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Suptg Archive: (scroll to bottom)

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Shadow+Quest+

Archive compiled using with only story posts for easier read-through (up to thread 30):

Book 1: http://pastebin.com/iaag8N6Y
Book 2: http://pastebin.com/JcexH2Jv

Twitter (quest times, cancellations, updates):

https://twitter.com/ShadowMaster_tg

Theme music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLTQ5PlEWko

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Notes on Rolls and Voting:

When I request rolls, each set of three rolls counts for one action. For example, a two-step plan would take the first 6 linked rolls. A particularly bad failure can stop your plans early.

When rolling 1d100, I will consider criticals within the first ten linked rolls. Only criticals that occur in the first three rolls will be counted as "supercrits". This is still the case even if you'd have plan long enough to require more than ten rolls.

When I roll 1d20, the rules are the same, but I only consider criticals for the first five rolls, rather than ten. Criticals in the first three are still "supercrits".

When a plot choice results in extensive debate, I'll try to weed out the most popular trains of thought, and then call a vote on them. When voting, please respond with only a link back to the post and the number corresponding to your opinion. Other votes are discounted.

Finally, note that this is not a democracy; it is a benevolent dictatorship.
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Holy shit I'm in at the start.
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>>26179800
SM you're my waifu
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We should refrain from buying MP4 from the earth tree the second we get 20xp.

If there is one in the water tree, then buying the one in the earth tree will put a 25xp roadblock in our completion of the water tree.

And we need to complete the water tree for HYDRA. So, at the very least, we should buy surge to check for a water tree Magic Power before we buy the earth tree Magic Power.

Also a kinda unrelated thought, Hydra works only in the dark, I wonder if buying Pure Darkness would let it work anywhere.
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Daily.
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IT'S FUCKING GO TIME!
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>>26179858
Hydra and pure darkness are linked by an upgrade, which probably removes the limitation and possibly expands the range of Hydra from cutting/piercing (would piercing count?)
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Recent Events Summary:

You decided that one of the keys to the vault under Jacob's Field needed to be collected - the lightning key, possessed by the late Duke Vellik of Kelvere. You flew to Evinbrook, and found the castle city locked in a battle for survival. Kan-Abar's armies returned, with two demon lords in tow.

Duke Vellik made a plan to stall the demons with patched-up dwarven technology. You brought him to safety in exchange for the lightning key. You offered him further sanctuary, but he chose to remain with what forces he has left and make the Kanians pay for every inch they take.

In order to permanently resolve this situation, you need the rightful king back on the throne of Kan-Abar - Obis Vin. You decided to track him down, and you've followed him as far as Port Vanta, where he was looking for an old ally, a pirate captain named Blackwater who used to work as a privateer for Kan-Abar. Blackwater, however, made an enemy in a particular crime lord - Damian Vonnegut. You leanred that after he asked around too much for Blackwater, Obis vanished, and you suspected Vonnegut was the culprit after a tip from a tavern keeper.

You were able to locate Vonnegut's base of operations under the city, and as you snuck in, you encountered Freja Blackwater, the infamous pirate's daughter. After a brief confrontation, you figured out that your goals were the same, and joined forces. You were able to find Obis, who had been captured by Vonnegut - and after forcing Vonnegut into a corner by consuming nearly his entire crew, he struck a deal with you for the king's release.

>con't
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>>26179839

that's both creepy and flattering

no homo
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>>26179903
I'd think piercing would count. Punctures are just small circular cuts that are usually deep
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>mfw I catch Shadow Quest as it starts for once
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Auriel sees great opportunities ahead. She wants to try to bring together Felnoir, Kelvere, Arland, and Archon into an alliance to turn and face the Kan-Abar army and the demon lords currently consolidating their position from Evinbrook.

You met with Felnoir's de-facto leader, the mayor of Maven Lake - and Freja's infamous father, Vidar Blackwater. He's promised to be in touch with Auriel. Meanwhile, you flew back to Archon to explain the situation to Fang, Sir Flint, and Adavan.

Abigail's entrance into the Archonium was sudden, and not what you expected. She is lost somewhere within the enchanted gateway, stuck between bits of her personality given life and pitted against one another. With no other recourse, you dived in after her, and are now deep within the recesses of your own mind, where you have encountered and merged with your Humanity.
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What is with you people and Hydra? Its not even that good
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>>26179800
Aw yeah Shadow Quest Time!
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Ability Tree

GREEN abilities have been unlocked and learned.

BLUE abilties are unlocked, but are not yet purchased.

RED abilities are revealed, but locked due to prerequisites.

UNDERLINED abilities are active-use, as opposed to passive. Not all active abilities require mana.

All Revealed Ability Descriptions:

http://pastebin.com/Vqpw3CZB

Books the Main Character has read:

http://pastebin.com/dAXR00gP

Character Sheet including learned abilities and other important information:

http://pastebin.com/F6z52eZb


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Current Statistics:

HP: 81/81
Mana: 34/34
EXP: 19
Temerity: 319

Shards of Erebus:
(Isolation) - Broken
{Hunger} - Strong
(Silence) - Empowered

New Shards:
{Humanity} - Resonant

--Summoned--

None

--Automatons--

Earthen Construct (currently in Haven)

--Equipment--

Utility belt with purse

--Inventory--

Moonsong Shards x 3
Sun-Moon Key
Lightning Key
Succubus Reagents x 1

--Current Location--

Within the Archonium
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>Last time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVxiUNnDPJ4

You have a slight sense of vertigo as the faint 'horizon' of the colorless void flips and turns. You blink, and a new world settles around you.

You stand on a platform of paved onyx. Rising above you is a construct of ivory marble and gleaming steel. The white stone and smooth iron twist together in an elegant spiral tower that seems too thin to support its own weight. The inside of the construct itself is filled with gears, pistons, and sparks of dark magic. The heavy, rhythmic thundering of the machine echoes through the room. And it is a room - all of this is encased in the black slate you're standing on.

Ahead of you are three hallways. Behind you is a great door of slate, marble and steel. The door is tall, and carved with strange figures and letters that you cannot read. Three jagged holes are set in the center of the door.

It feels a bit odd, talking to yourself, but you're glad for the company. You're tired of being alone inside this strange place. You focus on the Humanity within you. <Well...as the humans say, two heads are better than one.>

<Indeed.> Humanity falls quiet for a moment. <Three holes in that door there...three halls.>

<And three shards of darkness.>

<Not a coincidence.>

<Indeed.>

You feel a glow of agreement from Humanity. <Stay vigilent. No telling what we'll find...in whatever this place is.>

Three halls lie before you. Which do you choose to enter?

>left
>center
>right
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daily reminder pls to pls be nice in the thread pls
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>>26179980
>left
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>>26179980
Center
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>>26179980
center.
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>>26179980
>right
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>>26179980
Left.
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>>26179982
No
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>>26179800
IT'S SHADOW TIME!

>>26179946
Basically we don't have to worry about one type of damage ever again and it's located in a tree where every upgrade is a major upgrade.
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>>26179980

Left
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>>26179982
And now everyone will call you a dick
>>26179980
Left for great justice
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So we are capable of creating new shards, just like original erebus did.
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>>26179980
left pls
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>>26179980
>center
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>>26179980
Center
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>>26179980
ask humanity which way he feels abigail down. not sure if we should go with that one first or not though
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>>26179980
We do this the old fashioned way, start with left and work our way to the right.
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>>26180019
>Calling pls a dick
>2010+3y7m and 22d
>shigglet
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>>26179980
>left
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If these lead to confrontations with the shards, then I would expect that they are in order of our meeting with them.

So middle is probably hunger, but left/right could be either silence or isolation.
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>Fang's face when we come out of this thing with a massive power boost and voices in our head
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>>26179980
How about we summon wisp and send him down the paths to scout them out?
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>>26180078

Oh he doesn't need to know about the voices.
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>>26179980
>left
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>>26180054
I said people would call him a dick Ala:>>26180012
I like him
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Left is popular enough to get locked in.

Do you summon wisp to scout for you? 1 mana to summon, 1 mana to order him to scout.
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>>26180113
Sure, wynaut.
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>>26180113

Yeah, sure why not.
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>>26180113

Yes, pull wispbro out to scout.
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>>26180113
>1 mana to order him to scout.

I thought that it was just conflict that caused him to consume mana, or is this a special case?
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>>26180113
I say yes
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>>26180135
Its when we order him about
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>>26180113
Sure, sounds like a good idea.
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>>26180135

Any direct order will charge you mana. I should have been more clear in the pastebin, that just says battle orders or something.
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>>26180229
You know I bet there is some upgrade in the summon tree that removes that, or at least lowers the mana cost
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You summon your wisp.

It zips out and flies around you head several times, then settles in front of you.

<Go into the left passage and scout down a ways. Tell me what you find.>

The wisp bobs and flies into the dark entrance, vanishing.

>mana: 32/34

A few minutes pass. You wait patiently.

The wisp reappears.

You see the image of a regular stone corridor, continuing on for some time. It turns at a sharp right angle...to another corridor. And then it turns again, another right angle.

This continues until you think the hall is about to intersect with the entrance point, but that never happens. Instead, the halls start to grow shorter, the turns more frequent. It's wrapping down into the center of a spiral.

Eventually, the hallways end at a door made of the slate-marble-steel that seems to dominate this place.

The images fade. The wisp couldn't get past the door.

What do you do?

>head to the door
>send it to scout one of the other passages
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>>26180287
>>head to the door
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>>26180287
>send it to scout one of the other passages
Center
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>>26180287
>head to the door
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>>26180287
>head to the door
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>>26180266
It would be very far along, and more EXP than is worth investing in a tree that won't reach our current level of power for a long time.

>>26180287
Head to the door, it's the best lead we have and we don't want to waste more time or mana.

We have to go down each hallway anyways.
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>>26180287
>head to the door
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>>26180287
Is this a bloody labyrinth?
Good thing we sent wispbro left then
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>>26180287
let's send the wisp to see the others, make sure there isn't anything unpleasant down them
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Check out that door
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>>26180351
>Thread description
>Shadow journeys into the maze of his own mind.

It's a labyrinth alright.
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>>26180329
so what should we invest our exp in then? the water tree so we can get the next regen?
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>>26180387
Yes
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To the door!

>>26180387

seems like everyone wants to save for MP4 for the moment
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>This is a metaphor for how we spend 400 threads arguing about all this stupid shit but end up getting to the same result

I see you SM
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>>26180387
Basically, any tree we've already bought stuff from. Water, Spirit, Earth, Shadow Magic/Physical, Poison.
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>>26180387
Water tree completion is the goal at the moment and we should most likely get Frostbite or tidal forces when possible.
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>>26180380
I feel really dumb now
>>26180387
Tidal force maybe? That is if we aren't saving for that sweet sweet MP 4
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>>26180387
>>26180406
Though following from end of last thread discussion and the restating at the beginning of this one, we should probably buy tidal force before we get the earth trees magic power so we don't end up having to save up 25 exp to finish the water tree if it ends up containing a MP.
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>>26180406
I read the past few threads SM what I learned was the anti-waifu fags were correct all along since going with Abigail would've been ultimate waifu route...
I'm proud of you SM for showing us the one true path.
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>>26180442
Tidal force man. It leads to two things instead of one, costs the same and leads to the same thing as frostbite
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>>26180481

It's less "the anti-waifu fags were right" and more "this is exactly what we were warned about in the Archonium and it would be pretty stupid to willingly stay with a happy illusion when we know it's not real".

Abby still means quite a lot to us.
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>>26180481
>Antiwaifufags

the same 3 faggots that kept the shitstorm going any time a female came into view
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>>26180387
>>26180406
>>26180412
>>26180442
>>26180477
okay based on the input seems like we should save that sweet MP 4 then buy tidal force maybe? depends on what MP 4 unlocks.... I guess.
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You decide to try your luck with the spiral hallway. You sprint through the entrance and down the lengthy paths of stone. It holds true to what the wisp told you.

You arrive at the door.

Close up, you can see dark gears matching the ones of the central chamber. You feel a slight hum in your chest. Power flows through the depths of this place, though you can't well sense it. Everything is blotted out, like black ink on a black background.

You place a hand on the door. Power snaps through. It begins to shudder open. The gears click, and the doors slow, and grind to a halt. A vast darkness looms before you.

Wisp tries to move ahead of you, but it can't. It pushes and strains, but it can't clamber through the thick darkness.

What do you do?

>enter the passage
>go back, scout another path
>something else
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>>26180521
other way around. buy tidal force. see if there is a mp in water tree. if so buy it. we dont want to place a huge roadblock to completion of the water tree right now
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>>26180529

Let's get it over with.

Enter the passage.
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>>26180529
>enter the passage
Allons-y!
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>>26180529
i suspect all the paths are like this. onward, into the depths of the abyss
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>>26180529
>enter the passage
so what do you think anons isolation or silence?
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>>26180529
>something else
Wiggle a shadowy appendage around in the darkness.
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>>26180529
>enter the passage
we've come this far might as well enter
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>>26180529
>enter the passage
Tell wisp to scout the other 2 paths and then come back here to wait for us.
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>>26180555
isolation
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>>26180529
>>enter the passage
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>>26180529
>enter the passage
i wouldn't be surprised if this has something to do with isolation
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>>26180565

Good plan, will do.

Only 1 mana anyway.

ONWARD
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>>26180503

Not everything is so black and white, ignoring the first illusion (Like I wanted I admit) where we saw john have a happy life could have made things more difficult with humanity (in different degrees). So there is a middle road to walk if we want to be smart and reasonable.
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>>26180592

Agreed, I think one of the points people were trying to make during that whole sequence is that while we do care about Abby a lot, we shouldn't define ourselves around her. We are still Shadow whether or not she's around.
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You press up to the thick, black darkness. It parts for you. You walk forward slowly.

The darkness seals up behind you. You try to move back, and discover that you can't.

With no choice, you push on, forging uncertainly into the black.

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After a few moments, the darkness ends.

You're in a small stone chamber, the same black slate as before. Scattered about the stone are battered pieces of onyx crystal. They ooze a cold blackness. It feels...lonely.

Isolation.

Of course - it broke when you merged with Humanity.

You test the dark passage at your back. It still refuses to yield. Maybe you have to do something about Isolation before you can return?

What do you do?

>try to repair Isolation
>ask Humanity its opinion
>consume the remains of the shard
>bash what remains of the shards into dust
>some other strategy
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>>26180649
>try to repair Isolation
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>>26180649
CAN WE FIX IT?

PROBABLY.
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>>26180649
>>some other strategy
Try to shove the Isolation shards into Humanity.
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>>26180649
>>try to repair Isolation
Lets see if he actually says something
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>>26180649
fix our best friendshard
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>>26180649
>ask Humanity its opinion
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>>26180649
>try to repair Isolation
Isolation was our first broshard, we can't leave it busted like this.
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>>26180649
>try to repair Isolation
>ask Humanity its opinion
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>>26180649
Repair the poor guy. I want to talk to him...
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>>26180675
For what purpose?
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>>26180649
Bash the shit out of that damn isolation.
Abby is our waifu and we don't need it's shit.
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>>26180675
That could either work very well or blow up in our face spectacularly.
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>>26180649
>try to repair Isolation

Poor guy deserve better, he's saved our ass on a number of occasions.
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>>26180649
Talk to the shards while we try to repair isolation.
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>>26180700
We know these shards are holding back some kind of seal.
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>>26180694
All the shards are trying to merge together. Maybe if we kickstart the process on our own, we can shape it more to our will instead of just letting the nature of the shards run their course.
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>people dont realize Isolation is our main defensive shard

Its like you retards want us to die or something
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>>26180700
Bitch you best be playing.
Iso is an Original Gangsta
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I'll write Humanity's opinion while you start the repairs.
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>>26180649
Can we change isolation? When we faced the lonely shadow, we overwhelmed it with humanity and managed a merger. Could we try to use humanity to alter isolation into a positive shard?
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>>26180700
You playin wit me? Isolation is our nigga.
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>>26180700
Are you an idiot? If the shards are destroyed completely, bad shit will go down.
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>>26180730

He was the first shard we got, wasn't it? Was that the one that we rolled the double 100's on consuming it?
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>>26180722
>>26180730
I be playing dawg, just checking for latch lickers.
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>>26180754
Yep
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>>26180741
Oh yes one of our many positive shards, Like sneaky bastard or the hungry bastard?
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>>26180754
Sort of. We rolled double 100's for carebarestare, and got it to fuse with us to not be alone anymore.
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>>26180754
Actually, we overloaded it with Humanity and merged with it.
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>>26180761
>I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED GUYS SERIOUSLY!
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>>26180735
guys what if Humanity and Isolation aren't compatible what if we have to choose between them?
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>>26180775
>>26180773

Ah, right, I forgot.

I hope we can do the same again.
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>>26180781
Iso all the way man
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>>26180781
I am not prepared for the feels that would occur if that happened.
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>>26180781
that would be dumb because humanity contains every emotion
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>>26180781
>Isolation has aided us by itself so many times, taking the hit when we needed it. I think it wants us to succeed, if only so people will stop trying to kill us and leave us alone
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>>26180781
Actually. Out of all the shards, Isolation would be the most compatible. Especially with how we merged with it by appealing to it with our Humanity.
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>>26180781
>What if fear makes our friends afraid of us?
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>>26180781
I would choose Isolation
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You gather the shards into the center of the room. Piece by piece, a lump of shattered crystal begins to form.

<What do you think?> you ask Humanity. <I think we've no choice but to piece it back together.>

<Maybe, but what then?>

<What do you mean?>

<The first time we met, it lashed out as soon as we grew to close for its liking,> Humanity says. <It may have served you well while tame...but who's to say it won't have ideas of its own in this place?>

You put the last pieces of Isolation together. It's still just a pile of bits, but you can feel a familiar power begin to resonate within it. A bit more, and it might merge.

<Well, what do you suggest? We don't have a lot of options.>

<...I feel...like I could do something,> Humanity says. <...be the mortar that holds it together.>

<Really? More powerful than before?>

<...different. More powerful...I'm not sure.>

What do you do?

>repair Isolation yourself
>let Humanity put a hard hat on
>some other strategy
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>>26180816
then we obviously slap the shit out of fear itself
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>>26180816
>What if servant makes Abby stop aging?
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>>26180779
>2013
>Caring about my bait
Jesus man, don't need to get so


EDGY
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>>26180805
humm. it kind of makes me wonder if every shard wants its oposite. isolation wants to not be so alone. hunger want to be saited. maybe silence wants to be heard.

huh. weird thought. if every shard wants its opposite. we seem to want justice. so we are the opposite of justice. something like indifference.
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>>26180831
Aww you must not have been there for that argument. That one was a doozy
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>>26180827
have both us and humanity repair it together
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>>26180827
>let Humanity put a hard hat on
We got Isolation to join us willingly before using our humanity, let's let it work its magic one more time.
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>>26180827

Let Humanity take a shot at it.

That's how we got it before, basically.
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>>26180827
>humanity did sway Isolation to merge with us, lets try to talk to it with humanity
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>>26180827
>let Humanity put a hard hat on
HAH!. I knew this would happen.>>26180675
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>>26180827
>let Humanity put a hard hat on
Seems like a good way to move away from all this inevitable fate junk.
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>>26180827
>lets try to connect with Isolation, we can be alone together like we said before
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>>26180827
>>repair Isolation yourself
Iso is cool He took the hits for us before we wont fuck with him now
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>>26180851
I've missed quite a few arguments
sadly
>>26180827
can we do both?
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>>26180827
Let humanity put a hard hat on
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Note: letting Humanity repair Isolation doesn't mean that it does all the work. It will just be helping you.
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>>26180827
>repair Isolation yourself

Iso has been with us the longest and so we should be the one to put him back together.
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>>26180827
>>26180856
I agree with this guy, we must show isolation that we can be alone, together. I mean, don't you wanna go do some deep introspection on some random rooftop again?
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>>26180827
Let's repair Isolation ourselves. who knows if letting Humanity at it will change it's function?
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>>26180827
>repair Isolation yourself
for some reason i feel that letting humanity take a crack at it will humanize the thing more. like turn it from isolation into something more human like lonleyness
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>>26180884
It was hilarious someone tried to get us not to buy the fear spell because our friends all be afraid of us
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>>26180896
then both of us, Humanity helped Isolation see we could be together before
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>>26180906
I don't think it would change it too radically, just shift it more toward a human frame of reference.

Guarding maybe, instead of isolation.
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>>26180827
>let Humanity put a hard hat on
Isolation is a brol, and I'd think it would be more a bro as it's own shard over a part of Erebus' plot
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>>26180896
right, then. I suppose both of us working together makes sense. let's take advantage of Resonance.
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>>26180926
fuck that I like inhuman Iso.
We aint no pansy ass human
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>>26180827
<Why have you returned, all I want is to be left alone>

<Then we should be alone with all of us>
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>>26180827
>repair Isolation yourself
I don't want Iso to turn into loneliness
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>>26180922

I'm pretty sure that guy was joking.

I mean, no one's that stupid.

Right?

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more debate than expected
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Vote 1:
>repair it by yourself

Vote 2:
>repair it with Humanity helping

Votes must be limited to a link to this post and a number to be counted.
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>>26180896
Both then. We won over Isolation with Humanity before, makes sense to go for it again.
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>>26180966
1
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>>26180966
2
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>>26180953
>tfw when Iso goes from a hardcore G into an Emo
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What if fusing humanity with isolation makes
>tfw no qt3.14 shadow mage gf
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>>26180966
>I'm pretty sure that guy was joking.
I was being a prick because of the week long "ASK EVERYONE ABOUT ALL THE SERVANTS EVURRR SO WE DON'T MAKE A LEGION!!!!!!"
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I think everyone is too focused on Iso becoming something less good when its our chance to get it out of Erebus' plot.
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>>26181012
Aww why did you spoil it I actually thought you were actually that stupid.
>>26181023
Erebus's plot is already in shambles thanks to humanity shard
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>>26181012

I know what you mean.

>>26180966

CuTtInG oFf VoTeS
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>>26181058
I would have rather we had gone with working with humanity anyways. It was how we got the shard in the first place, and it probably would have made it easier for us to repair it.

Also it might have humanized the shard enough that we could talk to it.
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>>26180966
2
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alone: 13

together: 10

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Roll 1d100
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>>26181058
1 shard to 3 shards of Erebus. I don't mind repairing it on our own, but I feel like people are basically waifuing the shard over thinking this logically.
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>>26181083
pretty sure the total is at
1: 13
2: 10
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Rolled 38

>>26181113
rolling
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Rolled 61

>>26181113
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>>26181090
We got enough things to talk to. I like the way Iso just chills until we need him
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Rolled 98

>>26181113
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Rolled 93

>>26181113
>natural 1
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Rolled 69

>>26181113
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This probably isn't a succeed/fail choice, but a thematic one, like the rest of this place has been.

By choosing not to mix isolation with humanity, we are saying that we are going to keep our humanity and our nature separate.
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>>26181140
>>26181130
>>26181129
damned dice
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>>26181129
No deleting your rolls, faggot! SM, he had 25, please don't punish us.
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>>26181113
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Rolled 12

>>26181113
Rollin'
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Rolled 67

>>26181113
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Rolled 43

>>26181129
Duuude, don't be a faggot. Why you gotta go deleting rolls?
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Rolled 34

>>26181113
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Rolled 25

>>26181113
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>>26181193
>>26181129
Noooooo SM please don't punish us he had a 25
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>>26181158
....Wow i must be tired, that came out really captain obvious.

I meant to say, we are choosing what we have, we are keeping a divider between the two; we are human -and- and shadow, rather than a humanlike shadow.
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Why even bother deleting rolls in this day and age?
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>>26181193

Please have mercy upon us my lord

we are but mere mortals please forgive this transgression.
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>>26181229
*By choosing what we have, that is.
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Rolled 18

>>26181113
It is Isolation. We must do it ALONE.
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>>26181224
>>26181174
>>26181254

I won't punish you. If I did, people who enjoy rabble rousing would purposely delete rolls.
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>>26181266
a just and fair point
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>>26181266
you truly are a benevolent dictator.
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>>26181266
the real reason he won't punish us is because those shitty rolls were punishment enough... Right?
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>>26181158
>>26181229
It's definitely thematic. But I think keeping our nature and humanity separate is kind of dumb since our nature is too destroy all life. I think by not letting Humanity help us work it over, we're basically letting a part of Erebus sit and fester in us over subsuming it into something new and not part of some heinous plot. It's like we're willingly choosing to be bi-polar. Humanity is the one chance we got to stop this from what I can tell and we're not even utilizing it.
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>>26181297
Your levels of faggotry are astounding

You probably think it's funny to roll 1d1s too.
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>>26181329
The occasional 1d1 on an important roll is funny.
Deleting shitty rolls is not
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>>26181297
>in other words you could've just told everyone that you were a massive faggot who has nothing to do except ruin other's fun because you have nothing else going on.
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>The occasional 1d1 on an important roll is funny.

No it's not, they keep giving me heart attacks.
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Rolled 1

>>26181329
It isn't?
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<No,> you say. <Let me do this alone. We have an understanding.>

<...if you say so.>

You push your power into Isolation.

The crystal glows. Green-black light flares between the pieces of the crystal. They begin to fuse back together.

Eventually, the crystal is completed.

>{Isolation} - Normal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ncsItpXptQ

The crystal wavers, then warps. It grows, and settles into the silent, looming form of Isolation.

It looks at you. It says nothing, and does nothing. It just stares.

Its gaze slowly shifts to the left.

You look to your side. Humanity is there - you're not sure when it appeared. Is there some sort of reaction between the two.

<...it's staring at me,> Humanity says.

<It does that.> You raise an arm to Isolation. Its eyes flick back to you. <Do you know what's going on?>

It nods.

<Want to help us get out of here?>

Isolation walks up to you. It plants itself next to you. The entire time it doesn't take its eyes off Humanity. It keeps itself firmly facing the flickering fire.

<I don't think it likes me,> Humanity says. <Hey, say something. I'm not going to bite.>

For a moment, Isolation's face transforms into a giant, toothless mouth. It lets out a shriek like nails on a chalkboard. Just as suddenly, it settles back at your side.

<...I guess that's a no,> Humanity says.

<Why are you suddenly here, anyway?> you ask.

Humanity gives you a shrug of its fire. <I'm not sure. I wasn't one moment, and then I was outside looking at you. Must have something to do with him.>

Hmm.

What do you do now?

>return to the central chamber and chose another path
>some other strategy
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>>26181364
And by occasional, you must mean one or two every thread, going by how often that happens.
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>>26181424
>return to the central chamber and chose another path
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>>26181424

Damn we should've used Humanity to help repair it, would've created a more harmonious whole I bet.
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>>26181446
I only did it once and it was on the eleventh roll anyway.
>>26181424
Lets head to the middle one
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>>26181424
>return to the central chamber and chose another path
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Rolled 6

>>26181424
>return to the central chamber and chose another path
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>>26181424
Ooooh, we've got a posse going.

>Isolation's face transforms into a giant, toothless mouth. It lets out a shriek like nails on a chalkboard.
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

Let's head back to the central chamber and chose the center path.
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Rolled 36

>>26181424
humm. humans are social animals. by their nature they hate isolation. isolation might be feeling that now. he kind of reminds me of one of those abused puppies
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>>26181424
>return to the central chamber and chose another path
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>>26181424
>return
so is Isolation with us and just doesn't like humanity?
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>>26181424
>return to the central chamber and chose another path
Don't forget to get the info from Wisp
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>>26181424
Let's head on back. Try to talk to Iso, thank him for being with us for so long.
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>>26181424
I don't quite understand are both of the shards following us
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>>26181424
take some time to try and resonate with Isolation, it may not like a lot of things but we're still bros 4 life
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>>26181542
>>26181516

Seconding these.
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>>26181424
Head on back, but try to talk to Iso.
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>>26181424
>return to the central chamber and chose another path
Play mediator as we go.
<It probably doesn't like you because it broke trying to protect me from your flames. I don't hold any grudge for that affair, but it possibly does.>
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>pic related
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>>26181424
tell isolation that humanity is a friend. they don't have to hang out too much though, just cooperate.
>>26181542
>>26181560
these too
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>>26181516
Yeah, why not. I want to see just how sentient this dude is, and his opinion of Silence.

It would be a pretty fun scene.
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>>26181560
Probably add to Isolation that the whole thing was our idea anyway and Humanity wanted us to back out.
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The darkness behind you has vanished. You walk forward. Humanity floats in the air, a crystal on fire. Isolation sticks next to you, staying opposite you from Humanity. You don't get far before you run into your wisp.

Images flash in your mind. The central hallway seems to lead to another slate door. It's crossed several over with silvery chains and padlocks, obviously keeping something inside.

The right hall goes straight on for a time, and then ends at a strange statue. It looks like a lion with a human's head.

You return to the central chamber, Humanity on one side, Isolation on the other.

Which way do you go now?

>center
>right
>some other strategy
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>>26181604
>right
Da fuck
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>>26181604
right
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>>26181604
Make sure we've got everything sorted out with Iso like we've been talking about.
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>>26181604
>Right

Thinking this is CONSUMO
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>>26181604
>right
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>>26181604
>It looks like a lion with a human's head.

AWWWWW SHIT RIDDLE TIME
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>>26181604
>>26181588
>>26181560
>>26181542
take a moment for these
>right
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>>26181604
>some other strategy
These
>>26181588
>>26181597
Hunger and Silence are not bros. So we should get some cooperation going before confronting them.
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>>26181424
>Isolation
>Walks up to you.
>Plants itself next to you.
>Settles back at your side.

How ironic.
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>>26181604
Let's go right

>>26181622
Sounds like a plan.
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>>26181604
>>26181622
>some other strategy
We should probably try and work through whatever it is that's keeping us from having our cake and eating it too.

While this >>26181507 is true, it's not necessary to keep to one extreme or the other. The shard already recognizes that Isolation doesn't have to mean being cut off from everything forever, or it wouldn't have possibly joined with us in the first place, let alone tolerated other shards, or our interaction with people up to this point.

The Humanity shard is just the crystallization of that interaction, so it's probably going to take some acclimating to, but it should still be possible to get Isolation to the point where it can at least find some element of Humanity that it can start to learn to tolerate.
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>>26181604
>center
Right is probably Silence, he's a dickass.

I wanna see Darkxis. He's also a dickass, but a more entertaining one.
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I still think we should have let humanity influence him, it could have made it less... hostile. Focusing on the protection and shielding aspects rather than keeping us away from -everything-

Maybe we will be able to shape it anyways. Feels somewhat morally better than just flat warping it's mind.

>>26181604
Right. Going on guesswork, right is Silence, and center is Hunger (who is still partially independent, thus chained)
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>>26181672
if its a fight between darksis and silence, id rather save darkxis for last
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Darkxis was poisonous so we might wanna get robust immunity before heading there.
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>>26181714
Oh boy here we go.

MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE
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>>26181734
>MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE MUH POISON TREE?
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>>26181693

Nah, Darkxis could actually fight us, Silence was a slippery fuck. In here he doesn't have where to run.
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>>26181734
its no different then those wanting summoning, or earth, or water, or Hydra.
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>>26181734
He is not incorrect you know
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>Everyone thinks it's a Sphinx
>inb4 fucking Manticore
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>>26181754
It's very different. It is out of the way of long term goals, and only tangentially relevant to our fighting style and tactics.
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>>26181751
exactly, id rather have everyone else taken care of before we literally breack the chains keeping Darkxis inside
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>>26181754
Well the difference with wanting summoning is that We still dont have a single summon other than wispbro
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>>26181754
None of them manage to be as obnoxious about it as you.
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>>26181791
Robust immunity has nothing to do with dealing poison.
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>>26181734
>>26181748

Damn man, he is actually making a good point but you are just making a complete asshole of yourself without making any reasonable argument.

I say go ahead buy lets buy robust immunity. And make any confrontation with Darkxis easier.
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>>26181797
>but what about Muscle Wisp?
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<So,> you say to Isolation. <Thanks for your help so far. I feel like we've been through a lot. You've always been loyal, since we met.>

Isolation nods once. It says nothing. Its eyes are still on Humanity.

<Stop staring at me,> Humanity says.

Isolation's green light flickers threateningly. It says nothing.

<He isn't a talkative fellow, is he?>

<It did break protecting me from your fire,> you say. <I'm not surprised he doesn't think highly of you.>

<Well, he'll have to deal with it. We've got bigger fish to fry.>

You glance at Isolation. <Humanity's on our side. Try to keep a level head.>

Isolation's gaze flicks at you, then back to Humanity. He really isn't very emotive, but you get a certain feeling of...temporary acquiescence.

>you decide on the right hallway

<Let's go this way. I think we should save that chained door for last.>

<Probably a good idea,> Humanity says.

You walk down the right-hand hall and eventually reach the statue. Your small party of the two shards, yourself, and wisp, gather in front of it.

<...what now?> Humanity says aloud.

<My touch worked last time. Maybe again?> You reach out and brush the statue.

Black power flares. The neck stretches up, and yawns. <I have company.>

<...so...which one are you?> Humanity asks.

<I'm more interested in who the hell you are. What's with that fire?>

<I'm Humanity. I'm new.>

<...right.> The head of the statue looks back at you. <Silence, of course. It's about time you got here.>

<...we need to escape this place,> you say. <I think I need your help to open the door back there.>

<That a fact?> The statue smiles. <How about a game?>

<What sort of game?>

<The rules are simple,> it says. <Answer all my riddles correctly, and I'll help you. Get them wrong, and I blow you up and take command of this little show.>

You can practically feel Humanity raise an eyebrow. <You've got nowhere to run, this time. We'll smash you to pieces.>

<And this time, I'm better prepared,> Silence says.

>con't
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You consider the situation.

>play along for now
>smash that statue to bits
>some others strategy
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>>26181817
> Hes not muscle wisp yet, he doesn't have any arms
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>>26181838

>say something else (write in)
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>>26181838

Play along, of course. Gimme dem riddles.
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>>26181838
>play along for now
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>>26181838
For a shard of silence you sure dont know when to shut the hell up, Tell me your damn riddles and lets go.
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>>26181838
<You think you can take on all three of us and win? you were only a problem because you were sneaky.>
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>>26181838
<So that's it? All this and idel threats are all you have? You are me, we are eachother. Stronger then we could be separate, and you know it. You WILL live on, this time I can promise you that>
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>>26181838

Lets try to talk with him first. Try to convince him that we can be stronger together than if he tries to destroy us.
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>>26181825
Play along.

Despite everything I rather like silence.
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Damnit, I was hoping for a Manticore. It would kind of fit thematically, since the whole point of a Manticore is that it's just a fucking monster but it wears a human face to trick people into thinking it's something that can be reasoned with.
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I fully expect Silence to cheat at whatever game he proposes.
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>>26181844
>saying summoning could give him arms at a later point
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>>26181898

could have gone either way really
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>>26181850
<It's more advantageous to us as well as you to simply cooperate, you don't want to become trapped in here, do you?>
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>>26181825
>>some others strategy
Suggest that we will come back later after securing Hunger, and see how Silence reacts.

Silence obviously wants to be in charge, but it will probably realize that if we leave it here to fight Hunger and Hunger defeats us, there's next to no chance Silence will be able to battle-of-wits Hunger to death, since it will just go NOPE and eat him.

Maybe the threat of potentially losing full control to Hunger will make him want to sweeten the pot a little, if only by offering to cut the riddle contest slightly shorter than he would have otherwise.

ib4 trying to trick Silence backfires spectacularly
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>>26181900
obviously. that's why he's 'better prepared'. we need to find something to get him to play on the level.
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>>26181838
>play along for now
but if I win you merge with me
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>>26181900
Well then we don't just give a flat answer, we deconstruct each riddle in front of him and point out every hole in it.
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>>26181901
> Forgetting Summoning lets us change templates eventually
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>>26181900

>Silence
>not being a dickass

Let's be careful with our wording. It might be those stupid riddles where the answer is "the" or "it", or something equally simple and obvious.
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>>26181825

<The fact that you are trying to make a deal makes me think you don't really think you could take me on. You also aren't the most trust worry fellow if you think I forgotten.>
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>>26181920
>>26181925

YES. there we go, there's our out to make him not cheat! there's no way he can fuck with hunger.
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>>26181825
>>26181920
Might as well give this a shot. Fuck Silence, that lying fuck. Also, if tg meta quest is anything to go off of, us answering riddles will only end in facepalms
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>>26181953
Very true
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>>26181956

locked for trying to talk him out of it first
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>>26181838
if we must play along make it riddle for riddle, 3 each and we ask eachother riddles
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>>26181975
><What's in my pocket?>
><You haven't bought that ability yet.>
><...Fuck.>
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>>26181970
try to Bilbo/Golum the riddles, he asks, then us
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>>26181988
<Wrong, the answer is Nothing>
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>>26181995
>>26181975
I really dont like /tg/'s chances of not coming up with non retarded riddles
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>>26181988
><What's gonna beat the crap out of you again if you don't behave?>
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>>26182029
Fair enough, worth a shot though
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<Do you think you could take all three of us?> you ask Silence. <I was strong enough to defeat you in the open, alone.>

<Yes,> Silence says.

Humanity glances at you. <Why don't we secure Hunger first? He's got to be in the central hall. Then we can come back for this idiot later.>

<You can't,> Silence says.

<You going to come out and force us?> Humanity asks.

<I have the keys to Darkxis's room,> Silence says. <You want them? Play along.>

<You're looking at this the wrong way,> you say. <We can have a leadership debate at another time. We need to escape. For now, we're stronger, together.>

There's a pause...

Roll 1d100
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I don't trust /tg/'s ability at riddle games.

But I feel that its more in line with the atmosphere.

[x]RIDDLE ME THIS
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Rolled 88

>>26182051
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Rolled 49

>>26182051
pls dear lord
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Rolled 4

>>26182051
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Rolled 64

>>26182051
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Rolled 22

>>26182051

DICE
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Rolled 34

>>26182051
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Rolled 61

>>26182051
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Rolled 57

>>26182051
COME ON 100!
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Rolled 52

>>26182051
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>>26182043
It just makes the game twice as difficult since we have to come up with riddles as well.

Never mind the arguing about which riddle we should use
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Rolled 100

>>26182051
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Rolled 81

>>26182051
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>>26182051
He doesn't have the keys. He's a lying fuck.

He got here after Darkxis, why the fuck would he have the keys.

Fuck this chode.
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<...no,> Silence says. <You'll just take me out as soon as its convenient.>

<I just want to work together.>

<I don't believe you,> Silence says flatly.

What do you do?

>agree to go along with his game (he asks you three riddles; you have one spare chance for the entire thing
>specify what sort of riddle game you'd like to play (exchange of riddles until he gives up?)
>some other strategy
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>12th roll
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>>26182124
>agree to go along with his game (he asks you three riddles; you have one spare chance for the entire thing
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>>26182124
>>specify what sort of riddle game you'd like to play (exchange of riddles until he gives up?)
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>>26182107

11th roll
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>>26182107
You're late.
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>>26182107
Dammit, 12th roll.
>>26182124
agree.
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>>26182124
>>agree to go along with his game (he asks you three riddles; you have one spare chance for the entire thing
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>>26182124
>specify what sort of riddle game you'd like to play (exchange of riddles until he gives up?)
The game is called 'suicide'.

You first.
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>>26182124
make the wager that if he loses he merges with us
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>>26182124
"When have I betrayed an ally or friend?"
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Rolled 68

>>26182051
oh god oh god oh god
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>>26182124
"You know you're an Asshole, right?"
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>/tg/ in a riddle competition

Welp, we're doomed.

Fuck you Silence, you lying, paranoid son of a bitch.
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>>26182124
give him the "Silence Treatment"
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>>26182124
<You have seen what I see, I fight for my friends and allies. You ARE me, if I wouldn't work with you who would I?>
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>>26182124
>>specify what sort of riddle game you'd like to play (exchange of riddles until he gives up?)
Have him do a staring contest with isolation
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>>26182051
Yeah, given that this is the way it's going to go, I actually don't mind just getting it out of the way with Silence's little riddle game right now. Trying to postpone the leadership debate which we obviously are aiming to win 'till later is just going to make things harder. Hunger is obviously not terribly bright, and if we're still at odds with Silence when we go to confront Hunger, it's entirely possible that Silence will be able to turn Hunger against us.

>>26182124
>agree to go along with his game
>(once we verify that Hunger's door is well and truly locked, and that he's not just trying to bluff us out of getting Hunger on our side first)
Well, let's get this show on the road.
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>>26182124

<Tell me want do you actually want? You are not a complete idiot like Darkxis only think about his next meal. We can come to an agreement. >
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>>26182124
>>specify
Lets have a game of roshambo
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>>26182124
<I'm not the one here that betrayed the other's trust in them. I'm giving you that trust again, Silence.>
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>>26182124
Ask to see they keys.

Also, anyone else think Silence is basically the group of /tg/ that keeps yelling "trust no one?"
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>>26182250
>>26182233
>>26182212

You've had your diplomacy roll. Silence won't budge on the issue.
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>>26182124

Fuck Silence. Darkxis is a better pal then this twit.

<You do realize that if I get to Darkxis first, my position would only be strenghtened, right? And judging by how long you've known me, I'm stubborn enough to work on it myself, without your key, right?>
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>>26182253
Hes a lot more sensible than most of /tg/ then
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>>26182279
>>26182250
Not trying to Diplomance. trying to guilt him for later. we agree to his game.
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>>26182303
He's a sociopathic dickass. You aren't guilting shit.
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>>26182303
Somehow I doubt Silence is the type to feel guilty
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>>26182279
I've got an idea! Why don't we pick silence up and place him infront of the center door so he can't just run away if he feels like being a sore loser.
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>>26182332
>>26182334
Eh, you're probably right. still, it never hurt to be magnanimous (except when it does)...
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He is going to cheat and lie guys(just like last time). Give the ultimatum fall in line or we subdue him forcefully.
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<Wait here,> you tell Isolation. <Keep an eye on Silence.>

Isolation's gaze turns toward the statue and does not waver for a moment. Hmm...he's probably pretty good at that sort of thing.

<Where are you going?> Silence asks.

<To make sure you're not full of it,> Humanity calls back.

You and Humanity check the central hallway. The heavy door is bound with thick links of silvery chain. Padlocks line where the chains cross over one another.

You give one of the chains a strong pull. It doesn't even rattle.

<...we might actually need a key for this,> you say.

<Well, let's say we lose,> Humanity says. <We can always try the brute force method after if Silence keeps up the idiot act.>

You return to Silence's statue.

<I told you,> it says smugly. <You're not getting in /there/ without the keys.>

What do you do?

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Vote 1:
>Alright, I'll play your game. But if I win...I win permanently.

Vote 2:
>you ask, and I answer? I say we both ask riddles. First to give, loses.

Vote 3:
>I'm calling your bluff (smash the statue)
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>>26182432
We did. He doesn't care.
Lets just get on with the bloody riddles
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>>26182462
2
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>>26182462
1
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>>26182462
1
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>>26182462
1
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>>26182462
3
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>>26182462
1
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>>26182462
1
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>>26182462
"Also, cheating counts as losing."
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>>26182462
2
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>>26182462
2
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>>26182462
2
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>>26182462
1
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>>26182462
>Alright, I'll play your game. But if I win...I win permanently.

By way of merging of course.
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>>26182462
1
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>>26182462
1
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>>26182462
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>>26182462
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>>26182462
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Guys wait up, I think we should call his bluff.

If this is all about defeating the individual, it's in his nature to lie and twist, we should use brute force.
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>>26182462
2
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>>26182507
yes. we catch him cheating, it's a loss.
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>>26182542
>>26182542
Too risky anon
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>>26182462
(for what it's worth, 2 is also perfectly acceptable, but I don't think it really adds enough value to justify taking at least twice as long, between arguing over which riddles we want to give to Silence, and trying to solve Silence's in return.)
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>>26182542

We can always go "fuck this" and just fight him later.
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>>26182462

cutting off votes.

Looks like it's time for a game of riddles.

One moment..;.
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>>26182586
Also, I trust our ability to solve -SM's- Riddles more than i trust -our- ability to come up with them.
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>>26182542
But it's also in his nature to distrust, and this is a test of the self. I understand it as reasonable to distrust him ourselves, but we're basically going straight into mimicing his behavior by doing that.
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I am going to say this now, he will not play fair and trusting him to submit after lossing is dumb. Previous experience with him show us that, beat the crap out of him now and save us the trouble.
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>>26182597
So, how long before a spirit of the Archonium facepalms and writes us off as a lost cause?
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>>26182639

Why would it do that? It loves pasta of any kind.
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>>26182588
There is always the chance that he can make this mystically binding in some way, or gain power from our failing.
Though there aren't really any better options.

>>26182639
When we lose.
I doubt time has -too- much meaning in here, we would have to spend so much time that we are seen as "stuck" for it to count as failure.
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>>26182663
>the Archonium Hungers
>and only pasta will sate it
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<Alright,> you say, <I'll play along. But if I catch you cheating...>

<I don't need to cheat,> Silence says. <But I'm a generous shadow. I'll give you one spare chance - but only one for the whole game. Get three right and you win.>

<And if I win,> you say, <it's permanent.>

<If,> Silence says.

>intense riddle solving music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvONzaYl9gw

The face of the statue rises higher, and Silence gives you his first riddle.

<I stand alone,
My feet are still,
I have no soul,
I have no will.>

<What am I?>
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>>26182639
Oh man I miss TG quest sometimes.
Not the dice though those were beyond shit
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>>26182688

Well shit, there's a lot of things that could apply to. A mountain?
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>>26182624
I mean, speaking from a metagame perspective, we're going to have to say the answers to the riddles when we propose them, which means SM knows all the answers in advance. This means he either chooses an arbitrary point at which Silence fails to answer our riddles, or has to make a judgement about what kind of riddle Silence would fail to get, and unless we came up with something that fits that mold, we're just stuck.

>>26182668
>There is always the chance that he can make this mystically binding in some way, or gain power from our failing.
This is probably a bad idea; despite the fact that he could easily throw a tantrum and refuse to submit when we win, we could also LOSE the riddle contest, and making it magically binding would keep us from resisting HIS control.

I like our odds better in [win, potential combat; loss, definite combat] than in [magically binding win; magically binding loss]
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>>26182688
a statue? not a submission, just an idea
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>>26182688
A statue maybe?
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>>26182688
Joey

next question
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>>26182688
damn. wish there had been a bit more detail to this. let's think of everything that this could apply to and narrow it down.
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>>26182726
>>26182725

Statue seems the most likely to me.
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>>26182704
Standing alone with feet, don't think it's a mountain.
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>>26182688
>>26182704

It has feet and mountains can be together. A statue is closer as it has no soul or will.
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>>26182688
a statue, always alone always standing vigilant
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>>26182688
A statue maybe?
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>>26182741
Well, you do have the "foot" of a mountain, but mountains aren't always alone, so they are ruled out.
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>>26182741

I dunno, some riddles can get really metaphorical.

But I'm thinking a statue works better anyways.

Anyone have any better answers?
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>>26182725
>>26182726
>>26182740
>>26182743
>>26182742

Statue seems too easy for me, given how Silence IS a statue right now. let's brainstorm first before we commit.
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>>26182688
That can apply to a lot of things so I'm going to assume the mentioning of feet as a possibly important notation. Soul and will are also important, and it probably has to do with something that would seem to have that but doesn't.
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>>26182774

Gargoyle?
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>>26182793
Not alone, gargoyles are usually built together along a building.
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>>26182793
Gargoyles can move and can have wills sometimes.
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>>26182774

The fact that it uses "soul" and "will" in the description makes me think that we're going for something that looks like something animate but cannot move on its own. Which fits a statue. The "alone" part of the description probably also relates back to how Silence views himself (funny, because we already have Isolation) in terms of not trusting anyone else, and the fact that he has assumed the shape of a statue here.

Am I overthinking things?
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>>26182830
no, no, we're in a riddle game with a puzzlemaster like SM. it's par for the course to overthink.
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>>26182774

>I stand alone
A statue stand in his own.
>My feet are still
It doesn't move
>I have no soul
>I have no will
It lacks those things.

Unless someone could argue against a statue being the answer. We can call on silence on his bullshit for making his riddle something generic.
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>>26182688
><What am I?>
Yer a fucking statue you faggot.
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>>26182830
A riddle is metaphorical so it wouldn't be difficult to believe it relates back to the guy who made it. The issue here is why would he pick the form of something(assuming he could've picked it) that he deems not to have a soul or will?
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>>26182904

Oh my god can we psychoanalyze Silence through this whole game and get him to break down that way?
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>>26182688

WAIT!

><What am I?>

HE IS Silence!
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>>26182688
The best thing is, the answer could easily be a statue.

And if we say the answer is "a statue" and Silence tries to argue, we can tell him that the question he asked was "What am I?", and if he would kindly take a look, that's EXACTLY what he is, and if he wants to keep making his riddles so darn vague, we will be perfectly happy to continue answering "A statue" to all of his future riddles and being correct on a technicality.
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>>26182936

And he has assumed the shape of a statue

It still works
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I think statue is the right track but it may be too broad? Is there some kind of specific statue that this riddle would more adequately describe? A stature could be considered to have a soul in the artistic sense, same with a will depending on it's purpose.
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A Sphinx!
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>>26182939
pffeheheh i like this idea
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>>26182936
<the subject of your riddle is a statue, -you- are the shard of silence, with some similarity to a statue>
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Statue, final answer?
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Also, while I like the idea that it could be a mountain, the alone bit doesn't exactly work with mountain ranges, and given the stipulation that he stands alone, he wouldn't have FEET (plural), he would just have a foot.
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>>26182939
YES. DO EET.
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>>26182992
theres really nothing else it could be
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>>26182992
with some backtalk on being less generic, yes.
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>>26182936
I think that might be overthinking it you guys
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>>26182939
I like it. Throw it in with this >>26182904 and we can mind game him a bit.
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>>26182992
>>26182939

as long as this gets thrown in there, I'm fine with it.
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>>26182992
Gogogogogo
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>>26182992
Yeah, that seems to be the common consensus, and also leaves us a bit of a snarky fallback in case Silence thinks we're wrong, which is nice.
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>>26182688
><I stand alone,
>My feet are still,
>I have no soul,
>I have no will.>

Tree or Rainbow both fit.
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>>26182992
Confirm
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<A statue,> you say confidently.

Silence's face twists into an ugly scowl. <Correct.>

<With a riddle so vague, I could have guessed a hundred different things and been correct on a technicality. Maybe if those metaphors all didn't subconsciously stem from the form you have currently assumed, I might have gotten it wrong.>

<...glad I'm on his side,> Humanity says.

<That was just the introduction,> Silence says. <Don't get cocky.>

<Look who's talking,> Humanity mutters.

Isolation just keeps staring.

The statue looks down at you.


<I do not speak, but have my words,
I cannot say, but I can tell,
I cannot call, but I can show,
I cannot scream; I hold dreams.>

<What am I?>
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>>26183076

The trees on a forest are not alone, and rainbows don't have feet.
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>>26183095

A book?
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>>26183095
A book.
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>>26183095
><What am I?>

A book?
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>>26183095
A book or story.
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>>26183095

Book or story.
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>>26183095
><What am I?>

A painting!
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>>26183108
>>26183110
>>26183114
Could be. We can afford to go over it a bit more.
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>>26183095
A book.
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>>26183125
>>26183124

Stories can be told aloud. A book I think fits better.
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>>26183095
Book
3easy

Also, an observation, Silence has twice chosen objects that represent things and ideas and concepts without actively doing anything to embody those concepts. A book or a statue may tell you a story, but you have to read it first. Maybe this is some sort of valuable look into the psyche of Silence? Perhaps I'm overthinking it.
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>>26183095

A book. Also notice that all the things he is mentioning are silent. Maybe he wants for us to understand him.
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>>26183095
I hold dreams.>

A diary may be a more accurate fit than book.
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>>26183139
>A book I think fits better.

"The books says that we should do X"

I don't think it works.
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>>26183129
A picture is worth a thousand words...
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>>26183095
dreams
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>>26183129

Oh

Oh damn this could fit too. A picture is worth a thousand words after all.
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>>26183076
Rainbow is a cute answer, but I feel like the no soul/no will part would be irrelevant unless the answer was something that came in a shape that would generally imply those things.

>>26183095
>>26183108
>>26183110
>>26183114
Seems reasonable. Maybe say "storybook" to fit the "dreams" bit more closely, since it would better imply that the book contains something invented rather than something documented.
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>>26183148
Wouldn't that be more isolatio?
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>>26183095
Yeah, I'm gonna go with a book or a story.
>I do not speak, but have my words,
obvious enough
>I cannot say, but I can tell,
Telling is a no-no in writing
>I cannot call, but I can show,
Showing is doing it right
>I cannot scream; I hold dreams
bedtime stories.
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>>26183095
Can we ask isolation what he thinks? or humanity for that mmatter
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>>26183181
What about paintings, they seem like they could work as well, and the last riddle was art too.
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I cannot scream, I hold dreams doesn't seem to fit well with a book to me. It might be something more visual in nature. Such as a picture or portrait.
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>>26183167

A storybook is a book. Go with the safe answer.
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>>26183148
>>26183144

I can't underestimate anonymous.

FURTHER PLOTTING IS REQUIRED

>>26183166

Spoil that shit anon, I don't want to have nightmares tonight.
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>>26183095

Oh duh.
a map.
A treasure map
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>>>26183095
Dreams hold dreams?
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>>26183154

The wording seems to indicate we're looking for something that cannot speak aloud.

Fitting because we're reading Silence here like an open book. I'm thinking all these riddles relate to how he thinks of himself. He's using the game as a mask, I think he WANTS us to understand him better, but the "silence" part comes from the fact that he really can only deal in lies and deception. The truth about himself is unspoken.
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>>26183190

No, you've already got a collective hivemind on your side.
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>>26183191

Paintings don't have words.

>but have my words
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Rolled 33

>>26183171
so far this seems to imply my pet theory, and in no way is this conformation bias, that every shard wants their oposite. wants to get balance with itself.
isolation wants friends
hunger wants to be slated
i think silence wants to be heard.
i dont think they are thinking about it like this, but maybe we are a being of order, of balance when togther, but alone we are extremes. even the name "shard" implies it is a broken piece of a greater whole.
i think this is every shard trying to turn into a whole by itself.
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Wait guys, what if it's a mask?
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>>26183215
Picture worth thousand words, etc.

Though a painting could scream, so that's probably out.
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>>26183221
So what does Humanity want?
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>>26183202

Hmn.

Reading between the lines, so to speak.

Our real challenge here is to get all our allies on our side.
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>>26183222
No words.
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>>26183207
yeah but our hive mind thinks all the other minds are wrong
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>>26183095

<An open book. Just like how we're reading you.>

>conjure psychologist's couch

<tell us how you really feel, Silence...>
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>>26183222
The trips can't lie.

GUYS

IT"S A MASK
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>>26183221
>i think silence wants to be heard.

yeah, I was thinking along that line here>>26183202

>>26183222

Masks on their own aren't a medium for carrying information or meaning.
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>>26183238
Humanity is what we wanted, to understand this world instead of destroying it
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>>26183222

Explain.
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Rolled 15

>>26183238
it isnt a shard. not truely. it came into being whole it is more of a sphere than a shard. it wants to grow. or to help. but it doesnt need to wiplash back
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>>26183234

Is not about BEING WORTH A thousand words. Its about HAVING WORDS.

>but have my words
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>>26183234

>>26183258
I like this interpretation a lot, actually.
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>>26183247
This sounds like it would be funny
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>>26183238
Humanity is duality by it's very nature already. It might be because of it that our shards are seeking duality as well.
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Its a book.
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>>26183263
Mask doesn't speak, but the person behind it can still say words.
Mask can't call out anything, but the mask can show something
Mask can't scream, but.... shoot, this doesn't make sense.
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>>26183247
><tell us how you really feel, Silence...>

I don't think he can.

I think that's the "silence" part of his persona.
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Yeah, let's go with "book".

We've even got the psychoanalysis bit going here too.
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Rolled 67

>>26183279
i like to think about it like an equation. erebus was the 0. but when you separate an equation out each part does not have to balance. each shard is trying to balance its own little piece of the grand equation that was erebus
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>>26183309
Aounsa food, anon.
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>>26183282
If you want to get specific, a childrens picturebook would be most appropriate.

<a book, a child's picture book>
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>>26183309

Agreed. I am cautiously optimistic about how we fare in this riddle challenge.
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>>26183309

No, painting.

Books can say things.
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>tfw tempted to play FTL while anonymous debates
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Vote 1:
>book

Vote 2:
>painting

Vote 3:
>mask
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>>26183336
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>>26183336
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>>26183309
I agree with book.
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>>26183321

More specific is worse in these cases I think.

Let's just say "book" and we can argue semantics if Silence gets bitchy.
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>>26183336
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>>26183336
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>>26183336
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>>26183336
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>>26183336
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>>26183336
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>>26183345
Sounds Good.
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>>26183336
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>>26183336
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>>26183336
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>>26183336
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>>26183323
Nope, A books do not "Say" as is being use to mean speak. A book tells a story without saying it.
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>>26183336
>FTL
How far have you've gotten? Also, you unlock that Mantis Cruser yet? I've been trying for a while, but with my shit luck...
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>>26183336
2

>Captcha: Mask cifyiy
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You consider the riddle.

...a painting?

No. A story. But stories can be spoken aloud...

<A book,> you say.

Silence grits its teeth. <...correct.>

Isolation's stare increases in intensity. <Should have thought twice about your clever little game,> Humanity says.

<There's still one more!> Silence says. But you can tell it's been rattled.


<I waver in the sky,
A beam of inspiration
And a sun to those who follow;
A cloud to those who don't.>

<What am I?>

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>>26183401

I just got it in the flash sale two days ago. I got to sector 9 my second try but was promptly squashed like a bug. Starting a new run with the Engi ship.
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>>26183456
Moon?
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>>26183456
I would say an eclipse
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>>26183456

Sounds like the literal sun.
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>>26183456
the Moon
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>>26183456

A rainbow, duh.

Sunlight refracted through the rain.
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So considering this talk about our shards wanting things that would fulfill them. I think Hunger, as the driving force of us that wishes to consume until we're whole again, can be sated under our completion as a being. That might be hard to communicate to that sort of fellow to get his cooperation, though.
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>>26183456
Sounds suspiciously like Hyperion. Not sure Silence would go there with the riddles, though.
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>>26183484
Moon counts as eclipse.
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>>26183456
this one seems like it has a different flavor than the other riddles
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>>26183490
how is a rainbow a sun or cloud?
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>>26183456

It's a rainbow!

>waver

Because it's an illusion of sorts

>beam of inspiration

yeah, it inspires people

>sun and clouds

you've all seen one, I image. Sun to your back and it shines through the clouds. Which one you see depends on which direction you follow it.
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>>26183456
to those who follow the moon it is their sun, to those a who worship the day the moon is the cloud covering the day
>moon
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>>26183456
Gonna go with a rainbow.
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>>26183456
now we've got some debate in the choices.

I want to say the moon, because of the theme silence has going on, but there's very little wavering going on with the moon. I think it's a Rainbow.
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>>26183517

See >>26183522
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>>26183509
Yes but there is a difference between an eclipse and just the moon
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>>26183522

I have to admit, you put up a good argument.

I have no idea why people think it's the moon though.
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>>26183456

Stars?
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>>26183522
That makes quite a bit of sense, especially that last bit.
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>>26183456
Moon
><I waver in the sky,
the moon grows and wains
>A beam of inspiration
casts light and inspires people in art and music
>And a sun to those who follow;
to the shadow the moon is the sun
>A cloud to those who don't.>
to the light it is a cloud blocking the day
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>>26183456
For those who are saying Rainbow,
>A cloud to those who don't
A cloud casts a shadow. The Moon does. A Rainbow doesn't.
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>>26183336
If it follows the theme it has to be something silent that can still communicate something.

I'm going with Rainbow. It makes sense.
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>>26183456
Woah, wait a second...

Wavering in the sky, implying that it is always there but also always at risk of dissapearing

A beam of inspiration, so it can inspire people to... do what?

A sun to those who follow, which could mean that those who follow it consider it a sun, but a different interpretation might read it as "those who follow it will find the sun"

A cloud to those who don't, when taken in the context of the above line as I've laid it out, means that those who do not follow it and find the sun are left behind under the "cloud", or darkness.

Guys, answer is the Horizon.
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>>26183522
>I image

*imagine, I meant

It's 1:30 in the morning, I'm surprised I'm still lucid enough for riddle games.
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>>26183559
makes more sense to me.
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>>26183496
Yeah, I figured this would be a little too meta and/or existential to be the answer.

Rainbow makes a lot of sense.
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>>26183456
>I just got it in the flash sale two days ago. I got to sector 9 my second try but was promptly squashed like a bug. Starting a new run with the Engi ship.

Do you want the Ship Unlocker? a friend of mine got tired of trying to farm the bullshit side quests to get all the ships, so he took a break from minecraft modding and made a utility to unlock the config file.
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>>26183456
reasoning for eclipse it is then.
Its temporary so waver.

dont know about inspiration

can blind you like the sun

blocks out the sun during the day
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>>26183579
But lots of things cast shadows. That doesn't really fit.
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>>26183590
Huh, might work actually.
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>>26183590
hmmm. I like this
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>>26183590

Clever
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>>26183590

I think that's stretching it. Rainbow more explicitly involves sunlight and clouds interacting in its formation, and fits the wavering and inspirational points better.
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>>26183522
>>26183575
Cloud and Rainbow both sort of work, but I imagine that the last part of rainbow would be out of place for the complexity of these riddles.

Agg.

>>26183618
It feels like too much of a stretch
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>>26183590

Seconded!
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>>26183590
This sounds pretty good
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>>26183604

No thanks, at least not until I've beaten the game legitimately.
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>>26183559
This, stars.
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>>26183590

Despite that, I think the answer is a Lightning, or a Thuderstorm
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>>26183579
>A cloud casts a shadow. The Moon does. A Rainbow doesn't.
The cloud bit with respect to the rainbow answer refers to the stormclouds that caused the rainbow.

Going in the direction of the rainbow would mean clear skies, while the other way would be the storm that left it behind.

>>26183590
The horizon does the exact opposite of wavering, though; it's a solid line, and no matter how far in any direction you go, it will always be there.
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>>26183590
It sounds nice, but it's not in the sky. everything else fits, but it's not in the sky.
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>>26183456
bird or skysever maybe?

The skysever is supposed to look wobbly, and has a polarizing reaction for folks.

Bird because that shit is getting torn the fuck out the sky, but has been a symbol of inspiration and freedom lately. Also casts a shadow.
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>finally write a riddle that causes actual debate amongst /tg/

You guys are really good at this.

But the last one seems to be the hardest...
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>>26183635
>Horizon is stretching it, rainbow isn't
>mfw
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>>26183590

I think this is trying too hard.

Going with Rainbow here.
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How is the Horizon a beam, though? Also, how is it in the sky? It's where the sky and ground meet.
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definately not as clearcut as the rest.
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>>26183649

>>26183649
><I waver in the sky,
>A beam of inspiration
>And a sun to those who follow;
>A cloud to those who don't.>
><What am I?>


<I waver in the sky,
Lightning zig-zags
A beam of inspiration
it was a dark and stormy night
And a sun to those who follow;
It makes light if you stare at it.
A cloud to those who don't.>
And the clouds make it dark if you're looking away

<What am I?>
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>>26183670
Im calling it, its an eclipse
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>>26183456
Moon
Wavers in sky as it is only there for the night and waxes/wains
Beams are moonlight
The moon is the sun to those who follow/the shadow
And to the light it is a cloud blocking the sun
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>>26183671
The horizon doesn't waver, and doesn't really inspire.
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>>26183656
The interplay between light and darkness is what causes the "wavering" of the horizon, I would assume.
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>>26183677

"lightning" doesn't bring to mind something wavering. It's forceful and bold and apparent. It's definitely there then it's definitely gone.
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hmm, I'm guessing either moon or rainbow is the correct answer as both horizon and lightning don't quite fit
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>>26183682
That actually makes sense.

To those that follow Shadow, it is as the sun is to those who follow the light.
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>>26183685
>implying the sunset doesn't inspire people
>implying you've never had the urge to go see what was just beyond the horizon
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>>26183702
moon
>why would a shadow like Silence use rainbow?
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>>26183685
I can see how it could inspire, interpreted as either a dawn of a new day, or the dusk of the day, or the end.
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>>26183683

Moonbeams aren't exactly know for their inspiration, and you'll have to direct me to the part where the Moon is in any way symbolic to the Shadow.
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>>26183704

This is Silence giving the riddles though, why would he give a riddle whose answer relates to US when the other two have been about HIM?
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>>26183456
Oh wait.

Angel.

Can't fly too long, they're affected by the skysever too, right?

Duh inspiring, they actually get followed literally by people.

And hell yeah they're oppressors too.
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How do you follow an eclipse, and how is an eclipse like a sun to those who follow it?
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>>26183720
>you'll have to direct me to the part where the Moon is in any way symbolic to the Shadow.
For what it's worth, "by the night and the moon" has been used a number of times as an exclamation denoting surprise.
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>>26183716

I can see the inspirational part, but a lot of stuff is inspirational, I feel that it doesn't fit the other aspects of the riddles as well as a Rainbow though.
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>>26183720
>Moon
>the night
>significant to shadows
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>>26183704
Except that eclipses aren't natural or common, don't really waver so much as slide, and are a contentous point of inspiration.

We aren't looking for something that loosely fits, and the suggestions >>26183724 ... are just getting further out as we go along.
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>>26183724
Damn, stop making good guesses!
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>>26183724
Oh wow I like this...

But Silence wouldn't make the answer to his riddle Angel, I think.
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>>26183733

Okay.

how does the Moon relate to clouds?
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>>26183720
Sun=Light
Moon=Shadow
>as the quest has said several times
lots of art is inspired by night/the moon
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>>26183728
It takes the place of the sun and can blind you if you look at it
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>>26183739
>the Moon
>Which coincidentally happens to be a source of light
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I'll go with moon. Silence going with rainbow seems a bit out of character for him.
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>>26183750
the moon is night, keeping the dawn away
or think of the night/moon as the clouds blocking the sun/the day
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>>26183750
because it takes the place of the sun at night. I can see it both from the riddle and from reading Silence's character.
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>>26183722
Hes just as much erebus as we are
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I dunno guys, Rainbow was the immediate impression I got and no other suggestions have changed my opinion on it.
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>>26183760
The moon isn't a source of light. it doesn't glow. it reflects light from the sun.
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Alright.

Whatever it is, it wavers. That's set.

What ever it is, it inspires, that is set. It inspires regardless of who sees it.

Those who follow it see it like the sun, those who turn on it see it like a cloud.
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>>26183750
I'm not in favor of "the moon" as the answer to this riddle, so don't ask me.

I feel like we need to clarify whether "who follow" refers to "people who go in the direction of ~thing~" or "people who are devotees of ~thing~".

Pretty sure the former is more likely, but people keep trying to imply that it is saying the latter.
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>>26183760
the Moon reflects the suns light, but makes none itself. like how shadows need the light in order to be cast
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>>26183768

That's just what he wants you to think.
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>>26183790
SM, can we get clarification on this? this would help a lot.
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>>26183590

Actually the horizon wavers in the sky thanks to mountains and hills.

The horizon is a source of inspiration.

And a sun to those who follow could be interpret as a direction or destination.

And A cloud to those who don't. Could mean that the hills or mountains in the horizon are on the way to the destination (sun) the same way a cloud is in the way of the sun.
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>>26183810
The lack of clarity is part of the riddle.
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>>26183790

Why can't it be both?

All the other riddles have applied in both the literal and metaphorical senses.
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>>26183810
You cant clarify a riddle it defeats the purpose
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>>26183815
The Horizon is where the sky meets the ground, it isn't IN the sky at all.
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>>26183786
>It inspires regardless of who sees it.

>A beam of inspiration
And a sun to those who follow;

>to those who follow

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>>26183810

Double meanings are the bread and butter of riddles, I can't say anything.
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>>26183786
the moon/night wavers as it is only temperary
night inspires art and music, like how day inspires cheery bright stuff night inspires darker stuff
then i see it as those who follow the moon or the shadow see it as their sun, while light sees the moon and night blocking the day
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>>26183815

The horizon may look different but there's still a definite line that you can point to and say "that's the horizon".
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>>26183810
Didn't mean from SM; we're 100% going to get a big ol' HAL from him for this, I think.

I meant trying to work out which one we think is more likely as a group. for as much good as THAT'S going to do us.
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>>26183815
Except that those last two are quite a stretch, and these haven't been absurdly loopy riddles.
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>>26183839
>still say its the moon/night
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>>26183839
Aha! there we go! we're seperating a sentence before it should! it's the moon, calling it.
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>>26183839

Erebus.
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>>26183871
>erebus isn't wavering in the sky
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hmm so it is BOTH an inspiration and a sun to those who follow it.

And a cloud to those who don't
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>>26183839
I think the guy was right when he said angel.
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>>26183857

Yeah, this.

Moon works maybe on a thematic sense considering who we are, but Rainbow is the only one so far that explicitly involves sun AND clouds in its formation, and fits the wavering part more exactly since it wavers as the light refracts through the water.

It's an illusion, and yet it inspires people anyways. It can also inspire different things, depending on how you look at it you are either facing the clouds or the sun. You are either moving out of the storm, or into it.
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>>26183865
Definitely not night, that doesn't fit at all.

>>26183871
Erebus wasn't a cloud to those who didn't follow him, he was a freaking nightmare.
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More debate, or should I call a vote?
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>>26183898
call a vote
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>>26183898

Call a vote, I doubt anything is going to change now.
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>>26183898
>>26183898
>moon, final answer
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>>26183898

I think we're all set.
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>>26183522

Eh, I still think this anon is right.

Rainbow fits better than the Moon. Also, people don't really "follow" the Moon anywhere; myths are full of people chasing rainbows. Warning: Im of Irish descent and this may color my opinion
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>>26183883
Totally an eclipse
>>26183898
Vote time
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>>26183898
More debate, we are still working things out.
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>>26183891
That was my first instinct waaaay at the beginning, but I'm not sure how likely it is that Silence would get meta on us for the very last riddle.
>>26183496
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>>26183894
Oh hey, you're right. A Rainbow can mean the end of a storm and the appearance of the sun but also the signal of rainclouds.
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Vote 1:
>rainbow

Vote 2:
>moon

Vote 3:
>horizon

Vote 4:
>eclipse

I think that captures the majority.
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>>26183921

I wrote that post and my family's German. It doesn't matter.
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>>26183898
call a vote. we're down to two choices, basically.
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>>26183921
how is it a rainbow, check the riddle the part about sun and cloud are seperated
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183936
2
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>>26183921
As an Irish man you should know that chasing after rainbows only gets you fucked over
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>>26183924
Rainbow works alright, moon is tenuous, but eclipse just doesn't fit.

It doesn't waver, doesn't occur naturally in this world, and isn't a cloud but a portend of doom to it's detractors.
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>>26183936
2
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183936
3
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>>26183936
2
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>>26183936
4
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>>26183942

You do realize how a rainbow works, right. Clear skies with the sun shining on one side, rainclouds on the other.
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183841

See it like this the horizon can waver (not be strait line) because of the mountains.
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>>26183942
Follow the rainbow to the sun, don't and it's off to the rain clouds again.
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183936
2
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>>26183963
but its a sun to some and a cloud to others. not a cloud and the sun together
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>>26183936
2
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183936
2
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183936
2
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>>26183973
I get that people thing moon because "shadow", but none of the last two have had anything to do with shadow.
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183936
1
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We're fucked.
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>>26183993

Yep.
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>>26183936
>2
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183976

Yes, and we've pointed out multiple times that you can look either way and either see clouds or the sun. Like someone said earlier, you're either moving out of the storm (optimistic, things are getting better) or into it (pessimistic).
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>>26183967
protip, terrain features are not part of the horizon...
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>>26183997
lol
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>>26183997
[Terror intensifies]
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>>26183997

We did have that reroll thingie, tho!
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this was a tough one, the answer wasn't immediately apparent and there is a lot of guesswork with each of the proposed solutions.
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183993
We should have had a bit more debate to hammer out indecision, but every time it has to be "Lets vote immediately so no-one can use logic and reason to sway my side".
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>>26183997
Welp
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>>26183936

cutting off votes
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>>26183936
1
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>>26183936
1
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>>26184037
>fucking rainbow fags
>>26183997
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<I waver in the sky,
A beam of inspiration
And a sun to those who follow;
A cloud to those who don't.>

I am not convince a rainbow is a cloud to those who don't follow it. I mean a rainbow is transparent. You see whats behind it unlike a cloud that can get in the way of the sun and you will not see it.
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>>26184037

aw fuck

>two votes for rainbow directly afterwards
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>>26183936

looks like Rainbow has the majority at a glance

writing
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This is what you dumbasses get for making such a gay-ass guess as "Rainbow"

I bet you all go to /mlp/ too, faggots.
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>>26184059
ugh, this is giving the power core to the 002 robots all over again
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>>26184037

Fuck! Please don',t we still have some things to debate.
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>>26184054
i still dont get how a rainbow is an inspiration to anyone in this setting. It doesn't make sense. I mean, its pretty and all, but how in the hell is it inspiring?
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>>26184054
If you see a rainbow around the moon or sun that generally means rain (and clouds) soon.
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>>26184097

The riddle clearly says "A cloud to those who don't." meaning that is LIKE a cloud. Not literally a cloud or that there are clouds nearly.
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Fuck, i just figured it out.

Its a Bonfire.
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>play video games while lurking
>everyone votes for fucking rainbows
It feels like half the people in this thread are retarded. I think I'll just stick to my video games for tonight
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>>26184123
......................................
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>>26184123
You don't follow a fire
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>>26184123
I thought it was a unicycle
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>>26184121
... that line doesn't fit the moon, or the horizon though. The moon is to bright for anyone to see it as a cloud or a blight (the other meaning of a cloud)
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There's a long, tense silence while you consider the many facets of the riddle. It's loaded. But you think you've got something that fits all the clues...

<...a rainbow.>

Silence bursts out laughing. <A rainbow? What?>

<A rainbow works,> you insist. <It fits all the clues. Even if you were thinking of something different, it should still - >

<It doesn't fit all the clues,> Silence says. It grins at you. <Who /doesn't/ follow a rainbow? Rainbows move with you. And why would a rainbow be a cloud to anyone?>

You fall quiet. He has a point.

<You've got one more try, at least,> Silence says. <Don't give up on me now.>

Humanity huddles close. <What other ideas did you have?>

<...moon seems really likely, too,> you say. <It's rather like a sun for us. Possibly...the horizon? Or maybe an eclipse?>

Humanity's fire flickers uncertainly. <...I think you're off-base.>

<What do you mean?>

<Think about it. He thought it was a wild guess by the way he reacted. The other two riddles were more...mundane. Statue. Book. I think we're looking for something more...tangible?>

You slouch in thought.
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>>26184123

What does a bonfire have to do with clouds.
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>>26184123
no
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How does Shadow even know what a rainbow is?
When has he ever seen one
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>>26184136
Maybe if you are so smart you should participate and solve the riddle?
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>>26184153
<>THE MOON!
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>>26184123
Wha...
No, you're a dumbass, go home.
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>>26184147
Signal fire
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>>26184153
well what the hell was it?
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>>26184136
But then us retards might Wifeu Draxxis and Fang as we consume ABBY-SABBY cause we're retarded and decide to contribute instead of playing video games and bitching about stuff.
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>>26184154
The smoke that comes off them.
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>>26184153

Oh fucking hell.

That was my suggestion I was pulling for, I feel dumb now.

>>26184154

Oh shit... smoke.

It might be fire.
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>>26184154
>What does a bonfire have to do with clouds.

It makes smoke. LOTS of smoke
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An angel?
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>>26184170

You still have to solve it, silly.
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>>26184153
Oh we are still at it? I thought that you would say another riddle.
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>>26184153

Call it, and I call it for that exact reason. Now you idiots lets talk this out BEFORE VOTING and try to get a reasonable answer.
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Fuck it, I'm going to bed. I'm too tired to think about this anymore.
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>>26184194

Same one.
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>>26184160
Well it wasn't any of what we thought up, and he shot down the moon.

I didn't think any of the suggestions we particularly appropriate or fitting the pattern, but now we know at least that it is something tangible.
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im still drawing a blank here.
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>>26184191
What?! we are so boned
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>>26184153

Oh. You guys know what wavers in the sky?
A flag.
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>>26184191
IT'S PIKACHU
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>>26184170
...we still have to guess, anon...
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>>26184191
Oh, he was allowing one wrong ANSWER, not one wrong riddle.

>>26184223
This is actually pretty clever.
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>>26184123
>Bonfire

Actually, a Funeral Pyre may fit the inspiration part.
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>>26184223
shit...
i think this i it.
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>>26184223
That makes more sense.
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><I waver in the sky,
>A beam of inspiration
>And a sun to those who follow;
>A cloud to those who don't.>
><What am I?>

>>26184223
FUCKING.....
Wait, that isn't a bad guess.
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You guys are such idiots

it's obviously a tuper
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>>26184223
Has shadow seen any flags?
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Hmm, right now a fire or a torch might work.
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>>26184223
hmmm, it wavers, it can be inspiration or light/sun to those under it, and a cloud to those who follow something different
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>>26184242
That makes sense to me
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>>26184223
Oh shit, that's genius!
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We are so fucked. This riddle is actually hard.
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REMEMBER

IT MUST BE SOMETHING MUNDANE

FLAGS ARE SYMBOLS, THEY ARE NOT MUNDANE
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>>26184223

Huh, you know what, I thought that was silly but you're right.
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>>26184223
Flag seems good.
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>>26184223
That actually sounds pretty good.
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a flag does fit the riddle, does it fit Silent and the setting though?
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>>26184269
Now it seems stupidly obvious. Like I feel stupid for not thinking of that.
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>>26184279
Oh shut the fuck up, a flag is more mundane than fucking !!RAINBOWS!!
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>>26184279

Flags are mundane as fuck!
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>>26184153
><You've got one more try, at least,> Silence says. <Don't give up on me now.>

...This is weird. Does Silence actually wants us to win this?
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>>26184279
Statues and Books symbolize things too. It fits the theme of objects that represent things and communicate an idea silently.
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>>26184279
>flag
>not mundane
It's a peice of cloth, not a magical tapestry
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>>26184286
I believe it does. A flag representing following different elements, instead of nations.
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>>26184286
Kind of, seeing as this is a big dick waving "I WANNA BE BOSS" contest.
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>>26184279

But they're something that you see more regularly. It's something tangible and part of everyday life.

And the fact that it's a symbol is the point. It means something, an ideal to rally behind for people who believe in it, and just another thing in the sky casting shadows on the ground for those who don't believe in it.
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>>26184286
a flag or banner fits, and it makes as much sense for Silence as a statue or book
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>>26184223
>SM posting in the thread to make sure we don't fuck ourselves over.
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>>26184223

Thank you Anon
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A flag

><I waver in the sky,
Yes
>A beam of inspiration
It inspires
>And a sun to those who follow;
People follow it
>A cloud to those who don't.>
Like an invader's Flag
><What am I?>

Also flags like previous answers it tell or represent something in silence.
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I like flag.

In fact, now that I think of it, I really like flag.

Its so perfect, it feels like SM is throwing it out while anonymous so that we don't fuck ourselves.
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>>26184302

remember, the other two riddles were also his way of revealing something about himself.

Maybe this is something about how Shadow views our cause. He seems a lot more self-centered, he doesn't care about our "flag" as it were.
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>>26184294
>fucking !!RAINBOWS!!

I don't disagree, but for some reason your comment sent my sides into orbit
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>>26184223

THIS IS IT!
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>>26184328
I wonder it he has ever done that before...

Not that i expect him to answer, or answer truthfully even.
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>>26184223
oh holy shit. it's a physical object, it flaps in the wind, it can inspire the people who follow it, and against it's enemies it could cause fear.

it works.
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Let's read Silence's hints:
><Who /doesn't/ follow a rainbow?

So I don't really think its a flag because almost everyone follows one.
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>>26184328
I wonder if he has ever done that.
>>26184340
SM, have you ever posted as anonymous on the quest to try and keep it on track?
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>>26184328
No, I was just thinking that maybe I should update that flag image I made a while back, since that was the last time I actually felt like contributing to a shadow quest thread.

Then I was like. Oh fuck me.
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>>26184346
I bet he will answer you anonymously.
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Man, I feel terrible now because "RAINBOW!" was my immediate gut instinct and I was completely convinced it was right.
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>>26184357
Anarchists Hermits and what not
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>>26184357
Everyone follows A flag, but not the same one.
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>>26184357
but people follow certain banners/flags, while one can inspire another can bring "clouds" if it doesn't agree with what yours stands for
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>>26184358

Not even once.

If that was the case, I would have saved you a hundred thousand times before now. You fuck up pretty regularly.
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>>26184374
>it was bad and you should feel bad
>but Shadow forgives what he doesn't CONSUME
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>>26184357

You don't follow a foreigner flag. It can be a cloud to your own cause or nation.
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>>26184346

At the very end of the questor when we fuck up so bad we die I'm sure SM will go ahead and link post he made while anonymous. That way he can drink our tears as we realize that we should have died long ago.But then what is a hero but a man that should have died
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>>26184391

"clouds" as in something that blocks out the "sun", which in this case has been likened to the symbol or ideal that a flag represents.

Other people's beliefs stamping out yours.
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>>26184419
Or, you know, it could be LITERALLY blocking out the sun...


Geez, everyone keeps looking for some deeper fucking meaning. Damn it /tg/, you think too much!
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>>26184316

Why cheat in a game I made up?
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>>26184400
Don't start.

I ran a quest once where I did it because my players all unanimously jumped on the worst possible option every time. Eventually I wanted them to stop, or at least start them discussing why they shouldn't pick it.

I was wrong to do so. Took all the fun out of it.
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>>26184438

No no, in this case it works in both the literal and metaphorical sense, AND reflects on a major theme that we've been covering during this quest, which makes me think it actually is our correct answer.
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>>26184419

Fuck. That says something about Silence.
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>>26184442
Nice shop, samefaggot
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>>26184438
The last two have been ordinary things with metaphorical ties to the riddle.
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>>26184464

Yeah, I think he just doesn't want to get involved with our little crusade.
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>>26184467

>20,000 earth rotational units spent in paint
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>>26184419
>"clouds" as in something that blocks out the "sun",

Hmn. Going with the flag idea, is there any way to work Sails - like on a ship, which always flies a flag to show its nationality?

And if so, how does this interact with this world's ships? does an airship qualify? It would certainly qualify.
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>>26184442

My old DM did it all the time. Granted he was a douche and his campaign reeked of"I AM SO MUCH SMARTER THAN ALL OF YOU AND NOTHING YOU DO CAN STOP MY PLANS!"
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>>26184482
>>26184482
>It would certainly block out the sun.
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>>26184442
>never post anon?
not even once when you were young and needed the money?
>once you go anon no one can find you until you samefag
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>>26184442
A lot of good DMs fudge the rolls now and again for one reason or another.

That said, I'm not going to hate on the ones that don't.
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>>26184488

I don't get it. It ruins that moment of rising blissful pride when the players figure something out.

Sometimes I want to pull my hair out over the shit you come up with, but /tg/ has its shining moments, too.
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>>26184482
No. Don't be a dumbass. It's flags. Shut up. We don't like you.
I actually prefer that sniveling faggot pls to your extreme dumbassery and completer fucking-retardedness.
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>>26184464

A statue,he was with no will of his own now.
A book, he was his own story.
A flag, an identity of his own.

Wow, now I feel bad for him...What the fuck! How could that happen?
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>>26184492
>not even once when you were young and needed the money?

My secret shame: I anonymously samefagged the quest one post in the first thread to bump for players.

True story.

Aren't you glad I did, though?
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>>26184518
Maybe because he was a lying asshole until we ate him

He wholly deserved what he got
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IT'S THE SMOKE FROM A FIRE YOU IDIOTS

IT FEETS ON ALL POINTS

LOST PEOPLE LOOK FOR IT BECAUSE IT MEANS THEY WILL FIND CIVILIZATION AND YOUR AVERAGE NORMAL GUY WON'T GIVE A DAMN
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>>26184518

Well now we know why he so badly wants to run this show.

I think he's actually jealous of us.
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>>26184518
>A flag, an identity of his own.
And he's about to get his shit annex'd
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>>26184528
You shameless whore

Quest dropped
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So am I calling a vote yet?
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>>26184542
Go away Nevermore. We know it's you, no pure anon would think of something so incredibly stupid.
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>>26184528
considering I've canceled so many plans and spend over 24 hours doing those paste bins only to have my power cut almost half of them, yes so glad
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>mfw this entire quest is actually just samefagged by SM and I'm the only one playing
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>>26184563

I think we're all settled on "flag".
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>>26184566
Yeah, they'd think of something smart. Like rainbows.
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>>26184563
I think Flag for 1000 Alex
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>>26184563

yes pls flag
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>>26184542
I actually kind of like that because it goes with beam and cloud but we flag now
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the biggest point against any sort of fire? It doesn't waver in the sky, its generally right on the ground.
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>>26184511
He hated the fact that we refused to work with totally not the joker in totally not medieval Gotham and tried to search for evidence that this guy was trying to over throw the king. He also didn't like the fact that he had given my rogue the spell dream which lets me send a message to somebody sleeping in order to stop a cult of the king in yellow campaign. I guess the entire city which ran on magic was also warded against magic.
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>>26184563
I'm kind of not sure you even need to. Even if it's somehow wrong everyone is going flag.
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>>26184557
>>26184578
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>>26184563
young flag money
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Yeah it's time to guess flag.

Writing.
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>>26184578
>you too?
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>>26184614
>did we do good master?
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>>26184511
RAINBOW.
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>>26184614

Oh god oh god oh god if we fuck this up I'm just going to swear off riddles forever because we clearly suck at them.
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>>26184589
>I guess the entire city which ran on magic was also warded against magic.

There are no words for such massive faggotry.
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>>26184563
Going with flag.
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>>26184614
Thank you, Milady
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>>26184566
Why the hell is it stupid?

><I waver in the sky,
Smoke does that
>A beam of inspiration
Artistic types look into smoke and clouds for inspiration
>And a sun to those who follow;
Like I said for those that are lost
>A cloud to those who don't.>
Your average joe wont care for a simple fire and the smoke coming from it.
><What am I?>
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>>26184638

>and then there's rainbow

>'ring picture of shadow going "DUUUR....RAINBOW!"
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Sooooooo... anyone have a battleplan to CONSUME Silence?
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>>26184657
>just like <Here robots I've never met have a power core without any confirmation of who you work for>
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>>26184657
<Are you a rainbow?>
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>>26184614
They don't think it be like it is but it do
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>>26184587
A combo of a beacon pyre + its smoke fits, but it seems awkward to me.
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>>26184600
>SM posting Fourze; basically the embodiment of Friendship
Somehow, it just doesn't feel right.
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>>26184658

Get our hands on it and don't let it escape, we got fucked up last time because we let it out of our grasp.
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>>26184674
that was so incredibly stupid... still can't believe it was the most voted for option.
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>>26184657
>>and then there's rainbow
>>'ring picture of shadow going "DUUUR....RAINBOW!"
this is gonna be so hard to keep in the paste bin from the sheer wtf were you all thinking
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>>26184589
>>26184643
He could've argued that it was warded against UNAUTHORIZED magical communication to avoid some kind of magical signal interference, but still, making up shit just so your players don't get to use their abilities to solve problems remains kind of a dick move.
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>>26184674
That was mostly due to a catastrophic self confidence failure which cause people to hand over the core to "not risk offending The Monitor robot guy"
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>>26184657
Don't make the mistake of thinking that your players can think just like you think SM, you have the full picture so your view is kinda biased.
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>>26184695
never been more disappoint with myself for missing a quest, okay there were a few later that were worse but still
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>>26184698

yeah yeah, I know it was a stupid answer, stop rubbing it in.
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>>26184655
>I waver in the sky
Can't fault you for that, but hell, so does a fucking rainbow
>A beam of inspiration
No, you can't say that it's smoke from a fire and then turn around and say clouds inspire people, those aren't the same things.
>A sun for those who follow
That is so much of a stretch, I think you might have qualified for the olympics for the next fifty years
>A cloud for those who don't
As an average joe myself, I can assure that nothing is better in the cold and the darkness than a nice, roaring fire.

Go die in a hole.
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>>26184674
>let's not forget <Oh I believe the story of the silence shard about him being a force for good when Fang said there was NO rhyme or reason to the killings>
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>>26184643

I talked the others into forgetting about the city as there was no way we could make it in time and the dastardly cult would win. The DM tried to interject but I then casually stated that he said the city was 3 days away on horseback(we lost our horses to monsters cause -10 horse points bullshit) and the play was set to take place in exactly 3 days. He tried bringing up other points I kept shooting them down with things he had already stated or said about the world. He was a great guy to hang out with, not so much for DMing. I kinda miss him and the rest of the group.
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>>26184716
Rainbows and all the other "Big Things" came up i feel because people needed to have a "flashy" answer to the last riddle.
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>>26184716

That's true. In all honesty, rainbow wasn't a bad guess.

But it would still be funny.
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>>26184728
I'm just surprised at how everyone jumped on the bandwagon. Although, we're doing the same thing with flag. But flag does sound a lot more likely, and it fits.
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with 'rainbow' it was a case that all the answers were kinda meh, and I couldn't think of anything better myself.
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>>26184738
>As an average joe myself, I can assure that nothing is better in the cold and the darkness than a nice, roaring fire.
>Go die in a hole.

I..what?

You have problems anon, close your browser and go take a nap.
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Shadow Master yesterday morning I injured my dominant hand via lumber machinery and I'm typing fairly slowly but I wanted you to know that while I was all loopy before the operation from their drug & IV cocktail drip that I was telling my sister and dad that I was going to miss this thread and they had no idea what I was talking about but I'm just glad to be back in time enough to my desktop to tell you how much fun your threads are for me. I hope your work continues for as long as you find it interesting.
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>>26184756
>>26184749
To restate, I feel people felt the need for a "big finish"
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