>Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Nazi%20Quest>IRC: irc.Sorcery.net #Fantasyland>Wiki: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=TheFourthEmpire.TheFourthEmpireYou have had a very, very chaotic time of things. You are Oberst Hans Landa, currently in command of the largest force you've yet laid eyes on, all assembled in front of you. You don't even notice the driving winter winds, the heavy snowfall only now beginning to accumulate with the completion of Siegfried's massive, blinding, and soul-consuming ritual. You have been in this land for many months now, and you cannot help but notice just how local materials and German engineering have blended together. You can't even properly recall how long it's been since you first arrived in this strange, seemingly fantastic world. A world that has now become stained in blood, iron, and death. The Empire has struck a blow against you, and now it is time to reciprocate in kind.A ritual that has apparently consumed Knight Commander Beregen, who accompanied you to the Gate. Whether by your own machinations or simple oversight, the paladin's outrage at the ritual performed prompted him to attack, causing him to gravely wound Gunther, the leader of your SS Commando squad, before attempting to engage Siegfried. An effort that resulted in the 'holy' warrior's utter annihilation.An army stands before you, however. An army far larger than what you expected, though Siegfried's insane disappearance has left more questions than answers.Hundreds of Wehrmacht soldiers in full winter kit, gas masks on, stand alongside Thule Society potential mages, all dressed in thick black robes to account for the wintery weather. Vehicles idle as the men already on-site, clearly a bit shaken from what they just witnessed, struggle to regain their wits and organize some form of order amongst the chaos.
>>26210474You glance over and see Gunther's remains, the man clinging onto life by mere threads, the meat of his body exposed to you. Medics fuss over him as you see a number of officers and men converging on your position. Albert Speer is somewhere amidst that chaos, somewhere amongst the bulging artillery pieces and supply trucks, amongst the hundreds of men swarming around. Your facilities are likely woefully inadequate to suit this many men for housing. You realize you'll need more if you plan to house them here, though Redding itself-- the unofficial "Capital city" of the Reich in this new world-- could likely house the majority of them in the interim.But that might raise even more questions. Medics, officers, and more flurry around you. You see a few men move Gunther onto a stretcher in a hurry. You see more look to you for orders. Questions of just where Siegfried is, how to explain the disappearance of Knight Commander Beregen, and more all flurry around you.There is death in the air, and it is by your hand.Fascinating times are ahead, Oberst.
>>26210498>Because it was forgotten: It is currently November 15th, 1939. 4 P.M. "local time."
>>26210474Nazo quest, yay!Anyway, I think the first order of business it so meet Albert.I hope Gunther survives, do we have any magical healing on-site? Heck, send someone in the fastest possible vechicle to redding to grab magical potions or healer. Or, stabilize Gunther and transport him there as fast as posssible. Whatever warks faster.We need to have magical healing supplies at every outpost we make just in case.We could also make a speech to welcome the newcomers but I don't have anything to write for dialogue.
What? Bergeman died? God dammit. Let me read the last thread
We need to take that fortress as fast as possible now that we have all that we need. Or was there something else we need to wait for?Also, now that we have unlocked our own magical potential, we might want to take over Siegfried's duties and start learning more about magic and shit.
>>26210704>>26210614You look over to the medics, primarily concerned with keeping Gunther healthy."Get someone back to Redding to get healing potions or a magical healer--" You begin, but the medics are already ferrying Gunther off to the surgery building, and not for the first time are you glad for having had the foresight to construct such a thing.>Current forces: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=TheFourthEmpire.ExpeditionForces>Current assets (includes numbers of forces): http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=TheFourthEmpire.ExpeditionAssets>>26210727>>26210614You could order your men to begin to mobilize towards Fort Starbane if you wish, though they've get to get acclimated to their arrival, and are currently weighed down with as many supplies as they can carry (as is standard protocol when dealing with the fickle nature of the Gate).You could attempt to learn more about the arcane using whatever notes Siegfried might have left, but those are-- in all probability-- likely back at Redding. You do recall that he had a workshop here, however, which might be useful for the Thule Society entourage that just arrived.
Make sure the chaplain isn't shitting bricks. Answer any questions. Get the new soldiers prepared to take Fort Starbane, or the Sword place. Can we get the maps posted? I think we should begin expanding our own base, and begin fortifying the city. Maybe get some underground structures built. Or a quick, underground tunnel that leads from the base to Redding.
>>26210909>Reich territories outlined in a red circle.Father Vickerson is likely in the barracks on camp, if you wish to locate him, though considering the sort of things going on, you suspect it might not be wise to confront him after sacrificing so many people to an unknown ritual. You could seek him out if you wish, however.It is up to you how you wish to begin your assault. The men are still weighted down with their excess luggage and equipment, but you could order them to mount up on the supply trucks if you wish (at a large expense of your fuel reserves). Speer is yet to be found or addressed, but it's a royal clusterfuck as it is, with more than a few Hauptmanns running about trying to marshal their respective forces and squabbling over supplies. Even with the Gate closed, it's still sheer chaos. You don't even dare to touch a radio with the amount of traffic likely going around.You could attempt to retreat to the command post if you wish, and see about getting additional expansions/fortifications underway. The star fort foundations have been laid already, though you could stand to likely get started on the next (and final) stage of construction. Fortification of the city might also prove wise, considering the sheer volume of forces and scale of engagements likely about to take place.An underground tunnel would likely prove unnecessary, though likely highly secure. The tunnel itself would take some time to construct, considering it's three full days' ride in a vehicle to get to Redding.
>>262109501. Go to CP. 2. Let the soldiers unpack. 3. Mobilize soldiers to begin expanding the current base, finishing the star fort and fortifying the city, with priority on the Keep. We need a plausible sounding excuse for Bergamans death. Maybe a Thule society member could think up something.I think a tunnel would be a good idea since it'd let us move our forces around without fear of ambush.
I vote on this as our new Paladin. Alternatively...
>>26211205Or this one, to go with our apparent shift in alignment.
>>26211049Don't forget4. Construct our glorious golem
>>26211249>apparent shift in alignment.there never was an alignment. We are neither good or evil just for sake of it. We were never "good", we are invading and taking over of another realm, that is already a "evil" act. We aren't evil either, we aren't planning on getting more civilians sacrificed. We did what we did because we wanted to take over the fort as soon as possible because there is no way of telling what kind of an attack they will mount on us if we dawdle too long, also we need to save our men.It pisses me off how apparently narrow-minded /tg/ is and can't think beyond black and white. Alignment system was always just a guideline not a law. >>26210950No tunnels. Too much time and man-power requirement. We could use those resources elsewhere.Give the men some time to recover, organize and get ready. We aren't attacking straight away. We can wait for a day.Anyway, before we get back to redding we need to meet Albert. Lets make that our priority for now.
>>26211397>>hurr durr moralfag, sacrificing the souls of kids aint a big deal since it was to get more troops.
We should also meet the new senior thule member and get his name. Also, we should contact the HQ and ask if Siegfried came out of the gate.Also, op you should archive the thread before it get mis-archived>>26211429Your argument might hold a value if it didn't came across as if it's written by a retard.
>>26211454Invading a country is subjective.Killing is mostly bad.Concentration camps where you gas 'undesirables' is the highest point of evil.Sacrificing the souls of a few hundred people, including people vaguely guilty by association is beyond what the nazis did IRL. This wasn't mundane evil. This was an act of Pure Evil. Justifying the sacrifice childrens souls for the sake of the war effort is just really, really weak and lame.
>>26211049>>26211397>>26211309>>26211249>>26211205>>26211429>>26211454Your eyes dart around as various officers mill in all directions. A few of them hone in on you like rockets, but you simply stride towards the command post, the concrete-and-wood structure a fair improvement over its cloth ancestor. The fact that it has an intact radio tower makes it all the better!Your feet carry you across the snow as the men move along in full kit, keeping their masks and vests on as they begin unloading massive amounts of cargo.You find your command post more swamped than you've ever seen it. Designed to accommodate somewhat smaller scale operation, there is a veritable army of about twenty or thirty officers, a sea of upper-ranking staff, men and women alike, clamoring amongst themselves.Which is when a somewhat strained voice pipes up, but a voice you are familiar with. A man with slicked-down hair, neatly combed, turns to face you. Dressed in a simple tuxedo with a black tie, the pin of the Reich is distinct on his dress shirt's collar, the man staring directly at you.His peaked cap glistens atop his head as he clears his throat."Oberst." He says simply, looking to the map, then back to you. "I have had a chance to inspect this miracle metal you promised." He remarks, holding aloft a bar of mithril, which had previously been used to keep the map on the table pinned down."I suspect that you have much more than what Siegfried's reports and your own clerk's updates have provided me, in terms of knowledge." He informs you bluntly, "Though I am surprised that you do not possess more of this metal. From what I have heard, you have not seized control of the 'Mithril' mines, as I believe the metal is called." He remarks, staring at you. All conversation goes quiet, all eyes abruptly on you."Why is this?"
>>26211049Second this. Bergen died saving us from a second assassination attempt! His valiant sacrifice for the Reich will not be forgotten and his memory shall be immortalised in a statue and propaganda for the natives to hear about.Make a mental note to ensure all soldiers present during the ritual understand this story.Once we get to the command post, have someone find Speer.
Do the dwarves control the mines? Can we get a sitrep on the mines status?
>>26211580because I would rather not fight a war on two fronts, we establish a secure foothold and sphere of influence, then we can take the mines
>>26211580"Heil Hitler!""Sir, I was awaiting word from command as to whether this material possessed the same principals in our world that it does in this one. If it didn't, securing the mines would have been a potential waste of military resources and would have left the lines extended."
>>26211638His body being gone is an issue. We'd need a plausible excuse to explain that way, that isn't "he went missing".>>26211205No. ...Maybe
>>26211670The assassin used some kind of explosive, no body was left after the blast, simple.
>>26211670they used foul and evil dark magics that ate the body
>>26211638>>26211630>>26211627You, unfortunately, have no idea who controls the mines. Your intelligence is still being accumulated by Doyle back in Redding, but it's quite possible that dwarves are involved, considering their apparent reputation as miners and smiths. Something Hans has talked to you at length on.They are still, however, under Empire control, as far as you are aware.You elect to deal with Speer's question a bit more tactfully, however, snapping off a quite salute, which he lazily returns."I was awaiting word from command as to whether this material possessed the same principles in our world that it does in this one. I did not wish to waste military resources." You state hurriedly, not breaking your salute. "I would rather not fight a war on two fronts, sir. I thought it best to establish a foothold and a sphere of influence before we take the mines."He simply stares at you, "What are military resources for, if not procuring -this-?" He asks you, tapping the metal bar against the tabletop, the gentle ring of it contrasted by the sharp motion of his strike."This is a miracle metal, and I have been told that there are more miracle metals to be found. Or, at least, suspected to be found." Speer remarks curtly, "You may have impressed the Fuhrer well enough with your report," He states simply, "But I know you to be an engineer. With a metal as light and as sturdy as this, in addition to what I have brought with me," He blinks once, "The new airship design should function flawlessly."He continues to stare at you, seemingly appraising you by your answers. "You are to seize this mine." He orders you, "Seize it so that it may be properly excavated. I was informed you had prisoners to assist in the extraction process for this metal?" He asks.... Well, /had/, yes, but they're extremely dead now.
>>26211746We still have all the POW concentration camp prisoners don't we?Regardless, we can snap up a new labour force by raiding some of the outlying villages or by capturing the Fort.The Star Fort must be completed first. Speer may be important and represent the Fuhrer, but we still have command the military priorities come first.
If I remember right, we need to take Swordhenge & the towns before we can take the mines.>> Local mine upgrades may take time, unless you wish to have your general production factory geared towards producing mining tools (no explosives without a chemical factory). You also will need to secure the mines in question, as the towns interpose between the city itself and the mines. >> Local mine upgrades may take time, unless you wish to have your general production factory geared towards producing mining tools (no explosives without a chemical factory). You also will need to secure the mines in question, as the towns interpose between the city itself and the mines. Lets finish the golem. Then move to take the towns and swordhenge. Speer wants the mines, so lets move towards that goal.And task Intelligence, with aid of Thule to think up a good excuse for how Berg disappeared.
>>26211249>>26211205This works.We should have Thule Mages scout for potential candidates. Maybe study magic a bit ourselves. Magic seems to be their primary advantage over us. So if we boost our magic, things should go a lot more smoothly.
>>26212019Forgot my image
I thought we hit something like +3 for Siegfried? Wiki needs updating.How did the wizard open the gate again? Because we should look for an alternative to satanic sacrifices. Preferably something more efficient. We still have those magic metal supplies right?
>>26211746Sir, while seizing the mines is an operational objective, at this time all of my resources are being put towards eliminating a major enemy force, suspected to be division strength, less than a week's march from our base. We will need all our forces to take the objective, and only then can we begin taking less resource intensive objective such as your mines.Also, can I get a complete breakdown of our forces, or do we have everything there, or more?Because there was revisions to that image previously, based upon what we learned.
>>262131906-10,000 people isn't division strength
>>26212019>>26212032Stop same-fagging your stupid idea.Bergen was not /our/ paladin. He was another faction we had to deal with but he certainly wasn't under our orders.>>26211746Prisoners are not needed, we have paid workers who can do that shit. Heck, taking over the mine would be better if we don't straight up murder everyone and just make a change of ownership. The mines are already worked by someone else, we just have to make sure they work for us.Also, we cannot seize the mine while the enemy fort still stands, we need to take care of it first, once we do, everything else in the area will automatically fall under our influence. That's why we haven't taken over the mines yet and why it is prudent we go on the offensive as soon as possible.
>>26213205Yes it is.Your average brigade is 2-4 battalions, and that's less than 5000 men for sure, and 2+ brigades is a division.
>>2621333310,000–30,000 is a divisionNot 5,000
>>26213846We know for a fact there's at LEAST 6000 men, probably closer to 10000, at the fort. That's a short division at the least.
>>26211746"The prisoners we took are tasked with fortifying the main base. The main mithril mine in the region is about a week's travel from here, and still deep inside enemy territory, next to the capital. With the forces we had until now, it was impossible to take them without critically overstretching our borders. The new reinforcements, however, should change this.Destroying the fort is the highest priority as it poses a large threat and seems to be the main power guaranteeing the baronies loyalty to the Empire. Additionally, it is very likely that they set up an ambush in which we lost part of a scouting force. After doing so, we should be able to take the entire local area over by having the young Baron, who, as you know, is our prisoner, revoking his fealty to the Emperor and becoming our puppet instead. This seems to be the fastest way to take the barony, while minimizing civilian damages and thus ensuring that the populace will not try to contest our rule.We should take a day or two to teach the new soldiers about the situation, the dangers they will be facing and the special strategies we developed to counter them while at the same time preparing the attack. It will march as two forces each taking a village on the way, uniting in front of the actual attack, which will consist mainly of artillery shelling.You see, the plans are long made, and with the new reinforcements we can implement them."
>>26211746We "had" prisoners,but then again we can have some of the people from Redding do it for us or we might be able to "recruit" some of the people from the villages to help us with extraction.Might want to add why we don't have the prisoners anymore.
Suggestions for damage controll for the paladin-captain that went missing. We will use the old and tried tactic of blaming someone else, I here propose that we blame...Siegfried! I mean, everyone that has had to deal with him so far has hated his guts because of his scary dark magic. Lets just try to use a half-lie, that Siegfried went Rogue and the good paladin tried to put him down before he could finish casting his dark spell, sadly the paladin was evaporated in the fight, which ended with us managing to banish Siegfried!
>>26215280We should not paint our own people as untrustworthy, and a soldier going postal will make us look weak. I'd recommend the Imperial assassin story, as it makes them look evil.
>>26215374Meh, blaming suppordinates is standard management procedure :P
>>26211804>>26211895>>26212019>>26212032>>26212302>>26213947>>26215374>>26215280>Sorry about the abrupt quiet, I ended up taking a nap that became, well, a sleep.You look to Speer, contemplating just what to say.""Prisoners are not needed, sir. We have paid workers from the locals that can accomplish what we need-- and the prisoners that we have taken were used for fortification, up until the Gate's opening ritual." He remarks.Speer looks a bit evenly at you, "Ah, yes. I was appraised of the new 'opening acceleration method' devised by Siegfried. A method that has been causing quite a few waves with the command staff back in Berlin." He remarks, tactfully not sharing his own views of it."Regardless, sir, we've been dedicating our forces towards eliminating a major enemy force, suspected to be no less than division-strength in--"You're cut off once more, the engineer waving a dismissive hand at you."Oberst, it is not my concern as to what issues the locals are causing. You are fighting -savages-, Landa." He tells you bluntly, "Even with 'magic', a term I am most leery of utilizing, you have been given more than enough men to crush any force. There is no reason not to conquer this mines.""Precisely, sir!" You remark, feeling a bit of growing frustration. "Thus why we need to level the enemy's main fortress guarding the--""Level?" Speer remarks, looking almost aghast. "The only example we have of the enemy's methods of fortifying an area? Level something so valuable as a pre-built fortress? Absolutely not, Oberst!" He asserts, brows furrowing. "We cannot afford to destroy such a valuable architectural research asset in the name of mere -convenience-!" He murmurs, slowly shaking his head. "Absolutely unacceptable!"
>>26215781>>26213190You currently have an even split of your forces between Redding and the base, with a slightly greater number at the Gate base. There's also a single squad of Wehrmacht down at Riverside, manning the outpost there and overlooking the oil extraction site.
>>26215781I was not aware you had operational command, Herr Speer, but the installation is a military target.As such, I will prosecute it according to current Wermacht doctrine for assault enemy fixed positions.We will take it, leaving as much intact as possible, of course, but I'm sure you know what happens when you assault enemy installations with artillery and mechanized troops.
>>26215805I meant an actual full breakdown of what we have now after the gate activation.I mean, at least by platoon.
>>26215962>>26215969Speer would fix a level gaze on you as you mention his lack of apparent military rank. He's still a politico, albeit, as an engineer, he's more inclined to be "your" politico.Still, you lock gazes, before Speer speaks levelly at you. His gaze doesn't waver, his cap glistening in the light of the command post."I have been kept well appraised of just how destructive an assault with the heavy elements you now possess can be. Thus you must not employ direct artillery upon Fort Starbane. Its usefulness cannot be compromised, especially for the designs I have already been inspired to make."It seemed as if, on the word "designs", the mechanical mind of Hans would be conjured up, the stout man speaking from the sea of officers."Speaking of designs!" He calls out, "I've got the men busy assembling the last parts of the construct. I'll be overseeing final installation personally, but it ought to be ready to run within the hour!"
>>26215969>Will do so once I get back to a proper computer.>Also, apparently got some kind of a glitch ban for spamming "sports". Top Nazi Laughswagen.
>>26216567Before we commit to a costly assault then, I would need to know exactly what you need such a primitive facility for.I will not squander the Reich's lives this early for a simple bauble, but if there is a necessary military reason to leave it intact I understand, Herr Speer.If it is simply something to look good for the cameras, I would think that the supposed "Magic Academy" in the area and the local metropolis would be better, no?
>>26216663My god you're an idiot.We can look for weaknesses, intelligence and all that in an intact fortress. Stop treating Speer as a fucking idiot and do as you're told. He's positively inclined towards us as a fellow engineer, DO NOT FUCK IT UP BECAUSE OF YOUR OBSESSIVE NEED TO WHINE.
>>26216567*Salute*I shall gather the our forces to attack as the earliest convenience then Herr Speer.
>>26216693That isn't whining, that's actual operational concerns. As the overall commander, we need to know what he wants, so we can plan to achieve the goal, and we also need to appraise him how many men we can afford to lose before our situation becomes untenable.Given our situation, we cannot afford to lose entire companies needlessly.Thus, we need to know exactly what he wants, so we can plan properly to mimimize losses and retain whatever Speer wants.
>>26216663Stop.For the love of God, stop. All you're doing is pissing Speer off, we cannot afford to make an enemy in Berlin. He could be our big break as well, if he carries back a favorable report to the Fuhrer, then we can appropriate far more resources for our campaign.
>>26216567Very well. We can earn some credit from him.Any way we can do a light (anti infantry) art strikes instead?
>>26216763Haven't you been reading? He obviously wants that fortress intact so he can study it.
>>26216786Yes, but if it's anthropological or some other thing that can be done with a city or other building, why waste the men? If it's specific to the military of the nation we're fighting, then he just needs to tell us.
>>26216764We can't afford Speer as an enemy, but we cannot trust his strategic insight either. He considers the enemy savages which will affect his decision making, and we have already nearly died to an assassin constructed of the magic he is handwaving.He may be an engineer like us, but he is not concerned with the overall military operation like us. His goals are /not/ aligned with ours, and we are going to have to tread carefully as a result.
>>26217055Because it is a military construct, insights to what kind of thought and process that goes in their fortresses can be valuable as well from a military perspective. And in any case, it's clear that he isn't going to budge on the issue, it's best to avoid annoying him further.
Lets explain the assassination attempt. Tell him that it had some unintended consequences.>>26217055This is the 1940s, not just in Nazi Germany, but for the most part of the world, life is cheap. Read up on the massacres of the great war. The lives of subordinates are not that important. Just stress that it is not that easy to replace casualties, and that our current actions have been to conserve as much manpower as possible for the time where they are really needed.
>>26217191This is 1939. And, really? No. Germany had a pretty modern army, which is the opposite of the idea of having cheap, expendable troops.I think we should let him see some crazy magic when we can.Getting spec ops & snipers to infiltrate/cover the fort, followed by a mobilization of forces could work. Otherwise we should just take Swordhenge & the towns, since that has the mithril.
As someone on IRC said, we can give a half-truth. We took our good paladin friend to our base. Paladin realized our only true sorcerer was about to perform a fucked up ritual. While we knew about the ritual, we didn't know the actual implications.Paladin got pissed, Siegfried abruptly started a ritual that killed him. Using this excuse would admit a fucked up ritual happened at all, and that we may not be able to use it again without suffering from political fallout.
>>26216663>>26216693>>26216715>>26216764>>26216767>>26217055>>26217149>>26217065>>26217191You're torn on how to tread, but a thought occurs to you. A thought that is one part survival instinct, two parts common sense. Speer isn't budging on this issue, but you decide to raise a point regardless."Reinforcements may not be as forthcoming as other fields, Herr Speer, but I shall do my best to secure the fortress. However, I feel it might prove imperative to reassure you of the danger the sorcery of the locals poses."He peers at you keenly, gesturing for you to go on. You hold your hand up, the flesh seemingly healed, but still reddened."An assassin, aided by magic, attacked my command staff, maiming several, and slaying a squad of good men." You inform him plainly. "These locals are savages, yes, but like savages they shall fight without honor."Speer nods at this, thinking for a moment as he contemplates your hands."Hmm." He pauses, "Unique. I shall want their school-- this academy of theirs-- intact as well." He adds, smiling simply. "Your resources should be sufficient to claim both areas, as well as the mines, yes?" He asks simply, smiling.
>>26218966We'll do our best Herr Speer and try to keep the city intact as much as possible however I must remind you it is a military fortification and I rather keep good men alive if possible
>>26218966Calmly explain that we still don't know the full extent of their capabilities, and we're still outnumbered. We need construction of our air golem finished. Fortifications done to Redding. Expansions to our base, including the star fort construction. Repairing the radio tower in redding.Then we can take out the fort (so we don't expose ourselves while taking swordhenge), followed by the towns and city.
>>26218966We'll do what we can.If you need the fort intact, or reasonably so, I will need to modify our assault plans, and have the troops practice. A deliberate storming of a facility of that size against so large a foe will be quite an undertaking, so some time for proper preparations and rehearsals will be needed.
>>26218966Once our preparations are done (Finishing Air golem and whatever else we want) then we can go about capturing places "intact".
We can explain the effect magic has had on the battlefield, that the powerscale isn't as simple as Earth. Mages being able to do stuff like stop artillery. Ambushing recon. Straight up healing magic with a simple touch on a person
On a side note we should really find those notes that Siegfried left behind as it might shed some light on his "disappearance"
Seems like we have Songbird coming up, he could be a gamechanger. Ask him what kind of makeover he wants to do, we need to know much troopswe will need to safeguard it once it has been taken. Lets stress that we have seen how little men with pointy sticks can do against machine guns and artillery, magic is something that we dont fully understand, yet. Mages are not invincible thou, and can be taken out with the weapons of the Reich.We should scout out the areas around it, the paladin said that there were undead creatures around there, might be something else out there too.
>>26218537>>26218829>>26219058>>26219464>>26219553>>26219577>>26219748>>26220020>>26220379You feel the disconnect gap between this newcomer and yourself stronger than ever. You have weathered the worst that these savages have thrown upon you, and not for the first time do you recognize just how veterans of foreign theaters must feel when new officers arrive.It is not a happy feeling.You contemplate how to form your words, the officers already beginning to resume their tasks. You step a bit closer, "Herr Speer," you gesture to the mithril, "I will not deny the value of the goals you seek. I will have my men do their best, but even with the numbers I have, I will need to prepare to take the fortress and academy intact. The air machine--""Ah. The golem. Yes." Speer looks over to Hans, interrupting you once more. "I would like to see this golem you are completing." Hans gives a nod, before looking to you in a sign of respect."If the Oberst finds that acceptable, then certainly, I'll be happy to give you a showing as we finish it up." He remarks, waiting for your approval for Speer to see it.Speer himself brushes off the gesture, looking back to you as you regain his attention. "We need to fortify Redding as well, not to mention expand our base, including finishing up the star fort. Our radio tower in Redding took damage from some feedback and--" Speer simply nods."I expected delays. Doyle made such evident in his reports. He spoke in mixed tones of your efforts here." Speer looks you up and down, your mind spun off in different directions. In one direction, you're playing chess with Speer. In the other, you're planning how to explain the Knight Commander's demise."The new troops will need time to be trained." You explain, "As well as for an assault on a fortress such as what we expect to need. The enemy's magical abilities range wildly-- they can stop artillery, freely ambush recon units, they can even heal with--"
>>26221103"A touch, yes, amongst other things." Speer remarks airily, waving a dismissive hand. "I have already taken some steps in accounting for this. I will be moving my trailer and setting up a private encampment outside of the southern wall of your perimeter. The star fort will require only the labor of the locals under your employ for now-- the more advanced elements will be handled by the engineers I have brought with me." He states to you simply, "However, I would caution you not to dally, Oberst. The Reich has need of this miracle metal, as well as magical capabilities. Patience is a commodity that the war effort has left us in short supply of. If you prove as competent as your superiors thought you would be, however, I am certain that there will be..."He pauses for a moment, smiling. "Perks to your eventual return to Berlin. An officer who can spearhead an entire invasion in a foreign land has much value, and there are a number of very personable businessmen and celebrities that would be eager to meet such a fine, upstanding war hero."
>>26221139I recognize this is Albert Speer, Architect of the Third Reich, but all I can think right now is how best to geek this fucker and where to dump the remains.
A half-truth is better than an outright lie. Remember when Mr. Paladin did a lie detector thing? Without Siegfried, we couldnt resist it anyway.I think a good way of explaining magic to Speer is this. In our world, magic faded away, if it existed at all, but we developed our technology. In this world, magic continues to thrive, so technology at the seemingly most basic levels hasn't advanced.Once we get all the things finished, we should go for the Star Fort. Then we can go west. Bltizkrieg it, even.
Hey the nazi quest, and speer is here.Reminder of a possible future project thought of a while ago, a dual railway pipeline Bascule railbridge, that could double or triple our input output to and fro the gate.If possible can we ask speer about the feasibility of it with the discovery of mithril?
>>26221614>Then we can go west. Bltizkrieg it, even.We could always go east to. You never know what you'll find in the east. . .
>>26222221Right now, there's a fort in the way. For now, we should be happy the east is relatively idle.
>>26222221We're German. Germany has not had the best track record with the east.
>>26222269Not with the near east at least
>>26222269We kicked ass in russia World War 1 though.
This is something I mentioned on IRC, but depending on how indoctrinated our Baron is, we could make him force enemy forces within the region stand down. Or at least some of them.
>Switching IRC channel to irc.Rizon.net #fantasyland for convenience.>>26221216>>26221614>>26222174>>26222221>>26222252>>26222269>>26222305>>26222333>>26222802You nod to Hans, giving him permission to show Speer the construct. Hans simply smiles and nods back, the Reich architect looking between you two with a raised eyebrow.Your tank expert beams as he gestures for you both to follow."Then let's get a move on!" He remarks cheerily, leading you along the grounds, heading towards the machine shop-slash-repair depot situated near the hangars of the crude airstrip. Hundreds of men already were moving about, various support staff and soldiers filling every nook and cranny available. The barracks would be overflowing just with regular foot traffic, let alone come nightfall. You'll need to plan a number of new innovations.Speer follows behind you and Hans as you make your way towards the shop's exposed entrance, the garage doors peeled back to reveal the various machines and vehicles under repairs and work. Massive engines being assembled and disassembled, the mechanics here clearly overworked and undermanned, but doing as all Germans do: Persevere.However, perhaps most interesting was what was situated towards the rear of the machine shop. The massive construct from before, its metal body laid upon its back, hundreds of parts strewn out across the retrofitted aircraft hangar.Its features are expressionless, its domed eyes empty of human features as the men scurry about the large machine, the various Stuka parts being welded into and onto it. Huge assemblies of gears and axles, its chestplate peeled open to reveal an assembly of arcane symbols and engine parts. Pieces of paper and parchment, intermingling occult symbols and mechanical designs, were strewn all about it. The mechanics seemed to simply be doing exactly what was written on the papers, with no obvious understanding, if their murmured curses and confusion were any indicator.
>>26224175Hans alone seemed confident in what was being assembled. He'd grin up above as the engines of four Stukas, massive motors, were laid within the torso of the construct. Speer would stare with unabashed fascination at it all."How does it work?" Speer inquired. Hans would grin at the question, whipping around as a fresh arc of sparks resulted from the fusion of important gears with the frame of the metal machine."Four Stuka engines-- apparently fueled by an internal reservoir of diesel. There's some sort of magic that helps increase engine efficiency that Siggy worked up. Reduce the fuel consumption, so this thing can run for days without refueling." The stout man remarks, beaming. You see Alphonse straddling the monster's head as some sort of lead-lined object is lowered into it."And tha--" It's Speer's turn to be interrupted, Hans chuckling gleefully."The heart, of course!" He remarks, "Magic, some sort of special platinum gewgaw meant to fuel the magic that was originally meant to power it. Except now... Now? Now it'll be stronger than it ever could have been! Lightweight, flight-capable..." He'd laugh again, "It'll be a messy day for the enemy! Especially seeing as I had them include -this- in the parts order."
>>26224198He gestured to what looked like a pair of machine guns. MG30s, massive belts of ammunition already feeding into them. The man simply grinned, the machine guns looking to have already been welded together."I've got plans for this weapon, sirs." He remarks, tapping his head, before thinking. "But! Plans mean little if you don't have the right tools. Especially for yourself, Oberst." He remarks, fishing for something in his pocket. It was a ring: A small one, a gold band with an onyx gemstone on top, and an engraved platinum plate-- tiny-- on top of that. The ring itself was fat on the head, but it looked solid enough."Siegfried said he found this. Some kind of control item or somethin' for the construct. It'll respond to your orders so long as you wear this ring, no matter where'n you are." He states, holding it out a bit gingerly, as if it might explode if one talked about it too loudly.There was a yell from Alphonse as a hiss of pneumatics kicked in, the construct's chestplate swinging closed as the man gave a thumbs up. The machine guns were quickly moved onto the forearm, Hans moving you aside as a rivet gun was wheeled up, the machine guns being riveted onto the construct's arm, ammunition belts being fed inside to some positively massive hoppers from the looks of them. Custom-tooled.Hans would grin, "You've only seen the half of what this thing has!" He remarks cheerily, "But enough! She ought to be ready to activate now." He tells you, Speer staring between you and the ring Hans is offering to you, a curious expression on his face.Hans laughs, "Simply slip the ring on and start giving orders! She ought to come to life, according to Siegfried, and work from there!"
>>26224224You simply smile to yourself, looking over to Speer. "You know, there was an idea I had, recently, of a bridge to help speed the rate of transfer across the Gate." You mention, seemingly at random, a twinkle in your eye at the thought of just what might be about to come.A project quite some time in the making, one of many to come, you suspect. You take the ring, slipping it on, feeling a subconscious bond already beginning to form between you and this machine. Between you and this 'golem.'>What do you order, Oberst?
>>26224247Arise soldier of the Reich! Arise as be ready for you shall be the instrument of our wrath upon our foes.(Then inwardly giggle as a childhood dream is realized.)
Tyr Riese, achtung!
>>26224224I actually thought of a good name for this Golem The MEA-1, Magie Eisen Alptraum Magical Iron Nightmare
>>26224683IMO it should be something that can be used casually as well. "Mea 1" is eh
>>26224914and stg-44 is any better or Kar-98?
>>26224961"Car 98" "Mauser 98""Es Tee Gee 44""Em Pee 44"
>>26224683I'm going to have to disagree, and say that that's a pretty unattractive moniker in any language.the acronym isn't too bad though.
>>26224334>>26224382>>26224523You look at the construct, raising your hand, clenching it into a fist as the raw skin cracks slightly under the gesture."Tyr Riese, achtung!" You announce, "Arise, soldier of the Reich! Arise and be ready, for you shall be the instrument of wrath upon our foes!"It is at that moment that all eyes are on you. Why are you speaking so dramatically? Why does it feel... Right to do so?"S--" You don't manage the next few words as the massive statue shifts before you. Laid out upon its back, the massive machine begins to arise. The roar of four Stuka engines in unison is downright deafening, before abruptly falling quiet. Its domed eyes shift from left to right as it stares at you with its right eye, its inhuman head unmoving.The roar of the engines ought to be much louder, but contained within its frame, it's barely noticeable. You watch its hands clench and unclench as its legs shift, the massive Stuka wings collapsing behind its back, its body slowly rising to full height within the hangar.A massive, towering height indeed. It stares down at you as it rises to its full height, its mithril-plated body shining slightly. Its body is unmarred by combat, the whole creation looking almost flawless. You watch the machine guns strapped to its one forearm click and rattle as the ammunition belts appear to feed themselves through.It stands. Speer simply smiles up at it as he puts a hand on your shoulder."It appears the Fuhrer was right to put such resources into this mission." He tells you, looking over to you as the large construct's eyes narrow, shifting from a shade of red to black. It stares directly at Speer as he steps closer to you, its body language tensing up.
>>26225911"We shall want a hundred of these." He tells you simply, "A thousand, even. Such engineering marvels... To think of what terror they might inspire in the enemy, and to think of what they could accomplish in industry! Massive, metal men!" He remarks, sounding almost giddy, smiling. "We must take those mithril mines now moreso than ever!">Oberst must get some bedrest, unfortunately. He shall be back within five hours or so, most likely! Shall do his best to update if the thread is still present. For now, feel free to plan base expansions, upgrades, new goals for Redding and the invasion efforts, so-forth.>Thanks again for participating!
>>26225911>>26225948Speer is right, it is pretty fucking cool.
>>26225911>>26225948I vote we call it the Jaeger Pentecost
>>26225911looks like we need to explain who's who to the golem. on that note do we know its mental capability's? Like do we say "everyone with a swastika is a friend" or lead it around base letting it grow familiar with the troops
>>26229455Speaking of swastikas, I think the golem needs a bitching paint-job. All black with a single white circle inside a red circle, and a black swastika inside that. All enemies shall fear the wraith of the Reich!
>>26230143A nice paintjob sounds like a good idea.
Since the last thread I've been thinking about what happened to Siegfried.He seemed to grasp the use of magic quite quickly, going to the point of being able to redirect the energies of two mages and null a spell in the short amount of time it took for the baron to march over here and considering his appearance when he was seen.>And just like that, Siegfried vanishes, his robes and entire body turning into a black blur, which promptly speeds into the open mouth of the Gate...It looks like our dear old friend as made a deal with the devil, or some other dark being. Anyway, thinking about strategy. We should capture fort starbane and move to Swordhenge. After we control Swordhenge we can get the baron to sign an official decoration of surrender to the third Reich.
>>26222802Don't forget Farnsworth is gonna be our Hitler Youth posterboy and the model for all future indoctrinations of the reigion.
>>26230474I think we should use this strategy to take a large part of the barony at once, securing primary and secondary targets in one campaign. The units are to march through the two northern villages, taking them and leaving a few guys as garrison (2 squads each). Then, they proceed close to the fort, regroup, scout, and take the fort. Afterwards, we could probably ask the Baron to surrender, as the Imperial Fort seems to be the force ensuring his loyalty to the Empire.If he refuses, we send two small scouting parties to the academy and the mithril mine, and depending on the size of the local forces we decide how we split our units. A few guys stay at the fort, and we continue our attack as shown on the map.If we find something extremely interesting at the Fort, we halt the attack there and proceed later.
>>26230630Forgot to mention, we should bring engineers in case we need to build bridges across the rivers.
>>26230630>>26230649A worthy idea kamarade.Things of note:Do the nautillus shipyards have any enemy artillery of concern? We should be prepared to deal with bombardment over the river by siege weapon either from boat or port.If feasible of sending teams of snipers in advance to seal of the western front before the battle commences, and anywhere else overlooking the region so as to pick of any pesky messengers or enemy commanders. The less the empire knows of our conquest, the better, and without proper communication the and leadership their forces will crumble.We should be wary of the possibility of forces from the south or the east, and be prepared to deal with them as such. This is why snipers and advance scouts are arguably going to win the day.I propose an alternative plan. Based of off Rommel's Infantry attacks and uses a feint attack and retreat.One moderate sized group shall approach from Redding, this group shall be very flashy, backed by noisy vehicles, yelling and shouting the throwing grenades, and give every impression the whole of our army is headed straight for swordhenge.Meanwhile, two much larger but more descreet army groups flank from the south while the largest prepares to secure fort Starbane (this group should have ambphibious capabilities if possible, as well as some artillery capability). Speed and silence will be the names of these groups. They should not even exist in the enemies knowledge.If all goes well, our "main body" attacking through the towns will lure out the enemy to attack, wherein which we can feint a retreat and further lure them to redding where we will crush them in numbers as water dashes against a stone. Our flanking groups will then take the primary targets via pincer manuever while the enemy is distracted elswhere, and then we can close the fist and mop up what remains.
>>26230630Too ambitious. We don't know whether we're at battalion or brigade group status ATM, in addition, this is WW2.I think you underestimate how difficult bridging such a span without AVLBs, MSBs, or ACROW will be.
>>26230908Are there no existing bridges connecting starbane to swordhenge or the academy?Are the rivers to treacherous for even simple infantry in inflatable boats?If such is the case, all the better. We can cut off starbane much easier, and focus the brunt of our efforts on the swordhenge and the rest.
>>26230908I was thinking about a pontoon bridge, although we would need to get our hands on boats.
>>26230826Advance scouts and hidden snipers are a definite.Their usefulness in the winter war and in normandy against the allies speaks for itself.
>>26230630I think we should just go for things one at a time.Once we take the towns and Starbane, the Academy will be isolated. Therefore, they'd be more willing to cooperate. We know nothing about the Academy except for one very important thing---it has two Magi. It's not a group to be taken lightly. Ideally it'd be best to pressure them into cooperating with us.Which can probably happen, with our stores of magical metal. Imagine getting some wehrmacht and thule society mages taught by maguses.
>>26230826How do the Imperials communicate? Horse and messenger?Remember the one guy Gunther encountered at the mansion who was able to talk to someone far away, like magical radio.
>>26231472I think it's reasonable to believe that such a large fort has mages to communicate, but snipers cannot hurt.
Thinking of a different subject. We will need to test the golem before to commit it to the field. Specificity now fast can it land and take off. Because I think the best use for it is to fly into battle, land, cut down targets with its machine guns and take off again before the enemy can react.
>>26232922why wouldn't it be cutting down opponents with its machine gun mid flight? i sort of imagined it being used as a hyper mobile harrier unit, strafing ground troops and taking out important targets too quickly to be zero'd in on. i feel like landing could be dangerous for it no matter how quickly it can take off. just wasted time, unless its engaging a particularly powerful unit, like some kind of wizard, or enemy golems
>>26233780We should only be applying the golem at key points, usually in flanking maneuvers, to overwhelm and route the enemy into preset firing lanes. Remember, this is an essential weapon that, while always shocking, will only terrify them two or three times until they adapt.
>>26232922Knowing the ammunition capacity would also be important, and we should have some engineers dedicated to its maintenance, reloading the MGs and changing their barrels mid-battle.>>26234343If we use the golem in a battle, we should use it as long as it's effective, and even when they start adapting, it will still mow down enemies with its MGs. We should try learning about Imperial tactics. Due to its size, there should be veterans in Redding, and 30 silver coins should loosen their tongue. The positions of mages and commanders are of course the most interesting, but also combat formations, whether they use cavalry and artillery, how and where they set up ambushes, and some non-combat facts, like the chain of command of the legion.
>>26234343Thinking about terror. The legion at starbane like professional troops, if they also have experience against the undead they would likely to be resistant against terror attacks.
>>26234650They have experience with the undead. With luck, they won't have experience with a giant metal bird thing ripping them apart from the sky with technology they can't even dream of.
>>26234752That's another problem. When we kill them off, the undead plague will spread. Maybe we can subjugate them, while leaving enough alive to continue dealing with the plague. We need to know whether coontaining the undead is more important to their commanders than loyalty to the Empire. If the legion and the command staff consists mainly of locals, this is likely true, if not, we cannot be sure.We also should try catching a few of the undead, they will be most interesting for our scientists.
>>26234752Or screaming death explosions from above
>>26234636>30 pieces of silverCaiaphas?
>>26235081Well, if they're more loyal to their Baron, they may stand down at his request
Remember last time how the mages were able to levitate those shells in midair and it took a lucky lightning bolt tank to blow them up?We did get those timed and proximity fuzed shells yes?
>>26236004Timed shells should be available, but I don't believe that proximity fused artillery shells exist.Timed shells give me a nice idea: If the enemy has a normal infantry formation we open the battle with timed rounds, all set to the same time. If five salvos explode at once they will be crushed.
Maybe we can requisition the cannons off a Bf 109 and rig them to the golem with ground attack shells.
>>26236003After being humiliated as our prisoner for so long, and having killed off most of the nobility, will they even acknowledge is authority?We don't even know if the duke or the greater empire has revoked him.
>>26238455>The smoky glass of his beaked mask obscured his eyes, and his leather bodysuit was complimented by the curves and subtle bulges of the armor sewn within.>"The Emperor shall keep his promise?" He asked the man.>"The Emperor always abides by his word." The stranger replied, their voice oddly monotone, almost genderless. "Your daughter shall be freed of Imperial custody and a new Estate bequeathed to her.">"Good." The aging noble remarked, clutching his blade in one hand now, assuming a classic warrior's pose.That may have been the duke.I think it's time we finally confronted Farnsworth about all he knows of the heirarchy of the land. We've let that linger on far enough. Surely he knows his own father and his families position, any possible successors to his estate, ect.
>>26238869Thinking about it, I suppose they have already installed a replacement for Farnsworth but considering his attitude I guess his advisors liked to puppet him.So don't really count on people following what Farnsworth says.Still I would like to get him to sign a surrender document in full view of his former advisor's when we get back to Swordhenge. If we tell him that he will no longer be a prisoner and he will be allowed to live in useless luxury in some estate of his if he signs the document I suspect he would jump at the chance.
>>26239385Didn't we offer useless luxury to the nobles, but ended up sacrificing them?I'm still particular to the concept of him being the model for youth indoctrination in the land. If we can mold their most spoiled, arrogant, ignorant brats into a shining example of hitlerjugend, then we can mold any child here into the future of the reich.It's a bit of a pipedream, but maybe one day we can even send him off to an academy back home for further training and indoctrination.
>>26239525That sounds like an awesome idea, much better than letting him rot and spoil (even worse than he was before).
>>26239525Actually, it was two houses. The other...10 or 11 families are still on our side.
>>26226023>WE ARE CANCELIN' THE ALLIED APOCALYPSE>Bwaaaaaaaah>NAZI ROBOT PUNCHING>>26229455>>26230143You contemplate giving your new machine a new painting. Something that Hans and Alphonse already seem inclined towards, if the cans of paint laying about are any indicator.You look at your machine, the ring on your finger seeming to throb with power, its eyes staring down at you, then in all directions. There's a little clicking noise that comes from within its curved head, followed by the low whine of some kind of horn."What's it saying?" Speer asks, as the large machine turns about in place, head tilting this way and that. It's unusually fast for something so large."I... don't know." You admit, blinking once or twice. "Machine!" You announce, "You are a servant of the Reich. These are allies!" You indicate, to which the machine instantly whirls around to face you once more, resting on its heavy knuckles and feet, slouching slightly. It slowly nods at your order.Well! That was simple. Ish. Considering everything you've done to get this infernal thing working, it's nice that things are cooperating to this point.>>26230474>>26230630>>26230511>>26230649>>26230826You contemplate your options. Your intelligence is extremely spotty on Nautilus Shipyards, or, in fact, anything beyond your territories. Your engagement in the west was, to say the least, an example of just how little you fully know. You've dispatched groups to head to the mines, but you won't likely hear back from them for at least a week at this rate, maybe longer.>>26231023All bridges you currently know of have been outlined on the map.There are, interestingly enough, surprisingly few... That appear to be publicly known of, at least.
>>26242183>>26231472>>26232408You have very little intelligence on the Imperials as a whole, unfortunately. Your efforts with Baron Farnsworth have yielded little in the way of applicable intelligence. He is still just a child, and the Imperial military apparently rather vast.
>>26232922>>26233780>>26234343>>26234636What sort of tests would you like to arrange for your golem? You could entrust such testing to one of your science staff, if you desire, though you could always give it a more practical field test."How much ammunition does it have?" You ask, to which Alfred pipes up, beaming."Plenty-- about two thousand rounds per barrel. Custom magazines we patched together from some scrap steel." He asserts, "We also included some, ah... additional weaponry. Fun little assets, should you run into anything heavier than infantry." He laughs, "We could put some of the men towards dedicated research and building, sir, but our mechanics are overworked as it is, Oberst."Speer nods, "I had expected as such. I brought a number of engineering personnel in my entourage to assist as required with my own developments and projects here." He informs you.>>26234636>>26234650>>26234752>>26235081>>26235738>>26235742>>26236003Doyle and, up until now, Gunther have been coordinating in Redding in order to procure additional intelligence on just how the Empire operates on the whole. The lack of local intelligence is unfortunate, but likely to be expected considering the apparent scale of the nation in question.>>26236121>>26236004You do, in fact, have a number of timer-based shells available. There are also a smattering of prototype radio-based proximity shells, but they are extremely few in number, and carefully guarded by the artillerymen on base.>>26237486If you wish, you could request for Alfred to design just that to be equipped on the golem.
>>26242647>>26238455>>26238869>>26239385You could, if you wish, have Farnsworth pulled in. At the very least, you could put him to work in trying to manipulate the locals into surrender. Assuming, again, that Farnsworth is a respected figure that the surrender thereof would be recognized by. Of course, once more, your lack of intelligence on the Empire hampers you. The loss of Gunther, who was previously your senior military expert on the Empire, complicates matters.
>>26242647We might as well run it through its paces. Things like strength, flight, speed, and accuracy.
We have magic stuka golems (note stuka) and are preparing for an all out assault, have been here for months with a primitive airfielf, and STILL don't have even a single darned aircraft?Next supply we're getting a biplane. Even if it's the cheapest crop duster and we have to pay out of our own pocket. We'll need aerial reconnaissance.
>>26239620>>26239584>>26239525From your last update, Farnsworth was much more pliable now than he previously had been, though he remains in the village of Riverside. He may be further indoctrinated yet, in fact.You offered the nobles a number of luxuries, as well as the mages. Though your renovations have been mostly industrial and to your own keep, they appear to be in line still, barring the two families that were plotting against your rule. Plotting that has, indeed, seen them sacrificed.
>>26242665I don't think Farnsworth should be used in such a manner at this point.What could be of great use is at least anything he knows about his own lineage and royalty, no matter how small. But, if even that is beyond "applicable intelligence" I'm keen on simply continuing his indoctrination and what little uses he has proven so far (assisting gabriel in translating and simple messenger boy).
>>26242682How would you wish to run it through its paces? What particular tests would you wish to enact to test those variables, or would you prefer to leave that to your science staff?>>26242688You did order four Stukas through, but the issue was that they were used to construct your golem. A very powerful golem, if appearances are to judge. It simply stands idle, seemingly purring as the engines within it rumbled.>>26242740Gabriella is hard at work deciphering the local language, as well as prying what she can from Farnsworth in the process. You could likely order for her to find out more about his lineage and fellow royals, if you desire. Indoctrination has, as always, been an overarching goal in her research with the village of Riverside.
>>26242929Perhaps we can arrange a meeting with Farnsworth in Riverside at some point to ask ourselves, see if he's ready to play ball with us. I personally feel as though we're delegating what is going to be the Poster child for Nazi Supremacy in Fantasyland too much. we can combine that into a general check on the refinery and Riverside.
Since Beregen's armor was left behind once his body was consumed, I'm assuming our translation ring is somewhere near the gate. Have someone search the area for it and bring it to us. Failing that, have the mages under our employ craft another one (or even a dozen for our more important allies). Inability to understand the locals isn't good.
>>26243136I wonder what'd happen if we put a translation ring on the Golem?
>>26243023You could do so now, if you wish, whether it be having Farnsworth meet you in Riverside's garrison, or having Farnsworth brought to the Gate campsite.>>26243136>>26243316You look over the machine, only to notice that a few of the newly arriving officers have crowded around the flank of the repair shop. It seems that you and Speer have procured a number of onlookers. An effective retinue! Though that causes you to briefly flash back to the assassination in Redding, and the accumulation of officers that preceded the assassination.You look over to a lowly lieutenant."There is a suit of mithril armor and a weapon laid out." You gesture towards the direction of the Gate, looming over the encampment. "Near that, there is a ring. Retrieve the ring and bring it here." You order.The man hesitates before saluting, hurrying off at your order, upon recognizing your obvious superiority in rank.
Would it be better to melt the armour down and repurpose it or scrub it of emblems and keep it for personal use?Or, y'know, just ship it to the Fuhrer to try and gain some more sway back home.
>>26244711I think the people of Redding would recognize Beregen's armor, emblems or no, if we decided to keep it for our own, and it'd put a damper on our official story of 'he died saving us from assassins'. why don't we ship it home to the Fuhrer, give him a trophy to show off. or, heck, we could bury the armor in place of Beregen, get back to the morally ambiguous Nazis we were before.
>>26245055The Fuhrer does love ancient history...lets send both the armour and and sword back to him during the next opening.(It'll also be good protection against any assassination attempts if he wears it...)
>>26245055Since other paladins can likely detect lies, let's expand 'Died saving us from assassins' to 'He and several of our soldiers were killed by a mage'. We don't have to tell them the mage was ours. Leave specific details out, and it's technically not a lie.
>>26245408...Then again, it's Hitler. The guy's got charisma but has fuck all for brains when it comes to military strategy, and whatever gains he brought about (economy, industry and sciences) were caused by programs that would fall apart in the long term. Let's keep the armour for ourselves unless we can get it to a commander that knows what the fuck he's doing.
>>26245552This is why I think that, if push comes to shove we can give a half-truth."One of our mages went rogue, deciding to perform a ritual on their own accord. A ritual that had consequences I knew nothing of. Berg charged at the mage but was slain."
>>26244711>>26245055>>26245408>>26245552>>26246419I think one of the ideas that was mentioned before was to hand the armour back the the temple as they probably have collective ownership of weapons and armour. Well, the worse thing we could no now is to simply not attack. We don't have enough space for the new solders and food will become a problem one the rations that they come with run out. I think >>26230826has the best plan of attack. >>26242647Perhaps we let Speer's own engineers work with the golem at the moment. I guess he was going to judge us as incompetent if we didn't show him it. We should see what the golem can do with the weapons we got and work towards plans to produce more then to keep giving it different weapons though.Anyway there is one thing I am curious about mithril, can it be alloyed? Can we strengthen the steel we have by adding mithril? Or is it something that needs to be relativity pure in order to display its desirable properties?
Actually, before we do anything with armour, perhaps we should do some stress testing with explosives. It can certainly stop swords and bullets, but if the chest plate alone can stop panzerfausts and AP shells, we're going to become the most important man in the Reich.
>>26249175You could alloy from a cost-perspective maybe, but steel will probably just weaken the mithril.On the other hand, you can try introducing carbon, nitride or other impurities into the mithril, as if it were steel. We have metallurgists here IIRC.
>>26250656>but steel will probably just weaken the mithril.Conversely it could strengthen the steel. If we're going to use mithril in bulk for building projects, using it in it's purest form might not be cost productive and waste resources.>On the other hand, you can try introducing carbon, nitride or other impurities into the mithril, as if it were steel.Also a good idea.We should continue to look for any mages or blacksmith's in the region who might now more about its properties, as well as allowing Speer to continue his research. If possible we should send some samples of both mithril ore and metal to metallurgists back home.
Seeing as how the G-41 semi-auto rifle doesn't exist, maybe we could requisition some Mondragon 1907s?
>>26230228>>26230143Less the wrath of the Reich, more it's glory!Wrath is good too.Would be cool if it could look like this.
>>26242929We could take the golem southeast of our base (it appears to be far away enough from civilization for spies to not see) and order it to attempt flight. If it manages to take off without much trouble, we could proceed to test flight speed. Do we have anything we could install in it to record its top speed? If not, any pilots or other soldiers who have experience estimating flight speed?For accuracy, we could have a few of our men paint a large target on the ground and gauge how well it hits the center. Perhaps even build some fake balsawood buildings and such to test its ability to target specific structures.As for strength... well, I suppose we could start by having it try to uproot some of the trees nearby.
>>26257734Apologies, I meant southwest. Don't want to cause the people in Riverside to think a monster is attacking, after all.
We should try to get some reports on the following:>Farnsworth's education and cooperation>Chain of Command of the Legion>Tactics of the Legion>Communication within the Legion>Their anti-air capabilities. If they have ballistae to take down dragons or other large flying beasts we need to take care of the golem when attacking enemy fortifications>Is the Legion a force consisting of locals or foreign soldiers>Does the baron hold any authority over them?>Does anyone know about uncharted bridges>Who controls the mithril mines>How well are they defended?>Full sitrep and list of all troopsAlso:>Tell the people of Redding that the Paladin was killed fighting a mad sorceror (no lie)>There should be travellers in Redding who know the north well. Attach one to each unit when attacking.>Have the metallurgists try mithril alloys or fine someone with knowledge about them and inform us and Speer about the results when they are available (>>26250720)>An experienced captain should brief and train the new troops. Tell them to be wary of ambushes, archers and mages, melee fighters are only dangerous with mithril armor. Make sure they are careful when not knowing the enemy, and tell them that the locals are not just primitives throwing with sticks and stones>We really need to expand the barracks at the gate base. We should build the planned starfort barracks early>Test the golem extensively (>>26257734)>Get on our way to talk to the baron if he seems to be any help at all
>>26258469>Tell the people of Redding that the Paladin was killed fighting a mad sorceror (no lie)Who says we have to lie?We can always tell them the "whole truth", that he died a noble death defending his people and "furthering" the cause of the Reich from a wicked sorceror bent on destroying us all.Speaking of which, ask redding if they know who would've been his sucessor to his position, if any.
>>26258469Additionally:>The hired mages should produce rings if I remember correctly. How many do we have now?>Make sure the new mages learn their art. They should be given Siegfrieds notes and a translation ring and sent to the hired ones to train. I'd like to read the notes ourself when we have the time.>I believe some of the new apprentices should specialize on their talents. A few defensive mages to protect our normal soldiers would be nice>Have you thought about having our weapons enchanted?>>26258606That's what I meant, tried to keep it short.
>>26258469I'll second all of these, but I feel that this one in particular is very important. >An experienced captain should brief and train the new troops. Tell them to be wary of ambushes, archers and mages, melee fighters are only dangerous with mithril armor. Make sure they are careful when not knowing the enemy, and tell them that the locals are not just primitives throwing with sticks and stones.The captain should also explain the local political situation to them. Basically conducting a full intel and ROE briefing.
So I'm presuming we have footage of the ritual yes? For potential use and posterity.I mean, something that big and untested surely we wouldve been filming it.
>>26258642>Enchanted Weapons7.5cm KwK L/48 Armor Penetration +20mm10.5cm leFH 18 Area of Effect: Freeze 5 seconds.9mm MP40 Bleeding x2
>>26258956Officers cap: +2 charismaThinking pipe: +1 tactician
>>262589568.8cm FlaK 36 Dragon Slayer (DraK?)
Speaking of enchantments, if we haven't already used Siegfried's fuel consumption reducing spell on our other vehicles, we should get on that. Next gate opening, let's send an enchanted one back to Germany to see if the effects remain. Reducing the war effort's need for fuel will further cement our position.
>>26259104Seconded, fuel wins wars. Well, logistics in general do. Anything we have that can save ammunition as well? Magical Magazines? We need to research this. Even just Conjure Water and Conjure Food would be awesome.
>>26258469Forgot:>Find out whether Siegfried exited the portal on the other side or if he did something else, just to make sure>What did we discover when vivisecting the assassin?
>>26259130I deem the following as most interesting:>Conserve fuel>Reduce size>Reduce weight>Protective enchantments for tanks and planes. If a tank with only half the armor and runes is as effective as a normal one, we can save a lot of valuable metal. Planes that don't desintegrate after a few hits would also be nice>Magic healing>Detect life>Invisibility>Silence>PrecisionNot quite as important, but still worth researching:>Everything that yields more firepower>Levitation to avoid mines and difficult terrain>Morale boosts>Cooling barrels>Warming clothes
>>26259286The lie detection spell Beregen used on us would also prove most useful during interrogations. Not as vital in combat, but extremely useful on any prisoners captured. Though that does of course allow half-truths and things they believe to be true to not be caught by the spell... Hmm. Wonder if there are mind reading spells here.
>>26244711>>26245055>>26245408>>26245802You contemplate just what to do with the suit of armor. The large construct remains silent as the soldier returns with the ring in question, the officer trailed by a pair of lesser infantrymen carrying the parts of the suit behind them in what looked like a pair of burlap sacks. Not the most glorious method of conveyance for what remains of Beregen, but it works.You slip the translation ring back onto your finger, smiling as you look at the construct. It chitters again, and you await to hear the vast, intellectually profound insights of--"Hunt?" It asks, staring down at you with its big, almost innocent-looking eyes. "Hunt? Now?"Its voice is slightly masculine, but very simple-sounding, quiet, even, in contrast to its massive frame. It says nothing further, just standing there, examining its surroundings with what you realize is a childlike curiosity.>>26249175>>26250656>>26249740>>26257734"I think your engineers would be best for examining this." You gesture to the large golem. "Its full abilities are not, well, fully understood. Even now that we have full control of it." You tell Speer, to which the man nods."We have a number of pieces of equipment that we brought with us. Equipment that might be useful in testing the abilities of that." He gestures to the large, magical construct.You smile, "I have a few ideas of just how to test it." You lack pilots, but you know that some of your equipment could be improvised to detect and gauge the airspeed of what is, obviously, likely to be a very fast thing indeed." You smirk, gesturing to the wings folded behind the construct's back."Further, some fake structures could prove an excellent means of testing its destructive capacity, including its strength. A shame that we don't have any conveniently abandoned--"
>>26261394A thought pops into your head. There was, in fact, a small village that your scouts were ambushed in. A village that your artillery partially destroyed, but perhaps such a site would prove ideal for this very test?>>26249175>>26250656>>26249740>>26250720You contemplate something, looking over to Hans and Alphonse. "You two have had some experience with the miracle metal so far, yes?" You ask.Speer lights up at this. You seem to have hit a subject of interest.Alphonse nods, "Moreso myself than Hans here, Oberst. Hans was mostly helpful in assembling all the weapon systems." He tells you, before pausing a bit, the young man clearly not used to talking to people for extended periods of time. "But yes, sir. I've done plenty of work with the golem's plating.""Do you know if it would be suitable for alloying? If we are to employ it in grander projects, it may prove invaluable if we can reduce the necessary mithril input by alloying it with steel."His eyes seem to light up, as if expecting this question. "I spoke with our, ah, former Thule liaison on that." He remarks, "I have good reason to believe, especially after speaking with some of the metallurgy experts on the science staff, that we might be able to actually -improve- the mithril we have. We can alloy it, yes, strengthening the steel." He remarks, but not alluding to just how he knows that, "But if we can establish some sort of foundry facility like what we'd use for steel." There's a note of glee in his voice, "We could actually stand a very real chance of purifying what we have!""All of which hinges on you securing and getting that mithril mine properly operational." Speer pipes in, throwing in a quiet little jab while he's at it.You nod regardless, "Thank you, Alphonse." You tell the mechanic, looking back to Speer."It seems that we may yet have a new asset for the Fuhrer. One of many we shall soon obtain." You tell him, smiling triumphantly at the promise of additional resources.
I say we begin our attack on Starbane, once fortifications are done, followed by Swordhenge and the towns
>>26261519Yes, the village where we captured the mages would be a good target. There's also the mansion where Gunther killed those kobolds, kidnapped the servants, stole the booze and got us our translation rings. I seem to recall a village there that had been massacred, that could also serve as a testing ground. Unless the ambush site and first village are the same place, that is.And as for the golem.... "No, we won't be hunting now. Our engineers will first test your capabilities and strengthen them as needed. Once your performance is satisfactory, then you will hunt." Feel free to fix that up to be more in tune with Landa's personality; I'm atrocious with dialogue.Side note: find out how intelligent golems can become, and whether they're capable of defying our will/betraying us/having a mage override our control. The last thing we want is it turning on us after all the effort Hans and Alphonse put into making it a flying murder machine.
>>26261519Should we split the forces between taking the mines and Starbane? this is totally dependent n scouting the Mines for it's defenses, but I can't imagine it's overly fortified. send some artillery and foot soldiers to the mines, while the bulk of the forces and the Golem to Starbane to terrify the shit out of them. maybe pull something similar to Redding's surrender. 'if you walk away now, we won't kill you' or something.
>>26258469>>26259144>>26258606>>26258642>>26258878You realize, in no small part, that you have far greater fish to fry. Redding and its forces are still dark, but that does not leave you powerless. You turn to Speer, then to the golem. You clench your fist with the golem's ring on it."You are to follow the orders of this man, Herr Speer, and his men." You order the construct, "They shall be testing your abilities. Do as they tell you." You order it, turning on your heels to head back towards your command post. Speer is hot at your heels, seemingly fascinated at what you might be up to next."We're going on the warpath!" You announce, heading towards the bustling command center once more. The various officers herding around you part smoothly as you march past them, "I need reports! Intelligence on the Empire's Legion-- anti-air capacity! Scouting reports! Information on Fort Starbane and Baron Farnsworth's reeducation!"You throw your hands to the air, coaxing the various officers to scatter like hounds on the hunt, most of them having no idea who these people are, but looking for the veterans already on-camp to help guide the way.Some promotions might be in order for the men already on-site, but you set that aside for later, stepping inside as Gretta greets you with a large smile, the radio operator mid-conversation with a work detail near the outskirts of your own fort's foundations.It's good to be back in your command post.>>26258890You have a number of photographs from the initial ritual by Magi Arthur. You also have a far greater compendium of records for the second ritual constructed by Siegfried, including photographs and transcriptions of the reference materials used by Siegfried in the spellcrafting process, as well as a full itinerary of the objects utilized by Siegfried, down to the people used and their qualifiers. Let it not be said that Germans do not keep very good records!
>>26261961Then you spot a few other persons. It seems that Father Vickerson is awaiting you, a fire in his eyes and a rosary in his hands. He stares at you as you enter, his gaze unwavering, the man looking like he's aged decades over the last few months, wrinkles lining his eyes as he clutches his holy symbol in thin hands, his robes-- similar to Siegfried's-- that of a Friar.Dr. Buren is also present, looking at you as well, his own expression somewhat grave-- he's wearing a pair of simple overalls, but you spot a bit of blood around his forearm. It doesn't take a genius to know whose blood that is, or where he just came from.You focus on your objectives. You think of names-- Gunther was always the man more in-tune with the soldiers themselves, but you put your mind to work.Your memories flash back to so many of your officers laying dead or wounded upon the floor of Redding's command post. Slain instantly. A brief, vivid thought that causes you to startle somewhat, interrupting yourself. You catch your grip quickly enough."I need a coffee." You state wearily, "Then get-- Ah. Alfred." You pause, thinking, trying to remember the soldier's name. "A Corporal by the name of Alfred. He's due for a promotion." You remark, "Have the--" You look to Gretta just finishing a call. Your thoughts are still somewhat disoriented."Gretta." You say, somewhat lightly. "What was Alfred's last name?" You stop yourself from saying 'dear' in front of Speer. Barely. You need that coffee."Hershel." She tells you, smiling.Right. Have the new Sergeant Hershel debrief the officers." You gesture to the gaggle of men standing outside of the command post, those few souls that didn't flutter about uselessly at your orders."Yes, sir. I'll have an announcement broadcast over the camp speakers." She tells you, giving you a somewhat sympathetic look before carrying on her duties. An adjutant brings you a cup of coffee, black, which you chug down.
For now, I'd say push for Southmarch Academy. If we're lucky, it'll be a valuable source of information, whether magical or otherwise. If we're not, it still works as a perfect firebase, in range of both Swordhenge and Fort Starbane.Once the firebase is established, we can choose which target to hit first according to the intel we get. Swordhenge would be an amphibious assault unless we take the long way around. Starbane is an amphibious assault no matter which angle we approach it, but from Southmarch we have the treeline to mask our movements.We need intel on all the villages. Will they be joining the fight or passing on our troop movements?
Using the older ritual (or taking whatever 'good' bits from the second to combine with the first) may be a good idea. I think one way to placate Vickerson is to build a chapel. Maybe get additional religious staff. Scapegoat Siegfried a bit.We should start requisitioning gold from the Gate from now on. Then we can set up a Gold-Mithril exchange program. If I remember right, Mithril coins were alot more common place than gold ones.
>>26262104It tastes disgusting, and you wince slightly as you look at the command map.>>26261843>>26261735>>26261723Ah, yes, the village to the north as well. You look to Speer, pointing on the map to the village you captured the mages in, as well as the one to the north."Take your pick of which place you want to test." You tell him, "The construct will take your orders from there." You clench the ring on your finger.Somehow, subconsciously, you know you can issue orders still to the construct, likely still waiting patiently in the garage."No hunting for now. We'll be testing your abilities first-- once we're sure you can hunt, you'll hunt." You tell it.No response back.You lift your cap up, running a hand through your hair.>>26261843>>26261723>>26258642>>26258469"We're going to be mounting an attack on the Legion." You state simply, raising your voice, staring down at the strategic map. "Full battle footing. I want radio communication established with Redding as soon as possible." You state, "Once their radios are repaired, I want the Hilfskriminalkommissar to get brought up to speed."You look over to Speer, "We're going to need to find out everything we can first." You state, "Including who controls the mines at the moment, as well as local terrain."You look back at the map. Outside of the knowledge of where things are, your men have little practical intelligence. You'll need to send out scouting parties, though you already have one headed to the mithril mine. The lack of Redding's radio transceiver means that you won't hear from them for a few days more, unfortunately, if you do hear from them again. A dark thought.You also have a matter of fortifications to think on. In all likelihood, the Legion is preparing to assault your position, and they've seen a fair amount of your offensive powers-- if they haven't already broken the soldiers that they captured from your own forces.
>>26262214When it is time to seize the mine, pains should be taken to defend the workers, and to strongly convince them that we will not harm them. Skilled miners whose loyalty we reinforce will yield far more product than will conscripts or slaves if we are forced to eradicate them. Worse, skilled miners that hate us at our backs as we try to take the minehead could sap and spoil the mines and force us to take it foot by foot.
>>26262205Southmarch should really be the last place we go, and it shouldn't be a straight up attack. Taking on a place that has better mages than Redding--including two Magi is extremely reckless. We should isolate it first by taking control over Starbane & Swordhenge. Once we do that, they"ll have an incentive to cooperate with the people that control the immediate outside world.>>26262392Agreed. Although I don't know if it's possible to take Swordhenge peacefully like we did with Redding.
Maybe we should set up some modern infrastructure in Redding and Swordhenge, when we take it. That'd boost morale and loyalty to us. Importing luxury goods that the upper class don't have access to--such as chocolate and record players would help too.
>>26262408>SouthmarchSue for peace once we've clenched the region. It worked quite well for the Furher the first go-round.>>26262408>SwordhengeA show of force? Shelling, followed by a blitzkrieg attack spearheaded by armor? Perhaps the populace at large will be cowed when we annihilate the garrison.
>>26262484Yeah.We could do the following:1. Offer luxury goods and precious metals.2. In exchange, they scout our ranks for those with magic potential. Them and the Thule society mages receive training and access to their library.
>>26262408Two Magi is exactly why we need to control Southmarch quickly. There's no guarantee they'll stay neutral in the coming conflicts - if we march on Swordhenge for a conventional assault, they effectively have free access to our entire supply line. Should Swordhenge be able to cut a deal to get Southmarch to intervene (in exchange for, say, some of that mithril), we are in for a world of hurt.It'll doubtlessly be costly as we don't know how to fight mages. But we can afford to lose men now, and the experience will be invaluable for the assault on Starbane or possibly Swordhenge. And we can get Speer to follow our lead more when he learns firsthand that magic isn't something to be underestimated.
>>26262575>There's no guarantee they'll stay neutral in the coming conflictsSo instead we force them to side with the Empire?
>>26262691They would be eliminated as a threat. It doesn't matter what side they're on after that.
>>26262691No, we get them on our side with promises of knowledge, materiel support, and new ways of destroying their enemies.
>>26253568>Seeing as how the G-41 semi-auto rifle doesn't exist, maybe we could requisition some Mondragon 1907s?This, in addition to a greater number of automatic weapons (MG34s in particular) in general and mortars would be good, seeing as how we're always outnumbered.
>>26262205You could push for the Academy if you wish, though obviously it has a large contingent of magical personnel present, including two Magi. Exact numbers beyond that are unknown to you.>>26262210Vickerson doesn't currently seem inclined towards being placated. He's just standing there for now, staring at you unblinkingly.>>26262392>>26262484>>26262575>>26262691>>26262758>>26263027Your mind whirrs as you contemplate Southmarch Academy. Seizing the mines with the miners alive will be important-- whoever they are, it's likely that they alone know the secrets of how to safely and efficiently extract the precious metal.Swordhenge, on the other hand, will be straightforward. You point to it on the map."A peaceful solution in Swordhenge isn't likely." You tell the men gathered, Speer observing. "We'll need a proper show of force for it, just as much as we will for Fort Starbane. Heavy shelling for certain, especially with some of the timer-equipped special munitions we've received for the artillery pieces. A blitzkrieg attack will serve us well in the aftermath, especially if we spearhead it with the new tanks."Speer seems to soak all of this in, "That will cause considerable damage to the infrastructure." He murmurs, "Are you certain you must shell the city with artillery? On the open field is one thing, but there will be much more to clean up in the way you describe.">>26262484>>26262534>>26262476"Infrastructure we'll replace. Especially with whatever treasure that they may be keeping in their vaults in the city." You tell him, "Treasure that, I'm certain, shall keep the Fuhrer very happy about our progress."Speer seems satisfied, for now, at your answer, nodding once more.You have much more to assign and handle, however. Father Vickerson's stare is intensifying, and the good Dr. Buren seems to be looking at the clock pointedly, as if trying to convey that he also has duties he needs to attend to.
>>26263572You won't be able to get a sitrep from your forces in Redding with the radio there down. However, you can still get plenty done here, including whatever construction projects you may wish accomplished with Speer's additional engineering teams.>>26263533Considering the Mexican make of the rifle, procurement may prove problematic. Your forces are, however, equipped with a higher-than-normal presence of heavy weaponry, as per your earlier request.
>>26263572Vickerson and Buren obviously want a word in private. We should oblige.
>>26263576I know Germany bought 3000 of them from Siwtzerland during, or after WW2. >>26263572Talk to Buren, followed by Vickerson. Given that the vast majority of our personnel are catholic or protestant, we should try to appease Vickerson. After that, prepare to invade the areas. In Swordhenge, we should prioritize military sites over civilian buildings, for obvious reasons.
>>26263648Second this, lets step outside (or inside a private conference room) and have a word to them.Side note: It seems that our 'good' Gestapo contact has not been filling out the most favorable reports about our progress here. We will have to have a word with him once we re-establish communications with Redding.
As amazing as Mithril is, fuel shortages is what really ate into Germany during WW2. Hell, shortages in general began showing up in late 1939. Getting more fuel produced--for ourselves and to export would be a high priority too.
>>26264049to that end we should probably ask the locals about pools like in the village we aquired
>>26264035I'm more bothered by the fact he evidently isn't the straightforward type. Makes him harder to gauge, rely on and trust. Speaking of the Gestapo, we should avoid the informant/snitch campaign that happened in Germany. The Gestapo--and later the Allies ended up being flooded with anonymous reports of dubious truthfulness. >>26264065Yeah.
>>26263572Get Buren and Vickerson's reports, and then inform the officers we'll be doing a road move to Redding to begin recce and assault training for future operations.We'll need to have our pioneers begin building mockups once we get initial intel, and have our troops practice their assault.We should also make sure they artillery has smoke shells, if we're storming the base, we'll choke them in smoke so they can't see our advancing infantry.Panzers and schutzen will also need to practice, both storm assaults and pursuits to eliminate fleeing enemy forces.We'll also need to get the golem in on the assault training, and get it used to our way of making war.Make sure the troops are also used to carrying their assault loads, being extra rifle grenades, regular grenades, and machine gun barrels and ammo for the MG teams.
>>26264083Vickerson won't be a report. Far more acrimonious. He'll need some placating, and distancing yourself from Siegfried might help.
>>26264169Reports, bitching, whatever, we have a lot of shit to do anyways.
>>26258956>>26259028>>26259098>>26259104>>26259130>>26259286>>26259417A number of enchantment ideas flitter into your head to speak with the mages in Redding about. Their efforts at crafting translation rings has likely yielded a number for your forces to use, once proper lines are restored.>>26263737>>26263648>>26264035>>26264083>>26264169>>26264188You gesture for Vickerson and the good doctor to follow you towards your private office, a little subsection of the command post, the doors swinging open and shut behind you three as you step behind your simple oak desk. With the huge scale of the supply drop, it seems you were able to get an actual desk put in here by some quick-working soldiers! The desk still needs to be filled, but you suspect the clerical staff will handle that in due time.You settle into your chair, the hustle and bustle of the forces outside preparing for the next stage of expansion going on. Speer seems to have taken over the table, turning the tone of the larger conversation outdoors towards completion of the star fort.Vickerson has gone from staring daggers to looking ready to crack, and your gesture for Buren to speak first does little good."Oberst." Buren remarks, his normally calm demeanor taking on a slight edge. "My compatriot is currently occupied with operating on your second in command." He tells you.You nod, "I was hoping for a report on this. What's the news, doctor?""It is... variable. Gunther is a prime specimen of health. He is likely the healthiest man here-- and would otherwise remain so, if this had not happened. If it were any other man struck by such a mighty blow, we'd be covering his face now." The doctor remarks, which causes Vickerson's apparent rage to pause momentarily, before reigniting silently.
>>26264297"I had a few of the nurses dispatched via truck to head to Redding. Some of the soldiers remarked that they had healing supplies stored there-- magical healing supplies." He emphasizes, "Maybe even some local healers."He pauses, staring at you now with a very quiet intensity, contrary to Vickerson's all-too-evident rage."Do you see the problem with me having to do so, Oberst?" He asks you quietly, obviously wondering if you see the same problem he does.
>>26264314You are short-staffed, doctor, I know, the problem is expedition wide.I am hoping that the reinforcements also came with enough medical staff to erect a proper field hospital and ambulances, but we will have to hope.
>>26264314Tell him that we"ll be prioritizing supplies and logistics personnel for the next requisitioning.
>>26264314"I believe so, but tell me anyways, Doctor. We have enough troubles on this expedition without miscommunication adding to them."
>>26264330>>26264382>>26264419"You're short-staffed, doctor. I know, I know, the problem is expedition-wide. I am hoping that--"Vickerson blinks once or twice, and you wonder why, but then you realize that it's because your ears are ringing from the abrupt yelling from the normally calm and reserved Doctor Buren."SHORT-STAFFED?!" He howls at you, "If I was short-bloody-staffed, I would be a VERY happy man!" He barks, slamming his hands on the edge of your desk, leaning upon it now. You simply remain in your seat for the moment."If I was short-staffed, Oberst, I wouldn't be trying to explain what a vascular clamp looks like to a medic appointed as a nurse!" He barks at you, fire in hise yes. "If I was short-staffed, I wouldn't need to delegate what few nurses I /do/ have into operating as actual doctors! If I was short-staffed, I wouldn't be rotating with Dr. Klein -- bless his heart-- in forty-eight hour shifts every time there's a battle!"He seems to seethe for a few moments longer, "I do not have 'insufficient staff'." He remarks, "I have to rely on witchcraft and hocus-POCUS," His voice rises again, "Because we don't have the manpower or expertise necessary to handle all the new ailments in this world, all the germs, and then take wounded on top of that! Your man is hanging on to life by needlework and a scalpel's edge, and I have neither the time nor skill to keep an entire ARMY in such a state!"He throws his hands in the air. Vickerson takes this as his own cue to speak up.
Apologize. Say something along the lines that he's just a single person who has already been occupied with many problems and projects, and that he's an engineer, not a doctor. It was an oversight, and that we didn't expect so many troops to arrive.Ask that he write out a report for what he needs, and what he wants from the next supply drop, and that he should probably get one done each month. Other than trying to get more supplies or something to make drugs set up, there's nothing we can really do.
>>26264466"I must mirror the good doctor's sentiments." Vickerson says darkly, "The Lord is a forgiving sort, but He does not take kindly upon those that deal in what you have just done. Of your pet sorcerer, His Greatness shall smite him, if He has not done so already." The Father speaks with all the fire of a Baptist, but you can feel it all directed at you. "You have damned souls, evil souls, perhaps, but souls all the same! You have spilled blood in Pagan rituals and done dark, evil things, Oberst!"You can't help but flinch a bit at his words. Damnation for choosing soldiers over logistics is one thing. Damnation for consorting with the Devil, or at least this priest's perceptions of it, is another thing entirely."Necessity, in your eyes, may have required you to do this. In which case, God will judge accordingly." He remarks, eyes staring at you as he thrusts his rosary in your face. "But know this: Do not consort with evil, black magic and expect to walk freely in the Lord's house. Rank or no, I'll knock you out if you step foot within my congregation, should you stay on this path." He tells you bluntly, turning about and heading towards the door, Dr. Buren trailing behind him with his calm expression resumed once more.There's dead silence in the command post for several minutes, you being left to your thoughts, it seems.Then you'd hear a gentle knock. You have more to do. A face pokes in, a rather young man, his body wrapped in the robes of a Thule Society mage. He had a full head of blonde hair, his blue eyes looking around carefully, examining your undecorated main office."Do you have a moment, Oberst? I am the new head liaison for the Thule Society, in Siegfried's absence. He updated me with all I'd need to know, but I thought it wise to chat a bit. I am Gallagher." He greets, beaming.
>>26264466Apologize, and try too promise him more doctors next shipment but nothing can be done for now
>>26264562Not at the moment, I'm afraid, I need to get a detailed breakdown of the new arriving troops to see if some of our more pressing issues regarding medicine and logistics can be solved.You can, however, begin by taking a look over his notes regarding the ritual and looking for anything that might indicate his whereabouts.With that, schedule a briefing for the new Thule personnel later tonight, but for now begin integrating our new troops into a brigade group, and see what CSS and MSS they brough with them.
>>26264562see, this shit is why blood magic needs to stop. We put an automatic moratorium on anything related to the works. The idea came from Seigfried, who is obviously in somebody else's pocket now. That change of loyalty should be reason enough to stop the practice immediately, because he obviously does not have the Reich's best interest at heart any longer.
>>26264562I'd like to inquire him on improving Arthur's version of the ritual, potentially with any bits that could be integrated from Siegfried's to make it more efficient. The last ritual scared everyone shitless (including Oberst). Black tentacles consuming the lives and souls of people? Frankly, we should try to conserve our men's morale and sanity. I mean, most soldiers would have a lot of difficulty to even shoot soldiers, let alone civvies. A bloody soul sacrifice is on another level.We need a clean gate ritual, but it has to be more efficient. With Gallagher, we can talk about it being an issue of morality but also an issue of practicality.
>>26264562Let's take a moment to converse with our new Thule Society member, make sure he's got a good head on his shoulders. We should make sure to drive home what Siegfried did and how his actions, while benefactual to us in the short term, were in hindsight not what we should have done at all, and any actions on his part to continue any research into darker magics will have severe consequences. Possibly even being sent home, should the time come that we're not hurting for manpower.
>>26264562"In all honesty Vickerson I think that If I had known how horridly they would die I would not have gone through with the ritual. I do not doubt I will not sleep well tonight or for the foreseeable future. However I may regret my method but not the actions themselves. If we had not done so to the people, we would have done so to the beings we captured, damning them all the same. Her Doctor I will make the addition of medical personnel a priority for the next wave of reinforcements, but do try to tighten your belt a little, we are going to be on the warpath again soon.Gallagher I will gladly meet with you in due time, however I must work on getting the new soldiers settled in. If we can walk and talk then by all means.
>>26264712They're already gone.>>26264698I think we should keep a polite and friendly tone in general, but be stern about the issue of black magic.
>>26264745Yeah. We're finally getting what Beregen was talking about with Black Magic, and we don't want anything to do with that shit anymore. it only took us losing 3 named characters to realize it's a bunch of bad news, right?
>>26264794Just to curtail any Thule influence, I think we should focus on raising our own mages amongst the Wehrmacht instead of raising their own numbers. Granted, Thule mages probably aren't a monolithic bunch.
>>26264883Yes, but wasn't this guy recommended by Siegfried? Color me slightly suspicious. I think it's better to err on the side of caution with any Thule Society in the future, treat them as Guilty until Proven Innocent on the Black Magic stuff. We don't know what they're taught, so who knows? Maybe Siegfried was a shining example of what they strive to be.We should also make a show of going to church and repenting our ways for a while, mend bridges with Vickerson. We need to repair morale after the sacrifice, and letting the men know you won't do it again on moral religious reasons should be fairly convincing.
>>26264672We should talk about this with the magi of Southmarch Academy. It's quite some time till the next gate opening, and the new Thule members surely won't discover a clean way in the next month, so they should focus on learning about Siegfried's discoveries. When the gate opens the second time, the Academy should be under our control.>>26264297We could bring some magical assistance in, if he agrees with it. He won't like it, but an alchemist or mage might be a great help at healing our wounded.
>>26264554Actually, lets do this for everyone.What they need from the next requisitioning.What they'd like.What they'd need and like to be done in the field. We should probably have every named person fill it out so we don't get any surprises. Plus, we'd get a wider range of insight and options this way on what to do.>>26264944Cautious, yeah. We should avoid making any enemies out of powerful factions too, of course.
>>26264745>>26264712>>26264567>>26264975You contemplate crafting up an apology for the two later on, but elect that the best apology would probably be something substantial, rather than more words. You grab some paper from one of the desk drawers (thankfully it only takes a bit of looking, an an adjutant already stocked the desk with fountain pens, paper, and other such writing implements.)You scribble down an order to have the medical staff that may have come through, if unnoticed thus far, allocated over to the hospital, as well as for any additional logistical staff to help get things in order there.Manpower, once again, seems to be an issue.>>26264630>>26264646>>26264672>>26264698>>26264745>>26264794You contemplate sending him away and keeping him around, but go for the middle option."I do not have much in the way of spare time, Gallagher, but I will make something clear. Come in." You tell him, the man entering, smiling at you. He seems a bit friendlier than Siegfried, but those eyes still meet your own."Siegfried has left you his notes, yes?" You clarify, to begin with."And much, much more." He remarks, beaming at you."Right." You remark at the cryptic answer. "In which case, I want you to develop more of the original ritual that Magi Arthur-- the local to the south-- utilized. This black magic scared us all shitless, to be quite frank, and caused quite a few problems for us, for all the good it did in the short-term." You tell him bluntly. "We'll need a better alternative to it. Furthermore, consider this a moratorium on black magic-- foul sorcery like what you're describing will only cause us issues in the long run." You inform him.He nods, smiling. "Of course, sir." He tells you, "I had no expectations to the contrary, in fact. I'll set myself and the new acolytes on the task immediately. Assuming there isn't anything further, we'll get on the task right away in Siegfried's old workshop." He tells you, smiling.
>>26265216>Oberst needs some rest. However, before I depart for sleep...>Consider, if you will...>Fortifications to be built.>New structures to be added on>Research to be pursued>Invasion plans.>I will return in a few hours from my sleep.>What shall the future hold, I wonder?
>>26265249Fortifications: Proceed with Starfort constructionNew Structures: Expand the barracks, maybe build a road from Redding to the portal base, nothing grand, just improve the worst parts of the wayResearch: Mages have their orders. How is the progress with the assassin?
>>26265439We'll need to take into account our pre-assault road-move to Redding to stage there and conduct pre-mission rehearsals.
>>Fortifications to be built.--Star Fort to be finished.-Fortifications in Redding, not limited to outer walls incase they manage to invade from the inside. Fortifying the Keep, as well as decentralizing our stay from it so they can't just take us out in one fell swoop.>>>New structures to be added on--That bridge someone suggested to increase the volume of what we get from the gate.--Building a forge so we can alloy and make things out of the material.--Modern infrastructure in Redding to improve morale within the city.--A hydro-electric generator so we can conserve fuel for our vehicles.--Expanding the base to account for new personnel.>>Research to be pursued--Scouting and training candidates to become magic-users. Developing theories on applying magic in warfare and during peace time (like infrastructure)--We should work to establish a modern theory on magic. Getting scientists & psychologists (because we know our magic bullet was a result of the terror we felt) to work with the Thule society mages. Science, after all is about understanding things we observe. Any native magic should be screened for mere superstition or tradition so we can practice a more efficient magecraft. There's also a question on whether X is magic, and what we define magic as.--Making a more efficient gate opening ritual, that also isn't black magic.We need to establish contact with Redding. If we have to set up a small 'network' using a chain of short-range radios to relay messages to do it, so be it. We can't let anything that happen to Redding go unnoticed.
>>26265216Don't apologize to Vickerson. He's a priest. He's here to keep the soldiers' morale up. That is all. All those hell and damnation fairy tales fail to impress me.
We currently have a dozen Thules and their leader.I propose we split them up into 4 groups of 3 to research various subjects>Healing magic>Enchantment magic>Battle magic>Ritual magic
>>26265468We're Nazis. Since when are we scared of black magic? If there was ever a faction to be actively pursuing necromancy and sacrificial magic it's us.It's a great way to keep our fallen fighting for us and get rid of undesirables.
>>26265515Careful pal, don't go waving that sharp edge around too much, you might hurt yourself.
>>26265598hurr edgy durrrYup, its summer again.
>>26265515We're (funky) Nazi, not Hollywood Nazi. We're all about the superior master race and enslaving the barbarians, not foolishly sells our souls to the devil.
>>26265598Dude, you realise we're playing NAZI quest. A quest specifically made to play the BAD GUYS.If you think that's edgy, go play yet-another-allies-perspective-quest or whatever.
>>26265515No, its the commies that would do that.
>>26265515Just because we're playing nazis doesn't mean we have to become completely retarded comic book villians. I hate to sound like an apologist, but believe it or not, the average German was not some satanic sociopath who bathed in the blood of Jews.
>>26265628The reason we dont sell our souls to the devil is that we dont believe in a devil. Everything is SCIENCE! to us.>>26265655Commies, or rather Stalinists just kill everything. If you're gonna post a 40k Chaos pic try Kharn. With a Komissar's hat.
If there's one thing I've learned about Nazi Germany by researching them is that they will grasp at any single straw that shows promise of giving them an edge. They dont care about the morality. They only care about efficiency. Getting as much result as possible out of the least effort spent.
>>26265672Even if we allow dark magic research, we will need to closely watch the mages. There is just too much power involved. Imagine Siegfried would have decided to take the power of their souls through a ritual, claiming they would fuel the gate. We could not have seen through that. Then he could have proceeded to take our magical materials, and get on his way to become God-Emperor of this realm. We should be glad that this did not happen, but I fear this is not the last encounter with him.>>26265723We should be careful because it gives a single person so much power that it is dangerous for us. Besides, it ruins our reputation.
>>26265723Black magic doesn't really take into account the locals, and our own soldiers aspect of humanity--their sanity, morals and morale. Nearly all of our men are going to be christian or from a christian background. Doyle & Vickerson for example were not for it.Sure, we have people like Gunther to do nasty, dirty shit since he's an (awesome) psycho. I'd rather we stick with being vaguely morally dubious than going beyond what'd be mundane evil acts, anyway. >>26265645Maybe for the average american, but there's plenty of media where Germans are protagonists and cast in a gray or vaguely positive light.
>>26265747I concur fully. Frankly I don't care about the morality of these actions; its their unforeseen ramifications which worry me.Instead of focusing on how to develop /more/ magic, we should instead focus our efforts on neutralizing it as a viable offensive or defensive force. We already have a huge tech advantage, without magic this Empire only has numbers on its side. Furthermore, by developing magic counter-measures, we ensure that none of our own mages can get uppity and decide that they would be a better Fuhrer than our current one.As for Vickerson, now that Beregen is dead, the promise that we made to him is null and void. Lets allow Vickerson to slowly convert the populace and temples in Redding to good, honest Christian worship. That'll keep the man busy and out of our hair.
>>26265908The locals in the temple district, or at least his direct subordinates probably know about the agreement, though.Frankly, the temple district is a black hole of intelligence. We know nothing about it. What we can gain, or what we can lose by pissing them off. Or even how loyal they may be to us.
>>26265908I agree that anti-magic is the most important field of research at the moment. Before deciding on the conversion of the populace, we need to acquire much knowledge about their religion. Honestly, I think it's good as it is at the moment, with our ideology slowly replacing their old gods.
>>26265908I think he can be appeased just by not doing black magic.>>I agree that anti-magic is the most important field of research at the moment. Before deciding on the conversion of the populace, we need to acquire much knowledge about their religion.I agree with these sentiments. Siegfried saved our ass a few times by 'stealing' their magic attacks. We could also BS gaining knowledge on their religions through opening an 'inter-faith dialogue'.>>26265645That's funny, because for the past dozen threads we /didn't/ do things like making a deal with that demon who claimed to be from hell. Really, the ritual was stupid. Taking Berg there was retarded, so was doing the ritual infront of him. So was suddenly going from being relatively reasonable to sacrificing the souls of children.>>26265908Other than meta knowledge of what black magic is perceived as--look at Siegfried and the devil. It"ll probably be "great, convenient power for little cost--until the consequences bite you in the ass somehow".
>>26266007>>26265496I think Anti-magic falls under Battle Magic here.
>>26265908Developing magic shouldn't be neglected either since it's a force multiplier. In particular, integrating magic with german engineering. Look at what that fusion gave us. Some amazing, sentient (if not sapient) wunderweapon that's probably faster than jets--which don't even exist yet.
>>26265945Hmm, fair point. I like anon's idea of opening up an ''inter-faith dialogue'. This will keep Vickerson occupied and it will also give us some intel on the local religions and temples, which I agree is currently a big black hole for us.>>26266022Personally I'd like it added as a 5th category, I consider it that important. Magic doesn't have to be used in battles, our men will need protection against non-offensive magics as well, such as illusion or deception spells. Maybe we can go down the Dishonored route and counter magical powers with some kind of anti-magic classical music. I'm sure the Fuhrer would love that. Regardless, anti-magic research should be the Thule society's 2nd priority, after Gate/Ritual research.
>>26266093Speaking of which, if we can so drastically cut down on engine fuel consumption, first of all do that with Hans' tank and the other, but also enchant a bunch of flame-throwers to do the same until we develop self-sustaining magic flamethrowers
>>26266134Magic like that is important. Especially since shortages will inevitably hit us.Nazi Germany wants a ROI, not a money hole. So we have to eventually become an exporter of resources. Flip the situation around basically.What the Germans on the homefront need is mithril and fuel. Cutting down our consumption while increasing supply would be grand.
>>26265645>nazis>bad guysamerica pls
>>26266127>2 men on Rituals>2 men on Enchantment>3 men on Battle-magic>2 men on Healing>3 men on Anti-magicTotal: 12
>>26266240Don't forget about the ones we hired. They probably have a broad knowledge that could be useful, and can help with the research when we think they produced enough translation rings.
>>26264562A shame we are letting concerns of the old *Judeo*-Christian faith trouble us so.We do not need to fear paganism. On the contrary, soon the black sun will rise and we shall the return of the old gods. Fear not hell, rather, seek glory for the Reich and our fate among the ranks of vahlahalla.
>>26266291The Magi? They are not official part of our research dept. are they?
>>26266306Churches, to an extent began rooting out the 'Judeo'. Protestants even stopped saying Amen IIRC.>>26266323You mean Mages. Magi (should be Magus for non-plural IMO) are especially powerful mages.
>>26266291>>26266323Also considering that the only loyalty they have with us comes from our resources.It would be better if we keep them busy with 'simple' tasks like making more translation rings.
>>26266335I'd prefer to use Mage/Magi for regularsand Sorceror(s) for the masters of the art and beyond.
>>26266323We sent a party to the acadamy to hire auxiliary mages, 17 if I remember correctly, which are currently tasked with the production of translation rings.>>26266343They can still assist our research. We have a lot of ressources, and I think they will be glad to research in a safe place while being fed and paid. I don't feel the need to distrust them right now, except for their high demands.>>26266361In this quest regular ones are called Mage/Mages and those recognized by the Emperor Magi, both singular and plural, although Magus would sound better. It would be quite confusing if we started to use other titles.
>>26266407It IS quite confusing the way it is now. It's never too late to do things better.
>>26266408Why not merge Mages into the usual NS rank table?>>26266436I'd go with Mage/Mages and Magus/Magi, but the way it is right now is also acceptable.
>>26266458But they're the same word in different languages.Theres no sufficient discrimination between Master Sorcerors and pleb magicians IMHO. I find this unrealistic in the sense that it would in this fantasy world not give sufficient honor to the masters of the craft in the form of a distinguished name.
>>26266408If we make the Thule society a part of the SS we can give them official ranks and make research, combat, pionier and other divisions out of them.SS-Magus (Mage)SS-Obermagus (Senior mage)SS-Sturmmagus (Stormmage)SS-Magi-Rottenführer (mage-section leader)SS-Magi-Untersharführer (Junior mage-squad leader)SS-Magi-Sharführer (Mage-squad leader)SS-Magi-Obersharfürher (Senior Mage-squad leader)SS-Magi-Hauptsharführer (Chief mage-squad leader)SS-Magi-Sturmsharfürher (Stormmagi-squad leader)SS-Magi-Untersturmfürher (Jr. Stormmagi leader)SS-Magi-Obersturmführer (Sr. Stormmagi leader)SS-Magi-Hauptsturmfürher (Chief Stormmagi leader)SS-Magi-Sturmbannführer (Stormmagi Unit Leader)SS-Magi-Obersturmbannführer (Sr. Stormmagi Unit Leader)SS-Magi-Standardtenführer (Magi-regiment leader) Depending on how many mages we end up having the highest rank that can be filled will answer directly to the regular SS-Oberführer or the highest ranked officer present.
>>26266592Our SS detachment is 20 man strong. I'd rather see mages largely integrated into the Wehrmacht. A few mages in the SS would be fine though.
>>26266592It's 'Schar' and 'Führer'.
>>26266645Go edit the wikipedia on SS ranks then if you know better.
>>26266929Well, I'm German and he is right...
>>26267010Like i said, edit the damn wiki then.
To get back to the planning >>26265468 began>StructuresThe bridge is too big right nowI support building a forgeWhat do you mean with modern infrastructure? Water and electricity lines will require quite some work, simple streets are no problem.Hydro-electric generators have my full support.Expanding the gate base should focus on the barracks, the rest can be upgraded after the walls are done.>ResearchScouting is a good idea, although I believe that the guys the Thule Society sent are the best in the Reich and far better than any candidate we should have. Still, I think especially we and Gunther have potential, and the screening should focus on the higher-ups first. I just have that feeling that we won't find as many promising candidates in the lower ranks.Magic research has been fleshed out in the meantime. We have 4 highly promising Thule members, 8 good ones and 17 local mages. >1-1-2 men on rituals>1-1-4 men on enchantment>1-2-3 men on battle-magic>0-2-4 men on healing>1-2-4 men on anti-magicI've placed the local auxiliaries so that they can help in areas in which we lack basic knowledge. If you don't want them to study rituals or battle-magic we should place them in other squads or let them produce more rings.I also support placing a few scientists with them, as they should be able to make nice applications for the newly found magic concepts.A clean gate opening ritual is always on our list, but I believe we should focus on it after taking the academy.
>>26267962Seconding>1-1-2 men on rituals>1-1-4 men on enchantment>1-2-3 men on battle-magic>0-2-4 men on healing>1-2-4 men on anti-magic
>>26267962I think it's especially best to focus on anybody with a name. Training mooks will give us more mages, though.Water and electricity, yes. Not a super high priority, but it'd make us look good. I think we should re-establish contact with Redding ASAP
>>26267962>The bridge is too big right nowDoesn't mean we can't consider the initializing it as a project.Besides we're not even the one's building it.Once the exact properties and tensile strength of mithril and it's alloy's are discovered, and entrust Speer to use his brilliance to personally design the dimensions of this bridge, and then let Germany at least begin the foundations.
>>26269017We need to establish mithril production on a large scale before beginning it. We should still tell Speer about this idea so he can calculate the necessary material properties and the amount of mithril needed. Refining and alloying can be done on the German side of the gate.
>>26269167>>26269167I'm worried about sending mithril ore in bulk back home.What's going to happen when the allies inevtiably get a sample?
>>26269781Depends on where they found it. If they shoot down a new type of plane made out of mithril they will probably take a look at the alloy, find out that it has very favorable properties and try to reproduce it. Then, their scientists will notice that it is partially made of an element they never saw before, and that most likely shouldn't have a place in the periodic table. This is surely highly interesting for them, and they will try to repicate it or find out where it comes from. After some time there will inevitably be a spy or traitor telling them about our portal, and until then we should have prepared a big load of mithril fighters, magic anti-air or some kind of protective shield.One thing is sure, when we send back mithril it has to be kept secret until we use it to overrun the allies.
>>26269919Well another thing is that I can see a cosmic dick move being pulled and all the mithril we send through the gate crumples to dust and our golems become useless lumps of metal. Did we send any mithril over? Because I would prefer we know if that happens sooner rather then later when we are demonstrating our miracle metal to the Führer
>>26270019For all we know, the gate may not even allow mithril passage. Imagine a truck carrying the ore running full speed and exploding on impact an invisible barrier.
>>26269919>after some timeassuming we don't already have enemy eyes and ears already
>>26270099As long as they are on this side of the gate they're harmless. If they work on the other side or are sent back from here they can report back. Sooner or later, we will need good defenses anyway, but building them will draw attention as well.What structures are on the German side? I'd prefer not to be cut off unless we want it.
>>26270153Presumably some sort of depot for the storage and preparation of goods, possibly a railway connection has already been established, on top of power lines leading to the Berlin grid.Worst case scenario is we've had a spy since the very discovery of the gate and our first visit, and each month precious info is being leaked. Not that we couldve done anything to prevent it.On the brighter side, the allies may not have a whiff about this project, but somewhere someone is going to be questioning these supplies being hauled into Berlin and vanishing mysteriously.Let's not forget this Gate is big enough for a plane to fly through, and likely a notable structure from the air.
>>26269919I'm pretty sure we already sent samples of magic items, and mithril. Either way it's still 1939--we're dealing with Poland right now I think. Not France, the UK, USSR or USA.
>>26270271That certainly doesn't mean the powers that be arent keeping close eyes on us. And yeah, we are at war with France and England at the moment.Lest we forget the Oslo report that shouldve leaked several days ago.
>>26270322You sure? Maybe I got the date wrong but OP never brought up those two countries, just Poland.
>>26270383I think that if we're still fighting Poland, then now is the perfect time to start work on the fuel-consumption magics. let's get that figured out and back through the gate before the big logistics crunch of WW2 hits and we need to fight a war on many fronts. Imagine cutting our fuel to a fourth during the Eastern front with the USSR, along with who knows what other magic we can create. we might even win against that endless winter.
>>26269919Secrecy often works against the ones who would use it. The enemy will know of it eventually, regardless of even the most stringent measures of security.No, what we must do is strike fast and hard: use the mithril we have available at once, aiding the war effort back home as much as we can. The time will never be just right – a man must make the time his own!I say we start planning for supplying mithril arms and armor as soon as possible.
>>26270480The only real reason the USSR was attacked by Germany in the first place is they had oil.
>>26270383You do realize attacking poland is what caused englad and France to declare war don't you?
>>26270799>>26270480There was talk in earlier threads that the führer is going to give the military's advice more heed, that is, things like allowing the army to crush the English at Dunkirk, or postponing or even scrapping operation barbossa.
OP, did anything actually come out of Gunther training some soldiers to become commandos?
>>26271186They were mentioned during the raid on the traitor families when they assisted the SS commandos.
I am considering making a major update to the event log of the wikia.Like, a summary dates and everything important and of note that has happened up till now.What do you guys think?
>>26273303If you wish to do so I won't stop you. Do you plan to do it chronologically or split it into storylines?
>>26273403I was thinking more along the lines of either diary format from Hans perspective, or simple date:event summary. But mostly yes, chronologically.Which sounds better?
>>26273417Do it from Hans perspective. And at what stage is WWII in our world at this time?
>>26273966The Reich and the Soviets split Poland. Now, we prepare the blitzkrieg against France while the Russians will soon start a campaign in Finland. So, it's pretty calm right now.
>>26274361This is good. Extremely good. In fact, diverting resources to "Fantasyland" might prevent the Reich from engaging the Soviets in a disastrous war.What our opinions on the jews and the aryan race?
>>26274638With "our", do you mean the Oberst, the NS ideology or the current situation in the Reich?
>>26274638From a previous thread:>One important point to note, 'full political and civil rights' under the Reich would be very different to that enjoyed in a Western democracy today. Civil rights would mean that a German citizen could go about their business, as long as they stayed out of politics, without much fear of government involvement. If this citizen wanted to get political, they have the 'right' to join the Party.>Racial pyramid aside, we decided several threads ago that Landa was a pragmatist at heart. While he would likely be a member of the Party, his actions are driven primarily out patriotism rather than Nazi ideology. Therefore, while he would create a racial hierarchy to appease Command, I doubt that he'd promote or enforce it too strongly.I should really add this to the wiki, it gets asked every few threads or so.
>>26275038That is good to hear. What will our stance be if the Reich tries to extend its Final Solution to Fantasyland?
>>26275101We can cross that bridge when we come to it.I very much doubt that the Reich would do this however. As the Gate opens only fractionally once a month, it'd be far too inefficient a means for disposing of the Earth Jewish population. After all, the Final Solution was designed by the SS to be as quick and efficient as possible.If you mean if they try and racially exterminate races here; well thats probably a good few decades in the future. So future Oberst can worry about that.
>>26275038This is of course, something that would likely be up to HQ to decide.I'm sure the actual Hans Landa doesn't give a damn one way or the other, so long as they prove valuable.It's how he treated the Jews, he didn't hate them personally, it was his job.