“Um, Sloane.” I say, edging away from the pack of tailors. “What is going on.”The tailors look me up and down like a starving wolf examining its next meal.“Now relax Solaron, this will all be fine.” Sloane says in what he seems to think is a calming voice as he moves to block the door. “These people are here to help you into an appropriate formal outfit.”The tailors close in, reaching out with various tape measures and bits of fabric.“Sloane, you did, ah, explain what we usually wear to events like this?”The look on his face says it all, there is no hope for me. When the horde of tailors descend upon me I consider trying to eat one of them, but the knowledge that that wouldn’t stop the rest stays my fangs. In a matter of seconds I am lost in a swirling maelstrom of fabric and grasping hands.“No, wait, don’t pull on that. Argh! Watch where you’re stepping! Sloane, help!”But my cries fall upon deaf ears, and I can only hang on for dear life as they assault me from every angle. Finally they leave me be, seemingly content with the level of their brutality, and leave me and Sloane alone in the room. The paladin seems pleased with his dastardly trap, and I can only glare in return to his self-satisfied grin.
>>26115959Old threads here.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Solaron1d4chan page here.http://1d4chan.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_SolaronTvtropes page here.http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/TaleOfSolaron
>>26116050>Tvtropes page here.
>>26116227Because it's there.
>>26116359Now I see where you got your audience for this shit from.
>>26116227>>26116436And he crosslinked TVT with /tg/. Because we don't have enough faggots from that site on this board already.
>>26116436The tvtropes page only popped up after about the fourth or fifth thread. And considering the state of the page, I'm pretty sure nobody actually read it.
>>26116457TVT introduced me to /tg/, I felt I owed it something in return, even if it was petty.
>>26116469>TVT introduced me to /tg/It makes so much sense now. Why you write such awful, formulaic characters and why you thought the Reasonable Marines were a good idea and not horrendous mary sues.
>>26116469> TVT introduced me to /tg/, I felt I owed it something in return, even if it was petty.Fuck off then, your kind isn't welcome here.
>>26116436Nah, that was mostly holdovers from his godawful quest.
>>26116227>>26116436>>26116457>>26116472Easy does it ladies, don't get your panties in a twist.Is the majority of Tvtropes a festering pit on the internet?Pretty much, but it's not the focus of the topic here.If you want to complain about it, go make a topic about it, don't bombard someone else's.
>>26116526>Is the majority of Tvtropes a festering pit on the internet?Yes, and it spawned the op. Which is awful.
>>26116568You're the one expending the time and energy to attack this, when you could have strolled on my.Quietly posting my story in a nice little corner for my audience is hardly 'bombarding' anybody, you don't have to read it, or even pay attention to it, which you clearly are doing now.And if you honestly think I care one iota about your opinion, or those like you, then you are clearly delusional.
>>26116568Well generally because it's common courtesy, granted it's been a long time since I've seen morre than a few shreds of the civility that used to be prevalent, but I'm an optimist that we still have that capacity.Polite sage for off-topic.
>>26116526Maybe if he didn't make 24/7 threads devoted to his shitty mary sue we wouldn't be compelled to share our thoughts on it. If he wants a hugbox, he can fuck off back to TVT.
>>26116600>You're the one expending the time and energy to attack this, when you could have strolled on my.>OH NOOOO, FOLKS ON THE 4CHINS MIGHT GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO CALL MY SHIT OUT FOR BEING SHIT! Get used to it, slackjaw, that's how things work round these parts.
>>26116614How is he a sue? His seductive powers get him into as much trouble as not, he's almost died twice, taken prisoner another time, and has to exert real effort to win, rather than just taking victory without trying.
This is by far the worst quest I have ever been a part of.
>>26116469> TVT introduced me to /tg/> I felt I owed it something in returnAnd so you shove a giant pile of stock characters, retarded dialog, and a shitty generic plot on us? The sheer fucking arrogance of thinking that your little atrocity of a story is something valuable, that you're "giving in return" is astounding. Though come to think of it, it's to be expected from a tripfag.
>>26116647Simply pointing out the childish pointlessness of his outburst.
>>26116614A quick browse on sup/tg/ shows me that his threads are from being 24/7.That said, I can't comment on whether the character is a mary sue, but honestly it's probably no worse than the rest of the shitty quest threads, so I have no idea why it's garnering flak when those things soldier on.
>>26116693>ALL U GAIZ R SO CHILDISH FOR CALLING OUT MY SHITTY STORYGet used to it, slackjaw, that's how things work round these parts.
>>26116688He is also a quest runner and we all know those motherfuckers just ooze with arrogance and self-importance.
>>26116750But not so arrogant that I think people will care what I think when I gatecrash their treads and try to ruin their fun.
>>26116693Could you stop retaliating and go on with the story please. Thanks.
>>26115959“I look ridiculous.” I say a minute or two later as we both stand in front of a full length mirror, examining the fully horror of what the tailors have done to me.“You look fine.” Sloane assures me.‘Fine’ is not the word I would use to describe this abomination. I try to keep my jaw from falling open as I look at what they’ve done. I am wearing a long white shirt under a white vest, thin matching gloves on my hands. Some long piece of cloth has been forced down my front, feeling like a whole sail has been stuffed down there in some way. Everything is frilly and lacy, and far too constricting, I feel like I can barely breathe.“I look like some kind of lacy handkerchief with arms!” I protest, glaring at him. I try to flex my torso around but end up straining against the incredibly tight suit. “And I can barely move, why do you people wear things like this? This is torture!”“No, this is formal wear, emphasis on wear.” Sloane says sternly, “I will not have you gallivanting around with the nobles of the country in that usual collection of cloth strips you favor.”I cross my arms, straining against the tight jacket, and glare at him.“I was just trying to avoid an incident.” He says.Glare.“This is local custom, you should respect it.”Glare.“You actually look fine.”Glare.Sloane sighs, “Whatever, just don’t make a fool of yourself tonight, remember I have to deal with any mess you might create.”The paladin turns and leaves the room.
This is the worst.
>>26116778Except you did exactly that at >>26116600 and >>26116693. Besides, this isnt a gatecrash, its a standard land war in asia affair. You posted a link far more interesting than your header.
>>26116714> A quick browse on sup/tg/ shows me that his threads are from being 24/7.Who the fuck cares? Posting TVtropes shit once is already too much.
>>26116714>but honestly it's probably no worse than the rest of the shitty quest threadsThats not the compliment you might think it is.
>>26116822I'm not complimenting, I'm merely taking the side of the neutral here. And your posts and the others like it are what I call an exercise in futility. And lacking in any sense of civility. And all because he posted a Tvtropes link, which was obviously a poorly thought out move.Now I'm too lazy to be the voice of civility here since I've been awake for 26 hours, so I bid you all good night.Good luck OP in writing whatever it is you're writing.Lads I hope in the future you'll have better form than to simply lambast something because of a link to a sucky website.Sage for off-topic.
Saved so that any future threads can be shot down.
>>26116903>I'm not complimenting, I'm merely taking the side of the neutral hereAnd yet, your statement sounded more like a sly insult than anything else.
>>26116675Being so sexy it almost kills you is pretty suetastic.
>>26116945The essence of being a sue is winning without effort, having the answer just handed to you, and everyone love you for it.Not almost being raped and enslaved, but barely managing to fight your way out.Not lying on the ground nearly dead, but picking yourself back up to save a friend in danger, coming within a hair's breath of dying a second time.And certainly not living in a gutter for a week as you figure out how to get your life back from a doppelganger who has stolen your life and turned your friends against you.Solaron is not a sue, because he works for what he has, and tries to earn it.
>>26117004>The essence of being a sue is winning without effortI would say its being universally loved by all no matter how terrible the character is, which sums up Solaron perfectly.
>>26117033did you read the threads?
>>26117033Who loves him?He's driving Sloane to drink, Blake is an asshole, Buri has no friends, Galen is quiet and reserved, and Sal'vir is too timid to do anything.They don't sing his praises, they barely tolerate him, but can't bring themselves to make him leave.
>>26117063> implying you need to read the thread to know that a main character with the same name as the tripfag writing it is a colossal sue
>>26117088I just didn't feel like coming up with a colorful monicker at the time of writing.I admit, this was not very smart of me, as it causes some confusion in communication, but I don't feel like changing it now.
>>26117067He has nearly been snu-snued multiple times now. In fact, thats essentially the whole plot.
>>26117153He's been taken advantage of three times, nearly raped once, and legitimately almost in bed with a nice girl once.He's lucky those all fell through.
I just don't like the way everyone has fucking brain damage. I know its meant to be a pastiche on different cultures and miscommunication caused by that culture gap, but everyone just comes off as fucking retarded.
>>26117179They're limited by their brain damaged writer.
>>26117179I'm listening if you have a suggestion on how to improve matters.
>>26117177Sounds incredibly suetastic.
>>26116793I pull at the horrific amalgam of cloth and lace I have been entombed in, but I can barely loosen it. I look at the set again, feeling a little sad. This is clearly a fairly expensive set, the workmanship is obvious, but it’s just so terrible I can’t even begin to comprehend what the tailor who made this was thinking. I can barely move, barely breath, and I think this thing will explode if I eat anything more than a mint. I rub my chin as I look into the mirror. Yes, this needs a few modifications.The ridiculous shirt is the first to go, after I figure out how to work the toggles, and the gloves are just absurd, they don’t even fit over my claws. Under the shirt I find what seems to be a scarf, about five feet long if I’m any judge, I set it aside for later. The jacket is salvageable, and I put it back on, though I leave it unclasped in front. I remove my saber from my belt and exchange the worn leather belt for a finer one, reattaching the sword. Finally I put the scarf back on, tying it loosely and throwing the excess over my shoulder. I rest my hand on my saber hilt and admire the effect in the mirror.While white is not my favorite color for formal occasions, I think it looks tolerably dashing, kind of like a noble pirate or perhaps a dashing prince. A little presumptuous of course, but I certainly like it a lot more than the great fabric monstrosity that Sloane forced upon me. Yes, much better. I feel a tremor in the floor and scent the air, detecting numerous unfamiliar scents wafting up from far away. It seems like the guests are arriving, I should head on down. With one last look at the mirror, I leave the dressing room and head towards the sound of talking.
>>26117215I really cant, since any suggestions I could give would involve either the characters pulling a 180 in regards to their "personality" or starting the whole damn thing over. That and I bailed after how awful the first thread was. You've sorta written yourself into a corner here.
>>26117265How so? I am willing to listen to honest critique, it's nice to hear a negative opinion that isn't 'YOORE A FAGET' for once.What would you change about the characters? If I like the sound of it I might implement parts of it.
>>26117215dude, just stop responding to them.
>>26117309Yes, thats right. The only way people can dislike your GRORIOUS LELSOFAHNEE STURRY is if they are DIRTY, NASTY TRORRUS.Get fucked, champ.
>>26117299> If I like the sound of it I might implement parts of it.> Am I not merciful?
>>26117299> What would you change about the characters?Get rid of them. Stop posting stock TVtropes shit. If you want to write, then learn to actually write characters instead of relying on that festering cesspool.
>>26117299Honestly, >>26117393 is pretty spot on, albeit crude. With the first part at least. The characters all feel like you just slapped some traits together from different TVT pages with no real concern to making an actual person and none of the females feel like real characters at all, just punchlines for the same single joke you have been telling since Thread One. Its formulaic in the worst possible way.
>>26117373He is trying to prove hes a REEL LYFE WRITER and not just some questfuck, so of course he is gonna be a snooty cunt.
>>26117587And nobody wants to see this shit, so the sooner it's gone, the better.
>>26117609> implying the people shitting up the board with quests aren't also snooty cunts
>>26117627The fact that there are so many positive comments before you all showed up belies your argument.
>>26117648Solaron IS a questfag, so he is a gigasnooty doublecunt.
>>26117650Harem Knights had over 50 threads before anyone noticed how terrible it was. That doesn't mean it was good.
>>26117650> implying questfags sucking questfag cock means anything
>>26117753We didn't even know it was the same guy until thread 4 or so, so your argument is invalid.
>>26117650The fact that people let this go on for so long is why posting this shit needs to be a ban worthy offense. There will always be some retards who keep something alive, no matter how shitty it is. The only solution is to nip it in the bud.
>>26117792> implying it wasn't obviously a questfag from thread 1Just because you're blind doesn't mean everyone else is.
>>26117796You can always report the thread, too, seeing as this is a /lit/ thread.>>26117792He straight up said he was doing this shit in his RMQ hiatus thread.
>>26117235I eventually reach a balcony overlooking the entrance hall. Below me streams of men and women in fancy clothes even more painful looking than my own are flowing in through the open doors, a small army of attendants rushing to meet them and serve their every whim. I close my eyes and listen, hearing a dozen conversations float up through the still air. Here a woman is discussing the latest imports from across the sea, there a man speaks of trade agreements and family lines, everywhere is the chatter of the idle rich. I remember it well from my homeland, the language is different, but the words are the same.I hear a familiar voice and look down to see Sloane standing awkwardly to one side trying to avoid being pulled into conversation by various noble patrons, giving terse responses to their questions before walking somewhere else to escape. Blake is standing dejectedly next to the snack table under the close eye of Buri, and Galen and Sal’vir are walking the floor, taking an interested look at the various visitors.I wait on the balcony for a little while, until the party gets well and truly started, a string band playing soft music in the corner, the clink of plates and glasses accenting the hum of conversation. Once again I am reminded of similar functions I attended back home. Of course the music was different and the formal wear more sensible, but the tone was the same. The greats of society had gathered together, and were trying to avoid ruffling each other’s feathers, while puffing out their own.Figuring that it was time to get down there and enjoy the evening, I descend the stairs to the waiting crowd below. I see Sloane passing by and give him a little wave, smiling as I watch the paladin’s jaw fall open.“Pelor Sol, what did you do?”
>>26118068>>26117978>>26117904Oh great, the butthurt anti-quest fag is sagebombing
>>26118092> implying being against quests shitting up the board is a bad thing
>>26118157> HUR DURR SHIT IS ALRIGHT BECAUSE FILTER DURR
Best time of the day ha- wait, where did all the butthurt come fromWhere were you all in thread 3, or 5 or 8?
>>26117838“I made a few, adjustments.” I say while looking down at my outfit, “It needed a bit of work, I hope you don’t mind.”“Damnation you serpent!” Sloane hisses, “I was trying to avoid a spectacle! Now who knows what’s going to happen.”I frown, this was not the reaction I would have cared for.“I don’t think having me pass out from lack of breathing would cause any less of a spectacle, not that dressing me up in a frilly shirt will make these mammals stare any less.”Sloane gapes at me, and I immediately regret what I said.“Sorry, I don’t usually use the M word, that was in poor taste. Allow me to assure you that I will be on my best behavior.”Sloane drags a palm over his face. “Fine, fine, but I have my eyes on you make no mistake. And don’t you dare do anything with the women.”I frown. “Can I talk to them?” I ask.Sloane seems to be debating with himself. “Yes, but only a little, and don’t leave the room with them, I will be watching.” He points at my heart in a vaguely threatening way before wandering off.I try to figure out what just happened, but decide I’d rather not know, so I shrug to myself and slither into the party proper.
>>26118174>HURR DURR NO FUN ALLOWED
>>26118303> FUNIf you think drowning other people in stock characters, terrible dialogue, zero plot, and a colossal sue of a main character is "fun," then you should fuck off back to TVtropes too.
>>26118381How is solaron a mary sue? I want actual reasons, not just 'trust me he's a sue'.
>>26118381Maybe I do. Why is that such a bad thing, exactly?Maybe you could just filter, avoid storytime and quests, and go back to 40k and D&D threads>>26118436Oh, and an answer to this would be nice too
>>26118529Once again you say 'Really guys, he's a mary sue, just trust me.'The character idea is that he is innocent and naive. No dark troubled past, no terrible secret, no haunting failure, and that one problem has almost led to legitimate disaster.If he were a sue he would have glided out of those problems without a backwards glance because he's just perfect, not barely escape by the skin of his teeth at great personal effort.And, must I say it again, nearly die to save someone he just met from certain death, paying the price of winning in pain and blood.Hardly a sue.
>>26118529Dear god, you don't think a thread about riding a male centaur or large cheesecakes is a productive thread? Really?And its pretty obvious that the OP chose the name so we could identify him, and obviously couldn't think of a name.And as far as the story goes so far, his only problem is not that he is too sexy. Maybe in recent threads that has been a prevalent feature, but racism and nativity seem to be rather large barriers in his life.TLDR: Read the threads first, faggot
>>26118599> innocent and naivePlenty of sues can be. And no matter how much you insist "Oh but it's gotten him in trouble!" being "too sexy" is a sue trait. It's just an attempt to give a character a "flaw" that actually isn't.
>>26118607> Dear god, you don't think a thread about riding a male centaur or large cheesecakes is a productive thread? Really?Better those than quest threads and this shit.
>>26118724Being "too sexy", as you put it, is not a problem for him. He seems to quite enjoy himself reading books and talking to women. His innocence and naivety could be seen as a problem>>26118750Well that's your opinion and this is mine. You don't see me shitting up your cheesecake thread, do you now?
>>26118831Guys, stop feeding the trolls. Polite sage for off topic.
>>26119103I know I shouldn't but I get it into my head these people expressing serious views and opinions and want to try and change their erroneous perception of this storyI know their trolls and feed off people like me, but I just can't stop myself
>>26118299I pass by a couple chatting over some wine, their conversation stopping abruptly as I pass by. The female holds onto the male’s arm, whose jaw tightens. Awkward. I look around the hall, trying to find something to talk about.“Sir Barkley throws a fine party.” I finally say, weakly.They don’t say anything, I shall have to try harder.“My name is Solaron by the way.” I offer, extending my hand.“Count Markin.” The man says, tersely, not taking my hand.We stare at each other for a long moment, neither willing to move.“And how goes the, Counting?” I ask, feeling very self-conscious before his withering gaze.“Fine.” He says wearily, “I oversee several tracts of lands south of here, farming and metalsmithing being our primary industries.”“Sounds interesting.” I say, snagging a drink from a passing tray.“It’s often quite tedious.” He says, “And what is it you said you did Mr. Solaron?”I smile and strike a dramatic pose, hand resting on the hilt of my saber, flicking my head to make the scarf swirl a bit.“I am an adventurer.” I sat as dramatically as possible.
Rolled 10>>26119153>>26119154Point taken. Stop feeding the people who disagree with you.
>>26119154> questfaggotry and terrible writing> implying those are different things
>>26119199>implying all quest threads have terrible writingthey are
>>26117309Also, hey there SecGen, how goes it?
>>26119166Ending the story for the day.Work over the past week has been exhausting.I should be able to return tomorrow, though I will of course be here for a few hours to chat.Thank you for reading.
>>26119748Dungeon quest was fun
>>26119664And, as always, I arrive as it ends. Still, good to see this, I missed the previous thread. Don't listen to this person or people who heckle, they seem to think that /tg/ belongs to them and that if something exists that does not entertain them then it is a personal offense.
>>26122703Yeah, the mod's report box is going to get blown up with all of the shitposters here.
>>26119664Humorous as always, writer-man. Have a good rest.
>>26119664Good as ever, have a bump
Thanks for the support guys.And don't worry, the haters only slow me down because I spend a little while laughing my ass off at them.
>>26130000Where DID they come from? I mean, this is the NINTH thread. Where were they?Also>All the butthurt
>>26130842No idea, it was pretty clear that most of them didn't even bother to read the story before they came in to make a fuss.I actually ran Sol through the universal mary sue litmus test, and he scored in the furthest category from mary sue possibly, to the point where the test said I should try to spice him up.
>>26131114I wonder if the mods are going to do anything about the blatant shitposters.
Fuck yes, I finally caught one of these thr-goddamniit guys, stop trying to kill all the OC.
>>26132297Relax, they can't kill me.Except if they make me die laughing.
>>26132316It will be a good death...Possibly horribly painful from falling onto many sharp and pointy objects..
>>26119166“Really?” his mate asks, speaking for the first time.“This saber isn’t for show.” I say, glad to finally be on a topic I can actually speak about.“Done anything interesting?” She asks, “And how came one of, your kind, this far from your home?”I smile, she wants to hear a story, my specialty.“Oh, the story of my leaving home is as long as it is boring, it is only after I arrived here that my life became interesting enough to talk about at any length, indeed it used to be quite dull.”“And how did you find your way into the manor house of Sir Barkley?” The male asks.“Me and my group aided him in recovering some stolen property from a group of bandits, nothing terribly exciting. Now if you want a story, let me tell you about the time we went down into the crypt of a powerful necromancer…”
>>26133086More to come soon.
>>26133086I tell the story with the easy confidence that comes from long experience. It seems that my many nights of entertaining the patrons in the bar back at our inn has finally paid off, my small audience becoming engrossed in the tale of our adventure down into the dark crypt. I choose to leave out my confusion over Sal’vir’s gender, that would hardly fit the narrative of dashing adventure I am telling, but the rest I leave unaltered. I play up the unfolding mystery of learning the identity of the necromancer, the near disaster of the battle with the skeletons, and finally the surprise at the revelation of the true nature of the long dead lord of the labyrinth.While the male takes longer to get into the story, his mate quickly becomes enthralled, clearly carried away by the words. I end the story with our exiting the tomb after laying the necromancer to rest, making sure to tell his own story as well as that of us. I am not the best judge of human facial expression, but it seems that my story has been well received by their reaction.“A fine tale.” The female says, giving me a little round of applause.I tuck my arm in front of me and bow, “You honor me, It warms a storyteller’s heart to hear his tale well received. Now if you will excuse me, I think I would like to wander a bit, Sir, Lady.”I bow again to each in turn, and set off to wander the hall. I get a lot of strange looks, but I simply explain that I am an adventurer from a faraway land who helped Sir Barkley with a pressing issue and they seem to accept it. In fact, they seem to find me intriguingly exotic, and I spend more than one conversation simply explaining the differences between Yuan Ti and human societies.--Would you good readers like to hear more differences now? Or just get on with the story?
>>26136064Personally, I'd rather you just get on with the story.
>>26136064But those chats end as easily as they begin, so after explaining the intricacies of our marriage system for the third time I extricate myself from the latest conversation as diplomatically as I can. The reception is in full swing now, a few couples on the dance floor, a few more guests arriving late. I scan the crowd, looking for my friends. Sloane is staring stonily into space as a debutant hangs onto his arm, talking energetically about something most likely meaningless. Sal’vir is sitting in a corner sipping his wine quietly, perhaps I should head over in a bit and cheer him up. Galen is conversing in smooth tones with what seems to be a trader. Buri is walking about energetically as if looking for something, and Blake is nowhere to be seen.I am about to head over and talk to the elf, when I see our host Sir Barkley striding across the floor, what can only be his wife in tow. He passes close to me and I fall in beside him, his stride slowing.“Hello Sir Barkley, a fine party you are throwing, especially on such short notice.”“Thank you.” He says, a trifle absently, “I try my best in difficult situations.”“I can only imagine the difficulty of running a house like this.” I say, honestly.“It is difficult, but rewarding, now if you will excuse me?” He slips off to talk to someone, though his wife does not follow for a moment.“You are Solaron correct? The serpent bard?” She says, examining me.“Yuan Ti.” I correct, “And yes, I am he.”She considers me for a moment, “You aided my husband out of a particularly difficult spot, almost a shame, I enjoyed watching him sweat for a little while.”“Sweat?” I ask, confused by the expression.
>>26132297It's kinda funny how some people blame the mods/janitor for killing the OC when it's pretty much always just been /tg/ driving it away ourselves.
>>26136919Again, sorry for the slow day, been doing things.
>>26116499>Being reasonable>Makes you a Mary SueYou got nothing better to do than shitpost?
>>26140400cite me a flaw of theirs.
>>26148192They're massively out of place in their setting, to the point that they're practically heretics, and they haven't figured out how to cope with it at fucking all.
>>26148192They completely miss the point of the setting.
>>26148226>>26148241Which is exactly what all the Mary Sues that belong to races foreign to the setting have as well.Of course the knights conductor never lose because of this flaw and their inquisitor rivals are constantly shown raging about how he cant get to them.
>>26116913You're a rather bitter person aren't you?
>>26148323It used to be standard /tg/ modus operandi.
>>26148349Not really. Maybe you're just misrable.
>>26148192>>26148226>>26148241>>26148295Can we please not discuss this here?
>>26151161If this is indeed you Solaron, you appear to have lost your trip. Also, I'd like to say I have enjoyed the story since the first thread and hope to see more of it.
>>26151273“To see him uncomfortable.” She clarifies, “It is a sight I can enjoy only rarely.”She starts to walk away, and I slither along beside her.“Why is that? Surely he must have much to deal with.”She lets out a little laugh. “Surely, he deals with many things, many meaningless things.”“Like what?”She shies. “Oh, like projecting the image of wealth rather than actually securing it, of keeping face with those more powerful than him, and politely exploiting those below him.”“That sounds unpleasant.” I observe.“It is how the game is played.” She says, “He must curry favor and keep his hold over his lesser servants.”“A shame.” I say, “But if that is what is needed, then why do you say it is meaningless?”“Because my husband goes about it all wrong, chasing after fancies when he should focus on practical matters. This staff of his is no different, he thinks it will help him secure his position, but the resources he has expended securing it could have been put to much better practical use.”I consider this. “A shame then, though I hope it works out for you in the end, lady…?”“Rowena.” She says.“Lady Rowena.” I confirm, bowing dramatically. I offer her one more smile before wandering off again.
>>26151273'Tis indeed me. I was posting in another thread and forgot to put my nametag back. fixed now.
>>26140400There is nothing reasonable about the Reasonable Marines. They befriend daemonettes, magically get Sororitas to work with heretics, are best busom buddies with the tau, and have a tyranid genestealer who works for them. And throughout all of this, they have plot armor thicker than a Grey Knight made out of Space Wolves.
>>26152450Opinions aside, this is not a quest thread.If you want to criticize go to a quest general thread rather than do it here, I will not discuss the quest in this thread.
>>26137050>A cliche tropefest with utterly terrible characters>OCI think we can still blame the mods if shit as terrible as Suelaron is considered OC by this new, cultural wasteland that is post-modpocalyptic /tg/
>>26152492>bitching about /tg/ going offtopic>>>/TVT/
>>26152537If you have a specific complaint I would love to hear it.But simply saying everything is terrible and the MC is a sue will not tell me anything.What specific actions do you have a problem with? I hope you have read at least part of the story before condemning it.
>>26152672>If you have a specific complaint I would love to hear it.Right, so that you can passive-aggressively bitch about how anyone who dares criticize your masterpiece is just a hatertroll who clearly never bothered to read your awful story, just like you did earlier. Oh wait! You did it in this post too!>I hope you have read at least part of the story before condemning it.That is not the way a rational man responds to criticism, that's the an egotist who is only looking for sycophants to suck his e-dick responds to criticism.
>>26152728I demand nothing, but at least one critic above admitted to not actually reading the story.I genuinely want to hear your complaints about the story, I would learn far more from that than from any praise, and I want to become better.So, I ask humbly, and without arrogance of any form, what don't you like about the story?
>>26152765>but at least one critic above admitted to not actually reading the story.Show me where. I saw someone claim they did not read the story in its entirety because there was nothing there to grab their interest and pointed out several clear problems from the little that they did read and then you just ignored them and instead chose to mock them when one of your little defense came in to whiteknight for you, but I never saw anyone outright say they didn't read it.
>>26152826Here.>>26117088And the reason the MC name is the same as mine is simple.Back in the character concept thread where I posted the concept for Solaron, and decided I wanted to write a story, I got into a conversation with a couple anons there, and nametagged myself as 'Solaron' to identify myself. I simply added a ID code when I started writing later that night.
>>26152765Just ignore these wankers, feeding the trolls has never helped anything. They're not going to listen to reason, they just want you to stop liking things they don't like.
>>26152864>comparing blatant trolling to legitimate criticism and using it to write off all criticismsGreat job, Solaron, you are now no better than Anita.
>>26152826To be fair, that guy's issues may (I stress -may-) have been addressed in the bits he hadn't read. It's kinda poor form not to read the entirety of something you're supposed to be critiquing to go and claim the entire thing still has issues that are addressed in other parts.>>26152864Solaron, as someone who's followed this bit of writefagging from its inception, you are way too defensive about the criticism you get. While some of it is baseless, acting high and mighty and dismissing all detractors as 'trolls' not only makes you look like a bit of a jackass, it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what trolls are and how to respond to genuine trolls on 4chan (ie. not so much as giving them a knowing wink. It doesn't make you look clever. Just easily baited and a bit dim.).
>>26152924I am willing to listen to every last piece of input, I will dismiss nothing out of hand, regardless of ho baseless it may seem, I will at worse, ignore it, and at best, listen to it.>>26152949I have never, ever, called anyone, a troll to the best of my knowledge, I find that the best way to respond is with polite civility. A troll will become bored, and someone with a legitimate issue will be heard out.
>>26152949>It's kinda poor form not to read the entirety of something you're supposed to be critiquing to go and claim the entire thing still has issues that are addressed in other parts.But the guy addressed that by putting in the disclaimer that he hadn't read the whole thing. Seeing as Solaron failed to address his post entirely and instead went on to call him a troll later on, one has to wonder if any of his criticisms ever were touched on. Aside from that, Solaron is so fucking awful towards people that give him anything less than unchecked praise that all legitimate critics are just going to leave him at the mercy of the trolls for being so hard to talk to rationally.
>>26153002>I have never, ever, called anyone, a troll to the best of my knowledge>>26130000>>26116693>>26131114
>>26131114>I actually ran Sol through the universal mary sue litmus test, and he scored in the furthest category from mary sue possibly, to the point where the test said I should try to spice him up.Funny thing, most mary sue tests actually score legitimate mary sues better than they score real people. Benito Mussolini is one of the worst mary sues ever, in fact.
>>26153042Sometimes it's just obvious, and honestly it gets tiring sometimes and I just need to have a good chuckle.>>26153008>Solaron is so fucking awful towards people that give him anything less than unchecked praisePlease see this>>26152765 and understand that I simply do not have the time to respond to everyone while in the midst of writing the story.I try to respond as well as I can, and in this case I was referring to someone else as the person who said they didn't actually read the story. At least that is what they implied.Saying that I am awful is dissapointing, I am trying to be as hospitable and polite as possible, and have repeatedly asked to hear criticism and listen to reader's opinions, regardless of what those opinions are.
>>26153115>Please see this>>26152765You can say you listen all day long, but that doesn't make it true.>I simply do not have the time to respond to everyone while in the midst of writing the story.No, but you have plenty of time to respond to your sycophants and complain about the big mean trolls.
>>26151312I just have time to wander over to the refreshment table and pick up a glass of wine when I hear a commotion behind me. Nothing so dramatic as clashing steel or shouts of battle, but conflict nonetheless. Curious, I turn to see what’s going on. I see that Lady Rowena has joined her husband again, and the two of them are squaring off against another couple, the tension between them palpable.“Sir Aquitaine.” I hear Sir Barkley say, tersely.“Sir Barkley.” Aquitaine responds.There is silence between them for a long time, Sir Barkley finally breaking the uncomfortable moment by addressing Aquitaine’s wife.“Constance, it has been a long time, how do you do?”“Fine.” She says coolly. Mrs. Constance Aquitaine is wearing a green dress that reaches all the way to her feet, with spindly green shafts curving down from her shoulders. Honestly it reminds me a bit of the outfits we wore back home to dinner parties.“Surely something interesting must have happened since last we spoke.” Lady Rowena says, trying feebly to strike up a conversation.“Quite a few things,” Constance replies, “None of them any of your business miss.”Lady Rowena frowns a little, but tries to maintain good face. I find myself disliking Lady Constance a little, though I have just met her, so I should be a little more forgiving.
Your pace is godawful for how often you make these threads. You should instead write up a full blown "chapter" to completion and post it all at once instead of dragging it out like this. And you should probably have a less serialized, questlike neverending plot.
>>26158374I had planned on writing all day today, but my friend came over and we went to see Pacific Rim.Just got back.I spend most of my day writing this, almost every day.
>>26158285I consider heading over to try and smooth things over, but honestly I don’t feel like getting in between those couples, so I simply sip my wine in peace and watch from a safe distance.“And how have you been?” Sir Barkley asks Sir Aquitaine. He seems quite pleased about something, if I am any judge.“Doing well, very well in fact.” Aquitaine says, though I notice a certain stiffness in his posture. I’m not sure if he’s lying, but he seems uncomfortable about something, or perhaps worried.“Really?” Barkley presses, “Because I had heard that you might have fallen on hard times, if that is the case you have my deepest sympathies.” His tone is genuine, but I can tell he’s not being truthful easily enough.“No idea where you might have heard that.” Aquitaine says a little too quickly, “My estates have never been better than they are now. Actually I had heard that you might be facing difficulties in the near future, how are you faring my old friend.” Again, I can tell from how Aquitaine says ‘friend’ that these two are nothing of the sort.
>>26158401>I spend most of my day writing this, almost every day.And it doesn't really show. I understand writing can be slow coming and all, but you really don't need these threads here so much if this is all you can produce. A better idea would be to just save up all your writing over a week, post it all at once on a Saturday or something, and then repeat next week. It might even give you time to refine the plot and characters so they wouldn't be so flat and meandering.
>>26158401He does have a point, though. The story'd be a lot better if there was a definite end to work towards and it'd give you a chance to come up with more solid characterisation for all the characters.>>26158505Yeah, this.
>>26158505I'd prefer this too.
>>26158505This is a very valid argument. I completely agree.
>>26158505I'll consider it, though that would be saddening for me. I know it sounds petty, but knowing that a lot of people are enjoying the story each moment as I am writing it helps me to keep going. When I see that they're happy, it makes me so energized and helps me come up with new ideas and jokes, not to mention being able to interact with them, see their reactions as I go, and be able to get a little interaction in the story, like with Solaron's formal wear.And, simply put, they oftentimes give me good ideas, like the 'tremor sense' or psychology, or allowing me to get answers to questions about what sort of content they want to see.I will consider it, but honestly it would make my part of this harder, and a lot less fun.
>>26158629Try it, and if it doesn't work out just continue doing this method.
>>26158629And by saving up the story for one large dump, you get to save your energy for a Q&A session every week and bouncing ideas off of one another. Not to mention that sectioned installments catch the eye and the reader better. You are trying to do episodic but refuse to break the story into episodes, instead just thrusting out random plot as it comes to you and the end result is incredibly sloppy.And yes, it is rather petty to say that the only reason you are doing this story is so that you can have a 24/7 endless stream of adulation pointed in your direction.
>>26158680You give very valid critiques, and your not being a dick to the author. I like you.
>>26158761Fuck... I meant "you're"
>>26158761And in 2 seconds Solaron is gonna call him a troll and bemoan about how persecuted he is.
>>26158680I appreciate this as well.You have some very valid points, and I know I sound like a petty pretentious jerk when I talk like that, but I really try not to be.I will try this method, but I just want to explain where I'm coming from.I have always found it hard to keep going as a writer. I have produced a few works that never see the light of day, and eventually I just got tired of them and moved on to something else. Then I posted the first three pieces of Solaron's story, and it just took off, it kept me going and helped me write more than I ever have before, combined, in two weeks.So, again, I will try this method, and see if it works out for me.At least after this thread dies.
>>26158825Discussion is important; seeing both sides of the story. As mentioned previously, just try it out and see if it works.
>>26158476For once, the smile on Barkley’s face is genuine. “Oh no, we are doing quite well here, in fact we have received a sudden windfall recently.”“Really?” Aquitaine asks, raising an eyebrow.“Indeed, I am sure my good fortune will secure the good name and status of the Barkley house for a long time to come. Such a shame though that you could not host our little reception, I had looked forward to seeing the present state of your manor. The old place was looking a little under the weather the last time I visited, I do hope your estate is in better condition than the last time, for your sake.”Aquitaine grits his teeth, but responds well. “Yes, a great shame, I should have liked you to see the state of the place, I daresay it is in better condition than your own hall. In fact we just renovated the main hall.” He looks around the vaulted room we occupy, “This old style is simply not up to standard anymore, so much more can be done with modern knowledge and art.”Barkley surreptitiously looks around the hall but stops when he notices Aquitaine looking at him critically. “Why then did you refuse to host the banquet at your hall? It sounds as if you would have been ideally suited.”Aquitaine recovers quickly. “The renovations in the main banquet hall were not yet completed, it would hardly do to host a formal reception when there is scaffolding everywhere and sweaty workmen running around the place would it?”They continue to snipe at each other as I watch, a guilty grin forming over my face. I hear footsteps beside me and smell Galen at my side.“Enjoying the reception?” I hear his gentle voice say.“Enjoying the show is more like it.” I respond, wincing a little at the ongoing fencing match between the two nobles. “And trying to stay out of the danger zone.”
>>26158825>I have always found it hard to keep goingYou and every other writer in existence when they were starting out. You are not unique in that aspect; it's the mark of someone who can become a good writer to be able to push past that.From one aspiring writefag to another: keep at it.
>>26158870We stand there and watch for another minute.“They’re still going at it.” I say with more than a little awe. “Just how long can two people give off the impression of not hating each other?”“For as long as their temper holds I suspect.” Galen says, taking a sip of his water.I just shake my head and watch the two couples going at each other like a pack of impeccably polite wolves. The Sirs are discussing the quality of their respective horses, the Ladies are discussing the relative merits of each other’s dresses.“You seem surprised Solaron.” Galen says, looking at me sideways, “Are your people not like this?”I am about to deny his implied claim, but stop to consider. I think back to a function not unlike this one back in my homeland, where I saw my father cornered a major merchant and began discussing trade agreements. The each remained completely civil throughout the entire exchange, at least on the surface. Look a little closer and they couldn’t have been much more hostile unless they were trying to bite each other.“I guess not.” I admit in the end, “Though we don’t usually go at each other over things like this, minor posturing and the like.”Galen gives me a curious look, so I go on.“Yuan Ti don’t usually engage in this sort of verbal fencing match over things like paintings and decoration, we usually reserve such confrontations for more important things like matters of wealth and political power.”“I find that hard to believe.” Galen says, watching the nobles who are still at each other’s metaphorical throats.“Do you mean to tell me that your people almost never get into fights like this? Or argue over the ‘little things’ as it were?”
>>26159233“My people don’t usually care about the ‘little things’ as you call them.” I reply with a shrug. “We tend to leave each other alone unless we have a reason not to. Parties like this, for example.” I indicate the room around us with a wave of my arm. “We have functions like this all the time back home, the nobles and the wealthy sharing a drink with the problem solvers. The ones with the power come to procure the service of the ones who can act, and the actors seek the patronage of a wealthy house. Look over there for instance.”I point to a pair of males talking as they lean against the wall. One wears a long embroidered cape, the other a more somber set of clothes and a long feather in his tricorn hat.“There you have it, a noble and a merchant without a doubt. They are probably discussing the price of importing or exporting some usable resource, the merchant trying to land a profitable contract and the noble looking to exchange his surplus goods for some coin. They may have skin instead of scales, but I could tell those two anywhere in the world.”Galen looks at me, a little surprised.“I would not have picked you for being politically savvy my friend.”I shrug again and sip my wine. “Father was a powerful man, he often attended functions like this. It was expected that he bring along the children to join him when we were old enough. I would have rather been elsewhere, but with my mother and siblings around me I couldn’t really help but pay attention. And you pick up a few things after your tenth formal dinner.”“Good that you did.” Galen says, “Such knowledge should serve you well in your line of work.”
>>26159430“I can only hope, it would be nice for something useful to have come out of that experience.”Galen considers for a few moments.“What you said earlier, your people seem quite reclusive. Do you really not take that much of an interest in the lives of your fellow Yuan Ti?”“Not greatly.” I say, “We don’t just abandon each other, we have friendship and love of course, but we don’t take as much interest in random people, or sudden acquaintances. At least most of us don’t.”“Sounds like a hard way to live.” The cleric says. “Going through life without people caring about you. As a cleric I have to care about people, it’s in the job. I bring comfort and healing to souls who are injured and suffering, I find it hard to believe that a functioning society could be sustained when the people don’t care that much about each other.”“I see your point.” I say, “But consider the other side. If this were a Yuan Ti function, Sirs Barkley and Aquitaine would not be at each other’s throats like a pair of rabid dogs, competing to see who can bark the loudest. Rather they would simply acknowledge each other and get on with their business. Despite what you might think, we Yuan Ti live rather free lives, if nobody takes an interest in your life that means nobody is watching, you are free to do more or less what you want. We don’t let people go about weakening our nation mind you, but so long as you don’t hurt those around you, one can do more or less whatever they want.”“I had not thought of it that way.” Galen says, “But it still seems like a very cold way to live.”I shrug. “Perhaps, but it’s the world that produced me, so it can’t be all bad.”
>>26159832Calling it for the night.I will try the suggested strategy of writing a long chunk and then posting it, and devoting my time to answering questions and discussing the story with readers.Honestly I just started writing this way and never thought to do it any other way, so it's time for an experiment.Not sure when I'll be back, but I will post back again when I have a nice big chunk ready to go.Thanks for reading, as always.