>>27206202Let it be so.
So it's generally agreed that Sail Power and Solar Power are the main sources for ships, with generators powered by alcohol and similar substances are emergency fall backs right?What type of ships do you think Kemos would use?
>>27206919Kav's alpha has lots of ships and vehicles in it. Pricing isn't balanced, though. Fusion-powered cruise ship? Best I can do is 4 jetskis.
>>27206919>alcohol and similar substancesWait, alcohol distilled from what?
>>27207147Kelp primarily. They sell Kelp wine (google it) so with a little freshwater it's probably a good base for many different kinds of liqour.Also most plants will ferment and produce methane and alcohol, both substances that can be bottled and used for fuel with the proper equipment.>>27207138I'll give Kav his raydudes but his Electrolotl's irk me and his lack of mounts and pack animals also dissapoints me.
>>27206011What is going on in this picture?Why are they all cat people?How are plants growing on that structure?There isn't nearly enough room there to have a proper burger joint, how does that one work?How is that vending machine even powered>Who collects that trash?
>>27207383CATastrophe.Because of perverted scientists, there are also dog people and bunny people.Postapocalyptic mutation brought on by alien comets.Solar Panels and or Wind Turbines, the power presumably supplied off site via an underwater cable.Presumably the same way the cooking equipment is powered.Presumably someone who charges a fee for trash collection.
>>27208169It's a setting about catgirls and similar animal people on a postapocalyptic flooded earth diving for treasure and having beach parties.>Not even looking at >>27207138>Though admittedly Kav's Alpha is terribly formatted and has none of the canon locations and its gameplay is too crunchy.
>>27207648Why is that so awesome?
>>27206919>What type of ships do you think Kemos would use?Excuse the awful pun but I can see big Catamarans be popular fairly popular in all kinds of sizes.>>27207278>Electrolotl's irk me Which part?> and his lack of mounts and pack animals also disappoints me.> cutting out mountsBUT BIG TURTLES!!
>>27213103Because they're pink, blind, and have electro powers as an attack. When they should be multicolored like raydudes. come in as many sizes and variations as dogs and only have the ability to sense electricity.Also, mountable breed. http://i.imgur.com/qPNCC93.jpgOh and. BIGGRUMPYTURTLES.http://i.imgur.com/1CbOvts.png
>>27213649> posting image links on an imageboardI'll never get used to that.
Oh cool, CATastrophe thread.>>27207138Yeah, a lot of things are unbalanced. It is an Alpha (more like proof of concept) rule set, which is plain to see by how godawful it is. The beta document wont be as nearly rushed, will have a great deal of formatting (hyperlinks and an actual table of contents, ho!) and a number of balance issues addressed. Oh, and artwork. Can't forget that. >>27207278>but his Electrolotl's irk me and his lack of mounts and pack animals also dissapoints me.Ah, as a one-man-band (Two now), it's a bit hard to get everything that I'd want in. I am disappointed in the number of animals as well looking back on it. I poled /tg/ asking what they thought she be added in a thread a while back when I got to the meat of the bestiary, and many things were made off of simple descriptions. I made a community critter repository google drive doc for people to link animals, robots and the like they would like to see, but so far no luck. Here's the link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wyhWpbJlPnwHzXaCbIW2cMJ7gzkb4mFvaEY1fQTw_tI/edit I have actual riding and animal husbandry rules in the beta document, and if you'd like I can post a description of it>>27208935It was babbys first RPG, what can I say. I have been attempting to lessen the crunch, but so far changes remain untested outside of dev tests. If you would be willing, please by all means tell me what you think is crunchy and could be made less so. The canon locations will be added, as well as a slew of other DM tools like a percentile roll settlement generator and such. >>27213649Oh heck yes. Gigantor Electrolotls seem so right. Noted!
Airships. How accessible are they?
>>27214063Oh, can't forget this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oJsFIff1oUYKzvbuRzw5vvqhG_bSsLQnq3XMCANrfvw/editA list of things being currently worked on/things that will be worked on: Complete rework of diving. It'll be replaced with an entirely different rule set, in hopes that it's not such a clusterfuck. Gear will be completely reworked; more so the tabling and layout, the vehicle's section and weapon section especially. Vehicle customization, ship combat are both in the works, and I hope that it'll be enjoyable for even those who are not specialized for combat. Settlement generation is nearly done. Once I get to it, combat will be thoroughly licked clean to make it easier to deal with. Character creation got a bit of an overhaul due to balance reasons, but I'm still trying to find a way to lessen the crunch for secondary characteristics. The skill system got a few changes, namely skill points now act as luck/fate/edge points and can be spent but not burnt; I'll explain further if anyone likes. The beta will be overall revamped, with many of the sections completely rewritten or reorganized, the alpha sections/chapter set up as you all know it is going to be metaphorically butchered and reassembled in due time. Hopefully if I can ever get someone willing to, short stories before sections will be a thing.
>>27214318Flight-capable vehicles are planned, but I don't think it will be in the next release, sadly. There is a blimp vehicle if I recall in the vehicle list however, and there is a unique modification in vehicle customization for making vessels and other crafts lighter than air.
>>27206011I wonder what that girl is reading... Maybe it's Ass Goblins of Auschwitz?
>>27207138>His name is Robert Pawlsonholy shit i didn't expect a fight club reference.
>>27207138you'd expect the exposition to be at the start
>>27214063You need a table of contents, never ever make a game book without a table of contents.
>>27216135Well... I just now learned of this. Is it wrong that I already love it? As much as I enjoy grimdark settings, these pictures and the concept itself is just leaving me fucking giddy. Grimdark and whimsical settings just fulfill two different parts of me i suppose
>>27216178CATastrophe was made to be a BREAK from Grimdark settings. It's a game about Diving for treasure, hanging out with your friends, throwing parties in your favorite blue apocalypse settings, and maybe getting a little romance with your favored Kemonomimi girl.You like it because it hits all the buttons that 40K doesn't, it's a balanced part of every fa/tg/uy's PnP alotment.
>>27216236Well. That certainly makes sense to me. Ill definitely have to think about joining in one of the games on mythweavers. How long has this been in development and any idea of how long till it will be in beta?
>>27216300it's been in development for years now and tere are 2 systems in question. Kav's system, which has an Alpha and TAIL which doesn't. you can always turn to FATE or savage words if you prefer less glitchy systems since those are fairly universal. make sure to hit the 1d4chan articles and checkout the sup/tg/ threads for lore not present in Kav's alpha or the 1d4chan article.
Speaking of which, I will be making a stab at this by tossing out there a CATastrophe homebrew for the FATE system. Should be a riot.My plan is to have something definite to share October 1.
>>27216377I'm kinda trying to release less buggy and already plastered version, but it's getting Starboundy.My main problem at the moment is layout. Rules section is a a clusterfuck of legendary proportions.
Oh no you won't fall off the page.
I've never actually looked into one of these threads before. Neat stuff.You know what it reminds me of? This.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C4kM76MUsEIgnore the shitty, deviantart-tier animu face.Please. It's the one glaring flaw in an otherwise beautiful video.What hack did they hire to do the character art/animation for this I mean seriously.
>>27216236Seems to me it can be modified to allow some things that may be slightly darker in tone. I've liked the suggestions in previous posts that the tone of the setting be left somewhat to the DM's discretion -- you can go light and happy like Aria, or get a little more intense for dem Miyazaki feels.Ideally, of course, you shouldn't WANT to go full grimdark with this setting, because (as previously stated) that's what it's intended to avoid.Captcha wants me to>cast dedapabfor some reason.
>>27219446if you include lethality you'll get a real GTA feel
>>27206812Hey, that's a new picture. And it looks so goddamn cozy, too.>you will never live in a giant treehouse and then ride the top of the Waterbus on your way to Akadmee
I'm just waiting for the day the Nipponese steal this from us and make it into a series.
>>27219553post apocalypse and catgirls is so original after all, of course they would steal it
bump for interest
>>27207383>Who collects that trash?There is a sign for a waterbus, you know. BoS Burger is basically a bus stop eatery. And the inspiration for CATastrophe.
>>27213649BEEG GRUMPY TURTLES!
>>27220857> collecting earless picturesCome on Nyko, this obsession of yours is creeping me out!
>>27221005And one more.
>>27221018What if they're photographs of kemomis with their ears shooped out? Like this shooped picture of a kemomi waiting for the pingubus.
>>27221090> backpadelling this hardJust admit to your earless fetish already.
>>27221168>> backpadelling this hardActually, I was expanding on the idea. Shooping ears off of pictures of actual kemomis is infinitely more creepy than just collecting pictures of the before times. Could make for a fun npc, though.
The main thing I want out of CATastrophe is the ability to become an ace seagull or pelican pilot.Also, ride-able giant seagulls and pelicans.
So who would be the antagonists in games in this setting?
>>27221274>So who would be the antagonists in games in this setting?Discoslugs and electrolots, mostly.>>27221248...fucking eartaku I swear.
So anyone got a link or something where I can get all the CATastrophe pics from? They seem to be from the same artist.
>>27221274Its more of combating the environment and having a grand old time over saving the world. Some actual enemy ideas have been pitched before, like pirates who would rather steal than dive, Oldguards who still carry out their old programming despite how different the world is, and degraded insane AIs. And neonhoggr, the giant, flamboyantly colored sea cucumber kaiju who eats cities. Really, its whatever you want it to be.>>27221305>Discoslugs and electrolots>electrolotls>electrolotls are the enemyTHIS ELECTROLOTL IS YOUR FRIEND. HE SENSES FOR SHINIES!You're thinking of kleptomanders. Even discoslugs are mostly just used as party lights, save for the corrosive variants like Neonhoggr.
>>27221377She looks like she really knows what she's doing, yup.And yea, you're right. I've brought shame upon family.
Scenario: the oceans start drying up
>>27221532And the party must go on an arctic expedition to melt the ice caps.
>>27221532Catgirls in space.
>>27221377BTW... was someone going to do that fun little spin-off of this called "Neon Genesis Neonhoggr" where the Kemomi are piloting earless tech giant robots to fight the post-flood Kaiju?
>>27216300By my calculations, it'll be a year since genesis sometime next month. Beta should be nearing completion hopefully in the spring time; December break from college courses will allow me to expedite things, hopefully. >>27218963Ah, I recommend having others read it extensively/let them submit edits to you. Sometimes when looking at something you've wrote, it's hard to spot what's confusing and such. >>27221270Sugoi.. Noted.>>27221274>So who would be the antagonists in games in this setting?Pretty much what >>27221377 stated, wild creatures, other Kemomimis and old robots, as well as some of the more crazy things your DM cooks up.
>>27222688Oh lawd. I can see how that'd be awesome on so many levels.
>"You pursue he terrible beauties of fear and hope. Your friends cannot help you.">On a turn sign.Surrealist? More like..."Purrealist"
We still doing the "Dogs Lawful, Cats chaotic random" thing?
>>27222755Any excuse to pull this pic out. And the thing is after you defeat the Kaiju you get a snazzy dive suit in the process!
>>27222935Rabbits are Lawful Swag. Everyone wants to hear the words of the rabbit bards!
>>27221377I recognise that bunny...
Actually I'm hoping we can stay from "racial stereotypes" for the 5 races. In fact I'd like to see no statistical difference between races at all
>>27223049> 5> FIVEWhat the hell?
>>27222935We never really did that. I think at most folks said dogs would trend towards SLIGHTLY more orderly and active lives than cats. Its not like one group is lazy anarchists and the other is hyperactive fascists, dogs just like to tidy up a bit more. And build blanket forts.
>>27223049There are optional rules to forgo the racial bonuses (Or switch them around as you please/player choice) you just need to discuss it with the DM. >>27223182Yeah, 5. Cats, Dogs, Bunnies, Bears and Foxes. It's possible if the DM wishes to completely ignore some or all races, or add in others. There was talk of mice being involved, a while ago, but I stuck with the foxes/bears on top of the main three as they seemed most liked.
>>27223444>Bears and Foxes.
>>27223526Can't please everyone.. There are optional rules to disallow them in play however, so you are free to rid them of your game if that's what you want ferret-tan.On top of that, there are rules for playing sans eared folk in general, or with more lethal combat, etc. people made their wants clear and I tried to give them the ability to use the system as they saw fit without extensive homebrewing.
>>27223889Nah, its fine, I'm just fucking around with you. I personally think all that nonsense surrounding the whole bear/fox inclusion was dumb as fuck, but its pretty cool for you to humor those guys all the same.You're alright, Kav.
>>27224103Haha, well it's easier to attract cats with catnip, they say. I'd rather have the system be open to more than just the regular player base. The more the merrier. If anyone has already played in a game, I'd love to hear stories of misadventures on the endless blue. I'm aware of a few games, running and I've received feedback from them (notably a few mythweavers champagnes) on some rules, etc they found grating, but nothing in the ways of logs. On a side note, I love all the art that people have drawn in regards to CATastrophe! They're really good.
#CATastrophy on irc.rizon.nethttp://chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23CATastrophe&server=irc.rizon.net
>>27223959you can easily think up your own subspeciesall you need to do is select a main preferred, preferred, and ill favored stat
>>27223959If you play FATE or Savage Worlds or, I dunno, freakin' GURPS its fairly easy to set up whatever species or sub species you feel like playing as. CATastrophe has room for lots of Kemos.That said I think sticking to the core 3 is important.>>27219070Nifty, the Cel Shading animation is actually pretty good until you bring the faces into it. (And even then only a few main offenders stand out.)Overall cool, thanks for sharing bro.
>>27219070Well damn anon. Going to have to agree with you. Gives me the same giddy goosebumps the idea of CATastrophe does.
>>27230529Even the music kind of fits. Not the lyrics, necessarily, but it has the right kind of atmosphere.
>>27231231yeah my thoughts exactly. Its a very uplifting atmosphere.
>>27206011I don't know if anyone's mentioned but that's one big fat fuckin' j he's smoking.
>>27223526Theres a Fox in OPs pic, the primary inspiration for this. I think we can let them slide.Fuck bears though
>>27231722I don't know why, but that picture makes me laugh and d'awww at the same time."You guys wanna climb up on my stand while I'm trying to mix, this is what you get!"
>>27231722>>27231515Hemp has a variety of uses that would make it integral to a world like CATastrophe. For starts it makes great rope and cloth, both neccessary for ships. It has many different medicinal uses and it grows fucking EVERYWHERE.So it would surprise me if Kemonomimi were getting stoned on a little pot here and there.>>27232347I always viewed foxes and Inumimi with airs anyway....that would make a great character viewpoint.
>>27231722>catnip>not even onceThe way the DJ is human makes me think this picture belongs to the Eartaku photoshop expert we were discussing earlier
>>27232420>*Foxes as Inumimi with Airs...
>>27232369It reminds me of my friends cat and the way he would sit on the computer mouse whenever you let go of it so that you had to pet him. >see DJ scratching some discs>lay of discs so that she must scratch belly insteadNekomimi logic.
So is it possible to play dudes in this setting or is it all girls?I like playing both genders because I'm just a faggot like that[/spoilers] and I wanna play a trap dammit.
>>27232583Jeeeesus how did I fuck up the spoiler tags like that?But seriously, this game looks interesting as fuck, I should run it by my local RPG players.
>>27232606>>27232583Original thread guys wanted 10:1 female to male ratio.We knocked it down to 3:1 and 5:1 in male deprived areas with a few areas have gender levels at a rough equal.In general you'll see more chicks than guys.You can however play a male character and we have a group of macho monster hunter guys who tend to be x-box hueg and sail around in battleships performing feats of derring do.Also, a Trap Character would be appropiate since some males might try and emulate female heroes by looking all girly.
>>27232583>>27232891>>27232891You are free to do whatever you please, as long as your DM/group is fine with it.
>>27233151If you were my DM and I played a trap character would you do side ERP sessions with me?
>>27232501It could be an old guard earless imposter, as well.
>>27232606>the game looks interesting as fuck>so let ruin it for everyone by trying to insert my trap fetish!>>27232891>Original thread guys wanted 10:1 female to male ratio.For the last time, that was by and large a joke.
>>27233293>Original thread guys wanted 10:1 female to male ratio.>For the last time, that was by and large a joke.This. Right here. There shouldn't be any hard-set ratio for genders. It's pants-on-head special.
>>27233167Haha, I don't believe so. I don't think I'd ERP with anyone I don't consider special to me on a personal level.
What about a breed of fish that can only survive in 50° Celsius water?
>>27233811Vulcanfish. A fish that lives near volcanic vents near volcanic islands. It feeds from the minerals and sulfur to survive and can't go very far without becoming lethargic. They taste horrible, but their unique body chemistry causes them to have a visible, fire-like glow at night.
>>27233293>All this butthurtTraps make everything better, QED
Is there something like Edge in planning to give bonuses to crazy but awesome stunts and the like?>>27233811>>27233884...don't remind me, my pet volcano fish died last week because Lyra unplugged the heating module for her fucking DJ set. He froze to death pitifully."It's just a fish" my ass.>>27232891That was killed, but AFAIR there's still tables to roll for gender ratio. Having it built in simply isn't an option though.
>>27233928>"It's just a fish" my ass.Stop rooming with druggies dawg.
so can someone tl;dr what's here so far? I looked at that pdf and jesus fuck, it's horrible to read for extended periods of time.
>>27233928>yfw she purrposely killed it in order to make Volcano Fish Soup
>>27233928Yes, there in fact is! Skill points have been changed to have rerolling/large bonus applications. Having one now grants a flat +1 to rolls with the skill, until all points have been spent, which then incurs a -2 until it is regenerated. Defaulting has been raised in penalty for balance reasons. You can get a max 2 skill points for a flat +2 to the skill as well as the further ability to spend 2 at once for instant success on certain checks. And yes, there is a gender ratio table in the settlement generation that's nearing completion. >>27233999TL;DR: The system is a d20 roll under, with your target numbers equating out from a primary attribute plus half (rounded up) attribute, with modifiers added/subtracted. There are 5 attributes, Power, Agility Willpower, Savviness and Luck. Luck doesn't necessarily have many skill roll associations, as it acts as an "HP" stat for PCs. Instead of taking damage you "Luck" out of actually being hit with the full force of the blow. Once you run out however, you take injuries to specific attributes, which incur negative modifiers to all rolls associated with that modifier. Once you reach an amount of injuries based off of a figure derived from your willpower, you pass out. >>27234100As long as you get to enjoy it too, it should be alright though, right?
>>27234500>As long as you get to enjoy it too, it should be alright though, right?You're a heartless bastard.
>>27206011>>27206812Well now, this is the most intriguing shit I've seen this week. What exactly has happened, here?
>>27234551Hey, a fish is a fish, and fish makes a good dish.>>27234590http://1d4chan.org/wiki/CATastropheThis should give you a bit of a primer. I noticed that someone's done some editing of the page, namely removing things..
>>27221314Seconding this. Or anything in a similar style. The blue apocalypse concept has been a thin I had ever since I watched Blue Submarine No. 6.
>>27234687>>27221314Reverse image search is built into the site.Polite sage for meta.
>>27234626All rightey then. Actually reading the thread helped (I promise to do that before asking next time) but I appreciate the link. Thanks, anon.
So, one thing to consider... What are the safety options for characters in the blue? I mean ships sink, people fall overboard, etc...What would the tech gifted settlements have and what would the less blessed settlements have?
>>27234822I think it's generally assumed that if you don't starve while in the middle of bumfuck you'll be generally fine.
>>27234847Was thinking more if you end up in the water for some reason.
Apropos of pretty much nothing: Working on a piece of music inspired by CATastrophe. This is only a rough draft, but I kind of like the way it sounds already.https://soundcloud.com/arizona-music/catastrophe-in-blue-rough
>>27235614This sounds like it could be made into a video game.
>>27235614Oh god, its beautiful. Jaunty, yet relaxed. Electronic, yet tropical.
>>27234768No problem! >>27234822>>27234847>>27234936There are water related safety devices in survival gear and diving gear section - for instance, emergency surfacing devices: They automatically deploy whilst underwater, insuring that the user will be brought to the surface if there is access. There's also life vests, etc, usually salvaged or made with reclaimed materials. >>27235614>https://soundcloud.com/arizona-music/catastrophe-in-blue-roughOh my gosh yes. This is awesome!
>>27235614>>27235732I am now picturing this as an amazing video game. I always did enjoy Windwaker's sailing...
>>27235699>>27235704>>27235732Well, that's decided, then. I'm not changing it if people are ALREADY telling me they like it how it is.
>>27235732>There are water related safety devices in survival gear and diving gear section - for instance, emergency surfacing devices: They automatically deploy whilst underwater, insuring that the user will be brought to the surface if there is access. There's also life vests, etc, usually salvaged or made with reclaimed materials. So, one Kemomi might have a "purrloined" sealed inflatable life vest she salvaged off of a plane, another might have a almost brand new emergency surfacing device built into her suit, and another might just have a new steel drum and a whole lot of bravery.I'd wager this would be based on the tech levels of communities too, and how they interact with one-another.>>27235757Hey... you knocked a grand slam on your first at-bat, buddy! That's how it's done!
>>27235757Make another 'improved' version, if you like and give us the two in a blind test. If they are different enough make them to separate songs. Either way, just keep doing what your doing, cus damn its good.
>>27235614>I kind of like the way it sounds already.That makes me the fourth.I grew hawaii shorts and a wicked sunburn while listening to this and for some reason the floor is now seawater so... mission success.>>27234100>>27234626> mfw Don't let your room mates "cook something special" for you without asking. Not when they're cats. Not that I'm racist but those people never THINK.He cost me over-- hey, what is the currency anyways? Or is it still just trading things? Maybe "charges", i.e coupons you can trade for energy would work?>>27234500Fucking radical.
>>27235789Or mix the two to make some sort of musical Voltron that will whisk us to the endless blue!
>>27235810Depends on the settlement, but somehow in the end it always translates to Fangs. Fangs is the universal currency, just because of how it's value matches up with the currencies various settlements use. It... just happens. It all works out too.Personally I blame the Earless for setting this all up, but I think my tinfoil hat might have a few holes in it...
>>27235810Energy works because everyone needs it, it doesn't spoil and outside of somebody rediscovering cold fusion it is always limited.
>>27235749 Me again and oh god.... I just was whisked away to the future where this is a full VR game and it has music like >>27235614 playing in the background.
>>27235841>Personally I blame the Earless for setting this all up, but I think my tinfoil hat might have a few holes in it...Earless satellites, bro, I'm fucking telling you. They're up there. Watching. Waiting. Observing our every move.
>>27235810The currency that is generally accepted is a Fang, an almost translucent bright blue canine tooth-shaped shiny that is found all over the place in the water. It is a by product of the alien mosses from the initial comet impact's digestion of pollutants and salts, or so I've fluffed it. Of course, as >>27235841 says, not all settlements use it. Whatever is in demand could easily be the currency of the day, (Food, Electricity, 'Nip) or simple barter systems. >>27235871You dare question friend old guard?
>>27235871See... that's what I'm talking about, man... There was this one type of weird oldguard I saw. All they do is float with these weird things on the top of the swim ring looking rig. I think some Fox friend of mine called it a "Kammra". I dunno about you... but I don't think the Earless are in space...
>>27235919>Your next CATastrophe game is about Kemomimi trying to uncover the Earless conspiracy
It makes me happy I started all this. I wasn't the first person to have posted that picture, but I was the first to get an entire thread dedicated to explaining it, which led to CATastrophe.
>>27235955Im happy about this too OP. Very happy to learn about this.
>>27235919>>27235940>earless>existing>not boogeymen to scare the littluns in behaving properly
>>27236453The truth is stranger than fiction, and far more tragic than you think. It's the story of the fall of a civilization and the end of a species.The Earless are a warning to us. Not to do as they did.
>>27236484Nice... there is more meat to the track now."Now there is a little place I know. 20 clicks from Diver's Bay and about 50 feet down. The water is so clear that if you sit down there, with only the sound of your respirator with you... you'll feel like you're in a whole 'nother place.The fish are beautiful there with odd gold and red and blue and green stripes on them, their scales playing tricks of light in the water...The biggest thing though, is the glass dome you'd be sitting on. I've not figured out a way to get at what is under it, but I have seen playing through the bits of the roof exposed to the light above and said light shining on what's below... but there are shinies in there... but they look very sensitive to salt water.Care to do some explorin' with me?"
>>27236469> It was supposed to be a documentary... NOT A MANUAL
>>27236469but the earless were destroyed by a meteorkemo's use all the same stuff as humans just with less globalisation
>>27232420> Hemp> Sunny brightness of the far future> Not splicing it with catnip> Not fermenting it into beer> Not implying that catnip is better to smoke anyway.
>>27232546My friend's dog has picked up that habit. Shoves his nose into your mouse hand so you're basically forced to pet him.But he's nice and nudges the mouse back onto the mat when it slips off.Still pissed that he rearranged my bookmarks folder.
>>27232583A trap would make some sort of sense. The general attitude is for males to 'get back in the workshop and fix my boat', so dressing/posing as a girl would get past that.
>>27237100Then feel free to play one, why do you keep pushing this?
>>27237100Then friend, whatever you do at your table, it's what you do.
>>27237129I'm not the one pushing it. Just commenting on the one who was.*shrug*>>27235888I see barter being the general way of doing things. Fangs would be accepted, but people would still prefer divers to bring back something useful, instead of just inflation.
>>27237100>The general attitude is for males to 'get back in the workshop and fix my boat'Not very much.
>>27236453>implying the earless don't have a conclave somewhereThey just want us to think they're gone
In case this hasn't been posted in any previous threads, here's a link to the original images that inspired the game:http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=獣耳妄想世界The tag's name translates to "delusionary world of kemomimi."
>>27237320>"delusionary world of kemomimi."How fitting. Let's send the artist a translated version of the RPG once we're done.
>>27237223originally it wasbut then we got rid of the fetishy stuff and focused on the beach party stuff
>>27237502Nope. It wasn't. There was never a fetish thing in CATastrophe.
>>27237573Well, I imagine the mild gender-role-reversal thing is still there (at least in SOME aspects of the setting), but it's not going to be FOCUSED on it the way it would be if we were playing to somebody's fetish.
>>27237730What? What are you smoking?
>>27237730>the way it would be if we were playing to somebody's fetish.> if we were playing to somebody's fetish.> playing to somebody's fetish> if
Back again with another revision, but in a different format this time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlE0SNRS_H0
>>27237821I can smell the ocean breeze now.
>>27237803>>27237754>>27237730>>27237573>>27237502GuiseYou GuiseSrsly You GuiseStahp ItCATastrophe has fetishes built right into it. These fetishes however are pretty fucking mild all told and nothing to be afraid of. Just look at those covers Frank Frazzeta did. He had barbarian chicks and mild BDSM themes we have Kemonomimi, Tans, and Bikinis.If a Player wants to come from a household where his parents disapprove of males hunting for treasure instead of tending the shop that's a valid character background, so is coping with female nagging and mothering by dressing up like a girl, as long as no one in your group is skeeved out by it who cares?There's room for many different kinds of CATastrophe.
>>27237998>There's room for many different kinds of CATastrophe.This is true.Just the following are set in stone: FUCK pirates.Run when the Neonhoggr approaches.Never, ever attempt to reason with an Oldguard.>>27237821Getting better and better.Feel like doing something more action-y that evokes the feeling of a tail-to-tail race against the neighboring settlement?>>27237083>>27232420Aye, needs more drugs and general foods. ...and yea, that can be read in a wrong way, but you get what I mean.>>27235888>>27235841Ah yes, Fangs. Pretty money is pretty.>>27237157>bring back something useful, instead of just inflation.Maybe Fangs can be used as a reagent for something?
>>27238069>Maybe Fangs can be used as a reagent for something?Well in alot of places, Fangs are crystals, perhaps these crystals are part of a 3D Printing process in high-tech settlements, or perhaps some sort of reaction in other settlements that is important enough to be measured as currency.
>>27238069If they glow, then you can stick them in a jar and use them for lights.Maybe grind them up for use in a healing potion of some sort?
>>27238069>>27238090>>27238086Personally I dislike Fangs. Feels too convienant to me. I think each settlement should have their own form of currency and preffered trade goods like a certain kind of fish, electricity, or "Funweed" (The Aforementioned Hemp/Catnip Hybrid)Some settlements might use bottlecaps or wooden tokens as money, others might rate Rivets, washers, nuts, and bolts at a certain value.But hey, that's just me. If you like fangs keep 'em.
>>27238125> FunweedMaybe dried and cut with varying amounts of dried kelp, then formed into coin shapes?
>>27238125To be honest, if I ran a Fanged economy, it would be for the region the adventures takes place in. To allow several different settlements to trade among each other.Of course my setting has mostly green-tech diesel-tech, or in the case of the central settlement, earless-tech.
>>27238145Oh, and my setting being the setting I would be running for my players.
>>27238139Possibly, or little bags of it weighted and measured. Presumably you could also trade for Funcloth and Funrope.>>27238149>>27238145I'd probably use bottle caps or the aforementioned nuts and bolts if it came down to a regional economy. Also I'd mostly stick to Solar and Wind power but occasionally give villians stuff like boilers that burn wood to give them that "no fucks given" villianous style.
>>27238215Alcohol-fuelled engines were discussed last thread, as well.Maybe steam engines run off alcohol/dried kelp?Also, WHAT wood? Gigantic mushrooms?
>>27238226There are palm trees that crawl around on their root systems. They form enormous rafts by twining their root systems together and sometimes hang around on islands. Antartica is a temperate forest zone now and presumably any landmasses left (we need some to break up waves so you don't get tidal waves that run around the world forever after they pick up enough momentum) and they could have forests.Also you could run an engine on methane produced by fermenting plants (it's a common byproduct produced when making alcohol) or hydrogen made via elctrolysis. I figure engines that run on stuff like that would be for emergencies or relatively primitive communities.
>>27238267There are still mountain ranges and what-not that provide a stop-buffer for the climate and for the oceans.As the sea level is 1500m higher than now, there are still plenty of landmass for such considerations.
>>27238345Also... just realized by looking at this map... Avoid the roaring forties furious 50s and screaming 60s around the Antarctic continent. There IS NO landmass there. Going to that location is a recipe for a shipwreck for all but the most experienced mariners and the toughest ships.
>>27238365I think I missed something. Why is this?
>>27238389Okay... first read this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roaring_Fortiesthis explains what I'm talking about. Now imagine a wider channel that is completely uninterrupted.
>>27238413Well thats fucking terrifying. Thanks for the link btw
>Never played a tabletop before>Want to get into them, but all the grimderp settings bore me to death>See CATastrophe>Hey this looks neat>Download the rule book>...>...>I have literally no idea what the fuck to dohelp ;-;
>>27238496It's a pretty bad system. Lots of fun stuff in that book, but I think running this using nWoD would be infinitely better than that rules system.
>>27238413Damn you! Now I won't be free of wikipedia tabs all day!
>>27238413What if you used a submersible or a large ship with lots of submersibles? Could you moor your ship in an area where the winds don't pose a threat?Alternatively could you use a solar powered blimp to get there and push past the winds on the final leg of the journey?Also there's plenty of landmass in antartica. It's just that it's being eroded by high winds, maybe a terraforming device has made the area volcanic and lost landmass is replaced by lava every 50 years or so?
>>27238521Or FATE or Savage Worlds, both are good alternatives.Especially FATE if you're more interested in storytelling aspects and just treat combat as a minor challenge and have your characters outsmart or luck their way through encounters with dangerous animals and pirates.
>>27238573Yeah, those would work. Something rules light. It's bizarre as hell to have an "adventure and not much combat, story game," that relies on two hundred pages of tables and charts.
Yes... yes, I'm working on a FATE thing. Seesh! This takes time... cooking a pie from scratch.
>>27238413http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_route> TFW now I want a game with kemomis operating a tall ship> Fightan sea creatures> Lootin shinies> Tradin shinies for goods> Sailan the oceans> Doggirls hauling ropes, while catgirls clamber up and down the rigging> Bunnygirls firing cannon at gigantic sea monsters
>>27238638This would be the best place for high-adventure and drama in CATastrophe. It's still the same theme, but now it's a bit more hectic.>Shipwrecked Kemomi>Ghost Ships that drifted into the screamers>Neonhoggr's domain>Lost courier ships>Erratic Weather PatternsThis area should be scary, but the adventure and profit should be huge for those that brave it.
>always had a thing for water worlds (like one in "spirited away")>now this>and I will never live in suchI have no words
>>27238669I feel that they'd be the real drivers of inter-settlement trade, as well. If not actual settlements unto themselves, due to the sheer amount of ocean they have to sail on.Plus, with the setting, there'd be epic boarding actions as well. Sailing up alongside another ship, throwing grapples across to pull them closer, dropping the boarding planks, and storming aboard to party and trade shinies.Fuck, now I REALLY want to do this.
>>27238215>Also I'd mostly stick to Solar and Wind power but occasionally give villians stuff like boilers that burn wood to give them that "no fucks given" villianous style.The image of this guy as a wolf just popped into my head.
>>27238345Wow. Arizona Bay is now a reality.
>>27238936Learn to swim. Or pack a life jacket.
>>27238069>Feel like doing something more action-y that evokes the feeling of a tail-to-tail race against the neighboring settlement?Hmm... I'll have to work on it, see what I can come up with.
>>27238925Now, there's a man that enjoyed being a villain. Signed onto a completely fucking absurd film that was never going to make a profit, and decided to just play the best bad guy he possibly could.
>>27239005Why does she have four ears?
>>27239271I have no idea. Maybe she's wearing some fake earless ears?
>>27238069>>27238996I just remembered that I wrote a (short) piece, several years ago, that I actually CALLED "Sail Race" when I couldn't think of another title. I dug it back up and did a little experimenting with the arrangement; see what you think.https://soundcloud.com/arizona-music/fair-day-for-a-sail-race
>>27239271See the pic in >>27235940
>>27239655I like it! Its very cheerful.
>>27238925Dude had a paddle powered Oil Tanker, shit was Cray Cray.But he'd make an EXCELLENT CATastrophe villian.
I'm curious about this setting.Are there any humans left at all? Or have they all died out? Any long lost conclaves struggling to survive? Research outposts observing the strange new world? Cities beneath the waves?Humanity want's it's world back
>>27240558It's left to the individual GM.One may have them watching a world run by Kemomi, another might have humanity actually extinct, there even is a way to have it where there are straggling humans.Depends on what the GM wants.
>>27240558>Humanity want's it's world backHFY pls.
>>27240558In order: No, yes, no, yes (but they're staffed by catgirls), yes (but they're sunken uninhabited ruins filled with treasure and not much else).This is not a setting for HFY.
>>27240628Doesn't the fluff say something to the extent that non-hybrid humans can't breathe the atmosphere anymore? If there are any full humans left they'd be underwater somewhere.>tfw the last human colony on earth turns out to be Rapture
>>27240558HFY plz go.
Before this HFY ball starts rolling...1: Nothing has been written/said about humans other than they aren't on Earth anymore, and aren't interested in returning.2: If Humans couldn't breathe the atmosphere, neither could the Kemomi as they are mostly human.3: Again, the whole question of "Earless; Extinct or not?" should be left to individual DMs (Dive Masters).
>>27240558Humanity Fuck No.They are dead, and those left are either stuck in stasis awaiting revival by kemomis that don't know and don't care, or in space and still consider the almost land-less Earth a dead loss.
>>27240775> If Humans couldn't breathe the atmosphere, neither could the Kemomi as they are mostly human.I was kinda wondering about this. I haven't read the PDF or anything, but I would think if you throw that much water onto the earth, the sheer amount of water vapor in the air would make it unbreathable.
>>27240734Fluff is just an excuse to Kill All Humans so Kemo can take their place. Alien bacteria and what not helped mutate local life and the rest are genengineered lifeforms to make life on Kemos easier.Humans aren't supposed to be a part of CATastrophe, they're gone, if rapture exists it's empty and run by robots that automatically staf shops and collect resources.In this setting humans are the ultimate mary su.
>>27240801>>27240789>>27240810 *headdesks*Can't we just say somehow it all balances out for a normal atmosphere?
>>27240775>3: Again, the whole question of "Earless; Extinct or not?" should be left to individual DMs (Dive Masters).It's better to leave them out, otherwise these threads will get nowhere, as they'll be filled with even more HFY Purge The Mutant than they already are.
>>27240833Thing is the HFY/Purge the Mutant crap is NOT CATastrophe. CATastrophe is a cartoonish Noble Bright adventure game about fun, diving, parties, some surfing, and lots of shiny loot.That is the core of CATastrophe.
>>27240659>>27240740HFY was in jest, I'm much more interested in the idea of stragglers or isolated communities.
>>27240875The isolation is actually essential. It prevents a dependence of a "metaplot" that every DM has to follow. Now, this also allows things to happen pretty much isolated from each other.It's a VERY big ocean, no matter what happens, you will be missed at the party.
>>27240859So why would you want to give anyone any excuse to try to put the HFY crap into the book?When someone asks about humans (especially in a HFY kinda way), the answer should be "as the point of the setting was to create a world without humans, the world is devoid of humans").
>>27206011>That sign on the burger stand>"Terrible beauties of fear and h-???>your friends cannot help you"2spooky
>>27240558While I personally think humanity being dead/gone forever suits the setting better, I cant exactly tell you that you CANT put some humans in your game and if you really want to, I see no reason why I should try to stop you from it. But the "Humanity want's it's world back" part of your post that really confuses me. I can just imagine two humans, waking up from cryosleep/coming back from space/etc and observing earth as it has become.>Hey boss, it turns out that the earth is covered with carefree catgirls, some of who consider us something akin to gods and those that don't would love us forever due to the fact that we know how all this fancy tech of ours actually works>LOCK AND LOAD, BOYS, LEAVE NO SURVIVORS! REMOVE CATNIP, REMOVE CATNIP!It just don't make no sense to me.
>>27240930Actually it's INTENTIONALLY left up in the air for a DM to mess with. There shouldn't and won't be any "Word of God" opinion one way or another about Humans. At least in my head. The focus of the game should be on the Kemomi though, and humans in the setting DO take away from the core concept. But the rules shouldn't be designed to permanently bar something that one DM might want to do.
>>27240934Its a definition of surrealism. No clue what its doing there, but it kinda fits the whole setting if you ask me.
>>27240990Eh, that part was meant more in jest than anything else. As I agree it is an irrational response that doesn't make too much sense from what i can see of the setting.Hence, spoilering it rather than making it in an actual part of the main post.In hindsight, it was probably a mistake as it seems to have irritated people, but c'est la vie.
>>27214349Do those things go around touching things at night?Do they make everything a bother?Do they solve all the crosswords?
>>27240990I agree on this opinion. This should be the operating philosophy. As a Noble Bright universe as well, if Humans show up they should be benevolent explorers observing how what they left behind are adapting to their new surroundings.That is IF a DM has humans in their fame. Otherwise... they no longer exist.
>>27241094They steal your shinies and drag all electronic things into the depths of the oceans with them since they feed on that shit.They probably also solve all the crosswords and rearrange your spice rack, since I secretly believe they feed on catgirl tears more than they do on electricity.
>>27222688Nobody dies.Not even the Kaiju.It's like that one Powerpuff girl episode where monsters prove how tough they are by fighting the giant robots.
>>27240991And it's an attitude like that which will allow the HFYfags to keep coming in. That's what halted this project the first time, remember?If something defeats the point of the core concept, it should be removed. If saying "humans don't exist in this setting where the point was that humans don't exist" is "Word of god", then saying ANYTHING about the setting is "Word of God". At that point, you might as well just strip out all the setting and make blank mechanics.
>>27240990How bout humans just fucked off to Mars and don't want anything to do with Earth anymore.There are a few humans on Earth, but their only objective would be to get to the colony on Mars, making all of their actions (such as stealing tech or resurrecting some ancient machine) seem like something a Lovecraftian god would do.Now, this doesn't happen too often, but that's where most of the legends of humans come from.
>>27241191Okay then. Humans are by default extinct.
>>27241086You weren't here for the endless HFY trolling or attempts to Grimdark CATastrophy I guess.Or that horrible IRC thing where they had the races fighting over resources and it was basically Waterworld with Kemonomimi.No worries, all is forgiven.>>27241098Or a group of Lads and Lasses in need of rescue and romance in this strange watery world. Like a VN where instead of being a human seducing Kemonomimi your a Kemonomimi seducing humans with your hard earned shiny.Yeah its a Hairessy Idea but it makes me smile when I think about it.
>>27241238Much better. And I did miss out on those incidents.
>>27241156>Main bad guy is resposable for an entire cities crosswords being solved, spices rearranged and toilet paper missing.
>>27241238That does sound fun at all.These sounds like a setting that doesn't need all that bullshit.It sounds too nice.
>>27241287Well... I think this is /tg/'s baby. In the end it is all opinions. If you guys want a grimdark version of CATastrophe, then make your own setting that is like a "Mirror Mirror" parallel universe to the happy shiny CATastrophe universe.
>>27241238My apologies then, I was not aware of that nor did I intend to remind people of it.
>>27241216If that's how you want to fluff it then go ahead, but the main rulebook will be left intentionally vague.
>>27241366It's okay.I've stumbled once too... There was a abortion of a CATastrophe homebrew I did using Mutants and Masterminds 3rd Edition.
>>27241287Resource wars and piracy can be a fun background for political intrigue, assassinations and war but CATastrophy is supposed to be a BREAK from that shit.Some guys are edgy tryhards who have to have blood and murder everywhere though. Best just to ignore people like that.>>27241230No reason not to assume this really, if a GM wants to have a game where his players are school girls in cryo who wake up to survive in the ruins of a city and do their best to get a dreamy date for the Sun Fruit Harvest Festical at Sky Tree Village he'll do that even if you say "HUMANS ARE DEEEAAAD" right in the sourcebook.And there's nothing wrong with that, but for the moment we should stick to the 3 Main races and assume that humans are extinct so we don't go off on wierd ass tangents.
>>27241434I'm with you on everything up to this: >3 Main racesI am a adherent of 5 races, although I might at least for my FATE thing, make Bears and Rabbits optional along with a few others.
>>27241465>Bears and RabbitsI have no problem with Kumamimi but aren't rabbits one of the 3 main? What would you replace them with? Mice, Squirrels?Why not have the races adhere to the Agile, Smart, Strong trifecta and just let homebrew Kumamimi grab one of the 3 templates and afdd appropiate traits to it?Like a Nekomimi will always land on her feet, Usagimimi are good at building, Inumimi are good at teamwork etc.
>>27241583I thought the three were Cat, Dog, Fox. If Foxes are the odd one out and Rabbits are in, then I stand corrected.
I normally gm with a fuckton of characters so I decided I'd use the 1d4chan charts to get a good idea of how to play them, etc. It turned out to walk on all fours, and it sleeps, a lot. It's actually a fishing cat, but the others think she's a kemomi. It's a bit of a running joke. For names I usually just look at the first word I see on a package in the trash. This one is named Fillet. (Feel-ay)If it'd be too silly, I take out a few letters like it was faded. Bags becomes Ags.
>>27206011From the thumbnail I thought this was an anime, sterilized Plastic Beach.
>>27241651Why would it be Cat, Dog, Fox?Foxes are Canines like Dogs. If anything Foxes would fall under Inumimi as one of many different sub species. They'd also be fighting with cats for the role of aloof trickster.Nah, the third race is rabbits who can be communal workers or something.
I think then I will default to 4 "common" races.Cats, Dogs, Rabbits, and Foxes.Bears would be a "rare" race as well as Mice and Ferrets.
>>27241895>Foxes>CommonI'm just joshin' yah.But seriously, Foxes can just be a type of inumimi like wolves and similar canids...just my two cents though, do as you see fit.
>>27241895Can we stop with the races debate and get on with the setting?It bogs things down EVERY SINGLE TIME.
>>27242378I'm past it.
>>27242378>>27242516Is there a summary of core lore to be found somewhere? Digging through thread archives on 1d4chan is a pain and not very useful.
>>27242621Sadly no, all my experience is from working with the various CATastrophe groups I've passed through. Some with more success than others.
>>27242621If you have questions, ask 'em we'll try to get you up to speed.>>27242728huh. Maybe someone should compile a list of canon locations and creatures and stuff...?
>>27242728Well that pretty much dashes my dreams of trying to run it. I looked at that pdf, but the rules are waaaay too crunchy for an adventure/exploration, low combat game.>>27242808Unfortunately, my questions are kinda about everything. I've seen and perused these threads, but a clear-cut image of what's going on has never really come out of them, that I've seen.
>>27242875Yeah. But at least I think I got a solution.
>>27242621As one of the original team working on it, I can say 'some of it'. I have a .txt file with a bunch of early brainstorming on it, early hashed-out rules for the MAID port, and some fiction.Anyone know how to save something as a .pdf so I can upload it?Or I could just paste it straight into here.
>>27243012> Dumping it as plain-text. 1/?The city pictures are just weird. Are the oceans filled with chlorine or something? Where's the algae?The algae was also wiped out in the apocalypseJust the algae. It was an apocalpyse that flooded everything and killed off all of the algae> tfw that's actually pretty serious shit, a lot of foodchains have algae at the bottomBy the looks of it it destroyed a majority of the aquatic ecosystem.Now you understand why it's an apocalypsewhat catastrophe could have caused this?Giant salt asteroid hitting each of the ice caps?My god. The world is one giant swimming pool.I bet all those cat girls either have bleached or greenish hair,,,That might be a cool plot: fix the water purifier by raiding old buildings for humie tech.>nyadorns councilWell, there we go. Nyadorns Council wants the PCs to find the water chip. Are you a bad enough cat girl to save the vaul- I mean, village?I assume that level of salination has some negative effects besides being completely undrinkable and killing off marine life?Wow, that actually makes pretty much everything make sense, good job with that. Salt asteroid is the kind of thing you can assume to exist anyway. Especially for a setting that doesn't need to worry about any sort of authentic representation of space.Can't see how it wouldn't, but an asteroid made of such material isn't exactly common.Other problems that so much salt might cause, though, is that salt water promotes rust and all sorts of other chemical degredation. The buildings would fall apart faster, and it'd probably also kill off a lot of the plants.Although, one method of purifying salt water involves boiling it, leaving behind reformed salt crystals as the water can no longer keep the ions that made up the salt apart.So if there's a creature that adapted to use salt in it's physiology somehow, that could explain why so many creatures are dead, yet the buildings haven't been completely eradicated.
>>272430622/?Silicon based life forms might be likely to use salt or some other metals and metaloids as nutrients. So the oceans are filled with rock-monsters, but in order to have silicone based life, we need a lot of silicon, and my knowledge of basic chemistry fails me as to how many sources of silicon naturally exist. (Though, we could also have had some silicon in the asteroids that caused the catastophe)Incidentally, I think CATastrophe would be a good name for this setting.however various sea sponges as well as microorganisms like diatoms need silicon in order to have structure (Wikipedia: Silicon).>sea spongesMust be at least some of it on the sea floor then, right?Yeah, my brain failed me for a little bit; sand is silicon dioxide, as well as quartz.So if we assume that silicon-life/rock-monsters come into being to make use of all the salt, there's probably a lot less sand lying around.Very shiny rock monsters.So our cat-folk end up fighting shiny rock monsters in sunken buildings and keeping their corpses as trophies, since their high salt content makes them inedible.So then there's the matter of food. I'm assuming that the water hasn't killed off all the land plants, but omnivorous cat girls are going to need some meat, too.Why can't there be some sort of fish or birds that have adapted to life in what amounts to a swimming pool? Something has to eat sea sponges. Nature tends to not let silly things like extinction events get by that easily.Especially if there are green plants, there should be something grazing on said plants.Preparing the meat might be another story...Hell, you might even make looking for human age cans of cat food a plot point...Green plants means insects. Insects can be fed upon by birds, which fowl make up the other half of mundane cat's primary diet. (They were also carnivores, but becoming humanoid could have let them become more omnivorous like us)
>>27236484Very nice! I enjoy your work. Do you make music as a hobby?>>27237821Hnng it keeps getting better!>>27238125Ah yes, I can see that. >>27238496>>27242875Gomen.. The beta draft will hopefully not be such a clusterfuck, and so crunchy that it cuts up the roof of your mouth even after adding milk. As >>27238573 and others have stated, there are alternatives to the alpha system I made.>>27243012You could nab a copy of adobe acrobat, not to hard to torrent I suppose. Just make sure you follow the crack procedures if you do decide to become a pirate.
>>27243012This could be a good bible to work from.Please post the PDF then.
>>27243087Oddly enough, I also imagine the cat-folk liking human age energy drinks. Fish and fowl are primary parts of a cats diet because they are rich in the nutrient taurine; without taurine, cats go blind. In humans, taurine isn't necessary, but is believed to aid in muscle regeneration, which is why it's included in energy drinks.Energy drinks are probably a luxury item brought back from scavengers.Yarn might be a nice plus, but I can't think of anything on the same level as catfood and energy drinks.Well, there's shelter. With that, all the basic needs are filled. Anything else they'd want out of there would be recreational.I guess vitamin supplements, flea and tick collars? Antibiotics? Drugs that cause them to go into heat?Ignore the last one.What exactly do cats need to survive past naps and comfy laps?Bear in mind that cats are natural predators, our cat-folk likely just exploring the human ruins less out of necessity, and more out of boredom. (Somebody mentioned earlier that they see this as more of a light-hearted scenario, anyways.)So it's not really "We need these or we'll die!" but "Dude, the ancients had some pretty bitching stuff!"Old cat toys and other shiny objects are likely targets as well, but given the fussy personalities cats seem to have, somebody may REALLY want one specific kind of thing, and will probably stop at nothing to get it.Laser pointersI am imagining some person introducing themselves as a great magician or prophet.They use a laser pointer to sell their story.Well I think the most important thing in this setting is going to be drinkable water, since the ground is covered with non-drinkable water. So energy drinks, regular water and other beverages. Of course, to keep it lighthearted, there could be a desalination plant laying around that just needs to be brought back online.Collecting rain in buckets, trenches, or towers; that could also work.
>>27243012That or you could upload the text to Google Docs or Pastebin, or something like that.
>>27243106Sorry for the spam; I can't be arsed to install utorrent and go find torrents and crack things and that crap.3/?Or maybe domesticating smaller rock-monsters that drink salt-water and expel fresh water. (That might be a little weird, though.)Golems that produce fresh water. Why not even have them be reprogrammed with human tech?Or shattered rock monster parts can be reused. We now have a mechanic/drone class. Why stop there? They could even use salvaged RC cars and planes and such.Hell, explorers will need spotters when they go underwater. Who else would man the sonar/radar?How about scientists created a plant/mushroom/whatever that can somehow deal with the salt and its effects, but only for awhile? And the cat girls are routinely growing this on land and then re-planting it around building foundations submerged in water? Or maybe they grow some artificial coral that simply doesn't let any water through, and provide food for it around buildings where they plant it, and when there's enough of it, hey, safe buildings! Or maybe they stop feeding the coral and it dies, leaving a dead but waterproofing coral husk.Maybe some people with the mechanist 'spark' could cobble together primitive robots or something? There has to be some tech around, especially if half of the world is underwater (SCUBA gear, re-breathers, sonar, etc).>robot guard dogs watch over energy drink and cat food stashesThe Purnanym is a small traveling caravan of sorts, based out of an old whaling boat. They trade goods in different areas, buying low and selling high, and will occasionally take on passengers, for a modest fee. Purnanym is named after the two people that got the old boat up and working properly; Purna the Catgirl and Nym , a fox-boy.Drown? XXXX was fish food.Make a grid, prototype the RANDOM CITY GENERATOR of Shit Gets Rusty.Make it 2d, and a rougelike that focuses on searching out human shit.Just make males rare.
Please, just make a PDF and post that instead of eating posts here.
>>27243107I could, but I'm already halfway through the file now.3/6, I think.Bear in mind that this is EARLY EARLY stuff, and I've no idea how much made it to 'canon'.>>27243135Cat huntresses bring back food, treasure, and glory. Men stay home and become scholars, mechanics, and husbands.No input?I think it'd fit kinda well and give a reason for young animal girls to explore.FOR LOOT, GLORY, AND MATES!>eraphow tendingEraphow best be tending the kittens...Ruins are dangerous.Add robots that act like Reaverbots, and you have an adventure.If you want romance, have the PCs fight over mates on land and party it up before their next dive.Male PCs could even be things like SONAR techs or field support mechanics. That way, you have someone to make the gear, someone to use it, and someone to bring back MORE SHINY THINGS.Maybe there could be "chlorine storms" or something where clouds of chlorine gas pass over areas and the inhabitants have gasmasks handy in case of these things.But to keep the lightheartedness, make it so they tend to happen far out to sea (which would be super-far-out to sea given that the sea is even bigger now), so cases of the "storms" hitting populated areas is incredibly rare.Could have entire plot hooks about having to take a boat out to a chlorine-heavy area to dive for some lost ship.Do you niggas even dive? Ever heard of timed ascensions? Decompression sickness can kill you just as surely as a ruptured tank.Stunguns: Safe above, leathal underwater.There's an idea.Can we somehow make a gun that fires arcs of electricity and adapt it for exploring? Short circuits robots, stuns enemies, all in one exploration tool.>angles eersinfurAngles Eersinfur: creator of the arc-gun.Reiveki is the number-one Catgirl Singing Idol in her hometown.
>>27240820Well, no: that would be fatal to suspension of disbelief. But you can reasonably either a) sidebar it, noting that kemomimi and other surviving organisms are adapted (possibly artificially) to the current water-vapor levels and therefore it shouldn't make a difference for most games, or b) just fail to mention it completely.I appreciate that you want to leave things up to individual groups, but if you leave _too much_ up to individual groups, you aren't actually writing a setting. (And frankly, if a DM is determined to have humans, they'll have humans anyway, with or without your tacit encouragement.)>>27240991>humans in the setting DO take away from the core conceptThis, right here. As such, there's no reason to spend word count or thought on their possible presence. Any DM that wants them in can shoulder the responsibility themselves.
>>27243141Two more and it's done for now. It's late and I'm feeling lazy today.>>27243173The story so far:CATastrophe is a setting based off of some pictures of kemonomimi living on ocean platforms and others of cities flooded with pristine water, a world was created with the ocean flooding into the cities and chlorinated into the world's largest swimming pool by a meteoric chlorine tablet, then changed to be a world made by /tg/esque scientists when it was decided the chlorine thing was actually pretty stupid.Remember, if anything is wrong with the world it is probably because of Williams.So! we have a flooded earth that scientists made kemono girls and guys, whose primary species are bunnies, dogs, and cats, to survive the nanobot/whatever horror that killed humans. Rouge scientist William or "Willy" got mad that he got fired from the council of redesigning the world and poisoned parts of the water and created rouge poison clouds, made rockmonsters and robots to wreck the tranquility, and generally made a mess of things. Melting icecaps made the saltwater get thrown off enough to kill most sea life, besides a few species like sponges, some fish, crabs, octopi that may or may not have phallus tentacles [William!]. The kemono spend there time sunbathing and partying. Some explore the ruins of mankind that have been preserved by the nanobots, braving robots, silicon monsters, pirates, and klepomanders: mysterious salamander-like monsters that steal shinies from the kemono. That is everything I gathered from the last thread.
>>27243202I think the idea was keep it mainly to incapacitation, but that could be changed from DM to DM. Suspense is the key form of action, not combat. The actual Shiny Dives should be a little darker than the surface part of the game. Not everyone dies miserably dark, but just a little scarier and more tense. Think Bioshock with less body horror, terrible implications, and Randian philosophy. You are even looking for old voice logs that record what the hell happened to the old world.And yes, I love the idea of rickety ruins. Maybe the reason the kemonomimi dont inhabit all of the old towers is that a lot of them simply arent structurally sound.You could even make that into its own game. You are a brand new kemonomimi tribe, striking it out from your old home to find a piece of the Endless Blue to call your own. First, you have to find a hospitable group of buildings, then you have to go spelunking for shinies for spruce it up, then you have to make it a worthwhile place to visit and eventually establish yourself on the waterbus trade routes.>A Diver brings back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJlBN4fIBM0>How did the Earless predict our language?!Do they talk the modern world's languages? I ask because I imagined this:> scavcats bring back a stereo and hook it up> throw in an old cd> the music playsDo they understand the lyrics, or is it like listening to foreign music?(Or some more, because I hit a text-dense part of it.)
>>27243233So let me see if I cant summarize a few things we have so far in regards to fauna>manta ray mounts>sea turtle pack mules>big ol crabs>kleptomanders>oldguardsAnd social structure>parties are kind of a big deal, possibly due to being a big social bonding experience>women are the ones who go out and hunt and scavenge and such much more so than guys>guys tend to be scholars, mechanics, etc>scavengers use their shinies to attract guys>traders try to get their hands on the shinies through barter in order to do the same thingMaybe the reason the shinies work so well at attracting mates is because, aside from the typical love of shiny objects, is due to their innate desire to learn more about the old world tech they constantly work with and history they constantly study?The reason why shinies work so well on men is that they love to study them. Women just throw things at them.FishingPossibly stupid idea: Artificial intelligence backups (physically represented by holograms or robots or something) of two scientists lurk in the shadows and want to end the current way of the world. One is Williams, who wants to destroy all sentient life in a huge case of sour grapes. The other, let's call him Bunnings (Williams and Bunnings are both Australian hardware store chains - yes, I'm an idiot), wants to restore humanity and its old way of life. He's more charismatic, but doesn't really give much of a damn about the kemonomimi. He wants to restore life and give happiness, but not to those currently alive. An analogy for fans of Myst: Bunnings = Sirrus, Williams = Achenar.
>>27243250To deal with these beings and plead the case of the kemonomimi, scholars of the ancient civilization of the Earless, upon learning of the two beings (who are not widely known about), groom a kemonomimi to become the equal of the two beings. He or she must wear the fabled vestment - a white coat - and become a Sy-En-Tiss, a concept discarded by the kemonomimi long ago, but now needed once more. During his or her quest, he or she ultimately learns what a Sy-En-Tiss was - a seeker of objective truth, and an obtainer of understanding.Yeah pretty much.Catgirls can haul an average amount, eat an average amount, have average health, have fewer turns in combat but have an extremely high chance of finding the best loot.Bunnygirls can haul the least, eat very little, cant take a hit for the life of them, but have the most turns in combat. They are decent at finding loot, but nowhere near as good as catgirls.Doggirls can haul a hell of a lot and are monsters in combat, having the second most amount of turns and being strong as hell. However, they eat goddamn everything and have the least interest in rooting around for treasure.You could even give them a few racial perks, too. Catgirls get aforementioned bonus to treasure hunting, bunnygirls get something related to movement or maybe their light frames make them less likely to set off pressurized traps or cause cave-ins, and maybe doggirls have some sort of loyalty bonus where they get bonuses to combat if an ally is incapacitated.Most of this is just spitballing, as you can see.This seems plausible. I'll focus on combat mainly for now.I'd think cats would have a bonus in combat with certain weapons, being the most finesse-oriented, perhaps something akin to the rapier?The loyalty bonus seems like an amazing ability, give them a ragestate where they soak up damage?Rabbits seem like a grey area, perhaps have stun attacks and disarms, or rolls to get out of the area?Howabout leveling?
I know that CATastrophe has evolved beyond a lot in this document.
>>27243261seems like dogs would get the fewest turns (ever seen a cat fight a dog) and dogs would be the best at finding treasure (sense of smell, burying shit and remembering where they buried it)cats getting more turns than dogs would also fit the whole cats being average theme and be more balanced because dogs presumably do more damageI have, and that makes sense as far as turns go, but dogs have more of a sense of smell of things that they know, but ancient tech would have taken in the sent of the surroundings, and have you ever had to hide something from a cat? They open doors, packaging, squeeze through open outlets in walls, and will not let the fuck up.Teamwork, that's another thing.Cats are there for gain, and possibly more leaders, dogs have that itch to please, and respond with bonuses while loyal, and rabbits are largely independent, as forward scouts and stealth ops.Also, i've had this idea before, where overcoming obstacles would gain you skills, along with random events, such as:>You've managed to climb the tallest tree on the island, and though your muscles ache, the view of the shimmering waters around you are ample reward. Now you only have one concern, how to get down. (add to climbing ability)Sorta like Shadowrun skills; a big general skill group, individual skills from it, and specialisations thereof.Thus:Group: LongarmsSkill: RiflesSpecialisation: Sniper rifles.Bunny Flash jump: "Keep up!"Dog shock paddles "Don't you 404 on me!"Weapons: Normal: Handguns, shotguns,Sciency: Pumped Air rifles, air canister shrapnal granades, Arc RifleArc rifle acts like an arc on land DPSing one enemy. It turns into a full screen discharge that takes a long time to reload underwater.Schools of fishOne master fish that the otehrs follow. Each school can either be infront or behind, which adds the illusion of visual depth.Nike shoes Nik-ehs.> LAST ONE, ALL DONESorry for the text-wall spam.
Yeah, a lot of this document isn't even used or thought of. There's been lots of changes to canon.
>>27243268So do I, but it's nice to know where it came from.Found another file!IRC GROUP ALTERATIONS:Less gender disparity. Higher tech, maybe?NEW MONSTER IDEAS:The ever-popular Hugtopus, which is definitely inOldguard of a few types (still working on that for ideas)Giant Enemy CrabsGlowchomp sharksA type of swarming fish that lives in the deep abyss that is completely invisible due to all of it's tissues being transparent... you only know they're coming because of their unique form of sonic communication that you can feel in the water.A type of squid that's cowardly and tends to hide, will ink and run, etc... unless there are enough of them, in which case they'll get brave and start stalking you. If they get the drop on you, they'll snag your shinies and make a quick getaway. They like things that are metallic and tend to be found around Earless ruins that are extremely deep, attracted to the lights.The Hugtopus is basically an octopus that grabs and squeezes. It's trying to eat you, but it's mouth is a bit too small. They're still dangerous, of course, but if you whack them a few times they'll cut and run.Of course, if you run into a really big one, things might be significantly worse.The Glowchomps are a really sleek bio-luminescent shark from the deep ocean. They're incredibly fast and eat a ton, so they're always hungry. They're very dangerous, so they're best avoided whenever possible.The giant enemy crab is a giant crab often encountered as an enemy. It walks sideways and has claws. If you cut it's head with scissors, it makes a really depressing reaction image.Kleptomanders - the giant, shiny-stealing salamanders that are forever a plague upon kemomimidom. Beasts from the depths that fear neither laser pointer nor canned air!
>>27243311Rockskimmer Penguins, pic related. Not all animals died in the wake of the catastrophe, some even adapted beautifully to this new world, like the Rockhopper Penguin. Living in a region of long, flat rooftops and the tops of what were once cliff faces, the Rockskimmer Penguins use the long stretches of land to build up speeds great enough to propel their gargantuan bodies bouncing across the water like a skipping stone. After a few bounces, they level out and skim across the surface of the ocean, scooping up the Phish that lurk just beneath the ocean surface in their beaks. How they manage to maintain their velocity during all this is unknown because catgirls cant into science.Home Life:>CatgirlsLarge open-windowed rooms with high up places to inexplicably get to and lots of warmth to bask in - nekomimi houses have prime areas for basking in sunlight all year around in themIt wouldn't stop them from simply laying wherever there is a good spot though>DoggirlsLots of pillowforts and Arabian style pillow seats everywhere.Dog girls would have piles of cushions for them to rustle around in and get comfortable>RabbitgirlsBlanket fort burrows.bunny girls would have little warrens of blankets in a corner of their house>>27243305So, detail the changes. Enlighten.I thought this project had died for ages, after the IRC group went silent.
So what do the Kemo think of the earless? I heard they were worshipped, but in what way?
>>27243173>chlorine stormsAhahahaha. You weren't here for any of that, were you? Yeah, basically high concentrations of chlorine is a really bad idea -- it kills algae, vertebrates, and suspension of disbelief all at once. We've, uh, had that discussion. Very loudly.>>27243202>Rouge scientist William or "Willy" got mad that he got fired from the council of redesigning the world and poisoned parts of the water and created rouge poison clouds, made rockmonsters and robots to wreck the tranquility, and generally made a mess of things. Melting icecaps made the saltwater get thrown off enough to kill most sea life, besides a few species like sponges, some fish, crabs, octopi that may or may not have phallus tentacles [William!].Please don't take this too far. Willy was funny in context, but like most jokes, Willy can't stay funny long.>>27243250>Possibly stupid ideaProbably a little too dark. Not unreasonable for a given campaign, though -- especially if the setup were Mystlike in that the AIs were unable to directly affect the world around them.
>>27243323Okay seriously if you have any more of this stuff don't post it, a lot of this is fairly useless material and the rest of it is >Opinions that amount to very basic fluff.Secondly I don't know about you but fucking categorizing ancient ideas taken from threads that are literally a year old plus change doesn't strike me as a worthy past time.
>>27243424They aren't worshipped like gods. They're the guys who made the cities and lots of the tech that Kemos loot during dives.Opinions on them vary from settlement to settlement and person to person.So there is no unified opinion on Earless held by the Kemonomimis.
>>27243455IIRC, we decided against the chlorine fairly quickly for those reasons. I was in the initial Skype group until it fell apart, but missed the IRC stuff for the most part.>>27243463That's why it's been sitting mostly-forgotten on my harddrive. This is all I have barring unformatted skype logs.
>The algae was also wiped out in the apocalypseThis is as retarded as the chlorine idea. Algae is an integral part of plankton and one of the most basic food stuffs of the ocean. Removing it would make vibrant sea life im-fucking-possible.So yeah, this isn't canon.>shiny rock monstersOh and this one is another thing I don't like, I don't even like Kav's alien moss that makes fangs. Give the Kemo special tech filters if you want water purification but silicon based monsters on top of robots is fairly pointless.
>>27243567Next time put it in a Pastebin or Google doc. Niether require downloads or anything particularly computer savvy.>GunsI don't see Kemonomimi using actual guns on a common basis. Stun weapons and scifi blasters which can knock someone out but not actual guns.
>>27243661In fact lethal firearms by default just aren't used.It's a combination of the Kemomi having a almost cartoonish form of pacifism, the fact that firearms that are salvaged are so rusted out they are unsalvagable as what they were originally used, and stun weapons tend to have survived better (pre-flood super-plastics FTW).
Just though of something. Cats have kidneys that are efficient enough to allow them to drink sea water with no ill effect. Can the cat girls do this?
>>27243424Well, probably not worship, not any more than we worship the ancient Greeks or Babylonians. Although there could be a few cults here or there, they'd be pretty heterogenous -- really, cults of personality dressed up in Earless trappings.Crackpot idea: Kemonomimi also tend to have smaller social spheres than humans (due to a smaller Dunbar's number), so even without resource constraints, their social structures and settlement sizes would tend not to reach the critical mass for city formation like the Earless' did. (They do still have hierarchies and councils and so forth, just like humans, but they all tend to be ... smaller in scope.) Correspondingly, there are also no major organized religions or political movements; they just don't hold together.
>>27243736I've always thought that salt water is not a issue for drinking for short-term survival, but that can stress the drinker.It's not as dire as when a human drinks salt-water though.
>>27243729>KemomiPlease stop that.
>>27243761>Crackpot idea: Kemonomimi also tend to have smaller social spheres than humans (due to a smaller Dunbar's number), so even without resource constraints, their social structures and settlement sizes would tend not to reach the critical mass for city formation like the Earless' did. (They do still have hierarchies and councils and so forth, just like humans, but they all tend to be ... smaller in scope.) Correspondingly, there are also no major organized religions or political movements; they just don't hold together.Overthinking it. There is just too scattered a population. That's why settlements are so small. They're still a few generations away from making perpetuating cities.
>>27243761Not being allowed to have cities is a little harsh, but on a general level I think that sounds good.You still have large cities as trading ports or resource collection hubs, but they're organized differently. Like into small districts, each run differently.
>>27243803It's what we've been using for a while. Catch up.
>>27243838It's been reverted back to Kemomimi, because >animal body
>>27243661>>Guns>I don't see Kemonomimi using actual guns on a common basis. Stun weapons and scifi blasters which can knock someone out but not actual guns.Probably the most dangerous ballistic weapons they have are slingshots. I don't imagine anyone in CATastrophe world gives a rat's ass about rediscovering gunpowder.(Incidentally, if there are more rodent Kemomi out there somewhere, wouldn't the phrase "I don't give a rat's ass" be considered racist?)
>>27243821Big cities as just a bunch of smaller settlements in the same structure?
>>27243914No rodent Kemo. Causes problems wit the catfolk.
>>27244028Yes, exactly. But they're referred to as districts. Each district is completely different from all the others. Different government, different rules, different architecture, different things on sale in the shops.Really makes the cities, rare as they are, worth visiting. An adventure in and of themselves.
>>27243135In a 2-d platformer like suggested there it would be nice to actually feel a sense of accomplishement from finding loot and get excited about more than mere points when finding some earless techmaybe have a settlement that you need to manage and multiple Kemo's that you can pick for different teams every missionmales would be like a type of loot, only mechanically of course, since they need to be kept protected inside your settlement and they give it bonuses with their different skills
>>27243914Fireworks, any gunpowder weaponry they have are based off of fireworks. Complete with pretty colors.>>27244058Diver's Bay is one of those. 4 Oil Rigs welded together, studded with solar panels and wind turbines. a combination of Bazzar, Ship Dock, Sup Dock, and Mooring Point for airships as well as having some fairly ritzy living quarters. It's surrounded by islands made from crago containers, tethered ships (some of which serve as floats for manions and apartment complexes), and boats that ferry between the various locations that PCs could visit. There's always a party in some part of the city, fireworks are constantly going off so you could always pick it out on the horizon and its something of a mecca for salvagers since they know ALL the good dive sites.
>>27241276Even worse: turning the toilet paper around in the opposite direction.
>>27245118And stealing your left sock.
>>27245118>>27245190And turning off your fridge so your food goes bad and your drinks get warm.
>>27245268There is evil, then there is DIABOLIC. That sort of evil is equal to kicking puppies!
It seems to me every minor problem which has no immediate explanation is blamed on the Kleptomanders.It'd be extremely humorous if, despite being everywhere in the fluff, they don't actually exist and are just superstitious. Like gremlins.
>>27245421Yeah. I'd agree.
And with this post we are one from auto. Someone archive?
>>27245421Something for a GM to decide, really.Honestly, I feel like we're repeating ourselves. Almost everything that's been brought up can be answered as "it's interesting but it's something a GM can do themselves and there's no reason for it to be referenced or included in the default setting".
>>27245421I prefer kleptomanders as real, dangerous monsters that can, ad will leave scars on advetureous Kemonomimi.>>27245506Well occasionally we come up with ideas for new locations and get ideas like the Shrieking Channel ( >>27238345 >>27238413 ) which are great setting material. It's best to space these threads out though, a couple every month should cover our CATastrophe Quota.Plus we got music out of this one, 1 cool video and a piece made for the setting, it was worthwile.That said I wouldn't turn down another thread.
>>27247924And that was hours before we even hit the hundredth post. Nice.