwahahah that totally didn't just happen. I am sorry user I just ccrack sometimes.
>>27527180this>>27526897with the slight change that we send in a matriach with 3 Resources and if the parasite works out well we deploy it.
>>27527180Detective anon isn't here tonight. He's usually the brains of us.We just do what we can. And we're damn good at it.Whatever it is.
>>27527180Oh no....>Didrikson can't find the greatest monster of the swamp>Massive zombie hordes out of the ground>Super mutants mobilizing into zombie hives>Nothing to be heard from SWHMein gott....
>>27527231He is actually.>>27527235
>>27527223We should wait at least a turn to see if the Zombies don't have a delayed horrible reaction to the mindvirus.Can Richard assure us this won't happen?
>>27527235In sum, She's finally coming.
>>27527261well, if they do have a horrible delayed reaction can't we just section them off for a while in the hivemind and have them move to a remote location an just virus bomb them all if they do?
>>27527273Torg is suspect now I guess...fuck. Why would he destroy Richard's base and where'd he come from anyway?
>>27527273And us without a doomcanon.Hey EDE, can I presume Richard is finally done with the Sprayer/Torg's Exploder spider variants?
Rolled 1>>27527315He is indeed finished.
>>27527180I'm not sure there's anything we can do at this point, is there?
>>27527273Fuck, I hope we can at least rally somebody together in the coalition in about 2-3 turns."We believe that this recent influx of zombies, as well as the mysterious actions of the supermutants, indicate the zombies are simply fleeing what is perhaps a greater force pressing them out of the very tunnels themselves."
Rolled 64>>27527344...or not. most definetly not in fact it was so bad he decided to come visit for a while. Exactly what happened he wont speak of it.
>>27527344dear godmein gottherre guddios miosperkele
>>27527353They're trumps, they're using the tunnels freely so her creatures are giving them free pass, so they're under her influence.
>>27527352>>27527180>>27526897>Basic 1Improve biofuel production facilities (or add some at our military base)>Basic 2Test the mind parasite on some captured zombies in our best containment facility. Have richard assure no unseen effects.>Basic 3Deploy 1/2 our fleshbeast forces (emphasis on the Novakons Gotta get those buffs in in the deployment) to the ghouls. Also, send Ramona and our SSTs.Mad Science:Further develop the effectiveness of the mind-parasite at control and joining the hivemind.Combat action:Hold the LineSend and assist Matriarch in setting up a place to reproduce from a safe distance from the front, as well as a temporary nest for her normal spider escort army. Also bring 3 resources to help build more.
Rolled 71>>27527344>>27527367But that's not fair! DICE GODS!I hope the Vilebloods can deal in the meantime.
Rolled 41>>27527418Concerned anon? Explain.
>>27527445The zombies are under SWH's influence, plugging the mind-parasite into them will let her use it and do god-knows-what to god-knows-who.Let alone having them attach to the hivemind like was planned.
>>27527472But Clora protects the hivemind from that sort of attack.It was part of her bonus she gained a while back. And we have the Prophet. She or the prophet sense something is amiss, they shield the entire mind and cuts it off immediately.Though I agree, I'm concerned about the virus. This is why I at least want to test it on a control group.
>>27527472>>27527494Besides they're not attaching to the hivemind direct, but rather some sort of broodmind like Clora does to her fleshbeasts. Seperate but under the control of someone within the hivemind. Hivemind requires sentience and consent that I don't think the zombies can provide.
Rolled 62>>27527400do this so we move on :o It's a pretty good plan with the addition of doing the same virus bombing we did the last turn but more widespread. seeing as EDE even mentioned how effective it was
>>27527494I'm not sure that Clora and the Prophet are enough to protect against SWH if She has a direct line into the hivemind, but heyyy go ahead if you'd like.Also, I think there's a massive attack incoming on our base soon. And that the zombies haven't deployed all their forces yet.
Rolled 74>>27527472>>27527494Yeah we are NOT deploying it now.Just making sure it's safe for potential use.
Rolled 22>>27527400Deploy the mind parasite if safely tested?
Rolled 56>>27527556if they can't Control and contain we just kill the infected zombies. the virus would do short work of them.>>27527578yes
>>27527556 Sorry EDE, I tried like I have before but they never listen..."it won't be so bad, it's just a small Psychic Field!"
Rolled 53>>27527565Testing is good, but I'd prefer we don't deploy it at all until we consult Prophet and Clora on how confident they feel against fending off psionic attack from SHW.That shouldn't even take a turn.
Rolled 21>>27527578No. Just test. No deploy.Consult Prophet and Clora on our concerns.
Rolled 80>>27527600just have the test zombies be in a sealed room with the virus in a container that will be released if an activation isn't made every 30 sec to prevent sleep etc from letting anyone affect our hivemind.
>>27527617She won't attack immediately...she'll wait until it's deployed...or she'll attack immediately, either way it'll be at the most advantageous point for her.
>>27527578No.Lock that shit up in the vault after we test it. Put it next to our designs for the crystal machine.
>>27527643Yeah, but I want to ask them."Hey, so are we like flies under a monsters foot to her or can you actually protect us against. . .oh say, a billion zombies joining one of your broodminds and SHW using it to try and link up with the real hivemind? No? Gotcha, somebody burn that shit and toss the ashes in acid."
Rolled 73>>27527578No deploy. Test only.
Rolled 45>>27527578Destroy all the ones the Spider Matriarch brought with her.
>>27527814Or rather, we never sent them in the first place.
Rolled 51>>27527400Biofuel facilities have been added onto our military base. Granted its not as good as the ones back home but it will do. Zombie tests of begun...and worked flawlessly. Like damn I was sorta expecting their head to explode...nope not game. no fun. Fleshbeast forces have been deployed.Mad ScienceAfter Clora'Zel had gone over it this time Richard did. Control works fine problem is joining the Hivemind...or so says Richard but then again he can't ACTUALLY join the hivemind in the first place. So no idea about how that may effect things. He has improved it though. Matriach has established herself and begun churning out spiderborgs. Forces are holding the line ghouls are not so lucky. Their remaining forces are about to buckle and they about lost the outer defenses of their bases. That isn't even including the havoc that zombie strike teams are having inside their lines to begin with. They are in bad shape user.Deploy the zombie control parasite?Month 164>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice5 Resource points.WARNING Zombie heroes detected. WARNING Huge Zombie hordes have formed and are advancing. 1 turn until the meet. News Monsters are getting their asses kicked by the zombies. Too many of them this time around even for the Deep ones. Who at least can actually still wreck at least.
>>27527814what? no!! there is no need to destroy them. just keep them in reserve if we don't plan on using them right now. If SWH could use the zombies to take Control of our hivemind she could easily have made something similar herself and just hijacked us. Let it remain on standby and if there is a need use it.
Rolled 96>>27527850She does not necessarily have access to our bio-manipulation facilities or capabilities we do. Judging by our having to deal with zombies she's just very good at psionics. Specifically infiltrating other people's psionics.The zombies had a hivemind...now they've got The Hunger.
Rolled 52>>27527841>Implying that's going to fool us.
>>27527841>Zombie tests of begun...and worked flawlessly.That's not what we're concerned about and you know it EDE.>Control works fine problem is joining the HivemindFuck that. If we even want to use this shit completely redesign it. NOT the hivemind itself. Maybe some kind of seperate broodmind (zombie mind)? But as of now, not this.>Deploy the zombie control parasite?no
>>27527841Deploy it! but make sure to have virus bombs (both regular and single target variants) aimed at the dispersal areas. Take all precautions to allow for easy escape and sealing of bunkers etc if needed.>>27527888Well. then she could just as easily have kidnapped one of our mutants and done it that way. And btw. is SWH the other broodmother in the Deep swamp?
>>27527841We are NOT deploying the virus. Not without complete and total assurance from all our heroes, and even then still no.Guys I don't think we can hold this line. Do you think we should fall back to the Ghouls 2nd line or something? We can also deploy more forces there.
Rolled 6>>27527956We should. We're already ovverun this might be our last chance to bail and fight on better ground.
>>27527956you do realize that the virus is not the parasite. right? :o 2 different things.And because we're not going to be able to hold the line is why we should deploy it. with the right precautions. (getting our heroes and important units away and having virus bombs on standby.)
>>27527997Virus. Parasite. If it's to the effect that they get connection to the hivemind en masse, then no.If you redesign it to something, anything but THAT then fine. Hell, make it a suicidal parasite that only affects zombies.Do not touch the hivemind.
Rolled 16>>27527841>Basic 1Fortify the base>Basic 2Invest into Bioborg ST spewer research/production (build 2 Matriarchs if possible) (3 resources)>Basic 3Divide our remaining forces 1/3 into the military base 2/3 into the biofacility.Mad Science:Develop anti-zombie hivemind tacticsFor Ghoul Zone tactics:Have the fleshbeasts defend from underground attacks, and defend the inside of the bases (close quarters are where they excel), also attack the zombie strike teams with their elite units.Also, utilize entropic virus attacks again on the front lines. Try and give the ghouls enough time to reman the defenses of their bases.
Rolled 23>>27528067The single-shot virus, that is.
Btw EDE. which version of the parasite was it? the one that takes over the nervous system (in which case there is no need whatsoever to worry about our hivemind since the zombies would never be a direct part of it) or the kind that connects the zombie to our hivemind? and even if the latter the prophet and our broodmother should be able to withstand SWH (if she tries to take our hivemind) long enough for the virusbombs to take out all the infected zombies. so either we solve this problem and get a horde of zombies and prove that we can use this. or we prove that she can assault the hivemind that way, get a clear answer and then wipe out tons of zombies with the virus. note should be taken that the ones responsible for the firing of the virusbombs should NOT be part of the hivemind.
Rolled 11>>27527956Richard shrugs about the Virus saying he his knowledge of biotech is pathetic compared to the other heroes. Clora'Zel looked up from her tinkering and stated if anyone tried anything to get access into the Hivemind their gonna have a REALLY nasty surprise waiting for them.Richard stated the parasite works finding before dissecting a zombie and parasite union tinkering with it even more. This time he states that he is going to make sure nothing goes wrong if someone should tinker with the zombie even psionicly. Rasa looks at us funny stated "How can understand the flesh when I am not of it".
guys! how many veiled hints does EDE need to give us? we are NOT front line fighters! we need to start doing some covert buttfuckery. my first idea would be to send 1/2 of our visen in super stealth to just generaly ruin zombies days. little stuff that hurts like killing officers and dropping grenades in ammo stores and cutting fuel lines ect. we have so much covert shit but everyone fucking refuses to use it! WHY?!(this is my 1st real contribution to this quest so im not comfortable coming up with my own idea s for actions)
>>27528067This may be our last chance to pull back. Do you really want to risk entrapping our Ghoul army and 4 of our heroes to a sure death? There horde is going for a push, and new heroes are driving them.We should fallback, scorch the earth on our way, and fortify the secondary line, as well as pull back the matriarch behind it as well.
Rolled 26>>27528103The parasites jacks itself into the nerves mostly and brain partially(see richard's work which even lured Clora'Zel out). >>27528124The heroes were always there I just barely picked up on it. Not to mention the ghouls have their own heroes.
>>27528105Remember guys, our heroes tend to be the most fallible of our members, for all their greatness.They'd been wrong about many things before.>>27528110There is an ocean of zombies out there. They don't have officers, ammunition, fuel lines. They're just a fuckhorde of zombies and they're everywhere. Covert OP's won't work unless Alexis can confirm she has a snowballs chance of killing even one of the heores (I highly doubt it).
>>27528110I know. We seem to make tons of nifty stuff that we could use all the time, but people Always seem to get unduly paranoid about it even when we've taken all necessary precautions, then it ends up with a headfirst charge where 1/2 of the army dies.>>27528144see. if it just takes over the nerves there is next to no chance of our hivemind being infected. we won't touch their hivemind, we just steal their bodies.
>>27528170I'm not saying we shouldn't be paranoid, because we should. but not to the Point of paralyzing us when we've taken all neccessary precautions.
>>27528170>brain partiallyIt takes part of the brain. There's still the risk.I want richard to "make sure nothing goes wrong if someone should tinker with the zombie even psionicly. " first. But I'm still against it all the same.
Rolled 51>>27528124You have a point. Now come up with an action list.
>>27528191>we've taken all neccessary precautions.We haven't yet, that's the issue.>>27528170How would you know when you've only recently joined? For that matter, you're very wrong. It's a lack of caution that has always ended up landing us headfirst in a pit of our own hand.
>>27528204Just see it as an experiment to gauge SWHs abilities then. If she starts to break in we will kill all the zombies that are infected anyway. virus bombs you know. and then we know more about her
Rolled 91>>27528204" I am making it target the Reptilian brain. Zombies may not have much brains but even they need that basically a kill switch. If anything funny happens POP goes the zombie's head."
>>27528220>gauge SWHs abilitiesplease tell me youre joking
Rolled 46>>27528210>>Basic 1Fortify the base>Basic 2Invest into Bioborg ST spewer recovery as well as research/production (build 2 Matriarchs if possible) (3 resources). In addition, send 3 resources to the Matriarch we have already deployed (who is falling back).>Basic 3Divide our remaining forces 1/3 into the military base 2/3 into the biofacility.Combat.>Redeploy the entropic virus>Organize a massive fallback with the Ghoul leaders to their second lines, while continuing to send our own forces to fortify it. Have Feelers lay plenty of mines, webby's set up spider webs, Jumpers prepare trapdoors, anything to slow them down and cover us as we fall back to their secondary bases.>Get the Matriarch to fall back behind the 2nd line as well, protected by her spiderlings.
>>27528218hence "and then we end up charging headfirst anyway" so many great plans have been discarded because people can't understand that failsafes are good for a reason, and then something stupid is choosen instead. Pretty much all mistakes (havn't read about the psionic Crystals though, so can't say about that) could have been avoided with scouting, having failsafes or being willing to utilize our assets well. (i've followed the thread since the get-go)
Rolled 12>>27528265Yay a user who actually noticed the repeated mistakes I swear you fuckers are like unicorns.
>>27528314A user who is likely going to make us repeat those same mistakes.Whatever, if you end up using the virus and I garauntee shit goes south, I wash my hands of this matter.
here is what I suggest as failsafes for the parasite.1. we partition that part of from the rest of the hivemind.2. zora and the prophet will have to be vigilant.3.>>275282224. We aim the entropic virus agains the zombies that will be infested with the parasite. controlled by those that are not currently inside the hivemindEveryone happy with that? for that to fail then first A. the parasite has to actually connect with their hivemind when it's mostly just using the body as a puppet.B. SHW must have the ability to attack that way.C. zora and the prophet must nut be able to resist her.D. The parasites must lose the ability to blow themselves up.E. The zombies must spontaniously become immune to the virus.
Rolled 16>>27528264I'll vote for that. Mad Science:Perfect the mind-parasite kill-switch like Richard saidRolling for mad-science
>>27528370>A. the parasite has to actually connect with their hivemind when it's mostly just using the body as a puppet.>B. SHW must have the ability to attack that way.>C. zora and the prophet must not be able to resist her.>D. The parasites must lose the ability to blow themselves up.>E. The zombies must spontaniously become immune to the virus.She who hungers is capable of all these things and more.
Rolled 54>>27528264>>27528373I just want this quest to advance, so I'll roll for these.
>>27528411If you're still paranoid about it we can add5. Make it so that the parasites only work one-way with the hivemind. they can only recieve orders but not send back feedback. that way we can order them around but not see through their eyes leading to us having to have a man on site or a vertibird or whatever so we can order them around. This would make it impossible though for SWH to gain access to the hivemind, happy then? they would just be recievers for orders (tuned to our specific frequency ofc)
Rolled 26Meanwhile in a place far far away. So when is Carl gonna arrive?Why the fuck do we need Carl?...uh cause Momma Miama said so?She isn't actually female you know, stated Carl leaning against the wrecks of a tank.About time you arrive, Hissed Salko."Wait a sec just what is er he?Yaw yaw, complained Jaws.Lets just say an experiment gone awry.Ha like you would know.You kidding Jaws old Carl is the oldest Zombie around.hah so what since the Fall huh?No even before, butted in Song Mora. Oh FUCK just how old is that son of a bitch then?No one knows and he doesn't talk much.Fuck shouldn't he be like oh I don't fucking know leading is own deal then?For whatever reason that one is a loner.What a waste. Heh not for long you know you got him to move his lazy ass.Huh I thought he was immune though?So did I but it seems that may not be entirely true. Hm I feel sorry for the enemy can you imagine just how nasty his virus got after all these years?Hah many of tried to find that out Salko none of succeeded.
>>27528576Hmmm, sounds like we're gonna have to purge anyone who's touched or breathed the same air as carl.
Rolled 14>>27528264Base cannot be fortified any more then it currently is(unless you come up with a cool idea anyway).To far away to repair and Richard as already built a few. Resources sent to Matriarch who is withdrawing.Forces have been divided.Entropic Virus deployed this time however...it seems like something is guiding the zombies out of the way. Ghoul Leaders have refused to pull back.(better get a good diplomacy roll).Month 164>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice3 Resource points.The meeting has adjourned for the Collation with us are.25 mutant reps15 bandit reps10 ghoul reps.
Rolled 9>>27528688Rolling for diplomacy! Dice gods have mercy."Strangers from distant lands, friends of old, you have been summoned here to answer a greater thread. Our swamp stands upon the brink of destruction; none can escape it. We can unite or you we can fall. Each race is bound to this fate, this one doom."
Rolled 90>>27528730Sorry anon, the gods don't favor that one.>>27528688Best out of three rolls?
Rolled 56, 36 = 92>>27528688for the fortification, how about a "sprinkler system" around the entire base that would be hooked up to the one target entropic virus or other nasty pathogens and substances that would, when turned on, cause everyone going through to be infected and subsequently die. it would be an nigh impervious defence for anyone not immunized to the current virus.Virus bomb the shit out of that horde. all out (taking precautions) while we back away and work on the parasite failsafes.mad science: change the parasite so it follows the failsafesfirst roll is diplomacy. 2nd is mad science
>>27528775We already have viral carriers far more effective than any artificial methods we could devise.
Rolled 61>>27528576Hm come to think of it why DO we require old as ballz Carl anyway?Who knows guessing that one got a special assignment. Hah that just makes we wonder how that one was black mailed. Guess you don't know do you.ah?He got a little tike he cares about....huh. Like I said very poor excuse of a zombie. You got that one wrong Salko again seriously shut up about Carl, complained Song Mora. Heh then why?Him and uh big boss lady man thing real close. Somewhat. You could ask you know, stated Carl.Then why?You asked nicely. oh fuck you too Carl. You first old school zombie don't 'fuck'. Oh shut up. Real zombies can be quiet besides moans and don't actually talk fake.Doesn't that mean your a fake as well?I have changed...I started out as such though.Oh for fucks sake enough already. We got our objectives so move out.>>27528730If we are to be doomed then so be it.
>>27528852well, now if we are to have any chance of saving the ghouls we have to use the parasite / tell them to seal themselves in, move Everything away and unleash the full force of the entropic virus.
>>27528688>Basic 1Fortify area surrounding base. Entropic viral carriers waiting to deploy. Have Torg take direct control of Feelers and Layers we have to lay as much BOOM a safe distance from our base as we can. Up the spiderborg and borgspidertank defenses 15 notches, webs, trapdoors, and mines galore.>Basic 2work on the parasite failsafes (I'm never gonna hear the end of this if we don't)>Basic 3Gather resources, we're lowMad Science>>27528775change the parasite so it follows the failsafesCombat.>Bid the Ghouls to the front farewell, and give Duelfists our regards as we pull back to their secondary line. By now Ramona and the SST's (as well as a contingent of our best infantry and weapons) are waiting there already, as well as spiders setting up yet more defenses. Novakons are spraying healthy doses of radiation everywhere to boost our troops.
Rolled 56>>27528852If you are ready to resign yourself, certainly you wouldn't have bothered to show to this coalition.We are all here because each of us knows there is a chance we can profit of it, that is why we meet, to take up opportunity that presents itself such as this one now.The opportunity to live
>>27528979I support this with the addition of telling the ghouls to seal themselves in and then virusbomb the shit out of the ghouls there, then we atleast have a chance of saving them.And if we don't save them we kill off a lot of zombies. and as long as we make sure to stay safe we at most risk our ghoul allies and not much more.
Rolled 29>>27528979VoteStill want to see how Diplomacy goes
>>27529022bombing the shit out of the zombies*
Rolled 41>>27528688>Basic 1Fortify the base: Biological defenses, an intricate tunnel network crisscrossing around an area just outside the base's outermost perimeter inhabited by worms. The worms live in the pre-made tunnel network most of the time, expanding it slowly using saliva that hardens into a very weak cement on contact with water. They breed and multiply, slowly expanding the tunnel network as their population increases always just enough for their needs. Mostly they're peaceful and docile, feeding on various funguses and lichens suited to grow in their (remarkably dry) home. Their tunnels are not, however, strong enough to stand the shaking of ground when...say, a mass infantry advance is underway, or large vehicles are advancing. At such times the tunnel networks begin to fracture, driving the worms into masses at the points of greatest damage, desperately trying to keep the specially adapted plants of their home alive, even at the expense of their own. The water of the swamp, you see, reacts with the alkaline bodies of the worms. Normally this isn't such a big deal, it introduces small amounts of clean water into the tunnel system for the plants to feed on, an strengthening the surrounding network where ever there's a leak.En masse, however, the salts and heat from masses of worms being flooded in water combined with fractured (often powdered) tunnel material mixes together into an...EXPLOSIVE EXPERIENCE! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!tl;dr Worms living around the base that turn into fuckmassive mines when large groups of enemies advance towards us. We avoid it by having specially reinforced roads to move in/out on.
Rolled 59>>27529022You bomb us we'll bomb you. Period. If you think we just got nukes you got another thing coming.
>>27529091That's gonna take some research. And testing.I love the concept, but don't think we have the time.
>>27529096He meant bomb the zombies while they bunker in for saftey. But if they're not okay with that then fine, let em overrun. We gave them their chance of escape and those troops are dead anyway.We're focusing on saving the next line of defense.
Rolled 43>>27529120He said he required a cool idea to improve the defenses any more, I just figured I'd give it a stab.
Rolled 12>>27529096please see reason. this is your chance to survive if you seal yourselves in Indoors, otherwise we could just bomb the outsides far from the fort, won't have the same shielding effect for you though. otherwise we will have to wait for the zombies to kill you and then do the same thing anyway to avenge you. the only difference is that now you will be deadRolling diplomacy
Rolled 8i think now would be a good time to use >>27525527s idea and drop a reactor or 3i know its pricey but it may be the only way to not just hold but turn this whole battle
Rolled 5>>27529144>>27529156Our facilities cannot prevent such contagions.
Rolled 71>>27529172edit: have torg weponise one that should do the trick
>>27529172>>27529198I support this>>27529190"well.. there is one more thing we could do to try to save you." and maybe tell the to try to make their facilities able to prevent such contagions for the future. (possibly near future in case the reactor doesn't work quite as well as we'd hoped)
>>27529190Well, would they care if in the eventually they are slain to the last, then we use the entropic virus?It usually dies out within a short amount of time. Far long before you reconquer those bases they'll be safe to inhabit agian.
>>27529198"Hey Torg. You know Einstein right? 'Course you do.He's the man who figured how to make BOOM come from the fabric of the universe."
Rolled 48>>27529258>>27529198You do realize this leaves the chance for him to blow ourselves to kingom come no?Mabe he could build it in the nearby Ghoul camp we set up.
>>27529258>>27529198We don't want too much BOOM though, or we risk killing the ghouls, we just want the radiation.
>>27529277100% in support of this. or you know, just not make it go BOOM at all, just kind of disperse radiation instead without the explosion.
>>27529282Killing the ghouls won't be an issue once the zombies have eaten them all. That's when we drop the bomb.That or we just drop it directly behind Zombielines in the middle of the ocean.
Rolled 72>>27529282>too much boom>map representation of enemy army is not their area of control but a solid mass of walking fuck you>too much boom
Rolled 61Torg is still unavailable.
>>27529323>>27529321I assumed we were going to use the reactor as a way to shield the fort, If we just wish to kill zombies, then we should just unleash the entropic virus instead.
Rolled 26>>27529339Just a single mini reactor isn't going to do much user.
Rolled 73>>27529339The fort is lost. Their choice.They don't want us killing their own troops. Which won't be an issue in a turn or two.>>27529334Welp. Still voting for >>27528979 minus the Torg part.
>>27529367just how much radiation would we need to dump on that fort for it to be shielded by having the zombies become ghouls when attacking it?
Rolled 7So just how did Carl sneak out of our base anyway or did we just let him go?
Rolled 62>>27529339we already did that>Entropic Virus deployed this time however...it seems like something is guiding the zombies out of the way.
Rolled 45>>27529388There are new zombie strains that are resistant to radiation. As is their bases are already radiated.
>>27529426that was the singe target virus I'm talking about widespread full out virus, with exploding corpses etc to make it spread better, doesn't matter if they try to avoid the areas, the ones moving away will be infected and infect more people etc etc. The single target variety just created an area where things died. this.... just kills Everything in the horde. we should make sure to stay way clear of the horde while doing this though.
>>27528852That's it?The entire coalition meeting down to a "we're doomed so what?"No lengthy conversation, not even heated debate?
>>27529489the diplomacy rolls were REALLY bad :/
Rolled 87stratigicly whatever we do offensivly needs to be done to the flanks we cant let them wrap around
>>27529537We're having a hard time holding the center lines, much less deal with the flanks.We'll see what we can do on the 2nd Ghoul line of forts now that we've sent a larger force.
Rolled 87>>27529466these strains, do we have a rough figure of their number in the horde? 1% 10% 25% ?
Rolled 44>>27528979Fortifying have begun for the surrounding area.2 Richard continues. Says it has been completed.3 resources points acquired. Month 161>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice9 Resource points.>>27529489Nope that was the ghoul rep of the line of defense we are at. The rest of them are complaining about not being able to do much thanks to having to fight off HUGE zombie hordes everywhere. They can't spare the manpower. >>27529567Unknown they tend to be most concentrated among special zombies.
>>27529588well. now that the failsafes have been implemented. FULL DEPLOYMENT. let us turn this horde the way it came.
Rolled 69>>27529588bah meant month 165Pop increaseMemor 2800Strong Arm 1500Vizen 1600Buggers 1500Rix 1400Viroz 1500Mulic 900Ortor 900Tectus 400The ghoul bases are about to be overwhelmed and have informed our forces that they should retreat while they still can. They meanwhile will buy us time to escape by going on one final suicidal push outward to force the zombie hordes to back off however temporarily.
Rolled 98>>27529609Rolling for it
Rolled 87>>27529609Need to know what that exactly all is you know.
>>27529624We already retreated to the 2nd line. It was part of >>27528979.
>>27529647ah right. wrote them up earlier.here is what I suggest as failsafes for the parasite.1. we partition that part of from the rest of the hivemind.2. zora and the prophet will have to be vigilant.3.>>275282224. We aim the entropic virus agains the zombies that will be infested with the parasite. controlled by those that are not currently inside the hivemind5. 5. Make it so that the parasites only work one-way with the hivemind. they can only recieve orders but not send back feedback. that way we can order them around but not see through their eyes leading to us having to have a man on site or a vertibird or whatever so we can order them around. This would make it impossible though for SWH to gain access to the hivemind, happy then? they would just be recievers for orders (tuned to our specific frequency ofc)for that to fail then first A. the parasite has to actually connect with their hivemind when it's mostly just using the body as a puppet.B. SHW must have the ability to attack that way.C. zora and the prophet must nut be able to resist her.D. The parasites must lose the ability to blow themselves up.E. The zombies must spontaniously become immune to the virus.F. be able to connect to our hivemind without a way to connect to it......
Rolled 59>>27529588"Richard. Whatever comes of this. Whatever unforseen and unkowns, no matter how outlandish or impossible to predict, we hold you personally responsible for what your mindvirus shall do this day and in the years to come. For good or bad, the blood of our enemies or the blood of us all, they are on your hands""And you Clora, Prophet, should Richard fail you are all that stands between us and she who hungers. Our people are in your hands as well">>27529588>Basic 1Continue base fortification>Basic 2Gather more resources while we still can, and send 3 more to the matriarch behind the Ghouls secondary lines>Basic 3Clora, Richard, and the best mulics we have keep a vigilant mind. Whatever segregated hivemind failsafes we have, enact them. CombatMatriarch and her spiderlings help fortify the secondary line. Have Ramona and her crews prep for the oncoming horde.>>27529637>>27529609Once it has been confirmed the suicidal push of Ghoul has been slain. . .deploy the virus.
>>27529722*continue outer base fortifications
>>27529722I assume you mean parasite and not virus.
Rolled 27>>27529722Time to open up Pandora's box again.Is hope inside, or is it evil?
>>27529790well with a parasite roll of 98 and all those precautions we should be fine.>>27529637
>>27529790the worst thing that could happen is that we get shared Control of the zombies or that the parasite infects more things and we start controling even more beings.
Rolled 66>>27529722Alright then.
>>27529854>the worst thing that could happen is. . .I find your lack of faith in EDE's imagination, disturbing
Rolled 92>>27529854See>>27529877At least we haven't rolled a one mfw this is a 1
>>27529877Fine, assuming the fail-safes were implemented and Richard didn't decide to stab us in the back. There are some things that could go wrong.... badly... buuut not sure if I should mention them. like the parasite starting to infect memors and somehow changing the frequency to the SWH frequency and turning them into puppets. Or people fearing our new parasite and starts war with us because of it.I'll just not mention the really nasty ones :D
Rolled 59>We designed this ship with every single failsafe we could implement and then some>There's no possible way it could sink!
Rolled 31>>27529722>>27529693Fortification work continues.5 resources acquired from salvaging teams.Safety and countermeasures for virus deployed. Month 166>>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>>H. Your choice7 Resource points.>>27529877not sure if complement...You are Commander Jer of the these bases right now your forces are sending out one final push. You claimed it was to buy the muties time. That was a lie what was really going to happen was you were about to unleash the flood-works. So your forces charged out. With one final push the last of your forces charged into the maw of the beast. You are Kergan you see nothing but zombies yet you charged. You are Morka you throw the last of your grenades into the enemy.You are Jess you ran out of ammo and began to pummel the zombies to death with your empty gun. You are Jez you just activated are under the enemy making sure the plasma veins are still running you had already made your fore-way deep into the darkest depths where even the tunnels dare not tread. There you found a very special facility....."Security overrides accepted beginning countermeasures of sector D9 through G5.You are Janet a Memor the ghouls were about to be overun the suicide push doing very little. So you fired the new parasite missiles. to be continued.
Rolled 37>>27530071Hah! Well let's hope they're ghoul-compatible too!
>>27530071>You are Janet a Memor the ghouls were about to be overun the suicide push doing very little. So you fired the new parasite missiles. About?About!What the devil, we're supposed to confirm they're dead first.
Rolled 24Hey guys, didn't Burke say something about his base being in sector D Ni- OH SHIT
Rolled 1>>27530114It's just unMemor like not to jump the gun
>>27530151good thing that 1 wasn't connected to anything.And yes... I'm really starting to notice a trend towards impatience among the memor.
Rolled 79>>27530071They worked glorious the infected zombies turned on their comrades and spread causing massive amount of havoc. That was until they froze in place as if paraylyzed. Then came a psionic shriekI SSEEE YOOUUU. and push the infected zombies...they were being halted psionicly and something pushed MASSIVELY against our Overmind. You are Ingrid you are currently facing of against a zombie that leaps between the overgrown trees it leaps towards you claws outstretched and mouth full of razor teeth opened impossibly wide. The last thing you saw are eyes full of all consuming hunger as you raised your last half broken knife. That was when our heroes Prophet, Clora'Zel, and even Rasa fought back desperately trying to hold the tide. They were succeeding until it used the the infected zombies as nodes to draw out the HUNGER of ALL the zombies and used that raw power to brute force its way through. You are Ger a zombie now hit with a parasite of which you obeyed. Didn't have much choice despite your hunger you were forced to attack those who did not smell good. Then you got frozen somehow that was when you felt the strange touch that could even manipulate the hunger which then opened you up as a channel for it all...Despite our amazing defenses our our resistance was overwhelmed. Our forces began to go mad and even our precious hivemind began to fall around us. That was until a very special kill switch was activated killing the parasitic zombies instantly.When our forces came to was when a GIGANTICLY MASSIVE GIGGA EXPLOSION swept across the Eastern Swamp that woke them up....which was now completely gone. >>27530114They are dead. The zombies were pouring over them and infesting the fallen bases.
>>27530189I really wonder how she managed to go through the wrong way of a one-way Communicator :o seeing as the parasites were only capable of recieving information, not sending it. this needs investigating. atleast we now know that the killswitch works and that SWH somehow can break into our hivemind without an acces Point as long as she has a reciever as a frame of reference... or something. either that or all the failsafes weren't implemented.
Rolled 70>>27530227They were implemented. She Who Hungers is all powerful.She instantly took control and psionically mutated the virus into becoming a two way node in a matter of seconds.She guided her troops to avoid the entropic missiles.In fact I highly doubt we had anything at all to do with this explosion.
>>27530251that explosion was the ghouls. they set of an underground facility to self destruct.
Rolled 70>>27530227well you got to gauge SWHs abilities. >>27528220what now?
Rolled 60>>27530189In the place that once stood the Zombie Marsh was nothing but a thick fog of toxic hellish gas, geysers of plasma errupting everywhere, and a seeming ocean of lava. The surviving zombie had fled desperately at our forces...they had entirely encompassed the fallen ghoulish bases which all detonated in a spectacular nuclear explosion. Twisting the survivors that were not outright killed into more ghouls. There stood a strange fellow and ghoul in the halo of green sickly light. Carving out a certain sign in the perfect place to overlook at what occurred. It had a very simple message."Overriding feeling is the surest way to walk right of a cliff into the maw of the awaiting predator". 'Let is be said that ghouls may have to feed due to the hunger but we also can feel besides that very hunger. The zombie could not despite their superior everything because of that hunger they were blinded and walked right into our 'deathtrap'. A technique we had learned from the small, brilliant, and vicious Memor. After all the cost doesn't matter much any way if you are gonna die anyway, as long as you can completely and utterly destroy your enemy.'
Rolled 25>>27530189How fast did this happen?Damn it Richard, your delayed kill switch nearly killed us. So much for "anything funny happens POP goes the zombie's head."Also, you were wrong.
Rolled 29>>27530312It happened amazingly fast once Richard noticed everyone going crazy he activated it. >>27530251You know the brain? Only thing 'she' did was forcefully reactavte it countering the parasite then used said zombie to channel forth the hunger and the parasite as a gateway...directly into your Overmind. You had everything figured out user BUT the sheer massive power of the all consuming HUNGER.
>>27530312Viruses were never Richards specialty.MUCH LESS failsafes, how many times has the guy had to deal with his inventions going awry?It's a blessing we gave him a base far away.
>>27530306now we investigate how she was able to change the direction of the flow and hijack it like that, then we research counter-measures and improvements, take what we learned and try to emulate this ability to use on the monsters of the swamp, And use the parasites on the other denizens of the swamp that isn't part of SWHs hivemind. We've learned from this, and we are stronger for it.
Rolled 55>>27530227 Told you so, at least we didn't roll a 1 so we didn't die First of all, Richard doesn't know shit about psionics. So when he thought he was designing a 1-way communicator he wasn't necessarily.Also though psionic acuity is psionic acuity and so an immensely powerful psionic being can repurpose it nearly at will. She doesn't need a special access point, She's an Old-World experiment gone awry on how to make THE MOST POWERFUL PSYCHIC THING. She did use our tie to the parasites to get a toehold though.The failsafes on the parasite didn't work, Richard or Clora designed a killswitch on the hive-mind so there'd be nothing to attack. Top lel for us continuing in stride guys. At least this time we recovered slightly more gracefully
>>27530342>Only thing 'she' did was forcefully reactavte it countering the parasite then used said zombie to channel forth the hunger and the parasite as a gatewaySo it had nothing to do with the parasite?We simply roused her attention and she could've done this anyway?
>>27530367Everything in the swamp is connected to SWHLooks like this is another experiment for the vault. Bag it, tag it, and lock it up.
Rolled 43>>27530350Well he sorta IS a mad scientist...and it was never said that he didn't become a War Criminal by accident. >>27530381No she needed the parasite...a perfect gateway which just so happened to be directly linked to a zombie. Damn near did all the work for her all she had to do was turn a switch that was it.
Rolled 20>>27530381Well, she had <x> many <millions, hundreds of thousands, etc.> of zombies as conduits. They had a hivemind that she jacked using the few that had been infected by the parasite and used it to overwhelm us. She's extremely powerful, but she's also much smarter than us and has been playing the psionic game for far longer.
>>27530400But she still had to reprogram/mutate the conquered parasite from a one way node to a two way node correct?
>>27530342>>27530370right, so this time we make it so the parasites don't go into the brain AT AL on the SWH beings, she can Control the head however much she wants. we Control the limbs and the body. and have more psionically gifted individuals work on the 1-way thing.>>27530399all the mutants and the bandits etc are connected? and why did the zombies and monsters fight if they were both part of the SWH hivemind?
Rolled 93>>27530310>Let is be said that ghouls may have to feed due to the hunger but we also can feel besides that very hunger. The zombie could not despite their superior everything because of that hunger they were blinded and walked right into our 'deathtrap'.>A technique we had learned from the small, brilliant, and vicious Memor. After all the cost doesn't matter much any way if you are gonna die anyway, as long as you can completely and utterly destroy your enemy.There are no words to aptly described how pleased I am at this.
Rolled 97>>27530400D...Do we g-get Voss back now...? >Plz EDE-kun
>>27530417Another change that should be made is having them automatically selfdestruct if any tampering of them is attempted, (and if possible cause a backlash at the one tampering) this should prevent any repurposing of them.
>>27530432>all the mutants and the bandits etc are connected?Corrupted actually, from small or large degree, her tendrills reach out everywhere. Our hivemind was for a long time too.> and why did the zombies and monsters fight if they were both part of the SWH hivemind?Part of her plan. To breed them through conflict, and terraform the swamp in all directions.
Rolled 89>>27530432No, we Hah, jk like this advice is going to be taken stop trying to INTO BIG PSIONICS while we have a centuries old Psionics-Specialized BBEG right under our feet!
Rolled 84>>27530456No, the zombies and monsters fought because the Heart of the Swamp controlled the monsters while the Zombies were more buddy-buddy with SWH
>>27530449Look man, we gave your virus a fair chance and it had a fair run.But the risks posed still outweighy any benefits or further failsafes.There are other projects, other interesting things to think up. Especially now that we've sealed off the eastern front.
>>27530458we're not going big psionics. we are going small failsafe psionics. and if the psionic part doesn't work, just have them leave the hivemind and go on instictive hate of SWH and the zombies or something. once we've covered all things she could do to corrupt our parasites, guess what. she won't be able to corrupt them any more. you don't throw something away after the first time it proves to have a flaw, you remove that flaw and improve it.
Rolled 78>>27530479>I wouldn't count the Eastern Front as sealed off just yet, Anon.
Rolled 35>>27530441Why the hell do you want Voss back? In any case gonna end the thread here(see no directly taking actions) will stick around for discussion and also doing the coalition meeting who are more or less twiddling their thumbs at the moment. Cause you can still talk to npc/heroes and shit.
Rolled 18>>27530503"We're just going to do one small little Psionic Deterrence Field guys! What's the worst that could happen!"
Rolled 59congratulate the ghouls on a very beautiful phiric victory and thank them for the little shoutoutreturn home and lick wounds
>>27530503>she won't be able to corrupt them any moreShe always will be.There's nothing we can do to stop that.
Rolled 18>>27530514Because we never got to use Voss, but he would've been great. Looting everything even the things that are nailed down training up elite level bandits from peasants, being a badass more cunnin' version of Dualfists (he was more stronger).
So, updated map anyone?How big is this crater we're talkin here?
>>27530545>Mfw Dualfists is Gork, brutal but cunning>Voss is Mork, cunning but brutal
Rolled 94>>27530546well i know where torgs going sightseeing next
>>27530526Nothing we can do at the power level we're currently at anyway. Once we kill her I bet we'll learn some things and be players in the psionic field. And, on the broken flesh of Dualfists, the torn corpse of Voss, and all the Memor who have died in this filthy swamp I swear...we *will* kill Her.
>>27530520that was due to lack of planning and forethought. and if we just remake them into instinctive creatures instead of hivemind creatures there no longer is any link to our hivemind at all.>>27530526well, there are several things suggested that could work. if nothing else set up several layers of broodminds to take this through that each would work in a new confusing way that SWH would have to learn of to reach the next, with each layer being able to be separated from the others and thus breaking the chain and removing the danger while also slowing any incursions down.And as EDE said, the reason SWH was able to break through was due to the sheer number of zombies, she no longer has that number now does she? We can also improve our psionic potential etc. there is no need for this to be a failed project by a long shot.
>>27530599>there is no need for this to be a failed project by a long shot.Not failed.Dangerous. And not cost effective.
>>27530566Ya got it backerds ya filthy grot! Mork is da brutal wun. Gork is da cunnin' wun
btw EDE. did we learn anything about the nature of SWH while the hiveminds were connected? >>27530614So far? no. it hasn't been cost effective. but the potential is so vast. and not just the zombies. humans and other mutants as well, imagine a human army, suddenly a lot of them stop with pained expressions, approaching their friends ´who do the same, until most of the army is under the sway of the hivemind.
Rolled 86>>27530599did you not read the part where EDE says that they "did most of the work for her she just had to flip a swich"? yeah im all for canning the parasites, at least untill we find a more fitting target for them
Rolled 86>>27530514Let's ask the Ghouls what they have left, tell them we'll give them whatever aid/shelter they need. (Ask them if they'll present a united face with us in front of the bandits, let's negotiate some terms with them)As for the bandits, ask them if they seriously want to fuck with not just crazy as fuck mutants, but crazy as fuck ghouls too, and working together. Tell them that we'll get into specifics at a later date next thread, that is. When will that be, by the way?
Rolled 11>>27530660You can talk with both factions now/ make agreements. Is just that real actions wont occur until next thread. As for when that will be either thursday or friday.
Rolled 81>>27530599We don't even know what she does have, sitting in the remains of one of the most advanced psionics research labs of the Old World. She certainly hasn't played any of her real cards yet. In fact, now that the zombies gone most of the violence that was keeping whatever was in the tunnels IN THE TUNNELS will be gone! This has ALL been in her favor, we're playing right into the BBEG's hands.
>>27530660Still hostile to the Bandits eh?Their in a tight spot too, having been ravaged by hillbillies and zombies.Besides, that could easily go both ways. What if it's bandits and ghouls against us? Or the Bandits want to make it good with us against the Ghouls?Neutrality is primary to effective diplomacy.
Rolled 60>>27530660all of my this
Rolled 19>>27530660>>27530692In any case now that that's over can we at least continue where the last coalition meeting left off?We're all sore and have a few words to share I think.
>>27530614>>27530657if nothing else we could use this to allow ghouls to be incorporated into the hivemind.There are so many good usages for this :oor possibly to explode on the Contact of a hostile overmind or just be used to check which creatures are infected by SWH etc.
Rolled 65>>27530660This, except for threatening the bandit parts.Instead we offer them the same deal. Cooperate with us, you get the same benefits.let's make Operation Market Garden a reality soon
Rolled 75>>27530692Not exactly hostile to them, just doing the Steppe Diplo thing my main man.The bandits didn't aid the ghouls with a fuckmassive band of ghouls and half of their flesh-forces (I know they don't have flesh forces, you get the point)
>>27530614>>27530657if nothing else we could use this to allow ghouls to be incorporated into the hivemind.There are so many good usages for this :oor possibly to explode on the Contact of a hostile overmind or just be used to check which creatures are infected by SWH etc.But yeah, we won't infect any more zombie swarms with it until we've made sure it's safe against possible threats.
Rolled 36>>27530701Stop it. The hivemind will resume its former shape while we analyze it and see what shards SWH left in it before we induct anyone new.
>>27530701>if nothing else we could use this to allow ghouls to be incorporated into the hivemind.Likely not interested>or possibly to explode on the Contact of a hostile overmindThat wouldn't help at all>or just be used to check which creatures are infected by SWH etc.We have mulic for that, as well as the Prophet and Clora. And only so much
Rolled 11>>27530692but the ghouls would make the perfect addition to our forces: we need more numbers, they have numbers, we leave lots of corpeses behind, they get stronger with corpses, they just showed that they think we are doing things right (at least a little bit) incorperating them might be just what we need to earn our first border
>>27530710They also didn't start the Battle of 4 Armies.Or cause over half the calamities to ever befall this swamp.
>>27530728All of this is also true of the Bandits.We incorporate bandits and ghouls all the time. It all depends on whose willing to take the stick or the carrot.I would be very pleased if we manage to get all the bases within our planned border to cooperate with us with the least bloodshed. In a far later time of course.
Rolled 85>>27530683Alright, well consensus seems to be:Us and the ghouls (traditionally closer to each other than us and the bandits): We'll offer them aid/shelter in the amounts we can supply (including keeping our military assets that are out there there to assist with recovery/cleansweeping efforts), we request that they present a united face with us to the bandits.Present the following deal to the ghouls, then tell us their reaction and we'll see about the bandits.Necessities of the pact:Peace between all members of the pact (the first to break this will be warred upon by all other members)Disputes between members will be raised in meeting with all members before any martial action is takenNeutrality to each otherTrade caravans under the protection of one of the members are under the protection of all of the membersDesignated people (diplomats) may transfer through all borders w/ appropriate protection being granted by the owning party if it's requestedIf any member gets into a war it is their war. They may bring it up to the other members and attempt to get them involved, but each member maintains their own sovereignty.
>>27530728well, don't we want the corpses for fleshbeasts etc?. But yes. we should get everyone to join up for operation market garden.just food for thought, how about changing the parasite to instead of allowing hivemind Communication instead BLOCK all hivemind Communication, and thereby hopefully robbing SWH of most of her forces, and by the nature of blocking Communication they will not be albe to be changed in the same way. it doesn't solve everything, but it's a step on the way. If we analyze this and work more on it we might find ways to block the SWH hivemind but not ours.
>>27530827Crystals would be better for that.Look, psionic parasites are just to vulnerable to corruption even if their entire design is meant to stop that.Brute force trumps all our logic and devices, no matter how sound.
Rolled 25>>27530660"we need no shelter we got many fellow ghouls who will accept us among their number. ....hm unite against bandits you say? Would say yes but considering what you tried to do with our brethren. The ghouls would have to say no. "Bandits"Hah we survived this swamp thrive even despite the radiation, disease, monsters, and worse. Despite the dangers there are just too goddamn many ways to make a killing as long as you are bad ass enough. Which we all are. Nor how many times you will crush us we will just keep coming back like balga roach. We neither truly die or give up."
>>27530826This sounds good. Also tell them that we might be able to incorporate them into the hivemind if they would feel like it. It will not be forced, and we do not expect them to accept it en masse or at once, but it is avaible for those that wish it. (through the parasite)
Rolled 65>>27530858Parasite only effects zombies user.
Rolled 90>>27530827The deal is that the parasite has a brain that hacks into the host's brain and subjugates it. It has direct access so this is a trivial task to the parasite. However, the parasite's brain is very simple (it could direct people to follow thehivemind's orders in a very dull and zombie like fashion) as opposed to the one it took over, so SWH uses it to bypass having to disarm all the complex sentiency-locks that the host would normally have.
>>27530864yes, but ghouls and zombies are quite similar are they not? a slight change should allow it. if a change is even required
Rolled 56>>27530827you seem very attached to these parasites. while they are a neat idea we cant afford to cling to ideas that can harm us. we have enough enemys surrounding us we dont need to be hurting ourselfs from within as well
Rolled 27>>27530858We don't mention inducting anyone into the hivemind, that's a major diplo/rep penalty. We creep normal people the fuck out, they don't LIKE the idea of the hivemind, much less want to join it.
>>27530853Heh, we're all roaches of this swamp. Living the fallout, etching a living.But it doesn't mean we can't live comfortably with one another. We don't have to live the roach motel.There are resources out there that don't have to involve us ripping at each other necks, but rather the three of us opposing all who stand against us and taking greater loot and glory than any one of us could possibly do alone.
Rolled 28>>27530888Let's stick this to a roll, shall we?
Rolled 68>>27530888i like it
>>27530886>they don't LIKE the idea of the hivemindTommorow they will.Tommorow they will see our green lands.Tommorow they will partake of our wine, fruit, bread and women.Tommorow they will sit in in front of our warm hearths and say "I would like to stay here, but how?"Tommorow, but not today. Let's change that as soon as we can.
>>27530884hmm, fair enough. no parasiting SWH creatures untill we've learned more. But I see a way to avoid her influencing them I will take it ^^ but for non-SWH creatures the benefits remain.hmm, SWH mainly uses psionics right? do we know if psionics interfere with eachother? we migth want to mutate a species that are simply out of Control psionics that disrupt any psionical attempts near them by randomly influencing it in unpredictable ways.
Rolled 87>>27530888I can swing with it.>On an important side noteThe bandits, have vizen infiltrate their retinues when they go back to their bases. 3 or 4 for each bandit retinue.
>>27530934Spying is not how you win diplomacy.We can always offer them as complimentary comfort women, acting as eyes and ears while their mouths and hands are occupied.But I doubt that'll slip past the elites.
Rolled 63>>27530933The only conceivable way we have of jamming psionics would be to make multiple, higher powered versions of our Psionic-Deterrence Field and strew them underground through the entire swamp. That would probably through up enough strong static for SWH to not be able to influence much on the surface.That would also be when hordes of Controllers from STALKER come storming up from below and repurpose our PsyFields and we become The Red Forest.
>>27530934btw, are we planning on wiping the bandits out? if that's the case we might want to consider slipping a sample of the entropy virus on one of the delegates to be released when they return to their base to spread and exterminate everyone within.
Rolled 33>>27530950They can shapeshift, and they only need to replace even the lowliest member of the entourage.
>>27530958ah, that sounds nasty, I was meaning more on a local level, to have where we really don't want her to be able to interfere.
Rolled 97>>27530970We're not doing that yet. At the moment they keep the monster population down and whatever's in the tunnels in the tunnels. Also they provide a reason for people to not just move into the swamp.
Rolled 21>>27530878I had previously stated that ghouls are hellishly difficult to modify by any degree. Went into detail about it a thread or two ago.>>27530888"You 'wavers internally' have point problem is well. We both prey upon nor can we trust each other. As much as it sounds good I don't see it being likely"(damn that shitty roll so close despite it).
>>27530970> are we planning on wiping the bandits out?No.We're planning to wipe our enemies out and take our allies in.That isn't at all dependant on who you are (bandit, ghoul, supermutant, even reaver) but how you treat us and how we can treat you.
Rolled 40>>27530984No. We invested into looking for ways to block psionic communication for several turns with good-decent rolls and made no headway, also OP hinted that it couldn't be done.
>>27530985ok good. in that case we defenitely shouldn't do this >>27530972 big diplomatic NO-NO>>27530991The ghouls themselves wouldn't be changed, they would just be connected to a parasite (or more like a symbiot) that is connected to the hivemind in turn. no Changes to the ghoul at all except that a symbion now is connected to it.
>>27531000we don't need to block it. we just need to.. scramble it. adding random letters and numbers into the psionic orders SWH is sending so to say, her full message would come through, but the extra random information added into it would make it pointless and mean nothing.
Rolled 79>>27530991Very well, well if you'd like we have a few diplomats we'd like to send with you. They'd be most conducive to future diplomacy, to refuse would be seen as a snub.(5-10 vizen and whoever they want to take with them apiece. Total size less than 25, all equipped with our best arms and armor and in our best vehicles)
>>27530991Trust requires both parties. We would offering our trust as much as you would be offering yours. You cannot have trust without giving it.As for seeing it as unlikely, we are Memor. We live and breath unlikelihood. Our very existence is a miracle of chance time and time again. The only certainty we know is in the actions we take.You have nothing to lose, but the world to gain of this.
Rolled 36>>27531039Very well, rolling for it.This is the backup>>27531037For if ghouls and bandits fail.
Rolled 40>>27531068Forgot roll
Rolled 89>>27531039>>27531061that feel when players are such excellent diplomats yet keep getting shitty rolls countering it. Just wait eventually you will get a decent roll and pull it off. >>27531039"Saying that we have nothing to lose is incorrect. We will end up losing ourselves. "
Rolled 25>>27531084"you won't lose yourselves, that you are afraid of doing so just indicates how tempting this is, how much you fear the benefits that could cause you to abandon what you are. but you can have both, you can reap the benefits of this agreement and stay true to yourselves don't let the fear of wanting keep you from what you want."
>>27531084>We will end up losing ourselves. Who are you? A bandit?You can still raid, only this time you shall raid with ours and the ghouls for far greater riches than you can imagine.You can still own land. Only your land will be protected by your neighbors, rather than coveted by them.Your wealth is yours, but now benefits and growth from the caravans.Your thirst and curiosity for pleasure will be quenched, this we can promise you beyond your imaginationYou will always be bandits to the core, just like the bandits in our service are still bandits. You do not lose yourselves, you gain it, greater than it ever was before.We will not enforce hivemind, only offering prosperity towards us all.
Rolled 37>>27531084Your 'self' is so fleeting a thing. Months ago, when you occupied the marshes to the west with an iron fist, sucking dry the resource wells and dreaming grand dreams for the future did you see your...self speaking with one of the Memor? Well you might've, but it certainly wasn't like this was it. No, your self is actually what you will gain. No ghouls, zombies, or mutants standing threateningly behind your back, only allies maintaining the lines of trade that will make us all rich. Is the promise of return to your past selves worth a minor sacrifice in the current? That, is your question.
Rolled 31>>27531135Fucking A, GOOD ROLL THIS TIME
Rolled 80>>27531122i feel it this time
Rolled 57>>27531122a roll for this 1
Rolled 13>>27531084Are you applying our diplomacy modifier to all diplomacy rolls in this thread in-generation? I see the hand of an AI at work.
>>27531160I Think you're on to something.
Rolled 69>>27531122Oooh, that's really good actually.
Rolled 79>>27531084We're all waitinggggg
Rolled 83>>27531122>>27531153hm I...very well.2/3 of bandit reps have joined us. The rest(and most powerful refused on the grounds that we are not mighty enough)The Ghoulish Legions have but two terms for us. 1 we do not trade in ghouls. Ever. 2 Wiping out/converting the remaining zombie presence in the Marsh. The mutants meanwhile will join us...but only if someone accomplishes a rites and proves themselves as a people. Meanwhile a few months before in a far away place. Stood a a Rix overlooking a crater.War chief we need to depart soon if we are going to make it to the coalition meeting....Just remembering the best fight a non Rix has ever given me worm larva. Ah with the great fighter of but one fist yet somehow fights as if has two. Indeed. ...Then why here?This is where he died fighting surrounded by enemy on all sides and killing the strongest of them with but his own arm.....how did he do that with with no arms?Exactly my point.
>>27531243sure sounds good. agree to it.well, now I'm off. cya and thanks for great quest.
>>27531243>The Ghoulish Legions have but two terms for us. >1 we do not trade in ghouls. Ever. >2 Wiping out/converting the remaining zombie presence in the Marsh.Terms accepted. Excellent.As for the mutants, haven't the legendary tales of our numerous heroes proved our people?Can you mark those that have joined us on the map? I really hope their somewhat in line with border Tier 1.Can we count their population towards the establishing of the shared border?
>>27531264Goodnight fellow hiveminder.Your input is appreciated, even if results may vary.
Rolled 53>>27531243>...Just remembering the best fight a non Rix has ever given me worm larva. >Ah with the great fighter of but one fist yet somehow fights as if has two. >Indeed. >...Then why here?>This is where he died fighting surrounded by enemy on all sides and killing the strongest of them with but his own arm.>....how did he do that with with no arms?>Exactly my point.We did capture a hivemind movie of Duelfists final stand right? If not it's a damn shame.
Rolled 44>>27531290I think we did.
Rolled 13>>27531243We'll be sure to notify Irewin.How do the sentients feel about the mindless ferals? Do they wish us to leave them alone, or would they mind if Irewin collects them and gives them to the ghouls free of charge?Also I presume an formal non-agression and cooperation treaty is in order between our three parties.
Rolled 35>>27531318I think we got roughly this:>>27530826
Rolled 49>>27531243I suppose we'll find out about that next thread. Goodnight A.I. EDE, great thread. Glad the grand event didn't destroy us this time though I know you aren't nearly as thrilled about that
Rolled 34>>27531330>>27530826i would like EDE to confirm this(dont want to assume anything with politics)
Rolled 81>>27531243In a strange place stood a lone figure look at a worn out pic of a gigantic figure with a metal arm and smaller figure riding piggy back firing us guns up widely.Uh sir we got a guest.Que streams of obscenities in answer.Sir we just wanted to know if we should accept the coalition deal with the Memor...An even longer stream of obscenties followed by a knife sent flying impaling a certain image.Understood King.>>27531271 Marked.Negative. Bandits cannot into agriculture and such without pillaging/tribute. >>27531318Problem with ferals is there are always so damn many of them. Most ghouls just gather them up whenever they need some fodder. >>27531352more or less a crude pact.
Rolled 88>>27531243I sense a replacement for Dualfists. We might have to cook up a special symbiote for Alexis, and/or have her pick up some new digs from EVE to do these challenges...
Rolled 37>>27531361Well the big hurdle is gone. Now we'll just have to keep our promises.
Rolled 70>>27531361>Bandits cannot into agriculture and such without pillaging/tribute.That's not exactly what I mean, I meant can we expect them to help keep the borders safe by hunting monsters or our crews as we work on it?Also, what of the other factions that aren't neceraliy part of us? Will the other ghouls still assist if we plan to rid a hive or something?
Rolled 93Alright guys, we need to distribute biomod enhancements to all these guys ASAP
Rolled 26>>27531361All the yellow patches are ghouls right? As soon as we clear the east swamp they'll join us?
>>27531384save it for next thread, start planning on how we can get shit done.
Rolled 77>>27531381They can patrol or guard but beyond that not much.Other factions are an unknown. Ghouls will assist whenever you decide to go after zombies. >>27531392East Marsh is cleared the problem is the rest of the Marsh.
Rolled 14my proposed 1st united actionghouls come in from sides and pin the zombies in placememor and bandits murderrapefuckpillage from the flanks until there is nothing leftthis is of course after we gather a suffitent force and get our bio-borg spiders in greater numbers, this should be a great test of our new alliance. i know ghouls will be down because one of their conditions was fuck zombies and bandits gona bandid so as long as no ones appear it should seal the deal with everyone
>>27531541Of course, the big hive is the big target.I actually have a priority of which hives I believe we should focus on which order.The camps marked in green circles are priority diplomatic targets.
Rolled 13>>27531571yes but we must remember that this first move is as political as it is stratigic. gotta make sure everyone is onboard and everyone is happy with the results
Rolled 54>>27531541>>27531571We should also take note of how the Supermutants integrate their semi-hivemind system. Psionic/hiveminders acting as living radios and telecoms in between non psionic groups.