Last time in hivemind mutant quest we finally developed the New mutants the Tectus, acquired a new hero Alexis the Huntress and even better have made more discoveries then we know what to do with much less research.Ghoul Reaver captureGlowing One ghoul CaptureNecrotic Ghoul CaptureHilly Billy Redneck Mutant Capture "guest"Psionic Zombie("seemed to be directing them") CaptureMutant Zombie Samples Package Deluxe(Richard actually fainted at the sight)Monster Samples Inner SwampTested Inner Marsh perimeter map.Ghoulish Warbands and scouts mapped out patterns.Zombie Reaction dataContact Hilly Billy Family respects There was also discussion about dispatching troops to scout out the massive metropolis. On another note anyone know what happened to Markus's mobile base?In other news a ghoul warband has been seen on the outskirts of our base with a delivery of some kind. They claim Markus sent them out to acquire samples for the Armor research. As apparently when they tried to deliver it to Markus he claimed he dealt in killing NOT protecting...so who IS the head of Protection Department anyway?
Rolled 75>>27284893Hivemind Mutant statsReputation Nighmare FuelTotal Population:1900Memor 1450StrongArm 300Mulic 250Tectus 150>>>>>>Military: 4600Memor 1200StrongArm 200Mulic 200Tectus 100Borgs 1500Fleshbeast 1500>>>>>>Weapons: Pistols, Assault Rifles, Grenades, rifles, Traitorous Battle Rifles limited, sniper rifles, smg, shotguns, flame thrower, mono knives, stun batons, spears, elemental spewers limited (flame acid, electric, plasma mk1). Elemental Variants/ammo. Heavy weaponry.>>>>>>armor: Environmental protection body armor. mk 2 power armor(limited 20 suits),125 Marauder plate. Chamleze body armor.>>>>>>Technology: Super Advanced biolabs, Complex A.I. flower research(uncompleted), spider tank conversion, Hydra, Super Spider Tanks(Markus edition), 5 mini reactors(limited), serum mutant>>>>>>psionics: Hivemind, Mind blank, Nexus ME, Overmind, Hive to Hive, No Limits.>>>>>>communications: hivemind, short range radio, Overmind>>>>>>Mutations: Base, Hivemind. ToughnessMutant types:Memor: very pale, large eyes and all number of marks/sores on throughout their body. Hair color tends to be on the paler side of things would be quite attractive if it wasn't for their skin problems. Eye color varies. Mutations:base,Psionic Ability+, Hivemind+, toughness+StrongArm: Twice has tall as human but slouched. Has one monstrosity of an arm while the other one is a withered husk. Its worthing noting that their basically a crude mutant tank.Mutations:base,tank+,Monstrous Strength+, Withered limb-Mulic: Hair is tendrils and moves depending on level of psionic presence. On their head anyway everywhere else their hairless and produces a faint sliminess. Which for some reason tastes like fried pickles. Other They do have legs but toes are tendrils. Has one arm the other is a mass of tentacles. Other then that fairly human appearance.
Rolled 33>>27284896Lair Ede Stat Info>>>>>>Population:1900(current cap 25000 12500 of which converted to Lair status)Memor 1450StrongArm 300Mulic 250>>>>>>Military:1600Memor 1200StrongArm 200Mulic 200>>>>>>Food: good>>>>>>Water: good>>>>>>Morale: good>>>>>>Armaments level: good>>>>>>reputation level: Nightmare Fuel>>>>>>Infrastructure: Fast Breeder Reactor(online) Biofuel Emergency Generators. Biofuel purifier. Biofuel Production Facility+. Barracks. Private Quarters. Storage labs(glowing flowers, finger biter fish, experimental fluids). Medbay. Laboratory. Workshop. Armory. biology splicing chamber. biotech research labs. biostorage facility. Psionic research department. A.I. Core. chemical warehouse. Secure warehouse. Holding cells. Holding tanks. Bionics lab. Cloning facility(occupied). Nanite bed(busted)>>>>>>Defenses: Reinforced Buildings. Reinforced Gate. sand bags. Two bunkers. walled compound. sensor tower, Death Trap. Defense systems Online>>>>>>vehicles:1 Digga Drilla. 4 bandit spider tanks(biofuel) 8 Paramilitary spider tank(runs on biofuel). 12 plasma thrower spider tank(biofuel). 13 laser battery spider tank(biofuel). 3 transports crawlers(biofuel). 9 siege mk1.2 tanks. 2 'metal rain' artillery. 45 swamp walkers. 300 technical. 1 booty tap trap layer. 3 Piercing Demon(BIG holes small target) 3 Plasma Baby(YOU SAID RADIATION IS BAD FOR YOU) 1BOOM-town( you said WHAT) 2 Bloody Bandit(Extra bloody and BEATTA) 2 Paramilitary Supreme(I can't hear you over the sound of how AWESOME I am) 100 doom buggies. 1 bombardier (if you thought boomtown had boom you don’t know BOOM) 1 Forsaken Bandit (When solo go FORSAKEN)>>>>>>Power: Fast breeder reactor( 5 years), emergency biofuel generators, 5 mini reactors>>>>>>materials: concrete, plastic, acid flesh and rock, Industrial chemicals, medical supplies. rusted metal.
Rolled 33>>27284916>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>H. Your choiceResource points 4
Rolled 92>>27284941>>272849163333ah goddamn it so early in the thread too...
>>27284893aaaaaand here's your map. just touched up the penisula a bit. didnt know if you wanted anything else
>>27284941im kinda proud that i am almost always the first to post in these threads, but thats also kinda sad to
Rolled 77>>27284941Month 34>current pop>Memor 1200>Strong Arm 260>Mulic 250>Ortor-150>ghouls-250>glowers-25
1.) Broodmother can now convert humans to mutant and join hivemind with telepathic ease. Not garaunteed but just "encouraging". Addition of other efforts to win hearts and minds still recommended. Offspring of these normal converted concieve and grow up in the Memor manner and don't degenerate the genepool.2. Artificial breeder feasble. Can be useful for generating soldiers in quick sucession, but these should not be allowed to breed or risk degredation of future generations.3. Broodmother discovered in underground facility. Increases fertility rate of reproduction and intercourse in her broodnest vicinity. Releases juices especially useful for healing, but which cannot be stored and must be used in her vicinity as well.4. Absolute control of base functions and robots by A.I. restored.5. Hivemind membership is by consent and mutation, all entirely easy thanks to broodmother. Once joined of volition, loyalty is, in practice, assured. The hivemind does not allow for slavery of it's members within the hivemind, nor crimes, and major actions within the hivemind are monitored and by consent of the hivemind masses.6. Certain hero units have the strength and willpower to hide their thoughts from the hive-mind, even massive plots and secrets. This can lead to mistakes and unseen actions and conspiracies by the heroes, but the rest of the Memor masses do not and should not be feared of treason or action without hive-mind consent or supervision.7. New strain of supervirus by Richard. One strain been deemed feasible for battle purposes. Other strain of contagion particularly deadly and left for "last resort/final solution" purposes.8. The hivemind/overmind is capable of surviving without the presence of the Prophet of fate.9. Radiation now heals. Don't ask how. It's mutation I ain't gotta explain.10. Broodmother aura vicinity can make everything better, organics, machines and all.
Rolled 66>>27284893Previous thread http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/27221371/ I am a sucker for dropping hints and tips they can remain viable for quite some time so I advice trawling over the archives/ask questions it may save your life or reveal specialsNew players are always welcome
>>27284941so after reading over the last thread yesterday it appears some shit is going down in the jungle. and also the jungle is pretty fucking bad, like somewhere inbetween the deep swamp and our marsh.also i vote we used our troops to go attack the bandits that we have left alone IN OUR swamp for FAR to long. we also produce another bombardier and whatever else we can with the res we have left over. lets save the last move for another roll of combat (if you let us) be sure to send Marcus, Alexis and Warlord Duel Fists. it will be a good chance to show alexis how conventional combat works. also be sure to have some scouts probe the perimiter BEFORE we strike, we dont want a repeat of last time
Mid term goal (i.e. this chapter or the next few)1.) 2nd broodmother extraction of deep swamp. Develop enough force to support Marcus Special.Long term goals (i.e. a very long time from now)1.) At 100,00 population, and with research into irrigation, swamp construction, and agriculture we can begin construction of national border (via burned no-man's lands among other defenses and patrols) and swamp drainage/river logging to base to fuel bio-fuel factories and open up dry land for expansion2.) 2nd tier of borders achievable when bandit forts taken an pop is at 400,000.3.) Reconquest and reestablishing of mine's to fuel industry. Involves addition of roads and purchase of mining vehicles as well as possible railway system to expeidiate the process.
>>27285127The ghouls ate up the bandits in our swamp.Last thread we achieved the consensus of researching a psychoactive conversion mutagen and assimilate a nearby bandit camp away from our swamp, under Warlord Dualfists and the A.I. reccomendation.
>>27285183not the high tech bandits that stopped our attack
>>27285201I thought they left after their three bases were irradiated.
Rolled 21>>27284997Oh god 3333 7766 I have no clue how I am gonna explain all these in random events...In any case heroesWarlord Duel Fist recommends recruiting banditsProphet suggest wasteland mutantsMarkus suggest Marsh mutantsAlexis suggests taming the 'critters'Richard meanwhile suggests finishing serum researchBroodmother meanwhile is pondering over how to repair the more delicate parts of the facility with her workers.
>>27285201So im seeing>Attack the Bandits holed up in a nearby facility>research that mutagenlets wait on the last one for the bumfuckery that is about to occur
>>27285034A few corrections could be made. A long time ago, we wiped out 2 of outmost bandit camps with the marcus special. Only the inner three were iradiated.Also, as a generalized map that connects all the land it works well, but you would agree the smaller maps the OP drew are the more accurate yes?
>>27285219anyway, can EDE confirm this>>27285201 ?also, any corrections on the map?
>>27285240Which facility is that though?The 3 old skullfuckers bases are full of ghouls, and of the 3 remaining new bandit warcamps to survive the Marcus Special those were irradiated and ghoulified too.
>>27285304its not a base, but one of the facilities. the facilities are the grey splotches on the small map. it's very high tech.>>27285269the yellow is supposed to be the irradiated ruins of bases. though i suppose i could change the color of the outermost bases
Also here's the closeup of our area of the swamp from last thread, if it needs any correcting say so OP.>>27285219Last thread>Military action>Tectus scout bandit camps for possible assimilationResearch action>Research mutagenFreebie>If can, build 4 Bandit SST's. If not, focus on research.
>>27285269thers is this one that i used for reference. but it is innacurate in the the deepswamp is not to the east of us, also the everglades are way past the deepswamp
>>27285360The two outermost yellow dots don't exist anymore, those bases were flattened by the special and weren't needed to be irradiated.
Rolled 76>>27285219For recent events I am afraid I have some bad news user.Strange bandits in our swamp have successfully pierced the Deep Swamp. They have also established quite the base on River where they have begun trade. It is becoming quite the hub. For some more bad news a monster surge from the deep swamp has occurred...their pouring out from everywhere into the outer swamp. Luckily the really big ones are still in the deep swamp. Its just the smaller chains that have been expelled. Now for some good news.Ghouls have fortified and their war-bands are for some reason unusually well armed and even friendly? Feral ghouls have largely fallen into packs or holes. Now for some really good news. The broodmother has really picked up on fleshbeast production and Richard has been trying to figure out mutant cyborgs. Apparently he either news some new 'proper' facilities unlikely and quite costly or he needs some 'volunteers/samples'. Meanwhile however he has been researching the zombie samples. His report is that the strain is still quite crude having to have lairs to convert. He also figured out why there is so many is do to the fact that somehow cloning facilities got zombiefied. How many there are or lairs for that matter in the Eastern Swamp is unknown.>>27285201They are indeed still around.
>>27285403this is more accurate than >>27285420 it just bothered th hell outta me that the splotch of deepswamp was where eastswamp is
>>27285420That depends what the Op thinks.As much as I really want to perfect our maps, I feel it's bad that we saturate the quest with cartographical debate. Let's let the OP decide. And vote on those actions people.
East is the edge of zombie swamp.West is Hillbilly swamp lands beyond that is massive penisula.South is deep swampfurther south is everglades like area that turns disapears into the ocean.Our area is the Northern swamp outskirts. To the west is the beginning of hillbilly mutant lands. To the east is the edge of zombie swamp. To our south is the deep swamp the heart of all the swamp. To our north is the city and wastelands.
>>27285463so they're just regular old base ruins>>27285502he agreed on the geographical layout last thread>>27285466so we wipe those fucking bandits NOW. there is no way they can stand up so our massives, SSTs, and the marcus special. but lets still scout first>>27285466also, are the bandits who pierced the deep swamp and set up an outpost the same ones who took the facility earlier?
>>27285562Same bandits. They have looted and fortified ad few high tech ruins mostly military grade and are familiar with psionics.
>>27285562>he agreed on the geographical layout last threadYes, which means>>27285552>>27285403>>27285034>>27285012Are accurate versions, give or take a few things needing to be added.
>>27285012in other words, this. >>27285552 it's why i made the map. last thread we got into a huge confuzzel about where everything was and o got east/west mixed up things just got confusing>>27285605is that you EDE? lost your trip?
>>27285630Yes it is me>>27285605 was me for some reason name dropped.
Rolled 41>>27285403Research action>Research mutagenFreebie>If can, build 4 Bandit SST's. If not, focus on research.These I approve, but for military>Military>Tectus scouts the hostile advanced Bandit camps in our immediate vicinity
>>27285648well, that is just fucking terrible. you just have to keep sending enemies at us dont you?
Rolled 96>>27285682I second that motion>>27285693Well, we're in the middle of it all you know.
Rolled 24>>27285682have them scout them all, with Alexis leading themwe really need to use the heros other than marcus more
Rolled 49>>27285682so this is agreement with this roll>>27285714i support using this plan for the scouting>>27285715
Rolled 66Im drawing up a key for the zoomed in mutant map
>>27285403Tectus scouts got sent scout out bandits. On their return they state the marsh bandits have grown increasingly hi tech. They couldn't get to close as they had psionics users nearby. City wise scouts indicate that the bandits gangs have been laying low. Apparently there is a war going on between Light City and Crater Bulge. The ones who haven't picked sides are mostly laying low between preying on the both of them.Research wise Richard has completed the mutagen serum. Now we have the mutant and mutagen variety. Our guys can pick and choose mutagens we have unlocked. We can even sell the new stuff. As Markus disappeared with a crate of freshly produced stock when it was spliced with luminescence. Deal is Richard is gonna get some new stock in exchange. 4 bandit SSTs constructed2 resource points left>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>H. Your choicecurrent popMemor 1350StrongArm 300Mulic 275Ortor-200Ghouls 250Glowers 25
>>27284896Op don't forget the Tectus mutant typeTectus: (don't know how you imagine them, but I gather they are retpillian like, probably slender, with specialized eyes, ears, hands and feet)Mutations: base, speed+, chameleon skin+, poisoned fangs+, wall and ceiling climbers+, sensitive hearing+, long distance vision+,
>>27285834I thougth the mutagen serum was something we could use to chemically/mentally convince people to open to the hivemind.>Memor 1350Did we lose a hundred guys or something?
Rolled 91>>27285834nest we shall research psionic cloakingwhen you update the pop can you give us the amounts of SSTs and Massives?
Rolled 46>>27286011Here is the map with a keywhere would the river be on this map?im also willing to run an updating map if you guys want, it would nt be hard since its not like we are going to be changing whole landscapes, just adding/destroying bases here and there
>>27286011Yeah, surely we have a lot more boomtowns than 1. We fucking loved building those last thread.Also I vote for research psionic cloaking as well.For military action: The deepmarsh is too strong, I suggest we take out the bandit hub on the river first.Send scouts to the river Bandit camp to evaluate the situation there.Freebie: Construct 1 bombadier.Also changed the east swamp to different color to help differentiat zombie swamp from deep swamp
>>27285693It keeps you on your toes. Not to mention you sorta ignored them and didn't bother researching counters. On the plus side though they don't seem interested in you.>>27285960No you didn't I trawled through the archives to check just in case. Because apparently my notes were up to date completely.>>27286011Very well 3 Piercing Demon(BIG holes small target) 3 Plasma Baby(YOU SAID RADIATION IS BAD FOR YOU) 5 BOOM-town( you said WHAT) 6 Bloody Bandit(Extra bloody and BEATTA) 2 Paramilitary Supreme(I can't hear you over the sound of how AWESOME I am). 1 bombardier (if you thought boomtown had boom you don’t know BOOM) 1 Forsaken Bandit (1 is always enough go FORSAKEN)
>>27286043If we go with >>27286111 it runs down the grey area (what is that again?) to the sea. Also I forget what the little green area to the upper left corner of the zoom in map is.Also the peninsula to the far west is missing in the zoom out map.
>>27286142Just making sure. In the OP >>27284893it says 1450 memor
Rolled 63>>27286111for construction we can make 1 Massive and 4 SSTs but i dont thing we have the res for themEDE how many res would e get if we broke down those 44 swamp walkers?>>27286142ok, i know we have more than 1 of each massive, somebody check the archive. i would but i gotta get on that map.
>>27286158Oh wait, i see the even more zoomed out map the peninsula is there southwest of our swamp, never mind.
Rolled 45>>27286111of course you pick the hardest thing to do, ill go ahead and do it for west swamp to
Rolled 54>>27286224im also not sure on exact borders of west/north/east so im going to guesstimate and see if EDE corrects me. then agian there really isnt an exact border in game so...
>>27286201Somehow I lost my recent notes and got stuck with old ones didn't realize until i posted.>>27286206You had only 1 of each thanks to a certain accident with the factory.
Rolled 82>>27286111I vote this>Military>Surround and keep eyes on bandit river hub for imminent attack>Production>Produce and prepare the new mutagen broodmother, and hearts and mind tactics and negotiants for mass bandit surrender>Freebie: Can we scrap some of our smaller vechs for resource points?
Rolled 39>>27286327scrapping usualy doesnt take a turn, besides we agreed to research psionic cloaking with this roll>>27286011
Rolled 25>>27286323not that i dont trust you but ima go check anyway
Rolled 3>>27286360Oh right, I thought we did that. Nevermind. Damn, a perfectly good 82.The military action is still there. And technically the factories can be used to mass produce the mutagen serum right?
>>27286387Watch your dice man.And yeah that should mean>MIlitary>Scout bandit river outpost>Research>Psionic cloaking>Freebie factory>Manufacture serum
>>27286426Yep so this is the action>>27286011this is the roll
Rolled 64>>27286426dont think a factory designed to produce vehicles can produce the mutagen, but i do believe we should get a benefit for the biotech facilities
The good news is, if we capture the river outpost, we'll have a great base of operations to start trading our fuel reserves to anyone interested like caravans, the dreamer marauders, open minded bandits, ect. for weapons, slaves, and tools and stuff.But we still have to take and hold the river outpost.
Rolled 61>>27286591shouldnt be tooo hard, we have an excess of ghouls and a strategy that has literaly solved ALL of our bandit problems ever. dont see why it wouldnt work agian, especialy with a dirty bomb or two and led by a few sane glowing ones. lets put those ghoul heros to work.the problem is taking it from the ghouls, but we could always lead them away with more rads
>>27286622Irradiating the river outpost is a bad idea. One in that who would want to trade in an irradiated base in the first place besides us. Two is who knows who we could be poisoning downstream and ticking off.
Rolled 79>>27286667then lets not irraidate it, just lead them there with radiation, or lead them with sane ghouls. after all they are friendly right now. (they might not be forever so lets get on that)
>>27286756Well, I suggested leaving breadcrumbs of irradiated material 2 chapters ago but apparently that's not enough to rouse them.It took Miss Mox a mininuke launcher to get them going.
Rolled 76>>27286797i dont actualy remember that, and i wouldnt rely on her until we can get her into the hivemind>>27286323actually we had 1 Forsaken Bandit and 2 Bombardiersthe posts are http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/27221371/#p27228595http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/27221371/#p27228922http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/27221371/#p27227425
>>27286889We had an interview with her 2 chapters ago too near the end.She is loyal so long as we are interesting, and that Marcus is interesting too, and that we can provide her privacy (from the hivemind it seems). Her people, the Vashari, are a very private mutant race akin to the VizenFor now we'll have to take her word for it.
Rolled 54>>27286914i meant rely on her for steady combat actionsnig eespei
>>27286948We can't really rely on her for anything other than doing that which she finds interesting and is good for her and marcus. For now we're lucky that means what's good for us too.She and him have extra privacy/segration from the mind priveleges, and a tendency to run off on their own plots. And we've been fortunate that both involved nuking the bandit warcamps to send in the ghouls and building the marcus special.
Rolled 100>>27286948typed the captcha into the dialoug box and copyed it instead of cutting it
>>27287001Aw man. Another 100 gone with the wind. . .
>>27286497It can't only biotech facilities can do that and only in limited quantities. 91Psionic cloaking research+hero bonus.We got Prophet with the huntress and mostly Memor to crank out psionic cloaking. It worked beautifully combined with mind blank can make trained operatives nearly undetectable. Sadly only a handful of memor besides the prophet are strong enough to do so over any decent length in time as it is quite exhausting. Especially depending on how strong you want it to be.Scouts report two bandit bases one on the border to the swamp and plains. Ever since this the ghoul pandemic and nukes though they had to expand their operations outward again. Apparently its becoming quite popular many bandit groups go there to purchase massive amounts of fuel. What is most interesting is that they don't really trade in slaves oddly if anything they buy in order to free them but anything else is good. The river is used to send mass amounts of fuel down river to a base in the city who trades it to the bandit gangs there. >>27286914You forgot to mention that unlike the Vizen they don't hate each other. >>27287001Nice wasted 100 anon
>>27287053>What is most interesting is that they don't really trade in slaves oddly if anything they buy in order to free them but anything else is good.That's what we plan to do actually.Buy them, give them their freedom in exchange for assimilation.
Rolled 78>>27287053Month 452 resource points left>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>H. Your choicecurrent popMemor 1500StrongArm 350Mulic 350Ortor-250Ghouls 225Glowers 30>>27287068Just finished.In any case we have a rather angry Markus complaining about how we refused the armor shipment from the ghouls he had per arranged. Apparently they had nabbed some good stuff for us but we sorta ignored them...Also a reminder about the first post I made stuff could use researched...
>>27287053Okay, this means we have 3 bandit camps to deal with.2 near the plains are near some ghoul locations.and the one down the river trading to a city we haven't contacted yet.Suggestions gentlememor?
Rolled 86>>27287122so EDE, how far does that river run into our swamp? im going to update the zoomed in map agian.also see this>>27286889
Rolled 85>>27287122>Also a reminder about the first post I made stuff could use researched...>>27284893>Ghoul Reaver capture>Ghoulish Warbands and scouts mapped out patterns.I say we focus research on how to exploit the ghouls with less radioactive material for bases we don't really want to nuke.For military>Tectus snipers/sabotures to start picking off and sabotaging Bandit river operationsProduction>Scavenge for supplies? We're low on resources
Rolled 99>>27287186or does it run from west swamp through a bit of our swamp and into the city?
>>27287190Err, scratch that military action in favor for capturing the Ghoul Reaver. I forgot that requires a force to capture.Which means>Military scout, locate, and aquire ghoul reaver>Production>Research Ghoul Reaver capabilities>Freebie>Not enough resources, try to collect or scrap some
Rolled 77>>27287212we already have a ghoul reaver, along with a host many many other ghoulsi would also like to know when our envoy to the hilly billys will get back
Rolled 7>>27287212and we need to know how many scrapping those 44 swamp walkers will get us
>>27287234I don't think we sent one of those.
Rolled 33>>27287258how many res
>>27287234Well>If we have Ghoul reaver, reasearch it while military sabotages Bandit ops>If not, capture it, and then research on it
Rolled 92>>27287278we sent some scouts to go find the hilly billys. we also still havent spoke with the 'guest' from them that is here
>>27287310Wait, everything on that list is in our possesion? Holy shit I dind't see that, I thought those were targets we could capture. it's gonna be a pain in the ass to have to individually research and interrogate them.
Rolled 28>>272872861 resource per 4.Warning we do not have the capability to construct more confirm scrapping?>>27287340You can thank a hero and 100.
>>27287382Only the 44 outdated walkers.
>>27287440Outphased, by bad.Bigger is better.Like the switch from the panzer 38, to the tiger tank it's the way of things.
Rolled 97>>27287493'bigger is better' oh god you guys are gonna have a bad day. Soon. Heheh.
>>27287440As Marcus said "As a general rule of thumb, a larger vehicle is worth 5 of a smaller variety"Unless, the little walkers are really that good over more SST's
>>27287440Scrap all but 4 of the swamp walkersWe might want to stack those things up with plasma throwers or build SST or Massive versions of them
>>27287517Walkers are implied to be regular spider tank size
>>27287493>>27287517Don't doubt the little guys man.I was gonna propse a new breed of bioborg that Richard could make. Spider drones. Imagine, dozens of the little buggers crawling around the ST's and the SST's, making repairs.And since their so small we could churn out hundreds, maybe thousands with not to many resources
>>27287493they are really useful for patrolling the swamps and getting rid of them will hurt us
Rolled 81>>27287517He meant spider tank wise and if their basic. Bells and whistles along with mods can do a lot. In any case beyond Ghoul Reaver research and scrapping what is your military action?
Rolled 34>>27287555SSHHH let them learn the hard way anon.
>>27287552>An army of spiders, Giant spider tanks, thousands of little spiders, all crawling everywhereGotta keep up the nightmare fuel reputation.The idea of bioborgs spiders makes it interesting. I wonder if they eat and process fallen corpses into some kind of superstrong web material to fuck with enemy machinery, capture large monsters and soldiers, or fill in bullet holes and leaks on our vehicles
>>27287560Eh, now that you mention Marcus in that context let's just scavenge and let our own stuff well enough alone.Ghoul research yes, well I don't want to sound redundant but should we scout the ghoul camps? Information is power.
Rolled 73>>27287593>>27287552I like this idea.>>27287619If we're going to use the ghouls, we should.
>>27287560>Military>Checkup on ghoul camps near the bandit's on the plain>Research>Our ghoul guest and capabilities>Factory freebie>Nothing for now
>>27287702Factory freebie, have Marcus draw up some plans for a scavenging vechs
>>27287822The factory freebie can't be traded for research.What we badly need to do is build a second lab or something.
>>27287837Won't do any good. This is a bioreseach facility. We're meant for bioweapons and mutants, not tanks.
>>27287993>bioweapons and mutants>>27287552Bioborg spidersMillions and millions of bioborg spiders
>>27287837With Marcus in don't think we would have to, we already have the plans for larger vehicle frames
>>27288066What could possibly be bigger than the special? That thing is a monstrosity and miracle of physics as is.
>>27288101Larger than the standard, which is basic spider tanks
>>27288049If we can get them to self replicate using enemy flesh and scrap metal, like what Richard did with the original bioborgs, we might be able to use them to reconquer the deeptunnels. Or at least make it alot easier.
>>27287837We need a second Marcus mobile factory
>>27288161So an intermediate between the ST and the SST?
>>27288172Let's research the reaver/ghoul white first
Rolled 53>>2728770277Research ghoul reavers NotesHellishly tough I am talking one these bastards could survive getting hit by one of Miss Mox's mininukes(no don't ask where I got one). They still have the freakish ghoul agility and hit REALLY fucking hard. As in one could tear power armor to shreds. Range attack wise they barf up parts of their meals now hellishly radiated and hurls it at their foes where it explodes on contact. Disease wise their crawling with it and even radiation. If the reaver doesn't kill you your freshly nuked immune system and the disease or infection will. Only redeeming feature is how somewhat rare and even stupid they tend to be.73Scout wise ghoul camps our guys found a bunch of burrows and ruins where the feral tend to be. War band wise they tend to find some high or old ruins. >>27288101Mobile Fortress. Is the next and by far the largest tier. The Markus' Special Shop is a mobile base. The Markus special is a below that as a behemoth class. Supers are below even that.
>>27288192No, we have the ability to make our own SST size vehicles
Rolled 44>>27288226month 361 resource points left>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>H. Your choice
>>27288226Hmm, details on them is interesting. Was hoping we could figure out someway of manipulating them to attacking without resorting to nukes.
>>27288226So it goesSpider> SST> massive > Marcusess special > mobile fortress
>>27288259Well, we've scouted the bandit camps and we've scouted the reaver camps. We have the knowldge of their forces and the lay of the land.Should we make a move on the 2 bandit camps on the plains? Nuke and send in the ghouls while we cut of their escape route and assimilate the survivors?Or should we research the other guys we captured.
>>27288323You have the signs switched, but yeah.
Rolled 6>>27288323>>27288356Pretty much >>27288310your gonna have to research ferals or talk to the still sane/smart ones for that sorta info. Its just that radiation makes it so much easier.>>27288334You don't got nukes. Only ghouls did and they sorta exhausted their supply considering they haven't nuked the zombies. Which would add to their number so obviously their tapped out as well.
>>27288334Everyday the bandits stay is another day of them growing stronger and stronger.We should drive them out. We can irradiate those camps and just build a secondary depots further into the wastes if someone wants to trade.
>>27288374Can we enact another plan like the ghoul hero suggested? Lure them out then loot the bases of everything, including radioactive materials
Rolled 22>>27288374Well then I vote>Military>Send envoys to the sane Ghoul leaders>Research>Research feral ghouls>Production Freebie>Hold again, not enough resources
Rolled 11>>27288437Radioactive materials are not in such density or purity that they could be useful.
>>27288395I say we start harassing there forces with our 2 bombadiers and our boom towns
Rolled 72>>27288437The issue is luring them out. It took nukes the last time, and we're fresh out. The only other way is research like the A.I. suggests.>>27288447I can get behind this. But needs a better roll.
>>27288464Our military move would be better put securing a deal with the Ghouls so we can drive them out in a great push over whittling them down (and they'll probably make up what they lose in fuel trade).
>>27288447Use military to start harassment and use our freebie to try to find sane ghoul leaders
>>27288501I support this, we need to slow them down
>>27288501Are you sure we're better off harassing them? They'll just bolster their forces. see>>27288494 better to harras them or prepare to attack with the leaders of the ghouls.Freebie is a factory only move anon, c'mon it's been said again and again.
>>27288535Hmm good point. If we start making hit and run attacks they'll call in reinforcements and make things much more difficult. Where right now if the Ghoul thing goes through they'll be swamped with ghouls and never see it coming.
>>272885351military1production1freebieThis has been explain dozens of timesFreebie means anything
NewsMysterious bandits have picked up patrols and established yet another base. Ghouls are being riled and up now well fed even the ferals. Are really start to take action. Monsters are getting a run for their money even the Deep Marsh refugees. A radiation drift from the deep swamp has driven out yet more ghouls...except these ones are different somehow plus a radiation drifts don't normally happened swamp is quite stable. Stuff doesn't really ever move around much even rads.
Rolled 69>>27288592Fuuu why does my trip keep falling off...
>>27288583No. http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/27221371/#q27233520>"cannot shift free production turn. As its basically the automation of the Mobile Factory."Get your facts straight.
>>27288592We've got to find a way to get them to turn on each other. If we don't deal with both we're gonna get fucked one way or the other.>>27288447>>27288471Voting for these. If we can at least make sure the Ghouls won't be a danger that's a good thing.
>>27288592We need to stop their expansion NOW
Rolled 15>>27288259Son of a bitch just realized I had gotten the damned 3 and 4 mixed up its actually month 45 buwah this A.I. would like to request maintenance.
>>27288716Both of them. We stop one the other'll just creep onto us. We've got to turn on on the other somehow, and our best bet is the Ghouls.
>>27288618We have a military which we would use for harassment We have a freebie which we would use tofind the ghoul leadersWe use production for whatever uyou want to produce
>>27288744We have a military move, we use those to find sane Ghoul leaders.We have a standard Production move, which can be exchanged for research.Freebie cannot be shifted to diplomacy. It can only be used for production as it is. This cannot be exchanged for research or other ventures as it is. "the automation of the Mobile Factory."We barely even have resources to build anything right now.
>>27288738Ghouls and monsters are easy to stopIt's those high tech bandits that are exporting fuel to our potential enemy's that are the serious problem
>>27288769free Production action cannot be exchanged. Military action cannot be exchanged for non military action.
>>27288777>Ghouls and monsters are easy to stopThat's what the advanced bandits thought too, before the horde ate them up.Think, better to pit the ghouls against the bandits than risk our own forces no? We thin both their numbers and make them easy to deal with.
>>27288790Exactly.As suchMilitary>Send scouts and an envoy to find the sane ghoul leadersproduction>Exchange for research into feral ghoulsFree production>Nothing. We don't have the resources
Rolled 3>>2728847172Envoy to ghoul leaders sent will return in 3 turns.Research feral ghouls notesTheir mindless only caring about food or radiation. What is left of the brains is pure instinct. Their very agile easily moving around. Their lairs tend to be in cool, dark, and moist areas. Which this swamp is pretty much covered in. Without radiation as a lure we have to either somehow bait them or acquire wranglers. Basically unusual ghouls who can guide and control the ferals. Ghoulish War bands have ghoul wranglers to lead their pet feral ghoul packs. Bait wise will take something special to get them riled up enough and heading where we want them to go. Radiation is easy way to do it.
>>27288769Freebie can be absolutely ANYTHING
>>27288932What part of "cannot shit free production turn. It is the automation of the Mobile Factory" can you not understand?
Rolled 26>>27288907month 460 resource points left>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>H. Your choiceSpecial notice you can queue actions if you want to take direct control of an expeditionary force. Queued actions are limited to number of turns expedition is gone you also can't roll for them. But on the plus side you can choose exactly what the controlled force does. >>27288932Pretty much any of the above listed action is what a freebie can do.
>>27288932We have done it dozens of times before, when he said that he was referring to our production action saying that you can't research or do non production things with a production action
>>27288932Dude c'mon it's not that hard. Freebie = Free production turn. Production. From the mobile factory.
Rolled 13>>27288958ReminderMilitary actions cannot be exchanged for non military actionsFree production action cannot be exchanged for anything else.Basic action can do ANYTHING.
I think the issue here was terminology.Some of you guys were mixing up the free production with the "basic action" and the basic action with free production.
Rolled 20>>27288958>>27288907When the tectus comes back we'll need to hunt and extract some wranglers.>>27288958>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.Using the "basic action"We literally don't have anymore resources to put to "free production" to build anything.Without the scouts, do you think our regular forces are any good at harrasing the bandits? We do have some vet Memor who did the scouting before them.
Rolled 56>>27289098They might not be as effective, but their still a force to be reckoned with. So yeah, we need to stop the bandits right away start harrasing them with our military action.
>>27288982As I fucking said we can do ANYTHING with itYou obviously haven't been here the last 5threads where we were using it on military and production and research and everything
Rolled 25>>27289045I thought so too which is >>27288982 was posted a reminder to clear things up hopefully.Random event strange bandits are clearing out the area around their base of all threats. I also believe that they maybe constructing more detection systems in the surrounding area. In a few months once their zone is cleared we can expect some major digging in. Also have detected that bandit forces are now once more being nicely fueled thanks to their efforts. Despite staying away from slave labor they seem to be able to produce quite the volume and high grade stuff too...On the plus side though bandits are staying way the hell away from our part of the swamp. Shit they don't even like passing between us and city in that narrow stretch of land. though this is most likely due to the high concentration of ghoulish threats. >>27289098Old scouts were actually a mixture but mostly made up of Mulic and Memor mutants.
Rolled 6>>27289142He was probably thinking the "freebie" was the "free" production and the free production was the basic action.Kinda like how it took a while for OP to realize west is left and right is east.
Rolled 31>>27289172It all made sense in my head I swear its just when I tried to explain it...
Rolled 13>>27289154>I also believe that they maybe constructing more detection systems in the surrounding area.This could be a good time to have our Mulic test the new cloaking psionics. It wil be hard harrass them if they can detect us from far away.
Rolled 95>>27289154so we start using our 2 bombadiers and boom towns to harass their forces. it should at the very least kill a bunch of people cause those things are awesome>>27289172yeah, i tried to say that but i was on my phone and it was hard and i was raging>>27289189so wher does that river run through our territory? does it run from the west swamp through our swamp and into the city?
Rolled 33>>27289098Scavenge resources with basic action>>27289263Use old scout vets to test Mulic cloaking against bandit surveillanceBut seriously get some better rolls
Rolled 20>>27289263it is much much better to prevent them from putting them up in the first placeguys, EDE is trying to give us a hint. he is saying that if we dont do something now to at least slow them down, they are going to be a bitch to take out later
>>27289299Better rolls, just not my roll.
Rolled 39>>27289279military action needs to go into harassing those bandits, we have to stop them. EDE has been all but telling us to go do it
>>27289303I gather they are already up. I want to use our military to the fullest to stop them but I've also learned from the OP that mindlessly charing in is a terrible idea. We need to test our/their capabilities, THEN start harrasing them.
Rolled 69>>27289324>>27289303>>27289279I'm with these guys, use that 95 in the harassment and it will do wonders. plus we havent used those massive's yet and we need to see how they perform
Rolled 61>>27289324Fine then. Let's just ignore their new detection systems and start picking off their convoys or something. Not like psionic cloaking would be useful for that.I'm all for seeing how this goes.
Rolled 99>>27289350harassment is very low risk, especialy if we guard the teams with the forsaken bandits. they never were good at offense anyway, the only thing that saved them is that shield. and they dont want to venture into our swamp cause all the ghouls so they wont even attempt to follow us
>>27289350C'mon, nothing wrong with a good mindless charge everynow and then. It's fun and build character.Start attacking everywhere we can.
Rolled 51>>27289405not quite, but harassment can double as scouting to. it cant replace it but we can deffinatly learn a lot of things about our enemy while doing it
>>27289399And we'll use your roll to do it. SOOOooooBasic action>ScavengeMilitary>AttackFree production>Nothing
>>27289415Well that's what I want to do.Scout AND harrass. If we can get our mulic to use the new cloaking psionics to hide our hit and run teams, all the better.Just purely walking into the forrest and shooting up everything is a terrible idea
Rolled 2>>27289426i agree with everything about thison a side note, i say we develop some scavenging vechs soon>>27289454i think you are over estimating their forces, while i have no doubt that they have a fairly strong military, i seriously doubt that they could face bombardment by a bombadier and several boom towns until they reach us AND THEN face a forsaken bandit and several other SSTs
>>27289489So, 2 teams, 1 bombadier persplit the boom towns evenlyput the forsaken in 1 team and the bandit SSTs in theothersplit the sniper tanks evenlysplit the rest evenly
>>27289489>that 2Careful man, that was fuckin close
>>27289510Why not just leave the finer details to the tacticians of the hivemind. I'm sure they'll find a way to maximize our harrasment, attrition potential into the surrounding forest.
>>27289541I know, but i allso rolled a 99 so it (kind of) cancels it out i guess. i feel some crits coming, guys. and we wont be able to stop them.>>27289189also EDE, i would like to know it the river follows this path>so where does that river run through our territory? does it run from the west swamp through the top part of our swamp and into the city?i would like to get working on the river and bandit basesand when you said the bandit bases bordered the plains, did you mean wastes?
Rolled 5That feel when noticed roll and desperately trawled over previous posts trying to confirm something...oh boy this gonna be ugly even with the 99.
>>27289610No, he meant the green grassy plains. It's on his map, apparently build on the old not radiated and ghould infested ruins of the last bandit campaign against us.
>>27289622oh dear, i didnt see any crits?
>>27289651there are no grassy green plains, that is swamp that is not under our control, it was defined in like thread 2 after we kicked the skull fuckers out and we got our first map
>>27289682Well, that's where at least 2 new bandit camps are. On the ruins of the old one.OP says there are also some camps on the plains, and the only other plains are the brown wastes?
>>27289740Actually I think OP simply used a really old map from the bandit war and just blacked out the outer two. Those are still empty.
>>27289740areas are:city, waste, jungle, swamp
im going to do a bit of guess work on the river cause EDE hasnt been responding but ill have another labeled map up in a sec
>>27289778Right I get that. So that makes the grey one city, the brown the wastes, the green to the northeast in the jungle, and we're in the swamp with deep swamp to the south and zombie swamp territory to the east and hillbillies to the west.
Rolled 60>>2728939999(you fuckers didn't learn your lesson last time did you fuck)Jackson hereWe sent out our forces in two teams to harass the enemy...the second one didn't return. There were no survivors. First team on the other hand gotta away thanks to the Forsaken Bandit sacrificed itself. Never seen something take so much fucking damage yet it still kept fighting and harassing the enemy keeping them off our back. Our crap maybe damaged but at least we gotta away unlike team two.Meanwhile back at the bandit base. So...why isn't the vehicle blown up?We don't know sir we shot EVERYTHING at it. Its just no matter the damage its STILL capable of fighting even movement.That fucking thing is monstrous. Have we used plasma, pulse even Railgun blasts?Everything sir its taking on an amazing amount of punishment. We're are breaking it down though.How about the enemy did they escape?First team yes thanks to the new vehicle second team got wiped out to the man.hm guess these mutants don't want to play nice after all. Tell Cortana that her precious rescue mission is will have to be on hold. We can't wage a two front war.Sir she wont like that.Hm don't worry she wont like it but she'll understand. In any case divert all forces back from the main battle-line back here. Its time for payback after all there is no such thing as coincidence. And the ghouls sir?heh its about time we offered the bandits a deal they can't refuse. That is when a female figure broke in and started screaming SHUT UP THEY GOT EYES IN HERE.That was when things when black and was when the prophet came too.
>>27289898I would just like to take this time to thank the OP for verifying the, for some godforsaken reason isn't already obvious, fact that you should LOOK before you LEAP. Fuck it only takes one turn to scout for shit like this.
Rolled 27>>27289898month 460 resource points left>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>H. Your choiceCasualties50 memorWrecked half our tanks. Other half is damaged and will be available next turn.
Rolled 87>>27289931You didn't bother with the obvious, learn your lessons or even with hints. And I fucking love dropping hints.
>>27289943>0 resource pointsWhat about our scavenger crews for our basic action?The 99 ought to be worth something.
>>27289943fuuuuuuuuuck, you really need to impress the level of our enemys on us just a tad bit more
>>27289980Exactly. Fuck at least if we scouted like I asked or tried the cloaking abilities, instead of sending a shitload of tanks straight away our losses wouldn't be so dear.You even told us they had detection systems. It's in black and white.
Rolled 83>>27289990...they had military grade, high tech, many bases and their odd bandits with psionic capabilities I couldn't make it more obvious if I tried hint wise.>>27289983Didn't see that in any case crews acquired 10 resource points.
>>27289980>>27289943>>27289898is this fairly accurate?>>27289931and we did scout, multiple times. they never said anything about this
>>27289990>Bandits clearing out their base of threats>Preparing detection systems>Starting to dig in How much more clear can it get?
>>27290049fuck forgot image>>27290055any competent group can do that
>>27290049No. We didn't scout this time. Not even after the OP told us of new developments with the bandits.We just sent a fuckton of tanks because of idiots like >>27289489 "hurr i think you are over estimating their forces.. i seriously doubt that they could face us"
Rolled 4>>27290049You never scouted their swamp bases or patrols...only the outside the swamp bandit bases.
>>27290077dude, i said that we harass them with our superior artilleryand we deffinatly said that we should, it just said that we couldnt get to close because of psionics, we then research psionic cloaking and when i reccomended scouting agian people had started going hurr duur ghouls. which is actualy a decent plan but we needed to know our enemy first>>27290094still think they were killed a bit to easily, it's like how when 1 SST was a total fucking badass, then we got several of them and they became chump change, now when we start getting massives they are getting picked off left and right
Rolled 13>>27289943>Military actionWe learned our lesson. Let's attempt to practic our cloaking abilities, see if we can't sneak a few Mulim past their outer defenses and detection systems.>Basic actionScavenge some more>Free Production actionPut our damaged tanks through the factories and begin repairs.
Rolled 87In any case debate amongst yourselves plan whatever. All I got to say is now the strange bandits give a rats ass about you. They used to be live and let live because they had something better to do. Not any more. They can't allow a hostile force to remain at their back and gunning for their supply line. In any case I am gonna do some dishes. I suggest coming up with something and recruiting. Which I have hinted at repeatedly. You fuckers really poked the bear with a sharp and pointy stick on this one.
Rolled 3>>27290143That SST was going up against ZOMBIES not other VEHICLES. And you with a small number of tanks took it down despite it being a HERO unit.Anyway I will be back shortly.
Rolled 59>>27290186Well, lets hope our Ghoul endeavours comes into fruition.>>27290171I don't have any complaints with this. If we can at least keep eyes on them that should be enough.
>>27290219sooooo... anybody up for that doomsday virius?
>>27290171this worksand you can just say "production action"
>>27290143>harass them with our superior artilleryAnd look where it got us.You agreed to an "attack", not a scouting mission.The ghouls plan was a seperate endeavour that would take at least 3 turns (2 turns now) to attempt, and in the meantime we should've attempted to scout and test their detection systems with the new cloaking abilities.Some folks wanted to "harras the bandits right away right now" and got us into that mess.
>>27290275Eh, it's not that bad yet. We save that for when their knocking at the gates.
Rolled 24>>27290305rollin>>27290325and attacking and harassing are two entirely different things. there is no close combat in harassing. as in our troops were supposed to immediately run when the enemy came at them
Rolled 32>>27290325i see no reason why we couldnt have done both.after all you guys were being retarded and not using all of you actions when we could have been scouting and producing and finding the ghouls
>>27290360There is no close combat in harrasing if we keep the enemy away.Which is hard to do when they know your locations and can just waltz behind your back.This would've been prevented if we fucking scouted first and found out they could do this. Or tried to use our cloaking ability to see if it works.
Rolled 86>>27290186I don't suppose a peace offering would have any chance would it?
Rolled 37>>27290418i didnt know the enemy either had teleportation systems or knows our swamp much much better than we do.cloaking is just for the mind, it doesnt give invisibility
>>27290392>i see no reason why we couldnt have done both.Because the plan to scout test their detection systems and cloaking psionics was shot down in favor of a direct harrasment attempt into enemy territory.
>>27290450>i didnt know the enemy either had teleportation systemsThey don't. But they do have vehicles, and a fucking forrest to hide troop movements. Things we could've seen if we sent advance scouts.>or knows our swamp much much better than we do.That's what happens when you cover the swamp with detection and sensory survielance. They see you before you see them.
Rolled 55>>27290471we could have scouted them before shit got bad like i fucking suggested but everybody was like hurr durr ghouls, when we could have scouted AT THE SAME TIME>>27290497no they dont know our swamp better than we do, that was sarcasm, and it said they were in the process of setting them up, which means they hadnt yet. they also are not going to waste resources an set them up all over the fucking jungle.
Rolled 55>>27290497We have our own vechs that are probably better suited to swamps and are piloted by our best.
>>27290536>we could have scouted them before shit got bad like i fucking suggested but everybody was like hurr durr ghouls, when we could have scouted AT THE SAME TIMEWe have only one military move per turn. We sent our envoy the Ghoul leaders, next turn we were supposed to scout the bandits. NOT BEGIN THE FUCKING HARRASMENT.We coudl've fucking delayed the harrasment attack to scout them. The ghouls had nothing to do with our ability to scout before we attack.>and it said they were in the process of setting them up>which means they hadnt yet.Clearly wrong, seeing as how they were ready by the time we were there. I garauntee you the OP would agree. It could be as simple as laying a sensor on the ground for all we know.>they also are not going to waste resources an set them up all over the fucking jungle.What part of "everyone else can lift a finger out outmanufacture you in a day" is hard to get? And trading for fuel? Sendingo out sensors to the jungle is peanuts to them.We used to build watch towers all over this place. They've had months to set shit like this up.
>>27290585And they had even better tech and vehicles than us the last time they attack us. Fucking hovercrafts and shit.
Rolled 82>>27290642we can use the free action as a military action i have gone over this almost a half a dozen times nowand with op suggesting that in a turn or two they would be to dug in to attack you guys turned it into an urgent matter, when we could have scouted before hand and knownthen op needs to explain a bit better, cause when someone says "setting up sensors/detection system" it definitely heavily implies that the system isnt up yet. that is why the english language has different tenses.he said that there are some who can, not everyone could. we were also told that this is a lone bandit group who managed to get their hands on a high tech military facility, that implies that they are not production based. speaking of which we need to build a few more factorys or crack into some of those facilities or something cause we need to be able to produce weapons/vechs at a decent rate.we also need to re set up that watch tower grid, i suggested it last thread but everyone fucking ignored it.
Rolled 99>>27290667and no they didnt, he said that their tech was on par with ours, they just got a hold of a advanced military facility,it doesnt mean that they can automaticaly mass produce any weapon system they wantand speaking of which, why the fuck didnt we choose military? why did we choose biotech then completely ignore it
>>27290862We had to use the free action to scavenge for resources because at that point we had 0 and that's fucking dangerous not to have emergency supplies.OP did not say they were digging in for an attack. When you plan to attack, you don't dig in, you mobilize holy shit.And making any decision based on implications over personally witnessing and scouting the enemy is destined for failure.The tower grid was only set up after a stroke of luck when we eradicated the forrest of monsters. Low and behold, the bandits moved back in a took them down to the last.
>>27290902http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/27184550/#q27189958>Vehicles are few and far between but what is there are advanced considering they do not rely upon biofuels. We've been getting better at that and making great strides in the bio-research, even creating a new class of mutant that has been most useful. The issue is we can't manufacture people, and the birthrate is oh so slow.
Rolled 92>>27290957but we didnt get any resourcesand he did say that they were "digging in"and how else are you going to make decision if not based on first hand reports? which we had, saying that we had equal tech. infact if it handt been for that shield we probably would have won but whatever. we were going to attack them sooner or later, and he implied that if we waited until after they dug in their defenses would be to strong to attack. doesnt mean w cant set up another one once we finish this fiasco
Rolled 51>>27291038you must be really dense, that was the bandit horde that attacked us from the city led by the female warlord, not the bandits holed up in the base
>>27291099No you fucking idiot.>>27290585This assumes that our own vehicles are better suited to the swamp, when it's been clear the bandits are easily capable of getting their hands on superior technology than us, just as these bandits have done.
just been doing a little touching up
>>27291161this is literaly the copy paste of the post you quoted>>27189770Very well 98 resources gatheringWith news that our watch towers went down and knowing we only had a limited amount of time before the Bandit Horde was upon us the Hivemind sent its forces out in force to gather one final batch of resources while it was till safe. Which they did with despertate fervor. 10 Resource points acquired.News for some reason the Glows Krew Raiders have joined the Bandit Horde. Richard has given us access the borgs sensors to see what we pick up here is what we got.A bandit force numbering well over a 10000 troops(exact number unknown borgs are crude/stupid). Vehicles are few and far between but what is there are advanced considering they do not rely upon biofuels. 2/5 of bandits have some type of bandit craft power armor.1/5 have a legit power armor.4/5 bandits have heavy weapons of some kind(motherfuckers are packing BIG time)1/5 bandits have outcast armor1/5 have basic raider armor1/5 have environmental armor of some kind
>>27291187THE BANDIT HORDE
>>27291060>but we didnt get any resources>>27290036> case crews acquired 10 resource points.>and he did say that they were "digging in"Exactly. If they are digging in they are not preparing to attack. You do not fucking dig in when you prepare to attack thats fucking retarded. OP even says they were a "live and let live" type of group.>and how else are you going to make decision if not based on first hand reports? which we hadNope. We didn't because we didn't send a fucking scouting team before we tried to harras them.>we were going to attack them sooner or laterAnd clearly later would've been the better option>and he implied that if we waited until after they dug in their defenses would be to strong to attack.No, he never once said they would be too strong to attack, only that they were digging in AND that they were setting up sensors.Attacking at that moment in time and that context can not be justified under any circumstance. One more turn of scouting is all it could've taken.
>>27291187>>27291212And they were able to aquire vehicles entirely capable of transversing the swamp. Just like these ones were. Through fucking trade
Rolled 14>>27291038Which is why I suggest recruiting and gave several options beyond whatever the players may have came up with. >>27290347Envirmonetal protections blocks out virus and consideirng their high tech...Not to mention the swamp itself is beyond terrible even Richard doubts how effective it would be in the long run complain about facility this research that. >>27290419you could try but how would you do so?>>27290667They got access to military grade among other high tech level things. And unlike our under armed forces much less our paramilitary units theirs are at complete functionality according to Markus. With all the bells and whistles to boot.>>27290862They were indeed beginning to set up. Thing was they WERE planning to clear out the area BEFORE setting it up completely. Now however they plan to go into overdrive. Unfortunately their defenses are quite powerful considering they managed to acquire a military grade bunker. >>27290902I have always wondered that too anon...you could have had a field day making up crazy shit and then promptly making it. After all this game tends to be pretty reliant on the rule of cool...doesn't mean real world ideas wont work however. Gotta have someplace to start after all.
>>27291232i am fucking sick of argueing with 2 or three different peoplecan we move on, we haveliteraly spent 30min argueing about jack-shit
>>27291262is this map fairly accurate?
>>27291287Eh, just a somewhat pleasant/unpleasant way to keep the time until the OP comes back. Let's pick up back to where we were.>>27291262One idea posed wasMilitary>See if their detection system is penetrable and exactly how the Mulim cloaking ability worksBasic action>ScavengeProduction>Send damaged tanks through the factory for repairs.
Rolled 72>>27290585Actually the memor consider being a pilot aterrible fate considering how often their life expectancy. Its become quite the problem finding fresh recruits for the so called death traps. The prophet has accessed memories of the fallen to let us get a look at the enemy.>>27291316Looks pretty good. though the bandit trade base its to be a bit lower.
>>27291262just send a few scouts walking directly at them, uncamoed, slowly, in plain sight. then let the prophet "assume direct control" or 'direct' his actions.at the very least we can apologize and say we thought they were like all the other bandits. could give it a shot
Rolled 60>>27291262>>2729136210 resources is plenty.>you could have had a field day making up crazy shit and then promptly making it.>>27287552>>27287593>>27287638I would like to make a move to research bioborg repair spiders using our next basic action. These, much smaller than even the ST, are self replicating via corpses and scrap metal as the cyborgs do, spiders capable of making repairs to vehicles on the field, and generally being a scary as fuck thing to be fighting when in hordes of numbers. Also the creation of a biochemical recycled from flesh into a web like material to seal leaks or create web ambushes/captures.
Rolled 55>>27291391i like this idea, doesnt really hurt to try
Rolled 18>>27291435Surely something like that shouldn't be too hard for richard.
Rolled 28>>27291435we already have some broodworkers that can blow up at will and are about the right size
Rolled 89>>27291391Rolling for this
Rolled 73>>27291435>>27291362I approve.We might no longer need to spend so much of our free production action repairing things after battles.
>>27291510>>27291435>>27291362Let's mix these then.Military>Attempt negotiations with the bandits. White flags of parlayBasic action>Have richard research spiderborgsProduction>repair our tanks in the factories
Rolled 83>>27291391so we have a peaceoffering with this>>27291510 rollany other plans?
>>27291552No it's a black flag for parley. White flag is for surrender.
Rolled 2The prophet has access the memores of the fallen to show us their capabilities.You are Roy you pilot a of a Lancer SST. Your column was moving along when suddenly one of the plasma babies got hit with something it then froze up and exploded. Before you could realize what was a happening you heard a thud from outside your tank you thought it was nothing until you heard a whirring sound when suddenly plasma punctured through your tank.You are Jack you were piloting a Bloody Bandit SST when suddenly you noticed the lancers when it down. One just collapsed and leaked a bit of plasma. You realized that must of been the one which Roy was in. That was when you started firing trying to get the enemy to back off. Before you knew it sensors indicated that you lost 1 of your legs somehow. That was when you saw several streams of somthing fly hit and hit the boom town. You and the other bandit pilots desperately made your way there to get to protect it but is was to late. The Bombardier managed to get off a single salvo before it seemingly got attacked from many areas at once. Missle salvos, plasma shots, pulse cannons, even rail gun blasts all came down on it at once. Bombardier took to much damaged and detonated in a massive explosion thanks to its ammo caches throwing many spider tanks around. A few crumpled not getting up again. You could feel the death screams on the Hivemind and the screams for agony especially one nearby. You opened fire on it putting the Memor pilot out of her misery. That was unfortunately a fatal mistake as you were bombarded with plasma shots and missiles. You did your best trying to hold of the enemy. Now that the artillary the primary artillary was down you bandits tried to get the forces to retreat. But boom towns were going down left and right detonating massively. Lancers were soon down after that not enough armor. Shit you couldn't even remember how fast the Paramilitary tanks when down. There were still a few survivors around though.
>>27291565see>>27291552peace offering, richard research spiderbots, tank repairthat's about it for now
Rolled 48>>27291594was this the harassment group that we lost? cause we didn't not agree to send out troopsso they ambushed us huh? somehow i dont think they would have had enough time to set up a proper ambush if they had just detected us on whatever sensors they set up. so, that means they were toldohhhhhhhh, maaaaaaarcuuuuuuusssss
>>27291777>Marcus>Wanting to see his pride and joys crumped like tin cansYeah, no there's plenty of swamp for us to traverse and plenty of sensors to put in the way
Rolled 5>>27291594You are Mark a pilot for a Plasma Baby. Jack and Marry chose to stay behind to buy time as being in Bloody Bandits they could take the most damage. Not to mention their legs were heavily damaged. So they wouldn't be able to move fast enough. Hopefully their sacrifice will be enough. For now however your in the front as a Plasma Baby your duty is to blast through the enemy to puncture a hole for escape. Too bad your the only one left the enemy made to sure hit the plasma babies once artillery was down. The remaining bandits tanks are keeping the flanks covered. You can hear them firing away over the din of the crude plasma reactor. You kept on pouring out the plasma not caring about the complaints and warnings from the crude systems on-board.You are Janice in one of two lancers SSTs remaining you just mark was in front clearing the way when abruptly a well placed shot took out his plasma reactor. It wasn't pretty. That was when you noticed an odd over tank the one who had sniped Mark opened fire. Your tank shotdown but amazingly didn't explode. Thank god for weapons batteries were only horribly toxic and NOT explosive. So you were able to get out. Only to see the that the bandits were the only ones standing by this time they had formed a circle trying to distract the enemy while the precious few survivors tried to make their escape. It wasn't enough but you were able to see the enemy at least. Strange thing was you could see the flicker of movement through the trees. You could see 8 legged spider tanks even 6 legged. there were also plenty of hover tanks. However what disturbed you the most was the figures moving around the ground using strange weapons capable of puncturing through even SST armor. They moved in odd ways. That was when you saw one said figure from a twisted tree leap onto one of the trees onto a tank. Where they placed a strange charge on the tank that then detonated. You notice the Bloody Bandit tank collapsed surprisingly intact.
Rolled 100>>27291863You are Henry. You just saw Janice's head exploded. You had been freshly shot not dead yet thankfully but you can feel the live oozing out of you. By now there were only two Bloody Bandits left back to back holding of the tides. You noticed that started trying to move away from you and a couple others. Undoubtedly in futile attempt to draw away attention. You waved at the others to leave you behind as you grabbed your machine gun. Good thing it brought it along just in case. You knowing your gonna die anyway and worst still you saw some strange flickering of movement. Before you realized what happened explosions occurred all around you. You could feel the Memor you sent away all dying and for the first time in your life you realized that you were completely alone. You couldn't even feel the background din of the Hivemind anymore. That was when you realized that one of your legs had been cut off but you were already on the ground. So you crawled your way to a tree planning to set yourself against it as you open fired. Sadly you could feel a boot crush down on your leg stopping you.Got a survivor over here.Take him to the rest.Understood. You could feel yourselve being dragged away when you lifted up your arm with the machine gun you realized your arm was also gone...amazing you hadn't realized that. You were dropped off with a handful of others. So we taking prisoners?Let me check, stated the officer.No we are not stated as another soldier with a strange marking.Huh why is that don't we need the info?These ones are connected to a hivemind they would find out too much know.You heard the lady boys! There are no survivors.That was when you could hear a strange whirring sound before everything went dark. Next the Final Stand of Forbidden Bandit.
Rolled 52>>27292054...oh you son of a bitch dice gods. Goddamn this is even gonna be more awesome then I expected. and here I was just thinking about that sorta thing earlier.
Rolled 63>>27292078just make him kill hundreds and hundreds of enemies and ge a lot of usefull intelwe can use it in the bargianing
Rolled 88>>27292054You are Ravoanna a former bandit turned mutie. You were a pilot back then too. you were 'chosen' to pilot the Forbidden Bandit. truth be told for some reason no one likes being a pilot especially for the Memor due to the whole 'dying like flies all the time'. Not you however you always liked piloting from the type you built your first 4 wheeler since you were 4. Things were going great until the artillery unleashed their first salvo. That was when things when to shit REAL quick. Enemy came out of nowhere tanks got hit especially the artillery the one thing they weren't counting on however was YOU. Like a whirlwind you moved throughout the battle field blasting enemies away left and right. Taking on direct hits to protect your comrades. Shit it was the only way they could actually hit you despite homing missiles and whatever. They had to strike your friends. They just can't touch you heh just like the male bandits. God it was good to be in such a ride of destruction. You kept on getting hit and over and over again using yourself as a shield. But despite this the Forbbiden bandit remained true to its namesake you only really DID need just one no matter the odds. Long after your allies got away you kept firing way. Eventually however you began to run dry. That was only when you were in a zone where nothing stood but the wrecks of your enemies. You must admit you had to have taken out at least hundreds for this much carnage to be evident. When they finally realized you had run dry you could practically see them come like sharks to water or psychos to a unguarded newborn for the sake of some new baby skin mittens. They however made on fatal mistake that just because you had no ammo left you couldn't attack. That was when you raised the front two spider legs one of who was partially blasted away. But that didn't matter you still had five 'looks at damage readout'. No make that 4 legs.
Rolled 98>>27292341engage the Melee drivesthen kamikaze their bitch assesyou really seem to get all of the 100s while we seem to get all of the 1s
>>27292438>98This last stand gets better and better.Gd if this man don't live to be a hero of some sort.
Rolled 35>>27292451we are deffinatly showing this chicks heroic sacrifice to the entire hivemind.fuck lets set it on replay for a couple days
>>27292473Heh, you can personally replay it as long as you want. That's the thing about hiveminds.please live tho
Rolled 82suggestions on how to make the map better? im a little bored while i wait
Rolled 29>>27292451>If this manShe's a patriotic Memor you filthy human
Rolled 100>>27292525this guy, to top it off she's a lesbian to, my favorite
>>27292536Live Ramona Live!
>>27292517That's one big fucking city.I mean, we live in a city. This thing must be like a Judge Dred City if all that grey is it.
Rolled 55>>27292593nah, she's dead. the most we can hope for is her taking down an enemy commander or her taking down their best troops while giveing us incredibly valueable intel. and her putting the fear of god into them to negotiating will be easier
Rolled 6>>27292341So looking at the weapons load out. You became quite thankful that Markus includes to melee weapons to this also your special modifications. At this point you knew you are gonna die. So you went over your weapons one last time 2 raised front legs, 4 stepping on legs, plasma cutter and impaler mount. Great thus you began to dance the death of the forbidden one last time. You don't know how many more hundreds fell before you only that you lost count after several thousand that you can't even remember the number to. Makes you wish that you had payed more attention in class. By this time however it seemed like they brought in someone special. A solo figure by this time you were done to standing most haphazardly on but 2 legs. Somehow not sure you could pull that off and your sole remaining weapon being a impaler. You had diverted emergency plasma flow to the plasma cutter a long time ago and it already had long since run out. Shit it was broken before even then you just used it to squirt bits of plasma into their orifices. Quite amusing admittedly too...When that solo person showed up you noticed the remains of their forces pull back you charged but your machine wouldn't move for some reason...that was when you could feel the crackle of energy in the air. That was when you realized it psionic and one who could tear apart even a behemoth. Since the whole straining metal and popping rivets had any meaning to it. Of course that may be due to all the damage from fighting but you sorta doubt. One thing was however that contrary to popular belief mind over matter and survival of the fittest. Its not about as you see a well blased bit of matter shot into the mind matter winds. SO that is false adaptability wins out over fitness in name of survival. Which bandit models excel...especially.>>27292536Another 100 FUU fucking doubles for a new hero about to die.fuck. How am I suppose to make this even more awesome 100 she is a lesbian as reward
Rolled 74>>27292607we live on a rather large compound. that is like a new york size city if i understood correctly. also that isnt all of it, it extends a bit farther north and it used to extend alot more east and south but the swamp reclaimed it
Rolled 87>>27292637fuck yeah, she is now tied for my favorite hero with Alexis. i hope we get a bonus to all spider tank battles in her memory
>>27292637She dies. . .but. . .Her will to fight and skill as a pilot are so impressive, so valuable, the collective hivemind effectively download her consciousness pattern and upload it into the A.I. as the best automated fighter/training/sentient program?I don't know, you're good at pulling stuff out
Rolled 23>>27292736we can always end up using he as a "remember the Alamo" figure
Rolled 30>>27292736>Her will to fight and skill as a pilot are so impressive, so valuable, the collective hivemind effectively download her consciousness pattern and upload it into the A.I. >The best automated fighter, training, sentient, tactical advisor program for vehicular warfareThat could work. If only we had some sort powerful psionic leader to do something like that
>>27292755Remember Ramona! and the importance of scouting. . .
Rolled 32>>27292755her>>27292766i dont know about uploading her to the AI but maybe just keeping her spirit in the hivemind? or maybe her entire mind? just a concienousless mind
Rolled 34>>27292785yeah, and from no on we are automaticaly assuming that every enemy we come across if BBEG tier total bosses
>>27292796It a mind without a body to identify itself would be torn apart in the ocean of thoughts that is the hivemind.
Rolled 9>>27292825>implying ramona could be torn apart by anything
Rolled 12>>27292637That was when you activated the nanites you took from the dead nanite beds. You doubt it will work considering how they specialized in biology but you sorta microwaved and you heard that did weird stuff to electronics so who knows? This was also when you activated the 'repurposed' mini reactors. Not to mention that gift you got from some ghouls during a card game. The massive power boost sent your ride literally LAUNCHING itself at the sole figure. When they realized was happening it was already too late and even better the nanites were indeed repairing vehicle considering the holes were closing up. You started laughing.Just as their forces charged to surround how and even throwing themselves at you to know you out of the way they could do nothing as it was too late. By the that time however you realized that you had in fact unwittingly fought your way to their main base of all the defenses and even MORE hostiles coming down on you was indicator. In fact it seemed that they had sent out their forces from all their bases in order to shut you down. Which admittedly made you smile. Despite your ride being more holes then metal and actual empty plasma reactor, with 2 of 3 mini reactors leaking(shame Behemoths require them for construction). Yet you fought on literally buried in enemies. Your only regret was as you looked at the big red button with a blinking skull on it. As your finger pressed down on it your last that was that it looked like you wouldn't be able to keep that date with Alexis after all...pity you heard she still had her V card too...WARNING WARNING NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED.
>>27292848Well, an explosion in the Forbidden Bandit's energy core would do it.That said, if she does survive being tossed into the vortex like that it's a damn shame we didn't make her a psionic hero earlier because that's pretty damn impressive.
>>27292877>WARNING NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED.Always have a backup planAlways
Rolled 57>>27292877Reputation upgrade unlocked NIGHTMARE INCARNATE
Rolled 12>>27292907is there more? you are a great writeryou could honestly turn this "civ" into a book with the storys of the people the heros and generaly just everything. i would buy it
>>27292907On the one hand, this might good to get people to stay out of our damned swamp.On the other, assimilation is gonna be even more a bitch, even with the serum and the broodmother.
Rolled 56>>27292969assimilation never has been a main goal. it has always just been a side project that we did cause the opprutunity was there. breeding works just as wellthis may give us time to finialy expand, set up a few more bases, get a military going, get our selves established
Rolled 10>>27292341>>27292637>>27292877The song for this hero beginning and end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLTQ5PlEWko
>>27293043Breeding is so slow though. We've been trying for ages to just get the 2nd broodmother. Assimilation is the only other way to bolster our populatoin besides that.And you can't do much expanding without a sizeable population.
Rolled 10Actions?Yes Captcha for owfuto indeed.
Rolled 19>>27293092Well, once we reach 100,000 people we can start up that national border and lebensraum program.I mean, how far away from 4000 can that be
Rolled 82>>27293092ehh, we'll be fine>>27293093i dont even knowdo we get a bonus to spider tank combat now? not that it is necessary, just wondering
>>27293093Actions?>>27291610>>27291552Military>Attempt negotiations with the bandits. Black flags of parlayBasic action>Have richard research spiderborgsProduction>repair our tanks in the factoriesWe wanna know what happened? Did we blow up their base? Did the ghouls get attracted?
Rolled 46>>27293123that is a long time away.we get another action at 2500 pop
Rolled 28>>27292921Heroes are meant to make it more then just stats and basic actions/plans. Their suppose to force some character and even life into it. It seems that I have accomplished that goal. As for me being a great writer I only let it flow. Sadly my grammar is terrible so I will never be a pro at it, but its something I enjoy non the less. As for more hold up one sec got to state what happened afterwards also got to find a good song for it.
Rolled 73>>27293144this, using that 89 that was rolled for the negotiations
Rolled 3>>27293162you have solved the inherent problem that civs usualy have. lack of character.
>>27293123At 4000, if we double our population every single new chapter, it will take us around 5 chapters to reach 100,000. And that's magically doubling it each time.This is gonna take a while.
Rolled 2>>27293192Indeed. Very much so.Now if we could only remove the 2nd greatest hindrance to civ quests. Excessive beuracracy. Which is a great irony as we're playing a hivemind, ha
Rolled 94>>27293193100,000 isn't a resonable goal for atleast 15-20 threads
Rolled 38>>27293214yeah but the discussions are what eventauly come up with the best decision. but arguements about past things and insults are unnessecary.
Rolled 77>>27293253>yeah but the discussions are what eventauly come up with the best decision.9/10 timesIt's the 1/10 you gotta watch out for.
Rolled 13>>27293278yeah, shit happens
Rolled 78>>27293290Hilariously so
Rolled 10The nuke was apparently quite massive. As it turned out the reason why she ran out of ammo so soon and why the mini reactors leaked so easily was because they were overstuffed with nuclear material. Making the boom that much more awesome. The explosion crippled their forces and exposed their facility to the air...perfect for the oncoming horde of ghouls. Before their forces could recover a tide of ghouls descended onto the now revealed and vulnerable facility. A ghoul by the name of name of Glows Moan came to us after the havoc. Apparently him and his war band saw the havoc first hand as well as many others. He gave us a story. Of how at the center of the crater of the explosion itself they saw the husk of her vehicle. The crater itself was molten smooth metal Blasted all around it puncturing the buildings themselves were the former vehicular army. The strange thing he noticed however once they were done looting and escaped once they saw an oncoming army was that the crater was...empty. He heard some ghouls claim that the wreck collapsed in onto itself melting away while others saw it pick itself up and as it moved away regenerate. In any case said figure became a legend amongst the ghouls. And they are now quite friendly with us due to the whole letting them feast multiple times, Markus's assistance and now...this.
>>27293337Great.We kicked out the bandits, and things are look swell with our mutual ghoul comrades.Next turn the envoy will be returning with more good news I pray.
Rolled 4>>27293337glowy joe saved her ass and nor they're recovering in one of his super secret hideouts
Rolled 69>>27293361i dont think that there will be anything for the envoy to envoy to
Rolled 80>>27293337im beginning to really like these ghouls
>>27293384Maybe they followed the horde, making good of a good situation."See, we can provide you feasts like this. Taking down a bandit fort works for the both us. We crack open their nuts, you get to eat the tasty innards."
>>27293361>We kicked out the banditsWell, one of them. Did we knock out the river outpost or one of the wasteland plains one?I really hope it's not the river for reasons.
Rolled 87>>27293456it was probably the river because he said main. and the trade would probably make it the main
Rolled 56>>2729314489Our tanks underwent repairs. Luckily the factory was capable of doing it without assistance. A good thing too considering how sad the Hivemind is at the moment.Richard meanwhile has underwent research for spiderborgs...its gonna take a while he admits. With so much traits and abilities making sure it has it all will take time. In that regard however he has already made some good progress.Negotiation wise a black flag of parlay was raised. They sent a small force towards us. To see what we wanted.So YOU are the bastards who assaulted not once but TWICE. For no reason. We tried to leave you alone and even didn't retaliate after the first attack but THIS. Attacking us again we were but defending ourselves. We knew your 'reputation' and it was most well deserved. You cost us one of bases and cracked it open for the ghouls to feast at. Could you HEAR the screams! But of course you wouldn't you don't care after all. Every time it seems your losing its just a trap to lure your opponent into a lull as you take advantage and unleash monsters on them. YOU are worse then slavers or bandit. At least a bandit doesn't make bother with the baiting or secretly even if they would happily rape you to death while eating you. Slavers at least make sure to capture and enslave or maybe kill you slowly. But at least not in the ghoulish fashion. So pray tell why the truce huh? Want to rub it in for once you sick creepy hell-minded fucks?
>>27293491Well, then it's a bad day to live in the city and I hope the hillbilly's don't mind irradiated water.
Rolled 52>>2729353010 resource points left>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>H. Your choiceYour response?
Rolled 49>>27293530i say we ask to meet with someone important. say that this is a real offer and that we assumed they were like the other bandits who had encroached on our territory
Rolled 93>>27293582we will just tell them in the end that they may have 1 base that is on the edge of our territory and not on the river and we will have peace
>>27293568>>27293530We can1.) Tell them the truth. That this land is our land. You've seen what happens to interlopers, invaders, and exploiters who wish to take it and our fuel. bla bla bla no more bandits, send a message. If you disagree, you know what will hapen2.) Some kind of nonagression negotiation for whatever stakes you can imagine3.) Bluff them into leaving/surrendering their bases. Make threats with ghouls4.) any other suggestions?
Rolled 16>>27293603>>27293582I like these, seems pretty fair.
>>27293610see this >>27293603and we got a 93 as well so we're good
>>27293603I don't know if they'll accept, or if we should offer. The risks might outweight any gains. They tried being peaceful before, setting up their own land trading fuel. We're just greedy, paranoid sons of bitches.The only thing more dangerous than an enemy, is a defeated enemy at your doorstep who can fight another day.
>>27293651We could always say that we aren't used to communicating outside of the hivemind and we were at a loss for what to do to something that is not us but is not bad
>>27293637OP has told us before, a good roll doesn't mean a good action.It sounds like a decent plan, but we need to think longterm. Simply offering them a city isn't going to solve a lot of expected issues with them we're likely to face in the times to come.Nor is it true that a good roll will garauntee they'll accept after what we did to them.
>>27293637>>27293696Let's just put a bit more thought into what we're going to say and negotiate, not simply because the roll is good.So we're going to offer them a city in peace. What is the reasoning, what do we say, what do we have to gain or lose? These things are important.
Rolled 23>>27293582"BULLSHIT regular bandits wouldn't have left you alone what so ever. You didn't care at all. As for someone important hah do you REALLY think we would let someone important show up considering what just happened? Besides its not like you sent someone important either.">>27293603"heh a poor offer but now we know. You are the worst. Thing is though that sorta shit has a bad habit of biting you on the ass. Just you wait you think you can win? Unlike you wherever you tread people die and enemies or forever made. WE make friends and people live. You will soon pay for that hopefully...especially considering what lies in store for you heh we might not even have to do anything at all!""One thing I promise you though I doubt you will survive for much longer. Paranoia will only do you so good when you are surrounded by enemies and your vile friends wont stay friends they'll leap of the sinking ship or even turn against you. After all the only reason why evil never wins out in the end is because they always end up turning on each other. The Guard are approaching and enemies lurk all around you even under. You will sink soon after all you can only survive so long by your lonesome. Even with your 'precious' hive-mind. Its already begun to work against you but you don't see that now do you? You think your all so special but just wait. It will bite you on the ass though I will admit that has already long happened you just can't realize it can you?"
>>27293709I really think that you have 'city' and 'base' mixed upBut 1base is fine, should we levy a tax ontheir biofuel iindustry?
>>27293755see >>27293719Their not in a talking mood I think.Ha, we are such arrogant fucks, debating how to tax a people who aren't even probably gonna consider our offer.
>>27293719Try to keep him talking, tell him we were uneducated on what "regular" bandits doTell him that. we know that being totally evil is wrong and that is why we didn't attack against at this base. Try to sound alien to them, give off a 'isn't it obvious' kind of thing. That having a not-enemy is a foreign thing to us
Rolled 87>>27293755Your underestimating just how powerful they actually are user. We got really fucking lucky with that hero unit with duel 100s. But unlike most civs rolls don't mean everything. You also don't have the numbers or tech. Just because they took a beating doesn't mean their down for the count after all.
>>27293719We shouldn't be too hard on ourselves.If we wanted to make friends, alliances, we would've been human. Bandit, military, scientist. Anything but the pariah race with a nightmare reputation, now made much more worse, awesome, but still worse.That said, we still should always not just blindly charge nor throw out the idea of communication. I really REALLY hope this is the last of this kind of episode.
>>27293837If they end up refusing and leaving us. Camp out on their front door and don't leave until they meet with us
Rolled 14>>27293853Seriously.I can't believe some people were in the mindset that someone who's digging themself in, preparing defenses, and securing territory around themselves are "going to make an imminent attack at any moment"
>>27293868>>27293837Guys, just think of something good to say.We do we expect out of these bandits. What DO we expect out of anyone?We're a confusing people, on the one hand we openly trade with marauders and caravans, on the other the very name bandit sounds like it is synonymous with enemy. What do we want out of these guys and how do we act around them for our own benefit?
>>27293853Which is why we only offer in times like these where they have proven themselves and we need them. If only so they don't kill us. Say that we know we may not win but we will fight and many many people on both sides will die and we don't want that.
Rolled 97>>27293885I will admit I never thought you guys would go full OH GOD THE INHUMANITY so readily especially considering hive mind. I was admittedly glad about the whole not Star-guard deal but holy shit.
Rolled 70>>27293927In any case your reply?
>>27293903We actually alien and confused, they seem like good people. If we can give them a reason they may be more open.
Rolled 18>>27293719Let's offer them something that would appear invaluable/dear to outsiders, while not revealing any of our weaknesses, as a token of our sincerity in peace. NOT the virus. That fits the bill, but if they find out that we have a virus that could kill the planet they'll only further shutdown discussion. Likewise with most of our biotechnological innovations, as most people would find those abhorrent.Also, we need to give them a reason why we attacked them unprovoked. Tell them that our hivemind was formed in the midst of a hellish psychic anomaly, and that our fledgling members knew predation by the swamp's monsters for years before gaining access to the relative safety of our base.As for shit to give them, I don't know. Something that is powerful, making it seem like we have enough power that we can give something so significant up, while also being something that's obviously a sincere token being contributed to the parlay.
>>27293903We just want our swamp to ourselves.They claim wherever we walk, we bring death. Sure we do, but so far, we have only brought death within our swamp. OUR swamp. OUR fuel. They form the other part, coming in, inviting death to act out.Isolation is peace. Interlopers means war. There can be no peace if our swamp isn't ours.Memor for the Memor.
Rolled 24>>27293972>>27293903...then why do they seem to be bandits anon? If strange ones?
>>27293941>>27293837>>27293868>>27293921These>>27293927And don't worry, we aren't going all star guard. We just aren't being xenophobic
>>27294015>but if they find out that we have a virus that could kill the planet Wellllll >>27291262>Envirmonetal protections blocks out virus>Not to mention the swamp itself is beyond terrible>even Richard doubts how effective it would be in the long runRichard isn't exactly sure if that's the case.Maybe it could, maybe the swamp could immunize within a week.It's just too unpredictable
Rolled 43>>27294015Also, it needs to be something that won't fuck us over if they "accept" then turn all they have towards destroying us.
>>27294030What is this starguard I keep hearing about?
>>27294045We need to have Richard further develop the thing.What kind of doomsday weapon can't even do a doomsday? We need that kind of leverage.
Rolled 74>>27294015They know we aren't immenselypowerfully . And we could give them the blueprints to the SSTs but no more, let's not suck up. I like this guy. Rollin
>>27294030>And don't worry, we aren't going all star guard. We're not even close.We're like on the other end of the spectrum.Technically there isn't anything wrong with being xenophobic for a race that is shunned by all others. It's being stupididly xeonophobic to the point of sabotaging ourselves that is pretty terrible.
Rolled 15>>27294085This guy>>27294030
>>27294018>>27294030I didn't see those. Those are excellent suggestions.I'll vote for those.I think they need a roll though...
Rolled 80>>27294095Yeah, this is that caseRolling for this plan>>27294030
Rolled 45>>27294030Bandits simply put are the 'rejects' of this shitty world. They cannot "for whatever reason deal with it like any other group should/would instead they must prey upon others. this naturally leads to quite the 'mix' of people. None of them much good according to everyone else? After all what better way to judge someone then the company the keep?""You better NOT give us the alien shit. We are well aware of your 'hivemind' and the effects it has.""As for many on both sides dying...hm it doesn't matter to us as far as those we once cared about are concerned we are already dead or worse. We having NOTHING left to lose the world hates us and we would of ended up much worse then we are now. But we were given a way out a way that we would all down to the last one standing fight for. Right now that may mean your end.">>27294018...then you will perish.
Rolled 92>>27294018>>27294030A combination of all of these.Peace offerings.Non agression treaties.Stating our desire for swamp isolation.Please don't siphon our fuel.
Rolled 9>>27294128These two
>>27294165>This guy came first! >>>>>>Everyone stop rolling, let this guy be!
Rolled 44>>27294158Tell them that we are the same. They think they are rejected, we are the fuel of nightmares. Don't pull that shit on us
Rolled 9>>27294158I'm wondering how these bandits are the rejects of the world. Who's doing the rejecting? They're the only large scale human societies we've ever met and quite powerful too.They seem more like little moving states, with organized militaries, than packs of raiders
Rolled 82>>27294204And that we don't want to be, not at all
Rolled 98>>27294216In the less hostile environments there are probably towns and cities.
Rolled 96>>27294240Pretty powerful cities too, if they can shun out entire armies of these guys.Maybe large scale nations are still a thing?
Rolled 42>>27294216Bandits are either outcasts or left of their own to willingly join said groups. Considering the whole raping, murdering, and pillaging that occurs at the very least its little wonder why said groups are reviled. >>27294240Pretty much its just due to rolls you got started in a MASSIVELY hostile environment. >>27294204>>27294218We are not the same claimin such makes me sick. We go against the grain unlike you who go with it.
>>27294267>>27294267Well if this is how the rejects of the world wage war, with entire armies dukeing it out with nukes and gigantic tanks and unleashing hordes of monsters, the wars of the actual world that rejected them and threw them out are probably terrifying.
Okay so far we've tried>Threats and bluffs>Empty promises>Bribes>Reconciling national ideologies and similaritiesAnything else we haven't done?
Rolled 87>>27294335Wait till you hear about how the world ended user. For real instead of the myths you can expect to hear. Suffice it say stating that is was a mere clusterfuck of legendary proportions is massive understatement.In any case anything else you wish to ask them?
Rolled 36>>27294288Ask what they would do if born into a swamp surrounded by slaving bandits, millions of zombies, monsters at every turn, hostile mutants all around you, with the threat of the deep swamp on one side, the city on another, the wasteland on another. And not only that but once you carve out a place for yourself you are repeatedly attack from multiple directions by almost everyone you meet, and those that don't only seek trade and their own benefit
>>27294378Dude, I'm betting a ton of them were born in those kind of situations.
Rolled 69>>27294378That feels like a last ditch emotional speech but I can go with it. Rolling
Rolled 18>>27294378This guy's plan has my vote. I'd like a different roll though.
Rolled 13>>27294403Op already said that we were born in about as hostile an environment as it gets
Rolled 77>>27294419I don't know if he is going with rolls or we just have to convince him
>>27294433That being this swamp. We're not the only ones to grow up here you know.
Rolled 53>>27294378I can roll for this
Rolled 53>>27294378...wherever you go there are hostiles. Even in the most remote of tribal villages there are many threats. Despite that people make merry and friends. Sometimes it is enough other times it is not. Plus the only reason why people bother with each other is because somehow they will benefit. Even if their from the same village or womb.>>27294433No the Memor beginnings were underground. The Prophet of fateguided you to this facility. Before being driven underground and forced to search you were but normal mutants who arose from human survivors whose psionics abilities awakened/mutated and connected with each other that was the very beginning of the hive-mind. Thanks to the hivemind they were able to survive in a zone where no else could. Eventually however the wastes stopped being wastes when that happened humans came...who were not forgiving of mutants due to past experiences. The memor resisted they were used to using their ability to overwhelm much nastier foes. However the humans won in the end thanks to numbers and tech. After that the memor were driven underground moving amongst ancient buried ruins, drilled tunnels, and forgotten sewers. There they barely survived until one day the Prophet came to be.
Rolled 76>>27294459Mutants are the only thing to growup here and im pre tty sure we're the nicest of them
Rolled 15>>27294496Actually you do know WHY you never encountered any right? As in why you never met them besides the strongArms who were already quite the bastards to begin with? Fuck none of them wanted anything to do with the Memor. You guys are considered vile bastards even by mutant standards.
It feels more like we're discussing philosophy and appealing to emotion to them than making political negotiations.Will they accept peace or not? Let's just cut to the heart of the matter.
>>27294529>You guys are considered vile bastards even by mutant standards.A reputation well deserved and upheld, and one we can sort of be proud of. . .a little.
Rolled 27>>27294493We do not know of these dark beginnings, but they show us being hunted like animals for no reason at allAnd we have made friends: the brave strongarms, the wily mulic, the overturned, and various other mutants have joined us because they seek a friend, a brother to stand beside them in this harsh swamp. We also have many former bandits among us who choose this willingly for one cannot be memor if tthey do not want to. And GlowyJoe and the glowbandit.
Rolled 14>>27294539Maybe we can at least ask for a ceasefire
>>27294593>We also have many former bandits among us who choose this willingly for one cannot be memor if tthey do not want toThat's only because the atlernative was a bullet to the brain though.It's a pretty common thing to want to live.And coerced assimilation can't really be called making friends. The mutants yeah, but the bandits were prisoners of war.
Rolled 78>>27294539It is as much a philosophical and emotional argument as a political one, after all we just killed a lot of them and we seek a peace we cannot enforce. We need to win the heart (or atleast quell its rage) and the mind will follow Keep in mind that we are probably talking to a very important person disguised as a mook
Rolled 64If we only had the Vizen on our side, at least they'd give us a charismatic bonus to diplomacy. For what little good it's worth.
Rolled 55>>27294539If you can figure it out it IS possible. Problem is you sorta wrecked their base and army combined with the fact that they can't really afford to have a hostile force flanking them while they do their thing...Its quite easily possible you just have to figure them out first. I have already hinted at what they are many times.>>27294593the bandits were given a choice of join or becomes Richards plaything.GlowyJoe and the Blows Krew Raiders only like Markus. The StrongArms only joined thanks to a Warlord's Strong Arming. They respected power and wanted to join/benefit from said power.The Mulic were in a cruel agonizing state they were beyond desperate.the Octor were much the same and the prophet came to help them as well.
Rolled 95>>27294658>Keep in mind that we are probably talking to a very important person disguised as a mookIn our case that's actually quite literal. This is the nation speaking you know.
Rolled 55>>27294667>If you can figure it out it IS possible. Problem is you sorta wrecked their base and army combined with the fact that they can't really afford to have a hostile force flanking them while they do their thing...Their thing. . .some kind of "rescue mission" into the deep swamp.Tell me, are these guys really bandits?>Its quite easily possible you just have to figure them out first.>I have already hinted at what they are many times.Dammit OP you should know after 7 chapters we can be thick as bricks to your hints.Maybe, we can offer them a mutual assistance in getting to the deep swamp. We want the broodmother, we're mutants. They're human so that's not possibly what they're after. We can offer to lend them a hand and get to the broodmother base along the way
Rolled 69>>27294667Exactly we helped them, and everyone you just mentioned is happily living with us now. Intact that was an exbandit that just sacrificed herself of her own violation, we can't make our members doaanything Someone go back through and start looking for hints, you couldn't have been a little clearer? I'm grasping at straws hereHave any of my arguments done any good?
Rolled 66>>27294721>Maybe, we can offer them a mutual assistance in getting to the deep swamp. We want the broodmother, we're mutants. They're human so that's not possibly what they're after. We can offer to lend them a hand and get to the broodmother base along the wayI'm out of idea's so let's try that. All we know is they don't want a flanking enemy for some kind of rescue mission.
Rolled 3>>>27294721Possible hints> main front> rescue mission> The Guard> cortanaTheir knowledge of our beginning
>>27294721>>27294760Everything else has failed. Let's see if this works.
Rolled 46>>27294721...I can't really make them any more obvious otherwise I might as well flat out state it which is never much fun.As are they really bandits?Nope their outcasts so they got thrown out for whatever reason as far as any else is concerned their bandits even other bandits. Its just that bandits consider them REALLY strange. As they don't really act like bandits... but their outcasts so they HAVE to be bandits. Same with everyone else as they can't afford to believe in 'exceptions' because it could VERY easily and most likely turn out to be a trick. No matter how convincing.>>27294760"How do you know of the broodmother? Their psionic presence especially that one is zilch." As for wanting that one...heh your crazier then we are. >>27294799Hinted at it in other threads as well.
>>27294837fuck are they a good version of us
Rolled 2>>27294837Ask them what there "way out" is/was
>>27294721This. "Aah," our avatar states with sudden comprehension. The Memor state, psionic effect lending the voice of the lone speaker the quality of many at once, "Your encroachment upon a festering swamp with little to offer aside from putrefying vegetative matter, the snippets of conversation we've overheard between your members...it is all...beginning to clarify."We offer an immediate and total ceasefire between our factions, and our full assistance with your expedition into the deep swamp. Our scouts have been there, we doubt yours have. *What say you?*"The final statement rings with...not challenge, but a sense of finality. There is no hostility or arrogance left in the psychic echo of words that the Memor put out without realizing it, only a sense of impending destiny. Even the bandits accompanying the spokesman can see (without even the guidance of the Prophet of Fate!) that the world will shift its path based upon how they react to this sudden shift, and unprecedented offer.
Rolled 39>>27294872Way out?
>>27294837>heh your crazier then we are. What, that isn't obvious?So they're not willing to take up our offer to fight alongside them for whatever they were searching for? I'm sure Cortana will be pleased to hear you rejected an offer of aid for your little rescue mission to spend a protracted war with someone and delaying the mission.
Rolled 75>>27294885>>27294837Yeah, surely they'll see the logic. Getting delayed in their mission to fight us benefits no one, but if we scratch their back and they scratch ours it's got to have some relationship points.
Rolled 27>>27294884He said they were shown a wzy out and they were willing to die for it
>>27294858Hah!>Deep in one of A.I. Ede's redacted memory files there's a byt of information that shall never be uncovered. The entire operation was cloaked in the most intense secrecy that all the power of the mega-biotech firms of the Old World could muster. The file reads:>A.I. Ede personality imprint basis...M. Shyla[--error--]
Rolled 33>>27294919The biggest of EDEs hints were that there are enemies below us, that we will "sink", that our allies will leave us, that our hivemind is working against us
>>27294904>>27294883Do these OP. We know they value their mission over destroying us and losing precocious time.
Rolled 45>>27294958Someone... Connect the... Dots... Please
Rolled 47>>27294993That isn't it, there is something in his clues. Something big
Rolled 79>>27294885"Our mission is already delayed even without war. We got a both a base and army to rebuild. Plus WHY should we fight along side you considering everything you have done? We have no reason to trust you much less fight alongside. >>27294919"...We were giving a way to do something meaningful despite being considered bandits. We did not want to be bandits. But for whatever reason we are thrown out and thus became them. Our only hope is become what we loathe. WE were given a choice a way out besides becoming what we most hated. A way to do good instead of evil. That is something we can die for knowing that despite whatever the world may think of us we can STILL do the right thing. Doesn't matter if the world hates us or that even the vilest of beings consider us a comrade. As long we can do something meaningful...for the greater good. To do that we must stop a rescue the forsaken, free the trapped, and defeat a monstrous foe before it is all to late. It doesn't matter if we die doing it as long we as do not die a bandit's death but a heroes. it wont matter what the world thinks of us or if we lie forgotten. As long we do what we can."
Rolled 36>>27294883meant that one instead of >>27295035 the top one used sorry about that. Either way same result.
>>27294958Ah-hah! The swamp is hell and our hivemind is craft of Satan! We will sink further into sin if we continue with our filthy heathen lies! We MUST repent and become good Christian Memor before IT'S TOO LATE!!!
Rolled 85>>27295065Nah man give me some credit that its lame/un-inventive.
>>27295035>We have no reason to trust you much less fight alongside. Then let us give you a reason to trust us.We can help you rebuild. Fill the gaps in your army with our ranks. You have every reason not to trust us, this is true, but let us change that. Surely even you have had your leaps of faith?You said so yourself "it doesn't matter if the vilest beings consider you a comrade". We can help you and your greater good.There was a time, when some of our own had such thoughts. We repressed them, destroyed their notions even. Only now would we would like to make amends.
Rolled 29>>27295035So this is what would've happened to us if we went full starguard.
Rolled 59>>27295035Ask them to give us a chance like they were given
Rolled 63>>27295110Eh, not quite. Starguard would have accepted immediately and befriended the mutants and bad bandits and monsters and ghouls and turned them all into good little christians
>>27295035Mmkay, so we are the vilest of things.We're trying to parlay with them so we "consider them a comrade."The want to do something meaningful, for the greater good...rescue the forsaken, free the trapped, defeat a monstrous foe before it is too late. They want to shatter the overmind, before we become too powerful, our members have to be rescued from its influence? And they don't care if they die trying to kill us?We're also, obviously, speaking to a member of the bandits' psychic sect (the "lady boys" here >>27292054 that seem to exhibit hive-mind like psionic abilities including communication without speech, and possibly being able to disable a Memor's senses temporarily)......mmmkay, let me look for the rest of the puzzle pieces
Rolled 87>>27295035Ask them why they didn't send an envoy to us the moment they entered our swamp
>>27295188There's a reason we're called "nightmare fuel".Since when have we ever been known to communicate with bandits when it wasn't on the other end of a gun and offering assimilation?
Rolled 62>>27294958...its been lurking in the background since the very first thread. Literally. When I figured it out and noticed how everything came together so painfully well it was such a FUCK yeah this gonna be good moment.>>27295110Most likely not.>>27295096...Our leap of fate being not to die a bandits death. For those who became before us it was the belief in Cortana despite the sheer lunacy of it. As for such thoughts I declare bullshit the Hivemind knows.">>27295127...the speaker was right about to agree but then pauses as if receiving a message. " I am afraid you have already made your decision. That what makes you so powerful poisons you. Makes you ignorant and you still despite seeing so much figure out so very little. Your fool of a Prophet that this was not true but so too is he poisoned to such a degree that he cannot see. In fact he is the one most blinded by it all. In fact a few know the truth who lie under your very noses. They know much but do not share? I wonder why is that. Perhaps they do not realize the importance or even they have ulterior motives. Either way we cannot accept maybe one day you can find redemption but that will not be with us.">>27295188Your reputation had preceded you. Combine with the hostilities of the swamp.
Rolled 44>>27295207If they are claiming to be so righteous they should have given us the benefit of the doubt, plus we hadn't assimilated anyone yet
>>27295163Having identified the speaker as a psychic and member of the high-tech bandit group what conclusions can we draw?>Note:"We were given a way to do something meaningful despite being considered bandits" coupled with their knowledge of our origins...(>>27294837) "It's just that bandits consider them REALLY strange...they don't really act like bandits.""We did not want to be bandits, but because we were thrown out we are called thus.""Our only hope is what we hate" (they hate...us?)"WE were given a choice...a way out besides becoming what we most hated." (maybe they just hate mutants in general...though it's clear they have a hivemind and share something in particular with the Memor)Posting this and refreshing to see if anyone else has insight.
Rolled 60>>27295241'cough' bandits 'cough'. As for giving you a reason of a doubt they did but they also realized something that you do not. Because of that you are to large of a risk user.
Rolled 64>>27295257They don't know of your origins that was I EDE who said such. Plus they don't operate with sheer creepiness that the Memor or other Hiveminds do. So hivemind is unlikely excellent communication however is certainly a possibility.
Rolled 35>>27295265EDE is badThe prophet is badSomething evil is under usm
>>27295299Everything about the Memor is evil.WE"RE evil
Rolled 62>>27295265It has got to be something about one of these>>27295299My guess is EDE, he was acting mighty strange in the beginning
Rolled 55>>27295299EDE is bad by human standards yes I most certainly am. As for the prophet...unknown.As for something evil is under you? why its all around you not just under. Even I can figure that out user.
>>27294958>>27295004...The brood mother?No, wait. EDE is poisoning our psionic networking.
Rolled 97>>27295231>Either way we cannot accept maybe one day you can find redemption but that will not be with us.Well then, it seems these negotiations can go no further. You won't accept peace, mutual agreements, no matter how hard we press.As much as it pains us, you won't accept a ceasefire, but let it be known no we will no longer be the first to fire the shot against you now that we know you. We pray we have no need to anymore.Declare Jus Tractatuum, and let's leave on this note.
Rolled 83>>27295321Then it is this massive "thing" that is under the swamp that you have kept hinting to over and over
Rolled 65>>27295333No, we will find out what this is. And if we don't we are going to peacefully camp out on their doorstep. Until they tell us
>>27295335Where does that tunnel network in the swamp that EDE subtly discouraged us from exploring by claim that it was "difficult, dangerous, costly, etc." lead?
Rolled 32>>27295335The problem is that we don't know what that "thing" is. Other than it is dangerous like most things we find
Rolled 66>>27295324...how can I poison a psionic network when I have NO access to it?>>27295320Well of course I am acting strange thanks to [REDACTED].>>27295335The massive 'thing' has been providing you with all your resources and SO much more. As for it being evil...anything can be turned user. As for evil per a say unlikely rather it was used.>>27295333"hm so be it pity I doubt we will be your end."Our scans indicate that they have locked up tight user...and trade with the outside is increasing with fervor.
>>27295357They won't tell us.>>27295333Let's do something like this. Tell them that they won't accept peace, or ceasefire, but that we won't fire the first shot against them anymore...and ask them for time, their words haven't fallen on deaf ears. We will discover what prevents them from cooperating with us.
Rolled 24>>27295384We also need to talk to Richard because he "knows a lot but shares little"
Rolled 14>>27295397If you are forcing it over then do this, at least do this
Rolled 17>>27295393>>27295398Talk to Richard about the [REDACTED] entries we've perpetually gotten from EDE, and do it NOW. EDE, would you kindly tell us the specific reasons why we have all of our massive defenses, including orbital kinetic bombardment targeting, focused inwards?
Rolled 72EDE, tell us what is under our baseCome to think of it, Richard the broodmother and Marcus might know because of the Marcus special event
Rolled 31>>2729539310 resource points left>>>>A. Scavenge for food.>>>>B. Try to improve the base>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.>>>>D. Research technology.>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.>>>>H. Your choice
Rolled 72>>27295447We are having a war council meeting, even if we have to force our way into the minds of Marcus the broodmother and the prophet
Rolled 31Well, if anyone wants it, here's the updated section map.If the guy can update the zoomed out ones that'd be great too.
>>27295459Rebel and put to question our mightiest heroes who time and time again have led us this far?Even if they are conspiring against the mind, there is little we can accuse them of and we have a LOT to lose by ticking them off.
Rolled 70>>27295478Dude, this short is endgame importance. And we know for sure that Marcus and the prophet won't leave because they arememor
Rolled 84>>27295435Richard here [REDACTED] is as I stated before and EDE didn't to is because of security reasons and countermeasures. Granted EDE did quite the number on them but was unable to finish it all off in the end.Reason for all defenses focused inwards is due to biotech research facility specialized in inhumane biotech developmental research. Sometimes things happen things must be maintained, purged, or even have the facility itself completely destroyed for.>>27295441I am afraid Markus is no longer with us user or his mobile base for that matter. In fact Richard said he had Hivemind mutatation removed from him before leaving. His reasoning being that staying with the memor is no longer worthwhile. It is worth noting he also visited with the broodmother about mutations first. Hero unit Lost Markus the Weapons Fanatic.Broodmother meanwhile states that she knows very little about outside the lab considering how long she was stranded down there.
Rolled 37>>27295478Well if we don't, we're fucked too. I'd rather triage off our heroes that face CERTAIN doom by continuing as is.FUCK DAMMIT WHY DID WE LET THE BROODMOTHER BUILD SO MANY FLESHBEASTS FUCK!!!!Question her last, our best hope if she's what we need to deal with is to try and take over her mind using all of the Memor and the Prophet at once.
Rolled 90>>27295521Current flesh beast number is 2000 user.
Rolled 89>>27295515I'm just gonna stop posting now and hope this is over tomorrow Do what you must tg
>>27295502Marcus and the Prophet are given liberty from the hivemind and extra privacy rights. They can vanish and drop of the mind to do whatever they like.They literally are the only Memor, beyond broodmother, without the 100% hivemind loyalty garauntee.
Rolled 34>>27295515EDE, can you access records of past usage of the defense systems and give us the salient points? If there was more than one usage, highlight any abnormalities/differences between them.Also, try and access theoretical modeling of defense system effectiveness against various threats. Specific vectors it was designed to be particularly effective against (so nothing as general as "bio-organics) would be nice to know. Also, any simulations the defense system has been put through. Thank you.
Rolled 50>>27295515Jesus, things are falling apart at the seems.So how are them spiderborgs doing? Any word from the Tectus scouts?
Rolled 67>>27295540Fucking dammit. EDE, do you still have the facility's defense robots under your control?
Rolled 20>>27295515EDE, can you summarize Richard's "statement before?" Memory could use a bit of a jog.
Rolled 60>>27295567>>27295567I am afraid I cannot provide that information user thanks to [REDACTED].>>27295587Well what remains of them yes though I can promise you this they wont win. >>27295592Richard stated that due to unfortunate amount of human paranoia many safeguards, countermeasures, and security purposes were done to limit I and the information available about this facility among many other things.
Rolled 76>>27295618Is it possible to talk to Richard psychically? Nevermind, the hivemind's infected.Where are Richard's borg forces?
Rolled 9>>27295655In the labs thanks to his paranoia about the broodmother he has them keep watch. Just in case.
Rolled 76>>27295666Where is the Prophet of Fate?
Damnit, the broodmother is the last enemy I want. Not just because of flesbeasts, they've been a wholly useful force, but because she's the damn reason we've been able to keep our population growing.Without a broodmother our fertility raters are gonna go down the shitter again.
Rolled 63>>27295677Keeping operating the Overmind in his office.
Rolled 99>>27295682Why do you think the Broodmother is the enemy user?
>>27295689I never said I knew she was the enemy or thought she was. But she's the last enemy I want to find out is.
Rolled 60>>27295666Also, are there any measures that would prevent the release of a virulent plague in the lower levels of the lab from running its full course? And are you capable of disabling those measures and sealing off the lower labs?I remember that we couldn't flood the lower labs with gas, but are there continually active biological purgers in the hallways? Specifically in sections of the lab where the brood mother has her growths?
Rolled 81>>27295582Hasn't it been three turns? Where are the Tectus?
Rolled 86>>27295704Affirmative otherwise Richard would of used them long loong ago.>>27295705They have indeed returned. Apparently the ghouls are pinned down between a monster surge and zombie horde. So their just a WEE bit busy right now.
Rolled 30>>27295696Hey, there's someone other than me here! Yay, I thought I was alone. So look. It's the broodmother, or something similar/related. >The broodmother is below us>The broodmother consumed a memor when we first encountered it, giving it psionics>Something is poisoning the hivemind, particularly the Prophet of Fate>When we were under attack by the bandit horde, we secreted the Prophet with the broodmother>The broodmother is a sufficiently large and powerful entity to influence the hivemind by itself
Rolled 36>>27295715Well, at least we've met with their leaders I presume and they are on speaking terms with us.
Rolled 77>>27295731But she's such a vital component to us.To fight her is almost literally like ripping out your own loins.Let's just not start pointing fingers here.Have you ever thought, maybe WE are the poison?
Rolled 56Let's deal with the situation underfoot/try to find out what it is before we worry about the outside world.The high-tech bandits will need at least a few turns to mobilize/deploy/recover. If we can present them an offer of peace that they'll accept, meaning we've freed ourselves from the evil, it'll avoid a costly war that we may not even be able to win.
Rolled 45>>27295754"We."I thought that, but I don't see how. The individual Memor, the overmind itself? Who is "we"?
Rolled 24>>27295761We're going to leave the bandits alone, and from what they've said their likely going to be busy fixing themselves. We tried peace, they wouldn't take it.What we can hope is, now that the Tectus have returned, and once Richards self replicating spiderdrones come to fruition we might be in a position to start an offensive into the lower depths of the tunnels.
Rolled 8In any case i am gonna call it a night since discussion is the only thing going on. In any case I will still stick around for a little while to at least answer questions.
Rolled 57>>27295754Oh. Hey. The high-tech bandits know about the brood mother in the middle of the swamp somehow, but not about ours. (Is that confirmed, EDE?)Why is there a broodmother in the middle of our swamp, and one in the basement of our facility. Is it possible that they're different parts of one entity?
Rolled 62>>27295769The Memor itself. Maybe we're letting our collective emotions and paranoia get the better of us?Just a harmless and nonserious conjecture
Rolled 88>>27295785That may very well be part of it to a degree. Don't really know user as I have no access to the Hivemind being an Artificial Intelligence and all.>>27295783Unknown.Possible you could always ask. You never really did bother asking heroes things. Bit of a bad habit as you may never know what things they know about. Some of which might prove to be quite vital and they may not even realize it.
Rolled 30>>27295780We can do action if you like.Military: 100 Tectus check out the tunnel network as thoroughly as possible. Have the Prophet of Fate psychically shield them as much as possible. Basic Action/ Production Action: Richard gets to use as many resources as we have upgrading his lab to his liking, and he gets to research spiderbots more. Upgrading takes precedence if only one can be done.
Rolled 26>>272957801.) Are things going to get really really bad for us?2.) What was the result of the Tectus-Ghoul leader meeting? Any sucessful negotations?Also I think a consensus is reachable right now>Military moveTectus see if they can scout the lower tunnels again>Basic actionRichard continue working on those spiders>ProductionI don't know. What do you think guys?
Rolled 62>>27295804Can it be with this roll though?
Rolled 44>>27295801>Don't really know user as I have no access to the Hivemind being an Artificial Intelligence and all.Would you like to join? I'm sure our scientist can figure out a way. . .Ha ha ha ha
>>27295804>>27295808These actionsFor production I recommend manufacturing lab tools for Richard if such can be done.>>27295815this roll
Rolled 46>>272958081 things have never really been good per say its just that now somethings have been pointed out. They had always been there you just never realized it despite the hints.2 meeting didn't result in much as the ghouls hand their hands full. Not to mention you really didn't give much of an directive for it.
Rolled 52>>27295801Ask the Broodmother if she's familiar with any networked organics in the vicinity of the base please, also ask her about her meeting with Marcus shortly before his departure EDE. Ask Richard what the nature of the experiment that created the broodmother was, if he knows. Also, ask him about his knowledge of any other facilities in the swamp. Was this one part of a larger network?Ask Alexis if she saw any sign of broad, interconnected purpose in movements of anything when she scouted our entire swamp. Also any odd things about the monsters she encountered in the Inner Marsh.
>>27295829Damnit, what a waste of 3 turns. And they were out of range of the hivemind so we couldn't multitask too.I suppose at a later time we can offer aid when we straighten out ourselves and strengthen relations.
Rolled 22>>27295829By the way, I like your in-character/not-character interplay. I like the idea the EDE is trying to (as an AI) get around the programming blocks by dropping subtle hints to us.Too bad I came into this quest at the third thread or so, I probably missed all the crucial hints due to lack of knowledge of previous ones.
Rolled 86>>27295829thread tommorow?
Rolled 42>>27295890I'm hoping he's writing the answers to these>>27295842
Rolled 92>>27295842Clora'Zel here I am familiar with nothing of that sort in the vicinity anyway. Well correction there is the strange monsters that gather in hordes as well as underground. My collectors bring me samples all I have to say. As for Markus he asked about mutagens, mutations and fertility things before his departure. I did ask why he left he stated that we were no longer good for him to be around. Richard here broodmother wasn't created here rather a tiny sample sorta got lose. Somehow it got passed all the security measures and it mutated. Never seen anything like it before. As for how they were created or if they even were. No idea I just no their a splicers and forced evolutionary dream come true. Other facilities there were tons...at least before it all became swamp anyway. No idea about it now. As for part of a larger network. Certainly discoveries had to be quickly shared after all. You never know how good a breakthrough is until its shared. Alexis here some monsters do as well as the ghouls with at least 2 brain cells to rub together. As for odd things don't know didn't see much other then how insanely nasty they were.>>27295858Go through the archives links are all there for it all if you look.>>27295890Negative. maybe Thursday though if your lucky.
Rolled 37>>27295927Could you ask Clora'Zel about the monsters that gather underground? (Is she referring to ghouls?)
Rolled 40>>27295949Several types some seem like zombies others closer to Richard's vile experiments. There are even some like my fleshbeasts...but much much more advanced. No idea what to consider them. Their sorta like the monsters really...but seem to be created with clear purpose so speak.
>>27295927>>27295959We lost Marcus and Mox. We still have his designs though right? Factories, tanks, weapons.Even is superproject bigger than the mobile fortress?
>>27295970*his superproject, the mobile fortress?
Rolled 18>>27295970His super project he took with him everything else we kept.
Rolled 84>>27295970I hope the day we discover Marcus' new creations we're not staring down the wrong side of their barrels.
Rolled 16>>27295959And her collectors have brought her samples of these advanced fleshbeasts? Are her collectors able to move through the ground in ways our Tectus and etc. can't?
Rolled 70>>27296019Collectors are potent but not that potent. At least yet anyway. Not to mention their quite hard to find these advanced fleshbeasts so to speak. As for how mobile they are its still a work in progress. Broodmother has been so very busy in that regard.
Rolled 92>>27296037So very busy? We've noted the marked increase in her forces (and the fact that Marcus, one of our allies, has left). Can we ask why she's been doing that?Also, I'm looking at the previous threads now. I'll crack your riddle.
Rolled 47>>27296057Working on developing new fleshbeasts and breaking down samples for usability. As for why..."We are surrounded by hostiles everywhere and our forces are quite pathetic." In any case gonna go to bed now. Also dear anon have fun cracking that riddle. Free heads up there is plenty of them. Some of them quite important, others offer a bonus or something interesting and so on. FUN.